improvements. And it's kind of a nice document to have to hand out to potentially hand out to any developers that are looking at making changes along West broad. One of them, and also for the planning commission purposes, one of the questions that I have raised immediately, everybody knows that Gottfries was a great redo of that building. But if you walk on the sidewalk and front of gothrees, nothing was done to that sidewalk. Other than putting in new curb cuts and entrance ramps. And that was a total redo of that entire building. They didn't take down it. I would say take down the sky and the structure, but you know, why is that any different than any other new construction that happens in wrong streets? So just a thought. Ross, yeah, follow up on an Alex presentation. The work plan we included doing this thing. That's correct. Yep. So I think Alan, this is something we need to work. That we wanted to get done. Yeah. Yeah. For the benefit of the EDA or guests, whether they be watching, Alan, what's your take on the reason that we would do this, how those would be used? Obviously, planning commission purposes, you mentioned that, but how it's what we use this. I think as a historic document, I think it's very important to have a full understanding of what our current existing conditions are. Especially since there's been a lot of improvements made between 2018 and now, I wouldn't want to end this document as served as somebody and say, this is the way we currently look down, because it's not current. The other thing is I know that there's a lot of... I guess you've been discussing going on about whether or not you want to have all of our exciting walks or whether there's some other type of design change that we'd like to see happen. Clearly there's stuff happening at the East end of the West end, but I think in terms of eventually perhaps perhaps having landscape architects or street skate architects come in to look at things that we can use this as a document to hand it in and say, again, this is how we look. Can we get a proposal or a scenario which would allow for the different design? And how would it fit in with the existing design we've done for our street today? Good. Thank you. What's the typical protocol when we're in replacing sidewalks? Kind of to play a minute's, they need to just concrete it. I don't know why it's in the back. I don't know what a quote he didn't take away the answer on the question. Why might I have an answer now? Well, I would just, Mr. Brangman andman and sort of responding to some of your comments about some of the specific properties. Where we were able to get streetscape improvements, that's part of a negotiated boundary concession as part of special exceptional. Godfrees was a by-right element. So I didn't have any way to do that. But the good news is the city does have a West broad and a middle project that will be installing street-state improvements along this section of Broad Street. So that is in the city's capital through the program. We're in process right away at the position right now. We take it in that phase and a couple of months and then go see the final. This inventory could be helpful. I took the words right out of the, thank you. I will say that West Bond Broad Project that does have plans already in the building that lays out the city's typical street skate plan. And just one note on that, there is the City Council has taken up an inswork plan, a revisiting of the brick sidewalk standard. And the council has expressed a preference that be replaced with a concrete standard with, you know, done in an aesthetically pleasing way. So those details we're working through right now are planned to come with some options for city council soon. That would set a new standard for other several treatments with the candle. In this project, and in future, streetscape projects. And is that, so the new streetscape standard to go from correct to codecrete? That's the same standard you require for streetscape improvements for any kind of rezoning voluntary concession. So what you're saying? Currently, the area is where the streetcape standards apply is the entire commercial districts of Washington Street and Broad Street and a view of the feeder streets to that. Other smaller streets that we built built are not under the city's adoption streets to the standards today. And we typically take a more ad hoc approach to this off-broad and off-washing control. Just one last question. Is the reason moving from brick to color creed safety costs? Yes. Delicious. OK. Pretty good as well. I don't think this side is officially only concrete or if there's some sort of hybrid option. Yeah. The council is going to discuss that. Okay. All right. Um, even though this is a pedestrian issue, it's not trivial. I got that. I got that. Chails, Chails, and they also like, we're on here. So I, uh, I, uh, I reached King of Buzzard. Yeah. I was quick, quick question on the thing where I was finishing that for some projects it's voluntary to change the streetscape. Well, it's a voluntary concession as a negotiated condition that ultimately gets put into the entitlements for a redevelopment. And once that happens, it's time for us. And it's interesting. I would, and this would be something that the council would ultimately have to deal with, but I would suggest giving the years of time that I spent in DC. You change a building or doing a project in DC. You are required to change the sidewalk to the standard streetscape for the city. So we might want to look at having something like that here so that you don't have to get into a voluntary negotiation about what gets put in the public space adjacent to the product that is built. But again, that's something that counts what I have to take up and pass as the questions about this allowed to occur by right, how the something that comes to what I have to take up and pass as questions about there's a ladder or a bireite. How do you look at group? Well, you might have to change the bireite applications, but again, that's something you can sort of recall. Yeah, I think the concern is on the bireite replacing streetscape specifically, What we're talking about would almost be prohibitively expensive, I think, for a lot of buy-right renovations. And then the question is, at what level of renovation would you be required to contribute to that public streetscape improvement? Yeah. And I would want to discourage improvements to the side because of the potential kind of scope creep and cost of replacing the streetscape for minor renovations, but I think it's something that certainly the council can take into consideration. 50, 60% on around 60%. 60% on average. What is it cost to replace a block of sidewalk these days? Costs are going up. You know that? Yeah. Less for the public sector, the most for the public. Yeah. I know the planning commissioner raised it when the strap room is going to go into the process and they would not have proceeded with the project having an apartment updates, basically. on that entire corner. So that would be an example or it might be prohibited. It would be hundreds of thousands of dollars, I think, especially with that corner. But yeah, sorry, Jim, go ahead. I'm not moving from motion. Move. Oh, sorry. One last point, Alan. In this one for the street light survey, because they tell us which street lights are painted black versus gray. We've got this kind of mismatch. You know, the street light standard, the summer black, summer gray. We also have something that's knocked down like over your apartment. All the differences in both. I don't know that I've been scared of the lights. Those are getting upgraded costs. Yeah, yeah. LAD. So they should be. So we're really doing whatever misling we had in our ongoing LAD. It would probably be good to have that information. If we can get a little bit of other information, want to go. Okay, sorry, Jim. Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to make a motion. Based on the proposal, we move forward. Yeah. The calendar you feel good about that $8,000. Okay. Anybody want a second? Second. Sure. Alan, thanks for doing that. What is the roll call vote? Rock, paper, and house. Yes. Shall bear in mind. Yes, I'm right. Yes. Yes, that when. Yes. Thank you. Thank you all for the. So what's on the screen is a document we sent to you previously, which is to make sure everybody's comfortable with the assignments they accepted or volunteer for, the case made it mean. We didn't hear back from anybody saying, I didn't say that, so I think we're good. I just remind you, we have, EVA has about $115,000 in their accounts at the moment. That doesn't include the hotel tax. You might as well be. Correct. Yeah, no, I might as well be. Sarah, you want to talk a little bit about this? No, okay. So, Sandy Kierz is looking into this. She was assigned to this, Krishabharba had actually given us preliminary proposal sorts to do some social media advertising. So we anticipate probably having more of a way next month. We just want to let you know that there's some progress being made and send the Trisha and Megan together to talk about that And Sarah's gonna talk a little bit about, well, I'm Sarah and I'm running, but if you wanna jump in here on the fitness chart as well. I will live today's first day of fitness challenge. So I think Trisha had updated us and there's now 22 businesses signed up with various free activities around town. The Bingo Boards have been distributed to various places for pickup. There's a bunch of social media marketing sites. You see how this pilots, when goes, transforming the old mayor's business challenge, which is mainly minestracking, we kind of have more of a community-based challenge that has mental health and physical health. So thanks to the EDO team and then collaborating with the schools and the businesses to make it a little different this year. Yeah, so all the intents and purposes have gotten positive feedback already. People who heard about it through the social media, stuff that they have seen. And in a journal, I stopped off at the library to give them a few more copies this morning and they got got handed out a text just in like the first few minutes. So that was probably good news. We now have the prizes. What they'll look like, a sticker, and you'll complete the challenges and a double tag. You can please complete 32 challenges and then between 12 and 18 challenges are a really cute pair of sports socks. I think that explained to people in what I found that this is like kind of an extension of restaurant week to help a different set of businesses. Really has intrigued people and kept them a little more engaged, that they wouldn't think. And also hitting home the fact that it's not something that you have to log online and fiddle with a program or logging into it, program some sort to track all this and it's just like self-aligned and you turn it in and yeah, it's been fun and exciting for the community, and for others. Obviously it's been wonderful to all of this to start. Here's the rest on the right. The inside of all the businesses that have joined to participate and they're offering a variety of different services and offers from like mental health and long-range to Piava, Flatties, a lot of great stuff. So that's on the website that we create other web pages that we created to be events where people can check it out there and then the you can explain. The website has been doing really great. The webpage is already on a lot of traffic and hits. The number one page view is all's church fitness week. So it's all working out great. We've already had 36 people sign up to our newsletter based on just the traffic that we're getting from this. You guys can check out the stats more and you can find some high reported month goes on. But yeah, we, you need visitors in the last 28 days, 1.3 days, so many students. We're going back. So one thing to add to when you guys talked about your kind of priorities for the 2025 era is kind of expanding support for other sectors of the business community besides restaurants. We all give lots of love to restaurants. So, I think it was time really well to do fitness and our wellness businesses and then potentially something in Q3 or Q4 for retail and for the holiday season. So, similar restaurant week, I think we'll be looking to the EDO to track what's the ROI rate. I think you all went off for $10,000 to do this extra marketing bush and so it'd be good to hear from the businesses whether they're seeing some value from this extra support from the idiot and idiot. Double. Do you agree on that? Do you say signed up? Twenty-one businesses. How much? Twenty-one. Eighth thanks to Levy and Sarah Boat. I mean, when the web is based, I think it's just business. I have to get that information put on the web page on the right there. They're doing like special offers. Like you know, we're kind of a free class of boxing and they're doing the pop on the benefit of the city park. How do we play the gathering that information about ROI from those businesses that are participating? Right. I'm really precious. She's been talking to them. Yeah, a survey of some kind. We discussed what had she presented previously at restaurant. We didn't want to kind of deal with a little more. Yes. Tip to really get a better understanding of like a just certain percentage of percentage of people, instead of just asking them like the day, or the media's after looking really dry, and on the point that we need to pick up on public drinking. So yeah. If they're getting customers, if they're able to do better in the month of April, this year versus last year, ideally, we better. Okay. Okay. So as members of the EDA, you are welcome to join the finish challenge as well. You encourage you to participate. And this is another item on the EDA work plan and Sarah's done some things for Gael. Yeah, I just finished with your own practice. I had several of just pulled out the top four to do a cost point analysis. They're all fairly reasonable. Has that that seems like initially, would be really expensive, given those numbers, but they said if I were to come in and you know, I would be there, they would give us more specifics. I just didn't want to start about fast access. So we'd get all the things in your cells, we did it, and how do you, until we really studied people, because I've used all of them, except for one sooho CRM and maybe a thing of all of them. Um, they're usually friendly easy. And then they seem to check all the boxes of what you guys were looking for, of what we're looking for to use it. Um, in my open to learn more than anyone has any suggestions. Do we have a list of criteria that we're actually trying to target? Like what is the objective and what is, like our specific needs? Cause I feel like HubSpot is gonna be a work kill for what the ADA might need. That's a good point. Yeah, maybe listing out what I use it for, what other people could use it for, and then when you guys send missions, yeah, it would be a good idea. Yeah, so when we originally talked about this, the genesis of the conversation was, if we wanted to reach out to a certain business segment, we don't have a universal comprehensive list of even how to get in touch with those businesses. So we said for like the fitness challenge, it's like, hey, let's send an email or let's reach out immediately to everybody that is registered as a fitness business in town. We have a way to do that. So the idea was creating this profile for businesses so we could reach out to them for very few initiatives. I mean, I've used Hubsbot. I've used Salesforce extensively both of those. I would say a lot of these, at least for that kind of initial idea, are probably gonna be overkill, but with that being said, a lot of the metrics in terms of web traffic tracking that Sarah is doing for Fitness Challenge for our week, all of them gets tied into these CRMs and allows you to do some really, really cool stuff. And then to some degree, once we get a point, we can put these drip campaigns so you're constantly feeding people with information about what we're doing. And it makes it a lot easier to just keep consistent engagement with them. Do any one of these businesses have a local government or not for profit rate? Um, you know, a hotspot day for sure. They have a way to raise and so do sales force. And sales force is free for nonprofits. It is. They have a free bird over nonprofit love. I did it sure, they had to have my rate and so do sales force. Sales force is free for nonprofits. They have a free for a nonprofit. I didn't search it out the not way, so I could go back to the secret. A lot of these are going to have more than what we need, but we don't have to use all the functionality. Sales force is incredibly comprehensive as well. It can be a bit of a bear if you're trying to use all of it. But I think any one of these could at least get us initially what we're looking for. I would give I can see if we have you know, if we're profit. I know Salesforce is free in the nonprofit space. I don't know what we count as. Yeah. The idea too, we like for Shell, you know, it's like we have these conversations with folks about these different initiatives. We just logged the information so we count as. The idea too, we have these conversations with folks about these different initiatives. We just logged the information so it sits there. Otherwise, it's just patchwork of trying to figure out who's doing what. We can use it for all events across anything we do, economic development. It's hugely helpful for a customer engagement. Sound question? Are we technically a, we're not governmental? Are we a non-profit? Are we in corporate media yet? Are we in corporate separately? You are a separate corporate entity and your government, your governmental agent. So we are governmental, so be a government rate. But check and see what they have. Government causes pressure to walk usually So else have you tested any of these Except for so I was hoping Brian would be here because They work extensively with The serums's as well. I'd like to get his opinion too. Yeah, it would be great to. And then somehow, like, you know, I was about their free plans versus start, whether they're going to be either different accounts for some people don't need access. And maybe you're going to be fine on free plans. And then you guys are going to live in more in depth. We're really have to play paper for you full power members and a bunch of others can get access but will you please help spot for my company? Definitely will spend 19,000 here. Multiple users. How about it's great. I mean it's a fantastic and it's Salesforce but I've and they're very robust. I mean, it's a fantastic and it's Salesforce, but I've used both. And they're very robust. I mean, I had experience, but I just didn't envision that much. The necessities, but yeah, not understanding what getting into the cheers. I think we would feel, you know, between the standard and the professional. So I'm not, I don't think we'd ever see the highest level. So per user, I think it would be pretty cheap. Once we get a gift, it's also people and sure there's much more reasonable price range, but this is just a starter. And it causes a lot more skin and money to get the information into it. And does it, sir, could you do us a favor? Could you put together, I think, further, forelle's comment or question put together kind of like a scope design for this. And let's bring that back to EDA and make sure that we know exactly what we're going to be using this for how that's going to work across EDO. And if there are things that, even from a comms perspective, from an event standpoint that that can be utilized because I don't know why this would necessarily just have to be used for ED out. I mean there are other events and things that are happening outside of economic development where it would make a ton of sense to use this even if the ADA funded it. So they could be helpful for us to think there. Yeah I mean there could be a number of different uses just to thought. But it would be helpful if we had kind of a scope of how exactly we're going to use this and what's the functionality that's most important for economic development office and ADA. We'll talk further with you about how to do that. Yeah, we do want to take this one or you'll need to go ahead. It's not that much to report on this just yet, rather than that. We are working with a couple of other departments on the signage. We've had an initial meeting with them already, but another one coming up in a couple of weeks that they have to come back to us and get more information about the pieces. So we think that fully. There are kind of a lot of things that don't really have come to necessarily associated with them, some of them do. So any young is helping with that and coordinating between the different departments. So it's probably going mean it's gonna take a little longer, but the coordination's probably long. So I'm sorry about the banners. The banners, what banners are we talking about exactly? I don't think we even know yet. I mean, I think there are way a lot of old ones and damaged ones out there that we've got. What is your banner? You have banner in sight? No, well, on banners, I guess it's something that we've talked about in council that it was partially owned by OCOM, partially owned by the EDO. There's a pretty half hazard kind of banner strategy. So we've these whole banners that go up for various seasonal things. It would be great to give more thought and strategy to what to go there. There's a bunch of random ones left on the street right now from the Kuben and then some random ones in South Maple. So maybe as part of it in Bensforay we could get all that cleaned up but just put together a more thought and die calendar like hey 12 months of the year here's one the calendar you know manners go up something that unifies the branding and process city could really be. Is there anyone's apartment responsible for this one? I don't know where it lives. So it was O-Com, maybe it's... I think that's... Yeah, but that would be the first step. It's like, who's the owner? I think I'm going to ask you to get asked to tell us if he would be responsible for the company. I agree. But if we believe that maybe if he can break up the T.P. that we're going to put him up, But this group is going to control where they go and make it one group, which would be logical to be. The most important thing is that if you're a little bit more active, you know, if it's more, anyway. So I spent a lot of time driving through small town from Virginia and I love the banner action they have in some of these towns. Like even if it's celebrating people that participated in World War II, the veterans and all kind of stuff, I mean, the consistency, it just, I think it's incredibly charming, and it's very attractive. And if it was a seasonal thing, I think it would just be hugely beneficial for us and a relatively small investment. Yeah. Oh, it needs to be in one place. Yeah. What's up? I think we need to be consistent, yeah. Therefore in one place. There might be companies, I think there are companies that will hold the banners and put them out for us based on a schedule of what we want. So that's something that we can look at. So we didn't have to put it on DPW. I actually went ahead and heard a different thing. So a perspective on maintenance items up there. And so when you all discuss in the past, at some point, your role has been to build new stuff, like a building, a surround park, building new parklets. opinions, especially given when it funds, funds like when we build new capital things we should take into the cost of the operating for those. I don't know whether you all should be in the business of maintaining parks after they're built. And so there's Mr. Brown Park is now five years old. Why is it still managed out of the EDI video maintain? And I'm looking at the city manager and I feel like it's to transition to business as usual. And maybe if you want upgraded service or if you look at the surround park, that can be a additional discussion that it just feels like we shouldn't be in the business. You guys should not be in the business. Giving your limited funds of maintaining parks. It's the question we should be being, should we be in the business of oversight for parts that we create. Right. Because my question here is, do we have a schedule for when we replace your age when we replace her from where we put chairs or you're replacing it all every year or are we doing chairs every three years and we're doing church every two years and we're doing, do we have a schedule that allows us to not spend all of the money once and then show it as a group is going. Well, go in terms of staffing resources and monetary resources. I think we did ask the antistrileples on there repainting them. So Andy's working might say on consolidating everything and figuring out who's going to staff and who's going to financially support it. So I think the thought is it's going to shift away from EDO and more over the parks and rec. And I would think from the efficiency perspective, it makes sense for it to live with city staff as opposed to being maintained. Yeah. Yes. That's my only concern. Hi there. I don't want to sit in some businesses. You're a quick cloud only. We can highlight it if it's not bad. Is that a new parking without the front of the parking line right here? Despite shelter, not a hot show. Is that our colony? City hall. See I've seen my head. So we all got so 20. That was part of the whole line. Okay, looks good. This is just to highlight the fact that you guys have only to be forward board of rest shortly. We're going to check out all the details. I'm going to come back up. The amount of falls. We have a beginning in October to be in February. We didn't increase. Once your total restaurant count now. How many participants? No total. Oh, okay. Last time checked it was 158. So we got 42, so we're only about a quarter of them. We don't tend to get many from even center. We try. Big piece of it. Yeah, we try. And this is just a bit of an update on one of the items on the work time again about the people tax rate for professional services. So you see we've highlighted there what it is in Arlington County versus the City of Alexandria versus all search versus the City of Fairfax, Fairfax County, etc. We did get together with the commission of the revenue staff and asked them to give us an idea of what it would look like in the way of revenue loss if we reduce the rate. Currently there are 115 businesses that only pay 10 or $30 a year. And there are 276 businesses that pay the full 52 cents for a total of 390. Why if you drop the rate from 52 to 40 cents, so 12 cents, we would lose $302,000, basically. If we drop it all the way to 31 cents, we lose $529. This is just to give you an idea of what we've been able to find out in terms of revenue loss that could result. So this was just a report back on that data. Did you, do you have to do an analysis of what happened if you would just raise the threshold amount of work to tax rate case in? No. We agreed that. So we originally talked about this people it was with a focus on or I can want to say we, unless they meet when we talked about this a year ago, it was this idea of helping incubate smaller businesses and being more competitive from a tax rate perspective. And as opposed to just flat out lowering the rate for everybody, one thing that other jurisdictions have done to help businesses get started and hopefully false church because it's an amazing place to sticky. And then once they grow and get passed that critical growth stage, they decide to stay regardless of the tax rate is to raise that threshold because the first $100,000 of business makes, in some cases is like or death and if it's a few thousand dollars you get to save. Yeah, I mean it's not a windfall. But it does give some folks some breathing room and I think message is in a certain way. So I think what would be beneficial is if we ran that analysis of what happens to those 276, how many of those are the 50 to 100,000? Because I think 100,000 is the highest cap that I've seen, which I think is what they have in Arlington. And then the other thing from a people perspective, I'm just talking to General Tarmus for everybody here for discussion. If we are interested in creating an environment that helps incubate smaller businesses of a certain industry, there are jurisdictions like Arlington County that have reduced their tax rate for certain businesses that fall into a category to incubate those types of business. There's this focus on technology, but I've seen it for other types of industry. So if you're trying to get, quote, a move startups or new businesses in town in a particular industry, you can set aside a separate B poll tax rate structure that could be threshold as well as rate to give them a break to try to incentivize them to move from city of very fax to false church or wherever. So that's something else to consider. So I would be interested in the and I would be interested in the flat fee thresholds as well as if there are other incentive plans. I have some data as well. I'd be great. And I'd be happy to share with you guys. And I would go beyond just 100 100k. I'd probably go 100,000, 50k. Yeah, I just use I personally, I think 100k like it moves the needle a ton into a few thousand dollars you saving but I mean you could but if neighbors jurisdictions are at a hundred and we're at 150 then it helps slide the right helps slide people over give us a competitive advantage versus just being the same. Yeah, but I think ultimately it doesn't make much. Yeah, I mean if the idiot if we're all you know, comfortable prepared to have this conversation you, it could be what industries do we think based on what we know? Do we want to attract? We want to see more of, and it could be in the context of, or through the lens of a comprehensive plan, you know, the big vegans were talking about now or North Washington and the Gordner trying, when it's if, if we're planning, you know, for, for lower density flex and it's like makerspace and it's you know it's some tech but it's also some kind of like construction tech you flex and it's like makerspace and it's some tech but it's also some kind of construction tech. Maybe it's those businesses that you target. So I don't know what the answer is, but it could be something where we try to get ahead of the curve and say, are these other areas of the city that are being planned? We see these types of businesses going into this business district tech or otherwise, I just keep using that because that's what a lot of other jurisdictions do. Then we could go to council and say, we've looked at all of this. Here's what it means. Here's what a lot of other jurisdictions do. Then we could go to council and say, we've looked at all of this. Here's what it means. Here's what the quote unquote cost would be to the city for the businesses that exist. Here's the foregone tax revenue. If we chose this over what exists now and then make that pitch and see if we can't, can't move the needle there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, this is just kind of, you know, in that general category of the education of parents. It's these things are on the list and just group of different departments is looking into it. So we'll keep working on that. We've done this. This is an update on the holiday lighting. We had a system, I guess why it and let him have talked about it as well, but we had assistance from an intern in the planning department specifically, her name's Yasme. And we did an analysis of the power goals along South Washington, which is where we talked about putting holiday lighting. And it turns out, and it's really small, I know. The light's on. also long south Washington, which is where we talked about putting holiday lighting. And it turns out, and it's really small, I know, the lights on long south Washington are pretty much all on the bite of Indian there, not on the bite of city. You can see the little blue dots along broad where, you know, they're all on by the city and that's why we've used those power poles to light the lights on the trees. So anyway, this is just an update to say we're not going to be pursuing this. It's going to take an awful list for all attempts and purposes. What about that little section down there in South Washington where you get city on street lights? You mean down here? You know, I've been dead. Like Tenor Hill in Pearson Square. I think that's a possibility that there are gaps too in some of these places. If you look at this in large, you can see where there's like 50 feet in between the poles or 100 feet or 200 feet. Oh, I see that, no? Yeah. Okay. It just does not really a good match for what we wanted to do in terms of having enough lights to make it look really nice. Yeah, it would. And it's expensive. It's not inexpensive on broad street. So now we are from Washington up to Hey, yes. Yeah. And so basically, you're telling us is that's all we can do. I think so in that, I think that's where we landed is unfortunately. It's just not in the car. Okay. That's what I'm on. I'm sorry. Sorry about April. Well, April. And you know, our blue lights. We got there. Yeah, there's there's you. There's a couple of down here. We obviously have somebody developing coming online there. We have applications in. We have a roundabout coming in. We have a little bit of a gap. I mean, should it be, you know, as we look to make maple or our community way, should we look to the polls? Yeah, try to build that over the coming years. If not, jump down there and do some and try to close looked to. Yeah, trying to build that over the coming years. If not, jump down there and do some and try to close the gap at the time. I don't know that it's anything that EVA was prepared to develop three sources too, but you know, something city council probably be more likely to consider. So certainly, a possibility. Virginia Village. Why did you or Ross want to talk about that at all? We're going to talk about that at all? We want to talk about it at all. No, we do want to talk about it. Yes, so I asked why to join us tonight. There's been some questions and a bit of a lag in terms of the time that we've talked about Virginia Village. So as most of us know, the city owns a number of the quads over there for Virginia Village. Some are privately owned, some are owned, I want to say city owned, EDA, and then Atlantic Realty Ones, the three there that are, I'm just supposed to, to all America. Our partnership that we spent quite a bit of time foraging with Wesley to manage and also serve as part of, on say, the tip of the spear for a broader redevelopment initiative into a denser mixed income affordable workforce housing development is no longer. And so, couple things. One, we are most importantly in the current stage of looking for a new property manager. As the city attorney has determined, and we talked about extensively last year, the EDA nor the city needs to be in the business of owning and managing real states, especially residential real estate. So the property manager that was there, we now have RFP out looking for a new property manager so that that precedes anything else that we need to do over there. We have to get the new group in identified to manage these properties. And then secondary to that, there has been this discussion for many years, which was, again, the initiative to begin with, which are, how can we redevelop Virginia Village to get more affordable units in the city, and in that area where we already have, I would say a decent amount of critical mass. I'm out with White, with Letty and with Debbie a few months ago to talk about this. And as you all recall from our work plan, there was a discussion about engaging a consultant to help us determine what a strategy would be for redevelopment. I felt, and I think at least the group feels, and I want to get everyone's opinion here, that before we start paying somebody to go out and develop a plan, we should just do some fact-finding ourselves with participants in the market to see what the market will even bring to bear to say, hey, this is what the city owns now. This is what else is privately owned. What can we do with what we have? What can we do if we acquired more and what will the market bring to bear? Effectively to accomplish what we're thinking because what we may find out is that once too expensive it's not feasible, what we would need to get done is not something that we could get done based on current financial conditions or restraints that we have as a city or as an EDA. So we're doing some fact finding now, I do think it would probably be who us as an EDA to talk to some market participants ourselves that are in the business of building affordable housing or or or mix use or mixed income housing that may be a blend of market or otherwise. And then with that on the back of that, it would be reestablishing a working group and finding out other not-for-profit partner, again, depending on what the market tells us, just start talking about a longer-term plan for Virginia Village. Now, in addition to all of that, as everyone's fully aware, there's been a little bit of friction over the last three years in terms of the money that the EDA has given in the city to buy and finance the application revenues. Again, in service of trying to to assemble more property so we can do a property development for additional women supporting. In talking with why we have scoped out a preliminary plan for how that money would come back or what money the city affected we transferred back to the EDA that is not only money that sits in Virginia Village but is also some of the leftover part that we have and so I'd ask why it's come talk about that. He has submitted information to council it has not been discussed yet there's been a concept of a plan. Concept of a plan that's been discussed. But it still has not been approved by council. If you're OK with the water, I'm happy to talk about what that plan is in general terms. You can correct me if I'm wrong on anything. So thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I think it best if you sort of spoke with what your idea is, what do you think would be a fair resolution? And I think it'd be best for me to sort of reserve my comments until after I haven't chance to discuss with the City Council. Yeah, okay. So what we had taught about is there's about $400,000 unused parking lot money that's sitting out there. We haven't used okay. So, what we had taught you about is there's about $400,000 in unused park lot money that's sitting out there that we haven't used that. So, the idea that I floated was give us the $400,000 back. That is money that does not require, in my opinion, a substantial debate, is that was money that we were using to build capital for just to begin with. So, to get the $400,000 back, And then the additional $500,000 of change that's still sitting in Virginia Village as opposed to getting into an arm wrestling match for City Council about getting that large slug of money back mainly because, and I will say this is a fair comment, if we don't have a place to spend that money right now, it doesn't seem like it's necessary for us to go through the fight of asking for the whole 500 back. So what we had talked about, the concept was pay us back as though it's a lump for the time being. And what that will allow us to do based on our work plan is treat that like guaranteed revenue because that's been the challenge that we have as an EDA, frankly. Now that we're not doing big projects and participating, we're getting back to basic, banners, beautification, streetscape, etc. That doesn't require a lot of money, but like running any business, we need to at least have some line of site on what revenues coming in on a regular basis. So if we get a slug of $400,000, in my opinion, that gives us more than enough runway to accomplish the work plan that we have, whether it's the streetscape stuff, or Walter Phillips lights, et cetera. And then the $500,000 with a reasonable interest rate, reasonable interest rate, would provide effectively loan repayments back to the EDA for some specified period of time, until the city council and EDA gets to a point where we say, you know, what now we have a place to spend those hundreds of thousands of dollars. We'd like that for that repayment, but let that be negotiation going into the future. So again, $400,000 back now, a repayment, treat the $500,000 as a loan coming back to the EDA on a regular basis. And we treat that effectively as revenue like we would in a transit occupancy tax so we can start to build a budget off of that. So that's the concept of the plan why did I get that right? So that is a plan and City Council has not discussed that yet. One thing I will say in terms of timing we would like to discuss this with the City Council in the context of the adoption of the 2026 budget and so I think it's good for the EDA to discuss a concept and then we will carry forward with a dialogue with the City Council. I will get a direction from the City Council and see if we can reach resolution on this. One thing that I think is a universal statement is that the city is appreciative of the EDA's partnership on this and so we're looking for a resolution that works. Just a couple very diplomatic responsible. A couple financial Yeah, Jim, if I understood the interest rate is 47%. I was saying that. The order would have been like the number one. Go ahead. The 400 is in the park. Then I understand you say that money will come back. We have asked for that money to come back and it's entire company. And then the 500 is the piece we're talking about coming back with our portions. What's the portion we did monthly? We have not landed. Why, any, the preference in the city would be what is a kind of a preferential municipal interest rate, as opposed to thinking about it as like a true equity return, which I can appreciate. But those are the finer details that would need to be worked out. Again, it's been a good partnership. What was the original amount of the ADA in low to the city for the acquisition? 925, 925,000 dollars. So it's been a good partnership. That was negative interest. Yeah, yeah. A good partnership. I'm gonna start a financial question. We have up there that Wesley had gotten three properties under contract. Is that the $3 million Amazon grant that was used to purchase those properties? Well, actually, that one that's highlighted in red, we need to correct. Wesley did buy that with city money and then when he's gonna come back to the city. So the city will own that one. It's highlighted in red. We need to help. That's just a procedural thing. That is a good pay a dollar. That'll be a blue to a West lane. We get the property. Right. And that'll be a blue color. And the two red stars they purchased. Now those those just indicate that there's one on the single area. So they picked up one property. And of course they they still have money. Yeah, they have it. And what about the $3 million, where does that sit? So there's a balance still within the acquisition strike fund. And that balance is about $4 million, including the grants that you refer to, and including a HUD grant that we've gotten. And so, do your timeline on that one? There is, and there are lots of rules associated with that money. And so, what's that timeline? Well, the timeline, we were in close communication We were in close communication with Virginia housing and we will need extensions on the time lines They've driven us and they've given us verbal assurances that those extensions will be granted so it's fine Question would be if we have $4 million that's dedicated to a four-wheel-housing strike fund will allow us to build would we not say this in public meeting that would we not give you a leisure sponge to strike? Virginia Housing wants to produce house that's that's their mission and so it's a good partners that we didn't House and we want to do that before or so Virginia housing with it so the use of those funds who would own the properties when if we use that money to buy properties in the city on those or so ultimately the goal is to get the properties into a nonprofit ownership's status and the interim here the EDA would be this we, we would seek the EDA to that money, we use that money to purchase. It would have to be worth the blessing of Virginia housing. But then we would own the EDA, it would own them again on large heavy half of the city. That is correct. And subject to the terms of an MOU, so that everything's very clear about what the expectations offer for this problem. Is anyone made any further discussions with the existing landowners about using this funds to purchase? We have, there have been no further indications of additional quadruxes to be acquired since the past 12 months. So you have probably been in the active one. Probably a better closed session to discuss. But anyway, there have been no transactions in the last 12 months. So that's a quick question to be asked. asked. Just a quick question. Some of the state legislature passed out of a photo housing field. Does that make our prospects easier based on having money available? No. Now that's really more relevant to inclusionary zoning and how we partner with private sector to produce the A.U.s. Our authorities for this are under existing law. That one's for like density bonuses. You know, the density value we get for housing contribution. It doesn't clear up this particular. So the cadence of Virginia Village right now is there's an RFP out for the management which is priority number one. We have to find somebody to manage the assets that we have. priority number two is for us to research the market before we set up the working group and potentially our consult. Why and others have been reaching out and talking to folks. Matt and Jim, I know from a work plan perspective, this was you guys were assigned to this. Jim, you were taking lead, Mag were working with him. I would say as long as you all are not moving projects forward, that it would be okay for you guys to do some independent research. If you want to talk to some developers about the lay of the land, It is the market is a bit of a hot mess right now. And so that'll probably be different than the answer when we get in six months. But I do think that we need to test the market and kind of understand how capital is flowing, what construction costs are like, and what's actually feasible. And then the third priority, and again, before we get the cart ahead of the horse, I think it is incredibly important that we get this funding agreement done for the EDA. So we don't money the water here. I'm going to a lot of progress to get that money back, which we're going to need because we don't have any money right now. And so that's going to allow us to accomplish a lot of good things. I want to make sure we get that done first and And so that would be part of the budget conversation, the council. I'm supposed to present on EDA's, I have on May 12, tentatively, but trying to find a better date for that. If you all can join, or would like to join, as a show of force to scale up people, or more than welcome to show us that too. Why, just to give ourselves the best chance possible, because then it does a common question of, okay, well, we're gonna give ED and this money back, which we feel is rightfully ours, but we wanna be good partners. What are you gonna use that money for? That presentation to City Council is to give them an idea of this is our work plan, this is where we want to spend money and so I'd like to be able to present that at least certainly before or at the same time that you're presenting this idea of hey give this money back to EDA so they know because the question will naturally come up okay you're going to even the money back what are they going to use it for and I'd rather message what we're going to use it for before. That's presented. So if you tell me what kind of that critical date is to where we can come and present to say, hey, this is this is how we're going to spend money over the next year. I'd like to do that before. Is that an April situation or is that? So it is in April 7th situation. We're talking about the affordable housing bond in multi-year planning. Use of the affordable housing bond. Okay. So that is the night we're buying the top of April 7th. Come on down, please. Oh, that's this Monday, yeah. Oh, this Monday? This Monday. Yeah. You said it yourself. Well, they all, let's go. Let's do it. It works great. All right, Paul, agenda. Got to be quick. I'll be quick. All right. I'll never take up more time than I should. Yeah. So just a quick, just a quick, you know, Matt and I have talked about this. The, it's one thing to talk about what the perspective might be from developers about the eventual development of this site. I see that as a far as the trees come and the trees are sitting in front of us and I personally feel like the EDH should work with the strike fund and with city manager and aggressively get as many as these properties we can get. Yeah, I hear you Jim. My thinking was talking to developers, which this is going to provide this is going to require private sector involvement. Talking developers and saying, okay, based on the land managers we have, the ownership that we have, knowing that we don't have enough money to buy it every single one of these quads that we don't own already, which ones would you buy? And if we had to do this in phases, which ones would be a part of first or they may say, there's a way for you guys to get started now, and then you'd want to pick and choose these others. And so I would just take to go out and unless there is a ticking clock, it says you got to spend that money in six months. It would make sense to me to find out from folks that really know what they're doing to say, well, based on what I think is feasible. Because again, we have setbacks, we got commoners, all sorts of stuff, figuring out where we would spend that money and at least having those conversations we know where to target. And I personally do not think we need to pay a consult $30,000 to tell a step. There's plenty of people out there that will give us free of us. But think about this, we're talking hiring somebody to operate the properties we do have control. Well, if we add more properties over time we get control. It may be 10 years down the road before it's about like playing at even the, that's our considered. But we would have control of the property and be in a position to make the right kind of decision when the market says this is time to move. And if something were to come on the market, the city would be the active participant regardless. I think the question becomes, are we going to be passive or are we going to be active? Just remember, and Ross is saying we need to be active with you. Just remember, our state charter as an ADA to acquire property because it's service of a larger assembly of redevelopment rather than otherwise not having. And so I want to be able to go out to taxpayers, to other folks that are watching what's happening and saying we are by property not just because we're trying to acquire property, I'm a monopoly board, but it's because we have a plan for a larger assemblage of this is what we're doing. My understanding is, is ticking clock is not what's what's the time for everyone that what? Well, it's on my Sundays. Yeah, that's what's the worst, let's worry about that. Yes. Our biggest worry has been getting a property manager under contract. And that's what we've been talking about. That's probably the... I just don't want to make sure we don't get to a point where these money's are going away and we're struggling to spend them like we did a year ago with our funds. What are we going to do with those things? I'd like to. And those dollars get weaker weaker when we carry that. Usually. Well, I think the goals are clear. You know, April 7th, next Monday, we're gonna be ready to go. Rock and roll. We'll just set target. Just put a picture of flour up there and I'll just talk for 15 of us, you know. What time I've solicited, what time is that happening? So we'll be the early part of the agenda. So CSP is first, then a formal housing fund, and then... You're at the end of the night. I'm serious, serious about that. Now it's right now. That's it. But it's after CSP, you know? The CSP will be an hour. So bring a tenth. Well, we have to reach my back now. They call me. Oh, man. You just watch the meeting when you think you're close. You don't want to move me to the top of the agenda? They know what you're talking. I'll I'll I'll show you I will see it under 15. Yeah. Is I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I in the city, how did West Falls have a name yet, but they have one new tenant that they have said is at least the all of the apartment buildings 30% least. Now we've just talked about this couple of us, basins famous lobster rolls is open. Naomi's been there, Phil's been there, I don't know whether others have. A lot of these projects are in building permits in some way, shape, or form. The retail that's laced is about 67%. So they're getting there. This is just, this is probably not information you particularly care about. Virtue and broad, crust pizza is going to take over the down and up space. No great big shakes. Founders to the apartments are 15% least. All clinics can be one of them. That's right. Uh huh. What's he moving in? June 1st being top of the end of that. And they have a new lease sign for a veterinary kind of a clinic to go in there. And they are at least they say with the health and fitness tenant close. They always at least 10,000 square feet of restaurants. So they still I think OS one more restaurant. So it's hot days will report that the space you're taking. I believe so. That's my shame. The patio on the side of it. So we're moving right along. Founders one from theater is supposed to come. Phil's been in there and done a recon right Phil? Just up my notes through the door and talk to the guy. And they're ABC license right? Yeah, I mean, so they have their house and ABC license. So it's really going to happen. Made it first. The dumpling place we've told you about before has a different name but it's still a dumping place. The senior buildings 90% lays the apartments are 97% lays and this union be strobe. That's great. They're moving right along. So the dark, the dark leaves are the available stuff. Correct. We can be sure of that. Right. It is. Okay, that's definitely a different owner. Yes pipe is off and we know it's not. You can have a look ahead. So Naomi took this photo. She went to this grand opening up at West Falls. Let me see Jim Coil. Man, when? Ladies. It's a nice tour. Yeah. Not a lot to talk about this. Final action on this building on the corner of Spring Street is 16 to 8 months. This is going to happen. It is, but it's probably for sale. Well, it is. It's supposed to be a headquarters for this recognized business. It's on the planning commission and we'll finish up at the planning commission. He also has properties on hardgabin that he's had some trouble with. And he was hoping to sell those to help pay to build this. So I'm not 100% sure on the timing of when we might so see this building happen. You're just headed for approval. When you get word, I don't know whether any of you have noticed that awnings on the slot with rare bird are looking pretty shabby and are in bad shape. The property owner let us know if they're putting in new awnings and new lighting in mid-bay. So that's gonna look a little different, not better. Stratford Garden, if you haven't invited a lot of pages, haven't seen anything new since the demolition was completed. They were working today, you know, so I've walked. Yeah. Becky, remind me, go back to Ocean's Keys property. So the property management operations get it reached out to us. They plan to re-stripe that parking lot as well as the one in the 100 block of Park Avenue. And obviously that makes it a bit much of city spaces. It's probably been five or six years since we did the city spaces, but that might be another thing to add to that and maybe that's scheduled. So that would. And that's on the 200 block chart. I haven't done. Well, 100 block. When was around the Park? Yeah, that has been. these spaces are kind of intermixed was around the park is that has a city spaces are kind of intermixed involved. Yeah, yeah. And that was a source of a lot of telling for people to use which ones were city ones. We put a bunch of new signs in and new striping and new green paint I think. So it might be good to time refresh that from the price. That's something we do resets some of those. I guess I would I'm sure you should go on that to meet Ms. List that yeah, I'll ask to add that. Well, and they had asked us if we had any recommendations for how to strike the spaces back behind this building. Those are so that people didn't get towed. So that you know it's clear to people that if they park there and they're not patronizing these businesses they might get towed. I don't know we have any great. Well they've striped them only but they put the address. Yeah they'll put that on there but they said even despite that people still park there and they feel bad about it. Just told some of the places put on in the spot like reserved. Yeah no they're going to say clearly it says the address. It does. We know the new address is hard. I don't know if there's a magic solution to that but there's no city. Well and back and behind here the architects building we contract on that most recent one has fallen through its back on the market. And did because that fell through February? Well the brewery ran away and a dentist went away. So there are other people looking. And as the dentist has been looking. Correct. They had an undercut. It's fallen out. That's a pinch of an inch. Is that the name? Standard garden is up through all the rushes. Yes. Well, those are places where. Yep. Little Falls Cafe, they're in inspections. So, fairly soon we haven't heard an opening day yet. Good afternoon. Good project. little false cafe there in inspections. So fairly soon we haven't heard an opening thing yet. My project final, BC approval was received. So looking good. The next time we're angry. Broad Washington still just the little beast. They're progressing really quickly actually through building safety. They still have one space left. This is the most the residential is right now. 63 of you. Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was in the mid 60s, but it's been a couple. Yeah, they're doing really well. Doing well. I think it's slow over top of over top of clarinone. What I'm saying. No, that wouldn't surprise me. Is that maybe slow on that stuff? Yes. The former target building, the grill marks, they're hoping to open in May or June. They've been using snacks. Gross reality is going to open next year. And the gallery of florists and this flower shop that was the former custard place, are there actually open? May only went by. I saw it. Yeah, well, the flowers are here. The grocery outlet is the August of 25. Fit out for opening in early 26. Well, the fit out, we think they're going to start this. This office. Right. And then opening next. So we're not talking the end of price the project. At least the first half of the mission. Okay. So not quickly. And even center. Lots of new options. Seos issued for a couple of more waiting for plans for a couple more. But did you know anything more about any of these? At least it's not opening mid-April zone two weeks. Exciting. Lucky Strike, I think we shared with you last month, their plans are in for review and Paris Baguette, and the Aldi Shopping Center. They're going to build a patio there for outdoor dining. I'm in Lady some great photos of the Browns hardware celebration. See Lady there, fair and chip coil, all the celebrities, rust loop can house there, here, all kinds of interfaces, wide shields, city council. That was a nice event. What is that? It gets credit for organizing that. Olivia Jeffers, far away of the Ferrer as an individual. She did it a remarkable job. There were other businesses that participated if she was... It's an helpers, but she spearheaded it. That she spearheaded it. She actually got T-shirts with the relief. Yeah. I got a helper give him out of it, so cool. They had a concert there. And then we get to the conflict of interest disclosures and the afternoon at the closed session. You want to get number eight when you're generally with a company meeting other days? Sure. There we go. So this Thursday, if anyone would like to come, the paper covers Gallup. Starts at 6 o'clock. Maybe you should, if anybody can help me. Just can't even let the joins. We go to the baby center ideas, we still have a name. Um, like the author, one of my daughters might be well-fifth. Yeah, text me after self. I'll find out. Just want to be here. Uh-huh. So, accessory dwellings, final consideration is expected on April 14th. Day 1st is the Jim Snyder Changemaker Awards, not placings. Next, the A reading is scheduled for May the 6th. And then as mentioned the 7th. Oh, we need to add that. We'll add that. The 8th or reported city council will be next Monday. Anybody wants to join? We're doing the whole report. I can't find the whole report or what's there not what was there's there I thought it was the whole report or what's there not what was there's there Was the whole report is there some other So from April 7th are we gonna put Ross on for the whole annual report plus the money discussion or now I was saying just for the summer-note for the. So, all right. So what I'll do is I will talk about briefly our work plan where we're going to spend money. That's what I thought about our last time. And then we'll be asking. Yeah. Okay. Is there need to do that? To do what? How's it going on Monday? Yeah, because we want to make sure that we get that budget request in during budget on a arrange. Yep, let me tell you. Does that mean that you're going to be doing the annual part of the 12th? No, the rest of the little children like August will figure it out. I want to get the money first and then we'll... We'll tell them all the amazing things. And then we'll see what team with the CSU. And then you can see the last thing I'm hearing. Some potential ribbon cuttings filled out. And we'll get them scheduled. We'll get on the high level work plan, gen items as a lead in, a justification for the revenue. So whatever that section is, but like one slide basically. Yeah. Yeah. Just a brief interview. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Is that any of your groups of ULI? Yeah. What do we know? No, well. Yeah. I will be at the ULI. So the ULI, the changemaker award, I'm still receiving that. I will be at the UI. So the ULI, the changemaker, or Wrench, and Steiders receiving that, I'll be there, my company, we actually, we sponsored it. So I'll be able to feel the folks in my company. Do we have a table for the city? We've dealt. And the early bird special setting that just ended. Okay, yeah, it's not inexpensive. It's 185 or a was. It's a little higher than that per person. It's a, it's a ULI. Oh, it's the same. Well, the name. The name first, yeah. Sure. Yeah. That's the first. Maybe the college for smart growth thing in Melbourne, may have like 180. Not there. can be there I think it would be a nice gesture too because it's Jim. Yeah I'm happy to go. I will check. No, just shoot me a quick email and say I'm in and we'll figure out how to get you registered. Yeah yeah okay. It's um early good news early events today. This is the email and tonight we probably could get right bothered into that in the next couple of days. Um, it is Jim. Sorry. I mean, it's the default search room. We're public. So it's 245 245. Is it really? Are we members? Really cutting one. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We on website. Registered two or more. You have to get with count. We'll ask them a grand father. Yeah. And I just I just might copy we've sponsored it. We'll figure it out. If you want to go just tell him whether tonight or next week. We'll figure out. Just. We'll just let that know. I'll say college, smarter growers are having their recognition in the city. 14th. 14th. Downtown. Martin Luther King Library. That's that doesn't cost that much. It's a part of what's group is that. Phil coalition for smart across. Steve. Thank you. Great to know. I'm sure it's right. What's on his fill? Six o'clock. Yeah, it's early. It's like a basically an after work. I think for for them. 20 days. How recognition the buyer actually. A really very good. You're listed in the award. Who do you have the planning commission? I think Jen Paul I add the names to the award. Well, she, she says MLK library. Yes, you are right. There is a ribbon cutting for the daycare center of the West Coast Saturday at 930. So we'll send that out so everybody goes. You guys have been great about showing up to things. I'm sorry, I'm very much appreciative. So Black time, Bill. I'm serious. It's not Black time. The 14th time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking. It's here. It's there. There's a need to start planning that for everybody to be. I'm excited. Oh, it's hot point. What was the only answer? What was it? You don't want to get one out? I know Elise has been talking to them all along. I know a lot to check. And after her Kayla first and I, yeah, This is Swainon with her. Make sure the land gets on the day itself. Maybe by first the little t- to send we just go local. Yeah, and you feel like deal about simply should find some needs to be a very must have. So yeah, sure. One tears right? But that movie theater from some Yes,. I don't want to send them on you. Okay. All right. Do we have any other member issues in any of anyone else to bring up? We're good. Okay. So we have a closed session. I have a statement that I want to make because we're going into closed session on something real estate related. So I type this just a reading, not Shakespeare. So tonight, an agenda item related to a proposed mixed use projects that the corner of South Maple and Anadale Road will be discussed. In September 2023, my firm, Capable, and Real Estate Advisors was engaged and paid a fee by this developer to produce a physical impact study for this project. Although my farm and heart no longer undergain, so with the developer for any work related to this project or fees and haven't been for quite some time. As a member of the EDA, I decided to recuse myself from any discussions or deliberations had by the EDA as it relates to this development project. I will now turn the meeting over to Vice Chair Jim Coil to see you all through close session and then adjournment. Thank you all. All that I did, I wrote that part. Can we go downstairs? Yes. I have no idea. Yes. So, one on the right. You have to, one on the right. Or excuse me, so if you go in those rooms, they can't get in there. You good? Just fight for a guy. Just be careful. Go, go, go to go into a close session. Yeah, I'm not going to go into this race. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure I can write. I want to have a vote. So I read you want to read it? I moved at the heavy get going to close session. Just to be a code 2.2 cash 37 11 a 3 for the discussion and consideration of the dis position position of, um, I can't see anything. I'm wondering how real property because discussions are thinking. There you go. Oh, that's right. In an open meeting, what adverse impact the bargaining position of the negotiating strategy at the EU? Specifically, the focus will be discussing consider a letter and 10 offered by SIP's, the R& and Call Strictly, and the acquisition of E.A.O. real property located in the intersection of New Albion and ANO rubbed and identified as parcels between the dash, three or nine dash, 11, five containing approximately 42 to 55 square feet. Second, sir. We'll call Alan Brangman. Yes. The children are mine. Yes, can coil. Yes. That Gwen. Yes. Your Roscoe. No, so. That's it. We at least have four. I just hope it's taken. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of pressure. I'm just gonna. I don't know. I don't know. consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. I heard consulting. 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I move that the EVA reconvene and open session at the Minister of Select No Formal Action was taken in the closed session. Okay. Now we have an So I should read. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second on the album. Quick roll call. Jim. Yes. Michelle. Alan. Alan. Yes. Okay. So now we have a motion to be made. We need one more motion here. Next page. Yep. I move that the E day certify that only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements and to only such public business matters as we're identified in the motion by which the meeting was convened, where her discussed, were considered in a closed session or meeting of the body. Second. Okay. Okay. Jim Coil, Michelle Vermon, Ellen Breinman, Yes, yes. Yes. Okay, good. Okay, now we have to come up with exactly. Yeah, we have. I have a question. I'm going to put it down. Yes. Okay. Okay. Now we have to come up with exactly. Yeah. We have. We have another. We have written down. Yes. Okay. Yes. I move to direct. I love it. I move to direct the director of economic development to proceed as discussed in the executive session. Second. Second, and I sorry. Jim. Okay. All right. So roll call. Jim Coil. Yes. We'll show their money. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Now we'll move forward. Move. Okay. We'll see you Thank you both I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. He's taking a second one in on Del- A puppy, like a puppy in the mushroom. Wow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not even as time said. Oh, that's super awesome. He's like, I'm not sure he's going to build a new car. He's just in there. Oh, I'm way up to your heart. Thanks, Jim. Thanks for coming. Thanks. I think our plans for the Hall will be completely different. Thank you, Alan. So it's awesome. Thank you. So thank you. Thank you all for the wonderful meeting. Thank you all. The crew, the one next to them. They made the right decision. Anybody want to take a water? They didn't have it. They didn't have it. They didn't have it. Thank you, Nail. Thank you very much. There's an accident on the road. I'm not going to need that. I'm going to get inside the car.