I need to take a moment to the public, with the ready defense as well. Thank you, I just, I certainly agree with this. Orgina, the shield running, the shield running. Check, check. You don't know how to do it. You don't know how to do it. Okay. Okay. Can I go forward, member? Okay. So I'll work in the floor to make one of your services. That's the end of the secretary. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. certainly. Thank you. Any, any, uh, numbers of questions, moments, you know, issues with the meeting minutes from August. Thank you. She is for you, then. Uh, yes. Is this the right opportunity to talk about the efficient street or for be another opportunity later. I'm going to go later on versus comedy. I will call you. Okay. Okay. All visits to comedy. Yeah, I was about to almost for a minute. Yeah. So then we did interview a chance to I was about to almost whisper a few minutes. Yeah, I think it was all right. So then we did a huge, you had a chance to meet with the students and they were like, okay, and Jason, I really, with that, I mean, I mean, not that, sorry. You would do those, it's a last minute, yeah. Yeah, last minute, okay. All of a day, we're over a few minutes, really about speed, say hi, hi, hi, hi. The motion carries. We have some questions to teach. We have a new session public. We've been joining from. So. We want to have a fast and open vision by the whole new agenda to all citizens. All citizens, however, a motion to add the division to such as the old business, my name, and my motion carried. Okay, so applying to the new optimism of the original division. Sure. So the update is there's continuing to have accident after accident. I have stated before during these meetings and you know, just for the neighborhood that one day they'll be a child involved and last, not the last accident, but the accident before that. We had to pull a baby out of the vaccine. So if someone will be killed, it's nothing's done about it. And then maybe a lawsuit, I don't know, but someone will be killed for sure. And if I can make another obligation, a lot of these same issues, and you can really talk to, to provide division name of a gate here, they've been here for 20 years, they've seen probably over 40 different accidents and the cars will go into the gate because there's no stop sign here. The city of city of the four different division and district direction. The city of San Diego will not implement a stop sign. By personally, I've talked to them for work time to ask for five years. They have conducted traffic surveys in which they say that they do not mind evidence of steam. They do not seem to find any evidence of accidents. And this could be because some of the accidents either aid or get reported, a lot of these accidents are made in funds, or be when they're reported or reported on the national aid by non-sense. So I know where data is connected to that. So correct, so this right here is the number one problematic area. So you have to be speaking as they're going down to sell no this is the same angle side this is the nationality side. It's literally even the visible line down the street and that's why this is so difficult for them to meet other folk initiatives. But this is all about what San Diego did do for us if they put these white lines here. However, as evidence can provide, there's been so many hit and runs that they were here, had's been so many hidden runs, the nature here had hidden bond right here, finding where here had hidden bond, she had hidden bond. So these are the maybe just three to three to one and four audience week or two months this fall. The most significant, the first thing we mentioned, the neighbor met. The neighbors right here, they brought you two loves to explore. I keep inviting him to come, but I know he looks familiar. So, James, I can't hear you. I'm not just talking about all this, the other things that happened. We had that word. Two groups here. He's had more than one hit in front, one one recent hit, let's do that. He came over because I had cameras and they from over and asked me, hey did you have a little bit of a hit in your room? Jen, the other night, it's two nights ago, they were saying, hit in front, well, no, it wasn't, you probably didn't say hit. There was a part of directly in the scenes. There is a whole electric pole I don't know that's showing. Right here, right here. It was late at night right here. So as you can see, there's a line here. A car was parked literally right here. The car was speeding, I'm sure, right? It was 11th of the at night and it ran into this car, the ship ran into this, which ran into this car to park. And so my neighbor, if you are this house right here on the corner, he was walking his dog on this alleyway on the other side. So he saw the little thing and we were gotten hit. Remember, there's no lights. It's the picture flat. So there's no safety and we went into the cross the street. In fact, when I cross the street, I'll do what my flash light on, come and go and wave it like this so far as continue. So it's pitch black. I'd like to see it in the morning. I'm gonna go for it. It doesn't, if you're launching, you can buy a motion after maybe more. It's strong on my phone. It doesn't look like a... You can go to the entire motion after maybe more. Those are what I'm going to do. Yeah, you should. You can see. You can have a light here. We can do cliffings for a functional city. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For San Diego. Okay. Yeah, we can have a nice. Yeah, we can have a nice. Yeah. Yeah. help with that. Yeah, we can help with that. Yeah, we can help with that. Yeah, we can help with that. Yeah, we can help with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see these right here? This is from all apps. Okay, a question that I have for you again. The stop sign on division cannot be implemented. It was there, I'm very privileged by MUTCB that is a standard that this, for example, means style of stop sign where they go recommend it's going to be a problem. There is no way that a single single sign deals with a national sign in the potential of the volume of the patient. It's higher than the volume of the sign. What about the travel suits? As the saying is, it's going to be more of a test point. Dolly, I think that something that can be prevented easily is asking if it's able to increase record here for disability. If you think that it's with disability issues, basically adding additional record on both sides, if you think that the outcome is a broad experience, if you think that there is usually a big track by King on the side, they can Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually do this volume. They go mostly to the volume of course of these accidents. I need to check the check piece of the data. I think what we need quite a bit of data. I'm sure that every time they probably are still in my family. They probably think I'm a major care and I'm care and every time I have the first one after. Oh, thank you for being here. Oh my God, you're seeing something and I'm like, Cheva, like this. So, um, people are really finding, um, for the crosswalk, um, yeah, it should hear, um, usually the, um, yeah, the crosswalk usually when they study high volume of the grant at the expense and probably they do not have a expense center or they do not have a expense center and attractive area where the people really cross. Yeah, that is going to take that. We went to the daycare, she said it's going to be five kilometers away. We put on the other phone, we should read it. Basically most children's mom, right? There's three. Here. If you go down here, there should be a sign, right? And it's part of it. See, one of the yet things in that I'm sure on here. There should be a sign on there. I think it's a new location. I used to be one. I think it's one of my house. And this is the one that we want to know the information that these people have. Yeah, this one. This we ship it most of the day but people know and this is an analysis. One side. Oh, she had a hint brought to. Did she have a hint about that? The owner of this day fair. What does it mean? That one, she was five, it's one hit. On the same kill with the patient. Yes. That one was five, the patient and the head. She told me that she performed this with police, with the police and that they found out their case, and it is a good conference. But yes, the owner of the state care, I was offered her, she also had an organization. If she was five, then I'd have a date on the above a date, that would be five, right? Yeah, you can see this. So it's so too. Yeah, and we. If you see that issue is disability, we cannot stand to add a shared term that maybe it's a more valid solution. Other opportunities and other roles probably. You see issues even on these types of, and I don't know if it's something that's a bit more, it's. I don't know if the visibility is achieved. It's a litigation of, yeah, litigation is achieved. And I think I will tell you, of what I just leave away with. It never had been a stop sign about 95% of those accidents would not have happened. Yeah, probably we did not stop sign with the least and people of most human qualities. I think that's why I think we you with a lot of speed bumps. Yeah, this speed bumps, many times, I don't know if the CSED will have somewhat of a really traditional speed bumps, but the emergency does not lie, speed bumps just to slow down the season at Corridor. I know that there's something that the fire of these rules and the only thing that we can amend in the community on the connections besides, you see that it's because of the bomb I'm from all these countries. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. This one, the most racial round. Yeah, all the yellow. Yeah, the white is one that's right here. That's the one. Yeah. Then we can make them. They're raised. They're home ground. This one. Yeah. They can feel home by the, I can ask this immediately, the kind of enhancement on the national side, but you can issue with what we found with the foundation of the website. Yeah. It was really because, on the way to the home division of Westbound. Yeah, it, I mean, Westbound is really, because Eastbound, Eastbound, you're building up to that home. Yeah. And people are generally slowly down because of, because of the only home and forest signal, but under coming down, there got no increase in speed. So my experience on the Eastbound speed West Bank's field is high on the field. So I want to go back to that. Okay, all of the national team will have a right. Yeah, I think we're going to have some fun. And the morning is to find the fastest possible and the vision has no stop signs. Full road, they don't care that it's a residential area. They've known that we're forced to do anything. I've seen jobs, we heads, bones, blood everywhere. Of course, are you? Or I think that I'm first considered to have to find a job. Do you use any of that, particularly into the data or? No, I've talked to every single officer and they just don't want to do something. They say sorry, you could be good control. As you can, can you just wait right here and catch the speeders and they don't have to resist and the key things that they are important to you just okay. So they're regulation. My question is the regulation of the stop time. So I understand that speed bumps and pumps and you know those type of things will interfere with emergency services. So I get that, but for stop signs, they can run stop signs, right? Sure. So what's the, either save lines, or... I don't know. I just say it's for stop signs. For stop signs, I don't. I just stayed for a certain sign. For some people, I don't know if it's just going to be a vaccine or a revelation. And then we need to check. Oh, yeah. What's the information? For some people, they can have a house, they can be a coffee place, I'm talking about houses, I think, but I can't believe that. And also, you know, they do that and I have an unknown bit excited for the three months. I have a question. We asked them to tell us what their options might be for a litigation or scheme of money. Yeah, because, uh, just as those talks have been crossing, then we never have been crossing crosswalk. People say not, keep on moving forward. That's why I thought that you need to find a better home. We can ask them to buy their business and show them about the crossings and the top sign. I know. One thing I think putting the question to them, answering them, what it is they could do, forcing them to be a person can be a response. Yes. Well, ensure our own deviation on this issue. Unless we have our own deviation. For the subject. It's really good for you to take that over. Please inform. So that's possible. Yeah, how much time actually through behind it? And as the report from PD, send an email to the students in the area or an email or a startup, you know, the last excellence. So they've helped out on that. I was a little bit of response. Yeah. And so they came in and they did not register a MacDog or he'd done that four times in past five years. And they've done survey after survey after survey. They keep saying, oh, yeah, it probably is a requested to do, you know, or a crosswalk or a style sign, we never would be working on this, you see. Probably is to get used to that kind of a question. That's what we say, you know some of you know something that can be the some of the signage that show your speeds. I just told, I need my post a more backup to see that they are able to make some core statements more repeatedly, since the division has a few. We don't have issues with the speed of code, it's being more practical so that the more we see the game. I don't think that that's the solution. I don't think it's going to make it happen. Yeah, what I'd say is that kind of some kind of a researcher that can make up all to someone going to pass on the, on the road that's probably the better solution than asking for a spot sign, but also, they can find a different solution that can be prevented by some team that's easier. So the last problem with me is I think you were gonna think of a thing we're going to go talk to the Council. So where does that stand? Right now, we're just going backwards. Yeah. So we mentioned last time. Okay. For the video, we're going to speak out a bit. the studio. We were just, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, you see, situation. So what is the regulation or policy that is saying that you can test that? as statewide recognition needs more trust as life was seriously used. Even for our community, we'll have an answer. So I'm going to show you the kind of criteria of an answer for this for the weekend. I will let you know why you're not presenting this sequence subject. Now, you can find you have a year or time where, for example, on the center you have a year of time, whether, for example, on the center of just that year, or in just sections, whether it was implemented for a time, was a grant quality, but for reviewing the sections, it's about the regulations that needs to be followed, in what I mean in the fossil. Is that what Sandy is saying? That's it. I'll call it for now. I hope that basically something that needs to be... And I will probably let you know the term the new Earth's accreditation for the fossil fossil fossil. The problem is, if you don't meet the criteria, you cannot have a fossil. And what did Sandy ever respond? For the fossil fossil fossil, and they were based on the stock sign, but only one that we have been supporting the cross scene, that they were going there for 9.99 and then 9. The issue is, because I went here with Carlos, we did that, we went to talk to the daycare, and we did the, we stayed there when there's several times. We didn't see medicine crossing, high mobile crossing, that's why we never be able to cross the foundation. But for the day, I'll say there are other improvements that can be done, that is done across the whole store circle. And that is the 100%, that can be done, but for crossing, I don't think that would be more. Is that what they said? That is the point of using the able, because we reach out to them, you reach out one time, I reach out to them. I went to see them, we see work code municipal code and they have some photo policy for crossing. One of these is, there is an ask-in-the-resign MTS over BASCA by AER. Here we don't have MTS going on the vision. Okay, this is a little point. They have some sort of points and this is cannot be more for crossing to have a high density cross-moving. But let me say that's why to ask them for a cross-moving, they will never accept that and request. But if you do different kinds of advice that can be high-pissed, really increasing vector, both rough markers, all rough signage that has that flashback, actually, that shows your speed. That can be more implement from seriously. But I thought it already been proposed. I don't know. I don't think that that's been from a bathroom saying when you talk to the city council for me, from my side, I'm going to provide them that have the same case period. Then normally that they will need to have an analysis. Because you know, this is an action. This is a time it's still happening. From my side, I'm with Michelle, her goal is asking something different. And for your side, if you wanna go to the university council, you will need to provide them something like, you know, some hand hands make that slow to slow down the child. You could help me. If I can, I would take another just so we can go your side. One, we need to, or a recommendation is that we should reach out, you as staff and members, the students to attend the council meeting, the city of San Diego, can be really nice for private citizens. And addressing the question to them regarding what they can do for the medication of seeing on Division Street, but that for the industry in one section. We based on what you told us potential, also potential margins, meetings, the batching, meetings. For the Mars, you know, I meetings, the batching, meetings, the board of Mars, you know, I don't know about that, but we, I don't know if they have a point. Yeah, but the point is that the focus is that by the next meeting, we will have a response from some on the city of San Diego, and addresses what they think they are prepared to follow through on with our invagations to the Hong Kong Span South. So I think we can line if we can follow up on that and come to the operation of those, I mean, it's the need to get the duration of Tabooca and quick fix for national city and get it done for city in San Diego, that there are any that needs it attention. The third thing is ask you know to study online on them again, you know, we've done it before, but the more we can get better than we can get to do. You're going to buy a chest? Well, for one or more chart later. Uh-huh. Okay. We're then to do that. Of course, we'll be in product later. Right. Okay. One more. And then, both last, so you've just, let's clarify the nature of locations. With addresses for those previously known improvements made sure that we look at some communications, as well as the list of addresses for cats that we know are issues like 394 for you, 235. The PAN, the division, the intersection of the daycare, the site, and the 24-day vision vision. I think I've emailed those three good shares in the address. You know, the guy, the one that we discussed will speak to you. It's in the email. Yeah, you have the address and I'm sure that we're all talking about the same people. Okay. Okay. So I don't want to use emotion, but we're city staff to do their own follow-up. All in the baby. I'll be motion carried. Second motion is to let's include this again as all of this is on the next meeting agenda. I'll be motion carried. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Two seconds. Okay. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. a little bit of us. Maybe I'll. Can you guys hear me? Oh, we can now. Thank you. I apologize for that. Oh, I meant to be on mute. So I do apologize. No, I'm just listening in on the meeting. Okay. Did you have any general? We've already passed the part of the agenda for public general comments, but are any general comments that you may want to know maybe? No comments at this time. No comments. Thank you so much. Thank you. So when going on to a new business, I am going to run her two or two four dash. Yeah, can I jump on the egg? Do you have an item with that? So the agenda? Negative, I don't. I just didn't always wanted to chime in on these meetings and I always tend to do other things. So I'm just listening in. Okay all right thank you thank you so we're going to do business out of the M2.2.8 pieces in the classroom and solve two parallel three minute parking spaces in front of the rear wheel cell, we're also in the final aid dress, the agency paid to replace but in the number of poor customers as they sell. Yes, worked fine. So, I'm just assuming that, so no, I'm probably just having a clue. And in some minutes, it's like, I think we'll see when you're ready. Okay, so, yes. I'm actually required to consider, as I saw, as you can see, I'm just wondering, we can going away with the teams meeting. I need to ask the team to deliver the six-year-old to the business, and stay there with the reason for that, first, is that the ownership of the department's business currently, and from the start of the years, we current meeting from the previous part of the news. We will be out in five minutes, of course, all of the week. And of course, it was a full-time party in the previous. So for the new, I can bring the issue of the party to the seven minute party. So I'll run it for the previous part of the matter around the amount of time, held in the business, and the previous one. the partner right now the time, held the business and they've been switching staff was in the side and from the location, my most 18th street, was in two basis street, two Louisville roadway, and a long shift department, double size, section, and the staff of the family, and from the big one to the city, the first here. So that all can turn, we're going to do our businesses where we have the money one, two, three, three, three, and we can have futurely funding in fact. The building, the adjacent to the business on West Hampton, there are approximately 33 feet equal to one parking space of unrestricted parking available east of the driveway looking on the north side of the property based on Western 18th Street and approximately 28 feet equal to one parking space of unrestrict to parking available west of South Laverton. So I shall be noted that for National Symbols of Code Section 11.32.190 curb markings, green curb parking zones allow for stopping, standing or parking for no longer than 15 or 30 minutes as marked our sign. The parking restriction is valid in 10 between 7 a.m. and 6 p.m., any day except Sundays and holidays, unless otherwise indicated on post-it signage. So, staff recommendation. Based on evaluation of existing conditions, staff recommends the installation of two parallel 30-minute emergency pictures on the south side of West 18th Street and front the south side of West 18th Street and front of one-way West 18th Street in order to increase by internal or for customers. For the question, we see final Google, staff recommends requiring the resident to pay for the work performed by other works since it will benefit the single business. Great. And there are some side pictures. I'm proposed. Yeah. And you may have said this on the just to hear it was their interaction with any of the neighbors. Anyone in favor of opposed? We've been notified all the most of the businesses around. And yeah, nobody. We didn't see many people that he makes a twice and didn't come today. Yeah this one is an empty warehouse basically this is yeah this empty the regional business here this is purchasing this lot because we have issues with the high tide. Right. And basically, the parking is going to be one parking space here. And here looks like you can fit you, but you cannot fit you. It's going to be all one parking. Certainly. 30-30-30? Yeah, 33 because the minimum is to be 36 to have two partners. OK. So yeah, usually you can see two vehicles, but it's very tight on them. OK. OK. OK. Let's open it up for a staff discussion. Anyone have any questions behind that? As you go over here behind the circle, it, here. I'm not there is a known occur. There is no gather, you can see here. There is no gather. You can gather, curve, and gather. You see here there is a curve and gather. Here is no gather. I was going to ask our engineers, oh, we can remove this red. The problem is, if we remove the red, they will start having people sparking here with that a cutter, it's going to deteriorate the side, the, the, you know, where the guy is supposed to be because looks like he's just dirt. I don't know why there is no color because usually you see most of the papers because they're packed on the because our partner, the gather and here there is a knob. I could be that before it was used the facility before this was here. Yeah, it was a well-being store. Yeah, basically it was using this area, well, probably was using the access, but I don't have any information why it was right. Because it could help a living area. I know, I know the problem is the issues is now this, if we start having vehicle parked on, on, over there without a gather, it's good to destroy the, the side road, it's good to destroy this, you know, it's going to... The shoulder? Yeah, the shoulder. And after we have issues with the road. You know what I mean? Really? Thank you. Yeah, we think you need to have a... You need to have a concrete... You need to have a concrete... It's a start. There is no concrete... It's dirt. It's continuing. If people are going to park here, they're going to destroy. asphalt. It's going to be a problem. Because it's not asphalt. It's just dirt. That is the only thing. In order to park here, we need to have some concrete showed there. But other than that, I know that when we were at the site visit, that's why my question was to the board of the record, but I, unfortunately, they had that kind of issue. And the other discussion going this. Okay, I have one question. So 18th Street, I think, is where there's a big project in the works potentially the US clean fuels, USG clean fuels. Is that anywhere near this site? Or is it farther down? I think it's right by where the railroad tracks cross. So that might be further down. There's an application and product. Progress to have a fuel depot. The transfer depot, USDG, I think it's a clean fuels company. We have the Charlies here, the trolley and the track. That's even just for trolley, this is for the train. Yeah the train right here is it's 18th where the next to the train on the west side of the highway I will find. Yeah so it's where the 18th basically that ends at the at the yeah right there that's where the fuel site is expected to be so this is pretty far from that one. Yeah, that's these one. Okay, we have there. Okay. Okay, so my iron is thinking, what do you think about addressing the red curve? Should we leave that out of the equation since the customer is gonna be paying potentially for this? And putting fixing the red curve would increase the cost of the project, right? The problem is, you know, on the front edge of the business, that is going to be a city funding to represent to fix the, it needs to be public works, that needs to be done. So we should probably leave that in there here. Yeah, the problem here we have like I was mentioned to you here when we went there, I don't know if you can see from the images. No, there was a water. There was a water. Yeah, that area was impacted during the once and last year. It's yeah, it's flooded, but I don't know whatever. If we can ask for reports to fix, I'm not sure. But I know that the city just purchased this aid and this burning, we're going to have increased this wetland. So that, basically, it could be that this aid is going to be passed over the project. This is going to be already developed this and going to remove the burning, make this wider, so that we don't have that during the high tide of the water that's going to impact the streets. Okay, so unless you feel strongly about recommending any follow-up with public works on the red curve? I was just most curious. Yeah. And then I don't see many residents there, right? This is all Moopies commercial. Yeah. Okay. The problem here, we have so many businesses. One business here, you have, there are multiple, even if they have angled parking here, you have employees, you have, this is very old, this is very dangerous, it's very dental businesses. Now, which is mostly, let's just say there was an apartment complex, a different store, yeah, it's not a part of it. That makes sense to you. You go to here to have a part in these more for sales. Yeah. Yeah, you see here how we see these rules. No, I guess you can see here. I mean, like he mentioned, once you're underway with that project. I'll probably notice the same thing in question. Okay, so then motion to approve staff's recommendation for this work to be completed subject to follow up with Mr. Garcia about payment. Any second? Any second? Okay, sorry, who was second? Okay, we have a different break. And yeah, okay. Okay. Sorry, who was second? Okay. Okay. Thank you. Motion carried unanimously. Okay. Second item number 2024-09 under new business. This is requesting installation of one parallel white curve passenger moving zone in front of bea stay care at 204 division street to provide parking for customers. The request is from Kelly Piper and from Lord Bella. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to make a comment on that. I'm not going to I provide information on that. So, okay. And she's obviously not here, but what were your findings? So I can go through the report. It's kind of brief, but last one. So, Ms. Kelly Pipeland, of the Triathlon Safety Committee, expressed concerns with the lack of safe pedestrian crossings on the ministry. She stated there's a daycare on the ministry and what the name of the daycare, where parents cross the ministry should drop off and pick up their kids. And because there's no crosswalk on the ministry by the daycare, stop this visit to the site and spoke with Ms. Mabaya Magaña, owner of the daycare. To the term she was interested in the installation of a passenger loading, building zone in front of the daycare. And just some information on that passenger loading zones are indicated by white curves and have a time limit that should not exceed three minutes for the National Civil Municipal Code. Section 090.3218D and 11.32119A3. Miss Malayna stated that most of the parents who drop off on pick up their kids, partner vehicles along Canada Drive, which is next to the daycare on Westside. She confirmed parents rarely rarely trusted in the stream due to the lack of available parking and finishing crosswalk. Ms. Maria also stated that the unrestricted parking space located in the Daker is frequently occupied by vehicles. She believes that the installation of a passenger lodges on in front of the Daker will make it easier and safer, especially when the multiple parents drop it easier and safer, especially when they're on multiple price drop and off and checking up their kids. So there's some type of that. Yeah, I see. S-T-R-E-E-T-K. Yeah, it's the safely drop off of your kids. And status of the site and confirm the location of the daycare. It's in the residential area. The section of the business tree adjacent to the property is a two-way collective road with parking on both sides of the street and a business speed limit at the 30-month per hour. The chemistry, which is next in the daycare, is a one-way residential road with parking on one side. Staff confirmed that the daycare has a driveway with the close game. And as business owners are 6am to 5.30pm Monday through Friday. And similar to the previous item, if the request receives final approval, staff requires a resident to pay for the work performed by public works since it will benefit and some will business change in the game. That was also indicated to the business owner. Thank you. So lastly, step recommendation, separate comments, installation of one, three minute per day, a white curb passenger loading zone, implement a balance daycare for the hours of 7 30 to 8 30 a.m. And three p.m. to 5 p.m. Monday to 5. Great. Any stout discussion? So obviously any time other than those mentioned, people can partner. Yeah, it will be limited to those times and those dates. And I must say we now have to be posted. those times and those dates. And I'm assuming that'll be posted. Yeah, that's going to be a sign from, it'll say like passenger loading and then the times, and midday, so it's too far-staring those, how else? And that's enforced by you. I'm happy. I'm happy. Lucky that is me. OK. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. correct so I still have a corn dog. Yes, I have. They just just never invite me. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thanks for checking out. No problem. That's real. Okay. How's the parking situation over there? It is getting worse but nobody wants to be cut that pocket area that I was so many had. So because that pocket area has so many handpacks, we said handpacks. Whoever's car, that was, they didn't know about it. It stayed there for about three or four days. So, nobody picks up the damages. So you had damage all over the road and the cost never picked that. So people were like running all over it. So people are scared of the park there're now but it's not good it's definitely not good I mean the most Thomas Johnson's house you know that's a very important and not everybody has that so now that's it's dangerous to park there is it is it wise to let people pull up their hair to drop out their kids? Oh, it's extreme. So what I find interesting is how she said most people don't cross the street because when I was talking to her, there were parents waiting at cars with their kids crossing the street. To go to her daycare. How many of these conversations were saying what dangerous it was? And there is a daycare. How many conversations were saying what dangerous it was and there is a daycare across on the other side. I sent it in the email and said often what the address was. Okay, so I would check it. So I mean, the picture of the other daycare includes their hours in that name. Okay. I will check that. So, it's in San Diego with the nation. It's right across from this one. It's down in San Diego. This one is, yeah. But even when they're going to have to talk about the national city or the city of San Diego. No, actually, you can't really talk to, you know, because here is very weird coverings. I don't know if this is real. Because we see division street here become this property line should have probably done in between. Usually this property line should be in the middle of the road. But it's right there to be a house. But I don't know what's happening here. Yes, so the other day here is much of a lot. Is here? Or is here? I think one, it has a type of particular road. Yes, they're naked or small, so they're wild. It's here or it's here. It has a type of a group of them. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, this is the order they care about. Just if I'm a... Okay, we would check that. I would go there and check that. It's fine. Also, on parrots of voting, you would have to step on. Really quick, just there. Okay. step already, I'm just saying about the parent dropping up my kid there. I've pulled into the canis, can't drive, that's what I do. Yeah, that's what she said. She said, no one parked across the road since the helps, she said most of the people that the kids are from a military. And they start dropping off kids in a different time over the day. And mostly they use Kenna's rights. But she said that she, she said that having another parking front over the day, can be helping kids that are multiple drop-off or pickups that is happening at the same time. And that's why she said that she appreciate us to go and reach out to her, she mentioned about you. And yeah, and that's what she said. But yeah, most of the day, you can drive. Why don't we put it in there? The problem with can drive. What do we put it in there? The problem with can drive, but I very okay. You can see here it's very weird doesn't see here there's no parking on one side and parking on the other side probably is I don't know, probably means a that's it. Well, it's going to have to be a sign but like on my little alleyway street which it's actually not out of its history just like this but yeah we have no parking spot on the parking site because we can't fit. Too quite too far. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm just saying that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Traffic accidents that she's she mentions. Why would you want to pull out a kid, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't go in that. You know, all that kind of details, but you think she's the one that requested in the front. When we went there, she said she doesn't see a problem. She said most of the people that come pick up a chop off the go on camera tried. don't park on the other side of the road across the road the one across the road. If of course if they probably they have a parking available here they will park on site because it's easier for pick up and chop off but like you know mentioned before if we are worried that you know say for 50 just you don't need to yeah you know no that is a good good point good point for me is yeah when I went to talk to her and walk the side and talk about that. A lot of people come at the same time to get their kids. So it's not like one person's fine, it's not a lot of people come. Before we're active work and those times are here. Yeah, and you can see that she has actually she has even partying on the bed, or the house that you've seen there. She wants to, yeah, she receives it all to her priority. She should be a property. Yes, I'm saying this one. Yeah, this is all a property, the property ends by the next house. Sort of on that, please. Yes, basically she has the part came here in case, I don't know how to choose. We didn't check this. Like we went inside. 19 to save this right? Yeah, yeah. I don't know if she used for the case to afford outside outdoor activities. I'm not sure, but. Yeah, makes sense. What you are saying. Hemingapakim from over there could be a problem for Hitaran since they had the kind of program. Yeah, I have a, would it be possible for us to consider tabling this item for the next meeting? And in the meantime, if we could determine whether a the parallel curve could be on the canna canna drive side where parking is allowed on that side instead of in the front, I think that might better meet the need of safety and drop off and really encourage people to go down and can drive and towards other parking options on that side with their as their people to see that they can be encouraging people to we can mark like the the side of the road white where they can park yeah and posting a sign over there with the sign. I also think that there should be consideration given to a no working sign on the other side there. On the other side to working sign on the other side there on the other side to in connection with us because if that is going to be a learning zone we want to make sure that we're you know something that's going to be on the line? Ah, I don't know if it's it. No, that's a look like. Yeah. That look like on the program feeding. For three. Maybe. Yeah, it's not very. Usually this one, my understanding was used to be a highly. The problem is, being highly, we have an a declaration that no car can park on a Harley. But since we ran the pass, I don't know, 20 years ago, they have this complaint. The discadre was a little wider, they made a name. But you're supposed to be a Harley. But you know, very unusual. but you're supposed to be on a lake, but you know, very unnatural, it's going to be the same. We came to allow for parking to spread the construction. Correct, yeah. Basically, from the head problem with parking, that's why they made a name and that's all that we, we don't consider as an alley, but like a road, they can otherwise parking on the one side of the road. Well, it's only for one hour my makeup Friday in the morning and it's only for two hours when they do the makeup. So, otherwise it's free and it's open for anyone because it's such that everybody's coming up at the same time to pick up their kids and that all the way is full. Even now, we know where it's apart. Now you really do have cross-st street. Yeah. No, that's why I'm saying have the white, the living zone in the alley. Yeah, you can see that if we consider to put on the side, we can pull all these because it's the side of the house, right? A loading zone is going to be multiple, let's see. So the shoe was working again. What if somebody could fit there? It's going to be too hard to make the party. It's going to be the same what happens in the front. Right. Yeah, let's what I was talking about. For that. It'd be the same thing. It's just a different location. Just around the corner instead of in the front. Not the same idea. You're going to give her one spot in the front. Maybe you can do two on the side. Possibly. I'm just saying because it seems to be bigger on the side. Yeah, it means four cuts. But we need to say that these are adjacent to two properties. I think we need more staff consideration of the options here. We need to vote on that. But I know I wouldn't be in favor of voting them on a approval of the existing staff recommendation because we're like encouraging people to go into unloading kids in a zone that we've spent you know 40 minutes talking about all the safety issues and that location. So yeah, I think you raised some really valid. So you need to on this. She wants to. She, she, she has to remove herself. I actually can't participate. Okay. She actually used to step on. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to table. We're going to table it. Yeah. So the voting is okay. The motion is, I'm motioning that we table this item for very forward as all business at the next meeting with in the intervening time staffed as further investigation regarding the options for loading zone on Cano Street, just research, investigation, and figuring out whether that investigation changes their recommendation for this item. So we'll have a report back on on next meeting as to what's whether it's the same recommendation or there's a revised recommendation. Motion. recommendation or there is a revised recommendation motion. Yes, so that's my motion. Thank you all in favor. I motion carried you in. I'll abstention for legal reasons. That's required. There it is. Okay item number three, 2024-10 is request to install two carol 30 minute parking spaces in front of the fire force and safety business located at one two three. Roosevelt Avenue to increase parking turnover for customers. It was requested by Carol, our reader. The compost, Mr. Compost is not here, obviously. Is there a staff report with this location? Yes, thank you. Thank you. I'll look at that now. So as mentioned, Mr. Hidal compost is the owner of Fire Force and Safety which is looking at a 123 rows of the Avenue. That's not a major address. If you requested the installation of two limited parking spaces in front of the business, Mr. Gumpos stated that the unrestricted parking space is currently looking at the property, our frequently occupied vehicles all day and customers have trouble finding parking near his business. So according to Mr. Gump, the conversion of the unrestricted parking to a 30 minute parking will provide customers at the time to shout out to the business and increase their internal rental customers. So that's similar to, first item, the first item to the great line. And again, step, this is a website and from the business location, Roseville Avenue, just some background, Roseville Avenue is a two-year railway with parallel unrest and restricted parking on the east side of the street and restricted, no stopping anytime on the west side of the street. So only parking on one side of Roosevelt. Staff confirmed that the commercial building where the business is located does not offer off-street customer parking and that the off-street parking is heavily impacted. In front of the business on Roosevelt Avenue, there are approximately 36 feet equal to two parking spaces of one or three parking available. I request to double this for the next meeting. The issues here, I don't know if you are familiar with what's happening to our rules. Roosevelt, there is a possibility of the possibility of the possibility and the actions to increase visibility and otherwise an insurance enforcement of. Yeah, basically they put on the one side of the Roosevelt Street and not stop it anytime because for a public defender that happened during in the past basically this is the, the trucks being parked there were blocking visibility for us to cry and send. Yes, yes, that's why what happened here is that now we are testing to allow vehicles to park on the, that's why we're there to request. Okay. allow vehicles to park on the, that's why we did see different ways. Okay, different ways after we installed, no, no standing anytime on the west side of Blooseberg. What happened is now we're allowing to go on this section where the business is to park along Blooseberg. And he basically called us, and let us know that if we're allowing vehicles to park on the other side of the roadside, these are questions cannot be needed anymore. The only thing is, if we can table for the next time, this is just a phone call that we'll be seeing before the meeting. Okay. Okay. So, my name is Adam. Yeah. I need to observe for the next month or whatever. Yeah. I can provide an update. How does improved situation be? Could be that the next time is going to be an item or if not, it's going to be on the meeting agenda like a for the staff updates on this. Okay, my motion, I'm going to motion that we table this item for consideration at our next meeting. Any second? All right. Our favorite. Hi, Kerry, unanimously. Thank you for that. Okay, item number four on the agenda item two, oh to four dash 11. This is a request to install red curb, a no curve zone at the intersection of Harvest and Avenue and East Street to enhance visibility at the intersection as requested by Perl, can you on this? No relation? She's can you on us with an S on can you on us with the Z that maybe for us, I don't know, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, basically, we should have to are having here is the intersection is that it'sth Harbingsund. We went on site, the issues is, you know, you can see this in many intersections. In this one, particularly because you have two ports, power ports, that are located on both sides of the intersections. And really, when you have cars parked, there's no record, but sometimes I can see that when vehicles are parked, because they're in the section, in addition to the power port, really the visibility is impacted for both sides of the whole side of the intersection. be a little bit of satisfaction. And the same things on this other side is a better visibility, but still if we're improving one side, we would try to put the both intersections. There is an existing five-adherence here that provide a 16 feet and things over our record. 50, but what we are requesting now since the six feet that are divided per hour So, basically, we, the kind of a, a bound of record for this bill that we, that you should recommend is, sorry. Okay. Okay. 12 minutes. Yes. Okay. This is 26. When we go there, you know, we really don't want to remove as many parking. They're very reduced by traffic parking in practice, much as possible. It's 26 because we counted that, they can fit here to be able to, that's why initial recommendation was so defeated, but we reduced to 26 just for having a parking on this side, and basically, and 20 feet on the other side. And Dr. X, 6, 3 tonne. Westbound is going to be 20 feet on one side and adding 15 to the existing 15 to the 2nd or 3rd day. And basically each location is going to be one parking spaces lost and this is going to be $1.04 parking spaces. And here you have the falls of the center section. Do we think the impact of parking space loss or parking spaces is going to? Yeah, we're going to eliminate, if we're going to eliminate four parking spaces is going to. Yeah, very good to eliminate. If you're going to eliminate for parking spaces. Well, create undo hardship on the neighborhood, you think, based on the volume, of course. Oh, when we went there, you can see even from this image. It's pretty white. There is plenty of parking for the parking. It's more impacted. You know, that's, but, for me, for me, is more impacted. That's, but we try just to maximize, we'll add in, try to enhance the intersection. After, of course, if we still see issues, we will need to table again to add the journal record in case, you know, this kind of enhancement doesn't go into hand. But usually, it's totally, yeah, usually, yeah, we do that. Yeah, should be should be working. It should be fine. So anyone looking to know city, should look there. Maybe we can highlight that. Any member discussion? most of those houses. Okay. Okay. Up street parking. Yeah. And basically I notified at least 10 people, 10 houses. How's the first season? The one, the first season, the four houses, the Easter owners after the houses that are impacting, you know, exiting just nobody came. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm really glad you did the 26 feet on that one side to keep it from being five spaces lost. That was a good idea. Yeah, I know that you're supplying a parking in the roads. That's why. Any other comments? I'm going to accept staff recommendations for the different, the four different measurements of the through at that intersection. Sorry. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Okay. So, Okay. Okay. All the baby. I motion carried unanimously. Okay. Really challenging. Next agenda item. We need a vice chairperson. Oh, yeah. Sure. Thank you. That's a good word for it. Yeah. Yeah. I was in a way that needed advice so I was like, oh, I didn't let to know if they needed anything from here. They said no. Okay, great. So they just recorded that. Thank you. There were ways for advice. I haven't any any involuntary volunteers? We've won. Kelly, can you hold for you for Kelly to be my chair? I was sure we were killing. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. All the same. Not as stuff as I thought. Okay. Thank you Kelly. Okay. I would have said this. I don't know. Yeah. This is our annual report date selection. So staff is going to give us some dates for the committee to present our annual report to the city council meeting. So what are those recommended dates? I'm not actually waiting to hear about them now because they've been taking up some that to give me a couple of their agenda lately. They have. Or in the next meeting, I'll provide them. Okay. And I said come generic or vintage. Perfect. So we're going to carry forward this agenda to all business on our next meeting. We have the focus. Oh, yes. The purpose of that is, um, basically, right. Okay. So you just have to present your past year of competition, which accomplishments and goals for the upcoming year. Great. And it has to be a small presentation on five minutes. That's super easy. The one thing I would request is if we can kind of get a wide number of wide items for the number of like number of action items that we've done in service of national city residents. And then the number of calendars. Just past year. So it would be this calendar year. I can tell what you're going to have. Yeah, should be from the last report. And I think we did a report. I think there was a report and a. To work. You need my city. I think. Where's it? We're not. No, this is. Okay. Okay. Maybe I'm just thinking about our committees that are reported. If calendar year. Yeah, and then if we could just or physical. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's for you. Okay. Number of residents. Items that we've approved to serve them and then for businesses. I don't know if you can break that down. No, but I believe they are. Oh, it's our chat. I believe it. I believe they are. Or it's our time. I believe it's the time. Double check on that. Yeah, please. Okay, great. And I know I would welcome as many attend as much attendance as possible. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Just like when we have a meeting, you know, you can use the time to make sure that everyone knows. When you got the money, you are, yeah, yeah, okay. Very cool. I think this is good. Next year, why? I didn't even do the day, try it. When they would be done Tuesday. They even said Tuesdays, but then they were provided. They would send us an updated email. So they were taken already. So it asked for a new date. Because there's a far-fetched. I think there's a few dates when it's there as well. There's a couple, but I think it's very limited. And then we only have to do more counsel on each. And then we go on for a month. Yeah, that's it would be easier. Yeah. Correct. That makes sense. And the beginning of the year. Yeah. And I think it would be help. I don't know if it's possible to request this. But if it was on a calendar year, I think that that would probably be helpful. OK. So if we kind of got into the habit of doing like every January or every February update. I think that that would be make things easy. And probably not January because sometimes their first meeting of the year ends up being 50-round. So maybe if we can turn the direct towards either February, the first February meeting or the next available meeting after. Okay. Thank you. Hello. Okay, and then we have our staff reports. Oh, excuse me, no items that anybody wants us to add to future to the future agenda other than the ones we've already kind of pushed forward. So we're on to staff reports on the bylaw update. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, we just, you know, like we mentioned last time, we were going to play to the bylaw to watch that. Yeah, three items that we discussed during the. Yeah, I got the second last meeting. Basically, where we did the other issue. You have the second page. the second page is it? Yeah, in general. Right. That's the only thing that's just been updated. We can table next time, or you can. Great. This is based on the new rule from the chart arrow. That's the table meaning. Okay, it will mean it. Since we've already pushed a number of items, if everybody could take a moment to review 678 under section number three, it's the top of the page two of eight. And if we could vote that those are the only changes, right? Yes. Okay. Those are the only changes, right? Yes, correct. So the item six is for monitoring progress on implementation of projects identified in our new local roadways, 33-flam, including a report of project status, funding or completion. Seems reasonable for us to do that. Monitoring crash data, this is item seven. Monitoring crash data, this is item seven, monitoring crash data including crash rates, changes over time, or before and after analysis of safety project implementation site. Sounds like what we're already doing on division three, so that seems pretty reasonable to me anyway. And number eight is reporting key findings to city council, which seems reasonable for us to do to me. Okay, so I would vote recommend that we, my motion is to approve the revisions to the bylaws as suggested by staff. Second. All in favor? Right. Bylaw update approved. Okay. The next item has to do with the updates that we got from Mr. Ted Godchock. His comments regarding the known truck parking sign that council approved on December 5th. Does staff have a report on what happened to that? We don't have a report basically what happened is we send a work order like we do for public courts and the all-corder was never executed. Okay. Basically Ted came during the previous last meeting and he expressed the reason yeah, I was asking for me why it was never implemented at the request. Basically, you know, after the meeting, he came with public work they started the signage after the charity 60 approval. So is he aware? Is Ted aware now? I thought maybe he's right there, but I know he never will, we never notify him about that. Okay. Would it be possible to just notify him that the work order was not executed and that was followed with public work? Yeah, we have information for that for you. Okay. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we, I don't think we need to take any action on this. No, it's a child yet. Yeah, we start for a port as there was not enough comments. You know, we, there was nothing where we were to put in a report, but it's a different report on that. Okay. And the item number three, the local road safety plan monthly updates. Yeah, we're going to start with going this monthly updates. I probably, it's not the right title. The thing is I want to bring it up during the, at around the second last meeting. Right. We analyze the, the installation of the vegan on eight streets. Right. Basically, I want to let you know that we sum it the grand application, this is the grand application that we submit for H-Tip. We're going to find out in the next couple months if we're going to receive the grants. The changes before was to the installation of the vegan, just be going for intersection. But on the other end, we're going to add the total of 12 big guns. Basically, each intersection is going to have, but I don't know if you remember, you remember, but, sorry, let's go back. Let's move back. This is what the first was. Because I apologize. This is what A Street, I don't remember who's here during the meeting. Basically, we were A Street and A, A Street and B, A Street and C. Basically, there was a report to my staff that there were issues for crossing the roads, basically for high volume of traffic and they would receive the same issues for pedestrians. Basically, initially, the, what we were proposing is to put the begin. Basically, the begin is a few, I don't remember which shape I want to show you. One that we implemented recently is going to be different. It's not going to be as intense as the one on the swivel road. It's true. Let's see if we just have to. It's not this one. Just want to know what it is. Okay, this is the old image. Okay, so it's not here. Who was in the middle? Okay, you all know that. Yeah, sorry, that's why you look at me. It's because you're not thinkin' out of the building. That was the one you messed. Yeah, that was okay. Um, yeah, that's it. But if you're pretty, you can... To help with the pedestrian. Okay. Safety, yeah. Yeah. That's what's going to be a personal experience. And the one that you just showed right now is the big water area. It's going to be in their territory. I would be there. There's a show on the left. Yeah, it's not updated. It was just an answer. Oh, yeah, last week. Oh, very good. Well, and that day, but when you just show right now, about the 7-11 on sweet, yeah, three-water, I think. Oh, huh. So, yeah, that's right. That's right, by the the material. We can go, I think. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. See you. Really? Yeah, I need to check the report. Yeah, it's okay. That's just a little bit of the great application and where we're going to add. This is the, this is the item very quick. Initially, you see. Yeah. This is the kind of implementation we were suggesting before having the, at the beginning, the whole bigger, but it's the rapid, the rectangular, flashing, bigger. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. If you go to the calendar in the National City website and click on the agenda, you might find the, okay. If you're looking for the vegan. Yeah, yeah, basically, the end application is to add these more than the twin-terfaction, 8A, 8MB, and 8MC. The only difference from this is here initially was going to put a bigger just one side have a signage on this other side but after we would basically from the right the way we were going to have the bigger thing for bigger for intersection replacing the signage with the bigger because that is the standard practices to even if you go to St. Diego, you still have each interfaces. I don't see it in the lot like a North Park here. Yeah, on Megan. That is going to be an application. We should receive in the next couple of months, we should have were going to receive a notification for going together or not to the grant for implementing this kind of signage. And the grant is coming from which? It's for customers.? If for patterns. OK, OK, great. Yeah. That is the first update. And another update that I want to know, feel for no release from the beginning. So next couple of months that are probably be 2025 before we have update, right? It could be that we we should have the neck. I need to check when the work will go into those of bias. Could be that next month we should, I don't know, but I soon know we need this notification. Okay, great. So there's Yeah, it's so new. We received the grant. We, yeah, we put on a agenda like an item, but we're notified that people that work. Great. Oh, no, they so happy. That is not another thing that is happening is since for the responsibility for the community members, we're going to provide a presentation. Hopefully next, during next meeting, we will be working one of the projects at this under design, adding the bike lane at the Charlottes station 24th Street. And that is going to tables for next time. We'll see if we'll be able to provide, finalize the preliminary design so that we can discuss the model approach. This is a bus, if this is a new bike lane around the 24-3. That's great. Okay, let's, let's, so those are updates. Let's just not, I don't know if I need to call like alerts the updates because it's not like, uh, but, um, you see how it makes my mind. We'll see how that goes. Okay. Thank you for that. Any other, any, any, any member questions about the updates for the local roads safety Okay, thank you. That's really good work Motion to any other committee member discussion. Okay, motion to adjourn today's meeting that's 231. All right. All right. All in favor. Sorry. Past. I think that he has shoes of how to walk out of home. Is Miguel show in the waiting room? Miguel, are you still in our waiting room? Yes, I still am. Thank you. I still will say, okay, that's not waiting. Thank you for hearing that. Do you have any questions or comments for us? But, are there this waiting room? I know, no, thank you guys for having me. It's been a pleasure listening in. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been trying to at least be more active or more involved in these meetings. So, Boarding Race in National City, what was raised on McKinley Street. So, it's definitely a pleasure to start being involved in listening to you guys. Well, thank you so much for being here. Our meeting has beenned at this point and we hope that to see you virtually again. Not a person. Thank you. Thank you guys for your time. Take care. You too. Thank you.