Good evening Rockwell. Today is Wednesday, March 12, 2025. This is meeting number 03-25 of the City Rockwell Planning Commission. I am Jamie Espinoza, chair of the Planning Commission. I am joined by Commissioner Susan Pittman, Commissioner Eric Fulton and Commissioner Monkson. Tonight's meeting is being conducted in person and virtually by WebEx. Tonight's agenda includes briefing on project plan amendment PJT 2020-00020. One review and action item, which includes final record applications PLT 2025-00637 PLT 2025-00628 PLT 2025-00629 and PLT 2025-00630 and that will be followed by a recommendation to the mayor and council on zoning tax amendment TXT 2025-00269 and we will conclude with our regularly scheduled commission items. So, to our first agenda item, which is briefing on Project Plan Amendment PJT 2025-00020, an application to amend the Plan Development for Rockville Center, incorporated to permit a residential conversion of 13,000 11 square feet of previously approved street level commercial retail space into 13 dwelling units at 198 East Montgomery Avenue in the PD-RCI Plan Development Rockville Center, incorporated zone, Comstocked 33 Monroe LC applicants over to Mr. Wasillac for a staff presentation. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the commission. This is a briefing as part of the PD amendment process that is currently required. This item will come back to you for recommendation and a later date. This is an opportunity for you to learn about the project plan amendment and ask questions as necessary. And without further ado, I'm going to turn it over to Christopher Davis to make the staff presentation. And of course the applicant is present here as well. Thank you, Mr. Osleg. Good evening, Mr. Chair and members of the commission for the record Christopher Davis with community planning and development services. As Mr. Rossillac indicated, this is a briefing for a project plan amendment application, PJT 2025, 0, 0, 0, 2, 0. And it's for the Boulevard law at 198 East Montgomery Avenue. So again, the purpose is for the introduction of the proposal to the Planning Commission and specifically for the applicant to provide you with information on the project and to allow you for preliminary feedback and comments on the proposal. So here's the project site outlined and read on the screen. It is 198 East Montgomery Avenue located in a planning area one and corresponding with the town center. The site area is approximately 1.41 acres and the land use designation for the site is commercial and residential mix. The zoning corresponds to the plan development for the Rockville Center, incorporated and has a equivalent zone of mixed use transit district zone. As you can see, the site is fully developed with a mixed use building with both residential and commercial uses. The applicant proposes to modify previously approved commercial space into residential units as further detailed. So as you can see the proposed plan on the screen, 13,000 and 11 square feet of street level commercial space is currently vacant and the applicant proposes to transform that space into 13 residential loft units at the ground level. As you can see, the units will be located on three sides of the building with several units along the west side facing Helen Hennegenway, most of the units facing east middle lane to the north, and several other units to the east along Monroe Street. 6,500 square feet of existing commercial space will remain along East Montgomery Avenue to continue the commercial establishments along that side of the street. To move forward with this change in use and additional residential units, the applicant proposes an amendment to the plan development for the Rockville Center incorporated plan development zone. So moving forward, the required application review processes have taken place and will continue beginning with the pre-application area meeting or known as the PAM, which was filed back in November of 2021. The corresponding area meeting was held on December 9, 2021. The applicant has then filed the project plan amendment application that's before you back in January of this year. The post-application area meeting has also been held in February as well as an applicant DRC meeting. That same month, the DRC meeting is held for the applicant to receive initial staff feedback on the application and will make future recent medals to those comments provided. As well, the Mayor and Council will be briefed on this project at their meeting scheduled for April 7th, 2025. So the following next steps shall occur before the application can be decided on. Again, the Mayor and Council will be briefed on the project. The applicant will then be able to receive that feedback and make any necessary modifications to the project. The project will then come back to you as to the planning commission for a public hearing and recommendation on the project plan application before proceeding back to mayor and council for both the public hearing, discussion and instruction and possible adoption.. Following that process, the Planning Commission will also be able to consider a decision on a site plan application, which has also been filed for this project and is currently under review. And with that, that concludes staff's presentation. Staff would like to know if the applicant does have a presentation for the commission, but happy to answer any questions you have. Thank you. Any other commissioners have questions of staff at this time? Nope. Does the applicant have a presentation? So while I was doing that, I will introduce myself. I'm Nancy Reglin. I'm an attorney at the Law Frame of Shulman Rogers. I'm Land Use Counsel to the Applicant. With me tonight is the representative from the Applicant, which is Rick Beerbauer, Vice President at Comstock. And in the audience and also online are some of our consultants. So if there's any questions we do have our consultants here or professionals here for any questions. You've given a lot of information which hopefully you've read. You've now seen the staff presentation. So my presentation I'm going to run through and try to just provide you some color and context for this briefing. So hopefully that will be helpful. Alright, so next slide. So obviously the star is the location. It is one of the blocks of a five block preliminary development plan that was approved in 1994. And so it includes multiple buildings that have been built out over that time. And then this is an amendment to this building which was completed in 2022. Next slide. This is a simple request to convert the first floor commercial space on three-sided the same. We are proposing residential frontages instead of storefronts. And we are retaining the 6500 square feet on East Montgomery Avenue as commercial. Next slide please. So the simple changes of the before and after is we go from 400 units in this building to 413, minor modification, the amount of square footage, and we have the 603 parking spaces that are existing in the building that will get reallocated between the residential demand, the commercial demand, and then the 200 parking spaces that are in this parking garage that serve the general public and the Regal Roe, retail, Pavilion and the Theater. Next slide. So the question is, why a residential conversion and why now? So this building has been actively marketed by two success of owners. Dubal Rockville was the original developer. They finished the building 2022. It had been actively marketed for all of this retail space, and I can tell you I looked at a lot of different retail and commercial options for this space. And then Comstock took over the purchase of it and it's been the owner and operator of it since 2022. and they have also been actively marketing this retail space. And both of them are experienced developers and owners of successful mixed-use projects. So they're very keyed into the retail in this area and why doesn't this retail work? Why doesn't the retail work? So we all know when a building's delivered timing-wise in 2022, we were in the middle of COVID and you know that the disruption in the retail market resulted in a lot of vacancy in downtown Rockville. And what's reflective of that is even the city did a ULI Urban Land Institute, Technical Assistance Panel, to even before COVID to say, what can we revitalize our downtown Rockville, Town Square and General Town Center in order to take care of retail vacancies. And the conclusion of that report is not just a rock fill issue, but was a US issue, which is we're over-retailed. That the whole idea of having first floor retail of every building that gets built dilutes and expands where the retail is, And their recommendation was to consolidate the retail into a core area around the town square along the pedestrian spine that went from the metro along East Montgomery Avenue and down Maryland Avenue. And that actually got incorporated into the 2040 plan and the 2025 town center plan. So every day we hear good news and bad news about retail. The good news is, oh, there's something new opening that the leasing market has gotten hot again for retail. But at the same time, you're hearing all of these closures. It's a move to quality, move to better locations, move to newer locations. And this location is a cold dark shell. So any retail that wants to go into this space has to build out from zero. Whereas you can go into a restaurant space or retail space that's been vacated and your speed to occupancy is much quicker and the cost is much lower. So when Comstock looked at this they said the demand here is for apartments that are uniquely located, this approximate to transit, and with a unique typology. This allows these loft units to be constructed here. So next slide, please. This is just a look back at the ULI TAP program. A report, and you can see the map on the left is where all the retail exists and then the map on the right is what they're recommending being consolidated around the town square core and we are actually complying with this by retaining the retail along East Montgomery Avenue. Next slide please please. We're also complying with the recently adopted 2025 Rockville Town Center plan. And I would like to say like a pulp pick a line over here. A neighborhood at its core town center will be a hub within the region for sustainable, walkable, transit, oriented living. The walkability score for this building is almost 100%. And so the project does support the vision for town center. And I think tonight you'll hear of the text amendment actually does speak to not requiring retail at every first floor level. So next slide please. Just to remind everybody, this is what the view is, there's very few views into town center from Rockville Pike, and this one's down middle lane, and since 2022, this is what you've seen vacant, boarded up retail, and would like to change that. Next slide please. Same on Helen Hennegan Way. Boarded up retail. Next slide please. On Monroe Street, boarded up retail. Next slide please. So, as staff showed you, this is the existing plan, which is typical in 2016. This is how you would have designed a building with first floor retail on all four sides that had street frontage. But the fact of the matter is East Middle Lane has a bike lane and no parking along this. Helen Hennegenway has no parking adjacent to this. And Monroe Street, actually the city is considering putting a bike line and taking away the parking on Monroe Street. So let's go to the next slide. So this slide shows you in dark gray, the parts of the building on the first floor that are not being changed. And the white is the conversion to the units. So and a couple things that I want to point out to you. Since we found the project plan and would have been in your package, Comstock has evolved the plan. It's still 13 units. But now they're proposing one, one bedroom, one, three bedroom, and the remaining 11 as two bedrooms. The other thing that I'll use this for is to show you that a long middle lane, the rear of those units, there's a linear lobby for the Boulevard lofts. It has their mail room, their package, storage, their trash, receptacle, and mechanical storage, all related to the boulevard lofts. And if you also look on Helen Henigan Way, you can see all of those triangles, which I'm sure you're all familiar with, are access points from the sidewalk. So they all have direct access doors. But you can see that on Helen Henningtonway, there's also a private entrance along the rear. So each of those units also have direct sidewalk access and a private ADA access. So one of the things I want to point out because not not everyone's been around since this was approved in 1994. But this building on Helen Hennegan Way, Monroe Street and East Montgomery Avenue, the building itself is not built to the property line. There are very wide sidewalks here, but it was designed in such a way that from the building phase there would be a two foot, a storefront expansion zone so that you could have some interest with the storefronts that built out and a five foot amenity zone so that there could be expansion for other fixtures and furniture and other things. So none of these units with direct access are actually impeding on the eight-foot public sidewalk. And in fact, the applicant has done a lot of work so that all of these have at-grade sidewalk entrances except for one on Helen Henigan Way. And we'll show that to you, which has a stoop and a stair, and it's within this two foot storefront, five foot amenity zone. So it doesn't also impede. Neither does it impede on the sidewalk. So next slide. So this is Maryland, Maryland. This is middle lane. And so the street trees, the street, and then the wide sidewalk. But let's go to the next slide because I'm gonna show you what these urban frontages for the residential units look like or proposed without the street trees, but know that we're not impacting the street trees. So this is middle lane. Next slide please. This is Helen Henneganway and you can see the one stoop and stair. And next slide please. This is the unit on Monroe Avenue Avenue. Mineral street, I'm sorry. So let's go and just show you an illustrative residential loft unit. So this is off of Midalain. This is one of the two bedrooms. If you look at the plan on the left, you can see that there's a direct sidewalk entrance on the bottom of that plan. But if you go through the unit, you will see there's a foyer with an entrance into the boulevard Laf lobby. So they all have private entrances as well. And then on the second floor, which is the plan on the right, you can see that it overlooks an open living room, and then there's two bedrooms and two baths up there. So that's illustrative of a two bedroom unit. And then if we go to the next slide, please, I wanted to show you the three bedroom unit, because this is the one I'm in Nero Street, and I think it's pretty special. And so if you take a look at that, it has three bedrooms, two and a half baths. And so this is a rather unique unit in downtown Rockville and would be a unique housing choice for a very large range of sizes and types of households. And then next slide please. So as staff indicated, there's a whole process for the project plan and the site plan. Here we are at March 12th. We are hoping that we will be back before you for the recommendation on the project plan in spring of 2025. We hope then that we will back before you for the site plan in late summer of 2025 and that one year from today we're hoping for occupancy. All right, any questions that we can assist with? Just out of personal curiosity, you said the walkirm is almost 100. What's it missing? I'm just curious, because thinking of Rockville, I think it's over 95. Yeah, I'm just curious, what's missing? I don't know. I don't know what's missing because it has two access points right to the metro. Right, grocery store right there, pharmacy, library, or every errand I can think of as well then. But whatever, any of my commissioners have a question of the app. Thank you. It's dark. First, thank you for the presentation and explaining the market for the retail. I think that's very informative. And also, I appreciate the consultant team's creative solution to convert those love. I think those works really well and so my question is I have a concern on like those noise, you know, since those were ground floor living units and what kind of meditation, medication method you have for noise medication? Noise control in for leaving units? Yes, so I am assuming, I don't know if one of the architects want to address this that are on the line, but I'm assuming that the interior of each of these units are going to have to meet the interior noise standard for the county, which the city also complies with. That's great. And also you mentioned like those buildings are not built towards the property line. So I wonder like I see currently there are no buffer zone before, between the building for side and a sidewalk. I see especially for the units facing the middle lane, it's very narrow. The sidewalk is very narrow. And I wonder, are there any way that we can create some like buffer between the facade and the sidewalk? Maybe some landscape buffers or something, just give some privacy for those living units. So what you're seeing is basically the project plan, the concept. So I think we can have this discussion in detail at site plan. There is only an eight foot sidewalk on middle lane. And then the additional area is the ins and out articulation of the building. So add each of the storefronts if you really look at the floor plan. You'll see that the storefronts for the residential units are slightly inset from the building phase, but there's really only like two feet or something. So, you know, who knows whether that could be some fixtures of some plantings to give some buffering who knows. That's something I think we should all have a discussion about about what might be about appropriate. Thank you for for my protect that I would like to see some plenty of something. I agree with you commissioner Song I think we need to it seems, and I know we'll see this, again, this very preliminary, but some sort of transition between their future neighbors front door and the sidewalk, just to soften that frontage into good. And like you said, to create a sense of coming into someone's home so people will stay out of their home. You know what I mean? So it doesn't look like a storefront anymore. Thank you. We'll take that comment back, or architects are online listening. I think that's it. Yeah, I'll echo my fellow commissioners comments. I think you're, I'm glad you have the flexibility to do this with your space. And it seems like these designs make the most of the available space. I love the fact that there's a stoop, I wish there was more space for more so you had that real kind of. And a very early type feel. You know, I guess for my fellow commissioners, you know, when we talk about not wanting to look like a storefront and more inviting to that residential space. Yeah, the town center master plan that we just went through does not dictate that there'd be ground floor retail at every spot, but now we have two blocks on either side of middle lane directly from the metro into town square town center where there's no public serving space. Right? There's the choice hotel's building, there's a parking lot, there's the big tall building, and now there's this building, you only control the one, not mad at you for what you're doing. You don't control those other three parcels. So it's just something to consider, where there's a great entry point on Montgomery, where there's the pedestrian walkway and the commercial and the retail is going to be centered, but it's a very unpleasant walk, which is the most direct route from the metro into the town center. So that's just my point on that is someone who walks that frequently, but I actually wanted to ask about three bedrooms. Totally agree with you that three bedroom loft is awesome. Why did we reduce from X number to just the one? I think basically that when you evaluated, basically how to use the space that the two bedrooms seem to be the best use of those space. And so the additional three bedrooms that were potentially conceptualized in the project plan did get converted into two bedrooms. How many three bedrooms are on the rest of the property? None. So there's just the one. I think that there's probably demand for three bedroom apartments in town center, but I haven't looked at the demand enough to know, but that's just, I guess, thank you. Bariarring any other questions? Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Do any of my fellow commissioners have questions of staff based on the presentation? No. Okay. No public testimony, obviously, because this is just a briefing. So our next item is a review and action item. Final record application's PLT 2025-00627, PLT 2025-00628, PLT 2025-00629, PLT 2025-00630 for the creation of record lots, HWA Partials and Dedication of Public Rights of Way and Conformance with Project Plan PJT 2023-0015 and Level 2 Site Plan STP 2024-00473 tower preserve in the PD-T's Plan Development Tower Oak Zone at 2020 Oh tower oaks Boulevard StreetScape Partners Michael Harris Development applicant over to Mr. Wast Tower Oaks, Boulevard, StreetScape, Partners, Michael Harris, Development, Applicant. Over to Mr. Wasillag for any staff presentation. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the commission. As you stated, these are the final record plans for the Tower Preserve Project, which you have seen previously has both a project plan, plan development amendment and site plan. Principal planner Nelson Ortiz is here to make the staff presentation and the applicants are online as well. And I will swear in Mr. Ortiz. You could identify yourself for the record. And Nelson Ortiz with community planning and development services. And we provide truthful testimony. I will. Thanks. All right. So this is these are four different final record for the project tower preserve. numbers PLT 2025 0 0 6 2 7 3 0 0 6 3 0 All four plans are located within the project site located at 2000 tower of spulavoid. The total land area for this property is 6.2 acres in size. The land use designation is office, commercial and residential mix. The property is zoned plan development tower oaks and has an equivalent zone of MXE, mixed use employment. The applicant is proposing to create record lots, homeowner association parcels, and dedicate rights of ways consistent with previous approvals. So the mayor and council on October 30, 2023 approved a project plan application, PJT 2023, 0015 to create this proposed development. The development consists of 82 townhouses, open space, streets and other improvements associated with this residential development. Following the mayor and council's approval of that project plan application, the applicant submitted a level two site plan and received approval by the planning commission of the level two site plan STP 2023 00473 on July 24th 2024 that Level 2 site plan was also implementing that project plan that was approved by the Mayor and Council. The project remained the same residential 82 townhouses and associated improvements. So these are the four different plants or the four different plants are color coded but they make up this residential development. So the applicant again is proposing to re-subdivide existing parcel D block the of tower oak subdivision into 82 lots which will accommodate 82 townhouses. They're also going to be creating nine HOA parcels. The HOA parcels will be accommodating private alleyways, open and public use space, as well as storm water management facilities. And the applicant will also be dedicating three public streets that will serve, of course, the development and provide access to the proposed units. Finally, and I can't stress this enough, the proposal is the proposed final record plans will result in the implementation of those previous approvals. As far as our recommendation, we find that the final record plan applications meet the conditions of approval as defined in section 252102. There are no findings that need to be made as part of the approval of the final record plans. And we are recommending approval subject to the conditions in the staff report and that concludes my presentation. I know that the applicant is also online to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Do you have any follow-up commissioners that have questions with staff? Does the applicant have any comments they'd like to make at this time? No, sir. All right. Thank you. From Michael Harris development. Thank you. Any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? Okay. Barring anything I don't see anybody in the room. And nobody submitted any request to provide online testimony by the deadline. That was correct. Okay, so barring no discussion, does any, do I have a motion? I'll make the motion. I have motion that we approve final record plat applications, PLT2025006270062800629 and 00630 for the creation of record-lots, HOA parcels, and dedication of public rights of way. conformance with project plan PJT2023-001015 and Level 2 Site Plan STP202400473, Tower Oaks Preserve subject to any conditions in the staff packet. These are a second. I think. All those in favor, please raise your hand, say aye. Aye. Aye. That passes unanimously. Thank you. That brings us to our next item, which is recommendation to Mayor and Council. It's recommendation to Mayor and Council on the Zoning Tax Amendment TXT 2025-00269 to implement certain zoning recommendations of the town center master plan, including implementation of floating zones, mayor and council of rockville applicants to Mr. Wasillack for any staff presentation. Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the commission. This is a zoning text amendment that was authorized by the Mayor and Council on February 24th to implement in part zoning recommendations from the adopted town center master plan What we'd like to present for you this evening a little bit of background on the ZTA the text of the ZTA and its connection with city goals and initiatives and just a refresher on the text amendment process and our recommendation. As I noted the town center master plan was adopted on January 27th of this year with some specific zoning recommendations. The mayor and council are very positive about moving forward with some of those zoning recommendations. And so directed staff to come back to them with a proposed zoning textile amendment to do that. What this zoning textile amendment does essentially is to add to the floating zone scheme that was previously adopted by the mayor and council in a court in association with the Ruckville 2040 plan. This adds three floating zones that would be implemented in the town center planning area representing the three character areas that were ultimately adopted in the town center plan. And just like the Ruckville 2040 floating zones, this allows developments to move forward sooner than our Zora process so they can implement the plan through an actual project. So the optional map amendment process follows that process that was established in 2023. Established is three new floating zones in addition to the six that were previously established. These correspond to the character areas within the town center planning area. And those are the Maryland 355 corridor, which would have a floating zone known as corridor FZ. A core character area, which would have a CCA, floating zone, and then an edge character area, which would have an ECA floating zone. The primary difference among the three different character areas is the actual height, which you can see there is a base height in the 355 corridor character area and the corresponding floating zone of 235 feet maximum with a potential bonus height of 100 feet. In the core, the base height is 200 feet with 100 foot potential bonus. And in the edge character area, there is a base height of 85 feet with a potential bonus height of 50 feet. Now, the bonuses correspond with providing additional moderately priced dwelling units beyond what the city normally requires. That is kind of the key components of the proposed ETA. There are also a couple of others. And that includes for those projects that come forward under the ZTA to eliminate the minimum mastery parking requirements within the town center playing area. however require the accessible spaces to be provided and also eliminates the requirement for grant floor retail in the town center planning area as you heard from is regular on the prior item. So there's a direct connection with the town center master Plan as it was adopted by the Mayor and Council. The floating zone base heights come from land use action 1.1.1. The bonus heights from 1.1.2, the elimination of parking requirements from 2.1.1 and the elimination of ground floor retail requirements also from land use action 1.1.1. And of course there's also a connection with city goals and initiatives related to economic development, housing production and affordability. The Townsender Plan does have a goal of 3,000 new housing units within the planning area. And of course, it relates to the Climate Action Plan adopted by the Mayor and Council. Just as a refresher on the text amendment process, the Mayor and Council authorize the filing of the ZTA in February and refer to you for recommendation. As you can see, it's on a very accelerated timeline from what we would normally have for a ZTA and they're actually scheduled the public hearing for the mayor and council on March 24th with actual potential action that evening. So tonight we asked you to make a recommendation. There won't be a kind of a two-step process where you have a briefing and then recommendation. But we do have Ms. Gerbis here. Do you have any questions you may have about the town center plan? and we look forward to your discussion and recommendation. Again, the staff recommended. questions you may have about the town center plan and we look forward to your discussion and recommendation. Again, the staff recommendation is for approval as of the text amendment as it's drafted. Thank you, Mr. Wasillac. Any my fellow commissioners have any questions? I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question. I have a question get the building heights bonus. So do we have like some kind of work for a quantitative ways to evaluate what kind of public benefit they can offer? Essentially those public benefits are those things that are deemed worthy by the mayor and council to enhance a development that would come forward, particularly in those areas such as affordable housing or open space, etc. Although there's kind of an interaction here with the floating zone because there are the bonus heights and the criteria for the bonus heights actually is the moderately priced housing exceeding our normal requirements. Thank you. If no other questions, is anyone want to make a motion. Make a motion that we recommend to the mayor and council. The adoption of the mayor and council. I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. Make a motion that we recommend to the mayor and council. The adoption of the mayor and council. I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. Make a motion that we recommend to the Mayor and Council the adoption of zoning text amendment or I guess the recommendation and adoption of zoning text amendment TXT2025-00269 to implement certain zoning recommendations of the town center master plan, including implementation of floating zones. Do I have a second? I second. All those in favor raise your hand or say aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. So that brings us to our regular commission items, the first one being a staff liaison report. Mr. Ross. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Looking ahead to your upcoming meetings, your next meeting is two weeks from this evening on March 26th. And you will recall that you scheduled a public hearing on the Shady Grove Metro Station annexation plan. And we also have a parking waiver for 1251 West Montgomery Avenue, which is the best western site that is looking to implement a full service restaurant within the building, but they don't have the actual amount of parking required to do so. And so they, the and the and the and the is the last vestige of the RACFOLM all that used to have the Montgomery County Department of Pervating Services located in it. And there's a development proposal for residential development to be built on the parking garage that would remain under the building. So that has been filed as a project plan. And of course, the first step is the briefing and it'll be coming to you at that meeting. And I did want to note, Those are pretty and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and staff liaisons to kind of more formalize procedures and give us training etc so she's been a great addition to the staff. What they have done is outlined certain boards and commissions which will be required to have a face-to-face presentation to the Mayor and Council of their annual reports. All boards will have an annual report to provide to the Mayor and Council. Of course, yours is required by State Code and we've been doing that all along, but I have scheduled a potential date at one of the Mayor and Council's June meeting meetings to make that presentation of the 2024 annual report. So I just wanted to let you know about that. The other key thing, key takeaway from the whole process is that the mayor and council have said that where there needs to be communication between the mayor and council as a body and the boards and commissions that that communication comes through the staff liaison through the department head and the city manager and to the mayor council. So I think that's probably how we would do it anyway, but it's just been more formalized now. So thank you and I can confirm my availability for June 16th. Okay. We discussed it before the meeting and I can confirm it now. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you and I can confirm my availability for June 16th. We discussed it before the meeting and I can confirm it now. Perfect, thank you. So that means your annual report will be on one of the May agenda planning commission meetings. So we have that adopted before we go to the council. Thank you. You discussed our next meeting and that's something I want to bring up to the fellow commissioners. I will most likely be out of state, so I will be joining virtually and my plan is to chair virtually with the exception of public testimony. I'd like someone in the room to facilitate. I think it would be easier. So is anyone who's here know that you'll be here next meeting so you can be my designated facilitator for the public testimony. I'd Ash Ann as the previous chair to do it. I know like traditionally that's kind of what we do, but he's not here and I so I don't. I may not be here at the next meeting. Okay. I will be here. I think that's the question. That's kind of what we do, but he's not here. I so I don't. I may not be here at the next meeting. Okay. I will be here. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll discuss it then offline. I'll just doesn't make someone to just help facilitate because it's easier for that in the room. I think that covers the staff ladies and report. How about old business we like to discuss. Okay, hearing none, any new business, anyone would like to discuss? Hearing none, that brings us to minutes. I didn't see any minutes, Mr. Wasis. There were no minutes for this meeting. You'll be getting a stack for the next meeting. Thank you. Any correspondence to discuss? No. All right. Well, do I have a motion to adjourn? I move to adjourn. A second. Second. All those in favor? Hi. Aye. Motion passed to unanimously. Thank you, Rockwell. you