Test test I see no one on the side. I want to have some short, short, briefings and a chance for you. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I would like to call the order and consider a plate out for a special register procedure. Lake Alfred, special registered proceedings for the 7th and 4th of March 20, 2025. My name is Joe O'Holly and I serve as special registered for the City. We're saying a lot to... Oh, not the blue button, the red button. Okay. Where was I? First thing I'd like to ask you to do is get your cell phone with you. Please silence it. Just spent the morning in code enforcement hearing down in winter haven and we had one gentleman that thought that didn't apply to him and his phone and by about 1130 a half the audience was ready to take him out so so I would prefer that we not get interrupt by by his phone today. Just a brief explanation of the procedures will take'll take the items as they appear on the agenda. I'll hear what the city has to present. And then I'll hear from the property owner, the owner's representative. And anybody else has an interest in it, such as a tenant, a joining property owner, lean holder, just anybody that has a material interest. And then once I hear all the evidence test money I will make a decision. The record for today's proceedings everything that's in the agenda packet will be a part of the permanent record unless there's an objection and I rule that it should be excluded but otherwise presume that everything will be in the record. If you plan on giving testimony today, if you're going to come up to the table and speak, I'd like for you to take a note. If you would, please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you give today will be the truth and the whole truth? I do. Okay, thank you very much. When you hear your case called, I will call the case by the case number and by the property address. If you're here as the owner or the owner who are representative, if you want to come on up to the table at that time, please do. First items for action on the agenda today are approval of our minutes from November 21 of 2024 and January 16 of 2025. I reviewed those. They appear to be an accurate reflection of what transpired that day so they are approved and they will be a part of the permanent record of those proceedings. of any changes to the agenda or any changes to the agenda or changes that appears. Okay, very good. First thing we have is what's called the consent agenda. The consent agenda, these are not new cases or new businesses. These are cases that have previously been heard. And there's already been a decision made that there's a violation. There was a violation on the property. The only reason these cases are brought back is the city asked me to enter a subsequent order certifying the fines that have accrued on the property. So in those cases, if you're here on one of those cases, we don't get into an argument about whether or not there was a violation to begin with. That's already been determined. Orders already been entered to that effect. And the appeal period has passed. So we'll just be talking about if and when the property came in compliance and how much fine has accrued on the property. The first one is case number 2021-000032. This is property located at 1850 and 1870, US Highway 1792. Mr. Mr. Watson, if you'd present on behalf of the city please location number 2021, triple 032, located at 1792. Alford Road, and Lake Alford, Florida. The last supplemental order on this case was an order imposing imposing fines on 6, 2024, affidavit of noncompliance on 03, 2020, 24, 25, excuse me. Notice of hearings were service and process of notice for select to floor to law, not assume. Code cited, we're entered in into record at a prior hearing. Public postings as required. The pictures took on the property or noncompliant. The owner's rep is to submit an updated ASPIL. City water main shut-off valves have been identified by the city. Public works is coordinating with the owner to proceed with the permitting and installation of the master meter and backflow preventer. I'm coordinating with building official and permitting department documents for structural and electrical repairs, declared code violations in each Bayon utilized final ass bills. Once the code violations are clear, the certificate of compliance will be issued. SAP recommends the following, find violation continues to to exist. Certified fines of $68,250 for $273 days at $250 a day. A total of $300, $350,000. And a word of administrative cost of $48.49. Okay, thank you. That certification then would be through the date of last inspection I presume. That is correct. It's in the certification of fine certification table. What's that? We're 273 days. Okay. All right. Thank you. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Could you state your name for the record, please? My name is George David. I'm representative agent for the owners of the property. And you've heard the testimony of Mr. Watson. What would you like for me to take into consideration on the city's request today? As a update, what he said was exactly what is where we're at now as far as trying to come to a conclusion on this violation in order to close it so that we can move forward with additional occupational certifications for the building. have very significant progress and addressing a lot of the issues at hand. At the moment, we are in negotiation with the Public Works Department to create a master system for the property. And we have also had some meetings regarding with the building department, regarding a plan, a follow-through to address some of the issues that are evident with that throughout the property that were unpermitted activities created by mostly tenants that were in there that did work with either unknowingly without a permit or wherever it got there. So there's been a plan of action approved between the city and the stakeholders which were in in process of first look. It's under it's in the words right now. We have removed a lot of the deficiencies that cannot be addressed through a building permit to bring them into compliance. That is almost completed and the next step is to come in with a set of plans that addresses the remaining uh, unpermitted work that exists on the property to bring the whole thing into light. It's part of public record and approval through the building department that this is how the property stands today, which should remove any conflicting conditions that were there and not contained within the building record for the city. That is forthcoming and we intend to have that hopefully completed by whatever the next hearing date is that we're going to schedule for this sometime out within the next few months. I would believe we're in the process right now of getting ready to install the water system and also perform the duties. Once I have a permit approved by the city building apartment for the interior improvements that exist on the property, which we're very close to the end on that right now too. So my I request consideration for a time some time in order to get these final activities in order in place and then complete them, which should be a very short time, for that because we've done most of the work already. And then the next year will be for the contact Mr. Watson to request a abatement of the violation and take the next step beyond that. I'll follow it with permitting and as soon as permitting is done with it, I'll go out and do my final inspection with fire and building. And that will bring the case to close. Long time coming, right? Yeah, this is the eight. We're down to the subway. We're straight on the court. Bottom of it now. Good. Good. Well, so for purposes of the matter that's before me right now, I will enter an order, supplemental order, certifying the fines for the, that's 273 days for the additional amount of $68,250 plus assessing the city's cost of $48,49 those costs being payable in 30 days. Okay. So where do we stand at this point though? So, will continue to run until you're completed out. And then we'll put you in for a reduction. Where about do we have another meeting schedule beyond this? There. I'm going to wait on you now. Okay. If you want to give me a timeline. I can show right in here. No, I don't think we need it. At this point in time, I just think we need to now take the appropriate actions, and get this thing done, and then update the violation quickly. Then you've got your 120 days. Yeah, there would be probably that small enough. I believe you get done from it. Okay, that's cool. If it happens sooner than it's sooner, I would assume, right? Sooner than better. That's what I'm saying. If we happen to get it done quicker, then you could... We don't have... We don't have to wait for another hearing to say that we're in compliance. No, it gets. Carl has to certify that it's in compliance. Once he certifies it's in compliance, then you can apply for reduction. But we'll apply for reduction. That'd be set for hearing. OK. So when that will be, would you hear that as both a certification of forward fines and a reduction on that same days and out. Yeah. Once they're in compliance, we can do the certification and the reduction all in one one hearing. Right. That's a lot of information. Right. Right. Because there will be an additional fine, a cruel appliance and so. Yeah, we'll need to certify The fines through the date of compliance and we can before we can do the reduction But that can all be done in one one afternoon. Okay. Do the one and then we'll Do the reduction later on in the hearing So when he's when I notified mr. Watson that we feel that we've done what we're supposed to do, he will inspect it and then abate the violation and then this that finds will be accrued to that date. The hearing will be set because of this sort of by those funds and then they and then right because of the type of violations I'll have to bring a building official in the farm market with me. That's okay. They're gonna be up there Anyway, they're gonna be out there to be able to go ahead and so you can VTR these people right to yes, okay Quick or the better. Yeah, they'll have to come out in order to finalize my bullet for them anywhere And then you can come back up for a final for the for the the, for the, I mean, for the code of statement, right? As soon as the building officials notify me, they're going out there with them. We'll try to do that. We'll try to do that. We'll get there. Okay. As soon as the way with signed off permits, I'm going to be able to close this case. As soon as Carl certifies that the properties and compliance, the fine stop running then and then you're ready to apply for a reduction. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like easier, easier, that's said than done, but we'll get done. We're there. It's all the way like words when done at the sound. It's alright, weren't you? You want to pay that? You got straight ahead and I'll do it today. I'm going to get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a All right. Thank you. Thank you. So for the record in case number 2021, dash zero zero zero three two, I will enter a supplemental order, certifying the additional fines in the amount of $68,250 and assessing the city's additional costs, the amount of $48,049, cost being payable within 30 days of today's date. Okay, next case for certification is case number 2024-001014. This is probably, excuse me me properly located at 10 80 South Lakeshore way. There is nobody here for that case. It's a certification case number 20 24 triple 0 14 located to attend a self-lake short way. For imposing fines was on 1017, 22, 24, FDRIVON compliance on 0306, service of process and notice pursuant through large-a-law. Still violations. It's now been 259 days since code enforcement action was taken. And they're still more to do. Property isn't remains in violation. Separate men's find the violation continues to exist. certified fines of $7,700 for 154 days at $50 per day, or administrative costs for $48.24. All right. Call is this correct? The affidavit of posting states that you posted on October 3rd of 2024. That would be 25. We'll get them in October 3rd of 2025 unless you're... I just want to make sure that... So that you post... That was the Scribner's area I'd like to correct on the record as the date that you posted the property manager. 436-2536 of 25. I make an order to this motion to amend the affidavit of posting to reflect March 6, 2025 rather than October 3, 2024. So, granted. Okay. And next is case number 2024-0052. This property located at 595 West Columbia Street. Case number 2024, triple 052 located at 595 West Columbia. Resided for the violations is listed. We're finding violation was 1017-24 inspection date was 036-25. Day is non-compliant with 83. Happy date of compliance was completed on 0925. Service and process from notice was pursuant to far wall. Public postings as required.ens of the front lawn over two feet tall when I make contact with the abandoned vehicle owner and she notified the bank to pick it up. They have been out of the house for approximately a month. These are pictures before and after compliance on eight 24s before 010925, what's the data compliance? Staff recommends buying the property and compliance as of 010925. Certify the fines of $5,200 for 52 days at $100 per day. And award administrative cost at $48.49. Is that I'm looking at. Did you say? What I have here says 53 days. This must be it should be 52 days. Okay. All right. And in the. There was an addendum to that certification of fines for one day. So it's 5,200, $5,200. That is correct. Incompliance as of January 9. That was also going to be case number 6 for a reduction, but they didn't show up. Okay. Well, wait and see. All right. So I'll certify the additional fines. I'll certify the fines to the amount of $5,200 and the cost of $48.49. Okay. Under New Business, case number 2024-00558, this is property located at 221 Cat-Tailway. Anybody here on that case? No. Okay. I'm surprised if that is well. Case number 2024-00505A located at 221 Pat Delway, was cited for Section 106.30 Declaration of Adonance and Demand for Correction from the minimum property maintenance code Section 105.1 on the Florida Builders Code Section 110.3 required inspections from the Florida Builders Code, Section 1, 10.6, approval required from the Florida Builders Code, Section 1422 permit required, Millake Alfred Code of Noordances. Notice the violation was sent on 11,-24. Inspection date was 0306-25. Days non-compliant, 113 days. Affidavit of violation was on 0306-25. Expired Burbment, Building Permit, since 0200223.562 days service and process of notice was pursuant of Florida law public notices as required. This is a fence and schedule on inspections building inspector here is here if you want testimony from him. The fence was not installed according to plans and failed three inspections because lakeside fence sections were not installed properly. Expiring permit now to sent by building department on 07-022-23. Expired. The expired permit noticed sent by Bowling Department on 08-0223. on November 3, 2023 defense contractor and homeowner call about regarding expired fence, lakeside fence looking from north to south, pictures taken on 030625, code enforcement, logbook, by violation exists in the last 30 days for compliance and $50 per day here on behalf of the owner. will in order, consistent with the testimony and evidence presented by the city, determining that the violations did exist and continue to exist on the property. Property owner will be given 30 days in which to bring the property in compliance or a $50 day fine will commence to run. In addition, the city's cost the amount of $88.94 or assessed and payable within 30 days of today's day. Thank you. Take out from mobile home part. Hello. Okay. So next is case number 2023. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. it was filled out. Pro Tunk appaday, a bit of compliance that was milled out. So we'll go with case 2023, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, located at 670 East Alford Street. The Movel is in the middle in red. The Nunk Pro Tunk app, David of compliance was back dated to 092323, the affidavit of administrative closing of the violation with 112124, and the date of the last inspection was 030625. Currently, the motel is non-operational. of process and notice was provided for so-and-for floor to law. As this is a reduction case, there was no reason to cite the property. Public postings as required. The motel rooms have been closed for renovations since 9.23. The office is operational under the mobile home park BTR. SAF recommends buying the property in compliance as of 09.23.23 for the attached note. Pro-Tone to have a David of Compliance recorded on 0124-25 and book 1341 page 0396. certified fines of 16 days at $4,000 for 16 days at $250 a day from the 090823 to 0903, 2323, the date of compliance established at the November 21st, 24 hearing. Total fines are 37,500. Award Administrative Cost for this hearing of 3175 staff recommends a 50% fine reduction plus administrative costs 18,086960. Is there a separate order for the fine certification? Generally the fine, if your reduction is mutually exclusive from the fine certification, so do we have a, do we notice a, an order imposing fine or supplemental order imposing fine to certify that $4,000? That was, we had closed the case at that point and there was no further order, the minutes are included in your book from the November hearing of close in that case and that was the extended days from the date that was to the date of a very closing with the person that was here and that's how that 4,000 came to be. Your Honor, if I can request a five minute recess, I'd like to discuss potential order options for this particular case. OK. Yeah. All right. We'll be in recess for five minutes. Can you think that? so it there wasn't a fine certification that we might then want the women to acknowledge and accept voluntarily $4,000 as unrecorded fines? We write an issue for her as far as this includes $4,000 un Ray Corp. The beans and the reduction order. And we have it this sufficient problem. Yeah, I think so. Is that it? Yeah, that was it. That was easier. The concern is that typically what we do procedurally is we would have a certification of the fines as we did at the early part of today's proceedings. And then subsequently we would have the reduction request heard during the same proceeding, but we don't have that on the agenda. So what we would, so we'll work that out, assuming that the property owner's representative is agreeable to that? I'm trying to remember this case. And this was the case when we had the affidavit of what we were discussing, whether or not a violation still existed and the property owner identified that the motel had been actually closed down and unoccupied for a period of time. And so the question became, is there really a violation which would exist on or for the property if there's no occupancy and it's not being operated as a motel. And the conclusion was and staff agreed that there would be no violation if there was no occupancy and or no business being operated on the premises as a motel. So that's why we had an affidavit of compliance, not pro-tunt, to the date on which the motel operations ceased on the property. And staff, that would include our code-efficial Carl Watson, as well as the property owner had agreed on the date which the operations for the motel had ceased. It was uncontroverted. And just for the record, we then back on the record. Okay. The question, this is the motel that's located within or adjacent to the mobile home. Puts it right. We want me to go back to the pictures. Now, what I'm just trying to remember, what was the violation? I mean, I'm looking where the violation was laid. The violation was laid. The structure continued to be occupied. We worked with the, there was four different property managers I believe that this thing went through hands and they kept residents in the motel up until approximately 923 was the last that I really had anything on. But there was a change over of BTRs where they were going to change it over from a motel to a apartment and then back to motel and now I understand it's going to stay a motel. But the issue that really came down to was, and what I agreed to, with the person that was here on 923 was the last day that I believe they either pulled rent or something of that nature. She provided something testimony and that I agreed to that that was the date that the mobile home park was down. This was a business tax receipt. This is a business tax receipt. I wish you and these people purchased that property. I don't seem to the best of my understanding. And there was a considerable change of personnel between esp- unseen to the best of my understanding. And there was a considerable change of personnel between Esposito owning it and these people now owning it and they had a management guy in here for it and we tried to work with him to get the BTR straight out. Three managers later they decided to take it from an apartment, from a motel to apartment, so it was still in them both. So there's a lot of room in here for questions, but none of their managers had any answers until we cornered them on 923-23. Okay, yes, The city is not a, you know, has no problem with a substantial reduction. But the property came in compliance not by virtue of getting the business tax receipt, but by ceasing operation as a hotel or motel. And right now, it's definitely not occupied at this point. Okay. So we've got total fines, well, we've got the 4,000 that haven't been certified, but if we include that, the total would be 37,500. And then the only cost that... Well, let's see, we've got cost... I'm being asked to certify costs today of $3175, but then we still have costs from at least one previous Board of Cost of 8750. Well the total is 160. Right. going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to get some food. I'm going to go to the next one. Okay. I'm checking on math here. So I've got 87.50 is the one previous award of cost that has not been paid and 31.75 today. And my total on that is 1.19.25. As opposed to 1.19.60. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to make... I'm just trying to make... Okay, the affidavit of course, there the previous was 8785, not 8750. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good afternoon. And you voluntarily accept and waive notice and present, then as to any unrecorded leans in the amount of $4,000 for purposes of the reduction order. Yes. Okay. So stay training for the record, please. Just a few more query. And your relationship to the property? I'm a regional manager. Okay. What would you like for me to take into consideration on your reduction request today? Just that we did stop. We did have a vendor that began services without approval. Once the stock order was put in, we have not done any work sense since we are even still into engineering process. We don't even have a set Project for the motel Okay, so it's presently vacant. Yes In your honor to refresh your recollection I can't speak to to the fact that since new ownership has come in, a new representation has come in, I believe I have seen you at many hearings as well as your associates. And they have the Newman's work on the property and working with staff in order to get to this point. So there's been no lag time in their efforts to bring the property into compliance. Yeah, so this property's gone through what? Two sets of managers? Well, has it changed? I mean, I remember when I first heard the code enforcement case on it, I think it had just changed hands at that time. That is correct. There were all kinds of issues. Did it, the property change hands again? No. No. The homes of America bought it from Espizito. Espizito had some central fines in the city, made an agreement with that. They did inherit a number of code violations. They are working remedy, they are limiting pretty well. I mean, it's coming along. Right now, I only have one active notice of violation on Palm 20, which is just one unit. And right now, they're working to correct that. I spoke with her. She's had them tear down. I haven't been out for an inspection yet, because I haven't got word to pay their for me down. Other than that, the park is expanding substantial money. And it is apparent that places looking much better. They've also put in a narrative to go ahead and develop if possible, 18 more units that are in there with new units. So it seems to be a positive purchase. So Carl would it be your testimony that new owner has jumped in and taken care of the issues that existed not of their creation but of their inheritance by purchase of the property? Yes, as a matter of fact, they have. There's a couple of ongoing issues, but they're so limited at this point compared to what they did. Take in, and with the fact that they did change for different managers and office personnel, one die of a stroke over there over, you know, working things out. That was a pretty terrible event. One, they had, it was an incompetent, but he talked to the game, but didn't do anything. And finally, the team that you've got over there now, I believe is going to be there right on. I think they're going to be a substantial benefit to the owners. Okay. And the city's recommendation was a 50% reduction, but I think I also heard you say that you had no objection to a substantial reduction. That's direct. 50% is what I've been matched out at. So but I definitely have no problems with this. Okay. Well, this is, I mean, from my experience, cities are always looking for new owners that come in and take over a distressed property that despite years of efforts can't be brought into compliance and the new owner gets it done. Sounds like it's getting done now, but there was a little bit of slippage there in the beginning before you really got traction. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to reduce the finds, the daily finds to a thousand dollars. In addition, that will be the cost that remain outstanding $119.60. So that will be $119.60. So that'll be $119.60. That'll be payable within 30 days to get the benefit of the reduction. Otherwise, if I guess back up to the previous amount. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Yes. Uh-huh. Cost being 1,1960 for total of $119.60. Okay. Next is case number 2024 at 0,00 5 2. The owner applicant. So I don't know if there's no appearance here. Your honor for a case where 24 0 0 0 5 2. The city would request that it be summarily denied. Okay. And Carl there hadn't been discussion with them about an agreed reduction. I had numerous conversations with them about the importance of maintaining a property which they are doing. They are owned from out of state, but they do have two local reps within two county distances that were supposed to show up at this hearing. I agree, just denied in its entirety. Well, I mean, the only reason I'm asking is I want to be sure that they were not under the impression that through discussion they had agreed to a stated amount for reduction that they were good with that and The city was good with that. So we don't have any stipulated. No, as a matter of fact, I emailed the three parties that about the hearing they called me in. And I said, you do have to have a person here for reduction and they asked me how much was on it. I told them how much was on it and I don't know whether they decided that it wasn't worth the effort or they just overlooked it. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, So that the request for reduction will be denied due to the failure of the applicant to show. Alright, so next we have four cases all related to 555 Midway Avenue. This is just case 219-0009-221-00003-R-2023. 0, 0, 0, 12, R, and 20, 24, 0, 0, 0, 36 are. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I unless the city thinks otherwise I would like to hear all these at once and then make a decision. Just let's go through all of them rather than hear one make a decision here the next one make a decision. I'd like to get the toll pay just just hear the cases through and then yeah I did make a tally sheet in there okay good that has a total number on it and it breaks it out for cases good I'll catch you number seven, 2019-00-00-09-555 Midway fine reduction hearings. Supplemental order and finding. Supplemental order imposing fine. for closure was on 11, 21, 24. Half a David of compliance was on 11, excuse me, 0, 3, 24, 20. Properly inspected on 0, 3, 0, 6, 25. I think I transcribed those numbers. Honor confirmed advance. We have email and service of process and notice provided. Persevantful law. Well, those things as required. Picture taken on 030625 proper income fly-outs. And then there's a tally sheet at the end. There's a tally sheet that's attached each one. It covers all four if you want me to go straight to the back. Yes, let's do that. That would help me if I could pick the big picture. Is that in the book or yes, is that it? It should be in the book. I've got it on. There should be a fine. It's right. No, it will be in here. Okay. I think what to say, right, it's the last thing, the last page. This, that one. Okay. That covers all four of them. Okay. All right. Very good. Do I make the cases end the cases into the record or are we going to take care of that at the end? I'm sorry. Oh, you do want me to read the cases into the record? Well, I've read the case, if you will just on each case, so taking the cases in the order that they appear on this spreadsheet, 2019 case, 2019-00009, there's no fine, There was no fines on that. There's just the cost. There was no fines on that. There was a total cost of one nineteen sixty nine. No find a crewed on that case. Okay. And in 2021, zero, zero, zero, zero, three are. Okay, let me go to the last page. Yeah. On three are the prior certified finds of 4,550 administrative cost are there at 1475 total a total of administrative costs. 232. the number The numbers in that far column over there are their totals for each of the four cases. Okay, so the total per case so at $4,763.90 sets, all costs and all fines combined. All right. Okay. And then we have an abatement of $240. What is that with regard to? That was when the city did cut the lot, there is a receipt in the file and we decided to just go ahead and take care of that abatement rather than put it on the factual. That the abatement is a special assessment though when the subject to redouch him because that's a benefit to the property so that you can get certified on the factual. The abatement is a special assessment, though, when the subject to reduction, because that's a benefit to the property. So that you'd get certified on the Navarole, or it would need to be paid and collected. That's not something that would be subject to reduction. It's not an administrative fine. Well, on the end I have the staff recommends 50% reduction of the fine plus abatements and administrative costs. It's as possible. Okay. What I'm trying to do is so now that I understand what the abatement is. So I've got total cost and administrative cost for the four cases of $859.65 plus $240. So that's $1,09 and.65 in abatement and administrative cost, which can't be reduced. Okay. And the total fines we're looking at is the 25,750. I've got 26,849,675. Well, I'm just looking at the fines. I've got the is 25,750. Remind me, Carl, what? So we have four different cases here, and I vaguely remember, but I don't remember specifics about what the nature of the violations were. The violations are told we digress and jump for the most part. Apparently they lost contact with anyone down here and for years it just kept getting cut occasionally and over the years the only reason that this case got to be heard was when I sent out the notice of foreclosure and apparently someone called them and got in touch with them at that point and they realized that they had let this go. The address if I'm not mistaken mistaken, was in Jamaica, New York. And they moved and never did change their address from what I understand. And they were not getting the notices. So it was only when somebody called that wanted to buy the property after they saw the notice of hearing for foreclosure that something took place. As soon as that did, they did clean it up and as you can see from the picture on there, it is being maintained. But this is just an unimproved piece of property correct that is correct vacant lot So the the fines are the result of Weeds and tall grass etc. I correct generally Generally. Okay. All right. Okay. And again, the city has a recommendation. Correct. It's on that particular case. It was 50% reduction of fines plus the abatement and administrative cost. And that took it substantially. Okay. So I'm going to assume that in each one of these cases that would be the recommendation of the city that the total daily fines be reduced by 50%. Okay. Good afternoon. We just take your name for the record please. Still no clear. And what is your relationship to the, please? My father. Your father's a owner of it? Yes. OK. What would you like for me to take into consideration on your reduction request? I'm going to give you some of the points here. But again, we weren't during the course on savings to this use. But again, during that time period, we weren't aware of what was it like of the notice to the Zordichies that were happening on land but the moment that we did we promptly put in place of plan to to care about it make sure that we were dressing this issue and also communicating with the neighbors nearby to ensure that we don't have this ever again. But I think at that point quite literally when I received that message I was in the end of the contract actually we made sure that it sure that the assembly had a short sense to make sure we had this properly. And just in consideration, I might like my... Here, for the whole long future, we also are saying that we're coming down season-leads and make sure that we also don't let anything dester, anything past the point that we had before. in two of the other father of the senior citizens, well, and just like the kind of a fee that was given prior, just being gigantic, kind of relative to even just how much we have in all the way itself. And we're hoping that we can go on a little bit here and just continue our journey of only a splandier life. Yeah. What's the plan with the property? You've made... continue to continue our journey of only a 90 year. Well, yeah. What's the plan with the property you mentioned? Or I think Carl mentioned that someone expressed interest in buying it as is that the plan? I think we hesitate to exact, can we speak? I think that for us we want, I think we want to personally do something about the land ourselves. I think that was the vision when we initially brought it. And I think as now, so the family we're more capable to do that. We're not sure just yet, just because it's not how it markets in in the past year. But I think that soon we do want to do something with the land itself. So we're developing on it, otherwise. That's all right. How long has your father owned this property? It's on this since. From father. otherwise. That's all right. How long has your father owned this property? It's on this since. How far? I can see. I'm sorry. I started to do dance at 2007. 2007? And was he living here prior to, I mean, did he move away? I'm trying, what I'm trying to understand is why we have neglected the property over the last few years or apparently there was no problem with it before. It was a pandemic and speaking. So usually we have an opportunity to come down in some capacity so that I would come down Florida otherwise the neighbors I got the land in some some way during the pandemic we like well one of my favorite members third we just didn't go back down again which made it that we didn't have our natural kind of like oh I see what's happening or you can set conversation with our neighbor by neighbors to say how are things going and then as time kind very continued, I think when we were trying to communicate with like Alfred, I think we were a bit confused on future seats about that point because at this point, I think I was also going to start an edit some of the process there. And once we moved, we didn't receive any more mail. So I think that at that point, we were just paying our taxes and kind of, we were like, oh, there's no problem. I think this is a bit of juvenile arm, or but the end of the message back, or say, the fabric, things like that, okay. I think that, like, time kind of passed us in that sense. So, yeah, like every year we just pay our taxes, we kind of see on the website anything, or like, oh, there's a problem where it was. So we kind of, yeah, and if you don't have something really, it's not possible. Problems that could be heard. All right. Well, so on the first case, 2019-000009, sensors know fine that's accumulated there, and there can be no reduction of the cost. I mean to satisfy that, that lean on the property. There's really nothing for me to do. It's $118.69. It must be paid in order to make that go away. You agree with that, Mr. Clayton? Yes, Your Honor. So for case 2019-00009 9 the order would state that the cost of one 1869 are payable within 30 days. Correct. So I'm looking at the other three cases. The cost on, there's nothing to be done about those. I'm going to go to the next room. Okay, so excuse me. Looking in case 2021 dash is zero, zero, zero, zero, three are a total administrative cost on that are 213 and $9213.92. finds total 4,550. Okay, what I'm going to do is to simplify this. There's not going to be magic to it, but in each one of the remaining three cases, regardless of what the amount is of the fines that have accumulated. I'm going to reduce the fines in each one of those three cases to $400 plus the cost. So in case 2021, 3R, that would be 61392, is that correct? Correct. Pable within 30 days. Then in case 2023-0012R, the cost are $325.90. reducing of daily fines to 400 so the total on that will be $725.90 payable within 30 days. This case has the agreement. Pardon? This case has the agreement. This case has the agreement. 12 and so that's a for 12. Toronto would be be 325 90. Does that include the abatement? You know, thank you for pointing that out this. I got 965 with the abatement. Yeah, include the abatement on top of the cost. So 965, 90 on that one, then on the last one. would be the 400 plus 201 14. Correct. So it would be 601 14. Payable within 30 days. So what I have attempted to do here is without making any more complicated, just reducing it all down. So my intention is for the city to recapture the abatement and the administrative costs that have been awarded and the abatement has been incurred and also in addition to that of $400 on each one of the cases that has a daily fine that has approved. So again for the record In case 2019-000009 the reduction will be $118.69 payable in 30 days. In case number 2021-00003R, the reduction in cost, excuse me, a reduction in final, be $400 plus the cost in the amount of $213, $9,000 for a total of $613, $9,000 payable in 30 days. 2023-001012 are the total daily fines will be reduced to $400. In addition to that, they'll be the administrative cost, the amount of $325.90 plus the $240 in abatement for a total of $965.90 that must be paid within 30 days. Lastly, on 2024-003036R, the daily accrued fines will be reduced to 400 plus the cost of $201.14 for a total of $601.14 that must be paid within 30 days to get the benefit of the reduction. and I'm going to get the humus of their digestive type. I can't do it off the top of my head, but. You got that. These are the scouts. Okay. Sir, by my count, it's $2,299.65. I'll be right back. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, anything else to come before me today? Our next hearings will be on April 17th. Thank you everybody. We're adjourned.