Good morning. Today's regular meeting of the Shasta County Board of Supervisors. It is Tuesday. July 16th and the time is 9 a.m. We have all board members present today along with CEO Dave Rickert, County Council, Joseph Larmer, and from the Clerk of the Board we have Stephanie Blankenship and Valerie Ibarra. We encourage those who wish to participate in public comment. Fill out a speaker request card found at the back of the room and submit it to the Clerk of the board. All speaker request cards must be submitted to the clerk of the board before public comment period begins. This help staff plan their days accordingly and ensures that businesses conducted in an orderly fashion while still allowing the opportunity to observe and participate in today's meeting. Those wishing to participate in public comment related to those items not listed on the agenda, but within the jurisdiction of the board. Or items listed on the consent calendar will have a single opportunity. 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All speaker requests card submitted after public comment for each regular calendar items begins will not be heard by the board. Lastly, all speakers will have three minutes unless the chairman determines that all speakers will be allowed a shorter or longer period of time. After your three minutes are up, your mic will be muted. If you do come here and you are asking questions of the misblankingship or Miss Ibarra, I would ask that you please keep your voice down as it can be distracting to the speaker that is at the lectern at that time. With that, I will turn things over to the clerk of the board to review the rules of order before the board of supervisors. Thank you. Through the chair, I would like to remind everyone in attendance today of the board room rules of order as outlined in administrative policy 101, which can be found online through the clerk of the board's website. This policy includes sign-in restrictions, attendee seating, and overall conduct, to ensure business is done in an orderly fashion, and that all have an equal opportunity to participate. Unless addressing the board, all those in the audience shall remain sitting in the chairs provided. Standing along the back wall of the boardroom is acceptable, so long as no person blocks the ingress and engress. Media representatives may stand and use equipment in the area designated along the south windows. Conduct which disrupts the board meeting is prohibited and we kindly ask that all attendees adhere to these rules. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Ms. Blankenship. At this time, I'd like to invite up Pastor Doug D. So the neighborhood church of Anderson, Cottonwood. And I'd ask you to please stand or remain standing after the invocation for the pledge of allegiance. Thank you for the invitation to pray to God. I invite you to do that with me. It's an amazing thing that we can bow before God and others as we think about the business that needs to happen here today. You have been instructed us to be still and know that you are God. And I would ask that you work through your Holy Spirit in helping us to know truly who you are and therefore of Peace, you're the Prince of Peace. And so I ask that unity would come to the households of this county, that unity would enter into the workplace and into business and industry here. I certainly invite you, Lord, the God of Peace to help at our federal level. Please God. And now especially for this board, would you be the author of peace as they consider resolutions and adoptions and approvals of all that's on this agenda today? I know there's differing opinions and that should be and let them debate well and remove themselves from this council in a peaceful manner. Please, God. And in all that, we want you to be recognized as a God that deserves our attention and our loyalty. And so I pray all this in Jesus Christ's name, amen. I'd like to invite all of you to join me in the Sloughtower flag. I pledge that you just do the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic of the U.S. One of the nation, another rock, individual, and liberty, and justice are all. Thank you, Pastor Deese. Thank you, Supervisor Rickard. I just want to say thank you to Pastor Deese. It's been a while since senior. I'll go into high school and play basketball with my husband. There we go. There we go. Moving on to R1, receive an update from County Executive Officer on County Issues and consider action on specific legislation related to Shasta County's legislative platform and receive supervisors reports on countywide issues. CEO Rickert. Good morning, Sherman. Crying members of the Shasta County Board of Supervisors, Dave Rickert County Executive Officer reporting. I want to, I am pleased to announce that the Justice Center was relinquished by the courts, which consists of Department one and two at the Sheriff's Office. And that was effective July 15th. Also, the removing forward with the old courthouse and the parking lot exchange, that is tentatively planned for August 9th. The space that we're relinquishing as far as parking lot will be the 56 parking spots on Oregon Street, and we'll be getting 52 parking spots right next to the annex on the south part of the the south part of the annex on the old courthouse and that concludes my report. Thank you Supervisor Rickert or I'm sorry CEO Rickert let's start with Supervisor Rick record to my left. Okay. That was a paper tip. So I attended the Lions Club breakfast during Bernie Basin days in Bernie. It rode in the parade as an honored guest at the Bernie Basin Fire Day Parade. Had an important meeting with Paul and Sean from resource management over mayor's memorials, hospital issues to reopen the Tri-County Community Network Building. To reestablish as a daycare center. They've been with Outland for several months now. Tanded the Mental Health Alcohol Drug Advisory Board. We had a presentation by Sirth, the Crisis Intervention Response Team. That was very valuable information for all of us. The grievance process we reviewed talked about cooling centers. I think that's something that we need to really pay a lot of attention to during this time of extreme heat. Talked about proposition of one funding, a presentation. I'm going to ask if we haven't already put that as a presentation on our board agenda. Do we have that scheduled yet, Stephanie? I apologize, the supervisor record, which presentation? One. I don't believe we do, but we can certainly look at that. I would like to have that come forward to the board. About 30% of that allocated funding, roughly at this point, looks like it would be determined to be used for housing. I attended the NOC committee, nor the California Water Association meeting. State budget to a 16 billion in cuts. So it's going to be a 7.95% reduction in funding for nearly all state departments. They did, I will give them credit, they did eliminate 3.7 billion of thousands of vacant positions in the state employees. I was invited by Mike Flanagan, attended the Miracle Mile movie that was a local effort, and it was shown at the Center Mark movies. That was a lot of fun to see a lot of local talent and a lot of local landmarks in that movie. So if you haven't seen it, I recommend you make an effort to do that. I attended the Addicted Offender Program, had it out certificates. One thing that Judge Flynn mentioned in his remarks was about the fentanyl crisis we have in this county. It's of course nationwide. But he relayed that he had been seeing a few deaths, maybe every three or three or four months, and now he's seeing three or four a week. So we do have a crisis on hand, and I think that we need to pay more attention to that. Tended a shark meaning the Chefs to Health Assessment Redesign Collaborative. We had a presentation by Rick Martinez from Dignity Health Advanced Imaging and he talked about the acquisition and integration of MD imaging now owned by Dignity Health and was really interesting as they're using more and more artificial intelligence to read our test results. So that's kind of interesting. Also what was really good news is there was a $486,000 grant for ACEs to be studied in this county. Robin Shurg, who used to be our public health director, is responsible for getting that grant. ACEs is, and the name of the program is aware of family resilience. They're planning a pilot project in Easter Shaston County with some of that money too. So I was really pleased with that. And then Supervisor Garmin and I were both on the PSA2 area agency meeting with yesterday. I have several other things I wanted to cover. I'll do it as briefly as possible. First of all, I want to recognize and acknowledge the passing of Dr. Yoder. He was the member of the Public Health Advisory Board for many, many years. Member of Shark, the Shasta Health Assessment and ReDesign Collaborative. He had a stellar career in this community in medicine and he was very active volunteer. And really, he served on the panel when we hired a new public health officer, those kinds of things. So he will be missed very much in just county. I want to announce that Kathy Darling Allen was recognized by the American Bar Association. As recipient of the Unsung Heroes of Democracy Award, to quote them, these individuals stand out among the dedicated men and women nationwide who faced unprecedented threats and serve on the front lines of our democratic process and facilitate convenient, secure, accurate and safe elections. So thank you. I think that she deserves that recognition. And I think all of you please, please congratulate Kathy Darling Allen for that very, very honor, big honor that she received. In the agenda of the, because I get the agenda also of the Cisco County Board Supervisors, there's a section in here that I think that we ought to discuss and maybe we can put it on a future agenda item. But in their particular agenda, they have a disclosure of campaign contributions and it spells, there's a couple of paragraphs that spells out what a supervisor, how they're disqualified and not able to participate in any agenda item involving contracts, etc. So can I agendaize that in the future for discussion? Supervisor Rickert, we do have a living act section at the back of our agenda. We can certainly compare it to the agenda you have. Thank you, Stephanie, I appreciate that point. Well, this is very defined, talks about limits and that kind of thing. So, you can certainly give it to me and I can. Look at it and work with county council. And if there's an additional, I think we ought to have at least for discussion Sure, so I'll give you that and then just to clarify Earlier you had asked about a presentation on prop one. We do have an item coming from H. You just say okay I did okay. I I I knew I asked for it. I didn't know if it got none so it is on okay So that's good then also I wrote a letter as did supervisor Garmin to the governor on July 10th for revisions and resiliency to be built into our insurance market. I'd like to request a resolution to be passed from our board of supervisors to be sent to the governor. Similar to that, Assembly and Dean O'Connie, I've been talking to neighboring supervisors. I talked to Bruce Ross again, and we had a very long discussion. I'm finding out that they're talking about increasing our insurance rates by 35%. But that's going to be kind of aggregate, so that means that eventually they think it's going to stabilize the insurance market. But in the meantime, we are going to continue to suffer. So I think we need to move forward on this particular issue. I've had some complaints about some situations in District 3 and Palacitra area I'm working on in terms of safety. There was another accident yesterday. I talked to our public works director, Troy Bartolomey, about potential Cal Trans grants for Shasta County for sustainable transportation projects. Troy said he will be looking into pursuing a county road's replacement project. So I look forward to see if we can help our rural communities with improving our roads. I also have a, I'm having a letter sent and I think Jen devolved for this, a letter asking for support for funding judges based on Senate Bill 75. We need funding for our court system here locally. Then I wanted to give an update on a project started in 2019 by the previous board and Randy Slotter. I have a picture of it, it was in the newspaper. But we worked together to develop a new Shasta County Capitol display. And there was an outpouring of support from members of the community. We had a fund at the Shasta, it used to be the Shasta Regional Community Foundation, now the community foundation in the North State. And it was raised, I think we raised over $50,000. We also, husband, I also donated to that. And so we have this amazing display for those of you that haven't seen it. It's been at Turtle Bay and it's going to be placed back in the capital. They're done with, they're remodeling. So that's going to be a huge opportunity for people to be excited and intrigued about Chastwick County and all the opportunities we have here in and promote tourism. I'm concerned about our continued loss of employees on Friday within an hour period I had two county employees here in the hall tell me that they were leaving ones going to the state, ones going to the city. So I think we need to continue to look at that issue. I think it's a problem that's going to plague us for a while. And the last thing I want to report on is been a communication with our sheriff and he sent me a very high level report with a lot of statistics, which I won't go into. But we just had another marijuana eradication effort. It was three greenhouses behind the Chevron and Round Mountain and 11 greenhouses in near proximity and they collected 4,500 plants. So that continues. I just want the public to know that we continue to work on that to keep our environment safe and our people safe. So with that, that concludes my report. Thank you, supervisor Kielstren. All right. On July 3rd, I watched Anderson explode from afar. I was not an Anderson at the time, but as at a party where we could watch the fireworks. And then on the 4th, I was about to shingle town at the parade in Thatcher Mill Road. And then I also watched the fireworks from afar later on that evening. On the 6th I was back to Schingletown for a fire hall celebration that was canceled. I got up there and saw the sign and said it was canceled due to the heat. But I was able to stop and talk to the firemen that were mopping up on my friend's property on the corner of Dershin and Ash Creek. And then on the 11th I met with CEO Rickert and our PIO David and Stewart to review the letters that are in today's agenda. And then I attended a planning commission meeting later on that afternoon. And that evening we did a fundraiser for a little ILO, a little girl with some health issues, which is really sad. On the 12th I attended the addicted offenders graduation ceremony. And then I went to lunch with Mayor Audet and we discussed the airport and some of the issues there. Got her, her perspective on the whole thing, so it was a great lunch. On the 13th, I did my normal two breakfasts. I had the VFW breakfast in Anderson, and then I went up to the Schingletown and had the Fire Hall breakfast up there. And then I attended the clamper's jamboree that was also in single town that same day. And that'll conclude my report. Thank you, Simuvisor Calström, Simuvisor Jones. Thank you, Chair. I too was able to take a look at or enjoy the Anderson Firework. So we appreciate what they've done there. Last night, the rabbi, Red and Area Bus Authority meeting was canceled. Last night the rabbi, the regulatory bus authority meeting was cancelled. That goes on every month. I am the county's representative there. And I served on the rabbi board for eight years before, but they'll be back next month. Also the election commission, and I'm going to be bringing forward a couple items that is coming from the election commission. I'm working with ROV Taller now, and that'll come up in the next few meetings. And these are issues that the Commission has taken up, and I think they're important to address early on before next election. I too, along with supervisor Kelstrom, helped in a fundraiser for ILA. We raised probably around $30,000. She has an inoperable brain cancer, and so she's looking for alternative medicine, and this will really help her, so we appreciate that. And then lastly, Chairman Cry, this falls within your district, but it has been a problem for a while, and I was going to see if we could get a consensus and maybe ask our CEO to take a look at this. But the Redding Vets Hall on UBUS Street has a severe lack of parking and it's making the building almost unusable. Before we could use the railroad parking across the street that is no longer mostly not available to us. And when I was with the city, we reached out to the railroad to see if we could purchase that property for a parking lot. We had no success in doing that, but I would like to see if the CEO would be willing to reach out to the railroad to see if that property could be purchased for parking. It would certainly help everyone downtown because of shortage of parking. And it would help the belt to the vet's hall become much more usable right now. We're using other halls because there's just no parking there. And CEO Rickard, is that something I should put in a motion or do you think you could make some initial contact with that railroad? Supervisor Jones, I can just look into that and report back to the board on my success or progress and what the situation is and what we can potentially do with that property. The property is well known. It's been downtown ready. This entire time does have some contamination problems which does present some issues. However covering it in a parking lot may be the best solution and it could really help us and get rid of a possible liability for the railroad and without chair that ends my report. Thank you, supervisor Jones. Mr. Professor Garmin. Thank you, Chairman. These are no particular order, so I'll just kind of go down my list as I haven't written out. First of all, congratulations to Kathy Darling Allen on the unsung Heroes Awards from the American Bar Association. Moving on, I've been working with RCRC and the Fall River Community Services District to get them a $200,000 loan to put towards their two rivers park. What they have up there is something they've been working on for about 12 years, and they've got grants to cover, but of course the grants are after the project is completed or the phases are completed. When I was on RCRC we made some changes and we allowed districts like this to be able to obtain alone for situations just like this. So I was happy when RCRC reached out to me to work on that. So Mary, I wasn't trying to step on your toes, the two rivers park up there, but that's just how that came to be. Thank you. I attended the PSA2 on aging with Supervisor Rickard. I do want to talk about this real quick. The safer grant program which we use for the dry wells, that program is still active and it goes through the end of this calendar year. There was originally we were approved for $2.5 million. We still have $500,000 left. So if you notice somebody has got to ride well or well problems, they have five and a half months to get on that and get their wealth fixed or some repairs done. Take advantage of that. I'm happy to say we've been able to put $2 million back into our local community to help people with our water. That's a huge thing. I met with some community members, community leaders to talk about different stuff in the county. I met with your community, Jill Caminty, Jeff Gordon, Aaron Razzner at different times. Tend to the Redding City Council meeting. I attended the Addicted Offender program with Supervisor Kelscherm and Supervisor Rickert. There were four ladies who graduated that program. If you guys have never been to an AOP graduation, you really should go. It's just to see the turnaround on these people's lives. Every one of those ladies have been sober for, I don't remember the total amount of days, but some of them have been sober for 800 days plus. It's no small task to do that. You guys, anybody who does, anybody who's dealt with addiction or had one yourself, they are hard, they're hard to overcome. So we need to support this people in our community who are trying to make a difference in their lives to become positive citizens again. So congratulations to the four ladies. I met with District Attorney Bridget. I had two separate meetings with Miguel with both offices. Met with the first one with interim director Bailey and also with Laura Stapp, the deputy director. Then the next day we were over at Child Wellfare and I met with Tara Shanahan as well as Miguel. And I wouldn't just talk a little bit about that part of the meeting. I didn't realize how short staff we were in there, There's a 25% vacancy rate in child welfare. We're down nine social workers on investigation side of things. We're down seven members of the reunification team. And they take about 250 to 350 calls a month. And you want to be able to help these children in a timely manner. Is if something happens, we were not able to help a child because we're short staffed. The state's not going to like that very much. So we needed to work on hopefully getting some positions filled over there. I do want to give a huge shout out. When I first walked into the door, a child welfare, I was met by Crystal Weber, who's the receptionist, her positive attitude, set the tone. It just makes you, it makes it nice to be you, it's nice to be walking to a building you and you're greeted warmly. It really makes a difference. That first point of contact is so huge and anything we do in life. So crystal, shout out to you for having that beautiful attitude, much appreciated. Moving on, I also, along with Supervisor Rickard, we sent out letters to the governor and other folks at the insurance commission as well. I want to read the letter that I sent out. And it's just kind of drafted off of what San Bernardino County did when they asked the governor to make basically declare a statewide state of emergency for our insurance problems. So I'm going to read the letter that I sent out. And then afterwards I'm going to put it into a motion that we bring this back to either adopt this letter as a whole support or we can make changes to it at a future meeting. So here's the letter. Dear Governor Newsom, on behalf of the residents and district two of Shasta County, I am asking that you declare a statewide state of emergency and take immediate emergency action to strengthen and stabilize California's marketplace for homeowners and commercial property insurance. The continued cancellations of insurance policies are causing a detrimental economy. With this logistic economy, we need to do everything we can to avoid a further collapse. Those of us who reside in the underserved areas of the state are really suffering and I am asking that you please expand coverage choices for all consumers. We need to improve the efficiency, speed, and transparency of the California Department of Insurance rate approval process. This process must be tailored to account for all factors necessary to promote a robust competitive insurance marketplace, including through potential revisions to the way catastrophe risks, re-insurance costs, and other legitimate insurer costs are accounted for. It is imperative that we maintain the long-term availability of homeowners and commercial property insurance coverage. We need to maintain the solvency of the fair plan to protect its policy holders and promote long-term resiliency in the face of extreme weather events, including by identifying mechanisms to reduce its share of the overall market in underserved areas and move its customers into the admitted insurance market. We have to be something for our insurance. People are losing their policies right and left. People are not buying homes out in the county. They're all coming into the city where you don't have to deal with this as much. It's hurting us. It's hurting us here in the county and it's hurting our residents. So I'm going to make a motion that we bring this back for future discussion to have a board throughout the letter or use this one. And I'll second that. Before we actually, yeah, Chair. Before we vote on that, Supervisor Garma, I just, I'm way down that road as I'm already working with San Bernardino directly, but we can talk about that. Supervisor Jones. Yeah, he can, Supervisor Garma, you can send that letter on your own. You have that authorization. I already done so. Right. Right, well you can, but if it comes from the entire board, that would be different. This is directed to this too, so he can send the letter on on his own. Absolutely. We've already sent that letter and I've been going out and till I finish. It's your board report time set to you. Go ahead, supervise the record. Well, and I also was in communication with the chair of the board of San Bernardino County. I've talked to a lot of people. I'm trying to get a lot of, yeah, it was an email, so it didn't cost the county any money. I spent my own pocket. Okay, so we don't need to get into the, he said she said you guys. Let's just talk about the business of the county. I made a motion to bring this back to future discussion. Supervisor Cry, you mentioned that you are down that path if you'd like to elaborate real quick on that. I'll elaborate because I mean this is what just finish report report supervisor government I'd rather just have my time so I want you to have yours. Okay. Okay. So we'll bring that back here in a couple minutes. Sounds like. Okay then lastly I do have one thing that I heard and I want to I want to ask the source. CEO Rick are you in follow over meals with Corkey Harman and Supervisor Cry this last week? No, I was not last week. Was it the week prior? About a month or so I'll go I attended a chest a chamber of commerce event out in that area. Okay. I still don't share what those are about because how has the appearance of campaigning? Well, there was no campaigning there. I tend to a number of events adopt a pet as at the drug addiction graduations ceremony. I tend to a number of events with supermarkets. That's one thing, and I understand that, that is part of the business. But Shasas County Chamber, Commerce, is something we're still as a board, deciding if we're gonna put some money toward that organization. So I don't think it's your place to be there either way. And that's just my thing, I'd like you to just say. So I would ask the board to clarify what my role was because one of the functions I performed, I attend a lot of events that are community events representing the county, handing out awards. If the board wants to clarify and restructure what events I attend, what I don't attend, that would be perfectly fine with me if I can get clear direction from the board. I would be glad to follow that. Okay. All right. That's all I've got. And I just want to say that- Thank you, supervisor Garmin. I appreciate it. Can I- Can I- And I- And I- I can't end the advisor record. Yeah, I was going to say, in Fall River Valley, I've gotten a lot of reports over the last few months of Supervisor Cry being up there with Corke Harman. And I've had complaints about other chambers coming into the area and I represent the people in the Intermountain area and I'm there to listen to them and I'm not real pleased with what I'm hearing. And they're very concerned about losing membership. They're feeling that they're being undermined. And so I just want to get that on the record that I'm supportive of my people in the inter-mountain area and I will continue to be. And by the way, Chair Crite, the young man that owns the piece of parlors spent a good portion of his childhood at my house. He was my youngest son's best friend. And so he shared quite a bit with me in the last few minutes. So just so you know. Well, it's a shame you weren't at the chamber meeting then. All right. I'm going to tell you he's- Supervisor Rickard, if you don't mind, I'd like to jump in and- Okay, you're going to cut me off. All right, so I met with leadership at the ranch area as the BIA has issued their final ROD or what is also called a record of decision. So that's done. I went to the Shasta County Chamber Roundup at Subarama. I go to every single Shasta County small business chamber roundup I can. It doesn't matter if it's in Fall River, if it's in Palacitro, if it's in Cottonwood, or if it's in Reading, because supporting small businesses is something I'm very, very passionate about. And I think we don't need to clap, it's just what it is. And just like yesterday, I spent quite a bit of time speaking with the gentleman that owns the theory coffee shop and how the total fumble of the airport situation and how that's going to impact him and what the city's looking to do. So anytime I can support small business, I'm going to do that. And Supervisor Rickert will bring this back up maybe. I mean, we could politicize, I guess, everything we want. But I think you need to continue supporting small business and going to those. I just asked that- Oh, Supervisor Rickard, yes. I just asked that, you know, as a- Please, please- As a matter of- I did not experience this when years ago on the board. Does the board room was closed? No. Excuse me. I would like to finish my report if I could. I'm just saying that I think it's appropriate that it's a professional courtesy if you're going to hold events in another supervisors district at least alert them and invite them. At a respect for you, you're on medical leave, so I didn't bother you. You were at that time I had heard, maybe not coming back. So. Well, you don't, you can't believe everything you hear. Well, you were on medical leave. Anyway, here or there, I attended the Miracle Mile event as well. It's very, again, it's awesome to see filmmakers doing things here and celebrating Shasta County and all that we have to offer. So I think that was great. I'm working with the sheriff on a couple different meetings. We're trying to, I shouldn't say trying, we're working through about the decision of the US Supreme Court's ruling about a legal camping and enforcement of that and what that looks like locally. Being compassionate but at the same time holding people very accountable for doing things that are negatively affecting our way of life. And there's two different components to this that we're looking with. A lot of that is in the jurisdiction of the City of Reading and RPD. They're having conversations, chief barner and the City Council and their staff, but there's also this item or caveat about what we're prosecuting as well as the lack of judges. So in the process of all this, Sheriff and I have realized this needs to be broken into two distinctive meetings. One about enforcement and two about is it at the DA's feet, is it at across the street at the courts' feet? Like what we want, Sheriff and I, and I can't speak for him, but the thing for me is like just accountability. Like when stuff's happening and it's going unraveling, like who do we say? It's not about who's faulted is, but who's responsibility is to fix this issue. And that's what these two meetings are going to. We have one if not this week or the next week, and then we'll have the second one right after. I've been meeting with several department heads, but one meeting I will highlight is I did learn this as working on the traffic impact fees and then bringing it forth and then the board not getting the benefit of having as much time. So I'm letting the board know now on July 30th I'm bringing an issue about the assessor recorder and property tax and and the process of what we pay and what I realize is as I went down this road of understanding like how can we make Shasta County more affordable, more attractive in the state of California especially. I realize that the Board has jurisdiction of moving property sales tax in terms of your, not your trailers or things that have a registration of the DMV but like tractors or boats, things of that nature. How do we make that more affordable? And what the Board has jurisdiction over is we can set the low assessment value at $500 up to $10,000. So I was talking to Leslie Morgan, who's our assessor recorder. And she said, quite some time ago, the board moved it from $500 to $2,000. And I said, OK, great. I said, how long have you been office? And she said 18 years. I said, okay, so has that been done since you've been in office? She said no. Of course, it's like, what? So, okay. Well, what was it done? Well, it was done last in 1998. So, now I will say, Laurie Scott, know the short, who's there in the back, as well as Leslie are coming up with a study and they're working not a study, but they're figuring out what their real true hard costs are. If you just took a blank shot at it, now you got to remember in 1998 versus today, things are a lot more efficient, but labor is a lot more expensive. I'm ballparking it at probably 3500 to 4 grand at minimum, at minimum, like Ventura County's 7 grand. So I'm letting the board now know, start doing your research because that's going to come on the 30th and we're going to have the opportunity to reset that because if what this studies plays out is that us as taxpayers are just spending money to have other people have jobs and it's not fixing the road, it's not doing anything in particular, then why even have it? So that's coming on the 30th and I've spent quite a bit of time on that. The next item is the fire issue with San Bernardino and Chairperson Don Roe. Phenomenal, phenomenal human being, phenomenal leader, phenomenal lady on a lot of levels. I was flying to LA so I reached out to her and her staff about setting up a meeting. There was a fire, I won't say ironically, but there was a fire. So we had to do everything versus phone call and email. We've been in contact very consistently for almost a week. Now, I did ask her, I said, you know, what's the process of like, how can we lean in and help? Like, I have RCRC next week. What are some things we can do? And she started laughing. And she said she's been in politics, X amount of time. And she said a lot of people, you know, want to write letters and they feel good about it. But she said the fact that, you know, That's what we have to do to get something done. So here's our three action items that we're doing. Information on how to set up a community meeting with Commissioner Laura's team. So that means what I'm trying to do is get the insurance commissioner of the state of California to do his open house or his big community meeting in San Bernardino and then come up here and do one in Shasta County. So residents and any constituent, anybody that wants to come here directly from the horse's mouth about what's happening, we would maybe be in line to get that second one because I'm working very closely with Dawn. The other thing is get information on the 100 or so small insurance companies who still offer insurance for higher risk homes, but are not accessed through traditional insurance brokers. So what we're talking about, is that there's a lot of insurance brokers that are out there that people can have access to, but you'll never get them going through normal brokers because they're not going to reach out to these small entities. So people like many of us will never know those little companies exist and they're out there. So it's about getting a pipeline and networking into getting into that. So the last part is introduction to the building, the BIA, not to be confused with the Bureau of Indian Affairs, but the Building Industry Association of Northern California. She's actually talking on our behalf with SoCal and making that connection. So we have the opportunity to fast track that and actually have something happen. Because what I've seen in my time here is we can send a letter, it gets round filed into a trash can, but if we actually take those steps and be proactive and force action, that's how we can get some things done. So that's going to be coming and that'll be something I'll be working on daily. We have a call later today in fact. And so I'll be updating everybody if you're following any kind of correspondence I have. Two last things, the coffees, but I do on Fridays in off-vathons and district one. I'm going to, that's gonna be at hiatus until after Labor Day. I have some things on Friday mornings that doesn't mean I'm not available to do something outside of Fridays, but I just let the public know now Fridays at kaleidoscope are out until the week after Labor Day. And then the last thing I want to say and when we look at the agenda here and it says here we're talking about county-wide issues. I, this isn't a stretch, but this is what I want people to understand in this process is, you know, I pulled up, I got it sitting here on my phone, I printed it out, left it upstairs, but I have the, I took a screenshot of the record search light and their front page after the shooting on Saturday. And it says, Trump removed from stage by secret service after loud noises, startles former president, crowd. Here's the thing, records search like most of stuff is crap. You have to, as an individual person, get so involved with your community, your neighbors, your family, your friends, your church, your canasta group, whatever it is, and get people to understand what's going on politically in their county. Because we have a lot happening with elections in November at the city of Reading, at the board of supervisors, and the more people that are tuned in and understand what is going on the better. Because we'll have some things coming up in the next two or three weeks. And people are smart. People are smart. There's people that are so devious that I can't even think and track the way someone people do. And the one thing I've realized is, and I won't let my mind go there. But there's decisions and things come before this board that we are going to be voting on. But people know. Because one thing I won't do is I won't get this county sued. And I'm not going to put us in danger where some individual can benefit by gaming the system. And I'm going to leave it at that, but there's a lot of games being played. And for me, I'm going to keep getting the work done because that's what's important. Super misblankenship. I'm sorry, Supervisor Record went for a Supervisor Record. Yeah, I'm just going to backtrack a few subjects ago, but I met Ricardo Lara. When I was interviewed by the Senate Rules Committee at the Capitol, he was on the committee. And he's probably not a very engaged insurance commissioner. I just hope that we can get some action out of him, but I'm not really convinced. So if we can come up with some other idea to help the sides him. And I've talked to other supervisors who've had interactions with them and they concur with my assessment of the situation. So I think we're going to continue to explore all opportunities. And like I say, I think working with the Dallies, which is one thing I have been doing, I think that's a possibility too. Especially I just want to speak on people in the rural areas that are hit the hardest. We have anybody in agriculture is being hit with quadrupling, their insurance. And I think this is, I've been talking about this for what, two years now. And I think that's really important that we really focus on the rural areas and trying to get someone who has at least understanding Ricardo Lara is from Long Beach. And I remember when I went through my process, he never asked a question. He didn't get engaged at all. He acted totally bored. He let Daryl Steinberg ask the questions, various other senators. And so I'm concerned that it's going to be really hard to engage him. So we need to look at other avenues too. So with that, I just wanted to make that go. Thank you. Ms. Blankenshow. Chair, I just wanted to remind the board. Over the board. There we go. I just wanted to remind the board that we do have a motion in the second on the tables. So before we move on to another item now that all supervisors have had an opportunity to do the reports to please take a final action. Well one thing is, I mean we already, Stewart has already written a letter. I was going to bring this back on the 16th. But I mean, it's kind of, I mean, I think some of ourmin, you just send your letter. For me, I think you just send your letter and we can bring a letter that's been written by Stuart. But I mean, I'm really open that the difference is Supervisor Rickard. And this is, I mean, this is what's, it's tough for me because I came after Saturday like all of us have had our own thoughts and processes through it. But immediately everything becomes politicized. But for me, you talked to him two years ago. And it's like, no, it was quite a bit longer than that. OK, even longer than that. And I'm saying, I'm trying to say, let's get him up here and let's make a bunch of things happen. Because I realize the letters are just, I get what Joe Comenti said a long time ago about sending a letter, or they don't pay attention. I still think a lot of citizens want you to send the letter so they feel like you're doing something but I care more about action. So Supervisor Garmin if you're willing like I would like to see how my conversations go this week and what we could let's make it meteor with more substance that actually has a direct yeah it doesn't need to be this letter it just needs to be brought back so we can discuss. Have a letter of, I think that's great. How is traffic? Who is traffic? We need to make sure we get a good letter. And you're right. Most letters end up in the trash can. I get that. I understand that. But the idea is we have to send it. We have to do everything we can for our constituents. And I'm not opposed to having an insurface commission up here. they did a presentation of you to zoom and you will be hard pressed to get it large to come forward himself. He'll probably send somebody else. What's nice is but at least we can have the conversations. We just need to put the pressure on the state that we have a problem and we're not going to take it anymore. Yeah. Supervisor Jones. Well I guess this would be for council lumber. The supervisor Garmin can just simply send the letter. He does not need emotion, he does not need to be seconded. He can just- That's not what I was asking for. I asked the four letter to be brought back. That's emotion. Right. Not to send this letter, just to bring this letter or a different letter back so we can actually send something. That's fine. Stephanie. Yes, 70. Just for clarification, Supervisor Garmin had, I believed, reached out to CEO Ricker asking for a resolution, as well as a letter to be drafted by the board and considered by this board, which has already been started, we've already started working on that. Now with Supervisors requesting a voteable item on a future agenda, that's two ways they can do that. One, by getting simple majority vote at a board meeting or by chairman approval. So if he would like to move forward with that, we can certainly agenda for July 23rd meeting. One move forward. Okay, that's fine. Subvisor Rare. Yes, and I don't want to bore everybody, but when I was on the board of forestry, I also served as liaison to the range management advisory committee for the state. And we were being threatened. There's 23 million acres in this state that were being threatened by an additional fee by the water resource control board. And it was through called Grap, the grazing regulatory action program. And we actually invited Tam Dudock from the state board to come up here and I organized a field trip and we started in the Belavista Ranch. I had the sheriff talk about all the problems with illegal marijuana grows and pesticides and herbicides getting into the creek. I took him through Palacidro. Anyway, I had the state expert from UC Davis, Kentate who I know come up here. I had the Farm Bureau, the head of public government relations attorney. I had Kirk Wilber from the state California Association, Calamans Association, and I got all the head people. And so if we are to do something like that, we need to get that kind of power team together and to organize it in such a way that it is impactful. I had about 30 people. I had people from Forestry of World. Supervisor Larmer. Or a councilor. I think this needs to be agenda. I see what you're saying. I'm just trying to use an example of what did work. And I want you to know when I went back and I'm shortening it. But when I went back to my next Board of Forestry meeting, the executive director of the Board of Forestry turned to me and says, Mary, what did you do? And so I told him what we did and he says, I've never seen the state of California back off on any kind of a fee or regulation that they were trying to impose and they did and it's gone away and it's never come back. But you have to get organized. You can't just invite one or two people. You've got to have your team behind you. Can we wrap it up if you don't mind? Well, I mean, this is supposed to be agendas and that's why council lawmers have been flashing. Well, you've been talking and talking about it, so I just thought you were able to talk or nobody interrupt to do. Let's have equal treatment here. So that's all I'm saying is that if we're going to do this, we have to do it correctly, and we have to do it in a smart way, and we can't. We have to have our people organized in our, we have to be all working together, I guess is what I'm trying to say. All right. Moving on to R2. Introduce some way of reading of an ordinance of the Board of Supervisors, the county of Shasta adding limitations on the exercise of imminent domain to the Shasta County Charter and adopt a resolution which calls for an election and consolidates it with the November 5th, 2024 general election. This is sponsored by myself. This is somewhat redundant of Prop 99, but I do think it's absolutely imperative that we put as many layers into our charter to protect Shasta County sovereignty and separate ourselves as best as we can, especially as it relates to private property. Stuart Dutel, Deputy CEO, welcome. Good morning, Chairman Kri. Members of the board, Stuart Newtale, Deputy County Executive Officer, as you mentioned. Thank you for that summary. Before you today, for your consideration, is an ordinance to add a provision to the County Charter, adding limitations on the county's ability to exercise eminent domain, as you mentioned. Should the board approve the draft ordinance that is also recommended the Board approve an accompanying resolution which calls for an election and consolidates voter consideration of this addition to the charter with the general election on November 5th 2024. Included in the resolution is the proposed. Yes. May I pause your roll? Sure. Thanks, man. I got to jump back. Supervisor Garmin and Stephanie just wants to make sure protocol wise we're good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So included in the resolution is the proposed ballot language as well as additional guidance to the elections department, county council and the auditor controller, all of which are similar in nature to the process when the prospect of establishing the Chast County Charter was considered by this board and when the last addition to the charter was approved by the board on July 2nd. Additionally, as the board may recall, there are two types of counties recognized by the California Constitution, general law counties and charter counties. Of California's 58 counties, there are currently 14 charter counties making Chast County the 15th effective January 1st, 2025. While the specific structure and content of each county's charter varies substantially, each charter was ratified by voters during an election, adopted in a subsequent calendar year and chapped it by the Secretary of State thereafter. Every charter county throughout California has proposed or adopted a wide variety of amendments to their charter since their respective charter was initially approved by the electorate. I can sure every every charter county throughout California has proposed or adopted a wide variety of amendments to their charters since their respective charter was initially approved by the electorate. Interesting. Thank you. Sure. That was a topic last board meeting. Well, in a summary of those changes as well as a summary table of charter counties throughout California is included in your agenda packet and has been posted publicly. And it is titled the charter county overview. With that, that concludes my presentation and I'm more than happy to answer any questions the board may have at this time. Supervisor Rigger. Yes, I've had some questions and I also in addition had the same question. Why are we getting into imminent domain? Well, so as Supervisor Chair and Crime mentioned, this is a little bit redundant compared to the California Constitution and Prop 99. I think this is a safeguard so that if either of those actions are rescinded by the electorate at any point in the future, then this would become operative and would be in place to protect constituents and private property owners from the county being able to exercise that. Well, you know, and maybe county council hasn't answered to this. We can, we can try and protect eminent domain because, you know, as a land owner, I certainly understand more than probably anyway in this room how important property rights are and people, you know, trying to take over property. But anyway, but if the state steps in, can't they override what we do or how does that work? That's what it charters for. That's why we're doing it. Well, I would really depend on what type of legislation they put in and whether they intended to occupy the field, which is legal terminology. Essentially, our charter would prevent the county from taking private property to hand over to another private owner. It wouldn't necessarily prevent a higher sovereign like the state from taking it. Okay, so that's exactly what I wanted to say. So it's just because I'm aware, just was alerted yesterday to a situation that could have a massive impact on what's going on in terms of something. And I've got to look into it before I talk about it, but do my homework. But it would be something that would impact a thousand landowners. And I can't see where the county could protect them, is the point I'm trying to make. So I'm just trying to figure out exactly how effective this would be is my question. Can I? Supervisor Johnson. Well, Chair, so I'm glad that you brought this up and I'm hoping that you will make the motion. I would like the second to motion. I make a motion, we accept it. All right, and then I'll second it. And this is an ordinance of the Board of Supervisors of the County of Shasta, adding limitations on the exercise of imminent domain to Shasta County Charter. And what this says specifically is that the County may not exercise the power of imminent domain to acquire property from a private owner without the owner's consent when, and this is the important part, the purpose of that acquisition is to convey the property so acquired to any private property. So it still allows the county to be able to use the possibility of imminent domain on road widenings and things like that. And when I was with the city, while we never used imminent domain, we did have to use the threat of imminent domain on a couple occasions. Sometimes referred to as friendly condemnation and various other terms, but it was always for the good of a road widening project and these types of things. So this wouldn't change that, but it would change it if you're trying to acquire property for some other, you know, for a private endeavor. And so, I very much support it and I will be seconded. Thank you, Chair. You bet. Supervisor Garmin. Thank you, Chair. McCry. Questions for Stuart. You mentioned a couple times that every county has proposed or changed their charter after it was approved by the voters. Do you know if that's meant after the charter's actually started in those counties or because ours hasn't begun to be active yet? So I don't have that information readily available, but I did sort of anticipate the question. And the first charter county in California goes all the way back to 1912. So it gets a little questionable as to when they started amending their charter. What I can say is very quickly after a charter was adopted, county started making changes, amendments, and various other things to the extent where I think LA County may hold the record and they've made, I'd want to say, 85 amendments to the charter. 87, thank you, Chair. So maybe it is 85. All right, you okay, check it out. My research says 85. Okay, I would go with that. We split the difference and go with 86. That being said, looking that far back, I didn't go super deep into when they started amending their charter. I will say this board's approach is to get the charter incrementally passed and add pieces to it so that the electorate has the opportunity to vote on individual pieces of the charter. Dingo. The electorate votes. Yeah, I think nobody has a problem with that. I think the problem that I'm having is I feel like we've missed that the voters a little bit. We passed just the charter edition of the start with. We said we're just going to do one thing. We did. One thing. But once it takes place and it's active, then we'll bring it, we'll be making amendments as we move forward. Well, it's not even active yet, and we're already making changes. How many more changes are to come before it becomes active? How many of those voters might have said, and don't thank you, with the changes we're proposing before it's even active? That's my only hold up with this, and I will probably not be supporting it. So what I'd say supervisor garment, you know, all that everybody finished. Supervisor Rigger. Yeah, and I actually agree with supervisor garment and we have not talked about this, but this concerns me that the voters voted for the charter county. They passed it by 55 something percent. But we're changing it before it even becomes active. And so I feel like we are not giving the voters the opportunity if they had this information, it may not have, the result might have been different. So I also will not be supporting this. Supervisor Jones. Yeah, this really should pass a 5-0. The voters are going to overwhelmingly support this. And it's why single issues are the way to go and it's not going to cost the taxpayers any extra. This is the right way to do it. We have an election coming, put it forth. If the public really doesn't like it, they will not support it, but they're going to overwhelmingly support this because it protects private property rights. Anybody that doesn't support this would be foolish. Well, I don't think supervisor Jones is going to pass as high as term limits, because that was like 70-some percent. No, but it'll pass easily. But this will pass over 60 probably. Stewart, you've done great work and in a very short amount of time. Thank you, Chair. I'm still going to, I think you're right with 85. I think, I think, I, all right. So is there any other discussion? discussion. I gotcha. We do have public comment, so we'll jump into that. Jenny, followed by Dolores, followed by Nick Gardner. If you can please come up and dequeue and stay out of the. Okay. So Dolores, come on up. I'm sorry. Mr. Gardner, you'll follow. Seems like I always got to do the dirty work. Come up here and tell you guys what you're doing wrong. For you guys to be making or changing or adding anything to the charter when it's not a charter's county yet, I don't think it's legal. But I know you could, you know, Mr. Kray, you've been laughing and making fun of everybody this morning. Yeah, sure you did. That's your excuse, you're such a liar. Making fun of Mary every time she talks, but you take forever to shut up. But anyways, you can't keep on trying to add and change things, you haven't even, the can's not even a charter for you to add. So I don't think it's legal. You're all off. Actually, we do have two attorneys who are actually working on this charter. Because actually when you guys put this charter together, you actually broke some laws misleading the voters. The voters are aware of what you did because that's why some of the voters do not vote it for this charter. So just so you're aware we are working on this to basically file a false claim act because it is false because you misled the public and you actually are just you, you're basically lying to the public to get what you three bullies are trying to pass and Patrick Jones thinks he's smarter than all of you because he thinks he's been around in politics longer But we know Patrick Jones you're not so you keep on trying to change the county to charter so you could have control Indictate the people more the way you have been. It's pretty sad and pathetic because we already see how you act in front of people. You think charter's gonna give you more power to overpower the people. You are, you think, but see Patrick Jones ain't gonna be here. So we're gonna try to make sure everything that you do, and you're taking advantage of the voters we're gonna overturn. Everything, including your little charter, because actually you misled the people. And it's a false claim back. You know what's a false claim back? If you don't, maybe you could look it up. Thank you, Nick Gardner Welcome, thank you. Hey, I'd like to know something. I know this is a county Ordinance you're trying to pass but this applied to the city of Reading It's the jurisdiction of the county Okay, well that's too bad because the city abuses that a lot and I think this riverfront specific plan is going to wind up there. So about the only thing I would caution you about is government private projects and using that for that. Otherwise, I really don't have a lot to say. I'd like to point out block seven here at the city of Reading where that was a city of Reading K2 McConnell project, partnership. And when I asked Barry Tipman, Tipin, what part of the partnership the city has? Well, not any, really. They just have their name on it. And I support this. Thank you very much for bringing it forward. Jenny? No, okay. So we're going to, no she's right there. All right, so having no other cards, we're going to take a roll call vote. I'm sorry, I see if I was a garment. Thank you, I see Mr. Garmin. Thank you, Chairman Cribe. Before we take the vote, I just want to say one last thing here. In the beginning, when we talked about putting this charter forward, and I voted against it, it wasn't decided that it's against the charter county, the principle of it, it was the timing that it felt rushed to be weren't adding enough items to it. And here's I'm looking down this list or your 85 for Los Angeles County. I see San Bernardino's had 27 amendments since 1912. You know, somebody other counties was 6, 2023, 19, 25. How many are we going to have before it even begins? We're going to take as many as it takes. This is where we should have put it all together in the beginning. We should have taken more time and written it up properly for the voters to completely understand. And I will be voting notes, I think we've rushed it through. I think it's great. Supervisor Ricker. And I just want to add, as we continue to make all these amendments to the original Tartor County that was put before the voters, this is costing staff time. It's costing the county and the taxpayers dollars and we should have gotten it right the first time before we even got this far. And I agree the numbers are not there. The other thing that I've said it before, I realize there's a few small rural counties that are tire counties, but the vast majority of them are big cities like San Francisco and LA County. And so I don't understand why we're doing something that the big cities are doing if we want to remain rural. I would just say I've never seen people so afraid of the electorate making decisions in my life. Supervisor Jones. Yeah, I mean, the way you have a successful charter is you keep it simple. You don't add 10 or 20 things at the beginning. It would have failed easily. That was the whole point of making it very simple and very clear. It was always expected that the public can put things forward to the voters and so could the board. And I expect the people to come forward as well when there is a pressing issue. This specific issue protects private property owners from the government taking property. This is a no-brainer. If you don't support this, I think it's just foolish. That's just political. But that's okay. We'll start with Ms. Blankenship. We'll start with the roll call, though. Start with Supervisor Rickert. Supervisor Rickert? No. Supervisor Kelschrom? Yes. Supervisor Kri? Yes. Supervisor Kelschrom? Yes. Supervisor Kri? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. And Supervisor Garmin? No. Passes, three to two. All right. We're going to move on to R3, discuss a letter to a VALO airlines requesting. And Mr. Buttele, thank you so much. Or Stuart. Mr. Buttele, is your father, right? All right. Requesting the reconsider and continue to provide flights from Reading Regional Airport and consider providing direction to staff. This is sponsored by Supervisor Kelschrim. Supervisor Kelschrim, take it away, sir. Yeah, it was brought to my attention in the end of June actually that Trego Dugan was pulling out of the Reading Airport, pulling out of all the California. And there are the baggage handlers for Avelo Airlines. Avelo Airlines has three flights to Burbank a week. Yesterday they had a hundred and forty passengers on the plane. So we have close to 300 people, three times a week coming in and going out of the running airport on just this one airline. So we're talking 7, 900 people, possibly a week, that this is going to affect that are not going to be flying out of our airline. I reached out immediately to Nigel Skeet who's here today from the Chess County Chamber of Commerce, and then I ended up meeting with Jim Wadley shortly thereafter, who was the former airport manager, he's in attendance today too. I've been working with two individuals from Trego Dugan, Jared, who spoke at the meeting a couple of weeks ago, and Brennan, who I believe is here today speaking on this too. So I just want to do everything in our power. It's not the board's jurisdiction, so to speak. It's a city of writing runs the airport. But we have helped in the past. We put $100,000 forward for a flight to Denver. We've been working with the Shest County Chamber of Commerce. We want to, one of the things I wanted to do by doing the interview with Mike Mangus is, I wanted to change the verbiage, for instance, from the writing to Burbank flight. We would like to start thinking about it to Redding flight. We want to advertise down in Southern California and Burbank, come to Redding and enjoy our national parks, enjoy Wiskitown and Joy, Shestill Lake. And now we're losing 900 potential customers a week that are coming in and out of the airport. So I want to put forward a letter to Avello. I want to promise Avello that this board, the Shest County, would help to support getting another baggage handling contract in place. Two individuals that I've been working with from Trago Dugan are willing to take on that baggage handling contract. If we can somehow entice Avello to come back or come back to writing, they've made the decision. They're pulling out, they're gone for now. But they were making money, it was successful, their flights were full. Avello wants to stay, the city of writing wants them to stay, this board wants them to stay. So I want to work with the city of writing and they're in the process of hiring a new airport manager. I'd like to work with him too, but I want to work with them to do whatever we possibly can to keep a fellow back here in this airport. I mean, we want to expand the airport, we want to expand flights. We want to have more flights. And the last thing in the world we want to do is lose what we already have. So that's why I put this forward, that's why I've been working on this for the last month. Thank you, so we'll jump into public comment, and then we'll bring it back for board discussion. First, I have two, Brennan Bailey, followed by Jim Wadley. Team members of the board, thank you for having me. I know I'm not your typical person that comes before you. My name is Brennan Bailey and I am one of the lead agents at Trago-Duven Aviation, the company that services all of the airlines' ground handling needs from the checking counter to the gate area to loading the bags onto the airplane. We do it all. I'm standing before you because there is a massive need to address ongoing issues at the Reading Regional Airport that the city has refused time and time again to address. Effective August 26th, Avela Airlines will be pulling out of Reading due to no ground handling of availability because our company has decided to pull out of the state of California. However, what the public doesn't know is that Avela actually reached out to city officials to come to a solution, but were only met with voicemail after voicemail, essentially being told to go away. The city is also pushed out the runway, we rehabilitation project. The current status of our runway is poor. And if it were to get inspected, and the status would be would fail, or would fall to failure, all commercial airline usage would come to a screeching halt, and we're pretty sure that Cal Fire engines that fight the wildfires near and far would also be unable to use the runway as well. This project is an essential upgrade in keeping this airport in good standing, but the city rather push out the project and reallocate funds due to rising inflation. This airport, an airport that is of the people, by the people, and for the people should not just be a privilege for the wealthy and higher class to fly out of redding, but a privilege for all who live in this city in the Greater Shasta County region. So I as an employee about to be terminated due to the city's inability to manage our airport and maintain airline relations. And as a humble middle class citizen of this county, along with my colleague Jared Colver, volunteer to take over Trago Duane's contract. And I urge this board to take action so that all can partake in the use of this airport. Sue, vice your culture. Thank you, Brennan. And it's nice to see the face that I've been talking to on the phone. So, pleasure to meet you. One thing I did reach out to our fire chief, as Brennan just said, right now our runway is considered poor. It's rated poor by the FAA. The next step down is failed and like Brennan just said, if it reaches failed, no commercial flights fly in and out of writing at all. I mean, the whole airport shut down. We have nothing. We're not going to just lose a vello if it goes down to poor. It was supposed to be repaid this October. It's been pushed off now. Now 2025 is when they're looking to repave it again. I did reach out to our fire chief, Sean O'Hara, as well as a fire marshal still be used by Cal Fire. Obviously, it's not something they would prefer, but it can be still used by Cal Fire. So we will probably still have firefighting if it's rated failed, but we will have no airlines going in and are out of writing. Thank you. Next speaker, final card I have is Jim Wadley. Honorable Chair and members of the board, my name is Jim Wadley. I am the former reports manager for the city of Reading. I'm actually here to talk about the next item but the Holy Spirit mood me and I have some notes that I'm going to read from some part of my delays here. But I'm not here to knock anybody down. I'm actually here to help people stand up. So from my perspective, from somebody that was steer in the ship, I do know that I know all the circumstances of a velo, I landed a velo. I actually have some advice and recommendations for the county. I'm actually glad that this is being discussed because there's a number of businesses and entities at the airport that actually want to see their leaders involved. And there's not enough leaders actually showing up at the airport asking the businesses what's important to you, what threatens your services and what threatens your very existence. So I can tell you right now that there's action needed, and I do think that the county and the city can bridge a gap here and work together. But I will be back in the next item to give some more advice on that. But if you need some of my recommendations on that letter, I'm happy to give to you so that you can make your decision. Thank you very much. Jim Hainte, there. I have a question for you. Super Garmin. You were a great airport manager. I wish you were still there. I think we all do. But I have a question. Now that a Velo's got an end date, can we stop that? I mean, in your estimation, you've worked with the Velo. You understand the better than any of us. Is this a done deal? We need to try to keep them. We know all the airlines we can get. So I have relationships with- What are we up against? Yes, what I'm asking you. Right, so I will tell you that this was something that could have been avoided. There has not been an airport manager for the past seven months. There's a lot involved with managing an airport daily and air service is just one piece of that. But I did reach out all the way to the CEO after I was contacted and I know that some statements that have been made by numerous people there that if I was still there I would have found a way. And that this would never would have happened and that's true because I work day and night to keep and support our businesses there. I know what's important to them. I know there's struggles. And Avello, they have things that are important to them. And I'll be happy to share that with your representative. If they want to reach out to me, I can tell you what's important to them. But I do think that this could have been avoided. And I do believe that there is some action needed now to actually stop a trend and We need to reverse this and so just stop the trend so we can't necessarily stop of it. It's gonna go no matter what At this time they have made a decision to move on It doesn't mean that it can't be reversed. They can be enticed. There's a Initiatives that we can do to incentives that we can offer and I know that they would listen. When faster we move this direction, the faster we'd probably get them back. Yes, supervisor Keltstrom. Yeah, like I said, I had lunch with Mayor Audette last Friday, I believe it was. So I got her perspective on this whole thing and the city's outlook on this. The one thing she brought up to me was, what about the other flights? What about, so if we were to entice a fellow back here with the baggage handling for this particular airport, would they come back? She kind of made it seem like they wouldn't come back just for one airport. They wouldn't come back for just the three flights they have. I mean. If I can speak. I can tell you that the redding was not the worst market they have. It wasn't the best. It was right in there where they stayed with the redding. There are things that we can do that they've been asking us to do, which involved marketing. And I do believe that we are not doing enough marketing for the outer cities and counties around the airport, the region, if you will. And we're focusing, we have focused too much on just the city of Reading and the population here. So there are things that, what's important to them is brand awareness. And we need to get that marketing out there. We need to keep reminding people that all of the services that are at the airport, because we need repeat customers. We need to continually remind seasonally everything that is there and the air service will be there so long as people use it. So it is something that we need to stay on top of. And the Velo is the largest airplane that comes in and out of the redding area right now. I mean, there's 737, like I said yesterday, 148 people on that plane. I don't know how many came in, but 148 people went out. Well, I think there's been a number of occasions where when you see these overlapping flights and the amount of people that come into the airport, it's important that we are doing the proper steps to keep pace with the demands. And also keeping those relationships ongoing with these airlines. Now there's been a little bit of, in my opinion, my perspective. Hey, Jim, some absence. Jim, I'm sorry to cut you off. We have to cut this because of just making sure we stay within the agenda item. Okay, yes, thank you. Okay, we're bringing it back for board discussion, and I will say just from what's been mentioned with supervisor Garmin, I know supervisor Kelser and myself, Jones about the chamber. I think anything we do in terms of marketing, we're wasting money if we're going to let our greatest assets and the airport and things like that be gone. So, supervisor Kelser. So I'll make a motion to approve the sending this letter. I'll second it. All right, we'll go ahead and take a roll call vote. I suppose, starting with Supervisor Garmin. Is there any other discussion? Nope, okay, Supervisor Garmin. Supervisor Garmin? Yes. All right, let me get my mic on. Supervisor Garmin? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. Supervisor Kellsdrup and Supervisor Ricardia. Five-o. All right. Moving on to R4. Consider approving a letter to the City of Reading Council. Encouraging the City to form a joint powers authority to garner greater community input and feedback from other local stakeholders regarding management of the Reading Regional Airport and services provided therein. This was sponsored as well by Supervisor, Calstrom, Supervisor, Calstrom, Mike Sears. All right, yeah, and this is something that, you know, again, we put the $100,000 in to get the Denver flight. I want to put another $100,000 forward to get a baggage handling contract and counter contract so that we can try to entice a fellow back. And again, I had a lunch with Mayor of that. I don't want to work against the city by any means. I want to work with the city. I would like this board and this county to work with the city of Reading. It would be nice to have a seat at the table though. I mean, if we're putting up funds, it would sure be nice to have some input in a seat at the table. So one way to do that would be to form a joint power authority, where we would have a couple members of this board or a couple members of the county represented on the board, a couple members of the city represented on the board, and then possibly other stakeholders such as city Vanderson or city of Shastolake, possibly even the EDC or the Chamber of Commerce or whatever. But we would like to have a joint powers authority on that airport and make it kind of a Shasta regional airport, so to speak, to where we have a seat at the table and we have some control over what goes on there and some input into it. Thank you, supervisor Kelsen. Before we get to more discussion, we'll have four speakers. Brennan Bailey, followed by Teresa Roberts, followed by Jim Wadley, followed by Max Walter. Yeah, so the problem the airport is facing is that it simply cannot be run on the backs of a couple individuals and that the current status quo is failing. We must learn to adapt or else the airport will fail. So as the Professor of Agriculture said, we're proposing a joint oversight board that oversees all operations and management at the airport. This board could sit four elected officials to from the city to from the county. I would say representative from each airline. A current airport executive that works there, but also a private citizen who can be independent and act as a moderator, who also has current knowledge of this knowledge and state of airport affairs, but also have no political ties to the city or the county. This board will oversee management, airline and public relations, operations, marketing and sales. esteemed members of the board, to the city officials that may be listening, and the public, the first step in solving a problem is recognizing there is one. And the problem is the airport is failing. But we can all come together, and I believe we can make some of the most incredible and meaningful change this airport will ever see. But that only that does require all of us coming together. So thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Teresa Roberts, pass Jim Wadley and Max Walter will follow Mr. Wadley. Hello again. So I'm actually really glad that this topic is being discussed. Again, from somebody that was steer in the ship there, I can tell you that an airport authority would be the ultimate scenario for an airport, a passenger service airport. Airports need to move at a fast pace and there's probably no better way to do that. I would compete a lot of times with other city business matters and things we had opportunities missed. And that's kind of the issue is that there's an issue of resources, there's an issue of keeping pace. There's an issue of opportunities missed where you do need to move fast. Having an authority is not, like I don't see this as a county trying to come in and take over an airport, it's not how this is going to work. What it's going to do is it's going to involve the county and the city, both together, as partners. And then whoever else that is decided upon, but I can tell you from my perspective that an effort like this is actually very deserving. It was actually brought up first by the City Manager's office when they had a representative come to me and asked me about an airport authority and I said, it's a great idea, but the city will never go for it. And I was at the time pushing an airport advisory, actually an airport commission, because we used to have a commission there. And it was decommissioned because there were too many commissions. But we're getting, the airport was getting busy again. It needed to have some leadership, some initiatives that were not the airport manager. You know, I'm supposed, you know, when I was there, I was supposed to be going after those initiatives and not just coming up with them. It's not my airport as I would say. It's the community's airport. And so we ended up doing the airport strategic plan and I think that was an important step. But as far as this coming back full circle on somebody as large as a fellow leaving, it's a little bit of a wake up call and I do think that this is deserving to talk about because many hands make light work and when you have all the resources and you have You know these partnerships you can do more and I can tell you right now the airport can be greater if you look at Medford it's a very similar metropolitan statistical area they have 18 flights a day So you know, I just wanted to say that You know this is I'm glad this is being discussed they have 18 flights a day. So, I just wanted to say that, I'm glad this is being discussed. This is probably gonna be the first time and there's gonna be more to talk about, but I do pray that God Almighty blesses you all, and I hope that he opens new doors for the county and the city. Thank you. Sue, was your classroom? Yeah, and again, with Mayor Ardette talking to her that he opens new doors for the county and the city. Thank you. Sue Bezier-Caltron? Yeah, and again, with Mayor Ardette talking to her and you're right, and nobody wants to give up power, but she actually was pretty positive to the whole idea. I mean, she, you know, like she said, I mean, we want to work together. She obviously doesn't speak for the entire council, but I mean, she did seem to be positive, that it was a positive thing that we wanted to work with them. Especially since we would be willing to pony up some capital. Sue Roger-Rickard. Yes, and I also, I'm very good friends with Tinesa, so I've had two or three conversations with her about this. Oops. And as far as our force concern, anyone officially gone in and talked to Barry Tippen before we send a letter. I think probably just sending a letter might not be a little presumptuous, a little premature. I think we ought to probably kind of test the waters first and I would recommend doing that. That's just my suggestion. And the other thing is I wanted to point out is the airport is in the city limits. And we just have to be a little bit sensitive to that. If we want to continue to get along with the city, we don't want to overstep our bounds. And if the airport was in the county and the city, you kind of put yourself in the other person's shoes, if the city came in, they said they wanted to start, you know, have an equal authority or whatever jurisdiction over something that was in the county, we might kind of balk a little bit. So I think we need to handle this delicately and with professionalism and with sensitivity. And so I just wondered, CEO Rickert, have you had any conversations with Mr. Tipin on this subject? One second. Councillor Larmord, we have to finish public comment before we bring it back to board discussion. Yes, before board discussion. I didn't know there wasn't. So yeah, well, so Max Walter, thank you for your patience. CEO Rickert will start with you when we come back to follow up with that. Okay. Thank you for your patience. CEO Rickert will start with you when we come back to follow up with that. Okay. Thank you for your patience. Good morning. I'm just confused. Why is there so much emphasis on a one-way ticket to Denver? What is it about that that we're spending $100,000 of taxpayer money on? I don't understand that at all. I know James Dobson has a ministry in Colorado Springs. $1,000 of taxpayer money on. I don't understand that at all. I know James Dobson has a ministry in Colorado Springs. Is that what it is? Why do you want to spend money to go one way? This is about the joint powers authority for the airport. So it's not about specific. It's about that item. What's about spending $100,000 for that, right? No, it's not. Oh, consider a premium letter to the city of writing, encouraging the city to form a joint power. I have a state. Okay, bring it back for board discussion. CEO Ricker. Okay, thank you, Chairman Crye. Cancer, a supervisor, Rickert's question. I've had multiple discussions with Mr. Tipin regarding this and he even got some suggestions on how we can make that letter more presentable and friendly. We do now want to step on toes obviously, but this is just simply a request to consider the opportunity to bring other partners and stakeholders into the discussion so we can help and support the airport, which we all agree we should do. In addition to that, we've had a very successful model for an airport authority in my prior county. I sent you all email packets with multiple information on that and how that potential structure could look. And we all acknowledge that this is a city of writing issue, but it's something I think we would hope that they would consider their other stakeholders. And like I say, we're kind of in the subservient role here and I think that we need to kind of make sure that we're not stepping on toes or we're kind of causing any problems and jeopardizing our relationship with the city. So that's my only comment. I don't think that's a problem as long as the city is aware that this is coming Miss Audette and my conversations with her was kind of concerned about It being a little too premature. So that's all. So you're going to go on. Thank you, Chairman. Craig, I addressed Max's comment with the one way ticket to Denver. That we did previously approve $100,000 to the city ready to go towards flights to Denver. Those were round trip flights. It wasn't just one way. There was an original something posted on one of our agenda's mentioned being one way, but it was not. Just so you're clear with that. And then Silver Verizon, Carlson, did mention in just a couple of minutes ago at the beginning of this item, he liked to put another $100,000 to entice and bail to come back into their baggage claims if I heard that correctly, Silver Verizon, Carlson. Which would have to be another time and other days, I don't see this in our agenda, but that's definitely a conversation that we need to have. And I would support, what are we going to do to keep these airports here? It's in the letter. Three years or $100,000, it's in the letter. It was in the packet. I'll come back to me. Sue, Regent Kelser? Yeah, I just want to make a motion to approve this letter. And again, we are not stepping on toes. We are not working against the city of Reading. Anyway, we want to work with the city of Reading. So I want to make that very clear. We would just like a seat at the table, we'd like some say and some of the things that go on there if we can find a way to do that. This letter opens up door for those discussions. I'll second it. Supervisor Jones. Yeah, and so I was at the city for eight years and to be honest, the city looked at their ports as as a little bit of a liability. I don't think they're going to have any trouble at all having the county come and help in certain manners. In fact I think they'll appreciate that. The county has never offered that before but I think it's a very good idea and I think they should jump at this chance and I think they will. So I think it's a good idea idea and I think they should jump at this chance and I think they will. So I think it's a good idea. Supervisor Rickard. Yes, I just have a quick question. Where does this $100,000 come from? Is it General Fund money? See your record, do you know? Again, I'm always- We would have to, if there's a spending initiative associated later, we would have to put that in front of the board for consideration for funding. But where would it most logically come from? We would do that at that time. We would then apply a funding source for the board's consideration. Okay, I just always concerned about general fund money. There's also 1.2 million actually TOT tax that's out there that we hasn't been allocated properly. Supervisor Garmin. Thank you, Chairman. Supervisor Krossin, we talk about the letters addressed Dear Mayor Audit and Redding City Council. I believe so, yeah. Okay, what I see here is a disaster county is fully committed to this endeavor, showing by our recent pleasure of $100,000 toward a revenue agreement established in an eastbound flight to the airport. I assume that was a flight to ready. The letter two of L.O. R3 letter two of L.O. That's where we say that we would be willing to back three years or the fees or up to $100,000. Now, my understanding right now the fees are $18,000 a year for the counter fees and the baggage handling fees, which is ridiculous amount. This letter to R3? Yes. Any more on R4? Yeah, we're on R4. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no other, yeah, and I'll support this again because, and I have a little bit more knowledge in just in terms of the trajectory of the airport and Mr. Wadley's time there and working very closely with Councilman Mazzano. So, instead of us doing a rule call, we'll start to my right this time with Supervisor Garmin. Supervisor Garmin? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. Supervisor Cri? Yes. Supervisor Kielstrand? Yes. And Supervisor Ritchard? Yes. Five votevisor Rickard. Yes. Five-o. All right. Moving on, we have our five that is slated to be a presentation at our 30, not our 30, at 1130. So we are going to take public comment, and I'm okay with that. Miss Blankenship, correct? Yes, Chair. Okay, and so we will take that up until approximately 1130, Dr. Laura Hobbs, Max Walter, Margaret Hanson. Do not see Laura, so Max, come on up. Margaret, if you can get in cue, Lacey will follow Margaret. Is there a Lacey? Yes. Well, I'm here for Judy Minor, and also to say that because of this behavior of yours, Kevin, to almost automatically belittle and smear anyone who opposes you, it would cause an honorable man to resign. You said with four meetings with Judith, we're all, quote, filled with lies, unquote. It's such a smear. Judy Minore, I've gotten a knower pretty well. She arranged for me a meal train for 30 days while I had my Achilles tendon surgery. You have no idea what that kindness meant to me. You're like the high school bully who bullies the librarian who's been there for 50 years helping people. It's shameless. I feel sorry for you. You be smirched yourself again just like with the woman you fat-shamed here publicly and never sought her out afterwards. And just like the last year for the four or five months, you are up and down the valley, telling people in the towns how the recall group was opposed to your faith. We were opposed to your family. We were opposed to your country. You were teaching them bigotry and hate for their own communities. Same smears as with Judy. These statements are extraordinarily dishonorable. And each time I confronted you about them at this podium, you were always quiet as a church mouse about smearing us. You kept telling people that our group was opposed to your faith. That might be immoral to say that. that we were opposed to your country. You should immediately apologize to all of our veterans for that rage of statement. That's just messed up. And you never took any of it back ever once. That's what's most messed up in your soul. And now Judy Minor, these are all stupid and outrageous statements. You have a vindictiveness that pushes us all away from each other. You are a divider, a plain and simple, and that's been your record since your first official act, creating division and ranker through defamation and disrespect. You know, you always have had the opportunities for grace, but you never take them. Nothing gets through your armor. Instead, you seem to be believing your own lies and half lies. Your narcissism is ugly. So what I'm saying is, these are the reasons you shouldn't be in public office. You should resign immediately. See what happened was you ended up following the wrong sense of duty. You chose the wrong one. And when you smear broad numbers of people in the community over a period of time, you do a reprehensible disservice to that entire community. You provoke, you smear, Margaret Hanson, followed by Lacey, followed by James. Welcome. Thank you. I wanted to bring up a subject that is quite disturbing in this county. I know it's in many counties and in our country, but it has to do with domestic violence. And we have some issues here and they need to be addressed. A person charged with domestic violence was charged and then the case in court was timed out for lack of judges. Then charged again, and the case timed out again due to lack of judges, and can never be prosecuted again. That disturbs me, that that is going on. There's a lot of concern about this, and with the disappearance of the mother of four, Nikki Chang, Sayley, and Kane, who is missing since May, I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that I'm sorry to have to say that she's missing. This is a major concern and we are going to, it looks like we're going backwards for the protection of people who have suffered abuse and suffered it horribly. Another issue is that we're, Governor Newsom has issued orders again, causing parents and school boards to have to follow his dictates, and I'm not into that either. Anyway, but the domestic violence issue has to be dealt with. The lack of judges has to be dealt with, but he appointed two judges here. And so what's going on with that? Did other judges leave? That's my question. Anyway, thank you for addressing this. Thank you. Lacey, followed by James, followed by Monique Williams. Good morning, Board and fellow county residents. My name is Lacey and my husband's name is James. We are children, parent, and family rights activists. I'd like to bring to your attention two recent incidents. The first incident, a parent was found passed out and drugged out state in a car with, and a drugged out state in their car, center console with a child in the back seat in a parking lot. The police arrested her and the DA prosecuted her. And another incident earlier this year, a 911 call captured a child screaming for help. When RPD arrived, they found underage children drinking in a deplorable condition while drugs in alcohol provided by a parent who was partying with them. The parent passed out twice and went awakened, went into a drunken rage, strangling a minor child by the neck while the other child called 911. This act alone violated multiple sections under California Pino Code 273. My question is, why is RPD and Health and Human Services not recommending charges to the DA over the second incident. And Mr. LeMore, why are attorneys in your office and social workers with H-H-S-A supporting children being returned to parents who are physically abusing and providing drugs at an alcohol to minors. Thank you. Thank you. James followed by Monique Wolleen followed by Beth. At the beginning of the meeting, Mr. Garmin, you said that there was some staffing issues. Mr. Cry, you elaborated that there was games being played in the county. Well, there's a lot going on here. I started to speech and then ended up rewriting part of it and changing it up on learning a few things. On C8, you guys are requesting that Lea Tate do social work for the county. I've actually read reports where Lea Tate has recommended children being returned back to families that have been, parents that have been abusive. I've actually read the reports. I can't go into detail due to hippo laws and well, I've been threatened because of releasing information. But I want to go into a little bit about what's going on here. We have a problem with the Social Security Act Title IV, Part D, Section 458, and Part part E section 473. Money from the struggling social security system ends up paying administrators and foster care providers, but also judges, visitation supervisors, evaluators, therapists, lawyers, mediators, and a slew of other professionals. This creates an economic dependency on the CPS system. There is a significant issue within our courts and DA office here in Shasta County. For instance, Judge Bachman, one day in court said to our DA, family court is a briar patch that I have artfully dodged for the last 25 years. I actually have this in a certified transcript. Additionally, three other judges have reportedly given children to physically abuse of parents. One case that stands out involves three judges who were warned about a parent documented drug use, yet still awards custody to that parent. Tragically, while under the influence, this parent lost the child and the parent got into the car to look for the child in a drunken state and ran over the child. After judges ignored the warnings. These three judges are Molly Bigelow, Gary Gibson and Darryl Kennedy. Darryl Kennedy I believe has already moved on. This act alone goes against the welfare and institute code that they are enforced to uphold. I would ask that the last two remaining judges involved in this case step from the bench. Furthermore, court mediators and social workers sometimes exaggerate these issues. Court mediator William Bill Beckley once stated, I can make parents go away if I want to. Social workers have been caught blatantly falsely, blatantly making fault. That's your three minutes. If you have any documentation you wanna leave, please leave it with the clerk. I appreciate that. Monique Wolleen, Bev. Followed by Laurie Bridgeford. Good morning, board. Hello, fellow constituents. My name is Monique Wolleen. My goodness, that gentleman is tall. How do I go down? All right, so this morning I was looking at the news and on the news that I was watching, it stated that Governor Gavin Newsom passed Assembly Bill 1955. And immediately my heart sank. It's a bill where basically it prohibits schools from informing parents if their children want to be seen as a different gender. Now hear me out. I don't think like you guys all the time, meaning I am a Republican, but I am an individual who believes in inclusivity. And the last thing I will ever want is to a child for a child to feel so alone that they've got nobody to talk to when they're struggling with their own identity. Believe me, I know, because I myself have dysmorphic issues. Case in point, there was an article that I read that said teens feel less emotional support than their parents think they do, a new report shows. So we have a real big issue with how parents think they're raising children and how children are receiving being raised by their parents. Overall, 93% of parents thought their children always or usually had the social and emotional support they needed. But only 59% of the teens felt that to be true. So what I'm trying to advise is, I don't know why, but my mind always goes back to Adam and Eve. Eve had no helper assistance when she was raising her children. And then, of course, we had the cane enabled the buckle. My point I'm trying to make is there are other things that we should be doing rather than passing an assembly bill to interfere between a parent and a child in trying to figure out the schism or schism the child is going through because the child is confused with life. My point being is we should do other things before we do the assembly bill. You all remember what happened with the pandemic. Everything got locked down. Children were told they couldn't go to school. They had a lot of issues where children had to stay at home and whatnot. And now we find that a lot of kids are struggling with their mental health, and they're struggling because they're behind the eight ball when it comes to education. And I just saw an article where the governor has okayed a $2 billion to help because we are behind the eight ball. I'm telling you, humanity, we are fallible and this law is, it's a bad law for parents to have a better relationship with their children. Something needs to be said or done. Somebody needs to write something. Gavin Newsom constantly puts his hands in the relationship between a parent and a child and makes it worse. We're not going to see the issues now. What we're going to see is the issues in the future. I want, I am, I'm inclusive. I want everybody to have a seat at the table. I would never tell somebody they're not welcome. My point being is this law is bad for everybody. Bev, followed by Laurie Bridgeford, followed by Benjamin. If you don't know, there was an attempted assassination on President Trump's Saturday. It was not an incident and he did not slip at fall. He was shot. This is a sample of how our media, both local and nationally is lying to us or giving us partial truths, which is still a lie. This is a problem. This is why some people believe there's nothing wrong with our elections. They do not see the intent behind the laws being passed just to make it easier to cheat. We need people to vote at the precinct, the day of the election, milling ballots, open up the possibility of fraud. I know it's convenient to drop off your ballot that what is more important to you, the ease of voting or keeping our freedom to vote in every valid vote counting. Get rid of the drop boxes. We need to get rid of, we need to get rid of the drop boxes. We need to get rid of the drop boxes. We need to be able to observe our elections where we can actually see the ballots. We need to get rid of anything that can be connected to the internet. We need to use paper, poll books and get rid of the election poll pads. When you make a purchase, you have to sign electronically. That signature varies from machine to machine that you're signing on. So how can we possibly use that to validate someone's signature? And as far as the American Bar Association, check it out. Not every award is something to be proud of. Thank you. Lori Bridgeford, followed by Benjamin. Is there a Benjamin here? Not C1 Jenny. Do not see Jenny, followed by David Halligan after Miss Bridgeford. Thank you for your patience. Hey, good morning Chair and Board. I'm very grateful to see that today we have not just two, but three security people installed to help with the security because whoever helped do that, thank you, because our nation is under a great amount of uncertainty, fear, panic, and this is when we get the deep state opportunities that will act out, maybe commit a false flag. And you just never know. I'm talking about pure, core evil of some people versus just the people that you don't get along with and you want the uni party to kind of go, let's just cross divide and handshake and all the rest. I'm talking about the small amount but very impactful people. So with that said, I want to say that the comment was made about getting the Unsung Heroes Award from Kathy Darling Ellen. I was completely yelled at for just simply voting and that is against the law and there's a video on that. So I'm not exactly a high five in this award from the task force of the American Bar Association. She got one of five or awarded this. So I'm completely disturbed and upset that she's getting any recognition for her horrid conduct. It's outrageous. The next thing is Supervisor Garmin, if you're going to be proposing someone be in the election committee, why would you pick, and this is back to wanting to be of good faith and being honorable in respect, but why would you select anybody that clearly wants to destroy it, slam it, ruin it, grind it to the ground, and all the rest. That's not helpful, that's spiteful, that's evil, that's rude, that's disgusting. So I don't see it listed on today's agenda, but if it's on the next one, please reconsider people that you're appointing, because they're just going to be mini-me, 2.0. And we're not going to get any farther. If our nation's going to start to implode quicker, don't you think it's a wise time for this board to plan for when it hits the fan, when the grid goes down, hospitals won't be available, the roads are blowing up. What happens if this retaliation hits the Jewish synagogues or the black churches and they get blown up and they'll blame. All seats, all the mega-Trump people. I'm not a Trump person, but which places are there left? It's all selection. It's been smoked in mirrors for decades. I'd like to say something about what I see happen at the board in some of the other meetings. I wish more people new grief is not separate from trauma. With every loss, change, or a transition, there's always grief. So with my last 30 seconds, I would ask people to go look at GAB, put something out today that we can't unite with evil. And there are, like I said earlier, there's just unbelievable forces that play good and evil. And they're calling people the Nazis or the racists or the terrorists or this and that. We're not going to get very far at all when the power grid is gone and we don't have communication. What's our plan? Thank you. David Halligan, followed by Larry S, followed by Teresa Roberts. Good morning, Board. Last week on the consent calendar, items that are expected to be routine and non-controversial, C6 was anything but that. Mr. Jones, Mr. Crye pushed that down to the end of the day, reappointing general members to the public health advisory board. There were five people up for reappointments, four were approved. Judy Minor didn't get approved. Judy Minor, a 77 year old woman who has dedicated her life to public service. The three of you didn't even know how long she had served on the health advisory board. Eight plus years, which is more than the three of you combined in your tenure on this board. Kevin, you perceived in justice, you felt a strong need to show that you were in control and you would punish the 77-year-old woman volunteer, Judy Minor, for her efforts on your recall. Kevin, do you really think that the health Advisory Board and this county are better off now without Judy Minor on the Advisory Board? And Kevin, the Christian man that you say you are from the Bible, Romans 12, 19, God tells us to never take revenge to leave it to the Lord. God is the ultimate judge. And when we seek revenge, we are taking his place. Kevin, are you taking the Lord's place with your revenge here? Revenge doesn't offer closure, seeking revenge leads to making things worse. It's like pouring fuel on the fire and drives a wedge for further among some of us here in the community. I want to play an audio clip from Kevin's broadcast on Sunday where he speaks about getting people involved. I think what you've true to the forefront is all we can really do. As you listen to this, think about getting involved on a board or with a group that you identify with. And I'm not even saying that people that align with me politically, but you get involved, make a difference peacefully. Do it peacefully, do it respectfully, and I can hold myself to task at times for breaking down and not always being at my best, because I can improve and I can admit that. Kind of ironic, Kevin, asking people to get involved and then you take off the woman that had eight years on the health board. Was Judy Minor making a difference on the board? You don't even know because you didn't ask because you didn't care. Kevin, I truly believe in your heart and your soul. You know you made a mistake with this mean spirit decision. The question is now, can you improve like you say you can, like on your radio show? Will you write it? Will you fix it? Kevin, will you? Thank you. So I will respond. Just the thing about when it comes to public health, and anybody making any decisions for anything. If it's not rooted in what I believe are the principles that guide what a person in terms of public health, how they defend children, how they act towards children, how they believe a person's life should be lived, in terms of health and words. And you're going to see there's other people coming with different backgrounds in C4 today. Of course, Supervisor Rickard pulled that and we will discuss that. Thank you. I appreciate you're coming in. Larry S. Teresa Roberts, Dolores. And thank you for being a listener. Morning, Board. Since it was alluded to already a few times, I just want to say that while I find Mr. Trump anathema to my own personal politics, I find it despicable that somebody would have attempted to take his life under any circumstances. And because that assassin is dead, we'll probably never know that through modif, as to why a young conservative Republican would attempt something like that. That being said, I pray for Mr. Trump all the time. And I pray for him in such a way that he would basically redeem himself of his sinful life, except Jesus Christ as Savior, be baptized for the remission of those sins, and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit and live a true Christian life. That being said, I think the device in nature that this board has taken over the last few years has given evidence to the fact to me anyway that you fall in prey to this cult of personality on the far right. Through your election denialism and the way you did the Dominion voting machine. Your actions during the COVID pandemic and how you felt about that. Your support of a man who basically instigated revolution against the United States of America on January 6th. And then your installation of a person who's going to follow your agenda on the register of the board, the vote, the voting registration in Chester County. He'll follow your agenda. All that being said, I think I need to throw down the gauntlet on a new threat to this board. It's a threat that's already caused the City Council of Redding to be dominated. And with new blood coming onto this board soon, I'm going to be paying attention to whether or not this threat raises its head with this board of supervisors. And quite simply put, it's a threat of a false apostle and false prophet of a false church that preaches a false gospel in Reddit. While it's hell bent on pursuing a cult mysticism, and that has already dominated the City Council. I hope that this board will not let that dominate this board of directors. Thank you. Teresa Roberts followed by Dolores and I think Supervisor Keltchum said Jenny came back in and I didn, there she is right there. So Jenny, you will follow Dolores. So if you want to start making your way. Hi, I just wanted to thank you guys for supporting ILA. That was a great community, that was awesome. That was sold out. So I was really proud of that. Garmin, I don't know if you've been out there in Kesswick, but it's taken five years and the junk yards are huge. What are you going to do about it? Huge. So that kind of needs to be dealt with. When it comes to this so-called cultult that you so, you know, you follow Kevin, I follow it too. But here's the reality. This man that is now going to hopefully be our president, he was loved, he was adored in the 80s, even up into the 90s. He was adored by all that was evil until he woke up and realized, you know what, this is not a plan he wanted to have for his country. So he stepped out and then all of a sudden he was hated and abhorred by all that was evil. And then they tried to impeach him. And then they tried to bankrupt him. And then they tried to jail him. And then they tried to kill him. They missed. They failed. They failed. Dismissed and missed. So you guys can think all you want. They failed dismissed and missed So you guys can think all you want but the reality of it is there's divine appointment Hey Teresa Supervisor Garmin. Did you see me an email? Only addresses of the junk yards out there you drive down iron mountain road. you'll see them. You can't miss them, they're right there. Okay, some of those, there's, send me an email, I'll communicate with you via what's going on with some of those. There's stuff that's happening with some of those, okay? Okay. Thank you. Jenny, I'm sorry, Dolores, then Jenny. Patrick Jones, you'd like to give advice. You'd like to think you know what's best for the people, but you don't. You know, you actually destroyed a document from the attorney general in that letter was drafted by Sean Northstrom, even though you guys didn't mention it. And Zine, your attorney who represents you. And I got that information from someone of one of your people. Actually, I know it's 100% true. And Patrick Jones, you were on the council for eight years, but you didn't do nothing. All you did, it was make sure you got on the council because your goal was to try to make sure you focus on the shooting range. That's all that's all you want it and that's all you're gonna be focusing and that's all you're gonna try to go out with because it ain't gonna happen because like I said you don't you guys have been breaking so many laws. It's so hard to keep up but I'm been catching up. Just so you know, the citizens who actually changing the subject, the citizens who actually file over 200 people signatures regarding, reporting what the border supervisors did to Joanna regarding the interview. Make sure you guys file the complaint because we need to get that going. I file my complaint, I file what a lot exhibits because they did break labor laws because Joanna is an employee. So therefore when she came up here to be interviewed, you actually mistreated her, you violated her rights and you actually discriminated her. She was, she is an employee. So it's not like she was an interview and she was not part of the county. So therefore you violated multiple laws. Just so you're aware of that. Also, just so you know, you actually voted last meeting to have CACOBI to be part of the health and safe of health and HHS whatever, advisor. You know that they're actually under investigation. I received the letter in June 3rd, 2024. I received a letter to report the criminal activity that's happening in the Chamber of Commerce. So if I have those you guys, you talked about the Chamber getting them to join you guys. I recommend that you be careful because there is a letter from the Attorney General that I receive that they're for me to report the criminal activity, which is a conflict of interest, and actually the criminal activity, as you all know, Janice Powell is actually the mayor actually is holding a second position in the Chamber of Commerce, when she approves their own funding to go to the Chamber of Commerce. That's prohibit. That's criminal. So also I reported her to the FBI, I get my receipts from the FBI. They take the case, they put their name, so there are under investigation. So I'm just letting you know, quite a few people are under investigation and I have been doing a good job because I do get a response now from the Attorney General and the FBI. Thank you. Jenny. Thank you for your patience with me today. So I read the board packet on C2 because public comment and consent are the same, right? I just wanted to make sure. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Okay, so after reading the packet, I was a little confused because I thought that this was about doing voting instead of appointment, but it says, or rather than rather. So like it says, or we will elect or go to an appointment. And I was a little confused by that because I thought you guys wanted like all the appointments to be elections because Like we've seen all the craziness in this room where people get really upset by whoever gets appointed whether it be our sheriff or our OV People seem to have very strong opinions and feel they got cheated out of something. So I just thought we were going to election. But luckily I found the ordinances also written to state that you can strike parts out and keep the rest of it intact. So while I realized that elections cost money, I was hoping maybe you would strike that little or out and put rather than because then Elections cost money. I was hoping maybe you would strike that little or out and put rather be Rather than because then it would go to the people because that's you know what most of the complaints are these days Thank you. I don't mind that we edit those That we edit our our trier because you know, it's okay that we Learn and grow like there's nothing wrong with that but that was just my opinion. Thank you. Thank you Jenny. Bring it back to board discussion. Well no not board discussion sorry since you finished with C2 and I was looking at it but we are not to that. So we're wrapping up public comment. That is the last card I have. Miss blanking ship at this time, I know we have 1130 as our presentation. We are roughly 24 to 25 minutes from that. Can we go to? Can we take? Do we have any comment cards for closed session? Chair, we don't have any comment cards for closed session at this time. I would just want to mention that we do have a couple public comments, cards that were received for open time that will take at the end once all regular calendar items have been considered. So I wanted to make sure we point that out so those in the audience who submitted those know. But I would recommend going to two different things. We can either take a short recess until 1130, or we could go into item R7. We will go into item R7. Can I make that decision? All right, so we're going to go into, we're going to plow forward. R7, discuss an audit and efficiency review of cost plan charges as budgeted for fiscal years 2223 through 2425 and consider providing direction to staff. This is sponsored by myself as we went through the budget, the budget cost plan and I have been asked by staff as well as department heads to not really bring a lot of what I found and information forward until we get to a more definitive spot. Some of you know I've talked about it around shredding and just ways that we could be nice catch Mike. Where we could be more efficient. So I'm bringing this forward because I would like to have the staff bring something back where we can have, they can hire outside auditor and an analyst that would work outside of what the staff is doing and just be more efficient in that process. Did I word that well, supervisor or CEO, record? Perfectly, Chairman. Okay. Bottom line is this, one of the things as well is looking at the enormity of $600, $700 million and understanding that our assessor recorder had this one item and it hasn't been evaluated since 1998. And I've asked other counties, again I've spent quite a bit of time with San Bernardino County, Chairman Row or Chairperson Row and her staff. She has 10 paid staff, she has a chief of staff and nine people, just that one supervisor. So the amount of things they can look at, I'm sure every supervisor up here is asked to look into different cost centers or different dollars that are being spent. Know the shorts office who I have often said is my favorite elected official. They are working tirelessly, they are doing their internal audits of certain things that we've asked them to do. There's just so much to look at and I think bringing this item forward will give the CEO's office an outside set of eyes to kind of look at ways we can be more efficient, save more money, and be more thorough. So I'm going to make a motion that we direct staff to bring something back in terms of where we can be more efficient. That's all I got. Board discussion, supervisor Rickard. I was going to say, there's board discussion. When you just say you discuss an audit, I'm confused. It's one thing to hire a consultant to look at things to make them more efficient. But you're using the word audit here and an audit. I can't even imagine what an audit for Shasta County would cost. And maybe, you know, no short is an elected official. She oversees what goes on in the county. So maybe I'm confused as to, I can see efficiency review and hiring a consultant, but I'm not sure hiring an auditor is what we want to do. I understand that. I think one of the things, may I ask you a question? Okay, answer. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I want to go ahead. Now I lost my trade of thought. But my point is that I need clarification before I can vote on this. I know it's very confusing to me, and I would like to have maybe Ms. Short, if she wouldn't mind coming up and explaining it to me more clearly, if that wouldn't be too much trouble. Yeah, I mean, this isn't absolutely. This isn't her item, and I've talked to NOLDA extensively, and I've talked to as well as CEO Rickard about different ways to do this. I've actually talked to Laura Birch as well because of her budget and some of the things, and they have a new CFO there as well, so I felt it best to go through the CEO's office, so he could look at some areas that I've brought up, and this is something that would be done at a very minimal cost. It's just another set of eyes that's outside. Because everyone talks about our friends at God, we're not going to spend that kind of money. But like, I'm sorry, Ms. Perch, I'm going to say it very briefly, but like the shredding thing as we're looking at cost savings. There is an abundance of dollars we can save and efficiencies we can make. There's just, we just got to get some more people rolling in that direction. Miss short, welcome. Good morning, Chair Crime, members of the board, and all the short auditor controller. So we do have every year the cost plan is audited by the State Controller's Office, so we do have an outside audit. It is done on that, but I do believe that what we're talking about is more of an efficiency review or an analysis of cost analysis to determine can we be doing things better and I never hesitate to do that. I think as a county that's our obligation to do that. I don't know if audit is the correct word. That was my concern. And what would a consultant hiring a consultant look like and what kind of cost would you speculate that might be? Because I'm always worried about spending money unnecessarily. Seven to $10,000. I can't believe that. I believe it. No, because as Nolda knows, the fall river fire district was $12,000. $20,000. So that's just a small little district. Somebody to look at Shasta County would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. 7 to 10. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, we're not talking, again, we're not talking about an audit. So for the fall river, we were writing about an audit. But this would be a full no and management on our cost to plant. I mean, it can be done by the CEO's office, it can be done by various people. I don't actually have a cost. I mean, that's not something that we've done in a while. I hired an external party to do that. So I mean, I don't have a problem, but as long as we have an understanding of where that, what it costs and where that money comes from, I'm very concerned these days, and I say it often, that we're dipping into the general fund at every turn. And that's taking away from public safety dollars. And so I just, I think that we need to rewrite this. I don't like the word audit in it, and I think perhaps we ought to table this and come back with a little more clear and concise proposal with actual range of costs before we move forward on anything on this. I think we need definitive numbers. Supervisor Rickard, so yeah, I think we could absolutely remove the word audit if that makes you full more comfortable because one thing I know and I checked with CEO Rickard because I want to give department heads and analysts and deputy CEOs and all the people involved. But there is something moving down the tracks that will save Chastity County a minimum, a minimum of $300 plus $1000 a year. And that's one item and there's a bunch of those that we can't. Noldas, so the camera didn't see, Ner shaking her head. Yes, so I'm telling you seven to ten thousand dollars is what an Efficiency consultant would cost I've reached out to a few I'm I've made the motion It's been seconded supervisor Ricker. I think we need to have an RFP and I think we need to have it in writing I don't want to just have a That's not I have confidence in the CEO I Think we need to have it in writing so that we can see what it's going to cost. That's all I'm seeing. And I think that's what the taxpayer would want. Do you want to make it up to like a $10,000 limit? Like, I mean, because he has jurisdiction. Councilor Larmer, do you have anything to add? Supervisor Larmer, after Councilor Larmer. Yes, sir. Ultimately, this is a discussion item to bring something back. So you would receive a contract with the scope of work in the top dollar amount that would be allowed in the perfect contract. Okay, that's what I'm looking for. Thank you, County Council. And I think that's why I say this to me was just, when you use the word audit, that raises red flags in terms of huge dollars. Well, take out on it. Supervisor Garne. Thank you, Council, that was my question. I think this is just for the review to bring it back with what it would look like. So I will support bringing it back to see what it would look like and we can see what those dollars are and if it makes sense or not. Great. All right. I don't think we need a roll call bill on that. But- I don't think we need a roll call bill on that. Chair, I believe you have one public comment card. Oh, the Lord is the Sarah, my bad. Come on up. And council, Larmer, like by all means hit the thing, because if I see you, I want to feel free. You're talking about an audit and you're talking about money. There was some text that went out to a lot of people regarding what I put out because Chris, you asked me for some information and in one of the texts that said you couldn't find it right now, but you said not to release it or something like that and without my permission and confidential. Well, I'm gonna give you an idea. I know it's kind of hard to what I'm talking about because I couldn't find the conversation, but you're talking about an audit and I explained to you before when I used to talk to you about doing an audit because that's what everybody's wondering what's going on in the money. While I received multiple times three letters from the state and it actually tells you how to do a nodded, without spending money, details by details. And that's what I received back in 2022, how you could do a nodded, what it costs the county money. If you just follow the steps, it tells you to go to your senator, request, or whoever is the highest position in Congress Congress or somebody, you know, you request them to submit a letter and then you actually have a they will come the state will come in and do it for free. So instead of trying to get and spend money and get somebody here locally somebody you know because that's the way it's going to be. You guys going to try to get somebody you know and so that's the way it's gonna be. You guys gonna try to get somebody you know. And so that way you don't have to worry about spending money and nobody has to worry about, well, you hire somebody who you knew. Well, it's state, the letter of the state that I received, it tells you how to do it without spending money. So I don't know why you guys don't look, you know, beyond, you know, beyond the box because you actually are just doing the same thing over and over, you don't go out of the box. That's why you don't find solutions. I do. So like I said, that's what you need to do. There's a way to do it without spending money. So I understand Mary about spending money. If you just look into that, and like I said, I have a copy of from the state how to do it. So I don't know why you guys are always spending money and just think that's the only way to get something done. That's not the only way. So we're right. So Ricker. Yeah, and I just want to say when I was chair in 2020, I talked to the Sacramento that did the outside from Sacramento and they couldn't say enough good things about Shasta County and the way that they handled their accounting principles and practices. And so I already feel confident that they're doing everything a great job. But I just really think that we need to be careful about spending a lot of money for something that we don't really need. All right, so we'll go ahead and we'll do a roll call vote. And Miss Short, thank you for your impromptu coming up. And we're voting to have it brought back and the staff to bring something back to I mean we'll hold on one second so under if because I'm okay dropping dropping the word audit. So, Supervisor Rickard, is that one of the things that's most concerning to you? I think it needs to outline the process, the scope of work process, and that kind of thing. Dollar amount. We need to have more information. I don't want to be voting on something that it's like an open checkbook. That's what I'm saying. So, but I totally agree with the open checkbook. My point is if we were able to get an efficiency person in here, and again, this is something that, misshort, has had a ton, a ton have input into, as well as Laura Birch, our HHS-A director with $300 plus million budget, as well as the CEO's office. I mean, this has been a ton of input going into this. So, you know, my question is if it's not an audit and we say it's capped at $7,000 to $10,000. I mean, is that what are your- I don't think you're going to get much for seven to ten thousand. I know exactly what we're going to get because I've already made a ton of phone calls and miss short and other supported. So that's what I'm asking like if because I don't I I want to know exactly what are your other questions are because if we can eliminate the staff doing more work and bringing it back again. Because I want to be inclusive of what you want. So that's why I'm saying we'll drop the word on it and we'll keep it to a very specific cost. What I'm saying with a $700 million plus budget, you're not gonna get an efficiency review of the county for $7,000. That's just not gonna happen. We need to have a scope of work. They're going to have to propose what it's going to cost to do this. And that's what I want to see as the particulars. You don't sign a contract or approve anything without those kind of details. Well, I'm working on something that's going to save us well over three or four thousand dollars. And I'm just a gym owner. Yeah, I know, I know. But I do know that we need to have much more information that's on this document. That's all I'm seeing. I mean, I'm supervisor Garmin. Yeah, can I jump in real quick? Absolutely, sir. So just to be clear, make sure I'm correct. Supervisor Rickert and council, you can correct me. We're not agreeing to spend a dime with this today. Is that correct? This is only a request to direct staff to bring this up and back. So this is going to bring it back. They may come up with 700,000. They may come up with 700,000, it's going to cost us. I think that's where we can make the decision if we don't want to move forward at that point. That's exactly my point, but it didn't say that in here. Yeah, okay. All right, so CEO Rickert, can that come back? Excuse me on that 23rd? We will work to make that happen. Thank you, sir. All right, let's take a roll call vote starting with Supervisor Rickert. Yes, Supervisor Rickert? This is to come back, correct? Yes, yeah. Supervisor Keltard. Yes, Supervisor Rickard? This is to come back. Yes, yes. Supervisor Keltstrom? Yes. Supervisor Kray? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. And Supervisor Garmin? Yes. Passes 5-0. We'll move on to, are we in our window now where we can jump back to R5? Unfortunately, Chair, no. We do have a time certain for that presentation at 1130. So if you'd like we can jump into item R8. We don't get through that item. We can continue that after the presentation. Let's just jump into it. Approving amendment to the 2024 Chairman's appointments and lays on assignments that's just sponsored by myself. Do we have any cards for this? We do. Okay. Benjamin Dolores. Skip, okay. This is something that I've worked with. I've asked the clerk of the board and I've asked a couple other supervisors and other counties about just processes and protocols as it comes to mid-year reviews of appointments and understanding. I'm, I'm, I'm succession plans are very important to me in my private life and company. And so I brought this forward because I wanted to give people an opportunity to see if there was another interest they had in terms of boards. What does the future look like going forward and constantly put us in a position to have systems and processes going forward that make our board streamlined and sustainable? So that's why I brought this forward. There is quite a bit in the agenda packet. There's no public comment, which is different. So do we have any questions here? Just a board discussion? Yes, Supervisor Ricker. Yes. I serve on that now, which I want to say, I felt Jeff Gordon was a much better choice than me to serve on that. But the person that you're asking to us consider, to replace, Tom Tuller, did some research. And he's had some past problems. He's in July 1, 2014. He was not eligible to practice law in California. He became active in July 1, 2014. He was not eligible to practice long California. He became active in July 16th. He got that straightened out. Then in 12, 17, 2015, he was disciplined. He was on probation. He got that straightened out. And then in January 30th of 2017, he was not eligible to practice law in California, and then he was reinstated as active in May of that year. That just concerns me that you have a person with a questionable and inconsistent. He's had problems and I don't know if this is the appropriate appointment. And I'm going to vote for a convicted felon in November. So, all right, supervisor Garmin. Well, but you know, but that's, you have to be consistent. You know, you replaced Judy Minor because you didn't like what she did. But in your vote- And you voted against Nathan for the commission's election because you didn't think he was a good moral character. And so, which one is it? Sue, I was going. Thank you, Chairman. I just like to voice my opinion. I'd like to stay on the RC, RC, in a GSFA, in GSCA. I feel like I've been a good part of that, and I know as the alternate, you don't get everything, but they do ask me to do work like up a follow-up of Mills, we actually make a difference in our community. And I would like to stay on that. And you absolutely, Supervisor Garmin still could do that work for me and Supervisor Kelschrom. He is going to be here next year. And I put you in that spot because at the time you said you were seeking reelection, you were going to move that direction. So from a succession plan, I thought, okay, that's great. One thing I do believe, and we've had this discussion, is in the past, less ball, Leonard Modi, and that's as far back as I've really had those conversations about RCRC and CSAC being split up between different supervisors. And I think there's some wisdom in that. I know you did both last year. I'm doing both this year and I wanted to be able to have supervisor Kelschrom be prepared to step into that next year because if I don't do it, then we're having somebody go into RCRC who has no experience at all. And I don't think that is wise. So for me, because of you're involvement in RC, I'm able to call staff and they'll say, hey, we've talked to Supervisor Garmin, like I'm aware of the fall river stuff. I think that's great. I don't complain about it. I don't feel like, like for me, there's five of us trying to do a lot of work. I don't get my toe stepped on. I just want good work sure I get him involved in some of that as an alternate. So he's able to step in next year either as the alternate or as the RCRC rep, if next year's board moves out. Sorry, Supervisor Rickard. Okay. Have a mic problem, Stephanie. She's gone. That's why. I just say, I just think it's only out of due respect for Supervisor Garman that he complete his term and he was appointed to that. And this is very unorthodox. It's very unusual for somebody to be yanked off because they'll be leaving. People leave all the time and I've never seen another supervisor pulled off a position. I'm sure Mr. Kelschrom could attend the meetings anyway. And just to point, if you're that concerned, he could acquaint himself with the going on of how that whole particular group operates. But I just don't, I think it's, I'm not quite sure what your motivation is to remove Mr. Garman from this position. That's my question. Well, part of the other thing too, Supervisor Rickert was when you were out in April or March, April, May, or whatever pointed. No, I was not out March, April. Well, you were out for a couple of months. Three meetings. Okay, over this, whatever the amount of time was, but there was conversations about you felt your workload. You asked for appointments. No, you did. You asked for appointments. I took appointments away from supervisor Kelser and gave him to you and then you complained about the workload. So this was an opportunity to say. Where did I complain about the workload? You did it publicly and then- Where did I publicly complain about the workload? I thank you because I appreciated back the right to be on the record? I'm trying to be very adam. I mean, never, please don't put words in my mouth. Please don't respond from the floor. I mean, if anybody wants to do the work of pulling that up, like that's very, it's very dark. Well, there will be people that will pull it up. Okay, great. Great. So, yeah, to me it was just an opportunity. And again, you just said something that is one of the things that just irks me when people say, well, we don't do it that way. We've always done it this way. And that's how things don't change or get better or evolve is when you don't constantly look to improve the process. Supervisor Garne, thank you for your patience, sir. Thank you, Chairman Cret. Maybe. Maybe. Stephanie's back now. Maybe. It's a job security thing. She's just messing with our mics if she's gone. No volume. I hear you. It's on. The light's not light, not maybe. Okay. CEO, Rickard. I think Supervisor Craig wrote a great point about wanting to get Supervisor Kielsen revolving the RC RC, but a supervisor cry allowed to go to RC RC events as it is now for the rest of this year. Or is he not able to attend? Any of the supervisors can attend a business purpose event as long as there's money in the budget to do so. Okay, so I would just, he can't steal a tent. I just want to make sure he can come on those meetings even if it's via Zoom just to kind of see what they're about. Whatever it looks like, if anything he has a chance to get his feet wet with RCRC and I could stay on the board. Okay. So that takes away the argument that Tim needs to be removed for Chris to attend the meeting. So he can attend whether Tim's on or not so I don't understand Why you want to remove him? We're looking through quite a few supervisor record appointments. I Mean here's here's here's I mean, but okay, so reason that you gave me okay here removing him was just I Know I I I gave my reason. I told you why. I is the chair. I mean, that's my prerogative. And if I have a choice of who to work with, mid-year, as the alternate, supervisor Garmin and I see each other here. That is it. And for various reasons, which we don't need to drag out, I would rather work much closely, much closer with Supervisor Keltstrom in prepping that. Because what we have right now is we have with the San Bernardino issue and fire. There's a good chance. There's a good chance possibly. I don't know, you never know. But supervisor Kelschromy may be the only two left up here. And when we talk about fire insurance and all that stuff, his district, in district five, just like yours in district three, have all been affected by fire. And I want to be able to work with supervisor Kelschrom closely to make sure that handoff is solid because one thing supervisor Baw and I spoke about was that process of having one supervisor oversee or not oversee but be appointed to CSAC and RC, RC supervisor Jones made that decision, which, you know, that is okay, but now I think it's important that those break off and I wanna to prepare Supervisor Garmann. So that's what I'm doing. And if there's the votes, we're going to vote on it. I know you're going to vote on it. We probably know how it's going to turn out. But the point is, Supervisor Garmann can still be involved as can Supervisor Garmann. He doesn't need to be removed. Okay, thank you. We'll take a roll call vote. Stephanie, we'll start with supervisor Garmin, am I right? Supervisor Garmin? No. Supervisor Jones? Yes. Supervisor Cray? Yes. Supervisor Kielstrom? Yes. And Supervisor Rick? No. Passes three, two. Moving to our nine, no, going back to R5. Hold on, hold on. Receive a presentation from Shasta Cascade Small Business Development Center, regarding economic development in Shasta County. This is sponsored by myself as well. We had a great presentation at the Shasta County Chamber. Very much directed towards small business owners, possible or future current entrepreneurs. And I thought the information was very relevant and I know there isn't a lot of people here per se in person, but there are people watching online and most importantly, this is archived. So it'll be used as a resource for people looking to move their companies forward and providing jobs here in Shasta County. So thank you and welcome. And this will be, this is a no vote item. This is just a presentation eight minutes. And Chair, I apologize for the interruption. I do just want to let you know with the projector issues. We do have it loading up right now So if you could give it just a few minutes and then I will have the presentation on all of your computers Perfect there are a few copies in the back for the public if anybody is interested if it's so if it's hard for you to see on the projector At this time he's going to dazzle us with blown animals and jokes, you know, okay Go right ahead. Yeah, we're good. All right. Well, OK. Sorry about that. Well, thank you, everyone, for being here. I'd like to start with a moment. If you guys, everyone in the audience end up front, if you think back to one of your favorite small businesses that you visit. And I really want you to envision what it was like in there. Smelling the pizza oven, hearing the sound of the beer is at pour into a glass, think about the laughter in the community. Because small businesses really are some of the most important parts of our community. And we want to talk about how we serve them here in Shasta County. And so my name's Quentin Gatti. I am the director of business development for Cisco EDC, and I have been the Director of the Shasta Cascade SBDC since last April when we merged with the Cisco SBDC. And so we have two offices we're located in Reading and Wyrika and we are part of a nationwide program. We are funded by the US Small Business Administration in the state of California, so we are in no cost service. And is there somewhere I should aim on this? Thank you. Okay, so within the United States we have 63 regions nationwide. We're part of the Greater NorCal SBDC Network. So as you can see, we sort of shass to a Trinity and Cisco counties. I actually live in Cisco County in the small town at Dunsmir, and I commute down to Shasta County a few days a week and up to Wyrica a few days a week. So I've got pretty substantial territory. We also have satellite offices and do outreach hours in the city of Weerville, the city of Bernie, and starting soon in the city of Dunesmear in Sysk, County as well. So this is just a brief excerpt of some of our staff, the folks who mostly work on the SPDC are myself and my colleague Alex who had a weave, he had another obligation, he's based here in writing myself. But we're also joined by a team of currently 12 business advisors, you might recognize some of the faces up here because the vast majority of them are Shasta County locals. And there are experts in everything from just getting started, you know, getting your business going to, we work with O2 employment services for HR concerns. We have bookkeepers, we have certified managerial accountants who help businesses with their finances. We have marketing experts, we have certified managerial accountants who help businesses with their finances. We have marketing experts, we have loan funding experts, we have intellectual property experts, we have social media experts, and we have some of the local restaurant owners as well who provide advising to other prospective entrepreneurs who are looking to open their restaurant in Shasta County. And so this is what we do as a program. We are a no cost service. That means we never charge businesses for what we do, but that doesn't mean we are in a very high quality service. We provide no cost, confidential one-on-one business advising, and this is what you would call our bread and butter. This is when a business owner comes with us and say, hey, I'm working on this challenge. I need to scale up. I'd like to buy the building that I'm currently leasing, and I don't know what the process is to get a business loan. Or hey, I'm having troubles with hiring, firing, I need to work on my employee handbook. So not only do we provide that advising and that consulting, but we also provide reassurance, we provide coaching. We help people navigate the situation because there's a lot of instances when you're a small business owner where you're told no. You're either told no by the planning department, you're told no by a bank, you're told no by a potential contract. And we like to tell our clients no doesn't always means no, sometimes it means not yet. Sometimes it means you have to do a little more work and we help prepare that work. We also host trainings that are subject matter specific that are served across a broad audience. This is everything from, you know, just how to start a small business in Shasta County. We host those once a month. How to up your cybersecurity. We have trainings that are offered exclusively in Spanish as well. And we're open to suggestions and ideas if we have clients who are coming to us and say, hey, I think it would be a really good idea for you guys to do a training on the Corporate Transparency Act and what it means for us in 2024. That's something we can look at doing. And we also provide educational curriculum. So we provide businesses with business plan templates, with resource guides, with financial projections, with marketing plans, things like that. So we really tried to make sure that we're not just meeting with a business in a one-off and saying, oh, this is what you're doing wrong, did it? We really want to make sure they have a roadmap for how they can make improvements or get through the challenges that they're working through at that time. So these are areas of expertise. As you can see, they're really all over the place. And the best part about this is that we don't charge for any of these services. So if you need assistance with human resources, we have someone for you. If you need assistance with financial management, we have someone for you. If you need assistance with your search engine optimization, getting your Facebook, your Google pages all coordinated together, we have someone who can do that. Most importantly, if we don't know, we'll figure it out. We're a resourceful bunch, and so we don't just say, I don't have the answer for you. We'll sit down with you and actually see, okay, how can we solve this? We also utilize a lot of tools to, outside of our core program to assist businesses. I am an economic developer, so I use one tool for instances called Placer AI. We run foot traffic reports for businesses with brick and mortar locations and we show them a year of foot traffic. We show them what time of the day they receive the most customers. What days of the week they receive the most customers. Where those customers are coming from and where they're going to. Where they might have customers who are tourists from outside of the area coming into the area and things like that. So we really try to provide cutting edge, really up-to-date, relevant information and assistance to small businesses. These are who we serve. These are our clients. You can recognize some of them from the area, but the fact of the matter is that small business owners are members of our community. They are people. They have life stories and just like any other person from time to time, they need assistance. And so we really, really pride ourselves on being able to be a part of these stories. All of these images that you see are different businesses that we helped from one stage or the other, whether it was opening shop for the first time, buying their commercial building, receiving awards, increasing their sales, things like that. And so if you're like, well, if we don't charge for services, how do we know whether we're doing our job or how we're doing. And so we track a lot of economic impacts. We like to monitor the progress that we make with our clients. And so since we merged with the Shasta Cascade SBDC last year in April 2023, we've served 460 small businesses. We've provided over 1,600 hours. Well, now it's over 1,600. At the time I wrote this, it was just 1,591. But it's now over 1,600 hours of one-on-one business advising. We've helped businesses get over $6 million in capital that can come from either investors or through banks or through loans or through grants. We've helped 19 businesses open up shop in this last year. We've increased their revenue $6 million and we've helped create 61 jobs. And so we want to keep these numbers getting up. And so the purpose of why I'm here is for referrals. All of you are members of your community. I guarantee you know many, many business owners if you're not already business owners yourself. So knowing about us, knowing what our resources are, knowing how we can help your constituents, your businesses, your friends, your colleagues, that's really all I'm here for is I'm looking for referrals. I want to make sure that businesses in the community know they can receive assistance and who they can receive assistance from. And knowing that it's confidential, we're not going to say anything about them unless they give us express permission to share their information. We're not selling them anything, we're not trying to refer them. I don't have any backroom deals with any banks or anything. We're just simply trying to see what is the best way that we can help you. And so that's all we're really looking to provide. We have a few special programs. We have a restaurants program. We're doing a big government contracting initiative. The Wind River Casinos partnering with us on October 16th to host a procurement fair. We're hoping to invite all the local government agencies. So we can get them connected with small businesses who want to do government or do business with the government. We have online marketplaces, we have restaurant advisors, we have finance advisors. And so not everyone's gonna be located in writing, but we have access to all these resources thanks to being part of the North Cal, I speak to you. Some of our current initiatives that we're working on, we've really upped our game in expanding our languages. So now we have advisors who can serve Mandarin, Cantonese and Spanish speaking businesses in the writing area. We are making a big push for government procurement, so sorry, the date says October 27th, it's actually October 16th. And what we're really trying to do is we're trying to work with all the other different resource partners in the area to make sure that it's very seamless, that if you're a small business and you're looking for help, you don't need to go through some maze or anything. So if you guys have any questions, I have some information that I can share. I had business cards or whatnot. I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much. Quit and it's SISQ County, not a skit. Yeah. No. Well, we are going to take, we do have a public comment, so we'll take the public comment and then we'll come back. That's correct, right, Stephanie? If we have the board has questions, which I do, do supervisors in queue. So we do, okay. So we're gonna, if you quit and if you don't mind, sit right in the front row. Yes, sir. We'll take Teresa Roberts. She's, nope, we're gonna move right to Supervisor Garmin. Come back up. Perfect, Supervisor Garmin. I just want to Clinton, what a great organization, what a great service you offer to our community. And hopefully you give it for all of some, maybe some of us up here, but also from the audience and whoever sees us today. Well done with your presentation, sir. Thank you. Yes, and I think you work with the Spirier, California Economic Development Department here in headquarter here in Shasta County too. Yes, man, ever since even before when Bob Nash was in charge. And Bob Nash is in the audience today. He had a long career. He's on the agenda later today, but he's had a long career with that. And I just want to say you have representative that comes to those meetings and she does a great job. And I'm very familiar with a lot of the work that you've done in Siskiew County because I'm a landowner in Siskiew County and a business owner in Siskiew County too. But you've really made a difference and do you have any contact information? I can think of someone I'd like to refer to you. Yeah, like do you want my business card? Right. Or just can you just mention it so we can all have it? Yes, absolutely. So you can you can you can Google us the Shasta cascade SBDC or website is SBDC SC dot org. I'm working on change that name. It doesn't roll off the tongue. Well I couldn't even write yeah, no worries. So it's SBDC SC dot org So we do have offices in Reading and Wyrika. We're at 1305 Sacramento Avenue on the corner of Sacramento and Pine and Reading and I can give you some business cards to hand out as well. Yeah, that would be great. If I could just get a business card and then pass it on, that would be super. So any, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, and, Quentin, I would just encourage you to keep going to those chamber things because obviously had I not seen you a while ago and I know you just came to this last chamber. I know Bernie has their chamber meeting pretty frequent. So I appreciate you coming out to the Shasta County Chamber and getting involved in helping people. Yeah, thanks. Thank you. I really appreciate this opportunity. And please, for everyone in the audience, you know, small business owner who might need assistance with anything, anything, no questions to dumb. Please send them, send them our way. Absolutely. We greatly appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you. All right, so with that, for. I'm sure you've already had. for. I don't have a card for that. So. You do. Chair, you do have one speaker, but I'm not sure who it is. Theresa Roberts, she said no. I have one card. All right. So are there any other cards for that one, Valerie? There are not. No. Okay. So we're going to move on to. I think that takes us up to close session public comment. Do we have any of those, Stephanie? Chair, we do not. We still do not. Okay. Then we are in close session is estimated 35 minutes. Council Larmer, is that still a pretty solid estimated time? I don't expect that it would take longer than that. Obviously, if the board had a lot of questions, it could, but I don't expect that it will. Okay. We will adjourn or we will take a recess. We will be back no sooner than we will take a recess, we will be back no sooner than 12.45. We're at recess. Returning from closed session, Council Larmard, do we have any reportable action? Mr. Chairman, R11, two items were heard, no reportable action at this time. Okay. Thank you, sir. Moving on, we're going to be misblankenship. You had, do you want to take that now from R8? Yes, Chair. So just for the public's knowledge, item R8 did not receive a motion in a second and redoing the roll call. Okay. And again, item R8 is for Chairman Appointment amendments. Yes, so I will make a motion that we accept as is. Second, we have a first by myself, a second by supervisor Jones. And Chairman Cricht, just real quick, you are approving as amended, correct? Not as is currently written? As amended, yes. As amended, okay. As the item, yes. Thank you. And then for a roll call vote, supervisor record? For the record, that was no supervisor Kellstrom? Yes. Supervisor Craig? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. And supervisor Garmin? No. Thank you for the clarification, Chair. Okay. Three, two. All right. So we are moving back from closed session. I believe, Krickman from Wrong, this planking ship, but I believe we are at can- We are at item R6, the presentation regarding zero emission fleet. Oh, R6. Perfect. Give me one second. Troy Barlemay. Welcome, sir. Thank you. Good. Wow, it's almost in the right spot. German cry, members of the board, Troy Bartlemay, Director of Public Works. What we have for you today is a presentation regarding zero emission vehicle, basically transition plan. Back in 2020, the California Resource Control Board came out with several regulations, with ultimately the plan to by 2030 have our fleets pretty much be basically what they call zero mission vehicles. So they won't put out any carbon. So I'll just probably be easier if I just read here. The California Resource Control Board has adopted several zero mission vehicle regulations that are going to affect the county fleet and infrastructure. The Advanced Clean Truck Act regulations were adopted in 2020. The Advanced Clean Car Act 2 regulations were adopted in 2020 as well. And the Advanced Clean Fleece adopted in 2023. The Advanced Clean Fleece Reg regulation work in conjunction with the advance clean truck regulations. And since we have a public works fleet as well as a regular vehicle fleet, these are all going to affect us in the future. And so we thought it would be best to get out ahead of this and so we hired a consultant tier consulting to evaluate one, our infrastructure, to our fleet. And they're in the middle of a pretty in-depth evaluation of what we have, what we do, what will be necessary for the future. They've also done a similar plan for the city of Reading, the city of Reading, and the electric, so they have some ideas as to how we can work with them, partner with them, perhaps a little bit. But the most important thing is they're going to, after they do this, we'll have an idea as to what's feasible, what's not feasible, what this is going to cost us, what's coming up in the future, and we can use a lot of this information to apply for grants if they're available, things of that nature. And so with us today, here is Chris White from Frontier Energy. I've been speaking to her for awhile today. She is very knowledgeable, probably one of the best experts on this item. So if you have any questions at the end, something you want to know, like different between hydrogen electric, things like that, she is a wealth of knowledge and I encourage you to ask those. So without further ado, I'll have Chris White come up here and give to their presentation. Welcome. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me here today. And I know that you're all thrilled to sit. Then the next 45 minutes talking about zero mission via. That's funny. Yeah. So first let me give you just high level. Friend share energy works very closely with DKAS and engineering company. We have completed more than now 50 zero mission transition programs for different fleets, mostly in California and Washington. Although we've also worked in Minnesota and South Carolina and Ohio and other states that don't even have the regulations that we have. So each one of these plans, we really take into account the unique needs of our client and the way in which you operate and the transition timeline that you have. So first I do what I mentioned, Troy talked about a few of these regulations. There are many regulations both from the state of California and the federal government that are pointing towards zero mission vehicles. There are those that say thou shalt sell. There are those that say thou shalt buy. And now from the US EPA, we have the newest one, which is thou shalt manufacture. The reason that these are important is they give the manufacturers of both vehicles and parts and infrastructure certainty. So we know we have these three levers pushing and the vehicles with plugs and vehicles with fuel cells are coming. And our job is to make you ready for them so that you suddenly don't go, oh my God, we don't have a way to fuel these. So let's talk about what a zev means in regulatory language. It's a vehicle that runs solely on a battery. It's a vehicle that runs solely on a battery. It's a vehicle that runs partially on a battery that plugs in, or it's a vehicle that uses hydrogen to create electricity in a fuel cell. All three of these fit underneath this plan, these regulations for zero emission vehicles. Our goal for Shasta County is to really look at a way in which we enable you to be ready for these that is fiscally responsible is operationally effective. I will say from all of our clients you have the biggest, the largest land area that you're covering, particularly in working in rural and remote areas. And we don't want to say, well, in order for your sheriffs to cover the entire territory, they have to stage cars around the tarot. It won't work like that. So we want to be operationally effective. We want to leverage the many, many improvement that you already have going on so that you were thinking ahead and to really build upon your strengths. I do want to mention too that Bucky, the Fleet Manager, is probably the most organized fleet manager I have ever met. We have been thoroughly impressed with all of the staff. They are so prepared and so knowledgeable and so informed. You all are blessed to have them. So this is what our plan looks like right now. We really think about this in three stages. We're at this on your mark. It's what we're doing. There are some things that are going on already. We want to make sure that those happen. There are some things that we have proposed. One of those, for instance, is to set up a motor pool. Right now, different departments each have their own vehicles assigned. Some of those vehicles sit for days without being used, but that's the way that profit centers are set up. If we can pull those into some shared vehicles, we could probably remove 30 to 40 vehicles from the fleet without having an operational effectiveness. And Bucky has already been studying this for efficiency to see that it works. Then we look at phase two, that's what we're starting on now that takes you through 2027, which is when the advance clean fleets regulation. That's a vowshelt by regulation takes effect for you. Our next phase is where we start building upon what we have to do, planning for capacity. How do we go from a few to a lot? And then in 2032 and beyond, you're just gonna take this plan and run with it. I do wanna say that we have that run with it. Also, Mayns take a breath, reassess, has technology changed? You all may not be aware of this, but we've had changes in technology. So for instance, I started my career working with IBM. We are kinda at the PS2 Ethernet stage of battery electric vehicles and charging stations. And we know the technology changes. That little cell phone you have in your hand has way more power than the main frames that sent rockets to the moon. So we got to take an assessment to let technology grow. So we're particularly looking at some leveraging some existing opportunities that you have now. And that is putting charging stations onto the existing solar arrays that you have from Anchi. Many of them are producing more power than you're using. We think it's a smart idea to use that excess power to charge your vehicles. Both expansions at the jail in the morgue, just build in the charging infrastructure for those, and we've got that already going on with the morgue. You're putting in some new generators at Lockheed to move the office of emergency services there. That creates an awesome opportunity to have a resilience center by adding some DC pass chargers and maybe a second generator or a larger generator. And then we're also talking with facilities about how we look at lease agreements in the future so that the landlords install charging stations for you and make them available. We're also doing something kind of unique with you all. We're really excited about this at the corner of Breastlar and Eastside is a great big empty locked and we would like to have somebody else build a hub for you there that could be charging, could be hydrogen, will have solar, will have battery power. It gives you the opportunity to become an operator of a hub that would be eligible for many grants including those from the federal government, a third party that owns and operates, and the opportunity to partner with other fleets like Raba and the city of Reading. We're also taking a really good look at hydrogen. There's already talks of hydrogen production going into Shasta County. We are not there yet, but we are certainly building that into your plan so that it's ready when you are. And I am happy to take any questions you would like. Very impressive. Three seconds to spare. So, time that out very well. I bet Troy that I could do it in eight minutes and even got a joke in. It's perfect. Supervisor Jones. Thank you, Chair. Is there any exceptions? I noticed you had electric and then you had hybrid. I see hybrid working better for us than just straight electric and then hydrogen as well. Is there any exceptions also on vehicle size and the gross vehicle weight that would change anything? What are some of the details there? So the advanced clean fleets regulation does have exceptions and exemptions. There are some vehicles that advance clean fleet applies to everything from big pickup truck and bigger. There are some vehicles that nobody's building, nobody's building to cement mixer, nobody's building a vector. So there are some exemptions for those now. But again, those regulations that are saying, thou shalt build and thou sell shall sell, are making those come available. We are thinking that for many of your vehicles, particularly near term, a plug-and-hybrid is going to be the way to go, particularly for sheriff, for the vehicles that are traveling down to Sacramento all the time. Plug-and-hybrid is going to be the way to get there first. And that will qualify. Plug-in hybrids will do it. A plug-in hybrid according to these regulations has to be able to drive on electric power. So little exempt, little difference here is there are vehicles like a bucket truck. They can have a battery to lift the bucket, but the engine still drives the vehicle. That won't count. Has to drive on electric power for a minimum distance. Okay, thank you. Thank you, supervisor Jones. Supervisor Rickard. Yes, so to dig into that line of thinking a little more deeply. So I live in the far northeastern part of the county, and you're right. It's not practical for electric vehicles to function up there because the law enforcement could get stuck in a place that they wouldn't be able to get home. I've already had experiences with people visiting up there not having options. So if you had a hybrid, is there a certain percentage of the time that you have to use the electric portion or how is that? I mean, what's the law or the statute or the standard or whatever? How does that work? Sure, it's written into USEPA regulations. And the distance it has to travel on all electric power depends upon the size of a vehicle. Big semi truck, seven miles, SUV, 40 miles. So that's what we figure into our plans. And we assume then for instance those share vehicles, they'll be able to drive 40 miles on all electric power. And when they're driving that 330 miles to respond to something, the rest of the time they're going to be driving on gasoline. Okay, so we have a lot of snow some winters. So does electric vehicles, do they have the power to operate with four-wheel drive vehicles? Currently snow plows are exempt from the regulation. So our plan for you calls for those to be replaced with gas and diesel as much as possible. And in fact, one of the things that we worked with Buckeon is there are a few vehicles that will be subject to the regulation that need to be replaced in 2027 and 28. We are suggesting he buy those as diesels in 2026. So they're going to get replaced a little earlier. You'll keep them a little bit longer, but by the time the next bunch that need to be replaced, there should be a battery or fuel cell option available for it that'll do the job What about things like cattle trucks? I mean you obviously don't want to have cattle truck full of cattle have the battery go dead and they're sitting on the side of the road So what are those kinds of Operations what are they gonna do? I I agree with you on that this plan that we're doing for you doesn't include private Operated vehicles, but I actually have another project that works specifically with agriculture. And there are quite a few issues having to deal with how long different types of agriculture can sit on a truck. And so- Right, like there are several food items. I mean, it's a very complicated, we have, like for instances, we have a meat truck. I mean, it's the meat's frozen, but I mean, you've got to be able to get it delivered in a timely manner I guess it's the point I'm trying to make. That is very true and you know the rules for how long a cow can stay on a truck depend upon the age of the cow. I do yeah so I know I've checked with pilot travel centers he's one of my clients that we're gonna have to put in little pet areas so that we can take all our cows off the truck while the truck charges. And the cattlemen aren't gonna wanna do that because then you're potentially exposed cattle and other diseases. Yes. So I could go on for a couple hours on that one, but we'll stop right there. You're gonna be hard pressed to find anybody in this county that knows more than supervisor record about cattle. Well, you and I are going to talk about that separately so I can finish this because there's another thing having to do with cattle track that you and I have talked about. Okay, we will do that. We do have a public comment, so if you wouldn't mind to take a seat in the front row right there, next to Troy, maybe not sit really close to him. There you go. But buffer seat's always good. Theresa Roberts. Yeah, I don't know how a lot of that would work in the ranch. Yeah, it was and as you guys are recording out with Serta, it's crazy. Yes, welcome. I am this kind of concerns me. Mainly because we've we've got trucks and due to EPA you've got to replace your trucks. We had a 2004 perfectly wonderful truck. Didn't work anymore. I mean they wouldn't let us thrive. It couldn't register it. Pretty much had to give it away to another state because smog doesn't cross the borders. But here's the other thing. You need carbon in order for the green to grow. In order to feed the, you need that number one. Number two, the destruction from the batteries, building the batteries, getting rid of the batteries. The renewable resource of fuel is a whole lot less damaging, if damaging at all. I guess I'm old school and I'd say, hey, you know what? Keep gas, keep diesel. Push it out as long as you can, as far as you can, because chances are it's going to change. You know, you get somebody that's going to govern this state, that's going to say there's a bunch of hogwash. Go get a lawnmower that runs on gas. You know, kind of ridiculous to try and look at it right now. I think it's ludicrous, so it's all I got to say. Thanks. All right, thank you. Is there any other, as the item sits, we're looking at considering providing direction to staff? Mr. Bartleme, did you have any, maybe particular questions and I don't see any other supervisors in queue? So I'm not sure what. We just don't, we're getting to a point where we're getting close to the end of the study and Frontier has, they've introduced a few of their ideas further options. So before the study is over, we will bring back some options in some direction at the conclusion of the study is how we want to go forward. There's just to give you an idea of where we're at and is there something you think you'd like us to include, like us to look at? Is there any other things you'd like us to light it all on fire? No? No? Supervisor Garmin. Thank you, Chair McClack. I was trying to give you a share as well as what were you looking for with the action. But I guess I would just simply say move forward as you're doing it. Grishy did a great presentation with that. I love the happy attitude. None of us want to deal with this, but the reality is we're going to have to at some point and to some degree. So I think the study you guys are doing is it has to be done? I did have a question for Grace. I'm just wondering Troy, I mean it is what it is. We live in the state that we live in. It is what it is. But what are the ramifications or the consequences if we were to say no sorry we're not going to put our cops in EV vehicles for their safety? What are we facing fines? Are we facing not giving any grants? What would be the consequences? Troy's not going to answer that about fines. Yes. To both of those, now Chris can probably speak to a better than I can, but there are some exemptions aren't there currently for those specific vehicles. I'm going to bump trough away. So let me be clear the police cars do not fall under these regulations. What the police cars do fall under is the EPA regulation that says thou shalt build and it also applies to the clean cars too regulation. So you all can buy gasoline, diesel, cop SUVs as long as you possibly can. It's just at some point they are going to come with a plug whether you want them to or not. So we are trying to prepare you for that and we think it is most reasonable that they're going to be plug in, they're going to be gas first, then they're going to be plug in hybrid, then they're going to be plug in or fuel cell at the end of the rainbow. And that's EPA you're seeing this as a nationwide? Yeah, EPA puts out every five years, they update their tailpipe emission standards, they just did that, they did it in consultation with the states and with the manufacturers, and the only way that they'll be able to meet the tailpipe standards by 2030 is if cars start having plugs, I think we're going to see a resurgent and plug-in hybrids. Do those standards change with the administrations? They do not. Really? That's too bad. It will change again in five years when they look at them again, but they will be, have always been more stringent over the last 25 years, no matter who's sitting at the helm. Thank you. Councilor Larmer. I just have a question while you're here. Whether you're a company or any others are looking into the effect of the overruling of the Chevron precedent and how that's going to affect the EPA's regulations as they said today. That I can't answer. I'm so sorry. I don't know enough about that. I know some things about the what's going on with the rinse, it doesn't apply to what we're doing, but that I don't know enough about. And then there was one other question. I think that's, I think you answered mine. Yeah, I had one, but there was more similar to the rise of calstrums. I have a rise of record. I have a question. It says simple majority vote. What are we voting on just to ask? It was just if there was any direction to staff who wanted to vote. Okay. So there's no action at this point. I mean, correct. No one's making a motion. So yeah, Troy, continue on. I'm going to thank you Troy for being proactive with this and looking into the future and trying to get ahead of this instead of trying to catch up later. And I just wanted to emphasize two, Chris is an ally. She's helping us navigate these, navigate this and to answer your earlier question, I'm just a lay person when it comes to it, but my guess is it'd be something like the smog regulations on your car. You won't be able to get it registered and eventually at some point in time. You'll get ticketed. I don't know what happens if you keep driving. You get tickets fines, things of that nature. That's my guess as to how the enforcement would go. And ultimately, Chris's plan, as I've seen it evolve, is real proactive about basically front loading here before the regulations get too strict with as much gas and diesel as we can. Because down the road there's a chance they might back off a little bit. Again, we're just trying to find a way to navigate this. Ultimately, it doesn't mean we're going to go that direction. But as you can see, Chris is a pretty good expert to help us, at least know what we're looking at. Yes. Thank you, travel safe. All right. Thank you, Chris, for coming. Nice to meet you. Absolutely. So, Stephanie, are we moving at this point to R10? Yes, Chair, as long as the board decides to take no action. Correct. I think. That's correct. R9. You say R10 or R9? I'm sorry. You're on R9. Yeah, I know we're bouncing back and forth. So, all right, R9, maybe one second. Let me flip it back over. All right, discuss the Shastka personnel rules regarding the Board of Supervisors Authority for Traveling Spenses and consider providing traction to staff sponsored by myself. This is an item that I brought forth based on the conversation that Supervisor Rickert started during the budget hearings about cutting out the lunch or dinner allotment of the 6,000, which I supported. So just looking at more cost centers and where we can continue to look at just having more say on just not the day-to-day operation, but just some expenses. So I brought this forward as a discussion item and possibly move it to a vote to see what the process is right now for out of county travel and then how that could be curtailed by supervisors or outgoing elected officials even across any department possibly in the last quarter of a term. So the only person I spoke to on this was supervisor Jones and got some of his thoughts, but I'd like to hear other people's thoughts as well. And we do have some public comments. We could always take that. We could always take that right now. other people's thoughts as well. And we do have some public comments. We could always take that. We could always take that right now. And then we'll want to do public comment. Let's do public comment then. Jenny, followed by, I don't know how Stephanie these were kind of in a pile. So I guess Jenny Dolores Benjamin Teresa Roberts. So I remember when you brought this up on your board report and I made a note to myself that it was Jack's post one day I learned to say that word. Next to him appointing or not him appointing Nate but more appointments and how you wish to do them. And you talked about the Elections Commission. And I would have found those two things odd to speak about together. But it was very apparent that you were very unhappy with his pick, with Garmin's pick for the Commission and it almost felt like a personal attack to you. And I don't really understand that. I think Garmin picked Nate because he thought it would be nice. Hey Jenny, this is on R9. I suppose I'm bringing it up because it appears to be retaliatory that you wish to take away funds for him to go to the RC RC so that to kind of prove a point that you didn't like what he did. And it's concerning to me because I've heard you say multiple times that Tim was your friend but he seemed to just make a decision you didn't like and It made you angry enough to want to do something to punish him and take things away And you did mention it at the last meeting that it was specifically about him going to RC RC It's concerning because it makes me wonder if there are other things that can be said or done to make you angry or if there's, I mean, I mean, I like if this could be taken wrong and then like, you become vindictive about something I say in this speech, I don't really know. I don't want to be accusatory. I just sort of want to understand this better, because that's just how it appears to me that this is sort of like a vindictive thing. I just want to understand it better, sorry. No, absolutely. And when we do board discussion, I'll articulate. Dolores, come on up. Benjamin Theresa. You may want to lower that Troy was there. You put this item is pretty sad that you put this item. When actually you could use this weapon against everybody else but accept yourself. You're a dictator. And you think you're above everybody. of this weapon against everybody else, but accept yourself, your dictator, and you think you're above everybody. And you know, you'd go out and do travel, and you do get reimbursed. And then you also have gone to Mexico, and you've gone to places, don't laugh. It's been, it's very disrespectful for you to act like this. As you as a chair to act like that, that's very, very disrespectful for you to act like this. As you as a chair to act like that, that's very, very disrespectful. And you shouldn't even be on the sitting on that chair. How dare you? You're supposed to be a role model for people to see, you know, to run the county and you for your behavior to act like that, it's very disgusting. You dictate everybody, but those rules don't apply to you. You only do whatever you think you want to try to control. You control everybody. You think you could do that. But you are a dictator, Kevin. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel good. It makes you feel powerful. Or night. But you cannot do that. It's pretty sad. How can you look at yourself and me? I'm going to call yourself a man of God, your liar. Your liar. I don't understand how you could be sitting there and say one thing, they turn around, do something else. How do you deal with it? And how do you do that? You think it's funny. You act like a little freaking little kid. At least a little kid's willing to listen. R9. Yes, Kevin, you just don't like hearing the truth. That is R9. You're trying to dictate everybody's Yes, Kevin, you just don't like hearing the truth. That is R9. You're trying to dictate everybody's else's money and where they can go, what they can spend. You retaliate against people who don't agree with you. Because they want to exercise their right to go against what you believe. Not everybody believes what you believe. You think that it's okay to restrict everybody? There's five of you. Five of you. It doesn't mean you overpower every, all those, all of you guys. You all have a right, an equal right to able to spend and go places where you need to go. You don't control everybody's money. We are your freaking boss. We tell you, will you like it or not, will you like it or not if I'm not in your district? I still have a right, because I come and spend money every time I come to Shasta County. So don't act like you just go ahead and do all this, whatever you want. But I'm continue to file complainsing. You will get yours when it comes to you. But you'll see. The job captain. Benjamin. Mr. Cry, your actions related to R9 have been nothing short of hypocritical. Your review of supervisor expenses is a naked attempt at punishing supervisor Garman for his opposing views, yet you yourself have misused county resources for personal gain. Your trip to see Mike Lindell, allegedly for official county business, was nothing more than a network opportunity, mask as legitimate work. This blatant misuse of taxpayer money was and is unacceptable. It undermines the trust that the people of this county have placed in you. And yet you have the audacity to admonish supervisor Tim Garman for wanting to attend the RC RC conference near the end of his term. You accused him of seeking a fun networking opportunity, yet this is precisely what you did under the guise of official business with your trip to meet Lindell. Tim Garmin is a dedicated public servant who cares deeply about this community and seeks to expand his knowledge to better serve the people. And unlike yourself, he has shown a commitment to genuine public service for all the citizens, not just those who agree with him. Your tenure on this board has been marked by pett us, punitive actions, and a blatant disregard for the principles of good governance. You've spent more time lashing out at others, been working collaboratively to solve the issues facing our county. Your refusal to accept appointments due to political disagreements is a stark contradiction to your proclaimed desire for unity and cooperation. And you know what? Perhaps we should have a governing authority for how supervisors spend their money. That way taxpayers won't need to spend thousands of dollars for you to play politics with extremists. All right, bringing it back for board discussion. I'm going to, oops, supervisor Garmin. Thank you. And then some Professor Ricker. Chairman, I just want to say, the last thing when this is, you brought this topic up, you're board report, you bitch in my name with two different occasions, when it wasn't even on the agenda. Technically, it's probably grounds for brown act violation, which I'm not willing to pursue that. There's no point in it. But you were wrong to do that. I need to say anything that day because I wasn't gonna get into it that day, but it does feel retaliatory. And it's hard not to feel that way. I've already got my, just so you guys know Jenny, and I already have, my reservations are already made from the county for the RC, RC event. I will be attending that. I have a right to do the county business to the last day of my work that the people elected me to do and I plan on doing that all the way through the end of my term. If it means going out of town for county business, it means going out of town for county business. I will do what I can for this county today and all the way through December 31st when my term ends. And if you guys try to stop me, I will ask for an injunction. I will pursue, and I already told CEO Rick at this, I will pursue this. You cannot stop me from doing the work of the people. Supervisor Mayor. Well, I think pretty much everything's been said. I was going to bring up the fact that you did go see Mike Lindell. I didn't really see anything come out of that trip and the county paid for that. And I truly believe when a person is elected that they fulfill the obligations of their position up until the day that they term out. And I think Mr. Supervisor Garmin is entitled to go to this. I think it's his duty to attend and I don't see other than retaliation, I don't see why you're doing this other than that. I also feel that you're trying to compare it to a budget cut of $6,000 for lunches. That has nothing to do with a person doing their job. It's not, it's apples and oranges. So I took Umbridge at that particular. Thank you, Sue Reserickert. Sue Reserjones. Well, I do think it did come down to money, and that's why we stopped with the lunches. It's why I turned down the retirement because of how much it's going to cost the tax payers, and that would be a substantial cut, because that goes on forever, Supervisor Rickard, which I've asked you a couple of times if you would be pleased from the stance. So we're here. No, I'm still talking, thank you. So it did come down to money and so on R8, the previous idea was that getting ready for Supervisor Keltner and because he's the vice chair. I see that as an opportunity to transition so I don't have any any any problem with making some personal rules to save a little bit of money we have been trying to do that. And there's a lot more that each of us individually could do but that's up to each supervisor. Thanks, Chair. Thank you, supervisor Jones. Supervisor Rickard? Yeah, I wasn't going to mention this, but I am doing something. I was adamantly opposed to the pay raise that you voted on and approved. And so as a result, and I've talked to Null Deschard about this. And I am having after taxes, we've done some calculations. And and I'm going to be donating portion of my salary every paycheck to the employee appreciation day fund. So because in basically in protest for that pay raise. So yes, I am doing something supervisor Jones. Supervisor Garmin. With a one last comment on this and then I'll let it go for you guys to discuss further. But I have not abused the out of county travel. I don't take personal trips on the county's dime. I don't go see D-rate celebrities and buy a pillow. I don't put a pack on the machine in my room. I work for the people. I work for the people. I do not abuse it. And I feel very attacked with this item as you can tell. All right, so I'm going to go ahead and weigh in and then we'll take a vote. So this money, money is not emotional. Money is simply but a tool. This isn't about just supervisor Garmin's one trip. It's about looking at protocols, procedures. And I've been here, Supervisor Calstrom's been here 19 months. Supervisor Jones is wrapping up four years, but really was the sole vote oftentimes for over half of his 10 years Supervisor Record. You've been here eight years. And as I look at things that have been brought forth by various supervisors over the periods of time, I'm going to constantly look and refine and try to understand motivation and what the investment is. Now, since you guys have brought up multiple times things that are partially true, but then erroneous and others, the Lindell trip, when I went to staff and said, hey, I can pay for this, they said, no, no, no, no, no, you need to have the county pay for this because this is county business. Okay, so I stepped into traps and I get that. So what did I do? The minute I realized that I So what did I do? The minute I realized that I could have paid for it myself, I made a donation for like $400 more than the entire trip cost to the Youth Options Violence Prevention Council. Supervisor Garmin brings up the Pac-Man's Machine, which I purchased and I was told that there was only one way to do anything in our offices and that was to have public works do it. So Supervisor Ricker, you have and if anybody would like to take a tour, I will take them upstairs and show them from the outside glass in your office, my office, Kelschem's office, Jones's office and garments, and yours by far has the most stuff in it and guess what? There's not one single bill because you broke county policy and I followed county policy every step of the way. So when they said they had to have it moved in, I did that. And so I've learned the lesson. So when supervisor, I believe it was you, said that I was spending money going to San Bernardino. No, I spent my own money. And you laugh because you know it's true. Everything about you is politics. It's never policy. So this item here was supervisor Garmin, and he wants to politicize it again. And I tried to do this very behind the scenes because I wanted to be very respectful of Mr. Garmin. But the reason he was removed by me with RCRC because he said we couldn't work together. So I voted to remove him and put somebody in there I could work with. And so now Supervisor Kelschrom is there as the RCRC rep and I don't know legally Mr. Larmor or CEO Rickert about Garmin's reservations or whatever, but he is not the RCRC rep. He will not be the RCRC rep next year. So let it be what it may be if he has approved somehow some way to spend that county money great. And if he's not by this jurisdiction of this governing board, then he won't go. And he can always spend his own money like I do, like others do, if they want to do something outside the purview of what the county will pay for. And against the adviser record, I didn't vote for the raises either. But I'll tell you what, the people up here, they earn every single dime they're paid. So, supervisor Garmin. And you said you were done, but you're not guilty. You mentioned about me politicizing this. I think you're the one that mentioned my name twice last week in your board report when it wasn't even on the agenda. So don't give me the, I'm politicizing it when you were the one, sir, that was doing that. Okay. So we'll take a roll call vote. I'll start with Supervisor Rickert. Chair, can you please clarify the motion? Oh, I'm sorry. As per looking back, considering direction to staff, to come back with a policy about late-term travel by supervisors and how that would be approved going forward. And do I have a second on that motion? I'll second it. I'm sorry, who seconded? Jones. Supervisor Jones. Okay, motion? I'll second it. I'm sorry, who seconded? Jones. Supervisor Jones. Okay, roll call vote starting with. And just to clarify for staff one more time, I would like to look at even some, maybe I don't want to spend a ton of time on this because the, I know other counties do have some of this already built in about late term travel. And so I just want to mere some of that as just an opportunity to save some money. And yeah, all right. Who would you like me to start with, I apologize. The supervisor Garmin. Supervisor Garmin? No. Supervisor Jones? Yes. Supervisor Craig? Yes. Supervisor Keltstrom? Yes. And Supervisor Rickard? Absolutely not. Past his three two. Supervisor Craig? Yes. Supervisor Keltstrom? Yes. And Supervisor Rickert? Absolutely not. Pastis 3, 2. We're going to move on to, I believe we're hopping to- We are on R10. R, oh that's right. That's right. All right, moving on to R10. Tara, welcome. Thank you. How are you doing? I'm doing well, Chairman Christ. Senior planner. Yes, sir. Did you walk across? Did you take a cab? I walked in the heat. There you go. Thank you for coming. Absolutely. Good afternoon, members of the board. Chairman, members of the public and attendance today. Again, I'm Tara Petty, Senior Planner, Department of Resource Management. and the item before you today is on amendment 24-0002 for Mr. Robert Nash. The project site is a 97.33 acre portion of a larger 99.87 acre parcel, which is located adjacent to an east of 10, 9, 25 Old Oregon Trail in Reading, and that's District 4. The applicant is proposing to change the zoning for the project site from the exclusive agricultural combined with agricultural preserve zone district to the limited agricultural zone district. The proposal would make the zoning consistent with the current agricultural small scale cropline and grazing general planned land use designation. And it would reduce the permissible minimum acreage from 48 hours to five. Absent a proposal for a land division. The proposed on a memo would not increase the allowable residential density on the subject property. The applicant stated that the purpose of their proposal is for a state planning and there are negotiations to place the property in a conservation easement to conserve the land and primarily for agricultural use There will be no general fund impact as a result of approval of this project and the planning commission reviewed it on January 13th 2024 and by a 40 vote the commission recommended that the board as supervisors approve this on amendment number 24-002 So with that is recommended that the board take the specific actions as described in the written staff report that was provided with the agenda packet. And that includes my short presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions y'all may have. It was short, but it was succinct and we appreciate that. Absolutely. Well, we do have some public comment on it. Oh, we know we don't. These were open time. I'm sorry. Is there any more discussion or do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to approve. Okay. So we have a motion by supervisor Kelschem. supervisor Garmin, you second? I had my, okay. I'm going to second it. We're not taking a vote. I'm sorry. Supervisor Rigger. Okay. Well, I wanted to, I was going to make the motion. I was going to. But anyway, I just wanted to say, Bob, thank you for moving forward on this. And, but I'm just saying that this is a good thing for Shasta County. Anytime we can conserve land, in my opinion, I think it's a good thing to maintain the rural atmosphere of this county and preserve that open space that's so important and You're close enough to town that a lot of young kids are gonna benefit from it getting out and Experiencing getting their hands dirty and getting out and enjoying your property. So thank you for doing this and I appreciate it Chair right I just want to make sure that although we did not receive any public comment cards for this item We should still open the public hearing as well as ask for any public comment and then close the public hearing if Okay supervisor jumps What's the conservancy on this one? Do we know? You mean this particular Agency? Yeah, you said it was this action was being taken for the estate because you were looking it was going to be put into a Conservation easement Was there a particular organization that was involved with that? It's the Go ahead It's kind of personal. Okay Bob Nash Landowner the conservation easement will be through the Chasteland Trust and the funding is through the California Department of Conservation or something like that. And that is a quasi-governmental organization, is that correct? Well the California Department of Conservation is government, the land trust is not, they're straight non-profit. Okay. All right, thank you. So we'll go ahead and open the public hearing. Is there anybody that would like to comment on R10 about the California Environmental Quality Act pursuing to anybody? All right, we're gonna go ahead and close the public hearing, bring it back to the board discussion. We do have a first, or we do have a motion by some advisor Kelschrom seconded by supervisor Garmin. Any other board discussion? Seeing none, I think we'll just go ahead and take the vote. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Hearing none passes unanimously, 5-0. Thank you again, Tara. Thank you, Mr. Nash. All right, so we're going to move on and go back to our remaining speakers for public comment, open time. Tim Saunders, are you here? Do not seek Tim. Shelly, do not see Shelly. Ben's up and then Leslie. and less. Good afternoon, board. It is my pleasure to use my First Amendment right to speak as a private citizen during this meeting. We are living in a particularly disturbing time for our county and a significant part of the problem lies with board chair, Kevin Cry. His attempts to take over everything and run this place like a dictator needs a check in balance. Kevin is a conflicting reputation in Shasta County. If you ask around, you'll hear mixed opinions because he's adept at fooling people, but make no mistake, a liar with good charisma is still a liar. The way Kevin manipulated the appointment of Tom Taller as the registrar of voters is a prime example of his unethical tactics. There was a questionable public statement on the county website making it seem like the entire board supported the appointment. Now that's a blatant lie. Only one person supported it, and it wasn't the whole board. Mary Rickard and Tim Garmin didn't support it. Chris Kelserman, Patrick Jones, wanted Clint Curtis. Kevin made this decision on his own, using the possibility of Joanna Francisco as a smoke screen to get what he wanted. And while a correction to the statement was eventually made, the initial misleading of the public is concerning. Now none of this is a secret. We all see what's happening. Dressing up a pig doesn't change what it is. The fact that Kevin keeps trying to spin his actions as noble is nothing short of infuriating. It gives the impression that the people claiming to root out corruption are the most corrupt themselves. It's ironic, especially considering when you see Kevin's vindictive behavior towards Tim Garman, punishing him by removing him from nearly every appointment and what's the point. Why couldn't Tim serve till the end of the year? He's being paid. Or are you looking for a way to take that away from him too? Kevin's appointment of Sean Northam to the law library is another concerning move. It reeks of nepotism and a complete disregard for diversity of thought. It's yet another example of Kevin's inability to respect differing opinions and perspectives. Kevin, it is crucial to have diversity of thought and government. A healthy and functional board should welcome and respect differing opinions. True leadership is about earning respect, not instilling fear. Unfortunately I suspect many currently fear you rather than respect you. However, I do not fear you. If others have the conviction to stand up for what they truly believe in, as I do, we can steer this community in the right direction. It's time for us to come together, respect one another, and move forward with integrity and a shared vision for a better future. Leslie Sawyer, come on up. Careful, don't laugh. You might be accused of being a meanie head. Since chair car has to sit and listen to people talk about how mean and terrible he is and they're completely unsolicited. Let's talk about something that is solicited because you sit here and make these meetings like this and be contentious so since you do that I'm going to respond to your actions only today. I was driving, listening to this meeting, doing other meetings for work and watching online, and all I see is the Merry Me Too show. Oh, I did that too. Oh, I helped with that too. Oh, when I invented the world blah, blah, blah. Okay? So you want to make everything about you. I feel like in that, maybe we need a lesson in campaigning on county time. Maybe our county busy body can do some research on that and report it to the FBI or whoever that is that we need to report that too. But it seems like every other item is either divisive or a comment to point to how you too also did this, this, and this for the community. Why are things in the county, and especially District three, if that's the case, not better since you and your pro, big government voting record have been in office. Everything that is a big government program, free money for this, free money for that, you think we need it. So since that is working so well for your district, how come things aren't better? And how desperate are you to make everybody so divided and play on the emotional ties of the community that you're going to attack? hardest working most transparent CEO we've ever had. That this morning was disgraceful. It was despicable. You should be embarrassed by insinuating that he had any malice, any working against you, anything to show up to an event when as he stated, you were out on medical leave. So you couldn't attend. If you can't attend the meeting here and do your job, you can't attend a meeting up there, but you want to say that he's somehow maliciously out to get you in your community. When he has done nothing but support every single one of you, even when you're wrong. He has been the hardest working CEO. You should be embarrassed. You should feel appalled and do not for a moment think that you're going to live that down because I will make sure that that action this morning is posted for everybody to see because that was hateful, disgusting and embarrassing. Also, since you want to politicize it, what portion of your salary? Because if it's 5%, 5%, 10%, even up to 50, it's nowhere near his retirement portion that he would contribute it. Supervisor Garmin. Thank you, Chair McRae. I just want to correct the record. It wasn't Mary. You're brought it up this morning. It was me. Yeah, you got to get the right person. Supervisor Rigger. The other thing is Mr. Jones isn't saving the county anything under retirement. You have to serve five years before your retirement is even invested. So you got to have your facts right. Supervisor Jones. Supervisor Rigger, I served for eight years before and then four. So that would count. You just, you have in trouble with numbers I guess. Yeah. all right. Yeah, we're going to move on. So this is this is public comment, which is now completed. Stephanie, are we going to consent? Yes, chair. All right, thank you so much. Appreciate your notes and your quips here. The question I have is I believe at one time I had heard C2 was going to be pulled. I got a message that it is no longer being pulled. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. The only item that I show as being pulled for discussion is by supervisor Ricker and that is item C4, the appointment to the public Health Advisory Board. Item C4, okay. And then I did have a question on C8. And is that Laura, Ms. Birch, could I ask you a question? I would have, I'm assuming that is going to be a Miguel issue. He is not current. Do you know if C8 is something, I mean, when we had a public commenter come up earlier, I don't know the individual other than a few messages or emails, maybe a few of us have received. Councillor Larmer. I may be able to answer your question. These contracts are generally related to child protective services and public guardian cases where they do evaluations for the court process. Okay. So in terms of placement, things, I mean, again, like I don't, you know, what I've learned is people can come up to this podium and say whatever they want. So I just wanted some time to tracking that down, but again, we can pass this now and then we can revisit that if I need to. Chair would you like to remove C8 for the next meeting? I was just curious, I don't know. It's hard because the one thing is when we do talk about children, I don't want to be and it means something to me when somebody does come up and speak who isn't a frequent flyer that doesn't come up and speak the seven items a day. So when someone makes the time and effort to come back, I don't know. But, Laura, I mean, I also don't want to slow that down. Normally, this is a phone call I'd have with Miguel, but Miguel isn't in. So, specifically, is the question? Well, just on the approve the agreement with on C8. Yeah, for the psychological evaluations. So pretty much it's standard for child welfare to have different psychologists that we are contracted with to do psychological evaluations. And those are generally ordered by the court to have one. And sometimes it could be because of visitation, it could be because of placement, it could be for a variety of reasons to ensure the safety of the child. So that's what that would be for it. Has nothing to do with anybody who is here previously as far as I'm aware. So we definitely need to have these resources and tools. Okay. And like I said, normally most of these types of things aren't huge issues because I'm able to talk to staff who are making the recommendation or I'll certainly relate to that. Supervisor Rickard? Yes, I also want to say I'm going to vote no on C2 because it has to do with the charter county again. I think we need to get the charter county in place before we start making amendments to it. This is just another one that was not, it was put in the consent calendar. If we want to pull it, it's a vicar, if you're against the voters. No, I'm just saying I'm voting no. Okay. I'm not against the voters. This is a change and I'm not against the voters. Well, it goes to the voters. It's putting words in my mouth. It goes to the voters. All right, so, Supervisor Rickert is voting no on C2. Stephanie, please make sure you make a note of that. C4 has been pulled, so we'll take, is there a motion to approve the consent minus C4 being removed? And it has noted that Supervisor Rick record is voting no on C2. We have a motion from supervisor Jones. Second. We have a second from supervisor Kelschrom, under board discussion. Supervisor Rickard. On number C4, you know, I- We're not taking C4. Okay. Well, that's what I thought I was supposed to be talking about that. No, we pulled it. All right, so we're- Not going to discuss that. Again, so we will talk, we have a motion to approve the consent calendar, minus C4, which is pulled, some of us at record, and then C2, you're voting no-don. And we have a motion and a second on that. All those in favor. Aye. Opposed? With the exception of C2 passes 5-0. 4. 4. Yeah, but I still believe it was speaking. Hey, please don't y'all from the stands. You're not paying attention to them. So now we're going to take C4. Now we're going to take C4. So supervisor Rickert or was it supervisor Garmin that pulled C4? Supervisor record, pulled C4, supervisor records. Okay, do we want to do public comment first? No, go ahead and explain why you pulled it. In for clarification, we did take public comment for all consent calendar items during public comment open time. So, whether or not this item was pulled or not that public comment has already been had. That's right. So, Vizier Rigger. So I just wanted to say and I pulled the Shasta County Health and Human Services Agency Public Health Advisory Board by-laws. And I read through that to see what qualifications we're looking for, the responsibilities of the Public Health Advisory Board, what they shall include in it. There's several items, this actually goes on several pages. But one is the assist the agency assessing the community's health, including strengths and gaps in the public health system, including rural and or underserved areas and help develop strategies to meet and met needs. And it goes on, I won't read the whole thing. But I have, I don't see resumes and qualifications on these two nominations for these positions and so that's what concerns me. I did end up talking to Cam, she's a very nice lady. We had a really nice conversation. But she, I think worked for a parodonist and that kind of thing, but I'm looking for people. I know that two people I have appointed over the years for my representative. One was a physician's assistant from Fawre River Valley, because I think it's very important that the rural health community be represented. And then another, when she stepped down, I appointed a nurse that had like 35 years of experience. And so I really feel like we need people that are qualified and we need to feel confident that they have a resume that backs up their interest and passion in serving on this board. We're replacing someone, we're gonna be taking off Judy Minor, and we need to have people that will be able to be of that caliber and of that level to be able to replace these openings. So I know that, but I'm saying as she is gone, we need to have people that will step in and be able to fulfill the obligations. It's a very important board in this county. And so I take it very seriously and I think it's people that need to have many, many years of experience in the health community. That's all I'm saying. Okay. So I have one of the appointments. I know Supervisor Jones has the one for his district for me. I mean, Aaron Hunter, I believe has a, I know it, at least has a bachelor. I think he has a master's in exercise science. And again, Supervisor Ricker, the one thing, as we talk about public health and opinions, like I hear the word experience constantly thrown around, which I think is important. But if you don't have other people's opinions and outlook, because I think what you would do, what I would do, maybe completely different. And that's the beauty of each of us having the ability to put somebody on the public health board. So, I mean, again, it's just, it's not about being argumentative, it's just that we probably have very different different directions and different beliefs of what public health is. With that, we will go ahead and take a vote. Oh, council Larmer. Mr. Chairman, because this item was pooled, it essentially becomes a regular item and you should take comments if you have the cards on those. Okay, so well we don't have any cards for this one in particular but if Dolores you'd like to come up, you would mention, is anybody else like to speak to C4? Or they had to have a card in for that, correct? Yeah, okay. So the policy would need to be followed essentially because they wouldn't know that the item was going to be pulled Oftentimes ahead of time, okay, you would have to have some leniency in that Perfect Go ahead Those that's what you need to pay attention you don't know some of the rules so you talk about Broken clock is right once and twice a day. Be quiet. I'm so sick of you. You know, you talk about picking people who are experienced. You try to pick people who basically... It's more like who you want, really. It's going to follow your rules, OK? On this item C4, the last meeting, you actually, all of you actually appointed a person by the name K. Colby. And you talk about kids caring about kids. Well, you know that K. Colby's under investigation too, because she's part of the chamber. She's the secretary. No, I'm sorry, the treasure who actually promotes what you claim to care. Kids, here you go, vaccines. She promotes vaccines and she's a dictator just like you. But I think that's why you said, you know her. You actually know her. And that's pretty sad that you pick somebody who actually promotes vaccines against you know you can't detect yourself how can you pick somebody who actually goes against what you claim to be for you know protecting kids I can't believe it but you know you're so smart you're so intelligent it just shows that you're not. You guys don't do your homework at all to do the background who you pick and who you appoint. Chamber of Commerce is under investigation for criminal activity. I'm not sure this is about. It is. It's not. It is. It's under the C4. C4. That is, you appoint people that you don't even know. And she's under investigation. You don't know how to research. You don't pay attention. You don't care. Miss Lucero, it is contained with the two names in C4, not those that were appointed in the past. Excuse me, are you the one who runs the meeting? You know, don't please do not interrupt. Do not interrupt me. Cutter mic. Go ahead, cut it. You by the way, you might still be right to speak. Thank you. Moving on. Go ahead. I still have time. You can't do that, but you know what? It's okay. I'm going to go ahead. We're going to go ahead, we're going to go ahead and take our vote. To see four, we'll start super underdiscounted supervisor Jones. I'm glad you put this on video because now I've got better grounds to come out there all of you. Supervisor Jones. So when you take a look at the current members in the past, you see guys like Mike Mingus, which we all know and like Mike, but he has no medical background and he's doing a good job there. And so, and then also Christian from the family at YMCA. And I think we also on this had been Hannah, Deputy DA, which again had no medical experience. So, everything up here, supervisor Jones, I think until the end of this calendar year is going to be politicized as best as possible. And the thing for me is I feel, I don't even want to say ashamed or appalled, but you look at like Kim Betish and Aaron Hunter who are stepping up to do something such as jumping on these types of boards and to have their names and efforts so clouded before they even have a chance to get sworn in and move forward is a shame. But I think that's what people have to understand they're stepping into in politics, not just in Shasta County anymore, but across this country. So we're going to take a roll call vote. Let's start with Supervisor Rickert to my left. Just before I say that, if you look at the membership breakdown, there's people from the faith community, they're represented ethnic population business community. That's where Mike Mangas and those people fit in. It doesn't mean they have to be part of the medical community. Okay. I'm going to vote no. We're doing a roll call vote. So go ahead. Chairman, can I get a motion in a second. I make a motion that we approve Aaron Hunter and Kim Betish for districts 1 and 4 for the Public Health Advisory Board. I'm sorry. Okay, so I have a motion by myself. Supervisor Jones is the second. And I apologize, which supervisor did you want me to start with for that role call though? It does not. Supervisor Rickard's fine. Supervisor Rickard? No. Supervisor Kielstrom? Yes. Supervisor Kray? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. And Supervisor Garmin? No. Passes three to two. Okay. So that is consent. CEO, actually, I usually start Stephanie with yourself. Is there anything misplanking from the clerk of the board? No chair, that is all. CEO, record, is there any remaining items? No additional items, Mr. Chair. With that, ladies and gentlemen, drive safe and have a great day. We are adjourned.