you you you you you you you That does evasion the designated agent for state plan approval. And so that can just be answered for the work session. I appreciate it. That's right. So we're exploring that in our staff workhouse. It's kind of an interesting role where the planning commission is advisory to the administrative agency. And a couple items on consent, a burst of insurance renewal, police by camera contract approval, and annual performance reviews of Council of 1-2 years. About putting closed session. Then we'll cancel the June by... Just be clear, that's a review of the, well, we are right, what we have got after writing app for performance reviews, it's's not getting the performance reviews, which will happen. So it seems to be still too neat to turn. Technically, exactly. It's just us. Yeah. So then I canceled the June 9th, regular meeting, get back together for the June 16th regular meeting joined by the CACC and the union. Action on the turntax kind of sewer agreement. Prefer the affordable living policy to the planning commission. The easement vacation people are watching 10 second really on budget amendment, second reading and public hearing on council salaries, action on council benefits by resolution and action on the initiating resolution for the the site plan approval process and action designation up to the agent. The, with that review is, we'll be asking, we'll be asking, we'll be the director of planning for the city. And the account for the point to use compensation resolutions and then the side. We're proposing that rather than doing back-to-back regular sessions that we cancel the end 23rd regular session. of the figure eye on that. But it's the way we're planning it. Then in July, we would have a discussion with the city council, particularly invite the DDA, but have a discussion on the Virginia Village project. Really what we wanna discuss is in advance. What our next step would be. Review, and initiating resolution for utilities and facilities, comp plan chapter of the Discussed Planning Commission salaries. And we have the three franchise agreements. And what the potential code changes with respect to the subject of vision and site management process. What's being that easement vacation, and achieving resolution on utilities, not plan. So I guess Simon would be there for or so assembly resolutions honoring false trade residents and three franchise agreements. And then first reading referrals to the planning commission of the code changes which site plan approval. in the page. The 28th meeting is public hearings on those three franchise agreements. I think we will have some additional items that will come up between now. Maven, but the office listed now. On the fourth, you'll get the report from the Solid Waste Task Force. Under final work special on the fourth building policy. And you'll be looking at potential changes to real estate tax rate and solid waste fee, depending on the recommendations of the solid waste test for some particular events that's the direction that we believe will be going in. In August 11th, adoption of the Affordable Living Policy report on CFP strategic priorities as an action on the realistic tax rate at Solid Waste V, first reading. It was second reading then scheduled and September. Those are the main highlights. I've been getting pain recently about graing or minkin. Because the 16% plants come out. I don't know if that's something that long. We did need to pass that for a table and that stuff. I think I shall live. We'll have a pretty good city council and then go out to the public for our information on that. Okay. Yeah. And this is what's good. What else? Did you all see that email? We got yesterday about growth, you know, and the ongoing issues on growth, what's feeding the congestion and yesterday, more stuff with the backup that intersections, I'm it was on Grove with speeding, the congestion, and yesterday, I'm worse with the backup of the intersections, the hook of the modern west, but basically, that's what I got from that Grove. And the resident had reached out, and I think I sent it to staff, at least two farms. Yeah, because I was gonna forward, I just checked with the resident to see if I was trying to go ahead and forward it to the speed manager's office and chief least speech so that they would, so you could see the benefit of the actual message in terms of 30 number of views that the ink from maybe continued multi-pronged approach. I'm a general question of when things have gone through traffic comming or any, we've already done one round of speed bumps and things, and there's still issues, I hope that they have to restart, because we've had a number of ones where people have said, Hey, we got traffic calling ready, but there's still issues. Like, how did they have to restart? Because we've had a number of ones where people have said, hey, we've got traffic calling already, but there's still issues. Like, what does the process say? Like, how do we address those? Given that we clearly don't have that, there was an issue, enough for a hard solution like a speed bump. And if we go out and re-measured, and we, people, just locked them at the bottom of the queue. I think there all be like a five year old here for the others, just like we're sorry, we can't put that in. And it's just so, you know, these problems just don't, I'm sorry. I don't think there's a solution to go about. And it is a street that has, has a configuration as a, this street is used by the public, it has high volume. Whatever we book houses down, it's, you know, 85% tiles, well below the ceiling, that's so it's. Yeah, this was even just like, how the cars are jammed packed on it and that the cars can get packed one another and a concern about whether emergency vehicles can event, access, houses on the street because they don't level up traffic jams that are there, current and on a regular basis. It's primarily probably the two rush showers and school times right. The rest of the time it's probably pretty unty. And I'm wondering once, um, there are all church kids fixed, that might help, because that's all that same. We're avoiding that stretch of... Sure. I mean, yes, there was just... Exactly. I know it's the light and everything. Yeah, I was trying to think... My life thought was there is, I think that I think that's first, there's the street that, there's still that, yeah, I mean, I don't know, there's a stop sign there, I don't know, that we're slow people down some way. There is a stop sign, there's a stop sign, there's a church and a group, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's a, it is a, if we think it's a temporary, like three month issue, while we get through the paving like we can ask the police to pay a little attention that we forcefully true because there are like the first report I got was both by Baphing Beacons which obviously is good surname. three month issue while we get through paving like we can ask the police to pay little attention and forcefully. Because there are like the first report I was both by having bosses, which obviously is concerned. They got a big ol' thing. They give us some for that, but extra attention and forcefully help in neighborhood. And then we'll see when things stabilize, whether we still see the same issue. Speeding, I mean, congestion out, but we can do much about. So, I'm going to draw. You know, if it's a a two periods and you view it as a neighborhood street and not a cut through street and traffic should be on other streets that you potentially should have a like no three traffic during, you know, four to two two hour periods in order to cut down the amount of people that are using it as like a thoroughfare as opposed to a neighbor on the street. So those are in their place. No. No. That would be a good idea. Good idea. Against the end of the person. Well, they are in force. And it is a really difficult thing for us. I mean, you can talk about the most angry people as you exceed when you get a ticket for that. I mean, it's the police struggle with it often times tell them judges just like that. They don't like those types of regulations. So I'm sharing that we do enforce it, but it's not an easy thing to enforce it. And Tom, too. What, Mr. Sharon, we've talked about this before about, you know, we don't have the ability to put those speed cameras up because it's not school zone. What do you mean, I'm just thinking, you know, because we continue to get these emails, put a speed camera down. Could we find who, who have an email on the ready to say, this is not an our ability to put up speed cameras? Here's the email enrichment. You should be more familiar, you know, be able to answer it, you know, because I think we have talked about this and talked about this and we don't have that ability. But, you know, I think people blame us for not doing anything, and there's our hands are sort of packed with that thing, but especially with the speed cameras. So I'm really wondering like, is there a, is there a hate? We agree with you. Here's the channel and to mention, yeah, here's an email return. Let him know that we need the ability to be able to put the cameras up in. Cause we just hear this again and again and again. And you know, I'm honest trying to, I remember you, but we preschools are compounded just as like, as to be, Well, there's no school of any sort around the gravel, but did we ever look into like preschools? Or did it depends? I feel like we raised it originally, because I had suggested one, maybe Spraw was a great place instead of parking a cabaret. We weren't picking tracks, we came here with coming out of this broader, I think Sally had determined that the preschools didn't count. Let's start with our own representative, and get Senator first, make sure their own board has I'm not sure down to. Okay. Well, let's start with our own representative, the one who's under the first, make sure their own board has. I'm not sure they are. I mean, I haven't heard much while I went to the other. I will say that the bill when it came up, and I remember the hearing, a dozen of groups, law enforcement, public safety, elected officials all lined up in support of it. and it was me and I had to buy leadership. And what happens is it gets in a political crossfire. The Republican said, always a public street and in my privacy is being fined, which of course has absolutely no base to some of that. And then you had the concern from the other party about, oh, you only put them near minority areas and therefore my minorities will be discriminated against because too many of them are being pulled over. Well, the answer is you can deal with that. But so far, that's created a legislative blocking. I think the need to find ways to get through it. But I think we ought to start with our own senator and delegate the saying, we really need you to advocate for this. Because I know we're also getting hearing it a lot from Great Falls now. And I think that's coming. I mean, that's always been, but particularly, letting I've been the mayor and I have been hearing over the past month or two that the residents like Great Falls are really. Yeah. Well, they fall. I mean, any street, and this is where I think it might be, and I'm interested in EPW work, is to really measure which of these streets are being used as commuter routes, and then especially gear your speed, your enforcement, and your electronic enforcement to those routes. And I think what you're going to find is that with growing population, and more like cross-adons of broadsery, you're in a inadvertent effect of then creating a whole new pattern of commuting on streets that have been made with... That's parallel to broadsery. Yeah, where there are connections. And I see an increase in my people getting off of Washington, going down Great Falls Street. So in the past, that was maybe a secondary route. It's rapidly decline. You know, I think when I'm going to high school, I do it myself. Yeah. Well, we're having a 3.0 data. You know, like, you know, We need not measures all of our volumes on main streets, so the secondary streets, something that we're able to get from V.Data. So if you talk about like, you know, uh, uh, be not measures all or ballrooms on main streets, the secondary streets, something that is a potential to get from V dot data. So we can talk about realistically, whereas the volume and where should we target our efforts. I think we can have at, you know, spending the morning at Oak and Fulton, three Marines a week. There's a four by stop sign that is continually run, continually. I mean, nonstop people blow through that going out those to cut through. And please come through and they'll come through every, you know, a couple of months and they could just write tickets all day long just in that one intersection and people would want to refer away stuff trying to cut through from, you know, the link into the broad. And I'm like, what do you do? Like every, like, and you have that it. Great fall, then little falls. Like I'm making, and maple and the continual, like, stop sound, like you could just rotate your place through every, like, right, take its all day long. So you're gonna be getting a sense of, so let's put a pen and this also for the Ledge program. This fall. Yeah, I'll score. Okay. What else? any scheduling things that I have a few. Memorial day details. Yeah. I have a query that Memorial Day would lunch with grand marshals, but 12 o'clock at the falls. I'll just invite it to that. I send a e-mail to staff next Thursday, May 29th. FCDOT is having a meeting about Shrews Road. It was our project with our NVTA money, but we're having FCE, Eric's County run it. Sure. People want to go. It's a community meeting I think that Eric's County Department of Transportation is just following with the community about the plans. Vanessa? Next Thursday I want to say 29th at like so called. I'm sorry. What was the plan? I was so, where you were years ago, we had gotten an BTA money to record the connection from the WNOD all the way up to the HECOX seven intersection on the road in 2020. So in 2020, there was a pedestrian futility in Fairbanks County along that stretch. I think the whole search had won the money with the BTA and we'd ask the partner with Fairbanks County, given the jewelry lands actually in Fairbanks County, so they're running the project. Okay. But clearly it's something we care a lot about too. It comes up to the city intersection staff in Chintan. And there would be a really important route school. Right. I think that's the- It would widen the path and sidewalk. So in all the lights, in particular, we're- We're- Everyone's- the bicyclists are crossing on the tree. That part of the touches the WNOD profit. I think it crossing on tree. That part. I don't know if it touches the W-N-D profit. It doesn't go that. Yeah. So it goes basically just pass the concrete plan and then takes over all the W-N-D, and you take a right to get a tree. Okay. And there's a multi-use path there, but it will upgrade it. I'm going to be the tie end of the seven and a five intersection creates we're doing. Yeah, we have information on that as part of the. That's, uh, that's a key part of our planning side to take it out from there and get all the way to Mustang. I like. That last 200 yards. All the money for that, so that's critical to make all that work. I believe it's a great opportunity. We've got some money, and so what's make it work? And all the pepper and tiny raisins really want to get to the great stuff on our corner of seven and eight hogg and so they want to stay ways to get there. So there's there especially interested in this. Can I go back to that? Not this is obviously more verbatim than loyal day lunch and then web time to meet are we pursuing we're marching walking in grand standing still and I could have missed the email. It's a normal thing. I don't think we have details. We have detailed slides probably like I want the reviews. What we don't get. We just confirm where we went. We could be in for that time. We hope that will make the new. We'd like to join us for that. Great. Great. The Samaritan ceremony. I'll say that. Great. That's great. Yes, ceremony 11. 11. Great. Well, it's been went to. and we think we want to gather at the corner of Lincoln and West probably 30, I think we want to gather at the corner of Lincoln and West probably 30, I think it's been a normal time. Veronica is a peak confirmed. I think parts that be great. Mary bats on here, but she had asked us a while ago whether we want to consider a resolution for Dr. Newman's retirement. Sometime before. Sometime June. time before to come in June. People have opinions about that or just let that in from the day that June should be existing meeting. Yeah, your objection. Yeah. Yeah. Let's plan on that. Here and since you're here, Mary, both isn't here, but you have mentioned a June or given finance meeting, but I don't think that we ever scheduled like the June. We went straight to September. So I don't know if you wanted to touch pace with Mary Beth if you were seeking to do one or if you or if it was just like routine, like by habit that you have mentioned the June budget and finance meeting Well, transition by now. Yeah, I would like to have one. Yeah, but I think there was some discussion or some thoughts mentioned about talking about the budget process. Yeah, the timing. And then if we want to look at the revenues month by one kind of business and their opportunity. So I think it would be great to have your expert opinion before you head to the West Coast. That's your own way. I'm gonna say that. So I mean, I always like, when I was in a school board, so I always appreciated me with you all and sort of going and we're like, what work? I didn't, you know, I think I can have to have this every year because some years are more smooth than others. but I know that I'm sure there are people on the council that also have thoughts. I'm pretty glad, better. Sorry, so normally it would be the third priority, which is the 20 that also have thoughts. I'm pretty glad, but I'm sorry. So normally it would be the third Friday, which is the 20th. And I think why I'm here that week. Yeah, I like that before I am on the 20th. No, I don't know if that's passed. But then the week of the 3rd and 3rd at all. I know you're going to be that's going to be a. That's a week for you. That's for the rest of the Friday that we're using. Are you gone this 13th? I should I go on next week and then back on Thursday the fall and brief. So about the 11 days out. We have enough of a month's data and revenues for the annual? I guess I had to for earlier before Karen really hasn't agreed. 13th. Is that too early? Oh, you're gone now. Okay. So, and then we could do the regular 20. The 20th is what have been discussed with Mary. But I'm going to have to look along as. You're not here on the table. Okay. I'm not. But I'm not literally in tell be like. Yeah. We could always pay now or send our just like an email with some of those. For fun ones we have. Yeah. The end of the day. Do you porn for us at finance? I guess this is the question. Yeah. Sounds like no. Like about Aaron. Just seeing your budget finance too. Yeah. And it's just. I'm here. So three of you. Three to your. Oh, you're not. So just a vacuum. The steam can do. You're warm. Yeah, I can send it via staff on all the time. Peace. I mean, I have a fair number of conversations with school board people about. I mean, trying to get this to work better and sort of not changing the schedule so much is like the level of engagement that we need on that a back half side of our budget and maybe what, you know, the schools might want to consider in terms of like their own meetings and anticipating meeting of meeting or anticipating meeting like the joint work session that last bit before going into final adoption. I was thinking that same thing during the discussion and maybe, you know, why can't I remember the date during the where you you have the the bad numbers came in you know but sort of like you know right so we meet in December and then say okay we're gonna meet again in early April to see like how the numbers are actually coming in. Can I portray that very well? No I know. Yeah I'm gonna break the thingies and have like 12s that mid-April budget and finance meeting hopefully we'll be able to start thinking about a dedicated meeting that they have to go through and what they might need to discuss that isn't as late as it was and then potentially having the final work session as a joint work session or one they have on their characters. I don't think you got how, but in our last thing I overlaps with what's very great is, because I'm meeting because it's very great and, right? That's good point. And I think, Christian, you know, being absent and help, I would be content and helping. And I think my thought is that when we issue guidance in December, whatever the guidance may be, for both general government and schools, you should probably have a good term in mind, like what a worst case scenario might look like and start planning for that and start that work between December and March, rather than wait for the April data. Because I think what was, I was particularly disappointed, I advised that schools didn't have leverage ready, right? And they didn't have meetings with schools. And so it made the process seem congee. But realistically, I think if we start talking about December, here's what we think, right? And they didn't have meetings. And so it made this, it made the process seem conky. But realistically, I think if you start on December, here's what we think refugees might look like, but it could deteriorate. Be ready for that. And have, you know, what's below the line that you might need to cut. And that seems like a more sort of activating use their meetings. A couple scenarios. This is what we do if it's 2.5 cent cut. If it's flat, you know, like of yeah, we have to have a couple different options for any of them. And they have all their public. do if it's 2.5% cut, if it's flat, you know, like sort of, yeah, if we have to, yeah, couple different options for I do. Then they have all their public meetings between February and March when they do their budget and can talk through those options. I mean, we still do the April coordination, but I feel like, and we tried to do that, I think, in the last budget, where we said, said, hey, we're going to do a range of one to three pennies. Don't just assume best case, plan for the range of the break. I imagine council will continue to give that range because it's hard to really predict to be a example. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah, some of the conversation I had too was around the, you know, we've given a range for two years now, but that the whatever it is, the floor, the ceiling, like, see this fixed the floor fixed, the floor is fixed, or whatever it is, the ceiling is fixed. So floor checks, protecting on which way you're done. Okay, really? And so it doesn't seem as though until we're post that mid-April that, you know, our partners are really like, kind of like a new, kind of new, new, new, new, new, new, but like, oh, this is happening versus the options. I'm just curious if it's someone we say there's going to be a range. We had a similar thing last year and the council had given direction to come up with half of any niche and I think there was a better coordination, even though it was not expected, but there was a better coordination. And I really believe it was some of it had to do with Kristen not being here. And Dr. Nuren is out of the country. Michelle is not able to step up to that level to make that kind of decision. So, Kristen, was there things would have continued while you were talking about that? I mean, all the more important for talking June, given the transitions on both the themes to talk about how to land for the end of the week seven. You know, I don't think it's, it shouldn't be lost. There's a new superintendent, there's gonna be a new CFO. And the new, and it's my three, three, four-leafer player. Why it's still here, but what have a new CFO on this side? New CFO on the school side and new superintendent? So, assuming you come back with a vacation and we'll know that. Staying sharp, it's better. Okay, well it's not Jason Moore. Maybe one more thought that what I think was pretty good about this budget cycle is that people were thinking about the impact on the median homeowner as an important metric. And so when we, you know, when assessment's grew but was stuck with that same median impact, even though assessment's grew and so also in the two and a half cents and a tax rate reduction, that was pretty easy with the school board this year because I think people understood that in Metro. And I do think that's a useful net. That it should be the main guiding metric in planning as opposed to the rate. And I think, yeah, I think if you can also explain, we had a conversation about the median value and that impact on the homeowner and kind of thinking he over year in terms of budget planning. And I think that was helpful in terms of the way you were speaking about it in our conversation. And so I think for other people to kind of hear it that way that it's not just sort of, oh, like a more and more because we need to deal with the tax burden, but the reason why you want to kind of be in a certain range so that people are thinking you're over here increases and why you want them to be in that $300, $400 range versus, like, oh, you guys are just trying to give like a $50. That's crazy. The base got you down here. Yeah, I think that's exactly the point that it's like, So it's only $9 a month, well $9 a month every year, year after year, when some years are $50 a month, they shout out if they month every year, year after year, when some years are $50 a month like that, if the cumulative of that back then that is what, yeah, you're articulating and continue to discuss it in that manner. It's more helpful than just saying, but it doesn't matter, it's only $9 a month. Right. I think like how the government looking at like more the median, sorry, the median household impact versus the timing, that's really good way to look at it because that also then is looking at, you know, the tax rate in and of itself doesn't really mean anything until you look at the assessment and all that. So I think that's a really good way to look at it. I figured also it needs to be put in the context on state taxing that all of the income tax goes to Richmond and then they come back. and 4-5th of the sales tax goes to Richmond as they come back. And four fifths of the sales tax goes to Richmond as they come back. And they're important to help people understand the context. The reason why we're having the clarity not only ourselves, but the rest of the state, under state revenue policy. I mean, if you could take even a small percentage of the income tax that flows from there and bring it back, the tax rate and burden on homeowners would be a lot less. So, I think that that context, it really, in my view, is very important for people this. Yeah, schools have the same issue in. Oh, it's when we could have done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For like, you know, if some schools in Virginia get a dollar from the state, we get like 20 cents because of our local composite indexes. Yes. So the takeaway in the budget finance is what's the calendar? We're going to confirm the 20th of Friday. I mean, you want to have a voice that the Tuesday after council is not a committee, the 24th. We have a council to make that week. So. No, I don't mean for anything. I just we can just work on the schedule. I just let us know. Okay. Yeah, just let me know. Let's see. Okay. Okay. I can be there. One more. I know we're past time that I am. Three more things. More things. While we're in process. I know the maple and anode packet was noted that it's saline didn't have time to review it. So that's something that, as I've asked. Managers office in the attorney and the clerks to work out, like, I don't know why, for the details of why the maple and anode got to valley wait. But I think it's probably counts to comfort, especially for land use cases that the attorneys would have time to review it. Wait, great. That was something we're trying to work out now and build practical block and can't win white. The schedule, we really want staff to be focusing on the July meetings because they've already done a prep for the June meetings. That's what we want to be in lots. One idea on the tactics the tactics is given that looks like you make cancel two meetings, if we can be working ahead, like we use those meetings as soon as we want to vacations, we don't like we have a meeting. Essentially use that week to get caught up and work ahead possible so that we don't have an issue where Thursday meeting packets do and Thursday, and it's one of the time I get said, or anybody. And so I think our commitment from Council will try to look for opportunities to cancel meeting and remove to that three meetings a month. We're possible to give people that time to get caught up. We'll try to not have meetings, go till 1230, we're possible so we should look at realistically right now everything looks okay, but let's all keep an eye on this schedule and it sure we're not going for loading meetings because because I kind of moved to three minutes, but it may also mean that each meeting gets longer, and that's not clear either. Best. And that's all keep it eye on the schedule and it sure we're not overloading meetings. Cause I kind of moved to three meetings, but it may also mean that each meeting gets longer and that's not clear either. I still have a regurgitate that maybe starting earlier, some discussion at some point in time, just the effectiveness. I know when I look on Tuesday morning on, on our discussion on being in MDF, for instance, like on Tuesday morning, I was like, well, here are my five things that I would have said last night, but I was honestly tired by that. And like the 1130, like I don't think I'm as effective personally by a group past 11 o'clock at night. So I'm just starting out there for future discussion again. And I even felt so many councils seated. Yeah, I think you're going through all that again. And I even like that so many councils seated again. I can be going through all that again. Anyhow, you just did a good timeframe. It was more people back to work, whether that's meeting in the office is whether it's one challenging to make the back to ballstretch them. You think about. So that's one thing was the process for the packet and then Hawks go live next week, which is great. I saw all the open, the communications are already come out, so you should all be aware of the community perspective. then was the process for the packet and then Hawks go live next week, which is great. I saw all the open communications are already come out. So you should all be aware of the committee perspective. I've already started a few questions. Can you say, OPM? There's a live release and there's a YouTube video that's out now about how to treat Hawks. I saw the questions. You know, even on my city council, let's go to like promotions. I don't see those. I don't know how to make personal. I'm a man to you. Yeah, just just an example of one who's looking for them. I don't see them because they go into different folders. So I want to maybe part of the focuses. Make sure you. You know, uh, take it out of your promotions folder. And then the average, the average, uh, I would like, I need to know. So, okay, the flag, we're at SolidWreck, we've watched the video a few times. Hopefully, I mean, I don't know, is the plan for the focus this week to have the video, like where, I mean, you know, sometimes our like, counsel meeting video is there. There's like the YouTube thing, but my preference would be to actually have the one minute video and it's like the video is great, but more people need to watch it. So whenever our channels are whether it's focused, whether it's social media, but we need to get those. So we're a nine of the career Yes to all those things we'll be fighting that video a lot think Proud of it. We thought we're a nine of the Maria. Yes to all those things we'll be providing that video a lot. Think proud of it. We thought we did a good job and it's done in a way that the TV media can use those clips and so we're voting that we want that to be used by that. Um, premier, happen something over to the school to the more need and not spending that's really important for the students the parents and really can we send some student who are care facts to provide your neighbors. Maybe. Yeah, that was should tell me her. All good ideas. I turn to a question to how we're enforcing this. Because people are going to be pretty nervous crossing broad street and trusting that cars will just stop. And so I don't I'm sure the police are in coordination when these go live, but it would be helpful to pay a little more attention to whether car they're actually going to stop from office. Posting. That is, I think a key part of the messaging is that people need to really look right, look right look left again for this step out really make sure the traffic stops. That's it. Sorry y'all. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. It's heard across. It's been happening to have new pre-years in here where the traffic was awful. It's been Wigley's turn right. Pants of the night streets on all at the intersection. I have to cross. Okay. Makes a bird be a bird. I'd like to walk across the intersection like I'm by something big.