It was such a pretty high. But conditions, well the conditions were so bad I figured I'm high. What hike did you do? I hiked up to El Camp. Oh nice, because it was three out of two. A month ago in the Kindish East. How was dry? Yeah. It's one of the ones that was just too hot. There in Camp Lunch and so it should be. I love it. Yeah, it was really nice. I was just saying this before they put all of the stuff. Two board meetings wanted a bovine. The new list. I'm working. Yeah, it was really nice. It was before they put all the stuff. All the stuff. Two board meetings one day. The new list. The new list. The new list. Oh, yes. One is over. One is over. One is over. One is over. One is over. Yeah. So I used to take the last meeting. I used to take the last meeting. I know, snowshoes and go up there and put in a nice place. We hated going up, but I loved coming down. That's how you kiss me. Yeah, that has loved coming down. See, I've had some good stuff going down. So you're preaching to the choir. That's what Claude did. I did your knees. Could be. Yeah, I've done both knees. But could be. Dr. Kim at Stedman. At Stedman. Actually, he was with Stedman, minor back in 2015. He was in Denver at, I can't remember how to think about that. And then about maybe two years later, he moved up here instead. And so, yeah, why do you need one? Well, I don't know if I do a night. If I sit very long at one time, and I stand up by me, I'm going up and down, you know, on stairs. Yeah, well, yeah. It's more when I just sit and get up. Hi everybody. Hello. How's everybody? We're good. Meta Mayor. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You're really good in seeing me. Yeah, so I had a run on. Yeah. He was fabulous. I was so delighted to meet you. I wanted to come to this. I've been to Dr. Meagol. But I did. But I did. It was Wumanski. Oh, so you like? Wubarski. Wubarski. He did, I did. She was Wumanozki. Oh, so he was. Wubarski. Wubarski. He did my elbow. And I've seen Dr. Lee. And then we back again, one of my dad's and one of my best, pretty damn good. I'm trying to get an appointment. How I see all the deadlines I had I stayed on line for 17 minutes. Yeah, there you go. And then they finally gave get an appointment. I was like, oh, I'm dead. I stayed on the line for 17 minutes. Yeah, there you go. And then they finally gave me a number. They finally said they would call it out. And he lived in a number and they called it. Nothing. Probably it was that today. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to work on it. You're lucky. Yeah. I figured they'd forget me by one day. But then you call. It's like just quick and real. Yes, I must have six different. Wow. When you went to the house. Because all my joints are as desist. Oh, I know. I know. My mother used to say it's not for sissy. That's exactly it too. Oh, I wish she was alive so I could take it. Yeah, I know. I think about my mother too. My sister just broke her head on the hill. Like, had to go in Dr. Garcia did it and then it's going. I wish she was alive so I could take it. Yeah, I know I think about my mother too. My sister just broke her head. On the hill, like, had to go in Dr. Garcia and then he left morning. She's kept looking to the top. I like him. He did my elbow. He's still listening. I just talked to my son. He did her hip and she's happy with it. So proud of her. I mean, she's two weeks out. She's doing great. Did she go there, please? I mean, I know she's asking her. But did she stay somewhere? I'm just in the house where they gave her hair. There she go, right home. She went actually to my place, because I have to go to my home. Oh, yeah, see, I have to go home. I'm getting hip issues. She was happy. I mean she's recovering really well. She's pretty Yeah, she's going on three weeks She's two and a half That's right. Yeah, yeah, because when my right I Couldn't drive Yeah, I feel like it's a little harder because my friend also just had me search with Dr. Lou. I have the two of them I was running up to ask them down my house. I can't tell her that I was like, I can't see subsides all the time. Yeah, but they're both doing great, but I think they need to take long time. It does. It's a, it's a, it's a much more painful. I should say, it's a great, it's a great way to dress. You probably know too, you know damn their backs and rotator cuff sets forever. That's a bad idea. I should say, this is the first reason to have this. You probably know that. You know, damn, they're backs and rotator cuffs. That's for ever. That's a thing. We do to actually this. We do. We do. We just miss it. I was like, oh, it's actually breaking. It's a nice guy. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know anything. So, yet, you always were just granted a huge role, because whoever loved the dance would have to give it your mission, as a like access for so many of us. I mean, you know, it's just great to have a girl like whoever loved a doctor would have to give her her mission as a like access for a son. And Joe also has a relationship. He has a perfect two voice. Now, it's the two-year-old. Who could start it? Who could leave for the sick guy? Yeah, that's four-year-old. So I'm not going to bug you. I'm only here until April 1st, but this summer, when you're breathing. I'm a boss, right? I know. I think if you want to, I think it's okay. Okay, okay, great. Yeah, that about it. I don't know. I don't want to sit in I just want to sit over here and just You want to sit in your chair? No, this is my old chair I'm not sure if you're going to be able to see the flag. I'm going to see the flag. May I call this meat? I want to send your chair. Yeah, no. This is my old chair. Yeah. All the chairs are good. And who can you do? All the flags around you. May I call this meeting to order? And, Debbie, would you mind doing roll call? Please. Yes. Elaine Burrell. Here. Maja Decker. Melanie Falk. Yes. Lindsey 48. Here. Elizabeth Iocola. Elaine LeBun. Here. Helen Leake. Here. Agnes Mossarns. Diana Ocean here. Linda Renek here. Joyce Shank. Grey wire. And last ever. Here. Great. Would somebody like to propose to prove the meeting minutes from the last meeting? I propose. Also good. Great. Thank you. And then I was wondering if Elise would play Elise? Elsie. Elsie, excuse me. Oh, you're in the bathroom. Elsie would mine presenting for the Anderson Ranch. Thank you. You should speak into the microphone. So those who are joining on mine, you can hear the perfect. And then it should be perfect. Perfect. Oh, Maya is here. Oh, yes, she just joined. Okay. Thank you, Debbie. Yes, I just gave her access. Okay. So she is on the... Yes. Is Maya? Yes. Is Maya? Yes. She's on the screen. She's on the screen. She's on the screen. She's on the screen. She's on the screen. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Amy. Well, as you know, last year we presented the proposal and we're excited to show you today the locations to propose locations that Lindsay saw early or last year I think. Yeah, I met with some of the town of Snowmass Village Parks and Trails Department and we walked through a few sites and really identified too that we felt would be feasible to add some outdoor sculptures for this project and aesthetically appropriate. So if we could go, Debbie, sorry, to the next slide, to the one that we see the locations. Thank you. Elsie, sorry to do this, but I was wondering if you just wanted to tell people who you are and what you're all around. Yes, of course, I'm sorry. Well, I'm LC Rango. I'm from Mexico City. I moved here three years ago and I've been in the ranch one. I'm the development and artistic coordinator and I'm in charge of the sculpture exhibition we have in the ranch and that's why I'm here to present to you this. Yeah so very excited to be here thank you for having me. So to dive into the locations these are the two options that we've seen in the 10 of snowmass, the first one is Tumbleg Trailhead. So you can see we can, and then, I mean, on the second one, lower snowmass right about. We can go to the second slide, the next slide, sorry. So for the Tumbleg Trailhead, we can do it. two. Could be the left side of the trail or the right side of the trail. It really depends on the next proposals that we will make for the sculpture, the location that you could choose. So it depends if the sculpture is more bright fold that you wanted to come out in the roundabout or in the trailhead. We have April Polso that it's also more playful for kids if they are going to be doing the hike or they could be around the sculpture as well. So it really depends on the sculpture to go to the location. So if we can go to the next one, thank you, Debbie. And this one is the lower snowmouse around about. You, when you come down, is when you see it, you would see this sculpture instead of coming from the highway. And LC, is it the same, or would it be the same sculpture, or would the sculpture be adapted to the specific location? Yeah, it would be adapted to the location, because it depends on what we want the sculpture to be. If we wanted to be interactive, it would be in the trail head. And it would be just a piece of art, not to be touched, not to be interacted with. It would be in the roundabout, yes. And sorry, I'll see. Were these spots approved by the people from town, by Andy or they were? Okay. I mean mean assuming that the sculptures are appropriate and but he indicated it would be okay to possibly walk through this with me and do noted these is the areas for potential locations. Oh great. Yeah thank you. So sorry we. Sorry, we just try to make sure that people online can hear us because there's some problem with the audio. So just give us a minute. Helen can hear us, correct? Helen. Hello. Yes, I can hear. Oh, sorry. I think I'm, I think I can just press. Myas computer. If I'm too loud, let me know. No, I think you sound great. Perfect. So we could go to the next one so we can see the proposed artist. And you can see the pieces that we are. So we did a lot of, I mean, or research about the potential artists that we could bring. We were based on our timeline logistics, and we're working currently with these two artists, the ranchists close with them. We're close with our gallery in New York, and it would be really good potential artists to have, not just because of that, but also their art is being exposed in many places and it could bring a lot of community and to the snowmass. And a lot of people that could see it and it really depends on what we want the piece to be for the town of snowmess. But so these we have Mark Hanford. He just installed piece in New York, the four, the red one that you could see over there. These three pieces could be potential pieces for us in either locations. They're not interactive but they have these pop-up color that we are very interested in and especially in our mountains. They bring more people, vibrancy and interest to move around. He's based in New York and Miami, and these works have already been done, and it would be just the installation and shipping to deal with that we were very happy with that, because it's not a lot of budget and moving around. Sorry, what size is a star? I can send you the details. So it's like my size. Yeah. Okay, it's like here. But I'll send you the precise measurements. Sorry. And is this the moment where we can discuss the art or not now? I have one more. So if you want, I can share you the next one. And then if you want more proposals, more, we can fear it out. So if we can go to the next one, thank you, Debbie. The next artist we have is Oscar Tuesan. He's familiar with Aspen. He did that installation of the concrete one in the Aspen Art Museum. That one is an interactive piece. These artists does more of that. Interactive pieces that you can sit around, be with them, and enjoy them while you are doing something around them. So the one up in the corner would be a proposal for the trailhead, specifically, because kids can walk inside of the piece, play around, and it would also bring a pop of color, and during the summer or fall, it would look within amazing, and playful with the community as well. The Concrete One is a proposal it could be in either locations or the range. It's concrete, it can be a different piece as well, but it's a different concept too. Is that a fountain? It's fire. It's fire. So it's a fire running there and it has two benches on the side. Okay. And it's activated with the community. Both pieces would be. So yeah, these are the two artists, please give, if you have any questions. And yeah. Does anybody have a question? I do. the prior artist, I'm just wondering, I mean, I was thinking that the art would have some sort of connection to SNOMAS and I'm just wondering, I mean, the closest I can get is the snowflake, but what would the four or the vertical sculpture have just as a connection to snowmass? Or did we not intend for this sculpture to have a connection? Yeah. I mean, I think that it depends on us, what you, what we want to bring in. The intention of this is to have a bribe and bivin' piece and bring people to it. But if we want something more organic or something more for that represents the town of Snowmass, we're happy to make another proposal for We'll do it. I mean, if that's what we want. I may be in the minority, but that's just what is. I had envisioned. I agree. I find these pieces very urban. I think they're very interesting, but to me, these look very urban. And I think the smoke having, yeah, looks a little aggressive, honestly. I worry about a culvert being in a trail on Tom Blake. Yeah, I cement. I do. I cement industrial thing on a beautiful outdoor trail that they're trying to get away from. I find it totally not relating to the environment. Sorry. Can I ask a question? I guess the cement. So I think more than yay or nay to these, I don't understand the format. I thought when we originally spoke, you were gonna present us several choices for each location, but I'm just trying to clarify. Is that going forward? Yeah, for sure. So we narrowed to two artists instead of more because of the timeline that we were hoping to install before the summer. So these artists, we do have the capacity to install by then. And we're close to them and they have the groups to the ranch. But if the timeline is not a concern, we do have all their options as well. Well, I think the appropriate, I mean not appropriate, but art that we're interested in would be more important, something that the town would really enjoy having, rather than whatever you have on hand right now. I just, in my opinion. Yeah. So this is Helen. The PDF that was attached to the agenda had totally different artists in the PDF. James Seryles and Nancy Lavendale and the Hans brothers. And there are six of them. Yeah so those artists were our first option but during the timeline they wouldn't be able to accommodate that fast so we change them but we're happy to go back to those four options if that's what we want. I think there were six right six artists. We narrowed it from yeah I don't remember the last version that was shared I'm sorry. Yeah there I mean, Debbie, if you want, we can open that one and we can see them. And just to clarify, we would be selecting one sculpture. And depending on what the sculpture is, we would be choosing which location is best fit for that sculpture. So we're just in the end. We won this year. Trying to choose one sculpture from this project. If I might, and again, I might be the only voice representing this view, but I don't have young children. I was on Tom Blake hiking this morning, but I am there quite often. I don't see a lot of children there. I don't know. Great. Do you take, is it a trail for kids? No. No. Just did it this weekend. How old is she? Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's a lot of families who use that trail. There are a lot of families. I don't know that that's necessarily. It's pretty abiking trail too. Yeah. Anyway, The bigger point that I wanted to make is, if I were to vote, I would love more people to see the art than less. And I think the snowmess roundabout would be such wonderful exposure for both locals and visitors. I mean, at this juncture, I personally would heavily prefer us thinking about the roundabout, because I think if it's the first thing you really see. Well, no, if it's our first initiative, wouldn't it be wonderful to have something that we love in a very visible place that people could say, wow, this, a collaboration between sob and Anderson Ranch and we love it and it enhances our town and I just think the Tumblake trail is just not used to be in pain. Yeah, I just not used, obviously, as much. Yeah, I agree. Well, I don't think we have to decide on location tonight. Um, it seems like the choice of artist or sculpture should kind of take the lead in dictating the location. But I think that those are all very valid points as far as exposure. But if we saw more options, we might, if we wanted to put something in the roundabout first, then if we had enough options we could find something suitable. That's my feeling. Yeah, so we can start, is this one the first artist of the slide? Thank you. So Jim Sirles, I'm sure you're familiarized with him. Currently we have a piece of him in the ranch, in the entrance. What we, I mean, he's located here. He's a local. We love the materials he uses, very organic, natural forms. These could be a really good representation of the town of Stomas and depending on the materials, right? So it could be wood or you know it really depends on what we want but probably he already has something we can ask him. We still have his piece in the ranch so we're close with him and his gallery so we're happy too. And there's a second piece by the entrance from Alcree Grove to the ranch. Yeah, exactly. So he's really very in contact with our community and a part of it. And the next one is Nancy. I mean, I'm sure, I don't know if you've met her. She's really dear friend of the ranch. We have a work of her now and she works with a lot of stone. So, again, it depends on where we're gonna have the sculpture, but she can make a proposal and she's close and again, local. We do have one Nancy Levin doll just up the road front. Yes, yes, yes, so that could be redundant. That would be a big redundant. Yeah, because that's a material she used. Yeah, so next artist, the has brothers, their friends of the ranch, they would be a little more hard to get if that is what we decide. But they'd work with different materials, they do more fun things with a lot of humor and very different. So a lot of forms, different colors. If we want more popping colors, if that's what we want, they could be a really good fit. Hank Willis-Thomas. Right now, currently, we have that piece underneath the red one in the wrench. It's used in front of the children's building. It's used as a bench as well, interactive piece as you could see in the first picture. This work would take, if we decide this, it would take a little more time but he's at at the forefront of the ranch and again we can make it happen as well. Yes, next I think we have to more. Trey Hill I'm sure you are familiar with him. We have one piece of him at the ranch right now. He's amazing and he works with a lot of trees. He's coming to give a workshop to the ranch this summer so we can move any connection we have with him if that's what we want as well. I'll see those clay or cement. Clay. Yes it's clay and he he paints over them. In the ranch we have right now, one. It's not that big. It's close to the cafe. But it's a connection to the trees, to nature. It's very organic. And wherever we put it, it's going to look amazing. And if he paints a piece, what's the, how long does it last in this type of weather? Well, it lasts, it lasts. I won't say forever, but we haven't had an issue, and it's been in the ranch for a while. And it goes cold, warm, you know, and it's outdoors. So it does, it's an outdoor sculpture for sure. Lita Wilson, I don't know if you know her. Currently we have a work of her in the ranch. These works are big. So I wanted to change one of these pictures, but these works are tall. She's close to us as well. So if this is what we decide we're happy to talk to her and we can get one of her sculptures probably with a small timeline. But she works again with a lot of organic and nature. She uses a lot of collage and she has them on the sculpture. Yeah, she's a great friend of the ranch. Right now, if you want to come see one of her pieces, we have one. Are they exterior or exterior? Yeah, all of these are exterior. I mean, this picture is in a gallery. Yes. But they are outdoor sculptures. And they work very well with snow surprisingly. They look amazing. And he becomes a very interesting contrast with the white. I have a question. Yes. Is there any way we could zoom in on those two pieces just so we can get a little better idea of what they look like because I'm half blind or something. They're photograph, and correct me if I'm wrong here. They're photographs that have been transferred onto metal plates that are then overlaid and forming these different structures and shapes. I mean, they're like marble almost. It's a unique look. And I think from far away, they kind of look like the photograph that they're of. For example, the one on the bottom looks sort of like this Moab, Sandstone kind of look and feel, and then you get close and you realize it's a photograph, and then it has this kind of incredible three-dimensional shape, and like Elsie mentioned, they're large, so these are probably eight to ten feet tall. So the scale is a big piece of the equation for these as well. Well, I would be interested in almost any of the pieces from these six verses, the other two. And I'd be willing to forego the timeline for the right piece of art. Okay. A couple of questions, sorry. So, for one thing I don't understand the timeline, we were trying to do it by this summer. Oh, okay. And now we may push it back. And then my second question is, if we have, is it just people that you have connections with or I know of this sculpture that I'd like you to consider would you consider? Yeah, I mean Yeah, the idea was for us to propose the ones we have connections So we can facilitate and be like the connection between the town of snowmass and This was the Anderson Ranch Snowmass Village project that we voted on Where there would would be one sculpture or no, there would be two. One in the lower. One in Snowmass and one on the ranch. Right. Yeah. Right. So, but if I had a suggestion for them, well, I think it really should come from you. I just, this question, I don't know. I think, no, I think we're trying to get the connection with them and their artists with us and the other. Okay, that makes sense. So if you come up with someone that's really a different thing. Okay, got it. So do you guys have different artists for who you're choosing for your artist and ranch? So what we would try would be the same artist or? Okay, so you're trying to pick an artist out of this same group. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it would be this same artist that has the piece at the ranch and in Snowmass. So we're defectively getting two from one artist. Yeah. It would make it easier, but if, yeah. Is there any favorites artists? I think this is kind of cool. Yeah. Lita Wilson. This is Helen. This is Helen. I had two favorites that, Trey Hill and Lita Wilson, those last two were my favorites if we were doing a vote. Same. Same. Shall we vote on it? Yeah. I think I can please hot. Now we could see them again. Let's vote on it. Helen had Trey and Lisa. And Lisa? Yeah. Debbie, can we go back to one and zip through them again? And Diane, which two would be your favorites? I would love to see the first one again. Yeah, the first one, can we see, can we keep going there? That's her own, sir. Oh no, that's not necessary. That's not necessary. What location were you thinking? I love James Earl's. I do too. I love that one on the bottom left. I mean, again, I don't know that art needs to have rational connection, but I just do feel like somehow there should be a snowmass. And so to me, this feels organic, natural. It could be flowers. It could be leaves. I don't know. So I love James Stirls, and then other one I love is Trey, whatever his last name, which also reminds me of Trees. But I would, if I'm not fond of the plain cement, if Trey... No, there's not a one, but just have a Stray. I mean, it would be nice to have some color. Yeah. Keep going. How about you, Linda? Well, I'm hoping she'll continue going through, because I can't remember who I am. One we're considering who we like doesn't the location come into play. Well, and we haven't decided on a location. Okay. I thought we decided on the round of though. Well, I don't know that we did decide on that. I was against it, but maybe everybody else decided on it. All right. Shall we decide on location? Shall we first decide on location? And I'm so sorry, Lewis. I thought that we all sort of agreed that the roundabout would be good, but let's vote. Because location will determine what we put there. Exactly. Yeah. So everybody. I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion. Yes. Yes, please. That we put something in the roundabout first. Second, Allenthaver. Well, how about Helen and Maya? Oh, Helen and Maya. Would you, which location would you prefer to do first? I prefer the roundabout as well. I kind of agree with Diane. I think it has more exposure and this makes more sense because public is kind of like a peaceful nature area. I think it makes more sense to have something at the roundabout. Great. And how about you Helen? I agree. So that's too roundabout. You need to call for a vote. Oh, can we... So if we vote on this, everybody who votes for the round about, please raise your hand. And everybody who votes for, well, Tom Blake. Tom Blake. Tom Blake. Sorry. All right. So Lindsay and Lois, I'm afraid you've been outvoted for first location. But to the roundabout, you know, there's lots of trees and bushes and everything else has to be something massive. It'll get lost. That's a very good point. And that's why I liked the other one better because it was just like really exposed. And it could be part of our art walk where as this you're just driving by it. That was my opinion I'm just sharing it. Oh thank you. Yeah I think that's very valid point. So Linda which sculpture would you sculpture? Well I do like the roundabout and I think you should take into consideration you know I would like to see a there. But remember, these are bushes and flowers and they can be minimized. We're not, I'm not talking about chopping down trees, but you know, the shrubs can be trimmed and the flowers, you know, can be, you know, changed if necessary. It will be in front of the truth. Exactly. So I like Surles, Trey and Lita. Those are my three. Okay. How big is the tray? How big is that? So Trey is not that big but we can ask him for a bigger one. a bigger one. Because all these artists have not, they don't have existing pieces. We will ask them to... big but we can ask him for a bigger one. Because all these artists have not, they don't have existing pieces. We will ask them to create some have, some have. Yeah. So maybe he does have, as you can see, the one with blue, that one's big. Can we make that blue one bigger so we can see that possibly a a little closer. Is that what he does is just that that's all he does. He does trees and he paints them. So it really depends on the color we want as well. But we can ask him what he has already. I like the blue one but I think that's interesting. But I wouldn't want to see one that didn't have color in there. Yeah, no. And Trey has some really interesting pieces on his website that aren't necessarily trees. They're just kind of earthy objects. Wonderful. How about you, Lois, which sculpture would you like to see at the roundabout? Thank you for asking. I don't have a strong opinion because I think these are all something. And it does depend on signs and everything. I just don't have a good perspective on like he's standing next to that. So it must be like six feet or something. No more might be eight feet that tall part. I don't know how tall he is so. What do we yeah? He's five nine. No, I'm just kidding. You know. I mean what we can do now that we have the location this is, because we can go to these three artists that we've narrowed and ask them. We have them around the vote for. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Melanie, who has your vote for me. Mrs. Traykel and second is James. Great, Tray and Sir. I'm totally with you for my choices. How about you? I like Surrell and the one with the guy laying in the circle. Hank Willis. Careful with Thomas. Great. And Lindsay. Oh, and Lindsay. You get a vote. We won't tell you what the rant will you chose. Well, for the roundabout, I think that I think one of Lita's pieces could be really incredible there. I also think one of Hank's pieces could have some great impact and he is an artist that has is pretty pretty big deal. Can we go scroll up to Hank? Yeah, can we look at Hank again? He's got a lot of acclaim, he's gotten a lot of public interest lately and so if we're considering something that would be potentially newsworthy, what do you think? Well, is that probably be the most? Is that one of our goals? Newsworthiness? I think that there's certainly an element to consider there as far as putting this project as far as outdoor art in snowmass on the map a little bit and making it, I don't think this is going to be a destination driver for anyone, but I think that if we start to build out this collection, if you will, with some higher level, more mainstream and kind of at the forefront artists, it's going to build the project in a way that could be positive for Snowmass. So something to consider. Yeah. And Maya, who would you pick for the roundabout? Who would be your top two picks? I'm a little torn. I like the idea of the carbon-dale based gentleman with the wood. What was his name again James I believe. And then I also like Trey Hill too. I think having some sort of trees sculpture like that would go well in that location as well. I'm kind of drawn to the more nature organic style artists than kind kind of the more urban so those we might to pick some of that location. Great, thank you very much. Okay, so oh. I have a question. Is Trey can hit, is his lit? Is he's lit? Are there lights on that? Oh, no. I think that we would have to talk to the parts department about that. I believe that the roundabout does have electrical access. Right. So for any of these sculptures, we would need to approach that and figure out whether or not we want them to be lit and what does that mean for the budget and logistics. But none of them have existing lighting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. So I think the artists were most interested in our Tray Sourol's, Lita and Hanks, Club S Third, I guess. OK. So thank you. Yeah, no, of course. It's amazing. So are we leaving an app? You're going to get more information on these three. So then we'll revisit it because I don't think we have to decide right now. Yeah, exactly. So what I'll do for next meeting, I'm going to talk to them in these time and know what they have already in their studios. If we can have something already built or available, I can show you that and propose. And price range as well, I mean, or they will. Well, I think we're leasing them. Yeah, we're leasing them. We're leasing it for you. We're leasing it for you, everybody. So what we do with the loan agreement is they give us a piece and we cover the shipping and the installation but we don't pay for the piece because it's not ours it's just long. So our price would be the same for each of these three. Yeah yeah because it's covering the shipping. It varies depending on the piece guys. Yeah yeah. Yeah. There's also an artist on a rare. And when you present next month, the update, can you give us the size of the piece, the dimensions as well? For sure. So I hope it's visualizes. Yeah. So I'll bring the works with sizes, pictures that are more reliable than the ones I have, and options for all of them. Great. Thank you. I also have a suggestion that since we know the location, perhaps you tell the artist the location so that they can decide on what they'd like to have there. Yes, they can make that represent it. I think that's what they're going to do now that we decided on one like option. Yeah, it's something that what they already have made. Yeah, and also they could give their input on the size and since it's going to be in that location, we want it bigger. So they can show us different options for the location. Yeah. Great. Thank you. and Alyssa, would you like to weigh in on this? I mean, are you loud too? I'm not going to give an opinion as the artist. But what I will say is, is that when we did the round about up here, as you know, the sculpture was donated. So we didn't really have choice in it. But there was a lot of community sentiment that it didn't feel like snowmass and people had very strong feelings about it. So I do think, you know, Diane, what you said and, you know, what some others brought up about it feeling sort of in the character of snowmass, I think is super important based on what we went through with that sculpture. But no, I think there are some really interesting options and it will be fun to see what you guys end up with. Is that location a possible place for one of these artists in the future as we move forward or is the squiggle going to be in Stomach forever or is there? So the agreement was, I can't remember what they said. It had to be there for a certain amount of years. And then after that, it can either go back to the artist or we can store it. So the answer is no, it does not have to stay forever. But I can't remember off the top of my head with the number of years where but there was a set was like six yeah it sounds familiar. Yes. I know someone asked me not to long ago. Oh no no the upper is that was ours but the agreement was that we had to keep it in the roundabout for a certain number of years and then after that we could move it to a different location, snowmass or storage or give it back. So yes and I don't I mean I mean, it's been a while. I mean, it's probably nearing the end. Probably worth checking. I do know. And someone asked me not that long ago. I just have to think about who asked me, and then I can find the email sometime. But let me see if I can find out. I should be able to tell you. Thank you. Yeah. So that was sort of one of the continuations that structured this project in kind of the way that it has been. And we've seen such great refresh with the ranch campus every summer having different sculptures. And kind of if you really hate one sculpture, you know that it's not gonna be there for 16 years or whatever. We're never gonna satisfy everyone. There's always gonna be. That's what it's about, right? But if we have criteria that we can all agree on, like it should feel like it's part of our community. Absolutely, and the fact that it's a revolving exhibition, I think, is only a strength. So it's good. Okay. So we have our new... That's wonderful. Well, thank you so much for coming with the presentingness to us. And then I think we'll probably... Hopefully see you back at the next meeting. For sure. Yeah. Let me know. 20th. Perfect. Of course, no, of course, my pleasure. You could distribute information over email through us. Yeah. Yeah. You know that's actually a great idea. Yeah. Is it possible for us to do a vote remotely or? I think so, right? I don't know what the rules are surrounding that. I don't know. Would you mind looking into that then? We can find out. We can find out the rules of the solosinoes decide with waiting for two more months. Right. I'll find out what you have in the room. Thank you very much. Yes. Yes. Um, Alissa, I saw an article here in the fall of 2016. He approached the town about this sculpture up there. Yeah, I mean, it's been up. I mean, it's probably closed to ten years. So it's probably closed to ten years. So I mean, it should be ten years. Yeah, because Markey was still mayor when we did that. Yeah. But it definitely can be moved. And we're probably right at that time frame where it can. That's great. Now I was going to Australia and if you still have time to present or just to tell us briefly what's going on. Helen is going to do that. Helen is totally up to snuff. Thank you so much. We're very excited about this project and we'll send you the proposals on time Before Wayne advanced by meeting and if something moves, moves faster. I'll let you guys know great Thank you so much. Great to meet you. Of course my pleasure. Thank you for having me. Thank you Great Helen would you mind bring us up to date on the plan error? I'd be happy to. Thank you. So we have all of our artists confirmed and they all are so excited about it. We've got about 13 that are going to need places to stay. And so that's our next project to work on that. Snowmass tourism, they have budget to cover most of the costs and we've got some residual budget from last year left over that will use to cover some additional costs. Great. We've reached out to the chapel. I just did that today and I haven't heard back from them to see if we can do the welcoming event there. And we've reached out to Rock Bottom Ranch, hoping that we can do an artist evening there. I guess it went really well last year and they wanted to go back. Jane Hill, a George Jane Hunt, who is a very well-known artist, is gonna be our judge this year. So we're excited about that as well. And roaring for conservancy and Aspen public radio are going to be our sponsors, so are our partners. So that's good. And roaring for is so good. The weekend of taking care of all the administrative stuff. So we're happy about that. Fantastic. Well, thank you. Any questions? Would it, does anybody have any questions? I was just going to say another location. I know that Toklot is now up and running and that could be another really gorgeous destination. That would be, that's a great idea. Yeah really. We'll look at that as well because it is so beautiful out there. It's great. Thank you Great. Well, thank you very much Helen. Sure Great. So Melanie, would you like to Talk about the Tamil Mule and just give us an update? Sure. I'm Lois and I are gonna be sharing that We posted in the Carbondale Creative Newsletter an ad looking for artists and I think I send it to all members. I think everybody got it so they had a chance to look at it. We since that posting, we've had four artists apply. We have until April 18th until the deadline the cutoff is so we still have a little bit more time. The four artists David Schwartz, Nick Ward, Chris Erickson and its Ibrian Barrett don't know if I'm saying that correctly. And we've had one artist that somebody has contacted, but they have not applied as of yet. We really would like to encourage all board members, if you know of a mural artist, to please reach out, if you think they would do a good job. And the main thing with this mural is a collaboration with the community to make sure that the artist needs to work with the community to get this done community participation. And then we may, we're not really sure, but the neural team may reach out to further artists before the end of the 18th of April. So that's an update on where we're at with the neural project. Great. Well, thank you very much. And then, Lois. Okay. I'm going to cover two quick things. Our artist deadline is April 18th, and our committee will get together and make our choices to present to this board. This board then gets to vote on their choices, either remotely, because we don't meet in April or we wait till April and then don't get on the agenda of town council. I mean, we wait till May then we don't get on town council agenda till late May or early June. So we have to decide that. We'd like direction how you think we should go with that. And the second thing we'd like some direction with is when we go to town council, as we did with the bear sculpture, we presented one thing that we all agreed on and they either approved or disapproved. But another approach is to ask town council to approve, to look at three scenarios and choose one. So I don't know what direction you wanna go there. We're leaning towards just presenting one with a second backup, but so we need decisions on those two things. So we know where to go. I have an opinion on that. I was gonna ask to see. I mean if there's two or three that we like then you know and we can't come to any final conclusion then we can present three if we have two to present because we only like two then we'll present two. But if we only like one why would we present more than that one? That's kind of, I think we need to see the art first, don't we? That's a good approach. I mean, I think that, you know, if you, like, with the bears, when you brought us the bears, like, you know, was, you guys all liked it, we liked it. You know, we'd been through the whole thing with the ice cubes. So I think that that's a good way to do it. I mean, I think if there's two that you guys really feel could you could go either way, then bring two. You know, and if we don't like it or don't feel like it sort of meshes with the community similar to how we followed about some of the other ones, then you'll hear that for sure. Great. Yeah. Well, thank you. Yeah, whatever you guys want to do, I think it's great. I'm, I'm worried about the voting. Do you want to do it remotely so we can move along? I would love that, but only, uh, Julia was going to find out if we could vote on the Anderson Ranch thing. This would be sort of the same thing, right? Yeah, if we can do that that remotely I think that I'm not sure if we're allowed to do that I mean I don't think we've ever had to do that before because we've always met every month exactly so and there's never been talked about I mean if we want to do we could add we could add a new codisol or whatever you want to call it, to, you know, we could make an amendment to our... Oh, okay. Can we do that? Make an amendment? I don't know why not. Okay. We just consider having a meeting in April if we have all of the things that you say. You know, it would be really handy, but I think it's, the Julia and Debbie have time for us to meet in April. Yeah, we can do an April meeting. Oh, okay. I think that would be a great idea. Because the scholarship fund as well and then the tunnel, it sounds like there's quite a bit of things. There's a lot going on right now. Oh, I know. I think that would be great. I'm on a wait until I'm sure. It's too late. That's one of the pros we meet in April. Okay. All right. We're all meeting in April. We're all proposing. Would you want to come up with the date? Is it like the third again? The third Thursday night? Whatever we do. The same Thursday. Everybody got a three-second round of Thursday. Yeah. I always have my count. Well, I can't keep anything straight anymore. I just thought somebody would be faster. So that's the 17th. The 17th? Would everybody, would that work for everybody? Okay, perfect. 17th of April next meeting. And it's a little clock? I think it's advantageous to have some have some interaction like and so I'm just looking at something. I don't agree. So a four o'clock on April, Thursday, April, the 17th. Yep. Great. Great. Okay. Super. All right. So the scholarship fund. Okay, scholarship is me again. I don't think anybody is new here at this meeting because we do have new members. I was going to quickly just quickly go over the fact that the scholarship is set up to create, was created to strengthen an encourage for future in the visual arts. And we want to support a student pursuing a visual arts career and going to school of visual arts. Just wanted to run that by, okay, somebody didn't remember or somebody wasn't here last year. As far as this year's progress, the students hit their deadline and we have eight applicants. And so the committee, our committee, was able to go on to the Aspern High School site called Smarter Select. And then you could look at the students' profiles, their goals, their ambitions, their grades, their financial situation, their home situation. So we did that but we also spoke to the art department or I didn't pass it on because we feel like you're again just reading a piece of paper or looking at something You don't get a sense of who that person is as a person So we came with that all in mind we came down to four front runners and We asked the high school to make appointments for our committee members to interview these four students and And so we're going to do that to beginning of April. And then they would like a decision by April 24th. So we will meet and then between those four we'll decide on our finalist. That's great. It sounds really organized. How exciting. To have eight applicants and then four finalists's great. And then we're gonna tap here again. No, I'm ready. I'll go I mean these kids are all great and it's so fun to meet them. That's why we're really doing interviews. We love meeting them But all four of these are our great choices. Are any of them from snowmass? Just out of curiosity. The one person from Snowmass was considering minoring and pottery. But when I spoke to the art teachers, they said, I don't think she has any intention to do any of that. She wanted to go to law school. Oh. More. I mean, that's what her intent with maybe a minor and we're not looking for that. No, yeah. Last year the kid that got her, he was great. Yeah, right. We really wanted to focus on Stomach and we pushed for her. But looking into it further, we really want an art student, not just someone who enjoys art. I think it's great. That's great. That's wonderful. Yeah. So while we'll let you know by then, we'll be April 17th. Well, we may know by then. Yeah. Great. How about photographs? Thank you, Debbie. The photographs are amazing. They are all up now. So they're in the locations. If you don't know, they are at the mall bus depot. There's two photographs there. They're at the parking garage outside and inside. Linda, have you seen yours? Yes, I finally saw it. And I do have to say that I got a good chuckle because it's in the hallway across from the bathrooms. Really? Okay, in the bathroom? Yeah, all right. But anyways, it's up. And then there are four inside the town center. They are beautiful. They are large. And they are high definition. So I thought we were going to take photos and then share all that with us. Can you still do that? Take photos and share them. I think there is a link that you on the, oh there is. Yeah, so if you go online to the, do you want to see the photos or you want to see them hanging? I want to see them hanging in where they are. I think these, showed them hanging, right? I remember seeing like a little sign on there. So with the artist name. Can we pull it up? Can we click on it? OK. So they look really great. They're there for three years. And then the artist gets to decide whether they want to keep it, whether they want to sell it, or they want to donate it. Great. Did you pitch that story to the paper? No, I think it was going to It would just be good. I think it's I think it's great when they can I mean yeah, no, I know my son isn't very hefty anymore, but it I think it's nice and we can highlight those things. That would be wonderful if we could do that. So that one was in the town center. Wait. We're back to Anderson Ranch. So that was next to the grocery store. That one is in the parking garage outside. These are all part of the artwork as well, aren't they? Great. What? I'm not sure. I don't know. Are these part of our artwork? Parking garage. There should be. Yeah. So that one there is a light bulb that is out in the parking garage. So it looks a little bit darker than it usually would. And they are currently not on the artwork maps that were published last fall because they weren't up then. And that one's the bus deeper. So I believe there's 13 and total. Yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. Well, great. Could you talk or who could talk to the snowman son to get it in? So I did actually have a conversation with Sarah Struke, Sanchez, who's our PR manager. And we talked about how we want to handle the release of this. And she thought that it would work best kind of at the end of the season. And she had a plan for how she wanted to approach media. That was a great project. Thank you, Debbie, for talking to her. And I hope that works. All right, Helen, how about would you tell us about this signage project? Please. Yeah, so our call is to have the signs installed by June the season and we're still working with the signage company to to get that rolling again. We've got a proposal from them from back in November and we're revisiting that and trying to get some some traction on that. But I guess I just did have one question. You know, if we accept the proposal and go forward with this, you know, do we have to, do we just take it out of our budget? Does it have to go to town council to be approved? I don't really know, what you started last year, right? What's was there an agreement then? or I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was there an agreement then or? I, I sorry, I didn't understand the question. What budget? She, Helen was asking if we have to bring this to town council. It would, it would come out of our budget, right? I think the budgets are ready been approved, right, right? So we're just working against the budget that was approved by council last year. Right, right. OK, yeah. We just have to go back to council for the artists, selections, new projects that haven't been approved. OK, put that for for for for for to signage. OK, great. OK, that's good. We should be able to move quickly on it. So I know Debbie's been working with Julie Kohler and make some progress and hopefully have signs by June. Great. Great. And yeah. And then do we vote on, did we vote on this? Sorry, is that not some,? I'm just because. On the signage? Yeah. I don't think there was a vote, but there was just discussion, I think, around the style and the plan. Right. They're implementing it, and I believe it already went to council for discussions. I don't think there's any action required on it. Are you Zadson Wright-Dubby? No. Yeah, I don't think there's any action required. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. Well then, oh yes, the winter windows, you talked about sub doing something of that or? Yeah, when you do something of that or something that maybe, I don't know that there's any update at this point. I mean, it could be something that we asked Tim Sack to come to maybe a meeting as we get through the summer and planar and some of the other things and just kind of talk about how we could maybe enhance it for next year and maybe some could give him some ideas. I think it makes sense to continue to use him because he did a great job in year one and I think it was a great pilot program but maybe just having a discussion on one of the agendas coming up maybe and you know towards of summer so that you have time to you know do the outreach for for winter Okay, I don't think there's any big update at this point. I think that would just be for a future agenda Super and then was there anything else that we should bleach your project That's what I was going to ask the Bleacher. The what? Bleachers. Oh, the Bleachers. Yeah. You said that with disdain. The pain of my existence. Yeah. The Bleachers. Painful. I'm just getting. I think the last I heard was poster was going to come back with some other ideas as well. and we were going to collate the ideas to go back to council. Is that sound right? Yeah, I don't know if poster has other ideas. Okay. I mean, I think they were kind of bouncing it to you. I don't know if poster has other ideas. Okay. I mean, I think they were kind of bouncing it to you. I don't know what else they've thought about. Okay. I don't know if it's a plan. So we presented to poster the, the, the, the, the, the, the Mesh Finals. Yeah. Right. And they said they were going to take it from there. Let me, um, we haven't heard back from them yet. Yeah, I'll do back to Andy on that and see where we are for the next meeting. Okay. they were going to take it from there. Let me, we haven't heard back from them yet. Yeah, I'll look back to Andy on that and see where we are for the next meeting. OK. Whatever happened, sorry, I just blurted. Whatever happened with the brochure that was to go along, the art hike, I mean, you know. Oh, the map. The map. Yeah. I think a map was created last summer and it went out. Yes. To the welcome center and see where are they or where would you pick one up or are they done? I mean, so they are all done. I think we've printed, I don't know, a thousand or five thousand. I can't remember how many were printed. I don't know, Debbie, do you have those? Or we were working with, I think Rachel. Yeah, there's some upstairs after this meeting. I'd be happy to run up there and grab a handful. Yeah, I'd like to see you. And I thought they were distributed at one of the sub meetings previously, but maybe, maybe not. And I guess the question I have is, yeah, they're ready. And they've been published, but they're already outdated. How often do we want to update them? Well, I think they probably should be updated annually, right? I mean, the existing art is there, but I like this year there are orders, photographs. I know if you want to add those, if there's going to be a sculpture. It seems like an expense to print these every year. I agree. I'm thinking more like make a free QR code. Two or three years. I think QR code would be the best way to do it instead of. Well, and there is there is a QR code. So we just I think on it really on a continual basis. we should be updating the website with the new things. So, um, great. If you can send me the locations of all of the photos, we, I can get those looped into the, because what we have is four different loops on the map. And we could add those those photos to each loop where appropriate. Great, and this star, I need. So will you need me to go take photos of them? Or can we just use what we have? We should just give it a few more. Yeah, just because we have. Yeah, because in past emails, there's the images in a word document with all the photographs. Yeah, yeah. And their locations. Okay, okay. And I'll just pull that up because I know I can save that off. Yeah, I had one thought about the art map. I thought maybe it would be good to have sort of a map because I know there are four loops, But it's little, if you don't really know snowmasses, maybe a little turkey to know where each loop is. So maybe it'd be good to have a map showing where each loop is. I don't know. Well, on the website maybe, or because I know, showed it to somebody to map and they were like, wait, where is this? Okay, that's just in the stand where the loops were. So I'd like to see the map if we could. Can we get a couple? I would really appreciate that because I think well, yeah, you also to not feel. If it's not real clear then and if we are gonna do one a new one for next year then maybe we need to alter it a little bit right yeah we're just altering maybe we could just do that online and do and do and do and do like a town map and this is the red loop and this is the green loop and this is the blue you know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah no that makes a lot of sense yeah okay is there any other business great well then would somebody like I will make a motion that we adjourn and there's a second. All right. All right. Thank you all very much. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Bye. Thank you. I have to find out what's next. There's just a hint that this should be finding pressure around. There's a hint that this should be finding pressure around. There's a hint.