Thank you. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. I'm going to ask you to come to the front. and to your public for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice as well. Rule call please. Chair Limets. Chair, Pro Tem Bruner. Commissioner Gollow. Present. Commissioner McMillan. Present. Commissioner Pollywall. Present. Thank you. All right, our first agenda item today is public input. So if there's any members of the public that would like to address the commission and anyone online today. Anyone online? No, sir. OK, terrific. Okay. Terrific. Our consent calendar consists of our regular meeting minutes, gives the public art and communication and correspondence. The recommended motion is receive and file. Do we have a motion? I make a motion to receive and file. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. All right. We are here today to select artwork for Centennial Park. We're going to be doing the handball wall there. Let's talk about that. Do you want to get us started? Yes, thank you chair person. So for this item we this is for the Public Archimitions Next project as you've identified. This is an artist selection of what we're doing tonight because the remember this is the project where we would bring in an artist to work with the Tested Meadows neighborhood and to design the mural for with themes and images. And we did send out a call for artists amongst our database to see who'd be interested based on the parameters of the project, timing or general idea on estimates on timing as well as a scope and I'm actually going to have Alyssa Rojas give the rundown the artists and I will give you the four morning tonight is the Alyssa Rojas show because both the next two items is Alyssa's presentations that she has worked hard at. And so I'm gonna turn it over to her to run through the artists and explain what we have before us. Listen, please take it away. Thank you. So we reached out to our public art database giving them the timeline that we would like to have three public input sessions. Sorry, I apologize. three public input sessions. Sorry, I apologize. Three public input sessions and we would like to have, it mainly be led by them, the artists, and we'd be reaching out to the Testimede community for a couple of days. I think I might like to have the table so I'm going to call out the Testimede community. And the first public input session would be October 12th. We'd have one on October 22nd and one on November 7th. I'm sorry. Yeah November 7th we would show the design to you all that they came up with on November 20th. It would go to council the third and they would begin the project in January. So that everything would be completed in time to then have a potential bench project, your functional art piece that you would like to have based on the design that they choose for the mural. So that's the timeline that we chose for the handball wall. Now we can go through the artist that's submitted with public input experience for the mural. And now you guys all received the artist's information ahead of time in your packet. So there was a star system that we chose to use for grading sounds harsh. So we won't say that for scoring, you know, another lovely way to say it. We chose one star for an example would be they led a group in installing tiles on a mural. And three stars would be somebody who, like a Mike Talber, they led the group from start to finish, from the design, the implementation, the installation of a public art mural through community engagement. So as we can go through all of the artists, if you'd like, or we can go through certain artists, if you'd like to see ones that you guys selected based on your preferences, I'm not sure how you would like to go through the artist. It always helps us. So you could start to finish. Start to finish? All right. Scroll through and see him on the screen. OK. Thank you. Who's Wes Abarca? He has, we gave him three stars. He was a program director at Rim Parks and Recreation District and he's led some boys and girls club murals and some other large scale mural projects. Next we have Laura Burris. We work with her on the Pine Tree mural project. She has helped paint murals with public input and community input. And she has helped lead residents through voting processes. Colourstree has led local schools and other shelters and spearheaded designs and implementation processes through multiple murals. Michelle Dinn has worked with the City of Long Beach and she has actually won awards for her community engagement murals. And Sophia, oh gosh, I'm probably going to put her last name, Goode. Has led mural clubs at middle schools and has helped in mural creation and she's led mural projects for universities. And Drew Him has led community engagement projects through the installation process. He had people help him install the tiles on murals. Annie Hong, we've worked with her on some of our other projects here in the city. And she's led classes of students to see what they wanted to see in a mural. And she's helped the community paint part of the mural. And she's worked with different city councils to encourage participation in mural projects. Dave Kinsey has interpreted the input of residents to visually represent the voice of the people. I see you put it. Oh, sorry. Damon, again, probably a name I'm going to butcher. Lou John has worked for the city of Anaheim extensively and he's involved city officials and community members in designing and installing multiple murals. And he has worked with school districts. These are two of his handball walls that he's installed at different schools. Katie McGuire, we have worked with her on our planter boxes in Old Town. She's taken students on field trips to paint street art and she's helped them plan ahead on what kind of murals they would like to paint for their street art. Many but mighty art team, they would work together as an art team and they've engaged as a team in multiple settings and they've planned interactive workshops and live paintings. Tracy Maloney has experienced working with the city of Placensia to help in the revitalization of their old town area. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh. New Brucey Akoie. Thank you to both Maryland and Chad for that. Has led the community in painting murals and has experience leading and gathering ideas from start to the final implementation of multiple mural projects. And you can see he submitted photos where he's leading the community and helping paint the project as well. Anthony Ortiz has worked with community survey projects and they paid participants for their participation in the surveys. RFX-1 has experienced leading students in depicting messages that matter to them. Carla Roke has community engagement experience with Anaheim Elementary School sites and she's done 46 bureaus for Anaheim Elementary School sites. She's worked with school administrations. She's worked with student input and she's helped helping students paint the murals and she's worked with the city of La Habra, parks and facilities. Did you wanna? And I know, oh, okay. I know she has extensive experience working through cities and through school districts and gathering input. She has 46 murals under her belt gathering community input. The heavy collective has 15 years of experience. One of their murals that they submitted here you can see on the left. They worked with Santa Anna PD, Santa Anna Unified School District, Teachers, Students, and they helped design and paint a mural through community input. They also led a grassroots project with neighbors to create a sense of safety and pride with the residents in their own neighborhood. And that's the mural that you see there on the right. And Pete Theron, He engaged with various stakeholders to come up with these designs. The last one? And then one more. Marshall Yafo. He is collaborated with multiple cities and with different scales of community input. And that concludes all the artists who submitted and had any type of community input experience or community engagement experience. Thank you very much, Alyssa. Well done on that, got me that information and synthesizing it, especially the rating. The very complicated three-star rating system for their public input experience. So appreciate you doing that. And so for the commission, the chair, we would just really want to be able to come out of here with an artist, the preferred artist, to work with. Because if you recall, we just asked the artists for examples of their previous experience, too, specifically, and as well as their experience with public involvement projects. And so we don't have a concept that would be obviously produced in collaboration with the community. So it's really one of the come out of here with an artist so that we can coordinate and then schedule. Elis has already scheduled a reserved time at the, is it one of the club houses, and on which one? Yeah, it's very. Oh, it varies. Okay, but one of the two club houses, so we have the dates reserved, and we wanna, you know, people start getting promotional information out, and we want to, you know, people start getting promotional information out, and getting people there. So, yeah, really just the artist, right? And if you have questions on any of the specific artists, more information, you want to narrow it down, Alyssa has all that information. I will, one piece I'll add is that Carla Roke, I did get a late recommendation from former public art committee member, Kim Albarian, who works with the City of Lahabra. And so she gave her recommendation for Carla as having done several projects and being very happy with the efforts of Carla and her murals and her art. So that's the extent of it, Chairperson. Thank you. That was a great presentation and thank you, Alyssa, for all of the background information. It will help us a lot as we work on a community engagement project to know who has experienced doing that and has been successful. So, through the chair, I give Alyssa three stars. Yes, at least, maybe four. All right, so shall we go through our kind of usual process? Let's talk about the artists that we like the most, things that stood out to us and I thought maybe we'd start with those who live in the neighborhood. Well, through the Chair of Guy, ask us something first. Is this, were these all the submissions or were there, were there artists that submitted that didn't have, that didn't meet any of the three stars, and so they weren't included? There were other artists that submitted. Some that were not available on the page that we have reserved the club houses. Some that submitted that might not have understood the assignment, and then, yeah, some that had no community engagement and yeah some that had no community engagement experience. Okay I'm just wondering because I think for this kind of project this is a fairly small public art project it would be an opportunity for artists who is willing to try to put their hand into public engagement it might be a good one for that. Not if they didn't understand assignment, but if they were gung-ho to try it, that would have been nice to see, I think. And then the other thing, throw this out just before we start, before I forget. A lot of surrounding communities use that park, not just test and meadows. So we might want to consider reaching out to them as well. We will do that. OK. Obviously we'll be doing so. Media, my plan is that's kind of why the date for selected. Yes, we'll have our first public meeting at the on October 12th, but that date was selected so that way we could start marketing it also at Art Walk and encourage people to attend that second public input meeting. So that's kind of why we have a relatively tight timeline, but I would like to market it at the Art Walk. Okay. That's it. Sorry for the interjection. No, it's a very good point that this is a really accessible project, maybe for a younger artist who doesn't have as much experience. Right. Through the chair, I think those people- Did you have a good set here? I think they were included. The people we did not include, it was clear to us, I guess, from our professional standpoint, that it wasn't the project for them. Right. So the ones that you see with one star, I think the people who are going home for it want to do it, but don't have a whole lot of experience in it. So I think they're in here. Okay. It's a good clarification. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Having said that, do you any any favorites in the in the pack I Had four that kind of stood out to me although as we're going through it again. You know, there's always things that Especially as Alyssa was going through and explaining the the star system and what the what their background was that Consume my decision, but through and explaining the star system and what the background was that can sway my decision. But I have four that I liked that I think would be good for this. Abarca. West Abarca. Could you repeat them please? Yep, repeat. West Abarca. A coye. I'm not going to try the first name. Anthony Ortiz and Carla Rook. Would you like us to put those up as we go through us? And I'd like to give some justification, I guess. I think Wes, Abarca, I think the two images we have would potentially fit well in that park, especially, well, both of them, maybe not the lake, but the idea that he's taking the environment, like the lake Gregory village, obviously, the lake scene on it. I'm not sure where one of the left is from, but that could definitely be something that we've seen a park. And then, I like to co-yease. Where is it? I like that I'm thinking a co-ay is a guy. Yeah, but I like to see there's a community involvement in this piece and there's a lot of detail. I don't know, it just looked like an interesting, interesting visually to me. So I like that and I like the fact that he's got, they have community involvement in their proposal here. You can see that they're using the community members or teas. Just I just visually I like the realistic nature of his work and the use of graphics. And then Carla Roke also looked like that would be a fun. If we're going to go more for a playful look because a lot of kids use the park, I like her work for that. It's kind of fun. And bright and colorful. I like that too. I'm kind of work for that. It's kind of fun. And bright color for me, I like that too. I'm kind of drawn to that. So that's my reasoning for my four. Great. Thank you. I can try to do it. Yeah, go ahead, please. Interestingly enough, I sort of dotted down four as well, and there will be some crossover to what Scott just mentioned. But I wanted to kind of preface my points. And I know I missed some. So I want to kind of start with this. A couple of things I was kind of taking into consideration. Initially, when looking at the list of artists, I was looking for a newer artist, someone new to work with, project on. And then as Alyssa, thank you for your comments someone, someone new to work with, project on. And then as Alyssa, thank you for your comments on each of them as you walked us through that. What caught my attention too was not just the years of experience. There were some that certainly had two decades and lots of it and I think they'd be a natural fit. But also those that work with students and youth, it's a very family friendly community for those that live there and visit that park and that community. So I think we could get a lot of kids out there to help out. So I'm excited about that. So I'm I'll just kind of list to my four with those in mind, but I'm some. I wasn't properly tracking Melissa when you when you specifically called out some some good ones that have that youth student experience, but Wesabarca stood out also a Koyay Carla Roke and heavy collective for me. We already have some consensus. Commissioner Bruner asked me to share her preferences in her absence today and she also chose three of those same names. Wes, Abarca, Acoye and Carla Roke on those as well. So I think we're narrowing. We're narrowing. Yes. Well, when I look through these, given the space, it's a community that's being completely, the park being completely redone, and it's a relatively small space, I want to go with someone we haven't done work with, I think, a similar theme. And I chose three of the ones that we have already year marked. The same three that we're seeing. Wes Abarca, McCoye, and Carla Rogue. So I think we're in some consensus there. I will say those, we flip through them again as long as everybody's giving four. My personal favorite that stood out but doesn't fit my criteria of a new artist or meet the three star rating. I did love the work there by Laura Burst. We've done it just the most playful, it's kind of iconic. But I think for this space to have something new, to have something, we have some options among these artists, we discuss them, we're both the community participates and the community ideates. I think we're gonna get some great work. This one stood out to me, but we've enjoyed working with her. We'll find other places where this can be relevant. Now, that one caught my eye as well. So fun. In Scoutsward playful. Yes, yes, yes. All right. So how should we narrow down, Mary? What are your preference? Well, I also liked Wes and Carla. The other one I like is the color-street folks. Color-street, I really just... Which one are both? The one on the right, I felt like, again, was it's... It looks like a children's storybook page or something like that. It's very imaginative and I like that they've worked with schools as well. I mean, I think my personal favorite is Carla Roak's piece. I felt like I liked both of these images, very colorful, very animated, and I think would translate to that small wall. I think some of these artists have really large scenes and we could use them on larger projects. This wall is not very large, so something that could work on that smaller space. The chair, I could see either one of these on that small wall, not that would pick in these two, but the style definitely looks like it would translate. Right there. She does come with the recommendations of our former commissioner and she's the one who has 45 murals right. Oh 46 okay well we could be 47. Great. Can we go back and look again? Can we flash Wes A, I think he was the first slide. Yeah. Yeah. And are these both painted? They're not other materials, right? So we're looking at paint. Yeah, they look painted. If the one on the right is a mosaic, it's incredible. We're not sure if the one on the left definitely looks that way. The other things you're working on, remember too, is we're just asking the community for input on the concept. Correct? The artist will be the one who does the work. It could be. Yeah. It could be something that the community can help paint. Similar to one of the accolier. We could take that route with it. One that you post closed. All of the parks closed, never mind. You're right. No, we wouldn't. Yep, the park is closed. So we would probably have the artist implemented. For input on what the concept is. Input and then feedback on, just like Mike Talbert did, feedback on the first, you know, go around. And then, because I'll be three meetings. So the initial discussion of concepts, images, themes coming back with probably a couple different Ideas and then fine tuning that for the final Is a very vocal and impeninated community That's a great point to be made about If anyone from that community is watching, we love you. Yes, they are. They're impassioned about their community. Saying they because you live there, right? I've just been to some meetings. Okay. I think we're going to move on. So if you had to choose your top person, who would it be? Be true. So. Be true to the chair, comment. I think we have kind of three that stood out. I think a Koye didn't have universal consensus. What I really liked about theirs was the community painting aspect. Given that's off the table, I might say that that's a really great artisan concept that we could reserve for maybe a larger scale project. Yeah. And that maybe I think we're deciding between Carla Rogue and Wes Abarca. Correct. OK. Those we have kind of narrowed it down to those two. Yeah. Yep. Oh, that's the vote. Thank you for the reality check on the visibility of the fact that we wouldn't necessarily be able to be in the park. Yeah. That is a factor. A big point I missed. Okay we're gonna should we want to vote I'll go with I would say of those two I think Carla broke edges out for me because of the brightness and again the kind of the playful nature of her style. I mean through the chair I know this is a very small sample set of their portfolio and obviously each artist would pivot to the community with the feedback. But, you know, the two submitted by West, they were a little darker and color tone, which are beautiful, and I imagine you could do something vibrant. But it's also very detailed. This seems just in Scott's words a little more playful. I think I would also choose Carla. Yeah, Carla, I will say that someone heavily waited by the recommendation from former chair Kim. Great. I'm okay with that. What do you think? Yeah, I think that's a great choice. Hey, before you take a final log, just as a reminder, I don't this, I'll have any bearing or not, but as a list of point at the beginning, just as of the big picture, whatever we do at the, yes, whatever we do at the handball wall, that will not necessarily determine what we do with a functional art, but the commission's hope is it will have a bearing on it. It will, in the words of today, it will vibe with the benches, right? So, again, I don't know that has any bearing on your choice of artists, but I just, I want wanted to just as a way of reminder. Another good reminder. Good Chair thank you for using your son's words. Vibe. Okay what do we do? Okay well I think we need we need someone to make a motion correct. Okay I'll make a someone to make a motion correct Okay, I'll make a motion I make a motion that we over the artist go that we um Ask Carla Roke to If she's still interested in doing the mural for Centennial Park Do we need an alternate if she's not able to do that or because she already expressed? She's okay. All right. Okay. Yes. I mean, we've got the received a date. Okay. Great. Okay. So the alternate would be? I guess, West, right? And then additionally, hold West, right? And then additionally hold West Abarca as an alternate if Carla Rope cannot. Cannot do it. Second. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Thank you very much. So it sounds like the first public input is before our next meeting, correct? So you get back to us with what happens next. Yes. So tomorrow I will reach out to Arla. And let her know that we would love to work with her and confirm that the dates work with her and that we're going to proceed. And then after that, we will start hard marketing and get the information out to the community nearby surrounding communities, social media. And we'll go from there. And then also start our marketing pieces for ArtWalk, so that way we can market that second workshop at ArtWalk as well. And hopefully something will come out of that first meeting that we can also publicize at the ArtWalk. And we'll bring food. Thank you very much. I'm not going to eat it all. Well, thank you for all of your thought and planning on this. It's going to run very smoothly because of your effort. Thank you very much. Save the dates. Save the dates. All right, let's talk about CalTrans transportation art. I'm really excited about this topic. We've been, it's been on our big ideas list for a little while. So if Director Clinton, if you would get us started, please. Yes, I do add to. So again, this is going to give a report on this. She did a deep dive into the CalTrans Transportation Art Program. And I say deep dive because there's some depth to it. There's some bureaucracy to it. So hoops to jump through, if you will. And so really, what will, so she'll go through those to provide the scope and really what we wanna, as it states in the recommendation, what we wanna be able to come out of this presentation with is the commission's direction to either pursue this or not, as it relates to maybe not the next project is going to take a while, but a project down the road. But it's going to, she'll explain it all. And it's going to take a while to get to the point that we are ready for this, both from a standpoint of approvals from CalTrans, but also the design, location, an artist, and funding. So with that, Alyssa, you want to drink water first? No, I'm OK. Can I promise I wanted to stop. I was trying to lay a little bit, but you get you to drink water. I appreciate you, thank you. Thank you. So transportation art you may or may not be familiar but it is it can be either a graphic or sculptural piece and it can be freestanding or placed on an existing feature so it can be on offense or a barrier and it typically expresses a unique attribute of the city. So for us, it could be something that expresses our military history or our favorite citrus. And it's maintained and installed by us as the city. This is the very, very easy timeline that just expresses how easy it is to work with CalTrans through this process. Don't laugh Chad, they haven't seen the rest of the presentation. So the project is initiated by the city and we would contact our district transportation art coordinator and then the location is chosen by us and We would have to review and select an appropriate location We would select an artist and a design that would then be reviewed by CalTrans We would also have to secure the funding so that could be dependent upon a lot of different things. Sometimes they have grant opportunities so we would have to look into that depending on when we would choose to pursue this project. The next step would be the concept proposal and then that's when we would submit that to our district transportation art coordinator and then that would be the concept proposal, and then that's when we would submit that to our district transportation art coordinator, and then that would be reviewed, and our application is either accepted or denied with comments, and that's in accordance with their project development procedures manual requirements. And once the concept is approved, then we are given a packet of information to review and fill out, then the application, or I'm sorry, then we would have to schedule a public review process, and that would show that the public is in favor of the art and the art piece, and then we could potentially hold that at a public art meeting. If there's a lot of different steps to it, but we could potentially hold it at a public art meeting to show support for the project. Next step would be submitting our preliminary proposal. And that's where we would submit all of the artists information background for the artist, resume for the artist, all of a description of the project, the elevations views from all the different sides, 3D views, location, you can see a proposed lighting, cost estimate, construction schedule, lifespan, maintenance details, things like that. Every single tiny detail you could possibly think of about the project would have to be submitted in the preliminary proposal. And then that would be reviewed. Through the Chair, do they give you a list to make sure we check those first? Oh yes, there's a list for every single thing. Oh yes, many, many a checklist through CalTrans, many, many a checklist. And then the qualified proposal is where you would get back your edits from your preliminary proposal. So if there's any comments that were given back from the preliminary proposal, you would go through those and fix those through your qualified proposal. And then you would submit your qualified proposal. And then that's where you would show your proof of public support. So all your comments that were submitted during your public input meeting. And you would submit those. And as with your resolution, showing that the public is in support of your art piece and requesting the installation. And then CalTrans would be reviewing it from their side as well. For maintenance, traffic, environmental concerns, any other units from the CalTrans side to make sure that there's no problem. So obviously you're not going to be putting sparkles and there are nothing that's going to distract drivers. It has to be a certain size. It has to be certain colors, certain there's a lot of qualifications. And so that's what they're reviewing that nothing's going to be distracting to the drivers. And then you would get your final proposal. And that's where you would get all your licensing agreements, your maintenance agreements, those would all be drafted, reviewed and accepted during your final proposal step. And then you would move on to your encroachment permit. And that's when you would also install your art and then after your project is completed, all of that would be submitted by your district art coordinator and all your final documents would be submitted on their behalf and then you would be done just maintaining it would be the responsibility of the city. Through the chair what's an encouragement permit? Why do you ask the one thing I don't know. Why do you ask the one thing I don't know? The through the chair, a correctional agreement, is anytime you encroach upon another's property, so we issue encroachment permits when people come on to city parks to do any work if you're an outside organization. It's basically a permit. So in this case, we are doing work on a CalTrans property, so we have to have an encroachment permit to be doing something to their property. Like I could tell you everything else about CalTrans art. The permission to encroach upon their property. What's that? They do. CalTrans issues it. Yeah. Okay, so they just have to say, yeah, you're approved. This is a form probably. Yeah. An application and an appointment. Chair, do they submit, do they outline their SLAs, like from us submitting a proposal to when they'll respond? They give you an estimate, but obviously it just depends on how long it takes them to review the process. So if your submittal is thorough and complete, it should be a lot quicker to receive your information back and your packet back or your proposal back. If you, you know, hand them something that, them something that you didn't go through your checklist, it's going to take a lot longer on their end. If you did your homework, it should be a lot quicker to get it back. Sometimes they'll tell you an estimate to receive something back could be a week. So it's not months, it's weeks. In theory, yes, I wouldn't expect it back in a week, but yeah, I mean, it takes a lot longer to read emails than a week, so I wouldn't expect it back in a week. And then here are some examples of some local projects that have been done. With different styles. I don't see the monkey. You don't see the monkey. Those are going to set Anna on Newtons. You. So we have lots of different options. We're very lucky here in TUS2N because we have a lot of things that make us really unique. Thank you, Alyssa, very much for doing that. and because we have a lot of things that make us really unique. Thank you, Alyssa, very much for doing that. So through the chair, you know, the good news is here, the, we have support from the Public Art Commission. You all support the reason like this. Our city council does, there would be a resolution. The concept or the design would need to go to city council and be approved by the public art commission as well as city council before we even did the concept through CalTrans. So but there I think city council is open to this idea. Certain council members have even mentioned it. Specifically in one of the underpasses, along, think Red Hill? Maybe Newport. No, Newport, you're right. Thank you, Commissioner. So that's a good news. The bad news is it is a lot of steps to go through. It is a lot of staff time. And we expect that CalTrans would be relatively quick in their response, assuming there wasn't a lot of changes or edits that they had, that's the factor we don't know. Alyssa Rojas would be their lead on this, the point person on this project, she is very thorough. And so I would guess that there wouldn't be many issues for them to have edits on, but we don't know that for sure. And then it's just a matter of, I'm guessing they'll be able to turn on their end around pretty quick, because I think what Elissa will provide will be thorough. Well, we will provide, it will be thorough. But the turnaround on our end, based on Elissa's time, my time, Maryland's time, it will vary depending on what else is going on. So that could take longer, it could take, you know, I don't know, six months to get to the point that we're ready to install it. Maybe more, but I think just based on time and what time available and the process, you know, sometimes it might be a delay, it might be getting the Honesty Council agenda for a resolution or the approval of a proposal. But, and then we have to do, for a resolution or the approval of a proposal. And then we have to do, we have to do public input, which really what they're looking for, countouts is looking for is proof of that the public wants to support this. So we would likely have to somehow encourage public involvement in letting us know whether they wanted to see it or not. We couldn't, I don't think it, I don't know, well, I don't know if it would be sufficient enough to have it on this agenda, let the public know about it and say it was a public meeting, no one came to say anything negative about it, therefore a public wants it. I don't know if that's sufficient or not, or if we would need to invite the public out to see the concept and be more thorough in recruiting the public to come and give us their input. Who the chair, can you leverage social media? Oh, of course. In comments? Yes. I think we can do that. Yes. I think that's one of the ways we can get input. I'm sure our coordinator would help us with that too. But I don't know if there's a certain amount where it's like You need to have a minimum of 15 people who show up. You need to have a minimum. We don't know about it Yeah, our coordinator would help us and guide us through that process. That's what they're for but we don't we don't know We also have some really solid community partners too. I'm sure would be willing to have a conversation with about this. Were there the public like TACFA being the public? Yes agreed that is a good point. And through the chair we just reviewed all these artists with some experience engaging the public in their art. So I think if we have to go that route that's fine too. Yeah. So really what we as staff would need is like it says in the recommendations to request staff advance the project. If the location, the preferred location for the commission is that underpass at Newport that's great or if there's if you would like staff to look at other options for that, bringing bad inspiration back as well as associated cost estimates and then the possibility of grant opportunities. Previous, there was a clean California grant opportunity available. We were not, we have a firm that does some of our grant evaluation for us and we would not be eligible. This is the placentia and Santa Ana, those examples you saw, they were able to use that funding. One, that funding has turned out, so it's not available anymore, but also it's called Clean California. We, according to the grant consultant, we were an eligible based on our population and income and so forth. So, but we look at other options. There are other grants out there. And, but first we really need to start with, location and what we think that would cost, what the options are that way. Because a mural could be, as you all, as the commission all knows, a mural could be where you cover the whole space with paint in some design or like, well, Mike Talber's love bird design at Laurel Glenn, he, it was just two birds on a wire and it didn't fill up the space 100 percent. It was a mural that, so that's an option for the mural as well, that would affect I think the dollar or the amount or the cost of what it would be. So again, we'd just be making estimates and we'll figure that out as we move forward, but we just need that direction from the commission to, I guess, start the ball rolling. And then any ideas along those lines would be welcome. Hey, thank you. I really like that this project gets art in all kinds of places in the city. We've got our creative signals project that's out on the streets We're getting into the city. I I am really I'm really excited about this project, but what are you all think? Thank you the chair. I love this right. I think that this is a great It's it's a little bit of effort. We appreciate staff support in this But I think it's something we try. I think it's also great timing. If we think about that, I'm thinking on Newport specifically, that corridor between where the high school is, and there's a lot of residential, that I could personally experience them walking under there every day. That area is undergoing a redevelopment. They're building a new housing unit behind the jack in the box there that I think is just going to elude to more pedestrian traffic. I know similarly on Red Hill they're doing a redevelopment there but we have to start somewhere so we start with one I think on Newport specifically we can iron that down We could also approach that developer to see if there would be some funds available for that right We don't have percent for art. We've been very generous that developers have offered that I think it's a perfect segue for us to get started I think it's gonna be an advanced timeline, but so we'll building and construction with that and that revibrance of that area. So I say full steam ahead. Right? Anybody else? The comments were just going to be that I fully support it and I really appreciate all the research. I was not surprised to hear that CalTrans was quite the process for evoking a method here, but I appreciate you looking into it and thank you for the support because I fully support us moving forward with it. What do you think about locations? Is that a good spot? Or would you like them to explore some other spots? Yeah, I like the spot. Thank you Commissioner Gallow, good suggestion. I wouldn't be opposed to having a couple options to look at. And I think type of art too, kind of looking at the examples. I don't have a space, I don't think that would warrant a sculpture or anything not that I can think of, but I think definitely kind of going the painting, the rule route is probably the right choice and the right avenue, but I think having a couple options would be great. So evaluate. Through the chair. So other options for sculpture, sometimes if you're going to Las Vegas or Thurazona, sometimes on the overpasses, the fence or the guardrails are some sort of, maybe laser cut design, I think in Las Vegas. There's coyotes and cactuses and stuff. So we could you death another option is something up there. Is the CalTrans is basically just gonna be considered the five freeway and the the freeways right not not the actualway and the freeways, right? Not the actual roads and testing. Or is it anything? I think so. We can confirm that with a coordinator. I think I'm hoping they'll be helpful that way. But I believe that's how I understand it. Yes. That's where their territory is. Correct. OK. Yeah, I think you'd have probably new port. You'd have Red Hill. That's what they're that's where their territory is correct. Okay. Yeah. You'd have probably new port. You'd have Red Hill. You'd also have the underpass on Main Street that goes Then anything above ground. And then the jamboree road and eddinger is that still testing or I know that's kind of the When you're on an eddinger and you're going you know, hop on the... on jamboree. I know that's kind of the city limits there. It is. I'm not... We'd have to look at where the... You're right. I think... Well, I think not. It's not freeway. It's the... Like the jamboree. I think one side of jamboree's testing, the others are vines. You probably do have one wall there. Those would be the underpasses. That's an interesting area that would tie into the coming sculpture park because it would be at the end of that sculpture park would be art potentially. Right? So you're thinking of that by the jamboree. Yeah, and the other one is test and ranch road, but that's also not freeway. That's just the bridge that goes over and juror into as you had toward the hangers. Yeah, that's also not freeway. And through the chair, I think that there's so many good placements. I would love over the course of this commission that we cover all of them, right? I think we can choose one, though, to kind of direct staff, given the other involvements, that other things that are needed. Yes, please. I can reach out to the art coordinator and see what options we have in the city and then bring those back, assuming that they get back to us enough time to bring that back in October. I can bring that back to you guys in October And we can map them out and show you what we have for October Do the chair maybe to that point of what's Cal trans like Tustin Ranch Road goes over the train tracks is that Cal trans Hopefully I have that for you on October I do think that those underpasses on Red Hill and Newport are prime locations and we would likely choose those. I think it's great. I agree with Commissioner Gollo that it would be just such an upgrade for all those students that walk home every day to have something like that along their route. So I would definitely be in favor of moving forward on that. I am very interested in the cost moving forward on that. I am very interested in the cost and how much fundraising we're going to need to do in order to achieve it. The other thing I'm happy about is that there is actually a program for this and that we have people to work with at CalTrans. I was excited by the existing projects that they've done so I think the cost is going to be significant in these spaces And that's where if we could maybe align with some of the development the city's doing and and generously ask those companies I think that's a good opportunity We can't guarantee funding right but we're building new things it can right possibly help All right, I think we're ready to make a motion with somebody like to Finish this conversation Motion to Proceed with this project by asking staff to come back in our next meeting with locations where we can finalize one and begin the process I second that all in favor. Hi. Hi. Great. Thank you. Okay. It's the time of year where we have the Test and Tiller Days festival. Always a great, great time. If the staff have anything to say at front or. Yeah. Yes. Please. Thank you, Chairperson. So yes. Tiller Days is coming up. Hopefully you all received your invite to the VIP party on Thursday night. Backstage Rock Show themed and Alyssa and her team are hard at work or have put together a great party for that and will be hard at work setting that up. But that's where we kick things off so So we hope to have the commissioner is there. We will have food, we will have cocktails, we will have branded swag to purchase. We'll just call it that. But I'll use this purchase. So we start the weekend with that. And then Saturday morning, there is the pancake breakfast. Until today's parade we will have the the shuttle or the bus that will pick people that is available to pick commissioners up out at C T off of I'm forgetting the name of the street. No, not prospect the other one. Second? Bonita, thank you. I totally blanked on that. Sorry, commissioners. So, be able to be there to pick up commissioners and VIPs and take them over to the Pancake Breakfast as well as from the Pancake Breakfast to the Parade. Start. Also, we do have a trailer reserved for the commission. And the commission has had some great ideas in the past on themes for your float. And I don't know, we don't know at this point the commission's availability, but we do have that available for you. And if that's something that you would like to pursue and for the record, the Community Services Commission, who met earlier today, because we did their park tour, they did, they will be participating. And we have the chairperson here with us today in the audience, Donna Marche Perry. And they chose to do a rock show, a music theme with theirs, to where they'll have you know, inflatable guitars, maybe some other instruments, maybe a microphone, and they'll just, they'll be their theme is music and rock and roll. There was talk of them dressing up like KISS, but that was not the motion I don't think that was approved. So it was something a little bit more low-key than that, but that is their theme. I'm not just saying you can't have the same theme. Public Art Commission, but they did call dibs. And so the commission is welcome to identify a theme today if you need to have staff's help with anything or that something commission can figure out later. but it is available to you and then, I think that's it. Yes, and all the other details are in the staff report. We will get an email out very soon with these details as well, especially as it relates to the pancake breakfast and the parade and the kickoff. Well, the kickoff party already went out. So the pancake breakfast and parade will come out as soon as well. But yeah, we're excited. It'll be another great year. You see the fly up on the screen right now. You see the flyer there in the center. It is, I love that flyer so much. Cindy Diaz in our front office designed that. She's in a great job with it. So I should be a good time. All right. So I did see the email about the kickoff party and let's make sure to RSVP by September 27th. So we have our spot. Commissioner Golo, you're usually our rain leader. I'm a leader. So hard to the Parade subcommittee. I forgot about it. I am sorry. Yes. There is a parade subcommittee with a made up of Commissioner Golo and was it Commissioner was it was a commissioner he was a villain was me no it wasn't it was we're on top of our concept is aligning with our make a house a home installation we're gonna make a miniature version of that on the float oh we are yes I made the prototype one house at a foam board. It fell apart. I'm upgrading to plywood. That's the goal this weekend. And then we'll have a gathering where we figure out how to install it. It was not very hard. So I believe in this. Who was the other member of this subcommittee? We just all laughed about it. We never really formalized it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Usual because this commission will definitely not all get together and not talk about art and build this on a week. Yes, thank you. The committee will. So we are on track to recreate this wonderful piece to get some publicity for our art around testing. Okay. And you're in. Rock the house. We could, I think that would be a good theme to play off on community services. Rock the house, thank you for that. Rock the bird house. A kissing bird house. I'm using a, so inside the fun thing, we have to make this work, but I've just, I've stolen a child's toy with the glow stick fort to make the little glowing inside the houses. I know there's a little fort kids for kids. It looks pretty cool. I did not take a little Fort kids for kids. It looks pretty cool. I did not take a picture to share. Awesome. Thank you so much. I will gladly help you co-chair and build. Okay. So if our subcommittee could continue to work on that, let others know what we can do to assist. I know we made sure to be prepared the night before with installed on the trailer. Just so you have to organize with the city a time in advance if we can access that trailer to do any installation, or I think that would be preferred if possible. Yeah, the chair, yeah, probably the day before, just because of availability. So if they're not using it for anything else. But this being a little more structure will want to dry run and then take it down for the transit and put it back up in the morning of. Yeah. Just so you know, my favorite floats are root beer and Dr. Pepper. So keep that in mind. I see what you're planning. All right. I'll rock the house. Rock the house exactly. OK. Rock the house rock the house exactly Okay, do we need a motion? We need a motion to that the commission was going to participate with that theme and and then RSP P individually for involvement in the different components of the event hey I second that I Can't make a motion. Can you repeat? Motion to rock the house and participate in events our October activities is the test in art walk, which is on Saturday, October 19th. And I believe last time we decided that we are going to have our usual booth, but hopefully somewhere near the Make a House of Home Gifted Public Art sculpture. There anything we need to discuss about our participation or is just for informational purposes? That's a good question. So yes, as you see in the last paragraph of the under discussion, what the commission discussed at the July 17th meeting, the group be located with a view of the Make a House of Home and that having informational materials available including a map of the public art project, the current locations, we've done that in the past. And so I think I would turn that question back to the commission is if what is the commission wish to have there other than that map with all the locations of in Tussin of where the public art is. Are there other items the placement we can do that map we can do are there Other items that the commission would wish to see wish to have that we can help with. I think just the information about the Centennial Park mural and the public input dates. Those would be ideal. Who the chair, we have those wonderful kid activity sheets that Alyssa created. I think it'd be great to have those around. Kids activity sheets. Oh, the placemats. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for the chairs cards. What I think what. Megas saying is have a box there that they could put a postcard they can actually fill out a postcard send it to Ramma and we'll mail it for them. Is that what you're saying? What are the postcards? Am I law? Am I missing? All the ones that the sixth member of the public art commission made. Yes, I'm sorry. I forgot all about those. Yes. We still have some. Yes, we still have some. Okay. Those were, excuse me, those were printed I think just on a printer, right? Yeah. Oh, what the? I can see the needy. Yes, you did. Can I see that one of those? Can we have these printed? Actually, I had a printer on a postcard. Is that possible? Is that something we'd have to motion on? And is that a new funding issue? Did the chair are they not printed on? They're just printed on. It's a paper card. It's like light card stock. Oh, actual. I mean, it'll work. Are they thin? We're allowed to stand up. They are. That's not something to do. It's fine. Yes, we printed those in-house with our printer. Oh, they were printed here. Okay. They were printed with the signature. That's probably something. If to do any the thicker card stock, I'm guessing we'd have to send them out. There's a limited budget for that. We could probably figure something out. It's just an idea. I didn't realize they were printed in house. So I withdraw my. Okay. We already have a lot of them printed, so I can think I'd be a check. Okay. The preference would be to use what we have. So post cards. That would be great. We have a lot of people that come by our booth, at least we did last year. So. So if I understand correctly through the chair, I should say, that we'd have pens and stamps available and as well so that somebody could use one of these post cards to write something to somebody and then give it right back to us and we can let them put the stamp on it even and then we just make sure they get mailed. Well, if you could share, I don't feel the need to have the stamps there, right? If we could just collect them and mailed them, I don't want people running away with stamps. We can go back and wrong with the stamp on because there's a different postcard. The postcard. Okay. Great is a rock. Yeah, significantly less. Okay. And we have a box where they have a box. Yeah, we just collect fully fold out postcards and we deal with mailing them. Okay. Got a fund. Sometimes you lose that excitement in the moment, right? If they fill it out and spread some tests in art love to a fellow resident, that'd be fun. And we have a banner, right, of updated logo, updated branding related to our public art commission. I know someone on the commission has created banners in the past. I would love for us to have a nice vinyl updated one that walks away to fit in a, you know, in a tent and okay. Can it be yes. We do have a banner and I think we know where it is. Okay. Do we need any of those banners for our float? Yeah. So through the chair we have the formal ones for the city that we would love to get them for the float as well. Then we have some informal ones which we have custody of which we can decide how to use. Official versus the unofficial. Okay. Fun official. official versus the unofficial. Okay, unofficial. So what I have, if I could summarize, the information about the Centennial Park, Campbell Wall, Murrow, Public Engagement, flyers essentially on that, the place mats with crayons, and then the postcards, the art cards, with a box that people could fill out, do a postcard to somebody, and put them in the box and we'll email them. Cranes. Cranes, you said? Yeah, Cranes is on the list, okay. And then the map, the poster with a map, location of all the public art projects, and the banner. Great. Okay. Thank you very much. public art projects and the banner. Great. OK. Thank you very much. So is everyone in town for that weekend? Or I don't so our next meeting is a few days before. So we can figure out shifts then, but just wanted to just double check. Because everybody in town and planning to participate. I think you can a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a And I'll say I do that. Second, down there. Okay. All in favor? Hi. Thank you. To the Chair before we move off that item, I will, I should add that the, and the tail end of the art walk this year. Chalk restaurant is doing a wine festival. That they will be taking advantage of the street closure to, that we're doing to have, they'll overlap their, their event time will overlap with our event time. The last couple hours of the RWOCK will also be simultaneously the chalks wine festival. So just be aware of that. Chalk, like a restaurant? The restaurant, yes. Is a restaurant on El Camino Real. OK. restaurant? Yes, there's a restaurant on El Camillo. Okay. I think we've just about. Are we to open form reports? Is that correct? We are. Great. Anyone have anything to discuss under open form reports, which includes creative placemaking, community collaboration, potential event at the Hanger, our fundraising, our sculpture walk, our creative signals? Any movement on any of these topics? The comment, the two latest Creative Signals Project, thanks to Saf for seeing them through. They look phenomenal. Okay. No? Okay. Okay, great. That was easy. Directors report. Yes. So first, wait, this is, yeah. Oh, since I'm sorry, yeah, you're right. Sorry, we have a sunset market. It's in London. It is a long day, with a park tour. The sunset market, you know a sunset market. It's been a long day. It is a long day for the park tour. The sunset market, you know it's tomorrow. I don't know if you guys knew that. It is tomorrow starting at 5 p.m. in Old Town. This will be the last one for the current season. We will be doing a, after looking at all of the sunset markets, we'll be doing an evaluation. It's very likely we'll bring this back next year, but this will be the last one for this current year. And so we're excited to make that offering and Marilyn Bussier and her team have continued to have a top notch event. So we're excited for that to culminate for the current year. Now, at the same time, this is a public art update, segment of the Director's Report, but also during the commission or during the Sense of Market, we have this little special event, Marilyn, Deputy Director, but you sure. Can you tell us about it? Okay. Yes. So, at seven o'clock, we'll gather in front of our beautiful Make a House home and we'll have a presentation and we will definitely honor her roomy for her efforts and also the many different people that help make it happen like Public Works Department, the architect. He did go out this weekend and dig himself. I brought him water. With the shovel, he planted the plants, these butterfly bushes, and put, what's the top thing you put on top? I can't think right now. Moults. Moults. Thank you. And he molts it. And then he went back out and added some more, because he didn't think he had enough. And it looks beautiful. So it'll be a short presentation but it'll be quite lovely. We hope you come. Herromete's inviting her family and friends and her students from Cal State Fullerton. So we hope you get a crowd. We will make announcements at Sunset Market about Make a House of Home during the event. And hopefully we can walk people safely over. We'll have flashlights because it will get dark so I'll have some flashlights for you guys for the walk back. So we'd love you to participate in everything and definitely look forward to celebrating this huge project that you guys did. So thank you. Through the chair, will there be a... Oh, we are going to do a countdown. And we may not have a big giant extension cord because there will be a gentleman down the street and we'll be giving him the signal but the mayor and we'll be counting it down with her only and we'll make that happen. You're a fake. We'll do something. We're going to do something and you guys will count it down like we do at tree lighting 10, 9, 8, so we're going to build the excitement. And then I want to be sure to thank men of because she gave us a contacts and Alyssa Rojas sent out to all of her media contacts and the Orange County Register reached out. So hopefully they will provide a photographer and possibly a reporter and be there that night and we'll fingers crossed. But be looking for social media because we have some exciting reels that will be posted tomorrow. So if you're not following Test and Sons at Market or Test and Parks and Recreation, please follow. I find it hard to believe through the chair. I find it hard to believe Deputy Director Busew that this commission does not follow Test and Parks and Rec on social media. Thank you, Marilyn, for putting all this together. Excited for this. Excited to have it be a part of the sunset market and make it official that this is in Tess. And like you said, honor her on me. So next. So do the chair, May I ask a quick question about that? Yes. So timing of that, it is at 7 p.m. I believe that's when the lights are sort of going on. So would you like, we should probably be there 5, 10, 15 minutes? Oh yeah, I'll gather you guys. Okay. You will probably get there 10 to 15 minutes ahead of time. There is at 6 o'clock, there is a bench dedication, but that will probably end and people may mull about there or they may go back to the market. So I will be a social director and make sure everybody is moving. Okay. So I'll be helping out as well. Something. You'll hear me. I'll find you. I think that you're Maryland. I'll both be at the bench dedication for Margaret Pottenger. And so then we will be, welcome. The commission is welcome to join us at that. And then we'll move slowly down the street from there to the Macau's home. And seven o'clock is a ballpark. It's really what we're about at this point. So, but Councils invited the Community Services Commission who has invited you all. So, and then it sounds like her only is bringing a posse as well. So that would be great. Okay, as Commissioner Golo mentioned, And it sounds like her only is bringing a posse as well. So that would be great. OK. As Commissioner Golo mentioned, we have installed the two creative signal, the latest two creative signal cabinets by Annie Hong and Minnie and Ernest. You can see them there and the locations. We actually on the park to today, tour today, we drove by the one at Browning and Walnut in front of Nelson Elementary School, I think like three times and Thought three times a day. So that's in place and looks great The other one looks really nice from the trail. I know it's the street. The trail it really stands out as well. Yeah Okay, CIP updates mark barracks and our park tour today, we did go by, that is construction happening today. And then to the right is the, is like that's the overview page of the plans with the logo there next to the bark barracks. That's not our final title or our final logo for the bark barrack, that's still being worked on, but that was just for the groundbreaking But that isn't in progress and we're moving ahead still expect to be done sometime around the end of the year and then be able to open it more like February When the plants and trees all get established Centennial Park that project continues as well and that photo is from today as well in the park tour. And so, well, again, moving well, and do expect to be done well before the 4th of July, 2025. It's hopefully sometime late spring, early summer, but definitely before July. And in both cases, the contractor is hard at work. We have construction management happening for both. So that should keep us on time moving forward. And then the park tour, this is just a photo of us on the park tour today. And part of the reason I bring this, I showed this photo here is also one of my mad on items, the department reorganization. So recently in the Parks and Recreation Department went under reorganization because we expanded. Historically, or before this, we had two divisions, we had two recreation supervisors. We had a human services division. That's the senior center, the test and family youth center, and our support services team, the facilities team. That's human services. And then recreation services was everything else. All the day camp, the summer camp, some of the good number of the events, sports, facilities, and we added, recently, we organized and added a third division, a park services division, to oversee everything related to our programming related to parks. We promoted Carl Halili into a supervisor role. He was a coordinator at Columbus, Tusson. He is now a supervisor. And then we also, because of a one-departure with Carl's promotion and then before that garrisons promotion to a supervisor, we had three openings. So in this photo, there are three people that are not commissioners or Maryland or I. On the far left, that is Miriam Garcia, she was at the test in sports park. She has been promoted to full-time coordinator at the veteran sports park in the annex, so she reports to Carl. And then right behind her is Jessica Castro, who was at Columbus Tusson as a part-time staff. She is now full-time overseeing Columbus Tusson Recreation Center. And on the far right is Miles Garvin and Miles, all three of these staff have been with us for five plus years, worked their way up from rec leader to program assistant and now full-time staff. Miles was at the Veteran Sports Park in the annex and now he overseas the Adult Sports Program and he's out at Test and Sports Park. So we are fully staff now with three divisions, some new faces. For sure, Maryam on the far left and Miles on the far right will be at tomorrow night's event Sunset Market. I'm not sure if Jessica will be but you'll see these people more and more but we're the you know the expansion we have with the new and different programs, well, sunset market being one example, but also the dog park coming online, other potential new parks and tests that are legacy down the road. We're expanding. We're continuing to do new and enjoyable activities and offerings for the community. So we've been able to expand a little bit and want to let the commission all know about that. And this picture was a great way to do that. And then, it's into the slideshow. I'll continue to go back to. This will be something I bring up. I have one more item. I'll bring this up now just very briefly. Well, I may or may not have it ready for the next meeting, but the Economic Development Department, they oversee the temporary shelter, the homeless shelter that we haven't tested, this down off of Buranka in the legacy area. And they have, so it's operated by staff from the, what's it called? The Rescue Mission, thank you. And, but it's our facility. And there are lockers, outdoor lockers, like you, the kind you'd maybe see in like a high school, like a tall lockers, that the residents of the shelter that they use for their personal belongings. Now those lockers are isores. They're kind of rusty, they're faded, and Jerry Craig, who I've talked about him before in this meeting, he or to the commission, he has asked about the potential for doing something to where there could be public art put onto those lockers. And so we're working through what that looks like. We have actually reached out to the Tess and Unified School District to see if any of the programs would be interested in something like this. If we don't hear from the school district, our next phase potentially is to reach out to our artists that are database of artists to see if anybody's interested. I'm not sure what it looks like. You know, it's, I think Jerry Craig will work with public works to potentially get the lockers primed and painted, just a new coat of paint, with the idea of being an artist could then do some kind of mural, it's like 89 lockers. So it's a lot of different lockers. And they're in groups of like three or five or 10. So the idea would be potentially to do some kind of themed imagery on that ties all the lockers together, not 100% of the space, but something, I just threw out the examples of rainbows and leprechauns. And so somehow, rainbows and flowers, unicorns, thank you. Do you have your lucky charms? No lucky charms. But rainbows and unicorns, and somehow that would be painted over the whole thing. So funding, it may be something that we come back to the commission and recommend that the commission use public art funds for that. But I have more, we have more work to do. But I wanted to at least have it on your radar. So it wasn't a total surprise if we're bringing it back to a future meeting. Because if we have an artist that says they want in and they can do it for a good price, then we're going to bring that to the commission. Because if we find an artist and say, oh, we want to be part of something that contributes to a quality of life at the homeless shelter, temporary homeless shelter, we want to move forward with that. And we want to see that happen. And so just a heads up, I guess, on that one. I don't need any decision from the commission, that'll be a future meeting. Yeah, that's true. So we'll figure out how we get that information out, but just an awareness thing. Getting a lot of head nods. I noticed that. I love that. Thank you very much. And that concludes my director's report. That's the perfect use of art and our resources. So thank you for bringing that to our attention. All right, it's time for commission comments. I would like to start out and just, I want to thank Commissioner McMullen for bringing us this artwork from this great artist, Haromi, who did make a house at home. I hope it's the first of many artworks that we are gifted. Because I just, I think it's great. So thank you very much for connecting us to her. I attended the Business Recognition lunch along with Commissioner Pollywall and Brunner at the end of August. That was a lot of fun right here in the community center. So a lot of great small businesses in our community it was fun to celebrate them. I also spoke recently with Erin at the Test and Community Foundation. I can't remember. Nilsen, thank you. They are interested in doing some fundraising with us, maybe in the spring. So we might want to consider making that an agenda item for a future meeting, talking about whether that's something that we want to entertain. If we have a project that needs some funding, that we could collaborate with them on doing that. Other than that, I'm just excited for what's going to happen next month. We have a lot of great activities. Would you like to continue? Sure. Really looking forward to tomorrow night's last market. Not that it's the last one, but that's just going to be exciting. It's been I think very successful. I've gone to several of them and great job putting that together, all the staff and also excited to to see the artwork to make a house of home Light up for the first time That'll be a very exciting. Heromi is a great great person great artist So very excited for that and it's I think it's a great addition to the city. And so it's wonderful. And just looking forward to a great fall, it seems like we've gone for a couple of months. And now there's just a whole bunch of stuff coming up. One thing after another. So it's very fun to be part of that. So thank you for all your work. Appreciate it. Great, please. Sure. Actually, I'd like to start my comments with a question. I know that we were forwarded a comment that we received at the end of our dark in August, at the end of our July meeting from a student at Beckman High School. I just wanted to make sure that that student got a response. It didn't feel like it was, it directly involved an initiative that the Public Art Commission could take on, but I wanted to make sure that they heard from staff. Yeah, through the chair, yes, they did. This person, Caroline Cho, did, yes, her idea for a communication board that would be adjacent to, put adjacent to playgrounds for nonverbal children and adults for that matter. That is an idea we are pursuing. You're right, the commissioner doesn't do as much for the public art commission, but we do think it's a great idea. It is an idea that we are once we flesh it out a little bit more and we've asked young Miss Cho to make some tweaks to her design. It's something actually we're going gonna let the community services commission know about and not only use it put out at a few playgrounds but make a potentially do a version that we would take to events. There would be a communication, a larger communication board that would have events that basically it's just a board that people can point to ideas or images that communicate their feelings or their, what they're experiencing at the moment. And so it's just a great idea, an amazing young lady, great ideas, great passion for, for especially children, nonverbal children, but just atypical, what's their terminology? She has that she did a whole glossary, she did a glossary of neurodiversity. Neurodiversity glossary that she put together that a lot of the schools in Tussling Unified have in their campus, but yeah, just a passionate, unglated that we definitely love the idea that she's bringing to the table that we are moving forward with. Thank you so much. I share that because she listened to our commission meeting in July and sort of had this feedback for us. So I also want to thank her for attending that meeting and for being such a great inspiring youth in our community. That's amazing. Love to meet her one day. She's just listening again, hello, Carolyn. I wanted to just also comment on a lot of the great pieces that are coming up, the Creative Signal Cabinet Raps are great. In the photo that you showed earlier, which you don't see if you're driving by, is there are a lot of very colorful signs and banners on that fence, of course, related to schools and some announcements. But our wrap just really still stands out on that corner. It does a really good job. So I think that design and that choice, the pinwheels was such a good design and location for it. So it doesn't conflict or anything. I just drive by it a lot. So I just wanted to comment on that. Very excited for tomorrow, last sunset market, and make a house of home dedication. I do want to thank staff for your work on all the great media outreach. And thank you for letting me collaborate with you. And just to note on that, we did really go far and wide with this. Sometimes you just got to put it out there and see if folks' fights are really happy to see that those here register was interested and if they, you know, hopefully they can come tomorrow. But we did also send this to this one was really just something I felt that we could get some broadcast attention. So we did put that out there. You know, you just gotta, you just gotta try and see, and start creating those relationships for future opportunities as well. So I know we didn't get any bites on that, but that's the world we live in. And we keep trying for the next round of them, but I just wanted to share that that was outreach, that was really thoughtfully curated and sent out, and that there'll be some post announcements about it as well, kind of a recap, seeing officials gather at this dedication, et cetera. So a lot of good continued movement on that piece. Other than that, I'm just looking forward to the next season of events here. Can't believe September is already fine by. So thank you. Congratulations to you all for just the great work. Really appreciate it. I'm by saying just thank you to the best staff that there is. Congratulations to all the promotions in the city all well deserved and look forward to seeing everybody tomorrow night. All right. Well, thank you everyone for all of your efforts both staff and commission and we are adjourned. That was a good full meeting. Great meeting. Great meeting.