you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you Welcome to today's meeting. If you wish to address the board regarding an item listed on this agenda, please complete a registration form at the rear of the room and place it in the speaker request box located on the dias priority consideration of that item. We ask that speakers limit their comments to seven minutes and that large groups name a spokesman whenever possible. And we want to thank you for your interest in participating in the city government and those watching us on television today. Thank you for taking the time to watch us. First item on the agenda we've called order is roll call. Number McKee, here we go. Present. Dr. Gillie, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. All right, item number four is changes to the agenda and I know we do have a one proposed. Let's see which, that was the. Item seven H. Seven H. Some of the participants for 7-H on that team need to be back to the West Coast. Tomorrow and our concern about getting hung up with the pending hurricane and the vast we move forward. Ericka needs to be here for that hearing and she's involved in a meeting now with City Manager on the impending hurricane and probably will not be here until at 10 30 or 11 o'clock so we Would like to take the first two items on the agenda in its order and slip that Seven age into the third position If that's allH into the third position. If that's all right with the applicant, and the board, and anybody having problems with moving that agenda around? No issue. No issue. Okay. So we'll move 7-H to be. Following 7-C. Following 7-C. C, O. B. B. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, seven B. Okay. Before you seven C. Okay. Any other changes to the agenda? No other changes here. Stop. Okay. Next item is approval of the minutes from the August 18th meeting. Are there any amendments to that? No. Those minutes and he comments on the minutes? Nope. If not, I'll entertain a motion. Move to approve the minutes. Second. All in favor. Aye. Opposed? The minutes stand as drafted. Yeah, before we get started in our public hearings, is there anybody who wants to make a public comment anything other than the agenda, the hearings on the agenda? I have no slips. You have no slips. Seeing no takers, we'll move on to starting our public hearings. First item on the agenda is 7a, which is 20-drb38 rev 1. It's a resolution for the purposes of determining a revolution. Revolution. So it's gonna be one of those mornings I can tell. A revision number one to the final design review, petition 20-drb38 to modify the existing final approval of exterior design, landscaping, and other appointments to 63 luxury apartments at the 710 Residence Development located at 710 Goodlett-Frank North, Naples 4-3-4-102, and owned by Sahasha VLT incorporated and more fully described here and provided an effective date. Whatever that means. Michael Shealey AIA presenting good morning Michael. Good morning. Disclosures first of all. Shane. Review the application familiar with the site. I too have reviewed the application and are familiar with the site. I'm familiar with the site and reviewed the application. I'm familiar with the site and reviewed the application. Potty measures. Thank you. Thanks for having us here this morning. As you have understood, this is a revision to a previously approved DRB meeting on January 7th, 2021. I think Chairman Ruby was in that meeting, maybe one or two others were. Excuse me. I'm sorry. Can I swear in anybody that's going to test? Oh. It's going to be one of those morning. Okay. Anyone testifying in this case please get sworn in. Thank you. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony are about to give the truth the whole truth and nothing about the truth? I do. Thank you. All right. Thank you. So this this project was previously approved at this board on January 27, 2021. It's been a slow moving project. I've been involved with it for about seven years now. And we have gone through several iterations of design prior to the previous approval. The project has been building permitted and is now under construction. Site work is beginning. So the project is underway. Today with me I have our team, my partner, Kenley Buckingham, the owner and developer Pete Shaheen from Shaheen Development and Sagan on Michigan and his assistant, Kerry Davis. We have KP Peshat. I can't say his name. Posseshkin. Sorry. We have our landscape architect Brian McFall. And from the contractor Jacob Pizolowski. That's a tough one too. At any rate, our change is to this project. We're going to start with a site plan here. Just in general, the buildings are changing. The building sizes aren't changing the heights, the number of units, snow architectural or structural changes to any of the buildings are being done. This is about we've changed the windows in the buildings to have reduced millions and make them larger for the residents. We are changing some finishes. We're basically trying to update the palette from where we were four years ago. Our original palette, which you'll see in the renderings, is was a little more dark browns and a little darker palette overall. We've lightened it to try to achieve kind of a more contemporary aesthetic, I think, with what's going on and what we're seeing changes in the market a little bit more like perhaps Naples Park. We've changed the roofing from concrete tile, dark brown concrete tile to metal. We have all dark bronze metal roofing now, superior product. We've changed the parking. All of the parking areas from asphalt to pavers. So we've made an improvement in that regard. We've made some revisions in the landscaping. If you look at this plan, we added a generator. If you can see my mouse, I don't know where is the mouse. There it is. I got it. So right in here, we revised the pool deck slightly here and the Bachi ball court, which was here previously to add a generator that is servicing both buildings. Full building generator. It's a big, it's a big boy. And we've also added here a pool bath, small pool bath building with a couple of restrooms. Other than that, the pool deck design has remained the same. Some of the landscaping has changed slightly and Brian can review that with you. We previously had trellises surrounding three sides of the clubhouse. We removed those. We think that they weren't really that practical in the long term. So we took those out. Other than that we have changed the palette of the materials we still have the stone on the face of the building. We have changed from ceramic tile in these corner areas to a scored stucco again for longevity. Our owner is one that is somebody that develops and holds. This is not a project to be flipped. They have other assets here in Naples. They've been developing here for some time. And these units are luxury apartments. One, two, and three bedrooms. Most of the units are over 2,000 square feet. So they're very nice, high quality units. We have a four-storey building, four over parking in the front, building, four over parking in the front and a five-over parking in the back with some views of the Gordon River. I'll just go to the next slide. That's our survey. The old athletic club was here in the site. So here you can see the exterior aesthetic which we have some other renderings to go through with you as well. But it's pretty much all the same, except this has become a lighter stone. We have lighter colors. We have a gray, kind of a light gray, and an off-white for the finishes on the building. Floor plans have not changed. We did a fire pump room, I think, in one of the buildings. We've also added a roll-down gate at the parking entrance to each of the two buildings. That was not there previously. The upper floor plans do not change. The clubhouse, we removed a couple of exit doors and re-oriented the paving sidewalks around the building again for ease of access. The exteriors are the same design. We have the same brackets at the roof line. We have the same overhangs and finishes. We have some projecting sunshades. The base of the building is still all green screen. Clubhouse design has not changed except for the removal of the trellis that were on the sides. Building section, building heights have not changed. Those are the two sections section of the clubhouse. The sign design has not changed at all and its location is very close to where it was previously, all it changes is the materials. This is our current palette with the primary color in the Greek Villa accent color kind of a light gray. In the first star, dark bronze metal, sunshades, louvers, railings, and roofing. Our veneer stone is a little bit lighter than the previous pallet and the pavers throughout the site for all of the drive areas. And I will let Brian come up and go through the landscaping with you. Thank you. You know how to operate that thing? I believe so. Good morning. I'm Brian McFall with Juniper Landscaping. Landscape overall has minor changes from what was originally seen. Some of the changes I made to plant material were to go along major or predominantly with the redesign of the building to be more of a contemporary feel. This slide just represents what has been previously seen just overall view. More the same. So this shows the major amenity area with a pull design. Some of the changes in here. I was thinking about mainly safety for the residents. Original design has some coconuts in there, some larger palms. So for safety of the residents and for ease of maintenance, I've proposed to change those to more of Montgomery palm. And some multi-stemmed Christmas palms. Want to bring in scale since the buildings are so large to bring the scale down with a Minity area for residents and also for safety You know how to as much maintenance for coconuts or removing large Royal fronds And if one of those falls I don't want to injure any residents So none of the, okay. Thank you. So here are the rendering of the buildings now. Again, only a lighter color palette. We still have the stone here, the dark bronze on the roofing. We, if you look at the overall, we have scored stuff here. This was previously ceramic tile. Again, in a light color, that's our accent color there. Again, the roof bracketing is all the same. We are missing the brackets on the tower, but we'll do those. Those are on the other drawings. We have the louvers still in remaining over the windows. Same design as before. This is the pool deck. It shows the finishes of the pool deck. Back at the clubhouse area there. In the corner you can get a peak of the restroom, a little small restroom building that's been added and overall view. And that is our presentation and be happy to answer any questions you might have. Good. Shame was done with you this morning. Good morning. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. I wasn't on the designer view board first time this went around, but I certainly like the changes that have been made, especially the pavers. That's probably the biggest change I see in softening the overall landscape. A question that I'm asking every petitioner that comes in front of us is where the charging stations for electrical vehicles and storage of bicycles, electrical bicycles. We have storage for the bicycles underneath the building. We have protected areas for those charging stations. I'm not sure. We're in car port area, which is on the, I can go back to a, go to an overall site plan. This one even would show. In this area here, we have enclosed garages here and we have car ports here. How many are we doing, Pete? You know? Two charging stations in the car port area. For how many parking spaces? 63 apartments. 63 apartments I think our parking is about a hundred maybe eighty eighty five hundred space I'm not sure the parking count. No you can't get need to be at the microphone you need to be identified yourself for the record if you want to speak. Good morning my My name is Peter Shaheen, I was Shaheen Development the owner of the project. We elected to install car charging stations outside of the building structure just for a safety reason, but they will be installed in the exterior carport areas and we will be installing underground conduit to future proof those so if we need to add more car charging stations for demand we'll have that capability without major excavation work. All right because I would say that already two out of a hundred is inadequate and then we're also a community that is beginning to rely more and more on electrical bikes. So considering where this location is versus going to Fifth Avenue, it'd be nice not to have to have a car down here. So I would imagine you'll see a lot more electrical bikes and they need to get charged. Excellent point and we will definitely vet that third one. Thank you. Thank you. No further questions. Thank you. Okay. I agree with my colleague. I think the papers are a good nice change. I am concerned with the, would it be the southwest corner? If you pull up your rendering, the original versus revised. So on the left side of the screen there, that chair wall. So what we previously, yes. So what we previously, yes. So what we previously approved is breaking up that plane. And so with material change, you did that. Now it's one massive share wall plane going into the building. I think it's, I don't like it. I think you need to seriously consider material change there. It's, in my opinion, it's just too much. I know you have a similar situation on the other building, however, you're breaking that up with Bahama shutters. And that's a massive share wall. And without a material change, like you had before that we approved, I think it's a problem. Okay. I'm not, and again, we reviewed this quite a while ago. I was on the board. I thought you were, yeah. It's unfortunate to see the trellis's go. I mean, that's, I mean, for your owner's, that's a huge amenity and it breaks up the sun and creates more of a pleasant pathway. So I don't think it massively affects the design of the building, but as far as owners and experience of the property, I think that's a miss there. And you mention a roll-up door, and I don't see any material sample of what that roll-up door is going to be. It's going to be in that same bronze metal. So I don't have a picture of it though, but it'll be in the same bronze metal as the rest of the metal on the building. OK. I know it's hidden from view, and you guys want it to go away. You don't want wanted to stick out. So it'll be matching kind of the brackets and the. Yes, sir. OK. And also, I really prefer, should you mentioned it was maybe a misunderstanding. You mentioned previously it was all roof tile, but you have a, in your sample section, you have like a mill finish raseem roof. Aren't you doing that mill finish raseem roof? Where were you going to do on all the towers? These were previously concrete tile. And we had metal only on this roof, if I recall. I got you. It was just that small roof that was the mill finish. That's correct. So now you're going to the very dark bronze brown roof. I think a metal is obviously a better solution for longevity and the dark color. It's not that big big at the I mean design wise you're not really seeing those roof lines correct I mean you see it in this rendering video that's not gonna be your street you're always looking up so it's a distance would you see that and I was I was not clear on as far as do you have a render with the actual landscape changes I was unclear clear on, as far as, do you have a render with the actual landscape changes? I was unclear as to what you were, I thought you said to bring the scale of the building down, you made the plant smaller, which that doesn't make sense. You would either make the plants larger to bring the scale of the building down. So the scale that I'm referring to is just people scale. So if you're just in an open space and you have a massive building, so I'm breaking up that height difference with plant material. What was previously proposed was a lot taller material. So now I'm bringing that even smaller into a people's scale. So it feels more enclosed in a, so what was, what was, what were the like standard heights previously that we did approve? I couldn't find it in my, in my, in my, I don't know if they're, so the previous material, the mature height could be anywhere from 50 to 70 feet tall. Right. Now I'm bringing that more into maybe like a 30 to 40 foot mature height. Okay, I'm certainly not a landscape expert. So I really can't, I mean, I just know in my brain to bring the scale down of a building. But I mean, if you're still at 30 feet, I mean, that's pedestrian wise. That is doing what it's supposed to do. It's kind of breaking it up. So I think that's all I have. I mean, overall, I prefer what we originally improved. That's kind of my comments on it. So thank you. So. approve that's kind of my comments on it. So thank you. I obviously had not seen this project before. But looking at the buildings, can you bring up the 3D rendering? Sure. Again, of the buildings. Go back one? Yeah. You know, in I guess in agreeing with those comments, you've got some sure walls there that are, that lack any horizontality that don't have any character to them. The buildings look like a pair of shoe boxes, just sitting there. They don't have any real interest. You talked about it being more of a high-end luxury product. And I don't really see it with the architecture that's here. Obviously, we've already approved most of this But I think you need something in there to give it more character to create a little more horizontality and to break up some of those those walls You know obviously you can do it with some type of a finish, but You know there definitely needs to be something there, I think, especially if you're talking about it being some type of a luxury product because right now what you've got is two rectangles sitting there without any character. And that- So you're most concerned about these corner walls right here? Yeah. Yeah. But then there's also, I mean the big spaces in the middle also are very bland, which for a high-end product, you would think that there would be a lot more interest and a lot more character involved in it. Obviously, we've already approved a lot of this, which is kind of disappointing, but I think that you really want to look at, especially if you're gonna to call this a luxury product, you're going to need more character and more interest in it to give it that, otherwise you're just not obtaining what you're calling it. I also agree with Luke that those trellises that are gone definitely should come back to give the owners a more of an experience when they're coming into the buildings as opposed to just an open air walking around. Again, it breaks up the space a little more, gives it a little more interest. And then, as far as the landscaping goes, what are the install sizes of those plants. I know you're saying you know finish is going to be 30 to 40 feet but how big are they coming in. Oh you're asking me to work off memory. Um Royal Pamas would be installed 8 to 10 greywood so you're looking at maybe a 30 foot overall tree. Montgomery's, I think, were in the realm of 16 to 18 foot overall. Christmas palms would be smaller in the 12 to 14 foot realm. Okay. You don't have that in your schedule though. Like what would size plans are coming in? I have it on other plans. It's just not within this presentation. Okay. All right. I don't know if there's a way to be able to say, hey, they need to be a certain size or they should be so many gallon coming in. I know there's minimum sizes as part of code. Yeah. I exceed those. Okay. All right. Yeah, I guess those. Okay. All right Yeah, I guess you know my overall comma would be just I would look a little more if you're gonna call this a luxury product and making it look like a luxury product It looks very bland to me and like something I would expect Little bit of middle income apartment housing the installation Sizes are on the Laskey plans that are included in the package materials. They are. Unfortunately, you can't read them. Yeah, they're white and very difficult to read. They're tough. But yeah, and I think we definitely need to break up those sure to all with something. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but something I think we need to happen to give that more character. That's all I got. Thank you. I have one more character. That's all I got. Thank you. I have one more comment. Go ahead, Miss. Maybe it's a question for staff. It's most prevalent on your sign site plan. You're showing them pretty large fountain and it's gone now. And I don't know with staff how that works as far as, to be honest, I don't recall reviewing a fountain, and I don't know if that's our purview on the preliminary. But what's happened with that is that gone, I haven't heard any mention of it. Yes, that was removed in the revised landscaping plan. Previously it wasn't designed, it was only shown on the site plan. That's a change from the previous set of plans to be taken. Great. So again, it's an I understand development and cost and value engineering. But again, I think to kind of go with what Doug just mentioned, if you want a luxury product, you want a grand entrance, you want an experience that might not be something that you want to remove from this project. I think the owners are meaningful to putting it back. That was it. Thank you. Thank you. I'm very disappointed in this project. When we approved this as a final design, I thought it did what you're talking about. It would allow jury apartments. When I opened your renderings, I know two new affordable housing, four story buildings that are going up in Collier County that are much more luxurious looking than this. I think you've downgraded the value of these buildings substantially. And not only in their collar, but just in the form and the detail that you've downgraded the value of these buildings substantially. Not only in their collar but just in the form and the detail that you've taken off and the way you've degraded the massing of the building. And you have the original rendering available to show? It's in your packet. I don't have it in the present. Yeah I have it printed out in front of me but I want to make some points, a number of them as we go around. Let's take, I'm gonna start with the landscaping, that's easiest. I disagree with you about reducing the height of these things to be human scale at the ground. You can do, you've got big buildings here, and from the street, the size of that of the trees and the landscaping should be in scale with the building. Your understory plantings are what bring you down to scale. The plantings around the pool bring you down to scale. I think you can have landscaping that's in scale with the building and still with your underplantings, your near-lower plantings create that pedestrian scale, you know. I think that's a rationale to reduce the cost of the landscaping and bring down the size of the plant materials. So you're not building, you're not putting in, it's a value-engineering issue. Tell us it's a value-engineering issue. You know, no sugarcoded. It's a value-engineering issue. Tell us it's a value-engineering issue. You know, no, sugar-coated. I look at this as being, you know, what you do in the landscape plans really, you value-engineered it down to get your cost to your landscaping down. That's how I see it. Will it grow eventually? Yeah. And what I would say is at least what's facing the bull, what's facing goodlet. You know, don't poor boy that. I think you want that. You know, if you want to, if you want to, we do something behind, we're, we're, it isn't seen by the public. I'll go do so, but I would encourage you to keep the scale of the, of the, of the vegetation all along goodlet. That's a scale of the building and a scale of the street. Sorry if I may. Yeah. I think it was a failure in me not to explain what I was speaking of. I was speaking more of the amenity area around the pool when I was speaking of human scale. The buffers up front and the majority of the landscape outside the building. That will be, yes, that will be more in scale with the street view as well as the building. It should be. Yes. And I noticed, I know, and you may one comment that, you know, can say, you see that I think you say it was code compliant. Code compliant is fine, but that's the minimum. Yes, yes. And I am not here at a landscape architect come before saying all the world doing code compliant planting. They usually upgrade the experience, particularly when you're doing with something in a my luxury context. So. Yes sir. Say that for what is worth, but along the street at least that needs to be in scale with building and in scale with the quality that you want these apartments to appear to the public. Yes sir. Okay. I have a problem with the façade for a couple of reasons. And there's any consistency between the elevations that you presented to us and your rendering. Probably the best way to start talking about this, Michael, is if you go to that rendering, you had kind of a bird's eye view of the, of me. Court, you're right. Sure. Okay. This one. All right. Yeah. Let's start with the windows. One of the things on your original, and I understand the window pattern that you had on your, on our previously approved plan and the proportions of those windows was unique. It gave some character, it gave some detail. This looks like just a normal slider window that you'd put in an affordable compartment complex. So it was disappointed to see that the window style and the window changed so much. The second thing is you have a perfectly square building here. There's no ins and outs. You're just a roof line. Look at your roof line. It just goes right around the hole and it's a box with these two towers on it. If you look at your original rendering, you were pushing and pulling this. Over every balcony you pushed the roof back and then you had a little canopy over it and you originally had painted the back wall of those balconies darker than the mass where those three windows are between the two balconies. That stood out as a mass. So you ended up with a tile on the tower. You painted the back of the balcony wall, a darker color, and then that, of each balcony, so that mass stood out. So it was no longer a sheer wall. There was ins and outs that happened. Right. But when you squared off the building and just ran the parapet all the way around, you lost that massing. When you decided to paint everything white between tower and tower, you lost that massing. And that's what my colleagues are talking about. It's now a box. I would suggest you're not you're not out of the ground yet. I would suggest you start tinkering with that roof to get those massings back like your original rendering showed. And the other thing you did, the original you had an eyebrow above each of those windows that carried a datum line because you had a roof above the top floor balcony, each of the balcony, and you carried kind of an eyebrow, sunshade across each of those masses, and particularly the one on the far right. On your elevations, you still show that on your elevations, but you don't show it between the two balconies and between the balcony and the second tower, the right hand tower. So that's the inconsistency I see between the elevations and the rendering. So I'm not sure which one you're doing. But the fact that you lost that horizontal data line along the roof, I understand maybe those sun shades were more architectural, more decorative, than actually not functional. But there's another way of getting that banding across. Maybe if it's a great reveal at the head, at the same elevation as the canopy that's going to go across the top floor. But go back and somehow carry that data line, that horizontal line along the roof with a detail or a change of material in that fascia that goes around each of those masses. But the important thing is to accentuate those masses between the balconies and between the towers, tower and that one balcony. I'm not sure, that's the elevation that I've not sure. That's the elevation that I've really concentrated. I think the end elevations that you have, I don't think there weren't that many changes. Other than there had been a, what appeared to be a white column that ran up about a third of the way up the balcony to break up those There was balconies on the end of that, which is now eliminated. I don't know whether it was a functional thing before or why it was eliminated. What else will happen around? So I think that, now as far as the colors, yeah, I think the trend here is, let's spray the building light. We had Tuscan trends. We had all kinds of trends going on. Yes. You go around it. I don't think, I appreciate going to the grays rather than the Browns, but I think you still need more contrast between your grays and your whites. This big of a building in this far away from the street, they're going to appear almost the same. I think the white building is great. I think I don't have a problem with replacing the ceramic with a scored concrete. What we want is a texture and a material change on those towers, whether it's textured stucko, whether it's tile or whatever it is. But I think you need to accentuate those towers with a darker color and more, and make sure that texture comes through. Right. Okay. Are you still maintaining stone on that one, the tower to the right? Yes. Okay. So it's just a corner towers that are scored. That's correct. Okay. And it's both of those corner towers. That's correct. Right. That's correct. Okay, and it's both of those corner towers. That's correct. All right, I just think that you can do that with a collar. And I also think you need to cut the back of those, there was a balcony walls need to be dark or as well. So I think you're at a point, and this is something else. I like to say, I think you're coming in here. I know you say you're getting your building permit and you run your construction, you're almost coming in for forgiveness rather than permission. You probably should have brought this thing in before you had your building permit. Now you would, you know, I have to go back and make some tinkering to this in order to make revisions to your building permit. And I just, any applicant coming, we try to encourage them, they make changes between preliminary and final, and even after final, before you get your building permit, come back here and talk to us about it, and it'll probably save you a lot of pain and aggravation later on. So that's not only you, it's every applicant that comes to this for us. So those are my comments. I think you need to make some revisions here. Chinkering revisions and I don't think it's you're just going into foundations. Now I don't think it's going to kill you about Dr. Wright. Right. Right. So that's about all my comments. Staff report. Good morning everybody. Nathan Jones, staff plan or city and Naples. My credentials are on file with the city and as part of the submission for this month as well. As discussed, this is revision one to a previously approved 2021 plan from a plan development known as the commons which was originally approved in 1980. 63 luxury apartments, 20 apartments in one building over four stories in parking beneath, 35 in the other building with five stories parking underneath. We did on August the 23rd send out 158 letters to butters. We did not receive any written communication. We did receive some phone calls in inquiries as to what was specifically being proposed. That was the extent of any inquiry over correspondence we received, however. As previously discussed, the plan as proposed currently does make modifications to the approved 2021 plan. Staff focused pretty significantly on a lot of the items that were just recently discussed regarding articulation of the building, the varying of the materials, the contrasting of the features at the tower level, as well as throughout the colors on both structures. We did note that there are ornamental and potentially structural corbels or brackets that were used. It does appear on one of the towers in the current rendering that they weren't there anymore. We would recommend that those be put back in. There were a lot of very individualized and unique aspects of the originally proposed project that we actually found to be quite beneficial for the site. But with that, we also understand the need to make modifications to meet current market trends and so on and so forth. With respect to the landscaping aspect, the pedestrian scale was a discussion point internally as well, the removal of the fountain. Some of the ornamental plants, flowering materials, did get removed from the planting schedule, which would enhance the pedestrian experience. But to a great benefit, we'd know, yes, the pavers are a very large improvement throughout the site and will be noticed by both the patrons as well as the residents. Last but not least, focusing on the community center, the Puldek improvements have clearly been made, but focusing on the front door and the drive up again, we would just stress the original fountain with some of the ornamental plantings almost had a garden feel to it in the front and with the Port Cache, the modification there and the removal of the trellis is also would be something that we would recommend to re-examine just because they were such a strong benefit and improvement on the project. So not to rely on any other further or repeat any further comment, we would recommend if it's up to the board, the consideration of potentially conditions that would just work to put back some of the very individual and unique proportions of the project that staff actually found to be quite charming for it. So, happy to take any other questions you might have. And I agree with you. Any questions for staff? No, I'd, sorry, I had one more comment that I noticed as Chair Ruby was discussing this on the front building, the proud building. You also removed, you know, you had stone up to the second floor, first floor living, which broke up that mass as well and that's gone as well, correct? Yes. So, maybe I'm not understanding it, and maybe it's not coming through in the renderings. You mentioned you haven't changed the footprint of either building, correct? So we still have the push and pull that we're seeing in the original approved. Correct. It's not coming through in the renderings. Understood. Right. It's not coming through because of the way they topped off the building. Right. By running that top face and all the way around it makes, then they just become balcony recesses. Those masses don't read as masses. So that's why that roof needs to drop back to the back wall where the back of the balcony. So those are beginning to weed as masses down the building. And that's a change, just a change in the roof configuration on the roof. But I agree with you on the stone on the base, what it does is it brings the scale of that tower down. It isn't as tall. Should have, you create that base with another material or another texture, it doesn't have to be stone. That's a good point and probably both of those towers should have kind of a base aspect to them. Now that you're taking the tile off of the other one that's a good point. And the one other as I'm looking at these in further detail the are you sure are basically your is basically your new window package sliding glass doors with railings in front of all of them. Is that what I'm seeing in the rendering? Well, there are sliders at the balconies. The other windows are a casement window. High quality casement window. They're casement, but then there's a dark. What is the dark material under each window? That is just in the rendering. It's like showing a shade inside the window. It's probably shouldn't really. It's just a clear story when it's a clear casement. Yes, it is full height. Right. Okay. Yeah, I just I'm actually prefer the original design. I you call them millions or moles but really it's four windows mulled together, right? So it's two casements and two transoms. That's correct. Which gives it a nice scale when you're going up. Okay, that was it. Mr. Chairman, I assume you'd like to see this come back to you again. So I think we would like to ask for a continuance to the next meeting if possible and we will take your comments to heart and read address the design. We appreciate you doing that. I think just one other point of note if you look at the project going on further down the street that we've approved this single building there if you're looking for a high-end luxury product, look at what they've done there. That is going to be your high-end luxury building. And if you're going to be and you're going to be compared to it directly because it's going to be being built right next to you, this is going to look like affordable housing if you come back in with what you've got here. Next to it. Being in real estate, you're going to see that contrast substantially. So I would look at that project. The fountains, the trellises, the changes in the push and pull, all those things are very important. In the landscaping, I think that the basic landscaping that you're showing in this rendering is just what it's basic. It's screams affordable housing. It doesn't scream high end luxury product. I think you need to rework the landscaping, put in more of those personal experiences as you're coming into the buildings and give it a lot more interest if you're going to try to compete with what's going to go on next door. Otherwise, you're going to lose yourself. Right. Thank you. Yeah. One of the other things you just mentioned, I didn't realize those are casement windows that you have here. You could get back to kind of the images that you had on your previous approval. Just by running it, now you have a very vertical, very tall, by running another million, you know, a third of the way down, sure, in the window, and that will give you back to that kind of crucifix, million pattern that you indicated on the, I think it will bring the scale of those windows down to more of a square rather than a period of typical. And that's just by adding a fake million in the glass. Okay, I think just to kind of summarize, if you could go back to your original rendering, that I have in front of me here, that we approved, and based on our comments here, bring back in and without making you redesign the entire building, bring back a lot of the character that was in those buildings. Not necessarily the same materials, not necessarily the same detail, but you hear what we're talking about, the breaking up the massing, using color and texture to break up that massing, changing that roof profile, putting base on those towers to bring the scale down, dealing with the window pattern. And with the amenity package, you know, I think everybody really liked that that, that the trellisus in that little fountain made that more garden-like and made much more, trying to do what your landscape architect is trying to do, make it a bit more pedestrian scale and those things gave that scale to you. So, and you know, I know Tarlis says they don't have to be a maintenance issue if they're done with a composite or a aluminum rather than you sure, we don't do them in wood. Why they're just a toy, you know. So, I appreciate you requesting the continuance in that. Chair, just a bit of housekeeping. I think the request was continuing to the October 23rd meeting. Just a reminder that we do publish the agenda we can advance and we need materials in advance of that. At least a week in advance of that. It's not giving you a whole lot of time. About two weeks you need materials. Yeah time. About two weeks, you need materials. Yeah, and about two weeks we need materials. So we can do it. Just want to make sure the petitioner's aware of that timeline before we officially. Sure. Is that OK? Yes. Or do you just want it not to date certain? So it gives you a little more flexibility without date certain, just a container. I think we need to keep it moving. So I think we'd prefer the next meeting. Okay. So that meeting date is October 23rd. October 22th, it's very good. Thank you. All right. Hearing no objections, do we need a formal resolution? A formal motion to continue to October 23rd would be helpful because then it allows us to avoid having to re-notice the hearing for the item. I have a motion. Motion to grant a continuance to the October 23rd meeting for item 20-DRB 38 revision number one. Second. Thank you. We'll call please. Also, Member Dupont. Yes. Vice Chair Fredericks. Yes member to Pond. Yes. Vice Chair Fredericks. Yes. Member Hoi. Yes. Member McKay is absent. Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. the next item on the agenda is seven B which is 21-DRB-11. We have three. It's a resolution for the purposes of determining revision number three to the final design review petition 21-DRB-11 relating to modifications to the north side of the building located at 4445- seven, fifth avenue south on a property owned by Colson Investment LLC, Matthew Slaughter owner presenting. Good morning. Good morning. Have you been sworn in yet? No. Well, let's do that. Do you swear if I'm not the testimony you're about to give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. Good. Disclosures. Doug. I've been to the site and reviewed the application. I too have been to the site and reviewed the application. In the site, review the application as well. Then to the site, review the application. Okay. I just really wanted to come and see you all one more time before this project is. You always welcome to come by. I'll hopefully close out. I know they're public meetings, I guess. So we have our onnings that we came back for at the front and you're aware as of they exist now. I also have some photos here, which are just a little bit better than the renderings at this point, but this was also the onnings, a rendering that was created. I think when I brought this oning revision two you to show how the rear would look with what we had initially planned for onings for the rear of the building. As we got into the construction of it, but then also speaking with the tenants and the onings that were installed at the frontage, which are retractable with white frames, not exactly these no side sheds, tip black. So the installation would be a little different of what's here. Is that just given the North facing orientation, the rear of the property, the tenants not requesting it, not thinking it's necessary. And where the existing landscaping is, how it will grow up over the breezeway entry is, we would, we elected and we were requesting not install those onings as submitted at the rear of the property and just wanted to put that to the board and we can go from there. Okay and here's the front as it exists currently with the awnings open there. Doug? That's. All right, so the change would be just to maintain the current silver horizontal pieces instead of the blue awnings. Essentially. Yeah, those silver pieces are lighting. Yeah. awnings essentially yeah those silver pieces are lighting yeah yeah I I prefer the blue awnings I prefer some type of color and character there and it kind of matches the front of the building you know it's it's on the north side so it has no functionality to it really. It's more just a design look. You know, granted it is back in the alley, but you do see that back of the building from, you know, from the parking in the area behind it. I really, I guess I don't have a major concern about it one way or the other, but I just prefer a little bit of color there and the character that the audience provided. But I'm not opposed to it really either way. I don't think. Look. Well, as I looked at this, I think it's a perfect example of what we're working on with the new booklet or the handbook is showing mechanicals on renderings. You know, this is obviously you look at the rendering, there's no mechanicals, everything's beautiful, and then you look at the actual photo, and there's thousands of conduit and transfers, and awful looking things under the balcony. As far as what you've done here, and again, it's being north facing, it's not a sunshade issue, it's a design issue. I actually think that I like the clean design of what is here. It's a bit unfortunate because those onings would have given you some more usable balcony for summertime, not that people might want to be outside in summertime, but design wise, I think it's okay. I think my other issue would be, if you look at the rendering versus all of this equipment and I know it's back of house but and I don't know if it's possible to screen or do something with it. That's more of my concern than the actual onings but as far as onings, no onings, I think you know it's there, it's done and I think it's okay so those those are just my comments, but this is kind of a glaring example of why equipment is shown on renderings is very important to the overall design of a building. But thank you. Shea. I agree with my brother and the difference between the renderings and the reality is quite in the front. Because of the amount of traffic that actually happens, especially sometimes pedestrian traffic getting to and from your cars in the back alley, I'd appreciate it if the owners, especially of a design company, you know, we really be looking at how it looks from the back. Somebody explained to me, when you've got a new property, why do you have temporary cones out and back? Why would there be a need for a cone? I'm not sure why the cone was there on that day. But I don't know if it's there right now. I would be happy to pull it. I think there might have been, you know, there's been a lot of finishes for different whether it was irrigation or just installing the trellis around the dumpster on the left there. So I don't think that cone is still there, but I can check. It's only makes me think that there was somehow we failed the first time around if there's a need for a cone to be permanently sitting there. And believe me, I've seen plenty of cones that I wonder. I saw that the last time there's did you miss something? I don't know why that you know that cone being there. I don't think it's supposed to be permanent or Is because of a something's not protected or wasn't installed there was in a requirement for any Like those concrete posts you see next to it protecting the fire. I don't think that was it's there's not a pending install on the property or anything like that So I believe that cone, at this point, I just don't know what was going on. But we've had to reduce some pavers and things like that in the breezeway with regards to drainage and all that. And just, you know, lots of finish items that are getting off the checklist. So that shouldn't be a permanent home for that home. The breeze way is beautiful. And thank you very much for the loja seating area because I really appreciate it and use it with regularity in the evening. I really appreciate the respite there on the avenue. But the yes, the mechanicals in the back, if there was something that could be done about covering them, that would be great. I'm not stuck on the awnings. It's not the awning itself that I'm looking for. I'm looking for something that would soften now the you know the back of the building if there was some way to make an improvement there. So I'd be happy to switch out an awning for something that could make some sort of difference. I can look into it. We just say where the setbacks are what they are, the buildings pushing these systems. You got gas, electric, all that needs to be accessible. But like a trellis or some sort of screen. Screening. Yeah, that. I see what you're saying. The aesthetics of it versus what we'd seen on the renderings. And that's for us because that's something that we're not addressing. So I'll ask the planning department to make sure that we have drawings that would include where are all these mechanicals going to go and what is it going to look like because it's giving us a false sense of what we're seeing and we're trying to look at the reality here. So between the design review board and the planning department, let's spend some time on sort of cleaning up that what seems to be a spot that we might have missed, a blind spot. And I would just say, you know, renderings are going to be gentle compared to the reality. And the situation. Only that in this situation. Only because the planning department allows it. And in this situation, just to give you the example of the reality of the situation, is that we came before you with a shell building. And then we had a tenant come in with localonial that had phase three significant power requirements above that. So I would think in our initial submittal, it would have been impossible to say that. I think in particular the run that you all don't love is this large L that goes up almost to the second floor. And that might be, I believe, for their cooling systems among other things that just wouldn't have even been available when we generated that rendering. And I would say that when I, the bank of meters below is probably more standard. I'd have to check what the plans call for as far as this run that goes above all the other banks. And I'm thinking That could potentially be an area that at least could be either painted or screened or or something or protected so that it's not quite so it doesn't stand out but This is something where you know, I'm trying to address the awning. I submitted a photo because of the reality. But I know it will be a challenge in creating renderings that really account for all final mechanicals, but obviously mechanicals on rooftops and things like that are required to be screened. So it's something that could be planned for. I agree. And this was a discussion more between board and planning department. You know, you are in compliance. Again, I don't have an issue either with the awning. Thank you. I think my colleagues have stolen some of my thunder on this. When I opened this up, that was the first thing. Awnings, why am I concerned about the awnings? It makes a nice clean background to the building. What popped out is all that mechanical equipment. And the U of the AC units up on the roof that are on screen. And I'm going, how do we let this get by? And it is pretty typical. And as Luke said, we're addressing that in a new handbook that we really need to identify this stuff earlier. Probably if we went through the process as to when you tenant came in and you knew you had to do this, you probably needed to come back to us and say, hey, we got this stuff and we need to figure out how to screen this. And here's a solution for screening it. I don't know how deep that balcony is but I would think you could probably run a screen the width of that center window Above from the underside of the balcony to the ground and just have a open screening that it's painted the color the building And it would paint some of that condo it out white and you probably wouldn't even notice it's there So we're not asking to do that some of that conduit out white and you probably wouldn't even notice it's there. So we're not asking you to do that. Quite frankly, thank you for pointing us to the back of this building because it is making us all aware that is something we're going to need to address in a more fine green way than we have been in the past. So as Chase said, you know, you're in compliance and doing it, you know, but thank you for bringing it to our attention quite frankly. The one thing I would suggest, you may be leaving the awning over the entrance to the breezeway, okay? Because that's kind of a public entry. You got your sign there. I think that that, it's not a sun sunshade maybe it's a little bit of a rainshade if you will coming in but it marks that entry as a public entry and not just a not a niche in the wall. So over the your tenant spaces on the second floor actually I agree I think it's a cleaner and neater without them but I wouldn't lose the one over the breezeway. I think that helps you identify that as a passageway and an entry point. That's all. That's a report. Good morning, Leslie. Don't work for the record. My resume and qualifications are on file with this petition and I've been previously certified as an expert in planning and zoning matters for this board. The request today is for consideration of revision three to final design review petition 21 DRB 11. The petitioner made mention in his initial remarks about this particular project and it's been back Before you on a number of occasions for changes through the course of the construction of this building. And as the board members know, one of the elements we incorporate with the design review process is an inspection. So when the building, when buildings that have come before the design review board are nearing completion or are complete, we require that certification letter from the Landscape Architect, and then we also do an on-site inspection. And when I went out and did the inspection in July of this year, I observed that the awnings on the north facade had not been installed, so that was inconsistent with the plans approved by this board. So I reached out to the contractor and to the property owner and discussed the options that they had, which was to install the plans approved by this board. So I reached out to the contractor and to the property owner and discuss the options that they had, which was to install the onings consistent with the plans, or to bring back a revision before this board to consider the removal or the, in this case, the non-installation of the onings on that north facade. I also noted that when I did that inspection, the same concerns with the mechanical equipment. Mechanical equipment is required to be screened. So we'll circle back with the building department as well, but I don't think it's inappropriate to include a screening element request with this revision. It's a, I think they believe that's appropriate. If you leave the look of it consistent with the color perhaps, the color palette of the existing building, then staff is able to work with the petitioner to get that accomplished rather than coming back before you for something that, that another view of that, we can, we can do that. But that is something that we will, with the code as well as with the overall design of the building. So with that, staff's available for any questions that you may have. I have two possible conditions. In addition to the carryover, the landscape certification letter, which I think you guys have already submitted to us, but I'll verify that. We can keep that one in there and if they've already done it, then that's fine. The other two conditions I heard possibly is that the Petitional Incorporated Screening Element around the ground floor mechanical equipment and number three would be the Navy awning over the Breezeway Entry will remain. So those are the things we have written down. If you're interested to come back, yes, we loved screen this, but I don't think that that I think the petitioner would need to call voluntary to do that. I can't think we could, it's appropriate to make it a condition of what he's asked for. OK. What he's asked for is the elimination of the awnings if we want it. He wants to come back and say, gee, I'm thinking about it. I want to screen it. He can come back with the screen. I don't think that's an appropriate condition to this application. I think we're stretching on that. I don't think you would have heard to just put a comment in to help Matthew is whatever screening can match the building. We don't want him to have to come back to get approval that it matches the paint color of the building. That's silly for him to have to do that. You know, does that make sense? If we just put a comment in a roof screening? No, if the city's requiring him to screen that, that's a city thing, that's a staff thing. I would have to reach out and work with the building department on what, my understanding is that all mechanical equipment must be screened to the full height of the equipment. So if they require that, I would just need to put it in. The equipment on the facade of the building there, that's a little out of my area of expertise. Okay, let's clear it up just for the right thing. We're talking about two different pieces. Sure. The electrical components and electrical equipment on the ground floor on the wall is not what we're talking about. We're saying we would love to have that screen, but my position is it's not part of this application. If he voluntarily wants to screen it, he can come back and tell us. We can't make that a condition. We've pointed out that the roof, the air conditioning units on the roof by code need to be screened, and we've noticed that that's an appropriate ad as a condition. And you're right. The staff has the discretion as long as it matches the building and its color and texture. I don't want him to have to wait two months or whatever it is to say, you know, if I agree with Chair Ruby that we don't need, that doesn't need to, the screening of that doesn't, that's a building department decision with if they tell them you don't need it, then he doesn't need it. If they say you do need it, and so he doesn't have to come before us as long as it's like in the same color. Well you can see the equipment's up there so I think it needs to be screened. Yeah so that those would be the condition. Okay got it and then maybe awning over the breezeway entry is that a condition we would like to do so the onnings on the second floor would be not installed and the awning over the breezy would be correct. Okay. You okay with that? Any other comments or discussion? If not, I'll entertain a resolution. I motion the grant final design review approval for item 21 DRB 11 revision 3 with staff conditions and DRB comments. Second. Go ahead, please. Alternate member Duhon. Yes. Vice Chair Freder Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know that we have the petitioners for C. I think we can get started on this. I just I just send a text asking her ETA. Okay. Is she in the building? She's I believe they're over at the EOC. Okay. And that would be a good place to talk about her. And it's wouldn't it? Turns out. Nice. We want to get started. We can get started on this. Yes. I chance here. So we can to get started on this. Yes. All right, Jim's here. So we can get started. All right. The next item on the agenda, we have moved 7-H, which is 24-DRB34. It's a resolution for the purposes of determining petition 24-DRB34, relating to preliminary design review of a new multi-family development and associated amenities as part of the NAPL's Beach Club redevelopment on property owned by the NAPL's Beach Club Land Trust 1. The NAPL's Beach Club Land Trust 2 in BC Club owner at LLC located at 1090 Creighton Road. A Democratic height and Howard and presenting. Good morning. Good morning. Are you sworn in yet? I did. I sworn in first. Anybody else have a fine other news? I think for the time being, it's just me. Just you. We'll see how questions go. But down here. All right, discosers. I had a how questions go. But down. All right. Just closures. I had a meeting with Mr. McCarthy, reviewed the plans familiar. I too met with Mr. McCarthy and he walked me through what we're going to be seeing this morning. Yep. I'm familiar with the site, reviewed the application, had a conversation with Mr. McCarthy a few days ago, just to kind of run through the presentation and to give me the close notes on what they're doing. So. I'm familiar with the site, reviewed the application, and had a meeting with Mr. McCarthy regarding the presentation and some of the changes they were looking to make. Bill, any of your measures? Excellent. Well, good you miss yours? Excellent. Well, good morning and thank you for your accommodation of the schedule shift in the agenda. I'm very appreciative of that. As you all know, my name is Tim Carthian with partner in managing principal of Hard Haurton, an interdisciplinary design firm with offices in San Francisco as well as New York. I'm a Florida licensed architect. My CV is on file having testified before this board on previous occasions and I'm registered with the Ethics Commission. Nearly six years ago, November of 2018, this board reviewed and approved our preliminary DRB petition 18-DRB 52. For the comprehensive redevelopment of nearly 125 acres of land comprising the Beach Club. Today's petition is being presented for your preliminary reconsideration of the redesigned Phase 2 or otherwise known as Gulfside residential buildings east of Gulfshore Boulevard North. The comprehensive redevelopment vision seen here on screen protects more than 104 acres of open space in old Naples while concentrating development along Gulfshore Boulevard North, complementing the traditional development patterns of the morings and park shore seen here extending into the distance. The city of the city is a city of the city of the city. The city of the city is a city of the city of the city. The city of the city is a city of the city. The city of the city is a city of the city. The city of the city is a city of the city. The city of the city is a city of the city. The city of the city is a to the east and two residential areas in yellow, flanking the Gulf Shore garden that knits together each side of the property. Governing the specifics of that framework is the zoning control document. In the cyan blue in the lower left is the R3T18 zoned land for the hotel and the market square. Its rules and its ordinances are specific to those buildings now under construction. Separately then is the 109-acre planned development or PD, including residential districts that flank Gulf Shore Boulevard plus the recreation and open space district to the east, seen here in Green. As you will see today, the proposed phase two or golf side residences redesign is consistent with the provisions of the PD the planned development ordinance and the zoning ordinances for the yellow-tone portions of the property they're subject of this application. On September 6th of this year city staff issued a letter of sufficiency for today's proposed redesign. On screen is an enlargement of the Gulfside residential district east of Gulfshor Boulevard North. In this map, the Gulf is off screen to the bottom and north is now oriented to the left. This map shows additional open space obligations within the residential district specifically. It highlights the minimum yard setback requirements. Plus, it hatches the conservation easement that restricts development in a portion of this property's open space. The PD also controls the open space and minimum separation requirements between buildings by putting in place maximum allowable building envelopes. And finally, those building envelopes restrict the maximum number of stories that can be built. Residents D in the upper right in green is a maximum of five stories comprising 22 condominiums. Residents F and Tiel Blue at the bottom of the screen, in a location where we are our own neighbor is a maximum seven story building with 26 homes. Residents G in green on the left and cited closer to the multifamily buildings along Gulf Shore and Oliander is limited to five stories and now planned for 18 condos. And lastly, residents H, closest to the single family homes of Cookina Sands and therefore zoned to a maximum of four stories is planned for 17 residential units. All of those stories sit over parking. Because today's hearing is a new preliminary petition, we wanted to illustrate to each of you changes made in the last several years. Additional denies and outdoor space provide better view corridors. The pool and single-story amenity structures were revised within the setbacks and building envelopes and starting at the improved intersection of Gulf Shore Boulevard and O'Lean gardens and pathways were enhanced and pedestrian routes separated from vehicular circulation. Both the old and the new designs adhere to the PDs prescribed building envelopes. And in fact, many of our redesigned buildings increase the separation between buildings. That has the benefit of improving view corridors, allowing for better air circulation and naturally cooling breezes, plus enhancing the privacy and separation between homes. The redesigned garden level has certain components in salmon pink on screen that grew outward toward the rights of way, plus lavender-toned areas that are now farther away in excess of the minimum yard setbacks of the PD. The gross area of the building has been adjusted to incorporate market feedback about in-home condominium sizes and amenities, but much of that growth is seen here at the top of the screen at Building H, where the yellow footprints proposed today have grown inward toward the resident pool garden. Above the garden level, these typical floor plates have a similar philosophy underpinning the redesign. In fact, on net, there is now more lavender area pulling away from the rights of way as compared to salmon pink growing outward. And the same story of gross area is apparent at these typical levels as to where growth has occurred towards the garden. Lastly, at the penthouse level, the PDs requirements for wedding cake massing steps back from the facades below some portions of the penthouse have grown towards the road while others in lavender have carved away. But mathematically the net penthouse gross area is close to neutral. Coverage, a development control assessed specifically within the 109 acres of the PD, excluding the separately-zoned 15 acres of our 3-T18 land comprising the hotel and market square. Remains well below the maximum development standard of 5% coverage. While the coverage ratio has increased from 2018 to present, these calculations on screen show a 4.371 cumulative coverage ratio well below the maximum 5% standard. In summary then, today's redesign keeps all of the 2018 and 2019 approved building heights. Adheres to the maximum number of stories. Works within the approved building envelopes and their separation. Further separates many of the buildings. Utilizes the originally approved curb cuts from the public rights of way. Increases the gross square footage, however less than 10% and mostly inward toward the pool garden. And adjust the coverage ratio, remaining well below the 5% PD maximum. Finally, the phase two redesign changes the floor plate model. From floor through units, seen here on the left, oriented to look towards the Gulf, originally proposed at buildings A and B as an example, and in 2019, the originally contemplated layouts for buildings F and G in this Phase two location. In redesigning the paradigm of how these buildings lay out, they look in all directions. In so doing the exterior style and expression from a frontal building and an A and a B type facade are now uniformly expressed in all directions around the building. It is because the great rooms and primary suites look in all directions that one unit to unit privacy required us to increase the building. It is because the great rooms and primary suites look in all directions that one, unit to unit privacy required us to increase building separation, and two, the yellow cores at the center of the floor plate slightly pushed building facades outward. Hovering then overgulphs for Boulevard looking south phase two peels away from the road, provides lush layered landscape, adjacent to surrounding rights of way, steps down and massing as it approaches the neighbors, and allows the open space of golf to extend into the gardens and pathways that separate each of the residences. With all of those PD rules out of the way, I'd now like to take you all on a little driving and walking tour of Phase 2. The first pathway will begin driving south on Gulf Shore, as seen here in these arrows. Driving south, building F is not parallel to the beachside residences on the right. It has one point of its porch, Lenise, that sit in the same spot as 2019 while the rest of building F's facade's peelback and away from the road. Buildings F and G are buffered by the landscape planted at the improved intersection with Oliander and the turn lanes and planted islands combine with street trees to create the Gulf Shore Garden that I mentioned earlier in the framework plan. Going northbound is a similar celebration of landscape flanking the road and disguising the lower levels of the residences. This view is from one of those Google Street View cameras on top of a car. It looks northward. With beachside residents, sea on the left, the newly proposed Bahama Club that you saw last month during your board meeting further north off site, and building F coming into the view on the right-hand side. That prior view from the previous slide is off to the right-hand side of this image, but what I'd like to now do is turn onto Oliander, seen here on the left and continue driving north. So this image reflects that turn onto Oliander, seen here on the left, and continue driving north. So this image reflects that turn onto Oliander. The city sidewalks are shaded by satin leaf trees installed at 16 feet of height, but growing one to two feet per year. Residents G along Oliander steps down from the seven stories of building F to only five stories here at the intersection with Creighton Road. And as one turns that five story massing of G in the foreground gives way to four stories of H in the distance beyond along Creighton. There is a seldom used curb cut off of Creighton between buildings G and H, plus a convenient pedestrian gate for dog walkers, bikers, and runners. The Creighton road curb cut in the upper left of this map is rarely used because the primary vehicular arrival point remains off of Gulf Shrubullivard. So let's drive that now. Unlike the very public entry of the hotel and market squares respective Port Couchares, the residential entry to Phase Two residences is at a quiet break in the estate-like landscape. The gatehouse is set into the site to allow for sufficient car stacking inbound and outbound. And after the gate house, there is easy access to the garages of F and G to the left, to E off screen to the right and to building D in the distance beyond. Guests and Uber drivers can arrive this lower lower level motor court, allowing people to step out of their cars under cover of the awning above. In the distance, a staircase ascends to design flood elevation, and the main pedestrian pathways that flow into the pool gardens above. So if we were to walk to this location from the hotel or from HBs or from the beachside residencesences we could use the one remaining mid-block pedestrian crossing, aka the coconut connector. In market square the spa and fitness building is seen here on the right and on the left is building E already under construction but in the distance beyond is building D. Between building E on the left and D on the right is a privacy and security gate that controls access to the private residential gardens beyond. But stepping through that gate in the plaza over top of the building D garage below is the front pedestrian door to building D on the right, plus in the distance center of this image the staircase that drops back down to the motor court, we saw a moment to go. Better seen here, having walked through the D&E courtyard, below is the drop-off point for arriving guests who can elect to use the indoor elevator to come up in the corner of building F and arrive here to the garden level. Before then turning and continuing along the pathway holding F and arrive here to the garden level. Before then turning and continuing along the pathway to the pool gate on your right. This pathway seen here has reinforced grass on each side to support a fire truck or ambulance. Should they need to access the site from Creighton Road seen in the distance beyond. But the coconut connector is not the only pedestrian access. You could also leave Building C on the beach and use the pedestrian crossing at the improved intersection with Oliander. That scene here on screen where residential owners and their guests could cross, go offshore, walk through the landscape garden, up to the courtyard between buildings F on the right and G on the left, with parking structure below and the pool gardens immediately ahead. That pathway between F and G would emerge from the left side of this image we saw a second ago, and it is from that spot that people can walk into the pool area. First, they stepped through this gate passing between the pool house on the left and the comfort station on the right, arriving to shady purgolas, extended eaves picking up towels or walking over to the comfort station area. Beyond is an elliptical pool set down below an amphitheater like arrangement of Shea's lounges looking out onto the golf course behind this camera view. Beyond the pool, and before the golf course is a lake area for remote control model boats or fly casting lessons, it's overlooked by building D seen here or backing up onto the first T of the golf course, the four-story building D of typical floor plates capped by the fifth level penthouse above. Rotating one's head to the north, the four-story building H looks across the golf course. And as we have driven and walked through the site plan, we back back up to the practice range T where buildings D, F and H all appear to be one uniform height due to the site plan arrangement of buildings closer to or farther from the golf course. Throughout that visual journey, we have experienced different levels or elevations of grade. The cars and garages stay low like Gulf Shrubullivard, while the pedestrian paths relate to the garden level residences and the pool area cascades down towards the golf tee. But disguised in each of those images and those spot grade elevations are accessible pathways which allow the movement throughout as seen here in orange. When we were together previously this board asked that Phase 1 beachside residences take on a series of details similar to the rest of the project. The shutters and bay windows of the hotel, seen here on screen and currently under construction, inspired the first phase of residences. Similarly, market-squared details on screen provide inspiration for today's redesign of phase two. And of course, the benefit of attending two separate phase one final DRB hearings is that we can embed those DRB lessons along with phase one cost, value, and waterproofing details, to create a Phase 2 Golfside Residences proposal today for your consideration. Now, at this stage in the presentation, having shown you the style and details of Phase 2 and all of the prior images, the combination of architecture, landscape, and site planning, embedded in the application, we can flip through each of these buildings contained in the application. In each instance, the large linoise on the corners of the building consistently reinforce horizontality. The chosen details and materials are consistent from building to building, including building D seen here on screen. So I'm going to simply flip through about five pages for each building and the messages are the same. Whether it is here in the northeast corner of building D or here in the southwest corner of building D, having seen all four facades then each building in today's application highlights a consistent use of materials and illustrates a focus on the pedestrian level front doors that open onto the gardens. Systems such as doors, windows, sliders, and shutters reflect the choices previously approved by this DRB for use at the Phase 1 beach residences. And building F is similar, whether seen here on the golf course side of the previous page or next to the golf short boulevard here. The materials are consistent, entry doors, and awnings that cover pedestrians remain integrated with the design and tied together with previous selections and previous DRB approvals. Building G is no different, whether seen here from one corner with two facades and similarly then from the inside corner overlooking the pool garden. The key plan in the lower right tracks where we are looking as we look at building G and its consistent use of materials as well as both the stair entry as well as the accessible pathway in these two images on the left side of the screen consistent application of systems and they're similar refrain at building H. Seen an all for facades with the corner of the lies, consistent use of materials and details, a focus on pedestrian arrival, whether it's from the ramp or the stairs and providing that celebrated sense of entry. All of those buildings, their details, the zoning code, the massing, the pen house setbacks, and the landscape combined to create a neighborhood environment for 83 condominiums east of Gulf Shore. Within that garden are amenity structures that are detailed with coarse stucco siding brackets and rafter tails and other details similar to other one story structures like the resident's beach house and H.Bs on the Gulf Scene here is the pool house where you can grab your towels or use the toilets And next to it is the comfort station a building with an indoor self-serve area where a refrigerator and freezer drawers are full of ice cream walls are adorned with candy jars and drinks are available to residents and their guests. Beyond that indoor space is a roof that has an outdoor pool table or ping pong table where kids or adults can gather out of the sun for a while all without having to leave the pool area. Down next to the lake is a pavilion where grandkids could learn to tie flies or bait a hook. And the material selections, assemblies and details are consistent with other one-story buildings in the resort. In each instance, the design proposal today incorporates the climatically responsive elements detailed in your DRB handbook. Plus, it integrates the principles of crime prevention through environmental design. This is inclusive of the 24-7 security on site. The City's Code of Ordinances at Section 52-41 cites 14 criteria to be considered by the DRB. Regarding today's petition, those criteria, and the professionals identified at the bottom of the screen, the proposed phase 2 plan for the golf site residences including site plan, design landscape, lighting, and signage contributes to the city as a visually attractive community. The quality of the proposed project is consistent and compatible with the surrounding neighborhood structures and in fact has already proven to increase nearby property values. The proposed projects design color and proportion of building elements, components and materials are appropriate and harmonious with the existing character of the surrounding neighborhood and the broader community. The proposed project uses appropriate building materials consistent with the Naples code of ordinances. The project includes design elements that are of a scale at the ground floor that are consistent with pedestrian use. The proposed project reinforces the existing site characteristics by orienting the condominium layouts to look in multiple directions from golf to golf and relate to landscape and open space. The project appropriately integrates landscape elements into the site plan and building design, reinforcing the character of the immediately surrounding neighborhood and the broader community. The design of the building is appropriate to its function. The project is climatically responsive with its architectural massing, shutter details, solar orientation, and material palette. The primary entrances to all buildings provide direct and convenient access from pedestrian pathways and on-site parking areas. Signage is an integral component to the design of the proposed redevelopment and will be consistent with the code of ordinances The project incorporates a defensible space concept of crime prevention through environmental design Having secured a city staff letter of sufficiency the proposed redevelopment is in conformity with the effective guidelines and standards of all applicable ordinances, plus those adopted pursuant to section 50241. The proposed plan is consistent with the initiatives and priorities of the city of Naples vision. It promotes the city's work plan goal to quote-unquote make Naples the green jewel of Southwest Florida by adding the illustrated lush landscaping between and around the residential buildings and continuing the landscape buffer along Gulfshore Boulevard North, Oliander, and Creighton. It promotes the city's work plan goal to quote, maintain an extraordinary quality of life for residents by generally increasing the previous building separations, improving view corridors from the public right of way to the golf course between each of the residential neighborhoods. I'm available to questions, four questions today, but as a licensed architect in the state of Florida, accepted at the beginning of this testimony as a qualified expert, I would respectfully request your approval of today's phase two preliminary DRB petition. Thank you. Thank you. I think overall the plan that you're showing us here is right in character with the current structures and the current structures and the current development. Obviously, we love the fact that 104 acres is gonna be held in perpetuity as green open space and understand that in order to create that green space for the city, there's gonna be more building and construction closer to the Gulf and along that area. I think that the buildings themselves have nice character, they have great lines and plenty of nice outdoor space and shading for the residents that landscaping in the overall area is going to write in line with with what you would expect in a development like this. There are a couple areas that I have a little concern with. One of them being the access from the residents to Gulf Shore Boulevard, that initial, and obviously you said that that's where the majority of the traffic is going to be going and we have room there to stack up cars going into there. My main concern is coming out of there. Right now when those cars come out, you've got a, basically a giant pedestal right up next to the sidewalk with no view capability for the person pulling out of there right next to that sidewalk. And that's a very high traffic area for bikers and pedestrians. I see everybody pulling up to that area and having to put their nose out right across that sidewalk to be able to even look either way to see if anybody's coming. I see a lot of accidents happening there and I see a lot of people getting hit if we don't pull that back a bit and give those drivers that are pulling out of there more of a view down the sidewalk so they can actually see what's coming. You've got a lot of bikers that come flying up and down there on their road bikes and they're going to get clipped and there's residents walking up and down there with beach chairs and that kind of thing that aren't you're not going to be able to see them as a driver. I think we just on especially on the north side as you're coming out there I think that landscaping and that those you know signage pedestals or whatever they are need to be pulled back a bit at least based on the views that I'm seeing here, to be able to give those drivers, you know, of you coming up and down the sidewalk there. That's just one area of consternation. It's just, you know, when we went through the public right of way permitting process, all of those view corridors were reviewed because of the visibility cones that are required. Yeah. Additionally, the sidewalk, and then there's a planted verge. So unlike 41, for example, that has sidewalk immediately next to the travel way for cars. We have the low planting, and then there's a dedicated bike lane before the vehicular lane. So there's plenty of layers as people slowly inch their way forward in addition to a dedicated right hand turn lane for people coming in who are driving northbound and a dedicated left hand turn lane seen in this image on screen for people heading south where you can pull out a traffic and await and have that visibility before you either drive into the property or as you as you depart given the separation and plan. Yeah and I don't see any problem driving into the property because you're going to be able to see those pedestrians but like the picture that we've got pulled up here now you can see the front bumper of that car and you can see the head just the left of it right up against the sidewalk with no visibility until that until the whole front end of that car gets across the sidewalk. I think that landscaping there needs to be pulled back or cut down to make sure that there's a visibility for those drivers so that they don't come into contact with those pedestrians. It's just that area right there and I understand you that you've looked at that but based on these renderings it doesn't look like that's a capability at all. We can circle back with Alicin and the team at Street St. Stormwater to understand the controls and make sure that we've looked at all of that. Okay yeah I mean what you're showing me here there's no way you'd be able to see anybody until you're the whole front half of your car is across the sidewalk. So I just want to make sure that those pedestrians are safe and that those drivers aren't, you know, having any type of interactions they don't want to have when they're coming out of their residence. It's a balance given the estate landscapes of along Gordon, for example, in Port Royal, which is really inspiring the ways that landscape does come all the way to that transition between privately owned land and publicly owned land. Each one of those homeowners seems to make it work along Gordon. Yeah, well, I know there aren't nearly as many pedestrians walking up and down Gordon down there as there are right next to the beach club here, especially with the coconut connector and folks coming and going up and down there. It's not much. It's one, you know, probably 30 foot by 8 foot swath that needs to be somehow relanscape to make sure that those drivers have a visibility going north. The other question I had was with the lake that's proposed on the east side of the buildings here. Yeah, with the coconut connector going into market square there, it looks like the pedestrians are able to walk up and then walk around on the east side of the lake. Is that so, is that public access up there? It will not be. No, in those hedges that were in the images from the golf course, I may even just have it here. Sorry if you're getting motion sick, I'll just flip to it. But embedded in this hedge here, you can see the security fence just kind of running right to left, separating the golfers from the private residential experiences in those gardens. Okay, because yeah, on the rendering, if you go back to kind of the overhead, it looks like the coconut, oh, yeah, the coconut connector pathway goes right back to kind of the overhead, it looks like the coconut, yeah, the coconut connector pathway goes right up and connects with the golf. It does eventually. So yeah, you would be able to keep going, but where you see that pathway, I'll use the, let's see, David. This pathway that's extending here, Doug is staying outside of that fence. So immediately below where my cursor is now, that's a hedge and that hedge is being used to keep, to disguise the fence. So a golfer is staying on the outside of that versus a resident owner is staying on the inside of that. Okay, with the coconut connector, they can walk right out into the garden. Yeah, you just keep, yeah, you can make your way out here. Yep, exactly. Okay Just like historically you were able to walk right onto the golf course. There's not a so that there is public access onto the golf course pedestrian wise Yeah, I mean ideally it's for golfers right the way that it always has been yeah Yeah, but I can also see people. Oh, I'm gonna go run the golf course because I've got you know I can walk right over there and just start running. There'll be plenty of staff on hand to help manage that. I would think maybe some type of a just a cut off from that coconut connector to veer away from that might be beneficial so you don't have people coming, you know, just tourists coming in and walking the coconut connector and then seeing that visual, they can walk right out towards the the old ballroom existed for decades back to the late 90s without people getting too intertwined in the golf experience. Um and then are you stocking a lake? You've got all the yeah any specific species or we need to run that to ground we're at preliminary DRB stage so the intention is just it's a different experience could introduce the different types of ecology that are people are flying down to Florida to experience here We've got a boardwalk around the perimeter. It is lined this particular lake is lined so we can manage the water level Unlike the balance of the lakes in the golf course, which are all part of the storm water management system I think overall I think it's a great design and I like the way that you've paired it down going towards the residential and peeled it away from the road with opening up those view corridors bigger. So you know overall I think it's great. I just think we need to look at that initial exit front with the vehicles coming out of there just making sure that there's enough line of sight going down the sidewalk. Okay. Thanks. Thanks for your presentation. It's very, very comprehensive and it really answered a lot of questions. I have the advantage for me or maybe Chair Ruby as we were here for the first one as well. And we've been involved with all the others. We've seen the project coming along, which is exciting. We've seen some of these design elements come to life. So it's very, very easy to understand the design elements that you're proposing because we can see them. Yeah, the scaffolding is finally coming off the hotel. Right. Yeah. So I don't have too many comments on, I mean, your presentation answered, you know, pretty much all of my questions. So that's pretty much my only comments. I don't have too many for you. I think that the changes you made are improvements for not only the neighborhood, but for the development itself. So you know, kudos to that. Thank you. Thanks. I guess when we met Jim, one of the things I did point out is a thing that sometimes when you have what appear to be tight restrictions and regulations and limitations on a project, you think that it's going to have for creativity and have for environment. In this case, it really enhanced what you did. I mean, I, you know, fairness, I believe these four buildings are, as buildings in the way they fit into the landscape in the way they function are better than the ones across the street. Even other ones across the street. Having to have a few view, I think this section is probably your most successful of the four sections that you've done on the site. I think this one is the most successful. And it's probably because you learned from the, started with the hotel and you lessons learned, you carried on to the next and the next and the next. And I think this, you're culminating when I think you're best product. Product. Thank you. Moving from that, that little diagram you have with arrows, the C through versus the corners is, I think, very telling. I think that, that party and that change in party, just turn the whole dynamic of this block around the fact that you now. It not only gives the tenants variety in diversity and what their views are, because they don't have the view of the ocean, they have the diversity of viewing the golf course in downtown and the amenity spaces. But it also creates a different architecture. And I think in architecture that's richer, and you solve a lot of the issues with the horizontality. You're right, those balconies wrapping around create the horizontality that you're not getting on the other buildings at times. We had to force that to happen. So I think just the way the party worked has enhanced the building, I enhanced this scale and I'm asking the building. The fact that you're using details and materials and proportions that were traced roll the way back to the hotel and to the other one's story buildings on the campus, make it look like a unified campus, a unified neighborhood without making it look repetitive. So it isn't, you remember stamping these things, but just enough elements that you're carrying into these new buildings that, as you drive through it, you say this is one cohesive development, which is exactly what we wanna see happen. So I think there're all positive attitudes. I do want to go back to a couple of your rendering. I was looking at the window pattern and the difference between the doors and the window pattern. You're using some transoms and some still horizontals that I'd not sure you're carrying them through all the windows. That was what I mean, pick one or two of them. I don't know. What are you doing? Those corner views. Yeah. Okay. I'm assuming those are all sliding doors that I'm seeing here, right? Not necessarily everything. So, as I... Let me just move the cursor around. Here on the exterior edge, for example, as the dining room comes forward, that's Florida ceiling glass, but that's fixed because you step out onto the lini at that inside corner that's. Okay, and the windows just to the right of that have a move into bedrooms and they have shutter like the glovred chevators underneath. Exactly. So like some of the deep, this is building E in the distance. Yeah. Some of these showed C and B where we've got that kind of a a spandural panel metal shutter detail. I guess what what I would suggest and I don't know if it is to have a consistency between windows and doors. I'm glad you're dining room.. You want to have Florida ceiling glass. You don't need that panel. But if you could carry a million line at the same line, data line as that panel across, then it would differentiate window from sliding door. I think that it's a subtlety, but I think that you don't need to put a luvred panel there. But I think just carrying that million line and carrying that data line across all your windows around the building. It would just be just a subtle detail. I understand. I like the way that the penthouse sets back in the deep, deep, overhang moves. That was just the shading shadow that you're going to get on them in the – in just the texture. It's going to get on them and just the texture is very special. Other than that one little comment about the windows, I think this is your crown jewel for the whole project. An old dog can be taught new tricks, so thank you. Staff for point. I'm going to be a little bit good. Good morning for the record. Leslie Delmer with the city and April's playing department. My resume and qualifications are on file with this petition and I've been previously certified as an expert in planning and zoning before this board. Item for each day is preliminary design review petition 24, DRB 34.. I want to make a correction to my staff report. There was a typo on page four under the analysis section which states that they have applied for final design review. This is preliminary. I believe I said that everywhere else. That's one that got past me. My apologies for that typo. This is preliminary design review. Related to a new multi-amily development with associated amenities that's part of the Naples Beach Club redevelopment on the property located at 1090 Crane Road. As Mr. McCarthy mentioned in his initial remarks provided some of the history of the overall design and the background of the redevelopment. And I think they've taken, as he's mentioned, some lessons learned in other portions of the development. The last time this board saw this portion of the project was in 2018. It was in that preliminary petition, or 18, DRB 52. And so as we were working through some of the changes, you know, the idea of bringing this back for a secondary preliminary review was certainly encouraged and they took advantage of that option to bring some of the changes, you know, the idea of bringing this back for a secondary preliminary review was certainly encouraged and they took advantage of that option to bring forward the changes and the design. And as you can see when reviewing the plans, they were quite a few. I wouldn't say major changes, but there certainly is a direction and a development change as the project has progressed. And we anticipate that, especially on large scale projects, you're going to see design development things change as we move through the phases. So the area that we're focusing on is, and it's known as Phase 2, the golf side residences, is mostly concentrated on track to RT1 of the Naples Beach Club Platt, but there are portions that sort of grab from other tracks. And so you'll see on the site plan, or I'm, excuse me, on the staff report on page three, there's a sketch of the description of the area that we're talking about. It's predominantly this track to RT1, but because of the integration of the pedestrian circulation elements and hard-scape connections and design connections, or landscape design connections, there are elements of some of the other tracks incorporated into that. So they provided us a specific sketch and description of the site area, which is provided there in your staff report and also as the documents included. As Mr. McCarthy mentioned, the revisions to the site plan refine the building design and locations within the allowable building envelopes enhancing the project amenities and enriching landscape and hard to design connections. You know, due to those scope changes in the time since preliminary again this was brought back for a secondary preliminary review. Staff and to space there will be a few more, there could be a few more slight changes as the project goes through. Companion petition is the amendment to the site plan, which is scheduled for planning advisory board consideration next month. There's some changes with those shifts in the building envelope and some of those other elements that require City Council review to the site plan. So that there's a companion amendment to the site plan that was approved in 2019 that is pending public hearing. So as that kind of works through, we expect a couple more shifts and changes smaller, more minor things will happen. So there will be some changes we anticipate between this preliminary and the final when that is submitted. The petitioner has provided and just gone through in his presentation materials, the architectural plans, landscape plans, and exhibits and diagrams that compare and contrast from the initial to the proposed today. I want to make a note for the record that the scope of this petition is limited to this track area and the area described on that sketch. And so the approvals and considerations granted to the hotel, market square building E buildings, A, B and C are separate petitions and are not part of this overall review. With that, staff is available for any questions that the board may have. We are recommending just the one condition that the project must secure City Council approval of amendment 6 to site play in 19 SP8 prior to the submittal for design review. I think I heard in your discussion possible two additional conditions. One was that the petitioner shall reconsider the sight lines for a vehicular egress northbound on the Gulfshore Boulevard north with respect to the signage pedestals height of landscape material and other design elements and Cherubi you're gonna have to help me with this one. The third one was the petitioner shall consider consistency in the mullion patterns for the windows and doors or just the windows just the windows. Okay. I was carrying the same data in the line around all the case. Okay. You did mention something that I just want to highlight that this is going to PAB and City Council and potentially there would be some additional revisions being made. I just want to clarify that if those revisions are substantial, if they do change the character of the architecture in any way, shape and form, I would suggest, I can't demand you to come back, but I would suggest you come back and kind of bring us up to date on those before we go into detail construction drawings and get yourself to the point where the previous apple came up to date on those before we go into detail construction drawings and get yourself to the point where the previous Apple as already putting foundations in and we had to having redesign some stuff under two All right and the other discussion If not I will entertain a motion I make a motion to approve the preliminary design review for petition 24-DRB 34 at 1090 Creighton Road with staffed additions. With staff and board conditions. Second. Roll call please. I'll remember you Pond is absent vice chair Frederickson. Yes, member boy. Yes, member McKay is absent chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you To be here for hours A little bit of break and some we want We're going to be going into the afternoon. Are we going to do a lunch break at some point? We will. We'll have lunch provided. But let's take a five or 10 minute now for the clerk. And what time are we to cut? 12, 30 lunch break, 12 lunch break? We'll find out when we retain. Yes. OK. Just want to know how For the other applicants, how many we're going to take before lunch? Probably going to release one maybe two. OK. Thank you. I did have a quick question for the previous petitioner. They have another item on our. The architect does. But it's totally different from our applicant. All right. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you We are back in session. All right next item on the agenda is item 7c. A resolution for the purpose of determining petition 24-drb29 relating to final design review of exterior facade changes on property owned by Neapolitan Enterprises LLC and located at 25513th Avenue South MHK presenting. So I have you been sworn in Mark. I have not. That's a do so. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. From the back corner. We're losing at this point. I told you this morning we're losing at this morning. Doug. No. What? Oh, the closers. I've been to the site review the application. I too have been to the site review the application. Yeah, I know site very well and I review the application. Shade. Been to the site review the application. Good morning Joyce. Thank you. Good morning for the record Mark McLean MHK Architecture. 2-0-5-9-10-Meow-Michero East project I bring before you is One of the joint members of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the board of the We brought you the building highlighted here, which is 255-13th Avenue South. If you recall, we were stripping all the vining off the building because we're going to repaint, which if you've been down there recently, it's all off the building now, and it's this vibrant yellow. But as you recall, we were going to paint the building. This all has its DRB approval, but I'll bring you to the south side that faces 13th. This is the change that we're making today. In the previous application, if we took the left awning that has the pink lily politzer in it and put it over the center, that's what you had previously approved. Lily Politzer simply wants to do lily politzer on the first and fourth awning. Take the one off the center to kind of highlight the door and just put their name over the archway on the door and just put their name over the archway on the door. The other renderings that are in this package just showing you on the west side of the building, the two awnings that you had approved before were saying lily politzer on the awnings and in gold between the two on the building. Again, just showing that west elevation to show the changes to the lily politzer, zoom in on it so you can see we're putting lilyitzer on the oning face itself and then on the building above the archway. We kept this slide in here to show you on the east side of the building the two windows on the left side of your screen are to Lily Pulitzer windows they did not have onings before or are we adding them for this. This is the canvas oning and Lily Pulitzer signage that was approved the last time and we would appreciate your approval for this. Perfect. Jay? First off, I was sad sort of when the IV and the greenery all went down. I was sad when everything happened with the old Naples pub, But now when I see the freshness of it, I like it. I don't have any negative comments on it. I think I would have preferred to have some changes to the balcony fronts to sort of jazz things up a bit. The railings as they stand, I think, are rather plain. And I think it would have added some character to the building, but otherwise, I don't have any issues. Thank you. Look. Good presentation. Thank you. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Tag. I think the signage looks fine. Thank you. From a signage standpoint, I know we've got on one phase, we've got two canopies that have signage and we have signage above the entry door. Does this meet our standards? Is it by the number of signage? Because I know there are a couple of other places on the street that are having some signage issues with more signage than necessary or then meets code. Yes, to answer your question, Chair, yes, we believe it do, but this will be reviewed at building permit. Okay. The way we read it just to help you, Mr. Ruby Ruby is the gold lily pollitzer is the actual sign band of the building and then the Oning faces also allowed to have the name of the brand on it the Oning faces allowed to have name as man and it has to be on that drip It can't on the oning it has to be on the drip So the way we read the code interpreted the code that does meet the guidelines. We do understand we have to permit. And then you have it on each fit and then you have it on the parking lot side too. Same situation. Yes sir. But the gold lilies align on the sign band and then the drip of the awnings align. Oh line. That's allowed by the sign code. Actually taking the awning over the entrance door I think is an improvement because now it marks where the entry is before it just blended it in and didn't know the difference. I think that's an improvement. I think it looks better. That's all I have. Thank you. Staff report. Good morning. Jeff Rammer with the Planning Department. I've been sworn to my credentials are on file. As you've heard, the petitioner is requesting final design review approval for two fairly simple and straightforward facade changes. These are slight alterations to larger plans already approved by this board for this property in June. First, the petitioner proposes to remove a previously approved awning. The awning is located over the center-bed door on the south-facing elevation. They propose to keep the other four onnings to each side of the center doorway. Second, the petitioner proposes new signage on the two outside onnings on the drip as the petitioner has noted and the building itself above the center doorway. You have the schematics in your packet and I tried to show the before and after of the two differences. And of course you've seen it again in the petitioners presentation. 424 letters were mailed to property owners within a thousand feet of the subject property. To date staff has received no public communication related to the request. So that concludes my comments, but of course, I'm available for questions. Okay, I'm bringing it back to the board any further discussion. If not, I'll entertain a motion. All motion to grant final design review approval for item 24-DRB 29. Was there any staff conditions? With staff conditions? There were not. Okay. Second. Do I hear a second? Second. Okay. Second. Do I hear a second? Second. Roll call please. I'll send members to come. Yes. My share for you. Yes. Member Hoy. Yes. Member McKay is absent. Chair review. Yes. Thank you. Thank you Mark. This next one might be just as difficult. All right next item on the agenda is 7D 24-DRB 30 resolution for the purposes of determining petition 24-DRB 30 relating to final design review of exterior facade changes on property owned by Francis J. Hager Jr. and located at 990 First Avenue south MHK presenting once again. You can sworn in. Yes sir. Doug, disclosures. I better the site review the application. I do have been to the site review the application. In the site review the application. Shall I review the application? Thank you again for the record Mark McLean, MHK Architecture, 2059, Timing and Metro East. The project I bring before you, what makes us happy about projects like this is we're far enough into the DRB process that our clients are coming back saying, hey, we need to take this to DRB. If you've looked at it, I'll kind of go through it. It's 9.91 Avenue South, the building's on the south side of First Avenue facing north. From highlighted there, parking on a ground level, Daltow is on the ground floor. If you look at the existing building, it was painted gray screen. Was the previously approved DRB color from seven or eight years ago, this was built by our good friend Adam Smith when he bought it and renovated it and turned it into office spaces. Mr. Hager has recently purchased it and just thought the building it's due for a painting and he wanted to repaint it. So he's going to use Sherwin Williams Ice Cube which is just a shade lighter and then the upper band he's going to do a Sherwin Williams pure white. He just wants the light in the building up a little bit, things it's just a little too heavy in the grays that it currently is. The lower darker gray band that's in there, it's an aluminum, like it's not a lukobon, it's like a brake metal band, so I didn't want to get into painting that aluminum. cube has a little bit of a tone of gray in it. So the building just gradiated a little bit lighter than it currently is. I'm available for questions if you have any input on the color change. James? Nope. Design improvement in my opinion. Thank you. I think it's an improvement. I like it. Improvement? I like the colors thank you questions it up I have no issues staff report good morning again Jeff Ramworth the Planning Department I've been sworn in my credentials are on file as you've heard the petitioners requesting final design review approval to paint the exterior of a commercial building with the new color scheme the proposed scheme includes two shades of Sherman Williams paint. The main building will be painted with a cool white ice cube with blue and gray undertones. The upper trim will be painted highly reflective pure white. 822 letters were mailed to property owners within a thousand feet of the subject property. Today staff has received no public communication related to the request. Again pretty straightforward but I'm available for questions if there are any. Thank you. I do want to comment on your client and your owner coming back and making the decision to come back to us on this. Even though it was fairly simple, it could have been difficult to. So, I just want to call them out saying thank you very much. This is the way the process should work and we would much rather review it before we have to give forgiveness. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. second. Welcome, please. Also, Member Declan. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. All right. That takes us to 7E, which is 24-DDRB 31 resolution for the purposes of determining petition 24-DRB 31 relating to final design review of exterior facade changes on a property owned by Naples Bay Properties LLC and located at 1500 Fifth Avenue. Once again, MHK presenting. Disclosures, Luke. I have been to the site and reviewed the application. I've been to the site and reviewed the application. Shane. Review the site and review the application. Been to the site and reviewed the application. podium is yours. Good morning for the record Mark McLean, MHK Architecture 2059, Timi M. Troll East. This project is the old bone fish girl in Naples Bay Resort. It's a preliminary DRB and we've rolled this application because it's outdoor dining and has to go in front of Council. So we've kind of rolled it all in to give you an overall picture of what we're doing, what we're going for, how we're going after. No, you're seeing this as preliminary? Well, at least this final panel. Okay, so we did staff that allowed me to do it to find. Okay, so the plan says preliminary, I'm sorry, that's why I introduced it as preliminary. So it's great, we can go final with it. There was a little bit of a question going in because it's not the Fifth Avalue Overlay So it has to go. It has to go for you. I'll do it. We do have to go out to our dining. But the whole package is here. It's at 1,500th Avenue South, suite A2-112 is to propose design for select architectural ornamentation, some of you nice elements. The new restaurant coming to town is Blackbird, modern Asian. If you want to Google that and look at it, they're over on the East Coast and Jupiter. It's an amazing atmosphere. We're really excited about bringing them to Naples. We're putting a mural on the building. We're adding some Asian inspired sculpture, a little bit of themed entryway to the outdoor dining spaces. Like I said, it was previously in the bonefish grill and they just never came back after Ian. It got flooded, joined Ian. They've gutted it. So we've gone ahead and brought it all back together. We have our building permit and construction is underway. I don't know when if you visit the site when you were there, they just started last week. So we're getting underway with that. So a lot of this is just the exterior skin and façade. So from this area site plan, you can see the overall, it is on the southeast corner, right on the roundabout where the drop off is for the valet that exists at Naples Bay Resort. We're not adding any valet or any parking. We're not adding any square footage or any outdoor dining. We're taking over the existing outdoor dining. It was there. We're using the same number of tables and chairs that was all previously approved. We're putting them in a different layout and a different configuration, but the shaded area shows the area of work in question today. Walk in the front door over here where we have the letters, hand going here. Over here we got the letters. That's the front door that comes in. There'll be a lounge inside, restaurant inside the existing kitchen space is staying the same, small private dining in the back restrooms everything staying the same. The corridor that passes through the resort was the existing outdoor dining we're keeping it exactly how it was before. As labeled you'll see on the side of the building A is a mural that we've done. B is the artwork that we're bringing in. C is the existing awning. So the existing awning frame got destroyed in E in but the frame remained intact. It just ripped the awning off. So we're just re-s canvassing that awning. D is D are the two new light fixtures which are in my package and E is an outdoor dining entry at both ends that we have a sculptured keyway entrance for. This is a life safety plan that was required for outdoor dining for the fire department. They've deemed it complete. A reflected ceiling plan. So you can see we're doing a umbrella fabric. Weaved to get a little bit of that Asian influence through that corridor. Have some nice basket hanging light fixtures and we have some ceiling fans within the space itself. So this is the mural that's painted on the side of the building. My project architect, Kelly Del Hagan, is here. And to her credit, the original one that came in went from the rotunda to the floor to the corner and wrapped the corner and all the way up the building and it was redder than red and she said yeah that'll never fly and they've really timed it down a little bit for us to really bring it into check with something. We think it's pretty inspiring as you're driving in just to the left of this you can see the existing planters there with a palm in it. We're gonna leave the palms in it, but we're gonna put some bamboo in it to kind of start getting that flare of that Asian flare going into it. So you can see from this rendering, this is now on the inside. We're not wrapping the corner with any of that mural that we're putting on the building. We've got some bamboo on the side here. We've got the inspired artwork in here, here which is a six-foot tall boot ahead. It's pretty impressive. It's all bronze. This is the the the onnings are just being re-installed where they were pre-storm. These are the two new coach lights that we're putting on the building and then this is the keyway. Inside the building we have a pretty cool keyway that comes all the way down and creates a real modern or real Asian keyway but just from a life safety, we didn't want to bring it all the way around here We just wanted to carry the theme from the inside to the out and vice versa. So that kind of sets off the outdoor dining There is the the keyhole Dimensions and design. There's the Buddha head and the light fixture. We are not painting any of the building. We're Keeping it the original colors with the exception of the mural. There are the chairs and the tables that we're using. This is the bench that we're using for the bankette built-ins. It's not curved like this. ours will be straight. But with that, we are here for your approval. Doug? I really enjoy the linen, sunbredla shading over that. I think it's a really nice touch. I think it'll give that outdoor space a really nice feel and allow the patrons to enjoy that space. Yes, sir. The mural, I definitely appreciate bringing that down. I like the mural, but I think that if you'd gone bigger, it would have been a bit of an issue. But not overall, I think it's a very nice look. Thank you. Yeah. I'm not sure about the mural, but I like the color. And I like that you guys probably toned it down because I think if it was, it was on the world. It really ties into the interior architecture. So a lot of reds and a lot of vibrant colors. It's got a low lit, but a lot of vibrant reds, it's a really, really, it's gonna be a really, really special place. It'll really tie in, probably should have had a couple of those interiors in my presentation. But. So that's it, yeah, it looks good to me. There's not, actually there's not a ton of design changes on the exterior. To the building we haven't touched the building itself. It'll be nice to have a restaurant back in there. Thank you. Well, and we didn't put signage in. I probably should have included this in my presentation. We didn't put signage in here because we're replacing it exactly where the bonefish signs were. It's just going to say Blackbird, not Bonefish. And we're keeping it pretty simple. We've for staff's consideration, we found the resolution and emailed it to you yesterday. So they may not even have the resolution yet. We couldn't find it for a couple of weeks, but we found it. Okay, we lost Shagin. Yeah, looks good. Murrow, I think, I think toning it down just being in the base, but look at it. It's very Mexican. It's a gig over a barrel looking. It's very Mexican, it's a gig over a barrel looking. It's pretty fun. It's pretty fun. They really went after it the first time, and we had to say this is Naples. This is a mold. It really is. It's restrained and it's very nice. It's at the high level when you drive in. I think it's refreshing to see. You'll see the butterflies from over on 41, but this portion down here I think if you're traveling east to west across the bridge on 41 you might catch a glimpse of the color But you don't see it until you're in the parking lot you have to be clear into the and coming around this round about nice surprise when you get in yes, sir And I do think the the ceiling that you're putting in is very very cool Thank you kind of cool idea. I have no no other comments that I don't think you're doing anything to the building that I'll do that enhancing it and then as I said it's great to have a restaurant back there again. Yes sir, we're excited about it. Staff report. Three quick ones. Good morning again, Jeff Bramer with the Planning Department. I've been sworn in my credentials are on file. Petitioners requesting final design review approval for a couple of changes. One to the site and a couple to the exterior of the existing building. Purpose to these changes are to enhance the aesthetics and customer experience for a new restaurant in the Naples Bay resort and marina. The first change is the floor of platter, Mural, to be painted on the east elevation of the existing building. Elevation faces perpendicular to 41. It's probably most visible as the petitioner noted from the right of way to pass or by traffic, heading west, northwest into Naples. Second element will really only be visible to the restaurant and resort customers. It's a six-foot brass boot-ahead sculpture on a cement platform. It will be located next to the main entrance to the restaurant, which faces to the southwest or the rear of the property. 723 letters were mailed to property owners within a thousand feet. To date staff has received no public communication related to their request. I'm available for questions, but otherwise thank you. Okay, I'll bring it back. Any comments? I make a motion to approve petition 24, DRB 31 for final design review at 1500th Avenue South. I hear a second. Second. Roll call please. Alternate member DuPont, absent. Vice Chair Fredrickson. Yes. Member Boy. Yes. Member Rick Hague is absent. Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be back. Next item on the agenda is 7F 24-DRB 32 resolution determining final design review, petition 24-drb32 relating to a new two story clubhouse with recreational amenities and parking and a property located at 2900 Gordon Drive, Hart Howardton presenting and you've been sworn in to him. I hope that's sworn in. Okay. Disclosures. I've been in the site review the application. I've been in the site review the application and had a brief conversation with Mr. McCarthy a few days ago just again running through the presentation and just giving me an overall view of what he was gonna present. I had a discussion with him as well. I think we all did. Yeah, I'm going to decide. We viewed the application and had to sit down with Mr. McCoy-Thie as well. That being said, podium is yours, Tim. Excellent. As you all know, my name is Tim McCarthy, and partner manager, principal of Hart-Hawerton, interdisciplinary design firm with offices in San Francisco in New York. I'm a floor to registered architect, my CV's on file with this petition, and I'm registered with the Ethics Commission. With all of that out of the way, I have the privilege of presenting to you today's final DRB petition, comprising our new vision for the Port Royal Club, a facility destroyed by Hurricane Ian almost two years ago, but previously comprising a clubhouse with food and beverage facilities, banquet and functionaries pool and beach access. The founder of Port Royal, Glenn Sample, recognized the need for a community gathering place as far back as 1959. Hiring architect John Volk from Palm Beach, the original clubhouse seen here in the upper right, allowed residents a place to come and gather. Over the subsequent 65 years, the club both evolved, relocating tennis to the east side of Gordon Drive, compared to these images, and at the same time remained the same, allowing beachfront dining to instill a sense of collegiality, while supporting the neighbourhoods enduring sense of community. But on September 28th, 2022, Hurricane Ian made landfall, the original clubhouse, including its numerous renovations from the 60 plus years prior took the brunt of the storm. Excuse me, by December 16th of 2022, City staff rendered a substantial damage determination that required the club to demolish then rebuild its iconic beachfront clubhouse. On receipt of the city's determination letter, the club's journey to rebuild began. A journey dedicated to preserving the community's cohesion while anticipating the needs of the next 65 years. Early actions taken by the club included a detailed survey being sent to all club members seeking their input and their guidance. The survey was administered by a third party and its results helped to define and quantify a program, a list of the clubs various wants. Those survey results informed our last 20 months of meetings, meeting every week, and the results of those meetings led the clubs, building and finance committees to prioritize Gulffront dining, quantified the number of members who are turned away from dining due to capacity constraints in the old clubhouse, and characterized the pool as a beachfront lap pool. The club's communication committee increased the frequency of its status updates, including an all-member meeting 16 months ago, which I led. The issuance of preliminary sketches in July of 2023, soliciting feedback from all members. Subsequent August 2023 meetings with the Building Committee to improve the design in response to member comments. October, live and recorded meetings to present a revised design to all members. A December 2023 all-member vote that received an overwhelming 93% vote of approval to proceed based on our preliminary DRB drawings from November of last year. And then in May of this year, an all-member project update before people left for the summer season. The club's extensive outreach to and engagement with the community and its club members resulted in the acceptance of the design by the surrounding residential community as compatible and consistent with Port Royals character. As I mentioned a moment ago along this journey the city has also been involved. The clubhouse design was presented to you all in November and in addition to the unanimous preliminary approval by you all, the design received administrative site plan approval from all city departments before receiving unanimous approval from the PAB in May. That took us to June and August of the summer hearings with the City Council. And it was just last month then that our petition for conditional use was approved. Additionally, we received approval of offense and wall waiver plus approval for outdoor dining. Let's turn then to today's matter and your review of Final DRB petition. The Port Royal Club occupies just over 11 acres, flanking each side of Gordon Drive as shown here on screen. Together, the parcels collectively function as one private club. The Port Royal's distinctive character and culture began on the beach, as seen here from this satellite image taken before the storm. And so we will turn our attention to approximately five acres of land west of Gordon Drive. For purposes of orientation, this satellite image was taken before Hurricane Ian and illustrates the beachfront clubhouse building on the west side of the site with significant surface parking on the east of the parcel. Prior to its demolition that occurred over this past summer, at the building's north boundary to a previous 10.63 side yard setback at the building's old south facade. The net 356.44 foot long facade did not centralize club activities but rather its rambling combination of uses stretches nearly the full club frontage along the Gulf sands. The city staff's sufficiency letter and the city council's conditional use approvals did not require any change in zoning or land use. Therefore, the parcels continued use as a beach club in the PS zoning district is appropriate in its proposed location. The clubhouse design, approved by city staff and the sufficiency letter accommodates all required yards and yard related setbacks seen here on screen and red. This includes 50 feet at the two front yards facing Gordon and the golf as well as 15 feet at the two side yards where the adjacent R zoning criteria setbacks established the PS.S. setbacks. In fact, in addition to the 15 foot side yard setback requirement at the South boundary, the clubs building committee elected to voluntarily shift the proposed building an additional 65 feet north, setting the building South facade 80 feet north of the South property boundary. In addition to the last 20 months of sound financial planning and the inherent economic resiliency found through right sizing the clubhouse, the club also outlined for our design team the physical or storm resiliency expectations for the next 65 years. As seen on screen the solid orange line running from top to bottom the state DEP will be involved through its coastal construction control line program, setting out certain technical on screen at the solid orange line running from top to bottom, the state DEP will be involved through its Coastal Construction Control Line program, setting out certain technical criteria for design. In addition to state level criteria associated with the control line program FEMA is also involved in this property. Febraries newly adopted 2024 flood insurance rate maps describe a portion of the site west or seaworth of the blue squiggly line as a v-zone or coastal high hazard area and to the right or landward of that line a non-coastal a-rated zone. Respecting both state and federal data sets the club therefore asked us in our design to pull back to avoid construction in the V or coastal high hazard area and propose a building in the designated A zone seen here in blue on screen. A zone that is pulled back some 70 to 80 feet landward or east of the building's old location seen here in the comparison to the satellite photo underlay on screen. But resiliency planning did not stop at horizontal relocation. It also included vertical solutions that pushed certain uses upward in accordance with the Florida Building Code and its reference standards. Starting at the bottom of the screen, Gordon Drive is around elevation 3 to 3.5 along the properties frontage. And the beach after the county finishes the reneurishment work this autumn will result in a top of sand elevation around six. Sitting in Washington, DC, FEMA's macro level data suggests from afar that our A-Zone designation is to be set vertically at nine, which for many of our proposed building uses sets finish floors at 10. However, due to the solid orange line seen on the map earlier designated FDP jurisdiction under the control line program, we then worked with Brett Moore and his team to conduct a site-specific wave crest analysis. The 100-year storm elevation referenced in the building code that resulted from the humiston and Moore's modeling seen here in the upper left thumbnail sets the underside of building structure at 17.1 and because that elevation becomes the underside or lowest horizontal structural member we add 18 inches to remain consistent with the city's code of ordinances and allow for slab thicknesses and pipes. Thus establishing a control line design flood elevation of 18.6 NABD for our permanent commercial kitchen, our electrical rooms and our generator. The end result is spaces with significant gas or electrical demands, as well as utility connections being about 12.6 feet higher than the old clubhouse on this site. During the site plan review process, we worked through these details with the city's floodplain coordinator, the building official and the planning department. Resiliency planning and its maintenance of an extraordinary quality of life for the clubhouse occupants has not been restricted to just horizontal and vertical relocation. location. It also anticipates piled foundations, inclusion of breakaway walls below the wave crest elevation and missile-impact-graded glazing. Through the Fish and Wildlife Commission FDEP will also require the project to tint our exterior glass, reducing heat loads while lighting the exterior of the project, using full cut-off fixtures, amber-colored turtle-friendly lighting that meets but does not exceed coat minimum light levels. Which finally brings me to Port Royal Club's proposed clubhouse on the beach. While the club has designed and its site plan been prepared by qualified professionals and approved by staff, we want to now acquaint you with the design itself, putting some meat on the dry bones of those preceding slides. Driving south along Gordon, we presented a previous version of this image to you last year and described in a state-like landscape along the public right of way. A composition of layered planting that enhances Naples' stature as the green jewel of Southwest Florida. Since that hearing with you, we have added the pedestrian crossing scene here in this illustration, including its safety signage and its lights. At the intersection of Gordon and Kingston, the club's existing curb cuts, signage and landscape columns will be used again, maintaining existing traffic flow and overall convenience for neighborhood residents. The reuse of current vehicular ingress and egress will allow service vehicles to enter the property and conduct their business inside the property's north boundary. Nucents impacts will be minimized by the construction of a 15 and a half foot tall site wall, surrounding the service yard. On screen is an overall plan of the proposed club, main level at elevation 15. For purposes of orientation, each plan that we review now, we'll have Gordon drive at elevation three to three and a half on the right side, plus the Gulf, with sand levels around six on the left. The solid orange line of the control line is shown here and the undulating blue of the A-zone seward boundary is illustrated closer to the beach west of our building. As one leaves Gordon at elevation 3.1 and ascends to the covered point of arrival at elevation 15, the gracious arc of the entry drive provides enough length for cars to go up to the front door. And on the south side of that driveway, a pedestrian sidewalk also ascends as a sloped walk at less than 5% gradient, safely leading and excessively to the front door. Using sand excavated for new auger pile foundations and proposed pool. Phil, governed by the control line program, will disguise the change in grade, eliminate the historic club's front stairs and allow for a seamless arrival from car to dining room. An arriving member or their guest can hand over their keys to the evening ballet team member and see through the building to the Gulf waters beyond. The historic clubhouse was closer to the Gulf than the proposed building's new resilient relationship to the water. As such, an infinity edge fountain, Grete's members reminds them of the old proximity to the waves and once again visually connects water to water from the moment of arrival. South of the entry point in Breezeway is a club receptionist at number two on screen with a new living room in coffee bar at number three. Historically the community has not had a morning location to gather but this design anticipates ways of further enhancing community cohesion throughout the day. At number four is the sunset bar, which can be enclosed by sliding doors, and to its right, a fully enclosed commercial kitchen at number five. The club's primary electrical and low voltage rooms are located at number six, both elevated above the 100-year storm elevation. North of the entry point in Breesway is a different food and beverage concept, a family casual dining venue with indoor dining at numbers seven and nine, plus a covered porch at number 17. Unlike the previous clubhouse, each dining room in this new building will have outdoor dining spaces that are covered by porches and hard roofs, not just fabric umbrellas. Space 11 is the commercial kitchen that serves this restaurant. And that same kitchen serves our function area at the north of the project, a spot that can welcome arriving guests and members directly from the North arrival garden at number 14 or the pre-function space inside at number 13. All of those arrivals could occur without impacting the main point of arrival at number one, discussed a moment ago. Off-street parking is adequate and well designed since it relates well in terms of proximity and access to various club uses. This includes an elevated parking deck seen here at the top of the screen, plus a surface lot in the southeast of the site, larger than the existing lot on site today, but otherwise mimicking the existing surface lot by providing easy, on-grade access to the pool with the beach beyond. As you come through the breezeway in that moment of arrival and get to the other side of the Infinity Edge fountain, you can look north and see the family casual restaurant and its porch extended northward with landscape and terracing, disguising the grade change from the beach level to the first level of dining. The matredee for the Ola carte restaurant upstairs resides immediately above the breezeway at the center of the club. One location on the club's Gulf Facing facade that includes traditional white picket guardrails to reinforce the history, tradition, and longevity of the club. Onscreen is the upper level floor plan, including a dining room at number one, private dining rooms at numbers two and three, and an after dinner lounge at number seven. Earlier, I mentioned both economic as well as storm resiliency considerations. At spaces 11 and 12, I also want to highlight the importance the club has placed on the resiliency of its people, of its staff. Unlike some other traditions of club programming, where employee spaces might be shoved into a basement, the break room at Port Royal is placed on this upper level. It's part of the plan, excuse me, the club's plan to attract, recruit, and retain the best talent in the business. In this view, from the North Event lawn, looking back to the fountain and the distance on the right, you can see the Ola-Cart restaurant dining porches up above, the family casual dining rooms and the terraces and plantings that utilize the new found 70 or 80 feet of beach front land that disguises the dining levels raised higher due to resiliency planning. Which of course means there's an undercarriage of spaces below the elevated dining room. On screen is a plan of that lower level, including some car and bike parking along the top of the screen located at about elevation 3.5, fractionally above Gordon Drive at 3.1, as well as the open-air service yard in the upper right at number 16. As mentioned earlier, the service yard is surrounded by a solid block wall that will contain noise, dust, and fumes related to service. It's fully screened by both that site wall and landscape. The loading dock area provides space for provisioning the club or as coordinated with the city's solid waste department during administrative site plan review removing trash and recycling. In the lower right is the surface parking lot described previously. Member lockers for pool users at number five and a casual pool bar at number two. The pool bar area sits down at elevation 4.5. The undercraft nature of this outdoor room below the sunset bar, in combination with the South Sideyard site wall, approved through our fence and wall waiver, below the sunset bar. In combination with the South Sideyard Site wall, approved through our fence and wall waiver, adds in, excuse me, aids in the management of potential noise. At elevation six, the pool is 18 inches higher than the bars elevation, but the same as the anticipated sand level after the county's beach renearishment concludes. Above the Poole Bar are the enclosed sunset bar as well as the West Indies inspired louvers of the enclosed after dinner lounge up top. In summary, the improvements proposed under the application promote the City of Naples vision plan Corgold to preserve the town's distinctive character and culture. Specifically in Port Royal that means a West Indies inspired clubhouse roof plan and roof wells that disguise the presence of mechanical equipment. Looking at the proposed design from Gordon Drive, landscape obscures the service yard on the right-hand side, as well as separates the surface parking lot on the left-hand side. As we rotate to the north, we utilize the 15-foot side yard setback to provide ample landscape as well as buffer the presence on the right-hand side of the elevated banquet facility and the parking area. On the far left is the loading dock, inclusive of the generator concealed by the roofed pavilion, as well as the cooling towers associated with the air conditioning system. As we rotate to the south side, we will revisit the particulars of this yard setback and its landscape in just a moment. But ample layered vegetation conceals the required 11 foot tall site wall that is part of the conditional use and fence and wall waivers approved by council. And lastly, rotating out to the Gulf side is balancing the presence of landscape with the opportunity to provide views for each of the club members dining and looking west. Details continued to borrow from west indies traditions, whether it's the masonry of the lower level, the timber expression, detailed through the use of concrete and stucco, and the two-pitch roof. We looked at a previous version of that same drawing, drawn by hand a year ago, and through the course of time we've been able to detail out the construction and technical systems that continue to protect and preserve that aesthetic. This enlargement shows the incorporation of climatically responsive systems that preserve the detail, the roof pitch, the rafter tails, but also integrate insect screens as well as hurricane shutters that coil just inside of the concrete beam that holds the roof. The Stucco ceiling helps to provide a location for, excuse me, for fire sprinkler pipes, as well as radiant heat, and the back boxes associated with ceiling vans. The materials on the Landward facade include aluminum fixed windows and storefront systems shown here in the bronze finish, white stuckle walls, rafter tails made of PVC details painted white, as well as the addition of louver details and brackets tied into the illustrated gray materials. The roof is a concrete roof tile of slate look and the details on the ocean facing side include similar consistent application of stucco and PVC details, roof materials as well as at that central location above the breezeway, traditional railings complemented by stainless steel cable rails that disappear from view for our members looking out to the Gulf. On-screen is a Disney version of color coding the various application of different materials, inclusive of a strong base, middle, and top. At the lower level base is an application of tabby as seen in the image at the bottom of the screen. So in the red locations we have the application of shell content into the stucco finish. In the location of blue we have a flat stucco painted and finished white, as well as then a location at the alacard dining as well as at the staff and electrical wings shown in the image here, where we're able to provide Claver's Siding Look, Stucco. So as we rotate around and we look at the other two facades, we can see each of those in their expression, both the flat Stucco that forms the backdrop behind the landscape planting at the front door and Port Coucher, to those locations where the kitchens come forward closer to the pedestrians who might be walking from their car parking area on the garage across to the front door. The parking structure is a pre-cast concrete structure and therefore it is painted white consistent with the stucco finish. Well I'll now turn over the presentation to our landscape architect. I will return after this to summarize our application. Pat. Excuse me, Pat have you been sworn in yet? I have been sworn in, yes. I was here for the Naples Beach Club. Okay. Good afternoon. It's 12.01 right now. So it's good to see everybody. My name is Pat Treffs. I'm a landscape architect and owner of outside productions. We're a landscape architecture firm located here in Naples at 5'6'4'4' to Villa Circle. I will apologize for my voice. I'm just getting over a cold. So well, if you'll bear with me. I appreciate it. If I say anything wacky, it's all the cold medicine I have running through me. So anyways, thank you for this opportunity to meet with you today. I'm going to go over handful of slides, starting with tree and palm locations for the overall site, then looking at shrubs, ground covers, and then finishing with the paving designed for the club. In regards to our planting concept for the club, I'd like to point out that our office found inspiration for the club planting not only in all the residential work we've done in Port Royal over the years, but also we're inspired by the wonderful beachfront breakers resort in Palm Beach. I'm gonna start with the first slide. This is our overall tree and palm slide. Starting in the top right-hand corner of the slide, the northeast parking area is buffered in a layered fashion. Much like the buffer are from designed for Moring's Park at Estuary on airport road. It's near the flyover or the overpass of Golden Gate at the estuary. The buffer is backed with 10 foot to 12 foot fishtail palms located 10 feet on center. Over top of the fishtail palms are 18 foot to 20 foot regenerated cabbage palms. They're located 6 to 8 feet on center. In front of the palms are 14 foot cal fileum trees. and the green wall of the slide starts with flanking groups of 18-foot clear trunk silvestre palms, under planted with 8-foot to 10-foot, multi-tronked legustrum trees, and 6-foot pygmy date palms, creating a tropical combination of pome and broadleaf texture. The south parking area to the bottom right of the slide. It's comprised of 14-foot tall gumbo limbo trees, native trees that are native to the keys. Otherwise known as a tourist tree, known for their kind of peeling and red bark, which is very attractive aspect of the tree. Combined with the gumbo limbo in the parking lot, our rows of 16-foot Alexander's identifying a safe walkway through the parking area. The south buffer to the bottom of the screen, much like the layered garage buffer that I just mentioned at the parking garage as well as our buffer on airport road, at the highest level of this buffer are 35- coconut palms under planted with 19 foot to 23 foot regenerated cabbage palms located those palms are also located six to eight feet on center The cabbage palms are then fronted with 14 foot calophile entries also similarly spaced at six to eight feet on center The plantings in this buffer are consistent from east to west, except for when we get past the 11 foot wall, we drop the coconut palms out of the buffer when we get more towards the ground parking towards the east side of the south buffer. The north property line to the top of the screen is a little more natural in its design, a little more of a native floor to feel to it. On the north side we have masses and rows of cabbage palms, 14 to 18 feet overall height, planted a six to eight feet on center combined with 12 foot native secret trees, terminating at the west with large coconut palms near the beach. Circling back to the center of the slide, at the entry drive, we start with 14 foot gumball limbo's and 18 foot sluvesters, which I had mentioned a minute ago, then we transition to the ramp area or the area that slopes up towards the club. At the ramp area to our right as you're visiting the club, we buffer, we're buffering the garage with 10 foot fish tailpoms against the garage, those are fronted with more califile and with more califial palm trees at 14 feet. On top of the califial palm trees right next to the curve are 16 foot Alexander palms. They're spaced quite tightly as they kind of march up towards the main entry. These Alexander palms march up towards the entry and screen the club, but they also create kind of an overhead effect for the visitors that are coming to the club. And then one thing that I kind of like is the shade and shadow pattern that they create on the ground planar on the paving. Just adding to the tropical nature of the landscape in the club itself. The same design, if we're going up that entrance ramp on the right hand side that I mentioned, the left hand side is the same design, if we're going up the entrance ramp on the right hand side that I mentioned, the left hand side is the same design except for we drop the fishtail palms, we don't need those for screening. So we just have our Alexander palms and then our calif Island trees on the left hand side. As we come up the drive, we terminate in the roundabout area with the 22 to 24 foot gumball limbo on the right hand side and then a 30 foot specimen, Ficus tree in the center island. The ficus tree is not only the pinnacle for kind of the landscape as you work your way up towards the front doors of the club, but it also affords us a nice kind of microclimate underneath the ficus tree for some shade loving plants, which I'll speak to in a few minutes. In the pool area, the bottom left-hand side of the slide, we have a circular private sort of shade garden with gumbo limbo trees. You can see the circular deck to the right-hand side and the gumbo on all four corners. And then as we move towards the pool area, anchoring the four corners of the pool area, our large coconut palms. As we move to the back of the club, we have more coconut palms on the beach side. The coconut palms are size at a height where the views they are afforded through looking underneath the canopies of the coconut palms. But the coconut palm canopies also help scale the building and also break up the roof line from the beach. We have other trees and palms in this area that we actually look over. Those are the 14 foot Christmas palms, as well as some 10 foot character C grape trees. Like the really nice multi-troned character C grape trees that will give the back of a club of feel like it's been there for a while. I'd also like to just mention regarding the last part of the slide is there are several coconut palms along the beach. You can see kind of sprinkled out in the sand on our graphic. Those are all planned to remain and further help kind of scale and buffer the club. This is kind of our plant images, our plant image board, representing all the plants that we're proposing for the club. The top images are represented a lot of the trees that I just mentioned, the gumbo lamboes, the calophileum trees, Christmas palms, Alexander palms and so on, cabbage palms. Down below represent a lot of the shrubs, accents and ground covers that I'm going to speak about on the next, go over on the next couple of slides. So I've got about four or five slides that are kind of in largements of our planting plan. I wanted to give you a better detailed look of what the landscape might look like underneath the tree and palm design. So here it was just starting with the entry design or the entry coming into the club. The shrub concept for the main entry is a manicured yet tropical feel while also making it tied to the common area of landscaping across the street. We wanted everything to kind of tie and blend together with some of the common areas in Port Royal. From Gordon Drive layering upward towards the club we start with Luch Slyzha Turf in the right of way, back to Asian Jasmine and then accentuated with pockets of silver agave as and then backed with Clusia and photocarpis hedges. The parking islands in this image down to the bottom, bottom side of the slide. The parking islands are all planted with green, green chaffelera, wax jasmine, and beautiful purple, queen and macronom lilies. Those are all underneath the gumbo limbo trees. The main drive up to the club is we start going up towards the ramp area. On the right hand side, we start layering back all of our landscape as layered. We start with Asian Jasmine. That layer is backed Asian Jasmine and June sunflower for a little bit of color. And then that layer is back to variegated chefelera, Burley marks filled in dren and some silver button wood for some more interest. On the lower area of the slide around the parking lot, we do have potocarpis hedges and Clucia hedges provided there just to kind of screen any of the cars that are parked in the parking of the ground level parking. The building entry, this is a quite special area as we get near the front doors in the Port of Cacheir. The shrubs and ground cover for the building entry become more tropical in nature due to the protection provided by the building from the western salt spray. Meaning on this side of the building we can get away with some plant material that we may not be able to get away with on the beach side of the building. Also as I mentioned before, the microclimate provided by the large Ficus tree gives us this opportunity to design with some shade-loving plants. Underneath the Ficus tree we find lush variegated ginger, orange yellow and red crotens, Xanadu, Philadelphia, Dendran, Green Island Ficus, and again some pops of silver from the silver agave and then a large bed of annuals as one approaches the front doors or approaches the club. Against the building the plant is similar, tropical in nature, more purple queen emichorinums, zanadufeladendron and some variegated ginger. Working away from the front doors to the left and right we get a little more structured with potocarpis foundation plants, some bursts of texture from some split leaf elephant ears, as well as bringing in some color with pink high biscuits and doons sunflower. And all those plants are kind of as shown here in the images to the left and right on the slide. Going back to our parking garage buffer on Gordon Drive in the northeast corner of the property. We continue with the tropical planting, tones and textures of greens with some pops of silver. In the parking area, in front of our layered tree buffer that I described earlier with the fish tail poms, the califialan trees and the cabbage poms. We do have a Clucia hedge, which is our backbone of our shrub buffer. The front of that Clucia hedge is fronted with a contrasting variegated chefahlera, and then Asian jasmine in front of that with big pockets of silver agaves. Creating focusing on the street, using larger pockets, creating a bit more of a street scape sort of feel for this buffer. But it'll be a very dense full buffer from the ground up. The pool area on this slide. In the pool area, we continue with the tropical planting, but proposed it in a more of a layered structured manner, following some of the lines of the architecture and the hardscape. On the neighbor side of the South buffer, at the bottom of the side, we've continued with a six foot tall hedge of Clusia that runs east and west. And then back behind the Clusia between the wall and the Clusia is a maintenance area where we can maintain all of our planting on our property. On the inside of the wall, on the club side of the pool side of the wall, we're proposing a continuous row of four-foot green shuffle era, and then espaluating Confederate jasmine on our 11-foot wall up behind the cabanas to help kind of soften up the obscure of the wall, and all of that is sitting in a nice bed of green island ficus. Around the pool, our required pool fences are hidden with photocarpus. And the planters around the corners of the pool are accented with purple queen hemocrinums again and more green island ficus. Circular shade garden is kind of a special area in this space. We've used tropical material here to create a cozy feel. We're using combinations of dunes sunflower, native cunti, psycads, white and purple crime lilies, colorful crotons and seasonal annuals for the garden area. To the right of the slide, there's a privacy wall that runs north and south. We're softening that wall with photocarpus and also introducing some native silver red tip cocoa plum and then some jasmine at the base of that buffer. That's where the parking kind of comes to our privacy wall at the pool area. The back of the club. Because of the rhythm of the architecture and the layered planter was dropping down from the building, we're using our tropical material again, but we're using it more of a tiered sort of manner. It has a little bit of structure to it. Starting on this slide from the beach working back towards the club. We are enhancing the beach in the dune area with some native plant material and pockets along the back. Railroad vine, dune sunflower as well as sea oats. Working back towards the sea wall. We're obscuring and buffering the two event lawn areas with silver button wood. It's 30 to 36 inches tall. So we have nice beds of silver button wood shrubs buffering the turf areas from the beach. And then continuing back towards the club, we kind of finish up with layered planters of green owl and ficus ground cover, orange yellow, croton masses, pink highbescus, more of the dune sunflower, foundations of potecarpus hedging, breaking up these planter walls so it feels like the gardens just kind of step up to the club and then we just provide some accents with more purple crinums, imperial bromillads, agaves, and annual beds. The paving for the club, this is kind of a colored and a diagrammatic sort of format and it relates to the images to the left side of the slide. The concept for the paving for the club is kind of a transitional sort of feel, a little bit of traditional, a little bit of contemporary. With a focus of tying back to the beach, sand, and shells. At Gordon Drive, we have a new walk in the right of way, that's the pink area on this slide. That walk has been specified to match the pavers in the common areas across the street, as well as the crosswalk coming across Gordon Drive. As we work up the drive, the yellow area, up through the middle of the site towards the front doors, our main drive area is a three-piece blended pavers, gray tones. It's a nice kind of ashlor three-piece pattern. Ashlor, a bit of a traditional feel, but it's got a really flat top to it to the pavers, giving it more of a modern feel. The darker gray blend will help us a lot with camouflaging tire marks and things like that seen typically in a heavily used vehicular area. The walkways, the brown areas around this yellow color driveway on our diagram are the kind of opposite color palette from the drive. The drive's darker grays. The walks are lighter grays with dark gray borders. Seen in gray in blue areas on the slides. That's our parking areas. The gray areas are our ground parking. That's all asphalt. The blue is our parking garage. That's to be concrete. The walks in the back of the club are lighter and color, are lighter colored concrete pavers with exposed shell. The same pavers done are only used for the walks but they're also used for the pool area, some of the gathering spaces and seating areas. These are four by eight pavers and eight by 12 pavers with exposed shell kind of placed in a running bottom pattern. The steps at the back water feature in purple that's Turkey Shellstone for the steps, and that Turkey's shellstone is then repeated again around the pool area for the pool coping in a 12 by 24 inch shape. The lawn areas in the back are faux turf, and then between the little two lawn areas is our sandy sort of beach area behind the seawall, which will have beach sand in that area, kind of bringing the beach back up closer to the club. Well, last two slides are just some enlargement of our paving design, just to get a better idea of the detail. Much like the shrub slides that I showed earlier for the planting, this slide here demonstrates the darker gray for the drive, the lighter gray for the banding, the darker gray is a three-piece pattern of multiple pavers. This pavers are 4x8s, 8x8s, and 8x12s. It's a really nice looking pattern. Then in this slide here, you can see the detail at the portica share, where we've done a basket weave pattern with three inch by 12 inch pavers creating these squares with a lighter, 12 inch by 12 inch pavers creating these squares with a lighter 12 inch by 12 inch pavers creating the lighter banding between the accented basket weave. And our pavers are to the right hand side, the three blend and then the three by 12s. Lastly is our pool area. Pool area is a combination of expo shell concrete pavers for the pull area, the walks, the decking, the gathering space in the shade garden around the pool, the pool coping is the turkey shellstone, the 12x24. We went with a pretty muted palette for the pull area, lighter in color just to people with bare feet walking around the pull area, it stays nice and cool. Also it creates a nice backdrop for the pool furniture and the cabana to kind of pop out in terms of the aesthetics of the space. That's all of my slides, thank you. Thank you for your patience. As we wrap up, we wanted to revisit from last year the conditions of approval that were included with the preliminary DRB resolution Specifically on screen you can see those 13 conditions and in the slides that follow I want to review each of those in discharge of the conditions But firstly on this slide we must note that conditions 1, 2, 3, and 13 have been accommodated through other hearings. Specifically, we have received site plant approval from city staff in discharge of condition 1. We have received city council approval of conditional uses and outdoor dining in discharge of conditions 2 and 3. And we have not substantially changed or materially altered the 2023 design during the public hearing process and therefore we do not need a preliminary review as highlighted at condition 13. Regarding then the remaining nine conditions, condition four called for more contextual detail including a massing area of the building with respect to adjacent structures. If you squint, you can see the club in the center of this image. Perhaps it was too much content, so we zoomed in a little bit. And we showed here just the proposed clubhouse with its two neighbors to the north and to the south. It was fun getting a drone operator. Condition number five called for additional details relating to the climate protections afforded to the outdoor dining and pool area. On screen is a cross section at the pool bar, outdoor dining area including the red, orange, and yellow lines related to sun angles managed through the cantilevered slab. Outside of the building structure furnishings such as umbrellas and covered cabanas provide shade for diners revisiting this image from earlier in the show and now draw your specific attention to those furniture items here which combine with the shadows of the palm fronds that Pat just mentioned above to create shade as well as the cabanas on the left that help to further obscure an addition to the Aspelier Confederate Jasmine and other planting to further obscure the site wall off screen to the left. Regarding, lastly, excuse me, in discharge of condition five, other areas of outdoor dining have hurricane shutters and insect screens on the primary dining porches illustrated here in red in the plans and seen earlier in the section details. Regarding condition six in the design review handbooks crime prevention through environmental design, the club site plan includes walking pathways for members, guests and security personnel, lighting is present along those pathways for safety. Hurricane shutters can close after hours, and cameras are strategically located at the red dots on the plan to provide CCTV coverage of the site through remote monitoring. In discharge of condition seven, signage will be compliant with city ordinances. The public facing sign at Gordon Drive will be the reuse of the existing landscape columns at entry and within the site club branded way finding will be present. In your packets, we have submitted detailed lighting plans including both the keyed locations shown here on screen plus the thumbnails of the fixture types shown on the left. This information is subject to review and approval by FDEP's Fish and Wildlife Division, plus the city's environmental resources department. The low-level lighting character of the preceding pages plan is then seen here on screen. We have submitted this preceding page plus this glow plan in discharge of condition number eight. A few moments ago, Pat presented the club's proposed hard-scape plan, but given that it was condition number nine from last year, we highlighted here simply as a reminder of the contents of our comprehensive submittal. Now, condition 10 has a few components to it. The condition asked that we, quote, revise the landscape plans to enhance plantings on the lower levels to mitigate the visual impact of the structure, specifically on the south side of the site. At the south side of the site, at the south boundary, the club's conditional use approval was conditioned upon the inclusion of an 11-foot tall sight wall located 10 feet north of the South property line adjacent to the pool. On screen is a section of that wall in the upper left drawing and along the bottom a plan of the wall's location. The blue portion of the sight wall is 11 feet tall. The yellow portion is 6 feet tall and the pink portion in the front yard set back in the plant at the bottom all the way to the right is 30 inches tall. The blue portion is located such that the four layers of landscape plantings that Pat described can buffer the walls presence when seen from the south, including at the south, a continuous six foot kuccia hedge, 14 foot, calif Island, working our way, continuing north 19 to 23 foot, stable palms, and then ultimately 35 foot tall, coconut palms. On screen is a visual representation of that layered planting similar to some of the dense screening, as Pat mentioned along airport road. In addition to planting considerations at the South property line, condition 10 also discuss planting at the base of the building, which is seen here on screen in discharge of the condition, but more specifically described by Pat as he walked through all of the proposed plantings. Regarding condition 11, the club has two proposed locations for artificial turf on the west side of the building. Between the beach sand and the turf, 30-inch tall silver button wood will visually conceal the turf from passers-by on the beach. The turf will be irrigated to cool it, and a physical sample is available here today should you wish to take a look. And finally, condition 12 requested the improvement of pedestrian crossings across Gordon Drive to tie together the two parcels of the club. City Council Resolution 24 15354 from May of this year also required the same crossing improvement. We showed this image earlier, but it's a representation of what was agreed to in those prior hearings and the site plan approval from staff. In addition to the pedestrian improvements across Gordon, there is also an extension of the traffic islands seen here in the center of the image so that pedestrians can pause while changing their view from inbound traffic to outbound vehicles or vice versa. In summary, we then feel we've discharged all the 13 conditions from the preliminary approval and as such, want to turn our attention to a summary of the merits of today's petition. The 14 criteria cited in the city's code of ordinances are listed on screen. Specifically, the proposed overall plan for the project, including site plan design, landscape, lighting, signage, all collectively contribute to the image of the city as a visually attractive community. The quality of the project is consistent and compatible with the surrounding neighborhood structures, and does not cause the local neighborhood or environment to depreciate material in appearance or value. The proposed project scale and the size colored proportion of building elements, components and materials are appropriate and harmonious with the positive existing character of the immediately surrounding neighborhood and the broader community. The proposed project uses appropriate building materials consistent with the code of ordinances. The project includes design elements that are of a scale at the ground floor that are consistent with pedestrian experiences. The project reinforces existing site characteristics by orienting the building to maintain a strong visual connection to the Gulf and enhance the landscape buffer along Gordon Drive. The project appropriately integrates landscape elements into the site plan and building design, reinforcing the character of the immediately surrounding neighborhood. The design is appropriate to its function. The project is climatically responsive with its architectural massing, shutter and screen details, solar orientation and material palette. The primary entrances to all of the facility provide directing community and access from main streets and on-site parking areas. Signage is integral to the design. The project incorporates defensible space concepts of CPTED. Having secured site plan approval, conditional use approval, fence and wall waiver, and outdoor dining approval. The proposed redevelopment is in conformity with the effective guidelines and standards of all applicable ordinances. Plus those adopted under section 50-241. And finally, the proposed plan promotes the vision plans critical element goal to provide an extraordinary quality of life for residents by maintaining and improving amenities that have existed for club members in the surrounding Port Roa community for decades. Implicit to the core goal is its emphasis on maintaining those social functions, public or private, that give the community the events that make it special. Secondly, keeping an ambiance and experience, which is often described as small town, and thirdly helping to build a sense of community, working together for the common good. The Port Royal Club, as a centerpiece of the community, has driven to manifest these aspirations in the proposed plans for the beach club. A clubhouse designed to aid in the formation and cultivation of friendships and fellowship in this close-knit neighborhood. Therefore, as a licensed architect in the state of Florida, I would respectfully request your approval of today's final DRB petition. I'm available for questions as is Pat. Thank you for your patience. Thank you, Jim. Shave a step with you. Good afternoon, Mr. McCarthy. How many residents are there in Port Royal? Do you have any idea of the number of residents that reside in Port Royal? Overall residents because not every lot is a member of the club. 706 homes in the town. 706 homes. Of those 706 homes, how many club members are there? 665. It's down a little bit through the assessment process. 623. 623. So the majority of the homeowners are also club members. Yes. Okay. And at one point, after the club was destroyed by Hurricane Ian, did the club members decide to engage in a committee to oversee the rebuilding of the club? There were a number of different committee structures that were put in place. Firstly, is there board? The board commissioned a third party to conduct a survey of all the different programmatic expectations or requirements. The board already had in place a finance committee that was empowered to look at reserves, insurance proceeds, and other mechanisms to put in place a new building to rebuild. And then lastly, in terms of the day-to-day interactions that we have had is with the Building Committee. Building Committee comprised of developers and other professionals who are members of the club and we're empowered to work with us and weekly to our meetings every Tuesday afternoon to balance the requirements of the board in terms of programmatic expectations that were provided through the survey. Balance that with the finance committee, both what does it cost to build this, and equally long-term what does it cost to staff this? And how does that then ultimately translate to membership dues? And then the building committee also reviewing rafter tales and railing details and all of the different aesthetics that you see here working through with the group to balance all of those different considerations. So how many members of this design, build committee were there? 12 to 15, dependent on the stage of the process that we were working through. And when did you start meeting with this group? In February about 18 months ago. And how often did you meet with this group? In February about 18 months ago. And how often did you meet with the group? Weekly. Weekly. And you say that there were architects and builders and that were also members of the club that were part of this group. Yes, ma'am. I was put through the ringer. OK. And then, Erica, 70 letters I understand were mailed out to property owners within a thousand feet of property. And are there any members of the public that are here to speak on it today? We haven't received any public comment. And has anyone written in any emails, anything? I did not for this items, not for the DRBA item. OK. I ask all these questions because I want it clear to the residents of Naples just how much this has been reviewed by the actual club members and the people that were appointed by the club members to, that had their trust in this building committee to interact with you and to come up with a project that they thought was best for them. So, you know, it's very unusual that we have that layer in between a petition and coming up to the design review board. So I kept that in mind when I reviewed these plans and that this is really was this huge collective of people that had invested interest in what this property was going to look like, what the landscaping was going to look like, what the textures were going to look like, the locations of the rooms, how many restaurants, etc., all of that has already been reviewed by the people that are actually going to be using it. So I found that very interesting and rather unique. So I had the good fortune to present it on multiple occasions. And even though there is an assessment required of each member, it was still a 93% vote of approval within the club. When I presented it to everyone and they had to cast their ballots to specifically say this is a go or it's not a go. Thank you. So I'm going to defer to my brethren who have more expertise in the area of architecture. I'm rather disappointed. We don't have unfortunately today our landscape architect with us and I almost wish we could take that portion, the landscape portion of the review that is part of any of these conditions and sort of hold off until we had that member here to be able to add her comments. I'm not going to put any words in her mouth but but I pat and I did meet with her last week. Thank you. I appreciate that. So I believe that the non-conditions that were necessary for us to review have been met based on the changes that were made. So I will pass to my brethren. Thank you. Look. I think it's, thank you for listening to our previous review, obviously you and your team and everyone's listened. I mean, it's blatantly obvious that every attention to detail is, you know, every piece of landscape, every design element has been thought about and really used and it's not that the Port Royal Club is a public club but it's been a part of Naples history like the Beach Club for a very long time and your design reflects that. It's not trying to create something that doesn't fit into the culture of Naples or especially the Port Royal Club. So, you know, their reputation perceives itself and how they treat their employees and, you know, and the design and how they wanted to rebuild this and it's shown in your presentation. So, your presentation was great and explained everything. I'd like your previous one did today and I think that you and the entire team of the board and landscape and development, I think you guys have really hit it out of the park here and congratulations. Thank you. I echo a lot of what Luke just said. I think that the building itself is gorgeous, very well designed and very much in keeping with what you'd want to see in that space. I love the landscaping and the fact that you did take a lot of the palms on the beach side, but you put in a lot of deciduous trees and a lot of padding to the public side to hide the building but also to give it kind of a nice lush appearance. You did everything you could to help the neighbor to the south with the fact that the wall and the planks that you're going to put in there. You know, we'll do as much as possible. Pulling the building back from the beach a bit helps the general public. Can I see a copy piece of the turf I did want to look at that and just kind of get a few? I just want to make sure it's not going to be too bright green and everybody's face. Because it is going to be something that the public sees. Yeah, I mean, I think that's very natural feelings. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something it was going to be just bright green in your face and not in keeping with other things you'd see up and down the beaches you're walking by. I grew up in Minnesota. I don't want the metredome at Esther Turf. Yeah, no. Nor do we want Boise State. That's me. No, so I think everything you guys have done in here is top to here. One question I had. I didn't see any stations for foot cleaning for sand and that kind of stuff. Do you have anything built in there to take care of that for physical off-beats? As you come off the beach adjacent to the existing sea wall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I think it's an amazing project. Thank you. I kind of reflect their comments as well. But a couple of things. One, dealing with a committee to design something is an arduous task. And I just want to commend you and your team because I knew it to patients. It took skill to incorporate everybody's demands to come out with a consensus that high is you're very skillful at building consensus and I think it shows in the building, this is not a building that was designed by committee. It was a building that an architect designed in response to the committee, which is the way it should be. And I would just want to commend you and the members of Port Royal Club, you did an excellent job. It's a massive team effort. I'm doing that. And in a relatively short period of time, sometimes these things drag out years and years and years. So within your 18 month time frame, it's rather impressive to come up with a design that's complicated and sophisticated, and then go through the review process. Also, everybody else is your head too. The building itself and its character, the building really, I think, goes back to the tradition of Port Royal, which was initially a Bohemian design that was almost mandated when it was built in the 50s and the 60s. And that picks that up, but in a much more sophisticated and in a more almost resort style way. I know you've done work in the Bahamas. I've stayed at one of your hotels in the Bahamas, and you get it, you understand it. And I think you did your research on the history and the tradition of this community, and it reflects in the architecture. I think that needs to be stated as well. I do have a couple questions. One, bring up your, I think it's a perspective from the north west corner of the building from that one right there. There's a head of the second floor, there's something blue up there. What is that? On the upper level. On the upper level. On the upper level. It is a detail, I'll flip to this cross section of it in just a moment. But it is a detail of it's made out of stucco, but it's designed to look like louver blades. And that's ultimately where we conceal the boxes of the insect screen in there. OK, but on the ground floor, they're behind that louver screen. The ground floor is just glass behind the louver because I have that's an air condition dining. So it's a bit crazy but we have wet space over dry space. But you're open space to the to the right of that is there do you have those pull down screens there? That is ground floor yeah yep so if I go back and and sure you can see the slot in those column details On the top and on the on the on the Family casual, so let me just see and on the ground floor as well. Yeah, so this this line here where my cursor Okay, so they're buried up They're buried up into the soft if you don't you're not accentuating them. Yeah, so this is designed to be more of the masonry Expression and the larger columns and then up top with the more over center is more to be the wood. Okay. So both of them are screened just that you've accommodated that detail in a different way. In slightly different ways. Okay. Exactly. One had a roof structure coming over the top versus a concrete slab that was forming the ceiling so it drove some different edge conditions. Yes. I was surprised to see that you have a painted concrete wall. Talk to me about where that is and why is it? It's only the precast garage. So is it totally screened? You're painting it and then it's heavily screened with landscape things. That's correct. So the reason Pat went through in detail, for example is the entry drive Gordon on the right that the painted concrete wall is where my cursor is We then have a open air Area way that allows air down into the garage below And then you get both the upper level Palms as well as the ground level so whether it as the ground level. So whether it's the fish tails or the palm, the Alexander's, in combination, you're not. No, you're painting that out dark so that it blends into the landscaping. Yes. So it'll be dark green or bark. Because it's something that disappears. It disappears. OK, that was, you want to do on a sea through the landscaping. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. I guess my question is really for Pat. First of all, Pat, that I've been on this board for nine years and your presentation for landscape is the finest that I've heard. Oh, thank you. I wish more landscape, you know, we had two of them today and yours, you know, more than head and shoulders, you have waist high above the previous one. Thank you. You, you, without, sometimes going, you know, our landscape architect on the board, you know, she reads these plans and kind of probably figures them out much quicker. For us, even architects, I'm just no enough to be dangerous. Sure. But for you to tell us what each species was, show it's how tall it was, how it layered your presentation, both graphically and verbally, it was outstanding. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. And I would love to have it clipped out and used to show other presenters. This is what we would expect. Oh, great. Those listening. I do have a couple of questions and again I know enough to be dangerous. You're talking about a shellstone. Are we talking about the kind of shellstone that we have here in Florida? Is it Turkey shellstone? So it's a lot of dense or shellstone. So when I power washes it's not going to get sharp edges on it. Right now like the shell stones that might come out of like South America we used those a lot denser shellstone. It's not- When I power wash it, it's not going to get sharp edges on it. Right now, like the shellstones that might come out of like South America, we used those a lot years ago, and they would pit and stain very easily. This is a lot denser stone. We used it on a lot of the homes in Port Royal as well. Okay. Not more durable. Not more durable. A couple of your plant materials. And then, a gavi. Those things are, they bite. They in locations where kids running around, they're not going to get, you know, a big dash. Our firm practices, we push them away from the sidewalks, well into the beds so that no one can get near them. I have them at my house. I have to watch out for them from time to time. But our office practices, we push them in on the bed. So you're not walking by him and rushing by him. Okay, yeah, that's one of my concerns. You, go back to this, there was a color in the street, go back to your pavement. I don't know, I think I understand it, but I just want to clarify. That one right there. Yes. That kind of pinkish salmon, it's the one on the bottom, I can't even read it on the screen. What is that material? It's a paper. It's a concrete paper board matching the it's gonna be the same as the crosswalks And then there's some pinkish pavers across the street in the common areas So it's what you matching the existing one's one of the comments from Sabrina during the pre Approval was to make sure we tied to the common areas. OK. And then you're switching to that tan paper once you've crossed the property. It's actually a gray paper. I don't know where it was. With the tan color. It was kind of Disney how we did this diagram. But it's a gray paper as we cross over. So the gray and the pinkish sort of color, they'll be OK together. You mentioned the breakers. Did you work on the breakers? I did, but I've been there several times and I always admire their landscaping, especially on the beach side, even a harsher environment that we have in terms of oceanfront. I know. And it's amazing. I just came from AIA convention last month and the breakers spent a week there. And we do there every three years. You're absolutely right. Landscape is gorgeous. It's well maintained. It enhances that building. And that is a great example to look to. Oh, well, good. Thank you. It's been inspiring to me for years. Yeah, especially as we get near the beach, our plant pallet really starts to shrink. Yeah, and then being on Atlantic Ocean is a little bit different than being on the Gulf. Yeah, it's a lot tougher over there in terms of wind and salt. Yeah, definitely. Beautiful landscape job. Thank you. And for, all right, how are we? You guys always do every project that you bring for us, you make sure the landscaping is extraordinary. And I think that, and we're a city of trees and landscaping, and landscaping is important to us. So I'm more so sometimes than the building itself. So kudos to you on this. If we do our job right, the landscape's the thing that you take home in terms of your memory and the building really recedes into the background. Staff report. Not drags out Eric Martin Planning Director. I previously been qualified as an expert in planning and zoning. That'll be the nature of my testimony today. You have before you a request for final design review of the Port Royal Club. As the petitioner mentioned, the majority of my staff board is background because this club has been through all of the steps of the process. They went through preliminary design review. They have addressed all of the conditions that were placed by this board on their preliminary approval. From there they went through the administrative site plan process, that was found sufficient, and then they went on to plan a advisory board and city council. That was for a conditional use. This is in a district that requires a conditional use approval for all uses, public service, but specifically for a private beach club. So they obtained the conditional use, and they also obtain approvals of a fence and wall waiver. That's for the wall, that's on the south side of the property that privacy wall. And then also for their outdoor dining request. There were a number of conditions that makes up the majority of the background section of your staff work. There were a number of conditions on all three on all three of those approvals but most notably on the conditional use. Some of those are design related so you'll see that in the staff report. The particular authority was given to the design review board on the landscaping screening the wall on the south side so it looks like Tim's going to go to that. So you'll see on the last page of your staff report, I provided the exhibits that were included in the presentation to City Council and in the resolution of approval. But what was left in there was that the specific plant species, like the makeup of that buffer would be determined by the design review board. So just keep that in mind. That's a part of your specifically part of the approval that you will be offering today. We did find this request consistent with the design review standards and the current handbook. We did, like I mentioned, we sent notices out to all property owners within a thousand feet. We did not receive any correspondence in response to that mailing. Staff is recommending four conditions. The first is pretty standard. We're just reiterating that the petition will be required to comply with all conditions of approval provided in resolutions. 2024, 15, 421, 15 15422, and 15423. Those are the resolutions I mentioned before for the conditionally used, Spence and Wall, and outdoor dining petitions. The next is that all signage will be required to adhere to the signage standards per chapter 50. They did provide exhibit showing you the directional signage throughout the site. They are not on any of the plans provided providing any large monument or wall signs. It's just directional throughout the site. So when those details come in on their sign permit, they'll be code compliant. The next is that exterior lighting will be limited due to the location of the project on the beach and within 300 feet of the line. I mean high water and will be reviewed by the Natural Resources Manager for compliance with all marine turtle protection regulations. That's just a reminder that if you were to make any changes to any light fixtures or anything, they will have to be reviewed by natural resources and in compliance with DEP due to the location of this project. And then the last is that the proposed addition of Dune vegetation will require review and approval by the Natural Resources Manager for compliance with Dune vegetation will require review and approval by the natural resources manager for compliance with Dune vegetation regulations. We have our code specifies plantings in the dunes. Those were the only four conditions that we were proposing. And then again, just keep in mind that the specific make-up of that buffer along the south is. I think when missing one the closely usually puts in there just as of course the landscape architect will certify yeah yeah that's too much landscape for you to certify is it yeah that's that's usually what of the standards as you're flashing through their time I notice something that I commented when we met last week. I just want to show it. Go to that, what you call the glow diagram. That is a absolutely beautiful way of showing photo metrics and how the impact of photo metrics. We get these photometric engineering drawings with all the foot candles on them. And yeah, I get it. But this shows how it behaves. This is an excellent image. And again, something I would really love to see more of. It tells us how you're lighting this site and how it behaves. Thank you for that. Any other comments? Any other discussion? Given no further discussion, I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion for final design review for petition 24-DRB32 at at 2900 Gordon Drive with staff conditions. So I hear second. She's your second. Yeah. Okay. All call please. Also remember Dupont. Yes. Vice Chair Frederickson. Yes. Member Boyd. Yes. Member M. K. is absent. Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you All right, I think we've made it through It's 24-DR 33. That one. That one. That's minus 7G. Oh, it's 7G. We skipped. Okay. All right. 7G 24-drb 33. It's a resolution for the purposes of determining condition 24-drb 33. Relating to final design review of exterior facade changes on a property owned by the Barclay condominium building owners and located at 2255th Avenue South image-cape presenting and I know you've been sworn in. Yes sir. Disclosure. Disclosure. I've been to the site review the application. I have been to the site review the application. I have had a site visit with Miss Latimer and we, my firm, potentially maybe doing this project. We're going to bid on it. So, just making that known. Let's finish this first. I visited the site and reviewed the application. Toward the site to review the application. Do we have a conflict with Luke on this one? Council? Do we have a conflict with Luke potential to know the background with loose potential of being involved in the construction of the potential with Mike Morowsky commission on ethics? Well, yes. The last time this came up it was I haven't been awarded the project. I mean, I may be bidding the project. Last time you advised that I could still vote or speak on it because I'm not involved with the project yet. I'm disclosing there's a possibility that I may be down the road. Okay, I don't remember giving that advice. Was that me or Matthew? It was me. It was me. Probably, I mean, this was probably half a year ago, maybe longer. Okay. You can always request an informal or a formal opinion from the Commission on Ethics Council, Mike Murawski. The formal ones go to the Commission on Ethics and the informal ones are handled by him. So you would have a conflict if you have a special pecuniary gain or loss in the project. So as it sits right now, I do not. If you have a quorum without Luke, I think it's pretty straightforward. If that helps, let's find with me to be safe. I can, you know, it's going to come between that helps. Let's find with me too, to be safe. I can, yeah, let's get it. I'm going to be safe. It could be used yourself. OK, then I will recuse myself. There'll be a form that you fill out. Form eight that they have in the clerk's office if you can fill that out and describe the conflict and then turn it in. OK, usually. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Is the procedure when you recuse yourself, do you have to leave the room? So in other cities and counties, you're allowed to stay at the Dias, but under the city of Naples Code, you're not allowed to participate in the deliberations. So you're done and excused for today. You can listen. There's some sandwiches in the back if you'll. We do have sandwiches in the back too if you want to have a sandwich and then come back after. There might be some. Actually, the county does the same thing too. That's what I said. Okay. The state law you're allowed to generally, but if the local government has a more restrictive provision then you have to file the more restrictive local provision. We have a more restrictive code of ethics on it. Wonderful. And he's going to get a sandwich before we do it. Okay. That's not fair. I know my secret. Now that we've gone through these administrative snags, the diocese is yours. Thank you. For the record, Mark McLean, MHK Architecture, 2059, Tammy Amitro East. The project that we bring you today is 255 Fifth Avenue South. It's the west end of the first residential block as you come to the end of our wonderful Fifth Avenue. There's kind of two buildings. There's an east building that has four units, two units per floor on the second and third floor. It's two stories over parking. We're not making any square footage changes to the existing building. There's the aerial location for you. We're not making any square footage changes. the existing building. There's the aerial location for you. We're not making any square footage changes. The two buildings are connected by a catwalk breezeway that's an architectural feature off of the alleyway. The building architecturally kind of faces the alleyway that we'll refer to as the front, the north side, as the front, the south side that's all the terraces or linoys that would traditionally be the rear of a building faced fifth avenue. So it's a little different than a traditional building on fifth avenue as far as front edge goes. Couple of simple, like I said, it's two stories over parking, so this is just a column profile of the ground floor, how everything is parked underneath. You can see the catwalk that connects the buildings on the north side. There's four units per floor two in the east, two in the west building, up on the third floor, same thing, two in two, roof plan. Now you can see how the balconies and the roofs connect the units together. Some 2D elevations of the building, going through the description of what's there. This existing building is painted yellow. I'll kind of get through these. The existing building is a tanish yellow T111 sided building. It is a wood framed building on a concrete podium. When I kind of scroll through these to bring you the new colors, what we're gonna do with this is we're gonna go clear back down to the studs and completely re-skin this building. We're going to go back in with a hardy board siding. We're going to use hardy board batons and we're just going to set up a board and bat and profile. One of the things I wanted to kind of step to this third photo here is you can see there's a horizontal band midway through the lower windows on the existing imagery. They had some damage, some termite damage in the past. They had some storm damage in the past. And they just went in there and cut the T11, put new T11 on it and put a band in it. So that's why we're eliminating those bands. So it's basically just, it's a building that's sitting there that's 50 years old, it's never had a heavy maintenance, it's had a good life. It's got good bones to it, but we're going to go in there and we're going to re-skin this building So if I come back along the back the railings are going to be new railings But they're very similar to what was there. We've put a wood cap on them on these public balconies along the back You can see we're going to add some hardy boys PVC TNG ceilings to these to kind of address them up a little bit currently. They're just white ceilings there. We're gonna go to the white building with a true board and bat and look to the building, get a nice wood look ceiling on it, just to give it a little bit of warmth from the space. The existing pavers and everything there are fine, the landscaping is fine. We're not replacing any of this. Just a little keyed in details and features. You can see on the left side of this image, there's a dumpster enclosure there. We're not changing the dumpster enclosure, but we're gonna put a gate on it and just kind of put a new skin on the building, put a new face on it. The existing windows or white windows, we're gonna come back in with all new bronze windows. There'll be all new impact rated windows, a new hardy skin on it coming around to the rear here. Again, we're going to simplify all of these terraces on the back of each one of these units are screen enclosed as they exist now. We're going to take them out, put in new railings and new view screens, just kind of open up their screen. Give the building a fresh new look with the board and batten. Again, take the white windows and make them bronze windows and just kind of modernize the look of the building a little bit. The roof that's on this building is a standing seam metal roof that is only five years old, so we're not touching the roof. It is the existing roof and we're going to leave the roof the way it is. From that standpoint, we just work around on the colors a little bit. We're using the traditional MHK, extra white or pure white and extra white, traditional MHK building colors. This is an aerial fish kind of show the regional. For those of you that were on site to review the application, the building just to the north of it here on the bottom of this image is coconut grove that we just finished and did a very similar program on coconut grove. They went a little more horizontal hardy sideings. Same thing. Wood frame buildings that we completely re-skinned. We think it turned out remarkable. They're very happy and the Barkley's going to be the next to go in there and do this. So we're going to go with an alabaster color that kind of fades to white with a pure white trim. The new Vista Wall lanterns will be put in by the new doors. We're putting new true style or a similar wood look door. These are fiberglass doors that are wood look doors. They're amazing doors. And with that, we've got a few lighting perspectives kind of show how the lighting shows off of the existing doors. He said there's no landscape changes to what we're doing to the building. We're taking that older building that's in due of some maintenance and putting a nice new fresh skin on it with gutters down spouts and We're here to gain your approval Okay, Doug I think it looks great. I don't know many other comments. Thank you Shane I'm sorry. Can I see that the? Sure. We didn't have that in our. So the doors, let me see if I can find one for you here. The doors set back in. So here's the existing doors. They sit back in here. So here's the unit door and the unit door. The unit door and the unit door. And obviously it mirrors to the other side. And down here in the package, that's the new door that we're putting in there. Right. that's the new door that we're putting in there. That's what I didn't see. That's really nice. Thank you. Okay, that was one question. And then the other one was the wood ceiling details. I didn't see that in the place. So the way it exists now, if you look in these catwalks that connect the buildings, it's just a white stucco. And there you go, we're gonna do the wood inside the beams. Well, that's the most detail we get. Yes, ma'am. Okay. I mean, it's basically what's there now is I think it's a drywall that's in there. We'll take all of that out. We'll make sure there's no mold or anything in it, and then we'll just put the hardy siding back up. We'll probably plywood it to put the hardy back up, because it's PVC. It can heat and leak a little bit. We'll just, if it doesn't have a plywood substrate in it, we'll put a plywood substrate in it, and then put the hardy right on it. really no detail for that. Is there any wood on the lower level on the ceiling? No ma'am. On the lower garage level we're not touching that because that's the bottom of the existing concrete. There's nothing wrong with that. That's just getting repainted. Okay. So on the first residence floor it also goes the length. Yes ma'am. It runs from here all the way down. So if I take that, this is a rendering from the north west corner. If I come over here, this would be a rendering from the north east corner. So it's the same thing. So it's a mirror image of the building, but you can see it continues from all the way down there all the way through and across. So all the resident access points will have that nice ceiling. What type of wood is that? It's not wood, it's a PVC product made by Hardy Moise. Oh yeah, okay. That looks just like a six inch TNG. This is their walnut version. Okay. All right, those are the only two things I didn't see detail on. Appreciate it. Thank you. I know other questions. There's a couple of simple things. Windows, these casement windows? The ones on the right there, there's a pair of casements with a small picture in the middle of it. And the single ones on the front, the big tall ones, are they casements? Yes, sir, those are casement windows. On the side yeah we're replacing them in kind and paint kind yes and the seal and trim work around them that that's all hardy as well yes sir okay yes are you doing the ceilings on the the balconies no sir because those are individual owner balconies so the individual owner balconies will stay just as they as they currently exist okay so you're not doing anything no No, sir. Are you painting inside of those? Yes, sir, that'll get, because they're gonna paint the porches, because we're gonna T1, 11, the porches. So the entire exterior skin of the building, including the ceilings in the bottom of the garage, it'll all be repainted. Okay, so you're replacing the, deciding on those balconies. Yes, sir. It's hard to see because of the screen. Yeah, that's why I'm asking the question. Yeah, you can see the the board and bat and kind of sticks down there incorrectly. But yeah, the board and batons, and there'd be a trim board on that window, but aren't that sliding glass door? But yeah, we are doing the board and baton in the porch. And the ceilings right now, we just drywall. There's any damage in it will replace the damage and And you're replacing the screens. Yes, sir So the screens that are there now are the you know the old traditional four foot on center screens We've had this checked and we can do view screen in there So we're gonna run the new railings and just view screen it from end to end top the bottom with one piece of screen You're gonna run from rail to no this is actually gonna go floor to ceiling and the railing will sit inside the screen side of the screen Yes, sir. Which is kind of what it does now. The image isn't great of that, but those screens go top the bottom and the railings. And why are you doing them in board? I'm sorry. Why are you doing the screen's in the railings in board of the screen because you kind of lose that detail. The screen because you kind of lose that detail. The screen goes dark and you lose the detail. Yeah, you lose the detail. To me, people tend to walk up and put their hands on a railing and I didn't want that screen blocking that. You know, it's kind of like if the screen's there, then you can't lean on the railing or kind of... I think it attracts me to look at the way with the view screens. I don't disagree with you. I think the only thing that I would potentially do with that would be run a horizontal beam in there and do the view screen above and below because like I said, what's there now? I think the yellow makes it shine through in these renderings where the white kind of faded out in the back. I think my graphics department got a little heavy on the blackness of these screens because you can see up here, these screens are really black and these screens are clearly. Are you using a dark color? No, sir. They're just traditional. I mean, they would literally be the same color. You know, the same insect screens. The same insect screens that are there now, except instead of having the're going to do it, I wouldn't go into it. You went through the whole effort of getting the piece in the back. I think it's going to look good. I wouldn't put horizontal in there. Yeah, I think it looks more like the left end down here, where you'll be able to see through it than it does here. This gets a little dark in the rendering up here. And those railings are painted at dark bronze. Those railings will be at dark bronzes. With a wood cap. Yes sir. All right. It's my only comments staff report. Thank you sir. Good afternoon Jeff Bramber with the Planning Department. I've been sworn in my credentials are in file. Petitioners requesting final design review approval for several aesthetic changes to an existing condominium complex on Fifth Avenue South. The changes include replacing the existing T111 siding with five or cement board and baton siding, replacing the existing unit entry doors and windows with new doors and windows, replacing the existing lini screens and railings with new screens and railings, and replacing the existing exterior ceilings with new ceilings. You've seen the specifics for these various components are described in greater detail in the seminal documents, and the petitioner has provided some additional information during his presentation. 620 letters were mailed to property owners within a thousand feet of the subject property. As of this morning staff had received no public communication related to the request. Again, I'm available for your questions, but that concludes my remarks and thank you. Chair, in the course of the hearing this morning, I did receive an email related to this particular item. We generally, I don't have a chance to review or take a look at emails when we're in the hearing. I believe the individual said the email is also here to provide public comments. We can certainly accept her public comment in this particular forum, but when the emails come in after the hearing has started it's hard to include that into the record. Can you read into the record from the email? Will we also give the individual an opportunity to speak herself? Is she here? She is. Oh okay. Is she here? Is she here? That's okay. And that's all the problem. Okay. That's it. Is that you? That's you. Okay. That's all the problem. Okay. That's it for your report? Yes. Very good. Do we have one speaker? And that's Linda Epstein. You've been swine in, Linda. No. Okay. Let's do so. Going up to the podium right there. Thank you. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Thank you. Please identify yourself for the record and who you represent. Linda Epstein. I am one of the owners at the Barclay. I'm in Unit 202. I purchased in 2020 and completely gut renovated my condo including the lini and the lini screen etc. etc. brought it all up to code, put in all new flooring. So it's all brand new and was pretty expensive. Most of us also already redone our linoids and the screens. In the rendering that is on this presentation, it shows that there's three verticals. There are two. So it's divided into thirds as is our sliders. They're divided in thirds inside as well. As far as putting a railing outside of the screen, I'm a clean freak. That would drive me bananas that I couldn't reach the, because those railings are filthy. I cannot believe how much dirt comes onto that one eye on a regular basis. That was one of the issues that I had. We haven't approved a door design yet we haven't as a H.O.A. we haven't said we are going to redo the railings and we haven't said that the railings, all the concrete was just done in 2015. So that was all reinforced and it's in great shape. The railings are in great shape. It's an expense. I just don't think we need to face right now, and we haven't approved it. As the windows, last time we talked, there were white windows surrounded in white, and then the building was going to be an ox, just a slightly off white. And then the dark elements of the, that we currently have the bronze railings, the bronze, the lani screens with the railings inside, and the new dark doors and the new ceilings, which I thought shouldn't be run in conjunction with the lines of the roof and the walls. I thought they should really be perpendicular to the building, but that's another story. That would be a really nice brown accent to break up everything, sort of as it exists, staying with the architecture that's suggested by the building itself. And then the other thing that I had noticed was, oh, the sides of the building, which aren't shown, the sides of the building are, especially from the second street view, there's different shaped windows, there's single casement windows, there's a double casement window that is over the sink, and then another single, another, anyway, it's all mixed up. It's on the side of the building. So some are over the kitchen sink, they're higher, some are lower. My thought was when we do board and batten because it will be sticking out three quarters of an inch, it'll cast a pretty tremendous shadow on the east and west walls. Currently, with the T111, it's a slight indent into it. I had suggested that we go with something that didn't have that raised thing. The raised thing also is going to hit windows at all different places. Might be this much on one side, this much on the other side, not hit centered on every window. It's going to be kind of mishmashed. That's one thing from the second street stride. The other thing, when we walk down our courtyard, we have the mirror walls, and it's going to be kind of all hodgepodge with all these batons hitting the windows all at different parts. I don't think it'll look good. I had suggested the Sierra A, which is also a hearty product that would give us a look somewhat similar to the T111, but a much more refined version of it that would look much, not quite smooth, but much smoother. And then also maintenance-wise when we have a seam one every 11 sorry at four feet versus all the Batons that will have to be Cocked and maintained that would be a problem currently whoever cocked our building now Cocked the entire drip edge, which is why we have all the damage the drip edge is not working It's not functioning. There's a big on both floors. It's completely filled with cough. So anyway, that was my concerns. So if you approve today, these are not really the things that we have approved yet. So I don't know that you table this or how that operates, but I really appreciate your time. Thank you. Any other questions for me? How are you structured here? Homeowners Association. Homeowners Association. There's eight voices. And there's eight votes on the Homeowners Association. And you're selling me the HOA has not approved all the many of these items that are before us. That's correct. So if we have some wiggle room and we can figure it out as we go along that. Well if that if that's the case if I'm hearing that HOA has not approved all these things you're only going to come back again anyhow so this may need to go back on continued can can Debbie's filling out a form that can speak to this I've been working with Debbie most of the time. You see that again? Debbie is filling out a form on this so to this. I've been working with Debbie most of the time. Say that again. Debbie is filling out a form on this, so she can speak. I've been dealing with Debbie most of the time. I'm confused, so I do it. Maybe I have another question. So have you been in meetings with the architects when the plans were being, can you get in at the podium? Sorry. Have you been in meetings with the architects as far as the changes? I was in for a little while. I actually had taken some architecture classes and had built a 5,000 square foot home, et cetera. So I had some more experience than some of the others did. And I thought we had reached a different agreement than what's being presented to you. There's been a lot of conflict, et cetera. reached a different agreement than what was being presented to you. There's been a lot of conflict, et cetera. The previously, well before we started talking about what needed to be done to the building, MHK had been contacted by our HWA president without us knowing anything about it. So it's just sort of been, we're not keeping a prize of what's going on. Our input is being ignored, et cetera, et cetera. So. All right. Thank you. Thank you. The sides of the building. Do you want to see them? I have some pictures. Intercourt your own. Then are concerned for me if there's the sides of the building that are going to be affected. You have to move those pictures with the clerk if you show them. Oh, sorry. They are. I actually did send in the pictures in an email this morning. So they are. They are. And they have been introduced as part of the record. But I could show you the picture. Are you just emailed them? I sent one as a PDF and one as a PowerPoint, and I was with the photographs in it. Just the PowerPoint was a little difficult to send out. The PDF would probably be a little easier to thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We have one more speaker. W. I can't quite read your last name. Latte. Latte? Good morning, Debbie Latimer. Latimer, okay. Thank you. Identify, have you been sworn in? Let's do that first. Do you swear firm that the testimony you're about to get is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. Okay, identify yourself and who you represent, please. I'm sorry. Identify yourself and who you represent. Debbie Latimer, I am Vice President of the Berkeley Condominium Association and have been involved with MHK from the outset. Okay. I was not expecting Linda's comments today, so I'm sorry I wasn't really prepared, but we have as an eight unit building voted throughout the process on as many things as we've been able to vote on. It's true we have not formally decided on a door yet. We don't have our design person set up with that presentation. We haven't agreed on that but we have submitted to the group a few choices that were represented. And so many members are starting to come to the conclusion but they look the doors all are in concert with the ones that are in our round-hour area. So they're traditional doors. The Board of Baton has already been voted on by I believe seven out of the eight unit owners. So the vote carried in our group. When we agreed to remove the T111 and go with the Hardy Board, there didn't seem to be a lot of choices with the Hardy Board. It was either vertical or horizontal. We agreed that we would just maintain the building pretty much looking as it does now, which the111 it looks like reverse boredom baton So we said we'll just do boredom baton and then the rhythm of the batons is going to be Understood best probably when they analyze the building see where the window is and then just measure it out Correctly, but right now we have it planned with MHK to be approximately 16 inches per board and then a batten which is in keeping with what's around our area. The existing T111 is about 10 and a half inches wide so it's not radically going to look much different but it'll be a little bit cleaner we're hoping and that's how we arrived at the board and batten and that would be deferred to the larcanis but when you when you lay out you batten in relationship to the windows you're going to lay them out not necessarily every 16 inches and you get a half a batten and the window you're gonna lay the pot so they work in conjunction with your bat and with your windows so even though they may vary in some of the panel with the window layout, so they relate to the windows. And that's just good architecture. Right, so we just kind of are acquiescing to whatever the rhythm is of the architecture. And then the screens that we did talk about as a group, again, majority agreed to do a picture window screen just to keep it nice and big and clean and remove some of the, I don't know what you're calling, lines, just studs or whatever they are that are there. That was in formatted, I guess, with the original design. But today, in just cleaning it up, we're planning to do the large picture screen. Some people did want the railings on the inside because they wanted the ability to clean them. Keep them easier that way. That was kind of a decision made for that. But all of these things have been voted on and they've been voted on. So you're telling me, as Vice President of the Board, everything's been voted on except the doj you tell me as is the president of the board that everything's been voted on except the door yet. I'm sorry. Everything has been voted on and approved that is on on marks plans with the exception of the door you have to do three door alternatives. Correct. Yeah. And that's on its way. We have a designer that we've been assigned and that person's going to give us some choices as a group for us to look at and choose doors that are consistent with the way. We've notified the board that like if you notice the the true style example that's in here we say or similar if it moves off this glass French door we would certainly bring it back. Yeah. Yeah, you probably had three of them in mind, probably should have given them the alternatives, then you wouldn't have to bring it back. Yes, sir. If we're only talking about a door here, I don't think that's a huge issue. Right. That's the plan. Anything else? No, thanks, sir. You got it. Thank you. Mark, do you have any? In closing comments on this? In closing what we brought before you is what has been presented to the board and to the best of our knowledge has been approved by the board. So we have proceeded at the board's pleasure. Okay. We have testimony from the board official that we have only thing outstanding is the doer. Yes sir? I'm scanning. He's the doer. Yes sir. I'd like to have seen plans for, I guess it would be second, street, south, that side of the building and the courtyard. Did I miss those? Well, the second street, south, would be that side there. There's really not a lot to it. It's the rhythm of the existing windows. We're not changing the existing windows. So that's the left side of this image here. Could have probably rotated the model. The courtyard's again are exactly like that. There's two windows that match the two windows here. Then there's a connection point and then there's a front window on it. So it's the same as the left of this. When we're getting into the exact sill projection with the skirt board to the sill to the termination point of the board and bat. I mean, those are construction drawing details. We normally wouldn't include those even at a final DRB level, but we're working on those construction drawings. I was just trying to understand Ms. Epstein's concerns about the asymmetry. Well, the asymmetry is an existing asymmetry. If you look at the left side of this image here, there's two windows. Then there's a square window there, and I might have a, did I have 2D there? So there's the 2D elevations of it. So you can see there's two windows, then there's a shorter window, then there's a single window. Those are existing. We're replacing the existing windows in the pattern they are. We're not making architectural changes to the building that would require floor plan changes for window relocation. We're just replacing what's there in kind just a different color window. Mark, I can see what she's seen saying. If you look at this elevation, you just kind of run those bad and they don't necessarily respect the window. And we will, when we get into construction drawings, we'll make all those equally spaced and maybe we make that a condition that you relate the batten spacing to the window spacing. Absolutely. We can do that when we worked on coconut grove to the north. We actually had the guys chalk out the batten locations before we ever even ran the stucco beads on it. So we can do the similar thing here. Yeah, great. Thank you. Any other discussion? Hey, so can we add that one condition? So do you have other conditions on your staff report? I didn't. To clarify the language, relate the batten spacing to the existing windows. So they relate to the existing window of spacing? Windows, Fair enough. We'll make sure it's all dimensioned in the construction drawings. Great. Sure you will. Yes ma'am. Any other discussion? So bring it back to the board for resolution. Make a motion to approve the petition 24 to SB 33 final design review for 225 Fifth Avenue South with staff condition. It isn't staff. It's our one condition. It's our can boy condition board condition second Local please on state member Dupont. Yes Vice chair Fredrickson has abstained member boy. Yes, member McCabe is absent chair review. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you, Matt. All right. Last thing on our agenda is the question of communication. We don't just a reminder that we are going to be experiencing some weather here in the next 36 hours. So if we can stay off the roads and avoid the water on the roadways that would be great. Let's just hope we don't have a two-year repeat here. I don't want that anniversary. Okay. Okay. I think the one other issue that came up just for the board's sake, we... Ma'am. Ma'am. We're in a meeting. Okay. Discussion outside. Thank you. We were to go before City Council, do we scout to review the design review board? Last week. Last week. To review the DRB handbook, they had an agenda that got extended and some issues that were much more pressing and the mayor said we wanted to do this kind of in a workshop context Originally they scheduled it for the 18th of October We were looking at October date, but now it's been Moved I believe it's the November workshop date We get a date out to the board. I'll let you know what that is I have a comment. Yeah, I know there was some other conflicts and on the October So it's now moved to November and hopefully this will be the You know what that is once I have a comment. So I know there was some other conflicts on the October. So it's now moved to November. And hopefully this will be the culmination of the process so we can get this handbook legitimately under use. Yeah, exactly. Any other discussion or any other issues? OK. Stay safe, everyone. We'll see you next month. Okay. Do I hear motion? Do I turn? Make a motion to adjourn. Do I hear second? Second. Oh, in favor. Hi. We're out of here. you you you you you