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Say all right. Or a study session, not official meetings. First time on our agenda is consider appointment to the parks and recreation advisory board and the historic preservation commission city manager Martinez. Manager Martinez. Thank you Mayor, good evening. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem and members of council, our Deputy City clerk will be presenting the item. Welcome Aaron. Employer of the year. City Manager Martinez. Thank you. Good evening Mayor Mayor Pro Tem and members of council. The historic preservation commission is recommending the Reappointment of Barbara human as a member of their board and the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board is recommending the Appointment of Quinten Cosh as an alternate of their board. Does anybody have any comments on those proposed appointees? If not, we'll have it before our setter next meet. I'm going to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council to ask the council Sounds good. We'll have it ready for next time. We will prepare a resolution and bring it to the next meeting. Thank you. Next. all-throated endorsement. Sounds good. We'll have it ready for next time. We will prepare a resolution and bring it to the next meeting. Thank you. Next, executed contract listing January and February of 2025. City Manager Martinez. Here to answer questions based on this will be our Finance Director Katrina Asher. Good evening, Council. Yes, your packet includes our list of executed contracts for January and February of this year. As a reminder, when we show a change order, the amount listed there is the new total of the contract, not the amount added in that change order. And this does not include purchases or contracts where the purchase order is acting as a contract. So straight goods purchases are usually done with purchase order. So those are not listed on here. This is just contracts. So, I'm happy to answer questions if you have any. Any comments or questions from council? Council member today. Oh, I thought you had your hand. May I put them? Just want to reiterate the thanks and the openness of having the report. I appreciate the completeness of it. There's some hefty projects in flight. It's nice to see that those are moving and in order. Thank you again for sustainability update and advisory board discussion, city manager Martinez. Thank you mayor. Leading this discussion tonight will be our sustainability coordinator Tracy McLean. Thank you. I'd also like to point out that Michael and I are wearing the same pants this evening. Everyone is so good. You're wearing a pink color pants. We have our Brighton pin too. I got a couple sizes bigger but it's our solidarity for sustainability. Yeah. Yeah. Unified front on the sustainability front. Yeah. All right. Well, good evening, Mayor Mayor Pro Tem and members of Council, it is great to be here with you this evening. So tonight I'm going to take you through a quick sustainability division update and then we're going to discuss the sustainability advisory board that will be proposing for 2025. Maybe. There we go. So quick rundown of the agenda. So first I will walk you through sustainability division, 2024 review, so just kind of go over some of the major accomplishments for 2024. Next, I will walk you through Sustainability Division 2025. Look ahead. They will provide you with an overview of some of the major projects that we're working on. Then I will jump into the Sustainability Advisory Board, give you a brief overview of the purpose and structure of the board, and then I'll leave room at the end for questions and feedback. All right. So jumping into the sustainability division 2024 review. So first and foremost, as all of you know, we unanimously passed the city's first sustainability plan on June 4th of 2024. That plan includes nine focus areas, 12 goals and 19 key performance indicators. The sustainability division will develop an annual report to let council know how the implementation of that plan is going on the anniversary of the adoption of that plan. Next, we distributed our first community-wide sustainability survey. And this was really important for us because this was the first time that we were able to collect data on how the community feels about sustainability, what their focus areas are, what their priorities are. If they had any areas of concern or there were any gaps in services, we were able to collect it with that survey. And as a reminder, we had about over 400 participants in that survey. We are also the first municipality to join the Charging Smart program. So many of you are familiar with SoulSmart, which is basically like a designation program for Solar. We have a gold SoulS designation. This is very similar to solar smart, except it is a designation program for EV readiness. So we have been working on that since June of last year and we anticipate that we will achieve our bronze designation by quarter two of 2025. Recently we just had a press release go out today actually. So speaking of dry clean Colorado we actually won the Community Leadership Award for 2024 for our participation in the charging smart program for our leadership on advancing clean transportation throughout the community. And then you've heard a lot about the St. Lay, Brighton St. Lay LED conversion project. We won the Sustainability Award through the American Public Works Association. We also hosted two EV events. One of them was open to staff, and it was at the Armory. We had lunch and learn and an EV ride and drive. And then we also hosted an EV showcase to anything library that was open to the public. And then we were also awarded the TaskBegrant, which is a technical assistance grant through the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment to help us advance our waste diversion efforts. All right, so this is not a complete list of what the sustainability division is working on in 2025, but it gives you some highlights into some of the major projects that we're working on. So we were accepted into the Excel partners in energy program. This is a program offered to communities that are within Excel territory. We are slightly in Excel territory with our natural gas, but we were accepted into the program. So we are going to be working on developing an energy action plan. This is a two year process where basically the first four to six months are dedicated to creating our energy action plan that will help us to kind of manage our energy and meet other goals that we have in our other action plans, including our comprehensive plan and our sustainability plan. And then they also offer us another year and a half of implementation support after that. We also got accepted into the energy for communities program through the National Renewable Energy Laboratory or NREL. So they are basically helping us conduct a fleet analysis right now to determine the best vehicles based off of different use cases to kind of help us figure out where EVs make sense in our fleet and how we can get the best return on investment for our vehicles. We were also accepted into the 2025 lead for cities cohort. So many of you have heard of the lead designation for buildings. This is a community wide lead designation that helps us take a deeper dive into our energy usage, our water usage, the state of our ecosystems. So this is about a year to a year and a half program where we'll be working on that designation. Sorry, my voice is going on a little bit tonight. And then we are also going to be working on ongoing waste diversion effort. So if you remember July of last year, we presented some recommendations to council for the best ways to increase recycling and recycling and composting services across the community. community, so we will be revisiting this with Council. Hopefully a little later next year, right now, we're trying to line up some consulting services to get some of those final recommendations across the finish line. We are also looking at expanding our EV charging station infrastructure at our city facilities for internal fleet use. We will be launching a newsletter for our sustainability distribution list and launching a quarterly sustainability coalition. And then we will also be looking implementing a sustainability advisory board this year. All right. So as you can see, we're working on quite a few things in 2025. So that's one of the purposes of the advisory board. So community engagement really is at the heart of how we have built the sustainability program for the community. So really the purpose that this board serves is kind of similar to what we see with our other advisory boards. Really they're there to kind of review and make recommendations on sustainability initiatives, provide leadership and education on sustainability initiatives. So we actually have quite a few people that work in sustainability and various sectors that live in the community now that are looking for ways to become more formally engaged in the sustainability work that we're doing. And it also creates a space where we can exchange ideas and develop strategies around some of these gaps and services that we're seeing with sustainability. Each of the members rather will have work plans that will include some of the projects that we saw in, that I pointed out to you in 2025. And like I said, it also demonstrates our ongoing commitment to community engagement. Roe Collick, Tracy, Councilmember today, I'll have a quick question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We and I... Oops, there we go. I thought I had it all. You and I spoke about quite a few things. One of the things that's really, I get a lot of residents that ask me about are the cardboard recycling. And I know you just talked about it, but you said not till next year. Is there, and I know you have a lot on your plate, a lot going on. That seems like a really long time. Well, it's so good question and- Did I not understand? Yeah, good question and so it's actually, so that bullet point where I said ongoing waste diversion efforts. So what I was mainly referring to there is the holler recycling ordinance and then a drop-off site that will be specific to a certain waste stream so that will likely be cardboard or yard waste. Yeah. And that'll be this year. That will be this year. As long as we can get consulting services which we're trying to go after right now. Okay. Awesome. Because I thought I heard 2026. So that's even better. Yes, thank you. Absolutely. Okay. So jumping into the structure of the sustainability advisory board, what we're proposing here is a seven member board that seven voting members that include two youth members. One council representative, non-voting. They must live within the city or have significant ties, meaning that this could be an organization, a member of an organization that operates within the city, or like an educational institution, for example, that has significant ties to the community. And then the terms will be structured as three or initial terms, and then they will be subject to annual reviews that will give us a little bit more agility in terms of maintaining people that are constructive members of the board and then being able to cycle out of members that are no longer participating in the board and then similar to our other boards they will have one meeting a month and they will have a staff appointed liaison, which would be me as Acting Secretary. All right, so next steps would just be feedback from Council and then approval to move forward with adoption of the ordinance. And then with that, I'll take questions. Turn it back over to the mayor. Thank you Tracy. Little questions. Councilmember Snider. Great presentation Tracy. I think you by the way doing a fantastic job. We've disagreed on a couple things, but you're very lighthearted and I appreciate you and I do think you're doing an amazing job. I just had one question on the board. I'm sure there's a good reason for it. I just want you to clarify it for me. The council member appointed to the board will be non-voting. Why is that? There are typically non-voting because you will vote on it as a council member when I bring it to it. When I bring it in front of council. Yeah. All right. Next. Mayor put them. Thanks, Tracy. Just excited about this program. Very definitely thrilled by the things that we've accomplished. And how much is on your list. It's amazing to me how much you're able to do by what I would consider leadership by example, servant leadership. You don't have a staff of 20 people doing this. You are convincing every other department director and peers in all of those departments to participate in making these things advance. So that's tremendous and I'm really pleased with how far this program has come in this period of time. I think that when we talked about an advisory board a year ago, it was really too fresh at that point. We weren't ready to know what do you need of an advisory board and what's the purpose because we don't have very many advisory boards as a city. We keep that for the things that are our top priorities and the things that mean the most. And I think that's the threshold. That's the bar that we've come to now. It's time for us, as a city council, to say this is one of our top priorities. It's not a leftist green activity. It is what is the sustainability? What is the reuse of our top priorities. It's not a leftist green activity. It is what is the sustainability? What is the reuse of our city? What is the best way to keep moving forward and honor physically what we have and not just build and abandon and move away from? So I think that we're at that time and creating this board is a statement of sustainability being one of our top priorities as a city and as a city council. So I feel differently from the way I did when you came with this request a year ago. I think that it's time. I think we're ready for that. And I think that it's right. I'm a little bit confused by the ordering of bullets and one of the pages and maybe I'm just being pedantic, but the one that talks about the structure of the council, it's all of the council members, the seven who need to live within the city or have ties, not just the city council representative, right? Yes, that's correct. And then the three-year term, generally we appoint the city council person for the two years associated with the term and not necessarily on a three-year basis. So as long as we still have the flexibility to have the mayor appoint at the beginning of each new council. Yes, that's correct. Okay, then I think we're okay. There, one of the examples that I would give of the importance that comes from having a board that can give you guidance and and and set priorities is we had an opportunity with a brand new MSC. We should have been chasing lead compliance with our new building that was the first thing we had built in ages and the first opportunity to put sustainability forward as one of our priorities and maybe if we had had this board in place we would have made that a little bit more important. I'm sad that we missed that opportunity on that building. The other thing I would notice probably more tongue in cheek than anything else but we have of signs in front of parking spaces in front of the MSC for electric parking and really we have a couple of city managers who park their large SUVs. Non-guess efficient SUVs in the electric car charging spaces that can't be used for charging. So there are still opportunities for us to move forward and use some of those things properly. All of that is to say yes, we should form this board, we should put that together and I'm supportive of making that happen when I come back before council. So thank you for all the work on this. I think those SUVs identified as a plug-in or something, right? Council member Green. Thank you, Mayor. Until the charger is there, it's not an electric charging space. It may have a sign, but if the charger is not there, it can't be designated an electric charging space. I have a couple questions back on the structure there. The seven voting members. It may have a sign, but if the charge is not there, it can't be designated in electric charging space. I have a couple of questions back on the structure there. The seven voting members, including the two youth members, does that mean you're gonna allow the two youth members to vote? Yes, it does. And then do you have an age limit to decide for those voting members? Yeah, we're thinking 16 to 18 or 15 to 18 just so that it gives them enough time to be able to serve for the full three year term. Okay, again, I wanted to make sure there's at least an age minimum because I wouldn't want an eight year old as a voting member of this sustainability committee. And again, I struggle with that one because that's nearly 30% of your voting members and your committee would be not a voting age politically. So I I'm still struggling with that one. I'm not against this committee. I like how you've designed it and again A lot of those annual reviews. So if there's people that aren't participating or can't make these monthly meetings It's no sense to keep reserving spaces for them. So I appreciate that. I'm for this. I'm just struggling with voting youth members, especially when it's that much of a committee. All right. Anybody else? Council member Worth? Thank you, Mayor. Tracy, going back to the youth members is on a lot of our committees and commissions, they are strictly from the right and youth commission. Is that the rule you're following, or are you being expected in Tanya to put people out there, or that board, or are you opening it up to the general public? Well, we would like to open it up to 27J as well. So they don't necessarily have to be on the Youth Commission. Correct. You're just saying students that live in Brighton. Correct. Okay. Anybody else? I don't see any negative direction, so proceed as directed. Thank you so much. Okay. Have a good night. Thank you. Next is the project update and contract amendment for Bridge Street, widening and utility infrastructure project. City Manager Martinez, we have some news tonight. Thank you Mayor. Yes, we have news tonight. So as we near completion of this project, I thought it would be important to give you a quick update on where we are on the project. This has been an interesting project. As you all know, it was something that was needed to be done probably 10 years ago, but as a new city manager, this is a project that I picked up right away. And we've learned a lot of lessons throughout the time here in this project, but ultimately we're at the end of it. And I think it's going to be a fantastic project once it's complete and to give you more about that is the team tonight. So I'll turn it over to Director LeBrie to introduce our guests. All right. Good evening. Mayor Mayor Pro Temp and City Council. Today I'm joined of course with Christopher Montoya, who's the project manager for Bridge Street. We have the engineer record Eric Lee and the construction management team, Philip Miller and Michelle. Chris will be presenting a slide deck tonight and we have the team members here to be able to answer any questions that you may have after our presentation. It's important to note that we are in the final phases of construction and we anticipate that the newly improved bridge street will be done around the July, August timeframe. So while Christopher has been a face of bridge street, I want to acknowledge the many other dedicated staff members that have participated in this project. Joseph Werta, Joseph Leon and Ryan Monard have been key members of staff who really participated in this construction process and offered guidance to the team. Additionally, we have received outstanding support from the utility department. We are grateful to Scott Olson and his team for their expertise and guidance addressing the challenges we've encountered with the new water line and the storm water facilities that were installed on a part of this project. So without further due I'll turn it over to Chris and have him do the presentation. Good evening Mayor Mayor Poxayma members of council you already were introduced to project team. We also did have budget here and utilities. Oh, thank you for the generosity of coming tonight to answer any other questions. We'll go over a quick project update, our contract amendment details, the financials of the project, and then our recommendations. It's a little history back about the project, if you recall, this was presented before. It's about a 1.3 miles of total project work. It was actually an additional almost around a mile of storm sewer that was offside as well. This is over 300,000, 330,000 square feet of roadway pavement. We have four brand new traffic signals. Those are shorn at the different locations as well as replacement of an existing one that's marked in blue. And then there was a box culvert structure that was revised by extending it, wasn't wide enough to accommodate the roadway widening. The addition of a water line, as well as improvements to a regional pond, and then the regional storms, who are regional storms who are itself does serve beyond just the project. It was a final storm sewer connection for the region. Here's the limits of the project. About 22nd to 42nd Avenue. Give you an update where we are today. We're at about 80% completed with the project. Time elapsed is about 80%. Waterline is 100% completed. The storm sewer is like 97. We got 100 in like 50 feet alas pipe to complete. Concrete's about 80% done. They've been working on the medians. If you notice them out there, final tie-ins with concrete. The box cover is 100% completed. Traffic signals about three quarters of the way done. They're working on one of the last signals that they have to wreck still and activate. As well as the asphalt being around 60%. Medians had just started a while back so they're under halfway completed right now. Medians also have landscaping the goes, rock, plants, trees. For the final remaining items that are left, the median constructions targeted and these are rough numbers to give you an idea around 30 days. They once the median's are completed, they finally can commence their landscaping. They'll take about 60. When they're all done with the project, they'll have around 30 days of erosion instead of stabilization. Real quick, Christopher, we've got a quick question. Merit. This is how many days are left of that activity, or this is the total. This will be each activity has so many days associated with some activities or concurrent, meaning they'll go at the same time. So don't like add them up. No, I get that. Is it 30 days of median construction total or 30 days remaining? 30 days remaining approximately. Okay. Thank you. The landscaping hasn't started, so it'd be a total of 30 days remaining? 30 days remaining approximately. Okay, thank you. The landscaping hasn't started, so it'd be a total of 30 days. Okay. Once they're done with the landscaping, they'll basically pave the roadway, stripe it, and that'd be the final work efforts with the other items will be pond grading and completing a ditch crossing as well. Council member green, say those days you're like Monday through Friday correct so. Some Saturdays if it's authorized work and then if you're talking like is it a weekday count yes it'd be working days generally. And these are just rough estimates. Give you an idea of how long each activity has left remaining to address your question. Thank you. Yeah, I would have asked if I were looking at a draft for a clearer way of showing, do I need to add all of these days together to come up with that? Which of these could be concurrent? Which of these have dependencies on each other? This is a hard way to look at this particular slide and understand what's the remaining duration. And count some member, Fiddler. Thank you, Mayor. Christopher, do you have a Ganttard? I did put one together. It was really wide for this. Yeah, but that to Mayor Portem is a point that would be helpful. Sure. Yeah. Thank you. For our contract amendment, the items that we're adding for a contract amendment requesting would be United Power, Design and Construction. That work typically would be paid directly to United Power. In order to accelerate the project, we had already obtained contracts for construction. And we asked the contractor to proceed with payment to United Power. For original Pond grading and modifications, this is part of our property negotiations. We needed to utilize a private pond. It's about an eight acre pond. Adela's negotiations, it was determined to do additional scope of work for essentially bringing the pond into compliance and extending beyond our small area of work. Our ditch crossing that currently is a proposal, almost 21 feet deep. The ditch crossing would be modified to a bore operation. We also added the 40th Avenue widening, this is south of Bridge Street. Development had came in during the course of our construction project and we do want to leave a gap between basically the firehouse and where the developer finished so we wanted to extend the pavement and complete that connection as well. The course going through the project we actually had almost seven miles of total underground work that included work associated with underground electrical for new street lights, storm sewer and water line and as you can imagine imagine, there's so many unknowns underground that we did run into a number of different conflicts. During the design phase, we do do surface utility investigations. You actually pothole, identify, survey, and utilities. Granny, you're also working in the unknown. And it's difficult to identify every item underground. And give you an example of some of the common utility conflicts you'll come across. So both like storm sewers and sanitary lines, they have to maintain their grades. We were installing like one and a half to almost three miles of storm sewer pipe. And so it has to stay at its planned elevations. Is it any time we come across like a water line that's in conflict or a communications line they have to be relocated and so they'll cut out a water line go over a pipe under a pipe we do have some old infrastructure underground so on occasion we'll have some hazmat material that needs to be removed as well and then there's certain procedures and processes. Here's an example. If you look at the top right, it shows a waterline that had been replaced and then down in the bottom left. There's a hazmat crew removing an existing waterline and restoring the crossing so that the storm sewer can actually cross that area. We find lots of stuff underground. This one was really interesting. It's another one of those random things you come across. It was a chunk of concrete about the size of an excavator. It actually took two different excavators to excavate the chunk of concrete. And they spent several days preparing the hull off the material. And it was directly in conflict of one of our storm sewer pipes. As we work with the ditch company, we submitted our plans. We were already under contract and additional requirements were requested to the ditch company, which are in benefit to us too because we have a structure that crosses a ditch. For the ditch company, we did add an additional apron on the front of each of the wing walls. That prevents erosion to the structure, prevents deterioration of it, which we're responsible to maintain, as well as some other additional requirements. For the ditch crossing, for a boring operation or open cut, either way we had to meet certain criteria as well, which did add additional project cost that we didn't anticipate, which we found as we went through the construction of the project. We took a strategy to actually begin construction prior to right-of-acquisitions. As we did negotiate with each of the property owners, we would have requests for additional requirements in order to acquire that property, such as driveway modifications or making slide alterations. Those property negotiations did result in changes to the plans as well and directives to incorporate those changes into the plans. Out of all the properties, there's about 19, 20 properties. We secured all of them except for one. If you actually drive down the corridor, you'll notice the sidewalk all of a sudden comes really tight to the curb, and it's a little narrower. A property owner did not want to sell their property under any terms and conditions. Strategically, we knew we could widen the road no matter what, and worst case, we could always go back and put sidewalks later, which is why we took this approach. Out of all the properties we did secure, the one we did it, we still were able to actually squeeze a sidewalk in, making it so we could still maintain ADA compliance and a regional sidewalk connection in this area. Brighton does have a lot of sandy soils. As they would excavate, we did start having collapsing soils. The roadway would start to cave in. Here's an example where they're just trying to put in the storm line. And you can see where the roadways cave in off to the side of the structure. So it's the big chunks, the soil caves, the roadway itself gives. We don't, we can't leave the materials like that. We have to actually prepare the roadway further, additional backfill materials. It just creates additional work. There's a, it's a little difficult to see, but there's what you would call a trench box on the bottom left corner. You can actually see that the dirt's missing under the roadway. So you'll have to actually remove additional asphalt to restore the earthwork underneath that supports the roadway. One of the challenges of the project was crossing Bridgery. This is where one of our last hundred and approximately 50 feet or so a pipe is. So they did the weekend, the work over a weekend and this is when we closed Bridgetree down and I commend Brandon for putting together a team to the extent that we actually had to have a emergency evacuation team there because of how deep the excavations were. In fact I had never seen a roadway and cave-ins occur so quickly the first night I went there, it was just a crack in the road by the next night, it opened up. And then by the next day, the road actually caveed in over double the size of what it was anticipated. The crews had to use a shoring mechanism to basically create as much stability as they can so they can get working down in this excavation, which was almost 20 feet a little shallower, which is why we've elected to want to use a bore operation under the ditch instead of sending crews 21 feet, which is even deeper You could see at the nighttime when they had crossed the road and then the really deep you can see the guys down in the trench I mean this is about 1819 feet and they're showing that they're doing to try to protect the guys down in the trench. I mean this is about 18-19 feet and they're showing that they're doing to try to protect the guys down in there. This was amazing that they actually did complete the work over the weekend and did it all in about 72 hours. So they ran two crews 24-7. The bore operation doesn't require as much of this. You set pits and they'll be able to bore across the ditch and do this in a relatively short duration of I don't remember how long it was month or two. But we want to send guys down in trenches like this. Other things you find would be a number of structures, these are sanitary manholes, they basically allow access to clean the pipes and stuff. As they excavated them, they found that they actually had to reconstruct a lot of these structures. Otherwise, they'd be right and conflict of where the roadways trying to be widened. And so to get them in the appropriate configuration, they had to rebuild them. There were several different structures along the south side of the project that they had to remodify. And these would just be some additional examples of like structure modifications that are necessary once you dig them up. There's a aerial of the regional pond. This pond was always intended to function generally as a regional storm sewer. Piece of land. The part we needed to work on was highlighted and read it was just a corner was this tie-ins And it allowed the water to come through be cleaned for storm water requirements and then exit the project again in order for Us to acquire access to this property and perform this work. It was a negotiation that we would correct the entire pond The most the every UC and gray is where the additional scope of work would be necessary. It's mostly grading and getting it to drink correctly, as well as adding some drainage infrastructure so that all the additional water inflows into that pond function. More appropriately to current design standards and regulations. I do want to give a little project background on the statistics, the finances. So this project was originally bid several years ago. We had been designed, or not several, two years ago. We've been on design for several, about three years ago or so. When we put out the construction bid, we were trying to rush to meet our strategy of accelerating the project. There was a lot of inflation incurring. And so we did have a constraint of a budgetary allotment and we decided to be really tight on the project. So I intentionally put 2.5% contingency in the project. It put us right about where we estimated the project cost would be taking a position that we would be able to navigate a lot of the project challenges. One of our low bids was actually 20% less than the high bid, and we did actually negotiate even 20% below the low bid for the actual construction contract. So we ended up at a 19.5 where the original low bid was 25.5 million. This was to meet most of the project budgetary constraints. We also wanted to accelerate with the design where we were at construction right away, which led us to doing the concurrent right away acquisition. This could have taken a year, but in that environment, we wanted to move the project as fast as possible, and essentially capture locked-in pricing for the project and achieve the success of completing this project. We did see a risk for construction inflation, and the faster we could award a contract, would mitigate that risk as well. Under actual budget versus cost as of right now we're only within about a 5% variation. Currently where our total estimated contract costs sits we would still sit around 10-20% below the lowest bid at the time which was modified and lowered through scope negotiations and reduction of that scope to lower that price down. To understand the project, as I mentioned, there was a lot of utility work incorporated. We wanted to put a waterline in before the road is completed. That waterline was installed, it makes up about 7% of the project. The storm sewer was a key element to to the project. This Stormsower system is regional. As I stated, it doesn't serve just this project. It'll actually promote development along the corridor as well, now that they'll have drainage infrastructure to tie into. That made up around 28% of the project, and the remaining balance to 65% is all transportation-related elements. Most transportation elements I broke down into approximate percentages of the project. You'll see the asphalt does make up a majority of the portion, concrete, and traffic signals make up the remaining majority. And we have stuff like demolition and all the other components. To give a big picture of what we're asking for the contract to. United Power, the design and construction, we chose to put all brand new electrical and street lights as it's a brand new roadway and existing lighting did not meet current standards or regulations. This was not a part of the original contract. This is a contracted mechanism through United Power that we had the contract to pay to accelerate that process of not having to go through different routes of approvals and reviews of plans where they can build it straight into the project. One of their first payments was made straight to United Power as they were mobilizing, which allowed United Power to accelerate their design and right away acquisition, which was amazing. They did a lot of this in like three months. For the regional pond improvements, that was through negotiations of the property access. That added around 680,000, and sorry, the United Power added around 763,000. The current ditch crossing that we have in order to get across that ditch, me all the ditch requirements as well as the mechanism we're choosing to do is around a half a million dollars. The final items were things like that we showed you pictures of the concrete underground. having modifications to the utility infrastructure, mitigating unknowns that we were unaware of, and that was 915,000 for the field and design notifications, design changes, and for the field and design notifications Design changes and then the utility infrastructure modifications of around 300,000 We did find around 225,000 dollars of savings in the projects as we progressed through Leaving us with a grand total contract amendment of around $2,933,000 Our recommendation will end up being to award or accept the contract amendment in the amount of $2,933,000. That would bring the total contract amount for this construction project of around $23,882,000 in 84. That still is within that 5% allocation that we had planned for. And we do have sufficient funds that exist in our current budget with a budget amendment. With that, I think it would be a good time if you'd like to ask any questions. I did bring our construction project manager, Philip Miller from Brandon, as well as our engineering team from JR engineering, and we have Eric Lee and Michelle that can also help ask her any questions as well. Well, Christopher, we do appreciate the comprehensive presentation, and I do sympathize. It's hard to predict what the projects are going to cost, especially with inflationary challenges we've had over the last few years. But before I go on to questions from the council, I just want to comment real quick. So you're estimating the completion now out to July, August timeframe. Is that correct? Did I hear that early in the presentation? That's where we're currently estimated at. And then what we'll end up doing is opening the roadway. And there'll be like, for instance, the pond work, it wasn't included in the roadway. So they can do that work while the roadway is open. It's completely off the roadway. Is that the July, August timeframe? It is reclaiming that. I would be open by July August. Okay. So we broke ground on this summer of two years ago. And at the time, we told the residents, you know, 18 months, and then that kind of got pushed into well sometime early in 25. And then later, where you've been putting on social media, hey, it's going to be, you know, by Q2, it's going to be done. And now we're going into Q3. And so, I mean, honestly, I would have rather promised the residents two years from the top, then go around and dance around an 18-month dream here. And so we need to consider that, especially as we go into future infrastructure projects on what I know it's hard to predict every challenge, but I'd rather would have said two years and it's done in 20 months, then to go 18 months and it's done in 26 months. So I challenge you to find a way to get us closer to that timeline. Also, by the way, the pictures on the slides were great, but it's hard to see. So I would rather have had you put four slides together with the individual pictures than cram them all into one. Because I mean, I had to go into my device here and focus in real quick to actually see these pictures. And so, and then we're talking to another $3 million. And that's a big pill, this wallow. And I mean, I know we can find the money and do that. And that's great and all, but we do. In the future, I know we got other, like I said, we have other infrastructure challenges coming ahead with other projects but I would have rather have said a higher figure and then say, hey, we got under budget then to go this route. So that's just my comments on this so far. So Mayor put them. Okay, so I'm trying to figure out the balance of the dollars in my head because you said we're looking at a 5% overage but $3 million is closer to 15% of the original $20 million. So how much are we over budget? There's a budget allocation we had for the project that was around, I want to say it was 22.8 million. And then our contract total for completing the all the different components of the project, put us around the 23 million range. So it's not a construction contract. It's of the budget allocation that we had. So we're within 5% of the budget allocation approximately. OK, but then the construction contract is so. So carrying over the budget of what we thought it was going to be several years from now, we're looking at a contract change that's closer to 15% than it is 5%. And the industry standard for changing our minor contract revisions that you build on contingencies would be around 10 to 15%. I had allocated only to that was going to be my next point here is I've watched enough home and garden TV to know that you never cut your contingency allocation to 2.5%. So I'm a bit surprised that we went that route because what I remember our messaging being was get this done. And honestly, I believe I heard things to the point of we really don't care what it costs. Don't wait for this grant. Get this project done. So I'm a little surprise that we're coming in at the 11th hour with. Yeah, yeah, when now we need another $3 million to get this done and we didn't tell you until now and we promised you all of these savings two years ago and now we're gonna come back for that same money. It's not really savings so There's a bitter taste to this we have to do it. There's not gonna be a choice We need to finish this project. We need to do it right our original allocation from two and a half years ago or two years ago was probably more accurate than our negotiated contract. We shouldn't have been thinking that we had saved that money because now I'm thinking what had we then in our heads in the last two years reallocated that $3 million towards doing. We have about $4 million that we put into maintenance over the course of the year. And our request when we did the budget was, can't we find a little bit more money to do a little bit more maintenance? Well, now I'm seeing $3 million having to come out of somewhere else, which probably means a little bit less maintenance of some of the existing roads. So again, I don't mind that we need to complete this project. I just wish we had known more as we were going along. Hey, this is what we're encountering. We've hit some of these challenges. We need to use the full allocation amount. The contingency that we put together in that time frame isn't working as well as we thought we did. And so what's coming to my head out of all of that is on our big projects, we, we, the sign an owner's rep for that purpose. Is there a reason on this project we didn't create a role of an owner's rep to, to fulfill that purpose and look and say, hey, these things are not going according to this or we are going to have to dig into the original allocation. There's a contract change that we could have made. We knew these things were happening a year ago, not last week. So it feels that we aren't as on top of this one as we. We could have been or or should have been. and maybe we thought we were going to be able to negotiate our way out of some of these expenses at some point or another. But when we build a project, we anticipate worst case scenario, not assuming that everything is going to work. Again, the home and garden thing, there's going to be nob and tube wiring in the old house. So there's going to be aluminum wiring in the 1970s house. When we built right now it's a 27th and put bridge street together. I'm certain there were things that we cut corners on then or crammed too much stuff into the space and it was going to come back to bite us eventually and like asbestos pipes. Yeah, now it's here. So given that we're on this year's budget and the contract change is happening against what the contract was, not what the allocation was several years ago, this is a 15% cost change. It's not a 5% cost change. We don't have a choice. We're gonna have to go along with the 15% cost change. We need to get the project done. Yes, there are things like the stupid pond at Fesent Ridge that apparently never was designed correctly. And now it's our problem to fix. That's part of the D.H.I. problem. That's part of our problem. We all have to fix that particular one. Fine. I think we need to take the lesson and I'll stare at our city manager staff as we're doing this on big projects like this. We're going to have to have somebody take accountability and represent us in that. Some of these things go outside of our area of expertise. That's why we're hiring experts in that arena. So when we look at $20 million projects like we do at our $160 million and dollar projects, we need to bring the professional in to look at those components. Okay, all of that is the big stuff. Now I've got one stupid little question that's the north side of 27th and bridge at that intersection. I see the concrete work, I see the path going on, but I see a sudden cliff and a wall and an end. Are we completing that sidewalk on the north side across 27th? What's your answer? Yes, sir, we are. That's just the access to our staging area. Okay, you're talking about that. That's perfectly good answers. We've got heavy equipment going, rocks there, and we don't want to put the sidewalk in yet and break it before we finish the project. That's fine. I was just trying to figure out that our people are suddenly going to have flying wheelchairs that go over the top of that one. Or do we have a plan or something that's coming in there? I'll give a camera up for that. I didn't know what was going to happen suddenly. suddenly cross over to the south side and then come back over. Okay. In any case, and in response to I didn't know what was going to happen suddenly. It crossed over to the south side and then come back over. Okay. In any case, in response to the project question, we don't have a choice. We're going to have to find $3 million, so it can have stretches out. And something else is going to follow off the table in order to make that happen. But fortunately, finding that $3 million in the project is not my specific job. is just to say finish British Street and we'll take our lumps and pay a little bit more for it. Thanks. Before I continue questions, I want to ask City Manager something. Do we have a policy where if a certain project has certain complexities or hits a certain dollar amount that we should be putting together and a bid for an owner's rep. It's a great question. We technically don't have a policy. However, I think when it comes to lessons learned, that is something that we will absolutely consider for every project of really anything above $15 million at this point. I think that if you look at the two projects that have been completed or about to be completed, the MSC and this project, I mean, it's obvious that there is a benefit to having an owner's rep for many reasons. And in this project, as was mentioned, we kind of picked this up at a time where it had been contemplated for years, right? And we had to get this project done. So I think hindsight in that case, if we had it to do over again, we would have probably gone a different route, especially with having an owners rep. But yeah, that's a lesson learned in this case, is that an owners rep has value for projects like this and even projects smaller than this. And you see that with the Rec Center project that we're undertaking now, we do have an owners rep for that. Yeah, I think we need to have a policy of certain complexities or a dollar amount, bring that back to us so we can approve some sort of a policy for the future. I think that would be beneficial for councils and management beyond the people at this desk or this circle today. Happy to do that. Thank you. Thank you. Council member Green. Thank you, Mayor Augustine, and defense of our public works department. They are a victim of what we made them to. We basically said get this done on the fly. Things weren't all locked in. There was contingencies that happened. And so I'm defending you guys. I, you guys did a great job. You're still doing a great job with what we charged you to do, which is to start on this thing before we had everything locked down, before we knew exactly what we were getting ourselves into. You never know when you're going to find a giant chunk of concrete somewhere or you're going to run into a water line. You're going to run into a utility line that's not there. And in your defense, we are still under the original low bid. Even with this, we are still under the original low bid. We could go home with a higher bid. We would be, could have been in much worse trouble. So again, I understand that we don't have a choice, but I, I defend what you guys have done. My only question is, is that's a real dark stretch. One are those street lights going to be on. I mean, it is really dark and even the existing ones are off now and so I'm just kind of wondering when we'll be able to see Blaming out of power, Blaming out of power. I mean, it is really dark and even the existing ones are off now and so I'm just kind of wondering when we'll be able to see Let me not a power. Let me not a power. We're working through that process. We've been told three to four weeks, but United Power works on their time. There you go. Really. We asked them. We asked them. Last summer to finish their scope. So. We asked them, we asked them. Last summer to finish their scope. So I think we're having a good conversation. And I will say one of the things I struggled with with this project, and when we ran into different situations that we knew was impacting the scope, how often do we come and present that to council? And so, you know, do you do it every old grant to Big Rock to do that. And I'm not just impacting the scope. How often do we come and present that to to counsel? And so, you know, do you do it every? Oh, we ran to a big rock is adding another. You know, how often do we come? And I guess I struggle with it. And I haven't directed Chris. Just keep notes. We got records of how all these different encounters we made. So that as we got seems late and I know it seems like a hard build a swallow, but that's one of the things I struggle with. Do we come at every single instance when we run into a situation that's gonna impact scope and come to you at that time, especially, and I didn't realize quite frankly that the contingency was 2.5. Thought we had more than that, quite frankly. So, but with that all being said, I did struggle with how often do we come before you in this type of situation. And it's good to hear the feedback. We're still on my question period. I'm going to claim anyway. More often than this and with smaller dollar figures than this, I mean three times with a million dollars, we would say, okay, what are we missing? Where's the big planning? But $3 million, four months left to go on the project, on a two year project, is too late. Okay. Good. And big projects like this, we just need big updates. Like the water treatment plan, we get about a quarterly update on that. Something like this would have been nice to know during our scheduled quarterly update if we had that. And some of the pictures didn't become clearer to late, especially to pond that pond thing. We just finalized that agreement, which was a big hit. But somebody didn't come to late in the process as well as we got a clearer picture of what the impacts were. Council Member Ploskey. Thank you, Mayor. Well, I want to just echo what Council Member Ploskey. Thank you Mayor. Well I want to just echo what the Councilmember Green said. Wow. You've done a great job. I mean this is a huge project. We had no, we can't see underground. It's not amazing. We just can't see it. We don't know what's there. But anyway I think you guys it's lessons learned as we're going forward is what I would call it. But anyway, I appreciate what you've done. And at the same time, I'm gonna ask my two council members from Ward 4. I think Eastgate is in your ward, correct? Well, I think you guys have done a disservice to your residence there, that you didn't ask for another in and out left and right east and west besides just the one I think there should have been two but even at that with because of all of the units that are there we need to be looking with our fire department our police department whoever we need to create another exit in and out as my belief. And since I used to represent it word for back in the day, I wanted to throw that out there to my two council members that we need to think about that. We need to do what's better and safer for the residents living there. a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not going to be a person. I'm not we won't be concerned about people, squatters coming in there and who knows what can be done. So anyway, I just wanted to throw that out as possibly an idea going forward. So thank you very much. That part is a little off topic, but I don't know if you want to comment on that. I mean, it is the next big road project. So there is a segue there. I'll let them, I don't know the answer to that. So I'll turn it over to the staff that does. It's currently being used by our PD and our SWAT team. But just a process for demolition is you, it's gonna be over a dollar amount that we would just call somebody. So you have to put out RFP, what's RFP's done in the contract? It goes to solicitation, contractor would be selected and they'd proceed the demolition. At one point in time, our internal operations department, which I'm not sure if they're gonna have adequate times, would have enjoyed to have the opportunity to do a house demolition. I actually had the opportunity once to be an excavator and knock down a two car garage and it was probably one of the funnest things I've done in my career. So I wanted to make sure they still had the opportunity to do that if they got the chance to. There are certain processes and requirements for carrying down a home and meeting the requirements to do so though. But yeah, as pointed out, PD were using it and I think once we get word that is no longer be used, we will take the action to appropriate action and get it demolished But they were just here last week doing some exercises so yeah, okay That's a member filler Thank you mayor Christopher some just some clarity right and know that I'm coming at this on your side too because it's so much fun to put time energy Let's went and tears into a project and have folks critique your work. Okay, super fun I hear you say yet to an a percent of contingency I also hear you say that you're one underneath that that 20% little bit so in the end this project is within budget true or false so we had a we're slightly over on on existing budget allocations meaning we'll pull from different projects the actual budget allocation that we had we're within 5% and that's including all the additional changes as well as scope extensions that were never included in the construction contract. That helps answering so 5% over or under 5% over the budget allocation that we had and under the lowest bid, the bid ranges were 25 to 33 million dollars and we'd be finishing underneath that 25 million. If I were you, the next time I'd use all that space between where you think you are and that low bit is your contingency and then we wouldn't throw rocks at you. But again, it's lessons learned guys. I'm proud of the work. I will tell you that my experience in building things, if you're building from scratch, it's super easy. When you're doing demo and renovation, which I consider this all to be, you never know what you're going to uncover, right? So proud of the work that I've seen happen on bridge long overdue. It's going to be done excited to have that done and excited about stable that other house across the streets for sale. You probably know that. Okay. You're out. You're out. You're already on that. But just kudos to you again. It's all about continuous improvement. Think about how you would budget that next time. Mayor Pro Tem mentioned before I'd love to see a Gantt chart because I'm still not sure when we're going to be done done. But kudos to you and the team. Congratulations and it's good to be at the finish line here. And I'm having some fun with my fellow council members. And another thing you should have thought of is it's hard. It's hard work, appreciate the effort. And again, anytime you're doing a demo of this size, which I consider this to be, you don't have any idea which you're going to find to be congratulations to all of you. And I have to give credit to lots of the construction team. Brandon's over 100 year old company, excellent contractor to work with. He's a design engineering firm that's been able to help them persist a long way. We have actually construction inspections that are being conducted, conducted by them to help because we just don't have the team internally to do all these inspections. I mean we've had people out there continuously. I can't remember my total man hours. I estimated at one point. There's a lot of people working on this project and we couldn't have done it without them. I think even Brandon at one point had over I don't know 13 piece, 10, 10 pieces of equipment, I'll probably several millions of dollars of equipment and crews that we don't have at Internal As a City. So it's taken a lot of resources to get where we are today. Okay, Councilmember Snyder. Thank you. I too appreciate the job you've done. I'm really excited about it being open. But as long as we're on the topic, I just have to ask Do we now have or are we solicitating for an owner's rep for sale? We're not quite there yet. We're still we're still writing design phase now, but we're getting close. We will. That 100% should have it. Okay. Lesson's learned. Council member, Worth. Thank you, Mayor. I just got a couple basic questions because I think I came onto this thing at the halfway point and just trying to catch up on some of the basics. You're talking about widening that we're doing some of the widening of 40th. Will that eventually be reimbursed to us when a developer comes in there and it is responsible for that area typically? So during planning processes, we input on projects and we can request reimbursons. One of the property negotiations we indicated they wouldn't have to pay for the small portion of widening along their frontage and the basis for that was we bought the land significantly cheaper. So it was a tradeoff right less dollars out today. We pay for it now. You don't have to pay for it in the future or we would have paid more money for the land and then they'd reimbursement when they developed it was in our best All right, that actually could be an opportunity. So I'm a rookie here. I'm just learning all this stuff. With the pond work you're doing, I know you're happy to be talking about that. Is that going to make it so we don't have to block off? Tell you ride every time it rains? We're hoping. I'll make it I'm going to make this quick give a quick background. There wasn't drainage infrastructure with a lot of development. That pond was designed at the original time as a retention pond, which mainly has the water has nowhere to go. And so it would flow the roadway. This is now a retention pond connecting all the way to the regional system and would resolve those issues. Yeah, okay. Converting a retention to a detention pond, which should drain within the three days. Okay, good good. Because that's, good good. Because every time a range during the spring, it's good. Exactly. So hopefully it's gonna look like at the Tenchupon Long Bromley, that developed there, a long Bromley, which is an open space almost, it should look something like that. Where you don't early see any water in it. Right, right, awesome. Awesome. And that's it. I think, thank you very much. Before bounces off to round two, I don't know if Council member Tadeo has anything else, and she's the only one that has spoken, if not, we're good. That's it. I think thank you very much. Before I bounce this off to round two. I don't know if councilman or today. Oh, is anything else? Is she the only one that has spoken they thought we're good? Okay Mayor pro tem since I'm the jerk tonight Not a lack of appreciation for the work. I think it's incredible. I think it's important work I think that Sometimes lessons learned are things that we could have thought about in advance. I do, it, DHI Telluride has mattered us for what we made them do as part of that pond work and part of that drainage work back around to, so it's multiple big projects that were impacted by that pond on the corner of Feasant Ridge. But rather than have Lake Chavis on the south side, it's good to get that taken care of now. I just wanted to comment on the piece for the exit for Eastgate because this is something we did discuss and something we talked about is that limiting the number as we're doing this widening and trying to make sure the bridge street is the through street and is the primary arterial for the city, we wanted to minimize the number of unsignaled interruptions out into the street. So it was intentional to direct Eastgate out through one exit. I think it's safer for doing so. However, Councilman Poloski is correct. We do need another exit out of Eastgate and one of those suggestions that we've made a couple of times that really has to be addressed with the landowner and they have to address it when they have the right vacancies and the properties. I think the proper second exit out of Eastgate is actually westbound onto 27th. And I know those conversations have started and have been indicated, but that also involves when are those properties vacant or where did they arrange some of the RV storage to make that happen. There does need to be a second exit out and exiting to the east into the H. I. I. I. I. I. It would not work because of the the ditch that's there. So figuring out the right exit for Eastgate is on our minds, but the safety, entering and exiting was also a primary concern. And thanks. There's a challenging to address, but we gotta address it nonetheless. I'll join, I do appreciate your work. It's constructive criticism as important to. Thank you for this episode of Good Copyup, bad copy you know, but sometimes we gotta do that, right? City manager Martinez. I personally appreciate the Good Cop bad cop. You guys would change roles sometimes, but no, just kidding. Honestly, I do appreciate that because without that type of feedback, I don't necessarily take it as you being a jerk or you being pejorative for any of that. Honestly, we need to know your concerns, right? Because we are at a point where we are going to be doing a lot of these projects. We have another very large project coming up that rivals the size of this if not bigger. So all the lessons that we can learn and all the feedback that we can gather from you and hear your concerns because you represent our citizens, the better off we are. So I actually appreciate the level of concern that you have about these things because it makes us better with our future projects. I also wanna just mention that Deputy City Manager Falcaburri has been working with the Eastgate folks. Been a little challenging. We'll just say that and he can talk about it. Just briefly, you're correct. We identify, I'm a little very frustrated with Eastgate. They're owned by a big group out of Michigan. Talk directly to them, gave them a plan, and they had the opportunity to connect a road to Firehouse. They refused it very strongly and I mean we don't have any leverage. We need leverage. It's been there since the 70s. So I don't know if we need to work through the attorney's office or what's next, but normally leverage comes up and we utilize that. It can be done with only at that point and that was a couple of years ago when we talked with them. They only had to lose one lot, and that lot was vacant. So I'm quite frustrated with that group. I talked, there's a 93 year old gentleman that I talked to, and he's just like, nope, the owners will never do it. They won't do it. So, yeah. I don't know how we get them here. We they've never seen them there Yeah, so I think we need to probably put our all of our heads together and figure out collectively how to get leveraged and Make it happen But yeah, it can be done. It should be done. It should be a safe exit for especially Folks, if I was you know if my parents were living there or someone elderly in my family, I'd be real nervous for them pulling out onto Bridge Street. So yeah, I agree with all of what you brought up. Bottom line is we hear you and we'll continue to work on it. But thanks again for all the feedback we've received tonight. And that update that MarvGay was very valuable. We appreciate that. Definitely don't let up. We want to definitely work with them and find a solution and stop dreaming about it. All these projects we've had for years, like Bridge Street, Water Treatment. They've all been dreams until recently. And so we can make that reality too if they're willing to participate and work with us. So any other questions? We thank you for your time, we thank you for the updates, and we look forward to seeing this complete. Yeah. We do too. Yeah, we really appreciate all the city council support and city managers support. Almost every department in the city is probably somehow injected in this project for an update PIO. Well, we'll notify of a ribbon cutting ceremony and then at the time we'll also have some stuff we'll be handing out to celebrate the completion of the project. So we look on looking out for that information. Great and then will this budget amendment come up at the next meeting for vote? So we're going to bring the contract amendment next meeting at City Council. That'll be for actually executing the contract documents associated with construction contract from the budget. I can't answer that. We don't know which meeting that is though. Is that next week? We do have a budget amendment next week, but it will actually not include this. We are using existing appropriation from other projects that will not need them to cover the overage. Because you guys appropriate at a fund level, we don't need to add it to that project through the actual city council process. Okay. So budget amendment is not necessarily spoken correctly. Correct. It will just... This is more of an informational and explanation. Okay. Yeah, it will utilize budget That's already existing from other projects city attorney called room What you will see is the change order the contract amendment that's right coming all right Thank you for clarifying all right. It was just shown under other projects all All right Great. Thank you That's it anybody have any policy items that they can't put on the web form Yes, sir I do councilmember Snyder mr. Mayor Mayor Pro Tem in the fellow members of the council as well as the city attorney As you know our youth, one of the best in the United States, is preparing their annual speak week, which is a week long suicide prevention. They reach 63 to 93 schools. They do the walk. They've got a lot of things going on. We're going to do a proclamation for them about speak week on the 15th. They asked me to request of you if we would consider all of the council members, everybody on the dius that evening, they will provide them would wear to help promote awareness of speak week, a speak week t-shirt instead of our normal garb. So I told them I'd bring that up and get a consensus of whether we could do that or not. So you're proposing to wear the t-shirt on council night. On council night on the 15th. Yeah. And you can either change into it or you can wear it over what you've got. They would just like us to wear it to support awareness of speak week for the Youth Commission. What do we have then? I think a couple of public hearings. Yeah, public hearings. Some guests. I mean, I want to support the youth, but at the same time, trying to show professionalism to those guests that come in and come in for, you know, like the public hearings and stuff like that. So it's up to the council how they want to proceed on that. So I have just my humble opinion that is as professional to support our youth commission. That's my you have a open salesman right here. Love it. Hello, Mr. Good. How are you, Mr. Good? Thank you. I was very happy. Yep, she's going to get all the sizes. We may get them on the 14th of late, but it may actually be on the 15th because of the vendor. But let me just say in advance, the Youth Commission greatly appreciate your support in this. They're biggest endeavor of the year or they wouldn't have asked. OK. Thanks for bringing that. Anybody have anything else to bring up? And once a dog party. And once a dog party. I know. I'd love to reopen Del Taco too, but you never know how that's going to work out. Because I read the email. All right, if there's nothing else, we are adjourned. We have our regular meeting next week. Thank you.