by our mayor Austin lumbered. We're over here. All right, sir. Yeah, I think it's easier that way if you mess up. Nobody can hear you. I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the state of California. I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the state of California. support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California and the Constitution of the State of California. That I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion or purpose of evasion that I will well and faithfully that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties discharge duties upon which I am about to enter upon which I am about to enter. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you. You're at this time because you hold a roll call. Commissioner Mello. Here. Commissioner Kozak. Here. Commissioner Mason. Chairpartem Dalton. Here. And Chair Higuichi. Here. it's great to hear another word, Kozak again, so soon. So our second item on the agenda is planning commission reorganization of 2020 for 2025. This time planning commission will reorganize by appointing a new Chairperson and Chairperson Pro Tem. At this time, I'll open nominations for a chairperson. Is there a motion? In a second, I would like the motion to point Tanner Douthit as chair for 2025. Second. Beirutically, if you roll call vote. Actually, prior to that, I'd like to make a comment. I really have enjoyed serving on planning commission this past four years as especially as chair. But one of the great things about Tuston is that this has been frankly an apolitical pretty independent minded body. And I like how we've been rotating that role of vice chair pro 10 and chair person. So I think it's a great tradition that we can keep going on for this commission. and I'm happy, I'm glad we can hand the baton off to Tanner. Hopefully after this vote for the next year. So, Virak, could you hold a roll call, please? Commissioner Malo. I. Commissioner Kozak. Commissioner Mason. I. Commiss chair, pro-tem, Delta. Aye. And Commissioner Higuji. Aye. New. Chair Higuji. Chair, Delta. Yes. Okay. Motion passes 5-0. Thank you. Thank you, Vera. So I think the rest of the agenda is yours. Chair, Delta. Mm Mm-hmm. Okay. We need to do it. We could stay seated. Yeah. Until we know who the chair. Thank you. Yeah. Excellent. Thank you all very much. At this time, I open up the nominations for Chair Pro Tem. Do we have any motions? All motion to appoint any nation as Chair Pro Tem. I will second that. We are going to be able to roll call vote please. Commissioner Mallow. Aye. Commissioner Huguji. Aye. Commissioner Kozak. Aye. Chair Pro Tem Mason. Aye. Chair Dalton. Aye. Thank you. I guess I'm switching seats again quick comment, I just want to thank Commissioner Higuichi for his I'm going to give my congratulations again. Excellent. In a quick comment, I just want to thank Commissioner Higuichi for his year of doing an outstanding job being chair. So thank you very much. Okay. We all settled. Next is public input. time any member of the public may address the planning commission on matters which are not listed on the evening's agenda. Provided the matters within the subject matter jurisdiction of the planning commission. If you are in person, please add a request to speak for me, Hannah Tvira, and we will invite you up to the podium. If you're watching via Zoom, please raise your hand to the webinar and you will be called on to speak. We are at this moment. Are there any public comments? Four items not listed on the agenda. Chair, I have not received any comments. Thank you. Sounds good. At the next four items on the agenda are consent calendar items. All matters listed under the consent calendar considered considered to be routine and will be enacted with one motion without discussion. Persons wishing to speak regarding consent calendar matters should file a request to speak for them with the planning commission secretary. We have quite a few consent calendar items. Chair, doubt that if I could, there's an item on your consent calendar which would like to thank you for your time. I would like to thank you for your time. I would like to thank you for your time. I would like to thank you for your time. I would like to thank you for your time. I would like to thank you calendar items and continue item number six. I'll make the motion. Through the chair. Just for item number three, since I was not a commissioner yet, at the last meeting, I just request to abstain from item number three of the consent calendar. Absolutely. I will make the second to approve the balance of the consent calendar items and continue item number six. So. Eric, can we have a roll call vote please? Commissioner Mello. Aye. Commissioner Higuichi. Aye. Commissioner Kozak. Aye. Chair Proto Mison. Aye. And Chair Delta. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Thank you. I'd like to take a brief check with our city attorney. Was that kosher? There's a lot of items left into one. of items that's a lot of items that's a lot of items that's a lot of items that's a lot of items that's in one. Yes, that's absolutely fine. Yes, that's absolutely fine. Yes, that's absolutely fine. I would just ask that we do go ahead I would just ask that we do go ahead I would just ask that we do go ahead I would just ask that we do go ahead and The next item is the agenda are public hearing items. First is for conditional use permit 2024-0022. The recommendation that the planning commission adopt resolution 4523 approving conditional use permit 2024-0022 to establish a commercial recreational facility. Imagine mines at 514 East First Street. Presented by Aaron Valle, sorry if I butchered that name, planning technician. Good way. Good evening, Chair Dothi. And members of the planning commission, and via playing techniques. Thank you. Good evening, Chair Dotha. And members of the Planning Commission, I'm Aaron Vaya, Planning Technician with the Community and Economic Development Department. Tonight, I am pleased to present a Conditional Use Permit Request identified as Conditional Use Permit 2024-22. which is a request to establish a commercial recreation facility for Imagine Games at 514 East 1st Street. The project site is located within the downtown commercial course specific plan under development area 3, which allows for commercial recreation facilities within with the approval of a conditional use permit. The project is surrounded by commercial uses to the north, south, and east, and multi-family residential to the west. The 2,800 square foot suite is located within a multi-tenant commercial center known as Larwin Square. Imagine mines as a commercial recreation facility for children between the ages of one to 10, with a large room hosting distinct play zones. There will be two rooms in the rear that will offer STEM classes and workshops. Examples of play zones include a water play area, interactive sand station, and playhouses. The activities aim to promote logical thinking and problem solving. Here you can see concept art of the play area, and as the center evolves, there are plans to incorporate new exhibits and fresh concepts. Moving under the four plan, the four plan is broken up into three distinct areas. The first area shown in red is 1,780 square feet, and is designated as the play zone. The second area shown in green is 550 square feet and is designated as classroom space. The third and final area shown in blue is for restrooms. The proposed business encourages reservations for guaranteed entry, however it does allow for walk-ins. Guest maximum stay is limited to two hours at a time with a maximum occupancy of 51 people, 48 of which are customers and three are employees. Regarding parking, parking at Larwin Squares regulated by a joint use parking study. The applicant submitted an updated study, dated February 10th, 2025. And Regarding parking, parking at Larwin Square is regulated by a joint use parking study. The applicant submitted an updated study, dated February 10, 2025, analyzing parking needs for the proposed commercial recreation facility. The study concluded that there is sufficient parking to accommodate onsite and for all uses within Larwin Square Square during peak periods. Regarding environmental, the CITES categorically exempt from California Environmental Quality Act per sequestection 15301 for existing facilities. In conclusion, staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt resolution number 4523, approving conditional use permit 2024-22, authorizing a commercial recreation facility at 514 East First Street. And that concludes my presentation. I'm available for any of your questions. Thank you. Thank you. It's Thank you. So I apologize for not so many of my questions I had time but this is a little bit. Harkins back to a few meetings back that we had a discussion in regards to the bus stations that about Lauren Square and the condition of those bus stations. Right. I've noticed they look a little improved but they're still suffering a little bit and I go ahead to see additional facilities being put in Lauren Square for people to utilize. And I'm wondering what it, what we look like with those bus stations there and getting those appropriately cleaned. Through the chair, if I may, address that. So recently our public works department is in contact with OCTA with regards to the bus stops. So they are working on trying to figure out what is the best way to maintain the bus stop, you know, in clean conditions. And maybe in the future probably improve the look and the feel of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of on that and kind of how that's going, especially as we continue to see businesses make investments in our community in that area. That's all I owe. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The other questions for staff? I had a couple quick questions. First, what was the line between, because I believe that this was an educational facility, it would be approved with a business permit, but since it's a recreational facility, that's why we're before the planning commission. That is correct. How was it determined to be a recreational facility over an educational facility? Right. I can see it's a little complicated. When we park it, we do park it more as an educational facility. And so we use them our restrictive use. And so that's why we ask for one space per instructor. So when it comes to parking, we treat it more as an educational use. But because the floor plan reflects more of an indoor play area, essentially, we're going to treat it as a commercial facility. So whichever has the larger square footage is what we're gonna go with. Any other questions for staff? Sounds good. Are there any public comments here? No chair, there are none. Thank you. That's good. I will now bring the item back to the commission. Yes. Is the applicant here? And do they have a presentation? Or were they going to share anything? Oh, yes. Yes, the applicant is here. Thank you. Thank you. Please approach the podium. I'm sorry. Can you? Yes, I'm sorry. They do not have any presentation. Oh, okay. But they're available if you have any questions. Excellent. Thank you. No other comments? So I will bring this item back to the commission and are there any commissioner comments? Through the chair. I just want to power staff to make these out of zoning administrator level or a plan director level and the future Understand that it's a Code issue, but I don't know that it needs to take up our time in the future That's it Any other comments? I will say I do agree. I mean, I appreciate there is a very broad spectrum of recreational facilities. So potentially we could have a smaller recreational facilities that fit in a small retail setting and a larger recreational facilities that I think would probably be Definitely appropriately brought before the commission in my opinion But with that do we have a motion? Almost deproved It's good. Have a motion in a second. Vira, can we have a roll call vote please? Commissioner Mala. Aye. Commissioner Kozak. Aye. Commissioner Huguichi. Aye. Chair Pro Temason. Aye. And Chair Delta. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. Next, we have Design Review 2025-0005 and Nets Deep Owners Requests. Where the recommendation is that the Planning Commission adopt resolution 4522, recommending that the City Council approve Design Review 2025-0005 and Nets Deep Owners Concession slashvers, request for the construction of a new three-store residential building with eight rental units affordable to lower income households presented by Mary Salomon. Take it away. Good evening, Chair Douthett and members of the Planning Commission. I'm Mary Salomon, and I will be presenting agenda item eight tonight, at 1852 and 1 Street. The applicant families forward is requesting approval for a design review and density bonus waiver and concession requests. The proposed project will include eight rental units affordable to lower income households. Just to give you a quick background on the project in November 2023, City Council approved a $2 million affordable housing grant agreement between the city of test and the applicant using funds from the inclusionary housing fee fund. The purpose of this fund is to the purpose of this grant is to construct as to fund construction related activities for this project. The project has a high-density residential general plan designation and an R4 suburban residential zoning designation. The surrounding area consists of a mix of public, institutional, and residential uses. to the north of the site is a public elementary school, single-family homes. To the south is a parking lot for an assembly use. And to the west is an assembly use facility. To the east are residential buildings. The applicant is proposing to redevelop the site by demolishing the existing structures, which include a vacant single family home as well as a small studio apartment located above a detached garage with a new three story walk up residential building. The building will provide permanent affordable housing for lower income families. The property will include eight units with a mix of one, two, and three bedroom layouts to cater to diverse household needs. Among these units, two will be designated as density bonus units. Additionally, the building will feature shared amenities, such as a laundry room, an outdoor courtyard, a common room in storage and bike facility rooms. The first floor will include two to bedroom units and outdoor open space, common room, laundry room, and bicycle and storage rooms as I just mentioned. and the second and third floors will have similar floor plan layouts that will feature one one bedroom unit one two bedroom units and one three bedroom unit. The site is approximately 0.22 acres and will consist of an 8,700 square foot building that's set back approximately 66 feet from the front property line. the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the sidewalk to the main entrance of the building along the western side of the property that's highlighted with the two yellow arrows on the side. This project aims to create high quality, multi-family residential development that blends with its surrounding neighborhood. The building has a contemporary Spanish architectural style and it showcases clay roof tiles, large vinyl windows, decorative iron work, and decorative shutters, which also enhance its visual appeal. In addition, this site features a 24-foot wide two-way driveway that serves as the sole point of entry and exit to enhance curb appeal and buffer the property from adjacent traffic. 15-foot landscaped planting areas are proposed on both sides of the driveway. In addition, the site is required to provide a total of 18 parking spaces, 16 covered spaces for residents and two spaces for guests. However, the proposed plan includes eight uncovered parking spaces, which will be accessible from St. Wann Street. these eight spaces, two will be designated as accessible stalls. As part of the density bonus, the applicant is requesting a concession to reduce the parking requirement from 18 to eight spaces. And this will be discussed later in the presentation. The landscaping plant focuses on water efficiency and includes a diverse range of ground cover, shrubs, succulents, trees and vines throughout the site. This design also aims to enhance the aesthetics and provide privacy for the project site. The project features a 289 square foot indoor common room along with a 379 square foot outdoor open space that's also equipped with planters, seatings, a barbecue station, and permeable favorsvers to provide aid and stormwater management. Lighting will also be installed throughout the site to ensure safety and visibility. Now we're going to discuss density bonus. So, per the city's agreement with the applicant, the project must provide housing for extremely low and low income households to receive grant funding. Under California's density bonus law, the project qualifies for 80% bonus by dedicating 100% of its units to these level incomes. The high-density residential zoning allows for six base units on this parcel. With this bonus, the project could include up to 11 units. However, due to its site constraints, the applicant is proposing eight units in total, including the two density bonus units. Okay, so under density bonus law, affordable housing projects may request relief from certain development standards. When strict compliance would make the project economically or physically infeasible. The relief is categorized either as waivers or concessions. In this case, the applicant has requested for four waivers. Wavers are granted when specific development standards would physically preclude construction of the project. The requested waivers for this project include a waiver of the 50% limit on paid services and the front, paid surfaces and the front yard, a waiver for the reduction of the required 20 foot driveway queueing distance to five feet and a waiver for the elimination of the requirement of covered parking spaces. These first three waivers support compliance with ADA accessibility standards and while maintaining the planned number of units. The fourth waiver seeks to reduce the rear yard setback from 25 feet to 5 feet to be able to maximize the buildable area of the site. Without these waivers, the project could physically not be built. Now moving on to the development standard concessions. Concessions are permitted when regulations would make the project financially infeasible. The applicant in this case is requesting two concessions. The first one is a concession for the building maximum height from 35 feet and two stories, two 40 feet and three stories to accommodate the planned units and maximize the buildable area, and a concession to deviate from the requirement for underground utilities and utilize existing overhead utilities north of the project site to reduce cost. Since the existing structures on the property are more than 50 years old, a historic assessment was required to determine whether the existing structures qualified for historic designation on a national, state, or local level. The assessment determined that the property does not meet the minimum requirements for historic designation and the site is suitable for redevelopment. The project is categorically exempt to section 15332 and 15192, the California Environmental Quality Act. And in conclusion, this staff recommends the adoption of Resolution 4522, approving DR 2025-005, and density bonus concession and waiver requests for a new three-story residential building with eight rental units affordable to lower income households. If I could through the chair, staff has provided you a revised draft resolution, which is on the dius. That revised draft resolution includes an additional finding, which has been highlighted and read for you on page two, which identifies that the project would be, or finds that the project would be in compliance with the Housing Crisis Act of 2019, also known as Senate Bill 330. And that's in relationship to the fact that there are two existing housing units that would be demolished and that eight units would be constructed in their place. So for the record. Excellent. It's very good. I do see that the applicant has sold out a request to speak for him, but before I call the applicant, I want to see if there any quick questions for staff. Sorry, I have a cold. It works. I have questions when I'd like to hear from the applicant first. That's good. Would the applicant like to come speak? Yes. Sorry, this could close my... Yes, she's here. Go ahead. I was going to let you try that name, but that's fine. You might be asking how to pronounce it. My name is Nish Tamahindra, and I have the honour of serving as the Chief Program Officer with Families Forward. A very good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you all this evening, Chairperson, Pro Tem and Commissioners. If I may request we're a place. It's a feeling. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. Security. A home is more than just a place. It's a feeling, security, strength, pride. It's both a sanctuary after a long day and a launch pad into the next. But what if that disappeared? For many families, homelessness is just one paycheck away. So what if your home, along with all its comforts, was suddenly gone? What next? Since 1984, families forward has helped thousands of Orange County families find stable, secure housing, while providing essential services every step of the way. For some, our food pantry is vital to success. For others, counseling through our mental health program is the necessary first step. Though each family's story is unique, the outcome remains the same. They're no longer experiencing homelessness. Every day, success stories play out under the care of families forward, but none of it is possible without our generous donor and volunteer network. Let's continue giving families all the resources they need to cook in their own kitchens. To keep a roof over their kids' heads. To kiss them good night in warm beds. Families experiencing homelessness in Orange County turn to us for help, for hope, and ultimately for home, and we never turn them away. Families awkward until every family has a home. Thank you. Before I get started, I just want to take a second and mention that I'm joined this evening in the audience with our CEO, Madeleine Hernees and my colleague, Lauren Han, along with the principal architect from KDGY, Kate Labors, in case any questions come up, and I know Commissioner Malo might have one, and we can tag team and take a few. Until every family has a home and that's really what we focus all our work on. We were founded in 1984 so we stand here before you with 40 plus years of experience with the mission to prevent and family homelessness in Orange County. A quick snapshot of what we have gathered in terms of the needs in city of Dustin. Just like to point out really quick, it takes a family almost $3,000 a month to be able to pay in rent for a two bedroom apartment. In the most recent point in time, they were identified eight unsheltered homeless individuals and 355 sheltered homeless individuals in city of Dustin. In 2024 families forward was instrumental in serving 14,000 orange county residents and it just like to highlight that our partnership with the city is not new. We are serving Dustin residents and in 2024 we help serve 678 of the test and residents which included 434 minor age children. Some of the ways that we've partnered with the city include six affordable housing units, scattered site condominiums, actually not too far from the site of the project that we're discussing today and our fully housed families families are thriving in those six units. And some of the projects that we've done similar to Dustin Heritage, the project that we're talking to you about today, are in the city of Costa Misa and Lake Forest. Our focus as an organization is in offering housing, helping low-income, low income, and those struggling residents within the city of Dustin, by offering a menu of services, which includes basic needs like food, career coaching, case management, social services navigation, tenant education, and our seasonal programs, like back to school and holiday wish. Our objective is to stay focused around improving credit scores, helping people save more, increase their income, and reduce their debt. And that takes us to our success in our affordable housing projects with the performance metrics that we intend on continuing to document at Tustin Heritage as well. While the national average in affordable housing projects, neighbours anywhere around 10 years and more, in our last five years, we have been successful in helping families graduate from affordable housing programs under four years to move into market rate apartment. I think I will pre-shoot the choir when I say that there is dirt and limited housing availability in all of Orange County, let alone city of Dustin, and the opportunity to be able to serve more families with the units that we are going to be creating in partnership with you all will allow us to meet these objectives. Some other quick highlights, 51% of our families were successful in increasing their income. In the last year, 30% of the families utilized our very successful savings program and that really allows us to create the building blocks of helping families thrive. We have before you a packet with some renderings and I know Mary and the staff have shared some other renderings with you, but this is a quick snapshot of our most recent project in city of Costa Misa. And we were lucky to receive an award for the affordable housing innovative development award in 2023 for this project. The property looked like on your right top of the screen, we acquired it, helped really facelift and bring it back to life with the finished products of what places we as staff would love to live in ourselves, and offering the same dignity and access to the quality of life for the families as they rebuild their lives. An important piece of our puzzle is the community space. This serves as a melting pot in an area where families are able to create a sense of community in the project sites, along with all of the work that I mentioned to you earlier. Our case managers working with the families meeting one-on-one, doing some evening classes in community engagement activities, which include financial literacy classes, tenant education, family self care, and any other need that is identified for our community on site. Brings us to our proposed project in the city of Tustin. We're lovingly calling it Tustin Heritage in celebration of our 40th year anniversary last year. And I know that you have a couple of ideas of the renderings. We wanted to spend a few seconds on what we're going to be doing with these eight units. We're maximizing every square foot to offer housing to at least 36 dust-in residents, which are going to be prioritized and there's going to be a preference in our project. And our income levels that are going to be qualifying all the way from extremely low income to very low income and low income. To draw your attention to an example for a two-bedroom apartment, for a family of four, two adults, two kids in the family, at a 50 percent AMI means that they should be making anywhere between $63,000 to $85,000 to maximize the occupancy size. And while the market rate FMR right now in city of Tustin is 2,903, we will have the opportunity to extend that to a low-income family at $1,176. I would be remiss if I didn't thank you all, the staff and the City of Tustin for helping us bring this project to life. Also mentioned on there is a construction partner in Cal Optima Health, which is going to be offering, is committed to offering, and we're utilizing their funds right now for all of the planning work. And we're joined by some really amazing pro bono partners, KTGY included, and all of their services, along with the expertise of a dry utility consultant organization, Karl Moran. Hans Saker and associates are coming to the table as the civil engineering experts. Govis Engineering is serving in their MEP capacity. MGS also was the landscape provider in Sycamore Homes, which is on the east to our property. So we wanted to stay strategic in the curb appeal to bring forward a product that a market rate family home would buy along with a family in our affordable housing project. We're so thankful to MGS as well for serving us in a hundred percent pro bono and pro bono capacity are chosen. A GC for this project is Casco Contractors, a family run, well reputed construction company, and Chesco companies is coming in as a consultant for helping keep oversight, for a quick footnote, both the city of Dustin funding and the Cal Optima funding trigger prevailing Vagina project, and experts like Chesco and Casco will allow us to stay on point so that we're undertaking everything that's required for the codes. That brings me to the end of the presentation, pointing out some of the contacts, and we shared with you a folder with our information around Families Forward. It has a detailed impact report. We also sneak in a flyer if you ever have constituents who are looking for support from an organization like us. You're welcome to share our contacts with them as well and a copy of this presentation. Thank you for the opportunity and I'm happy to take the questions and also happy to tag my colleagues here in case there's something that I can't answer. Excellent. Thank you very much for the presentation. Of course. Before I open it up to my fellow commissioners, I have a couple quick questions. How does families forward make sure that additional occupants do notying any of the spaces? Then allowed on the maximum occupancy, I just wanted to clarify if that's what your question was. We have regular interaction with all of the residents who are staying on site. We have a property manager on our staff that serves our properties and make sure that we're up to code on all of the requirements along with the dedicated case manager that is connected with each family. So it's a regular weekly interaction at the beginning and then it then weans into maybe a monthly check-in with the families, but we're in constant touch as families are staying on site. We've never experienced in all the other projects that we've had, three other that there have been additional residents who move into the units. OK. I want to make sure we're not doing any illegal subletting. I know any of those units. This one, maybe a question for staff. Maybe you can assist as well. In the low probability of families forward, slipping or losing some of their funding, how do we make sure that these buildings do not fall into disrepair? Through the chair. Well, Chiu Dotted, thank you for the questions. There are multi-lay layers of conditions that we have included as part of your consideration. In addition to that, we do have housing agreement that both the city and the developer, I mean, the family sport will need to agree on. And there's also default provisions and terminations and what to do with the Property because the city does provide two million dollars into the program so many of those conditions are Going to be memorized within the housing agreement along with the approval if the planning commission is to approve the project tonight. Thanks. A question for families forward. On that note, your offer in a subsidized rent, at least it's lower rent because I assume the construction costs are lower. Is the subsidized rent sufficient in maintaining properties, or do you find you have stuff to bring in additional funding to maintain the properties themselves on top of the rents that you're charging? It would be safe to assume that there is additional private funding that we bring to the table in order to make sure that our properties are maintained well. We take a lot of pride in the projects that we're building. Our board also ensures that there is covenancies in addition to the ones we're agreeing on with the housing agreement, that all our properties are well maintained with an asset management lens. So at no point do we let that slip. Hopefully I answered your question. Yeah. Okay. Do you have custodians or maintenance workers on staff? Or do you contract that out? Yes, we do. And thank you for pointing that out. I should have captured that when I mentioned that we have a property manager on staff. We also do have staff that goes out and helps with the property maintenance and the landscape that's overseen on a weekly basis, along with working with vendors. There are sometimes not all improvements that we can do on our own. So there is a well-rounded process maintained. If there is any notice damage, is it either externally in the property or within units that we have the ability to go in and repair within 24 to 48 hours. For the parking lot, do you manage how many cars are permitted at the property amongst the families? Absolutely, at all times. And that's important because we want to make sure that we maximize the parking spaces, but we're also not dependent on the utilizing parking that might not be accessible otherwise in and around the community. So it is monitored pretty closely, and it's part of the case management process as we're providing supportive services. We're talking about what transportation needs are. The strategic placement of this property also allows for easier access to bus routes. And so sometimes there are occasions where families don't have a vehicle on them. But during their stay, they've increased their income and they've been successful in acquiring a vehicle. So that's the part of tenant education that we're providing on regular basis. Excellent. Any other questions? I'm sure there are plenty. I'd like to talk a little bit about the concessions. Why did you choose the ones you did? I think I know the answer to most of them. But if you could share with me a little bit about that, then I have a follow-up for staff on that. Sure. I can speak to them broadly, if we're not pulling it up on the screen just yet. The concessions were built keeping in mind the building codes and the space that was available to us to maximize each square foot. This is about a 9,700, just shy of 10,000 square foot piece of land in order for us to maximize a dignified and a good quality living for the families is what was really at the bedrock of considering the design. And I'll take a pause and see if maybe Mary has anything else to add on the concessions of why they were chosen the way they were. Yes, so there were just one second please. So there were two concessions that were chosen for this project. It was to maximize the height of the building from 35 feet to two stories to 40 feet and three stories and then the underground utilities and the purpose of that is because to make the project more feasible financially, concessions are permitted when you make right, you know, to make the project more feasible financially, to be able to push the project through as far as the maximizing the height of the building is to accommodate the planned units and the maximum buildable area. And then as far as the second concession was to reduce costs from going underground and utilizing the existing utilities across the street north of the project. So that's why we use those two. Raven, did you wanna- Through the Chair, Commissioner Mello, staff also works as we work through the process. We first attempted to see where the which development standards would not work for the project and why they wouldn't work. Once we found out which development standards didn't work and And we determined whether or not that would cause any kind of financial issue or any physical issue to allowing the project to move forward. And if once we determined that then we were able to place those in the categories of waiver and concessions. So it's really an organic process to find out what the project, what the proposal is, how it meets code, and if it doesn't meet code, then how do we go ahead and utilize the density bonus law to request those waivers and concessions? I would also like that just for the record that the concessions and waivers are part of the application from the applicant. It sounds like staff is working through making the determination of what is what. But ultimately, at the end of the day, these are, this is a request from the applicant. The burden of identifying whether or not the granting of this and whether or not there is a health or safety issue that would warrant not granting it really falls on the city. So there's a large, there is a high bar that we would have to pass or go over for us not to approve these concessions and waivers. And I would also identify that because this is 100% affordable housing project, the applicant is afforded, I believe, for concessions and an unlimited number of waivers. Okay. Well, just going on that some more. I just, I appreciate it. I like the project and I appreciate everything here. I have mentioned before that I think Tustin has a lot of overhead lines. And I think we've had discussions in previous meetings about how to change that or how we might address that and there's limited funds in the city. Are there any plans in the future for the city to take over some of that undergrounding? Because normally that gets passed on to new development. And if we're gonna bypass that by allowing concessions then we're gonna end up with streets that I think are a little substandard. And I'm concerned. I mean it's, these are gonna be affordable housing. They should have the same dignity as the rest of the housing in Tustin and get some underground, undergrounding available to them because it makes for a nicer streetscape, in my opinion. And so it's kind of one of my hangups that I have, and especially in that part of Tustin, and we've talked about how it is we could change that, and it's very expensive from what I hear. So I guess my question is, is there another concession that the applicant would be equally willing to trade, or is there anything else that you guys would be? I mean, you have up to four concessions, right? Is that a really, really important one to you guys? And if so, I think it is pretty cost prohibitive. We did do an analysis with the staff's help. And if this helps at all, Commissioner Mello, looking at that street, we would not be the only overhead line project on that street. And we would be lighter in terms of the visual impact as the Sycamore community that came up right next to us back in 2018. So we really tried to stay very mindful of where that impact would have even on our property and asset. I'm glad you brought that up. There is another developments on that street. I remember, were they required to underground? Were they not do does anybody know? Through chair yes they were required to underground and the requirement is the underground thing will need to start from the property line the exterior boundary of the property line. So depending upon the location of the existing powerful there are times when the powerfuls can remain But anything as soon as the power touches the exterior boundary they need to be located underground Okay, so if we grant this waiver There's no there's no plan so as it to speak continues to develop it will all be under grounded except for right in front of this house, potentially, or this community, I'm sorry. Well, I think in that situation, the public works will be looking at the entire streets, how to underground power lines within that section segments of the streets, and usually if there's one, the poll is not on every single property. So depending upon the locations, it's something that public works will be working towards to maximize the investment and also to make sure that we get the most from our bugs. If I find a. Thank you. That's all the questions I have for now. A few questions for the applicant, maybe even for staff. Part curiosity, part to sort of pragmatic questions. How do you decide who gets chosen for the housing? Thank you for that question. We follow fair housing laws. There is a public wide advertisement that's posted. And we get that out invite at large for the testing preference that's going to be on it. We make sure that we work with the staff and other community partners to get the word in the community. And once we receive applications that timestamp, we don't get to bump anyone up or down. There's a certain stipulation when the application time is open. Once that closes, we go in and we start shifting through as applications have come in. And income determination combined with the occupancy rates are some of the eligibility criteria that one has to go through before a family qualifies. So I know just in some of the research I did, it stated that so we've got the occupancy maximums and that you're required to have one minor child. You say you're in a three bedroom, you have seven people in, six or adults, and one child you got six cars. It could happen. Happen next door to my house. I'm just curious what you have learned from St. Costa Mesa. I know that it's difficult parking in that area. And has there been a discussion or research on that parking area in the surrounding area? Is it, is there street parking? Is there permitted parking? Or is the city going to do anything from that standpoint? It's a hypothetical, but parking is a real, real challenge. Absolutely. And we really took that seriously in the proposals that we made. It was important for us that why we maximized the unit count, we were sensitive to that the parking wasn't going to overflow out of the premises and what we were identifying. I think working in tandem with the staff and making sure that to your question there is state parking available. It's something I have used when I visit that site all the time. There are certain days and hours when you can park there and is utilized and we have noticed neighbors around us have used it. But we, in our experience with the other three properties, have not run into a lot of times that all of the families who qualify for affordable housing like ours will, by default, have a car in their household. And that sometimes allows for flexibility. In the scenario that it does happen, we're yet to experience a household six adults and a child. If it were to happen, we make sure that we're being mindful of what that commitment looks like in terms of the burden that can instill inadvertently on a site like this. So I don't know the fair housing laws. Is it, are you looking that as a criteria in terms of deciding who would get the housing? Parking is not one of the criteria that one has to abide by when someone qualifies. All right, thank you. Thank you. You're a chair if I may. one of the criteria that one has to abide by when someone qualifies. All right, thank you. Thank you. Here at Chair, if I may add, as an example, is the House of Ruth that was just recently completed on Alchemin or YELL. We have not heard any parking issues. And as Nisha said, that many of the Louis income family, they have one car. So it's something that the city has not experienced with parking problem when it comes to 100% affordable. Thank you. I think my only concern just to clarify is seven people in one unit and you've got several of those that is, again, hypothetical. It's a reality. Through the chair. Prior to me asking questions of the applicant, I would like to disclose that I have had X-partake communications with families forward and I've also known initiative for 10 years. I think going on a decade in our various work with homelessness and food insecurity in the county. And it's been a pleasure we're going to finish the baby up to now. Can you describe the community outreach you conducted for this project? Part of the community outreach has been absolutely engaging in with the church right next store And so that was important as we were introducing ourselves into the community. We've also been in contact with the HOA for the single family home community on our east along with our interaction with the local school district. We're right across from the middle school as well. And that's been part of the mix while we're on site, we're always a good neighbor. In doing projects like this since 2014, we have never received a feedback whether in City of Lake Forest or Costa Mesa for any concerns when it comes to challenges having us as a neighbor. So we intend to keep that promise. And hopefully, you know, continue to add more value to the neighborhood that we be in. One of the questions I had a staff was, why was there, it's a small common room, but I wondered why was there a common room even for only an 18-in-a-development? Why would you have a common room for a small project? So our focus is helping people move in, move up, and move out. And in order to do that, we engage in intensive services to help support the families who are living with us. Creating a common shared space allows us to hold evening sessions where we bring in experts. One of my favorites was, City of Santa Ana has the only Hispanic astronaut in the world actually and we were able to invite her out to meet with our families and one of our projects in Irvine and To create an opportunity like that for kids as they're growing up and getting same opportunities in life like I and everybody else in this room Room would was possible to have that common room to hold that event outdoors or in one residence unit would feel difficult. And we're very intentional on the kind of partnerships we bring to the table. So we focus on financial literacy. And that means we have different banks that come in and help undertake classes for us. We undertake some healthy communications exercises for anyone who has a teenager at home that comes really handy. We talk about being a good tenant and part of the life skill that we're helping people build is what is it to be a good neighbor? So when you're sharing a wall, you're living on the floor above and under. How is it that you're adding value to that community? And so that common space really helps us further exemplify the dignity and the quality of life that we would like to extend to the family's in city of Dustin. Great. Are you going to target at risk families in Dustin? Is there some preferential treatment for Dustin nights?'s part of the housing agreement that we have signed on with City of Dustin. And we will make sure that that preference is in place as we start leasing up. Actually, while I'm on that topic, that common room will also be a great leasing office. So that would serve as a great place for we're able to invite people, see what the property is like, some multiple uses. Gotcha. Can you paint us a picture of what your tenant's going to look? Who is your tenant? Where are they coming from? You know, it's single mothers with two kids. Is it, you know, are they working? You know, something general like that? I can go off in 2024 when we collected all of our program data and the 14,000 people we served. So some broad strokes on the demographic details. 48% of our families who are struggling and that we served had single parent head of households. We are seeing blended families. So we're seeing a grandparent taking care of a grandchild and another adult involved. But there are families from all across the county between our community market, which is our food pantry services at our program center and the affordable housing units that we have in city of Dustin, the work that we engage in with the CDBG program in city of Dustin. So in those 678 residents that we helped last year, that represented a good stealthy percentage of Dustin residents. And I'm happy to dig deeper on what that composition look like and maybe circle back with the staff. But I would say broadly, single parent head of households, some monolingual families, and I'm happy to dig deeper and bring that back to your attention. Are they working? Are they working nearby? Are they? Yes. For a city, a preference like for city of Dustin, they would be live work and study that we look at. So a family would have a child going to school in this district, either or the adult is working in the city and or sharing space with another family before moving into this property. So the live work study is an important piece. Last question for the applicant is Is housing insecurity getting worse or better in the county? We were doing really good when it came to family homelessness. In 2019, I could stand here before you and tell you that we had a short list of head count in our county. And we had started loosely talking about what zero family homelessness would look like in our county. Five years in, the pandemic has really made that difficult. In month of February, they were 378 literally homeless families in the coordinated entry system all across orange county. And any given time, our team in each month receives between 300 to 350 calls from different families all across the county. In our humble opinion, the problem continues to grow. And the housing vacancy rates being as low, the inability of affordable housing continues to make that strain even harder for families as they're holding down jobs, getting their kids to school, and just trying to get by. Thank you, Nista. I did have some questions for staff and I apologize. I thank staff for answering my long-list of questions prior to this hearing. And yeah, I'm here for the four years. So again, apologies. I don't like that wall in front. I think there's the first time I'm asking an aesthetic question. I just don't get it. It's right up on the public right away. And having some knowledge of the history of the project next door, there was a lot of effort put in that setback. It really seems out of place to me. Is that something? If I make a motion that we can ask to have that wall, not there, I subject to the concurrence of my fellow commissioners. Can we see any mention of the wall you're talking about? Is it available? I think. I think there is. If you look at it in your Kid it should show up right in front of the parking lot. I think that's what Commissioner Higuji's Yeah, he's So It's in there. It's a smaller one. It opens up a few times. That's Boulder's by the way. Whoever did this. I'd be curious. We were the Commission's thought. I don't want to speak on that kind of commission but it does bother me. Well, I guess, well, sorry. Yeah, to answer your question, it is a code requirement. So it is part of our development standard, so it is required. This is an affordable housing project. They've already requested two concessions. They do have the ability to request up to six concessions. A concession would be a waiver of a code requirement for economic reasons that could potentially make the project infeasible. So, the burden of proof in this case would be the city to show that that concession is something that but in this particular case, it wouldn't be a waiver because they clearly can put the wall there and make the project work. Yeah. So, believe me, I don't want to belay this in the dyes, but the ad to scribe in the response to my question, the screening materials can include a combination of plant materials, earth borers, masonry walls, raised planners, or other screen devices. So without the walls, I think there's a pretty subjective determination that it meets the intent of the code. Again, I don't want to belabor it on the desk. It's not the place, but that wall, I do have an issue with that wall. I have a static screen. And through the chair, we can, because it's a combination, We don't, it doesn't have to be a wall and landscaping. If you desire, we could just require landscaping in that area to screen the parking lot. So that is an option. Okay. And through the chair, I just, I want to understand that better. I think aesthetically from, I think the design is actually really good looking. I do see that wall without, I think that we've got California fully edge up front, which means it's desert and probably crushed limestone. But that wall does give a little protection to the cars. Again, as an aesthetic, it's a look and feel. I'm just curious to understand the why better. If you look along the property to the North or the South, the newer development by DR Horton, that's like a 25-foot setback. The church also has a pretty massive setback without any structure. It just seems like an awkward, probably four-foot run wall, drive way, then another four foot run a wall. I just look, I think, unless there's signage or something, or, you know, like a demarcation of where the building is, I don't know what purpose it serves. Through the chair, can we ask the architect to speak on this? Because I understand what you're talking about, but I would think the architect would have something to say about the context of that wall and the building and the neighboring communities. And I'd like to hear what they have to say. Any meeting commissioners? Is that on? Okay. Any meeting commissioners? I'm going to keep the labours with KTGY. You know, it really started out as trying to maintain a consistency with the neighbors next door because they do have those patio walls that run, but to your point, it is their walls are set back further. That wall is actually part of the landscape design. So I don't think we have a problem. If it is a group, you decide we'd rather just not see it there. It's really kind of a subjective thing and whether you'd see more car behind the wall or not, but we're happy to go either way. Through the chair, if I may, as Commissioner Higuchi mentioned in the law of the wall, the low wall, the applicant, if they may be able to, them can install hedges that will provide the screening. But then again, it will be a plan material instead of block wall. Yeah, just something to think about as we deliberate. So I'm not, yeah, it's just a small wall. If I could also add, there are two sides to the wall and either side of the driveway. One side actually has a trash enclosure, which has a wall around it itself. So in fact, that wall on that side isn't even necessarily needed because the trash enclosure provides screening for parking there under the code. So that hits 50% of your wall concern. Yeah, I guess that's the concern. You have landscaping, well, you have right away, little narrow strip of landscaping wall, landscaping, then another wall with the trash enclosure. So totally subjective. Again, I only bring it up because it did bother me. More about consideration to Chair Mellos' concerns, Commissioner Mellos' concerns about the underground of power lines in front of the property. The power lines are on the opposite side of the front edge. There's only one small pole on the property's actual frontage. So there are overhead power lines running the entire length of that street, but on the test and high school side. So that's why I'm frankly okay with that concession because as you're aware, Commissioner Mellon would be an economic burden. And I apologize to staff. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. I'm not sure if it's a lot of the same. battery storage system needs to be installed. I'm working on a couple projects myself. I wasn't aware that a battery storage system is a requirement. Is that correct? And through the cherry. We were in discussions with the applicant regarding that condition of approval. We spoke with the building official and it isn't necessarily required, but that also can be handled at Plan check. So more than likely that will not be required. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, that's it for my questions. Thank you for entertaining. I appreciate it. Through the chair. Yes. I had a couple questions for staff and the applicant. With regards to the just the form of affordable housing grant agreement, and I notice there's a page, possibly page two missing from our, from the packet. Looks like it goes straight from the recitals to section two. I was wondering if there's any way, I'm not sure quite sure on what section one is included on that. And, well yeah, let's start there. I think what happened here is a double-sided didn't print double-sided in our page. So we go from page one, we have a blank page on the back and then page three. And then if you see on page, the backside of page three, there's a page four. So for whatever reason, it doesn't appear to have printed double-sided for page two from what I can tell here. So are you looking to get a copy of that or? Yes, so just so I could see what the form or the commission could see with the form. Yeah, agreement contains for that for that section. Let me see if I can find that. Okay, thank you. My second question for the property management portion of it. I know you said that it starts, kind of start weekly and then monthly, and then kind of what happens after that. Thank you for that question. So our property management is regularly done on VT basis, which includes site inspections, getting into the units and making sure it's been taken care of, and then monthly rent collections and all of the activities that that require are supportive services, which is our case management services. Start off very intensive initially, as people are moving in, settling in, making it home. We tend to spend more time with them, just help them get the bearings, help them understand where their meter is, how do you pay rent, what is the system to use. And we found with experience that as the crisis and the settling in happens and crisis is over, we then tend to check in on as needed basis with the family. That is a combination of being on site, along with sometimes we meet families in between their workday during their lunch hour. And so I just wanted to clarify that there is no reduced property management oversight at any time. That's just a programmatic element. So there was somebody checking on the property itself at the start They've done a monthly basis. Yes. On a weekly and monthly basis. Okay. And then I also had a question regarding just a minor question. What happens to a family when they kind of move, which is the point where they move out of the ink, the their their bracket? For what what happens with their housing after that. So, I want to make sure that I capture your question correctly. Scenario one, family is still living with us and they have done amazing and gotten a promotion and making more income. On annual basis, we check for income certification. At that stage, and if the family is making more than the threshold, we are hopefully doing a good job and talking to them all along it, starting day one that, you know, we should find you a home to make your own. This doesn't have to be your final stop. And if you've done a good job when we do the income certification, we've already had conversation that you now get 100 and 80 days, as agreed on with with our housing agreement that we will then help you transition into your next step. And not that that's our exclusive responsibility on what happens to that family at that stage. But we do think it's our duty to help them on that next stage. It could be a combination of helping with home ownership. It could be a combination of what relocation could look like, and then really offering those housing navigation services. scenario, did I answer your question? Yes, for that, what was your second scenario? I was going to say do I need to go into it? So I will. My scenario too is a families over-income qualified. They would not be eligible to be in the unit to begin with. Yeah. So that's a criteria that we are checking for right off the bat. Okay. So yeah, my question was made into a scenario, because I didn't want a family that was, I was wondering what would happen to them through, you know, being rewarded and then they won't have, you know, kind of being, you know, they won't have an or go afterwards. And then, as far as I think the, when you, with your tenants, do you have any parking, when you have an agreement with them, do you have any parking restrictions, say, one car per unit? I know that's, would only apply for the parking there and the concern is the community around it. but is it one car per unit, one car per a dwell like per apartment or how does that if anything? So there is a housing agreement that we have programmatically with families as we encouraged them to voluntarily participate in services that we're offering. So asskill straining, we do talk about what the use of a car on site can look like. Although there are no limitations, we're not going to reprimand a family for having two cars. But we do do some creative problem solving in solutions if there happens to be more cars available that can be accommodated on site. Okay, so in an instance where a couple families maybe have two cars, let's say, I was just kind of concerned with more overflow, I guess, into the community. And then as far as the rest, I was concerned, but I believe my fellow commissioners brought up I was concerned about the concession with the overhead with the overhead lineage and Yes, I believe that that's that's that's what I have this right now If I could through the chair we do have page two of the agreement printing out It's just printing very slowly So we have I think three or four sheets here We need five because there's five of you, but we will distribute that to you momentarily. Great. Thank you Sorry to hit you with another round of questions, but You have a very high success rate. It's not 100% what happens to the family that don't work out this program? We continue working with them. We've had families who stay with us longer. Sometimes it takes longer for people to get back on their feet and stabilize, and our responsibilities to get them to that point. So it's a partnership. We don't solely are responsible for someone's success. But we see it as our responsibility that we're coming into this partnership with the family to help them navigate what services and opportunities are available. It does happen. We have a high success rate and we take a lot of pride in it because of the intentionality we put behind our work, but that doesn't oversee the cost of living in this county that does not protect somebody from life challenges that can happen. Medically people can get impacted or they could be other financial implications that the family could be going through. A program that we have developed and that contributes to our success is Intentional Savings Program where we start families off with incentivizing if they continue to be a good renter, good tenant, we encourage them by increasing savings and matching that amount in their account. So that incentivizes people to move into another market rate apartment or a home because they've saved enough with our support and with their good engagement and performance that they'll have enough to pay for security deposit, have enough to start that next journey. Do you evict tenants for nonpayment? We follow all housing, fair housing laws as is required. If it does land up into the scenario that there is non-payment of rent, we would have to follow the legal recourse as needed. There is a higher threshold. We make sure that we have the right opportunities before us for the households. End of the day, our work is about supporting families and housing families. And we make sure that that stays front and center. So one of my concerns is bringing families or people that are on the border of homelessness into this area. And then it not working out and basically kicking them out on the streets in this area. How should I not be concerned about that? I would say starting off with the intensity and intentional services that we have that really happens. We have a affordable housing project scattered all through the county and in the 136 units that we own and operate and support families in We've rarely ever had eviction in the last 10 years We've had to go through only two evictions and that's because we're very serious about that our work is to help support the families and not get them on the streets in the hypothetical scenario We find ourselves that everything that we've tried doesn't help. Then we also work with what helping families access emergency shelters is like. And it is our responsibility that we're not unhousing, are unhoused, residents and neighbors. And so how do we help them access that next step? It could mean an an emergency shelter, it could mean relocation outside of the city or the county. It could mean accessing model for a couple of nights until we can get up and see what the next steps are. So hopefully our track record gives you some confidence. And I would also really like to invite you all to come see our other projects. you find yourself in Costa Misa and Irvine in Lake Forest. And as we hopefully get approved today and with your support, start taking the improvements in Thustin Heritage. You'll get to see the before and after. And our presence there will hopefully give you more confidence. Very good. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Last question. I'm just looking at the Google Earth image right now. The church has an enormous amount of parking. Has there been any discussion on? Yes. Yes, parking. Okay. Just in our end, we've had discussions with the parking. We have a verbal acknowledgement if needed that we could partner, but that has not lost our site. And I just think the reality of this area is parking continues to be a challenge. Yes. We've got apartment buildings. And so as long as there's a real tangible potential for a solution, I think that makes sense. I appreciate you looking into that. And I just want to thank you all again for the opportunity. We really believe in that, as we partner with you all, that we can really change lives for 36 test and residents. And we hope that we were able to answer your questions in completion today and that we can get your support. I have one last question. Yes. If we're willing to get rid of that wall for you, would you be willing to underground that line? It really is unattractive. Then I would have to talk to Commissioner Higuichi on liking the wall. So that's good. At this time, we'll be closing public comment. Thank you very much for your presentation and comments. Thank you. And I'll be bringing the item. Oh, sorry. If there are any additional public comments. Or any hands raised on zoom. We have Peter. Oh, he lowered his hand. Sorry. He'll move on to the next person. Can you hear me? ahead, Peter. Can you hear me? Yes. Go ahead. I have learned that the project is going to be three-story building. Is that true? This time for public comment. Any questions? It can be addressed end. Okay. Three story building seems up. It's rather the only building around the area with their height. Most of the building are too sorry. We live next to that. It's somehow like there is a main tourist threat that people are above our self. So that's my concern. And have you talked about even though they may apply to the the code, but the reality to us, we do have that concern. Thank you. Sorry, Peter, Rebner. Pretty tough time hearing you, but I think we heard one of the questions, which was, is the project three stories? And would City staff like to address that question? And if you heard other questions or comments, I can hear anything. Yes, it's three stories. Is that was that the question? That was the only question. Yeah, the proposal is a three story residential building. Correct. That will be the highest building in the neighborhood, right? The high, the, the high, the question, the question was whether or not that would be the highest building in the neighborhood. I have not taken a survey of the height of the buildings in the neighborhood, but it will be one of the highest if not the highest likely. I don't know what the height of the adjacent assembly, religious assembly use the church next door is. I think they have a large sanctuary building, so I don't know its height, but this project does exceed the height limit for these zone based on the concessions that are being granted. That's our concern that we live next door. People above us. How you address that? You were trying to plan some tree higher enough to block that view or something like that. So we can feel the peace of mind or safety. Instead of people watching you, that's my concern. Thank you very much for your comment, Peter. Any additional questions or comments? I think we addressed the question of whether that was three stores or not, the answer is yes. Is it the tallest building? I think we said potentially the assembly building, maybe a little taller. I do have a question on what is the privacy protection between this property and the properties next to it? Not the church, but the Sycamore Grove. The residential buildings to the east. There is a perimeter wall around the project site so that, and then there's gonna be some landscaping that's gonna to be installed as well. Just a clarifying question. In terms of the architecture on the on that side of the building that does face that unit which has nine windows on that unit. I'm curious how many windows are facing out to that unit. Can we pull that up? And through the chair, the applicant did push the building back away from the residential buildings. That was actually a concern of the applicant when we were reviewing the site plan. that it wasn't immediately adjacent to any residential existing residential buildings. So I believe it's set back far enough so that they aren't adjacent to each other. So the what's adjacent to the existing residential buildings now would be the parking lot. In the parking lot, it has a standard wall. It's okay. It's around it. Oh, thank you. Look at it. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Are there any other public comments? They're in person, we're on Zoom. I do not see any hands raised and there's no emails or speaker forms. Thank you, Chair. Excellent. Well then at this point I will close public comment and bring the item back to the Commission for discussion. I'll kick us off. First of all, I am just in awe of the work that Family's Floor Word has done and is doing for our community. I think that I'm going to, you know, this is not something to be, I don't know if I should be shouting from the rooftops, but this is the first time we've had low-income housing built into a community and not had a full house of people with concerns. I think you have clearly done a lot of great work in community building and outreach and being thoughtful in terms of how you're building this out and really what you're providing to the community and to families. I do, I am going to go aesthetic and I am looking at my Google Earth and I'm telling you you're building a beautiful home for people and there is what looks like, what is it yarn hanging from the side between those two units. I would strongly encourage, I kind of like the idea of maybe, I know it's a concession, but it is also, you know, it's your creating an environment of four people. I live in a community where everything's underground. Thank God it's built in 1967. It does make a difference and it is to me a big, it's an ice war andort and it also looks like if you're three stories high at concern and a safety concern so I don't know how that plays in so I'm just offering it because you will be higher than the wires. Do we address that? I also am looking there is a half wall there it is not a pretty pretty wall. Your your stucco wall that they have for pros is is very nice. Again, I'm a fan of keeping the cars as cars and but if you do replace it with the hedges because you're going to bury the wires all all the better. So that's just my thoughts and comments. Real quick with respect to Commissioner Chair Patel, Mayifin's comments about the overhead wires. I'm looking on Google Earth here. Well, one, I applaud the concession. So I think it's a creative way to keep costs for affordable housing down because as we all, it's, that's probably a $40,000 poll underground plus another six months of work and a bunch of soft costs for consultants. But I'd also like to point out, I don't think that's in front of their frontage. That looks to, that appears to be more in front of the frontage of the old DR Horton project. So I don't think that's a responsibility. like a sponsor. Yeah, symphony. But it serves this property, doesn't it? I'm pretty sure it does. Yeah, it looks like it serves this property. But it serves this property, doesn't it? I'm pretty sure it does. Yeah, it looks like it serves this property. Maybe Horton should have been conditioned to underground the line for that. I don't know, but I agree with Commissioner Mason. I think I'd like to see that poll go away. I'm willing to give, if it's $40,000 on undergrounding, Give him $20,000 back for their wall coming down. They're not going to have to do it. Yeah, I say that. I've seen a much worse condition in Tussin. I have no issue with that. I have additional comments. Please. First of all, families forward, really, really appreciative to have you here. I think your premier organization serving At risk families in central Orange County I think we're lucky to have you here. I think you've taken frankly a big I think you've closed in this property Prior to this hearing correct. So you've taken a big risk on on a moving this project forward economically I do want to discuss the concessions. I am supportive of the undergrounding, not the concession, to avoid undergrant the power lines. It's an incredible cost. It doesn't add to, it just takes away from your ability to serve homeless families, in my opinion. And a comment directed at staff, I do believe the height should be considered a waiver. The logic used to state that it's a concession could also apply to the 25 foot rear yard setback. We included that as a waiver but you know theoretically you could still build the same number of units in the property they just be really small units but that that waiver doesn't that 25 foot setback doesn't create a condition where the development is is infeasable to build and also the height waiver is, I think, it's pretty much cited in a lot of HDD guidance that that's typically used as a waiver, not a concession. Again, we are working in the gray area of a state housing, aggressive state housing law, but I just want it to be mindful when other projects come before us. I think that's it for my comments right now. Rishka Kozak. Well, I want to say that thank you for the presentation and thank you for the paperwork as well. And I think it's an important need in Tuscany as well and I think it's important to get it right and I think going towards that right path. So thank you. Thank you. Mr. Melody, Jeff, other comments? Did you mean to cut you off early? No, but I mean, if we want to make a motion. I so- Thank you. Mr. Melody, Jeff, other comments? I didn't mean to cut you off early. No, but I mean, if we want to make a motion. I still have a couple of comments. I mean, comments. Okay. But you're welcome to make a motion. I'm not going to cut you off. I'll hear your comments first, and then I'll make a motion. I personally don't mind the wall. I think it might look good as a background to desert landscapes. I am a little confused. I think it seems like there's enough state bills where this could have bypassed planning commission between SB 10, SB 290 and a few other strong-arm state bills that have passed that it seems like this is a courtesy. So I appreciate you giving us the opportunity to give a little bit of feedback. It looks like you did a good job of public outreach because when I saw the flyers going out it was expecting a full house. And you must have done a very good job of addressing the neighbors that all received those flyers. I'm a little disappointed that we're losing one of our pre-1950s housing stock outside of Old Town. I don't think there are many. I'd say there's probably just a handful and this is going to be one of them. So anytime we lose some of our older housing inventory, I feel like we're losing a bit of the charm of the neighborhood. It doesn't mean that this isn't a great beautiful project. I think it looks great. But like I said, some of the historic aspects of the original farm and agriculture or neighborhood that used to be there will be erased with this demolition. So that's it for my comments. What that, Mr. Melano, do you have a motion? Well, I'm curious if I can make a motion and get a second for approving the project with the condition that the underground gets done. Do we wait, that we ask that condition to be the first? I don't think that motion is permissible because under the density bonus law they're entitled to a specified number of concessions and waivers. If it's the intent of the commission to. Did not. That request we would have to make the discussion and we would have to have facts indicating that that requested concession. in fact, would not result in cost reductions for the project. So, I think that's a good point. We have to have a good proof and we would have to have facts indicating that that requested concession. In fact, for not result in cost reductions for the project. So, it's not really within the planning commission's discretion at that point to try to sort of horse trade with the concessions that are being requested. The applicant has through their application specified the relief they're seeking under the density bonus. Okay, so that one's off the table. And all the concessions are off the table. Absent facts in the record presented by the Planning Commission that would justify a denial of the requested concessions. Okay, love our state. Yeah, I think to chair Dalthard's point, I guess it's the question. We don't have much discretionary approval over this project. Correct. Denial would put us in some hot water with HCD, or even amending the, yeah. So then why does a project like this cut in the commission? If we can't deny it, we can't change it. I'm just curious, I mean, yeah, under a state law it does require that you review and grant those concessions. As to why state law has written the way that it is, I couldn't. I'd only be guessing. I do think that there's a certain amount of disclosure in terms of the process and the waivers and concessions that's needed. That's done through a public hearing process rather than just being granted over the counter. But Stela does require that these items come before you for consideration of concessions and waivers. The opportunity to overturn as stated by our city attorney to overturn a concession would show that the burden of proof is on the city to show that in fact it's not an economic burden that would prohibit their project. And I think in this particular case it's very hard, it's a very hard hill to climb for the city to show that economically they could do that in the project with pencil. And I think that's been shown at the state level to be so. Yeah, I just want to say for the record the applicant, I appreciate your project. I think love everything about it. I have no beef with it. At Matt Vack, I'll make a recommendation to approve the project. I just wanted to make the fact that, that make the statement that it's not a discretionary. It's ministerial at this point. If it's a, we can't deny it, we can't change it, we can't do anything to it, and it's a great discussion on land use. But it's not a discussion I approve anymore. Yeah, just to the fact of this is the process that is stayed at place before under Dunstead Bones Law. So. I understand, thank you. So I'll make the motion to approve the project. I will second. Here can we have a roll call vote please? Commissioner Mello. Aye. Commissioner Huguichi. Aye. Commissioner Kozak. Aye. Chair Proto Mason. Aye. And Chair Dalton. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. Thank you. Thank you very much. The next item on the agenda is regular business. It is 2024, year-in-review, community and economic development. Recommendation, it is recommended to the Planning Commission receiving file of the report presented by George Meldenado, senior planner. George Floor's yours. Standing by for the presentation, but if I'm reading Chair Douthitz' expression right you're saying go slow and steady with all of the slides that I have so Copy that please But Please. But thank you for the introduction, Chair, and a good evening, commissioners. As you know, this is the year in review, the annual report that we do as now the community and economic development department covering all of our achievement and projects that made progress in the previous calendar year. So this now of course includes building, planning, code enforcement and economic development. So lots of info to cover, so I'll make it quick. But for the folks at home, all of this will be posted on our website. So no information will be lost here. We're going to start off with what we call the current planning portion of what we do that's, our department is responsible for shepherding construction projects through the pipeline. That includes from the entitlement phase to building plan check to actual sticks of the ground. And we're gonna start off with some industrial development off of Miford. This is a project that would merge two lots, demolish the existing building to construct an approximately 150,000 square foot warehouse building. I just wanted to report that the entitlements were approved and demo permits are ready to be issued at the applicant's convenience. I'm moving on over to the A-TEP campus in the Tuxton Legacy area, we have the Goddard Pre-School. This project would be an early childhood development program as well as providing daycare services and this project is complete. And just on the other side of Goddard, we have the two saddleback buildings at A-TEP. We can see the progress of the construction. You can see the iconic kind of arch there, taking form. Construction is ongoing. And just around the corner from both of these sites is the Advantec campus at Advantec campus at A-TEP. This is going to be the new construction of a six-story, approximately 110,000 square foot headquarters building for Advantec, including an approximately 80,000 square foot warehouse facility. Construction is ongoing. Then we have the new dental office building on the corner of Newport and Irvine Boulevard. Construction continues to progress. This would be approximately 4,500 square foot dental office building. And now onto some residential development in the city. Happy to report that the landing at Tustin Legacy, a 400 unit residential neighborhood, is complete. They finalize all of their buildings, and it's completely sold out, and we've got occupants in there. And now off of prospect and Irvine, we have the Jessup by Intracorp. Construction is ongoing. Models are open to the public and this is a 40-unit project consisting of 36 duplex units and four single-family residences. So this is under active construction. And just down the street off the corner of Newport and El Camino Real, we have the KB Homes Project. These are 42 residential units, including seven live work units that are under active construction. And this picture is from a few days ago, so it's taking shape. Now for some commercial entitlements that we approved this past or recently rather, we have, you'll remember, the specialty hospital in the vacant, existing hospital building off of Yorba and Myrtle. A CUP was approved for a skilled nursing facility here. We have a law school that had a conditional use permit approved off of Red Hill and industrial drive. So right across the street from the Tusson Legacy area, this project is in building plan check. We have a cat cafe that was approved right across the street by Clareos. They had a conditional use permit approved and they are under construction. And we have the Revere House at 900 West First Street, which is a project to remodel and do in addition to an existing building for a total of 1,200 square feet. The project is currently under review and getting close to an approval, I believe. Then we have the Quick Quack car wash that was approved and is going through the building plan check process. This would demolish the existing citrus cafe off of Edinger and Red Hill to construct a car wash, making progress through building plan check. Then we have one of our first permanent outdoor dining projects that was approved, a design review. This is for Barolo Cafe here in across the street. They would build an outdoor dining area in the parking lot and about 300 square foot outdoor dining area. They are under construction. Then we have McDonald's off of Red Hill Avenue 14601 Red Hill. This was the demolition of an existing Burger King drive- to construct a two lane McDonald's drive through. It's going through construction as well. We have a Popeye's drive through that was approved to for the vacant service station sites off of prospect. This would demolish that site and rebuild it with the drive-through restaurant. Entitlements were approved and it's making its way through building plan check. We have this interior and plaza redevelopment which would demolish a set of buildings off of Redhill to construct a warehouse building with office space. The entitlements were approved. A demo permit has been issued, and otherwise the construction permits for the new buildings are going through plan check. Then we've got a new Kia dealership in addition to an existing Mazda dealership that is under construction in our auto center. We have a new dental office that's coming in across from the other dental office I was talking about off Newport and Irvine Boulevard going through building plan check. And right across from City Hall at 535 East Main Street we have an addition that's under construction for the existing commercial building in which there will be an urgent care use that had a conditional use permit approved not too long ago. continues on a six- six unit town home project off of San Juan. Construction also continues on a three unit project off of Yorba. Then we have the senior living project named Confluent in the Tusson Legacy area that is going through the entitlement process. These renderings, I believe, are yet to be updated. It is my understanding that the project is being modified to respond to current market conditions, but this is what it would previously look like by Morningstar. And this technically happened in 2025, but I'd be remiss if we didn't bring up the approval of the Irvine company project at Tustin Legacy, more than 1,300 units with a significant, it was a significant effort, I believe. It also includes affordable housing as well. So that entitlements were approved and we're standing by for building plan checks in the middle. Then we have a proposal to construct 73 three story town home projects in the Red Hill Avenue area. This is across from what I always refer to as the big lots plaza with the Del Taco. This is going through the entitlement process. Families forward, we just discussed. I'll go ahead and skip that one. We have a project under review and the entitlement process. This is at the district. They're proposing to demolish and existing big box retail building where PetSmart is currently to construct 450 for rent apartments in the near term with a phase two of an additional 350 for a total of 800 units. This would include not only the design review and such for the buildings, but also a specific plan amendment for the TUSTA Legacy-specific plan. So that is in under active review as of now. And what also ultimately, as you can see on the site plan, include a commercial parking structure to the north in front of Target. And off of Bonita Street, this is the last project. We have a project under review to demolish an existing single family home and construct for town home condominium buildings. So it was a busy year as you can tell and this graphic very briefly summarizes not only the entitlement work that we do which we had 93 submittals come through this past year but also some administrative permits over the counter permits such as special event permits, film permits that is handled by our staff. And we do track our interactions at the front counter. We had more than 5,300 total interactions, including phone calls, visits to the counter, emails, et cetera. So that wraps up the current planning portion of our responsibilities. And now'm going to move on to what I call advanced planning. That includes broadly policy items, ordinance updates, things that are a little bit more long range thinking rather than the immediate development. And we had a number of achievements in 2024 to report. Of course, we completed our housing element rena rezoning project that added housing capacity to the Enderly Center, the Marketplace, and the Tussle Legacy. We implemented some of our programs and our housing element to streamline the production of housing. We are in the process in the final stages rather of implementing our objective design standards, which I'll remember. And there are a variety of other updates to the zoning code that we did to increase its clarity and ease of use, as well as implemented some recommendations to the Red Hall Avenue and downtown commercial core specific plans to reduce barriers to housing. So the reason effort is complete, as I mentioned, objective design standards ODS are actually scheduled to go to the City Council next week on April 1st. Those amendments to the specific plans that I mentioned included reducing parking requirements at large actually not just in the specific plan as well as private storage requirements. Among other actions that were taken by the city council, such as suspending the requirement for affordable housing in Lufys for certain types of projects as well as setting the land value in the downtown core to match that in the Red Hall Avenue specific plan, I believe 2.5 million, for the purposes of calculating park fees. We did a variety of updates to our code. As I mentioned, to streamline the process, such as making the conditional use permit requirement for alcohol licenses a little bit more streamlined something that potentially the director can take care of or rather the zoning administrator can take care of without the need for formal hearing if there's no dissenting comments among other amendments to the code. And so on we've worked on putting forward a public facing map, various maps rather, to promote historic preservation, amended our code to comply with various state laws, such as in this case a state cannabis law and other actions. Another state's requirement that we amended our code to abide by was to remove any conditional use permit requirement for housing wherever it was stated in our code, as well as making transitional and supportive housing, a permitted use. And that about wraps up the advanced planning efforts from the previous calendar year. A subset of advanced planning is historic preservation, which is something that we take great pride in, especially historic preservation week, which was our inaugural historic preservation week that we had in May of this past year, where we had a week long series of events interacting with the community. We had booths. We had tables in front of the library as well as some walking tours. And we won an award for it at the Orange County APA American Planning Association Awards, the Cultural Heritage Award, to hats off to the historic preservation team. We awarded a Millsat contract for 320 West Main Street, and we nominated a couple properties to receive a historic plaque. And we did a lot of great work as was evidenced earlier tonight working with local nonprofits, especially through our CDBG Fund program, where we funded more than $100,000 this past year towards various organizations that do great work in touch and such as families forward among others. Now, onto other functions of our department, community preservation or code enforcement. We actually saw a reduction in cases that were opened compared to the previous calendar year, about 200 less. And you can see the graphic here for a breakdown of what some of those code cases may have been about. Happy to report that there was a decrease in the amount of graffiti removal that was needed this previous year as well About a thousand less instances of graffiti that needed to be removed which was a cost reduction of about 63,000 And the building division our our sister division in the department in many ways continue to to support the construction activities going on. They issued more than a thousand construction permits this past year. As you can see in the graphic, it encompasses various kinds of development such as new residential construction, additions, commercial work, and so on. Which means that for all the permits that were issued, we kept our building inspectors busy as well. This is a graphic summarizing the breakdown of more than 14,000 inspections that they conducted, making sure our buildings stay standing. And this is a big year for our department. We were happy to merge with our colleagues in economic development and we're happy to be the community and economic development department now. So I'm happy to report on their behalf. Some of their awesome achievements, which was a new business concierge program. We are making an effort to have a one-stop shop for new businesses that are starting in our city that need to be connected to resources, to understand the process, to troubleshoot, anything that might be going on. So we have some amazing staff that are launching these efforts and bringing them to new heights. So we have some contact information there. And generally, we aim to guide new businesses, or businesses in general, even if they're existing through whatever city approval process, processes, they have to go through, connecting them to resources, and saving them time, money, and eliminating guesswork. So on that note, in 2024, there were 340 new businesses that opened in the city, about a third of which were home-based businesses. There was a more than $84,000 that was allocated to various programs run by our in economic development, including business training such as the CEO mom's training program among others. And economic development is at the forefront of any affordable housing projects that are going on in the city. They are responsible for in some respects keeping track of the affordable housing and making sure that it's all working as intended. And of course the temporary shelter as well that we have city net performs, homeless outreach services and provides monthly impact reports. And we can see on this graphic here there are more than 800 interactions with people needing use of the temporary shelter and more than 150 positive exits from those programs. And very briefly, we just to report some grant activity. We did receive grant from the Department of Energy for Energy Efficiency purposes, CDBG, course among others that we regularly work with such as the yearly motor vehicle subvention funds, AB 2766. And the last thing that I have for you, this is just a summary of a lot of the highlights of the year if you wanted a quick reference. But other than that, that is all the information that I have for you, and I'm happy to take any questions. Excellent job, George. Um, open it up for questions or comments. There are a lot of dentists coming to test in. I do have a question. That building on the corner of Newport and Irvine has been under construction for easily six years. Is this something that Shukluce recently? I just saw some progress on there. They're making some progress in recent days. I actually had communication with the property owner yesterday. So they're moving along. They're making progress. And it's my understanding. I know it's been an ongoing project, a very visible project, about a prominent quarter. It's not on our side, the city side. I'm just curious. I've asked about this, I think, over the. I'm just curious is it is it just with the builder is it plans is it. When you say there's progress there's progress but it is slow as molasses and that is a very prominent street corner. Through to chair. Yes the project had many difficulties from the very beginning. They had issues with the prior owner not being the contractor. So they had to take care the financial before moving forward with the construction. And since then, they were having hard time finding the right general contractor. And then again, with the dental office, there's a lot of equipment, power that they need to equip to accommodate the use. So it is slow, but as George had mentioned, they are moving forward. Okay. Good to know. The other thing, there's about 30 to 40 percent of the, some of the developments in our, in the success, which has been an amazing year that never came across our, and this is embarrassing to say, but I'm nine years on the planning commission, and I don't think I understand the criteria of what gets in front of us versus what does not all the time. And it's, and so I am requesting it. I could put this in concerns a little bit more education on that. I don't know if it's because of density bonuses. If there's, if there's something that pushes it to the dius and in front of us, I know that's changed over the years. So I think I need a real just fundamental understanding of that with some things. And the last thing is George, I'd like you to send me the overview of the business concierge so I can take it to the city of Long Beach and hand it to them and help them work with businesses. All right, that's all. Okay. Any other questions? I thank you, George, that was refreshing after my little concern with the last project we were talking about. It's good to see the cities move forward in a positive manner with so many of these obstacles placed before you. I appreciate that you're reminding me of everything we've overcome these past few years. And how the state keeps getting in the way. But let's go back to the affordable units at the Jessup and KB I think both happen. Is that a program being administered by the city now or is that being administered by the individual builders or is there some kind of collaboration going on? To the chair, it is a collaboration between the city and the builder. So the requirement is that they need to set aside 5% very low and the city typically enter into housing agreement with the developer. And then from there, they need to maintain the affordability for ownership is about 45 years rentals for 55 years. Do they have to present the the applicant for approval through the city or does do they vet that themselves? They do Select the city needs to verify that they do comply with all the regulatory Okay, but if somebody wanted to obtain one of those units, they would go to the developer first. And then once they're vetted there, then they go to the city to say, yes, that person qualifies. That is correct. Okay, thank you. And those affordable units are no longer required for projects going forward, right? Because we didn't wish that our inclusionary housing requirements. Can you repeat the questions? I thought last year, didn't we ease up on our inclusionary housing? That's what the Jessup developer came back and asked for basically their money back or a requirement to be waived. with the City Council, what they did is to temporarily suspend the payment of the housing in Luffy for 36 months. And so they could hypothetically not build those affordable units, which would require an in Luffy, but since those were suspended, is that how it could work? To summarize, the voluntary work for a housing ordinance is a menu item. So depending upon what the developer has chosen where they want to meet the requirements, if they are to pick the 5%, they would need to provide 5% on-site plus payment of in-luffy. So what had happened in the past year, the council decided to waive the in-luffy portion. But the developer still needs to provide the 5% on-site. unless they pick the higher amount of affordability in which they do not need to pay the in-lufee, but they need to pay the higher percentages of the affordable housing on site. Thank you. Through the chair, this is a loaded question, tying it to chair, that's a question Have sales of the affordable units at the Jessup, for the affordable units specifically, has that been easy? Yes, so for the market rate, what I was told is that they had no problem, but they were having a hard time finding the very low income family to occupy the two units. Not to get ahead of myself, but that's the issue with the Affordable Forest Sale Program is that it's a high, it's a difficult threshold to qualify for. So I think looking, going forward with our affordable or inclusionary housing ordinances or how we approach affordable housing, we should look at for sale, specifically how it's treated. For example, coast to me, so it does not require an affordable requirement for for sale projects and neither does Anaheim right now because it is difficult. Yeah, it is interesting. Yeah. I have some additional comments from George. Thank you for the presentation. Next time, make it longer. Some real-time feedback. We've been very complimentary of the Pliant Apartments and our new administration. And I really do. I really do, we've done a great job changing planning here, but I'm also getting feedback from some friends that are constructing a tenant improvements or other projects and tests and that building and state, he's a pleasure to work with that our inspectors are great. So it's you guys are doing a great job. Plants are coming in ahead of time. And inspectors are being reasonable. So a great job all around. Also the merging of economic development under community development, I think that's great. And that's also presented itself here in the presentation from George is I think this planning commission is getting a much fuller picture of what's going on in the city. Because I feel like a lot of times, test and legacy was left out. For example, that best start development, I had no idea what that was. First time, you know, we've seen it on this dius. The morning star development, you know, the fact that it's probably changing is also interesting for us to know on this dius. I know it creates a lot of consternation with you. The more questions I have to ask. But I do really appreciate that. Again, this is probably a different era in Tustin. I do have concerns that, you know, that advantage excites pretty interesting, but it's also on South Orange County Community College District land. And if it's just an office building, and I don't know what else it is, why didn't Tustin Legacy get that? Why didn't the City get that? And I know it's a bit of a different era. In addition, with respect to affordable housing, George, you left out the 330 units that we approved for testing for Irvine company because it looked like we said 12. But you know, the city's done a great job with meeting or delivering affordable housing to frankly not just the city of but it's probably going to be serving a lot more of the county. But again, speaking to a different era, if we're not for how much confidence I have in families forward, and they really are our premier organization. They're probably top three in the county with addressing homelessness and food insecurity. If we're not for families forward, I really would have a concern of how our grant money, that $2 million grant that the city's providing families forward is being utilized, because you know, that's, we're conserving 250 grand a unit. You know, we had concerns about underground in the power lines. We could have made that a condition of our housing agreement, but more importantly, I think it could have been better utilized to fund the gap on you know that permanent support of housing site we have on Warner and down at the district. It seemed like an again I support the project I think family forward is a great organization but the return of our investment there was odd. We're lacking, especially given the amount of, hand-wringing we had over the affordable housing requirements in the Reddell-specific plan and the Dantan-specific plan. We accumulated some money and we kind of blew it on one small project where typically, I frankly, typically, that probably could have generated a 40-unit project in the city. So again, different era. I'm thrilled that community development, economic development are not together. But let's take my individual advice is taking more analytical approach to how we're utilizing our dollars. But again, great presentation, George. I love the updates. It's great. Much appreciated. Through the chair. Thank you very much for the presentation. It was very well done and thorough. I was wondering through the chair again, wondering if there was any component, I recognize this is my first meeting but any component to update the not update but yeah, keep informed the Planning Commission on what the Community Services Commission and Parks and Recre up to As a year. Through the chair. So, each the department they do their own reporting to the City Council and to their commission. So, for example, I believe the Parks and Rec Director reported the number for last year to the City Council meeting. maybe about a month ago. So we typically do not report other departments accomplishments, but it's something that we can probably have them forward to the commission if you're interested. Don't be great, thank you. The commission or codex point, you know, I had one reaction with our arts commission a couple of years ago, and I didn't realize it in initiative to do some public art at the legacy, and they were trying to raise funds for that. So those initiatives would be great to hear, you know, a planning commission presentations. Yeah. A quick question on that Bonita project, slide 30. That was a pretty good sized project. Was that under review to bring before the commission or is that a by-right project? Slide 30, yes, at 10 to 52 Bonita Street. That does include a tentative map so that will come before you at some point. Interesting. Yeah, it's a condominium project. If it was just multi-family, did that fit within the general plan for a by-right project? Yes, if it were not for the map, chances are this would have been permitted by right ministerially. Yeah. Interesting. So in theory, that's what that whole neighborhood could look like if they all built up to their highest potential. That was pretty big. No, like I said, I was just thought that was interesting. But now I will thank you very much George for the presentation. Oh, do I have a... Is that a receiving file that drops make a motion? Do we have to make a motion to? It is a receiving file item, so there's no need for a formal motion. That sounds good. Consider it received and filed. I will move on to Commissioner Concerning's comments. Roll back to justina community development director community and economic development director comments. Thank you chair dotted and members of planning commission. I do just have one announcement. So our building division in conjunction with the Economic Development and the Chamber of Commerce, we are going to have a announcement. So our building division in conjunction with the Economic Development and the Chamber of Commerce we are going to have a workshop for these able access for businesses. So we are inviting all the businesses in testing to take advantage of these workshop. It will be next Wednesday, April 2nd at 1.30 pm here at the Council of Chambers. All these information will be uploaded to the webpage along with we are going to ask the Chamber of Commerce to push this information also to the members to take advantage of this workshop. And that is all I have to report tonight. Thank you, Chair. Excellent. Were there any zone administrator approvals between now and the last meeting, do you know? I will let Jay report since I was not at the last zoning administrator meeting. Yeah, so we did have two ABC licenses for two restaurants, which off the top my head I can't remember the addresses or the names of the restaurants because it's been more than a week. But yes, we did have a zoning administrator. So if you're interested in which ones those are, I'm more than happy to forward that information. Oops. Rosefish. Rosefish. Offa walnut. On walnut. And then moreso cafe on testing village. Elmerzo Cafe onin village way. Thank you. Yeah, that was that was a last minute item for me to serve as a zoning administrator because unfortunately just you know was out that day unexpectedly. So yes. And if I could I would also just like to announce that we did promote. we had some promotions and hires in our department. So George was promoted from a associate planner to senior planner. As you may or may not know, Samantha, who was with us, she had letter housing element, housing element rezoning effort had taken up position with another city. So we had an opportunity to promote George. And then we did hire a new old assistant planner, Jose, who worked with us previously, had taken a job out in the inland empire. He has now come back to us to be here again as a new, a newbie. So we do have a new, a filled a new position. So that's Jose Yara. Any if I may, we also have another promotion, Adrienne Deliva. It is now our Senior Management Analyst. Yes. Gradible. Congratulations to all of the promoted people. Sounds good. I will now bring it you to Commissioner Gucci for his year as a chair, great job, and congratulations, chaired out with and for Tim Mason. Welcome back,em Mason. Welcome back, Emma Bord. And thank you for staff for everything you do for us and for the great responses we got today and this overview of what happens at the city here. Thanks. Commissioner Kaguci. Yeah, I'd like to commend senior management analyst, Adrian, for running a very innovative CDBG workshop. I think it was, I think, frankly, I think it's a good example for other cities, but it was engaging and it was real-time feedback. We were doing a survey up here while we were moving through the agenda. So great, I much appreciated. I am also a little disappointed in staff and us as commissioners. I just learned that Columbus, Tusson's birthday coincides with St. Patrick's Day. We've been missing a huge drinking opportunity. So, I had somebody fortunately from Historic Side and Society told me to come down to the Historic Side. They had a little, it's the first time I think they ever had it and had a little gathering and they also put a little, birthday hat on Columbus Tuston's statue. I actually think it's kind of a cool tradition. So let's put that on the radar and make that a little bit more publicized, I think. But I'm going to be like, congratulations, Tanner. Good luck. And that was my answer for me. I was wondering what that party hat was. It was touching. Commissioner Kozak. Yes. Congratulations to Chair and New Chair Pro Tem. And thank you guys for having me. I look forward to working with commissioners and with staff and and for the city and For the city council and I want to thank also the community services commission for having me for six years on With them, so Thank you for welcoming me and I look forward to a nice of run here Chair pro Temason. Welcome, Commissioner Kozak. I thought somebody made an error on the agenda. Seeing Kozak on there, though, we love Kozak. So welcome to the commission. And thank you, former Chair Higuichi. You brought a lot of great conversation, good questions, and having us look at things differently. And I appreciate that. There's more conversation up here on the dius. Thanks to you. Great job to you, George. Congratulations on your promotion. So much to cover, a lot going on, and that the fact that justina has taken on a second full-time job and at the same time, it really speaks volumes of obviously the confidence the city has in you, but also we recognize the amount of work that it takes to do something like that. So thank you very much for all that you do and everything that you're doing. So I have one minor little thing and I don't know you guys can direct me when you drive down Main Street and the lights are on the it's not Main Street. Oh my gosh. Main and Thank you. Thank you. The lights on the trees, they're, they're, they don't work. Some of them work, some of them don't. I don't know who's in charge of that, but I've been meaning to say that for the last two meetings. So thank you. Yes. I was very happy to see Commissioner Cosack, because that's a name that I already knew and very excited for you to be serving with us for the next four years. Chair Hibuchi, thank you again for your past year of leading this great commission and thank you again to staff. So with that and no other comments, I will adjourn this meeting at 828. And the next scheduled meeting is for Tuesday, April 8th, 2025. Thank you. you you