Yeah. Yeah. Down to your second hand. No, this is. I don't know what you're going to say. You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? Yeah. We're 100 out of the way. We're the students of the group. Yeah. So I got friends in all ages. Yeah, I got a sort of a bar of heron's tea. I don't know what you're going to say. the I'm not going to have lots of names. So, I'm going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. I'm not going to have lots of names. We're going to do it, Gallow. Yeah, that could be based on you. No Gallow's in my hands. So thank you guys, everybody for carving out some time. And often times I go without thanking folks who are volunteering at the time, service to the community, so I appreciate it. I was a lot going on capturing the game one of the playoffs tonight. So everybody had probably like, take its own glass and you gave it up to be your D.A. So I appreciate that. We have a fairly, I won't say lengthy agenda, but hefty agenda today just a lot of things that we want to cover. And that's because I think a lot of things are transpired over the last month since we met here together. The first one I think, as most of you know, Becky's out for the tonight for her husband past recently. And there should be, they're taking a card going around. So you're having a chance to chat with them. You see or just remember that and certainly we offer our condolences. Now anything else to be sound there? No, I think we need to be able to do when she might be back on that. Okay, okay. What do we do? So maybe we'll see what the next thing. All right, so we wanna do a call to word here. A roll call. Roll call. The roll call. The roll call. Go for it. Go for it. Here. Michelle Baramani. Alan Brangman. Jim Coil. Sandy Kitts. Here. Matt Quinn. Here. Prior to this. Here. Elliot Lam. Leon Ross. May 1. Here. Nate. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm sorry. Let me hold it down here. All right. Any public comments? No public comments, I saying. All right. So, dang it as here. Last time I saw you, we ran into shows at the show that are going to stay. Right. That's right. So, kids, you all recording? Huh? You all recording? Yeah, we're recording. Right? We're recording? Yeah. Yeah, we're recording. Okay, good to see you. She here is here to talk about our affordable living policy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. for planning tomorrow. Now be brief, because this is the eight-seventh agenda. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So basically we this is a draft. It's been a long time coming. It's been over a year that we have been working on this. So I'm just going to go through the draft and then the purpose of this meeting is to get you all's paid back. I'm gonna be coming back to you after it goes to the planning, after it goes to council, they send it to the planning commission, then it goes to boards and commissions. I'm gonna come back to you all for your official comments and that kind of thing and approval. So right now I'm just going over the policy with you. Just to get some general feedback because we're in the drafting stage. So the main thing is so why update? We update the affordable living policy every five years. So this is a five year update. And what is affordable housing? So just to explain affordable housing, affordable is when a household is not spending any more than 30% of their total household income towards housing. So that can be, you can be really high income and really low income. But if you're spending more than 30% of your total income towards housing, then that is not important. Many people are one paycheck away from that, no matter what income you are. So just for the purposes of discussion, we have low income, which is 30 to 50% of the area median income. But it does it makes that, I don't know if you guys are familiar with this, I'm just assuming everyone doesn't. But those are income designations that HUD takes when they take the area median income, which is Northern Virginia, Maryland, and DC. So low income is 30% to 50% AMI, 40%, so that's 46,000 to 77,000. moderate income is 51 to 80% AMI and that's 46,000 to 77,000. Moderate income is 51 to 80% AMI, and that's 78,000 to 123,000. So these are the incomes of the promised category. Workforce is 81% AMI, 220% AMI. That's 124,285,000. And all of those are based off of the four person household at $154,700. So four person households that has that combined income, all of these are set off of that. And we have a portable housing in the city for all of those incomes. So just so you know that. Let me go to the next one. Oh, wait. So, what is the comprehensive plan? That's important because this Affordable Living Policy is now going to be a comprehensive plan amendment. And that's new. It's never happened before. The comp plan is a policy document that guides development and investment in the city. It has many different topics which housing is one of them. The affordable living policy includes, we have categories, goals, priorities within those goals, strategies to achieve the goals. We have an action plan at the back that tells me how we're going to do it. And then we have a monitoring plan which includes a housing dashboard that's going to be uploaded after this is adopted. And you'll be able to see in real time how we're doing on all these things. So you can go to the next. And so the purpose of the policy is to identify key demographic and housing supply data. It reviews. We looked at all of the existing housing policies and programs, we looked at what all the other localities were doing. And then the work group was to provide recommendations that advance housing goals, and so that we can address the needs of affordable housing for city residents. We go to the next page. And then this just shows you who was all in our work group. We have met over a year. You know, they've come back for a few things. I think everybody's kind of like, okay, we've been here a year. We're done. So it was a very diverse group. You can see we had the housing commission, H.S. Act planning to liaison from Header Bob with your liaison and he really kept a soundtrack. He was great. And then we had the city council liaison. We had the director of the shelter. We had someone who represents renters in the community. We tried to get a really diverse group. We had a mortgage lender, really good, but we'll see what's in the next page. So these are the focus areas that I was talking about. Looking at all those things, we had rental housing, home ownership, diversity of housing, stock, preservation of affordable housing, unhoused and wraparound services, funding and governance. So those are the focus areas. And so while we were in the process, the city attorney made a determination that the policy would be best served to be incorporated into the comp plan. And we're really excited about that because that gives us that gives us more team. And I'm like once it's adopted, the city will be able to use this. We'll be able to. Yeah, I mean, it's just we're excited about it actually becoming part of the comprehensive plan. So it'll be part of chapter 10. And then in November 20th, all of the goals that we developed, the work group went through and prioritized all of the goals, which we have 20 goals, and they prioritized, I think, about eight. So as we go through this, I put a little yellow star so you can see the priorities. So you can go to the next page. And so these are all the sections. I think Naomi said this out to you guys. I printed out. It's pretty long. So, and that's because OCOM made it so that it's successful for everyone much easier to read and that type of thing. So it added a bit more pages, but I think it's about a document as a result. So those are all the sections you can look at. You can go to the next page. So the first topic area is rental housing. So within rental housing, just to give you some updates. So rental housing, you can see, we'll just give you some backgrounds on rental housing. The city has two main rental housing programs and those are the 80's program, which is the affordable dwelling unit program, where we provide units for rents that are reduced rate as a result of us negotiating with developers. And then we have the CCAU program, which is the City Committed Affordable Unit Program. And that serves those people at the lower incomes, because we really don't have anything to serve folks at that income at all. Now we have 12 units. And so the wait list right now for our ADU program, we have about, I think about 700 people on the wait list. And 50% of those people are at the lower incomes between 50 and 60% AMI. So there is a big need for us to have housing for those lower incomes. So you can look here, the first goal is we wanna increase the percentage of affordable units in new development. Currently we're averaging about 6%. The last developments we've had 10%, which is a good thing, but workgroup is advocating for 12%. I mean, it may or may not happen, these are goals. So, and then the second goal is to increase the percentage of affordable units of total housing stock in the city, from 3% of all, from all housing stock to 6%. So that would mean like any development, any of that, we're reach that 6% of course I mean what's 3% of the total housing stock right now? So I have to add here to the back of the court this comes from the housing commission housing targets and what we did is we looked at actual numbers. And so, right now, our current baseline of 3%, we have 216 units in the city, across all the income levels. We have 10 and 30, 40%, 182, 50 to 60% AMON, 18 and 70 80% and not 6 from 90 to 110%. So what we would like to do is get that up to 228 from 3% to 6%. Sorry, one last question on that one. Was there any discussion on dictating type of unit? Yes. In size? Yes. Is that in your presentation? It's on the last page of the report. Okay. So it's a whole target list that talks about, and this is something that Council has really asked for. Okay. So just for your FYI, the recommendations that we're saying is we want the target mix we're saying 110 at 30 to 40% AMI 110 at 50 to 60% AMI We don't need any more units between 70 and 80% AMI because there's not a demand for that right that we see We already have and we're saying I'm sorry, Dana, I was talking about one better and two better. Oh, one better and two better. It's not wrong, it's not the same with anyone. I think that's what you see. I don't know. Bigger units is the general's name. Yeah. Yeah, we want larger units for larger households. And then we also need one bedrooms, because those of the people that come in. People that want a larger unit or people that are one person household and one bedroom. The last development, I'll say we had at Weston Broad, we had studios there and we got 10% of units there, which is a good because normally, like I said, we get 6%. But some of those studios are at 80% AMI. We can't really rent those, because those rents are so high that a person, the people that come in our office, do not want to pay over $2,000 for a studio apartment. I mean, market rate, they also have really high market rate studios over there. And they have all the amenities, and you can walk to Metro, and it's fabulous. But the people that come in our office are trying to have an affordable place to live. So it's not really, we've been able to rent too. So far, we have 10 more to rent. Those just sit vacant. You guys guys right now, there's some other people, you can't get eight days. They're also having trouble renting the market rate once too. So it's not just, I'm saying at that particular property, that price point is just a really hard one to rent, especially for a studio. When you can get a studio and another property in the city for less than, like our eight use at Pearson Square are really big. You know, like double that size and the rent is much less. So many people choose to wait to get a larger unit and a less rent. So, but I don't want to be your off top of the. I'm going to be. So I think I talked about goal three. So yes, so we want to, like I mentioned, we want to increase the percentage of deeply affordable units to 25% of the total. Do you even go to my next page? Can I have something on the rental? If you can't forget to bring it up. it just can be a surgery. Welcome, congratulations on the report. I have a chance to read the whole thing. Oh, thank you. This is a draft. It's not good. I understand. What am I concerned is that not for the AMI people, but the rents in general are going off the roof in decision. I mean some of the departments were asked in 18, 19% increase in one year. So it's just starting to be unaffordable in your market rate units for a lot of people. That's it. I've told the people that moving out of certain buildings because they just went before the market rates. So it's another matter besides the force of our housing folks. We had a bill in the legislature a year before last to try to give local governments red control authority and it didn't make it through. I don't know if they tried it again this year. But it didn't pass. But in lieu of that, I have suggested we ought to have a red stabilization policy in city that ought to be part of this, that each year we would issue to all the apartment buildings, but we consider a fair increase for that year. And then you're trying to put some pressure to bring the rents down in the general population besides the one other people were trying to reach. We did that in the town where I lived and it worked. Was it in Virginia? Maryland. Because I don't know that we have the authority to do that in probably doing this to the past. In Virginia, but we, I mean, we would love for something like that to happen. I know with the affordable units, the properties that we were, we have not seen an increase above a 5%. I mean, we set the rents. So they have a range, they can't go past that. For your units. For our units. But like you said for more. We're going to wait. There's going off the roof. It extends chasing a lot of people out of the city. Yes. The average rent in four years has gone from 2005 to 2005 to 70. I'm sure it's more efficient. I was in 2020. But rent stabilization would have the effect. I agree. I mean, with monitor what people are asking, say hey, the city policy is based on the CPI, that a 5% would be justified. That would all be about authority. Like does the city have the authority to vote? And that's the question that does be if you turn. On this, to one, I mean, all authority. I think what Jim is suggesting is a suggestion, right? Because I don't have teeth behind it. But even then, I still have some experience. I think there's actually the data across the US that the rent control doesn't work. In fact, actually, the opposite issue is this urge and private investment. And people actually, there's a prominent developer in Maryland inside there, actually not doing business in Maryland. And he's one of our business, my government can't implement it in rent control. And so I would be very wary of this. And so we actually look at some research. And we can consider suggestion part of it, whether that would have any similar effect. The violence and wrecking Trump's and wrecked stabilization is just a policy statement by the city that goes out to all the apartment buildings and it can have an effect on them not trying to. You're not influenced, not regularly. Yeah, you don't control it, but you put some pressure on them. You're a good business person be careful. I know, but it says that they advocate that you don't go about 5% increase every year, do you think it's fair? I mean, that would be a good policy. If there was some money. Well, we used the CPI, then yeah, a basis for legitimate. It could be 4% 1 to your 6% from that. Yeah. So you could use those private investors and you can make one in partitions, because that inflation is interacting their costs. So, in other words, they just can end up with flour and nobody's going to invest in the city. Loans want to write, someone's going to be underwater, things will be unfinanceable. Rank control or stabilization is going to be our own right now. I literally had a call. I call it, well, I'm literally out of meeting with one of the largest four-wilding developers in the country. And, you know, folks are starting to blacklist Maryland, essentially because of that. Another microphone for the record from just going to find out, even, even, you know, you can't legally do it. But let's say, let it be. Yeah, I know we got two assholes in here, right? What? Dill and Bull State? legally do it but it's here stay here. No, we can legally do it, but it's here. Al is right. We can't legally do it, but it's like, you want to get in that policy, just anyway. OK, I want to keep you guys on track. Keep rolling. We got that agenda. OK, so the next one is home ownership. So just to let you know a little bit about home ownership. So the city has an affordable home ownership program. But we just started about two years ago with our Amazon grant. And that program allows us to purchase units, do $20,000 in renovations and sell them out of reduced rate. Because of that, we sold 10 homes in the city to people that are below 80% of AMI. And we have not done that since 2008. So we're really excited about that program. Now we've got Amazon grant. City hold ownership in that, in that for that reduced interest. There are covenant for covenant. There are covenant for the government. So the goal is to try to keep them affordable. So the medium home price in 2024 was a million three. And so, you know, homeowners have doubled the income of our renters in the city. And so what we want to do is increase this opportunities for people at 80 to 120 percent AMI, because they don't have opportunity. People come into our program really wanting to participate because they just can't afford to live here. And we also feel that, well, I'll get into that. So anyways, we also want to incentivize development of units and try to get more homeowners in the city. And then I forgot to mention, you can see the star shows that Gold For is a priority goal from the work group You go to the next page Preservation is a big one So preservation So with this one we want to retain the existing committed units in the city or or not you want to have enough new units to offset the loss that we will have We also want to support aging in place for those seniors or people who want to stay in their homes so biggest Preservation issue that we have in the city right now is the fields That's 96 units of affordable housing We want to do everything we can to preserve those units. And then Pearson Square has 15 units that expire 1580s that expire in 2027. So we did, one of our other uses of those Amazon funds was to we worked with Bob. He was, but it was actually his idea for us to go to the rebuilding where they have teacher workforce units, they have nine units, and we used Amazon funds to buy down those units so that they would remain, once the covenant wore off, they would remain affordable for another ten years. We would like to try to do that again with other properties in the city. Or be creative, something creative like that to try to retain affordability. So that's the type of thing that we would like to do. And 14% of the population is aging, so we really want to have people be able to stay in their units. So we can go to the next slide. And then housing stock. So the city primarily has single family and multi-family stock, like it's equally divided. And so our goal is we wanna ensure adequate stock that there's a spectrum of housing. Not just single family homes and not just mixed-use developments. We want to have town homes, do complexes, all of those things that are making things affordable. And so we've had some, you know, in the city we've had the accessory ordinance that we're looking at, the T-zone, all those things, we feel are good things that will hopefully allow some of these things to happen like the town homes that are being proposed down the street and that type of thing. We see that as a good thing. Those homes that we sold, I think nine of them have been condos and I think one was a town home. We are about to sell our first single unit. So we just want to have those opportunities there. And then the gold nine is like Lady said, encourage larger house home units, two plus bedrooms and multifamily properties. And so you know that's an ask that we have. Even a single person, you know, like we have some one bedroom dens. I mean, eventually family's going to grow. That happens with the TWUs. They're all one bedrooms or one bedroom juniors. And then teachers, they come to the city, their household expands, and then they can't live there anymore because the unit is not big enough. or or they can raise after a year or two and then they can't, you know, they have to move. So that's what we found with the T.W. So those, we want to, like I talked about, the policies and initiatives to increase housing stock diversity and that is also in the compliment. So we'll go to the next page. So, unhoused the wraparound services. And this is, if you can want to expand housing and options for people, zero to 30% AMI. So, that's homeless, no housing, to very low 30% AMI. So, like if you look at Winter Hill, most of I say about 70 of the people that are in those 80 units have housing choice vouchers, and they fall within the 30% to 50% AMI range. And that's a great thing because those are seniors and persons with disabilities. And you want to have that option. But other than that, in our CCAU program, there are some, you know, super affordable units located throughout the city. But we want to expand that. And then we want to retain or expand on how services at the property are. So we're going through that process of what that's gonna be. That's probably 10-year-out thing, but I know we did have a tap. And so obviously, H-SAC housing commission and the shelter is hoping that we'll be able to retain those 12 beds that are out the shelter or expand them. We would like to expand right now. It's 10 beds for males and two beds for females and we would like to increase the beds for women. And then we want to look at what are the needs? Maybe there's a bigger need for the homeless in the cities. We want to. In our office, just from what we've seen, our housing specializes in a lot more time with the homeless population in the city. There's mental health needs, substance abuse. And she usually spends about four hours per client. When someone sees somebody in the city, they always call her and she works with me. Your police officer, they go out and visit that person and try to address needs. People may or may not take services. They may talk to her or may not. They may have been offered housing, you know, and make the choice not to take it. I mean, that's not something some people have income and they chose not to take it. So, I mean, we can't force people to take options. And did your group talk about single room occupancy and potential future for that? There's a list. They're starting to build these in your having done profits running and so forth. That is something that we would love to have. Sometimes about that during the tap. Yeah. We were like tap, our table was talking about that. Yeah, that would be a great thing. How many could you put in that? We are. Right now we provide a list. We have a list of all the single room occupancies and Fairfax and the city and people. If they're coming and looking for something, we can give them that list. But something like that would be that zero to 30%. Right, yeah. How's it? 40 young people who need just to get their working workplace. Exactly. And even, I mean, you know, like I said, people just starting out just going to run a room. It's hard to find. Right. You know what I mean? So they come to our office looking, I mean, Craigslist is an option, but that's not always, you know, the safest option. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's, we've I've advertised our units on Craigslist trying to get people to come, but you know, so that's one thing. And then we want to advocate for an expansion. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's, we've advertised our Unix Long Bites list trying to get people to come, but that's one thing. And then we want to advocate for an expansion of Medicaid options for housing services. Hopefully those Medicaid cuts don't come, but they may. So the region was kind of preparing for that. So you can go to the next slide. Funding, okay. So these are the bills we have under funding. We want to prove the understanding of needs along how to continue them. Secure a dedicated annual index source of funding. We're already doing that. So Council, with their financial policies, they said that they wanted to have the affordable housing fund, which is a pot of money that developers make contributions to. We want to have a long range planning because we didn't have that. So now we have a six year plan that runs concurrent with the CIP. So we can do long range planning to meet future needs. So we're really excited about that. We have categories within that six-range plan and they are the CCIU program, the Affordable The Homeownership Program I told you about the acquisition strike fund which is the Virginia building. six-range plan and they are the CCIU program, the Affordable Home Ownership Program I told you about the Acquisition Strike Fund, which is the Virginia Village units, which we want to be able to purchase and possibly long-term do something and make an affordable housing grant, the City gets CDG and home funding through Fairfax County, we're a part of there. We've been added to their territory because we don't have enough low income people in the city to qualify on our own. And so we're giving those grants to housing nonprofits that deal with low to moderate income folks. And then the other ones are the housing need assessment and the housing preservation fund to meet some of those preservation needs that I talked about. And then committing annual funding that goes into that long range plan. And this is a stretch goal, target amount of affordable housing funding to 1,680, you know, eventually by 2040. Hopefully we'll get there. It's a goal, like it's like. We'll go to the next page. And then governance. So basically you could look at all of these. Strengthening existing policy structure, by updating the legal authority, enhancing transparency. We want to make sure that our clients and people that use our programs actually get a say-so in what happens with those programs. We're trying to make sure that they are part of commissions. You know when we have these work groups, like we had tried to make that work group diverse so that we can have some users of these programs given us some real-time advice. That's been invaluable. Just recently we had one of the users of our programs. We had all these plans trying to think what was it that we were going to do when she said that doesn't make any sense. The people that I know that are in this program will never do that. We wouldn't have known that if she hadn't said it and she hadn't been in the table. I think there could be a lot more diversity and inclusivity with the commissions in the city. That's just kind of my pet peeves. It's all kind of homogeneous. A lot of owners, people that are not low income, you know, either that medium income or high income, making a lot of decisions about people in programs. So, that's just a little bit of a lot. So if you wanna establish and maintain dialogue with city partners, including developers, faith organizations, nonprofits, so we wanna keep this going. We did with our work group, H-SAC, housing commission, we're all working together as a matter of fact. Next week we have a combined meeting, human services advisory council and housing commission. We're gonna start meeting together to do planning together because human services and housing go together. So we wanna do that. So that's mainly what we're trying to do with governments. Quick question for you, my mom, the next time I'm at it. Do you guys have the ability to negotiate within common times of SC's after projects bill, say abroad in Washington, and maybe say we can't current these eight one bedrooms at this rate? Can you give one up and make one 30 percent? We can keep anybody to do that within anything at this point. We can't change the covenant. It's actually, we're asking that question. It's with the, so you're turning right now, we're asking because this same thing happened at Broad and Washington, down in West Broad. Third, three oh my way to the Westbrook. At 301 Westbrook, they had units at 100, it was like 110% and they weren't renting. And so they actually came to us and asked, could they rent them at 90%, at 80% and you know, staff was like, are you kidding? Yes. Well that's a cap, that's one time it was a cap, right? So they could, so they could below it. They could go below it, but it wasn't written that way in the company. I mean that would have, yeah, we had, we had units at 60, 80, I think, 110. Those were the, that was, and that's the only property where we have units that high. And that was because it was part of the negotiations when Harris-Teter was built, that they would be able to have- Those aren't ridden as- Maximum's in the essay, that's in great. That's before my time, so I don't have to. Anyway, there's a benefit, right? Because we got the units filled, because for the property, we're really like, it's better be filled at 90% than they can. Well, at that time, it wasn't just our units. They were having trouble filling all the units. It was right after the downturn. And so they were trying to get units filled. They were offering, and a big problem was that they were offering rent specials. So a person that's like at 100% could get a rent special and spread it out over the year and get a rent less than what the 100% was. That was what was going on. And so they made that offer. And so I mean it's not anything like officially we're still doing it but it's not in the company. But currently they'd have to want to make a change that they'd have to go back and revise. Like I said it's not like a problem Washington wanted to wanted to rent for units instead of eight, but they wanted to double discount them. They would have to go back and get a new SC. Or a new revision SC, is that correct? It would have to be a change to the covenant. So we've never done that before. It's a council decision, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's going to be a city attorney decision decision whether we can do it or how it would work and that's wise with her right now. And then we they're looking at it and you've had kind of three different kind of interpretations. It's kind of a complicated issue so I'll get back to you. Maybe there needs to be a little post-development negotiations, I can want to keep it within the confines of the original structure, but allow you to do things like fixed and vacant one bedroom. Yeah, if we have the authority to do it, but the covenant is written that they it, they can't bring it market rate until we have our first round of folks in there. But eventually that can run out. Yeah, and then you're going to lose if you have a 700 person wait list and you haven't filled it, they're going to fight and you're going to lose eventually. Well, we're trying to not get through. Right. I agree. Okay. All right. So you want to go to the next one. So this is just to show you what our sketch, our timeline for adoption. So right now in the white. Thank you. So we are at five seven. We got planning tomorrow. And then got to go to Council work session this month. So the bottom line is we're not looking at adoption until August 11th. So hopefully that will happen soon and then as soon as that happens we're going to put our housing dashboard up and get started. But we've already started doing a lot of these things. So that's one good thing. Unless you mention that in my experience. So I just wanted to get your feedback, and you give me a lot of feedback actually, but you can get it to me now. You can get it to me in writing. I know you have a full agenda that is up to you. But right now we're just kind of in the feedback stage. So after you've had a chance to really review it, if you could send us some of your feedback in all of these topic areas, those are the six topics that I talked about. We had a community meeting a couple of weeks ago at the library and it was really great. Everybody there, the renters, users of our programs, and they have some really good comments that we're gonna incorporate. So I'd like to hear from you all, and y'all are coming from an economic background. And so I'm curious, your thoughts. So if you guys could let us know, it's up to you how you wanna do it. Do you guys like to send Dana direct email with thoughts of me? It will be a branding. A branding? That might be the most basic. Massive business. It's a bit of a status collector. He's back, but he's virtual for now. So he benched me like a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I'm fine with folks sharing your individual opinions. I don't think that we have to collect opinions here and filter them. Maybe you guys send them on to the only and then... This doesn't require an EDA action. No, I'm not Alex. So maybe you do it in the future. I'm going to be coming back to you to ask for an action. I'm going to be the timeline that's there, but after council refers it out, then I'll come back to you. Right now I'm just looking for food that I'm going to do. I just have one question. Yeah. So I was looking at the increase of 4-1 housing stock from 3 to 6 and you were saying it was around 220. So what we had currently, so we're talking about more than doubling that. It's get 400. We have 7,000 housing units right now. There's a denominator that's only getting it bigger and so soon we need the denominator There's a lot of stuff on this. 440. Sure. I've had another 400. 400 is out of 7,000 would be 6%. Yeah. But the denominator is going to continue to grow as we can. So we're going to add another 200 plus, right? Okay. Which is. Do we, like, logistically, like, how are you going to make that happen outside of, like, building more? That's a lot. I mean, that's two-hundred. That's an infinite number. Do we, like, religiously, like, how are you gonna make that happen outside of, like, building more? That's a lot of, I mean, that's an entire multi-family building. If you want to think about in terms of number of units. Well, I mean, we've done, I mean, in the past two years, we've had 99 new units, which is amazing. Yeah, we've had a lot of new development. That's what I was trying to think about. We don't have a lot of them. And you get pushed as a conversation that you can't just keep your inclusionary dynamic, right? Because you've been in 12% never in new building, and we normally build every three years. That's true. You're not going to 12% your way to 400 units, right? Yeah. And the reason I'm asking is just wondering why we picked going from three to six minutes nice to be able to double it. But I was just, if we were having that conversation 10 years ago and say, okay, that's, you know, maybe you could hit it. I was wondering why we picked going from three to six. It's nice to be able to double it, but I was just, if we were having that conversation 10 years ago and say, okay, maybe you could hit that number of units, that's a lot, unless you got a whole bunch of projects in the pipeline. Just, yeah. Well, to go. Yeah, no. Aspirational, again, like I said, it was more just like a little bit. It was just a fight point. I'm the lady on how many conditions as well. I think they said, gosh, 3% of our total housing stock is affordable. That's what we feel like. Actually, very affordable is the entire community. just like I was just like twice before. It's not in the ways on how we finish this well. I think they said, gosh, if 3% of our total housing stock is affordable, that's what we feel like. We're actually very affordable as the entire community. So they said, oh, pretty much, it's just gold. Could we double it? And so I think it's out there as an ambitious goal. So that forces the conversations, they mean we just can't inclusion our zone way to addressing housing, right? Yeah. So in turn, we have to stop this very good fire. Does anybody talk about, what's the kind of federal grill issue? Does anybody talk about, what's the kind of the federal drill issues? Anybody talk about the fiscal impact of adding another 200 large format, a four-footed units? Well, I remember I said we need singles and when we use larger ones. That's the demand. That's what we do. But the preferences is larger. Right, two better and more. And share the next. Yeah, we want both. We want singles and- Is that- I don't know where you're talking about. Yeah, I think it's going to be. If you add like ton of two better and three better and units, that is going to impact a whole bunch of other infrastructure issues that have not actually been calculated how that's going to impact the community. That was a reason I had a question. It's a problem that it's a sleeping guy that no one's even 100, even 100 affordable units that are two-butter-and-plus, like the fiscal side of the country. I mean, under this, the housing policy conversation from an economic development standpoint, that would be the main question that I would add, and so the fiscal impact of adding the 200? And again, it's a spectrum of even 100, larger format to better and plus the fiscal impact that would be pretty substantial. Yeah, I like you mentioned the day monitoring dashboard. See how you're doing. I love the idea of that transparent thing. We were really important. I think you can build that with projections in it. So you can say, if we achieve x, y, z, this is what the impact would be, including the various other costs associated with it. I think we can even get you also under governance and communication outreach to lowering some people to participate and be involved in this process. I think communication to the broader community is going to be really important. People in this room, most people we talk with most of the time, I think are very supportive of this whole initiative, but I think there's enough ground swell of people that are wondering what type would tiny falls church work on this? Why can't we just get money to to the press surrounding jurisdictions to help with that broader issue on a regional basis. It might be able to apply those funds in the scale. What is the actual cost through manufacturing at that time? The work that we're trying to do just to set up these policies, much less the fiscal impact of under the US government things are. I think there are a lot of important questions there that if somebody and it starts speaking into that and starts to control the public communication on it. We don't have a lot of more questions there that if somebody may start speaking into that and start to control the public communication on it, we don't have a good story for why we're doing what we're doing. I think we can fall behind and even see the council seats to be let, you know, change on the policies. That's a complete agree. And the sheer fact that you're adding this to the comprehensive plan, I mean, if we're living policy. We started that last one I think when the first year that I was on council and it was an aspirational And the sheer fact that you're adding this to the comprehensive plan, I mean, the affordable living policy, we started that last one, I think, when the first year that I was on council, and it was an aspirational policy, when you added to a comprehensive plan, that is just huge spotlight in terms of how land use and development is interpreted. So at a broad point, whether you like or not, it's going to be under a microscope. and that's the first question people are going to ask because we just had four years and knocked down dry out fights over accessory dwelling in its T zones, which will produce a fraction of what you're talking about producing here. Well, I mean, it's a goal. It's not mainly a stretch goal of what we're hoping, what I think the how is what is important right? So this is the goal, how are we going to get there? Different ways to get there, then we have different cost and impacts in plan. And the when is also important. How long do we have? Is it a 2050 goal? What's the time right? That is a good question. Yeah, what is the time for our eyes? 2040. Yeah, it's socially and productive. I think you have some messaging, but underlines it's going to be when the Robert Husser Road, House Committees Council to spending the money that is going to be required to do these initiatives? The 6% has been in front of us. Why do you say, because housing commission when they shared their annual tort did share that for feedback and I think we all nodded their heads. Obviously, if you haven't talked about the how. But when we were talking about the how. Yeah, I think we're processing this. And you add that many hits at reduced tax rates combined with that many children at those additional costs. I don't want to say the children. And you put all those words together. I mean, it's just a commitment to what we're doing. We're not building two-bedroom units. So we can have one person. I would like to say that just because you have a two-bedroom unit doesn't mean that children are in the history. Welcome all sorts of households. You'd be able to have lots of single people that come in our place and you have a two-bedroom unit doesn't mean the children what's the history? but welcome all sorts of households. you'd be able to have lots of single people that come in our place and they want a two-bedroom but they pay $800 or so that's a wrong one. I have a question. so it's really kind of kind of no will I think it's what Ross has been saying. it's in an office. is there will? what's that? in or down or better than in office. How people want that. Exactly. When you jump up the three bedrooms, then you start to talk about a different mix. And I don't really know that we're talking about three bedrooms. We don't have any three bedrooms in the program. There's very few in the city. I think Pearson has some. We're talking about the rebuilding has junior one bedrooms that have a din. And What was the price point of it? Those are at the, I think 80% and below that 80%. So what's that price point compared to what they're trying to get abroad on? So at the rebuilding, so the 80%? My hair is moving. Now it would be like I think of the low actual rent. Can I make a suggestion? Yes, I would. Given that you guys are responsible for your economic development and have interest for salt business, I think, for Davis request about getting feedback, it'd be helpful along those three topics that she's outlined out there. What are you hearing from businesses who want to locate here? What are their challenges with getting workers? What would help? I don't know if development and activity in the fall search for long lines, housing. Regionally, we always get support of meeting the region because of how the crisis are hearing that in fall search. So give that some thought. I think that would be helpful. That would be helpful for you, but for us, on council, as we decide on incorporating this policy of the complaint. So I would just suggest that you all. School court. We thought that. Yeah, it's not just that. That's what I would use. And then just so you know, so an eight percent, one bedroom rent would be $2,166. That's an important one. What is it? $1,166 is a one bedroom for 80% unit. The person would make $86,000 so that they're not spending more than 30% of their income. They're rent would be 2,166 and then the one of the what's the price of ones that the 60% one is found for red broad washing their 1866 All right, let's can I make a part being so first is based on the feedback on those topics What are your businesses and the whole for lackache development in the second? I think I'm starting to get things escalated to me with our on-house population and how it impacts script malls and parks and things. And so that would also be another kind of thing to think about, especially as we're looking for road and what can be done with the shelter. There's also a need study for the end house coming up, right? Yes. So that would be the second, the 2B, as my suggestion is, what are you here? Anywhere you're seeing, how does impact small businesses? I'm here from a couple of businesses that we have to run a house, people kind of loitering in the businesses and they don't want to call the place and criminalize that behavior, at the same time it does impact their business. So if the tricky issue that no one seems to have a great solution for, so I would love the EDA perspective on that. Let's do this. Thank you for that. time it does impact their business. So if the tricky issue that no one seems to have a great solution for, so I would love the EDAs perspective on that. Let's do this. Thank you for that. Dan, thank you very much for your presentation. If anybody has feedback, let's get feedback through the lens of economic development. Perfect. Directly to Brendan. Or Naomi. Or Naomi. She can forward well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So speaking of housing, you all received a brief summary here of the Access Redewal Unit update that was recently approved on council after many years. Just one year. Just one. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year. Just one year.. All it is obviously no action required. This is simply an FYI. No pretty ton of IT thing in cut. Yeah. A little bit of feedback. As of a couple of days ago, our zoning administrator still didn't have a specific way to the but the very reason. So, nobody has, there hasn't been a delusion of people rushing to do so. I know like 30 days after we've had that change before. So make sure that there's somebody who hasn't appealed the decision and challenged it, right? So we'll walk pretty back. Okay. Thank you. I think it's pretty clear. This is a nice summer every put this together. Yeah, it's a great summer. Yeah, it was really helpful. Easy to follow. All right, so now we're moving on to, I've got a E.A. presentation. Wait, is this? Well, that's an information. When I get the presentation. You did. No, I gave a presentation to Council on our E.A. fund conversation we talked about about in terms of the money we're getting back to Virginia Village. It seemed to be well received unless I didn't read the room correctly. Hopefully it makes it through the budget with most of it in tax. The third one, why I think the plan is this room budget amendment is where we will register check. We need to need paper the agreement though about the annual payments. Yeah. Yeah. So he said he follow up with you on. That's fine. The idea was that we were going to get effectively $400,000 back and then there was another $600,000 that would be treated as a loan with some interest payment on a monthly basis based on a reasonable interest rate that would be acceptable considering the fact that this is a municipality. I'm talking about like love shark interest rates here. Something. Come down to Damian. Okay, you have come down to the early CP. Something CVI plus, I think we talked about like a lot more cost. Anyway. So that presentation was given hopefully goes through in that budget amendment and we'll have some funds to work with to accomplish our 2025 work plan and begun. Yeah so the work session with council that will be discussed will be on the 19th. Okay two weeks. Okay. So we need to show a t-shirt and say like give us our money. Yeah, I hear we hear there will be help. So I'm, okay. Okay, and then I have, speaking of that, we're presenting, this is one of the other presenting to get a council update. Let's change the 20s, so we give our presentation a council on of a year under review on the June 23rd. We've been able to join, sorry, skip to head there. Next, we have the CDA update. Alana is a link to it. I don't know if you want to present. You look good. Yeah, because Alana, I think most of you were caught, Alana was appointed as our CDA rep. Yeah. Alana got an update. as well on the 17th of April. Very quickly, yeah. And there was also a package that was included in the mail-out. of our CDA route. Yeah. Ellen, you got an update. You guys have been on the 17th of April. Very quickly. Yeah. And there was also a package that was included in the mail out of the chat. The round these payments that we'll be getting over the next couple of years. The meeting was, I don't know if we have a share or not. I think I share with the committee. I think I'll share with the committee. podium. The developer went over all the progress in the project today, looking at all the buildings that are up and building the Balthas Star, which is the, you know, the convoy building. Senior centers. Senior centers, Balthas Star, and then they also walk through all of the retail shops that are currently open and gave us updates on the rental numbers, which they're behind, but they're hoping that they're going to have, I think, the number is about 146 rented by June. And that they also had occupancy numbers on the condo building up this up and moving ahead. And then they also shared with us what the big change, I guess, that was made in the distribution for the payment of the bonds. When the deal was first done, it was just structured as three payments, basically. One which was for all the condo units, including the retail units, one which was for just retail units and one that was for units that did not pay. Because the condo building is completed now, they have to split that out for all of the units so that each unit has its allocated share of payment, which still adds up to the total number that's needed to to cover the cost of the bond payments. The two bond payments are coming in. In. payment which still adds up to the total number that's needed to cover the cost of the bond payments. The two bond payments are coming in in in 26. The 26 payments are actually going to be 233,000 dollars less than what they were last year because we had the draw downs that were done last year. We're drawn down in the excess of what the actual costs for bond payments and for the expenses were going to be for a year. So it turns out there's a little bit of a benefit in that sense, but the schedule that's listed for all the payments, I mean, assuming that everything goes right and actually Dave Snyder asked a question by what it's what happens if they aren't able to collect all the payments from the various condo owners. They've got to reserve fun and they think that they're going to be able to cover that in addition to what they also have in their chemistry to cost to be able to cover that. So they have a client. They have a client. Yeah, so there should not be any financial liability. Yeah, there should not be any financial liability And it's also I just noticed I think there's gonna be we're gonna try and set up a Time for us to go up and actually tour the project Yeah, I think I stuck one of the email that had some dates on that I don't know the dates or so. So yeah A lot of construction going on at the intersection there and new lights going out, they talked about that, the improvements that were being made along Route 7 and also along HACOC and they're hoping by the end of June that all those would be completed as well, although I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens with the light coming out of there and the light right there and HACO because is pretty close. So we'll see what happens. But it's a late to many power right now. It's not actually our contractors who are our developers. Because you can see the mass turns are there and some drag straight there. Black plastic trash bands over there. And so, and they ask you that's currently a big problem for that was part of this that smart grid grant that was apply for and received that infrastructure grant that we had was the same so that smart city grant this is that $1.00 and the A grant with an intersection of green yeah that's upward 10 million smart cities grant one does that start? That's already started. That's the those are the panels that go along each intersection. We've deployed a third of the street, third of the dark cities. Not related to those signals on an ACOC and brought by. No, but it's on ACOC, right? The smart city? No, it's on Broad. No, it's on Broad. I'll put that word something going on on A-Cock, too. There is this new one art by the giant. It didn't like it. No, I was sorry. We, the grant money that was going into the transportation infrastructure, there's part of smart city. I thought that that included A-Cock. is not just broad. I can't search for any seven intersections in the city that are getting upgraded. I can't tell you. I don't know all of them. Oh, come on. I'm acceptable. 476 has been installed. And but I can't tell you how much you're doing. Because it's right at the border of the city, it's probably a Fairfax County intersection on Mars. Okay. All right. So under construction things are going well. Yeah. The revenue is coming in. Thank you. I was doing my foot. Following on this agenda I had a report of the financial terms which actually second was nice, set ways nicely with what Allen had reported. Why did first agenda report of the financial terms which actually segue is nice, segue is nicely with what Allen reported. Why did presented this to us? I think back at October of 24, I'd asked for an update into this information to be included. So Allen has provided some of the update for these of the basic terms. Does everybody have a chance to look over this? OK. Anybody have any questions about it? Nope. The context is that given that obviously people change on councils and boards, I think there's only three of us left who are around for these original negotiations. And given that 99-year-round, these are a lot of lasting fiscal benefits in the state, based on deal. And so we want to put in one pager of everything in the deal so that everyone would remember what we did in the long term benefit. So I raised the issue of bond raised to me. What's that? The issue you would have retouched over. Oh, well, we'll talk about that one. Okay. I'm just going to plug it into the scavengers here. But no, there are a lot of residual benefits here in this. It's empty. One fighter to touch. A lot of residual benefits here in terms of the ground lease, which one of the reasons we get the ground lease, one is to signal to the city that we still control the land. To, even though you get less upfront, that residual payment over 99 years is basically created in ATM machine. And we put some other things in here, like the 25 basis points of the 0.25% on every condo that's sold in the future. So these are just residual checks to continue to come to the city. So in addition to the tax revenue that we generate, we can just sell the land, put some mechanisms in place and make sure that the city still collecting checks for 100 years for the rest of us for problems. So it sounds like support is working out. It's just working. So Alan, thanks for that report. checks for 100 years for the rest of us for part of this. Sounds like support. Working out is a good plan. So, I don't think so that report. Alright, so we got that. Check out number eight. Number nine. I asked Becky and Naomi to put the commercial property tax property tax abatement. Yeah. What do you think is being a property tax abatement? I don't shoot you. You're right. We're going to talk about this commercial property tax abatement. Yeah. What do you think is being a property tax abatement? I don't know. Shoot. Yeah, you're right. We're going to talk about the commercial property tax abatement program. So if you get anybody of your own commercial property that may benefit from this or be impacted by it, you might need to refuse yourself. I think you're sure you're going to be. Well, I shall know, but I will. Okay. Do you want to read the disclosure statement? There's one on the screen. Do I want to? I'm sure you're going to be. Well, I'm sure I know, but I will. Do you want to read the Disco-Ageist statement? There's one on the screen. Do I want to? I would. The HDA is discussing tonight the City Commercial Taxate and Perg. It's been picked up. It's a real military replaceability release. 20 years old, he uses office space. And the air parent of a building, building, I'll be able to put it in a part of my spike that I am able to participate in discussion, really, I'll check it again in a public interest. All right. Now the last one participating, this should be able to put it in a spot that I am able to participate in this discussion, really, I'll check it at the end of the public interest. All right, now that I have some participating, this should be a short conversation. I am. I think I'm allowed to. Man, participating. He's going to put the building I have is probably not eligible anyway, so. No, so this program was established a while ago to incentivize the conversion or preservation of commercial space in the city. I asked for us to have a conversation about this when I was passing by the Stratford Motor Lodge. The light bulb went off that I was wondering if they'd taken advantage of this program, or if it was a way to take advantage of this program, because technically the piece that they did preserve was the office for the hotel. And I thought, you know, that one it was a unique kind of adaptive reuse of that piece, but it probably didn't fit squarely inside of this program because so nice. Well, size, but also, you know, at the time you're making decisions without knowing all of the hint that possibilities and that's one on that I can guarantee you nobody's going to come in and build a beer garden and keep that tiny little office piece and retain that facade. So I for one think that, again, reason to ask for us to look at this draft conversation because it needs to be updated because I don't think that it's really applicable anymore. I don't think it's going to be utilized and really hasn't been utilized. And because we have talked about this huge pipeline of largescale development that has taken place over many years is probably less of that in the pipeline. And I believe, unless I've read the room incorrectly, there is always a desire to preserve the commercial buildings that we have, and to put some programs in place that will incentivize, maintain ownership and revitalization, as opposed to owners of those buildings simply looking to sell for a full redevelopment, meaning raising the building and building something else. A tax evaporation program like this, I also full disclosure, work a lot with property tax evapments throughout the country. They can be incredibly powerful to achieve that, but they often have to be re-loaked restructured, revised, so you can have the intended effect. So just wanted to open this up for conversation, but I for one think that if we want to try to incentivize preservation, especially if some of the low rise, lower density that we have along the broad street, which I personally would like to maintain in between these larger nodes, that we should look at programs that would incentivize people to reinvest in those buildings. As opposed to saying, I don't really have a low payment when we just keep cheap rent, not put money into it, but to get people an opportunity and again doing incentivize them to put money back into it to preserve that so they don't end up in redeveloped or you know continue to. So what is your proposal? this? Does anybody understand what this does? Yeah. So, let me answer. I have my questions. Okay. I don't have a proposal at this time, because I want to talk about what it is that we want to achieve, because it can apply to the retail, it can apply to commercial, it can be based on square footages, it can be based on effective age, it can be based on a certain value of improvement put into a building. What it is now, right? all sorts of things that gave you over to this. Yeah. Has it been used? It's been used a more of one time it's been used? Has it been used in any of the, was it used in like the Godfrees building? Probably not. No side of it. No side of it. No side of it. The ARCO-Sex tried to. I don't know if it's, I don't know if a case horse spend these maybe only the only price has been successful 5 10 when they put the medical invader in and so they were able to redo that building put in the medical invader just those off they double the assessment I believe they got but I don't know any others that have successfully used it. If you're talking about smaller buildings and that 10,000 square foot cap that's kind of killed things? Yeah, exactly. I guess those buildings must have been just under it, but I'm pretty sure they got it. So one of the ways that I've seen is done at other jurisdictions where you get into this conversation about there's always the given take of like back getting away money, you know, tax money. One of the ways that I've seen other jurisdictions do it is where you are effectively foregoing future taxes over a kind of a 10 year period or enterprise zone tax credits and power on its own use for all different reasons. You're effectively getting people to bathe on the increase in the assessed value that's created from the investment that they're making. So if you want to build in this work... The current tax basis, usually. Right, so you're not giving away taxes. You're already collecting, you're just foregoing taxes. You would earn in the future based on the... So totally never gonna do it. So for example, a spylo-ne building is worth a million dollars. And the program says, okay, for the next 10 years, you put money into it. Whatever money you put into it, when it's reassessed after it recedes a certificate of occupancy, we will evade the increase on the assessment associated with that investment. If it's every time you put money into it, what? Only if you two have. No, you can put a threshold on how much you invest. That's a current one is two have. Here, yes. I'm talking about in general others. So if I'm a million dollar building and I say you know what? My tent's leading, I want to put a million bucks into it. Because... one is two apps. Here, yes. I'm talking about in general others. So if I'm a million dollar building and I say you know what? My tent's leading I want to put a million bucks into it because I want to improve it. Put a million dollars into it. I get a certificate of occupancy. The next assessment comes out and the assessor comes and says now it's worth two million dollars. Round numbers. That owner of that property would have a certain portion of that one1 million that the assessment increased to evaded. It could be 100%, it could be 80%, it could be 70%, and then typically it walks down so 100% of that million dollar increase is evaded the first year than it's 90, 80, 70 all the way down. Or it could be any version of that. So that's the way I've seen it done in other places. And it's great. And I've personally invested in projects like that and other cities where we've done that. Because you find a building that nobody's put money into. But you know that you can put money into it, put a new tenant in there, get a little bit higher rent, and then get a break on taxes. So it makes it financially feasible. I don't know if that's something that EDA wants to entertain a conversation about. Obviously we don't have the authority to make that change, but it's something that could be powerful for helping retain some of these smaller buildings that aren't 10,000 square feet. Where we... conversation about obviously we don't have the authority to make that change but it's something that could be powerful for helping retain some of these smaller buildings that aren't 10,000 square feet where we don't necessarily want to solely focus on just office space it could be any use. And you had to say any use of the residential but yeah. How many buildings that is and what kind of square. But it's roughly, I think, I think, I. Before you talk about how to change it, I guess I'd like to understand why hasn't been used. Like, do people not know about it? Do they not qualify? Is it criteria one or two that's your restrictive? Like before you like tinker with it more? Like I kind of want to know why hasn't been used? Because it was updated when I was in news like eight years ago. It has been using a year which one of those reasons. Maybe it's all they bought and then you just need a wholesale change. They may not be using it because that 10,000 square foot threshold. Yeah, 10,000 hundred dollars. That's not actual. Most of the small office buildings. Like are we gonna go based on what doesn't work? I'm gonna say one we don't have a lot of office. To the bigger the offices that we do have are fairly sizeable offices and when you think about the fact that you would have to put enough money into it to get to it to acts and assess value, nobody's putting that kind of money into the office buildings that we know as smart refrigerators. We have more retail, I think, that would be applicable for that. And then the other issue is that a lot of these kind of smaller offices or what this is trying to accomplish to preserve office, most people have run the numbers on this and say, I'm not thinking of just going to seek a special exception and get it torn down and sell it to a developer to fill in. You're suggesting it's not just office, you can reach out to. I think it absolutely should be any commercial use other than residential. That would be the baseline start and then we can analyze and see why. Does the EDO have any information on the past eight years why it hasn't been used? No, I literally walking down the street and called Becky and said did Stratford apply for this and she said no, they didn't qualify, they asked about it. And I said can we put on the agenda to talk about so we need to solve the problem today yeah but I think that this is like a low-hanging fruit where we could analyze and come up with what but in the qualific is reserved 10 dollars of curfew yeah not more it's not it's not a law of success it's not off inside we were shifted to office right it's not at office building it's I guess I I want more of this. It's a hotel lobby. It's two people that I run it, but I can't qualify the reason why. We don't know those answers. I mean, this was, we were all on the last week. We can look into it. The voice-all inject here is like priority wise kind of what we want staff to spend time on. If you all think this has some potential to make an impact and you want us to kind of put it on the work plan for us to kind of investigate, dig up some data, and put together some information. I think that's something we could do. I would think a great example, for instance, so look at the Brown's part of your block. Yeah, it's not a hell of a lot of office in there. One little, one little face up above. Right, couple of places in there. The rest of it's all retail. That's prime property for somebody to come in. So I want to buy this up and redevelop the whole damn thing. Yeah. But if we wanted to keep something, we've heard from a lot of people who were crying when Brown's clothes, we wanted to keep something that looks like that. Then we should have a program that says we can kick some cash into this or we can give you tax benefits or whatever to keep that type of structure rather than ending up with what we know we've been getting, which is retail and residential. Right. And how long is the building of space that's going to be? Because someone's going to have to invest in those. And in 10,000 growth benefits, we've these two fairly to lot of data office buildings in the city that are huge. But they're both in really good. It incentivizes reinvestment into smaller profits in the city. So they don't so the one on the end was not, let me just ride the sand into the ground until I'm ready to sell it to somebody for an assembly to redevelop it. Yeah. So that's the idea. Here's what I was, I mean, if there is, I'm not going to ask staff to go dig into decades of information, but if somebody has just a list of who's applied or how many, if there have been any, that have applied to the space program would be good to know. And if anybody has anything other than anecdotal evidence about why folks have applied? That'd be a great way for us to start the conversation. How many buildings are in the city currently? We can walk away with the car. Can we buy it? Oh, I said for this. Good the way it is. Where is that? Not many. Many. Look up those numbers. Why do people make a phone call? A lot of them do. We have this. Why do you have many? Maybe. Look up those numbers. Why do people make a full profit? They're called those actors? I want them to make a full profit. I'm telling you right now, number two is the main reason nobody's doing that. I mean, think about it. If you are a $5 million office building, which is a moderately sized office building that's class C plus or B, means you have to go dump another 5 million into it. Nobody's seen it yet. Not when you can just re-develop it. So then if you change it to whatever me as a broader you can, then how many dollars are we talking about? They can ask those hundreds of what would my big consumers or just let them. That was going to bring them to your point of view. For instance, where we are, bigots are where we ran to them. Then I'm going to do that. I think there's not way that we double the value. They couldn't get to it. But if you told them, hey, you can believe it. where we ran to them. Then I'm going to do that. There's no way that we'd double the back. They couldn't get to it. But if you told them, hey, you can, you know, we'll be the tax break if you swap out all the windows and modernize the exterior of it, they're trying to make it natively. But could you double the assess value on them one there with the abortion clinic on the front row? No, no, no, 20 not. If you read that and you made it look like somehow the Tyson's could it would have double it would let's do this Because there's like a thousand Everyways you can see this it can be based on the tenant build-out for new leases It could be based on how it would encourage the firm maintenance like there's a whole list of things It got applied to the amount that they would have to invest and it gets like a little bit tricky But I think first of all I'd like to know has somebody applied it to have who's gotten it who's applied? who's been interested that it hasn't applied. And then do we want to try again analysis of how many buildings would qualify for the card one? Yeah, and I like the intent, right, like keeping grounds hardware or whatever, but if where Whole Foods was, if that little office building had been like minorly improved a little And let's see what that looks like and then we'll kind of talk about what's next. You're the great and I'm going to have applications for that. I think we're going to have to talk about the things that we're going to do. And I think we're going to have to talk about the things that we're going to do. Let's see's see what that looks like and then kind of talk about what's next. You're be great in how many applications work for that. Yeah, I think this is what we should do. Do you want to read you guys into your work plan that you developed? I want to go, I guess, where does this fall relative to the other things? She's just walking around. She's showing you what that story knows. Let me tell you what it is. I'm just holding you guys a towel to your plan and the resources. That's true. I think it's worth at least having an additional conversation. We can swap this out you're going to swap this out to the B-fold tax. One tax thing at a time. Oh, I know. I know. We're shells on here. So, let me just watch. She's not watching. Sorry, we're going to. We have a redder end. Okay. All right. That is. She also has a good conversation. All right. That's a good conversation. Alright, so we are all together. There's nothing we can do. We'll just put that on the agenda for fucking waiting in your mind. In the outlawing of your actions. That's a good conversation. All right, so we are all together. There's nothing to do. We'll just put that on the agenda for probably a new mind. And he ought to be like, you don't need to go deep on that, man. Just, how's the good applications? And application and the number of commercials is under 10,000. And that's probably all we need, right? And some of this is probably going to be doable, because like folks can say, hey, we're thinking about this and then we realize that. Oh, they have a big number of people. That would be good matter. Unless we have something to do over. It's always probably going to make an application until they've kind of talked it. We're screwed. That's a trick, right? So we'll see what we can find out. We'll talk to Becky and... Okay. And we've had one person interested currently, please be told, no, it'll be done come close, you know, you'll play under 10,000. Yeah, good. Okay. Okay. Number 10, we talked about number 11, federal government workforce reduction upstate update. And we have our idea. Yep. This is just a few bit of an update regarding what we've been doing, what kind of federal changes to transfer to the local community. The city, along with other local jurisdictions around this, like Sandra, I mentioned, in the specifics, Cali all worked with the Congressman Buyers Office to put a job fair on last weekend. We had 2410 needs and the city had a table where we had information about jobs available at the city and also at the schools. And a huge shout out to Sharon and Megan to handle the table. That was non-stop busy. They didn't get the stop talking about the whole time they were there. At the end of that, I had to, the people were still going to queue up to talk to employers at the tables. They anticipated 200, when they'd like to get their staff told news that they were expecting a couple hundred and 200 worth of door already happened now before door was opened. Clearly, people in the region are burning, I think it's dead well. It was an actual exercise. Yeah, it was huge. The Nova EAA, who remembers of have commissioned a report on the impacts of the federal changes, the dresses can be estimated at the moment. That report is due in May and then as part of that, they don't only provide individual jurisdiction and analyses where possible to be due in mid-June, which will share you all once, it's available. There's also put together or putting together an initiative as an eight-week program to help as a free program and there's still work out the final details. At the moment, it was so snoby called Nova Pivot or Nova Pivot Point. It's an eight-week program, I believe, that's a mixture of online and in person, I think, and quite the side of it, and to help our federal workers, contractors and the small business people adapt, I suppose, the situation that they've been currently. Do you know what they're talking about? The Scarecrow's going to be huge. Veteran retiree, they have a huge out placement program. Are they using? Oh sure. I haven't looked through the program at the minute. It looks very comprehensive. I'm not sure about that. I better use my mind to see. They only exist just for businesses or is this also for individuals? It's for individuals. People who have been contractors and people who have been small businesses. It's like a small team. Yeah. And then the city itself, if you haven't been on the city's web page, there's a page which people can access off the home page with a whole heap of resources. We're trying to keep that as much as possible to jump fairs and all that sort of information for people who need it Dallas office I think human services are providing information to people who come to them about This is a couple of some of the information provided in and then we also have that in our office as well And then as quick contacts if you don't know 16% of our workforce in the city are federal workers. That does not include contractors, that does not include federal adjacent workers. 16%, 16%. So it's slightly higher than the region, comfortable to what Arlington is, and the Algonnier is a lot higher than that. So it's large part of our workforce is either impacted or bored. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why. 16%. That's 16% of this. We're listening. And then Sarah. And all of the local support that the city and other local jurisdictions is timely given that the Olympic May is national small business week and I can have my development week. So I'll support in work, interesting stuff. Yeah, we're updating all the, but easiest as a particular job deck, all the information we have on our website for the businesses to make sure that anyone can provide we off through our website. So what are we doing for small business? I didn't know that anything about this week is now. Is this what we're doing like the marketing, marketing, marketing, like what are we mounting? So you'll see in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. I didn't know that in the first month. that social media ads are discussions under web. But it's sweet. Yeah, so we're just preparing events at this point. We were kind of tied up with these other events getting material came up for that in the day, the website with the local community support, but just call on your attention to that for maybe in the future. Next year, we can really. We'll kind of tie up with these other events, getting material came up for that in the game, the website with the local community support, which is calling your attention to that for maybe in the future. Next year, we can really make a big push, super about that. Anyone I have to really special when we go and talk about false-riching reviews that number of small businesses we have, and how unique that we don't have a bunch of other things. Is there really great thing to play from our brand? I like the small business association. Yeah. And like the small business Saturday, you know, I don't know. I don't know that there's a chamber. There's a small business. How much is it? I don't know that there's a chamber. So I just learned that as well. That's how it's like sharing knowledge. All right. Number 12. So you are really just going to work on the social media ads or discussions underway as well as research is underway for the CRM and scheduling time with CMD2 and others to get updates and preliminary discussion underway for restripe 246. And I think Trisha said that she's going to try to come to the next meeting. Yes. To do a recap on the finished challenge. Yeah. Okay, so a couple of the other things to Parklet signs. We've gotten a team together across different parts of the city that need to pull this stuff off. We're kind of on the Parklet signs for a regular trail and triangle park. Going to, I think we've started yet, convening a team. Again, from a different part of this to start laying out what we call strategy on our public parking signage rate. And then, Blue Becky's kind of doing the contractor of the notes to receive them as key state inventory. We've talked with public works about the Western Gateway Media and we've added it to their kind of plan to the end of the summer. They have been up there lately right now, so I'm going to give time for us to come fix it up. And Sarah is going to be pulling together a team kind of from O'Connor, and a couple of the other departments to start talking about the amateur. So, I think with the number of these things, the old kind of talked about the past. President kind of looking for our ED18 to kind of be doing all this on the run. We're trying to kind of pull in the different parts of the organization I hope. One of these things, the old kind of talked about the past, rather than kind of looking for an ED18 to kind of be doing all this on the road, we're trying to kind of pull in the different parts of the organization, I hope, get these things in place. And in the coming months, we'll have some more details for you on specific scientific. I was given the liaison role for this. So let me know how I could be involved in this. And maybe that's a good segue to something I did want to ask about because I've taken the previous sheet, the previous slide, kind of list it. Everybody's got a role. And maybe it could be helpful for me to understand, kind of, how do you want kind of us to kind of engage with all of you on these things. So, just kind of talk about this meeting. Do we need to be pulling you into meetings during the week? I would be like to see. Yes, so the idea was to one have some accountability by individual EDA members. One give folks a chance to send their teeth into some things, but also to be able to liaise with you all. Because the way that would traditionally work, if you all were working on something that would come back to present, right? It could be a mountain and there's another presentation having our individually dean members assigned to work plan, kind of tasks and ideas. You can work directly with them to help kind of expedite some of that and then they can be a, let'd say kind of co-author from a liaison perspective back to us at the EDA. So I would say work directly with the individuals and work with them. This is a part of the team and extension of the EDA. Hopefully I expedite some of that. Okay. I'd be glad to come to like a general meeting where you might discuss the topic and see where I can come back to the EDA. The idea is to speak to this help. speak things up and give you guys some sound reports. You don't have to wait a month or try to get some consensus from us. I think everybody here is signed up for what they want to sign up for. And I trust folks to be able to bring back questions or concerns and feedback and things like that with us as an EDA. But if you find out that it's having the opposite effect, where it's causing problems or slowing things down, it also be good to know that as well. Because we haven't traditionally done it this way, but I like to try. Okay, we can do that. Okay. A nice sign, so are we going to be able to fabricate those with the new machinery of it? So I think that's what they're talking about doing with the Cavalier Trail sign. Yeah, something a little, well, a little modest, right? And then I think that they were talking, the team was talking about the triangle park for where we were going. City, town, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. City, town. Brown's park which we would have found source. And I believe that Mr. Wreck-Henry-Hawks, Board I think, would be being called to the side of the control whether that's a thing. We go back to like the manufacturer, the original son, I'm not sure. That's not true. But they, they, they. We're working with public works, and we pick a place to put it that isn't kind of over-utilities, and you know, just kind of working through some of that kind of, uh, stuff, yeah. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. We find that. I'm sorry. I was made before Memorial Day very much, hopefully. What is it? It's about to happen. It's supposed Swiss and Mother's Day, right? No, it's a no-one, flowers go out. Other things. That's what you can. That's what you can do. For Ronald Fox, we give that one. All right. But I'll thumb. Hmm. That's how many that is. Yeah, it's 26. You're going to be on Saturday night, hour and 26. 86 minutes, right? Sorry. Well, these are good. Uh, I'll give you a round. So I can have a big dance, Mr. Brown's, Park and Oscar when I see what the thing is, but figure it's a very kindly donated. So you finished up? Brian, that's my office party, I sure am in. I was just going to get Figuert is a very kindly donated. So you finished up? I'm trying to find my office manager, man. Let's try again. I just want you to know what I'm saying. Who don't you? Figuert. Right, I hope it is. It was a surprise to me. He did not know about it. Oh, okay. It was a last minute. He was the last one. So it's a table that if you had gins? Oh, now we got it on our own. Oh, we got it. Oh, already got it on our own. So it's like a sandwich of big bread. So table that if your head is. Oh, now we got it on the road. Oh, already got it on the road. So, the life's end to big screen. Thanks for having me. Very fun to have. Yeah, it's an offering. That looks good. Yeah, I do. And then Sarah, I think it has an update for us. Yeah, here's a good segue. Thank you for all of our false church fitness and wellness businesses for participating in the false church fitness challenge. This is the preliminary report of the giving based on the feedback and the value collected so far. Just to recap, this was a revamp of the Mayor's Fitness Challenge in a collaboration with Part B. Rex, E.R.ster City Public Schools. We made this event moving to city residents, government employees and school employees. We had pop-up events and special offers from the businesses. We worked with the lovely Trisha Barba again to coordinate and market this event. And we had a fabulous turnout from businesses 23 of them participating and getting their offers and promoting their events on the website. And the next slide. Social media wise, we had a whole month to promote this so we had a lot of great interest and a lot of social media posts the top content that we had the top five you can see there was the static of the Save the Date just the static picture and then the bar three post and then another one about a sound bath event and then councilmember Justin underhills real and then the initial introduction real from your Lydia Hardy. The total of all the promotions we did on social media equaled a lot. So it was 32 reals, just 32 static tomatoes and 103 stories total which reached 13,000 accounts which is amazing overall, let's be looked at all the numbers. We can see that the EDO went from 2313 followers, 2633, which was an incredible growth of 320 followers for 13.8% and to give you context in relation to the other jurisdictions that put us slightly ahead of how many followers they currently have. So, do you think that? I think that's how many people say, I know I think about this. I know where to look at what's false church to do. And like why doesn't it tie into the main, you know, bookside, and how do we change that to make it even better? Like that was awesome. I'm gonna give them next week to talk. You'll post more of them. Yeah, I have them. Yeah. Do that in here. A lot of our more deep dive into the data, and my information was we have that meeting and one through the forum for Patricia, but so far, so good. There was a lot of people that I heard as well, like, oh, oh I missed it but I heard about it. I'm looking forward to next year which is more so than restaurant week people are like what was it? What happened so this was a really I think come. Well received and people are interested. I'm not going to know people yet help you. Just glad we're winning You don't need to follow or something here. I'll be right back. Talk to you. I don't mean. I was in a couple of months. They probably got like 12 viewers in probably like 11 of them in my family. My mom, you know, sometimes. That's okay. That's okay. Thanks for the accounts. At least, the one you can do more at home than you. I guess I'm glad we were getting more disciplined with data. I guess the question I'm about for the EDA is, given you all committed dollars to the ultimate you care about supporting businesses. And one of the things that I will have to see discuss is like, what is the lift that businesses saw is the ROI over there, right? Because ultimately, what we care about followers and having more people engage with us online, the city cares about that. You all should care about what's the impact to businesses and what is a future outcome. Development does this help to foster a greater for more fitness and wellness businesses. Future things like that, I think matter to you all. Yeah, of course it's a lot more participating. Did you say you didn't increase? Not really. But I spoke with a number of women who were, whose businesses were also involved. And they really liked that there was that landing page so that if someone was interested in a fitness business, there's one place to go rather than Google or any kind of thing. So that they thought was a big benefit to them. There's a soft benefit with also playing up our brains and being like a mere and healthy community. Yeah, so there's a lot of fireable that maybe some value. Like those businesses. Again, I think it would have been nice if I think it was just open to residents. It would be nice if it was open to employees of the city, business owners in this city. Like it wasn't open to them. So I feel like some of us who don't live in the city If I were to I mean I tried to pump it up But if I could also be figured out my fingerboard So look at I did you know I had people disappointed that they weren't able to And I get it there have no connection except coming to the city for one of these businesses. But if they work or live or what are we restricted? I don't know. I think it ultimately worked out to the prize giveaway and how would we sort of mitigate that when it was kind of like how many would we have? And we already ran out of them after the facts. So maybe that's a good caveat that we can discussion about how to get around it. So is it a jurisdictional competition? So that's what you used to be, such as jurisdiction. So change. When we don't get so many years in a row, they draft it. But I think that you can solve this. I'm not kidding. This chart can do the first. You have to worry about the row. So first 100 participants successfully make a card to get this if you're beyond 100 you don't get it. There are ways to do it. I mean the national students first 20,000 teachers away. The first 100 participants, successful big accords get this if you're beyond 100 you don't get it. There are ways to do it. I mean the nationals do the first 20,000 teachers away. Yeah. Definitely say that. That's one of the next month. Yeah, yeah. I think it was a great effort. We just will make improvements. Well, it's one of those things when you look at a city, what is false church? This is just another thing that the community does. that helps bring us together and helps us to say, you know, it's a tightly-community, it's something that we do. Right. you look at what is false church. This is just another thing that the community does. It brings together and helps us say, you know, it's a tight-knit community. Well, we use you something to do. Right. Right. But I would definitely encourage people from outside of the city to come into the city. This is for businesses. It's not for people. So we want the people to come to the business. We did a follow-up survey. We've got the The one that is actually wondering about areas is exactly right. So if we said our borderline was the greater false church statistical area. Right. Right. We've got the greater false. If we said our borderline was the greater false church statistical area. Anybody with false church address would certainly be in church. You can want to go to the next slide. Oh, so this is perfect. We did do a survey of the 23 participants so far when I made this slide. 10 of them had responded. All of the feedback was very positive. We're still going to get more information than data so you can really see how the ROI on this was. But I pull up the four main questions to see how satisfied they were. And if they thought it increased customer engagement and foot traffic, you guys can see the results there and how effective our promotions online were and would they be interested in participating in next year? And everybody seemed to feel the same way. Yeah, they all were interested. They felt like it was a work of art. Great. Come on. Congratulations. Okay, next movie. All right. Oh, they have a basket. Okay. Well, I'll find the original. I didn't see that on the... No, it's just part of the work plan update. Oh, okay. Yeah. My understanding is we're waiting to August for the changes. Was there anything else to add? So we're, I think, We're now tentatively slated to give Council an update on July 7th. So that's on the Council schedule. Okay. The general general general general general. Was that included the RFP in property manager? I think that's already in the parking lot. I think, I don't know the specific status, but no, that's not reading.. That's already gone. Yes, okay. Should we move in the apartment? We were supposed to be. Yeah, I don't know how the city management, agreement to manage properties that they don't own. So those are our, I think there was a general agreement that E.A. would be specifically Jim and Matt as assigned to our Virginia village. We'll follow them up by the mantra. Oh, don't you have the sign? I'll shut up the sign of that, Senator. Yeah, I'll leave things to you. They're contracts, too. So we know the property, so engagement might be with us, and I would think we're also done designing. But I would think so when I have not seen it, I haven't been contacted about the selection of the property management. And was that red things as under contract till August? They seem that's a contract, someone's paying attention to it and managing it. It's not going to expire because we didn't have. Correct. When are we buying back that unit for a dollar? That. I think that's obvious. That's obvious. So they, okay, so where's the already owns it? Was there already owns it? Okay. We've got a, we've transformed it by off of the, no, this one's last one. They bought it. Is it closed? We transferred to bioforms. No, this was last one. They bought. Oh, that one. It's closed and they own it. Yeah. So we're not talking about a contract that they're going to assign to us that's going to expire than honor. Where's the answer? I press it. That's OK. They're going to give it to a substantial. Yeah, that's fine. But we should talk about the offer. And here you're taking that follow-up. Thank you. Okay. Does anyone talk to me as others? Other green properties? I'll talk about that now. That was part of me what Wesley was going to be doing. I think I wanted them I have to talk to them. So when they were cranes, they had to afternoon, so what do we want to do? Let's come in the parking some way for somebody who wants to update me on the way he's following up. I'll be having an update. The next step on this, I'll look back with you all on the property management contract situation. I think the next kind of strategy discussions with Council in July. Right. kind of strategy discussions with Council and July. Right, go. Okay, so the main changes for West Falls, are the softwares from the CO, and I think Jubilee is actually open. Oh, they're good, the train this tonight. That's a scoop. Yeah. I'm calling a brand opening dollar scoop, 12 to 2 on Friday. Oh, yes. This Friday. Light up the presses. That's a sweet deal. For school guitar. For school guitar. And 800 students lined up on a hard time. New. The obviously 18 things. And earlier, Alex Zinger, just the graduate was talking about all the, to the lives and stuff, both that are going in around the area. And this is just a bit of an overview of that. Black D1 is the... Because Spaw's still in a studio, had everyone cutting mid April. Thank you to those who could attend. This is a really interesting, um, I love those glasses. I love those glasses. Huh? Love those glasses. Thank you. Um, Mason's parents' officer roles had their ribbon cutting the thief. Yep. Good work. And, uh, I'm from Jubilee, I'm having a, it's been great, I'm sorry. That's Friday. One dollar squeeze from 12 to 2. And City Dance is having an open house. May 31, from 10 to 12, 30. Those that are interested. You need to RSVP on their website. Oh, 19's of course. Yeah, sorry. Oh, nice good information. And then moving abroad, our father's room too. The main thing here I suppose is there's a, we have self, is the med spa that's going to be moving in there. And there's a tour schedule, it's a publicly open public tour, made 12 or 30pm start and the moment details may change. But I've been told so far that you would be meeting at Founders Road 2 and 2 and also include the fear of Founders Road 1. The information for this tour is on the City Calendar. It gives you a little bit of information about the next one. They have a few Kardashians on their client list apparently, so they look to be on the up market. Founders wrote one, the theatre, they have the CEO for the theatre, but it sounds like they're not going to be open to a gym at this point. I'm not sure what the whole road is, but that there is. They've got everything they need to use to open. So that tourist heading to the end of June. Yeah, that's right too. And then also it will be the theatre that cameras everyone as well. And the bistro, RH bistro is open. I don't think that was last time we met. Echanalyze has had a sight plan approved. The look is done. Stratford Garden has a Supreme Primary issue and then workers underway. Don't force caffeine, they're CO is actually issued today, I hope you have your opening very soon. Made by an Anndale project, it's a council work session, scheduled for May 19. I've not believed that the seat any clients yet, so I'm yet. Final start, final submitting today, I believe. Oh, okay. You have a name for it yet? Or it's just going to be called the Quinn Project. Yeah, Quinn peaks. There's a market that's groundbreaking it's hopefully in the winter now. No member of each is the goal. I was... I was... I was... I was... I was... I was... I wasent Hill. Destruction is ongoing. With the group locks, go to your outlet for expecting them to start construction mid-August and the company owners have recently upgraded the lawn area from lawn to artificial check and it's quite nice. Down at the bottom? The groom works as making but no dates. No, no dates. No dates. That's just an aspirational goal at this point. The aspirational problem. The whole bike district is open, if you haven't been down there. It's cool. Yeah, it's lots of bright question lines and so on. It looks like trine. It's going to be trine. It's going to be awesome. Yeah, that is really cool. And then, how do I forget the landlord work all work? Part of the time I fit out is still I'm going, I'm writing an outdoor space on the side of the building. And like I start with plans over here, that's the photo-american, I guess. I'm just joking. Good, yeah. Other member issues related to economic development not personal. I had a question, I want to like horse assault on it. I was driving on Broad Street, coming home from church and notice that one of our signs, one of our EDA signs is like this way to City Hall of this way. Wave, anyway. Wave sign, thank you. The way that it's on the sidewalk is like almost right next to a telephone power pole, which narrows if you're going by with a stroller or something like that or a bicycle on that. What would it take for us to move that like six feet? Where is it? It's probably close to um cherry maybe. Check them out from right outside the browns. I mean, East Brown. Oh, no, it's on East Brown. East Brown. On East Broad. Yeah. I mean, not brown target, but I mean, in which direction? Yeah. If I'm going west. So westbound by Cherry, I'm East Broad. I'm looking. Pass is between like, Dueling and Fairfax. I mean, that, like, you could fight East. I said this to me. I, again, I'll run out there tonight. Take a picture. I'm just going to lose. Things when you're walking the streets. Just walking around town, man. Think it about things. I'll run out there tonight. I'm just wondering, what are you doing? I'm just wondering, what are you doing? Things when you're walking the streets. Just walking around town, man, they get about things, you know? Yeah, I just was like, why wouldn't they, when the trucker's put that up, it's like, why didn't you just offset that by 16 right here? So, we paid a lot of money and there's a stall. They're bolted in the ground. It takes out their enemy. I mean, under close to darkness. It could be like what right away we... I mean, it might close to darkness. It could be like what, right away we... I mean, I don't know. I don't know. It's just... Real quick, I just... Because, like, along the way, I'm sure, you know, I'm chair of the 250 committee. Yeah, I remember saying EDA, we got a real creative group of 15 different organizations and individuals. We've done our brainstorming and we're about to filter down what our targets are going to be and then see if we have any budget items associated with it. We don't have a budget at this point. We're hoping we'll be able to avoid that or get a grant for certain things that we want to do. But it's moving along and when we get to a point where we have our targets and all that, I'll give you guys a more right report. Roger, don't I? I'm gonna say so to you as I say, semi-same. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a mess. Thank you so much. Yep, it's a good group, but the current Washington environment, everything is going on, is impacting. There's something to on, it's a good group, but the current Washington environment everything is going on is impacting. There's something going on. That's a national level. I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm a little, I'm not going to. May you get anything? Everybody, everybody, school systems happy? Are your friends happy? Yeah, I don't know. 14 years from. You know that's system's happy. Are your friends happy? All right. Yeah, I don't know. We're all so much. We're all 14 years wrong. I'm sorry. Yeah, that's Google's Mac. Yeah, Google Mac. Although we did, we were interviewing this week for the next round of TVC, you press, and one of the questions that is, you know, we talked through what they like about Paul's trip city, and then, you know then what would you change and what it was distracting to you and every single one of them talked about the construction around high school. So none of them had an awareness of why there was construction there and that economic development was paid for their $120 million for any of my school with all of that. So I think there's an opportunity for you as the media liaison and us to support you that, to do some education about why that, you know, why do we do what we did, and how were we able to build $220 million in high school, wouldn't they able to do that without this economic development to really start to understand why there's so much construction and what the benefits are and how, you know, you could even go to why we have a CDA and that bonds that people know the people who are building our king for the development doesn't come like there are a lot of different layers and I think it might be a really good opportunity to have student-led education or you know I'm Ross would be happy to leave them. I'm a percentage of three people who saw it out for that project. I don't really go to Merrie and my definitely grew up that way. I probably I can go there a lot faster way to stop. The only way to turn it is temporary light. The one light. It's just annoying. The other day I was like, come. I got to go over by the main deck. Get across and move in. It's the church and it's dirty. It's inconvenient. It's the last gate. It's all the temporary. It's temporary. It's temporary. It is temporary. I think your voice won't take it. Either we build that high school, don't be the development of bankruptcy city. It is separate. It is separate. I think your point won't take it. Either we build that high school, don't be the development of bankruptcy city, or I'm still working in short space. That will help us raise the rate. Maybe like some early ground. Before we go to see 10 minutes. The virtual class, though, I've given two interviews about why we developed. This class is related to finance or business or entrepreneurship. Those are the kids that we've been really interested in. If we went in and applied now, we should. We should. And also, there's a second-hand local. They take local history. And several students talk about like learning about a history of false church. Well, the history of false church should include, you know, in the 80s, we had a decline population. you're closing schools and people don't remember that. And how does the long length of the history of false church, like where do we end up where we are? Well, we created development because we need more people, we need more income and revenue to keep our city going. And this is where we are. I just think there's some really cool opportunities and the students are the ones who shared those concerns and ideas that, oh yeah, we'd love to learn about that. So, I'm very curious to see if we can keep the East Asian. But who talks about that? I wouldn't mind going to talk in this, because I find it's class, because some of the design class, I think the most important thing is, Marine, Peter Lau just, like, a principal, was the kid that I coached since soccer years ago. Yeah, he's a lifer. The loud famed like, I mean... And their kids are in the same place. was the kid that I coached since soccer years ago. Yeah, he's a lighter. A loud fan was like, I mean, and their kids are in the same place. He's a lifer. He knows what it was like to be in the old high school, because that's what he grew up in. And so I mean, he would be a great, I agree with you absolutely that he would be a great person to talk to to get the kids involved and say, and Bob would say, hey, I lived it, I understand it, I know it. Believe me, this is a much better use. Yeah. We have a core. He would be a great person to talk to, to get the kids involved and say, hey, I lived it, I understand it, I know it. Believe me, this is a much better use. Yeah, I know that we have a core. Reading data, something that was the business outreach person for the school. Yeah. She might be a good type of man. OK. One other quick thing on the sidewalk is she would like to give you the mind as well. And it was in Beres County, at least in England, where there's a pole just sitting in the middle of sidewalk. They just popped the sidewalk again. that you can mind as well. And it was in Harris County, at least some of the places I run, where there's a pole just sitting in the middle of the sidewalk. They just felt the sidewalk in and I'm sure it's done in a very different power unit or to do that. It's all realistic. Because on Park Avenue, it's terrible. I'm thinking it's terrible. There's no way in a line of lists to explore anything like that. And if you have a temporary agreement with the property owner to bump it in and put it in those spots, knowing that if we eventually get around to underground utilities, we can solve, you know, fix a little one or whatever. Do you mean that's realistic? No, we can just solve all those spots. Yeah, Park Avenue will get solved as part of the street based from VirginNative Washington. 10 years ago. 10 years three. Yeah, it's coming. Yeah, it's coming. But like Columbia is one, I run Columbia. It was 10 years, there's holes in it. I've heard of blockers. Right, so I hear you. It's good public works and demanding questions. And like, would we consider extending the sidewalk and make it more accessible? We also have the accessibility plan. Yeah. The report in the middle of us? I don't know how this practice came, but there's a spot on great falls just on sunset to say the tree that's falling on that stretch. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know what you're going to do. that's not the last vote in that stretch, no one's going to vote. The absurd is cheaper, easier, install doesn't damage any trees, it could be adjusted down the line. Just something that is practical. And the end part of the accessibility plan, and again, I can plot it, I'm like, here's what your accessibility looks like across the city, and buildings, streets, so that we get a copy. We're all of the accessibility plan, and we can like, and pause it, and like, here's what your accessibility looks like across the city, building streets, so that we get a copy. We hear all the specific issues like you. Like that. So it'll be, it's intended to be a capparein and inventory for us. And that's being worth this spring. So I think that's some of the things. You know, the piece you guys did from a video. It was one year. But it's not again, it's 20 years. But we live in Erwin. Not in second. But it really gets great. Yes. It's hard to imagine why it took 20 years. Yeah. That's it. I mean to your point, I like that block in Columbia. I mean, that's where I go. and we had a long time, you know, life for a resident who's in a mobile school, who literally had to go on the street every time they went down that block to get to the mansion. It was just dangerous every which way. So, I think that should be when I was blinking. Thank you. A.A. Inventory. Yeah. It was just Andy for actually dead young and Minutes. When are the crosswalks supposed to be alive? The heart of the crosswalks. I mean, I ask that question this morning, actually. I asked last week, it was, I was well done in the month. It was pretty good this month. And did this month? It will be for diminishing health. I think we want to also do some public education because they'll constantly new for us. They're dead elsewhere, but we want people to understand what are the light signals mean and how should drivers act? How should pedestrian act? So the light have to stop? So the challenge is your problem. Our signal timing, everything else on the street. So if I know that's one of those things, The students have been, um, and the education has been 26th of the things that seems to be a lot of sounds right. People are using the cross blocks. There are some rules. Let's come back from the gym today and somebody was standing there kind of watching a liquor. I'll stop. Card next week. Yeah, yes. So where's the scenario right now? I think that there's a thing I could take out. You can leave. All right. Thank you, everyone. Anything else? I moved, we did your, all right? Are we? You don't want to call that? Oh, shit. We have a post session. You got to close the session. Sorry guys, I'll be right back. Not bad. I need to right back. Not bad. Not bad. Hi, you too. All right, thanks. Thanks for coming. Rook, it'll be a quick closed session. We're continuing here. Where are we going to close session? Just a minute. We've talked about a closed session yet. You have to read all your stuff, and then we have to turn off the call. You can bring out a ring. We have to go in the ring. It's a real quick man, when we get in the back of a draw, we're going to bring the training to the ring. Oh yeah, sorry actually. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Hey, guys. We skipped over a bunch of them though. That was one of them. That would be the whole one. You already learned that. I got it. A couple of interviews strained. There wasn't any person. If you missed the in person, there's free online training. If I was gonna take this, what state is gonna be done? I don't know. You should have gotten an email from me. you had to do one on one or something. Yeah, and then there's also all the lunch time. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. You can eat the lunch. I got one. Thank you. All right. You have representatives and mentor recognition next slide Yeah, sorry. Nice night. I'm here. Night will be coming back. That was too. Yeah. Alright, student mentors, thanks James and Annie. What does it mean to you? What's your budget? What was that? What's that? I didn't know where you went to the school. It was a school. He goes to Germany for sure. Oh, alright, we got a close session here. here is why we make a motion on the next slide motion. We'll be the reason. I won't die. All right, we got a close session here. It's about to make a motion on the next slide motion. Want me to read? Yeah. I moved that the E.G.A. go into closed session for students to be a genius. We'll be looking. I'd like you to read it, Jan. You can go to the S3711 A3 for discussion or consideration of the Aging Action Control Problem.. So a public purpose for discussion in a full meeting with a person in fact, the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the public body specifically to discuss or consider the property located at 301 parking lot. Thank you. Second. Thank you. Second. Should we close the door to How long are we going to take a vote? Yes. A rustling house? Yes. A show's mark. Here, Alan Vryndman, Jim Kauai, Sandy Kyrs, Matt Klin, Brian Williams. Yes. Thank you. And we can leave the room if you guys want to know how you're needing it. Here. I just owe you a book today, don't regret for your big brother. Can we do a brother? He can, but I'm not a brother. But they have... the room if you guys want to have your meeting in here. Yeah. Oh, I hope they don't regret for you. Can we do it right here? You can. But they have to go down. You guys? You don't have to go to the recording? You're trying to record it? Yeah, just one minute. You'll have to do it. You'll have to do it. You'll have to do it. You need your stuff. Do you have stuff with the lead? Yeah. I'm going to stick around. You have stuff that is stuck. You have stuff that is stuck. It's weird that our council members have the lead too. Yeah. Just a bit more. It's a nice, nice, nice, and today I have you on the trail. Put it in the back. Just a bit more. Just a bit more. Oh, what's the process? It's a very good job of it. It's a very good job of it. They get you, well, really. You'll be stubborn. I'll make a right of the point., tough, like, tiredness on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you pretty calm, maybe. You also invested in a lot of money. Yeah. Oh, it's a good amount of money, I think. That's too many to kill us. And we have one. I'm definitely out there. There's so many of them there. I'll put it in the back. I move the PDA recommendial obsession. The Ministry of Public No-Corps Alliance was taken to those meetings. 10 left, 10 left, the third round. As I've asked not the only one. What are you saying? 10 left. 10 left. Yes. That's like all of the same pass. Yes. Captain, we need to show you a lot of extra. Alan Rangman. Yes. Jim Collar. Yes. Fanny Kittis. Yes. That's Clint. Yes. Okay, last one. Okay, just real quick. I know. Okay, we need someone to say this one. I did the first one. I'll make the most of it. Okay, last one. Okay, just real quick. I know. Okay, we need somebody to say this one. I did the first one. I'll make the most. I was the idiot, certified by the only company. Business matters lawfully. We have to promote the meeting requirements. It's the only case of public business matters. It's the first time I've identified the measure which closed me and was to be in my first discussion. I consider it in the closed session and are meeting by the body. Sorry? Okay, what's the health? Yes. Health, right now? Yes. Gym, core, study, health, yes. Okay. Okay. Russell, can I have a question? Yes. How are you? Yes. Jim Coyle. Yes. Danny Cous. Yes. Matt Quinn. Yes. Brian Williams. Yes. Thank you. All right. We're back in. All right. Good. Just real quick. Item number 18. I think everybody can see that for themselves. for smart growth in the cities. Our next OEDA meeting. I cannot do June 10th. I'm going to be at a town. Why isn't it June 3rd? Exactly. It's a long way to go. It's just a long way to go. It's a long way to go. Shabbat. Does anybody in the group reserve it? It's a public meeting. I would like to do a city decision. Is there any movement later that same week? Is it a city decision? No way. It's a... We're not allowed to have the meeting on June 31th. Yes. It's a... We'll take the heat of somebody's phone lines. Yeah. I would like to keep it on June 3rd. Does anybody have anybody okay have anybody? Everybody okay with that? Yeah. You got my birthday party? So we're back to June 3rd for our June meeting. EDA report, I'll be presenting on June 23rd. If anybody wants to show off or nobody will come out of town. Thank you. Anybody want to participate? And we got a West Falls Sports on point. Any other questions? Any else guys? Yeah good? Yep. Okay. See you Monday. All right. I'm sorry. Founders, direct to your Monday. Yeah. Four, four, four, 30. A month. A month. A month, 30. Four, four, four, four, five, and then agenda. It was like a latex, a child. Four, 30? Yeah. Better. I will be there. You know what kind of theaters I mean? No, the last one. My dad's moved. I already know. I'm sorry too, because he's gonna be there. So I wanted to do the theater. I'll probably come. No, last, well, the last one. My dad's moved, I already know, all of her two because he's gonna be there. So I wanted to do the theater, but I'll probably come, but I'll try to get to the show. We get to the show. You know I know through St.D. I think it's over at the round list. You get to see it. You get to see it. Oh, five down. You get to see it. I think it's right.