Okay, I've got the 904 AM. We'll go ahead and call this regular meeting of the Query O'Candy Commission's Court to order at ordered this time noting that all members of the Court are present. For those of you that are here in person, if you've got an electronic device, we'd ask that you place it on silence at this time. And for those of you participating by Zoom, we would ask that you place your device and meet until such time that you would need to address the court. We'll begin this morning with a word of prayer. I'm going to scratch the head of the father. We thank you for the opportunity together here peacefully today. Thank you. I must wish to have a father. We thank you for the opportunity to gather here peacefully today. And we humbly ask that you forgive us of our sins. Lord, we ask that you continue to watch over the first responders here on earth to protect us and as you watch over from heaven. Lord, we ask that you continue to bless us with fair weather and rains. They're so needed in this area. And as always, Lord, we ask that you continue to bless us with fair weather and rains. They're so needed in this area. And as always, Lord, we ask you place your hand of guidance and wisdom on this court so we might do here on earth what honors you in heaven. We ask all these things in your son's holy name. Amen. Amen. And the pledge is to our flags. Plagia allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, individual, justice for all. Honor the Texas flag, pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God, one and individual. the next item on our agenda is the public forum. Citizens may address the court on any matter or the matter is concerning county personnel or matters under litigation. Each citizen will be allocated five minutes with a total time, not to exceed 30 minutes. Is there anyone here in person that would like to address the court this morning? Yes, sir, if you'll stay in the state your name, please? Yes, I'm the Foddy. I am field director of the Congress of John Park and Great business that I read today here on behalf I know we tried to get a little bit of it and we're gonna work on rescuing them that soon He really looks forward to coming and meeting with the the judge and commission here in Coriola County so that's something that we will we will work on the next availability he might have to do that and we'll coordinate that with your office. So very glad to be here. I want to let you know that we're here to support you anyway. I know also about the agenda item number nine discussion about grants that there are any federal grants that you need an assistance with from from our office for the help of those kind of things and anything else that might be. So just trying to make ourselves available for you, that is fortunate anyway we can. Thank you for being here. And please extend our good wishes to Judge Carter as well. Little turmoil going on up there on these coast. Oh, they're busy. Yes, they, they, they aren't even busy. We're good to have you here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else in person that would like to adjust the court this morning? I was seeing and hearing none. Is there anyone that's participating by Zoom that would like to address the course of Smolion? Seeing and hearing none, we'll move on to item number five on the agenda, which is a consent agenda, noting that there are three items there. The court can consider approving those as a whole or you can choose to address any of those or all of those individuals. Much more. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got five. Very none. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed to no. I was having motion carries item number six, road and bridge report. I'm just going to lay them. On the day before we got 37 open service west 14 of those are inspection, so it's sort of that in the service. We have to point pretty over the regular. During that time, we closed out 39, lighted an ice-based tin rose, lighted 32 rows, burned brush at non-locations, most of that was FEMA-related, cleaned up two galagords. We started resealing, we resealed a good bit of FEMA sections and we kind of just started some of our lightest We're Section 113 that was based, and then we resiled the entire road. It was doing for second course. That section's on 321, 343. 344 was a normal project. 343 were normal projects were normal projects slayer. With its bridge approaches, people work on it. Now, clean ditches at seven locations. Cleaned out one CMP and checked ditch around it. A cleared four fallen trees from the roadway. Pushed one's ventral, came to road 238. Then started to do a lot of staging spraying, get down 29 roads, mug grass, 30 water roads, install a bit of all into two locations, patch 18 locations, then put up much times as much as we could put up 4 curb signs on the replace 3C and V's on for us from make locations and trim trees and three low pensions. We have by space started picking up and reselling right now and doing a lot of sex and say it's been one or two times your day about now currently just and so I'm like you know we have to do that like they they didn't. They didn't want to be. Like they got to get over today. So I'm continuing on around having all these little spots. All right, very good. Thank you. We got a motion to approve the road and green report from Commissioner Matthews, second from Commissioner Vashin, e-further discussion on item number six. Hearing none, all those flavors say aye. All those opposed say no. I just have it motion carries. On the agenda is to consider accepting a donation of $1500 from Matt Tepay. I'm going to pronounce that correctly. Tepay. Uh, at $650 Bluff Creek Road for a thousand feet of road work. So these are gravel roads. We're missing the fast, good mid. Someone think of the old, the kind of old, the dust pressure. Frank Rol, Frank Rol, and vice-transparency of the RUN. RUN brother, president, sir. Vote these over here, the gravel roads that just don't ever have a brother, how many? Well, time's easy guys, little, maybe it's north side and south winds, well pretty bad. And the county's always done this. Nothing really of the norm. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I think that's not the case. I know I say I have it, motion carries. Item number eight on the agenda is to consider accepting a donation of $1,050 from Stewart, logs in at 15 county road 155 for 700 feet of road work. Got a motion to approve from commissioner Matt to use a second from commissioner Taylor any further discussion on item number eight. 39, all those in favor say aye. All those opposed to no. I just have it motion carries. Item number nine is update and actions on grants to include but not limited to SS48 and PRCT, CDBGMIT and DR4781. SS48 is recall we're in the window to be able to submit for that particular grant. However, one of those projects is covered under the CDBGMIT and we have yet to identify another project. Our window of opportunity is closing. So what I'm going to ask of the court is if you have a project you wish to be considered Please let mr. Lake them know So we can vet those and get that information to NRS No later than this Friday Otherwise, we just dropped that project completely and we go with the I think believe it's the other two that have been previously designated under SS for a but we've got them. We've got to make a decision on whether we're going to include something with that particular grant or not. What was the value of the one that was dropped? $500,000 or three replacement projects. Right, they were out in the bind. They were $500,000 of these. There's one money set aside for engineering fees. The other two projects were winter road and canner road 133. The bridge on the ball now, plus the third project. Actually, it was the first project that I found in those three. It was in that location. It is the one that hasn't now been approved. It was receiving the G- me it. So we need to replace it. The place that it goes in the application, there's a lot of things in the application, including some early warning signs for low water crossings and such, but it needs to be a substantial 5th Album Auto T replacement of low water crossing without a way to structure would be kind of a spotting opinion. That, you know, in an effort to make fault in our road, a long term, alternative route Lohar Cross and Lohar Cross and Lohar Road there is very little concern with me. I spot the considers of my people. Hopefully long term we've been told that Lohar Cross and the Strauss Mill is going to be addressed at some point. Probably about the same time, these projects will be sometime after October of 2027. But be my guess, but I'm not mistaken. I'm ready to plug into the project in there. They're going to have to re-value those projects probably. I don't know. It's $500,000. Clear. I think that's coil three on the road, isn't it? Yeah. It's going to be about the same dollar amount of $2.74. It's going to be a big project. Ladies and gentlemen, there's a lot of water comes down through there. And we're with 133, that's Dodge. As I was pretty good, we could put a yoder bridge in there. We could handle that, much better. But yeah, I went a rose bug on maybe a little more money. And, you know, of course, that water crossing to Burwood, Bollman, I I'm not it's low down there, very low all the way across there. But it's not in some animal amount of water that comes down through there. Either this isn't real fast, or come up in the ground. The problem goes as calm, goes on. But you don't get any ideas that they would be a good day to explain to us. No, because we need to get that. I played 15-15, and I June, I don't remember the exact date, put it in there no longer. Anything else to cover under SS 4A? Again, our suspense on that needs to be this Friday, you know, if we're going to have a substitute project. Oh, yeah, one big good. Okay. Precinct three. Sorry. I'm now? Six and a $5. Six and a $5. 355. 356. 356. the rest on the main. Fidgeted in plainly ruined. There's a lot of good issues there because we've got to drive away. 127 there. Right. Right. Same drainage as 133 just around the corner. Ball. That $9.00 to. 247. We'll work across and over there. but Cro croge property, if it's overtried out, it's a little bit on things, that's another major, I'm gonna just go over, they're pretty de-six, potentially something there at Hank Valley, and it's probably not as high ranking as others, but there's's other access to the help that is easier to get around it. But, you know, sort of things we've been told is for your rivers. One, the nine backs of, kind of makes it impossible if you've got a gonerial, or a meat. They potentially big valley, better than some of these, South Dakota. So it was the, which on Friday, about 7.16, right, South, and so on. All right, when he goes down, that will be the concrete. Okay. Okay, something concrete. I think it's just the beginning of the law. They keep doing it. Based on the limited conflict, I'm just thinking of the law, the big team. Based on the limited conversation, I kind of like the ball, not just based on this reason. That's a thoroughfare. I mean, a lot of people use that as a, you know, it's not an accident or, you know, of x-interference out of an area. I mean, that gets a lot of cross-tracking. And it implicitly might kind of bode well. of exit or entrance out of an area. I mean, that gets a lot of cross tracking. And it implicitly might kind of bode well that we're doing something when the straws milk comes up. We can say, we're doing our improvements along the way. Now, you guys need to make your, that's just my two cents, I think, all not, with Fit pretty good. If it fits the money wise. Okay, so the second crossing side it balled up. See the seeding change you meant, aggressive. Canada 274 and the little bridge on Balanab, the bridge bridge bank is blazing. Yes, it makes a bridge. Yes, that's how the Lordbury can. Don't worry. like little bridge owned by the little bridge bridge bridge bank splice years it makes a bridge yes that's how the word bridge can really that bridge I'm going to add yeah I think the company bridge today is structure over and you always call it same car I always be thankful across the things well we all hope that yeah and you already go take a look at 274 that is uh just that I consternated over that a couple of times whether it's even a little bit. Okay, anything else to cover under SS 4. HMP believe we're still in the process for reimbursement. RCP, I have been woefully behind in getting a draft to you. I'm still working on trying to get that for the subdivision piece of that, but it is. I'm making slow progress, but progress. There's a road to having to be on zoom. But it to me. I don't see you earlier. So I have an head and bowler made report or I believe it have options so they would get bowled. So we have one big report so if they bow on that and that's under its understanding that it's part of our contract they want to contract they were going to provide for any construction services on that. That's for about how long we've been doing it and how I've been following the month before it's with the GLO Tiger System. I think that it comes again by the report on Mayfield. So they would be involved because I get the emails that they're not followed timely. I wait and feel about my field. I'll just see if I'll find some ways to move on. So I thought that the last time we talked about that they were going to take that over. I thought it was going to be a long journey. But there are no other reports that have been filed either on that project in the system. And my understanding is Dr. Grant and the administrator, so I think this was worth. I did not know, think about the Grant and the administration requirements on that project because I have my red demo. but I'm pretty confident that there are reports that are being banaled on programs on that project. And I believe that we have made payments on that project to our members. I think that we have a right to request those funds, but I don't know how that works. I don't know where all that's at the process. You just want to make sure that everybody here knows that I'm not in charge of that and I've been not thinking of that. So if it is not really thinking of, it's not my fault. But I can't make sure that the will send them out on six. I did not completely read through the email traffic when they finally responded with their EIN. So I've probably made an incorrect assumption. I will follow up with Brooke and I will get resolution on their administrative piece as well as other reports that should be filed. I have not seenG met. I have not seen any email update traffic since notification. Have you seen anything Mr. Belt? I still have not yet any more information about who our manager that actually wouldn't think you know that Pam, Rahorn, LaHon, excuse me, I don't know or had sent an email out out. You'll be respond and let them know the stuff that we needed and that are the planted. She's sending them out by its inbox, you open the information. They were still looking for the affirmatively furthering fair housing information that's been provided. There was about four pain times. It has been run now once again, that was on my sits. The lab heard nothing since then. But she didn't get it because she said thanks to you. There. That was my last president. We went there. We heard nothing else. Good. I'm good. Anything else to cover under CDBG met questions? Then moving on to DR 4781. Thought we had a real productive meeting with them a couple of weeks ago with FEMA. We have finally gotten some things hashed out and resolved and I believe that we're all kind of moving in the same direction. I think the email driver will earn more change or is approaching. I don't like people who are like, I don't like people who are very different. Very different things. I did not see that one. I guess Mary is either all vacationers, or the media, or the media. I thought Mary was just on vacation and yes I have somebody fill in that's they're at the play catch up and they're trying to reroute them I'll direct our office to give them a list of what we think and what categories they are, and that's what we want some to do. We wrote that spreadsheet like we'd what I'm going to do. I'm not sure if that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure if that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure if that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure if that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure if that's what I'm going to do. I'm not sure it wasn't. and present it to two projects, but those are going to both the main, very $1,000 dollar threshold, where are you going to have, I mean, the original, what the breakdown. Yeah. What does that kind of go to see large? Yeah, it goes large project, and there's some procurement processes that you've been coming to play once you get into large project. Well, so we have Mr. McCoskey asking if there's very, he can help us with. You know, this is FEMA and just give you a quick. This is from the floods of last May and we experienced a lot of damage and they are just. Can I just put on? Yeah, please do. Yeah. So I am familiar with that situation. And our adjacent county is also having some challenges with the same, the same blood and the same issues that change a personnel with FEMA. So certainly that, I agree that is something that if you like to bring to our attention That we can have our you know have our folks get involved in that I I so I think that's a discussion that you may want to have But see what we do this is for that. So I am with that like another county is brought this thing issue to our attention So I will wear that Good, thank you and. And the heart of it, don't stop. I was just gonna say that's it. It just maybe needs a push because we keep submitting and submitting and you're hearing this last time. Well, we don't like the way this, you know, but they keep changing about what, seven, eight project coordinators, wherever you wanna call them. And every they want to start out and I don't know whether it's we for it to catch you. I definitely agree with that our office is so absolute that's something that we can find a way to help with that we desire to do that. One of the biggest challenges that I see is the continuity of their information from changing from person to person and there is a very elaborate portal. This web base. is the continuity of their information from changing from person to person. And there is a very elaborate portal, this web-based process of submitting things that onsite inspections, photos, damage reports, all of that could be in there to maintain that continuity. And at least we've experienced three different occasions, maybe even four, but where they want to come out and do side inspections. And even in these most recent ones, because we have continued to work on these areas that were damaged, they don't look the same way that they did a year ago. In August or July August timeframe, I think we have better records to speak. We documented when we took them to one locations in the pitchers. That was August, August time to drink. From December, they were told to go back and re-inspect because they had not been to those sites. And November, to January February, I've been requesting their inspection reports, I'm actually meant to put it in tires, but I've got to be an inspection report to these locations, pitchers, GPS coordinates, and you know, through the spectacular colors. They kept saying that they didn't have any. What makes it said they wanted to go ahead and we had been in these sides, wanted to go back and revisit them. So no, we're not wasting the time to do that. He's already been there. Yeah. Here was your inspector. Here was one day we went, what time we were there? Well, the next week they show up, especially. I mean, this just seems like this. The macro pool. There's a couple things I've written on. One is that if I could have a recap of kind of the history of what happened to be sent that to me. I get our votes and tell you this is what we've done. Talk about changing personnel and personnel, and what things the chip do over again, because of that, I think it would be real good to explain and say you know, handles its federal challenge. I'm gonna encourage the other county to maybe tell their story as well. And you know, I might involve, I mean, obviously, I don't know what folks that are in policies, other things too, they okay, then we need to do a sit down where we need to do finally get this moving forward for your county. But, you know, but I know we have familiarity with the issue of FEMA and that work. I was actually getting scammed on the day of the project to solve it. So, yeah, so I think that's a way to see if we can find a way to get the freight through this log dam and get this completed for you. All right, thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. Anything else to cover under 4780? Any other grants? The court wishes to cover. Here's none. We're going to item number 10 update on construction projects. The only real question I have is in the Commissioner Basch, I think you've been pretty diligent in working on claims on, you know, some deficiencies down there. Are we getting any feedback making any progress on? The couple of issues against the Mayhem and the rest of the caretakers. I've got a couple more issues to see if people could be going next week. And I also have a major clinic Friday where I walk through the OC Hall and not going to be very appreciated, cleaning it up and getting back to the key. So we're done. We're going to look over there. So we've closed out with gates bill and then get pro right or last bill. I'll say this 300 and so I'll say this 300 and sorry, $375. Then the last one I've got is the kind of with the site down there to clean up with pallets and things like that. Is anybody coming back to do that? Okay. I'll be sure to have that every week. OK. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. Does anybody else have anything to cover under construction projects? Under round number 11, because there are actions on I'm support construction projects, and anybody from the court have an action to take. Very none we want to item number 12 on the agenda which is to consider the RFQ 2025 for health insurance brokerage services. I sent out the template to you in the packet and this morning I provided the filled in copy. There were no changes to it other than to you in the packet and this morning I provided the build-in copy. There were no changes to it other than to put in Coriola County and contact information and dates. So these RFQs will be due back on May 30th with a deadline of questions on May 27th. I don't think we have time for a program. I think we're going to have to go through broke the switch and started out a lot earlier. I don't think we have enough time for because we're broke for fact, and then then to get everything together to get to this and that. There is the provision that we have the right to reject any or all submissions. So I think it's worth at least getting some responses and see if they can broker health insurance for the county. I don't know. I'm not a health insurance broker person. I hate to ask people to do work if we don't plan on executing it. And my questions that I have, I think we could answer on the side. You know, the last couple of years we've been, you know, going directly to these insurance companies and negotiating our own deals. And though prior year we think we negotiated very, very two years ago. Negotiated very hard. Brokers and anything, they make money. How do they make money? The insurance companies. So I've just always had a question whether you get property ill and then if they engage, let's just pick ABC firm, ABC, health care, then that precludes us, I believe, from any of our direct engagement at that point. They won't, I mean, they'll say, we're already engaged with the broker on that. We're not going to discuss anything with you. And I just got, I just got a question. I've always thought, you know, control your own destiny or somebody else will. And I think there's been some work done. I think there's been three different entities that have been contacted. There's been some web conference calls, conference calls with other counties. So I do think there's three options that are on the boards. You know, right now that are being worked by the benefits administrators which is the treasurer's office. I'm okay, like you said, I mean, we can make them go through the process, but I always hated when I was in private industry of doing per se quotes, if we're not really serious about it. Well, I am serious about it from the standpoint of, not intimately familiar with all the aspects of health insurance. I think it would be worth our wild to have somebody that would advocate on our behalf. Did that's what they do as a profession. And if the cost is not in line with what the court would want to spend for those services, then we counter their offer. And at the end of the day, if we can't make come to an agreement, then we part ways. We always learn things in different ways.. I'm not opposed to it. I agree with Matthew. We'll be able to pull it off this year. But maybe we can learn. How they work the little bit I've had exposure to them is they don't expose many times what they're made. Now they're paid directly by the insurance company that they're... but you really don't know. So we've been... just like if we deal direct, we're only getting the final number. And they'll usually position one company, you know, they're going to say, oh, this company is the best because they're too short-controlling. So they're going to pick the one probably that they make the biggest commission all-time. That's what I think. I don't know that for a fact. But I'm evaluating an insurance. You do get now. I don't know in the bottom of our money insurance area gap now I would have found that we got 21 discussion hours a week. For real coming out the years and course, you know, what's the better course to action than, you know, I'm sure you have some big reach up as well about some integrations. Well, to me the value in this comes in under the scope of services, which is evaluating our current benefits, market the benefit plans that we seek, what level of coverage we wanted to seek. And then the big one is evaluating our benefits versus what the market is overall with other entities about our size. I mean, that's the comparative analysis that I don't think we've really done. I tend to believe that we are very benefits rich compared to other entities, whether they be public or private sector that are our size. But I can't tell you that definitively. That's what I believe. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. for the final if you're going to leave me unless I have the Friday but it's past time to do something. In this report, I've been sending emails about this since March 3rd, at least. So I'll do something. Got one of these numbers, put the budget for the day long. So the question becomes, do you want an issue that RFQ or not issue an RFQ? Thank you. I don't know how long it takes to contact and market to people, but I would think mid-July they would have numbers to us. That's what we do broker not. We're going to use broker is what's going to be good for. Set and not using the broker. You all don't have time. That's around. Go out for a broker. Get those back in. Look at them. Figure out. Yeah, you're naive. And then go out for more of a feedback. Real care. There not enough days left. That's what I did that. That's my, we're gonna, that's what I wanted to ask that when they're welcome to come to my room. Nips through the days when we had a broken, and the day when it didn't have a broken. Think about them, didn't bother me any, say you. I thought I'd be able to do some job. But like any... Think about them didn't bother me any say. I thought I'd play a bit of decent job. But like any vendor, the amount of service you get is often directly related to the amount of work you put into it and the amount of communication you have with your vendor. And towards the end there was not much of that with taking bottom. That's the reason my opinion that the courts had a day or two anytime. I'm not sure that that wasn't the court's fault, but I'm communicating with the public. But that was a long time ago. I'm not sure any of you were here. I don't remember. This man is not a subject in the end of that. I'm not sure. Yes. I'll tell you. My recollection is, and I certainly could be wrong because you all know, the health insurance attorney was that as lots of insurance, this is a regulated industry in that there is a There are regulations regarding what are brothers and draw it from a Healthcare provider insurance company and that that's all pretty much I don't know if it sets that's what I understood it from the time before And that it was about a half a little percent of the spout that he was back to him. I think what it's worth, I could certainly be wrong. I would say no to the broker's silence, still think we have the cash. Is that a motion to not issue RFQ 2025-02? Okay, there's a motion and a second to not issue the RFQ for health insurance brokerage services. Any further comments from discussion from the court? All those in favor say aye. All those opposed to no. I'm sorry. You can abstain. Okay. I was having mostly curious to not issue the RFQ. Moving on to item number 13, which is considering offer from the Hill Country Community Action Association to purchase county owned real property. This is the back lot and a half of the county owned property situated at 201 North Letter Low. They have offered an amount of $80,000. as we've stated in previous discussions, we've initiated the process to the ownership of the county. The property is a lot of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the property in the ownership of the the property in the ownership of the county. We've got a motion to accept offer from Commissioner Bastion, the second from Commissioner Matthews, the first discussion on item number 13. You know, and all those in favor say, I, all those opposed to no. I just have it motion carries. Item number 14 is to consider actions on an order of Queryl County Texas authorizing the issuance and sale of Queryl County Texas tax note, tax note series 2025, letting a tax in payment thereof and enacting other provisions related to the subject. So, that's the special care of our deputy's graduation, but for y'all, I think we's a good amount of information for you all. I think to go to notes and we're attending here. I really think we can question about the note documents. And, general, I've got this. I don't know if I understand what it's going to be. All right. So, you've got the same process that we went through in 2020. We've been in the tax note group, various county buildings. We've been this out to about 80 banks across the state of nature, all the way to the exact shot to then. We are a passport generally person to around 1.24 million. There's no sale. There's no matured, 2032. And then it'll be quality in $20.29, early $20.29, which allows you to pretty pay or refund if the market allows you to do that. We received nine bits from banks. We sent out the term sheet two. It's the rate that came in, the lowest rate, what we're trying to do is bid the lowest rate, the lowest economic financing for the 10th is 3.86%. That is a fixed rate for the life of this notice, human children will call it 0.29. We provide it to many patients, y'all back in April. We're looking at a rate quite a bit higher. We had some room in there, because there was some Crazy enough there's a lot of the treasure markets, the stock markets, everything there's a lot of volatility but we're just happy that this rate came in where it did sound at 4%. We all choose to move forward with this no-order today. We'll close on June 11th. That's what pros need to be available. Page 2 is in the list of banks and instead of the firm P2, we did have specific follow up with double locals to make sure they've got it and they've had a chance to end up talking to bid. So the actual bid, population is on page three. And Texas Regional was the winning bid. That's a bank that started in the Rio Grande Valley, and believes that they're now head to Corridor in Houston. 3.86 and JPMORN Chase, obviously, a big NA bank. Now they've been a couple of different structures, but the spread between the high and the low is kind of high opening, just to highlight the market, how they're in cost capitalists. So that's what we bid this out to make most rate for the county. Page four is the structure, the debt service on these notes. Roughly, it's $15,000, that's fixed for the life of the node. The first payment is going to be $2,500 to $26,000. So when you set your tax rate this summer, that's going to have to be included in that. Or these tax notes, you can see the impact is zero growth in your tax base. Just a fraction of a, you know, a cent there to support this debt. We think there's some very conservative assumptions, zero growth. Probably conservative collection rate too, at the time of seven. Page five is this a the source is conducive to so-called legally authorized ignore, considering today 1.35 million of the tax notes that generate proceeds. I've mentioned on the previous page about 1.24. Out of that, you have to pay your cost of insurance. Those are all the parties involved. Our few bond council will certainly general bank will have it be as well. So that's all the financing costs. Femte Bond Council, Attorney General, Bank will have a fee as well, so that's all the money to cost. And then, it probably goes well today, Julia, and her firm, and carry this to the Attorney General and be approved, and proceeds will be delivered on June 11th. So, happy to answer any questions about the, because I actually am in poverty, and Julia is here at force for more of the selection in the documents. questions. Questions, comments or concerns from the report on the recommendation of Texas Regional Bank. the one, two, and three. Pretty close. The difference being number two is there's no prepayments. But obviously the legal fees are much less. And then, of course, then, JP Morgan came back with one, the little higher rate that allows us basically the same pre-payment. And it gives that a pretty complex analysis to see what the difference in interest makes up those legal fees. We don't have that sported, but we need the analysis that it's still overall, we look at the total debt service assuming it's headed by standing slightly more legal fees for Texas regional and still that rate still overcomes, sort of figured it dismal because they all have fees. Right, right. So that's all I've got. We just didn't want to argue with the whole head, but we did look at that. Okay. You look through all that thing, you've been in front of all of them. It's exactly what we asked for. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so that I can get the wording correct me and this is please help me jump in here if I'm if I butcher this. So we have a motion to issue the order. the issuance of the tax note series 20, 25, as well as identifying tax, tax as regional bank as the pay agent and the registrar and approving that agreement and identifying tax as regional bank as under our private placement and you're good with that being the same second. Christian Matthews. Okay. placement letter. And, and you're good with that being the same second. Christian Matthews. Okay. Any further discussion on. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't know the 14. Jeff, I've got all the documents here. The original, there are singing here. It's places for you from this new or a miss. Farlem and from this blue. So this soon as the meeting concludes, I can get all of you all in. Wish Robuff was another together that over here in the classroom. Get all of these executed so we can send them back with our counsel today so they can get those on over the agency's office and finish up this process that would be my go for today to get these out of our hands. Well if there's no objection from the court once we take a vote we take a vote we didn't have any taken on. What's taken about so that we can get these documents executed and not hold some things up. I would ask for your indulgent so that we take a brief recess for about 10 minutes to be able to get those those items taken care of. So, with that any further discussion on riding number 14. Hearing none, all those members say aye. All those are publicly known. I just have it motion carries. Well, we will take a brief. very none all those papers say aye all those are probably no I just have it motion carries we will take a brief 10 minute recess we can execute those documents and we will reconvene at 10 10 We've got 10 a.m. We'll go ahead and reconvene in open session picking up with item I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. Apple, yeah? Sorry. I can go get a gap. I've been number 15, which is to consider and roll in Quail County and the Texas Association of Counties and your cyber security trainings. I believe we sent out the template and I believe there is a cost of five dollars per person as part of that enrollment. I got a question. We do this every year. So who are we going to? Are you ready for this, Brandon? Who are we going to put down as the county IT administrator that's required on this? For this particular piece would be Ms. Robuck. So that all of the communications will funnel through her as far as reporting compliance. And she has a previous list of last year and I think the year before the people so to get it uploaded and submitted rather than recreating something for another department. But. It's just a requirement that the earlier already or anything. Under Texas government code 2054.5191. Yes, it is a. It's crazy. I mean, you do the same thing over and over. It seems like you just do the new employees. The old ones. Five at the Mr. Plenty's talk to your state legislature about the performance. They placed up what the government said. A place from themselves. No doubt. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Oh, thank you. Okay, so we've got a motion to approve from Commissioner Matthews, second from Commissioner Bashamon, any further discussion considering item number 15. Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. All those opposed? I know. I just have motion carries. Item number 16 is to consider contract with Spindle Media for Tax Collection Software. Mr. Crowley. I'm going to start with the right hand side. This is the adopted the clean and the shot so one and then we're tired of it. We're taking a break and getting my paperwork all signed up. I didn't have to do it here. I felt but for me, I'm here, but sure though that I signed the first satisfaction. I'm sure she got to do it. I want some prevention, Mr. Bell. I feel better. I'm sorry. So this. So you know we've been talking about three plugins about our server, you know, being the device, when that's coming out, it's kind of thing. So last year I told you that our server was out of its lifecycle, that we could purchase want extra year of the warranty on that, so to delay and replace it with that or software conversion. So we did that. So coming up this year, we're gonna have to replace that server or our other options to convert our software to a new company that then require all that stuff. So I started earlier this year or in the last year working on that going through that process of seeing those different software options, talking them, demoing them. The best one still is this one that brings you today's criminal media. To get on the list, to be converted, the reason I'm here today is because we can't just say, hey, we want to do it, and then all that happens, you know, overnight. So it's a long process. You're going to take them five or six months to convert us over to that. So they want to come at it and start that process. So I brought you this to show you what that means in dollars. On the first page there in the blue is showing our 20th year for software and IT and all that. We just right now it's 54,000 years. The next section area is how I'm yellow. It's the what the October 2020 about budget would look like if we just replaced our server. So that line I have to go up to 87,586 dollars. So we're looking at about 20,000 dollars to replace all the hardware that we use in our office. Server-wise, I don't think the second paragraph there in yellow is if we convert our software instead of replacing our server. So if we go to this new software, there's no more server, no that hardware required. So we're all, it's a cloud-based software. So all we have is our PCs to connect to them. So you can see there $66,750. And the bag of this is the contract of things like 13 pages. If you look at page 10, That shows the annual cost of the software, 40,000, which is actually a little cheaper than both will be paying in the history of budget for our current software. They come back to 41,000, 172. And then there's the one-time costs converting the software and then training my staff to use the software that comes to about $38,000. All the companies that Dr. Seville, they're all about the same. Between 30,000 and 50,000, in order to what the cost of the conversion. This per reference they've had, President, you know, they're looking at software options due during the early stages and the conversion for the CAD is like $250.00. So, you know, all the pins on the amount of data you have, and they're transferring. Anyway, so spend the medias willing to let us pay that conversion and training costs up out over three years. charging us 12,000 or $1,500 a year for the first three years to pay that. We'll in front, which I think, you know, I can say, it's a good thing. So that's why that number comes to 66,750 per year for the first three years. And then after those first three years were back at, you look at the second page of that, assuming there were no pressing creases on anything, we would be right back at what we're paying now for software can, IT services. So when the other packet that I gave you, that's all about spend the medium, talks about their history. So this company is solely based on tax collection software. That's all they do. Current company we have, they do a raise and district hand tax off. Raise and district software is much more complicated than our software. So you can imagine we're most of the focus of that company is. So it will be nice to have a company that totally focuses on what we do. They're not worried about any other cost-signor any other processes. So this is a cloud-based software, like I said, eliminates the need for all the hardware and the cost associated with that on the yearly basis and on current basis, only have to replace that stuff. It's going make it easier on last time for many reasons. So the current company we have, we got in 2002, so we had about 23 years. It's really good software, it's been good to us. At the time it was probably the best there was. They they've sold about three times since I've been here in the last 19 years. Current company is a huge corporation. They haven't really put any money back in software. The last probably decade. Their focus I think is to make money and not to invest, I think. So it's kind of lagging behind technologically. All of the new companies, all the companies that are producing tech software are now cloud-based. And ours is not. a pinch by with this the federal media has a breakdown. They're current customers. M30 counties right now. You know, I think their plans, I don't know this. I think they're told me 3 to 5 converting with this next year. One would be us if we signed another as co-master county, they've already signed. So they have festivores like what you can see there, you know, but there's some big ones, college county, Terry county, Wise county. I probably talked to 15 of those. Text block this. You know, I just asked, you know, when I was going to do this, like, you know, how does it work? Please with it, you know, no one's ever said anything negative bad that I've talked to. But it goes through a lot of detail. You know, this software was based on a, it's a mobile, it was developed for mobile websites. So, you know, our current website is a web-based website. We do have some modifications made to someone you've pulling up with your phone that it doesn't go on beyond, you know, huge phone and go to some web sessions. You can't even read it all because they're not developed for your phone. This one is it was designed that way from the beginning. Makes these are on the taxpayer under China pay the bill. You know, it's also the taxpayer can go in to the website. They can set up their own account in there. They can add their properties to that notifications. They get notifications when anything changes on their property. When the bills come out, when the bill reviewed, remind them. You know, in our current website, you have to go in there. You have to know either what your accounts are or what the names are on your accounts to have some different name. So it's going to make it a lot easier on the customer and on FIS. But like I said, mostly these pages go to the look and feel of the software, the website. There's a lot of information in there. I'll be answering questions if you have any on those. But like I said, that's why I'm here outside of the budget is because we able to get this done. They want to contract. The same we're going to do it so they can start on. We actually wouldn't go loud with the new software to all of you, the first, 2026, that would give them the time to convert and then give us time to go this next text season. We definitely know the story. You know, 90 times, I can see how many people are taking the time. So this would give them the time to do that. We did get the contract and we should build. You know what he mentioned. Any questions on that but he has seen it. It's the understanding. So, very tough now. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and have a motion from in the contract was been the media for tax collection software as represented by Justin Brothers. Thank you. Have a motion from Commissioner Reddle, a second from Commissioner Bison, in further discussion on item number 16. Here you're none, all those members are. All those opposed say no. I just have it motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Brothers. I'll get that sign and get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back. I'm going to go to the office to get that back please record. I'd like to talk about, you know, about this commissary service real quick. You should have all got packets. Last. Winters over to be able to look over and make your own evaluations. If you need to do so, however, the sheriff's apartment did it with power, a panel. Four people. Myself, the days chief, a retired TDC officer, and a lady from Grand Canyon University, both of these other people who wanted to go northside and went southside of the county, going to the city. We, I say we along with the principal wealth help, we made some categories that we'd like to explore these companies on based on the needs of our common series services. So that's what they received the score sheets and how it's formed. I was really kind of surprised to see out of five companies that put in for this, the four people who were empowered on this panel voted exactly the same in order from one to five. Now the scores were different obviously, but none of them even met with each other. We didn't have around as long as we all set the score. They were given the packets and they were done scoring. I'll admit they're up. And you'll see that on the front sheet that I've given you gentlemen, the names, product solutions. Obviously blue all of them have a lot of them. They had a total cumulative scores of 372 for 93%. The next closest one was a 78.5%. One of the things about Prodigy that brings us, we think that it would be out of provider, is that currently it will receive in 20% of commissary sales, and that's not up to the growth sales. So after all of being, the money's are taking out to pay for the commissary services, then we get a percentage of 20 of what's left, right? So proxy services offers us 4.3%, which is 23% above where we already are. The other thing that they're doing is they offer us the first month because of the transitional period. You know, you're going to have glitches in your system and then be mess with it, makes money and so on and so forth. There often is up to $15,000 that we take 100% of whatever is so that first income sort of, which is unheard of. No other company even made that, that they're also willing to believe beyond board with this. Within the next 30 to 60 days of adjunct installations. Now, we think about it long term. And so we've felt that discussions about our telephone services that we know that is coming up in our co-operative league, our co-operative clinic, that we've our contracts out with home waiting that we will not be renewing. So where do we go to phone services? Nice thing about front-of-the-scenes services is they offer a phone service as well. That puts us in a one-stop shop. The other thing that that does for us, it helps us, it helps for the belts office and it helps the district attorneys office because they offer tablets for the inmates. It doesn't sound like much but when I can put the wall library on a tablet and give it an inmate, that's cutting down on a lot of things that we're currently doing. I'm having to take an inmate, set them in a room for an hour with somebody watching them while they do their legal, whatever they're doing. So being able to do that on the other side of that, the other thing is required by the state is that we have some type of services, like delicious services goes. We're already putting that on the TV program as it is and now we can put that on tablet as well. All of this is at zero cost of this county, cost nothing. They provide all the equipment, they put the equipment in, they provide software, there's no expense to use with. The upside for this board is, where does that come to say funds go? We use a lot of come to say funds for buying indigent supply for those guys who don't have any account. We bought brand new uniforms that didn't affect the budget line last year because we were all scrambling to make that budget work. So a lot of that suffers purchase at a commissary money. If I can build some things going forward with the tablets, one of the things I want to start as a GED program, and I think that this is in these guys at least start their education if they wish to do so at their expense. And I don't see why we don't do that. There's a lot of those little projects like that. Currently we're running an A and an N-A that's paid for by commissary dogs. So it's all of these special projects that we have going for these inmates for the most part are not funded by the court. So I'll even in your hands to make the decision. I'll tell you that if you read the sheet that I put in front of you, probably your solutions obviously to be overall winner, have the five people that put in. And I would tell you that only one of these companies was small. These other guys are all heavy hit. I mean, key, prodigy, current key corrections, all of them are nationwide companies. So they're supplying everywhere. Or this is not. We didn't have just one company that came in and then everybody else was a moment box shop. We only had one of those, been I bought and they're our current provider. So I think by gradient to Southern company that offers a ton more of stuff on compensator. That it makes it by they can buy underwear they can buy all kinds of things. Right? So by offering them a large selection and turn, it says more money. And in turn, more money, it's just for the ability to do more programs. I'll leave it to the board. Any questions? I have nothing. I'm going to select problems Okay. We got a motion from Commissioner Bastion to select the property solutions under the inmate trust accounting, commissary services. Sorry. And a second from Commissioner Matthews. Any further discussion on item number 17. Very none. All those papers are out. All those opposed to no. I just have it motion carries and Kevin Clinton I will tell you I appreciate the your due diligence and putting all this together the grading of it. It just made it Very very easy for the court. So thank you. I just second that moment Are that comment I should say very well thought out. Thank you. Item number 18 on the agenda is a discussion and consider office and facility spaces, commissioner Matt to use. When the room was afforded and. tax office and everything. I thought we needed to get the judge for what our plans are, if somebody is another DA office is over when the needs face. But it was also, it's effective by elected officials that she was told to be prepared to move out of the office office on the bottom of the courthouse floor. I don't know that we have we've ever discussed that. I think that's an action of the colored but that's what I wanted to talk about. I didn't know where everybody wants to go and what it's like. I think the part is into it too. We probably got a lot of surplus. Yes, and the chairs and stuff we're going gonna also have all the tax on. It's almost like we got a clean house first. So I don't know if we, traditionally like off right now, I believe we offered a little bit of the chairs. Yes, I've got them things. I guess that's the first thing. First step, offer it up. Anybody wants to? Once another a chair, maybe they have new chairs for us. We didn't want to jump in, no. You didn't. You didn't. And there wasn't, are there anything really? We move all that, I guess. Yeah, we've all moved it over to the board. did over the 40th. I can't do it. It works actually, no tax on. Oh, yeah. Probably you all can. The local group, Bill Amber. Yeah, so anybody meets a bottle can, or the dashers and cares, let me know what we've got. I don't think they're going to be able to rephrase that. They're really used, but they're, you know, they're not stealing these. What are we traditionally done? Can we send, can you send out like a thing that says, if you want to come examine and then see, see You know we get that over to those and then just salvage the rest I guess We being The the filing cabinets if you look behind me There is a vault that Has probably about a dozen filing cabinets that have been that well, I mean, I'm saying some of it is kind of a no brainer. They're not going to but yes, we can do that. And then really kind of in conjunction with that is I agree with Commissioner Matthews from standpoint of we probably need to have a dedicated look shop to kind of talk about what this looks like because I think that plays, there is a part of that that's gonna play into the budget of this year, what we can afford to do, and what we can't afford to do, and kind of what those priorities are. There has been a very informal request, just conversations about the old 40th courtroom remaining as a courtroom, a functioning courtroom, which provides some huge level of flexibility with our judicial system. And just as an example of that is, if we have a visiting judge right now in the 52nd District courtroom, that really puts Judge Farrell's docket on hold while that visiting judge is taking care of whatever court proceedings there are. This gives us the latitude to be able to continue to move his doctor for, he has over the foot for them making difference. So, you know, and part of that is just the efficiency of how we deal with the accused in Coriol County. And so I think there's there's value to that. Additionally, if you know, depending on what this court decides to do as far as, you know, spacing over there, if one of those decisions was to move juvenile probation back to that building, there would be the opportunity to utilize that court room for juvenile court, without those youth having to be moved around and shuttled around between juvenile probation and the court building itself. And then lastly, I think it gives a more court appearance to CPS and AG, which would also have the ability to utilize that particular courtroom. And some of those cases can be quite contentious. And we have, yeah, obviously we do. We have the ability to tell CPS and AG that they, you're moving over there. And the security is a little bit better. Yeah, you know, and again, it does, you know, when I think we've done the, you know, the best we could do, given the circumstances, when individuals walk in here, looks kind of like a... This building has to go on lockdown. I mean, all the doors and the refrigerator and the food and all of that has to be locked down. There are things we go through to be able to facilitate that. And anyway, from the judges standpoint, I've talked with all three of them, and they would support maintaining that particular courtroom in that configuration. But again, there's sequencing that goes into all of this. I think we need to look at it from a pretty holistic approach, as opposed to putting our blinders on and going, hey, we'll address this one, we'll address this one, we'll address this one, because there's sequencing that needs to go with how we're gonna move forward with all of that. If the workshop would be two months. The list of the court. Best people list may present to the court for the truth and the sound of the third- property. If it's a means, you can approach it as big as the code, from the way, if it's neat, strong and wide, it just needs to be strong and wide. It's got value, then it has to be listed for sale for two weeks, four or three days. I think it's a pattern in time. It might be a little, it might have run in a paper two times. I can't look in it, but it's not a long process. 30 days. I think don't we still have a standing agreement with purple wave? Is that? Yes, sir. Is that why I think we'll have several of us in here. We may have $128,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 I told you they would come and get down there. We didn't get up, I dropped. And I got from going from here to the top. They They left them nice green chairs. Yes, they did. That, of course, by the way, I'm sorry. So the process would be to yes, document it all, an order. Well, document it all, I guess, contact, our elected official department head, see if there's anything that they need out of that glorious pile. And then once that has been vetted, then we contact Purple Wave, get them to come in and post it. And it is my understanding if there's no. No bids, no nothing comes in at that point. It can all be considered salvage because we've gone through the process of identifying it as surplus and giving the public the opportunity to purchase it. And then it's. If all the stuff we want to get rid of. If nobody bid, no, I actually am taking it to the track joint. It, it, it, it, am I understanding that correctly, Mr. Beld, that once we have gone through the process and if we have not received the bids, we are, do have the ability to. Yes, the suppose. and it's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer to go. It's a place for beer that no kids will receive, that that would be a good opportunity to build a firmly. And hindsight, that it didn't have any value and should have been further than the last control. But sometimes you don't know. Yeah. I advise everybody that asked me if it was broken. And he just tried to place it in the dumpster. Yeah. I mean, as the person was talking to the prosecutor, people, I guess those are the ones that they should have gotten to have come to give them that advice. But if it was broken, if it was a chair, and it was broken, it all ended up hard. So it ended up, please, it ended up. Yeah, back to your nut. Put it in the back. the same up on the pile of other clubs. Probably the sale. Because when they come get the good stuff, they're going to leave the broken chair open in the bunch. Exactly. Please throw it up. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, there's the question is. Is it probably spend more in advertising than we made on 148. What time inventory and serial numbers? I'm going to list. Man, I've already... I mean, hours, we have here right now the serial numbers, all numbers, all those computers and removing all the hard drives. Hopefully, more than four of them have that issue with computers, because we will have the replenished replace that will be taken away and the commission members cycled up there is the old gal was the computer graveyard. We can send that for a workshop. I believe that would be advisable. If you need to be an opportunity to look at my calendar, I'll send out some dates. I'm just kind of pulling the audience to figure out what's, you know, what works best for y'all in the next you know kind of a couple weeks. Got four 27. You're going to just set it for the afternoon of the 27. Okay. Okay. All right. We'll set that for the afternoon with 27. We'll set that for the afternoon of 27. Okay. Anything else the court wishes to discuss or consider under our item and rating. That's it. Okay. Moving on to item and routine is to consider the gates little chamber of commerce to use the property located 712 bridge and 307 South 7th Street for the shivery 2025 scheduled on June 7th. We'll look at it again to use that property. Chivalry. My question is about allowing you to. Second. Got a motion and a second to allow them to use those properties. I'd also had a member of the Chamber reach out requesting use of the new parking lot. That might happen. We're under kind of a short time crunch, but I think we need to have a general policy on the use and access of those electrical outlets and kind of how do we monitor that? And then what does that time period look like. So within the motion I would add that we had that parking lot, the availability of that parking lot to them as well. And Mr. Bell, I don't, I can't recall exactly. Was Is there a bond required or a waiver of liability years by similar to this year. I don't know what they're doing placing on those facilities on those properties, but when I look down they set up all the rides. So we don't know, you know, Gen. I think they're not completely in the ride. And do and probably drive. And I mean, that's a benefit to the relatively expensive. Us share a shared break many years ago, I had a community issue for home drug spano. There was a little less than an additional mature, I think, and then I mean, yeah, that comes with a. Yeah, that was a judge's point. They're gonna be consuming electricity. So we probably need to go over the policy of a nominal fee for that type of hookup. Although I talked to quite a few of the vendors, and most of them run generators anyway. Maybe that's not like it with nominal voltages. Thank you, Sam. You're right, Steven. Our electric field. I don't expect that we can focus. I don't think we can. I mean, I mentioned that you're something. I'm kind of an owner. But I wouldn't use it. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't of time. No. I have not seen individual meters on those. So they run off the same meter and so they run the building? I believe so. They are not the right meter over there. Yeah, but they are not it's okay. So then that Those lots are not even do we have them? I don't know what our bill looks like. I'm sorry If we have a regular leg for certain psych and house, you know, you have minimal I wouldn't think that we would be preventable probably not street life those spots, but I don't know what our bill looks like Don't we have a cycle really get her Maybe. Yeah, I mean, we fight. I mean, what have you been doing for the first time you did? Yeah, that's why I say I'd agree with it. We do sell goods big different. Yeah, we do. I think yo, I'm showing the two plots over there. We've been five. Five? Yeah. I'm not sure. I haven't, I haven't looked at all of them. There's about, you know, five or six pedestals that are over there. I mean, And there's, and those are 30 and 50 amp. So, I mean, you're talking about it. You're going to be all 50 amp here. I think that's perfect idea. with a simple policy that says if you connect already I'm gonna be off 50 amp here. I think that's perfect idea. Just come up with a simple policy that says, if you connect already, you can connect connection fee of whatever. And trust me, and then there's their choice. They wanna use your generator, or use it if they wanna pay a $30, $50 connection fee, then they plug into our power, and they don't have to worry about falling gas, using our gas. Most of them got them more indirect and generating by the... ...got to get broke. It's like that being simply big, just like the only electrician, 30 bucks. You know, you don't play that 30 bucks. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start with the first one. I'm going to start parking lot is part of that. And this is continued upon the Chamber of Commerce having an event policy listing, Creole County as additional insured. Additional insured. All right. Okay. Any other discussion under I don't know. 19. Hearing none all those flavors. I all those posts. They know I just have it motion carries. Item number 20 is discussion and action on ETJ agreement with city of Copers code. Yeah, the last time that I've been in the head of the discussion and hear about sending the back of the code and putting us in the lead on that and I thought I was going to find with it, but it's kind of that on the by and I had seen the thing, but most recently we had a reflash, mentioned in college here, we know a bit more about it, but often more very, I mean, this meant it to have done it. Well, I'll let you go ahead. Yeah, I'll go down there and the boys went to the sergeant concerned and I think it pretty much fell on that year. I have seen because I didn't want to have to improve the day. Well, back on, so that is that they needed to show where the system's word and relation to the new property lines. And they just print it off the septic perm hints. So, a huge list. population to the new property lines and they just print off the septic perm hints. So in futures I mean who knows if the septic system is on on the property or not but they just they just prove that they didn't have one lot that they mass-exploit a row of furniture and don't have any for our rules on it. I just got an improvement by the career there. And it just, if we had control, divided wasn't wasted a bunch of money because my first company on the board of government they would have had 60 footpaths, but you know, a broker and an engine for each property. They wouldn't have been able to obtain it because that house front house is not even sixty-third of all property. about that, you know, a rope or a bench for each problem. And they wouldn't have been able to obtain it because that house front house is not even 64-foot-of-all property line. So. That gives me question. I mean, Cal, Lee, I thought, yeah, I'm with Richard Matthews. I thought it was, we had passed it out to the back to him and have her off the river. It was, yes, plus one that responded to any thing only. The agreement that was brought before the court was the coppers co-version of that agreement. And I'm going off of memory here is best I recall. And the court did not adopt that, but wanted to adopt, I believe, the original agreement that had been penned by Mr. Belt. But that document was never brought back to the court to say, yes, we vote on this document. That's the best I can recall from what has transpired. I think our discussion here with Copper Co. V here, they were in the audience and said we're fine with putting forio canyas the lead on the ETJ area just change and swap the name on that agreement and send it back to us. That's what I just do. So June 13th before the time for fabulous cinnamon bill to a bunch of people with the agreement that the city of Car of California has approved with the county of Lancashire, which was roughly a very time agreement. We wanted the City of California to go to judge, send an email back to Bobulous So to say, thank you, Bobby, he was on June 14th. And then there was an agenda for a kind of commissioner's Board of Agenda for July 9th. The discussion was held regarding the ETJ agreement and a copy of the Lampassas County Agreement was in the packet on that day. The minutes from July 5th, so I need... I'm 17. Discussion was held regarding the ETA. I'm going to see him about first. That's the last. The answer that I can find. And I don't see where anybody has been said about it since then. I don't have any emails. Give my little folder. I keep my emails in about cobscub.com. That's a question of older human beings. Since then we had it. I'm gonna 20, 20, so it sounds like we need to Yeah, and they were ready to approve the same version of the bail one fastest and pretty sure Based on my recollection of what Mr. Manick said about Something along the lines, but this is just exactly what we've been trying to get to improve for our future. I don't know what word Mr. Manick's about. I guess I'm talking a little more colorful than that, but I'm actually not going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready. I'm going to be ready to the document here, the Land Pass of Scania Agreement. The Land Pass of Scania Agreement is an exclusive jurisdiction. They've all sub-election flights and further all read permits in purpose GoBTTJ located in the Land Pass of Scania. So it isn't action item so we can do one word. Now would you prefer that you edit that and change where it says land passes county to Coral County and then submit that offer to go? I mean instead of saying hey saying, hey, we want them to draft it up, that says we wanted to look just like Lennon classes. So, I can't do that. Oh, yeah, have it ready. You know, like table this item until 2022 and 23. Pretty much got it ready, but I'll have it clean and printed. I'm not a real, I'm a certain of the whole here. It's something that you would like. I'm not to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I'm going to go ahead and move on. I don't know between. Hearing none, all those blip say aye. All those posts are no. I say I have it motion carries. I remember 21 discuss RFP for Corial County Healthcare. Who did you ask for this to be on here's layout? Because we didn't need to move forward when getting it out, not to the bruh, we're in my mind, but give it out to those. If we tag other people that we've been taking with Miss, the Torlan's in out. A RAP and I'm looking for the day. It's more to the, yeah, March 7th. Except right. Um, to fully ensure level funding and or partial that funding medical benefits. And I think that we have time to do that, you know, shoot it out to those people, or shoot it out, you know, and those those insurance companies that don't require going through a brokerage the next. you go back to the part of evaluating the responses. Just under the discussion about the RFP to, you know, being able to evaluate those responses. And yeah, request for. Yeah, I can't wait. In my world, it was always an RFQ request for quote that yeah, this is a request basically. So the. It's some problem. I have a discussion about what the provisions in that are if you're going to be as. My true mission of the health care attorney. And so one that we haven't tried out that Mr. Kuala got you know, Kevin, he's from his visit about it. A couple of months now, we've agreed that it's too much. It's got options that we're not going to consider nothing that we need to ask for, because it's nothing we can do. That we're interested in doing and something we can't do. So our meeting would be to sort it down a lot, but a lot of the things out of there that we do not, we're not considered closely. It should have something in simplified. But, we need some direction on some of those things. Because I don't know what all of you, y'all are willing to consider. I know what options I don't want to consider, but I don't want to get to both. I don't want to get to the question here. This bloominous, the one that built that up and it pulled up all the way up close to that, I'll place it all in. It's got some stuff to I remember about partially bonded and fully bundled stuff. You know, I don't think that we can go there like, you know, for the plant to stay with. You know, leave these half-growth systems that were currently all ready. I think in terms of conditions aside, you know. Then you have time next to a quarter grades on May 27th. Also have a workshop on Mrs. Williams. She then just put too much of them. I'm talking to her. I'm talking to you. If I was thinking to have all of it figured out, right? Yeah, not a lot. No, actually, the day before the budget is brewed, which is the deadline. Maybe, I don't know, overcomplicating. I think it's almost like the RFP could literally just read, here is the current levels that we are. Give one like our as close as and then we will consider other options because we remember that's exactly what BSW did last time, right? they gave us like four different levels of options, of what they see, you know, out there. For example. I can't remember the name of if there's another entity that I know that's my father's been in contact with that's kind of an up and coming. That's my family. No, I think it's a certain sort of what you said. Well, I was. I talked to him. Yeah. I took everything to her, but I can't even do that. Um, I started. Yeah. There's a band-aid brain in the thing. It's insurance. I don't know. That's a good thing to go recurring health to one. Yep, assurance of like that. Right. So they would be new, but if one we've engaged with before, of course, you know, tax, they, they're always pitch in there. Remember the, you Yeah, they search. So they're selling broker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was that one guy was saying that he hates what the insurance companies, you know, he fights what they want them to do. Yeah. So you got an attack, which we're currently better, it's gotten white and then I know this assurance that they've reached out and had several. Beyond that, I mean there's not. Gosh, you get blue crock blue shield and you unite at healthcare. That's half our battle is there's not that. I think there's tag. Blue solid. Could be something I mean, I did read what she sent to us and it's, you know, I do carry attachments and well exhibits. Mr. Bell, you said you'd like some directive. I mean, what else beyond saying that I agree with you. More simplified, but just basically. You know, giving them what our current levels are and then said, we will entertain other options that you guys would provide or other levels of plans. Every insurance company, from what I understand too, every insurance company has their sweet spots. Right? Where they like to be. It's them. What else would you need to, I guess, draft up a simple RFP? Well, probably the most more of it than the other thing. Oh, it's probably. Yeah, Zimbabwean being that had out? So, do you believe that I am as a person? I think that the services that they want to be included in being a the museum proposal. Mind. Are you gonna run for her? You're gonna have to do it anyway. Don't take care of the history. Don't take care of that. And... If it's probably... Probably. It's like that she is going to hold me in the middle of the car. It's like that she has got all the individual call. It's like here, fill this out. You know, it's got individual reduction and medical, air getting bedding, killer church, hospital, additional hospital, go pay out face surgery, diagnostic testing of the whole list, and it's got, you know, provide us a bid forward in that work and it's an out-of-that-work benefits. You know, for these services and it says complete for each plan made submitted. So it's like you're, like I'm better known what I call, you're in debt sheet, it's got your list of all the services and the costs and the coverage for each one of those services. And they've got them all listed, the ones that they're interested in, I guess. I don't know if that's something. Yeah, I mean, that's Bell County. How many employees and what's their budget? And we've got that list of things over and currently see right so I'm just going to use say what you see you said provide them what we have now so what do you what exactly do you mean by that? What do you think? Well what are level of of, but the employee pays? Well, really not even that. It's more of this, what's in network, what's out of network, what constitutes a tier one? We got to know what tier one, tier two, tier three. I mean, it's again, it's like, so do we still have multiple tiers? We're hoping they would have the tiers. No, No, no, and drugs, I believe they're still, oh, I know. Yeah, I mean, it's all pretty cookie cutter for them. They're gonna provide us and say, you know, the big decision, right? You know, that the court always has to make is how much do we fund? I don't think the services change much. I mean, Bill, they're going to provide emergency care. They're going to provide out of networks. Okay. I think that it's like one of the big differences in the policy of insurance is always co-insurance deductibles. So we don't see parameters on that. I mean, I guess I don't know. I'm asking for that. That's at the heart of why I thought we should do a broker. Now I'm not going back to that because I'll tell you I don't have the technical expertise to tell you that I can define co-pay versus co-insurance versus deductible. There is inward network and out of network is Coriel Health included as part of being in network as opposed to out of network. And then defining at what level, right now I don't I'm going to butcher it because I don't know I don't know whether it's copay or co insurance but we don't have that I mean you know I think you pay something to go to a doctor's visit but it's not like a 90-10 plan or a 80-20 plan and I can't tell you that I understand completely how all that plays out. Well, I'm under the insurance plan. So yeah, it's definitely a pretty typical of every insurance company. You walk in. They determine if okay. If you are going to have a procedure outside of that level, then a good facility will then have, you know, if they say, okay, you need to go get a tax game. A good facility will say, okay, somebody will be in contact with you and tell you how much it's going to cost you over and above your deductible. So really, the healthcare you did bring up a good point, I think, that any insurance company that we go with should include for ELL, because I think a lot of our employees have migrated to them not only for convenience, but I've also found them to be pretty darn competitive when you do have your out of pocket stuff. More so than if you went to their main facilities. So, that, you know, Mitch Bell, I think is that Corielle Health would have to be in their, in network, which under, you know, better it's gotten wider it's. What is the difference between, are we currently fully insured, level funded, program? Is there option for fully insured level funded program? Is there options for fully insured level funded at Handor partially self funded medical care? We are fully insured. We will fully insured level fund. Well, yeah. I don't know, cause I mean, I can't tell you what I know what that means because I mean, I can't tell you why I know what that means. I mean, I. Sorry. that. So, the partially self-funded, I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Yeah, I would think that that would mean me just about that you're setting a part aside of, you know, county funds to handle. Because I work for a company, it was, you know county funds the handle because I worked for a company it was you know we were 100% self-funded I mean the entire insurance you know was you know fun it was actually great sister because the but I like we can't go there I mean it was so good because the insurance are the hospitals pretty soon, you know, kind of didn't want to deal with us because we also had a legal team that when one of the go and get it and then you get all these, well, here's this building you speed. Here's all that, I mean, if you've had anything done, you look at all these yep here's the aspirin provider blah blah blah and we would send that to our legal group and then it would just go away. Instead of you know some you know most of the time what most average people do is they just ignore it they ignore it they ignore it they can't pay it. And then a collection agency comes after them. Then they're trying to settle on anything. We would just hand it off to be lab, which was outside, you know, injured. And we could still look into that because I think they're a separate agency that really keeps these insurance companies in check and the hospital's in check. Beautiful. I know I personally utilize it twice. You can see, well, I don't know what is this charge sent into them and they say, do not communicate, do not talk, do not have any conversations with them further, we will handle it. It was done. Anyway, I'm sorry. I mean, so there's there's other options like that. What this one says here in This is the public on the objectives paragraph. We see it down here in Hdn. It says the publishing include at least one option or options that matches this closely to current benefits as possible. Okay, perfect. Please note, the county's deducted close to out of pop, get maximum for a base on plan year, not calendar year. Alternative plan designs are also requested in addition to the plan designs or requests that other alternates will also be considered in or in and the first by the trust or because we must have trust as part of the partially funded deal. They says the county is not interested in increasing its insurance costs. I don't guess it was wrong. I don't know. For whatever the ad hoc submitted, she'll be at or below the current program calls. It could be the fits and costs do not be the needs of the county alternate plan advance may be requested. County will entertain all options, including a two or three year rate guarantee with the great caps for subsequent. There's your RFP. I'm at that. Beautiful. I don't think we're going to have to worry about that. So this, I think that's some of this means. If you're offering a bundle price option for more than one line of coverage, that must be detailed and outlined clearly in both medical and dental and paraphase. Okay, so they must have cut out something for them also. So we won't have that. Yeah, we typically have a phone. I'm not getting a separate snack. I found that. I think. Maybe I'll leave. I can find more. I think, you're nearly happy with what's that. I heard that you just read. It almost. Yeah, it feels it out exactly. If you look at all of these attachments, they affect the birds. I kind of think it's is electronic. I wasn't looking at the electronic version of the printed. I'm going to look at the list of all the templates. Yeah. And so it's just the reports that we begin with slot and live and then reports that we would really, we can't. It's things from, you know, I've ever showed that without getting away. You're so scared you never your the pertinent information so we could have to build that But I have not and so some of it would include like their EOB which we have that can be played with that How long would it take me to come up with that list of attachments and be very good? Attach them on our feet and shibble them at the work Well, we are in the middle of the payroll right now. I'm checking in. I think I'm going to do that, but we are working on that. Correct. So I would help see where she's at because I'm hinted of I'm sure she's at. I will say about the end of possibly today, but definitely about the end of the week. Oh, so I want to win. Yeah, no, she's I already had a start working on it just in case because I knew if we did this then that they would be hit. So then what she's having to do is go through each person and take out could be hit. So then what she's having to do is go through each person and take out all that information that, you know, we're not gonna really say people and build that before. Okay. So this time we'll take long. No, no. Okay. And she's already been working on it for weeks. So it may just need to be cleaned up and formatted. Okay. Get the data and get the paper on it. They may need to be cleaned up and formatted. If we don't have any answers to the payroll, I just don't think there is any. They did not go to insurance, they went with. Sure, sure. I trust that we have not given any information if people are not so cute. I'm just showing interest at their product. Now, I can get a cure ad. This is the one that sounds like a bandaid. Sorry about that all. In in network and stuff like that. I didn't have one when I was there. Who else got mine? That's got my insurance. But my father and she go with the end up that she wants to eat with. Along this, it's somebody who accepts her speech. I don't know how to network stuff. I really had a meeting with a HR participant in the Milgani, somebody in the HR department, and she asked questions as an employer and as an employee, and she braided about it. So, I'm going to ask those who adopted a next day, a FedEx is delivered in a federation of the Senate, but she didn't even have to go to the meeting. next day, the genetics is delivered in a measurement set. You're in China, you do not throw in the radio. No, you have to throw in the pharmaceutical seeder, but the film. Thanks. And I have a lot of specters, because I do have some lady self-kind of said that for real health is covered under it, and she being a physician of the third child. They've not given any employee a credit card and you get a balance on that card and you use that throughout the year and you go to that card and so they look at that. That's part of that trust. They have employed it as a trust. They've got like a keep yours in the number of it per se. A lot of work has gotten a lot of thinking a few years ago. If that's all right. So, I've got a lot of good advantage all that study. We're not going to have a thought of this, so, okay. All right, so we get an RFP out on the 27 meeting, are approved for an RFP and be the main, would we typically give them 130 days? This one would have been out, let's see what they would, see if that's it. This one went out. I don't know what it would Canadian now but it wasn't very long time period. I guess what I was kind of see. So if we, and we've got an RFP on the 27, we got it out. And I would see that kind of July 8 would be a, you know, maybe have everything back and really start the serious, you know, conversation evaluation. We'd be way feeling of your own. I'm going to put in the numbers. I'm going to put in the numbers. I'm going to put in the numbers. I'm going to put in the numbers. I'm going to put in the numbers. I'm going to put that. We'll sing that. We'll sing that. We'll sing that. We'll sing that. So. We'll sing that. We'll sing that. We'll sing that. We don't want to. I assume that this would probably come out in question. The rest of them are measured. And he had their returning this genomes to another Z assistant auditor. auditorium, and a project for chairman. He went back to the room. Wonderful. Bye. He was close. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not the center for everybody, but there are no confusions in the devil. The government's reform is severed by the filth. We're not sitting there for everybody. There are no computers in the building. The government's not far from the assembly. There's no place to go. The parliament is not in the parliament. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. There's no place to go. So I'm very, very proud for students who are here. Come on, come on, come on, come on. That's a challenge. I'll be on that operating. Well, I'm for 27. Thanks a lot. So, I'm sorry, but there will be reports that we need to get some guidelines. It was. Can I go ahead go ahead and we'll be blessed up from them. Because we'll have to have the, the credit of the packet. Yeah, so that's probably some of the attachments to gold here. So I'm curious about how long that'll take. Okay, sure. You know, So one of your dreams will be, we'll be going today for tomorrow. But But we will get what you thought last year. So we're first, but we need. Yeah, they're not very quick. That make it a combination of all that. Yeah, so all that additional information there is listed here. Those. Right. Is for you benefits and programs all that stuff. I don't have any that stuff. We can get that as much as we can. What we have when we don't. And we'll just don't want to go get hung up this exhibit last week. We'll do that, but it looks like there's a thing about it. One, two, three. Think about it. Three years prior. The information looks like. I think when we did it with half of the body, but that was done. It's not provided with that. Well, they did five years worth of climate data. That's right. That's how the data is. Five years worth of funds data three years more plan benefits. Okay. We have we have that. But we can get it all. We'll get a component of the group for every means that we got so for this. You understand all that to me and all of that. to help put in attachments and they're out horse bonnet with a little table of contents that you feel this, that they are a B-dot, you know, I'll send out everybody. Okay. There for me, you've got to like, we'll do like you. Okay. 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The only way I've reached out, well, I talked with the brother's department which obviously needed the next system and one of the largest, well probably the largest department that used the service system and a lot of their time keeping, the record keeping is actually some of these grants or needed for some of these grants and I know we made a motion not say that in boys but as that's reached out to grandma I think it's has pronounced but anyways gentlemen that over are calmed and an angel of wood time clock blood and he's saying that he can fix a lot of these problems or his team can fix a lot of these problems that were having, you know, in a crew time, to do all those. He just needs to meet with department heads or elected officials over a department and we can set it up using the same program, same setting that we currently have, but it just makes it fit for their department when you talk about that level of settings and how to ask. So they're saying that they're even change it for your, you know, kind of your East department has a little bit different. Right. You know, schedules, things like that. I mean, yeah. Last time we went and changed both settings, it would affect the whole counting because what we didn't know, really what we're doing in any case, never seen anything. But it was doable. And we just, you know, speaking of the rainy, we just ended up not doing it because it was actually a very bad. We're still tied to that until June, I believe it is. Now agreement. So if there's no adjacent, he has to, if I could just get up to a meeting with those department heads. These are like departments or those departments individually to set up with his team and make it work through this. I mean, I know that the students often use it. Mr. Clark uses it, but to the others office uses it, Mr. Layton's office uses it, and no extensions on it, and no that the maintenance departments on it. So I mean, I just think we either try to work with the system or just do away with it and find another solution of timekeeping because again, we need it for, you know, we have to have active records, federally obviously, the Liberals, but we also need it for these great success. That's right. I'll do that when we didn't play that video. Well, we still didn't play that video. But I figured that was a really interesting thing. I said, well, I'll let you into that. But we're still locked into a dream. And I think Bill is 5,000. And if they can fix our problems, and if they can even figure out how to streamline, maybe not even just pay from it, but at least a streamlined the payroll process from it. And then, I know, Mr. Matthew said that the software that he's gonna implement, you know, said they don't integrate with Time Talk Plus, but I don't know if we've ever asked Time Talk Plus and they integrate with it. You know, because they might go, oh yeah, yeah, we can do it. Because I think these guys say they're developing their own time system. So why would they want you to get put on anybody else? I mean, time clock plus might be able to go. That's easy. We can. And how do you step around the graph're able to graph a computer program that took information of the Coopers code, PDS system, which is drafted by a totally different company than the DAW. And pulled their information from their cases over into REDAW system seamlessly. It's a computer program that was drafted by Peter Nader's. And it works fine. And it doesn't integrate directly with that program. This program is gotta go through this other computer program that matches up the fields and pulls it over. It costs like $5,000. Have it drafted and it works wonderfully. It saves hotel and how much time and energy. And no human errors from this type of people's names, the information, sorry. Just because they don't interstate it directly, that means they can't be. Yeah. I feel your old writing code now. Yeah. I'm busy with Lime Stone County, and because I know with nothing people, there are one, two, and the red department, a couple of the sheriff's office, and everybody else there, it's all on time. And so they've learned them. Now they have, he says, if I believe that we can do it, we haven't made it. They've argued about that, but they've had a fair amount of sleep. Hardware, right? Right. They haven't, I'm not going to do anything. That's the one that we got fired at, when we were at the British because we didn't know about what something I'm going to. And so I haven't prepared about that by just yet, because we see what you're talking about today. See what I need. I heard about that. Well, if we can't get to the point where we're paying off of time clock press, we're paying for software program that really didn't do anything. Well, you talked differently to like red. They would still, they still have to submit time sheets to the payroll. Yes have to do that. So what they do is they take information on time plus and are able just to briefly massage it versus, you know, guys, the problem is you take it apart from our size. Can you tell me who there is today or not? I couldn't tell you that. Yeah. That we're looking at something like that. So we go back to where the system used to be to where we just do an spreadsheet and run something in there. What if labor laws don't block that? They're gonna come in there because I already did a photo audit on us and go, this ain't really much more visible. And my first start out there was 20 magnancies. So there's 20 or so, it's 12 people. I literally go out every day and count the pickups in the party line, make sure I blame for Sarah. Because our policies and procedures and the KENBER is, if you don't report it, you still get paid. You don't show up. You still get a chance. So they don't fill out a piece of paper. It shows they are not there. They get a check without their bait getting with the doubt to you. So basically when I talk to the trigger, the only time that there was any change in pain is overtime, part time, and lost time. They don't pay off of anything really other than when they get a letter or a document that says this person or no other time. This person is part time or this person is basically off the books Because they don't have any time of proof. But if I know one of the other shortfalls of our just our current system, I have never ever have I worked in a place where I received a paycheck that did not give me my vacation time available. And the countdown of it. That's another thing that I think we have to and then the more philosophical question is, what level does the court have that makes it mandatory for every hourly employee, because we exempt employees do not have to clock in and out. Every hourly employee to clock in and out. Because I know one of the downfalls that we, the fault starts, at least I remember that that this previous point had, had with times like last time we had a few, there's a number, we're going to do it. Do we have the short of saying you don't do it, you don't get paid? That's what we have in Flint, though. But the but it's not connected to payroll. So then it goes back to, can you tell an elected official that runs down the rap trail? No, we run down rap trail. No, I bad payroll though. Nothing is a bad payroll, unless the mice is overtime, part time, or lost time. Parts no longer works there. That's really a bad... And future problems, we're talking about here, when you do a little bit of stuff, you're just taking a step back. Did, I think the position though, or at least my position, that I do believe the time clock whether it is with them as a vendor or whether it is outsourced through some other program. I think they can tie a time clock to whatever our payroll software is. How much money have we spent on the system to added? But I'm just trying to know it's a lot. I did, it's real. In a hardware software. So I've always used a hardware. You'll commissioner. I have no issues with them going in, you know, talking to department heads. But before anything is done, I'd like for them to come in and talk to us and tell us, you know, what their findings are, what their fixes are, what their solutions are, you know, whether we're going to continue to move forward with them. Hi. I've said from even before I got on this course, I think these, all these problems are fixable and I don't think they're that expensive. And I think time clock plus probably is fine. I mean, it'll do it. So if we go past June, here is to keep the records, they're turning me in. the labor standards. You're supposed to keep records from seven years. Home time companies. Is that East department? Is that counting? Is that? I mean, if we put that to the record, it's going to go away. You know, have access to them no more. Is anybody in there with questions? I've answered that. Yeah. I mean, because we used to keep the folder, we still have a folder of, luckily, we've print everything out. We got a little favor sign. I should give that a flop. I know. I'm in here. I just want to repeat by the first thought of me these things through on that. I just say we're doing away. Well, you were a commissioner when all this went down. I mean, I was thinking I'd get more feedback once time clock is to reach the park. Right. And then, you know, and then come back here and they need to come and tell us what their thing was. back what time clock is to eat the part. Right. And then, you know, and then come back here and they need to come and tell us what their pain is. I was told it was not time clock. It's not being managed on the count inside. Well, as a department head cannot go set the parameters in there for mind and form. But that's what he is saying you can do. If he meets with you, he's seen me, they can send it up for his. Yes, but the barriers that they is our policies and procedures have not set it up right. It's just been like that since the start. I mean, that's a lot of sure that we've got to send me. We'll pay off of it, which that's a whole another problem. You know, I mean, you all got to overcome months with paying to be paying it in advance or not be paying it in advance. Right. That's a... Not a month. What are we about? Big days. If you want to keep before you're doing the whole, do you go overcome the seven or eight days? I don't good week. You want to just be even scarier. Boy that is an half page. Okay, let's. I'm okay with them going and talking to the departments as long as they don't make any decisions as far as changes. They're the cost. Right. They would cost any money. They'll go visit with the major departments, see if we can, they can solve all our problems. Come back to us and we can fix all of this for you. See how much? $5,000. Okay. I guess it needs to become partly in last part. Partly to some departments that are very similar. Most of the departments are going to have the same bubbles. Right. And then ours are a little different. And the carousel department is then a whole different volume. So really, yeah, really from Ridge, Sheriff's Office, the rest of office basically office workers Pretty simple. What do we do if we pass that year's second day? I think we can according to them they can move on this queen and I'm not worried about them. Well Even if this court sees fit to reverse we have have one more court. Yeah. Between Mount Deer and Sey. Yes. So worth a scenario, right? I think that what the last court we made a decision not to move forward with them. And we have to just reverse our decision to stick with them until we can figure this out. Once we make that decision, granted all your problems might not be fixed, but at least you're back to where you were. You know how to present time appropriately. And then we start the fixes. And they might be able to fix them all in that short period of time, but even if they don't at least we have a system to He puts out of major trouble. Did you have a chance to be a really He was I call he was okay I mean, I mean in the issue with the time clock, but just what we're saying, it's one, it's just one time clock with all these departments in it. And you can't, so it has three steps to get the employee puts their information in and and abuse that and it proves it. And the department head goes in and approves that, you know, or fixes it or whatever it would be. And then the county has something. Well, I mean, the last time I checked county has anything in a couple three years. 2019, last time with Antarctica. And that's not the bulk of anyone in particular. It's that it's one it's just one thing. It's one time clock. So until everything is done, every employee has finished their month or week or whatever. And their supervisor has confirmed their week in the county. Because if even one person has it, it can't be closed down. So if there were, if there were separate entities, one time for each department that was separate fully on its own, it would work another for me. Yes. So I can finish it and it would be completed and we would know. So tax office gets paid. I can pick on any department. We'll send a company, their view is that we have one policy for the whole that or one schedule or essentially, or we're under one roof, remain factoring facility or and what happened? It just makes you leave real taking local settings in each department head or like the official needs their own authority over each just there are employees. It's much easier to see the accumulation of time and time that's been used once the month is closed because it's sitting there in a kind of a, I don't know, and on a finished state. So you have to the neglect to get the report beneath, but it'll sit there to start backlogging and then it'll slow down and you can't have maneuver through the system because all this, and it's so far, but then it's, and so I assume, but currently, that the department heads, I'll call the managers. Let's go ahead and the department heads. And let me back up. You've got five of us here that have never used that system. I've never even seen what it looks like. So I don't even have a clue. And you just explained to me, you know, part of the process. I mean, it's almost exactly what I had to do with my previous one. Our system was, you have your handprint in, and they would do in and out. And then at the end of the paper, I had to review. And if I saw somebody didn't clock out for lunch, I had to go to them, say, all right. We have six seats. Yeah, we have six seats. And then, in some minute. And then vacation time, I don't even know. I'm sure each one of our departments is kind of cracking that for you. We have the vision currently in TimeBox Plus. Yeah, we're eventually. We said it. Give me a hand on our movement from, you know, year to year, the credit to get this interview. Particularly with the current every week and every two weeks. Yeah, and we're in some ways. And we can close out from January watch all on the house. Yeah, it's over. Watch the events. or something wrong. So on a physical year or not a physical year? Well, I think it shouldn't be thrown with that. In fact, sickly looking, I mean, our sickly doesn't have to be our zero and our average reason. Well, and that's what I said, some of the settings, we have to go and run it, and then they stop setting it, but I know we're talking about, but, but it's set up to, I mean, council, it keeps track of that. So now if it's not finalized, you have to get to it a different way. The easy way is you go into the employee and any moments, you can come up sick. sick family abuse and how much the patient's family needs them, much occasionally these or it's extremely palp-tile. If everything was being, you know what I'm saying, it was completed every week for Montferno, I'm ordered to do it, it'd be easier, because it just keeps a lot, it keeps a running talent. It's very, very, very, very easy. That's sorry. Let's walk my way. So we were just going to buy like, a promise to somebody else in the back. I wanted to be recognized. Are you raising your hand to take something? I want to do. So. One plus has a dollar explain it exactly right. When we've loaded on board through the monitors, often, the previous offer, the individual letters on one unit that we've had to set it up did not have a lot of direction in doing the set up. So there are a lot of binders in there that were not set where they probably shouldn't have been. Yes, it has the ability to do it. It's exactly what you guys are describing, breaking it into individual pods of your will for each department to control their own information. It is not currently that way. It can be that way. There's a lot of claim that needs to be done. It can crack record code, so you can do everything you guys need it to do. Speaking of paid promise, you can integrate it, even when you're using to. The question really is going to be when you guys, like these folks that are using this system, it is getting it to where you really need to do a start pressure or clean fresh. We need to decide the user's one board because there will be information that needs to remain in the weekend, but you can clean enough of your goals to clean up the stuff that's been affected or embracing or living on. When it is set up appropriately, you won't have any information. It's very good, says the multiple counties use it. We just never properly use it. That's a fact. Yeah, that's fact. And the problem problem is, no, you get that you make a decision to do that. No one's doing it. Here we are. That's why I think it needs to be. I mean, my time talk to the system, well, will, will it'll be solely on its own? You know, together, but, but on its own leg, and then, and as far as being, we always, they roll, change. They roll is automatic, or those employees that are salary, they get extra dollars every three weeks. Only if we can tell the, uh, they're all like that, you know, they need to be deducted for whatever reason, like, you know, leave without pay or write. There are no tax time clock is basically to keep track of that they're actually coming and then keep track of their vacation and six times, the time if they have any, which is what we're doing. We're going to do anything, whether we have that or producing speech and family, you know, we're going to attract them. So you're setting up your plan on meeting with these folks. Yeah, I mean, I have this guy. That's perfect. I'm asking you. Yeah. And I don't think that's specific. We wanted to apartment, so it's interesting. in character partners are moving here. New Onsus and as you can. I would hate to be a vendor that got kicked out because of powerful. I mean they really have done anything wrong we just never have to be doing things right. In your point there were no lead and they got dropped it that switched from the auditors department to the traitors department person said it up it's not here anymore I mean just completely ignored by the count not necessarily ignored by We ignored by the count. We're going to get them to come down and meet. That's going to be much. Yep. And then come talk to us and maybe explain a little bit to us. But again, I mean, none of us have ever even seen screened on any of these things. Like, imagine your spoke. You've got to approve some of them. If none of us have, or if we always agree with you, if Judge you, you probably can let your way with it. I've never seen. Please, however, we'll do the same thing. I you. Well, there's no objections. I'll write back out to R&M and make sure everybody gets to communicate. That apartment and bath. Whatever we need to do. and, no. That I will do. As long as he knows he's not to move forward with any of the actionable items until he comes in business with us. I just have a fear that we don't at least with it. I think our goals. I'm we're just going to ask. I can't. Yeah. And then I think our role is just to make sure somewhat consistent. You know, if you don't, then then what do you think is a consistency? I like it that you guys would control your own departments. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. I'm going to make a way. So for the key part, leave and start. Yeah, we're going to be with the controller. We're about now. We started to currently even before us when we were bridging. In the last six weeks, I'll be sure that we don't have a link like in you know this. Well, it does that. And it keeps track of the lead and request. Yeah, that's just that one thing with our baby is. It's said around now. Saturday and been. Yeah, Saturday. I mean, it has the capability to. Yeah, right can't keep in the way so that we use it for the present least. People are just keep dragging all the conditions to see the military get ours to try and wrap the marines in the best form. We're going to fix you. You know, yeah, that would be a good good. Thank you. I don't know if we're going to hear you. Yeah, it would be a good thing. I don't know if we're here to say it. Hey, Ryan. Yeah. Party thing else on the time clock plus on discussion of time clock plus. Okay. Right. This time I'd like to go back and revisit item number 20 on the agenda, which was discussion action on ATJ agreement with the city of Coppers cove. I believe Mr. Belt has taken previous copy. I want to make sure that you've all had an opportunity to look over this. Well, one is the most important. So you're like item number one. It's literally we've got all the inspection numbers. Okay. So having an interlocal agreement to consider, is there any action at the court, which is to take under item number 20? That was. I don't know how to work that presented person. It We've got a motion to approve the interlocal agreement covering the ETJ with coppers cove as presented by Mr. Bell, motions by Commissioner Matthews and second from Commissioner Taylor. Okay, any Okay, any further discussion on item 120 Hearing none all those in favor say aye all those opposed to no I just have it motion carries I don't know 23 is pay bills and we've had mill bills presented in the amount of 1 million 238,788 dollars and 79 cents We got a motion to pay bills and a second from Commissioner Matthews and Commissioner Taylor any further discussion on item 23. Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. All those opposed to no. I just have it motion carries. Item number 24 reports, Commissioner Matthews. You're a very good cushy little. Well, we got it. I can't know, 24 reports, Commissioner Matthews. You can be a good commissioner, Wettel. Well, we've got, I can't believe it. Save it for me. We held our employee luncheon, and it was probably intended by 100 and. It was over 100, because I know we had 195 plates in one packet. So I think we served about 120 plates, sent all the extra food over to the jail, and somehow we've got to do something about the weather. After here, three years in a row, it's been... Even Ryan, while we were there. I know, the van, it got real ugly after we left. I guess you got out there hoping. Now, I've never complained about Ryan Ryan. No, I got it. Well, we did enough out of that though. That was made a lot of noise. And then just, I don't know if this was, I think, but if anybody's here, we need to start talking about a budget calendar. So we started the insurance process. Get that budget calendar going they're going and. Thank you Commissioner Mbasham. Yeah, I'm not sure. Commissioner Bobby, thank you for bringing a nice and have said. I really appreciate that very much. I'm very glad you're here. And let's go back for a two inch run. You can't put anything in there. To buy over by day. Christian Taylor. I have no. Very good. There were two items listed under closed media executive session. There's nothing that we need to talk about. That we haven't already discussed. for items 26 and 27. So with that, that concludes the business of the county. For today, we stand adjourned. Thank you.