I'm just going to ignore that and call to order our August 22nd, 2024 budget finance and taxation committee. Go, Noles. And we'll ask for a roll call, please. Gertis, here. Montenegro, here. Big Sanders, Hannah Whittes, here. Gamert. Okay. We have an agenda in front of us. I'll entertain a motion for approval. We'll approve all. All in favor. All right. Any opposed? Motion carries. We have minutes from the August 8th, 2024, meeting. I'll entertain a motion for approval. Move the approval. All in favor. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay. carries. Okay, moving on to the new business for today. We have the review of the BP Fund expenditure request that's presented to the HERS Committee on May 16, 2024. Excited for this conversation. We've got Claude Tancersley Public Works Administrator and Whitney Blair Sustainability and Resiliency Senior Operations Analyst. And excited to have this conversation about where we're going to put some money for resiliency. So, Claude, I'll turn it over to you. Thank you, Chair. I appreciate it. Claude Tancorsley, your Public Works Administrator. And as you mentioned, we have Whitney Blair here. And while you got her title is correct, she's actually the acting director. She's the inter-okay. All right. Acting director for the sustainability office of sustainability resilience. And so she's gonna be doing the bulk of the presentation. As you mentioned, Chair, we provided this information to the hers committee and received a very positive support from them. We're now bringing it to BFNT committee with the hope that you will recommend it to council for approval for the plan that we have. So with that I'll go ahead and turn it over to Whitney. Thank you, welcome Whitney. Thank you so much. Thank you for this opportunity to present today. We're excited to bring this to the BFT. As you mentioned on our agenda today we're going to be discussing the revised proposal for the second and final installment of the BP settlement funds. Okay, so the initial proposal was brought to the committee of the whole in August of 2023. The Office of Sustainability and Resilience incorporated the feedback of City Administration and City Council to create the largest environmental impact and directly correspond to why the city received this money. In May of this year, the Office of Sustainability and Resilience brought this proposal to hers and received the hers committee's unanimous approval. On the slide, you can see the initial and updated proposal. I should note that there have been some minor changes since May, such as adding $600 to the Sea Grass Mitigation Bank to cover the full amount that was allocated from the general fund and adding $567 to the balance to reflect the full amount of this installment. It's actually $1,063,500, $67.08 to be exact. I'd appreciate that. Yes. On the following slides, we will be looking at each of these proposed projects in more detail. So in May, one second, I apologize. In May, City Council approved funding for the mitigation banking instrument, project permits, informational marine signage, and once construction begins, oversight of the filling of the Dredge Hole. The sea grass that will be planted within the footprint of the dredge hole will benefit the local ecosystem in multiple ways. Sea grass habitat can improve water clarity, stabilize bottom sediments, provide shelter for fish, crustaceans, and shellfish, serve as a direct and indirect food source for local marine life and improve water clarity, water quality. There is a direct correlation between what the BP sediment funds were intended to achieve and this work. Administration recommended that council allocate these BP funds to replenish the general fund as this funding wasn't yet available when the Seagrass mitigation project was approved to move forward. As you saw on the proposal slide, the amount requested for the tree canopy analysis was greatly reduced. The Office of Sustainability and Resilience is now requesting that $35,000 be used towards the tree canopy analysis and mapping. We are in the process of hiring two part-time interns for additional support for a six-month period to expand on what the Urban Forestry team is able to complete in-house. This will also help ensure that the city is on track to achieve and possibly update the existing 30% tree canopy goal and account for tree loss from storm events or otherwise. The updated tree canopy analysis should be completed in spring of 2025. We are proposing that 150,000 of the BP settlement funds be used towards the creation of two new food forests and the support of six to ten existing community gardens. The food forest establishment timeline would be two years and a minimum of 25% of the produce would be required to be donated back to the community, for example, to a food pantry. The 6-10 existing community gardens would be able to use funding to embrace food forest principles such as expanding the garden to include the first three layers of a food forest forest that you can see outlined in blue on this slide. In addition, the ability to water plants tends to be one of the biggest challenges when caring for a community garden, so the funding could be used towards water infrastructure, such as irrigation or rain barrels. For the community gardens, funding would be provided via minigrant, attending educational events and maintenance volunteer hours would be a requirement to receive funding and the funding timeline for the gardens would be one year. This supports a few ISAP elements, but most notably 3.7 health and safety, having a community garden within one fourth mile of every citizen. We are requesting that $400,000 be used to replace, upgrade and add to existing EV infrastructure in priority areas or gap area citywide. Duke's Park and Plug program transferred ownership of 29 level two charging stations to the city. These stations are now at the end of their life cycle and as would be expected are having some issues. OSR and transportation hosted an environmental defense fund fellow over the summer who provided valuable information about where EV infrastructure is most needed. As you can see in her graphic, the majority of existing chargers are located in the downtown area, but they are less accessible in the north, south, and western parts of our city. The remaining $74,900 is being proposed as support for nonprofit organizations and community-based organizations that are already doing important and much needed environmental and resilience work. I looked up an example of how this was done in the first round of the BP settlement and I found that the city provided funding for sun and self and helped the nonprofits launch locally in 2018. We would like to use 10,000 from this pot of money to support the current Sun cohort. Thank you so much for having us. Please let me know if you have any questions. Committee members, Chair, Fick Sanders. Thank you. First of all, welcome. Good morning, everyone. You did a fantastic job. You did an're interested in the presentation, thank you. First of all, welcome. Good morning, everyone. You did a fantastic job. You did an awesome job in the presentation, and thank you for providing this information. I don't have a whole lot of questions, because I think some of them are going to be resolved as you move forward. And I appreciate the presentation and bringing this to this entity, and the specific specifications for the dollar amounts. The many grants that you spoke about for the expanded fool forest pilot. How is that going to be dispersed? How are you going to do that? Are you going to limit it to 5,000, 10,000? Is it going to be per request? How are those grants? What are the limitations to do that? Are you going to limit it to 5,000, 10,000? Is it going to be per request? How those grants, what are the limitations of those grants? So, one of the limitations for the grants is that the community garden needs to have a community garden permit with the city. Okay. So, they need to be active. We are able to fund up to 10 community gardens, but when we open the minigrant, if we get less applications, that money can be redistributed. So if we were to get 10 applications, my estimate is that we would be able to provide about eight or $9,000, which would help cover the cost of the water infrastructure and fruiting trees, but depending on how many we get, it could be a different number. Okay. You can have it. You got received an estimate of any interest to have you heard or talked to the gardens because I see you have listed because I know a few, but I see that you have six to ten existing community gardens. So those are registered with the city already, right? I would need to check how many are registered with the city, but there are, I made a map about a year or so ago that had a list of active community gardens in St.P. and inactive gardens. I have spoken about this proposal with Sue Act, the Sustainable Urban Agriculture Coalition. They were the ones that added the feedback that the money should be able to use for water infrastructure. There is a lot of interest in community gardens in being able to have access to this support. I do think that many of our existing gardens would probably register for the permit so that they would be able to apply for the money. Okay, okay, and the permit, of registering for the permit. Okay, okay. And the permit, uh, uh, registering for the permit cost wouldn't be included in the funds that they're seeking. So they'll have to do that prior to completing the grant, correct? Prior to completing the grant, it was reduced. I believe in 2021, the permit was reduced to $50 that first year when you are applying for the permit. And then it's $25 a year after that. So it was greatly reduced. Okay. In the same thing for the local non-profit community based organization support, is that gonna be at an application grant process as well? Because I know you have one recommendation for the Sun program. So that leaves what, 44,000? About 45,000? Could you say 35,000? It would leave $64,000. How much did you say for a sign? I'm sorry. The sun is $10,000. I'm sorry. I thought I heard 30. OK. OK. And so that's going to be the same application grant process where they can utilize the funds. We hadn't spoken about that being an application process. Each year we get requests to help fund our local organizations. And most of the time, we can say something like, oh, we can apply for a grant with you. We can be a pass through agency, but we don't necessarily have a pot of money ready to provide to organizations when we get this request. An example of that can be the sun cohort. We've been talking with them now for a few months about helping to support this cohort, but we didn't know how we were gonna fund it. So if we have this money available as we get requests, it would be something that we were able to pull through. Okay, okay, all right, thank you. That's what I have right now. Thank you, Chair. Council member Hanlon. Thank you, Chair. And thank you so much for the presentation. I have to agree with our chair and actually the committee, the hers committee, this is a fantastic job in terms of using the funds to ensure basically that it does have the largest environmental impact. I wanna touch a little bit, I'll start with the Seagrass mitigation bank. I know and maybe Tom may want to cover this. The money had come from the general fund and this is covering it, was it appropriate? Could you just tell me a little bit about that history for the $403,000? Yeah, and I might need some help from Ms. McCoffsky, but because we had a couple of different tranches of resources for the Seagrass mitigation back, going back to the first phase of the BP monies. Yeah. And so and I know that that has mostly been deployed and then we did incur some additional expenses for the C grass and yeah. So a couple months ago we had we needed to move along with the process and we appropriated the for the 400, 300, 600 from the general fund fund balance to keep the project moving. Right. And then if the use of the BP additional funding was approved by Council, then we would kind of use that. But the money. Instead, in that money, we'd go back to General Fund. And then go into the General Fund account, OK? Yeah, all these money is one of the General Funds. So it's just kind of swapping out where it technically all the money's in the general fund. So it's just not it would just free up more money in the fund. And general fund for use for anything. Got it. Okay. I just wanted to check to see how that was covered. Okay, but the money's there. So the BP, the digital BP funds are also in the general fund. So technically there's there. They're all there. And the C grass money was waiting to be used. It's just still there. I got it. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And then in terms of the, I guess a tree canopy analysis, that's $35,000. That was the original amount. Are you sure that that's going to continue to stay the same amount that's needed for that? Yes. going to continue to stay the same amount that's needed for that? Yes, we are. And we have our engineering director, Bridges Pramine here, who may be able to speak more to the details. But we're using, we're piggybacking on an existing process where we have a contractor going out there and picking up data throughout the rest of the right away. And so we've already allocated, we've already authorized that contractor to pick up this information. So I'm confident that that 35,000 is sufficient. It's sufficient. It's sufficient. And just to kind of go over again for everyone that's listening, what is this analysis going to do and when should we get these, it says spring of 2025. Is that going to go to hers, the information? And with the results? Certainly, we can bring it back to hers once we can see it for may. Yeah, it would be great if we hear about it because I know it's been going on for a while. Okay, and then this is gonna let us know where we are in terms of our tree canopy throughout the city. Correct. Okay, perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Now the food forest pilot, I know there are some questions regarding the registered community gardens and I had kind of a similar question. It says it's going to support 60-10 existing gardens and you probably have some lists that you gathered somewhere. Maybe if you can share that with us and even hers in terms of what I don't think they have permits now. Do they have permits or these are just in general gardens? These are currently existing community gardens within the city. I checked with the permit office. I want to say a year ago and at that time there was only one or two gardens that had gone through the process to get the community garden permit. So I have an existing list of gardens that I would be happy to share. Okay, that would be great and it makes sense because irrigation is the biggest issue and it would be interesting to see how the city is going to work with these gardens to make sure that whatever irrigation needs are necessary can be done in the most effective, cost effective way because I know it can be expensive. Yes. And then in terms of the EV structure, what is typically the useful life cycle of the structure? I know that it says that these stations are at the end of their useful life. Do we know? I do not have that answer, but I'd be happy to talk. I spoke with Greg Mitchell. He is the traffic engineering assistant and he offered to take me on like a ride along to visit the different EV charging stations. He was the one who let me know that they've been having issues where the charging station will say that it's on, but when they go to connect it, it's not actually providing any power. Some of the feedback that I'm hearing from Michael Kern and others is that the repairs for these EV stations would actually cost more than just replacing them at this point. Okay. Yeah, it would be interesting to find out, yeah, how much that $400,000 goes in terms of the EV infrastructure to the stations that are not useful and whether it's repair or replacement. We're also applying to a few grants. So some of this $400,000 might be used as match funds for additional grant funds. Okay, that's helpful. And then in terms of the local nonprofit community based organization support, did I hear you write 2018 is the last time we did this? No, I think that was the first time it helped to launch the organizations. There was an additional amount that was donated to Sun. I don't know that exact year, but I would be happy to get that information for you. And could you just for those who may be watching what does self and son is it how does it work? How do people participate in this I guess? OK, so I'll start with son solar united neighbors. They use a co-op model so they're able to open the co-op for a certain amount of months and try to get residents to sign up for the co-op. If they sign up for the co-op, they have an opportunity to learn more about the process, maybe get a better understanding of what it might cost them and what they might save. If they, at that point, they're not locked into anything. But if they do decide to move forward in the co-op, they have like a collective bargaining power. And I think they said that usually they get about a 25% discount for the individual residents for their installations. Okay, great. Self is a non-profit that provides loans to people who maybe wouldn't have had access to those loans, maybe credit score issues or otherwise. And they're able to use these loans to do property improvements, resilience improvements, purchase hot water, heaters, stuff like that that maybe they wouldn't of other wise have had the opportunity to do. Well, seems the solar rooftop is timely, given how expensive the energy bills are right now. So I really appreciate all the work that you all have done. So I'm very happy about this. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Committee Vice Chair Montner. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Whitney, for the presentation. The tree canopy issue, and I'm glad we're not spending $850,000 on the tree inventory. I think City Council was pretty clear when that was brought to us. We all want to just get trees in the ground, and especially shade trees. So, how do we have a sense of how much funding do we need to provide on a yearly basis to get to a 30% goal? Because that is the goal, correct? Please. So, we haven't calculated that yet because we're still not quite sure exactly where we are. We've used several desktop analysis techniques in the past and also looked at other sources of data that are coming from outside the city for our tree canopy estimates. And it hasn't been consistent. Some of the data might suggest we might be at 28, 29%. Other data suggests we might be already at 32%. So because of that, it's kind of hard to tell exactly where we might be. We're hoping this will help add another data point for us to figure out really exactly where we are. But what we are finding is that depending on the delivery method for the tree, the cost on a per tree basis can be quite variable. On the extremes, if all we do is provide a free tree to a citizen, just basically a tree give away, where the citizen can plant the tree on their own anywhere on their property, and it's a relatively small sapling that can cost $2 per tree, very inexpensive. The disadvantage of that approach is that we don't have really in control over knowing exactly where the tree goes. The tree is younger so it takes time to mature. The tree may not survive because as you know the establishment period is very important and it may not survive. There's a lot of those variables are outside of our control. But with that at that cost point we there's a lot of, those variables are outside of our control. But with that, at that cost point, we can get a lot of trees out into the community. On the other end, the other extreme, where we are purchasing the tree, we are planting the tree, we are planting exactly where it goes within the city right away, not on a personal property. And then we go through the establishment period of keeping the tree alive during a two to three-year period perhaps, then it can be as much as $1,000 per tree to deliver it in that method. So it's significantly more expensive. However, we have a better control of where it goes. We can make sure we avoid utilities, overhead power lines, underground utilities. We have a better chance of knowing that it's going to survive. The tree itself is planted in a more mature stage, rather than a small sapling, you know, seven to eight feet tall. So the success rate and our ability to know exactly where it's going to go is much higher going that route. So those are the two extremes. We're still trying to figure out the best mix of those approaches. During the past year, we've used both approaches. I believe to some success. But we're still trying to figure out what is the best approach for us to do moving forward so we can reach that canopy goal. Okay. Because I remember a meeting that we had not too long ago where we had a breakdown of city council districts with tree canopy. Yes, sir. And as you all know, it's been a priority for a lot of us to plant trees just because we lose part of our tree canopy every year. And not only do we want to replace what we lose, but we want to move forward and get to that 30% goal. Yes, sir. And especially on this committee, it's, you know, this is our budget committee. So we want to know what those costs are. And then when it comes to council priorities with the budget, a lot of us are advocates for putting funding in the budget to address our tree canopy here in the city. So thank you for that. Liz, I've got a question for you. It's kind of a big picture question. Kind of going back to the beginning, this 1 million, just over a million dollars that we're addressing here. I've got some, it's older information on BP funds and some of the funds that have been previously appropriated, but some of them are unspent. Is this the last of the funds? So it's separate from the original BP funds. So the original BP funds are all appropriated projects. There's two active projects that we're spending down on One is a tree canopy project. I think there's less than 50,000 left on that one and the energy efficiency project which Had about 600,000 left. It's getting ready to start some new projects there And then this was additional funding we got in December 2021 That's been in the general fund balance. It has not been appropriated so we don't have the authority to spend. So once we have a plan, we can appropriate it and then we'll be able to spend those months down. So there's two separate funds. Okay. That's good to know because this information I have shows the just under 700,000 for the energy efficiency projects. and see projects that's been, was appropriated a while back. And then that, what's taking so long to, for the phase two, three canopy project? I mean, why, why are those funds, why are we still carrying those? And I guess that's not a question for you, Liz. I think, I do not know that, I do not know. I do not know the answer. Well, there's a couple things that have happened earlier this year in Sardin and Rob, but we also put an additional $300,000 into our tree planning program. So it seems like we put resources out there, but the trees aren't getting in the ground. That's where I'd like to get enough to. resources out there, but the trees aren't getting in the ground. That's where I'd like to get an update. So if I may, looking at the efforts that our team has put in this fiscal year for fiscal year 24, we are looking at the funds that have been allocated for this year to put in a approximately a thousand trees. Most of those have actually been actually delivered and installed. We still have some trees that so for instance in Child's Park we have a big project that we're gonna be executing in September to plant almost 300 trees alone in that project. That's been taking a lot of planning efforts. But anyway, did back back to it, we close to a thousand trees based off of the funding for this year. And Bridges is providing me some data for some past efforts that looks like we've put in about 1200 trees under the Wiki Watchy funding in previous years another close to 500 trees from that that previous BP funding the citywide tree funding so that gives you kind of an idea of where we stand. One of the challenges that we're running into, which is completely understandable. So, but the challenges is that many folks are hesitant about having a tree put into their front yard or into the right way in front of the front yard for a variety of reasons. One of them is that they would like to have an opportunity to say what type of tree that they would like. We are trying to focus on trees, the right place, right tree approach, and sometimes that might not meet the desires of the homeowner because the kind of tree that they would want doesn't necessarily fall within the right tree, right place. There's also the concern about the amount of effort necessary to establish the tree, to keep it watered and to protect it. And some folks feel that that's not something they're ready to take on. And then finally, frankly, from some of the storms we've been having over the past year, we're starting to hear from citizens that they're worried about trees and how trees will perform during a storm. And we've had some citizens say that they're not sure they want to add more trees to the yard because they're afraid of what the tree might do during a storm. So that cultural sociological type of barriers that we're trying to overcome has slowed down our process but but we're working to overcome them. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. The child's park project is funded by a grant and we have to spend the funds down before the end of the year. So we're using those funds first before some of the other pots we have so that's kind of delayed spending those funds. Okay Okay, so that grant does require a city match, and so it'll be a half and half for that. Okay, all right, good. Just a couple more questions on the food forest pilot. It is, Whitney, are these capital costs that we're putting in or is there part of it that are going to be like operations and maintenance? So for the community gardens that would be capital cost. So we are not providing any additional, we would be contracting with possibly Sue act to provide some of the educational components for the garden managers, but more specifically for the food forest, that's going to be something that our office would run. And so that would, that would, some of those costs would be towards us managing those projects. OK. All right. Thank you. And then the EV infrastructure on the map that you have, can you just explain the DCFC and level 2? What does that mean? Sure. So the DC fast chargers, or the FCs, the fast chargers, they are able to charge the battery much faster than the level 2s. So I am not an EV owner myself yet. But from my understanding, like a level, there's also a level one charger. So where you're washing machine or your dryer is plugged in, if you were to plug your EV into that, that would be a level one. It might take the whole night for your EV to charge. The level two chargers, instead of it being a 12 hour period, maybe it's an, I'm throwing a number out there that I'm not entirely sure, but I'm going to say maybe it's four to five hours to completely charge. The DC fast chargers take a fraction of that amount of time. So they're much faster. It just happens that they're more expensive to install and maintain also. Okay. And just from a, like a policy point of view, how much of this infrastructure should government be doing? And how much should the private sector be doing? It's a hard question to answer. We have been preempted from we were working on an ordinance that would require that new construction included at least EV ready infrastructure because it's a lot less expensive if it's built into the cost than if it has to be retrofitted. We have been preempted at the state level from moving forward with that at least until October of this year. It's hard to say how much the city should be in charge of and how much should be managed by the private sector, but I think that it's important that we lead the way for access for our residents who maybe wouldn't have access to owning an EV if access to charges is an issue for them. It just gets into a policy issue. So you look at gasoline powered vehicles. Government isn't in that business. So why would we be spending government funds to subsidize this for electric vehicle owners? So, you know, we don't have to get too much into that, but I'm just throwing it out there, because I could see gasoline stations starting to transition at some point in time to be not just gasoline providers, but EV charging stations at the same time. So. That's where my thought is. I'll leave it right there. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. I just really have one question. Thank you for the presentation. Excited about this. And just appreciate administration and staff listening to counsel throughout this process, from cow to hers to now. And then appreciate All my colleagues feedback. I think I think this This was a this was a cool process and glad we got to where we're at my my question is around the mitigation bank and Excited to get this done and to open up some general fund dollars to be able to use these even more exciting As we're having a conversation about budget later. So my question really is, okay, so when we start this process, this might be for you. When we start this process, how are we protecting it? How far out are we protecting it? Like, can we walk through how we're making sure that... I mean, if you haven't seen qualified captain, we got some special boaters out there. And how are we making sure that we're protecting this investment? And frankly, our resiliency, because we know it's really important, it's certainly here. I mean, I know at the southern tip of this, we've got boats hanging out during concerts and things near there. How are we making sure that we're protecting this investment into our resiliency? It's a good question. As part of the funding that City Council approved back on, I believe, was May 16th, that funding is what will be utilizing and we've already contracted already within the process we've already received beds and we're in the process of executing the contracts for signage for voting zones to delineate that location as well. We're also working with trying to get a map on booting maps as well. And that specific boot signage we worked with Florida Fish and Wildlife and was approved by the Army Corps for the installations. So there will be regulatory signage as far as installation. Will it be roped? No, unfortunately we can't rope it off. Will there be bullies? I think those are good suggestions. I'll definitely follow up with Michael Dema, who's handing on what we can do and cannot do, and see what other options we can do. OK. Yeah, I mean, I'd prefer to have bullies. Bullies? I'd love your opinion on this, too, just because I know you do it. I'm not sure how much of an impact getting it on a GPS map is going to do because you need a new chip in order for that to be uploaded. GPS maps are not like, I mean they're just like your car, right? You don't get a new map unless you get a new chip. And so if we were to have it on a new map, it would be for new boat owners or for new GPSs installed or new chips. As a boat owner, I can tell you that only happens once every five, six years. I know Councillor Marumat and Erie owns a boat as well. And so he might be able to chime in. But my chip I just happened to just get my redone but it won't be redone for like the next five or six years so that wouldn't help me I don't know that we should be expending effort because on that because I'm not sure it's gonna do a whole lot I'd again I'd love your feedback on that council member Montenegri I'd much rather see booze in signage. We can't rope it off wide because we're worried about somebody catching it in their prop. Yeah, but I know we got a proof for a substantial amount of signage. We could increase frequency of signage as well. Yeah, I'd prefer to get away from the GPS. I'm not sure if Bang for Buck that's going to get us anything. I'd much rather have more signage and buoys. I don't want people going over this as this project is for it. I think it's really important. I think some of the other things I would suggest is making sure that PD and Sheriff are aware of this and put it on their regularly scheduled patrols in the waterways over there and then I think when parks and rec hosts events in that in North Shore Park that we need to have increased presence because people are gonna come from snile aisle and Riviera Bay and they're gonna bring their boats and normally you would run right over this. Yeah, got to get there. And so I just, it's such a great project. I don't want to be sitting here five years from now where we're looking at the same overhead map and we see lines going across it. Because frankly, that's what you see on overhead maps on the line. Yeah, you're right. Okay, and so I, Council Member Monterey, I'll open up to you if you have any comments. Are any committee members? We're talking about this. Just a very, it's a very good point. I do a lot of boating in this area because it goes, there's a channel just to the north of this area that goes right into Snell. And on this map, there is signage. There's pilings with signage proposed. And I know the channel going in a snow aisle, there's already channel markers out there because this area is, it's a big sandbore. Yeah, it's low line. Yeah, right. And so we can protect it just like we protect weed now. You can't go into weed nile with a motorized engine. And marine patrol and the police are out there a lot, and they'll ticket anybody that goes in there. So I can see having a signage there and just making marine patrol and the police aware. I think that would be adequate. Good. Thank you for your feedback. I bow on the other side of our city more often, so I wanted to get your perspective. And this could be approval of the signage and the guidance was done by the Coast Guard as well as Florida Fish and Wildlife. So it will be, you know, it's an enforcement area for them as well. But I definitely like the idea of regards to events. Yeah. Because I mean, that's when people are really going to start cruising in there. So I think every opportunity we can, because it's, this is the closest I've ever seen this project get to the point of execution. And I'm in concert wanton area, numerous conversations about this. It for all this work and effort is the first in this region. And especially of the size, it's gonna set the stage for a lot of things in the future. So yeah, we definitely want and we support as much as we can protect it we want to do. So how gladly follow up with you all for any ideas and see what we can follow up with on regulatory entities on the back end awesome. Thank you very much. That's that was really my only concern Well, if there's nothing else from Kenny, I'll entertain a motion to send it upstairs Yeah, Chair Frick Sanders I know you talked about some of the homeowners that didn't want specific trees because trust me the past week I've seen a lot of trees in my community that they're the great murals and so they don't really blast them too much. Those homeowners that do actually want the trees will we be able to reach out to them a second go around if we decide to get a different variety? Because we want the tree. If there's somebody that's a willing, is you have more so not than willing to give the tree. Will we be able to touch those homeowners and give the right? That's a good question. I had not considered that. So let me talk to the staff and figure out a way that we might be able to do that. I can tell you that Crate Myrtles is not. That's all I see. Not all the list. Yeah, we saw a bunch of it. And I was like, okay, but anyway, but if I would rather have a tree than for them not, given them something similar to what they're asking for, but I understand the cost of the inventory. I get that as well. Okay, thank you. So I was just going to ask about demolition, but since it's already out here, we're good. Fresh one more thing. You know, we will follow up just to kind of give you all the some insight as well. I will follow up with our local enforcement as best as we can. Earlier discussions, I was we were trying to do a complete motor exclusion zone for that area. But as part of the review process, we will overrule by the floor of the fish and wildlife. Okay. So it's right. We gotta do the best we can. We'll try on the internet side. Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, we have a motion on the floor to send this to move approval and send this upstairs. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Okay, just real quickly. Thank you everybody. Thank you for being here. Excited to vote on the substairs. Just real quickly, upcoming September 12 has U-T-B-D. I'm sorry, we're not going to cancel that one. We're going to do arts and public places. Update, it's Council Member Floyd's item on September 12th. September 26th, we're going to do the presentation for matrix consulting, for the evaluation report for St. Petersburg Fire Rescue Department, and then October 10th, we'll be discussing the series 24A, B, and C supplemental bond resolutions for the historic gas plant project. Okay, if there's nothing else for the good of the order, look at us, 43 minutes, pretty good. We'll adjourn the budget and finance taxation committee August 22nd. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair. .