All right. I will now call the stand-up on the capace from Toronto's Design Review Committee meeting of February 27th, 2025 to order. Design Review Committee Secretary, please call the roll. Committee member Jacob Hourcamp. Present. Committee member Stan Braden. Here. Committee member Sean Kelly. Here. Thank you. Now moving on to oral communications. Oral community indications is the time for the public to address the design review committee on matters not listed on the agenda. Person. Thank you. Now moving on to oral communications. Oral climbing indications is the time for the public to address the design review committee on matters not listed on the agenda. Persons wishing to address the design review committee on any items on the listed on not listed on the agenda may do so at this time. Please limit your remarks to three minutes. DRC secretary, are there any requested to speak forms to provide oral communication? I have none. Great. Now, moving on to the consent calendar. Items on the consent calendar are considered routine and may be enacted by one motion and vote. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item may be removed from the consent calendar and will be considered separately. We have one item on the consent calendar, which is the draft January 23rd, 2025 DRC minutes. Is there a motion to approve the consent calendar? I'll make a motion to approve. All second. All in favor? All in favor? Aye. The motion passes on a three to zero vote. Now moving on to information items. There are no information items. And now moving on to unfinished business. There are no unfinished items. Now moving on to new business. Secretary, please read the title of item F1. Item F1 is minor modification of architectural control 22-004. Mission place project, a review of design modifications to a previously approved commercial project consisting of two story buildings and a parking structure with 205 parking stall and a first floor retail component located at 31776 El Camino Real. All right. with Marellis? Mr. Excuse me. May we have a staff report, please? Good evening committee members and for the record my name is Isaac Marellis. I am a senior planning with the development services department. The project before you today is a minor modification to a previously approved commercial project called Mission Place. This project redevelopes the property currently occupied by the Camino Rial, playhouse and a public parking lot into a 30,000 square foot mixed use project consisting of two story buildings and a parking structure with the first floor retail component. The design review committee last reviewed this in 2021 and was approved by the City Council in 2022. The applicant is requesting the DRC to review the following key modifications to the project. Shifting the buildings, fronting old mission road, nine feet away from the street to accommodate an outdoor dining area, and enclosing the second floor breatheway connecting the east and west suites. Other small improvements include a heightened parapet wall, enhanced door fronts, redesigned stairways, and adjustments to the floor plan. Thank you, and the applicants here to answer any questions. Great. Do any committee members have any questions of staff? I do. I have a quick one just so I'm aware that this is just a recommendation to the development services director. This was last approved by the DRC in our project description December 9th, 2021. Did he go any into any other commissions after that? It did. It also went to the planning commission and ultimately to the City Council for our final approval. Okay. So this has been fully approved prior to us revisiting it because there's some changes that they're requesting. Correct. Okay, great. I do have it. Go. Our action today is exactly what? We're making a recommendation to the design, I don't know, design, here's the design committee to the development services director on if these revisions should be approved as a substantially consistent with the original approvals that were made back in 2022. That's all. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Based on that recommendation, they don't have to go back through the process of planning or call it again. Exactly. The only approval would be with the building permits. One other quick question for staff. It seems like there was a proposed change in the roadway has public works or anybody else weighed in on that and have are okay with that? Absolutely. I believe that the applicant can express a little bit more as because it's still an ongoing process, but because of some reconfigurations that will be losing some parking stalls and reconfiguring the sidewalk overall, they're still working out the details exactly where that property line is going to land as well as where the right of way will end up being God Does the applicant have a presentation? Or you're welcome to join us Yep come up here Hey, Jim I'm going to go ahead and get the staff. All right. Good. Yeah. Check. Check. All right. Good. Good. Yes. Yeah. Sure. Sure. A lot of this is predicated off. You know, working with tenants. Also, if there's always been issues with right away standpoint or property property. So the big move was basically setting this out. We're going to be using the sidewalk. We're going to be putting these cadios in really great. Pretty awesome. You know, the easy coming down would be, you know, pressing it. It is a big deal for a ten and a half. So how does this test span? That's kind of the big one we're doing Kind of boxes You know sets the building back and takes a look at the edge off. These are similar treatments that we did at River Street. How do you know? Posting beam trailers for the... Yeah. That was the big move. Some of the things in the back are really dictated by... We have one ten's taken the whole second level. So, it's trying to work to get a more, a better and then you know, you can feel the half of the, you know, the office there is coming to the space. It's all going to ask. That was open air before. Yeah. Because you were anticipating tenants on each side. Multiple tenants. Yeah, without any multiple tenants. Pretty awesome design for offices coming in. This is the last one. I'm writing the office on church. It seems to work for a little bit. It's just paid a lot of people. You know, I'm kind of right here with the senior area. But it's more, it just gets to get more of a sensible label. that. A couple overhead doors. There. Those have been there since. Oh, they have. I wasn't aware of that. I remember that. Both of these have been there. The previous. We didn't change many of the. The elevations on the ride. Most of the architecture. that architecture is going to stay the same is basically what we did. This sort of farm structure is basically everything that I've seen. But, speculation, I, administration, railing, other finishes, we're all saying. This stage structure out front. So what the stairs there. So really what drove this is originally in the renderings, and things change over as you find tenants the end cap the barn or whatever was Anticipated might be a food use there. There was a big dining area out there presented to the street corner kind of whichever When and right right right Still could be the case But what you found is you have obviously a bunch of people that want to come here and be food users instead of dress shops and boutiques and things like that. Yeah, we have retail and some fitness stuff here. But like you have a food and then setting it up and I do think it makes, I think it makes for a better, like, herb appeal for the project. I think people like activity. I agree. So when you come into town, you see activity. The big thing is, like, it creates more of a destination. That's everything you guys know. dies even when you get to see Like to pull people up here Can't just rely on like you know front of John Pass bloom That's all that stuff is going on. It's like the main key is, you know, you know, a commino cab, you know, like, you know, a two-go, especially in Allen, you know, people are going across the tracks. Like, this is turning into be a really cool lineup. You're going to activate that block. You're going to take the whole block and make it. Yes, it's people who meet the con up here. You've actually got people who want to do that many food uses. You guys can kill our guys. That's incredible. Impossible even here on the end. That one on the end if we can... Yeah. I think it's a great idea. I'm there every single morning. I walk by parking your parking lot and walk my daughter to school. And if that was out front, I'm surprised in a positive way that it wasn't in the original design. I mean, it's what we live for now. You know, families and walking around and doing the stuff, I think that this is a great improvement. Yeah, we changed. Kind of missed it, honestly. I want to ask you guys internally. You know, there's some costs, but it's the right move. We have a great coffee tenant, a coffee year, just a variety of uses. It's going to be great. Oh, missed the Starbucks. It was there. Now it's blue. It's blue better than that. Yeah. Yeah. Here, Cousin. No, I'm sorry. I'm too busy. Yeah. I get it. I can't have too much coffee. Then Cousin, they're using Dr. away. I see fine. It's because you're young. What would you say the curb offset distance is? There was some street parking here that was eight feet for parallel parking. Is it roughly you just took up that eight feet? Got it. I think it's a fair trade for taking up those six street spots to engage with the street more and offer that prime view of the of the church You're distracted eating or whatever The sky is getting on the driver's side. It's a nightmare. The street is going to be narrower. Which is actually a benefit for pedestrians. It really helped this corridor too. So is the corner being relocated slightly? Well, the distance is the same, but when you get to about the center of the radius. It goes out. So it's going to be a 9 foot less of a walk across the street, crosswalk. Which is good. Because their crosswalks that are long aren't really. At the same thing as the city. Yeah, that's the idea. Let's make the pedestrian experience better. To answer the question, it's the building hasn't. Maybe some slight less. Well you had some maybe parking behind the stair before something like that. Head in. We were getting those. Got to be chewed out by the transformer. The other thing is is kind of nice with this staircase now, is this is our left forum. It's one of the things I like, because I think that staircase actually breaks up and the back is open. It's right here. You know, it's always been, you know, we've had these architectural features, but it's in that thing with those staircase now. So you're losing the eight something spaces or something like that, but not choosing to extend the ramp of the parking structure or anything like that, because you're already over parked. is parking for the rest of the parking structure or anything like that because you're already over parked. Yeah, it's parked. It's parked quite honestly. Is parking for the rest of the community is not just for this site. Yeah, the structure has always been oversized and the antenna is providing for the downtown. So, I was thinking about how to solve it. So, it's always a big thing too is assignment, like taking a account that is the opposite of the office. I'm sorry. It's kind of cute to be part of the past. Sorry. I don't like it. It's just right. I hate it. It's just things for you. It's just like you're right. I'm happy I'm just so happy. Yeah, summer nights at the mission and all that. Exciting to see a big tenant take the second floor. Have you announced to that is yet? No. You're a great view of the parade. I don't know if that's okay. Really? Oh yeah. Or the tree lighting. Yeah. Every time they're there that late. Yeah. Yeah. The part that's a little different, but it's not a problem. It's, you know, part of the old town is having the buildings close to the curb line. In this case, if you're justifying it by the use, and the barrier becomes the planner box. Yeah, it was close to the street to engage with the street, but now the arcade is kind of in a way doing that. And the balconies. And the scale of buildings are a little bit different than the 1940, eight-foot ceilings. So being a little bit further back from the street, probably not a bad thing. Yeah, it's kind of like you look at a lot of things up on the street. Yeah. You know, I'm like the one who's doing better. Right. Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it? Downtown Nank to be, shouldn't it when I was in junior high and high school living in Anaheim and wanting to go to Nington Beach all the time. That was obviously. MBS of anybody. We move from the waiter park to the beach. But I just want to find the beach. Yeah. Very fortunate. The one in the park downing to beach sounds like one in the lottery. I'm not sure. Not very far from ten. The US opening sir. Well I'll make some comments if you don't mind it. I really just hopefully building on what you already have. And it's really related to the. I'm not sure where you are with the landscaping. Since you're getting that nine feet. The rendering shows some trees and they're kind of transparent like there are sickamores that have have their leaves. But I think you have an opportunity to only make the dying space even more important with what you're already doing, but to reinforce the line that's already starting to be created, you know, with hotel. Example would be iron author's room to anchor your entrance breezeway or anything to repeat any of the plant materials on the other side of the street and try to get that really dramatic edge that you know type of thing that has to fit in the ground with a great rather all planter boxes. And that way you get the canopy of something that's not messy. It could really be a good play with what's already going on here. If you could hit that, I think that's just going to make the architecture look better, because landscape, you know, and architecture work together. And I'm always looking at reinforcing the view of the street scene. If you hear me talk about adding Canary Island pines along Del Bispo for a minute now, and try to stick with what we have already on certain streets. This is going to be an important block. So it's not related to your submittal on the architecture, but since you're here, and since we tend to be always trying to, you know, I think you should think about that. Look at that with your landscape architect and see if, yeah, I'm sorry. OK okay because it would be just incredible yeah I think we've been a hard-grided part of the time in standpoint. So it's trying to balance out those things like that. So the tennis, you know, and you kind of do on the set. Well, if you get something that's the trunk is it's very cool. It doesn't block any signage in the the it's a what do you call it a feather palm rather than a fan palm and it provides shade. It makes a strong statement, lights up great for all of these and even if it's big enough the bottom words you can still view from the office tent and the office tent actually benefits from seeing a little bit of foliage. Now it's not the only thing, but it's just, if you build on what's already been started, it would make this block really attractive. You know, I was an opponent for having this repeat on another corner and didn't get, didn't get my fellow commissioners to agree with me. Y'all talk who was being cheap. That poor corporation couldn't afford it and it bothers me every time I drive by there Look at that. Yeah, it's only to make it better and it wouldn't have to all be those but Yeah, you know, if it's up a screen men entry or anchors of corn two ends it's probably 3 or 4 and then maybe something else. That's more whatever. I don't know. Are there street trees there now? There's nothing there right now. We're sick of more. I would say. I would say come more to be. There's messy. Yeah, exactly. We want some ever. Right. It was a different street. might suggest a different tree. But I think it would up your game and your tenants would be happy and wouldn't cause that. Well, I think the hotel is doing that. For sure. Yeah, I think you go. You get that's borrowed landscaping. Yeah. That's part of it. You go, you know, this is all in the past week. We're all so. Well. You do have a gateway there because you already have corresponding landscape treatments, decorations and Christmas. And then all of a sudden, with what the hotel does and what you do during all days. Wow. Like one of those movies where it's like a Christmas like competition. You guys know anybody in my place Santa Claus on Christmas. I don't know it's gonna grow bigger. A bigger beer. That's not Santa Claus came down to reverse beat. ran adjuice in his golf cart now to get it right What's the height by the way from the second four deck to the I wish that was lower but I always said that matter scale. It looks fine. It's not a comment on the architecture. It's more of a scale for people hanging out. I think the do something with some street trees if you can work it out with the city could think it's that kind of street now. Yeah, just you just work it out. Yeah, the rhythm is. It's not an evenly it doesn't have to be an evenly spaced thing. It can enhance your breezeway, your corners or the ends. So it's probably four. Look at it. If you're clients willing to. It's more money. This is no deal topic. I know you. We trust you. These are legacy projects. That's all. That's all I have. I think it's going to be fun. Yeah, I did have the luxury of looking at this being on the DRC previously, but obviously I did see this online a little bit previously. So at first, I want to keep my comments generally, you know, I'm in favor of what you guys are proposing, and that's going to be based on the recommendation that we'll make to the Planning Director, but I do have a couple of comments that I just want to get out there, and you guys can choose to do obviously what you want to do with it. So yeah, I did immediately seize the second floor seemed a little tall. You know, and then also this tenet signage element, it's actually that this is like floating above the stair. It just visually, you know, you want that massing to come down. So it feels a bit strange. So this massing element is floating above the arcade, if you will. It's not coming down. It doesn't look like it's supported. It's just. I assume this is in line with this wall. This does not seem, it's not, yeah, it comes out past this back wall face. So in other perspectives, it's a little bit more apparent that it looks a bit on, but I also wonder how effective of marketing and signage that is being so high up and beyond. It just passes for the office to all that. You know. And as you guys figure out your tenant situation, and I wonder, is there any signage that can go down lower or something like that, maybe? The hard thing is there's like, you can't do it. The logical place is that it was to have two signs on the floor. I will then just look at how few different times. I mean, 10,000 square foot tangent they want some prominent. And that's actually, I mean, that's pretty reasonable. We're trying to figure a way to not take away from the ground for 10 and so ice like that. That would be a sign of a given sub-prominence. Right. So the bar or the second floor tenet is now all one tenet. So their primary signage I thought was on top of the bar and that's just not in the renderings. But I took that out. So that was the first thought with this more key ground floor ten that out. Okay. So if you're entering the ground floor guy, people might be confused that you're going into that. Yeah. Yeah. Well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the idea to create the meeting signs. Right. I have a question because I do. I do. Along with that. Well. I saw that this looks a little low. That opening there. To me, there's a lot of, I call, forehead space between the top of that awning in the barn. That wood. That was going to signage previously above there it seems like but I wonder if that could be raised up to feed it looked like this is about an eight foot header right now so I wonder if that could be raised up slightly to kind of get rid of a lot of that now blank wall massing that's not being used for marketing. So take that comment with you, you know, how you will. Little the gable brackets. There's one in the center, two right there. It just seems like there should be one on the end. It just seems like there should be two on either end and there's nothing there. That's okay. Lights. Like 50% bigger. And then as you figure out your ground floor tenants, how are you solving? I did see that you guys modified the restrooms at the second floor. Those, based on the occupancy count, that seems a little excessive for just the business use upstairs. So I'm wondering how you're doing restrooms for the ground floor tenants. Are those all gonna be individual stalls like that are are just not shown basically? Okay, so each There's 12 there's 10 or yeah 10, thousand so that I think that seems 150 is for business occupancy Yeah 12,000 square feet of office this. Where did I do it right now? There's my second four calcs. That's an issue to come to plan check if it works. Yeah. So there's my second four calcs. That's an issue to come to plan check. Yeah, your your Occupancy factor for that for a business occupancy is presumably 150 so you've got 84 women or 84 total people in that space So 42 men 42 women That seemed a little large on the amount of stalls that you were providing. Of course, you can go over and access that did seem, you know, five urinals in one toilet. I think you would be, as you go through the building department, I think you'll find out that you probably need one more toilet stall in the men's, but that's easy. I wondered on now that this area is a breezeway at the second floor, or not, you enclosed it now, the breezeway at the second second floor I'm sure you'll you it sounds like you're still figuring out the lobby situation at the second floor but I wonder on the ground floor we've got this big wide you know 12 foot opening here but then it's kind of blocked by your elevator and the service closet it It would be really nice if we could just have this clear open space, whether you offset the distance a little bit. You pull these in slightly and then you add it a little bit more retail space so that you kept this 10 feet clear all the way through. Then it also looked like you're doing an offset elevator on one on one side here and another on the other side. Then you might be able to save a lot of money on that elevator doing it on the same side and then you have that clear 10 foot you know whatever space all way through, rather than it being, it's really choked down to six feet there, something like that, by that elevator wall. Because on your elevations here you've got one narrower space, which is true, which is the elevator tower core. And then on your opposite side, it's actually wider, but then you hit that wall as you're walking through that breezeway. I just think it would be help to funnel people on the sight plan from the parking garage over here to the street a little bit bigger if this was just opened up wider a little bit. There's a balance obviously. A little area. A little bit of awkward. A little bit of lower special. Yeah. And also, yeah. It was portions of the front elevation. You know, the arduous balance. So what it makes me did is, okay. So that's what was pulled out. But I got an elevator. We, uh, I think you could balance it by pulling that elevator. It's about the least of those things. You could balance it. But I think you could balance it by pulling that elevator. I think you could balance your leaseable space, right? By moving the elevator in two feet, your carbon into leaseable space, but then you're pulling this wall outward, you know, four feet, so your net overall, and knee of equal. It ruins your module, you know, out a head turner a little bit. Just something I noticed and kind of thought about. Is it you're also your intent to have two different width stairs just based on the volume? I guess just central coming out there Okay And for egress do you technically need that left hand side stare? Yeah, still even though you've got another stair over here. This is all combined now So you, I'm all theory, you could get rid of that one, widen that one based on your occupancy loads, you get two at the corners. But practically, totally get. I think those were my only off script kind of comments, I guess a little bit. Other than this, this is your Southern elevation from the parking lot. These windows at your second floor are going to be getting a lot of light. I wonder if you're almost is it? Can you do the trail of structure above those or give some sort of protection to those windows as well Because those are the ones that are working I really beat on You just you just get people closing the shades all day though, so it's just Behind here But not a couple. I don't... I think you've got like six inches in between the right you're talking about you might get one tree there one tree there or two if you're lucky yeah transformer whatever Puntound trees stand makes you do. I'm making them do. That was all I had. I'm going to add to your comment though. Or sure. I'll layer my comments on top of yours. The, though I think it would be fine if everything's a straight throat, meaning if they came to us with something that's just parallel walls, it would be fine. One thing good about, I'm going to play the other side of it, but this is wider kind of pulls people towards this from the parking garage. And there's something intriguing sometimes about a space that's not simple and kind of looks. You've got kind of a nook and cranny under the stairway. And then you've got this and then it narrows and it becomes a peekaboo kind of if you're long to say oh look there's a little corridor through to the backside most the activity that you're going to be encouraging is is across the front but of course all the parking is going to be in the back. Right. There's no right or wrong. But the one thing that I do kind of agree with and maybe there's an easy answer. Thanks for pointing this out. I thought I didn't even look at it. I thought this was in line with the wall. And it does look a little awkward when a pair put is hanging one third out over a shed roof. Now with your signage issue, is there any, is there a problem with height or anything if that, if that box was pushed Back you still need the height for signage. Is there any problem with that being just a pair of put above main roof line? Is that an option? I think we're up against the height limit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah, honestly, it's been so long. I know you explained it as a dormant and I get that sometimes you'll have a shed roof and a flatter shed roof like on a bar and that's maybe the inspiration for that. But in that case you would expect those clear story windows or those louvers on a building to possibly be in line with a wall below. I think that's what we're trying to put in the literal. Yes. That's all. It's fired by. That's why I was wondering if you can get the same shape and just push it back and let it go up a little higher. It's a detail. It's a building simpler without it. But I understand the ideas to put the science here rather than here. Yeah, I'm okay with I'm okay with the breezeway the way it is. I'd be okay if you change it, but I don't, I think it's interesting the way it is. I don't see it as an negative. I do see the, yeah, this can possibly be better. Is that actually sloping? So it is kind of like a one in 12 pitch. So it isn't just a flat parapet. So if it was flat and came off the bridge line and just came off flat, they wouldn't be taller and you could push your back up with that over him for the You can't see it the site line. No, I can't think many people are going to see it in this current place. I want to provide a solution for you of where some sort of signage could go for that tenant. Is there availability, something vertical, almost in the stair or in the elevator core? Right there, I know it's a tuck back. I understand your concerns about, I mean that was a prime spot above the bar. But I get your concerns of having two different signages and which one is which. I think that the sound is not grossly out of character. No, I get it. No. And we're kind of like split hairs. I don't know if there's a right answer. Yeah. And this is the signage is not what's being presented today, right? Those are just off-script comments. No, I get it. No. And I'm kind of like splitting hairs. I don't know if it was a right answer. Yeah. And this is, the signage is not what's being presented today, right? Those are just off script comments to clarify. Yeah. Correct. Got it. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really like what you guys have put together. Thank you. an alternate so I haven't seen everything come through but I'm not sure if it's the same team that we've received but I'm sure it is.'s the same team that the River Street put. Oh, I'm sorry, it is. Yeah, so the design is beautiful. The improvement, I don't even see it as a modification, but an improvement of creating a place where people sit and eat and gather. I do all my meetings at the coffee shop there across the street, so hopefully get a good coffee roaster in there. And the breezeway, or connecting the buildings, how I've built my book of business is going to businesses and giving my information. And when I go into a business that has an arrival like that where you're looking at the mission or something cool, it's a sense of arrival. It really is. And especially, I don't know what business they're gonna be in, but if they're related to any sort of design or something that is creative, and you walk in and you see that. I think it's inspiring. Yeah, it is. If it's all windows in the back, like you're talking about, I think it's killer. A lobby, you know? So I like what you guys have done. It seems like no one's concerned at all about enclosing that second floor breeze. No, I think it's interesting. Especially if they want one tenant, it makes way more sense. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And that's where the lobby should be. Right. But I can see them being able to design it in a way later on if another tenant came in there and be able to split it again in the future. In there, you can create two suites. And now you have to look for consideration as you Yes,, you rework the bathrooms and whatever the bathrooms might want or orient to that central What was the breeze way so that if you ever do splint it off to two different tenants They both can use those restaurants I have two separate ones. They go outside here No, they're interior. Oh, this tenant specifically questions. OK, got it. You're right. Basically, way out, we can probably do this. But I was in the worst case scenario. That tenant goes away in 12 years. You can hook a hole. You know, I'm going to do that balcony. Yes, you could. You could. I think you could rotate those restrooms 90 degrees so that they open out into this core. And then that way if you ever split this off and you had one door here, one door here to another tenant, they both can use that restroom. Here's the restroom. Here's a staffed link. All of the restroom. Here's a shaft. Right. All of the trees on the top can be used for left to right. And for south so to speak. So all that. I'm not sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see the end of the video. I'm sure if you can see The GC and the share. And all that stuff. The GC and the share. And all that stuff. The GC and the share. And all that stuff. The GC and the share. And all that stuff. Or the Y and those are the. I'll be, you can have ten entrances. Are you divided up? Only if they switch the doors to be getting out on the That can be a remote Exactly The easy thing is? That would be a remote No, we have to go No, I get it Of course, you're going to lease the whole space But it is flexible Yeah This is not like the 10s point question It's hard when two story builds whole space. But it is flexible. Well, I was going to ask you there could be more of these. This guy here, we're done. We've got it here. Oh, got it. Yeah. But some of these would have to go lighter. Well, that's what that is. Right. That's a chase. But you still won't know until you get to tennis and have their kitchen drawings. Exactly. have to put a box in the middle. I'm hoping not, but around the ducts floor is only so expensive with clean outs. But hey, I'm sure you guys have enough room to make, make everything work in height. Yeah, I'll go 14 feet. No, it's not. I'm not going to be in office. No, I get it. It's going to be great to see. Yeah, let me get it. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. It's going to be great to see. for sure. Yeah. A logical point. Yeah, for sure. Oh, fast food row is fast food row, but I think this is when you want to experience the downtown as a pedestrian. And we're going to box out fast food row with a bunch of great architecture and spaces to hang out. Great. Okay. And I like the planners. I like the trees. Dan, I have 32 trees in my house for trees, but I like the planner boxes too. I think they can be really well done. You know, and it's a second-line defense against kids running around if you have a patio. You know, it's one, it's five extra seconds. Security cars for sure. What are the AT or something? That's a rare good point. What do you talk about there in Follower? Yeah. No, I like the planners. I think... for sure. That's a very good point. Yeah, that's a really good point. What kind of palm that is across from the hotel? Those are your own. Canary Island Day Poms? Yeah. That's one of the ones that I down. Can you hear me? I wasn't sure. Yeah. That's something. Yeah. Okay. Move on. DRC secretary, are there any members of the public that would like to provide public testimony? If so, please limit your remarks to three minutes. I like it. All right. Does the applicant have any other opportunity to rebut any information or views introduced by the public? Does the applicant wish to rebut a rebuttal? We like it too. Cool. All right. Do any committee members have any comments or recommendations on the proposed project? I recommend we approve the changes. We make that recommendation to the appropriate staff. I don't think there's anything specific to note. No. I don't have anything specific to note. I think we trust them if we had something good and they go back to a new to on it and think it's better. They'll do it. Don't. But hopefully the trees would be the only thing I would hope for. I wonder if that was a big date bomb or whatever they call it. No, carry on. Canary Island date bomb. There's a date bomb which is bigger. That landscaping in front of the end is really nice. Yeah, it'd be nice if that kind of continued down a little bit. Yeah. Cool. Know what they got. Working out better or worse than a sick board. Better. Okay. Yeah. There you go. So we're helping. All right. Yeah. So if I made a motion to recommend approval, then just need to say. All second in that motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. The motion passes on a 3-0 vote. Now moving on to committee staff comments. Do any committee members have any comments? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Hi. I'm seeing you. Any comments? No, committee members. Okay. The staff have any comments? I have none. Great. Now moving on to adjournment, we have concluded our meeting. Therefore, this meeting is adjourned to Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 4.30pm, in the Council Chambers at the Community Services 25925 Commeno del Avion. Sam, Sam, one cap is strong. Have a good night. Thank you.