Thank you. We are recording. Just a reminder to use the microphone so people can hear you at home. Let me need to order at 631. Thank you and at this time I'll call roll. We have Azure. Present. Dan. Present. Zach. Here. Christy. Here. Karen. Here. Thank you. We have a quorum this evening. Next on the agenda is public comment, which we don't appear to have. Not aware of any. Moving on to reports and presentations, city update. Fantastic. Well, I'd love to just highlight a couple of things off the city update's handout that's in your agenda packet. Notably, we have a call for art that is due tomorrow for the Board of Wrecked Town Center. We'll start to get those artists resumes in there. And the mayor's art competition deadline approaches as well for those interested no students that are interested in that. We've had some great committee meetings recently, planning for upcoming events, including Juneteenth and International Festival, so if you know anyone interested in sponsoring those events, please let us know. There's some great volunteer opportunities out there on point. And I want to highlight, in the next five we have lots of fun events that will be kicking off next Friday at 1030 we've got the ribbon cutting for the dog silhouettes the paws installing it in Newtown Park hope to see some of you there. Then we've got the earth day celebration at Autry Mill in partnership with them. Some great coordination going on with Autry Mill in the city. So I'm really excited about that event. International festival is going to be a big one. That first Saturday in May. And then June 10th. So got all of that. And certainly lots more going on behind the scenes. But update wise, they say arts culture and entertainment is a live and well in the city. one thing that's not on here, but I want to make sure you guys are aware. Monday night we're going to be discussing with the mayor and council the Performing Arts Center update. So one of the things we've been working on behind the scenes is a broader initiative to study whether or not it makes sense to add a Performing Arts Center here in the city. Earlier the year we hired a consultant to help us with performing a cost estimate for both what would it cost to construct that and then what would it cost to operate and maintain it. So the council could make an eyes wide open fully aware decision on whether or not to move forward. So we got all of that information in from the consultant and the council's going to review that and discuss in their work session on Monday night. So if that is something of interest to you, give in your on the Art Culture and Entertainment Committee, I think it's something that may be. So I would encourage you to tune in and make sure your opinions aren't. Just a question on that. Those work sessions, you know, there's no public comment on those, but you can attend if you'd like to. You can attend. We typically have lots of people join us for work session, watch online as well as email in comments and then sometimes if we have a topic that people are really interested in, they'll stay and give comment at the 7 p.m. council meeting so that they get that in the ether because council doesn't tend to finalize decisions and work session. They're that opportunity for discussion and working through things. We also have the elected officials at johnscreatega.gov that we get a lot of great feedback through. So those agenda materials for the Council meeting and work session on Monday went live this afternoon and of the business today. So those are up on the city's website if you want to check out the memo or any of the supporting documentation. But I am confident they would love to hear from you and get your perspective and thoughts. But that concludes my update unless you guys have more questions. I'm just curious if anyone on Juneteenth Planning Committee or International Festival Planning Committee are in the room. Okay. That's planning to run the booths. Okay. That makes sense. If anyone ends up volunteering on those planning committees, it would be awesome to give us status update in our monthly meetings, just to let us know if you're looking for more volunteers or need more vendors or sponsors. I think we're ready to move on to art signage options. Fantastic. Well, the next item before you is a continuation of a discussion that you guys had at your March committee meeting in your updated agenda report, Olivia has provided for you some pictures of cast bronze markers that are on Memorial Venge's, currently installed in Johns Creek. One of the things that I pointed out to me was as you look at just those two examples, this is a great visualization of why it's important for us to be having the conversation about standardizing our signage because the fonts don't match, the text doesn't match, the layout doesn't match. But what's great about our conversation is we now have some pictures of what what bronze markers look like as well as some pictures of what aluminum composite material would look like. From watching the tape of your March meeting, it sounded like the board was in general consensus of the information that you want on the sign for pieces of art moving forward. You're pretty set on that. It just came down to let's make sure we know what our preference is for a signage moving forward. The one color commentary I will add to that conversation is you don't necessarily have to say it's all or nothing, a binary yes or no to one choice or the other. You may as a committee want to give some guidance or feedback on. In these situations it makes a whole lot of sense to use bronze and that should be the preference. In these situations it probably makes sense to check both options. If it's a very small art installation, a very large, significant marker may not make a lot of sense. It may make sense to be like, hey, what's important is standardized typeface information and text, not necessarily that all markers have to be made out of the same thing. So that is just a food for thought. I'm happy to give you more of a presentation, but I also want to be respectful that you started this conversation and had a lot of great thoughts at your last meeting. I just want to pick it up and keep it moving. So then, yeah, turn it back to the chair. All right, so I think anyone who is here last time noticed that I was pretty passionate about this. My thought is that there's, we don't have an issue with a barrier to entry. There aren't all these people lined up that want a sign in John's Creek and this isn't a taxpayer-funded thing. It's entirely optional to have these signs. Because of who we are, we're be the exception. I feel that we should guide people to the bronze signs because 50 years, bronze ages gracefully, ACM is cheap and it can be printed fast and the cool things about it, the ACM aluminum, it does detail really well and it does color really well. As you can see, these aren't detail or color. Those points aren't really what this is for. So it's right, it's cheap, it's faster to make. But is that really the barrier to entry? Do we want to just have signs in John's Creek that are as expensive as my door dash order this evening? So my thought is that Olivia last time we were here said that larger installations like the boardwalk art piece and for example the horse at the roundabout would have signage that's bronze. We would probably opt for the higher end stuff for that art. And if the goal is cohesive, I don't think that we should do bronze for the higher end and then aluminum for the other art. I think it's optional entirely. No one's being forced to buy anything, so I think we should just kind of lean in towards the higher brow stuff. But I can understand if the committee doesn't agree with that. This is just my personal opinion. The ACM last like two years and doesn't age gracefully like bronze my. I know there's a comment on here about bronze during the panita, I don't even know, patina. Yeah, that's like a sought after look sometimes. The ACM fading is not a sought after look. So as bronze ages, it can look really cool. But that's just my thoughts on it. I would think that we should air towards bronze and then in situations where we have rotating art, we would do the aluminum composite because it's just not a permanent situation. That's my opinion. I'm looking at the ACM and diagram 3. The photo is that a weathered look or is that intentional? It's an intentional, water-bled look. Is my understanding? The versions that Olivia put in the packet for you were all a solid color ACM. So it wasn't intended to say you have to go for that marble book again the point of having standardized Standardized signage would try to so away from having so many options You know the kind of weather that wasn't you know, I believe it was intended to look like fake marble Okay, maybe not the look we're going for here. I don't think so. I don't think so. No. Can I have a comment? I used to, you know, I'm keeping my opinion on if it's a large, you know, kind of sculpture, very nice, and I wouldn't say very nice, but just scale and then a magnificent piece of it. The bronze one kind of match. But for other, you know, like not so big ones. And I think we should have a choice of the aluminum. But not the marble looking, the solid little thing. Solid color. Yeah, it looks better. Yeah. Sensing a consensus on at least that point. What about, I like having bronze for everything, but could for the smaller pieces of work or what not, could it just be a smaller sign? So could the difference just, is all still bronze the same look, but is the size is with the variance. And that should decrease the cost too, correct or not? Yes, so one of the things Olivia did in updating this was on that second page of the memo, she gave you an 8x10 cost as well as a 6x8 cost to give you comparable both in the bronze and the ACM. So yes, the cost does change and we just need to be mindful about like, okay, if we're going bronze, then we have to be mindful of QR codes don't work so well on bronze, which is fine. That's not a required feature. We would just want to make sure that we get the sign to fit the right amount of a description. Some of our artist descriptions that I've looked at and received have been very long, and some can truncate what they want to say on their side. So yes. I totally agree with that. Second on you guys any structure, you know any structure will represent John's Creek as a city like big structure. I think it's a static point of view. Bronze will look awesome. But yeah any smaller structure depending on the side or where it's not very out there very obvious. I think then we can go for ACMs like the chairs and inside the park but the where there's entry or where there's representing the city of Johns Creek or anything. Because we are, Johns Creek is one of the most important best areas. So I think bronze will represent us the way it looks. Just to continue to chime in, I think bronze also adds to the exact point about the patina. It adds over time to the artwork. It doesn't, not that the aluminum just tracks. It just doesn't add anything. I think the bronze looks, it just puts a little punctuation in a positive way on the statement and wraps it up. So I think it's a consistent. Press is brought up. I agree as well. I agree as well. Now I do think, as Zack said, if you happen to have something that is a temporary piece of art, something that moves around and needs to follow that, I think the very conservative ACM fought everything would be the way to go. But I know you're fun. What if a good compromise would be that we say that unless the bronze eclipse the cost of the art itself? That's good. Not be our compromise. Just end it right there. Yeah, that's a great line. Yeah, guy like. And also what Karen brought about, you know, like if they can have a smaller one for a smaller sculpture that reduced the price, that's a good alternative too. Right. For example, do we know what is going on the JC Paws next week with that statue? What do we know what type of signage is with that? I believe the goal was to have this conversation inform that decision. Okay. We have a number of art pieces that are installed but do not have formal art signage at the moment. Okay. So this is then going to be implemented. But JC Paws would be donor-based. You know, whoever wants to buy a sign for it, it's not a city money or anything. But are those going to be following our guidelines as well? That's, I understood that what we put forth was also going to guide the donors. Like, it basically told them what they had to do, correct? I mean, or not. So it wouldn't necessarily mandate that they had to have signage. So we do have some art installations that does not have a sign. Okay. So if you choose to put signage with your piece of art, we would ask that it follows our practice policy guidance because now we will have that. Of, I guess, our preferences for bronze, our preferences that I'd include, you know, a description, the donor programming knowledgement, and when it's installed, along with the name of the artwork, and here the two sizes we'd recommend. But- That's my turning point in this thought process is if the sign was required then I would say, let's go aluminum because we don't want to do this huge barrier to entry for the signage and maybe people won't even do art at that point, but since it's entirely optional I say we guide towards bronze. I agree. There are only for here the 8 by 10 and 6 by 8 are those the only size options that we have like could you have like a 4 by 6 perhaps. I am happy to look into that. I do not know off the top of my head. I believe you can get them smaller. I don't know if that would give you. I think like a four by six. But part of it is making sure that you have a ring size to have an art name and description. When we took the City Council to Columbus, they had very small art signage. It was consistent and it was lovely, but all it said was the name of the artwork, the name of the artist, and then a QR code for how to learn more about that piece part, but it was literally smaller than four by six. But that was okay because their package was intended for less information. Yeah, I think it would be nice to include that into the selection. If it's a guideline also to people who are the donors, you know, like they were like, okay, it adds some dollar to their donation, right? So if we have the regular one and then the middle sides one and then the smaller one, it'll be nice. I'm happy looking to you. Yeah, for their, you know, like they need to have some freedom to select, you know, what they want. If it's too restrictive, you know, some people may not be happy. So just two. I do want to add to that though, my thought would be that it is restricted in a way for these benches, like only one side sign for these benches. We can't have four different sizes on those. But I don't know that at least I didn't hear it in the past conversation. I don't know that benches necessarily are what we're after in terms of art. We want to have standardized signage. Oh, I thought these were regulating also the benches as well. Right. You probably don't have a title of artwork and a name of artist on a bench. We have a very standardized bench. So I think happy to learn more. But I thought the conversation was more focused on artwork and then we were going to inform what signs we put on benches based on the feedback and the decisions made by this committee on what you'd like to see on art. But the material for the benches will also be the cast bronze or will there be another option for benches? Or is that just not matter because it's not us. It's not the art. Culture. That I can't answer off the top of my head because we have a combination of benches that the city by is and benches that are donated in memorial or in recognition or in honor of someone. So it's a, I know for sure, the goal of tonight's conversation we get to get guidance from the Arts Culture Entertainment Committee on what signage you'd like to see for art signs, which is slightly different than what we want to put in a bench. But I hear you loud and clear of consistency matters, sizing consistency matters, type face matters, all of the things that we're going for of establishing that sense of place and what does that look and feel like? Go back to consistency and I appreciate your feedback of wanting to make sure that hey we have a preference for bronze, we love the way it ages, we love the class that's associated with bronze and that it really steps up a notch with the art that we're adding this trying to create these special places. We like having options, maybe a small medium large, but want to recognize the different donors of art may have different price points that they are comfortable doing and don't want the exact added a really great one there. I don't want the cost of the sign to eclipse the cost of the art. So for both temporary art installations as well as smaller less costly art installations, we'll have an option of using ACM but it'll be standardized typeface information so it will be as close as to the bronze eye as possible But else did I miss a my recap. No, that sounds perfect. It's like should we just motion to vote on that right now? Sure I'm not a good videotape. I am motioning to approve what Kimberly just said I like it. I like it. Oh, great. Do you do it like all in favor? Do we need to next move on to clarify color preferences for ACM or? Let's do that after we get a formal I think for the minutes Jake probably needs you to raise your hands either for or against that motion. For. For. Okay. Now, onto the ACM, that's a great point, because we will have some temporary art installations and some much smaller art installations. In the agenda packet you had four starting points, a black, a kind of olive green, a gray, and a white. I believe ACM comes in tons of colors. So if you hate all those options, but I'm gonna go back to the chair of Zach, how would you like to navigate the color? Oh, no, I think we narrowed it down to these two colors in our last meeting. Okay, sorry. So, is that part? Yeah, and my thought is that the black looks closer to the bronze. Hi, Gray. I like black. Agree. Okay. Okay. For Shin for Black, for ACM. I could. So I got four. Four. Four. All in favor? This isn't. Fun to work. Okay. Well, then I feel like I have good direction and consensus from the body. Understand the colors and when we will use each type. We could have four hours around color conversation. It's your preference. I'm going to find council meeting Monday. I love the efficiency and energy of this board. You guys are really are fun to look at a final version of this, or is that not an ace thing? So we can certainly take like the JC Pause installation as an example, because we have an artwork title, we know the name of the artist. I believe we have gotten from the artist a brief description. Donor program acknowledgement is where we would put in the information about the donor install date. That's pretty straightforward as well. My pausing pondering question here is how much more do you want to see like it will be a brief description of the artwork based on the size of the plaque That's determined will determine the number of characters my And I know John's Creek probably has a whole art packet of Of what our style guide is, but you know, I'm seeing like three different fonts on this right here. But yeah, I mean, I would just curious if you come back or. It's the committee is so inclined and wanted to come back, you can. I have a, I thought the goal from the conversation I may have missed it from what was present last time was to make sure we got the right Components on there and then yes, we do have a brand style guy that would catch the you're right There should only be one font the city's logo can be a secondary type phase, but that's the only secondary type phase The goal is for consistency, but there were some comments about I think it was in the last meeting too, with the QR code saying maybe like scan here or learn more or I think we might have mentioned even putting these the JC flags right in the middle of the QR code because unsolicited links are really scary. They can do lots of things and just showing that branding on this QR code will make people feel a lot safer. My understanding and I could have it wrong because this is not my area of expertise, is that if we went bronze, we would not do a QR code. So that's kind of a moot point. So the logo may move down to that location. But. Cool. Yes. Standardized. Gotcha. All right. I'm ready to move on to the approval of meeting minutes. I make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from March 13. Second. All in favor? Aye. Great. On to community placemaking program options. Okay, so I hope you all read the agenda packet, but this is officially your homework assignment. And then I am confident you have all seen placemaking art in surrounding communities and your travels outside of John's Creek. And what's great about placemaking art is it tends to be small and relatively cost-effective, but has a really impactful way of giving a place that extra pizzazz. So the examples Olivia highlighted in the memo included the Tiny Doors Atlanta Project along the Atlanta Belt Line. And then the, now, Avalon 12 Ron Squirrel Statues, where you pick up your little guide and you try to find them around Avalon. There are tons of other examples, but rather than be closed minded of like, okay, well let's just use something we have seen next door or one option. One of the things Olivia and Zach talked about was wouldn't it be great if we tapped into the expertise on this board and asked each committee member to bring an example. Something you've seen that you think might be a good fit for Johns Creek, and so that we have enough information to work with if you can get the name of the city or location where it is if we need to do more research. A short description ideally when did they install it what is it? A photo if you can find one either online or from your travels cost if you can find it. If you can't find it it's okay just what was it and we'll it out. If we happen to like it, like that becomes the consensus a group will want to do more research into the cost before recommending it. And then a link to a website if there happens to be one. So the goal is to let's add to the staff knowledge on the topic with examples that you like you have seen and you think might be a good fit for John's Creek. Now, it's a big ask, but I'm confident that if we tap in your expertise we'll have a better discussion at the May meeting to make sure we can compile that and put it on the agenda packet so that everyone has the same information. We were thinking maybe if you could get to us by Wednesday, April 30th, so that's just under three weeks from now. I don't know if any of them immediately popped into your mind or if you need help on the homework assignment of some suggestions, I'm happy to help you with that offline. But that's the ask. I'll be like, okay, community place making. Do you need any more description of what community place making is? Or do you have enough and we can go from there? Are there any thoughts or guidelines that the city has on size or scale or? So this is brand new for us. Okay. And that it came up at the Council Retreat of something we talked about as our council has seen this in other locations. I took them to Greenville two years ago for the city council retreat. So they likewise have tiny little bronze mice that are hidden in different places. They also have a lot of great public art installations around their downtown. When we each different city I've taken council to for the last three council retreats in particular has had different types of place making art that distinguish their town center. Not saying this has to be limited to our town center. But the reason we talked about it at the retreat was arts and cultures in the area the Council is leaning into has prioritized for us to be working on something to set Johns Creek apart and really further our identity. So I don't have parameters yet. The goal was to find some really great examples and then kind of define and identify what our parameter should be so that whatever program is implemented is done in a way that's not too edgy or not too out of character with all of John's Creek? Would an example be an Al Thoreta where they have throughout the town, center, bronze statues, as little children doing different things? Yes, that certainly adds to the place, the character, the, you know you're an Al Thoreta because. Right. Nashville has the ceramic pigs all over the place with barbecue, what not right. Yes, okay, exactly. So those were the kids thing. I think three meetings ago when we were talking about the dog installation we were thinking about There are some I mentioned that we were talking about the dog installation, we were thinking about somebody mentioned that one of the meetings, maybe the dog installations throughout John's Creek. So part of the challenge of the homework is there are a lot of ideas. Which one do you think would be a good fit? You're allowed to turn in more than one homework. I think we should have a cock-a-poo bronze statue somewhere. Okay. Great. But yes, Dan, you definitely have the concept of what is place-making art, what are some examples that you've seen or heard about? I want to add something. I don't know if anyone's seen the tiny doors in Atlanta. I used to live in Atlanta for like six years. And the tiny doors are really cool. They're all over the city. Each one looks different. They're literally just these tiny little front porch step doors. And they're all different styles. And people go around and find them in the city. They haven't seen like a map before the rat, which I don't know if we want that or not. But it's kind of cool to just be walking on the belt line in Atlanta and just discover one and people will gather around and take pictures. It's like a whole Instagram thing. So be really cool to have stuff like that in John's Creek. It doesn't have to be super expensive either. So probably no bronze signs for these. But yeah, I'm really excited about it. And I hope everyone is cool with assigning homework like this. I thought it was a good idea to have it more community ideas than staff driven. But yeah, I'm super stoked. And hopefully we can all come up with ideas for our next meeting. Okay. Well, you officially have your homework. If you run into trouble with the homework, please email, call, care, or pigeon, all of those great things. Happy to help, want you to be successful with this. Look forward to hearing about your ideas. You're debating us, positive face. This is where I like one of those completion grades, if you turn it in, I am confident you will do a great job with it. Well, where we graduate? I think so. Okay. Up next on the agenda, we have Dapadil Days recap. I don't know if you wanted to start that on. Sure, I just want to point out that Olivia put together a great memo that's got some highlights from the event we held on Saturday, March 29th at Heisman Field, across from the Atlanta athletic club. We estimated that we had about 3,500 people in attendance. We're using hand clickers at the entrance to try to get a good count on the number of people. I love that she included lots of pictures, so if you didn't happen to make it to the event, you could get a sense for what that was like. whether it was the fun, I I guess carnival style rides or the petting zoo or some vendor activity booths, they all the major components of the event seemed to be well received. And we on the second page of that memo gave you a couple of the staff observations and potential adjustments. Every time we do an event especially one like this where it was a new format for us, we do a hot wash afterwards where the team sets together and they talk about what well where can we improve? So we try to keep the things that go well and then we try to smooth out the bumpy patches if you will. So we've got a couple of suggestions where we could make improvements. But I know Zach was there and I believe a couple of you guys made it or have heard about it since. So I wanted to pass back to you for, I think you said you brought notes of options. Yeah, I don't want to be daunting with that. But so for all of our events, I'd really like to get into anyone that attended just giving some minor feedback to our committee, so we know how to adjust and make it better. In no way is this criticizing anyone's work. We just won't know how to be better unless we talk about it. So I think that the event was a major success. I was really nervous about turnout, and I think we got a lot of turnout. 1000 more people than I estimated. But I think we got a lot of turnout. Thousand more people than I counted or estimated. But I think that the main issue and it's not even really issue, it's a room for improvement, would be the event branding and identity. I didn't see a lot of signage for the event. I did see sign, I also sponsored the event. but I saw signage with, you know, like my business logo and stuff, but it was on the stage and that was the furthest from the entrance of the event. And I just felt that we're really missing, that it's John's Creek and really missing that it was daffodil days. And I think, I would just recommend that in the future, we work on signage a little bit. It's not a big deal. It was the first event of its kind. So I get that there's growing pains. The second point of feedback I had, and this is from not even really my experiences, but random people I would talk to at the event and ask them what could be better. It was the food truck diversity, food options. I think it might have been covered in here a little bit, but essentially there were two food trucks and they both served the same menu, which was like carnival food. So there wasn't really any competition between the two food trucks, but I did get complaints from someone who was either vegetarian or vegan saying that they felt left out. But just having some options with that, and I think the main core issue with that was that we just weren't sure about turnout, so there's a limited budget for food truck diversity and stuff. I would recommend if we're doing two food trucks, they'd just be different genres of food. The lines were pretty long and like I said, I think it's because of a bigger turnout than expected. I was 50th in line at the food truck. So that was kind of a long way and then afterwards I had trouble finding seating. The seats were, I don't think there's enough tables. And I think that there could have been more tables closer to the stage area. I'll get into the stage placement in a little bit. But back to the food trucks. I think that with our events, we want to, I talked about Instagram earlier, but we really want to make our events Instagram worthy, IG worthy, picture worthy, where we're not paying for advertising, we're not paying for sponsorship to get our event out there to our community. But every single person who attends our event is enlisted to advertise for us because they're taking all these pictures. There's all these opportunities to make really cool pictures and memories at these events. And I think food trucks can come into play with that, where we could have had say a food truck that serves like really cool crepes or gelato or something. Something that's really picture worthy. Because another point of feedback I got was there wasn't a lot for teens and teens are all over social media. We have beautiful crepes with straw berries or big gelato ice cream. People love taking pictures with stuff like that. Giant cookies. I think that one of the food trucks served the Korean spiral potatoes on a stick, which is cool. Those are kind of IG worthy. Moving on to my point number three three which is a host or MC. I've kind of said this for a few John's Creek events but some of them don't have a clear host or MC of the event and I think that ties well into my first point which was the event branding. Getting someone up on the stage occasionally and being like welcome to you know know, Daffodil Day's Spring Carnival 2025. Thank you for joining us in John's Creek, stuff like that. Just announcing what's happening when the event ends. I think that'll tie it all together really well. My point number four was the tables and seating stuff. Just felt like there wasn't enough seating once someone got up, and I finally had a chance to sit. There's really 30 tables, but I understand we don't have weight staff at these events, the clean tables for us. But maybe if there's just a few more tables, maybe some closer to the stage as well. I think due to the large turnout, we had the long lines like at the food trucks and for the rides. I think a good solution for that was that we had performers there, like we had jugglers and people on stilts and stuff. I think we had a magician, I'm not sure, but those people could also entertain people in the cues in the lines. Walk around, make photo opportunities for. If some of the lines look long, they don't have to be just on the stage. There might be some insurance stuff with that. So I'll let the city figure it out. But my next thing was engagement for teens. I do think the rock climbing wall was cool because it geared towards a little bit older demographics. But what would be a great idea to increase engagement is maybe we could partner with, does it John's Creek to do a sort of a media wall? I don't know if you all know what I'm talking about, but you see those on red carpets all the time, where it's a white backdrop with all these logos on it, and people take photos in front of it. It feels like you're on the red carpet. So, we could potentially do something like that where we have our sponsorship logos all over it, people are paying to get their logo on there. It says John's Creek all over it, says Daffodil Days. This all ties into the branding that I felt. That could be a little bit more. But lots of teens, lots of people would love to take photos that we don't need a photographer that could be a little bit more, but lots of teens, lots of people would love to take photos that we don't need a photographer. They could take selfies in front of those media walls. Just a good way to sponsor and brand the event. The layout, I think that it was covered in this report too, felt like the stage was just very off to the side. it should have been more in the center, not in the center of the field, but just not off in the corner. My last point, and this is really nitpicky, is some of the music that was with the performing acts I felt was very abstract and didn't quite match the event 100%. And they were amazing performances, by the way. So it's not bashing any of their skills, but I just felt like with it being a youth-oriented carnival, some of the music felt a little, not, adults not the word, but it was just very abstract. It was very Cirque du Soleil in my opinion and there was just lots of kids there that wanted probably like baby shark to be playing or something. Probably can't play that song, but I just felt like there could be some more funner music at the event. And that might go in hand with maybe a DJ next year. That's also an MC. But that is my report. Can I have a comment? That was a wonderful, great report. Because I've been working with Lunar New Year the most. And can we suggest their planning committee have them to recruit MC. And then all of our MCs are volunteers. So they're making the contribution. It doesn't necessarily, you know, has to be a celebrity MC, but someone who has the experience and has the interest to do that. Of course, we, you know, I mean, one of the MCs, she already had a lot of experience. So our community know her already, but the other one, the younger one, we didn't know how he was, you know, but he show us a small video. So we kind of giving him a interview and showing that, yes, he was a very great candidate. Anyway, my point is they can, you know, it can be volunteers. So it doesn't necessarily adding, you know, cost to the event. Exactly. And this is the thing I brought up to Olivia a few times is that I work in the entertainment industry. I work with a lot of voiceover artists and Atlanta is a huge hub for actors and actresses. And being an announcer at these events is very prestigious and soft after and people will line up for these type of jobs. So, and they will volunteer for it and not paid. So, I think that it's a really good idea that we have these announcers or MCs, that these events that just tie it all together. For example, battle of the bands really needed an MC. Well, I was there just to announce the winner, announce the bands and the songs and stuff like that. It just felt like it was missing that main person to really tie it all together. So I totally agree on these MCs. They can be volunteers and I'm happy to pull people I know. I know a lot of people interested in MCing for a Juneteenth as well. So we have people who wind up that are interested. Great. Is there any other feedback? I should take note of or is that a good recap? Thank you. Thank you for sharing. It was really helpful. Certainly, if we don't know, we can't grow. So it's always great to add the additional feedback and insights from the community, from members like yourself who really want to see the events thrive and grow and just get better. So I appreciate that all of your feedback is shared under the guys of helping us improve. So thank you. I have a question though. For Instagram, I know we just challenge this John's Creek page. Do we have any separate for Ace? Come and be. We do not have a separate one just for Ace. But we are continuing to work on growing our city Instagram page. So this through the events is a great way to do that. Unless we have any more comments, I'm just going to remind everyone that it's a thing. Outside of that, I'm motion to adjourn. Second. Is 715.