. Good evening. I'd like to call out our city council meeting for Tuesday, August, no, August, October 1st, 2024. Apparently I want summer back. I'm going to ask councilmember Worth to of the I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. Madam City Clerk, please call roll. Mayor Mills. Mayor Proto-Tempidia. Present. Council Member Fiddler. Here. Council Member Green. Apparently he's absent today. Councilmember Johnston present councilmember Pulaski here councilmember Snyder here councilmember today Present councilmember word here you have a quorum your honor. Thank you Next consent agenda and up city clerk. Please read that to the record. I guess it's just one item Item 2 a approval of the September 3rd, 2024 City Council minutes. Thank you. What's the pleasure council? Council member today. Move item 2A. Mayor Pro Tem. I'll second. First and second to approve consent agenda is read. There's no other discussion. the motion passes eight to zero with one absent. Next item three approval the regular agenda. Once this clear there it is. Would like to make a motion council member Poloski. Thank you mayor. I'd like to move for approval of the regular agenda. Okay. And then council member Fiddler. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to move for approval of the regular agenda. Okay. And then Council Member Fiddler. Thank you, Mayor. I'll second. We have a first and second to approve the agenda. Roll call vote. Motion passes 8- 0, one absent. Next, ceremonies, item 4A, committing to volunteerism, proclamation. I have that in front of compassion, empathy, and community support are the foundation of a United Harmonia society and fosters connections that transcend differences. And, whereas the strength and prosperity of our cities, towns and villages are based in the selflessness of its residents to serve and uplift one another. And whereas we acknowledge the profound impact that can be achieved when we extend a helping hand to our neighbors, especially those of diverse backgrounds and lifting them up and collectively working to improve lives. And whereas we nurture a culture of giving within our cities, emphasizing that volunteerism is not just a duty, but a source of professional or personal fulfillment and community strength. And as we work side by side with and learn from each other, mutual understanding is increased, misconceptions can be corrected and new friendships are built. And whereas we urge all citizens to care for one another, volunteer and engage in acts of service and kindness that contribute to our city's betterment and its inhabitants well-being regardless of background or belief and this where as the city of Brighton has joined a growing list of supporters including the president of the National League of Cities and hundreds of leaders to date in making a commitment to volunteerism. Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City of Brighton and the City Council commits to promoting volunteerism, leveraging just Serb.org to make it easier for residents to find and engage in volunteer opportunities. Well, regularly, regularly acknowledge and celebrate the contributions of volunteers, dated this first day of October 2024. So we have this proclamation and it was here to receive it. City Manager Martinez. Thank you Mayor. Good evening Mayor. Mayor Pro Temo Council with us tonight is Dean Banner and I believe Dean has some guests as well to receive this. Come on up Dean well, have you say a few words and then afterwards we can get a picture. as well to receive this. Come on up Dean. Well, have you say a few words? And then afterwards we can get a picture. Sounds good. Come on up to Mike. Good evening, Mayor Mills and members of the City Council. I think one indication of the importance of this event is the number of us that are with you tonight. I'd like to introduce the members of our group. First from our local Brighton area organization, I'm Dean Banner, the just serve specialist. To me, Sanders is our communications director. Allison Short is our media specialist. And then we're privileged to have from our greater Denver North area organization to just serve specialists. We have Kelly Lewis and Michelle Stancell. So we're glad to have them here. We are here to recognize the city of Brighton. It's exciting for us to be part of this event. By way of background, just serve as a global platform, which offers organizations the opportunity to register without cost on our just our website listing projects or activities that utilize volunteer help. Now we're aware of some of the great things the city has done over the past embracing and fostering the spirit of volunteerism and service. I'd like to make reference to two or three. First, I have in front of me a copy of a proclamation that the City Council issued last year, designating the month of April 2023 as volunteer month. And that's a great gesture. And so it also liked referred to an activity called Good Clean Fun that goes back a ways. But that was a citywide endeavor to clean up parts of the city, do repairs and maintenance and assist needy homes and families. And then Lake Appreciation Day was a day at Bar Lake. Very importantly are the ongoing and annual help for homes that are hosted by the city and facilitated by Eagle View Adult Center and and certainly I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge the park's department periodically offers a park to organizations or groups that would like to clean up an area, tidy up a park, mulch flower beds, and that kind of thing. These kinds of activities are contagious. And we are so pleased with the number of local, bright and area organizations that have registered on our website and for your interest, I'd like to give an example of just a few. We have Bar Lake State Park. There's the bird sanctuary, not sanctuary, the conservatory. We have Eagle View Delta Center. The Platt Valley Hospital itself has over 100 volunteers that do a variety of duties there at the hospital. There's the Brighton City Police Department and that is registered. Also, Adams County Museum, we have almost home and there are several, several food banks. So that breaks us down to this point. I have a copy, fortunately, of the proclamation just issued by the City Council. It's already signed by Mayor Mills and it memorializes, looking for that word, the city's commitment to the spirit of volunteerism and service. That proclamation renders the city eligible to be designated as a just serve city. One of a growing number of cities throughout the country that have achieved that distinction. So now it's a great pleasure for us to present to the city a framed certificate desingating the city of Brighton, Colorado as a just serve city. And we invite Mayor Mills on behalf of the council and the city to come down and receive this certificate and maybe take a picture. Okay. And that'll include some gift bags of swag items that you can distribute to members of the council. All right. Well, I also have a framed copy of the proclamation for you too. So that would be wonderful. Well, come on down. Well, you're coming. We congratulate the city of Brighton. And we hope your example and influence rubs off on other cities in the area and motivates them to fall asleep. Let's bring some of you over here so we can. Yeah. Here's. There you go. Center. Yeah. There you go. Senator. Do you have you exchanging? Oh, okay. All right. There you go. The heavier frame. The well. We just exchanged. We just exchanged. We just exchanged. You did. John was done. Hold up. Hold us up. Okay. Here we go. Come on in. All right. Thank you. You. In there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's three of those. Okay. You got your hands. Okay. We thank you Mayor and City Council for allowing time on the agenda for our presentation. With your permission, we'll be excused as we're not staying for the balance of your meeting. Thank you. Well, thank you for being here. Thank you for recognizing Brighton as a as a city that serves as a volunteer or volunteer city. So we appreciate the recognition and thank you. Next on the agenda, Colorado applies month proclamation. And I've asked Mayor Proton Padilla to read that into the record. Thank you, Mayor. Colorado applies month. Whereas 90% of Colorado jobs that are sufficient to read that into the record. Thank you, Mayor. Colorado Applies Month. Whereas 90% of Colorado jobs that are sufficient to support a family of three requires some form of post-secondary education. And whereas more than half of Colorado high school graduates won't earn a degree or credential from a traditional post-secondary institution. And whereas we should remind Colorado students that higher education is within their reach and a positive step toward their career and life goals. And whereas we should encourage all high school seniors in Brighton to submit at least one application to a higher education institution and file a free application for federal student aid. And whereas Colorado Applies Month provides resources that help educators inspire a school-wide college and trade school going culture that celebrates the opportunity for post-secondary education. And whereas Colorado Applies Month equips students with web resources that enabled them to apply to college early through my Colorado journey. And whereas on Colorado-free application days, October 15 through 17 2024, applicants who submit their admission application to Colorado's colleges and universities can do so for free. Now therefore, be it resolved, on behalf of Gregory Mills, Mayor of the City of Brighton, and on behalf of the City Council, we proclaim October 2024 as Colorado applies month and encourage all students to submit at least one application. Data is this first day of October 2024. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. City Manager Martinez, who's here to receive this tonight. Thank you, Mayor. Here tonight to receive this is our Manager of Youth Services, Tony Russell. I'm on up Tonya. Hi, good evening, Mayor and council. Thank you so much for your time tonight and thank you for your continued support. I just wanna give you a couple quick facts from Colorado Applies Days in 2023, as we participated in 2023 as well. Over 64,000 applications were received during those free application days from high school seniors, which is a 1% increase over the previous year. and applications were received during those free application days from high school seniors, which is a 1% increase over the previous year. 44% of those applications submitted were done so by students of color, and 34% of those were submitted by first generation college students. So I think that that really speaks volumes to the success of Colorado free applies days and I'm so fortunate that we're able to continue to carve out a path to post secondary success for all the students in our community. So after Colorado applies days, which as mentioned is October 15th through 17th, our U Services Department will be kicking off our growing grads, college and career readiness kind of season. And so that will consist of our growing grads, college and career readiness kind of season. And so that will consist of our growing grads, college and career kickoff, which takes place on October 16th. That'll be over at the Armory from six to eight. We'll invite all the juniors and seniors from School District 27J to common talk to colleges, trade schools, apprenticeships, and scholarships, get free dinner. And really we used to say, figure out, you know, come and figure out what college you want to go to, and we've kind of changed that language. If you want to go to college or you don't want to go to college, come explore steps of what's next for you. And then following that night, we'll have five nights out in the community at the comprehensive high schools and then some community organizations as well where families can come get one-on-one help filling out that crazy financial aid form which has been a beast last year in this year as well. So thank you so much for your support and helping young people get to whatever their next steps are. We'll stay on up and we'll come down and get a picture. All right. So we don't need a vote on this, but looks like Councilmember Fiddler wants to see something. Okay. I think this recognition is actually improved because they're actually saying the words post-secondary and not just pushing college. It wasn't very long ago pushing colleges and universities, which is great for those that are wanting to do that. But there are so many out there that were not ready to do that, that want to go and do another trade or go into something else that helps them develop a skill to sustain life into the future. And having this as a more of a post-secondary accomplishment rather than just a college university, I think is great. So I appreciate that change we've had. So any other comments? All right. Thank you, Tonya. Thank you. I'm going to stay here because I'm next also. Oh, yes. There's another one that I'm sure you're a part of the introduction of the apprentice of peace youth organization. Yes. OK, thank you. Thanks again for your time tonight. I just wanted to, I always appreciate the opportunity to introduce our office new programs that start happening to serve young people in our program. And a partnership with the Princess of Peace use. A Princess of Peace Youth Organization is one of our newest partnerships that we've entered into. So I'm going to call up GC and Cammy now. They're going to join me in telling you a little bit about what the apprentice of Peace Youth Organization is doing. But I'll tell you I had the opportunity to meet team members of this amazing organization that was operating at a Denver just over a year ago and really had a vision that I wanted to bring this to Brighton. So we started and talked about how a participant could serve young people in Brighton and so that's how the partnership was born. And so they have recruited and hosted their first cohort of young people and I won't say much more because I'll steal what they're going to say but we're working quickly on recruiting the second cohort of people. So I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to GC and Cammy but thank you again for taking the time to learn about this new project. Good evening. Thank you for having us. I'm Giancarra Delaura. I go by GC, Delora. And I'm a program coordinator, and I am an apprentice of youth organization. What we have is a two year program that will empower youth through wellness, but also through how to become your best self by following your passion, your talent. And that's what we do. We try to match somehow the talent of the student so we can explore, they can explore some career pathways through our campaign that we have a loss of life, which is leadership, arts, wellness and skill traits. We also try to focus on the family because it's very important for us to create that connection. And with the students also to find and define themselves in this age that did sometimes so hard. So we work with them every week and we try to, like I said, give them some strategies also to be in a better shape as on their wellness, which is so important. We address topics through arts, it can be mental health issues or it can be other topics that sometimes are hard to discuss, but we give that support. I'm saying that. I want to introduce Kami Cox. She's one of the parents of the students that we have had in this cohort at Brighton. Thank you so much. Good evening, everyone. So I have a high schooler in this program. And we've been in it since March. And we've discovered that it's so much more than just an after school activity. And so this would, I think this program would be great for public schoolers as well. It really offers something that you just don't get in school and as parents, we can be busy. It's just another, it's just part of the, it takes a village, you know, this is just another add-on for us. And so I've been pretty impressed with their approach to teaching skills, which GCR already mentioned. So leadership, arts, wellness, and skilled trades. So it's just a really well-rounded program. And the thing that's really important to me is that they provide connections to mentors which can lead to internships, which is just critical for me. And again, this is good for whether your kids are going to go to college or if they're going to go into trades that don't require a bachelor's degree or higher. There are enrichment activities that we've participated in. They've had people come from different career paths, come and speak to the kids and tell them what it's like. So I think there's a lot of value in that as well. And I'm just really grateful for this programming because I don't see anywhere else that puts together all of what they offer anywhere else. So I'm very happy this is available to us. Well, I'll just wrap up. They are meeting in person here. We always have young people in the building on Mondays because we don't have school on Mondays, but they're meeting here in the basement on Mondays from one to three, and then they meet virtually, but if anybody wants to drop by at some point and meet some of our young apprentice of peace program participants, that would be great. Thank you. Wow, thank you. Well, thank you, Tanya and GC, and it was Kami, right? Thank you for introducing us to this, and I think it goes right along with what we just celebrated in the previous item. So appreciate that. Anybody have any comment? Okay. Next, oh, do we have someone? Okay. Next we have item five, which is public invited to be hurt on matters that are not on the agenda. I have two people signed up to speak. First I have Tom Lampo so come on up Tom. Stay your name for the record. You have three minutes. Good to be back here again. I'm Tom Lampo. I'm here to lift up bright and in prayer. So please join me in prayer. Heavenly Father in Jesus Christ's name, we invite you here to brighten, to be with us and to guide us. Brighten as yours and you are always welcome here. We come before you in humility knowing you are God and there is no powers greater than you. Isaiah 43, 13 states, I am God and always will be. No one is able to take anything out of my hand. I do something and who can change it. Your ways are true and just. Help us to understand our humanity and your majesty and holiness. Father, we are living in times like no others throughout history. The uncertainty is great and there are huge consequences. If we trust in what we see, we can get caught up in the chaos of the moment. Change our direction. Help us to focus and trust in your word. He brutes four-twelve states. For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword. It penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Help us find peace and strength in your word as we navigate our lives. Help us not to become weary but to find hope in you. You will be our God and we will be your people. In the precious name of Christ we pray. Amen. Thank you guys and have a nice night. Thank you Tom. The next Mike Boutwell. Come on up Mike. State your name for the record you all three minutes. Mike Boutwell, 353 North 10th Avenue. Right now. I'm going to switch it around. My ballot, well, 353 North-10th Avenue, right? How y'all doing? Last two weeks ago, I presented five points that I want to discuss over the next few weeks, because I don't have enough time to do it in one session. Okay? So my first one is that I'm going to switch it around. I'm not going to address the First Amendment because I know this rules of civil procedure and they don't address time. Okay? Neither does the Constitution or the rest time. So with that said, I'll just leave it alone. I'll deal with the brief amount of time I have, and we'll go from there. My first thing is that I paid $152 for water last month. That's for $12,000 gallons of water. All because I am trying to resurrect a tree. Okay? A tree's's gonna cost me a fortune to keep him from dying. So with that, I look at the RO plant. I look at the fact that we were here in 2018 discussing water to that length discussing water. We had a CPA audit, we had a forensic audit, nothing happened. You know, it was like, also, we should have started this our old plant in 2018. We had plenty of money to start it, but we didn't start it. You know, and now I feel like that I'm paying for something I may not be able to use. And that's why I call it reverse Ponzi scheme. Because the Ponzi scheme means you're using money to pay the new investors with the old money that you got from the other ones, okay? And so that's a reverse type thing. And it gets to the point where I just get frustrated with the way things go. And I am a out of the box thinker, critical thinker, I'm a divergent personality. I think differently than a lot of people do. I look at things with a more in depth definition. And so what I'm going to do over the next few weeks, if I can stand it coming here, because I heard it really bad, I will address some of these issues that I have. And that will include the street signs, everything else, and other issues that I have and that will include the street signs, everything else, and other issues that I have. And observations that I have in this city, it'll all have to do with the city and our society in general. If that's okay. Because we need to have this divergent look at life. Because we don't, we're just complacent, eloy, we're sheeple. We just continue on thinking that what we're doing is the only way to do it. And there's got to be different ways to do things. And so that's where I'm here. That's what I do. I'm an anthropologist who studies human beings. You know, I may be a ranting old man, but I'm still very cogent. And so with that information, I would like to express myself in the three minutes over the next few weeks. And I'm trying to impress upon you that the three minutes is not enough time. Thank you. If you can consider that and change that, that would be great. Thank you, Mr. Boutwell. Great. That's all I have signed up to speak on matters not on the agenda. We'll go on to item 6a a resolution of the City Council. The City of Brighton, Colorado amending certain accounts in the general fund, cemetery fund in cemetery perpetual care fund and appropriating money for expenditures in the amount of $1,079,172 to support grant awards repayment of the Cemetery Fund loan and adjustments to the ongoing projects including trash bash, community identity signs, police department training and blood draw services and increased credit card fees. So first of all, since this is the public hearing, I should have got my checklist down a moment ago. Bear with me. I'll officially open the public hearing, ask if the city clerk can verify all the necessary postings I'm not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're sure if you're not sure if you're Council, if they have any conflicts or interest, conflicts of interest or any exparte communication, which would need to be disclosed at this time. Okay. City Manager Martinez, please identify our presenter today. Thank you, Mayor. Our presenter will be Catherine Mortensen, our Budget Performance Manager. Before Catherine speaks tonight, I will say that I do believe this will be our last budget amendment of the year. So, Catherine will be in front of you more, but this should be the last time we're in front of you talking about this last call. I said May, the last quarter of the year. I said, well, I said May, but we've had a couple of budget amendments in a single quarter in the past, so I don't believe it's going to happen now. I'll turn it over to Catherine. Thank you for that, Michael. Good evening, members of council. So as mentioned, I'm here before you to present the third amendment to our 2024 budget. Quick reminder of what these budget amendments are. We do our best to plan when we create the budget each year for every expenditure that we can foresee in that upcoming year, but of course, some things come up throughout the year. And if sufficient appropriation doesn't exist to cover those, we come back before you and request additional appropriation, which is what we are doing here tonight. The largest item that you see on this budget amendment tonight is due to grants that we've received across several of our departments, which is great news because that's additional revenue and new programs that we're able to support. You'll see them listed on the slide here. I'll go down through them one by one here. The first being the Auto-Thept Prevention Grant with our Victim Services Division. We received a grant for these purposes previously and have been implementing it over the last year. This is a new round of funding that covers staff to implement the program as well as some additional trophies for victims of auto theft. The next one on there is the Office of Violence Against Women Grant. This is a multi-year grant. So this is just a portion that we expect to potentially spend in 2024. This covers a position as well as some training for our police department in some trauma-informed practices. The third item there is our police mental health grant. This is actually one that we get every single year for our police officers to receive counseling services if needed. We are requesting additional appropriation here because we got lucky this year and we got an additional appropriation above and beyond what we typically get. So we do plan for the typical amount in our base budgets, but that difference is what we're asking for here to cover the additional appropriation we received this year. The next one down is a smart grant for additional officers. You may recall that we were adding some officers at the very beginning of this year in January due to this grant. This is actually a new round of funding for the same grant. So there were two officers added early this year. This is two additional officers with a new round of funding. They'll be covered in this grant from October of this year through October of next year, and then we roll them into the general fund. So those positions will continue. The second to last one there is our Brownfield Assessment Grant. This provides some funding from the EPA for us to evaluate the possibility of environmental contamination since some of our buildings. So we're going through that and it will take a few years as well. So you'll see that added to the 2025 and 2026 budgets as well. And then the last one there is a historic structure assessment grant to evaluate our historic senior center. The next grouping that we have here on this budget amendment is for the Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund and the Cemetery Fund. You might recall that from the for the last several years in the budget, we typically budget the Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund at zero. And that is because there was a loan from that fund to our cemetery fund. And we've been waiting to be able to budget more in that perpetual care fund once it had regained some fund balance. The intention with this fund is that we will be able to transfer the interest earnings each year into the cemetery fund to cover maintenance items. At this point, we looked back at how much interest earnings we'd had since that loan was taken out, and it was more than sufficient to cover the entirety of the loan. So what the amount that you'll see here cover is the entirety of the interest earnings from that time period transferred from the Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund to the Cemetery Fund, and then there's a transfer back from the Cemetery Fund into the Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund to the Cemetery Fund. And then there's a transfer back from the Cemetery Fund into the Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund for the entirety of the loan. You'll see the numbers don't match that does leave about $30,000 extra in the Cemetery Fund to support maintenance, as was intended with this fund. And moving forward, we're going to keep budgeting last year's interest earnings to be spent in the Cemetery Fund on maintenance. We do have to budget both of those just to show that the loan amount was received and then paid off. And the last grouping you'll see here is for some additional projects, some ongoing projects actually that we have each year that have seen some additional expenses this year. First of which, being credit card fees at our recreation center, they implemented a new software and that makes it a lot easier for online reservations to be made, which allows people to pay with credit cards more easily. Because of this, we've seen an increase in credit card payments and therefore an increase in our payment of those fees. Those fees are actually paid by the individual reserving the space, so we do have the revenue to back those items and we expect that increase to continue that covers the amount for this year. The next one you'll see is an additional day for trash bash back in our spring round of trash bash. There was some bad weather on one of the days. So we did add an additional day and with each additional day there's some additional cost to that. So we've added that now that we've done both rounds of trash bash this year to cover those days. The next one down there is our community identity sign engineering. This just allows us to have the design engineering done for those signs that you guys have seen previously so that when we're ready to go ahead and install we've got all of that work prepared for us. And the last one there is police academy training costs. This is another one of those costs that we expect a certain amount each year. Some years there's some additional hiring in the police department and that requires additional fees to send officers through that police academy with the additional officers that we added earlier on this year and just a higher than average hiring year. We have seen an increase in cost there. So we're requesting that that be added in this budget amendment as well. With that, you'll see on this slide just those final numbers of what our current budget is for each fund, the amendment, and then the amended budgets. And the action requested is approval of the third amendment to the 24 budget, which brings our total city budget for 2024 to about $309 million. And I will turn it back over to you, Mayor, for any questions. Still a lot of money. This is normally the time when I ask if the applicant wouldn't add anything, but where the applicant? So if there's anybody sign with a speech for public comment, I don't see any but if they want to there are sign up sheets in the back you have three minutes See I'd like to ask city clerk if there's anybody That had any correspondence or any emails received on to comment on this item. No, you're on okay Questions and comments from council If there are none, I will close the public hearing. This item is before Council for consideration. Mayor Broteham. Thank you. I'll move item 6A. That's a member worth. I'll second that motion. The motion to move item 6A. There's no other discussion. Roll call vote. the motion passes eight to zero with one absent. Thank you. Thank you, Catherine. Moving ahead, item eight, a and ordinance of the city council. The city of Brighton, Colorado approving the sale of. At sale and conveyance of certain city owned property or city own City of Brighton, Colorado, have proven the sale of, as sale and conveyance of certain city-owned property or city-owned real property and authorizing the city manager to execute and deliver the deed and any documents associated with the sale. City Manager Martinez. Thanks, Mayor. This is a final reading. Staff is available for questions, but we don't have anything additional to present. Okay. available for questions but we don't have anything additional to present. Okay, this is just a follow-up from Previs vote. If there's no other questions, entertain a motion. Let's remember Plowsky. 8A, yes. That's a member Fiddler. Thank you mayor. I'll second. There's a first and second to approve 8 a. If there's no other discussion, roll call vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. One absent. Thank you. I was left in speechless. Next item 9a, a resolution of the City Council, the City of Brighton, Colorado, approving the compensation plan for city employees and authorizing the use of 98% market rate comparison for midpoint structuring of employee salary ranges and establishing comparison jurisdictions. City Manager Martinez. Thank you Mayor. Here tonight to present this item is our Director of Human Resources, Kevin Young. Director Young. Good evening Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem, Council members. This item tonight is to update resolution 2000-74 was resigned in July 6, 2004. Briefly set by Council to oversee the obtaining and retaining of competitive employees as a priority for the city brighten. The main focus really was to go ahead and make sure that our priority of obtaining and retaining competitive employees was at the highest level, but also to re-evaluate the city's salary plan to establish jurisdictions that are comparison and to set the market rate at 100% and to also make sure that we were authorizing specific just jurisdictions to be used as salaries for employees. The background for this, this resolution is in armance municipal charter section 7.3J, which basically gives a responsibility to the city manager for administration of compensation and benefit plans, which are then provided to Council for approval under the budget. So tonight, we are asking to rescind resolution 2004-74. Establish a new compensation jurisdictions for 24, which will be Coma City, Thornton, Longmont, Loveland, Westminster, and alternative cities and counties of Brunefield and Adams County. Use the 98% of market rate for our bid point salary ranges and authorize the city manager to adjust comparison jurisdictions as necessary moving forward. At this time, I'm available for any questions that you may have. Thank you, Director Young. Questions, Council Member Johnston. Thank you, Mayor. So we're trained lower at 98% and it's at 100% right now. It's at 100% right now. It's at 100% right now. We're moving it down to 98%. Why are we trying to pair employees less? I'll answer that if I may, Mayor. City manager. Council member John Sonnell meant I'll answer that. So when we're looking at total compensation, which is kind of the key, what we've noticed is, when we're comparing to 100% that kind of throws our compensation out of whack and mind you This is arranged so the 98% since the midpoint of our ranges But we look at total compensation our total compensation is significantly better than our competing jurisdictions that you see here so in order to make sure that we can come in still within budget from a salary perspective. We've decided that 98% at midpoint kind of meets exactly where we need to meet for our employees. We're not necessarily paying them any less. We're just setting a separate midpoint from 100% to 98%. But we do market rate adjustments every year that gets our employees back in range with the market. So in essence, I mean, you can look at it like we're comping to 98% of the market study that we do, but ultimately with our total benefits compensation, they're receiving my opinion. And it's not necessarily my opinion. If you look at the studies that we've done, we're actually paying our employees more than our competing jurisdictions. Yeah, and I mean, I respect that thought process in certain ways, but you're asking to be able to make sure that we have the right to be able to be able to make sure that we are getting jurisdictions. Yeah, and I mean, I respect that thought process in certain ways, but you're asking us to pay our employees less and especially and this includes our police department. Included in our police. Correct. Okay, I'm not going to vote to pay our police department less and be able to recruit less police officers because if we do go down, I went and I looked at the other previous new comparison jurisdictions in comparison to the previous ones. And while benefits are great, pay is what matters. I have a brother-in-law that's a police officer right now. He just is able, after seven years saving money to actually buy a home. And I don't want the police officers to come here in a bright and get paid a little less and say, don't worry, we got a great insurance plan. That's like saying, we'll have a pizza party, don't worry. No, I'm over it. This is why I would love to unionize our entire staff because of things like this. So if you all want to pay the police officers less or recruit other officers until them don't worry our benefits program is great, good for all y'all. I'm definitely a no thanks. Cindy manager Martinez. Thank you Mayor. I will also mention that this is kind of a benchmark that most cities do including many of the cities that we have listed under our new comparison jurisdictions. I know for a fact that the city of Thornton also benchmarks to 98% is all a few others. So we are in line with what other cities are doing in terms of benchmarking. Thank you, any other comment? Councilmember Mayor Potem. Thank you. Is setting the midpoint for the band for comparison purposes, the same thing as producing hiring salaries by 2%. Director Young, city manager, who's someone? Is it the say that again? Is the 98% of market rate as the midpoint of our salary bands, the equivalent of reducing our hiring salaries by 2%. I would say no, because I think when we hire our employees, we're hiring them based upon the salary range that's within that job description. So market rate of 98 is only effective during the time that we do our market analysis every year. So when you establish bands, bottom level for the band, midpoint for the band, and top level for the band, and you're using 98% of the current market rate. You're setting the midpoint of the band using that? Yes, correct. So that doesn't have a direct impact. I don't know, does that have a direct impact on first existing employees compensation? Yes. Okay. So you would. What is the impact on existing employees compensation? So every year we do a market analysis on every job description. And that a part of that process is to to ensure that we are within that ban, but we're coming in at 98% for the budget. So for budget purposes. So if you're looking at it as we are taking 2% away for each employee, we're not really doing that because they're going to get paid based upon their qualifications, their responsibilities within that job description. So the band is set by that, but they're employee piece of it as far as what they're hired when they take the job is based upon their experiences and their responsibility. Right. So you can hire people at higher than the midpoint on the band. Yes, we can. You can hire people below the midpoint on the band. Yes, we can. You can hire people below the midpoint on the ban. Right. Can you hire people outside of the ban? No. OK. If somebody is already paid a certain amount of money and next year's survey for, say, the direct of communications job comes in and says 98% is half of what we currently pay our director of communications. Do you reduce your salary to match the market rate? We don't ever reduce anybody's salary, but we do adjust up. So we're always adjusted up, but we never adjust down. So an individual in that scenario would basically stay at that salary until the band actually catches up with the salary. If we discover that we are underpaying that role by 50% when we get to that market rate adjustment, do we make a market rate adjustment up of a significant percentage then to catch up to the market? Right. And that's part of what% of the market rate and you're hiring a new police officer who has offers from multiple jurisdictions because everybody is fighting to keep and retain and hire police officers, do you give a non-competitive offer to that applicant? I would say that that is based upon that in that case that scenario, police chief would make that choice as far as where in the band that they would bring those police officers in. But they have a would have flexibility of the full band to do so. Okay, can you tell us? I believe I heard reference that 98% may have been the city manager. The 98% of market rate is a common benchmark for that. Can you tell us who else uses 98%? Oh my cannot. City manager Martinez again, I know the city of Thornton does as we were doing research that was one of the cities that I Confirmed did it I do believe commerce city. I'm I may be mistaken, but I do believe commerce city also does that as well Somebody more expert than I have a mindset. I haven't have a spreadsheet where we actually pulled this together So I can tell you that from when we pulled the city of Commerce City as well as Thornton did 98% West Minster did as well and North Glen did 96%. Okay, so again we're using a percentage of the current market rate to establish the midpoint. It's not the target hiring point unless the market point unless the midpoint is our target hiring. No point. Okay, so I'll leave it to people whether they want to interpret this set of answers to all of those things, meaning that we are trying to reduce our salaries or reduce the competitiveness of the salaries, but that's not the conclusion I draw from the answers to the questions. Thanks. Right, next, um, since we're going to go to Councilmember Fiddler next and then we'll go back to Councilmember Dunston. I cannot want to assume anything, but my assumption is, city employees will benefit by the new comparison jurisdictions because they're all paying better than the previous group. Correct. The old group that we had was set at that time, which of course was back in 2004, under the new set of reviews that we did, we're more in line with the new jurisdictions. Some supervisual. So that comparison group is going to shift everyone to the right, to the better. It's their larger cities, their large municipalities, that whole comparison group was probably not a benefit to the city employees as they're trying to be compared to like folks. Yeah, right. Now, some of your Johnston. Oh, no comment. All right, any other comment? I see this as something where they're going to get actually better pay is how this is interpreted. So I don't see any reason to vote no on this. I did an entertainer motion. Some member today. I will move. If somebody will help me. 9A. There it is. Yep, 9A. That's a member Fiddler. Thank you, Mayor Allsegund. We have a first and second to approve 9A. There's no other discussion. We'll call vote. Motion passes 7 to 1 and 1 absent. Thank you. the motion passes seven to one and one absent. Thank you. Next item 11 a. Brighton fire fee proposal discussion. City manager Martinez. Thank you mayor. So you will have noticed in your mailbox that you received a letter from the Brighton Fire District dated September 12th, 2024. Within that letter, the fire district is proposing to potentially raise their impact fees. In that letter, it also includes what those impact fees will be. The, in discussions with the fire chief, we thought it would be good for you to get some context behind the letter so that you're aware of those decisions and potentially how it may affect the city and the fire district. So tonight I've asked Chief Garrison to just give us a brief overview of the potential impact fees and answer some questions. So with that, I'll turn it over to the chief. Chief Garrison. Hi, everybody. Mayor Brotem, Council, City Manager. Of course, thanks for everything what you do for the city. Sorry, I'll be happy to answer any questions that you might have about the letter. So maybe I'll just preface it. Legislation passed this year where the fire districts in the state can propose impact fees outside of an association or agreement with the city or county. So that's something that's new or changed. I don't know if anyone's aware of that change, which is why you receive the letter. And then we had a recent study done on an outside group on what those impact fees should look like since we first started them about six coming up on seven years ago. With that, I'll just take questions unless there's specifics you want me to start talking to. So, before we go on, Chief, did you say that there was like an independent study that came up with these figures that were before us here? Correct. This was actually the same group that did our study. I think it was in 2018. I wasn't here at the time, we're part of that study. The name of the group is called BBC Research and Consulting. They're also doing impact fee studies for a lot of the neighboring fire districts as well. I don't know if they're doing them for the cities or not, but I can share the jurisdictions just to the south or are doing it with the same company. So other jurisdictions are using the same company or companies like it to reassess what their impact fees will be in the future. That is correct. Can we have a copy of that? I can give you a copy of ours. Whatever that study is, that can be public. Yes, I can give you a copy of ours. Whatever that study is that can be public? Yes, I can give you a copy of ours. Okay. I provided that to Marv as well. I'm going to make it to the city manager or not. But I can certainly provide the study. Yeah, we'd appreciate that. That would be helpful in some of the questions people Thank you. Thanks, Chief. Having just gotten this today, I'm trying to look at the new fees, look at the existing fees. And I guess my first question is, is there an explanation from the consulting firm on why in six years the increases are so significant from where they were set? Yeah, a lot of it has to do with the values that have changed in the community. And six years, the increases are so significant from where they were set. Yeah, a lot of it has to do with the values that have changed in the community. So it's in the study and I apologize. This is not an area of expertise that I have, but I can provide it to you so that you can see how they base the fees. And if you look at it, and I know that you're probably just quickly looking at it. So this is a preliminary discussion. I'm happy to come back for more. But if you look on page and I'm just looking for it quickly here. Section 2 page 4 breaks down all the buildings inside the district and it associates a fee with them. It creates a percentage of what that would look like for impact fees and then it comes out with the total amount of how they assess the impact fees. And I apologize, I'm kind of butchering this. So. Well, I've got a couple of them. I can ask some specific questions if that helps. Because we just looked at impact fees ourselves over the course of the summer. And we looked at what we were charging and we have a requirement or a value as a council and as a city to have new development pay for itself as much as possible. And we realized that our impact fees were not covering all of the costs that were up front. And in home development, we increased our fees by about, well, actually, they will double for single family homes and nearly double for multi-family homes. But we spread that over multiple years in order to keep that from happening. Are you looking at doing a one-time doubling of single-family homes and an increase of about 50% of multi-family homes? That's the proposal. We didn't consider spreading it out over years. I'm happy to have that discussion. What I was looking at is taking the recommendation of the study and implementing that as just as we did the first time. This is. I'm just looking at the the sticker shock people are having associated with housing at the moment and adding between our increase and the fire district increase, adding $13,000 for the fees to new homes, is adding a significant cost of nearly 5% to new homes. That's not insignificant to them and it's not insignificant to the ability to develop in the community. So I'm certainly looking at that as a means of having a negative impact on community development. So increasing the fee on no new homes doesn't do much to actually increase the money that you have coming in. So I'm worried a little bit about that. I am much, much more worried about the fact that the fee increase for industrial and warehouse, which you seem to have combined in this study, is a thousand percent increase. Just to be clear, I didn't combine it. That's the study you're doing that. That's not me doing it. Well, it came to us from the fire department. It certainly didn't come randomly to us. It's what they gave to you. You passed it through to us. Correct. What I'm just clarifying is, as the fire chief, I'm not saying these are the fees we should charge, raising an outside company to help make that determination. And I agree with you. category were before they were broken out separately. I think it's the point. Just to realize that from our viewpoint, you are the conduit. Therefore you're the person who's telling us you're intending to make an increase and you're looking to see what that impact may be. A thousand percent increase in industrial impact fees is again really, really significant to where we're looking at the potential of $400,000 increase in fees, just fees, not any other construction costs for the most recently built industrial building in Brighton. $400,000 fee increase means they probably would not have built that in Brighton. So that has a direct economic impact on the community if that were to happen. Now again, where the City Council was looking at the city-charged impact fees earlier this year, we actually chose to increase commercial, office, industrial, and warehouse. We looked at each of those building types separately because the kind of our fees don't quite cover all of what's there because again, charging an existing fee and having economic development is a net positive for the community making the fee usurious or increasing it by 1,000% and cutting off all development got us zero or nets us zero and nets us a negative growth environment and puts that same development in Comer City or North-Earn North-Glen or Hudson or anywhere except Brighton with the idea of an extra $500,000 of impact fee. So I'm very worried about the degree to which which is happens and the attack with a rusty saw as opposed to a scalpel to looking how to implement them, that's frightening to me. I will also say that as a community that's very worried about affordable housing and trying to figure out how to encourage affordable housing, increasing the cost of multi-family development and single-family development without any documentation for waivers for affordable housing means that you're also looking at driving up the costs of affordable housing which is certainly very much at risk in the community. So I would certainly look for how can we be partners to the community and make decisions to collect fees that do work towards covering your costs, but don't suddenly double the cost of coming to this community or increase by a thousand fold the cost of coming into the community. So I'm going to make an ask for staff that others can either chime in on or leave alone. But I'm going to ask our staff to prepare a response with the impacts to the community and make sure that that comes before us in resolution and time to send because there just is no way that I can see that it would be responsible for us to sign the letter that was sent saying, oh, we don't wish to make comments, everything is fine. Everything's not fine. We need to figure out how to do what's right for our fire department, but this blanket increase without a whole lot of information behind it is not the right thing. So I'll ask our staff to work with the study, work with the letter and do some analysis of the impact and put together something for a comment for us because as much as I want to support you and I know how expensive it is to do the work that you're doing, this could kill development in the community and that's frightening to me. Thanks. Just a quick point and I know you're not asking about other fire districts but the fire district just to our south will be at 61 cents for that same square footage. They've already approved that in that district. I don't have every fire district, but right now it looks like the lowest I could find anywhere was at 18 cents per square foot for the industrial commercial with mostly being the average at about 40 cents. So we're just significantly below the average. Excellent. Then I understand the need to catch up to the average and recognize that that is part of the competitive landscape in which we'd be operating. But I think that 61 cent item would be much more interesting in the context of is that all non-commercial? Or is that warehouse? Is that I'm sorry all non-residential? Or is it segmented in some fashion? And when did it get to that 61 cents and from what number did it get to that? Because if it went from 58 cents to 61 cents, then it wasn't much of an impact. If they went from 6 cents to 61 cents, then they also had a thousand percent impact and maybe that's just the nature of the beast. Well, I think no matter what, we'll find a way to partner for the city. So it's going to be fine. I would certainly hope so. So again, I'll ask staff to put that together. Thanks. Let's go to ask. Councilmember Johnston. Thank you, Mayor. First of all, thank you for your service. I hope you know the mayor pro tem doesn't speak for me or the rest of the city. I felt like a lot of that was a bit disrespectful to your position. So what I want to do is I don't know if you're aware, but right before you came up here, we're all handed a letter from our city manager with an email exchange that happened between a couple of staff members. And it's pretty much telling us why we should not do this. So I'm going to come hand this to you so you can look. I took a picture of it. Sure. I'm going to do my best to do this without classes on. So you can feel free to read it at another time. But a lot of the comments just said from our mayor pro tem came directly from that letter. I haven't seen the study. Mayor pro tem hasn't seen the study. The rest of city council has. What we've seen now is a half interpretation of the study from our city staff and a letter from you and your department. So what I'd like to do is see about this study being really looked into because saying there's a thousand percent or a thousand increase on this, I'd like to see if that's true because the range is, it doesn't seem like that's that's actual. I'd like to see the study and really go into this and look into this more. And I'd also like to ask that we're not aimed to view things from one perspective on on City Council. I've seen this happen in the past and I'd like to see both perspectives of things, not have a preconceived notion with comments and questions written into us and handed to us right before meeting. And I really do want you to read that and see if anything in there is not true from your perspective because I'd like to do this at another time because it feels like not only are we unprepared to make any judgment or decision on this, but that our city staff and our fire department who does more for our city than most entities can or will including this council. And so I'd like to really be clear that we don't know what we're talking about up here. And I'd like us to not lecture people that are actually serving in a calling. Definitely appreciate the support. And I see the letter and I see some of the numbers you're speaking of where you're talking about a $374,000 expense on one side and $32,000 and the other netting I'm not sure if you're speaking of where you're talking about a $374,000 expense on one side and $32,000 and the other netting a $340,000. I heard $500,000 so that was a little confusing to me. But I see where you're gathering those numbers. I will share with you that we always consider the impact to the community and decision that we have. I'll just share a little bit of background with the Council too that may also help. This challenge that every fire district is going to face and other districts due to some legislative changes in the past year, which are good things to help serve our community and reduce the tax burden on our taxpayers. It will reduce the funding of your fire department as we move forward. That will happen in a few different ways. Your fire department cannot grow past 5.25% growth in any given year. You're going to see a 2% reduction in the commercial assessment rates in the next three years. It's going to start next year, so two years from now. You'll see a reduction in the residential assessment rates to reduce the property taxes that people are paying. You'll see a reduction in the home values by another 20,000 to reduce them by 70 and an additional 100,000 for our folks that are over 55. Those are all state legislative changes that just happened in the last special session and impact every organization at Title 32, slightly different for the school districts. There was a different set of criteria for the school districts. But all other special districts will be impacted and their funding will be reduced in the intent and help for trying to reduce people's property tax burden. So when that's happening as a fire district, we are trying to help prepare for this community's future growth. An impact fees can only go to things that we do not currently have and that we would need because the city is growing. So we're responding to the impact of these businesses and residences coming to the community. And in doing so requires additional people, additional fire stations, our training center, which is in progress right now. The relocation of another fire station. And apparatus that is more than doubled in the last three years in cost. So I understand the concerns and the passion that people bring and how that comes out. I'm okay with either way. I've been in fires before, so it's not too hot in here. So a little bit of fire humor. I just roll my flaps down in here and listen and I'm happy to have the discussion. But I will share with you that we are under a little bit of a challenge to figure out how best to fund the future of the fire department. At the same time I understand the city's concern and need to make sure that we're doing things that bring businesses and growing opportunities to our communities. So I'm always happy to listen and find a partnership to collaborate and move forward with. So from those perspectives, I appreciate what you're sharing. What I will share with the council is our study. So you can at least read that. I will gather as many other studies as I can from other neighboring districts, fire districts, because I have those relationships and it would be easy to share that with you so you can see what the impact will look like around us This is very new to weld county because in the past no fire district could charge an impact fee in weld county However, that has changed and you will probably see just about every fire district in weld county starting to look how they were going to assess their impact fees likely using the same group to do the study So it will be changing the landscape around us on how these impact fees are being charged through special districts. And I know it's challenging, and I'm with all of you. I hate the additional cost to our citizens. But I am trying to meet a need of making sure that we can provide those emergency service to everybody in a time that can make a difference and impact in their emergency. So it's a challenge to make sure the funding's there and also make sure we meet the needs of the community but I'm happy to continue to work together to do that. Thanks for sharing the document. I'll read it at an opportunity here so thank you. But I'm happy to answer other questions and I hope you understand a little bit of the background of why the change and I don't know how we got here in the very beginning. I think what we started with was a very, very, very conservative approach to those impact fees at that particular day. Six years later, and this wouldn't actually take place to hold to the seventh year, we've seen zero change over the last seven years. So if this had been incrementally increasing over the last seven years, it probably wouldn't seem as impactful. So I think it's just something where, without any change or move in over seven years, we've had a great opportunity to receive some impact fees and not make an impact. But as the legislative arena has changed and changed our funding, we're looking for ways to make sure that we can support the fire department moving forward. I'm with all of you. I don't like fees. I'd rather not charge them. I'd rather just we do what we do and keep the altruistic component of the fire department. I also have to make sure we have everybody taking care of through the process of funding it. So anyway, that's pretty much a rant. Sorry for everyone that's had a wait for some of the audience. But we got more questions to comment. We got city manager Martinez. Thank you, Mayor. I just want to make a few clarifications. So I did ask the chief to speak at a study session, but due to some scheduling issues, chief couldn't make it. So we're here tonight. So I apologize for the fact that we don't have an opportunity to do this in study session, which is typically where we would do this. But tonight was the only night that the chief was available prior to the next fire board meeting where they will be voting on this. So we felt like it was important to get in front of you and have the chief in front of you to answer questions when he could, which again, this is the only opportunity that he can do that. So, I just wanted to mention that. I should have mentioned that in the beginning. I personally haven't seen the study either. I haven't had a copy of it, so I can't speak to the study. But what I will say, to council. Basically, this afternoon or this morning, I asked for staff to put the other quick, a quick little comparison of a current building that we have in Brighton and look at the fees that were proposed in the letter versus today's fees. It was a simple comparison, which is what you see in front of you. The point of that was not to persuade you or dissuade you one way or the other. It's just to give you an accurate comparison of how the days fees look versus what the next fees might look like. So, I hope that it's not meant to be anything more than just accurate information. I will say that I did talk to Chief before the meeting as well, and I did mention to him that we were having the discussion, and I did mention the amounts that are in here as well. So it's not that chief wasn't aware of it. I did mention it to him as well. Just wanted to point those out. And if we're, we have a timeline, but we can certainly postpone the decision until we all come to consensus. So we have time. There's no pressing urgency to do this. And I will say that chief and I have very good rapport. We meet a lot and the goal is to find common ground, right? I want you as counsel to have as much information as possible to always make the most informed decisions for the betterment of this community. That's the intention and Chief and I will continue to do that and find common ground. Councilmember Snider. Thank you, Mayor. Good to see you, Chief. Thanks for being here for us. As you're aware, I have a son and two grandsons in your field. I don't want them to show up at a fire within proper equipment. I don't want them to be in that day. Your job is dangerous enough. So I appreciate what you do. And nobody likes fees. I don't like fees. I've never met a person that said, give me some more fees. But you do have to pay for the equipment. My request of you is pretty simple. First of all, have the people that did the study take a look at what it would cost if the development stopped. Where would you get the money for equipment at that point? If the fees are so high that it impedes development, what would that cost be? And also, as has been said, we were kind of gentle. We had to raise our impact fees. We can't build the roads we need. We can't do the infrastructure we need. We have to do it. So do you, I get it. But we incremented it over a couple of years, so we weren't lapping people's heads up. So if you could have a conversation about that, I would appreciate it. But thank you for everything you do. I understand you're going to have to do something and using like a reasonable man to me, I think you'll make it as gentle on as possible. And I appreciate that. You bet. Thank you. That's good great suggestion so we're happy to take that under advisement and have the discussion. Next Council Member Fiddler. Good evening Chief. Isn't it funny how everyone likes services but they don't like to pay for them? So I want to be clear about process right? So I appreciate you being here in the end. Your letter states that the council has a chance to make a decision on what they'd like to share or not share, right? To your board's meeting, at which time, they can do whatever they want, regardless of what this council offers at a public hearing, is that correct? That is accurate, but we also firmly believe in collaboration first. So. But I just want to set the stage, right? In the end, the new legislation gives you the opportunity, it gives your board the opportunity to set those fees. I would concur that seven years, I'll raise in the fees, makes that a big jump, but you've got to figure that out with you and your board. And the other tasty bit is I was reading that legislation to get caught up, you can now go out and seek a sales tax increase to support your services. 100% that is fantastic news for you. It is great news I think in many communities. Sales tax in Brighton is a lot for some people. I know but it's a different avenue than a millevee increase. 100% 100% 100% I appreciate you have thanks for being here but you're trying to say in the end your fire board is going to make a decision that will best serve your department. We can comment on that. We can like it, dislike it, but in the end, that's between you and your board. Correct, it is under their purview to make the decision, but the board very much cares about the partnership. Us do I, so we wanna make sure that, and I apologize, and is usually uncommon, so, but we'll work through it, but thank you for that. Next, Council Member Polowski. Thank you, Mayor. Down on the main street at the cross station there, you've had a sign up for some time that says that in 2023, you went to over 7,800 situations. I don't even know. Call for service. Okay, but can you tell me, like that's an average of 20 a day. Can you tell me what typically that covers? So it's pretty close to 30 calls a day. I'm not doing the math in my head, but that's about what we're running right now. It's pretty close to 30 calls for day. Those calls for service range from all parts of the fire district from Todd Creek, all the way out to Great Rock. So we're in the city, but we also cover the area outside of the city. But it's not fires necessarily. No fires, about 70% of our call volume is for emergency services, So the medical response. So in the past, Platt Valley would be the partner that would respond with their ambulances and their paramedic staff. That's now all inside the fire department, which was the Mill Levy increase we asked for in November of 2022 to pay for all that part, the additional folks and the infrastructure. So we do a significant amount of fires, but you're right, the majority of it is other things, mostly a lot of EMS work. Well, I appreciate that, but I just think people should understand what kind of things you do deal with. And just a quick point, an ambulance costs about 350,000, it's about 150,000 to upfit, it's about a half million dollar investment per medic unit that you see on the phone. That's just the equipment, it's about $1.2 million to staff it annually to do that. Then the good news is we can bill for that service, we bill at about $1,200, which is about half the cost of most other districts. The other great news is we usually receive about 33% reimbursement. So we get about $300 back for that billing. I say that as a joke because we build 1200 and only receive $300. If we were receiving the full amount, that's just the way the medical system works. There's no, that's just part of that part of that process. But the good news is a lot of the reimbursements help pay for the labor costs. So we're still trying to get the infrastructural cost, the Medicaid units themselves around $500,000. Next year specifically, impact fees will pay for two more Medicaid units to be put into our service and to our community. So. Well, I appreciate that. And just to kind of understand when you drive through our community, if you get out and drive all the way around, you'll see the many structures that are in progress. That's only going to add to your situations that come up from time to time. And so that growth, obviously, you're going to get more from the growth, but at the same time, it's going to cause more emergency or whatever types of situations that come up. So yeah, I appreciate that information. Thank you. Just even another point to you know you'll see our brush trucks those are the trucks that fight the wildland fires or wildfires. You know we send them all across the state as needed. We send them to other communities when they're in need. That's a whole other outfit of what we do. Those particular pieces of equipment are about 200 to $300,000 to set them up. There's a whole other level of staffing required for our wildland folks. So there's a lot of ground that we cover and emergency we're prepared for. The impact fees help cover those impacts, those costs of doing those things. The other side of that is with the legislative changes we're just seeing reduces, we'll see reductions in funding. So that's just that's the challenge we face. Right. I appreciate the support from all of you by the way. So thank you. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you. Again, the challenges in the questions were not intended to be disrespectful. So I hope that that wasn't taken. It's just, I had a couple of things that drew some strong response. A thousand percent increase in a fee is significant. It means that either we really, really misjudged seven years ago or were gauging that impact differently today. I thought I'd explain the math. The $374,846.64 in the memo from staff, I added to our current city impact fee of 222,000 for that building, which would come to $597,581. I did that math on my own, but so I don't't gauge for a taxi or see, but I'm talking about the total set of impact fees to a building where actually yours would be nearly twice what the city's impact is. So looking at it to say doesn't industrial warehouse of 543,000 square feet impact the fire department at twice the impact to the rest of the entire city. That it doesn't pass a smell test, is that accurate? The other reason I had some strength to my concern here is that the timing in the letter that we have from the fire department says that the fire department Board will make this decision on November 13th. That gives us very, very little time. We don't have the time to study your study and have a long conversation and lots of back and forth feedback. We have a letter that says, hey, sign here or give us your objection in time for our November 13th meeting. So that is the piece to me that doesn't strike me as a Collaborative conversation. That's a here's what we intend to do and what we're going to put in front of our board Here's your one and only opportunity to do anything about it. We can't do anything about it. We can't change that board All we can do is Suggest what the impact of the changes would be and how we view that. No, no disrespect taken from your first start of your conversation. So I appreciate that. But you can do what you're doing right now and I'm happy to share that with the board and you can make that impact through through our discussion. So I'm happy to take that back. And if it was appropriate, I would ask the board to postpone the decision by a month to the next, for the following board, meaning to make sure that all of this is working. The number of unanswered questions and potential impacts may be pretty significant. And perhaps a little bit more time would be warranted, but that would be up to you. The other piece that we did with our impact fees, again, because we hadn't changed them in a significant amount of time. So I pulled up the information from those meetings is that we actually tied those impact fees in the future to some rates for inflation to CPI so that we wouldn't have to come back to the table a number of times we would have a measure to continue to look at that and see what those fees should be at. So instead of coming back every seven years with a 1,000 percent increase, maybe looking at setting them to an index so that we don't have that kind of sticker shock every so often. Again, in this case, with impact fees, we're looking at what does it take to come into the community? It doesn't have a direct impact on the people who are already here. That's the Nilevie, that's the sales tax opportunity. But one of the things that does impact the city, and I don't know if it impacts the fire district or not is that we can't charge existing people for what it costs for something new to come in but we also can't charge the new people for what it takes to run something that's serving the entirety of the community. So when we looked at how to break down how to pay for our water treatment plant we had to analyze what of that new volume was servicing new employees, new residents versus what was continuing to operate and serve the existing residents, and we had to charge them appropriately. So again, looking at impact fees that you suddenly have control over against a number of other funding sources, that's at least a question worth asking is how much of that cost of running that truck can be put only on the new residents. With impact fees it has to be something that's an addition to the community. So that would be an additional medic unit that we don't have not replacing a current met. And don't need until you have the new part of the community. Yeah, that's what drives it. So those are just things to keep in mind. But that's what drives it. So those are just things to keep in mind but that's that's where I think enough time to have that conversation and not something where we've got one opportunity in a city council meeting and this is our only opportunity for common to engagement and again we each speak only for our our selves or for the people who us. We don't speak on behalf of the city. That's where we depend on staff and that's where we got the report today. They said, Hey, here's a couple of those places that those impacts would hit. So again, I'd still ask staff to put together the report that it did earlier. And then hopefully we can have a little bit more time to go back and forth on this. And one other point to just I was talking about another jurisdiction nearby. They went from 30 cents up to 61 cents and I had to explain to you they were at 61, but I didn't explain to you where they came from. So even in that jurisdiction from 30 to 60 is still a significant increase. So I think part of it is I like what you're talking about is attaching something to it so that it's kind of just perpetually moving itself forward It's a great recommendation and since the city's already built that I'm gonna steal and say I did it so Next counts a member worth Thank you mayor and thanks for coming chief. I appreciate it. I've had a lot of good conversation about that I think one of the things that really jumps out of me is that, I mean, it's kind of said that while we raise our prices that much nobody will come and build here anymore. On the other hand, if we're competitive with other nearby districts and they want something in this area, they're going to build here or there or wherever's the best. So I think being competitive is important to cover our costs on ever your costs, the fire districts costs on this. So if it really makes me look at that six cents per square foot that it was before and think maybe that's a mistake. And so if we were giving it away for free, which really isn't that much a difference, to all of a sudden charging of fee, well, now we've got an infinite percent increase. And so I just think it's important to be competitive. I really, I agree with Mayor Pro Tem about the combining of the different kind of commercial properties. Obviously, I mean, you go into industrial versus other commercial types, and there's different risk with each one. So I really would love to see the study that was done and see the justification for combining those. Because in my mind, I'm simple. I have a job, but it just doesn't make any sense at all. So and I would agree that if it would be possible, because there are plenty of questions that are coming up just at our group, I imagine it's going to affect others as well. But I don't think the impact in other areas is seen as such, is so big because everyone's making these changes and everyone's having these conversations. And I'm only happy to speak with everybody here. have an ease of conversation. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I wouldn't hurt my feelings to postpone that. We had a little bit more time to digest it. We put some cohesive thoughts together and really have that conversation back and forth. Thank you. Appreciate the wisdom of the entire council and sharing these perspectives. I'm happy to take them back and have the discussion with our board. I will work with the staff. And I appreciate City Manager Martinez giving me the invite to come down tonight and speak with you. Like you said, it might be a little more formal than we'd expected. But I think at least we've had some great discussion and we'll take that back. And we'll provide some more information to the group as well. Just a quick note. We just want to excuse Councilmember Johnson to attend to an emergency. Chief, we really appreciate you coming down here. Come in here. Every Tuesday, you're welcome. We won't always put you in the line of fire, but it's not meant to put you in the line of fire, though. There are just some, like what was mentioned by everyone, there's just some facts before us, and we need to be able to based on the facts in front of us just defend how it's going to impact the city the development future and so on. I would hope that in I know it's you know I don't have any control over that nobody here this diocese control over this but I would hope that your board would consider delaying this vote and working with the city, working with any of your entities that you service and talk about the impacts that this will have. I mean, I know Adams County's a big part of this as well and just work with them and find a find a solution Of course the impact fees are going to increase. I get that. I don't have to like it But something like this what's you know before us It's pretty significant. It's really gonna I mean it could really hurt a lot of positive development for our city and positive Yeah, anyway, so if you could find a time to do that I know we squeezed you and now come back at a future time to Discuss with us how how this is gonna how maybe a new proposed impact fee table will be put out based on the inputs of our staff, you know, Adams County, all your entities you work with. I think we can come to an agreement. Not that you have to get our blessings all the time, but it's a way to work with us. So we appreciate your ability to hopefully accommodate that. Definitely, definitely, I've heard the concerns, so we will certainly work through them together. And I'm pretty sure I can get Michael just to give up his impact fees to the fire department. I think that was part of what I think we've we had it go there. That was the alternative. But in reality, we will certainly work together and we'll get it figured out But we will I will ask the board for more time and they'll have no issue with doing so Great. Thank you sir. Thanks everybody And thank all the first responders that that service our area we do appreciate them. I know what we do have to have Tough discussions once in a while, but it does not take away the thankfulness we have for serving in our community. I know that. Very much appreciate it, everybody. Thank you. All right. Next, we're on to reports. We're going to reports by the mayor. A couple of weeks ago, we had our Dr. Cog meeting and we had discussion about the future of BRT in the metro area. We had a presentation from the front range passenger rail, which none of that will come through Brighton or even close to Brighton or even their port, but anyway, I digress. They are also wanting us to take an action item on supporting the RTD table ballot question. That'll be on your ballot coming up and there wasn't enough people that could actually take a vote. So they have scheduled a special meeting for tomorrow so we can vote whether we take a vote on that or not. So I'm not sure how I'm going to vote on that right now, but it doesn't matter what kind of position we take overall the voters will decide. So I was also at the BJA Park that dedicated a bench to former council member Marylyn Pollock. And she was very tickled and pleased about the and surprised, honestly, for for that bench that was named after her. And it's positioned right behind home plate over at the baseball field at BJA Park. So she can sit back and sit on that bench and watch the Maybe some of the games that are grandkids could be playing in and nieces and so on Earlier today I had the pleasure of meeting a few other mayors in the area Down in downtown Denver and we welcomed a delegation from Kosovo in its group of locally elected leaders from the country of Kosovo and we talked about the different challenges we have in our area and they talked about their challenges and we they talked about how government has run differently over there than here in the way they're funded and it was a it was a neat healthy discussion and we had probably about I don't know four or five of us mayors there in a few other people from the metro coming up I have like I said my doctor Cog special meeting tomorrow tomorrow of Metro mayors caucus meeting in the morning and then next week is the CML policy committee meeting which we'll start talking about the upcoming legislative bills that will start at the new year. Here we are to start at the fourth quarter of 2024 and we're already going to be talking about 2025. So fun times ahead. Next we'll go to any reports by department directors. We have none this evening. Thank you. None this evening. Port Spyro City Attorney. None this evening. Thank you Mayor. Okay. Port Spyro City Manager, including the board and commission vacancy update. And when you look online, I think there was a post recently how gosh, 12 or 13 openings of various sorts. You are correct. I will say that it's interesting that we have the juicer folks here tonight because we are talking about volunteers and we can always use more for our boards and commissions. So we still have a Ward 2 Planning Commission member vacancy. But thankfully that's the only vacancy we have on the planning commission. So that's promising. We have an alternate and two at large members of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board open. We have two members of the Brighton Urban and Renewal Authority open, a historic preservation, I'm sorry, three historic preservation commissioners open, one alternate member, and two members and two alternate members of the Brighton Housing Authority. Although I know we did have an application for that recently. So we do have a few openings. So I encourage everybody to perform your civic duties and get out there and participate. So that is my report there as far as my report on city business. I will say that at the good fortune of going to Pittsburgh for the International City and County Managers Association Conference. I will never be the city manager of Pittsburgh. I will just say that. It's an interesting town that probably wouldn't have me anyway. But we did take a lot back. And I had two things. One thing that we have to be conscious of, especially as we're trying to recruit the new generation of folks. And it's funny we were talking about benefits tonight. One of the sessions that I attended was how to recruit Gen Z and beyond. And one of the things they mentioned is you really have one shot at recruiting Gen Z and beyond. And one of the things they mentioned is you really have one shot at recruiting Gen Z folks, and that's the first two sentences of your job description. Ironically, in those first two sentences, the person talked about Gen Z wants to know what your actual benefit package is in that first two sentence, because they're conscious of it. They're conscious of what mental health benefits do you provide? They're conscious of what is your vacation package look like? So it was interesting to hear that because oftentimes as we talked about tonight, we think about how compensation plays a part in that, but really the new generation of folks, of course compensation means something to them, but benefits actually mean a lot to them, a lot more than what we've assumed. So as a city, we'll have to start doing things differently so we know what to do to attract the next generation. They also talked a lot about balance and flexibility. I think that we have a pretty good balance when it comes to our workloads here within the city of Brighton. I think we can always do better. But that's something that current generations, as well as the next generation of workforce coming in, will be ultra cognizant of. And flexibility, of course, COVID's changed the world for all of us. I think some local governments do flexibility one way where you're completely remote. A lot of other municipalities aren't as flexible. I think we have a pretty good balance here, but again, we're always going to be looking at ways that we can recruit, attract, and retain every quality candidate and employee that we have. And I took back a lot of key practices from other cities that I think will help us here. And I also will say that we have two superstars in our ranks here. And my city manager update this week. I mentioned that our budget performance team had a couple of sessions that they facilitated. They were rock stars. Catherine and Paris did an amazing job. I've had a few city managers and folks from other municipalities throughout the country reach out to me and compliment me on how well the presentations were and the workshops. They actually walked a group, a pretty large group. I want to say we probably had, what do you think, Mark, about 75 folks in that second session? We had a group of 75 and we taught them how to do process mapping, which was really cool. And at the end of it, we showed them all the steps it takes to make a sandwich. And it was pretty amazing to see how thoughtful some of the folks were, but how much folks don't realize goes into a simple process, which was the idea of the session. So our team did fantastic. We have rock stars here, and I'm proud that they continue to promote the city of Brighton the way they do, not only here, but beyond Colorado. Thank you. Don't forget the hot challenge. I'm trying to personally forget about hot challenge. My stomach still hurts. So for those that aren't aware, I also sat in on a panel where our former budget performance manager, Kayla Perotta, who is now a deputy city manager and Albany organ, have you guys seen the hot ones show where they ask a question of somebody and they ask eight questions every time they ask a question, they eat a hot wing, but the hot wings get incrementally hotter. So we did the same thing with three other city managers. The last sauce got me a little bit. It's pretty hot, but I was the only person to A, eat all of my wings. So I'm not gonna say who, but some of the other panelists barely took a nibble. And the last, it was called the last dab, which was 2.6 million school of the units, I believe. I added three dashes on mine. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. I'm not sure if I can see the report. Thank you. There is video on LinkedIn of the City Manager crying is he ate that last hot one. It's worth finding. Sweating from his eyes mostly. So last week was the airport coordinating committee where I continue to parent my new reputation as the local curmudgeon because we had some issues with some aero-travelist marketing, which we're supposed to be participating in, and the launch of the aero-travelist marketing campaign is apparently going to happen with a party 10 months after the website was developed, but somewhere in Aurora, there's all kinds of nonsense going on there. The good news, I suppose, is that the county has finally acknowledged that a committee that meets once a quarter and pontificates about the value of marketing at the airport was never actually going to go anywhere. And so they've agreed to find staffing to actually manage air trooperless marketing. So it's not just managed by a group of people who has no employee to go send off to do anything. So finally made a tiny bit of progress there. And then yesterday I was part of a panel run by the attorney general at the state opioid abatement conference. And that was kind of entertaining and fun because Adams County is actually a fairly good model for how we've gotten money directly out into the community from those opioid settlements in the first year. And we've managed to reserve and are looking at making capital investments in those services like inpatient treatments and intensive outpatient treatments that don't exist anywhere in Adams County today. So talking about the fact that we were able to address immediate needs with money in hand today and also look for what we're going to do in the long run. So we actually served as a model to the rest of the state for that kind of exciting. I think that's about it. Thanks. Thank you. I'll member today. I have nothing meaningful to share. And, Spir, you need to stop being mean to people. Councilmember Pulaski. Thank you, Mayor. On September 17th, I met with Joe Donahue out here, Brighton's Applebees, to kind of touch base and get a little more acquainted with him. And he's doing a great job. I'm really glad we have him heading up E470 right now. I also last week had E470 operations and public affairs, and that's a committee that I chair and We're in the process now because the our main office building has been there for so long They're going to reorganize it and try to update and also bring better technology and since as we all know technology changes constantly Tomorrow evening. I have a parks and rec board meeting that I'm looking forward to. And then on next Thursday the 10th, I have another E470 meeting where we'll be talking about what's going to be taking place in 2025. Thank you. And also thank you for meeting on a Brighton venue. When I met Doug Rex earlier this year, we made sure it was a Brighton venue as well. Council member Worth. I'm going to be back to the next one. I'm going to be back to the next one. When I met Doug Rex earlier this year, we made sure it was a bright and venue as well. Council member worth. Thank you, Mayor. Since our last meeting, I went to the BIC. They are planning for a retreat this weekend. I'll be going up with a bunch standing youth up to the YMCA camp and spending a couple productive days with those guys. That's the one in Estes Park. So I'm looking forward to that. I've been on many of those before and it's always a fun adventure. I made two trips to the eco recycling event when they had it over at Eagle view adult center. We were on a first name basis by the time I was done there. I had a car load and a half of stuff for them. I went to, and I'll lead most of this for a council member, Fiddler, but went to those crazy nights concert the other night, but benefiting almost home. And that was a great concert. Armory, that's the first concert I've been to in the armory I've been to many events there that's first concert I've been to and that was awesome just really good everything as a resident of Brighton I am now as of this morning fully converted to aloe who's been a great partner in the community and I'm enjoying that so far. I think that'll be a good company to work with. One thing that wasn't really mentioned is the Brighton Youth Commission was awarded the Colorado Philanthropic Award. So they'll be going down to, we'll be going down to the convention center, I believe somewhere down in Denver down there and receiving that award, but that really says a lot. That's, I believe the second time that the BYC has won that award. And it's really an amazing award. So that's primarily for their work in, with speak week and things like that. So, it's awesome, awesome thing. Other than that, I think that's it for me for this. Thank you. I have one more comment. One thing I'd really like to congratulate our youth services on. I mean, those guys are amazing in so many ways, but I really enjoy the fact that they are, I mean, we saw this with School District 27J, reaching out to the kids beyond just the college bound graduates and looking for all sorts of ways to get them engaged in an education and to see them now, you know, with the CTE centers that were built in all the 27 J schools, that's an amazing thing and then to see us looking even further into ways that we can get kids interested and intrigued and being productive beyond high school. That's just amazing. So my congrats go out to the Youth Services Department as well. Thank you. Thank you. One thing real quick, I forgot to mention is during the last Dr. Cogmeany we there was an announcement how Brighton received a couple different grants from the Safe Streets grants. And next time our public works directors here will have them comment on that hopefully, maybe in a couple weeks. Next council member Fiddler. Thank you Mayor. I thank you council member Worth, forgive me a chance to shine about almost home and windpoints with my wife at home. As Lloyd mentioned, they almost joined their council for a cause on Saturday night at the Army. Council member Worth andIS family were there Councilman today was there as well with friends former board member 27j board member Kevin Kerber and family were there and then if you don't know the lead singer of those crazy Nights is is married to current 27j board member Ash God and they are a talented bunch a lots of fun and sold out show and Just didn't share what they did with fundraising, but I'm hoping that was a good a good amount as well. A couple of just a win we actually did meet for this door preservation meeting and that was the first time we had a quorum of quite little while. Fascinating preliminary design or this is a study of the canary building there on North Main. That was a lot of fun. I enjoyed reading that. And of course, any questions I might have had about the history, Dick Hodg could answer. And I mean that respectfully. And then just an update on the Lockwood sewer board meeting. So there were only four voting members in attendance. It was Jamie Jeffery who was serving as the chair on the She's Mayor Pro Temo with there and then May West got from Lockbooey myself and Councilmember Johnston were attending their in person virtually as you know Tom's traveling. So big item there that they had requests for amendment to amend the professional service agreement with aquengineering of Utah. That's the company they're working with to build this expansion for their water treatment plant. I went well prepared. Thanks, Scott Olson, our utility director, with a long list of questions. I only had only asked one, and that was have they explored a potential connection to the Metro waste water recovery, planted down there on the plant, and told them that I was hesitant to vote yes on the amendment. It was just $700,000. And to say in the end, there was a motion, and it failed to get a second, including from the other board member from Lockwood that was there. So what in the vote? So we'll see what they do with that going forward but one thing city staff for putting us in a position to ask a lot of questions but one question caused them to pause a little bit. They also had a rate increase for the sewage treatment for raise their rates, different rates and user rates. For the record, I made the motion to go ahead and approve that. The vote was three to one, and they needed a super majority over there to raise their rates. So that failed as well. So it was tough night over there for the folks in Block-Moei. And I mean that sincerely. They've got things they need to get done but more action there than normal in terms of my my participation there. That's all I'll share tonight Mayor. Thank you. They probably didn't know what to do and they didn't prevail on anything. Next Council member Snater. Thank you Mayor Ben. The last one to give a report. I promise to keep this under 65 minutes so that we can end this meeting. I attended the Downtown Business Association breakfast with Aaron from Burrow. We're really trying to promote this DDA and having a little trouble getting participation from building owners and downtown business people. I'm not sure if you're interested in building a participation from building owners and downtown business people. So I took the opportunity at that breakfast to give a shameless advertising pitch for the DDA. I don't know how much good it did, but a few people seem interested. Puma, the is the consulting firm we're working with is going to set up another lunch and they're going to have a couple of their people go directly to the business folks and talk to them and try to get them in and they have hired a bilingual consultant that's on their team that's going to go to the Hispanic businesses and try to get them involved because they do own a lot of those businesses down there. It's very important for them to be involved. So that's moving forward. Burr gave up. We decided to change because we had a lot of extra money. We changed the rate of the grants for Fis to $75.25. So if the business owner puts up $25, we put up $75 to try to get some movement. And as a result in one month, we got huge jewelers. They're going to restuckle their building. Jew to boutique is gonna get new signage. The jeweler, Jan Janison Kelly Smith, that there's 60th in bush building that used to be an automotive shop. They have finally got a tenant in there and she sells all kinds of Hispanic goods, pinatas and party goods and that kind of thing. They're going to repaint that building and she's going to put a lot of decorations up and really make that kind of a festive place down there. I think that will help downtown. And 7 a.m. somewhere coffee shop maybe is going to open. I don't think they have gotten their business license yet. We did them give them a grant for signage and they have a nice outside patio upstairs for people to go have coffee outside and look at the mountains and stuff, but there's no railings going up there. So we gave them a grant to put railings in, but we did make their grants contingent on securing a business license. And then just a little update, Gary Montoya, that guy works so hard to get things going on. But we have some things coming up in on October 26th we're going to have the harvest says October 26th is a crazy day in Brighton. Harvest fest from 10 to 4 then the pub crawls at night from 4 until everybody gets done crawling. Matt might help with that a little bit. Matt, you know, keep an eye on him. And then Dia de Smorteza is also going to be at the armory from 3 to 7 this same day, and they'll have live music there. So October 26 is going to be a busy day in Brighton. The tree lighting has been set for December 7th and the parade of lights for the 14th. So Gary, thanks for all your hard work wherever you are. He does an amazing job for us keeping this stuff going on and getting the community involved, which is really important. I just want to make one other comment. I've been trying to figure out how to say this delicately because I don't mean it to be offensive to anybody and I don't mean it to be a criticism, but I have talked to three or four people that are serving on boards that we're having trouble getting people to be on the boards. Why, what do you like about it? Why do you think people aren't getting on the boards? And what I've heard is they said, well, we don't feel like the city staff or the city, listen to us. We don't feel like we have any weight. We don't feel like it's worthwhile. And so I'm not making that comment to be critical. I just think that we have to somehow, in part, that their opinion and their desires and their direction is not only needed, it's wanted and that we do care. Because that's kind of what, some of my neighbors I've asked to serve on a board. I've asked several to replace my commission position and I, that, nobody cares. They don't listen to that. And I'm like, that's not true. We do care. But somehow, I don't know if there's anything we can do to help impart that to people, but I think it would help us get more volunteers. And that is all, I'm really not going to go the full 65 minutes. Well, I'm glad we didn't have to call a break in between your comments. So thank you. And I agree that we probably need to find ways to improve that process with the board's and commissions. We'll talk about that. Each year. All right, next item 13A Mayor Prattam. I'll ask our IT team to advance to the next page of the agenda so I have the numbers. Thank you. So I move that we recess for an executive session pursuant to CRS 246 402 subsection 4 F 1 and charter section 5.4 subsection C5 for personnel matters relating to the city managers evaluation. And then councilmember Ploskey. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to second that motion. The first and a second to go into executive session. If there's no other comment, we'll call vote. Motion passes 7-0 with two absent. We will go into executive session and then return to the open. and I'm going to go ahead and do the same thing. 834 PM. The executive session has been included. For the record in this, the participants in this executive session were most of the current city council, the exception of no council member green and no council member Johnston. We also had director of human resources Kevin Young and later city manager Martinez joined us. For the record of any person who participated in this executive session believes that any substantial discussion of any matters not included in the motion to go under the executive session occurred during the executive session or that any improper action occurred during the executive session and violation of the open meetings law, I would ask that you state your concern for the record. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you. I would like to instruct staff to prepare a resolution completing the review for the city manager and adjusting his compensation accordingly. We are very appreciative of the city manager and the work that he has done in the last year, the number of projects that have been started in the last several years, delivered and implemented and completed, and specifically the significant change in culture, positive change in culture for our employees and for our community. Thank you. I support that as well. So staff has their direction. If there's nothing else before this council we are adjourned. See you next week at study session.