Chairwoman Cruz here, Mr. Jamison. I'm here. Mr. Inman is absent. Mr. Champion is absent. No. So can you? Yeah. So there are no minutes at this time. And there are no old business. The new business before us today is to request considerations for the failed vacancy of John Ward. Tim London applied in sort of Gigi Beddington, are either of the applicants in the audience. So Mr. London is here this morning. That is you guys. Do you have an opportunity to review the applications? If not, you can also ask Mr. London to the dias. I think that would be a good idea. I need post of that, ask Mr. London to come up and just walk through application and interest. Good morning. Good morning. I applied because I heard that people you're looking for people apply. I'm a newer resident. We've been living here for four years. We retired here so my application has one small aircraft an earlier revision and it says I'm currently working which I retired about in 21. So we're love edgewater. We fell in love with Florida when I was doing a project in Palatka and we traveled the whole area and decided to retire down here and came back two years later and bought in Florida shores. I've been in construction and development my whole life worked with one construction manager for 35 years. So I've been around development and all different phases, all different types. So I bring unique experiences to the table. Most of my experience has to do with health care and industrial applications. And involve with mining operations, paper industry, wood products, and power. So if you have any questions, I can answer. But I thought I'd throw my name in the hat and see if we can help. Thank you, Tim. Why the interest in the economic development board for Edgewater? As I said, I was involved in development. I know Edgewater is growing and there's things that can be done to facilitate that and to try to look forward for the future. I've been very gifted in having all kinds of experiences and thought we could bring that to the table. I did apply for the Goning Board as well, just because there's openings and what you guys decided to see where the best fit is. So you were in construction. You weren't in these different businesses. You were involved in the construction of those businesses? Yeah, I worked with a top 400 general contractor for most of my career. Handled major projects two to three years at a crack, had a deal with the local municipalities as well as the owner. I was typically the largest ranking employee on the site, everybody, for the project was underneath me and I was the first director interaction with the owner and the municipalities that were in charge of the project or reviewing the project. Okay. Did, um, thank you. Okay. Did everybody have a chance to review his application? Can you pull it up on the screen? Just one question while Ryan's pulling that up Tim, thank you. What's your thoughts on the roles and duties or guidelines for this development board? I'll be honest. I didn't have chance to take a look at him. I didn't think I'd get brought up this fast. However, I'm a quick learner. I do like to follow the details, you're till orientated and based on getting involved, it would definitely help in any way possible. Do you have any with everything going on in the city right now? Do you have any, with everything going on in the city right now? Do you have any strong feelings one way or another about where the city is today? Where the city is with? Today with the growth. Well, the more courier. Strong feelings, there's a lot coming at the city and they're trying to balance many things at one time. I think it's great to move forward. I understand there's budget issues. I understand there's flooding issues. I've been very focused because floor to floor is short. Quite times. There are twice since I've been here and I've been participating to all the workshops that I can get to. And I think there's some great things happening out there with some of the development. There's some questionable things, but I don't have enough information. On either side to judge until you get into the details. OK. I will say Mr. London has to do every thing to watch for the conquad, which you might be dealing with. Thank you for that. That's a good thing. Thank you. I do have a question. Thank you. I have a question for you. Sorry. What would be your preference? Would you prefer to be on the PNZ or on this board? I almost, to me, it seems like PNZ would be a better fit for your skill set. I think they both apply. I have no personal preference. I just want to get involved and try to help the community as much as possible. I appreciate that. I think Christine was looking at your physical experience as it relates to construction, where this board is looking a little out in the future to make sure there's the buzzword smart growth, you know, whether that's been defined ever but you know making sure that we have a progressive plan to bring and support businesses and things in this community. Well, the part that applied is a couple of my clients or owners that are worked with, expanded over several years and multiple projects and we're actually helping them lay out the next phase and stuff. So there was some interaction, but I said whatever you guys think is best that I'm okay with. Perfect. Thank you, Tim. We appreciate you coming today. Thanks. Thank you. And for all of your attendance at the workshops. All right. And since Josh isn't here, we won't do this wearing in today. So we'll go on. You said that was no old business. We have another one, buddy. Oh, I'm sorry. Here's your agenda. I'm sorry. Thank you. Discussion of the service. No. No, we still have. Oh, Gigi Bennington application, sorry. Gigi isn't here. Right. But I think most everybody knows Gigi for her years of service on the City Council. She's also applied for the planning and zoning. Correct. Any discussion? And for charter review. Why? Let me, if it were either or I would go with Mr. Tim here, just because he has a fresh voice, which is a good thing, I think, and a voice. Which you don't have today. I don't really have. Thoughts or discussion? Well, I happen to know Mrs. Venington longer. And I know that she is always very supportive of the economic development board and our positions and recommendations. And because both of them have a club for both boards and their openings on both boards. I would choose Mrs. Bennington or I'd nominate Mrs. Bennington for this board and if it were up to me I'd nominate our guests for the planning and zoning board. And that's up to the planning and zoning board. There hasn't been review of the application with the board yet. It's just our board and what we're doing here. Right. The planning and zoning board. The next month we'll consider regardless of regardless, I mean this for London will be considered before the so will Gigi will be considered for the planning and study board There are I believe for other Three or four other applicants that will also be considered for the planning and That one's a little bit more competitive one thing While only Mr. London and then this is fending into the life or the event. Okay. Mike can he be- Well, only Mr. London and Mrs. Benning can apply. Okay. Mike, any discussion or thoughts? No, not really. Not because it's negative either way. I'd press a board for you. Well, you were. I get it. I definitely like to see Mr. Runner on one of the two because I'm exactly because it's the interest and he's demonstrated that by attending. which as you said that's unusual. A lot of people say they want to participate actually showing up and being involved with the brother of fresh air. I think everybody knows when it's fitting to, so she's definitely qualified as well. But to Bliss's point, we can't speak on the half of the fighting and so on. I do think that's probably more of a fit. But... You know, anything? Come in line with what Mike said. I think they are both qualified for either boards. I like the idea of having a fresh voice for sure to this board. I think they would serve either board very well. So kind of indifferent. Okay. Similar, I think Tim, you're very qualified for either board. And again, thank you for participating and being part of because volunteer work is just an opportunity to make our city better and sometimes it's not easy. So I thank you for that. I kind of mirror Christine thoughts about a fresh perspective on this board. It's nice to see somebody that's already engaged and looks like they'll continue to be engaged in city functions. So I would mean more towards them. Any other thoughts? Do we take a vote? Yes, we have to have a nomination. A second. Anable. Correct. I make the motion. I don't want to get you in there. that we have to have a nomination second. On a date. I make the motion, I want to get you in here, that we appoint or that we propose to the council to appoint Tim London to the economic development board. We have a second. Certain. Any discussion? Now you need a vote. Thank you. I'm any discussion. Chairwoman Cruz. Mr. Jameson. No. Mr. Inman. Yes. Mr. Champion is not here. Mr. Kelly. Yes. Miss Power. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Congratulations, Mr. London. That will be going to the Oh gosh. Probably missed a deadline for the city clerk. So it'll probably go Next, the first meeting in June has been this appointment will be heard before the council. And we are just a suggestion. So, well, our suggestion carries weight. They might do their own thing. City Council. City Council. For your benefit, obviously they'll have the final say so. There are governance body for the city, but we very much appreciate your interest application and all of our boards could use a fresh perspective. All right, next order. New bits. All of our boards could use a fresh perspective. Yes. All right, next order. New business discussion of the comprehensive economic development strategy. And no, but let's just put this as a regular agenda item. So the comprehensive economic development strategy was updated in 2015 and went over, had a big overhaul. And we are updating through Kimmy Horn several of the, well, we're updating everything in the document to state whether it's ongoing, whether we completed it and what was completed if it was completed. And then also if there's any new goals for the future. So again, just kind of going over, this is basically how we are supposed to position the city for growth. So these are the different objectives. It's kind of like our comprehensive plan for the city's economic future. And this is part of that. So some of the, I just took some screenshots. I mean, it's a 30 page document. So, yeah, well, I wanted to get, okay, so the reason we're here to do this is this board has not revisited the comprehensive economic development strategy in quite a while. You know, we were very accustomed and relied on Samantha Varshalon, a great deal. But with everything going on in the city, I felt it very important that we come back to this governing document That has been in effect since 2010 Was updated in 2015 and so on because so many of the changes The staff changes the leadership changes the council chambers You know you talked to people about our comprehensive development strategy for the city that we've had for years and not everybody is aware of it, or they think that it was put on the shelf. Well, it is not put on the shelf and we are the ones, the boards are the ones to keep it alive and fresh and refer to so that But we don't have to keep reinventing the wheel. We have a roadmap that we have adopted years ago, and we have been updating it and moving forward. And especially at this time, when the city is having more Toriums, the city is having comp plan reviews and talking about land development changes. We need to go back to what has been set forth back in 2010 and see where we are because this was our guide. So that is why I wanted to do some housekeeping and bring everybody back to here. Christine voted on this several times when she sat on the council. So she's very familiar with the document. I don't know that with each of you here on the dice, I don't know if each of you have had a chance to go through this in the past. But if we just, and I'm going to be old school, old school, Marm, and go through it one by one, to make sure we all understand what is and was and what is being proposed. And this is very important with what is now being proposed with the compland use changes and the land development code changes. So if you're aware of this document, you have the information on which to ask very informed decisions about what is being proposed. So the board said a proposing things that may not, excuse me, may not align with the strategy for the city. Is there a review of these kinds of things? is there, you know, I think about moratoriums and, you know, just council review this as part of no different than this board? Because everybody owns it. It was, it was, it was, those of us that participated and agreed that, you know, we have a strategy for growth and infrastructure to attract businesses to make training, you know, to develop these lead up to what we would consider smart growth, not just the words behind each of the objectives, but what it means for the city. We know that growth is inevitable and we have the opportunity to shape some of those things. No, I mean, for the year and a half, I've been here. We have not. I did do an educational seminar at the beginning of the comp plan on planning and zoning. It wasn't specifically on sets, but no, I haven't educated. I haven't been asked. Nor has it ever been really done, like a planning and zoning basics. And here are the documents that guide our decisions on the city. No, we don't have that. It almost feels like as part of a mission statement, because this is a large mission statement, but nonetheless, it road map. Correct. That, you know, there could be a document that's got a lot of blank walls in here. It might be a good idea to just have a wish list. It's the wish list. Yes. To me kind of. Wish and want and need. Well, and as we go through it, you can see what has been completed, what is it ongoing, what is in progress. So you can see that things have actually been pursued and accomplished and there's been great successes. Which I mean, I can give you all kinds of examples of how we have made strides using this document as a governing document. Right now the workshops that Ryan is hosting that the public is coming to. They are the community voice saying how and what they want the comp plan to be. They do not have the benefit of this guiding document, especially people who have moved in here for the last year to three years or more. And as Ryan said, he has not been asked or directed to use this document. We've had two different city managers. We're on an interim city manager now, and the past city manager never use this document. If you speak to the city council now, they do not refer to this document. Which is an issue. So how do we get, I think as you said, Christian? It starts right here. Yes. It starts with this board, which is why I want to be the old school mom and say, OK, number one is, does anybody else tell me what number one is? So we need to. And if you'll allow me, I'll be the old schoolman. Yep. At the risk of boring you, it will be educational. OK. Number one, I'm just going to go down. Can you put up the new? Yeah, boy, I just have snippets. Snippets? You want the whole document? I can put it up. Yeah, I wanted the whole document. She's gone all school. All school. Click on agenda. Yeah, I just said. Okay, well, since we don't have the new ones, it didn't change that much. They just updated what we had. Goal one was expanding business and industry and edgewater. I won't go into that, but number one, objective 1.1 identified desirable businesses and targeted industries. We have that it even listed out vote building marine equipment supplies services and since then we have added aviation and aerospace and technology. I'm ahead of you. I'm still back. Schoolman. technology. I'm ahead of you. I'm still back, school mom. Okay, whatever. As you're reading, follow in the dark. Okay. The recreational equipment, supplies, and services. The commercial and industrial properties, excuse me, products and services. Green industries and technology, entertainment, creation and leisure services, aviation, aerospace, equipment supplies. Then it came up with action items, and the action items are where we can see successes, ongoing and so forth. Do we have any comments, questions, suggestions, anything to discuss here so far? So those that say ongoing lists are there things that actually get attached to this document or become the list? Okay, well we'll have to dive deeper and then you'll see. That's fine. Okay. So I'm going to go back up here to entertainment recreation and laser services. It'll give you right there an update in red. We updated our greenway trails and updated the FGTS opportunity and priority trail maps. Can I need to update this with the insertion? Okay. So, you know, since 2010, we have the whole Rails to Trail system now. So that's an accomplishment. And that was also done for industry and tourism. Bennett talks about here February 2021, Factory Direct, RV, and Marine purchased 4100 South red-rood road, which is what Ryan was referring to. We need to update that to Insertech. And Insertech is the company we were discussing at the last meeting that is going to be doing aerospace and aviation plating for the industries. So that's going to go down into aviation and aerospace equipment. Correct. And they bought the RV direct building right there across the street from Boston Whaler and they are adding 56 to 57,000 square feet of additional industrial space. If you look at the aviation aerospace equipment supply services and technologies, that gets into the formation of the Southeast pollution manufacturing and technology coalition and all of the regional efforts that we are doing to promote the targeted industries in our area. Actions 1.1 is to confirm compile a list of existing firms in their employment levels in the edge order to best represent these businesses and industry clusters as a basis for designing and implementing marketing strategies. We have done that and we continue to update that and carry it forward. So C, you see it says ongoing. So Insertech has been added to the list. And Interface Welding has been added to the west. You know, as they come, we are doing that. 1.1.2 provide copies of the strategic plan highlighting these targeted clusters plus the information and existing industries in county, regional, and economic development allies, including the Volusia County Department of Economic Development, Metro or Orlando, Economic Development Commission, etc. To these organizations to facilitate the regional. Do you have a copy of our comprehensive economic development strategy? Do you ever as the county do you all ever review? I mean, you just put chance for it. So you're good. We please state your name and address for the rest of the concerns. New Paris direct economic development for Volusia County. Thank you. When I entered my role a little over, well, now it's been a year and a half ago, one thing that surprised me, we didn't have a strategy done in, I mean, let me put it this way, the most recent one that I could find referenced the departure of GE as a recent thing, if that tells you anything. So one thing that I was very impressed when I did a tour of all the municipalities in Volusia County was you guys, because the fact that you're developing a strategy around SEDS speaks volumes of, you know, you're thinking very strategically. And I was very impressed with that to the point that we mirrored our own strategy, you know, with yours. We looked at, we looked at SEDS and let me not assume that everyone knows. At a federal level, there are studies, economic studies done and based on the outcome, there are suggestions made for each region and each one has, let me phrase it this way, a different flavor. The flavor for Central Florida, Eastern Central Florida, is resilience, meaning helping the economists here be a little more diverse in terms of industry composition so that we're less reliant on one thing. So if something were to happen, we are, you know, more capable of overcoming it. So our entire strategy revolves around that, that, you know, attempt to diversify. And you're first a goal, even though it doesn't quite read like that, it's implicit that that's exactly where you're trying to accomplish. So I think based on what I've seen, you're absolutely on the right track, because if you aren't, I am not either. So I think that, you know, it's a perfect direction. Our strategy, yes, it stands in, I'll share that with you. I can share the document with you and you know, it's something you should probably have. It has five goals stated and the goals are similar to yours. You know, and they're all pointing again, that same general direction of helping our industry be more resilient by virtue of diversity. I hope I answered your question. You did. Okay. And you added and I thank you. So C, edge order was leading in something. Nobody knew. But nobody was using it. Yeah. That's probably the biggest challenge, right? Yes. That we don't refer back to this guideline. It's no different than you start a new job. You have an appointment book in one of the rules and guidelines. And these are the things that the city has decided are important. And that's our strategic direction. And yet, I think I'm thankful is because she is the champion of making sure that people get drawn back to the things that the city has decided are important. Well I think a lot of that comes through because really been one person has been here through all that and that's bliss and I mean that really I know when you go through new councils and new mayors and new city managers, things that are long-term documents get lost. Right, so to your point, something that has been around since 2010, there's really, I can't name any individual that's been around since 2010, that has been here to implement that or keep that in the forefront. So you're right. I mean, this is something that's the Bible, the road map that needs to be in and obviously we're doing things against this agenda that are against this road map that are that are happening. That's succeeding. So get that back to the floor for a pair of it. It should be it should be the guiding. Regardless, it shouldn't change. The document shouldn't change by as the commission heard a council or the leadership of the city changes. Well, and that's really, I mean, that's really the true point of this is our comprehensive plan for our economic growth. And then we have our regular comprehensive plan. I mean both of them to that point, you know, they're not supposed to change that much between councils. There's supposed to be that's the vision from the city and Whatever's going on in the city that should adopt that focus on that vision Whatever is coming before the Because this is also what has been resilient, is what has been determined as our goal to determine, to achieve a resilient, healthy community. And so that's why, you know, when you're elected, you're elected to help bring the strategy forward. So I would say two things. One, this is a living document? Yes, which is when it's used. Right. Which is easier to amend or to update than the comp plan. Or land development code or whatever, this is a little bit in theory. It would be easier. And also, I'd like to have a dollar for every time. South East Blush, a Chamber of Commerce is in here. Sorry, guess that's a little bit, but you know the fact that we should be working hand in hand with the Southeast pollution Chamber of Commerce I think speaks a lot to the direction that the City Council has taken themselves. So with that, I'm also on the the chamber they're on the chamber board for years I will say that you know we have been working more closely with the chamber the chamber has also been through some changes But with that that brings me back, 20, 22, the three cities work together as a region and adopted the regional comprehensive economic development strategy based on the combination of each of the city's economic development strategies. And so the region adopted that in 2022 and we have been working more closely together. And you know representing three cities is tough, but diverse cities. Very much. Very unique, very diverse cities. But for the health of our region, for the health of this city, we need to bring the Bible back and make sure people know it and look at these new changes that are being suggested and see if they are in alignment or if we're throwing the baby out with the bathroom. Or that they're being too reactive. Why were you speaking bliss? I just wrote down how do we ensure or how do we suggest or how do we make it part of that boards, managers, people of the city that are responsible for or have input into development. the chamber and the mayor have a view of this and maybe it's it starts with the city manager. I know I'm getting there. That's why the city manager is on this list but that there is a review agreement that these are still the right goals and that this group of people that participate with city, including volunteer boards, agree that it's a good economic strategy and that they commit to support and that when we present things to city council, whether it's projects or items that prior to it going to vote that we make sure it's aligned and if it's not, then maybe it doesn't become an agenda item until there's a discussion. I know that may not make people happy, but it feels like very reactive. The whole world, I'm not saying just the city of Edgewater, this is going on everywhere and it becomes part of what people think are right things to do. If I yell out enough I get my point across and I'll win and that's not the point of this. That was a very good suggestion. We as this board need to yell a lot of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Need to yell louder. We could do that. To make a recommendation to the new city manager when they arrive. Yes. That going forth, we have an agreement with the commission, with the council, and with all the different boards, and whoever the city manager is, interest because the city manager is the one who's going to have to carry it forward. But we can certainly make that recommendation and present it and see if we can't get that done. Isn't this a blueprint? Yes. I mean, in writing document that could help the new state management on the first day manager and the commission and the mayor. I mean these are the things that have to make it up. It's right. Yeah. This is also something that the constituents of edgewater would actually think that maybe somebody knows what they're doing. If they knew this was... Well, that's online. I think you can find it. I get it. It is. I think it needs to live a little better. Would you go back to the standard or the main list ground, please? Yeah. So when I look at and maybe it is actually to me it's very visible. These are the kinds of things as a business. In my prior business we had goals and objectives. If I look at this no different than I was at Whaler for many years that we're going to a new model boat. And we're going to look at what the market says, what the people say about it, what the current customers do, what we think that go forward market is going to be like, whether you know, why should we go build a 22-foot boat when smaller boats aren't selling and we don't anticipate those two. What kinds of things need to be included in that. And that's no different than this. But there is a lot of time, energy and resources that are put to that. There is an entire team and a person that manages how this gets communicated and the presentation of. And I'm not saying we're wrong, I'm just trying to figure out how that comes together. This seems very similar. I'm sure they tone a state has something similar. You have goals, objectives, and you make sure that the projects you work on and the things you support align with those, or we need to change them. And I don't see anything in here that needs to be changed. That all is, it's big, but we don't do all of it at once. It just needs to make sure that when projects come before the board discussion come before, for moratoriums, do they support this? And how do we manage pulling back without making some decisions that go against what the city has agreed to? It's a good document. Well, and I think also to any time we go to these meetings and we approach the desk, it's up to us to vocalize and see that it is connected to ZEDS goal objective in our fields. So it's even if it's just a subtle reminder that this exists and it is in mine. Or the opposite, of course, this is not in line with anything on the sets. You know, we have these goals, we have these objectives, which one does this activity or proposal aligned with? We can even ask it as an open-ended question. You tell me, counsel, you tell me, group or committee, which goal or objective does it align with? Well as Bliss said, the city manager, but I also think that the commission and mayor should also be supporting these. You should be the living documents, the menus, the strategic. It has to be introduced to them. It has, they have to sit with Ryan, the city manager or someone and go through everything and ask their questions. They have not had that. Yeah, but it, excuse me for being a rude, but it shouldn't have to be introduced. It's their job to look at that. It's not our place to volunteer board to introduce to elected officials, a living, breathing document that's been in place since 2010. I think I can disagree with that, Mike. It's everybody's. I don't think it's our soul, but for lack of having a city manager or one that didn't care, it does become somebody else's. I agree that we should agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. to support going forward. Whether it's this forward, whether it's the city manager, whether it is the commission, that it is a living document that somebody signs and we put in a file and I'm not a signature, people don't have to live by that. But to me, that means I read it, I put my name on it and I agree to support it for the city. I agree with that. I agree with that. I guess my my guess my point was more if you assume those roles of being on council or being a city manager or being mayor in you are unaware of a comprehensive economic development plan that's been in place since 2010 and you are approving proposals or entertaining proposals that your daily job and you don't know what the five major goals of the city are and how they align with that that's a problem. To your point if that's our opportunity to revisit that and remind them of that Sure, For us to have to be incumbent on us to educate them on every single decision they make whether applies with SEDS or not is to me ridiculous. It's holding them accountable. You might want not want to educate them but you can hold them accountable. I agree. But you have to be there to hold them accountable. So is there a way to propose two things one? That this is a part of the on boarding process for all new city Signature one and then two also what we're doing now an annual review. Yes, okay with another signature a review joint not just us but Mayor council planning and zoning planning all the folks all the people. We had one and it was only two people attended. Economic development and it turned into a shouting match between the Council and the planning and zoning board. I don you know, I think... I don't know if it's so important to have everybody together, Ryan, but it isn't... I think maybe... I have a document that said, I have reviewed it, and I agree that these are still the five goals and the objectives to support these goals to the city of Edgwater, and I commit to support and sign my name. To me, if there's anything that comes to be as a resident of Edgewater, that comes to be for vote or for implementation of the City of Edgewater, that can't fit nose five things, I don't know why anybody would want that. I mean those are the most broad, smart, five things. I mean, everything that we've talked about, if somebody wants a bike trail, if somebody wants that, I mean, you can fit whatever, anything that we've ever talked about since I've been here, can fit one of those five things. I don't know if you're planning to do any board, if you're a constituent, whoever you are, if you're a developer, if you're a constituent, if you're whoever you are, if you're a developer, if you're, I mean, you can find one of those five buckets that I would fit in. I don't know how you possibly would be. Again, I'm not about entertaining changing it. I think it's more about how we regulate where it fits into those things and then tracking it and making sure that it fits with, it complies with one of those five goals. And part of this too is getting some of this, you know, into the comprehensive plan. Some of these goals and the policies for achieving those goals, getting those into the land development code. Perfect. How did any of this happen? You know, so developing public financing Okay, that mechanism would need to be in the land development code There isn't any So you know, there's just again, it's just following up on You know, okay, here's the objective. Here's what we've achieved so far. How could we make it better? Well, let's get this stuff active in the code. And once it's active in the code, you'll see it more regularly. And I think that's part of it right now is this kind of sits behind with our comp plan. That kind of is like, it is what it is. But I think if it was, if the policies from in here made its way in which they should. They should be making their way into the land development code and so forth. Thank you. That was the goal for today. Well, I'm going to make another goal today and make a recommendation that this document becomes something that's a required review for all boards, City, and I'm not saying every city employee, but I think so. Every city employee should be at least aware, the mayor and the commission, and that it's signed annually that we agree to support this, that I have reviewed, you know, the economic, comprehensive economic strategy, I agree that these still should remain the goals. If somebody wants to do a workshop that there needs to be some changes, that's up to that. But that we agree that we would support these same things. As Mike said, there's so much in here. I know people might get overwhelmed, but it doesn't mean you do everything. You strategic things that are part of it. You review it in sequence. Exactly. OK, we're on repeat now. So does somebody want to make that motion? I make that motion. You can't. You're at the chair. Somebody want to make that motion? I'll make the motion. Oh, wait. What? What? Yep. OK. Public comment. All right. any public comment? Please come to the podium. Just a blue parasy. Okay. Public comment. All right. Any public comment? Please come to the podium. New parents again. What I've heard sounds phenomenal. I think one suggestion. I think they'll review a year because I was just kind of itching for someone to say it and finally I heard it. A simplification of the document so that it's easy to digest. Good would go a long way. Yeah I'd like to read this. Yeah, so if you can, and that's exactly one of my goals, is just dedicated to this one thing. Just to be able to communicate our strategic goals in a simple way to, as many people as possible. I don't think there's a civil rule that one thing will solve it, but the more you're out there saying it, having people review it every year. Amen. So what do you think about this page right here? Is that too much? It's a lot It's keeping the five. I think you can you can Simplify and it would be would go all you can simplify that maybe a little bit further How much I I don't know. And maybe even looking at the language, less words. And I'm sorry, I'm being that simple. I'll ask in your opinion now. Yeah, yeah. So less words goes a long way, simpler words. Sorry to say this third, fourth grade level rating would go a long way so that anyone can glance at it. And that's what you're really looking at. You're not looking at everyone understanding every single line just that there's a general understanding so that if anything there being a valid in the future, they know I know about this document. Let me dive a little bit deeper than they can go into more detail. So sense. I just want to say one thing in between. At the back of this document, we had a table that laid it out over the years and identified which which objectives were gonna be done and which action items on which year and it was very comprehensive and that is updated every time we updated as well. So it shows you that not everything's gonna be accomplished on day one. So there's a working table on the back. But yes. Sean, Steph, in 5303, Diamond Leap Drive, Edgewater, Florida. I wasn't planning on speaking today. I'm a resident of Edgewater, also the Project Director for Deering Park. I know Bliss very well. And Ryan, I've worked with Ryan for two years, working on Deering Park. Just wanted to introduce myself for the other members the Economic Development Board really just came today to participate member of the Chamber of Commerce. New member of the Chamber of Commerce we are also members of the Southeast Follucian technology and always forget to always mark that up but I've been reading we've sponsored probably every association in Southeast Folluciution probably the last two years. Every time we sponsor one of those events, I read their mission statement. Every one of those mission statements say the same thing. It's O'Kill, News Murna, City Vegewater, and they all say that we are in support of economic growth in this Southeast Follution. I've come to a lot, you know, I go to a lot of events. I call kind of the tour of all of these events. Listen, I attend, you know, I've been getting more involved in a lot of the Chamber of Commerce events. I'm trying to participate in the community. I've been a resident of Edgwater for a year and just wanna get, obviously I have Turing Park to launch here very soon and obviously a resident so I have a little bit of different focus obviously personally and professionally. You made a really good point as far as more participation in edgewater. I agree with you and I've had those conversations. So as far as economic growth, as far as Deering Park's concerned, our focus is a lot. We want to see economic growth and why we're coming to the meetings. So any questions you have for me in relationship to Deering Park? I saw Deering Park as one of the agenda items as far as meeting representative for Deering Park. I'm your person. So be glad to have any conversations related to Daring Park. One of the thoughts I had as you were talking today about how does this get in front of the public. I know I watch just about every city council meeting and I know that you know there's participation as far as all the staff members have an opportunity to have a moment to bring updates to the public as far as could there be an agenda item for an economic development update as one of the agenda items. It's just a thought for that agenda. But just want to offer, if you have any questions for me today, wasn't planned on speaking today, but a lot of good discussion. Hope to attend this meeting more often and get more people here. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. I would like to, since we're talking about the SIDS, we're looking at the five goals. We're also in the final stages of the comp plan workshops. I'd like to ask Ryan, are you, you know, in your comp plan that you're working on, do you have anything that's going to increase waterfront access and activity? Not necessarily in the comp plan, no, because it did not want to change the future land use along the river. And for the most part, the river is mostly built out. We have the huge program. And we have the Marina, Donut, and Jones Fish campus, and we're going in. So there are some, but as far as the city getting more, we're probably not gonna be hitting on that. What about the area, what are front next to the way which parking lot? Is there any plans on that? Yeah, so that's what I was saying. Is that the Jones Fish Camp? No, so there's two. That south part of the city is going to be kind of a boat or paradise. So you'll have Jones Fish Camp, we'll have the dry stacks storage where you can pay to have your boat put in there and they'll take it out for you at the marina or just north of the Boston. We have our huge we're making a $10 million investment into I believe almost a hundred slips trailer parking for boats bases on that property so it's a huge investment with a marina down there. So there will be you know we plenty of we are making a significant investment, $10 million. It's just, it's concentrated on one parcel, right, versus, you know, doing things to acquire more room or front property. But isn't that increasing access? Yeah, yeah. I just think I think it's it's no I the public when we were going through the comp plan they wanted to increase access along the river but they didn't want to see any changes to how riverside drive was and the bottom line was well it's just not feasible for the city you know we can look at maybe we can target properties around our existing parks but to try and purchase outright strips it's just not feasible. Based on the development that is occurring on Riverside, $1,000,000 homes getting torn down for five and six million dollars homes. The city just, with that progression naturally occurring right now on Riverside Drive, we are priced out. So I think that we have waterfront property, whether it's parks or the things, and there's an opportunity to maybe encourage some changes to those improvements versus trying to produce others. Anyway, going back to yours if you had any more questions, I know Christine was in the Throws of Making Emotion and that was to review. I just have one comment. I would be willing and I don't want to change documents but you try and simplify this a bit and ask that maybe you provide me the copy of Volucia Counties, says to see and I'm not saying you know the goal could be some of these things could be included in the actual goal. I'll take a shot at it, it doesn't get published, it doesn't get approved this board looks at it, but you know something that's a little more user friendly. So maybe like a, you want staff to create a template or a flyer that has this or. Well I think think Christine's was looking to... whether it's a pamphlet of flight, you can hand it out, but people don't necessarily read an actual document that requires an annual review and an annual signature to... Oh, or that. Oh, there's two things in that and what you just said. The annual review, which... Let's just go ahead and get that motion Christine you were Right to so this would be for boards to Board city manager city manager edgewater city employees. I don't I mean they don't have to me that would be a little bit Yeah, we't take staff no mission you know P and Z certainly would be part of you know would be good for them to see this as their I would say background offer a suggestion okay a motion to recommend that the city can to approve an annual review of the sets by the pertinent boards. And the mayor and the city manager. All right. Yes. So we have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Who was second, I'm sorry? Mike Kelly. Perfect. All righty. Chairwoman Cruz? Yes. Mr. Jamison? Yes. Mr. Inman? Yes. Mr. Kelly? Yes. Ms. Power. Yes. Frank, Frank, quick question. Do you have any other boards for council? Have a retreat? Anything else? retreat. No, no, no, we haven't done that in the long time. I mean, there's value in some of that. Yeah, and I asked because I think that could be an easy agenda item at a retreat for any of them. The problem with that is sunshine law. Like, I don't even know how you would do that. You'd have to have public there with it, having that public and record it. I mean, I just... It depends on how they structure the retreat deal. Right. And again, the issue with the sunshine law is that when people meet outside of the sunshine, they tend to come to agreements without maybe having the knowledge on top of it to either what's really going on or what should be going on. So they agree on something even though they have no idea what the truth is or what they really should be decided. But my thought would be during this retreat, if this were an item, it wouldn't be a, let's amend it, let's change it, it's just a review, it would be a review to keep in front of them. So, no changes or votes on it, it's just a literal, let's run through this to make sure it's still in a form. So not an update, so it's just looking at it. I mean, we've had workshops in the past, where it was this time. I mean, so things workshop. I think it's a different thing. I think part of it is, right, so staff could, staff could add sets, and how projects meet sets into our staff and board. That'd be perfect. Well, from this more time for staff. Right. But if it's just setting it up to begin with, once you set it up, once you become more familiar with it yourself, it being easier. Well, it's also that it's evident that no one reads my staff. So, um, Ryan, I would you know for me that spend an extra hour to then quote the SEDs and the conglomerate. It just is not feasible right now at the city and that you know that comes down to staff. What would it be? Wait until we get a city manager. Wouldn't it be smart on our behalf to come up, take his advice and make this third or fourth grade? Yes. Simplify the five goals, right? First then create some kind of cell sheet pamphlet, something, actually go back and update it since it hasn't been updated. With the things we know should be updated before we worry about taking it to making council. And by then, hopefully we'll have a city manager. So when we do have a city manager, we can turn over document that is updated and complete. And then we can get on to agenda to make sure that the council and the mayor can have something that is. We're looking at the update. We just received it from Kim Lee Horn. Okay. Has the council seen this? So that's the most updated one we got right now. Right now. So I'm sorry. go ahead very quick AI pretty I can use the tool I mean you know scan the document in and have it to bullet points or you know you can prompt it to say simplify to third grade level yeah I mean not and if the City doesn't have that tool available to them, you know, it should, right? So I think we have a motion that was carried. Would you read that back to me, please? I just want to get us back kind of on track before and not that we weren't, but I agree with AI. I'll take a shot at it. I have AI on. It just downloaded it. Yes. So what I have written down because I was trying my best, but it was. We were very spirited. That's it. So I have recommend that City Council approve training for pertinent boards. That would review the said review the said sets, yep. That's what I have. And then when she goes back in those minutes, she'll get the actual verbatim motion for this. Any signature for a review? I mean, does anybody think that's important that people acknowledge that they've read it and reviewed it? You've made a point by nobody reads notes. But if you have to sign something, it may or may not read it, but it really forces you to go, let me take a look at it, I'm putting my name on it, just by opinion. Zero accountability. Exactly. And I'm not saying a signature, it just says, I acknowledge I have read and reviewed the edge water sense. Okay, we can start right here with this board after we make this vote. So can we amend that or just do another motion? Okay, does anybody have a motion for a signature agreeing that I have read, reviewed, and agreed to support? Red review, agreed to support. Red review agreed to support. Oh, make that motion. Thank you. Second. Okay, Nairis. Mike. Oh, Mike. Okay, sorry. So I saw both of you, Miles. You were second. Yes. Okay. Chairwoman Cruz. Yes. Ms. Jamison. Yes. Mr. Inman. Yes. Kelly, Ms. Power. Yes. And that was to have some type of signature for the annual review. Okay. Confirming that they have read it and support it. Red review support. Review. I don't know if I can make them support it. Okay. I don't know if it's a make but it's just so when does it become all in black when we finish when I'm I'm just curious. That's what it becomes so black. And it's 24 pages. Come on. Yeah. That's it. I mean, it's a lot. Well, no, I'm saying it's it's not as a blueprint for the city. It's not. It's not a grigis to ask. True. Anyone. It would help people make their voting decisions and questions. How about give them freezes that they can use? Yeah. It gives them a supporting document. Well, for the For the SEDS, this support, you know, the goals of the city, the strategic direction of the city. So, Bliss, you were starting something else. I was just going to say that this board finds first or something. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. We need to finish it. We have not reviewed this document in at least two, maybe three years. Sure. Let's do it. Send it out where we read it in sign up. Which is why I wanted to read 24 pages. Bring us back and say this is our bubble. So I'm going to do this first. I need to update a few more things. Let me put track changes in where I'm going to add updates. I'm not actually going to add them yet because I'd take too long. I'm just going to add in all print to PDF so that you can see the notes on my track changes and all of just add notes in what I'm going to change and that way we have that review because there's other things in here that still need to be updated. Okay I'm Ryan if you can bring everybody up to date because the the goal was to you know reintroduce this and have everybody understand that it's going to impact the comp plan and the land use development. Well, the nice thing to know is that really based on what people have said in the comp plan, maybe beyond some challenges to infill on U.S. 1 in the compatibility there. I mean, a lot of these goals are exactly what the public wants. So it's just like develop a downtown edgewater. I mean that's been in the SEDS. It's been in we've had the vision study since 2008. It's like okay well let's just change the land development code in the comp plan to get this Ske. I mean, that's always been, again, going back to, there's never any, we have all these things, but we never put it into a fact where it then has teeth. And so we're staring at it like, oh, since 2008, we've been saying we want it downtown. Yes. And that's not a new goal I I put it there That's been the goal since 2010 when this first was adopted And a community center. Yeah, and a community center I mean all of these things which we reaffirmed in the 1300 response from survey from Kimmy Horn is the public still wants community center So it's like we know these things. We just need to work towards them. We need to ensure that people understand this is a roadmap. But isn't every year or every time the council changes or the mayor changes or this four changes that we have different direction. In the pod list for bringing this up, the review and this kind of discussion should happen with all key members in the city of our area. And our partners in the Lucia, I got a card for you to send me your sids and I'll take a look at the simplicity. I can run this through. You can do the rest of the changes, but this list or goal list, I can run it through AI and see how it is or just, you know, run it through Rebecca. Doesn't mean it's changed or adopted, but anyway. Very spirited discussions, so thank you everybody. I think that somewhere we agreed this board will be the first to have a review, an agreement which I think would kind of review the two sign that there is support, whether that word is appropriate use I think support works for me. Anything else? Ryan, when are you going to have your draft of the comp plan. I just got to get published by I think the latest all will be the 30th. Given everything going on you think you'll make that deadline. Okay. So everybody needs to put that in their calendar and be reviewing that when it comes out. On the 30th of this month. Yes. And that will come out how. It'll get a publisher for the workshop. We'll make an agenda and publish it online. Okay. And then that final kind of the rough draft. Two meetings I have. We'll have this room broken out with staff members to kind of. I'll have for now some of the documents. Kind of go through different. There's different things that people want to see things. And then is there a process from that meeting going forward before you? There's supposed to be a workshop with the council. will need to be happening in June because then it would need to go, you know, the timeline is super tight. You know, I don't even know if a workshop in council would be possible at this point. Considering they're not here in May. So I think it has to go to planning in Zoning in July to make the December deadline. To make the December deadline? Correct. So because it's a large, we're are mending our compliance. So it's considered a large skill compliment amendment. It has to be sent to the state for the state review process. And it has to be sent to Bush County, or as a management. And so what's wrong if you missed your December deadline? Well, that was the goal by the council and the set-up on the staff was to get the comp plan and the land development code updated before the end of the morning. Well, they had more time done until the end of February. No, January 6th. Oh, OK. Well, I don't see how the council can vote on a comp plan amendment if they haven't had a workshop to understand what it is. They're going to vote on. I don't know if that's our decision, but I can go for it. It's not, but it's something that the public needs to be aware of, which we are part of the public. And, you know, that's another reason that's being brought to your attention today. So is there a recommendation, Ryan, from you? Not that we have anything that it may be January before its finalized because we need to have a Council commission review before we can publish the changes, a workshop, sorry. Yeah, I mean, maybe the workshops, it would have to be in June, the workshop would have to be in June, and then subsequently, yeah, it would have to be in June, so it would probably have to be before that June meeting. So the June meeting would be June 2nd? Yeah, so that would probably be a good workshop. We don't have any control over any of this. I agree. I think it was just a suggestion. And we need a city manager. Yes. I can't say that often enough. So it is 9.15. Is there any other discussion on this item? Oh. A motion or anything? No. But, yes, we're going to have 30 minutes next time. Yes. I'm OK with a little longer. We don't have huge agenda. This is an important part of not just ours. But by the next meeting, I'll send out something. I'll take a look at that. And just making this more bullet point. And I will say the city really, I mean we got a lot of things to update so we're updating the compland land development code. We need to update our water supply our bike and trails and parks master plan is to be updated for a while. So you know, there's quite a bit of things that you can have in the process. The first one would be, sitting manager, helping people understand the best thing, and then maybe some addition, and of course, making the decision on support. All right, so, anything else on SEDS right now, other than Ryan will dedicate another 30 minutes for review discussion at our next meeting And then I think we have the scholarship awards coming out. I said I think in the last one that I would attend new Samurna Don't know if anybody was attending Burns, I'll be a bird. Okay. I will do all hats. That's fine. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else from our, Mr. Reddy had our public discussion? Anything else from anybody on the board? I believe all of you should have received an invite for me for the spring community connect meeting. This is something that we, they don't say college, launched last year. Pretty much a meeting of the minds we bring together DSC administrators and academic leaders as well as community leaders. And it's an opportunity for the community and stakeholders to voice what it is that they need what, how we can help meet those needs. So very excited to have that. It's May 20th from one to three. If I'm not mistaken, lunch will be provided. And right up the street, they don't stay college. Thank you. Any other board reports? Bliss? I'll come back to you. Anything else in there? Mike? Or Marl? Christine? Nope. Thank you. Nothing from me, Bliss. We're back. Yes? I don't know. Hey, do you have a couple of updates? OK. Sorry. first podium again. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Yes, Lou Peres again. Two things quickly. I heard a couple of times mention aerospace and aviation and I am glad to inform you that next week for the quarterly breakfast that will be precisely the topic. We have three speakers. We have Cyrus Calowne, as the director of Aviation Economic Resources for Volusia County, talking about the state of aviation at the Daytona Beach Airport. Then we're gonna have a presentation by Boeing and kind of bringing the community up the speed with their coming to town and what's it called a department? It's a defense and cybersecurity I think. It's what the focus of that division specifically is. And a representative of Aura Arrow, which is the French aircraft manufacturer coming to town, again, also offering an update on their efforts to finalize their plans to establish themselves in Daytona Beach. So that's one update. The other one is you may have heard that Volusia County has taken over the management of the business incubator next to the airport. it's a mutual agreement. It was a long time in the making, where when the incubator was established by UCF, there wasn't really an ecosystem of entrepreneurship in the community. I mean, there were things, but there were a little bit disjointed, and UCF really helped bring that together and do more of it. Think about 1 million cups, think about Kickstarter weekend, think about Elevate Daytona. All these things came about really, to some extent, as a result of UCF's participation and involvement in the community. Now, as any market in the world, things evolve and now we have a robust ecosystem. And we've noticed a need to expand to services a little bit broader for the community. So this was reflected in seeing that they're really good at incubating businesses that are high tech. And we were noticing that we had to expand to other kinds of lifestyle businesses and the quintessential example that we were using were plumbers. If a plumber were to come over and request help, this should be something we should be able to do for that person. The example that I jokingly used all the time was Frank Gay that you hear about in the news all the time, they have been expanding. So why not give that same opportunity to people who want to expand their businesses, their lifestyle businesses? And so in the new forum of the, let me, it's, it will call in it right now a Devolution Innovation Hub, Business Innovation Hub. We will continue to incubate as businesses, as UCF has been doing it, but now we're gonna have more programs that will be broader, so any kind of business can knock on our door and receive the help they need. And I'll make a pollster to see if you have any questions. Yeah, we're super, I mean thrilled. And this is the transition is taking place June 15th. So we're moving at the speed of light, as much as government can move at the speed of light to make things happen and to have the transition ready. But the agreement has already been signed, but in agreed upon by both the county and UCF, we remain partners. And in fact, we expect them to be with us often. You know, I, I, the, the new director of that of that program is someone who I speak with regularly and someone who I expect to see using the office space that we have at the UCF incubator or what will be now the Volusia business innovation hub. Thank you. I have a question for you. Yes. What is the unemployment rate right now? 4.4.2 so it's stabilized. Well it actually the employment went up and so if you were to look at the graph in the last bit you would see sort of a straight line ish pattern so that's good and, the spite, the fact that we added, uh, more people to the workforce, which is, you know, which obviously tells you that we added way more jobs. So still very low. Thank you. It is very low. I'm, I'm of the opinion that if you go way below that, if you go 3.5 and below, finding employees becomes a challenge. So we're, we're in a great place now. And that's one of the numbers that I'll be sharing with the community next week on Friday. Oh, on your website, don't you also have a place for workers to post resumes or something? Yeah, well, are you of career source maybe? Because that would be our de facto partner for anything, and play Florida. They have their robust website and basically they tie anything that smells like a job. It's basically centralized in that location. As you know, there was a merger for career source. Was it this year or last year, at this point, yes. And we're Brevard, Volusia and Flavgar and now the same region. And they are doing a great job considering the challenges. I mean, they have had their budget reduced year after year, about something to a tune of 30%. So yeah, it's rough. I don't know if Lissie were referring to, we had another, through career source, and we were also involved in this. We had another platform. I forget the name specifically, but it was meant to be kind of like a blind way to connect employers with employees that you would only be able to see their skill set as opposed to any other information about them. That platform after launched did not receive the traction that the community expected. It was close to honestly zero. So sometime last year we basically stopped using it just because I mean we spoke with job seekers and businesses and it just unfortunately no attraction. Great concept but execution seemed to be I don't know. Okay. Yeah. I apologize. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Oh, sorry. Ocean to adjourn.