Good afternoon again. I am now going to reconvene the community redevelopment agency meeting that was temporarily adjourned earlier and will now proceed with the agenda. So the first thing we're going to do, would everyone please stand for the stands, one nation under the law, indivisible with the liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Miss Siddons, would you please call the roll? Chair Nakhlas, here. Vice Chair Thompson. Thankful to be here. Commissioner Drucker, here, Commissioner Singer. Here. Commissioner Wigter. Here. All present. Thank you. Mr. Brown, are there any amendments to the agenda? Okay, thank you and are there any corrections to the minutes of the regular meeting of November 4th 2024 Madam Shari move adoption of the minutes is presented thank you and mr. Wigter all in favor Okay, thank you as minutes are adopted we have two presentations today the first one is an update on East Palmetto Park Road by all to design and planning. And municipal services director Zach Beer will give the presentation accompanied by members of the all to planning and design team. Good afternoon, Mr. Beer. Good afternoon, Sierra, Chair, Hacklis, and board members. Again, Zach Beary, municipal services director. I'm joined by Aliyah Al-Wad, and we will be providing our most comprehensive update before you today for East Palm Metal Park Road concepts and the options that will be evaluating. Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you so much for having us here today. We're very excited to provide an update on the Downtown Mobility Study, specifically on the latest on the East Pole Motor Park Road concepts and another progress update. So we're going to start with a brief summary of the community engagement efforts that we've done in the past for this project. We're going to do a brief recap of all the different data points that we've collected to provide you all with a trade-off analysis and then the different concepts that were developed for the corridor. So just briefly, as you all know, we spent the months between March and May of this year conducting different community engagement events. Our goal was to reach the community at large and hear from everyone both digitally and as in person. We also presented two different boards and we had the opportunity to host or the city that knocked a workshop where we also gathered some input. One of the community engagement effort that we undertook was an online survey. And what that showed us that there were, you know, a few overarching themes that we heard from the community. Generally, it was concerns about congestion and parking, but also the need for an enhanced pedestrian realm that once hand in hand with the need for more shade. We were provided with different concepts and visions from the community as well. And so we reviewed those, we also heard from different members of the community about different concepts like, for example, the Highline Design in New York City. Different ideas that could potentially be brought to Palmetta Park Road. So I hope that as you see the different concepts that are presented in this presentation, you'll see that we try to capture Some of this input and apply a feasibility lens, you know, to try to see what could be implemented. And so based on the varied community input we received, you know, there were, as I mentioned, high level themes of the different concerns and needs and visions from the community. And so what we did is translate that into overall themes that we used basically to do the trade-off analysis of the different concepts. And so as you can see here, the city's vision zero offer was used as a measurement tool, but also we looked at traffic parking impacts, shade and walkability, emergency access and evacuation out. And one thing to point out is the overall takeaway from the community input is that we received input opinions on both sides basically just wanting to with different needs. And so that was a really interesting and challenging perspective that we started with in terms of the needs of the community. It also speaks to the functionality of Paul Matto Park Road, serving different needs and different users. So, you know, as I mentioned, we collected different data points. We looked at a variety of elements. First and foremost is safety. In the last five years between 2018 and 2023, almost 1900 crashes occurred in downtown. And I can tell you just for from a relative perspective that's quite a lot of crashes. And six people have died, lost their lives during those crashes, which certainly is not acceptable. And we looked at where those hotspots are happening, especially along Palma de Park Road. And what we found is there were a few intersections where the crashes were higher than average, and they were more severe. And those were the Dixie highway and the US one intersections with Palma de Park. Of course, vulnerable road users, pedestrians and bicyclists do tend to be overrepresented in those crashes. I do want to commend the city on their Vision Zero efforts thus far starting back in 2022 with the adoption of the Vision Zero Resolution up to just recently this year getting awarded a $4 million demonstration project grant through the Safe Streets for All Program. It was the second one of two largest awards during that funding cycle, which really speaks to the city's commitment to improving safety across the city. We looked at parking as part of our evaluation to really kind of look in terms of what's out there in supply. We reviewed previous studies that have been done. What is, you know, the utilization along East Palmetto Park Road, you know, to really understand what the picture looks like and what the options are for the current parking spaces along Palmetto and found that even during peak times there were available spots along Palmetto Park Road and you'll see, you know, what that means later on in the presentation when we talk about the concepts. And then lastly in terms of the data collection effort, I just wanted to end on this slide which basically shows you where the trips are going and coming from along Palma de Park Road. Generally speaking, half of the people using Palma de Park Road are either intending to go in and out of downtown specifically to destinations within downtown. And then 43% though are just passing through downtown area and so that's kind of another example of the diversity of the corridor and its purpose in really serving residents from across the city. So now I'm gonna get into some of the concepts that we have developed for Palma de Park Road. We thought about the different potential options for the corridor. Well, of course, this is a visioning exercise at this point. We did apply a feasibility lens to some of them. Those, the ones that seem to be potentially implementable on a shorter term. And then like I mentioned before, we also wanted to take into consideration what we heard from the community. And so you'll see kind of the variation in those different options. Just to start off, this is what's out there right now. Basically we were dealing with 70 feet of public right away. Pretty much along most of the quarter. In the next few options, we're going to be focusing on the section between East of US 1, 2, 5th Avenue, and I'll touch later on the section West of US 1. But basically, as you all know, it's five lanes of roadway with some later on the section west of US1, but basically as you all know, it's five lanes of roadway with some parking on the sides and then some sidewalk. As you can see here, the amount of sidewalk and shade varies across the corridor in some spaces. It's definitely more navigable. There's room for potentially additional shade structures. But in other areas, the sidewalk width is pretty much the minimum for feet. So, you know, one of the first options we looked at is what we called an enhanced Palmetto Park option. What this does is we're not taking away any travel lanes. However, in terms of the on-street parking that's out there, are there any spaces that have the potential to be repurposed for a wider sidewalk and or landscaping? And so this is what this option is presenting with keeping in mind that we didn't determine exactly how many spaces would be repurposed. It's really more about the concept of proposing that. There are areas that have valet parking that we would need to maintain. We wanted to present a few different angles on what that looks like. And so this is the aerial view of that enhanced Palmetto Park option. Generally speaking, it's really the idea of integrating more shade trees and where that's not possible due to the space then kind of complementing that with hard, you know, shade structures to really provide that element that the community, you know, make clear that is needed for the corridor. We also formalized some of the crosswalks, especially across Palmetto near first Ave, where pedestrians often cross to access Sanborn Square. So really kind of formalizing a lot of these crossing and trying to make it safer for navigating Palmetto Park Road regardless of how you move. And so as I said, the amount of mediums and trees that could vary as we get deeper into design. So we also provided a street level rendering of what that could potentially look like. I had mentioned that there are some sections along Palmetto that allow for a little bit more integration of landscape. And so what that offers is buffer from the travel lanes and potentially some seating and public art. The next option we looked at is that, you know, removing only one eastbound lane. And so basically out of the five lanes, you would repurpose one of the eastbound lanes to gain more space for green infrastructure and also sidewalk space, you know, inching more towards enhanced pedestrian realm. And in this option as well, we're introducing the flex zone, if you will. And what that really speaks to is that the curbside, you know, really curbside management, the curbside could be repurposed, whether depending on the peak times during the day, or it could be based on the day of the week. And so there are different uses that could be introduced in that space. And one of them could remain as parking. Again, you know, the area level view of what that looks like and really the main difference is that you would have more space for that greenery. You would be able to integrate more shade trees. It would provide more of a pedestrian feel and walkability throughout most of the corridor. And again, we provided a street level rendering for that. And the main difference is that you have definitely more space, buffer between the travel lanes and the pedestrian way. So you tend to feel that kind of safer, more enjoyable walking experience, and also an actually wider pathway. That could integrate chase structures, larger shade trees, and public art. So this is the option where basically to gain, to maximize the pedestrian realm and the shade in the infrastructure, basically removing one lane in each direction. And so you end up with a total of three lanes, which includes the turn lanes, instead of the currently, the current five lanes that are out there. Same concept for parking. That could be repurposed and used to be really kind of dialed in as we get deeper into the design if this option were to be chosen. This is how it would look like at the street level. As you can see, that's pedestrian space with shade trees, you know, native trees and seating and public art and feel would be felt on both sides of the street with the extra space. And then of course, the crossing distance would be a lot smaller. The last cross section that I wanted to present in this particular section of the presentation and involves no moving of the actual curb line, but rather it's more of reprogramming the travel lanes, the outside travel lanes. So during certain times of the day, that off peak or even certain times, days of the week, you would basically convert the outside lanes into parking. And so there are different ways to actually implement that, but this is more of basically a policy, you know, change that would put this in effect rather than a reconstruction. So I wanted to go through some of the trade-off analysis of those main sections and then I will go through the rest of the concepts that we thought through. You know, I had mentioned that the concepts that I presented thus far were east of US1. The main reason is that unfortunately the space between Dixie and US1 is extremely constrained in terms of right away with the presence of the railroad tracks right there at Dixie. It presents a lot of challenges in terms of what really could be done realistically. It's a very short segment as well. However, as I showed earlier, the safety is a major issue at those two intersections. So there are still things that could be done like pinching the curbs in, basically creating a tighter curve that will make cars slow down. Our analysis showed that a lot of these crashes are happening because of turning movements. But you see the pink pathways are showing that trucks are still able to make those turns. And city staff is actually in conversations with the DOT right now on the US1 project, which is currently going through a redesign to try to come up with the DOT right now on the US1 project, which is currently going through redesign to try to come up with a best possible design for the intersection that would make it safer. And so in terms of traffic impacts, you know, we looked at the different, at the four different options or three rather from a traffic analysis perspective, and applied, you know, standard practice, engineering analysis, traffic analysis, and, you know, we ran it through the program and currently between Second Avenue, and almost, you know, just used a Fifth Avenue, you've got almost five minutes of travel time. Naturally, in 20 years, there's going to be growth, right, in population. So even if all the lanes were to stay, we would expect some additional delay. If we were to remove only one of the lanes, which is one of the eastbound lanes, then we would encounter an additional minute of delay. And of course, a full road diet would have a more significant impact. And so it's important to kind of clarify that these times are averages. They also looked at a certain snapshot of the day, which is the PM pick hour, the afternoon pick hour, which tends to be basically the worst time of the day. However, you know, the range would be basically plus or minus the times that you see up here. In terms of parking, you know, the biggest thing to point about parking is that there is the current supply that's out there, and there's also the different policies programming and you know repurposing of what's out there and really you know integrating things like way finding and other elements that would make it easier to find parking. There's also a lot of technologies out there like parking management strategies that integrate pricing mechanisms that would help manage the parking. One thing to point out about Palmetto Park Road specifically is that the highest supply of parking is currently in Meisner Park and Royal Palm Place. And so it's not adjacent to Pal, Palm Edo Park Road per se. And so those are the things that we can start to think about as we get into more details of design. Oh, and the last item I wanted to, sorry. It's not going back. Oh, here. The last item that I wanted to point out about this slide is that the city, of course, launched the Bokeh Connect. And it is certainly part of the conversation. It's still too early to tell, but a lot of there is ridership for sure that is being taken around downtown in a long poem battle. And so how that plays out could help really kind of think about the overall strategy for parking in downtown. We looked at shade high level, you how much more shade than what's out there you would get with each of those options. And then, you know, wanted to pause a little bit on this slide. It really kind of lays out the trade-offs side by side. I mentioned earlier the different themes that we drew from what we heard from the community, the safety element that ties into the city's vision zero efforts, the traffic congestion concerns, the parking impacts of the different design options, the enhanced pedestrian realm that we heard from the community as a need, which is also associated with the need for additional shade. And then the public safety implications, whether that means emergency access, fire, police. And then of course the fact that Pomodopark Road is a designated evacuation route currently. And so one thing to point out here is that not one option is perfect for all these different trade-offs. At the end of the day, it is certainly a trade-off analysis. And how we move forward will have impacts regardless. And then you'll see that the further enhanced the pedestrian realm on both sides have similar trade-offs. But of course, the more you reclaim for pedestrians, the more benefits for pedestrians and shade, however, the more impacts on traffic. So just to kind of going towards the end of the presentation, wanted to talk about a couple of other options that we actually looked through. One of them is what we call the Sunline and inspired by the Highline in New York City, which we heard a lot of the community members mentioned. We assume that basically the ad grade section for Palmao would stay the same between US 1 and 5th. And then the pedestrian and bicycle access would be provided through an elevated structure. And so we try to basically portray that in this concept where exactly it goes can be further designed along the way. But the idea is that you want to minimize the impacts on the ground. And perhaps, I don't know if you're familiar with the underlying, but, you know, that space underneath it could serve additional purposes. One thing to point out with this option is that, you know, their environmental implications, noise impacts, you're now at a second-story level, their cost implications as well. But we wanted to portray it, and of course, there's precedence. There are several cities besides New York City that have adopted that approach, especially when you have constrained public right away. A couple of final options we looked at are elevating Palmetto Park Road itself, basically for cars, where to actually do that and meet the minimum clearance requirements and you know, having you know, keep in mind that this is a really high feasibility, you know, not super detailed structural analysis. We would have to go all the way west of Second Avenue to achieve that elevation of the travel lanes and go all the way to Fifth Avenue. We did wanna acknowledge this option just from the sense of, it's obviously probably the most costly option, but you know, what it offers is that you're removing most of the cars of a palm-motor park road on the ground and then you're repurposing all of that extra space into bikes and pedestrian space. And finally, when we look at the impacts on Palmetto Park Road, it's part of a larger network. And so there are a lot of other roadways that get heavily impacted by whatever happens on Palmetto. And so we also looked at elevating Dixie itself. Of course, it's very close to the tracks that has a lot of actual feasibility implications and then heavy coordination with DOT in the county and cost. It would be cost prohibitive, but it is one of the thoughts that was put forward to alleviate the really congested area in that spot. And so in terms of next steps, what we are hoping to hear from you all, you know, in terms of what concepts can move forward towards additional feasibility and eventually design. I wanna emphasize that at this time, neither OTA or staff have a preferred concept per se. We wanted to hear your thoughts about those different options. We did kind of an initial feasibility. Moving forward with the specific options you recommend would give us the opportunity to kind of keep looking more in-depth. I touched a little bit on policy and programming, but a lot of these options would be coupled with policy changes that are needed, programmatic changes, whether on the curbside management or parking elements. And this is the slide where I wanted to end is really reiterating that Publ-A-Dapar Road is part of a larger ecosystem of the road-wide network in downtown. There are parallel streets to Palma de Parc Road that can serve as lower stress, if you will. Streets to bicyclists, for example, like second avenue, which I know the city is already working on, north south. The city is already working with US one, but Maizner Boulevard is a really high candidate for connecting the dots across downtown, making it safer to really navigate downtown by on foot or by bike. And so you know just wanted to end there with the idea that whatever we do on Paul Butter Park Road a downtown perspective is needed a master plan if you will overview is needed to really continue to evaluate it. With that I would like to thank you for your time and open up for questions Thank you very much for that presentation Mr. Beer were you also doing a any kind of a presentation or no I wanted to let all to run through all the detailed analysis they've done I can just certainly add that staff has been engaged With an exceptional level of effort Even myself personally doing geometric designs for roundabouts, exploring that. And I do, some of those examples seem a little bit far fetched and at the same time, staff wanted to, obviously, Palmello is a chronic roadway quarter within the city. So give it a fresh look, in in earnest and really take every opportunity to look at all the possibilities and present that before council and then also try and identify those trade offs. And I think one of the things that isn't up on the screen is really the detailed level of the cost time quality project management hat, which you have the qualitative characteristics of the corridor to have a dialogue about, and then further analysis would be needed on the quantitative level to look at increase in costs, underground utilities, those existing engineering corridor opportunities. But that was the intent to have ALTA really look at the entirety of it and open up a dialogue with the board to have a discussion of which of any of those cross sections would be an opportunity or a candidate to further evaluate. Okay, thank you. So I'll open up for questions, Mr. Drucker. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for the presentation and thank you Mr. Bear because I know that when we when we started this process I guess maybe a year ago or maybe six months and all come together We had asked for bold we had asked for what are you going to put out we want to see it all even if it's bold and that was produced in the presentation And I know that you're not going to make some recommendations but I've had conversations with Mr. Brown and I've had conversations with Mr. Beer leading up to this meeting. And what I kind of want to, it's not a specific question for you, but for a second, I want to turn it over to this council. And really to the community, if you want to have vision zero and truly truly save lives, like public safety, we're going to have to make hard choices. I have said that before up here. We could do every study in the world, but if we're not willing to make the changes, we will never attain vision zero. So when I see some of these options, some of them I like better than others. And then others, I'm kinda like, they're kinda far-fetched, maybe that's not the way we should go. But we, this council, this body that does policy, needs to be behind it and make those difficult choices. If not, all we're doing is spinning our wheels. So with that said, I looked at some of these processes or whatever. No change. Also, I'll take a step back. We are going through a big change with the government center. We need to be aware of what that plan is gonna look like because it's gonna affect that corridor. It's gonna affect that whole interchangeable area. So maybe we do need a more, we are working on mobility plan. We need a mobility plan because it's going to affect everything. And for me, and also people are going to not like what I have to say next, but maybe it's not making a change right now, just until we figure out what this whole area is supposed to look like. The, can you put back the slides with the different ones with all that arrows up and down? I think it'll be easier to talk to Because the names are a little some of them don't like align I could see so That's the no-build The enhanced is basically just and please don't take offense to what I'm going to say next But it's just adding a bunch of canopy to the area. It's not really putting in Vision zero mobility connectivity to save lives. So I'm definitely not interested in adoption. Further enhanced in terms of the four that you kind of focused on, to me would be more of the recommended. And I understand that we have evacuation routes. And I understand that we have concerns with fire and ISO. But if we're committing to vision zero, we as a body and staff, city manager, we need to look at ISO, we need to look at the OEs that we've talked about recently because we're going to add more OEs in the downtown potentially. So we're almost kind of in that kind of, you know, in Passe in terms of what do we do? Do we can't sit here and say that if we start to save lives as vision zero, that we're going to impact police and evacuate, you know, I mean, fire and police. So I had asked from Mr. Beer a bunch of information on response time. A lot of data that I don't have yet, I don't know unless it came in this morning, for us to kind of look at and really be able to sit up here and have a productive conversation on which way we should move for visibility. I also had a conversation with him about all the other business partners that we have, like has a transit planning agency even seen this? They have not, I can answer that. How we talk to FDOT about this. So there is a lot of more work that in my opinion needs to be done before I can sit here and say, this is what we should be doing, because this is like you said, very preliminary. So again, this has been one of my efforts for four and a half years I've been pushing Vision Zero, but we need to commit to truly Vision Zero. And I know we have the policy and I'm so grateful we have the two awards and by the way, and the NLC, Boca Raton was a talk of the town when it came to the grant and all the things that I was invited to because of our infrastructure. So kudos to staff. We're just the policymakers. But we definitely have to have more, a better conversation even if it's a separate workshop. I don't know where I can hear from fire and I can talk to some of these other entities. And then us, how are we going to fix this? If not, we're never going to make the change. We're just not going to get there. We're going to continue to lose lives. That's just my preliminary. Thank you, Mr. Wager. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Wager, for those heartfelt words. Actually, what I felt was the most important part of the presentation was the very last, very, very last sentence that you said, which I took to heart, which says a downtown master plan is needed, which echoes obviously what Deputy Mayor Drucker said in our discussions on mobility and the ideas potentially of embracing having a mobility plan which could embrace us having a mobility fee, which is just again the Florida legislature just passed a clarification for us to be able to fund those things with a separate alternative mobility fee. So certainly I'm in favor of this downtown master plan happening and of course it working together with what we're doing in the government campus. Before I get to some just specific things that I thought about again one of the things that I see here if you just I don't know if you have just a layout of the map of the whole of that whole section over there, but again, you know, of course the connection to federal and Dixie I mean, it's unbelievable as we're standing there. They just fly, it's almost like when they see the light is green, they think they're at the racetrack. You know, I mean, that's how it feels. But the point is there's no mid-block crossings. There's no crosswalks until you get to Northeast Astrite. So again, and Myzner Park is supposed to be our grandest destination. So why would you want to just fly by it? You know, we should change the name of Federal Highway. It shouldn't be a highway anymore. Not downtown. Not to be coy, but the point is the cars are driving way too fast, just flying through the downtown. The downtown is a residential neighborhood right now. When you look at these issues, I definitely don't think we should be staying the same. But again, the other things if you drive downtown or walk downtown or bike downtown as we do, for some reason many, many people who are driving and I understand lots of people are in rush But it's they're racing to get to this bridge and when they get off this bridge It's as if they're racing to drive into the Atlantic Ocean Okay, there's no there's nothing stopping or slowing them down, right? There's nothing It's just it's a highway. It's a four and a half lane highway to drive into the Atlantic Ocean. So doing something that's disconjoined, again, without acknowledging, let's say you did remove all those lanes and made it, okay, then right when they get to the bridge, it's gonna be, because that's county, right? Right when they get to the bridge, it's gonna be four lanes. So again, as we've learned from our mobility director and Jeff Speck and everyone else, if you give people more lanes and wider lanes, they're going to speed up, they're going to drive fast. So if you're giving them two extra lanes when they get to the bridge, you're asking them to speed, when they get to that bridge. Likewise, when they get off the bridge, you're asking the populace to speed. So again, we have to look at the other side of the bridge too. I like the intersections, that's huge. Again, if you think about what Myzner Park is, again Myzner Park eventually will need some reimagining as well. But Myzner Park has two lanes of traffic in one direction and two lanes of traffic in another direction and parking on each. So two lanes of traffic in theory those cars could go faster, but they don't. And the reason why they don't is because it's cobblestones, right? It's bricks. There's lots of places to cross. The lanes are now, everything is traffic calming. So I think that has to be in the mindset of whatever we're trying to do here. Can you go to page 12? Sure. Here, presentation. Other way. Do you know if I can go out there? Sorry. Not the most Dexavi 12. Page 12. Yes, you talked about traffic data That's page 5 slowing down There you go, thank you So again what we're learning here. I'd love to see the data 20 years ago and the data today compared to today But one of the things that we're talking about, and now over the last 20 X years, there's 3,000 units or so downtown. Downtown has become a pedestrian neighborhood, so it makes sense that 50% of the trips are staying within the downtown. They're people driving from downtown to downtown, right? So again, as we push the Connect program, as we push the Shuttle program, if we can give the people who already live downtown opportunities to not use their cars, apparently the data shows here that 50% of the people will take us up on it. And so again, which will reduce traffic, which will reduce accidents. And, but likewise, when we think about policy decisions, it also means we do not need a suburban parking structure. A parking regime, as we do not need one per 300 downtown anymore because if half the trips are originating and staying in downtown in theory we need half the trips of a suburban parking policy regime. So when we look at this holistic you know program of what we're looking to do I certainly hope we think about reducing parking requirements in the downtown Because again the people who live down there they you know, they they want to you know They want to stay down there people are embracing this 15-minute cities thing so it's you know, I think it's critical So Commissioner we just a quick point of clarification on that the trips within downtown is 5% The trips coming from outside the downtown into the downtown is 52%. So we still have a lot of vehicle traffic driving into and looking for a destination downtown to utilize it and then 43 moving through. So we're working on that number, but I do think the place to find while I think they're obviously it's a future thinking of what that will look like, but for now, you know, 95% of people are still utilizing a car to get into the downtown and the, you know, the success of Maising or having them park in the garage and have that pedestrian experience is part of that. And you've got that to me going through this whole process again, this striking part was the call at the parking desert along Palmello. Not that you want to invite people to park on Palmello itself, but if you're going out to Luff's or one of the other restaurants or something there, you know, it's either street parking or parking all the way back at the kind of western portion and walking down Palmello possible, but I think less likely than that that kind of shorter duration or some of those things. So I think for staff it was big to see that really evaluating what that parking looks like and thinking about that from the perspective of tying it into the call it zones or hubs of where activities are happening is an important component. No it's a good point but again you know if we could show that the people living downtown will stay out of their cars. If we give them alternative opportunities to not get in their cars, it's showing that we can do this. It's not just everyone driving in. A lot of the people are already there. They're just driving around. So again, it's people embrace the connect. It's people embrace alternative things as we do more. We can give them opportunities not to increase, not use their cars and that's that's important to but yeah, certainly obviously changing where the parking is and just keeping it off of Palmetto is something I see Important yeah, I mean obviously the discussions on elevating Palmetto and all the you you know, the high line stuff that's happening in big, giant cities, you know, are things that might not be on our radar now, but in the future as we do a downtown master plan and a, you know, a government campus master plan, you know, you never know if a certain portion of that plan is elevated, you know, it might lead into a very thoughtful pedestrian or bridge. And maybe that bridge is not on all of Palmetto. Maybe that bridge is just over federal highway and Dixie highway, which are the critical traffic components. So, you know, certainly I'm in favor. If you go to the map with the arrows up and down, or the page page please. Certainly I'm in favor of doing something that's more than no build. It cannot continue the same way. It's got to be thoughtful, well planned out. Enhanced might be the first step, and then we can go further enhanced as we want to. But understanding traffic calming is not necessary traffic elimination, so the barrier around people would still have a way to get off. The emergency services would still have a way to get through without interruption. And certainly evacuation routes would not be compromised. But reprogramming especially intersections and certainly enhanced build is a way to start and considering around about certain places. Thanks very much. Thank you Mr. Wigtter. Mr. Wigtcher. Mr. Wigtcher. Yes, please. Thank you, Madam Chair. First, I agree with my colleagues. There's a lot of information to process today, and we need a lot more. And I'm going to ask for some questions on safety and impact. looking at a nine-minute increase in just a five-block stretch in a short order, which is not sustainable. So in 20 years, no doubt, but in 20 years, but that gets you on a path. So luckily this is in binary. There's lots of different levers, and I want to try to get to a couple. But I grew with Ms. Drucker that we need more information today, and I know there's a group here who's eager to present some stuff and apparently they got a lot more information earlier than some of us got it, so be it. And I don't want to see this like a rebuttal, it's just a food for thought which I think we need to consider. Mr. Beer, could you come back to the slide that talked about the two crashes and you were saying, it seemed that there was a suggestion of some a quicker fix now because I've always liked trying to get Efficiencies and ROI there was the slide where you're coming from a two bicycle accidents around the curves at Dixie and federal I believe That was that this line. Yeah No, there was a later one where you had a P. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what can we do now in terms of tightening curves? Is this something we can do that doesn't dramatically impact, doesn't cost, you know, inordinate sums, doesn't dramatically impact the flow, doesn't impact the time going through and also emergency access. Because it's related to me simply and to the public simply. Are there things we can do the way we did down at Mazr Bullivard and Federal Highway to kind of create a safer curve? Can we do that here? Certainly, this is an area where I would highly recommend regardless based on the crash history that was identified to do these improvements. And staff spent probably a day and a half, and then we had a three hour session with myself and all the traffic staff and the DOT to just talk about Palmetto and Federal and really try and come up with all possible options because it is a very constraint ride away section. And at the same time, we recognize, I personally saw the fatal crash that happened there of a person on an electric bike that came up in the right lane, in the cycle lane, and then somebody making the right turn in a vehicle. And those things, adding safety into that corridor and looking at that for a major enhancement is something where adding safety for bicycle lanes and all pedestrian users is important. So yes, in that corridor, it's in that section, it's doable and specifically the result brought it up is from federal. That's going to be part of the FDOT lane repurposing that's happening on that corridor. So staff is working with them right now to put in design elements and then also to Commissioner Wigdor's note, we've got them generally to agree to a pedestrian signal across from the Mice Nurkirages, so they're adding that in with a pedestrian crosswalk. So each one of those things staff is evaluating it in detail and adding kind of incremental improvements. And so I think if the ask is are there incremental improvements that can happen on Palm Meadow? Yes, they are and that if any direction on that staff would be interested in getting that feedback today. Well, thank you. When you say incremental, like I'm actually seeing it as greater, you've identified pinpoints of the most at risk. It can be focused on these at-risk regions and do it more effectively in terms of time and cost, particularly in the fact that we're already doing road work or F-dots going to be doing road work in 26 as part of our complete streets plan on federal. It seems like this would tie in and we get a large high ROI. I don't want to use the expression bank for the buck, but because different context from Eisenhower saying it, and we don't want any of that sort of stuff, but can we get high ROI here on this and try to delve into these more concerning areas now? I mean, I think certainly from a focus area, it's a part of the overall pomato corridor. So what I would say yes, with also coming on board, part of their RFP was for the overall, downtown enhancement, and we're expecting to issue additional task orders to them. And I would say it doesn't necessarily have to be a linear process. It can be in parallel looking at individual intersection improvements or, like I said, I think the federal portion is best served tying into the DOT process. So I think that's something where that'll take places part of that project. But certainly the Dixie and Palmetto is something we can evaluate. Very well. And then could you just walk through briefly some of the concerns you'd send an email I think on Friday. Could you walk through some of those concerns that you could identify? They were touched on and altered, but I'd like to hear them from staff and staff's perspective on some of the challenges we're dealing with. Yeah, so for that we sent a note on Friday and just addressing some of the other information that went out. We were asked for public records and complied with public records requests. So I do apologize if anything happens to get sent out in advance of Council seeing it at the same time we try and balance that with public records request to comply. And then also ask those to get the information that they treat it carefully so we can have an appropriate dialogue in the public arena. But we, the update for Friday's information was kind of elaborating on the details of, I will not mince words on this one moment of Palmetto. It is the most complicated corridor in the city, from the city's perspective, with a massive number of users, and any changes to Palmetto Park Road will be very difficult and be painful. That is the reality of Palmetto Park Road will be very difficult and be painful. That is the reality of Palmetto Park Road. They are doable. I think there is enhancements that can be made. I also will openly admit that changes could enhance the pedestrian realm. It's just the thinking from a collective combination of utilities that are underground, the existing sidewalks, the business owners, the parking spaces, the existing crossings and infrastructure. I went in and made sure I studied history on it. I think it doesn't predict the future, but it informs. Palmetto has been developing this way for 70 years. I think to kind of change it rapidly is an option, but would be very dramatic to do that, versus kind of setting a master plan of a kind of bending the curve of a direction where Palmetto goes. So the reason I give that backstory is you have fire. Fire stations 1, 2, and 3. So the original fire stations of the city, fire station 1 is at Glades and Federal. That's the apparatus that responds to high structure fires and intense fires that happened in the downtown. There was one recently very close to Palmejo and A1A that was a very large structure fire that fire the fire department had to respond to. So then back up is Fire Station 3 that's on the beach. Their apparatus is mainly focused on ocean rescue and other activities and then fire station three is down Palmetto. But all of those have very heavy activities that happen in the downtown and if we made decisions to change Palmetto we would have to have very detailed operational discussions with our public safety operational folks to figure out what that would look like. Make sure we had advanced plans. Same with the police department. They have different zones where they're gonna respond to and from and making sure we have the appropriately zoned areas based on any changes that we have. Then this roadway is characterized as an evacuation route. So staff noted that in the event that there were changes to the evacuation route, we would have to meet with the Department of Emergency Management and make a determination on how that might impact the overall evacuation or if there was changes to the plans. And then recently in 2021, there was an update to the state statutes. So above all things, it dictates in the state statutes that if there are changes to roadway corridors that the staff has to do a full traffic analysis and notify every business owner of such change that's going to happen to the lane configuration. So I think, I guess the point being is, I think those elements, they're not concerns, but those are all the things in the timeline of activities that would take place to reimagine what the Palme de Corridor would look like from an operations perspective. So staff was just, staff was noting those as we have the full discussion about it to be able to get into the dialogue of the complexity of the corridor. And Ms. Rucker made the point about potentially adding OEs. We also have a counter-reling issue if roadways are changed and the traffic is baked into the overall DRI that may create challenges with the reduction in OE's and stakeholders not being happy about that to the point of being greatly unhappy about that and taking appropriate action. That's another factor that has to be weighed in too. There's a very complicated tableau and I appreciate you're waiting through all of it. For those reasons I think Mr. Rucker's point was silly that I don't know if we're going to land exactly tonight yet, but this is a dialogue that will continue. And speaking of the dialogue, I'm gonna have to beg your pardon in advance, Madam Chair, and everyone else, they're being able to point in this afternoon when I had to step out early and I'm telling anyone now, I'm not doing any response to any individual speaker. I just have to be mindful of the clock and another commitment. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Singer, Mr. Thompson. is a bit of valuable conversation. I appreciate Alta's work, exactly your explanation just a moment ago was very helpful. But I do think there's, I don't think it's a rebuttal, but I think there has been some ideas put on paper by some very talented and very engaged residents, who I think we ought to hear from. I view them as complementary ideas as opposed to a rebuttal. So I'm interested to hear what they said. I'll save the balance of my comments and questions until after that. Madam Chair, can I have a follow-up? Yes, Mr. Chair. So, when I spoke to Mr. Beer in terms of all the things with the safety, obviously public safety, anybody that's an elected official, that's our number one thing that we want. And I've been up here, again, preaching about vision zero to save lives. These are all things that would, ever way we decide to move forward, we can evaluate. We can look again not interested in the enhanced. In my opinion, respectfully, that's just adding canopy. And as you can see, the most important thing that we're trying to do is vision zero and the hour is down. So to me, like, if I were to pick an option today, it would be the further enhanced, but we would have to do all the research that we have, right? And kind of get all this data that I don't have because we didn't get this through that public request that some of the members on the audience got on 1031. And Mr. Thompson, I disagree with you. I think we should table that discussion. And we should be allowed to marinate and process everything we presented here because staff has worked with taxpayer dollars with Alta to bring this plan to us. So I'm not interested in a rebuttal plan today. I might be interested in that in two weeks from now but today I'm very proud that staff has put this together worked really hard to get that to us and I think it's a little insulting that they would come and then propose all new plans. Well we haven't even had the opportunity. That information was this presentation or part of it was shared with that group October 31st. We got that presentation last week on Tuesday. So I would not want to hear from them today. I would like to table that discussion, but we can have that in the next part. So in terms of policy change, you're gonna have to identify, like we talked a little bit about some of the policy change. One of the things that Mr. Wigter said, which I agree 100%, which is another thing that will be painful and will also impact fire and police. So when you start putting in traffic calming, so it leads me back to the beginning of my conversation. We need to make a decision, which we have, because its mobility and transportation connectivity is one of our strategic plans. Are we going to get behind Vision Zero fully? Because we are going to have to work with fire and police, find different routes, understand evacuation zones. If you look at any city that's going through this and has gone through this, and I'm just coming off the heels of Tampa, I just did a three hour tour of Vision Zero, then you have to make those changes, and they work with all the departments. So that's why I say we need more data, we need, I understand the impacts, we want to get people off the island. By the way, I've said it before, my children are one now, sometimes lives on that side of the island. So again, I think that, and I was being facetious with the no bills or saying we do nothing now, but just wait. That was just me saying, we need to do, what we need to do is really focus on how we're going to push the Vision Zero plus all the other projects that we're working on because you have a full slate of other projects that we've been pushing whether it's the FDOT, whether stuff with the tip with the TPA with the Long-Rage Plan. So to me, proposing anything here and I guess that you wanted to know like a takeaway, like if you go back to do feasibility. Well, for me, no bill would be a no go and enhance absolutely not the arrows down. I want to do for me, I want to do any feasibility studies on anything that doesn't impact vision zero. That would be supportive of our vision zero efforts. And that's why I'm going to ask this council and the members of this council who have supported a lot of the initiatives when we decided to approve vision zero and complete streets policy that we think bold and innovative but in a holistic approach that we're continuing to have public safety so we need to make those decisions that some are going to be painful for our community. So, let's kind of take on that. Thank you, Ms. Drucker. So, I have some thoughts too, but I want to start by saying that I had spoken to the members of some of the members of the 344 group, and I invited them here today, because I think it was important while we were having this discussion that we have a full discussion and I don't think it's going to be the last full discussion. I think we're going to have several more discussions because I also agree that we don't have all the data that we need right now and I agree with your idea that with a workshop in the future with FDOT, with fire, with police, with the county, with the Department of Emergency Management, with business owners, with residents, with full traffic analysis. If we need to do that, I don't know whether we have an updated downtown parking analysis yet, so I would like to see that too. But as far as the four different possibilities that were given us today, I also, you know, looking at the arrows up and down, it's page 35, if you wanna put that back up. What I didn't see in any of the options was the opportunity to do, because there's meetings in every option that we've been given. So there is no opportunity on this presentation of a travel lane in the middle, in the middle. So one lane on each side with a travel or emergency lane and not the medians. So I'd like to see that. I don't see any bike lanes mentioned anywhere. I see in the extra Extra space I see landscaping trees benches and sidewalk, but I don't see any bike lanes. I know we have a bike lane Bypass maybe on second, but I can tell you I've ridden my bike down that street I know Mr. Wigdor's ridden just bike down that street. There's usually garbage cans in that bike lane and cars parked in that bike lane. If we're going to have this downtown and transform our downtown, I don't want it to be mediocre. I want it to be top of the line. And I think we need to take the time to do it right. The world is a different place than it was five minutes ago. When we engaged with ALTA, we didn't have two unsolicited proposals for our government campus. We didn't have in the budget, Mr. Brown, this year, we approved the budget to hire a Jeff Speck or Jeff Speck type person, right? So we're going to have that input as well. I think there needs to be more collaboration, which again is the reason why I like to hear from this group and for you to hear from them also. I think it could be helpful. So those are some of the things I'd like to see, you know, even the possibility of if we keep parking on the street, the angle parking. I like the tightening of curves, as the mayor mentioned. I'd like to see and know what our opportunities are to do quick builds, to try some of these things out. And I know you've done them in the past because you've shown us photos of what you've done in the past. And during season would be a great time to do that, but it may not be this year. So, Mr. Beer, you made a mention about roundabouts. And there was a section of the road, I think, that is a possibility from my's near to fifth to decrease the lanes and have a roundabout that might be just a two, the two lane roundabout instead of a four lane roundabout. Can you talk on that? And can you also just tell me only because this came up with a conversation that I was having what Syncro analysis is and has staff performed Syncro analysis and what the findings of that would be. Yeah absolutely great question. So first answering the roundabouts is we have had input from, for obviously we've seen the, as we put in the slides, the images about the gondolas and some of those enhanced features. And I think understanding that is both from a context classification and an aesthetics point of view. So obviously roundabouts are continuous movement intersections. I mean, there's different places I've been all over certain parts of the country are known for them. You know, they've adopted, I think it's a caramel Indiana. I want to say I'll probably get this day wrong, but I think they have the most number of roundabouts in the United States. But it's kind of those roundabouts in that traffic configuration have developed that way, whereas taking an urban environment and putting a continuous movement traffic object into that, I think it would be very challenging because I'll take for example 18th street roundabout and Camino that people are familiar with in Boca Raton large enough radius Enough space where you have people with low enough volumes that people are able to enter it We've had some feedback about role-pom yacht and country club But have have managed that and mitigated it and those are functioning in the downtown We looking at that the goal is to get pedestrians to be able to cross have that pedestrian environment. If you have a continuous movement intersection at both of those, I think that's kind of counter to what we'd be trying to achieve. And then even I took my own time because I really wanted to look at it in earnest and did a design of both a two-lane roundabout. So that's a four lane section. That doesn't fit. That's over the size. I think I submitted in the packet showing the communal real roundabout in that one. You're moving into an impact where you'd have to take out buildings and do things that is not feasible. So then in a single lane roundabout in both of those conditions, we found that through a, then this is where it blends into the Synchro Analysis. So Synchro Analysis is a simulation model of traffic flowing. So it's not only the geometry, but it provides traffic engineers the opportunity to plug in the operation side. Because I think that's a critical opponent of discussion today. There are times on Palmetto from a planning level, where the ADT works, the average traffic works, but that discounts the operation side, which is the operation of the tracks at the railroad crossing, the bridge operations, and the combined double peaks that happen in the mid-afternoon and late evening where you can get, I mean, I've drew it on myself. You get out there and sometimes you hit congested on palm. I don't, sometimes you don't. So Synchro allows staff to put those conditions in and then run theoretical traffic through those intersections and sees what the outcome is. And so we've done, staff has that model for the downtown and staff did that specifically with ALTA after we were looking at some of these more enhanced cases to evaluate the traffic impacts. And the facts, I'm a licensed professional engineer, so I'm not going to make up facts for that. It shows significant traffic impacts. There's backups on Dixie, there's backups in other parts of the corridor, there's off-system movement because when you take lanes away, people are going to move out onto the parallel roads. That is something that is going to happen based on the change of the corridor. I have no opinion whether that's good or bad. Just that is what the Synchro model show from a change in the corridor. And then from the roundabouts perspective, I think staffs take, I apologize, for the long wind in this there. But the goal of the roundabout is, again, continuous flow, and I think aesthetics. So it could be applied here, but I think you'd have to signal it anyway, because you have enough traffic movement where you'd have continuous flow, and it would essentially work like a four-way stop. Because I think you would, with a small radius roundabout, you would end up overwhelming the traffic configurations, and people would just be kind of waiting to get in. And so I don't know that this is the best application of a roundabout. Other than to make it kind of artistically, aesthetically pleasing in the center scape and make it kind of a fancy signalized intersection, which is an option as well. So you don't think any roundabout on Palmetto Park Road would be the way to go? I only from a feasibility standpoint within that limited right away. I mean, just generally speaking, back at the envelope requirement for radius is about 150 feet for generally roundabout. So when you're down thinking about a 70 foot right away corridor, I mean, it would be a very, very limited roundabout. And I think if we're looking for that visionary look of kind of, again, reimagining the trajectory of Palmetto, I would be a little bit disappointed if we ended up with something that was like a five by five in the middle that people just kind of drove over. I've seen that in certain instances where they kind of go forward to do it. And it's not really if working like a roundabout. Okay, thank you. And what about the the three lane option or the one lane in each direction and the center lane is emergency lane or turning lane or so addressing some of the issues we might have with emergency vehicles. Yeah, I evacuation and. But certainly I think that was the and that really is the intent of the dialogue. I've really appreciated it because from hearing from council, the information on where we're headed in that is really something where we took, when we would take that back, we'd have to go back to public safety if that was something for us to evaluate and really do that detailed traffic analysis. Look at the implications of where that begins and ends, what that does to traffic, and then look how we would evaluate that comprehensively. So I think it's again, it's another one of those corridors where there will be traffic implications from that and operational challenges. But in all of the options presented today, they can be implemented. And I think I would be foolish not to say that when you look at Delray and some of the other places, I went and picked up my kid from Delray last weekend and drove down Atlantic and then drove back on Palm Meadow. They're not so dissimilar to say that it's not possible. It's simply saying there would be, noting there would be substantial changes to that corridor and those impacts and challenges that we presented. Yes, thanks, Ms. Tucker. Thank you, Mr. Vier. So, going back to the roundabout, and I'll show you when I do the presentation next, in Tampa, they had put in a roundabout. They were going to put a roundabout, because you come off this bridge through the river walk and they're doing the East and the West. And then they decided to do like a quick bill project and just put a hard all stop, like a stop sign. It says all traffic stop and like they didn't do the roundabout because they felt that it calmed the area, less traffic, people were able to cross. There's like a cross right there, I think I have a picture of it. So again, it doesn't always work and I agree with you. And specifically for them, they didn't incorporate that because that's a whole walkability area of the walk that they call the East River Walk, and now they're going to do the West Side. So they don't always, we like them for certain things, but in certain areas where you want more walkability and connectivity, they just shared that example with me. And I actually walked the whole obviously tour. Madam Chair, I just wanted to go back earlier on the 344 folks that are here. I met with them as well, and no due respect, I don't want to be disrespectful to you. They have met with Alta plenty of times and provided their input. What I was specifically saying is, we have just spent met with Alta plenty of times and provided their input. What I was specifically saying is we have just spent money with Alta. We're going to go in further task. And Mr. Bearing and his team have put a lot of time and effort into these presentations. So to have someone just come up today, I haven't even looked at their presentation because I have been representing the city. And I'll see. It kind of is this heart need to me for the staff. I don't mind getting a presentation I think just today is import taste. That's just my opinion and I'm going to stick with that. Thank you Mr. Weger. Thank you. Okay. I'm trying to there's a couple things I hear. Number one, of course, we need to study. This is a serious issue and you're looking at generational change, just like the government campus. So obviously something like that cannot be rushed. I appreciate all the work reading through the reports, reading through the simulation, reading through the data. I was very, very pleased, Mr. Beard, at the level of data, the significant data of the simulation. And showing that around about, I saw that showing that the roundabout really would not be effective there. And I also appreciate very much the opportunity that really, like you said, nothing was, no option was left untouched, right? Three, lane, four, lane, five, lane, do nothing, right? So the idea of exploring all options, I thought that was very, very helpful. But what I'm hearing here is in terms of long range, long term thinking, we do need to have a kind of comprehensive downtown master plan or mobility master plan walking pedestrian master plan. I think that's gonna be part of our future and that connects all these big projects that we're doing that connects them cohesively. I think there's an opportunity for quick builds, which would be something in the midterm or quote in the short term as's an opportunity for quick builds, which be something in the midterm or quote in the short term as the mayor said, quick builds. But as we've been talking about in the past, I also think that there's, we've talked about many times, I think there's an opportunity for kind of tactical urbanism projects, pilot programs, where we try something, where we try something literally with, it could be just paint and pavers and planters, where we can try some of these things on a temporary basis as part of the next level of concept study, where it's not even a quick build. The quick build on those tight curves, even those could be done on a tactical urbanism saying, hey, let's harden up the curves, even those could be done on a tactical urbanism saying, hey, let's harden up the curves. Even those could be tried before we spend a lot of taxpayer dollars on that. So I do see opportunities for short term, let's call it midterm and longer term things, in order to get to this vision zero where we want to be. And listen, Deputy Mayor, I applaud you want to save people. I do. I appreciate. I see the passion that you know it's important. But as we've learned in the government, and I'm continuing to learn, you know, doing the right studies, doing those things, doing the engineering analysis, it takes time. And I appreciate the staff that does that. Likewise, I have not separately met with any other groups or anybody else on this project. So I am OK with people coming to present their ideas, but I, you know, again, I guess it shouldn't be a practice that there's ad hoc groups coming to present certain things, but certainly everyone in the public is entitled to present their ideas to all of us anytime. We encourage it. But I could understand there has to be some level of procedure involved too. But I'm okay with listening to it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Richter. Madam Chair, sorry, just a couple of comments. And I know the time is going to run late on me. And I, again, I beg everyone's pardon. So I'll be brief. Again, these four slides, there are many different flavors within all of them, and I think that bears Further review so it's not just no or enhanced that you could slice and dice it in many ways And I look forward to staff doing so the corners Short-term parking we've discussed these things. It will require more study I do share a little bit of the concern because I don't know, you know, somehow a well-intentioned group of business advocates and developers, reps, and others in the construction trade and residents has gotten together, but they've been meeting apparently with our consultants in a way that others don't have. They're here today, let's hear from them, but we're gonna have other people groups in the public weighing in when we bring this issue back after more thorough thought. And I just, you know, people should be treated across the board the same. So I get that concern. But we can hear them now and thank you. Thank you, Mr. Singer. Oh, so sorry. Mr. Beer. Oh, I just have one or the comment. It's an excellent point to bring up. that as an entire corridor, because it's very different elements as you move from Crawford over to Federal Highway, then Federal Highway to Meisner, then Meisner to Fifth. So even within Palm Edel Park Road, there's different elements and styles within each one of those portions of the corridor. Thank you, Mr. Beer, for pointing that out. Mr. Thompson, any last words? I was just going to say I think we should be willing to accept any ideas from anyone, particularly folks who are residents and who have been investing their time into this. So I'm happy to hear alternative ideas, complementary ideas, whatever ideas you all have. We should be able to handle all of this, marinate on it. We're going to come back. No decisions are going to be made right this minute. So I'm happy to hear everything from anyone who cares, especially those who've dedicated as much time as some of these folks have. So I'm eager to hear their ideas too. Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Okay, thank you both for your presentations, really appreciate it. And for all the information we certainly have a lot to think about. On to our next presentation. Mr. Brown, did you have some comments for me? No, not particularly. I just wanted to compliment Alta and staff for looking at these issues very thoroughly from an engineering perspective. Make sure that we're approaching things with a maximum amount of available data. Absolutely, 100%. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay, so we will move on to our second presentation today. It is Mr. Juan Casado and others presenting. And again, this was on at the request of me. So. Thank you so much for allowing us to take the time. I'm just going to start by saying I'm Andrea Levino-Rork. I love it 100 Southeast Fifth Avenue in Boko Raton. I am not here speaking for myself. I am speaking for a group of volunteer professionals that we have been working on this for three years. And I want to make it very clear to everyone. This was an initiative that this group brought forward. We would not be having this conversation today if this group did not bring this conversation forward in 19 in 2022. So thank you very much. We are tax paying residents that are very involved and very concerned, very interested in the future. And I thank Alta for their presentation. And we did not get to collaborate with them until the week before last. Actually, we were at several public workshops, and we talked, but we never ever had a one-on-one collaboration, which I didn't get to go to, but several of the professionals volunteers that I'm working with did. So thank you for giving us this time, and we're going to go forward with the presentation and hope that you support the effort that we're making. It's all food for thought. It's not rebuttal. It's collaboration. So I hope that you'll understand that. We are a volunteer citizen collective on a mission to accelerate action in, let me just make sure I have this straight. Yeah. So we're a volunteer citizen collective on a mission to accelerate action in the 344 acres of downtown Boca Raton and beyond. To cultivate walkability, connectivity, and place making. Ultimately designing a poetic human experience. Our vision is for urban visibility that embodies the spirit and the true essence of Boker-Ratone. And I'm not going to name everybody, but I think you probably recognize most of these people. They have served on boards, advisory boards, planning and zoning, CAB. And this is only half of the group. It's a tough time for people. Mostly everyone has a working professional in the group. So with that, it's the top one. We cannot go forward. And I thank you for bringing up the speeding and the danger that we're feeling on Palmetto Park Art. It's real. And we have been spinning wheels since 1980, the mid-80s on this. This came forward 37 years ago. It came back again 17 years ago, which I'm going to talk about in some detail. 14 years ago, and again three years ago in 2022, when this group brought this initiative forward. Again, we would not be discussing it had not that not happened several years ago. Downtown has been analyzed on numerous occasions with the same result over and over again, experts and residents alike want a pedestrian experience. They want to feel safe. So in 1983, the first Meister Master Plan was created, a referendum was held, the citizens supported it overwhelmingly, and it was voted on to have the Downtown Master Plan 4035 was created. That is now our Downtown Bible. Moving on from that, in 1990, we continued to work on this Downtown situation. So the visions 90 was created, which ultimately turned into the the downtown advisory committee. And they did, they worked on creating infrastructure improvements in capital improvements and beautification projects. And there were significant studies, at least three during that period from 90 all through the downtown advisory, well, Palmetto Park Road was looked at. Now, we've come up with beautiful, beautiful pockets in our downtown. We appreciate it. We love it. We go to all of them, Meister Park, Sam Born, the Art Museum, the Potential Center for Innovation, Plaza Rial, Royal Palm Place, the Historic Society. We have maintained, and these are all beautiful attributes to our downtown. In 2007, so we're out of the 1900s and 2007, the city, if I'm not incorrect in saying this, I believe budgeted $1 million for this study. In 2007, and they hired Urban Design Associates along with Glattin Jackson. And in 2007, the city rightfully believed that downtown had lost its way with respect to achieving the vision in 1982. So over a very intense five-month period, the consultants met with a diverse group of participants. They're probably here, they're even people here that remember it. Residents who lived here for a long time, new residents, and they did smaller focus groups with developers, landowners, realtors, arts, art and culture institutions, heritage advocates, city staff, providers of emergency services, and the Federation of Homeowners, which represented hundreds of people. The red, we're going to talk about the green dots, the red dots, and the blue dots. We all know the dots. I'm not going to take a lot of time to go through this. Myster Park is a strong, Royal Palm is strong. Sandborne is strong. A little bit of the beach. You see Silver Palm. There's very few green spots on Palmetto Park Road. This has been a story over and over and over again. Red dots, where are the weaknesses, palmetto park road, and again the connectivity, that is what we've called the spine over the years, connectivity between Moral Palm and Palmetto park road. They said widespread support for making downtown more pedestrian friendly. This is 2007. I'm not going to do the math of how many years after 1980. So widespread support for downtown pedestrian friendly I'm not going to do the math of how many years after 1980. So widespread support for downtown pedestrian friendly and creating an identity which was what we continued to call place making. And they looked at what their priorities were. And I was just skipped through that because we have it right here. The weaknesses are not pedestrian friendly. Downtown Lex connectivity, Palmetto Park Road was identified, and the vision was to improve Palmetto Park Road East and make it more pedestrian friendly and give it an identity. There's our place making once again. So I'm going to read this because this is what creates the vision and with all of the work that you all have to do and Mr. Beer and it's no small feat and we understand that. We're working with a lot of professionals right here. But we have to read and remind ourselves of what the original vision was and this is in your downtown master plan right now. You can open the book up and read this. What is a pedestrian network? It's an essential element. It's successful to downtowns for an interconnected network of streets and open space that provides comfortable pedestrian connections. Boca Raton has a successful pedestrian pockets, but it fails to provide a pedestrian network that links its various parts. A particular vivid example can be seen on Palmetto Park Road. This is 17 years ago, where despite efforts to create a pedestrian friendly environment, past programs have been unsuccessful in doing so. The emphasis given to through traffic combined with road and sidewalk design that encourages vehicles to travel at a high speed has made it impossible to provide this vital attribute. So in 2007 they proposed a redesign which was tested. This is all in your downtown master plan which was tested for Palmeiro Park Road and in ordinance 4.35 it indicates the beast type B streets and the type C streets C is from Dixie to Meisner and from Meisner to the bridge is a C street. So let's talk about the C street. And again, these diagrams are right out of your downtown master plan. What is a type C street is an access street. Type C streets are either three lane streets or two lane with a median. They provide the hicular access to homes and businesses and have the highest level, highest level of activity and conflicts as such. They should be designed to encourage lower speed traffic and serve pedestrian scale uses along them. These are two diagrams out of the master plan. The one on the left is a design with one lung going east, one lung going west and a median. The one on the right which we personally favor is with a emergence. It's three lanes and east lane, a west lane and an emergency lane. I can break down, I can break it down quickly for and it doesn't mean it has to be this just just happened to be a diagram in the master plan. But you have the 14 feet of pedestrian. You have the buffer. And there's parking maintained here, eight feet of parking. And then 10, 11, and 10 feet of road, eight feet of parking, six feet of buffer, and sidewalk, et cetera. So the recommendation, whoops, study skip something here. No, I'm sorry, let me just go back on page. I would read from up there, but my essay is not good. So the effects of creating a three-lane section of Palmetto Park Road between Meisner Boulevard and Northeast Fifth Avenue do not appear to be overly burdensome. This is out of the 2007 report. And everything we say is an all due respect to ALTA and to the staff. We want you to understand that. We are here to collaborate and we've been working on this three years. So back to the three lane section. Nibboka Riton Downtown DRA Report indicates 865 cars per hour and peak direction was expected by 2020. It's important to note that while in 2007 the peak traffic hour was anticipated to be 865 cars, today, four years later, it's actually 654, 211 cars less. The West Peak was anticipated to be 729. It is 729, 136 vehicles less than was anticipated. According to the city engineering staff analysis, the intersections on either end of the corridor, Palmetto Park Road at Meister Boulevard and at 5th would operate no worse than a vehicle level D service under the proposed configurations. Even if this level of capacity were not available, reduce peak our vehicle levels of service in downtown area are common and can even be desirable when trying to create a balanced environment. It should, as our traffic specialist said, it should hurt a little bit to drive through a balanced environment. It should, as our traffic specialist said, it should hurt a little bit to drive through a downtown area. As indicated in the plan, the middle lane should have a different paving surface and would also be used for emergency vehicles, or when there is a vehicle stopped in a moving lane, it can also be a second stacking lane for cars waiting when the bridge is closed. We are throwing ideas out to you. We are collaborating with you and we are sharing what was already indicated in your downtown master plan from the 2007 study. So the recommendation was the public realm can be developed in one or two ways. The preferred solution is to reconfigure Palmetto Park Road as a three-lane road with parking on both sides. We commend, we personally commend the three-lane option in part because it provides the most flexibility for emergency vehicles in the event of block lanes. Again, out of your downtown master plan and I can't tell you how many times when I sat up there like you, I went back to the downtown master plan and I can't tell you how many times when I sat up there like you I went back to the downtown master plan and I read this paragraph over and over because I couldn't put it together with the reality of what we were living and the vision in our your downtown master plan says this area has the potential to become the Shumps, Elisay, a Boker aton with wide-landscape, garden-like pedestrian walks along the street that are lined with residential, restaurant, hotels, and business uses. It's important to point out right turn lanes because we've put meetings in, we've taken meetings out, we've put lanes in, we've taken lanes out. This was what came out of the analysis in 2007, and it's important to point it out. The presence of dedicated right turn lanes is anti-urban, anti-pidestrian, with longer crosswalks and high speed right turns, and element that typically is not based on capacity needs. But on preserving vehicle speed and moving lanes, since a traffic signal timing would be set to a speed of 25 to 30 miles per hour, speed preservation should no longer be the goal. And I'm going to read one more thing out of our downtown master plan because once again, it creates the vision of what we're looking for for place making and walkability. We can talk about the studies, we can talk about the road, we can talk about utilities that all has to be addressed and we respect that and we would love to collaborate with that. But you have to keep the vision in mind of what we're trying to accomplish. The great cities of the world offer lasting continuity and unexpected joy. It is in the mix of buildings, the unity of landscape, the tight streets, the broad plazas, that we derive the notions of beauty of a civilized city. Many of the tests of city's civility are rather simple ones. Can you walk on the sidewalk? Can you stop for a drink? Is there shade? Is there sun? Can you cross the street? And may I add safely? And is there even a reason to cross the street? So, I want to go to the next slide. Is there a reason to cross the street? So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. So, I want to go to the next slide. When we first looked at this in 2022, May 2022 is when I set out there and help make the presentation for this group. We looked at all of Palmetto Park Road. We care about the beach segment, we care about downtown, we care about with the West segment. But we knew we could only take a smaller bite of the elephant, we couldn't look at the whole thing. But I do want to take the opportunity and particularly while you're focused on the government center, which we're very excited to hear about, there must be connectivity from downtown to the government center and the TOD. If that doesn't happen, the whole thing will be another build in a silo. And needless to say, we'll actually hurt Myster Park and Royal Palm as well as Fart and Palmetto Park Road as far as business goes. So what happened was this was a collaborative exercise. We had the opportunity, I think it was a week before last I was out of town, I didn't participate. But several of my colleagues here had the opportunity to sit down with staff in Alta for the first time and have a one-on-one, one-on-four, five-on-five collaboration. And what we learned, which came up in the study that we weren't aware of, is that Dixie Empomello is a major pinch point. So what we did in the spirit of collaboration, we went back to the drawing board because we're going to show you an idea that we think is exciting in a further plan. It's just more developed and it's an idea to consider. So we'll unpack to the drawing board and what we did is we looked at the segment of downtown, the pedestrian, high pedestrian, high business part of this Main Street Boca Raton. And we drew it in from Myisner-Bull of Art to Fifth Avenue and coincidentally or not, maybe just smartly, that is exactly what was indicated in the 2007 downtown master plan was to look at Meisner Park, look at the Palmetto Park Road from Meisner Park to the bridge to Fifth Avenue. So we have to talk about the elephant in the room because we cannot have this conversation without talking about evacuation, emergency response, and safety versus perceived delays. So we did our homework. We wanted to come to you with some statistics and what we did was we found out there are 6,854 residential units on the barrier island and out of those over 6,000 units half of them are occupied during hurricane season. We got that example from one of the condos, the barris fird which is right on a 1a I think right near Palmetto Park Road. They have 53 units, they reported the 23 units are occupied during hurricane season which is 43% of the building occupied during hurricane season. I, anecdotally, will tell you I live by the water and I can tell you in hurricane season, the building is, is pretty empty. So what we did is we looked at the, um, the evacuation routes and we have Spanish Rebellivard, we have Palmetto Park Road, and we have Camino Rial. So people are going to take the path of least resistance. If you live north, you'll probably take Spanish River. If you live mid, you'll probably take Palmetto, and if you live south, you'll probably take Camino Rial. So that breaks down the numbers. If the total is 6.8.54 and half are here during her case, the number of cases that we have to take. So that breaks down the numbers. If the total is six six eight five four and half are here during hurricane season that's over three thousand. Now if you break it down to a third we're looking at one thousand one hundred and forty two units. Evacuating our exiting through road in the case of an event. And it says, where am I here, Palmetto Park Road, even with one lane heading west, can handle evacuation, even though evacuation does not occur at the same time. So I catch my breath. I'm trying to do this as fast as I can, because I know you didn't appreciate it as taking a huge amount of time. But this is very important to all of us, so thank you again. Evacuation was analyzed. This is again back in the 2007 study. This street is an important emergency evacuation route for island residents. A population of the size expected to be on the island could easily be evacuated over a two to four hour period in two outbound lanes in the case of weather or other type of emergency and depending on traffic control and street operation plans. A three-lane section would be it would allow this two lane would allow two lane outbound type of operation to occur easily. There is, we have to remember, for emergency sake, there is a fire station on the barrier island for immediate attention to barrier island residents, our EMS trucks are well equipped, and with an exclusive emergency lane, which we stand behind that plan, emergency response will actually be expedited. The biggest elephant in the room and it came up during all this presentation are the statistics. 8,8,8,868 crashes, 466 injuries and 6 deaths. If you do the math, that is over one crash a day, and I'll skip the injuries for now, I didn't do that math, but that's one death a year. So some people who are concerned about time and wanting to speed through a downtown, some people didn't have the opportunity to get home. I think that needs to be considered. And I heard numbers of nine minutes or something. We've done some studies. It's under, we have under minute times. We have seconds. So, lives are more important than speeding to where you may be going. Emergency response time is improved with an exclusive emergency lane, removing two signals and replacing same with two roundabouts will actually reduce vehicle time travel. Obviously this is going to be a conversation that you will have. With that, I am done with my part of the conversation. I am going to turn it over to Juan Casado, who worked with several of our planners here to tease you for a concept. What I want to say is Juan's presentation is not only beautiful, I mean, this is, I mean, he focused on a fully realized plan. Again, in due respect to all, to we realize you were doing a major evaluation and data collection, but this is focused on a plan of these miserable of art to Fifth Avenue, and not only is it beautiful but it's memorable and it's a nod to history and it improves response time. Parking is maintained and it's faster without signals. So I want to say one more time which I said in the study in the presentation, it should hurt a little bit to drive through downtown Boga. We quickly, George and I went to how you're doing. It just opened on Palmetto Park Road. It was delicious, but we were sitting outside and I have to tell you, the screeching and the speeding and the noise and the level of what cars are doing on Palmetto Park Road and the heart of downtown Boca is disconcerting. Thank you so much for your time. Staff, Council, Alta, and at this point, I'm gonna turn it over to one case. Thank you, Senator. Thank you, Bernie. Gone over by a minute and a half. So, Mr. Kasey, the most efficient way you can go through this would be appreciated. One case, though. Because you're way you can go through this would be appreciated. OK, I said, I'm like it's short. And actually, obviously, thanks to ALTA, we have information that we didn't have before. And with that information, we actually went ahead and changed some of the things that we had proposed initially. Obviously, the design of a city, like you said, is not one piece. It's a bunch of cohesive pieces that like you said, is not one piece. It's a bunch of cohesive pieces that actually come together to actually form our city. And we as a group have been looking at this for over a couple of years now. And we walked the city, we actually have done sketches over every space that we think that is important. And we actually actually offer our services, our expertise, our knowledge to whoever is working and whatever project in the city to use us as a resource. We're not here to compete with anyone. We're not looking for the work. We're actually looking to improve our city and to make it actually a better, more poetic, more artistic, more iconic city. And so this drawing, this sketch actually came out of one of the walks. And this actually just to speak very shortly about it, the white piece that you see kind of in the middle of the drawing is the high line sort of speak connector between the west where the train station is to the east landing on Sanborn Square. The idea was actually to create an iconic bridge that actually will connect the West and the East. And so that's basically the sketch that reflects that condition. As we move into other studies, we actually have looked at the government centers as well because we'd recognize that not only the Palmetto Park and the bridges are elements. Everything in the city is important for us. And we want to have an iconic city, a city that is a museum city for the future of our city. The fact of the matter is that all this data that is collected actually will be obsolete in a couple of years. It's obsolete now. It as we move forward as technology evolves, all of this technology, all of this data that we're collecting becomes obsolete very quickly. Whatever, however, what doesn't become obsolete is the art. Is the poetic artistic part of the city. And we see that in many cities of the world, Paris, London, Rome, you name it. All the elements that are in that city that became timeless and are part of the city still are those pieces that are part of the art component of the city. So we want to make sure that whatever intervention we do in the city has that level of artistic intervention. So when we looked at the city at Palo Part Road, initially, I'm going to go very quickly. This is a sketch of some of what you have seen. We actually took inspiration on the beginnings at the city at Palo Part Road initially, I'm going to go very quickly. This is a sketch of some of you have seen. We actually took inspiration on the beginnings of the city, the Venice of the Atlantic. Meister, Meister, Meister, Meister wanted to create a Venice-like city here. And so we thought, well, why not create an iconic street that actually borrows from that history and creates an element that becomes a landmark. As we looked into it, excuse me, as we looked into it, and we learned that some of the traffic studies didn't support the proposal, we went ahead and did some additional studies. But this is just to show you, when we're working on these things, we're actually developing the idea. We're thinking of the three-dimensional aspects of the street. We're seeing what is it that we're looking for? What kind of space are we looking for? What's the scale? And so after all that, we arrived at the last idea that we have, which is based on the last input that we got in terms of the street composition. Okay, and I'm gonna give you one more minute to finish up. Yes, I'm almost done. This is actually, I think, one of the last images. Okay. This actually is, meandering street actually has the three lanes, one is bound, one is bound and the emergency vehicle lane in the center of the road. It actually provides ample pedestrian areas on both sides of the shoulders of the road. It actually provides ample pedestrian areas on both sides of the shoulders of the street. The lines that you see vertical crossing it actually are the crossing points for pedestrians. And actually, they will actually, and around about, we talked about a redding, so there could be, it could be out, it's not based on that component, but we had it in there because we, at some point, we discussed them, the three-lane section. And then again, it's inspired on the same idea of the Gondola, the Venice of the Atlantic of Meister, but in this case, the Gondola's actually happened on either side of the street, kind of creating this iconic element, elevated crosswalks, parallel parking spaces, which is, we're not gonna lose any parking from this design to what is currently existing. And then the treatment of the roads could actually be similar to what Mark had mentioned at some point, which is papers. And this is some quick sketches of what the sidewalks could look like. This is actually one of those gondolas on the side, which actually becomes ben with with a trellis on top and There's a light of canopies crossing the street so at each pedestrian crossing there is plenty of light for safety reasons Okay, and this is actually one section through that street showing that That condition, okay without I'm finished that when as far as I'm concerned Thank you Thank you very much for the presentation. I think it it just like we said add some more ideas. I appreciate the history that that you've brought to this and I'd like to hear from everyone so I appreciate you being here. Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Cousetto? Okay. All right. thank you very much. So moving on, we have no quasi-judicial or related- I do have a question. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't say I'm sorry. I think Mr. Wigdor brought up, but I think the mayor already excused himself because I don't see him. Sorry, Mr. Couseton. I'm sorry. That we're to need a process for how these ad hoc presentations come because we have, and I appreciate you guys coming and doing the presentation. I thought the timing could have been later, but it's great. We listened to it and we're here. They're going to be working on the feasibility and we want all public input, but everyone should have the same input. So Mr. Wager said earlier earlier there has to be a procedure. I think the mayor said we don't want to just add hawk because of not what I don't want to happen is just I'm sure that the barrier island folks have a lot of input as well. They're not I don't see that I don't see a lot of them here today. So again we need to make it a consistent fair process for the entire city because we have we have a staff that's very equipped and as we're working on all this. And we also have also which we're spending a ton of taxpayer dollars and we're going to go ahead and add more task. So we have to come with a way to and these are our consultants. So I appreciate all the feedback. I appreciate all the enthusiastic. This is what I live in brief pretty much as I've said on this day is but there has to be a way to do it with parity for all in the city, because we're treating it different. There's no other, when we do public input, when we did our Vision Zero Action Plan recently, we just put it out, people showed up, we're gonna have a few more coming up, and that's how you get public input. As I appreciate the 12 individuals that are here. They're obviously a former deputy mayor. Obviously there's other residents that are here, but it's a lot of our development community as well. I wanna hear from everyone just not one particular group pushing policy or changes to our city. So I'll leave you with that. Thank you. Thank you very much. Anyone else, Mr. Wigtter? No, thank you. Listen, I love hearing ideas. Like I said, in terms of the process, we can work on that. You know, maybe there was a little bit of a break for everybody during COVID. And I think what we are experiencing in many ways is still systemic of COVID is that we are restarting a lot of processes that may have started before and a lot of things just dropped out before and I think it takes time to move a ship this big. Frankly, there was a time in the past, former Deputy Mayor talked about it where we have a downtown advisory committee and that fell off. Maybe it's time we consider starting it again. We have many, and now with the new government campus master plan, we have many very large, as been said, generational projects that are happening downtown. Maybe an advisory committee or a task force might be helpful. So it's something to consider, because again, if the only avenue and certainly everyone in the public knows you can email us, you can call us, you can text us, smoke signals, whatever you want to do. We're always available. This is not the only opportunity to talk to us at all. Please, we get emails all the time happy to I'm happy to walk the neighborhood with anybody who wants to walk people know it If you see a problem Take a picture send it us put us on C click fix But with point is there's opportunities to get this engagement and doing a lot of that here in just very general Conversations like I said, maybe we just need to have a public forum talking just about Palmetto, you know, another one. So we can do a task for. So there's other opportunities for this and I hope we can explore some of them because it seems like there's a lot happening downtown and it would be very, very challenging to do it all right here. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Wigter. Mr. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Wigdor. Mr. Thompson? And certainly, just using this today as an example, I agree we should have some kind of a process, but this hasn't been the only group that's come before us. We've had Florida share the road coalition. We've had several people, Mr. Les Wilson, is sitting in the audience. He's come and given us presentations. And that came from him reaching out to one or many of us and asking to be able to do that. So again, certainly there was 12 people here today who could have each taken three minutes each during public comment to do the same presentation. And that would have even been 36 minutes and not the 24 minutes that it ended up being. So, but I going forward, if we want to talk about and been 36 minutes and not the 24 minutes that it ended up being. But I going forward, if we want to talk about having a process to do something like this in a workshop, I'm amenable to that and I'm open to the conversation. So that being said, now moving on, we have no business to consider under quasi-judicial and related public hearings. So now we will open public requests and anyone wishing to speak on Matters concerning the CRA in the downtown. Please come up. You will have three minutes to speak and please state your name and address for the record I have one card, Mr. David K. Thank you for being patient, Mr. K Thank you. I'm David K 27 Israel Palm Road, Bokeh. I want to just make a few points hopefully quickly. I want to emphasize one thing that former Council member O'Rourke said. said, when we are measuring the traffic delay of minutes or seconds against injury and life, we don't just want to say, well, there's 2,000 folks who want to speed through downtown Volca, and there's only 400 people who want to cross the street, I think it's necessary of a hierarchy of values that says people's health, safety and life has to count a little more than traffic delays. The next thing I want to say is that there is a very, very dangerous pedestrian intersection that was not discussed. And I want to make sure the consultants and staff know about it. Mr. K, can you speak into the microphone to show you all the area? Thank you. Quite a few times, just within the last, let's call it, four to six weeks. I have almost been struck by fast-moving vehicles crossing Palmetto Park Road at Fifth Avenue, particularly on the east side of Fifth Avenue. The reason is, despite the walk sign, despite the fact that the crosswalk is set away from the corner, which means drivers should be facing the crosswalk, they speed around the corner at what feels like 45 or 50 miles an hour. Just two weeks ago ago a large truck just reached a halt inches from me. It isn't just the risk of injury, but it's also the discomfort and fear that creates. So that intersection must be addressed. The next thing I want to talk about very quickly is what can be done right away at little cost. The crosswalks can be brightly painted. I'm told that's expensive because we'd have to replace the payvers and we'd have to get bright colored payvers. And my response is pull out the pavers which are almost invisible, put back asphalt and paint it brightly. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. K. Would anyone else like to speak? Mr. Anjane? I think congratulations are in order too. Thank you. So if I can ask the chair for a little bit of leeway, I wanted to be here for the workshop. I was here, but I missed the public comment. So being that we switched this in the last minute. OK, give you four minutes? No, no, no, no, I don't need more time, but just that if I could have a little leeway in terms of not relating directly to the CRA. Okay. So, first I want to start off with the Dan Berg, Jonathan, on June 65, I have a one congress avenue. The Dan Berg concern next door. From what I understand, I spoke with the Assistant City Manager, a City Attorney, still waiting on a date. It's mind-blowing that we can't seem to get to any sort of resolution for a development that was promised to the city eight years ago. We're two almost two full years from a final order in code compliance and this does impact the downtown as well as the full city as a whole because code compliance should bring quick enforcement and quick code enforcement should bring quick compliance. And obviously that is not happening next door. I'm hearing that their special magistrate hearing won't be until next year early that in January or so still they can't get their attorneys apparently to from what I understand to give a date that they could be made available. The clock just keeps ticking. This doesn't happen for anybody else and it's very concerning. The other thing I would like to speak about is the trial-rail development. I've spoken to you, council member, NACLIS, you, Mr. Wigter. I've asked to speak to every council member. Prior to the last hearing, which gave the first approval before transmittal, I just had a baby, so I wasn't here at that last meeting, not me, but the wife. And so, but very disappointed to not have heard back from a few councilmembers. I know that in that I did hear and listen to that hearing, that comments that you've taken, you haven't heard from me. Councilmember Drucker in specific. I wrote an email, I called. The mayor, I've called, I've spoken to his assistant. I keep hearing, reach out to us. And you've already had one approval on this. And I want to speak to you all before you have your final approval to consider everybody's property rights. Everybody's development rights and density because the reality of our trial rail station is unlike many many other large cities that we talk about TODs where everybody who's going to be getting on our trial rail is leaving this city. It is true. There's no other stop in the city of Boca Raton. And that's not the case in Miami. That's not the case in many other municipalities. And the other thing that I'd like to consider is this is something that's made for just one property. It's giving them over 50% 100% more density than anybody else. And the reality is 50% of these people living there in this high income, there may be some affordable housing. A photo is not too affordable in Boca Raton under the parameters of the average median income. But 50% of these people aren't going to be riding the trial rail every day, or any day. And so with that, I'm just not sure why we're giving such a bonus. But more importantly, I'm asking that this city maybe considers the 20 units in acre that all the rest of the properties, especially in this district, are afforded right now. I'm not against them getting 42, but why shouldn't people on bus stops, this just TOD as well? Get a higher density count because nobody can develop a 20 units an acre in the city of Boca Raton, afford these types. They're all passing density, giving up developmental density rights. I know you all understand, but the public may not. Please wrap it up, Mr. Anjane. Thank you. Thank you. And for the record I allowed that because we did switch the CRA and workshop meetings today and I'm not sure everyone in the public was notified of that. So, okay. Any other public requests? Madam Chair, can I address Mr. Anjane? Yes, you may. So Mr. Anjane, well, you have heard and I did say that in the last meeting you were not here, that I was going to be away at a conference and we've had a conversation you and I in this chamber. And I responded to you by saying that more density should be allowed in the transit-oriented community area. That is where density goes. That is the model that we've been following as a city. And I respectfully disagree with you that people are not gonna take the trial or just taking it to come in and out. I take the trial to go to many places, just not to go out. I come in, I come out. I have to come right back to that station. Also, the people that are gonna live in that particular development, their part of their rental package includes a mobility incentive. So we can have many conversations. You want to hear what you want to hear, but I'm telling you the way that the reason behind the decision to allow it in those transit-oriented development. So for what it's worth, it belongs there. Mr. Onion, it belongs there. That we've had this conversation. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Drucker. Are there any other public requests would anyone else like to come to the day us to speak? Okay, seeing none, I'm going to close public requests and we'll move on to resolutions and regular public hearings. Miss Siddons, could you please read the title of the resolution? Resolution number 20408 CRA. A resolution of the Booker Aton Community Redevelopment Agency, mending the rules of the Booker Aton Community Redevelopment Agency for individual development application IDA procedures for clarity and to delegate approval authority for IDA building permit review to staff for process efficiency consistent with ordinance number 5706 providing for severability providing for a peeler providing an effective date. Thank you, Missons. Mr. Brown, who will introduce the step? who will introduce the presentation? Actually, I'll give a brief summary and if we have any questions for a missing, so we can get to those. As mentioned in the title, the resolution amends the powers and duties of the CAB for consistency with ordinance 5706, which he adopted back on October 22nd. We had an extensive presentation about those. This conforms the CRA's powers and duties under the DDRI development order for consistency with that streamlining ordinance, delegates to staff the current CABA authority to review building permits for consistency with IDAs. And CABA will no longer review building permit plans provided assuming they were determined by staff to be consistent with the IDA and it will restate the CAV's authority and review and make a recommendations on certain D&D IDA applications. That's basically what this resolution does, adopts the previous ordinance requirements into the downtown DDRI and Miss Cedars here if there are any questions Thank you mr. Brown. Does anyone have any questions from mr. Brown or Miss Cedars? No, okay, so no questions now I'll open the public hearing and if any member of the public would like to speak You can come up to the day. I said now for three minutes to speak and anyone like to speak Okay, seeing none I going to close the public hearing and I'm going to ask for motion in a second to approve resolution number 2024-08-CRA. So moved. Second. Thank you. Mr. Drucker and Mr. Wigter. Are there, is there any other discussion? Anybody like to talk about this? No okay seeing none? Missedans could you please call the roll. Waiter? NACLIS? Yes. Mr. Singer is absent. Director? Yes. Thompson. Yes. Motion passes four votes to zero. Thank you Missedans. We have no other business to consider, so we're moving on to the Director's report. Mr. Brown. Thank you, Chair Ruby Riley. Downtown Management is gonna give a brief update on Downtown projects and current status. Thank you, welcome, Mr. Riley. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Brown for the record Ruby Riley downtown manager. Just have a few updates for you. I know it seems so long ago but Hurricane Milton was around last month and so all the fun things we put out there, tables, chairs, and umbrellas had to be removed and stored until we got through the bad weather. So we had to do that in Meisner Park as well as Sanborn Square. And we also coordinated with our Recreation Services Department and our vendor that removed banners along Federal Highway. There were 86 of them, and luckily we were able to get them reinstalled before they started their holiday light decorations. So in Meister Park, hopefully you have noticed. We have new Paverd game board for the chess and checkers games. And also we have the Paverd area around the game board for the chess and checkers games. And also we have the favorite area around the game board, so we won't be worrying about replacing dead grass when people are enjoying the game board. As well as the oversized Adirondack chair, it's now in a nice sturdy platform. And we don't have to worry about dead grass and mud. Also in Meisner Park we did receive a new set of cafe tables and chairs that are out in the POA area now and today most of you were able to see it. We had a concrete footer poured and an art piece that was installed in the south end of Meisner Park. And we had the unveiling this morning. We also are finalizing the maintenance items with Brookfield. And our goal is to have the agenda items before you on December 9th and before council on December 10th. And in Sanborn Square, thanks to recreation services, the tree trimming has been completed in preparation of the holiday season and all the festive lighting that will be coming. Throughout downtown, we continue with pavir repairs. We completed zones 4 and 5 and we are remaining zones 6 and 7. Also throughout downtown we are continuing to explore options for the digital kiosks and this is the one from Tampa. I don't know if you recognize that or not. We are looking at that one and we are also reviewing with our legal department any issues that may come along with that typical type of signage that advertising is usually involved with. So we are continuing to explore those options. We have not forgotten about it. It is still on the burner here and we are looking into it. And that concludes my update unless you have any questions for me. Thank you, Mr. Riley. Any questions? Okay, thank you. Thank you. Mr. Brown, still your report? Thank you, Chair Nockles. Stephen Timberlake, the Financial Services Department, is going to provide an update on parking for businesses in downtown that have no on-site parking. We're particularly speaking about first Avenue. Good afternoon Chair. Stephen Timberlake, Special Project Manager for the Finance Division. As we said, we're going to do our public parking and downtown update for November, looking mainly at Northeast First Avenue. So on this particular street, there are 26 spaces. We had about 21,000 transactions on this street alone, totally in about $70,000 in revenue, average time purchases an hour and a half, and a lot of transactions at 30 and 15 minutes throughout everywhere. Totally about 21,000 for there. This is sort of an overview of how this how the street looks with 26 spaces, 10 parking signs, 5 parking meters, and park mobile active for every single space. So what we want to talk about today is a pilot program for a 29 minute free parking zone on Northeast 1st Avenue. This pilot is prompted by feedback from a particular business owner who claims that parking meters are negatively impacting their business. Our objective here is to ensure our parking program supports the downtown businesses by providing an accessible parking for customers, maintaining ease of access and avoiding excessive costs. As part of the goal, we'll test a short-term program here with a no cost that facilitates quick businesses for local or quick trips for local businesses. So there are some risks associated with the program. We would obviously lose the $2,100 worth of transactions that are 30 minutes or less and there is the potential for abuse by drivers re-intering 29 minutes over and over again at the meter so that could impact turnover. Also, anytime you change one particular street and not the whole area, it could drive additional space occupation in that one area. So a 29 minute free parking option added to the downtown spaces on Northeast First Street, patrons would select the free rate at any meter. They could use a parkmo app as well, but they would still pay a 30 cent transaction fee. Patrons could choose the regular rates up to four hours or the preset time limit for free. We would limit the availability of this option during normal business hours. So how does it look? So during the, if you walk up to the meter, that's the initial screen. You enter your space number. And then once you get there, once you have your space number in, you purchase a ticket. And then you select whether you want the normal per hour rate or the 29 minute free parking. And once you select the free parking, it will give you what your amount do is, and then it will print out a ticket for you that you do not need to return to your car because we have it automatically based on your space number. So our next steps will be launching this trial, if approved. We'll do a three month trial to get us through the end of this year and into next year. And then we'll monitor the impact tracking key metrics such as spot utilization, the activity and the businesses, what we see in revenue collection and then enforcement as well. After the trial, we'll collect feedback from a broader range of businesses up and down the street to evaluate the effectiveness and determine next steps and bring those back to you. So I would be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Mr. Timberlake. And thank you for coming back. I just wanted to let everyone know and you've probably all spoken to this business owner. There's a business owner on First Avenue who has they've had their business there for decades and they have no other parking other than the Seon Street parking. And so the parking meters were put in obviously after this business had been in, had been in business for a very long time and they're affecting his business or so he claims right now. So I know we had this discussion before. Mr. Tim Blake is going to a conference in December, I believe, where he's going to be coming back to us with some other options as far as the parking meters and timing and everything. But I do appreciate coming back with this option today. So if anyone has questions, I think Mr. Thompson raised the same first. And Mr. Wigtter. Go ahead. Excellent work, Mr. Tim Blake. Thank you. I remember you mentioning the concept that there could be abuse if people put in the 29 minutes repeatedly Is there not a mechanism to get the one free 29 minute segment and then no more? There is not a mechanism because we don't we don't know that you're a new person when you walk up to the meter You walk up to the meter you enter spot 1001 and then 29 minutes later you come back and enter spot 1001. I don't know that it's the same person much less the same car. But if you miss it by 15 minutes and you end up with a $35 ticket it's not going to make much sense for you to continue to do that. You're better off just paying the $4 for two hours in that scenario. Let me if with your permission, Madam Chair, what about people who use the Park Mobile app? A lot of times people will go, they'll sit down to eat and they'll be like, oh no, my meter's about to run out, let me add more time. Can we at least eliminate the possibility of people renewing it on their Park Mobile app? Because in that case, you do know it's the same car. We can certainly investigate that. I don't know for sure whether that's availability or not. But again, they're going to pay 30 cents for every transaction on the park mobile app too. So it's not free for them, so to speak. Never less still worth it, my guess is that. We can investigate that. Great. Thank you. Yes. Thanks very much for looking into this. In terms of Mr. Thompson, I think you're already correct. I think, because I use the park mobile app often when I'm downtown and I can't get to a garage, I think if you put the max amount of time, the four hours, I think you're not allowed to extend that time. So perhaps there's a software opportunity where you could reduce it for that. The only concern of course is that to still have to put in your credit card for free parking. No, you don't. You don't have to. You literally select free parking and hit accept and it prints your information. Oh, I thought there was something on the presentation about a 30 cent transaction. If you're in park mobile where you have already entered your credit card information, because that's what park mobile runs off of. It's a 30 cent transaction fee. If you walk up to the meter, you would simply follow the steps I associated. There's no credit cards, there's no payments. It is truly free parking for 29 minutes. So only the park mobile, so if you use the last, don't use, if you want free parking, don't use the app. Go directly to the meter. That's correct. Go directly to the greater. Okay, public notice. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rector. Mr. Rucker. Okay, okay, so we're looking for some direction. I'm whether to move ahead with this pilot. So I do I have to make them, does there need to be a motion? Is this right? Or just a voice? Godspeed. Is there a consent for the counting heads? I see the consequences. I see the consequences. I see the consequences. We will get that live, hopefully, going into this week and then sign it probably in the next two weeks. So everyone can see that we're doing it. Thank you, Mr. Timberlake. I appreciate it. Thank you for your patience as well. Madam Chair, just a point on that though. Perhaps the most often heard complaint I hear about downtown is I just want a cup of coffee. Like I just want, you know, I just need to get something for, you know, so I appreciate the pilot program. I really do. The idea is I'm sure for Stavine was not the only one where they're feeling it. So hopefully we can move to other areas if this pilot program is successful. Thank you. Appreciate it. It's a step. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Brown. Nothing else, this afternoon. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. Mr. Kailer, any report? See you later. No, no thank you. Okay, now onto my commissioners reports, vice her Thompson any report? No report. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Rucker. Yes. I'm going to go ahead and put up the NLC so we can do that today. And I'll go through it quickly. Okay. They could queue it for me. So as I said, I went to the National League of Cities representing the city of Bocahre, to own I sit on a couple of contingency pilot, I mean not pilot, contingency constituency groups, one in transportation infrastructure, Hispanic elected officials and women in municipal government. And they were celebrating the 100th year. This conference moves around the entire country. So there are municipal electats from all over the country, not just floor it out or just not from here. So I'll go over some of the stuff that I participated for the whole week pretty much. So that's how they welcome us. They have a lot of connectivity and mobility. Like I said earlier, I did about 15,000 steps a day. So every time that I was there, just walked everywhere and took transit anywhere I could take. Obviously I flew on silver. I know sometimes it gets a bad plug, but it is another form of transportation. And these are some fellow commissioners from NIRMR, so they were on our plane. But this is what I'm really excited about. I haven't shown anyone, so they have an infrastructure hub. And obviously you see the entire state. And I think this cut out our star because I don't know the presentation as his border. But if you click on it and you touch Florida, then you would see that we were two cities, Gainesville from the last award and Bogey Raton. And I have the picture where you can actually see and I'll be posting. But everybody was asking us about, or me, about the grant program, how did you do it, how did you get there, and I had Mr. Beer give me some data as well when I got invited to sit with the Bloomberg philanthropy session with other cities from across the country, some that are just like about a thousand residents, and then you had us at 101 or you had Savannah, that's 300,000 so with a quick experience, that's my policy committee. This gentleman here is a commissioner in Emeryville, California that I met a few years ago at NACTO, but if you want to see some cool stuff on biking, his city's 10,000 residents only in California coast to Oakland and San Francisco, and what he has done for bike safety and being carless like carless area. He's also going to be our keynote speaker at Safe Street Summit that the entire council is invited to attend this year Palm Beach host, so the TPA is hosting and the conference will be in February and I hope some of my colleagues would attend and you'll get to hear everything that he did in infrastructure. I also spent a little bit of time in women and municipal government just understanding all the different changes that have happened concerns about usually the education and children, banning of books, and this is all at the national level. So concerns that other cities have that we also have in this group is a caucus of only women. There's a mayor, Mayor Caster from Tampa, and some of the league representatives that were there this week. Some of the speakers that came in and did all these inspirational speeches, and then there were breakout sessions. This woman, I wanted to bring this, I thought it was a feel. It's a sad story, but it's also a story of what we take our pledge rights to do this job. So Jeannie Taylor was married to Mayor Brent, who Mayor Brent Taylor from Utah, who was an active military and was actually a mayor when he got called back in. And he basically passed away a couple days before his 40th birthday. And she has now become a huge advocate of just everything city related. And she said, all these boards in Washington, they have seven children, they have seven children. And she said, she said it best, and you could go on to National League of Cities because we're a member city. So anybody on the day is can listen to everything that was presented. But she said, we best honor those who have been willing to give their lives for us by making something of honor out of the lives they have given to us. The story was, if you have that time to go back and listen to her keynote, it was profound. These are some of our vendors, some of other electives in the area. I went to the expo, trying to get new ideas on everything. They present on transportation, but also everything. It could be parking. It could be plants. It could be anything that touches the city. So that was a cool, this is a round table that I got invited to sit on. And then I was bringing some stuff, because it's amazing how they're able to change all their traffic patterns close out streets So this is where I stayed at the hotel and this is right across from the arena and I happen to be there two nights That they had the Tampa Bay Lightning play and Literally they just closed down roads shut things down and they're still getting police and fire in and out They're evacuating people if necessary. This is a huge arena, and I took a bunch of pictures. This is me in one of those circa multi-motor with fellow electives from different parts. I actually went from Boy-in, then I went to this luncheon, which I don't know if you guys familiar with Judy Hatchett. And she just did an incredible presentation about purpose, power and passion as an elected official and she's a judge so that was a cool thing. That's also they recorded it so I'm sure you could took that and then I happened to stumble upon this on my walk which was they closed the street for their tree lighting. So this is where they had the tree lighting in the middle of the downtown and they closed the street for their tree lighting. So this is where they had their tree lighting in the middle of the downtown. And they closed this street off at five o'clock, it was five to 11, and they just had people walking up and down, and everybody was getting in and out, and all the bars along the right side, they were all full of people just sitting, because you could sit on that, like kind of you could sit like on Pomatooro Park Road and then you could just kind of enjoy everything that was happening, talk about pedestrian and just connectivity and walkability there. I think I have a few of those. We also have to vote. We had to vote. I was a voting delegate and the gentleman on the left, Greg Ligowski, he was funding for Leadership for National Leader Cities. It's very funny. They set it up like if you were like in the electoral college. So then at night they had a really big street party. And they also had the NLC Centennial celebration with the temptations that performed. And it was very cool to see that. Those are duplicates. I think we might have duplicates. Are my going backwards? Maybe it was me, my apologies. And then this is some of our delegates that came from this area in Palm Beach. This is an interview which I'm going to hold off for in a second. What I don't see on the slides, which it's OK because I can have them put them in for tomorrow, all the Vision Zero. I had sent them to Angel, but maybe they didn't make them in. And I didn't review this yet, but I'll show you all the Vision Zero improvements and I apologize because I want to thank Angel. We put this together really fast, but we missed all the slides on the Vision Zero that I want to present. I'll do that tomorrow night and you can cue this. I think it was, I haven't heard it, but this one. I've become close. We're reminded that the NLC Centennial City Summit is an epic celebration of strengthening cities, towns and villages from 1924 to 2024. What would you say is one adjective or one feeling that you're going to leave this conference with? The one word that comes to mind right now is that was a word that on good times, Dino might to explode in my city like never before. Time for youth engagement managers. So attending some of the youths' dolly at sessions was really great and then seeing them come to other sessions too. I think the best place I took right now was economic development class, movie your city to sustainability. You have a great idea of some of all the cities and big cities all working together. Just giving it out of energy and out of motivation to go back to my job very well. I am here painting a live mural. So I'm inviting visitors to the conference to paint this 100 year anniversary mural with me and the mural is actually going to go back and live in the NLC offices in Washington DC where I am from so I'm very proud to be a part of this. From the food to the people to the bands the vibe everyone is amazing just to be on here and experience like being forwarded for the first time is just amazing. The highlight is I just left out the women municipal government lunch and Judge Hatchett was the speaker and she Left us with so much inspiration and she just gave the most inspiring Speech to us women to be bold to dare to lead with she said purpose passion and power I'll say I really just enjoyed the exhibit hall just now getting to be with the different vendors and getting to learn about some of the innovative takes that other cities are using. So at this point I just feel a little more prepared to go back home in in O'Gallos Arizona. But hopefully I'll use some of these tools that I put in my toolbox now to try to help the community. One thing we're excited about is that NLC is the body. We're here to support the body. I say each constituency grew within NLC. In supporting cities, they're supporting the work. And I would say that there's a place for every council person, every mayor that wants to take their leadership to the next level. NLC is the place where you can find that and receive that and congratulations on 100 years of success. So my takeaway for your fellow council members is that conference next year is gonna be in Salt Lake City, Utah. And I hope some of you will join me there next year. Thank you Madam Chair. That concludes my report. As we come. Thank you Mr. Rucker. And thank you for your continued advocacy, both locally and nationally, and you are our transit champion. So thank you. Mr. Wigter. Thank you. Mr. Brown, just quickly, one quick question. In order, as we consider the 4035 extension, my understanding from our conversations over the last few weeks and months has been that we would probably have to do a new traffic study in conjunction with that. In order to corroborate a lot of the data that's been discussed by our engineers and by our visitors and the groups with a lot of the things that they were considering as we consider extending and changing the OEs and those things that we be, you know, in order to analyze that and determine what the capacity is, we have to see how it's being used. We'd have to do a traffic study. Is that your understanding? Or could you please explain to me? We would have to analyze not just traffic, development patterns, availability of land, density and intensity. All of those factors are gonna have to be looked at because we will really be not extending what we have but creating something new. Because I don't think that we will have OEs per se, like we have them now in the future. We'll have some other measure of density and intensity. Okay, so certainly as people bring up their own data, when we do official studies, it will either corroborate or it will just clarify really what the data is showing and what we're planning around the official data. That and the historical facts that lead up to where we are and where we're going to be going. Appreciate that. And just on the top of my mind, a lot of reports tonight on various subjects. You know, I don't want to discount, you know, we talked a lot about evacuation routes and hurricanes and things like that, but I don't want to discount the importance of people getting to work in a reasonable period of time. And I assume that there are many, many people who live on the barrier island or whatnot that still have to use Palmetto to get to work every day. It's not just from urgency purposes, so certainly it's something we're going to be considering in our engineers and I think them. I just have a couple of... Mr. Riger. Mr. May, just please to follow on to your comment, a couple of comments in general about Palmetta Park Road. I think we always have to remember that is in South County, it's the only road that goes from the ocean to the range line. To 441 and beyond. It's the only continuous connection. And we want to have a vibrant downtown. I think that if we create a situation where there is so much traffic It's the only continuous connection. And we want to have a vibrant downtown. I think that if we create a situation where there is so much traffic building that people can't get to downtown anymore, they'll decide that there's not worth the trip. We have to be sure that we have the ability for them to get to the downtown as well as move around within it. And I think it's also important to remember that the data showed that about 50% are people coming in or going out, not staying around and moving. So there's a lot of traffic in and out of downtown that has to be accounted for as well. As we look at the design and the future of Pomato Park Road. Evacuation, yes, it's a very rare occurrence but daily travel in and out of downtown for business purposes, work purposes, shopping, whatever else it may be, we have to make sure that we have available capacity for people to move at reasonable speed in reasonable time. Just comments. Thank you. reasonable speed in reasonable time. So just comments. Thank you. Appreciate it. Like I said, if we could use this data and tie it into our circuit efforts and those other things, certainly would help because like we said, if our circuit is really supposed to be people starting in downtown or going in and out of downtown hopefully if people start to use it they'll be able to reduce some of those items right. We talked about this specifically I think council member Nockles talked about it the parking on the bike lane policy if we have one or we should maybe consider one this is of course North Second Street. I was driving by at the other day, and it's something that we started to see. It is the bypass in our downtown is Northease Second Street, right? So it's especially painted. It's beautiful. I use it except the cars are using it too. So maybe we can consider what they do up north, alternate side or one side parking only or something like that. We talked about that vehicle was in violation of the city code. Oh, what is the what is the rule? You can't park on the paved street. The bike lane is part of the paved street. This happens all over town all the time and police department manages it as best we can. Is there no parking permitted on this street at all? They can park in the swale, which is the unpaid portion of the roadway. But cannot have a vehicle parked on the sidewalk by lane or roadway. Okay, well maybe we could do signage or enforcement. Thank you for that. I was downtown at some function the other day, and of course, we talked about this so much. I saw the Boca Connect passing by, and so I stopped my meeting to go take a picture of the little bus. I didn't take a picture of the person coming out, and the person coming out was holding their lunch box. And so they're a little lunch bag thing. And I thought that was important because this was a person either coming to or going to, coming from or going to work. Right, it was something afternoon. So it was coming from work. So I said, it's getting there. This is about promotion. This is about people using it. And once they realize how easy it is to use and how beneficial it is, they will start using it. So like I said, when you see a picture like this, you know, you can appreciate that, that our efforts are being useful. Like I said, we're talking about all these things with innovation and whatnot. There was an article in the paper about, obviously, you know, we talk about the both of connect in the city. We have guidance. But when we talk about preparing for the future and generational changes, article in the paper the other day, Waymo has driven more than 20 million miles and two million rides without a serious accident. Guiden of course is testing this at brick. You see them around in the parking lots at FAU and near the airport authority. Over there, they're testing their vehicles and stuff like that. So the technology is getting there and likewise, we'll be planning with them as the future comes. But it is already happening now. So like I said, if we can get to that point where you have downtown Weimo Robotaxies, I can't even believe I'm just saying those words. But that could happen. And of course, it will help alleviate accidents and it's already happening now. So hopefully, you know, things that we can consider with our partners that are doing it in Booker Retone. Mr. Waker? Yes. On that note, at the FAU Tech Runway Awards the other day, the head of guidance came up to me and said that actually Ms. Drucker had helped introduce him to someone in West Palm Beach and that there is a project that came out of that. So he was appreciative of that and they are really wanting to do something in the city that they're in, in Boquerotown. And I had mentioned it to Mr. Brown. So he was going to talk to, I think, Mr. Beer, because I think there was some conversation also about not just the autonomous vehicles, but also they have the little robot things that can patrol in certain areas. So some kind of project that we can look forward to in the future would be great. Oh, the striker has something else on it. And also when I took a tour to Orlando, yeah, they have an area. It's got, I'm not going to remember the name now off the top of my head. It's kind of like a brick and it's a new city that they kind of like created from like parking lot. And now's a new city that they kind of like created from like parking lot. And now they have that car just taking you around. Like the ones from guidance, because they also work with another company that's up there at Nolendo. And if anybody on the council wants to ever get connected to any of these individuals, I could do the intro and you take it from there so you could have a one-on-one as well. So a lot of movement around this type of rides and also verteport, which is the helicopter pads. And I didn't give an update today on Florida League of Cities, which I'll do tomorrow because I was there the prior week and I haven't put that report together, but really cool things coming up. But we're looking at legislation. So, yeah, it's very cool. Awesome. Thank you for saying all that. Listen, like I said, there's so many opportunities, different ways of mobility. It is happening. You know, hopefully we could work with the staff and with guidance or other providers to work on the right location for a pilot program of this nature. Maybe literally, it's just, like I said, Meisner Park in a little downtown, or maybe it is literally Palmetto from the government campus to the beach. I'm not sure we could work with the parties like Connect. Connect gave us their recommendations, right? They're the experts. They're doing this in a hundred cities. They gave us their recommendations. right? They're the experts. They're doing this in 100 cities. They gave us their recommendations. Maybe the companies like Guide and Tourimaux can give us their recommendations and where they think is the best place to do a pilot program like this. Maybe on FAU campus, some place. But certainly when I see something like this, I know that it'll be adopted, right? When you see this level of traffic and accident reduction, you know it's technology that's gonna be adopted soon rather than later. So it's exciting that the conversation's happening. Finally, we talk about that's the future. We're expecting our past. There was a new exhibit. There's a couple exhibits. There's one at the museum, of course, with Perocespain. But it also celebrates our Centennial, which is beautiful. I recommend everyone to see it. And there's also a new exhibit at the Historical Society. It's an Addison Misen exhibit about our history. A couple of us were there, Councilmember Knachles, and I were there. And I've spent time with the curator Susan Gillis and looked at a lot of the old minute books, you know, book nerd. And so all the old minutes, the original minutes of the city they're there. And so I was whipping them out and talking to Councilmember Nockles about that. And the original minutes when we were chartered are around there. So it's interesting to see our focus in Tennial. So I've talked about this a little bit in the past, but I like my council members to consider. You know, we've been talking about a lot of events for our Centennial. I like my council members to consider. Maybe we can have a special meeting around the date of our chartering, and maybe we can have it at the Old Town Hall in the original council chambers. I think it should be in a notice special meeting. Maybe we can have an agenda. Of course, it'll be ceremonial in nature. Maybe we could read a portion of the charter, something like that. We have time to talk about this. Let's get some ideas. Of course, not to date you Mr. Brown, but I know you've showed me many times that your office was in the original city city hall. I believe were they in the council chambers or close by but yes in the Northwest corner of the building in the Northwest corner of the building so before the before the original I guess before the second city hall for the 1964 city hall before the 1964 city hall but so So I know we have a lot of history there and it would be and it just it's just something I think about it would be nice to honor that history in one way we have a lot of history there. And it's just something I think about. It would be nice to honor that history in one way to have a ceremonial meeting at some point, a special meeting. And I hope my colleagues will consider that. And we can talk about it with staff about the right way to do this and publicize it. Oh, and if it's televised, it should be in black and white. But anyway, there's so many events going on right now in the season. You can't list them all. It's go to my book of US, see what's going on. And of course, as we all were, we said, email us all your concerns all the time. We're happy to listen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Wigder. So I'd like to thank Downtown Manager Ruby Riley for putting together, as she always does an update for the next couple of weeks in the downtown. On November 23rd at 6 p.m. the city of Bochartone's holiday tree lighting is this Saturday at the Meiser Park Amphitheater. Bring the family for live musical performances, a craft station for the kids, selfie opportunities, costume characters, a holiday market, and food and drink for purchase before the ceremonial tree lighting by Mayor Singer. This event is free and open to the public. Learn more at Meiseramp.com. On November 23rd at 7.30pm looking for a one-of-a-kind experience in downtown, the studio at Meiser Park presents Cold Case Live, How to Sell a Murder. The show will feature an in-depth analysis firsthand-hand insights, reenactments, and more during an evening of shocking revelations as host Joe Kennedy from the real NCIS and stars TV wrong man takes audiences behind the scenes and walks them through the process of solving cases. Get your tickets now at Studio at Meister Park dot com. On November 24th at 7pm, the Meister Park Ampitheater will host the FAU Wind Ensemble, the Marching Owls, the Jazz Orchestra, and the Chamber Winds for FAU Band O'Rama. Bring your blankets and chairs and enjoy a great concert. More information can be found at MeiserAmp.com. And here's what's coming up at the Funky Biscuit. November 24th at 5.30 and 8.30. Carle Fisher's Sunshine City Brass. November 29th at 5 p.m., this Friday happy hour with 2 Cam Blue. November 30th at 7 p.m., Southern Blood. December 6th at 9 p.m. and 7 p.m., guitarist Mike Zido. And get your tickets at funkybiscuit.com. December 1st at 5 p.m., FAU presents their annual tuba Christmas at the Meiser Park Ampitheater. Stop in for this free holiday performance featuring an ensemble of tubas and euphoniums. Learn more at MeiserAmph.com. December 5th at 5pm, Park in the Park at Meiser Park is finally here. Rescheduled from earlier in the fall due to inclement weather, it's a perfect opportunity for you and your four-legged friend to enjoy pet-friendly photo booths, a DJ, caricature artist, a chance to win a downtown bokeh gift basket, food for purchase, and even a pet psychic. Visit the Meiser Park Facebook page at facebook.com slash Meiser Park for tickets and more information. December 4th at 7.30 pm, the city of Boqueratone's annual holiday street parade takes place along federal highway from Southeast Fifth Street to just north of the Meiser Park Amphitheater. Get there early to claim your good seats and please be aware Federal Highway will be closed from Camino Real to Glades Road from approximately five to 11 pm that evening. Learn more about the parade at myboka.us slash community events. December 6th at 7.30 pm celebrate the holidays with country music artist David Nail as he brings his campfire Christmas tour to the studio at Meiser Park. Known for his deep emotive voice and blend of traditional and contemporary country sounds, Nail has had several successful singles including Let It Rain and whatever she's got. Get your tickets now at the studio at Meiser Park dot com and Finally December 7th at 7 p.m. The symphonia and the Florida Atlantic University chorus will bring the magic of the season to the Meiser Park Amphitheater stage with their holiday pops concert Tickets can be found at Meiser Amp dot com. Thank you, Miss Riley for sharing those I have a photo up here since we last met I attended along with colleagues, the Boquerchond Museum of Arts ribbon cutting for the opening of Splendor and Passion Exhibit. It's a fantastic exhibit, one that you would see in any huge museum in any very large city, so it's definitely worth going to. There's also the opening, as Mr. Wrigher said, of said of the historical society's exhibit of Addison Meiser's legacy. The Red White Boca celebration on Veterans Day in Meiser Park was just fantastic. It was Meiser Park was full. It was a beautiful day and everyone who put that event together did just such a great job so congratulations to our staff. This weekend I saw the rock band OAR and you can see a picture of the amphitheater there. It was about 3,000 people or so there and it was a beautiful night and I was just really standing up there and watching all the people and listening to the music on this gorgeous night. It really solidified what I love about this area. And I was very happy to get there to see that. And then finally today, we put this picture in really quickly. Ms. Riley mentioned it earlier. The downtown Boca sign was unveiled. So please go and take some pictures with it and tag us on your social media, tag us with the hashtag DowntownBokah. A reminder to please visit downtownbokah.org and download the MyBokah app, keep up with all the happenings downtown and to report concerns. Please take the Downtown Mobility Survey on the MyBokah website and please ensure that you have the circuit app on your mobile device to access the free Boka Connect Shuttle in the downtown. A reminder to please visit and support all of the businesses in the downtown, especially the many small locally owned businesses and restaurants in the downtown. And of course, if you have any ideas you'd like to share with me or anyone on the council, please reach out to me at fnaclos at myboco.us or everybody else's emails or give us a call. We'd love to hear from you. And finally, I'd like to wish our son Alex a very happy birthday today. And with that and no other business to come before us, this meeting is adjourned at 5.12 PM.