All right everyone. Let's go ahead and move forward with our commissioners court this morning. Thank you all for being here today. As we start, I'm going to ask if Judge Mack, you're in the audience, you're with us. Judge, would you come and would you open our time with our invocation? And then would you also lead us in the pledges? Let's all stay together if you would please. And the great work that you all have in head of you, we're going to ask God's blessings to give you wisdom and divine direction. Father, we come to you today because we're blessed. We're blessed not only to live in the greatest nation in the world, but the greatest state in that nation. And you tell us God, if we studied should show and avoid profane and vain babbling that they will only increase ungodliness and you go on later to say God and the later as you're some of the gospel you tell him then the last day that there can be perilous times and we're living in perilous times and men are going to be lovers of their own selves and covetous and boasters and disobedient and unthankful and unholy and without natural affection and truce breakers and they're going to have forms of godliness but the neither power thereof but you tell us to turn and turn to you. So in this difficult time that we find us in, in the difficult chaos of people wanting to distract us from your word and from your will. I lift up every county employee that's represented by every department hitting an elected official that's going to be here in this honorable commissioners court that you'll give them the wisdom of solemn and that they will feel your divine direction and provision and that they will feel your presence and that they will make decisions according direction and provision and that they will feel your presence and that they will make decisions according to your word and your way because Montgomery County, so goes Montgomery County, so goes Texas, so goes Texas, so goes the nation. And there's nowhere to go if there's not a strong Texas and a strong Montgomery County. So we pray for a strength, we pray for guidance. You said if your people which would call on your name would humble themselves, turn from the wickedness and seek you that you would heal their land, God we need healing our land. So in Jesus' name we ask these things to be done and that you be with all of our citizens, all of our employees and everything that's gonna happen this week that it would give you glory. And we bind those things that are unclean or untrue that would try to distract and pull us away from what you want us to do in your will. We speak all this so. In Jesus name, all God's people sit. Amen. And now let us give honor to the great nation that we're blessed to live in. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. And now our great state honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God, one indivisible. Thank you, Judge. Thank you, Judge. We appreciate that so much. As we move forward, let the record reflect that all are here with the with one not being here yet, and that's Commissioner Noah when he comes, we will we will add him to the roll call. The motion to approve the Commissioner of Court agenda. We have a motion. There's a second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. We move to number seven. This is where our citizens have an opportunity to come and to share with us their thoughts about any item that might be on either the consent agenda or the open agenda. And we ask that you would keep your comments to those things and as you come forward, stay your name for the record. So it's which item it is and then understand that you have three minutes and we'll be keeping a time on that for you and at the end of three minutes is it is up if you would give us the courtesy of stopping where you're at. So if anybody here who would like to come forward, yes, and speak to any issues that are on the agenda. Station name for the record if you would please. Good morning to everybody. My name is Hector Duarte and the agenda item, this is my first time doing this. So it's pre-sync 2 and it is a 1A. So the opening of the consent agenda? Um. Two. All right, Paul, just have a round of address. You all listen. Okay. All of you. Okay. Okay. And so first this is I wanted to just talk about our specific street. And this is for Mr. Charlie Riley. Am I able to direct myself to Charlie? Thank you for your work in our roads and everything that you're doing. However, there's been a little bit of a problem in our road, in our area with drainage that you're doing. However, there's been a little bit of a problem in our road, in our area with drainage for a while now. And there hasn't been anything done in and around our homes. And we are in a floodplain, but there are times when we're almost flooding and we shouldn't. And that's because of the drainage. And we don't know where to do this. And Eastman behind our home around the streets. And it's just a problem. And even if we call your office, we always get pushback. And I love the prayer. And I believe that strongly. And I'm not here to babble. But if there's an atmosphere or some sort of culture that's in your office, Commissioner Riley, and then I was spoken to, we've spoken to a couple of people that work for you that have been very uncurious, not being able to help us, and actually saying things that are not correct or true. And so I would employ you, I've tried to make an appointment with you, and I just can't do it. So I would like to see if our street can be read on, repaid, and I've tried that for three and a half years now, three and a half years. And nothing's done. I know that the guy that was there before, promised that he would do it. The new guy said he promised he'd do it, and then he said he didn't tell me that. So that's a problem. And so if we could get that result, that would be fantastic, somehow. Because I know that we are just two citizens of hundreds of thousands, but I think all of us matter and would like to get that resolved if you don't mind. Okay. You talk to Bruce Barter before you get out of here. He'll set you up. We'll have a meeting and we will talk. Thank you. Thank you all very much. We appreciate it so much. All right. Is there anyone else who would like to come forward and make any comments on any item on the open or on the consent agenda. All right, there being none, let's move on to item number eight, Procumations, Resolutions and Presentations, Montgomery County Historical Commission. Are we here today? Is Larry here? You should just make a motion if you'd like to. I move. I move. I move. I move. I move. Is there a second? All in favor? Hi. Post. Motion carries. Thank you all very much. All right. I move. I move. I move. I move. I move. I move. I move. Um, there is there a approval for action, a motion to approve whether any modifications that we need to make. I move on the consent agenda. Have a motion. Second, the modifications. All in favor. Pose. All right. Let's move forward into our open agenda. County Judge, consider, discuss and take appropriate action regarding fiscal year 25 operating budget for the Montgomery County Central appraisal district. We all got received a copy of this. We have spent some time on it. I have talked with Tammy about it. My my feelings are as I make a motion to pass this budget and approve it. If there's a second then we'll have discussion. I'll make a second. I'll second. We'll have a motion. We have a second. So any discussion? I mean, I thought you was going to help us out here and bring somebody up and... Yeah. If you can share a few things with us, that would be great. Please know, Commissioner Noa, I could share with us. Good morning, Judge Commissioners. Yes, I would like to bring up and introduce some individuals. First, we have our interim chief appraisers, Sherry Hunter, our deputy chief appraisers, Jake Martinez, our CFO client, our Arthur Bredehaw. He is on the board, but he is also the chair of the Budget and Finance Committee, and then we also have one of our board members with us, Mr. Smith, please stand this way. So this is Frank Smith, and he is actually on the board representing the county. He's one of our representatives. So they are also here if you have any specific questions but I just wanted you to put a face with a name and I would just like to say they have done an outstanding job of presenting and preparing that budget a lot of thought and care went into that budget and that was at the leadership of Arthur Breedhoff and the whole MCAD executive staff. So I really appreciate everything they've done for this budget. Yeah, I'm excited about some things. I know that with the increase in population certainly in your desire to be more accurate and to hit all of the homes or addition of some people, but also in the going back to the flyover, which somehow we abandoned at some point, but I think will be a tremendous help. It will be. For me, as I look at this, think about what needs to be done. So thank you very much. I appreciate it. We have a motion in the second. Is there any more discussion? Could you walk us through some of the increases? Could you walk us through some of the increases? Like some? Could you walk us through some of the changes to the budget? Yes, I'm going to call Frank up for that. I'm sorry. Arthur. Arthur, can you come up? Judging commissions that honor to be here and thank you for the opportunity. The 25 budget was a balanced budget where as the county continues to grow we had to bring on additional resources and people to support our mission called appraising. So we brought on, we're proposing to bring on six newer prazers that's everything from either entry-level appraiser to an experienced appraiser. So we put that in a budget to capture the talent that's out there. We have not increased staff since 2019. We've been at our 100 since 2019 right through 2024. The other thing we had invested in technology to help appraizers out to locate properties on land that people will not let you go on. So that we brought that in. We're going to pay for it in a 25 budget, but the vendors agreed to execute in 24 so we can go back to two years. So that's going to start in the fall of 24. We want to continue to capture more properties as this county grows that a taxing units can have these properties to assess taxes to make sure it's fair and equitable for everybody. We also had a deal with a proposed 19 percent increase in all types of insurance, particular medical insurance that's driving these increases. And we will not know the actual cost on a lot of eating insurance till December of 24, but we had to go back and start planning in April of 24 for 25. So it's about an eight month planning cycle and you don't really know some of the real cost until December. So we think we did some good budgeting to try to anticipate where costs are. You also had an inflation factor of 4 percent and we're dealing with a lot of just ordinary cost increases like postage. We do a lot of postage at MCAD, excuse me, even an electronic age. I know that's surprising, but there's a lot of mail that still goes out, and a post office continues to increase. And we have to invest in rewarding our staff, right? For performance of good performance, so we have a merit increase in the 25 budget of 3.5%. But that's not across the board. It's not a cola. It's based upon merit and it's based upon performance. And we also have to retain employees. Our workforce is a lot newer because we had a lot of experience retired at MCAD so we have a newer workforce. The newer workforce is different in today's world. You guys know that, you see that every day in the departments in the county in general. So we think we have a good balanced budget. The overall increase was 9.85%. We also added a new section in the budget for the Board of Directors. We now have a nine member board, so we have increased cost to deal with a nine member board versus a five member board. And that will be fully executed in 2025. The nine members started in July 1 of this year. The three elected by the citizens were seated on July one of 24. And those are some of the drivers that have really, an additional driver is litigation with the rocket docket that the judges insisted on. Litigation costs become more within the 12 month budget cycle, where historically it's expanded over a couple years, two or three years. So most of the litigation and mediations and arbitrations have to be solved within the 12 months. The way we're being driven by the court. Was this the first year for that? It's really the second year that we're seeing the first full impact of this from a budgetary cycle. So after there, we should be consistent. Yes. You should see the big things, you think. And the other thing is this, the 25 budget is year two on the special assessment for the software. And I was a five year assessment of fixed price per year at $956,000 for the new software. So 24 is the first year we're executing that. We're still going through some growing pains and adjustments and it should be a lot smoother in 25. Is all the software updated now? All the software is installed. We're going through some of the, let's say bugs to get it out. That's a couple years. That's really been a booger. Yes. And we appreciate the court last year at SupportNet and it's been executed in 24. Sherry, anything you like that? So the only other thing that I would like to add is for as with the budget and everything. One of the, I know that it's always been an issue as far as our merit. One of the main things that I want you all to understand is that we are trying to be good stewards of the taxpayers' money. And so in looking at our salary line item with the merit raises because of the loss of the experience, we were still able to bring in the additional employees as well as offer that merit with just a slight increase of about 2.5% in that budget line item. So that tells you just how much experience we actually lost over the past year. So I just wanted the court to consider that in approval of our budget. Our average experience with the new workforce is dropped about five years. So, but we're in a process of rebuilding that and this budget helps us rebuild that. And the support of this court would go a long way in the partnership. So, we would ask the court to consider that support. Do you, Judge, do you remember what the increase in your budget was last year? Anyone? Yeah, the overall increase was about 17% because we had two things we had the new software. I don't need an explanation. I was just asking if you remember what it was. So that was over to 23 budget. Let me speak now. Yes, sir. So that would mean that you need a 26% increase in your budget in two years. Any other board would be fired if they came with that sort of presentation. I appreciate you and I like you as a person, but this, I think, I've got out of control. There is no way that I would support that and to correct you, this court did not support the board's request last year. And I'm going to make a motion that we also see here say no. There's a motion on the table right now to approve it. Motion and a second and we're in discussion. All right, then I'll say so on a vote. Okay. And that's that's your call. We have Ms. Ritya the discussion. I appreciate the fact that more of y'all came up here this year. The first time that I've seen more than just the chief of praise, or I think I don't think anybody before this year has come besides just the chief of praise. And I appreciate y'all. I appreciate the CFO. I appreciate the author. I appreciate the all y'all putting the work in that y'all, I appreciate the CFO, I appreciate the author, I appreciate all y'all putting the work into what y'all did on this budget. And I did look at the budget, I didn't memorize the budget, I didn't, I can't tell you everything that's in that budget. And I know it's a pretty stout increase, but I have to believe that there's just so much with all the new people moving in, with all the growth, with everything that's happening, with what we had to do last year with the software. I can't remember what all we did last year. I do remember that we... Some of the questions I'll back and had y'all redo something, y'all came back with a different budget. I think y'all pretty well massage this thing as much as you can. I know you need the people, I know you probably need the salary increases. We all do, I understand all that. So I appreciate what all y'all have done with this budget and I'm going to go ahead and move to, I'm on a vote to approve the budget. I can't have a firm We already have motion to second stolen any more discussion Commissioners, I do want to let you guys know recation. I did review the budget I work with Clint on the salary, you know going to back and forth with the salaries nothing in the salaries We did compare them to some county salaries and some of the some of the that do our comparable, we didn't see anything on the personnel size that did, but I just wanna let you guys know, we did review on the personnel side of their budget. With some issues that we had over the last couple years in scrambling the way we have this year, this is safe to say that, okay, we do this. You guys have got this deal wired, so we don't have to keep going through those kinds of things. Is that a fair statement, Tammy? I know there's always a potential for glitches, but not like last year. I will just say that the software, although it has had a few bugs, there's always growing pains when you do a software conversion. We went through that when the Kentwin, my office, had a software conversion. I will say that I have 100% confidence in the software. I think that it's going to bring the district up to where they are able to do somewhat real time transactions. And by that we all know the woes that we've had with the backlog of exemptions. Sherry came in. we appointed her as the interim chief, and she can correct me if I'm a speak here, but they I have received a lot. I mean hundreds upwards of thousands, thousands of homestead exemptions, over 65 exemptions. And the software has allowed them to expedite those processes. And so I think they're in a good place and I know that it's a large expense. I recognize that Commissioner Noct. But I think last year there was some confusion when the court opposed the budget. You all wanted to, you all meant to, I heard some of y'all say we support the software side of it. We don't support the other side and the largest increases of course from the software. And it's something that they needed and I think it's going to do everyone a good job. What is the increase if you had six people, six additional people in your budget? We have a seven. Seven for what is the, what is the percent increase just by adding those people? I think that's what Shae was saying, judges, that they did absorb a couple of those positions along with the merit increases on a total two and a half percent. Right, okay. Judge on the salaries comparing 25 salary proposed at a 24, it's 2.5% increase on the salaries. And also to you, there's a lot of pressure on the ARB and the litigation. That's a line item that continues to be pressured to be, there's more money being invested in that because as more protests go on, that's something that we're able to handle, these protests any quicker than what we were. I can give you some insight on that if you want me to. So when we started this year, it looked as if we needed to hear 1,635 counts each day. The board at that time can only handle about 280 counts because that's 10 boards, 10 of prazers. Currently right now we only have 16 appraisers. So for those of you to have anybody extra work with other individuals, we don't have that currently right now. However, with that new software, what it did allow us to do is do online offers, express offers to the agents. That 1634 property that we have to visit each day, we can really only handle about 750 coming to the door with a show up rate. We've made up that difference with the software, with staff members working overtime to this year. We did not make 95 on the date that we wanted to make it. I think we were at what about two and a half weeks outside of that. But we also, because of the conversion, noticed about two and a half weeks later as well. We get the extra staff members. We're gonna be able to have folks on the phone as well because that was a big issue this year as well. And we'll be able to be more timely on our protest, Chair. And so this year we didn't make that 95 on the day we wanted to, but it was a huge success because of the simple fact, we get those three weeks back and we notice timely this year. We're at 95 which allows Tammy to do her calculations even sooner and then we're only left over with a small percentage to handle. So have any six other praises are going to allow us to put more properties on the roll combining with the software we talked about the aerial photography earlier. Right now if we go out we're able to capture properties that we may be missing on a rose from 2021. That's one reason why we worked with the arrow photography this year. What is the cost of doing an aerial photography? $351,000 is what it costs us. Now the potential of money that we could get off of that as far as revenue for the count. You're talking about million plus probably because if we don't get properties that we may have been missing on the roll since 21 on the roll by February, that's revenue that would be lost because by law we can only go back three years. When it February 1, we would lose that year so that's why we thought it was very important and to get this area of photography on the ground right now and and we were thankful that the company allowed us to roll that over into our 20 20 25 budget so we could capitalize on that. So what I'm hearing right now with aerial photographs, aerial pictures, new software, new people, protests should be handled a whole lot quicker. We should know we should know more about who's got what that we don't know now that will be on the tax road. Yes. All of this is going to improve all the the tools that are definitely needed. Yes. I got. There's more fare for everybody. What's the average length of a protest now? We know. I was in at least of a protest can be 15 to 30 minutes. We'd like to say that when you go into a hearing, it's going to be probably around 15 minutes of time, but you know conversations go, it can go quite a bit longer now. As far as stretching it out over the year, we start around May 15th with a hearings and we end we're supposed to be done to get 95 July 25th. That's over 70,000 property owners that can potentially come through that door. I think we're over 95,000 protests this year. So you can see we need demand power. And then when everyone is doing hearings, we don't have anybody on the phones. And that's one. Yeah. And that's one of the things we're also utilizing this year, trying to go to 99 employees to have a phone bake of at least eight people in house that they can be on our system and actually give a property owner some information back to them versus, hey let me get let me pass you through to someone that's not sitting at their desk unfortunately and we're pulling from other properties, other departments as well, our sales and analyst department, they analyze sales right now. They should be doing it from when we start protest season all the way around so we can have values out accordingly. We're having to pull those folks as well. OK, thank you. So, appreciate it. I have a question for anyone that wants to answer it. So the Terrent County appraisal district, they came with a set of proposals that I find to be interesting. One is that properties are going to be appraised every two years instead of every year. They also will not reappraise existing residential properties for the of every year. They also will not re-appraise existing residential properties for the 2025 tax year. Going forward, residential appraisals increases are gonna be capped at 5% unless the appraisal district presents clearing convincing evidence that a higher evaluation is warranted. And they will also consider previous reductions when appraising properties. First, I would like to, I will let them anyone else speak, but some of those things are outside of the statutory requirements for appraisal. They cannot, for instance, the 5% cap, that is not in statute. It has been proposed year after every session and has not been successful. When it is successful, then the appraisal district themselves. But a board cannot do that. A board cannot arbitrarily. And I think that we'll see some litigation from that. That may be so, but it's definitely a step in the right direction as far as trying to rein in the excessive increase in appraisals that are driven by the state, not the appraisal district. So let's be fair. But y'all are under pressure and it all really revolves around school funding, making sure that the public schools get the funding that they need. But I think a board having the courage. I mean, if you can ask for a 26% increase in your budget in a two year period, I think a board having occurred. I mean, if you can ask for a 26% increase in your budget in a two-year period, I think you can also suggest some ways in which you can be a better proponent of the taxpayers of Montgomery County by saying, for example, can they say, we'll only reapprise every two years. Is that something that the board can do? I think commission what you're going to see, the board's going to put together some ideas for our elected officials. I think there's a great opportunity with legislative session 89 to really make some fundamental changes to improve equity and fairness in appraisals. So I think you'll see more at you'll hear more that you can't suggest the same types of changes this year. This we can but Montgomery County can't is what you're saying. Well there is some that we can do. So our primary goal is to value all the property that sits within Montgomery County as of January 1st. So we have to have accurate knowledge of all of that property. So our primary goal is to make sure that we have a correct list of all the properties that sit within Montgomery County. Now when we're re-appraising the properties, we do have a two-year re-appraise with plan that we go by because by law we have to re-appraise the properties every two to three years. So we can do that. We are seeing that the growth is with the Montgomery County as far as a lot of the new construction. With the limited staff that we have, our primary goal has been on that new construction, getting that new construction and that is sitting on the ground on to the appraisal role so that they can be valued accordingly. Now, when it comes to the properties that's already listed, that's where the area review program will come in because like I stated before, by law we have to re-appraise properties every two to three years. So we have to make sure that our roles are accurate and correct in order for those values to be determined. I oppose the budget increase and I hope there's a way that the taxpayers of Montgomery County can find some relief in the valuations. I was going to just Mr. Nox question about the 20th century increase up until the 2023 the budget inside the cab was not even making increasing the population at our county, our growth in our county is growth rate. So it already was behind, way behind by 2023. As a matter of such a need for a catcher, I understand you can put it in a perspective the last two years in this sounds like a humongous number. But when you've been behind for eight years, that number's barely getting you to the catch and you up. The board would be responsible for why you were behind, not us. And probably not all that board at that time with that happened. The board's failure, I didn't say this board. I said the board's failure. OK. Well, we had to make up for those. We're not there. I didn't say this board. I said the board. Okay. Well, we had to make up for those. Let me, I want to make one more comment. For us, we, like Miss Sherry said, it is, we do every three years of reappraisal, but that does not stop sales coming into neighborhoods where everybody is buying and selling for more money. And when a sale comes into a neighborhood, let's say you have 10 cells in replantation or the brand new subdivision, to get that neighborhood, we have to value those properties accordingly. And if we have cells that we don't value accordingly, then we get audited each every other year by the state. If you recall a few months ago, the school districts are going to lose their funding because our values stated that we are at 94 to 93 percent of market value. The law states we got to be at 100 percent of market value. So if we don't have the staff members to get out there to make sure these properties are praised correctly, we can't control the sales that take place in Montgomery County. If anybody's bought a home lately, you realize that these values have been up tremendously. And it is our job to make sure that we have those homes of praise accurate and correctly, because if we don't, the state's gonna come in and auto does this and say, hey, you have this property of praise at 300,000. It's over 350. You're at 93 or 94. And then the school district's gonna lose their funding. So that's where we would love for values not to change each and every year because that would put less pressure on us. I promise you, 95 to 100,000 protests, we would love not to have that. But unfortunately, that's going to happen each year when we have tens and 12,000 lots of being put on the ground, each year in new homes that we have to value by law. And if we don't do that then everybody's going to be accountable for that if we're at 93-94 in the school districts who are funding. So we don't attack properties each and every year. We follow the sales data. If they're sales data in the area, we have to either lower or raise the property value. And that's as simple as it gets. But no one likes to pay taxes. I promise you that. But that's why we have to appraise properties accordingly. So as I asked the question earlier, because we do need to look all for the question here, as I asked the question earlier, there have been a bunch of glitches in the process. I don't know how else to say it. Yes sir. And by the software, the addition of the prazers, by the flyovers, which are all adding to this budget, correct? Yes sir. Yes sir. You will, this will help us to get to where we need to be so you won't come back and you're, obviously if there's increases in whatever there's going to be but to come back because I think that the commissioner makes a great point. If you think about that but if you're adding these things you're doing it I would have to go with Commissioner Riley in his position on that and as well. They where we have a motion we have a second I'm calling for the question all those in favor of this budget say I I post both both I'm Yeah, there's three two so budget passes. Thank you all very much. I appreciate you time. Appreciate all right moving on If we go to item number two emergency management. Morning, gentlemen, commissioners. Morning. The first item is 11 a. Considered a discussion with the action regarding this astro-PTO owned for Hercane Borough. If necessary, please name the funding source. As you recall last quarter, I brought an item forward to ask the court to extend the policy to allow that time earned for disaster PTO to the end of the fiscal year. Or excuse me, into the calendar year, December 31st. Commissioner Noak asked for some information related to if we were to pay that out. How much would that be? Amanda's done the research on that. She has those numbers. To pay all employees that earned the time, Commissioner, it is, we have a 1., just salary alone is 1.4 million. So based on that number, I revert back to my original request to request the court just extend the use of that time to the end of the calendar year, December 31st, and not pay that out. I move. I oppose. I believe if we extend it out, these guys are the folks who are me taking this time to then to year, it's going to cripple the precincts. And I'd rather put a little bit more of a compressed time on that and that would even more cripple us with the compressed time the current policy is within 90 days we're 30 days into that now so that would mean during hercane season the front of the folks arening this for the essential personnel would need to take in the next 60 days several hours hours off. My department alone at average is 62 hours per person. And I understand that, but what we're gonna see is no one there from November to January. They bank their time from most of the year anyway, so the passes, the passes, but that's my position. Understood. Yeah, we do have, thank you. Commissioner, we have a motion to second. This is in discussion. Any more discussion All right all in favor. I pose Commissioner your pose clerk. Yeah, pose Thank you all very much motion passes item 11b proceed consider suggest take appropriate action regarding the extension of the previously approved exception The overtime policy to extend approval through the papyade ending August 16th 2024. I we've had the last two papyades in there. This is mainly for the road and bridge department and those essential personnel that are still dealing with recovery after this debris removal. Emotion second motion the second a discussion. All in favor? I pose. Motion carry. The last one's really an update. I don't believe I have a motion unless one of the commissioners has a need to make a motion. It's regarding the ongoing operations or cover effort just to give you an update as of yesterday. The debris contractors have removed 788,000 cubic yards of debris for a significant amount in the last 24 days since April, they had landfall, 28 days since we started debris removal. We're significantly ahead of our regional neighbors that are also having the same issue with picking up debris. Averaging about 35,000 cubic yards a day and we'll be nearing the completion of the first passes by the end of next week. We'll be puttingaring the completion of the first passes. By the end of next week, we'll be putting out a registration link for a second pass registration process that will also include anyone that may have been missed in the first pass. They can register and then we'll get them picked up during the second pass of each of the zones. So stay tuned for that. And then the cul-de-sac's as a reminder, are always going to be last in the process because we have to disconnect one of the trailers on the trucks in order to get into those cul-de-sac safely so are all the crowd are drove trucks still here? Yes or we've not released any trucks at this time. Jason are there still or trucks coming to precinct three from other parts of the county still? It just depends on how the proximity to where they're picking up into the debris site is. So there are trucks going to pre-seeing three location because they're coming from two or maybe four because you're the closer one. And we're happy to provide that assistance. However, it does cause a major disruption to Orwell, SMGSL, and the South County Football League. Unfortunately because we operate right in their parking lot it is just not safe to have creds there. I would like to request that as soon as we can we shut the precinct 3 facility down. We were the first to open. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's really good. I think that's season maybe September 15th. So what's the closest location to his? The next closest location is going to be either yours in Magnolia or 49 there. Not that far. How much more do you have to go? I mean, 75% done. 75% on first pass. So there's a lot more. There's still a lot more to breathe ago. Now there may not be near as much in the in the precinct three vicinity because they were hit hard but they also had a really good first pass a lot of folks got their stuff out uh... but a lot of residential free our own uh... we have people bringing into us is but uh... you know that the places like river plantation for instance we have to go further to get to the debris site in the oral closer we to budget? I haven't been invoiced yet so as of right now I'm not been told by the contractor that we should go beyond our not to exceed amount that's already been approved. So how much do we have over Egypt left? I mean I haven't been there unless I'd have to get back to Egypt and research and Egypt not much You got a lot there. I was good there's anything there now. Oh When I was at that corner and over the weekend it was those are yesterday Yeah, so they bring that to three to be shredded Shredded three or four locations. I can pull up the list But you were pretty tight on there so the three largest locations that we have, we have Oral, I'm precinct three, the airport, which is right next to OEM off of airport road, and then in precinct four in East County, that facilities, the next largest for debris removal, the New Canaan mud district, is actually the second largest in the amount. Probably some space around 242 if somebody wanted to. The problem would be permitting. At this late stage in the probably some space right to 42 if somebody wanted the problem would be permitting at this at this late stage in the game getting a permit to relocate a site would be a very long process that would delay you to get we would be done with second second pass and finish with this project before we went through that process and got it completely out about a week on the last one I got Nathan you know I may have burned a few bridges with state agencies to get it done in a week but i mean it judge and i were in austin couple weeks ago that was one of the clinton the other elected officials were we're giving feedback to the senators and house members was t-c-q really gets in our way when it comes to debris removal and stuff because they want to follow the process for permitting as if it's not in every day, like it's an everyday occurring facility. And this is a disaster related facility. We're not going to be doing debris removal there 24, 7, 365. And so we were able to get it done so we wouldn't be spending two or three weeks waiting on debris to start. I mean, we landfall 34 days ago. I'm not waiting at some. Yeah. They don the ones driving the roads with the monitors so they know how much debris is potentially coming in the second half. It can't happen. I mean, I understand this is a natural disaster that affected the whole county. I don't want to put precinct three above the interest of the rest of the county, especially when, you know, this is devastating. Some, just for a shot. I went over and I drove through that area, spent some time over there. And that was the right call. You have that one road that goes in and out, you got 250 plus vehicles, double trailer vehicles coming in and out of there a day. And there's no way parents with kids and all the rest will. And it's set up to sundown. So it's a 20 hour 30 hour something. Yes, correct. You know when they're grinding that material it's blowing and it gets in your eye. Yeah. I mean it's a it's a it's a best just to put in perspective so you you would have the data commissioner. At all location we've taken in 368,000 cubic yards so it's about 50% of the counties debris has gone to that location and that's if you look at the map when I thought if I lay the feeder bands over the map and then plot it with the hot with a heat map of where the registrants were we had about 17,500 registrations for debris removal it is there the closest place to that is going to be war wall. So we don't want like we don't want the next one is a rough mission process for the rest of the community and we're all we're all one So we're gonna get to the organ today and get Morgan to reach out to Crowder and try to rack our brains Do what we can do I can't find another field to play on I mean actually Yeah, send them over to EMC. We'll take all your baseball players Have I mean you know they have 10 plus fields there. Postponing it would get into football seats, right? Postponing it would require a relinquish the mic. Amanda wanted to give a quick update. So we did have that first pay period for barrel actually did post into the GL. So you are seeing that against your budgets. At this time, we are still moving money into the budgets. That bailed the first round first pay period for the overtime alone was $890,000 on the county and that did have a funding source of contingency contingency. We're working the numbers to get but just know on I'm letting you guys know because it affects your budgets along with the other departments. It could be a little bit of time before you see that money back into your budget to replenish those costs just because we are trying to go through and find more money for contingency. It could be a little bit of time before you see that money back into your budget to replenish those costs Just because we are trying to go through and find more money for contingency All right, thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that Jason. Appreciate so much. Dirty human resources Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen. We looked at a med with budget payroll in the auditor's office and I think that's it. To discuss our disaster policy, Amanda and Jason both mentioned earlier. We are, you know, a lot of money to pay all this over time. So what we did is collectively, we went through the budget or through the policy, it made some changes to it to better define pay codes and how to use them, to define how people can carry over their time accrued into next year. Just for the disaster, it will, there will be 90 days. But if you, if they, um, yeah, from January to September, they will carry that time over. I'd like for you all to approve this. Say that one more time. So the policy before you proposes that if disaster PTOs are in from January 1 through September 30th, they have to December 31st of that calendar year to use it. If it's earned from October 1 to December 31st, they have till June 30th the following year to use it. The reason for that change is those highlighted areas where we have the flood season in January through May and in hurricane season. We're not strapping the departments with having to use that within 90 days and me coming back to court every every time we have a situation like this and asking for an exception to the policy, we're building that exception into the policy based on best trends of how to use that time more appropriately. And if the code takes as we ask as we go, we ask as we go, yeah, this plan for these days. So there was a couple of pieces of feedback I got from members of the court when they were asking you know every week we're having to take this decision about PTO or overtime could we simplify this so we were not having to come to court every single time this happens. So those ideas with payroll auditors office, the county attorney's office and Dodie's office with me and Amanda assisting kind of early culmination of what's the documents before you. All right. We have a motion to approve. Motion is your motion. It's the first time we have moved. I'll put on. Okay. We have a motion. The second discussion proceed. Is this just this first time? No. Sorry. It's in our policy manual. But it's the first time we've done a revision of it. Well, that's what I mean. I'm sorry. This is a revision of the current policy. Yes. Yes. It might be good next time to give us the current policy versus the new policy so we can see what the changes are. Because being the first time really the plan said that I know we talked about it you and I did so I'm fine but it's good on all right we have a motion we have a second I'm confused it's more time to take your basically it's from 60 days commissary 90 days commissioner to depending on when the event happens is depending on when you have to use the particular disaster time that you will cruise this is if your employees have to work. I got it. Okay. That prevents us from having to come to court and discuss it automatically in policy. Okay. I was completely confused. That's the largest change. The second largest change is the policy before it was revised as you see it now had old payroll codes and things within it because of the old timekeeping system. It hadn't been revised since we switched in for. So there's changes in that that bring it into the line with our current system. It also defines the employees that are over time eligible already and how to cover them. Contract employees are included in this. If they're under contract or a grant fund, how their departments will be funded for those specific disasters. And it's all, as I said, the four of the auditors better keep best keeping practices as well as payroll is on board with this. So they were not constantly having to send out updates and emails and things every few days when it comes to disaster. The bank disaster time is basically more equitable before just depending if you worked 14 hours that day, the new bank 14 hours now, it limited to you're banking the disaster hours based on their state Okay, based on eight hours just don't have anything to do with the 80 hour exemption rule none of it Okay, we still commit mission square for the for that Okay, so we have a motion second there's a more discussion All in favor I pose Motion carries thank y'all. Thank you, Doty. Thank you, Jason. Taxicessor collector. Consider discuss and accept the rates through this year. Okay, this is the other side to what happens after a prezo. So I just want to add, before I get into the tax rate side of it, accuracy of the data is most important to me whether a prezole is up, down, exemptions is accuracy of the data is most important to me whether a appraisal is up, down, exemptions is accuracy of the appraisal. And so that's what we're all aiming for here. But my item 13A, consider discuss and accept the 2024 No New Revenue, voter approval and de minimis tax rates. So before you, you have those three calculated rates. The new revenue rate this year is 0.3480. Demenemous rate is 0.36001. Voto approval rate 0.3875. And overall, we had a 9.9% increase in our taxable value after the phrase. And the average assessed home in Montgomery County is 393,394. You apply our 20% home state exemptions to that and it brings it down to $314,715. And I know we're going to, statutory, I have to present these rights, and then we're going to drill down into it when we get into budget workshop later this afternoon and throughout the week. But I'm happy to answer any questions on the House. Current rate. Current rate 0.36, 9.6. Say that again. 36.96. What was the very approval rate last year, Tammy? Last year? Yeah. Oh, Judge. I don't know that. I'll bring it back this afternoon for our budget workshop. Yeah, we're going to. Okay. All right. Thank you. Do we have a motion for the move? The motion is in a second. Second. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Tammy, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Budget, talk to us, Amanda. Good morning, Judge Commissioners. I am here today first. I'm going to just give you a kind of an update as to where we're at. Like I told you guys last time I was here, well last time I was up here presenting about the budget that I was still calculating. And so that's exactly what we've been doing. We've been calculating. I have provided each of you guys. This is basically going to be your workshop materials that we're providing for your office and for your teams is in this binder here. And I've attached, I've given each of you guys a copy of that. With this being said, FY 25 preliminary, when I presented it a couple, a few weeks ago, it was 454, 254, 095. Now we're up just a little bit at 455, 183, 20, but you will notice that the general fund side has gone down a little bit. And that is because like I told you before, we are recalculating specifically attrition vacancy rates along with how can we move some of the expenditures that are eligible for special revenue funds. How can we take those off the taxpayer backs and put them onto the special revenue funds, which those fees are collected and generated specifically for a purpose. So you also see here that the debt service fund did go up slightly. John Wilbuck will be here at Workshop on Thursday at 10 a.m. to kind of discuss why that went up and some changes that we're seeing in that area. Budget status, so between now the difference between the FY24 adopter and FY25 updated preliminary is a little over 22.6 million. That is an indicator of a 5.22 percent increase between all funds compared to a CPI in inflation of 8.37, which is when we started the budget process. I know that that could have gone down just a little bit since we started the budget, but that's where we are right now. Like I said, calculations, last time I called it a rich range. Now I moved that word to CURSE because they could change. We did, like as Tammy showed you, MCAD certified values are included in our updated preliminary values, preliminary budgets. So we do have that along with we are still doing a few special revenue fund calculations, not as many. As commissioners court asked us last time we were here, we will discuss coal options in the budget workshop. We do have some of those calculated so that you guys can see some options on that. And then in excited your packet, and I would think I give it to you most of you guys, in a prior two weeks, is that updated list of salary changes and upgrades. Where we are in the budget process right now is we are conducting budget workshop. I'm starting this afternoon at 1 o'clock. We intend to go pretty much all afternoon today. The whole day tomorrow and finish probably around 2. We're shooting for about 2pm on Thursday. That's kind of where we're at right now. Tammy gave you guys the certified values look like. In page basically, I put out in page zero of your worksheet. I will say that right now in our updated preliminary, our current tax rate for the preliminary budget, we're seeing is 3682. So 3682 is what we're seeing currently as the preliminary budget as you can see on page zero which is right after the table of contents. So that's where we're at now. Again that is going to change as we go through the workshop but that just kind of gives you an idea where we're at right now. And then I'll present more on some options and what is up for workshop. And when we start today, I want to clap. Okay, you guys have any questions from me right now? Well, that's good. Thank you very much, Amanda, for the overview. We appreciate it. Thank you, Amanda. All right, adult probation. Morning. Good morning. Thank you for being here. Good morning, Judge and commissioners. Good morning. The government code requires that our state funds budget, which is our probation budget, is approved by the Board of Judges, which it was on August 2nd, but we are also statutorily required to present it to Commissioner's Court. I've presented you with copies of our various budgets, including our basic supervision budget, which is based off of population projections. Our community corrections budget, which is formula funding. The rest, the next three are programs that we have that are special grants that the state provides funding for. And then the final budget, our bond supervision budget, is 100% funded by the fees collected from bond supervision defendants. The county does actually provide a little bit of funding to pay for indigent services on that bond budget, but that's not part of the budget I'm presenting to you guys this morning. I do want to make sure the commission's court does know this budget does include a COLA, is that right, or salary change? It does. The legislature included a writer at the beginning of fiscal year 24 to increase salaries by 5% for employees that are paid more than 60,000 a year, employees that make less than 60,000 a year get a $3,000 salary increase each fiscal year of the biennium. So it's about just more informative, you don't really have a decision on that, but it's just free out of the formation on that. Great. Booth. Second. I was very in discussion. We have a motion in a second. I've moved to defer it since we're fishing to go through budget hearings and look at those. We already have a motion in a second on the floor unless somebody wants to remove their motion. Sure, I'll do it and we can talk about it during the button. These are state funds. I'm not county funds. Okay. Yeah. You want to wait? I don't mind. Correct. What do you say, Jason? No, I thought Matt he just wanted to put it all together in one place that's fine. I normally would like to but if it doesn't impact any impact also. Okay. But plus it's better approved by the we don't have any day over it. Right and we don't have anything noticed or another time to do this prior. So we would need to notice another meeting in vote because you can't do action budget hearing. We'll draw your withdrawal. You're always draw the withdrawal. All right, then we have a motion in a second. Any more discussion? Thank you for what you do, by the way. All in favor? All in favor? I host motion carries. Commissioner Gray, if you'd like to meet another time, I'm happy to answer any questions about our questions. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I'm 16. I'm purchasing. Gilbert. Thank you guys. Good morning. Good morning. We have on first item two change orders for you to consider. The first is with rebel contractors in Salott, this is a current creek road project and we're just adding the ARPA funding so that you could use your ARPA funds on these two contracts. So I'm going into, as that's applied to both right, one and two as I was talking about. Just one. Okay, we have a motion, we have a second all in favor. Post, motion carries and second is change order number six to the haggardy consulting agreement With the not to exceed a two million one hundred and eighty three thousand three seventy six. This is for debris monitoring When when we made the agreement with crowd of golf For the fourteen million correct crowded around or was just shot just shy of twelve million haggardy was the remaining of the fourteen million and that's what this is right here this amends our art existing contract with haggardy to allow for the debris monitoring that they're performing which they've been doing the correct that's why there's no funding source needed it It's already been approved a bit court. We just do the contract. Motion we have a second on favor posed motion carries all right B of motion second on favor posed motion carries see Mr This is the professional services agreement with trapped and spade neutering of seventy nine thousand dollars for animal services. Emotion to approve. Sir a second. This is already in the budget for the animal filter, right? Yes, sir. A second. Emotion to second. Hollen favor. Aye. Those motion carries. Thank you. Item D. This is another big one for us anyway. This permission to negotiate with the highest evaluated respondent. This is for our medical TPA services. Currently with Moon Chapman. It's been with Moon Chapman for a long time. We received six responses. We evaluated them all. The highest is United Healthcare Group. We'd like permission to negotiate with them and then bring a contract to court next, our next court. And I'll give you full details in the contract. I'll move. Second. Give a motion in a second. All in favor? I judge real quick. This is something that has been in the process for a very, very long time. Our employees have there, I say, suffered through Boone Chapman and their inability to answer questions and to provide this information. And not only to the participant level, but trying to get data out at the plan level is almost impossible. We don't get the data analytics that we need to be able to vow to be able to properly look at our plan and see what changes we need to make to try to make it better. If it's something really I've been pushing for for five or six years and it's taken a long time to get to this point. Probably you're released to Moon Shabber. Okay, good. Well, we have a motion to say it all in favor. Thank you all for all hard work. Thank you, good. Well, we have a motion in the second. All in favor? Thank you all for all hard work. Thank you, Commissioner. We have a motion of second is approved. I am too. Yes sir. This is another component of our program. This is for advocacy and transparency administration. These are for elective services and some optional services that the county offers. And the vendor that we'd like to negotiate with is EDH which stands for Employer Direct Health Care. Move. The motion is our second. Second. All in favor? All right. Those motion carries. Good. Thank you very much. Thank you. Carry attorney, mental health treatment facility. Anyone here? I move on AMB. I'll second. Oh, we have a motion on AMB. Is there a second? We have to do the second. All in favor. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. This time we're going to recess Montgomery County Commissioner's Court to convene public hearing. We would please. So do the partial replights of lots 23, 24, 25 block 7 walnut cove section 2 to be known as walnut cove section 2 partial replight number 1. The purpose of the proposed partial replights to reconfigure internal lot lines. This is ready for approval under agenda item 28, but does anybody here to speak about that? Consider the partial replight of lots 9 and 16 block 3, lot 11 block 4 of the Hyron Section 14 to be known as the Hyron Section 14 partial reply number 1. The purpose of the proposed partial reply is to change the side utility easements from 16 feet to 10 feet. The HLA has not been found and this item is ready for approval under item 20C. Consider the partial reply of a portion of the North County Country Drive. Reserve A, Lot 6 and Block 1, North Country Section 1. To be known as North Country Partial Reply number 1, the purpose of the proposed partial reply is to combine Reserve A and Lot 6, Block 1 and the adjacent portion of the North Country Drive into one lot and one block. This item is ready for approval under a gen item 20b, but is anybody here to speak about that? And last, consider the proposed assessments to be levied against property located in Primate Area, number one, of the Crockett Middest PID. This item is going to take action in January 1982, but this is the required assessment you need for the PED. Is anybody here to speak about it? All right, thank you. This week is being court. Appreciate four. Page 14 of 15. Item 19a1, consider discuss and take appropriate action regarding resolution in order in support legislation. Authorizing regulation of roadside businesses. So I move. Well, I appreciate that. Real quick, a back history on it. I've been working on this for a flash swar in as a commissioner. And what this does, it will, well, like like it says regulate roadside businesses so we are a land of law and Guys that come in and just pop tent on side of the road and state right away county right away not only Create hazardous road conditions, but you know they they so convert the health food regulations they They take away from people who actually invest into the communities in the storefronts You get puppy meals and people sit now in a hundred degree heat selling dogs or giving animals away which we've seen so this is This will be pretty broad and encompass that there are bills on the book, South of us, but there are population thresholds. So by revising this or creating a new legislative bill, it will make it to where it captures the population that we have in Montgomery County and ultimately reconciled that so Judges you've got emotions so I'll go ahead and make a second I mean we'll Re-qualify that because in your explanation of this goes beyond What I'm thinking in terms of what this ought to be or should be it's already been issued been discussed in the legislature a couple of times my issue is I'm concerned as you brought brought it up, I think rightly so. The issue of puppy mills and selling animals on the side of the road before I would make an approval of this for me, I would have to see legislation just because I've been there. I've seen it. I was not in favor of it in the past, which does not mean that I would be in favor against it this time, but I think if you're going to put a broad brush overall, any business on the side of the road before I could approve it, I will withdraw my motion and I would have to take a look at what the specifics of the legislation are from that perspective. Well, I would encourage you to read chapter 285, 284 and 283 of the Texas Transportation Code and check out the bill that they have for Harris County, the rules on the book there. And it gives clear instruction and it lowers the population threshold. Well, good. Well, that just opens up for me to make the motion to move on to myself on my own and hope. I'll second Matt or Commissioner and do you. When did this Harris County adopted? When did it go to effect? I wish I knew right off the top of my head, but I believe it was in 2000. It was in 2000. Hold on. It was 2007 when that was moved in. This is what he's in the population threshold. Yeah. Right Commissioner Gable, I mean, councilor Gable. Can you come up here real quick? I just want to ask if you have any experience from your Harris County days in dealing with this law and how it impacted what law enforcement did? And I appreciate being here to talk to you guys this morning. So here's county days, one of the things that we did from law enforcement side of things is we put a few personnel in place to handle the bandit signs to people setting up shops to selling specific items on side of the road. So it doesn't become a hindrance, it doesn't bring people in that you don't want on the side of the road. I think with your example, commission or puppy mills and things, that's important that we don't want people like that out there selling those types of things. I think it brings in people's own firewood and I don't know if there's a permitting process for those types of vendors that come in but it also tends to having people standing in middle of our you know medians looking for people to give them money and bringing in people that have criminal records things like that that we deal with on law enforcement side of things. I hope that went to something you're a valuable tool. Does it help? Would a bill being able to handle those things? Yes sir. It'd help a lot. All right well I'm fully supportive commissioner Gray. Thank you and thank you. This wouldn't be a bill. This is a resolution. What you have before you is a resolution to say, Montgomery County would like the opportunity to work with the state legislators to encompass or incorporate a bill which would address the safety concerns, the business concerns, the things that go along with roadside businesses. So Commissioner Gray said, we're having an issue with these roadside businesses, but we don't have the tools necessary at the state level to address these issues adequately. And this resolution says, but, come on, county would like those tools. I think that'd be a great tool. That is, yes. Okay. So that clarifies what we're talking about here, as opposed to a broad brush. We still have opportunity to look at it to decide what this is not a draft of any kind of legislation nor is it something that could be enforced that this simply is addressing a memorializing commissioner grace concerned that hey we want the same resources and tools that are surrounding counties have to address the issues that we see as they pop up in Montgomery County okay so we have a motion from the commission and gray we have a second from the commissioner no act There's really more discussion They quit selling firewood on the side of the road in Harris County How are you gonna? How are you gonna enforce all this? We're gonna revise our budget and ask for a personal personnel budget, national personnel. What did you say? We're going to revise our budget, national personnel. Let me address something. It seems broad and it seems challenging because Montgomery County, unlike a lot of other counties, is mostly unincorporated, which probably it presents more challenges and most people will ever be aware of until it's too late if we don't address them and these are some of the challenges that we're dealing with and I hope it helps help schooling it up but it's the the unincorporated piece of it so well they're doing this in the city limits right now right city of City of Conroe? Dude, what? The same thing we're wanting to do. Take these vendors off the street. I know in Willis they go outside of the city limits and set up on the side of the road. These are the help. These are vendors that come by here and that we inspect them and do the permitting and that sort of thing. That's a different thing. Well, real quick, what I want to say before you get up there, Jason, is we've got an environmental and a permits department. And if you peel back the curtain and I don't know if Scott's in here, we'll get you up here if we need to, but it's a pretty arduous process where the food trucks come up or different wagons that come up in the inspection. And this, it doesn't necessarily, it doesn't directly impact that, but what it does, it gives us some extra teeth where we don't have any teeth and you're able to at least nip this in the bud on the ones that are setting up and all this right away, setting up in busy areas, circumventing the storefronts and the health food and health inspection processes, where we can at least mitigate that to a degree. We already have statutes that says that these right-of-ways they can't already set up in those things. There is some discrepancy between what the statute says and what's enforceable by law. So to Commissioner Walker's point of seeing these individuals set up of the city. The city of the city is not enforceable by law. So to commissioner walkers point of seen these individuals set up outside the city limits of wills or outside of Conroe. It's exactly the two of the points one where you're seeing the unincorporated areas where it's not enforceable as it is enforceable in the city because these cities have city ordinances. The only city that doesn't have the other is a few cities that don't have the ability to have that level of ordinance because the law doesn't enable it and that's going to be your smaller than 5,000 population cities. Montgomery, Patton Village, they're not home rule cities. So Willis is a home rule city, Conno's a home rule city. They can make their own ordinance to regulate this. So who's gonna regulate this? So the state would be permissible bill as the commissioners proposing working with legislators to basically change the bracket on already existing legislation to romp in Montgomery County into that existing legislation that allows Harris County to regulate this area by county ordinance. So the county commissioners within have to come back and enforce an ordinance to enforce statute that state law now enables you to do. Because my concern was about the puppies and people selling dogs on the side of the road with well I'm a new to deal bringing extra dogs from outside the county and that's what the constable just said that then the law enforcement agencies of the county can then issue a citation to a biolator so it can enforce that way. Well I'm in full agreement because I hate it when they start selling all that stuff. And if you're in town and you've been paying a business and you're paying your taxes and all that stuff and they're selling it for cash. So there's two parts of the process. Part one would be getting added into the legislation to enable us to get to that point, which is Commissioner Gray for point right now then the court has to come back and pass an ordinance that then the specifically specifies what the law allows us to enforce what the court is willing to have enforced. I mean, then from there it's once you're not asking you're not willing to ask our state legislatures to create something new just to add us to the bracket it and modify it. I'm pretty careful what you guys do. I think it's pretty specific. I mean, to be specific, it's really just lower in the population threshold to where we're able to. And listen, I'm a small-track, small government guy to even talk about regulating more, but we have, I love this county, I love my precinct, and I took this lead to all your fears is it doesn't automatically become law once the legislation is passed and often it then puts it in the hands of the commissioners court to determine the ordinances. It's not a challenge to make. It's a matter of time. is it doesn't automatically become law once the legislation is passed and often, it then puts it in the hands of the commissioners court to determine the ordinances. It's not a challenge to may. It's a may, yes. Okay. So we have a motion to talk that way though. That is correct, yeah. But the specific chapters that he referenced in the Chase Code is a may, counties with these population brackets may enforce these things. Okay, we have a ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to ask for a second. I'm going to motion motion a second all in favor post motion carries County engineer So motion on 28b and C I'll move to a second second all in favor post Motion carries precs one and four. So this is a fun one. This is a considering discuss the port of legislative actions that would prohibit the desecration of the American flag in Montgomery County. So wake up every day, a patriotic American in Texan, just like hopefully everybody else in this room. We were at an event last week. I run into Commissioner Walker and we were listening. Actually went to see the judge listening to Congressman LaTrell and our Senator Brandon Craton. And we're going into election season and we just want to reiterate to Montgomery County with pull-on enforcement, or pull America, or pro-Texas, we'll pull jobs, and just the former reminder, you know, let's go out and do our civic duties as election season comes up, and we would no way want to impede on the First Amendment with how we handle the flag, but we would ask that you be respectful in our county when dealing with it. So there are certain ways you retire a flag, so we understand that. And burning it is not the way. I'm totally against burning those flags. I know there's a lot of issues, but it's a terrible, for everyone that was a veteran that fought for that flag and died for it. I think it's a terrible thing for these people to do trying to make a statement. And so me and Commissioner Gray, we talked about it, and I can ask anyone else all the other commissioners out here, they all feel the same way. We're just trying to make people aware and hope in Montgomery County we never see this happen. Especially if I'm around. I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. Okay, I made a motion. I don't want to see them burning in a protest. That's for sure. No, I'll take you out of anybody else. I mean, we have a motion. No, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I'm no, I Thank you all the less move forward. Executive session, the Quartle recess for executive session, for sure to one or more of the following provisions. The Texas Government Code to Whitt chapter 551 sub-chapter D, articles 551.071 551.072. Be patient, we shall return. We are upcoming Montgomery County Toll Art Authority. Come back from recess. Amy, if you will please. Yes, is there a motion to approve resolution in order to defend on items 22A, BNC, as we said on the agenda? We have a motion on the second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. I have motion to adjourn On table I pose motion carries commission rady got the floor