recording in progress. Okay, good evening. Members of the public, Commissioner City staff. Today, we are having our March meeting. Let's start with call to order and roll call item number one. It is 530. I'm calling the meaning or 530. Are you going to do real call everybody like me too? I can do real call. Okay. Okay. Okay. We are having our March meeting. So it's so I'm called to order a roll call. I don't know who won. you you you you you I'm sorry. I need to say that again. Commissioner Christopher cow. Present. Commissioner. I see a Patel. Present. Commissioner. We love. McConey. Present. Commissioner. Tonga Victoria. Present. Commissioner Tonga Victoria. Present. Commissioner Isabel Lopez Ismail. Present. Commissioner Mariana Semina. Present. Commissioner Rapnilo Chaudhary. Present. Alternate Commissioner Neil Ramaswamy. Present. Perfect. Okay, item number two two approval of the agenda. you I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to ask you to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to ask the committee to invite a motion. Motion motion. Sorry by who. revenue shop. And. Okay, and the motion's been seconded by commissioner by vice chair Patel. Commissioner Patel. Yes. I'm all in favor. Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I think we're, um, item number three approval of the minutes, though I don't think there are minutes attached. So I'm going to skip item number three. Is that correct? Yes. Correct. Moving forward to item number four. Public comments. Would any members of the public like to make a comment? If any of the attendees would like to make a comment, just raise your hand and we could promote you. I'm seeing none. Next is item five, special presentations. Through the chair. Yes. Can we go back to item number three? Is there a reason why the minutes are not part of the package? They will be brought to the next commission meeting. Okay. Okay. We aim to bring it at the following meeting, but due to some staffing issues, we were unable to bring it to this meeting. But yeah, we always aim to bring it to the following meeting, but due to unforeseen circumstances in this case, we didn't attach one, but next month we'll have the previous minutes as well as these minutes. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chef. Item 5.1 is the Corp. Yard informational presentation. The recommendation is to... There's no action item from this from our commission. It's we will receive a presentation on the City of East Pawl to Corp. Yard from the maintenance division. Yeah, we have Kevin Lewis here who is the public work supervisor and a public works inspector and just give me a second to pull up his presentation. All right, with that, I'll hand it over to Kevin. Good evening committee. Thank you. My name is Kevin Lewis. I'm the maintenance supervisor. I also am the city inspector. For the city of East Palo Alto. With that, the maintenance division, the maintenance division is committed to upholding the highest standards of excellence, integrity, stewardship. Our primary mission is to protect the public, health, safety, and welfare of the community by ensuring the reliable delivery of essential services. The division performs a wide range of critical functions, including regular maintenance and repairs of infrastructure, facilities, and equipment. This includes everything from road repair and signage maintenance to the upkeep of public buildings, parks, and other civic amenities. Our team is dedicated to minimizing service disrupts, addressing emergency maintenance needs, properly and proactively maintaining systems to prevent issues before they arise. Through responsible resources and management, and continuous improvement, the maintenance division strives to maintain a safe, efficient, and well-functioning environment for all of its residents. Some of the maintenance tasks include parks and maintenance, facilities, repairs and maintenance, storm drains, inspections, and cleaning, pump station operations, street median landscape programs, street repair maintenance, potholes, crack sealant, shoulder work, regulatory sign including signage including street sweeping signage and repair and installation. pedestrian over crossing bridge maintenance, street red curve painting programs, traffic striping, street trees, and when I say street trees, I mean the trees that the city currently owns and that we maintain throughout, courtyard materials, management and recycling programs, picking up illegal dumping. And this continues graffiti to graffiti abatement programs, sidewalk repair and maintenance, fleet maintenance and small control, equipment preventative maintenance programs, playground inspections and maintenance, skate park maintenance, underground utility markings, which commonly is referred to as USA's utility service alerts, encampment response, and cleanup. Sandbag stations, maintenance contracts, providing monthly safely training to the employees, and to staff, rather, and after our emergency on calls. Maintenance division equipment. equipment. We have several pieces of equipment and primary functions of these of these equipment that you see on your screen are service vehicles but these service vehicles are just ordinary service vehicles. These service vehicles they they have a variety of tools and and we're able to facilitate many, many, many issues within our facilities on these trucks. They also serve as traffic buffers for ongoing projects that we have within the city. They help protect our public works crewmen, as well as transport any and all equipment and materials to the project site. Next slide. This is one of our heavy duty vehicles used for street lighting and utilities that may be on the rooftop. They may be in high elevations. This is one of our only what we like to call refer to as a bucket truck. And it is very essential to the city. This is how all the banners along the university corridor and some of the main the the fair affairs. That's this is how the banners are hung from this vehicle from this very vehicle. It is a forward F 550. It's a very strong truck and the reason why I mentioned that is because it's it's lasts this quite a while and so it sees a variety of of duties. Next slide. This particular vehicle is called a VACON JETTER. And you may have seen these vehicles roaming around in various cities. Or is it kind of small, but its service is serves as the same purpose. It's a multi-role vehicle where it cleans storm drains, sewers, catch basins, it takes care of the pump station. It also, when I say it takes care of the pump station, the pump station holds a million gallons of stormwater. In order to keep that volume a present, the jetter will vac out any deposits and sludge and that sort of thing. And that's what helps keep the city from flooding. This vehicle that you see on your screen, the jetter with the snout and the blue reel in front of it is the heart of East Palo Alto. It is the heart of any city. If you're in Mountain View, whether you're in in Brisbane or you're in any any any city adjacent, you will see these trucks and that's what they do. They keep the city actually flowing, whether it's storm, water, or sewer. And so it has the the truck has three three engines and the upkeep is quite so that I have to have a contractor on standby with the same type of truck in case this one takes a while to have its repairs and repairs are usually about every two months. It has to go in for its fluids, its pumatic tools and whatnot. And just to elaborate just a little bit more on this vehicle, it has, it's capable of cutting asphalt with water. The PSI is a little over a thousand PSI. In some cases it can ramp up to 3,000 PSI. It can cut grass and that tool is called a hydro knife. And so so we can move sludge and we can move dirt's debris and all different sorts of material with this vehicle She does have a name we call our Gertrude And so Gertrude takes care of the city quite quite well. It never leaves the yard without two operators. The main operator who is the driver and then a helper. If it leaves the yard with one operator, it's because the second operator is already on site where it's destined to, but it always has to have two people because it's a multi-function and it takes more than one set of eyes per se. You might be wondering what that front snout is. The front snout is the vac. The vac has over 5,000 anywhere from 5,000 to 8,000 vacuums, meaning it can suck steel plates, it can suck anything. We use that to articulate to get into whether it's sewer cleanouts or storm drains or manholes, what have you. It is a very, very multi-roll vac and we have a small tank, so we often when we have the debris, if it sludge, if it's solids, then we take that to the yard and we dispose of it there, We dry it out and then it goes to a special landfill with the, and we have to have that show that manifest. And you may be wondering what the blue reel is. Well, the blue reel has about 500 feet of 2000 PSI, or I think it's 5000 PSI, excuse me, of a pressure line. And on the end of blue reel, it houses quite a bit of tools. The tools are which to scour pipes to bring back different items that you wouldn't normally be able to retain from clogs and what have you. But the blue reel will travel on a remote. It will go and do and reach everywhere that it needs to reach. And it also serves as a CCTV camera so we can see what it's bringing back when it goes in. And that's what I mean by this vehicle being a multi-purpose vehicle. It is the heart of any city much less or much more than just the heart of this city. It is city of East Palo Alto. So when that when that truck is you see this truck and about, it is going to do something, it is on its way to do something very special. The next truck beside it is a five yard dump. We have two of these trucks, these dump trucks. These are F-4-550s, and these are, we have a three yard dump and a five yard dump. And they transport our materials and from especially in the winter time They transport our sandbags what not to and from from sandbag stations and whatnot and if we need to build a wall Like you've seen. I'm sure along the University corridor with a San Francisco Edo Creek to keep that from overflowing These those bags. This is how those bags got there from these, from these, these dump trucks. So that we use these dump trucks in various roles of the city in terms of towing things, bringing things back illegal dumping. What have you there of that very vital to the city as well and multi and serve as a multipurpose. Next slide. The next slide, you will see our latest down John Deere to the left, all the way to the far left. That's our latest John Deere, and they all come with claws. We use these tractors in the yard to pick up the debris that we bring in from the fields, whether it's tree trimmings, branches, trees, illegal dumping, what not. Things that I would rather my employees, not my staff not touch, that's what these claws are for. We grab it and we're able to do things on a more safety level and dispose of it. The little guy in the middle, that's a bobcat. It's probably one of the oldest operating vehicles or essential equipment that we have in our yard. And it's been around. It moves different materials around in the yard as needed. It's small and we need it to be small to get in and out of tight places because the yard is only so big. So everything is stored strategically in the yard. And that's what that is used for. The tractor to the far right is another claw tractor, but all these tractors have different attachments. We can, you've heard the term backhoe, we can dig different types of trenches and whatnot, just by changing out the equipment on these tractors. And that is probably one of the older tractors to the far right. But in the same line as the tractor on the far on the far left. Next slide. Our famous forklift. Our forklift serves purpose as when we when we receive equipment or different types of material, they have to be offloaded. The forkl does just that. You've all seen it's a common type of tool. And it offloads as well as uploads. It will upload a pallet of sandbags onto the dump trucks as we take them out. It will take off materials and product off of trucks as they're delivered just like some of the other equipment. It's probably one of the oldest pieces of equipment we have, but it's in a shed and we maintain it quite well. The piece of equipment to your right is very peculiar looking that is what we call a hot seal tank. So when you're driving down the street and you see a street that's old and it has all these black squiggly lines and whatnot, that is a crack sealer. And so what this does is it puts down a a very, very, very hot, I think it's 1500 degrees Fahrenheit asphalt, liquid asphalt. And what that does is bind all of the alligator cracking in the street as well as keep it from coming up, as well as keeping this road base from underneath, which is called the sub base from appearing through like during the rains. It prolongs actually, it prolongs street repair until we could actually come out and do our resurfacing programs. And that's what we use it for. We operate this piece of equipment in the summertime, which makes it a little difficult because at 1500 degrees Fahrenheit, excuse me, in 95 anywhere from 80 to 95 degrees, weather, it's quite a handful, but it's something that every city has and it's something that every city must have in order to turn to repair its arterial streets. What have you? Next slide. To your far left, we have what is called a water buffalo on a trailer. The water buffalo contains different water and different detergents and we take this trailer. It's small. We can pull it up on the PLC. We can power wash anything anywhere at any time, whether it's signs, whether it's graffiti, whether it's just to to wash down the walkways, what have you, we also use it to water plants in different courtyards and facilities that we have that's hard to get to that ordinarily wouldn't get fed with with with water that sort of thing. And so we can tow that behind the truck and get to those different conditions. To your far right, we have our famous John Deere. This is one of our oldest tractors for a lawn. This tractor maintains every park that you've ever gone to today, to this date. It is one of our oldest tractors, but it's one of our oldest and reliable tractors. I will add maintaining the parks and manicuring the best of its ability. And I think that's about it. Thank you very much. I will take your questions. Do any commissioners have questions? Okay, I see Commissioner East Mill's hand raised first. Thank you, Kevin. It's great to know that we have someone with your expertise and passion maintaining our facilities in the city. You really got me interested in the Vakoon jetty, I think it's called. I'm having trouble imagining what sort of problems are addressed with it. Could you just describe a few issues that you could use to fix, use the jetty to fix? So when it rains, you have ground water and groundwater washes all different types of deposits into the storm. And that has build up over time. So my operator has taken this truck and he has actually divided this truck. Let's just say in four parts, meaning we've divided the city in four parts. So, four parts, meaning A, B, C, and D, we'll start with part A, beginning of the year, and from the rains, we'll go ahead and we'll vac, and we'll clean all of the storms and get all of that debris out. If we don't pull them out, we push them to a certain place. Well, what you don't know is we have a 72 inch storm drain. It's we call it the mother storm drain. That's where all of the storms, all of the storm run off, all of the water goes as a 72 inch and it goes out to the levy and it's eradicated by a gate valve vault. Well the jetter takes care of the gate valve vault too as well to make sure we don't have any. You wouldn't believe it, basketballs, soccer balls, what have you, cones, things that, you know, are some of the adolescents they just, they throw over. Well, we can go and get those things with that jetter. But the main thing for that jetter is to reem that pipe. It's kind of like calling a plumber or you call a rotor rooter. It's going to re-meat that pipe, clean it out, flush it, and make sure that what is called a C factor. I'm getting into another dimension. So stay with me. The C factor is the roughness and smoothness of a pipe. So that's what this jetter does is maintain the smoothness and clean the roughness to make sure that we have adequate flow and that the city doesn't flow. And And that's what meant by the city, that piece of equipment, particular piece of equipment being the very heart of the city. Without that piece of equipment operating, the city would be in much trouble, especially in the winter times. Now, as far as a hydro knife, these are just some of the tools that are on the truck that if we need to get to a leak, if we need, if something's broken, this truck will go out and let's just say that we're, you know, we have a high water table. So we dig four feet into the ground, the water wants to come up. It's almost like someone cut a fire hydrant on and we have to put a pump in the pump the water out so we can see what the issue is in the ground, correct? So when we do that, sometimes the materials that we come across are just they're already muddy, they cave in. Well, the vac will come in. We'll also, the hydro knife will cut around and make the rest of the dirt fall. And remember, we're talking 3,000 PSI plus. So it can it can cut around, it can cut a square in the street and and melt all the materials around the Pacific area. And then the snout comes in, the snout will articulate down into the hole and suck up all of that or vac up, excuse my expression, we'll vac all of that material into the tank, into its rear tank. And then we'll take that sludge, those materials, and we'll take them to the yard and dump them in the back the back We'll dry them out and then we have to have a manifest of where we take them to special landfield that type of thing So that's what a jetter does in general. It does much more than that And that's the reason why the upkeep on it up the upkeep of this vehicle is super super hard It is super high in in in terms of in terms of having to go to comb it, to find tooth and comb. And so that is one of the other reasons why I have a contractor who's on staff when we use Badger. And Badger is on call when our jetter is in the shop because it takes more than two weeks at minimum to have this vehicle gone through repaired, make sure all of the lines of hydraulics and this and that and the other are working. And so that's that's how vital this is that I actually have to have a backup just in case. It is and it is starting to age. It is an older jetter. But nonetheless, we stay on top of it because we know it means to the city without that when the rain comes when storms come, or when we have any type of issue, it could be in the summertime. Without that jetter, we're in deep trouble, or we're going to incur a cost just by having another contractor come in. Okay. Commissioner McConee. Yes. Through the chair. Thank you. Appreciate giving me this time. Thank you, Kevin for the presentation. I don't I didn't see the streets with Versailles. I'm assuming those are contracted out. I'm sorry. Say again. The our public worst manager where we would like to get a small sweeper so that we could sweep in between the times because the streets sweep on this day, on the last Thursday of the month and this day, and the other will sometimes our streets need before then, and when the leaves drop and the winter time, we also need to get those up because it creates another mess. And we were talking about the jetter pride of that. Sometimes the jetter has to come in and it has to suck up all the leaves even the ones in the storm drain so that the storm drains flow. So we're getting right back to that vehicle again. But no, sir, you did not see a city street sweeper. We used to own one to my to my knowledge that was before my time. But we haven't had one since I've been here and I've been here since 2012. And so we've had not we've not had a street sweeper since then, but we've been discussing to whether or not to get a smaller version of a street sweeper that our guys can handle. We don't need a special license to have to operate it just a regular class C driver's license that we can come out and take care of the streets in between some of the the scheduled streets for our contracted services. And that that segues into my next question was for all the for all the equipment what kind of just just at a high level what kind of licenses or certifications does your guys need and how often do they renew those? So my ones, my classification ones come in with regular drivers license class C's as long as they're clean driving records, but my my class two staff, those are the ones that have to have the class B license and class A license. A lot of times they come in with a class A and it's a win-win situation because it's quite expensive and the city doesn't have to pay. So I do look for those candidates. But I also look for candidates who have the ability to obtain a class B license or an A license. So the opportunity is broad. But what we need is class B license and that's ideal. Class A is over and beyond. I believe I had the highest, I hold the highest license of the city of a class A with tankers, doubles, triples, hazmat between here and Nevada, I believe. But I have another, I have other operators within our staff who have the same. And they may not have triples or doubles or whatnot, but they do have tankers, has Matt, whatnot, class A. And they can drive at 13 speed as well as an automatic anything that has the double tandem in the bag. But so to answer your question, it class B is the minimum. And they, what's the renewal, um, the DMV is super strict. And sometimes depending your age, it's very cumbersome. The you have to go and have a physical at least twice a year. They, they, when I excuse my expression, but they, they crawl up one and come out the other, like they make sure that you're fit. You have to be agile, you have to be able to climb in and out of a truck, as well as operate a truck. They wanna know if you're on heart medicine, they wanna know if you're on this antibiotic, they wanna know if everything, because you are operating a minimum of, you know, 20,000 pound missile if you will. It becomes a weapon when it's out of control. So needless to say, having a class B or class A is super, super serious business and maintaining it. And it's it's annual. Every year, depending on your age. I have to go twice a year, but I have some operators that go once every two years and they're a lot they're a lot younger than I am, but that's just the way the DMV has sought everything to be. And then I assume you run the maintenance of all this equipment. The man it I run I run the the crews and I run some of the maintenance vehicles. Um, the manager, the public works manager oversees our contracts, what not, and takes care of a lot of the other administrative duties. Um, but between the two of us, we work together and make some of the decisions, some of the trainings and things that we send our staff to go out to do. And sometimes we have trainings that come to our office for our guys. And they, it might take a day or whatnot, but it's usually safety related and hazmat materials, that type of thing. But yes, I oversee the field staff for the most part as well as my other duties. But as far as the vehicles, like the oil checks, the checks, the checks, the checks, the checks. So what we have, we have another contractor that comes in. And so we know when every vehicle is up for an oil change, tire rotation, whether we're checking for the air conditions for the for summer months, what not, or heating conditions. We have a regular schedule maintenance program and where our contractor comes in and we give them a license plate and he comes in and gets the keys and he takes the truck, and he brings it back. Repair it. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Great questions. I see a hand raised from Vice-Chirpatelle, but I know it's not coming from her computer. Does someone else have their hand raised? Oh, yeah, we're good. Okay. Does anyone else have any questions? I'm pretty quick one. The water buffalo. You said only one of those is that correct? Yes. Okay, and it's just used for water or do you have other fluids? Well, no, we put detergents through it. Okay. So the way that we do that is when we need to go and let's just say the POC, the public over crossing, when we want to scour that, and we put a detergent in the water buffalo, and we, we, we use a turgent to, to, to spray down and wash down graffiti or what have you, whatever we might, whatever we might find, when we go on water plants, what we do is we connect to a fire hydrant, we'll fill it up, we'll flush it out. And we can test water to make sure that it has no detergents in there. I can test water for chloro-residules, what not. So we flush those things out before we know what we're gonna go do with them. It will sit empty, sometimes it'll sit with a half a tank of fluid in there. Fluid I mean just water. And we'll add what we need in terms of what we're going to go do with it. But there's only one of those. And so we try to stay on top of that too. We operate on a very minimal scale in terms of other cities because we have 2.5 square miles of city, but at granite, everything goes on in the city that you can imagine, like every other city, we have to stay on top of it. But we don't have an abundance of equipment, we just have what we need. Okay, Kevin, thanks for your presentation. And for what you do, I remember we went out once like a year or two ago and got bike racks installed at Clyl Landing and I see people use that pretty often, which is great. It's awesome. I wanted to, so I was the one who, I was one of the people at least who had requested this presentation, so thank you for that. Could you also talk about what other items are at the maintenance yard, spi sites, the trucks, like for example, cones, signage. Yeah, absolutely. So of course, that's where all of our bearcage and cones, as you mentioned, come from. But we also have different types of trash cans and every time our lovely engineering division creates a project, we maintain it so there's also those types of equipment to maintain the projects that have been that that arrived in our city, such as we've just put in a brand new bus stations and whatnot so we might have a secondary I like to call it backup bus benches those types of things we house, We house different things that we might have secondary, I like to call it backup bus benches, those types of things. We house plants, we house different things that we might need depending on what part of the city it is. From K rails to bear cades to, we have lighting. There's other equipment within our yard that we use Just to help remote safety. So we house everything sand material rock material boulders landscape mulch We have it in the yard When it runs down then we send we send out and have it delivered it comes in we keep the the bins replenished for whatever we might need. You never know. Sandbags, we carry all the sandbags. They're already bagged and ready to go. And sometimes we put those out in pallets for people to come and get it. They're free. Just come get them. What not? The only problem with that is we have to maintain those, maintain the public because we have people who do not live in city of East of East Pollo Alto and so they'll come and get all the sandbags and we've had issues where we've had to go and buy more. But with that being said to answer your question, we'll store abundance of sandbags within the yard. So there's plenty of material in our yard to do different things from bags of cement to kitty litter for oil spills. What have you? All of our irrigation supplies, fittings, whatnot, that's all in the corp yard. And that's reason why we call it a corp yard. It's a corporation. So it's a corporation of all these different materials just to maintain the 2.5 square miles of city of East Palo Alto. The only thing that we do not have is our own fuel station. So bigger cities have their own fuel yards and whatnot. We have to go to, we set up accounts to our regular Chevron and that's where we fill our trucks up. That including diesel. And one question on behalf of commissioners, a lot of commissioners are often in the field. I know just this week a couple of commissioners had requests, had emailed the engineering inbox about lighting, lights out on such. What is the most effective way for commissioners to report any maintenance issues like broken lines, et cetera? Oh, that's a good question. A lot of times they call into the office or admin office, the engineering division, and when that, when it's noted, and we go out, we figure out what light they're talking about. Because sometimes they'll say, well, the light on the corner of so and so and so, but there might be four lights out there. So we go out. And if we You can't figure out what light they're talking about because sometimes they'll say well the light on the corner of so on so on so on so but there might be four lights out there so we go out and if we can't figure out which light it is we'll wait until the evening time usually I stay behind and whichever one doesn't come on I'll see what that is and then I'll note the LEDs because when you look up at a street light there's a number there might be a number 35 or 46 or or whatnot. That's the number of LEDs that's shining down, projecting. And so the best way to answer your question, the best way to report that is just to call our office. And we do have an after-hour callout for that. Now, when that happens, if my public works staff not available, we do have an on-call staff outside agency. It's called CalWest. They take care of a lot of our lighting issues. If not, at the same, at the moment you call the very next day. But we recommend if things aren't emergencies, they typically get sent to the engineering inbox. And if it's maintenance related, we route it to, like for example, Cal West in our maintenance team to create a service order. Yeah. And you mentioned you ask me things that other than just equipment, that's another thing that we have stored in our yard. We have light poles and LEDs and whatnot. If the contractor that we call out doesn't have a lot of times a contractor will come in our yard and get it. Just have it installed. So our yard is a multi purpose. Do you any other commissioners have any questions? Yes, sorry, just a quick one as you're talking it, you know, some of the things that we've also been requesting as to do with traffic like striping and reflective. Is that something that your group would be equipped to address or? I'm hoping we address it, but I'm hoping we can address it personally in the future. Meaning we have our, we will have our own equipment and tools to go out and do that. Right now we can paint a stripe, but we can't put thermal plastic. A lot of times what you're driving over is thermal plastic, so it gets mutilated over time. Heavy vehicles, heavy trucks that kind of break it up, and so let's missing a piece here and missing a piece there. So we contract that service out. service out.ping, we contract out and we come to Chris striping. They come out. We have, we have, we have, I want to say, money is available that for certain areas, we can come out and have things restriped. I will say striping does get approved by engineering first. So, engineering team would recommend or approve something something and then if it's something that maintenance could do we coordinate with maintenance and their contractor. But typically striping gets done as part of the annual street resurfacing project. As Kevin mentioned, we've been trying to get an on call or more on call budget for our contractor so then we could do that throughout the year and just not just when we have our annual street resurfacing project. Yeah, but I'm hoping in the near future we might get some thermal plastic equipment that we can put our own thermal plastic down. What we're going to follow up on that, is that includes... Mike, I think it's speaking to the Mike, so the public in here. Does that include returning something back to its original? Like if you had a stripe and it's over time, it's worn off, that would have to go do engineering to go back and just restripe that line or. I mean, well, in the past, this new contractor on board this contract is pretty new in the past We didn't have an on call contractor that did thermo now we do So in the past what we've done is that maintenance work or that would have gotten done as part of the annual street reservicing project But now that we have this contract if it's something Like that just needs to refresh we could potentially have the on this contract, if it's something like that just needs a refresh, we could potentially have the all-encore contract or do it. Okay, thank you for the presentation, Kevin. Is that all you guys have? Let's just get warmed up. Guys, all they're doing. Come on man. Okay. Well I appreciate you guys. Thank you very much for listening to my spill. I really appreciate it and more than happy to give you any information that you might want. Yeah, this is great. I can say that at least on my almost three years on the commission. I think this is our first presentation from the maintenance part of public works. it works. So, and we have new commissioners and a full commission now, so it's creative. the first presentation from the maintenance part of public works. So, and we have new commissioners and a full commission now. So it's great everyone can get the information. Thank you very much. Okay, so since there's no recommendations besides receiving the presentation, next is item number six on Stafford Commission or reports. Sure. Just real quick, do we need to or maybe staff, do we need to record that one of our commissioners left? Just for the record? No. Okay. Yeah, we typically don't do that. Can we take that seat up? Can we do a? Yeah, yeah, if she. They. Hey, space out. Okay. Yeah, if she left her first. I thought she had just stepped out. Um, she, yeah, that's what I'm saying. She officially. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. Then yeah, if someone wants to move over. Yeah. Oh, okay. Got it. Can, can someone log back into the zoom? I logged out for this computer. Yeah, Neil. Neil, if you'd like here, welcome to join us over here, but it's optional. and just to clarify, does Commissioner Ramaswami now have voting? Yeah, now because we Since he's the alternate and yeah, okay, so yeah, so the commission will be showing me you'll have full like voting shares. Okay, next is I have number six on staffing, commission or reports. And just a reminder, this is, this isn't entirely optional. I noticed when I listened in on last months, meeting when I missed, commissioners thought it was required and it's not. It's definitely encouraged if you have something to share just for our information sharing. So now that would be the time. Chair, I have an oral report to give. I'll go first. Okay. So as mentioned in last month's meeting, I am vice-cocher, sorry, of City VPA's Safe Routs to School Project. And this morning at 730, we did a preliminary walk audit at CCRMS, 2450 R be our avenue. And so it was our Safe Routes to School Committee, and then I invited a couple of other stakeholders, including the Safe Streets Commission of City of Mental Park, the Safe Routes to School Task Force of the City of Mental Park, then our Public Works Commissioner Chair Kyle also joined us and So our Safarots to School walk on it really focused on two priority issues which was the single entrance corridor going into CCR mess and then Bay Road that traffic in the morning. So we were able to observe both of those areas. And so I'm hoping that we will be able to select a priority for the project. And I will have more on that hopefully next month. But that's all. Thank you. Next is Commissioner Ismail. Hello, Commission. So when I joined this commission a couple months ago, I'm just naturally always curious about budgets and you know there's so many projects that the city says they want to complete. There's this document called the 10-year capital improvement program. And in that document, there are hundreds of millions of dollars worth of projects. So naturally, I'm curious like, how is it that we're going to get to all of these? At the same time, I've listened in on some City Council meetings and they say we have millions in reserve. So these are sort of the questions that have kind of motivated my research into this area. What I've done is just read some documents that the city has posted online and then I was also able to set up a meeting with the City Finance Department. read some documents that the city has posted online and then I was also able to set up a meeting with the city finance director, Tomo and commissioners, Sumina and Kau were able to join me for that. So I'm just going to give you a super quick rundown of what I have kind of put together through all of this. Every year, the public work structure works with the finance director to create a capital projects funds budget. This year, it's about $18 million. So at the beginning of the fiscal year, they've already mapped out what major projects they wanna take on and how they're gonna pay for those projects. This budget is primarily funded by grants by development impact fees and by measures that the county and the city has passed. Some of these measures are measure A, measure M and measure W. And this year only about $1 million was funded through the general fund. Now the general fund is kind of like money that the city can spend on anything. They budget how much of the general fund they're gonna spend each year. And primarily it's funded through property tax, sales tax, transient occupancy tax. But the city's careful about how they use that money because a lot of the funds that the city has have to be sent on certain things. And I wanted to note one thing I thought was interesting and it may be common sense is that in the capital improvements project plan, it says that the priorities are guided by the city's obligation to protect its residents and their properties. So some of the funds that the city can spend have to be our Heldon funds, which are earmarked to be spent on specific purposes. So one such fund is the Lighting District Special Revenue Fund. And in the past two years, that fund has allocated 150,000 to the Clark University, the Clark Overpass, the Overpass from Clark Avenue, across 101 to Paloo Alto to add more lighting there. And 570, 570,000 is allocated to a general street light grade, light upgrade project in East Palo Alto. So I've been, you know, I was really happy to learn that because I think that the city is kind of dark in general. It was, I read that when the city first installed lighting, it was, it was commasurate with a rural lighting standard. So the city is not rural anymore. So it's great to know that, you know, we're trying to bring things up to date with kind of like the high density of population that we have now. And then something that might be relevant as we look towards the RBD and the development of like our new downtown, our development impact fees and these are charged to developers so that they can help kind of fund the facilities and the infrastructure that the city needs to put in to support the buildings that the developers build. And we really don't have that much in those funds right now. I recorded 500,000 for parks and trails, 500,000 for transportation, and almost a million for public facilities. But then again, development hasn't started yet. So I assume those will increase. And finally, I wanted to note on the city's general fund reserves. So I think the city has about 43 million in unassigned reserves, meaning that money could be used for anything. 30, every year we want to keep 30% of the city's general funds budget in reserve. So our general fund budget for the city this year is around 36 million so 30% of that is around 10 million. That means that our true reserves money that could be allocated towards anything is about 32 million. And one thing I did want to note that came out of our conversation with the the director and it's something that's noted in the city's annual comprehensive financial report is that even though we do have this, these kind of, you know, 30 million seems like a lot of money. But the city could be facing a structural deficit in the next 10 years or so. And the basic reason for that is that our property values are not rising fast enough to finance all the city's needs. And part of the issue is that we do have kind of a lot of undeveloped land in the city. So when the land is not developed, we're losing out on both the property taxes that can be gained from them building structures on that land and the revenues from sale taxes for businesses. So, you know, the city says they want to be conservative with that reserve and I think that is prudent. But it's just something to be aware of as we think about the future and like I mentioned, the hundreds of millions of dollars of projects that the city wants to do. So yeah, any questions? I just have a clear friend question for, but to thank you so much, Commissioner, for that. But to last month, you gave a presentation on some of the projects that are either in progress or complete. In her report, she mentioned a street lighting project. Is that one of the same of the project you mentioned? The 70-week time. Yeah, so we have in the 2021 street light project that is still technically active. That includes the scope of that was installing about 75 mast arms and some fixture upgrades. We are planning to put out an RFP to bring on a contractor to do a citywide assessment and then do citywide lighting improvements and then we're going to be adding that will be a different a separate I mean it's all under street light but it'll be an additional about like one million dollars for street light improvements. Great thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Miss. I saw that. I'll first go to commissioner. Chaudry. And then we'll go to commission. I'm going after. So I just had a brief update to share with the commission your. On February 21st, City Year hosted the annual Spring and two service event. And at this event, they worked with the community members to build 15 little libraries put up in the community. One representative from City Year, a brand of reached out to me and said that he would like to donate to fully furnished little libraries to the city of East Paul Alto. Currently, we are working with more ease to decide where the best locations will be the places libraries and we're expecting to have them installed by next month. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I just wanted to thank the commissioners for your report. Very informative and there's a lot to think about and how we can improve the city. I wanted to go back to Commissioner Ishmael's report and that makes me think, okay, with all these reserves and maybe for just us in the room, if anyone knows or not, then this something that we can follow up on. But how do we, you know, I've continued to hear that there's these reserves, but how do we, you know, work with the city to kind of, you know, kind of request of them to let's put this money into good use. And we see that, you know, in the future, if we don't, we don't invest back into the city, it could pose as a greater problem. So thank you. So I heard a question. I do see that public work specter. Hunter job is online, so I'm wondering if you might have any comments or any staff. Good evening everybody, it's Humza, public work director. Thanks for the question. So, so from what I hear is the question was how do we use some of the reserves that the city currently has towards this large capital improvement plan that the city has. So one way we could do this is and I think those mentioned mentioned a little while ago before that the city team does meet annually to go through its capital improvement plan update. We meet with the city's finance director. We meet with our commission, our body, public works and transportation commission, and we also go to city council for the adoption of the plan so the plan basically we have a 10 year long long range plan but then there's also a biannual update. And our next update is actually coming up I believe it's coming up in 2026 and so we usually start the process about six months before in which we provide the list of the priorities for the upcoming year and that gives the commission the the chance to actually discuss projects add new projects into the plan and also So discuss ways to budget these projects. So that's something that we will probably do sometime in the fall and that's that will be the time where I guess everybody has a chance to review projects and also decide how we want to budget for those projects. I hope that helps answers the question. It does. Thank you, Hamza. You're welcome. Thank you for that. I just wanted to add my, I guess, experience on from an organizing standpoint. So last election, measure JJ was on the ballot. And so measure JJ is a specific allotted amount of money that comes out of measure TOT, which is, Sorry, um, the TOT, which is, sorry, the TOT, yeah, the TOT, the transient occupancy tax, which is reserved for whatever the city or the community would see fit. And so the measure, J.J. is really around renters protection rights. And so in working with the committee, there was a process in which we were able to get that on the ballot. And I can see some of the alignment here if we did want to push for some recommendations to go forward to the city. And the next phase would have to be community input and then that process there and after to get that on the ballot eventually but just speaking from the grassroots perspective that was the work that we had to do in order to get that past last election. On my other questions, if not, I'll make a normal report. I wanted to follow up on a topic that was discussed in my absence last month, which was about the status of the traffic signal lighting in the city of Powell, alto, not EPA on East Bay Shore and lower lane near the Paul Topos office. Summary is that our public work staff was successful in communicating to Paul Topo public work staff to fix the traffic signal light. The problem was that the light is typically, it's a T intersection and a lot of traffic comes during PM rush hour, downpulgous, and most of that traffic is actually East Paluto residents. In fact, 80% of it is according to the 2020 Mobility Study. And so any delay or inefficiencies while this light is located in Paluto would significantly impact East Palutoo Alto residents to quantify we have about 700 Peak hour trips during the rush hour on Pogas alone and that it doesn't include East Bay Shore So even a couple of minutes Compounds to at least a thousand trips on Pogas in East Bay Shore During the peak hour not including all of the other hours besides the peak hour. So the problem was that the light was not acting smart, like it was designed to. There's actually a camera, a traffic camera that points towards Loreland, towards a post office in the Silicon Valley International School. And typically if there are no cars there, then the light should stop being green for them and flush out the queue of cars that goes all the way through Barca Dero. This was not the case as evidenced by a blog post I published and drone footage, which showed intervals of 17 seconds where zero cars were moving and everyone's backed up up to Barca Dero and into Paul Aldo. So My fiance drives this throughout every day, so I experienced it, and it used to take her about 15 minutes from embark a darren to Pogas back home. And actually after this got fixed in February, it seems to have dropped to about 12 minutes. I don't have a pure way of quantifying this. But if it's true that there's a three minute savings, we're talking during peak hour alone, 3,000 minutes saved, times 365 days a year, or just even the 300 weekdays, we're talking like 3,000 times 300, like, was that 900? I can't do the math right now, but we're talking a lot of a lot of time saved for East Pawl to residents. And the solution was simply to clean the traffic camera which had gotten dirty and could not detect if there were a car's presence or not. So I of course was very unhappy to hear this because this was out of our control and impacting East Paltar residents significantly not the city that was managing it. I definitely commend Vice Chair Patel for surfacing this to me when we had a one-on-one. I used to think that this was a problem at Pogas and East Bay Shore, which there is another problem, but it's different and not the bottleneck. So I've heard from a lot of residents in the Facebook groups that people wanted to look into university and down a home or I haven't studied that one yet by drone and I see that autopolic works has initiated with these autopolic works to study more traffic coordination as well like signal coordination. So we'll see how those go. Yeah, so I just want to give an update there. I think it's a big win for a community. It was actually fixed a month ago. And who knows how many more of these types of problems there might be. So what's the bottleneck intersection? This is a e-space shore in Lora Lane, which is on the southeast corner of East Palo Alto on this side of the highway. It's right across from the San Francisco to Cree, so that's because that's a border, this is actually in the city of Palo Alto. Okay. I gotta look at Google Maps. Yes. Yes, okay, that's what I was thinking. So have you, so we've seen evidence that the traffic cameras being dirty is what resulted in like some delay? Is there a way to like take an action with maintenance to roll that out for like the whole city like some inspection program or we can then start to address this proactively? I mean, I don't know of any program that the city currently has where we proactively go around and inspect the cameras. I could double check with our contract with Cal West because I know there are certain routine maintenance items related traffic signals that they do do. So actually let me double check on what's considered routine maintenance in their scope and I can report back on them. Cool. Yeah. I think it's worth looking into if we've idea to this route cause positively. And also by the way, I need a credit Michelle hunt from Exagon or city's Transportation traffic consultants because prior to figuring out how to contact I had reached out to her to get her professional opinion based on the drone footage I had taken and she after looking at the drone footage, I think this is there's a term she used but I forgot the term but it describes what happens when smart signals and stuff don't work and the signal default back to like standard behavior that doesn't account for traffic on the road. So she was helpful in that way. Also, actually just confirming that Cal West does do monthly maintenance to signals. So that is part of their scope. I was just curious whether like that camera was part of it or like if that, like what would cause this one to not be caught by that cleaning. Or if we have to increase the frequency of it, I don't know. That camera falls on the autopsyde and on our side go ahead and go ahead and note that at yesterday's city council meeting, the first of two votes took place to pass it. There were a number of edits that they made. One edit, which was very important, was that the city will now be the party that kind of implements different zones. And before one of the options in the ordinance was that residents were going to have to kind of go door to door and get signatures and opt into the program. So I think that was a very positive outcome city council. And yeah, that's, that's all I wanted to say. Okay, thank you. I'm gonna move on to the next item, unless anyone has any other thoughts. Okay. Okay, item seven, point one, bus parking loading zone request at Los Robles and Castanio Elementary. What what staff was looking for is a recommendation to city council for the establishment of a bus loading zone at following locations. I'll let staff take over from here. Thank you chair. Assistant engineer Irene Chu will be presenting this item. Good evening. My name is Irene Chu and I'll be presenting the item bus loading zone request. The presentation overview will be the background analysis and the staff recommendation. So background we received a request from the Ravenswood City School District. For two bus loading zones at two locations which is the Rosalbus McNair and the Castagna Elementary School. Analysis or the Los Robles McNair St did field investigations and observed the drop-offs. So staff during the invest field investigation noticed that buses are using this area for a drop-off and pick up but also cars are all dropping off kids at this location as well. So the zone is used by multiple school. There's no signage, so it cannot be enforced. There's already an existing red curb along the frontage of the Poulges Avenue. So no parking would be removed. The second location for the analysis at the Castano Elementary, the initial request was to place the bus stop in front of 26814 Hem Street, which is a resident. staff recommended an alternative location which is at 2705 Fordham Street which is just a block away north. The strap of zone is also used by multiple schools. So the recommendation to the City Council is the establishment of two bus loading zones starting 50 feet southerly at the starting point, 336 feet from the central line of Mertel Street on Poulgis Avenue. And the second one is starting 50 feet north early at 47 feet from central line of Purdue Avenue on Fordham Street at the hours of 730 to 8 8.30 am and 2.30 to 3.30 pm on school days Monday to Friday. And you could see here from the diagram where it's recommended to be installed. Thank you. Any questions? I just had a quick question. I saw that the staff had made a recommendation for a different location. Has that already been shared with Ravenswood and do we get their input? So, I do have, when I spoke with the resident at the at the initial location, that it does block, it does block their driveway. So then we recommended the other location.. Also we have been in communication with the school and forwarded them the staff report in advance so they could review what staff is recommending and I know Irene has been communicating with the school as well. Thank you. Yeah, earth chair. We saw I have been reaching out to. Irene and working with staff and working with the city school district for this particular item. And what there's there's definitely. There's definitely an underlying route problem here. not with the analysis, but just how we are relationship with the city between the city and the district that won't be resolved here in this meeting. So with that aside, I think just to get, you know, in the spirit of progress, to get an action the, this item. What I would like to, I guess the way I'm gonna, the vote on this is for the first item that's being proposed at the Pogas or the Robeless location is that we, is that I would personally approve of what is being requested, but the sign would be different from what is in what was specifically given to us by the district. They wanted to say certain, say, say, I believe it is only for between certain times, but I think we just got to give a little bit more clarity and keeping it simple, no bus loading or no parking because of bus loading. Something to that effect, I think will be more successful. And then for number two, for the Castanio, I think the location that is being proposed will be in conflict with the daylining law. And then, so that one I cannot accept. And so that's, I think that's how I'm going to be voting on it. So thank you. I just have a clarifying question. So my family house is right across the street from the potential public avenue. So has there been any community outreach or input from the nearby residents that live in on the streets or even nearby those schools? Not for the location. I will say notices did go out to a certain distance around the Fordham location. I believe the reason we didn't send notices out around Paul this is because we're not removing any parking. So it's already a red curb zone and no one really parks there even though there's no signage and PD can't enforce it. But yeah for that location it's more it's not like we're impacting the public. It's just installing signage and just to kind of clarify, the school already uses these locations as drop off points. They're requesting the city to install signage so that it can be enforced by PD. So that's kind of the purpose of why they came to the city and why we're bringing it forth. And for the location on Fordum, so that actually isn't an intersection, that's a driveway. So I think the daylighting law, the restriction would be technically at the intersection of Fordum and Purdue. So I don't think it would impact that corner. I don't believe it impacts that corner. Yeah. So are you saying for two that the new proposed location at 2705 is not the intersection? Yeah, the top image. So that's because we're reviewing it. So where it's red here. Yeah, the top image. So that's actually a driveway. The intersection is for their south. There is a stop bar right there. So yeah, it's hard to see from this image because we're just we see this red line but there is a stop bar. Yeah yeah there's a stop bar but I'm just saying this is a three-way intersection and technically the intersection is from what is that per two? Yeah that was part of yeah my it was like, okay, you have a stop bar there. You have potential for someone to cross across the street once it's parked. So that was my analysis of that. But yeah, I mean, if other commissioners have. Yeah, I want to give some higher level. Context as well. I had actually last month, I attended a Ravenswood City School District Board meeting and had a chance to talk to their assistant superintendent of finance operations will eager. And I'd ask this business before, because since it was scheduled for last month originally, and what I learned was that the school district, well, a couple points, one is the school district had put in their quest just to add signs to existing stops, which I did want to clarify since in the presentation, it seems to say more that they're requesting bus loading zone sounds like they're asking for a news zone. Well, it would the city would need to establish a zone because it's not established for a city resolution. So that's why it's framed that way in the recommendation. Okay. Because just because it's used as a bus loading zone, I mean, you could, anything can be used as a bus loading zone, but for it to be actually established, we would need an authorizing resolution and then we could, you know, put signage and then it'll be an official bus loading zone. Okay. And like a loading zone, like we're at like a epicenter that was recently installed. And then the second thing I was told is that the school district informed myself and Commissioner McConey that the California Highway Patrol supposedly sets the bus stops for school districts and that the original locations, not the ones recommended here, but just that those were like the ones that were set. And we were never, we couldn't figure out if, just wanna make sure this is true. And it may sound like city might not have jurisdiction. So the school would like to be enforced and for it to be enforced, the city needs to put signage for our police department to enforce. We did request the documentation that showed how CHD designated those zones in the exact location of those zones, but we never received it from the school. So we did request that. So then we could also understand the exact location that they were referring to, but we never received that. Third thing is, in the presentation, I saw that the, so talking about the bottom right photo here on Pogas, the presentation stated that currently, it's not enforceable. My understanding is the left side of Pogas right now is all red curb. Are we saying that painting red is not enforceable in this case? Not according to the city's municode. So that's why we all now when we recommend no parking zones, we have to put signage and then sometimes we put red curb. But the way that the city's municode is written, PD can't actually go and enforce red curb. It's not like other cities. I know other cities like Severing Cisco, it's in their municode that if something's painted red, their police department can go and cite. In the city of East Paul also, we can't do that. That's why, you know, like when, I don't know if any of you all remember when we brought, um, I think it was like Blue J Corp and and there was some visibility issues. We don't just red curve, we recommend red curve rain plus signage because when they're signage PD can enforce that. So technically no, it's not enforceable. People don't, people don't typically park there when, park when they see your Red Curb. But if they did, PD wouldn't be able to enforce unless they're signage. Okay. two more things as well. So on the topic of the signage, I saw that, so in the municipal code, I saw that there's an item about like a bus ordinance for bus stops. And I wanted to see if that applies here. I'm trying to find in my emails right now. Please give me a second. Okay, I'll come back to down in a sec. And then, let me go to other commissioners first for any other comments. So chair, are we voting on this to recommend to the city? Is that correct? Yes. Yeah, we would be voting on this and in the case that we there were certain things we did not like we could make a motion to amend. Yeah, you can modify the recommendation. But this is just staff's recommendation. Should we split or and vote for one proposed and then in other ones? So we're not going to combine them together. You could do that. Okay. So what was anywhere we'll separate the two? Okay. Why don't we start with? Okay. Well, then in that case, why don't we talk about the item number one here, which is the... Well, actually, I think the photos are reversed here. Item number one and the screen is actually the bottom right photo for those row realbuses. Is that correct? So, um, yeah, does it? Does anyone have any more clarifying questions on this topic? As well before we make any motions? I guess I did wanna add about the AB, the daylighting law. So I think the regulation states that you cannot park within 20 feet of any crosswalk with a marker unmarked. Because it's skewed, if you take 20 the starting location of the loading zone would actually be 30 feet from the crosswalk. I mean, that's. Buses are about 50. I mean, I can share my screen to show what I'm explaining. Let me share my screen really quickly because I haven't measured on Google Maps and my V's here to explain. Yeah, yes, please. So the bus loading zone that we are recommending begins at this point out and if you could see my cursor and it would be 50 feet from I believe it's like around here. AB, keep forgetting number 413 which is the day lighting law prohibits parking within 20 feet of the crosswalk. It's a little weird because this intersection is skewed. But like for example, technically this location that they were proposed or they requested wouldn't be, well actually it's in the opposite direction, but like let's say, Well I'd like to clarify, I don't think that was the original location. My understanding is the original one was, or like when I read through the Ravenswood City School District bus timetable, I think they listed 26, 73 for them as the current stop, which two houses down. Further. Oh yeah, but that's still not enough space. I can go to Street View. It would block a driveway. Yeah, and I see how that was the the initial reasoning for wanting them wanting to like establish a bus loading zone right and Neighbors weren't happy because they were getting blocked. Yeah, they were getting blocked in But to the daylighting hall, you said marked or unmarked. So when you were showing the Google Maps that crosswalk that's right in front of the unmarked crosswalk that's right in front of the stop bar should be the point of reference, right? Not the not the actual mark crosswalk, which is across from the entrance to the the school. Um, that's not how I would necessarily see it. I would think that it's a little, it's really confusing because the driveway makes it seem like this is a four way stop. What do people to bring the map back up again? Oh, yeah. And I think we got to take into account how pedestrians will behave. They will cross at that stop bar. Do we can't assume that they'll walk to the, across the street to the marked crosswalk to Cross Street. Yeah, I like to add some more information. So Irene and I were both on the School Travel Fellowship last year where we volunteered with the County of Education. We partnered with the Castanio School, which is this site here. We did a walk audit, and one of the results of that walk audit was, well, parents felt very unsafe, a number of intersections. That's why we focus on Fort Abin Notre Dame. But even at this intersection, we often observed that, what cars would often blow through that stop sign on the bottom, but also students who walked, they were concerned from parents crossing the kind of middle of the screen near the top, going from north to south, like going from where the proposed bus stop is that's that's recommending to the southwest corner of that intersection. We often observe students walking there and a lot of parents wouldn't really stop coming out of the school. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that a bus being, one of the concerns I have is that the bus being stopped where the proposed location is could potentially exacerbate some visibility issues for Well, like cars are supposed to stop behind the buses So if they do then I think we're good, but a lot of times I've observed at the other forum location that they don't. And if they go around, it's possible they may not see the students crossing the intersection east to west. Yeah, I mean, part of that would be a driver behavior enforcement issue. Well, we've done some other schools because a few years ago, this had come up where people weren't stopping and I reached out to PD and requested that if they had like the capacity, they would send a patrol officer out to just like drive by during school drop-offs just so people actually, you know, comply or follow like stop when a bus is actually stopped. So that's something that we could do. I will say that there are proposed improvements at this corner. It's like, the proposed work is like a ball bow and I believe some green infrastructure over here. Yeah, so that was part of the reason why we wanted to avoid this corner as well. Because there's proposed improvements. Okay. Yeah. Actually, I forgot about that. So that's actually really a point because that was what I was going to suggest instead. So if we were to move forward with the staff's recommended location, would we, so would we be painting that entire curb red and also putting up signage and what type of signage would it be? The signage would be what's listed in the report, which we would put a bus loading zone sign with the hours that are listed, which is 7.30 to 8.30 a.m. and 2.30 to 3.30 Monday through Friday. And sometimes we do supplement signage with striping, I don't know, yeah, like red curb, but the main thing is actually the signage because that means police department couldn't enforce that. Okay, thanks for answering. I like to invite a motion then on this topic. I'd like to motion that we recommend to the City Council this this establishment of a bus loading zone at starting 50 feet southerly at the starting 3.336 feet. Wait, sorry, give me a second. I think we're... starting 50 feet southerly at the starting point 336 feet. Wait, sorry, give me a second. I think we're actually talking about item number two here. I mixed this up here. Oh, okay. Yeah, if you can. Okay. If you can say that one again. Well, I'm going to, I'm not going to prove that one. So always for someone else to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion to all this staff recommendation to establish a bus loading zone starting at 50 feet north early at 47 feet from center line of Purdue Avenue on. Oh, that's not the one we're talking about. Oh, on Fortin Street. at 50 feet north early at 47 feet from center line of Purdue Avenue on oh That's not the one we're talking about oh on foreign street I said get Okay, we'll do a roll call on this one. I'll go left to right. So start with the commissioner McConey. No Commissioner Ismail. Yes Commissioner Chaudhary. Yes. Myself. Yes. No. And sorry I forgot to recall. That was Commissioner Victoria. No. Yes. And that was yes from commission or sorry for getting the last names. Yes. From some commission of Shimino. Chair, we're calling you. Commissioner Vishwamy. Did we, did we, uh, Oh, yes. Sorry about that. Commission of Vishwamy. I, I, I didn't see you up blocked by this. I just have to. Just for that. Stay. Okay, did staff get make a note of those? If so, we're going to... Sorry, this is reverse order because the images were swapped on the screen. So now we're going to address item number one separately. The motion passed or no? Yes, the motion did pass with... Yeah, it passed. Okay, next we're going to separately consider the staff's recommendation number one. And I actually had some more thoughts here that I'd like to bring up, but before I do, I want to see if anyone else had any comments on this particular point. Okay, Tool, what do you be able to bring up the map again, this time focusing on. Do you want to see Google Maps or do you want to see the recommended? Google Maps because a recommended one doesn't show the full picture. Okay, yeah, give me one second. And can you go back to the the review. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire. I'm going to information I've learned when chatting with the Ravenswood City School District, along with Commissioner McConey. So currently, our understanding is that the Ravenswood City School District give me a second. That they yes, that they used the area to the north of that intersection block I think where staff is recommending. I did also want to bring to the commissions attention that this entire section on Paul goes on the left side kind of between that crosswalk mid block kind of right in the middle of the screen down to a corner. That's actually all painted red currently. And what we learned is that the Tinsley program also uses parts of this intersection of the left side of Paul Guss here. They used this section in front of the Boys and Girls Club primarily. And we found that there are like nine or so school districts. If you separate elementary and high schools, that used that. So this is a very busy thoroughfare. like for all these tinsley buses there's like three main stops and this is one of them and so I guess what we're told is that Ravenswood City School District focuses on the part to the to the north like more in the center of the screen here on the left side of the road and tinsley is more on the the south that hasn't been been the case from what I've observed. I took a photo a couple weeks ago where Paul Dowe was using the one where Ravenswood City School District uses. So I just wanted to bring to the commission's attention that if we do just the staff's recommendation, then we will generally only be establishing a bus loading zone that serves Ravenswood City School District, and it won't be anything that serves the Tinsley Program ones. I don't have any concerns with that right now since we can always come back later and do another one, but I just wanted to let the commission know that. I think this is very focused on just the Ravenswood current bus loading area. I just wanted to ask a fair friend question. If there were potentially to be a bus loading stop there, there would be no type of process to see which buses use it or not, right? So it would kind of be open to everyone, right? Even though that would primarily be- Yeah, if it's a bus loading zone, any bus can unload students there. And I would also just like to get some understanding of, like I noticed that that suggested the section to the north of that mid block crosswalk. Just wanna understand why other alternatives were considered and maybe like why not south of that crosswalk? Oh, it was, I believe it was in the area that was already designated in the red zone. Okay, thanks. Would like to give in there another comments wanted to invite a motion. Yeah, I like to make a motion to recommend to the City Council to establish it a bus loading zone as it's outlined in bullet point number one here. I'll second that motion. I'm all in favor say aye. Hi, hi, hi That was a nine okay, so that was unanimous a commissioner also Okay, so that item passes and so in general it sounds like in summary we've Approved the entire staff recommendation as is so Is that correct? Okay. Next is item number eight written communications, a point one general capital improvement plan updates. So, sorry, I turned on my mic. But as always, I'm not going to go through this item by item. But if any commissioner has any questions or comments, I can try to answer them. Most of us are still finding the page. It's page 15 in the packet. I'm Well, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so hear back from the SFPUC or was it the... There was an agency where we were waiting back here. Yeah, there were two approvals. First, it went midpen. And then midpen approved the MOU in February. I think the next step is SFPUC approval. And I know the latest is that midpen is also working out some design issues. I believe with SFPUC. I think that's the only update that I got after the agenda was posted. That midpen is working out with some design issues. Okay. So if they're working out design issues, does that mean that we've gotten all their approvals necessary to move forward? Or I don't want to misspeak. So that is something that I will need a report back on. Okay. Okay. But it sounds like there's been some progress. Yeah, it's just so people surely moving. I have a tool I could jump in here. I have a quick update on this one. So mid pen is partnering with the city on this project and they're the project lead. They have to get approval from SFPC, which is a San Francisco Public Utilities Commission. The approval is needed for us to build this little crossing along the easement that belongs to SFPUC. That's the reason why SFPUC has to approve this. Initially they had given us permission and that's the reason why Mid pen was able to proceed with the design. The city is the partner and we're cost sharing 50% of the project. Mid pen has completed the designs. The city has approved the design as well, but now it has to go through the approval process with SFPUC and SFPUC had a couple of concerns that they're working out with midpen. And so I heard those are almost completed. So once that approval is obtained from SFUC, midpen will bid the project out and begin construction. We're hoping this will be under construction in the summertime. Do you have any details on what some concerns were? concerns where I was asking because I've heard a lot of residents requesting more gates to be open in the future. Well, if there's more gates that are being requested, then that has to go through a separate approval process because SFPUC reviews these on a case-by-case basis. You know, every single crossing and every location is different and SFPC is very hesitant to allow crossings on their easements for many reasons including, you know, public safety and SFPC, just everybody understands SFPC is the Public Utilities Commission and the easements include major water remains that come in from from Hetch Hetchy and so these are providing water to the entire Bay Area. So they're very very cautious about what they approve on their easements. And so to answer your question, yeah, everything is reviewed on a case by case. For this particular project, the design issues are fairly minor from what I understand and they will be resolved. Thank you. Shorten and then the other item I had a question on is I was at Mok and the entrance to the the Bay preserve or the trail. There's there's that fence there and there's an entrance. It looks like that there were polls put up and it might be a potential fence being put up. I wonder if if staff had any updates or any insights to that. Can you repeat the location or the near? At MLK Park. MLK Park. Not that I'm aware of. Hamza, are you aware of any work going on there? If not, I'll reach out to the rest of the team to see. Yeah, MLK Park has quite a bit of activity and the maintenance division is handling that. So there are some, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but they are building a safety fence area. They also have installed some security cameras there on site. So there's, there's a little bit of work happening there. And yeah, if you have any specific questions, just email us and we'll get to the bottom of it. Okay, yeah. I did, I did, when I, when I came across it,ai did send an email to the engineering Email, but I'll follow up because that was probably last week so I can follow up with an email Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we please then I'll follow up and I'll second with the tool about it Okay, thank you. Thank you, but to. Thanks, Hamza. Hamza, I have a quick question. The month ago, we talked about that upgrade for bathroom in the park. And but also she's going to check on it. Can we get an update? Hey, Joel Davis Park. Correct. Yeah, it's been open back up. I know this past week, there's a bit of I mean I don't know if it'll call it vandalism but some of the kids have been locking themselves in the restroom but the restroom is back up and running because the repairs were done because I believe last month they were still closed and we were waiting on some repairs but the restrooms are up and running but we've had some vandalism issues with I guess just misuse. Maybe I'd say it's misuse So on that topic, I mean I was always very excited about that project that that was very innovative to use the electronic thing But of the last like seven times I've tried to use the restroom and they're in the last six months like only once how I actually been able to use it. Like four times I think I was like broken, one so just rad and I, a f***. I've tried to use the restroom and they're in the last six months. Like only once have I actually been able to use it. Like four times I think I was like broken, one so just rad and I waited outside for 20 minutes and just never, both doors never opened. Just wondering like... Yeah, I think part of it might be, staff had adjusted the hours due to, because what's been happening is honestly often it's been getting vandalized like kids are blushing different things on the toilet or graffiti it or messing with some of the stuff inside so that has been a big part of the problem which has caused it to be closed. So I think it's two things it's like vandalism and then due to some of the vandalism the hours hours were end the day like, because in the winter, the days were, you know, it gets darker sooner. Stuff adjusted the hours. So I don't think the hours actually matched the sign that was outside. So that might be also why if you're there, I think later in past five, it was probably closed because they automatically locked. Yeah, these were on the morning, like 11 a.m. What was the time? 11 a.m. Oh, but I'm just wanting to get a sense like this staff for future restaurant projects because we have that Park's Master Plan, which calls for the things like staff leaning towards and selling the same ones in the future. Well, I mean, this was a pilot. Obviously, we would check in with our Park's team to figure out or they're not, this is something that the city would want to do again. But yeah, this was a pilot. Obviously, we would check in with our parks team to figure out whether or not this is something that the city would want to do again. But yeah, this was a pilot. The smart bathroom was like our first, it was our first smart bathroom to see if it's something that we'd want to do again. Obviously, all these things would be things we would consider before purchasing another. other. And then I did have a comment on the on the 10th one, the Anel Street Reservicing project because the contract has been executed. So I was in University Village walking with a few residents who had brought up concerns. They have a stroller and they're oftentimes finding the parts that are not ADA curbamps yet. And when I reach out to city staff and looked at the plans, it seems like there are still, like many of the roads that are being improved, they're still not going to have ADA ramps added this year because they're like the very basic top layer work, not the one where you do bit. Yeah, it's a slurry. Yeah. And I just was wondering when those ADA ramps will be planned, because I didn't see, I found we sell many intersections that aren't in the plans up to 2020-A. I mean, typically as part of this project, we do do a lot of ADA programs as part of this year's projects. We are doing I think over 50. Typically they happen when we're doing other treatments that aren't the slurry, like we'll go in, we do those other treatments and then do the upgrades. In some cases, like as part of the bus shelter improvement projects, we did some ADA curb ramp upgrades nearby bus stops. So the work really gets done as part of ADA curb ramp upgrades are either part of the annual street resurfacing project or sometimes we have other CIPs where we do that work. Obviously we want to upgrade as many as possible, but curb ramps expensive, so we can't do obviously all of them at the same time. So that's kind of why our approach has been when we are required to do those upgrades, which is anytime we do anything other than a slurry, we do those upgrades. Okay, yeah, the reason I ask about this project is I remember in 2022 in like my first couple months on this commission, when I learned that there were excess fines, just because the project had gone under budget, there was an opportunity to voice an opinion about where to spend some excess fines. And in that case, that's when we put some more work into Florida. And I just want to request that if that happens this year, hopefully, where we go under budget, could the commission have some, give some input into, yeah. Yeah. So if we do have extra contingency funds, sometimes we do add additional work like as part of the last annual street resurfacing, we added additional speed humps. I know we did some striping. Some of the striping actually came, it was recommendations from commission. I think it was like some keep clear striping, some crosswalks. So whenever we get those types of requests, like curb ramp upgrades, we keep them in our tracker. And so when we have excess funds, we, I believe like last time we had looked at what other work we could include. And then lastly I had a question on the street management program. This would not be under a cap improvements plan because these were two speed hunt requests that come through last year. So I spoke recently with, well, I won't say the name of the person, but I spoke recently with the individual on who lives on Fordham, who had submitted a speed hump request in April last year, 11 months ago. She got 45 signatures from 90% of the homes on Fordham between Notre Dame and Bay Road, two segments. Just wanted to follow up to see if there are any updates on data collection per the street management policy. Nothing at the moment that I can provide, but we are planning to bring back some updates. And I also did want to add that we're planning to update the speed home policy. We're hoping to bring an item next month that's updating the policy to address some of the concerns that the commission had brought up a few months ago, specifically regarding like the street classifications, because a lot of the streets like Fordham or Paul, Gis are eligible for speed humps because of this criteria. So we are planning to bring that back to the commission very soon. Okay, thank you. Does anyone else have any other comments here? Okay. So next is item number nine, future commission agenda item requests 9.1. Does any, do you any commissioners have any questions or comments on feature items? I don't, I actually have a question, but probably you can help me out here. I'm very new and I'm just learning. And during my first and second meetings, I have seen a lot of items for future requests that was put by commissioners. And this is my experience that I've never seen in address to put it in an agenda. So I was wondering is there is a procedure that can be follow it or should it be like additional email about how does it work? I'm just can you? The procedure is you could send emails, we added to this list or if it's brought up during the meeting, we added to this list. Whether or not it gets added to the agenda really depends on staff's capacity and ability to prepare an item and bring it to commission. Obviously our goal is to try to bring as many items as possible, but that's not always the case, but hopefully the next couple of meetings will have a lot more items for you guys to discuss. So that's kind of my goal right now to bring more items to the commission. But yeah, for the procedure, I think the best time would be during meetings, but if something comes up after the meeting, feel free to shoot us an email and we'll we add it to this list. So if I put a request for future items and it was not addressed, so should I follow up on it via email? Yeah, you could or if it's something that you wanted to bring up right now We could I could try to answer but yeah, you could always follow up via email. Thank you I'm sure I'm okay. I just wanted to reiterate my requests from last month's meeting. Since last month, I've noticed two new vendors that I've kind of popped up on the side of the street, one over the ramp, and then one on that weird cross-intersection between Rau Marne Bay. So I would love to just reiterate that. I can't clarify what type of vendors you're referring to. Food vendors. I'm second to that. Actually, it's really safety concerns because people are selling hot food on this street without denielisening I was checking and normally they just don't get an idea that they need an license. You're asking them like what what license what they're talking about. Before we got a commission with Coney Betul is understanding, I mean, I'm hearing some demand for something about the street vendors, but I know this may not fall under a commission, but is there some way that this might be agendas? Yeah, you know, I could check in with our CEDD staff because I know code enforcement has been investigating this item and other city staff as well because it has been brought up by a lot of residents and we've been hearing a lot of concerns about, you know, our mobile vendors and food vendors. And so I could check in with them to see if we could potentially have someone come and present with some updates on what they're doing and how they're addressing this issue. I can chime in here good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. So I think the commission should keep a close tab on that when the agenda is released for the City Council meeting. I believe I think that's what it's scheduled for April 15th for now. It may get pushed out, but that's tentative for April 15th. So please, you're interested in this topic. Make sure you attend and provide any public comment during that meeting. And just from my understanding for things related to code enforcement, which are in the building division, is there any other commission in the city that receives and looks at code enforcement related issues? Does the planning commission do that? Not that I'm aware of. I could check with planning to see if that's under their purview. But my understanding is like code enforcement deals with all code enforcement issues. And I don't think it needs, it doesn't need to go to commissions. Because you know, code enforcement enforces our muni code, which is already adopted. So it's already like policy. Yeah, um, the couple of couple of requests are just couple items. Um, I think it's important as the commissioners have have added that, you know added that some of these items come forward as we put them on there within within the appropriate time. But also looking at this list, I think removing some of the items that we've have heard on or reported on. Like for example, like I think Cummings loss can come off since we've had a lot of conversations on that and an actual tour this previous week or this couple days ago. And then the permit parking program, I think in Damascus, that has been in front of the council, and they've approved it like Commissioner Ishmael has reported. But the other outside of this, there was something that I wanted to request and it's more administrative is with the digital agenda packets. If we can include the PowerPoint presentations on there so we can review it ahead of time. I know we discussed it before but in the issue was having it a physical copy but I don't think we need physical copy. I'm looking at commissioners but a digital copy would be useful for us to review the presentation beforehand. I've seen city council packets and they have like 400 pages online. So maybe we can. Yeah, and it's something that we could either include in the packet or send in advance of the meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll make note of that. Also, I guess a recommend. for the commission is we could, you know, one, it doesn't have to be tonight, but maybe next meeting we can sit in prioritize items and you can tell us, hey, these are like top three that we really want staff to bring first because I know we have a long list, but we could potentially do that, like maybe prioritize things and then that could help us, you know, focus on the items that you really want to see. Yeah, I actually have been putting some thoughts into that. Can I share that now? Some prioritization. So I was aligning these with council priorities. We don't have the new council priorities yet, but we do have the previous councils. And I thought that the fifth item, the usage of city's trouble reporting system aligns with one of council's item priorities number six or improving the safety of public facilities. I would like to see would like to propose that we Look at that one especially given that that item has been on this feature list for 12 12 months now ever since the beginning of that we started documenting all of the future items. I actually don't remember who brought this one up before it was in me, but I've seen some trouble reporting like boxes around the city and given that police speed meetings are saying crime is up 30% year on a year. I think it's even more critical now. And then I can work with you separately on maybe two other things. Okay, based on some of my conversations with some commissioners. Okay, that sounds good. And then I also did want to make a request for feature item. I wanted to make a request to present some findings from the SamTrans write plus statistics. I had made over email but didn't see in this list. I just wanted to make sure it was being tracked. You know, I might have, because you know, I saw the SamTrans informational report. I felt like that was also that encompassed it, but I could have a separate so an explicitly states that it's a presentation that you will give. Yeah, that'd be helpful, because Sam Trins wasn't willing to give this presentation because they were understaffed. Okay, we'll just want to check again if there's any thoughts. Okay. Um, yeah, number 10. I'll call the meeting to the German them. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not sure. That's the solution for your Davis. Yeah, I know. The stainless steel on recording stopped. Thank you. I know the longer. Yeah. I think. I will. Oh, yeah, I know. The, I know. I know. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know. 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