Good evening. I will now call the April 29, 2025 meeting of the Board of Supervisors to order. This meeting will be conducted for Sonnet to the VALO's of the Cumberland County, the Virginia Board of Supervisors to ensure a fair, orderly and safe meeting. Exers from the VALO's pertaining to Pupec have been posted outside for you. Ms. Brance, please call the world. Mr. Henley. Here is the movement. Here. Mr. Tari. Here is the Simpson. Here is the song. Here. That's a title of a happy invitation. The Lord, the company today asking for your guidance wisdom, and support as we begin this meeting. How to set a gauge in meaningful discussion? Allow us to grow closer as a group and nurture the bonds of community. May we voice our truth and listen with an open heart. May we discern your will to unite in a fruitful outcome. We ask for your wisdom and grace to use our talents for the betterment of others. With gratitude we offer this prayer in your name. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic, which it stands one nation and a god and a divisible. The regime can go just as well. So we have a motion to approve the agenda as presented. So moved. Second. Mr. Hamlin. Aye. Mr. Dominguez. Mr. Therry. Mr. Dominguez? Aye. Mr. Starrie? Aye. That this time public hearings, this bridge, do we have any, are there any additional public comments to your audience? We can now close the public hearing. Any discussion about board members of the board. Okay. At this time, we're doing a heavy motion to approve the proposed 2025 tax rate as presented. So moved. Exactly. Mr. Hamlin. No. Mr. Newman. Yes. Mr. Tari. Yes. Mr. Stemson. Yes. Mr. Sons. Yes. Do we have a motion to approve the proposed FY 2025, 2026 I First, I'm sorry. Ms. Tyree, I've got an update as it relates to the budget and I wanted to present the updates as instructed by the board during the previous meeting back in the 22nd to give you an update on the recommendation and then allow the board for some discussion if necessary. But I wanted to provide an update. And as part of the original recommendation, we had recommended, I'd recommended flat funding on the school transfer of $5,094,459. And the board did task us what's going back and reviewing the budget. And I am requesting an additional $127,082. That was a number of figures presented to me by Dr. Jones bringing the school transport total of five million, seven, 21, five, 41. And that would allow them to make some adjustments within their own budget that would include no outside county students that would be included in the average daily membership and enrollment. Some state DOE funding would still be access to allow for raises and support of teaching positions. And some class sizes would need to be adjusted to accommodate this as well. Some future items for considerations, there are now no new positions requested or recommended as part of this budget. The budget does include a 3% across the board but they've won an 1% bonus per the compensation board. We were looking into how we can make that more equitable. We have not reached a recommendation for the board this time. So the recommendation is to move forward with how we present it and we can come back to you with the recommendation in the future as to how we could potentially handle this this situation. There were some adjustments to the water. The super fund we did change some of our expenditure estimates and our salary and French allocations. We revisited those as it pertains to the operation of the system and we're able to reduce the transfer from the general fund to support the system. Revenues were also reviewed and updated with new information and projections. You can see the next slide, slide number nine I believe, granted will general fund expenditures are 21 million 184 174. And there are only slight modifications to expenditures and those changes are primarily related to the transfer from the general funds to the utilities and our expenses related to the water and the sewer fund as well. The next slide, slide number 10 includes our overall total proposed budget of 43 million 129.35 and there's further breakdown there as it relates to school operations, the Governor's school fund, our debt service, social services, utilities, EDA, asset forfeiture, special welfare, special welfare in the child services act. So those are the changes that we've come back to you with based upon the feedback of the previous meeting and I'm glad to answer any questions. It does, well, the position's never been created. So if all it does is it doesn't fund that, that position's on the correct. Okay. And I'm sure apologies is in the right place. That's correct. So I'd like to thank you. That's a great dish for me when helping free up this additional 120,000. This is Stain.. I know previously, I'm talking about the 3% cost of the work raised for staff. We address the increase in health insurance cost. I think it was about 12% increase this year. That's correct. That is. It's proposed prior. It's going to be a 50-50, whether it's the county would have put a board of 50% in the 50% of the field staff. And I just want to present to my colleagues on the board, it's a field debt. And I don't think there would be anybody in disagreement with me on this issue. I feel that we have valuable assets in the people that are employed by this county. In many cases, they're replaceable. With the knowledge and the skills and abilities that they bring every day to work. And I think that the number I had seen was about $29,000. It's different. And I just feel that we have people that wear many hats and the positions that they're in. I don't think anybody could argue that anybody currently on staff is overpaid. If anything, I think it would be a guard you that for what they do and for what's expected of them that they're underpaid. And I think when I look at certain allocations in this budget, I just want to know, I feel that we don't have our priorities in the board. And I wanted to see what we can do to fully find the increase in health insurance. So $2,000, $29,000. When I look at a parks and wreck budget, $339,000 for a department that I don't really think that the community really sees a huge benefit from. You know, we're not running it usually. That's a 5.1 C3 course. You also hear more $15,000 to fund current youth athleticists as J.R.2. Not funding them, but to give them funds. And I just think that there's too much money on an apartment that really I think has minimal benefit. I think the cost, I always benefit, I look at it and I look at it. Nothing against that department, nothing against the folks in the placement department. But when you look at the overall spend, the benefit that it brings, I just feel that there are funds there that could be better used elsewhere. I look at flat funding, our volunteer part department, departments, and the fact that with a lot of projects that this board has approved some, and previous boards have approved others, that there's a big task on our volunteers, one in all volunteer part department, we're dumping more and more on them, and yet we're flat-funding that department, but we're spending way more on parks and rags that I think has value. Obviously, there's your value in parks and rags, but I think when you look at the events that are going on, I don't think that you get the turnout that really, you can say that it's a huge asset to the overall community whereas our staff are of much more valuable assets to this community. Our fire department is a huge benefit to this community. So, you know, I would have been to say that we take at least at a minimum of the $29,000 to the park and recreation department and use that to fully fund the increase in health insurance costs for our staff. For the more I would move that we would take another $90,000 from parts of rep and divide that equally amongst our volunteers to give them an additional 30,000 dollar per per fire So we'll take a look at some ocean water in the darkness. This end, to your your, to the current viewing of the arts to the 29,000 public insurance. That's totally a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a grieve, a Howler's to revamp the budget that's going to be done for tonight. But you were helping very well, cornering the guards to the health insurance. And to cause the living is not going on. And how she shows us a very vital piece to all the the folks in Seoul having to come on the parking lot additional funds I get all they like to miss. Sorry with them staying away. I would like to see if we could cover this just for a short. Both the state and that's just my thing. We have to adopt a budget before you this evening. You can, Jennifer correct me if I'm wrong, you can adopt the budget as presented with the caveat or with whatever amendments you would like. If you want us to go back and find the revenue for the, to offset that 50% cost to staff, we could do that. But that's the part of the election. And I just want to clarify, there is a motion that is going made. I did move that we allocate the funds from Parking Rep to cover the insurance or staff. And I can make a separate motion. I can withdraw that motion because I included $90,000 out of Parking Rep's budget for our higher apartments. So if I may, I'll withdraw the motion and then I will move that we take the $29,000 out of the form of work. How are the surrounding families? We talked about being accurate or they... It's a mix. It's a mix. Some of them are responsible. I get it. Some of them are passing in or long to the employees. That's very... That's typically when you say splits, splits have 50-50% of the study. So when you say split, when I'm talking about you know understand and just to make sure we're clear on the actors, we all need to know that the dynamics and that process. Yes, it's the split on the increase. It's not the split on the total growth. And again, if we had a few more people, we would not have to worry about the increase in rate because particularly on people in the wages. And sometimes that's a split. Sometimes the larger groups they get, the bigger, the slower turnout would increase in the future. Just like we're dealing with bonuses, you're going to fall asleep, you're going to fall asleep, He was the board of time. He was only 5% and now all the families do that to go at current. So that was pretty good. And I will also mention that right now the total budget for the right department is 152,290 dollars. What we did, no? 152,200. So the number we came on for over a few minutes ago, 300,000, where did that come from? Where did that come from? That was the combination of the Parks and Rec and Cultural section that includes the contributions of the library. Okay, yeah. So if we were to pay $9,000 and $29,000 for Forbes and Iraq, that would make them out. Essentially it would eliminate the debt. Right. And of the amount of their budget, $123,000 is for salaries and benefits and that includes one full time and two Yeah, I remember the budget and throughout the process and I was trying to figure out where the money was, I'm not aware of some of that. I just put it all together in one line. Yeah, but like I said, it affects you the number of dollars. I'm just talking about the number of dollars. I'm starting to get out again. You start taking a man and a wife. So, um, Hamlin, I know you put the motion on there, do you want to kind of prevent the motion since you heard the motion? I remember that we, instead of doing both items, that I set forth in my original motion, I'll look through that motion and I'm motion that we Take 29,000 out of the park and wreck the budget and we allocate that to cover the Full increase in health insurance costs or our staff There's a motion on the floor. Is there a second? Oh, are you asking the question? Yes, hold the problem for a second. So if you took that amount out of the recreation budget, that would leave that in front of 94,136. I just told you that. So you are here the numbers. Mr. Neumann, that's made a motion to force, to fully cover the increase in health insurance or the county of Bowie's. We would like for it to come power the cars and the wreck. We made a motion. Only one second. The motion. Outside. You're second. So it has to be. Mr. Moore? Aye. Mr. Newman? Clubs there. Mr. Newman. Mr. Terry. Mr. Stemson. Mr. Stemson. Mr. Stemson. And I'm saying that you can't, I'm not a man, but it didn't necessary for me to have to come out of the car to work out, just what I thought was to have found the money from someone to cut the meat and pull this out from the shop. It's a maybe, I mean, mostly they're completed. I don't know if there's any way we can go back and we're strapped to say that you seek out from buying the money from someone. You could. Yes, we can make a request at the board and we can operate that. Yeah, we can operate it if you sell it. I think. Oh, you said they don't really come in out of the Fox and Breckler, we're on this phone today now. Oh, so that's for me. That was on motion, and the work just passed that motion. The board, the perroctoral's board, could anyone the imperative based on additional information that you provided could then motion to reconsider? You can go out in a different way, but I just look at a lot of facts and the part of it that I feel a bit kind of, it's not fully going fit to the community at all. Can I do a motion for you in the Senate? Sure. So we can discuss that at this point. The... I do agree with the concept. I don't agree with the timing of the think we've done this prior period. I don't know the impact of parts of the wreck, because essentially it would have come out and it would have been a long and eight-part time salary. And so I think I don't know the. I will. If we can get through this budget one more time, we can have a look at 29,000. So we can approve it. You can approve it, and then we can come back to you and seek an abbreviation. That's my suggestion. Yeah, that's the second. So, say it, say it. That's the clear. for right now to come our insurance. So if they don't want it, if they even date me five days somewhere else, Jennifer can bring it before you want to reappropriate it, come on somebody else. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can go ahead and accept which the board is approved and then we got some more to do. How else we do have to approve the budget today? Yes. So we have to approve the budget today. So I'm going to get it this time. Yeah, yeah. So you want to get it? I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. see CIP. Let me scroll through this. There's no changes associated with the CIP based upon the board feedback from the previous meeting last week. So at this time staff is recommending the approval of the FY26 Tweet. I'm sorry FY 2026, 2031, Capital Improvement plan is presented into a sign $450,000 from the county's general fund to the Cumberlandur polls, ZIP, FYG 2026, and 231, as was in, are coming in on the street. The process. at the end of the day, I always say this is your being, your resident, so just in this county. You know, this, you have to do budgets. You know the process. It's never an easy thing. I'm very happy that the board was able to allocate additional funds to schools, especially in the light of a certain someone who's not going to be with us after the summer. And having to replace that talent. So I just want to thank the Eric, our chief sergeant, Mr. Stamie. Thank you for all your effort. Jennifer, who's great. Ms. Grant, members of the board, I just want to thank you all for everything that's been put into this. This isn't an easy task. A little bit easier to just go around. I think then last time because you had three newcomers and we had to jump right into it right after being sworn in. But we're trying to do a lot with a little. And then the day I think about every citizen of this county, when their costs go up, they have to decide certain things, certain comforts in life that they might have to buy it has because they have to take care of the necessities. And you know, same thing, I think, with the board with staff. So I just want to thank everybody for the process and thank you all for coming. I was always trying to stand up for a hard work and go into. I'm not a group that tried to find the right number. I'm going to go back into it. Madam Chair, can I say something? I want to thank the opportunity to say thank you to staff to, first of all, Tiana and Jennifer, putting up with me. Getting up with me for the last. Yeah. That's okay. We're very open and honest with each other. But just putting up with me, we do, and and Brian, he touched on this earlier, Mr. Hamlin. Touch on this earlier, we do have tremendous staff and Tiana, Jennifer did a great job as we worked through this budget and really trying to come to a point where we could bring a solid recommendation to the board and I wanna thank the board too for your engagement because that means the most is when you're engaged and you're asking questions that helps us get to where we need to be so again thank you to all the department head to work through this process with the school's Dr. Jenner I'm gonna miss him greatly I consider him a friend as well as a colleague and just want to say thank you so appreciate it and we. I remember where it goes. I'm already working. I'm on that. I just want to say to the sustain me, the bridge, the screen. Thank you, thank you, thank you. So, you know it's not easy. And we know we keep coming back with different things. We have five of us to be in for one lady and four of us are kids up here that keep coming back to the drawing board with things but yet we work with us with a smile and we do your diligence to make things happen. So I appreciate you for that. Thank you all for coming out tonight. We're not going along because the same day that we've been to these numbers again, so you have more work to do. And so with that being said, do we have a motion to adjourn the meeting? So, thank you. Good night. Mr. Hamlet. Mr. Newman. He's Harry. Hi, Mrs. Nusson. Hi. Mr. Sons. Good night everyone. Good night everyone.