Music I'm going to do a regular meeting of the Folk River Tone CD Council. It is Monday, March 17, 2025. The time is 1.51 pm. Our first item of business today is a proclamation for Florida bicycle month. And we actually took a photo with Engineering Director Zach Beer, Traffic Engineer Neuresh Mahatcha Verbru, and others from our public works and engineering teams. So at this point, Miss Sidney, please read the proclamation. We'll go with that. Whereas bicycling is a clean, efficient, healthy, economical, and accessible means of transportation and recreation, with a variety of associated benefits for individuals and society at large. And whereas bicycling has the potential to play a significant transportation role in Bokoritone and the surrounding in Firen's to reduce the number and impact of motor vehicle trips and to improve the quality of life in our city. And whereas the city of Boca Raton has a commitment to maintain and improve conditions for bicyclists who ride to work and school to accomplish errands and for recreation and fitness. Whereas through these efforts Boca Raton now has over 84 miles of bicycle, as well as shared youth paths and trails. The City's bicycle network has been enhanced by unique and highly successful projects. And whereas the state of Florida officially recognizes March as bicycle month, now therefore I, Scott Singer, mayor of the city of Boca Raton, Florida. Do hereby proclaim March 2025 this Florida bicycle month in Boca Raton. And in so doing, encourage our residents to enjoy bicycling in Boca Raton's improved network of paths and trails. Thank you very much. I know my colleagues, Deputy Mayor Drucker and Council Member Naclas have been participating in bikes, bike rides through the TPA, and all other colleagues ride bikes as well. And I believe we have a free bike tune up available to residents this Friday and details at myboker.us. Oh, Ms. Rucker. Mayor, can I take a point of privilege and to do someone in the audience before they head out? Certainly. So good afternoon everyone. So my daughter is visiting from Maryland for college rakes. Thank you for joining us. We want to reference Carol, they're in the chambers. And I just wanted you to welcome you to Booker Retone. And I'm not that you're staying with us. And I hope that you enjoy this city as much as I enjoy the city. And Sally, it's great to have you home this week. Welcome back. If you'd like to apply for any boards, we're going to entertain those now. Dr. Walker, your resident, you qualify for many of those. All right. Thank you. Well, she's not all of them require residency, but we've had college students to claim your residency in any case that'll be up to you but we do have applicants for several boards including our Community Advisory Panel I know someone wanted to speak earlier so if you're interested in interviewing for this board or any other when your board is called please come up to the lectern give your name and address and you'll have to three minutes to tell us why you want to serve. Thank you. So community advisory panel, yes, you're first. Thank you. Hi, my name is Dr. Georgia Christakis, and I live at 1011 Northwest Forests Street in Boca Raton, Florida. I am applying to serve on the Community Advisory Panel. Boca Raton is very special to me. I was actually born and raised here, and I attended two of our public schools, and spending much of my childhood at our beautiful beaches, parks, and nature centers. I moved away for school in my medical training, and a few years ago, I moved back to raise my family and practice medicine here. As a pediatrician and mom, I'm really thankful to be able to raise my family in a city that's green with so many wonderful resources for kids and their families as we kind of talked about with the Bicycle Initiative for March. I've seen Booklet return through many years of change and while change is not necessarily a bad thing, it's important that to me that our city grows in a way that's sustainable, mindful and beneficial to all of us in the community. I would love to see RCD expand its walking, running, and cycling trails and paths, and continue to offer green space for everyone to enjoy. As the one born and raised here, it's also important to me that our city remains affordable and accessible to everyone, not just a select few. It would be an honor to serve on the community advisory panel and to be a part of the next era of our city's growth. Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak today. Thank you. Any questions for Dr. Chris Takas? All right. Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak today. Thank you. Any questions for Dr. Christakis? All right, thank you. We'll make the appointments tomorrow night and this goes for this board and any other CS come on up. You do not need to be present tomorrow night to be considered if you interviewed today. Good afternoon. My name is Brad Jaffey. I live at 1495 Northwest, 48th Lane in Boca Raton. I am a licensed clinical social worker. I have my own private practice here in Boca. And I also am the senior program manager for mental health services for Chewy.com. So if you have pets, hopefully you're a customer of Chewy. I've been with them for almost eight years. almost eight years. So having lived in the city almost my entire life, born and raised here, moved back here after grad school. I believe that I possess a deep understanding of Bokeh's history, culture, and evolving needs. I have awareness of the city's challenges and strengths, and I think those will make me a valuable voice in any decision-making process. believe that civic engagement is a crucial part of building a thriving and balanced community. It is important that is important to effectively contribute to discussions, collaborate with others, and drive positive change for the City of Boca Raton. I've used serving this committee as a rewarding and meaningful responsibility. I'm dedicated to making a tangible impact by advocating for residents and ensuring that all voices are heard. Finally, I'm eager to contribute ideas that promote sustainable growth and community well-being for all residents of Bokorotone. I look forward to hearing from you and hope to be able to serve on the Community Advisory Panel. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions? All right. Thank you. Any other applicants for this board? Yes. Thank you for having me. My name is Jose Soto. My address is 20943 Pacifico Terrace. That's in Bokea. 3343. Thank you for having me. My name is Jose Soto and my address is 20943, Pacifico Terrace, that's in Boca, 3343. I came to Boca about 24 years ago to be a future for my family and I fell in love with this community. I bring over 25 years of business and leadership experience. I have held organizations grow and be more efficient. And I also have a track record of community service through a score, the Hispanic and entrepreneurship initiative in collaboration with the bulk agenda of commerce, and also with the city's community emergency response team. My purpose is to empower individuals and organizations to achieve their best and to enhance the well-being of communities. I feel ready to serve Boka at the higher level and amigur to serve in the Community Advisory Panel because I want this city to remain as a world-class, beautiful, vibrant community and one of the most desirable places to live in. As a member of the Community Advisory Panel, I look forward to contributing to initiatives that improve the quality of life for all of residents. I believe that my experience and skills align particularly well with three of the cities, key, a strategy-focused areas and priorities, and key areas identified in the community survey. The first one is community engagement. I can help by engaging with the communities, understand their concerns and needs and increase resident participation. The second area is sustaining an economic growth. I am committed to fostering the development of small and medium businesses and supporting the local entrepreneurs to strengthen our economic foundation. And the third area is in the delivery of work-class services. I can help by identifying opportunities for process improvement, innovation, and adoption of key technologies to enhance the delivery of services across the city. Finally, some phone facts about me. I'm an avid traveler, outdoor enthusiast, Fudi, and I love discovering hidden gems here in Boca. I can mention some of ones that I discovered lately. And also as a former university professor, I look forward to re-entering the higher education field and teaching Boca. Thank you for your time and consideration, and I look forward to serving the community advisory panel to make a positive difference for our city. Thank you. Thank you, any questions? Thank you. Any other applicants for the Community Advisory Panel? All right, we'll take up those appointments to run out, as I said. Thank you for your interviewing. We'll consider them all tomorrow night. Turn to the Community Appearance Board. So Mr. Rodriguez, present. Believe me, you're only applicant. He's our only applicant. All right. General employees pension board, I see some applicants. Welcome Mr. Timberlake, please give your name and address. You'll have three minutes up to. Good afternoon, Mayor Steven Timberlake. I'm special project manager for the city at 114 Harbour's Way I've been a member of the General Police Pension Plan. This will be my Third appointment. I've been the chair for the last five years and I'm happy to continue to serve at your pleasure Thank you short and sweet any questions all right. Thank you. Mr. Sirreco Don't see you. All right, again, we'll consider those tomorrow night. We'll turn to the permitting and construction review board. I don't believe we have applicants for this position. We are looking for an architect. We filled some of the other positions, but now we're just looking for, oh no, excuse me, we're looking for an engineer structural engineer. So we got the electrical engineer after a long last, Now we'd like a structural engineer. You know anyone, please ask him no fly. We'll turn to the planning and zoning board. I don't believe we have any applicants present. And then we'll turn to the police fight, police and firefighters retirement system board. And I know you have some applicants. Thank you Mr. Wilhaf, welcome. Good afternoon everybody. Just we everybody. I'm up here to reapply for the police and fire pension board. Open position. I believe there's two open positions served on the pension board for approximately 20 years. And the last two years in the capacity as a city of pointy. I don't know if anybody has any questions for me. Thank you. Any questions? All right, thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon. Sean Flynn. I am a city resident with an exempted address under 119. I'm here as well to apply for the police and fire patch of position. I am educated here in the city of Boquerotone, Masters from the University. I have recently retired from the Boquerotone Police Department after 25 and a half years. And I have invested interest in the plan not just for myself, but for my brothers and sisters in police and fire. Thank you. Council members, any questions? I just wanted to say congratulations. I haven't seen you since retirement, Captain. You're looking well and thank you for your interest in serving. Thank you, sir. Thank you. And thank you. All right. That concludes our board interviews. So open the floor to public requests. Ms. Colis, I have your card. Ms. Moriah, you know you want to speak under item seven. So we can hold your card until public requests. Ms. Colis, I have your card, Ms. Mori. You know you want to speak under item seven. So we can hold your card until then. But Ms. Colis, if you'd like to speak now, please. And then anyone else who wishes to speak back to the room. Hello. My name is Anastasia Colas. I live at 199 Mansfield E. Book or Ahton, Florida. I submitted a project proposal and it is included on page three of the document that you just got. Cybercrime has been connected to billions in dollars in damages and I'm willing to establish a police force or even just a volunteer force to combat this for free but there are certain costs which are listed above transportation cost, equipment costs, and there is a needed education for some of the cops as well, because they're not doing the same thing that traditional cops do. I have been trying to form this police force since last year and I am losing hope on it being understood that the current police force that we have cannot deal with cyber crime at all. I believe rapes, break ins, thefts that cause billions and dollars of damages is more important than traffic stops. And resolving this for nothing more than a vehicle and funding for items like printing and equipment costs and possibly like assistance to make sure when I leave for work my mom is okay is what I'm looking for. I know $700,000 is a lot of money but this may seem small in in comparison to what can happen when you guys invest $2 million to change the water infrastructure and something goes wrong and people end up sick in bulk up. So and that ends up endangering citizens because of some unscrupulous upgrade in technology that needs to be reviewed by educated police officers, cybercops. I may look bad in a lot of places, but I have over 50 signatures confirming the issues that I referenced previously, such as DNS corruption in the Boca Raton area, the need for a stronger force to look at. Skate networks and so on. And no, normal police officers cannot do any of this since cannot do any of this. If something goes wrong with our infrastructure or tech in this area, cops around here cannot respond well. I even have an example of Apple in Best Buy where someone targeted their supply chains and got bad tech into those stores. That's included in the packets you have. Cyber criminals know that police officers don't look at any of this. And that's why cybercrime is high in the bulk of a tone area. In fact, something strange is going on. I had referenced that cyber criminals living here are now going to police departments and copying my idea to do harm rather than good. That's not good at all. They're going to other cities, and those cities are actually paying criminals behind the crimes to investigate now and the person who actually made the idea of cyber police is not actually able to do anything right now. So this is part of this. Can you please conclude your remarks your time is as well. Okay. All right. This is part of the reason why I'm stressed that we need to make a proper cyber police force because this needs to be resolved as quickly as possible. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? Jonathan, on June 65-01, Avenue. I wasn't going to come, but then I heard the comments in the CRA about house specifically about House Bill 991. Apparently everything this city does is great. Everybody else does it. However, obviously I came for many, many times regarding state bill 328 or state bill 102. And this city's interpretation may be the reason and part of the reason why this state is taking action regarding the CRAs. because this city specifically, and I've spoken to the author of state bill 102 and 328, what this city did exempting in essence the downtown is exactly probably why they did this. And maybe if a bill such as this passed it would make you think city-wide instead of thinking that you can exempt an area and maybe there'll be better legislation that this city makes so I've spoken behind the scenes to many of you. I've seen presentations on the downtown government project in which where they, certain council members, envision this city's center. And maybe it's time that we look at the, as a council to ask your staff regarding 20 units in acre for an area such as this that you see project after project tomorrow night or sorry at PNZ there's another hearing for Park of Commerce Boulevard for 234 more units. So we're talking 10 acre 15 acre properties, 20 acre properties, home depot. This is where all the developments happening. And unless you incorporate, they're incorporating 80,000 square feet of a different use, yet still doing the maximum. Unless you get your entire neighborhood involved, all the parcels around you, you can't do meaningful development at 20 units an acre whether it be mutual of America office depot every site has mixed use they maximize their residential and it still have other uses on the property So again, I think you all should think about what staple 9991 is about and What you've done and this previous city attorney regarding the interpretation of the downtown being exempt from a project from projects regarding state bill 328 Because there's a reason why the state this state does what the state does So I just like to think you all to about that, maybe make a suggestion that 20 units an acre isn't feasible in Boca Raton to do mixed use residential where this is the area that it's meant to be and allow it to develop and allow this area to flourish the way that PMD intended and the city can do great things and increase the tax revenue and everything else. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? As well, yes. Do you want to speak now or under the item that you requested number seven, which is the downed campus? You can choose either one. I'm a government redevelopment. Why don't you just wait a moment, too? Because we'll have an update momentarily and there's not much on the agenda before. And excuse me, I did not bring my hearing aid so please help me. Certainly and if you need assistance the meantime our staff can help you but I will I think we're okay. Anyone else wishing to speak under public request? Then we'll close the time for public request. We'll turn to items a review of regular agenda items. Are there any questions concerning tomorrow night's agenda? Ms. Drucker. No, Mayor Singer, but I just want to clarify a point. I usually don't comment on public request, but I am going to comment to students. I brought the Sierra information. Mr. Anjane, I can assure you that it wasn't our city that caused this bill to come forward. It was absolutely not the correct thing that you're saying. Those two bills have nothing to do with each other. The reason that bill was brought forward is my job to educate you, because I'm the one up there, we're the ones up there. It was because certain cities allegedly were misusing the funds in the CRA. And I know that our city does not do that because we get audit every year, and that information is public record. But it's very important for me as I sit up here and advocate for our city and our state that we always have accurate information is our job of here to educate folks like you so that there's no misinformation out there. And if you would like to have any other conversation, we could plan on that. Thank you, Mayor Singer. Thank you for any other, all right. Thank you for that. Any questions concerning tomorrow night's agenda? If so, we can take up those items when they're heard tomorrow. So I don't see any. I will go now immediately to was seven, but it's actually item five. Future agenda matters, items of public concern, and we have, as always, at our agendas, the government campus partnership opportunity. So I'll turn first to Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mayor. and the staff will be going to be going tomorrow night. Thank you, Mr. Cassell. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Thank you. Good afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mr. Cassell. Thank you, Mr. McKasex. It's going to give us a brief update on where we are today and where we're going to be going tomorrow night. Thank you, Mr. McKasex. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Thank you and good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Can I hear it's a better? Okay, sorry about that. So probably more comments than reports at this point. A couple of things. One is that lots of activity in the background. staff has been meeting on a weekly basis with CBRA. We're working on developing our action plans, planning next steps, giving updates as to where we are, and certain items related to the ultimate development of the downtown campus. That's happening on a regular basis. So rest assured, there's a lot of people engaged in moving us forward as we're making our plans. Included in that is looking for an evaluating temporary office space. So we have been working over the course of the past several weeks trying to identify temporary office space, trying to understand what our best opportunities might be. So that process is ongoing. We're continuing to share public feedback with Terrafresbee. So as you know, you receive the comments from the public every week. So we give you a summary as to what we've heard. And we're responding to some of those comments, too, by the way. If there's a question or something we can respond to, we're doing that. But we're sharing that with Terrafors B, so they're aware of some of the comments and some of the concerns that residents have raised as it relates to the downtown project. And then lastly, we're working with Terrafors B right now to start establishing some work groups. Those work groups are going to be critical building blocks for us to be able to work on all of the components of the master partnership agreement that will be that will ultimately Be the goal of all the work that we're going to do that we're going to talk about here in a second Tomorrow tomorrow is an important day because you're considering an interim agreement with terrifors B That particular agreement is going to set the the roles and responsibilities for the city and for Terraforsbee. That particular agreement is going to set the roles and responsibilities for the city and for Terraforsbee. It's also going to establish some timelines for certain milestone events that need to happen along the way as we're working towards a master partnership agreement. That master partnership agreement is really going to set the framework for us as we're moving forward. So it'll set the, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll, provide the roles and responsibilities again for both parties. It'll ultimately kind of carve that path for the redevelopment of the downtown campus. That, that process is also going to result in a lot of public outreach. So you'll hear me talk a little bit tomorrow as we go through the timeline and some of the aspects of that in-term agreement. We already have some upfront public outreach that we're going to do before they come before Terrafirs becomes back with a revised conceptual plan. It will be referred to as an interim master plan. But they're going to be revising their concept plan and we're going to be doing some public engagement, some deep public engagement before they get to that point. So I just wanted to kind of give you that, that will update as to where we are, where we're going. We'll talk a little bit more about what's in the interim agreement, what the timelines are tomorrow night. But happy to answer any questions that you might have before then. All right, council members, any questions for staff? Oh, Mr. Wager. Thank you. It was resettled. Thank you. When we talk about the idea of municipal services being downtown, you used in several instances the word temporary. We've had previous conversations, multiple conversations, that the evaluation that CBRE will be doing along with our new potential partner would be a cost-benefit analysis of not just a temporary move, but true, once we get actual construction estimates of the cost to do this, which preliminary estimates from many of the proposers are at six or seven or $800 a square foot that we could either bifurcate municipal services, move into some sort of long term lease in another more centralized geographic jurisdiction of the city. And so Mr. McKase, I just want to make sure that we're understanding that at least it's my understanding. I don't think we have all had a conversation that this would be a simple replacement of City Hall at least it's my understanding that we're still evaluating what's actually going to happen there. How much of the services will stay here because at least it's my opinion that it's a cost issue right. We're looking for the best you know the best thing for the taxpayers the best thing for the residents and until we have those figures, which is gonna happen during the due diligence phase of this, and with CBRAs help in evaluating those things, my feeling is we're not there yet. So I just wanna make sure, because you know, multiple conversations have had with staff, whether it's Mr. Brown or whatnot, have indicated that looking at long-term possibilities would also be part of the feasibility study. And so I just want to make sure that that's the case because that's what specifically expressed to me. Yes, thank you for asking that clarifying question. So we are in the process of evaluating, well, what is the cost if we remain downtown? What is the cost if we are somewhere out west so we still have that evaluation to complete but yes that is a part of our due diligence. Appreciate it thanks very much. Thank you. In response to Mr. Readers comments I do think some clarification is necessary because I'm not sure it is not I don't believe we're discussing a binary whether it's located or downtown. This council, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought we had a clear understanding that the public facing functions of City Hall, a good number of them, would take place in our downtown campus in this essence, be the center of this civic square, meaning our council chambers, community center space, obviously we talked about having a council chambers that was a flex space, so it wasn't only used for the X hours a day for downtown. So that's downtown. With that, naturally, it would require, it would be logical to have a number of functions that relate to attending meetings downtown. Perhaps the clerk's office, if we're downtown, you naturally have some management downtown, attorney's office, clerk's office. Those, I thought we had clear consensus that those functions would remain downtown. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I mean, that's the conceptual plan. I would urge my colleagues to reserve judgment until true feasibility studies and cost estimates are done. I think as with any project, this is what we're planning. I don't disagree, this is what we're all planning. But once these construction numbers come back and these estimates come back, I think it's still open for discussion and I think there's still time for there to be discussion. Okay. Does anyone, I don't agree with Mr. Wigger respectfully and I don't believe we did. So if we're all in agreement, then I think that's an issue that I think we ought to deem settled at the time being and let staff plan accordingly. Mr. Thompson. I was going to say I will keep my mind open on that. I was of the opinion that most of the Facilities that you mentioned would include pretty much the critical mass downtown. But if staff comes to conclude that there is some better reason to have it elsewhere, I would be open to that. So I guess I maybe want to split the difference and say, I'm going to keep an open mind on that. But for purposes of planning going forward, remember the interim plan hasn't been developed yet. As part of this discussion we're going have tomorrow and ongoing. I'm going to keep an open mind on that issue. As an act was? As well. I'll keep an open mind. I would like a lot of the forward facing as you said, everything you said, the city council chambers turned into a flex space. The things that folks are already used to going downtown for, I think a lot of those things can, there needs to be at least some space for some of those things downtown. Of course, with technology, there's going to be some, there's going to look a little different, maybe, you know, maybe we do some of the things online, but, yes, I would still, I still would like to have a, as what we can in the downtown. I understand the cost of the feasibility. If it gets extra, extravagant and it's not a wise way to spend taxpayer dollars, yes, then we will find that out and we'll make that choice. But I would like a lot of these forward facing conveniences that people are used to getting, whether it's a small substation again like we're doing with the police station or you know place to get a permit, a place to ask questions, a place to you know some people like to interact face to face with other people and not do everything online. I think we still need to keep some of those services in the downtown. Mr. Rucker. Thank you Mayor Singer. So yes, I agree with Mayor Singer when we saw this plan that we're getting updates on. And I understand Mr. Wigter, Mr. Thompson's ability to keep an open mind and feasibility. But when I envision this, we've the Vision City Hall, Government Center, and certain things that just belong to the downtown. From the very beginning of our conversations months ago, police station would be moved to our midtown or whatever we call that area and we would have a substation. There are certain things that need a substation but when you look at these government centers throughout the country, throughout the state, your city hall, your government center, a lot of that has to be interfacing with we already discussed with the public, which is that's gonna be the area for our government center. That's what we're calling it. The bright line is there. It's close to obviously a rail for in and out and then you'll have all the other facilities. But I understand where you're coming from. If you're moving all these facilities now, temporary to an area, maybe they can be housed there, but maybe there's a better question for Mr. Brown. We had said that we would figure out what belongs in this area, which I'm referring to Midtown, and that might be not the right use of that term. And then there are certain things that just belong in the downtown. But when I look at the government center, I would like to see City Hall there. I would like to see our complex there. That is what we've envisioned. If we're going to change that, then that's a different conversation. Because that's what conversation we've been having up to this point. So I understand. that we're going to be able to see our complex there. That is what we've been vision. If we're going to change that, then that's a different conversation. Because that's what conversation we've been having up to this point. So I understand the feasibility. I understand that we're looking at other space. So if we're deciding that we're going to change that, we need to be really clear how we're doing that. Because we're telling the public of what I'm calling the original plan, the original conceptual plan. And I think it's really important that we don't create confusion, especially that we're having these town halls and these open sessions and forums and public input that we know the conceptual plan will change, but the essence of the plan can change fundamentally. It will confuse the community, and it won't, it won't build well with us. It won't get our project moving forward, if that makes sense. So if that's a larger conversation, then let's have it. Because if not, we need to be sure that, yeah, conceptually, it might look differently, but the essence of the plan has to remain the same, in my. I do think having had this conversation multiple times before and again today, I think we are saying the same thing just a little differently. Let me try to recap what I'm hearing so I can make sure all five of us are aligned. There is, there was consensus then, there is still consensus now. The city hall and the concept of what city hall is, the public space, the meeting for four, the forum for meetings, and hopefully flex space as well, and a variety of functions that serve the public, not necessarily all of them, because they're not all there now right now, will remain in our downtown as an integral part of the campus. The question is what the scope of that, while obviously an X-speed for a chamber, we'll need X-speed for some core offices for the functions that really belong where the meetings are, or attorney management, some public payment windows and the like, and need not be the only one. There's ex-square feet that we'll have to remain downtown. I think the discussion is of the additional uses, YZAB, we can be able to parse out and no more after we get temporary space in. But for now, staff has been planning for an X which we communicated to our potential partner of 80,000 square feet of reduction in estimate from the original one and that may further morph. Did I state everyone's understanding generally They work correctly? Yes, Mr. Thompson, yes, by Mr. Nathlis, yes, by Mr. Waker, yes, generally yes, okay, generally, but again, remember just as you just said it was the initial discussion was 162,000 square feet and now we're looking at 85,000 square feet. This is something that is a work in progress, right? And so there's an analysis there that I'm hoping this staff can take, especially when there's something that we've discussed, which is that the majority of our municipal workforce does not live in the municipality. And for them to be in a more convenient centralized location adjacent to the tri-Rail which might be more affordable, closer to the highway, might be better for human resources and I am hopeful that the staff and my colleagues will consider that for the future of the city as we adapt and grow and analyze and maybe AI helps us do things. I walk around the downtown all the time, I walk around the government buildings, and I've walked around the downtown permit building. In most respects, you're not allowed to walk into the permit building and submit plans for permits. You must submit them online. You're not allowed to bring in plans to the permit department. So the way we do municipal business is changing. And so again, we don't need a place where contractors are driving their trucks all in to the building department because they're not allowed to bring the plans there. So being adaptable to this future, the innovation that's happening in just governance and how we do things online and whatnot. As Ms. Nacla said, it's just something I hope I can appreciate too. And with all due respect, I agree that to have our public facing, to have that be a center core and it's historic pace across from its original, original town hall will be a beautiful thing. And I'm totally in favor of that. And Ms. Drucker's concept that it should be with with those in mind With also analyzing how the city has changed and grown over the last 100 years is important to Especially how we provide services, right? So to recap I'm more convinced we're all saying the same thing just a little slightly differently core functions downtown including city all chambers including city council chambers and other public meeting chambers I believe staffs in in planning for that. If I may note one correction what was said it was not the council whoever came to consensus on 162,000 square feet nor was it who we came to consensus on 80. I think staff has been continued to shoot for estimates based on what we're saying. And I think we're all willing to consider some of the non-core functions as things adapt if they're going to go there. I will add one more note. The plan as we discuss with Tara contemplates some housing for city employees as part of their allotment which may also impact the desirability of having more employees live there or their desire to live there, to work there and live there too. But all of these are important considerations, which is why I'll turn to you Mr. Lukaesik, who wanted to say something anyway, how are we doing in terms of estimates as we go forward in terms of our space needs? I know when we get into space we're going to have some, but we're probably going to need a shoot for a tighter number or more clear range even before we start occupying that space. Great question. So we are right now in the process of taking a look at, we've already looked at industry standards but now we're going to have a greater internal dialogue and look at other opportunities where we might be able to reevaluate how much square footage we actually need. So two things are going on there. One is that we're going to do a high level look at it. But then, secondarily, we're going to try to utilize sensors and other mechanisms where where we can kind of track how we're using our facility, especially when we're in our temporary space. So we can have a better understanding of what space do we actually need. And that might involve ultimately some change in terms of how we're operating and what some of our policies are as it relates to how we work. So we're going through that process right now. I don't have a timeline for you as it relates to exactly when we'll get to that place, but we're going through that process right now and CBRE is a partner with us and that as well. Okay. For the questions, Mr. Wigher. Yeah, no, thank you for that. Along those lines, again, being in the commercial real estate industry for many years, you might find that some of the potential suitors who can house some of the municipal employees, whether it's temporary or long term, as you said, will be very helpful in helping the plan or doing some conceptual space plans with this. Because again, it's a win-win, right? It's providing the temporary and or permanent basis for us and a financial benefit to them. So I'm sure if CBRE reaches out to these potential suitors that they'd be happy to participate. And of course, they might not do exactly space planning for municipal organizations, but they've done space plannings for entities that require 50 to 85,000 square feet before, many, many more times than we have. So let's rest on the, you know, rely a little bit on the private sector that has significant experience on this to help us. And I think they'd be happy to. Thank you. May I ask one other question, please? So doing some economic analysis on the options that we have available, you know, when we started, we were looking at, hey, we'll have everything out of the downtown or we'll have everything downtown. I'm assuming we can narrow that scope so that we can more do that analysis. We can think about, hey, here's the public facing components that are going to stay downtown and that's going to be a given. And then if there are some other pieces that we think from an operational perspective that they should move out of town, we should be thinking about that. Is that what I'm hearing? Yes, but in my conversations with Mr. Brown and based on those that we've had at the day before, I thought that was already the direction we were going that we knew it wasn't all or nothing. It was some downtown and maybe the rest downtown, maybe the rest not. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that I was on the same page with you. Okay. Thank you, Claire now. I do feel that I'm not thank you. I also followed with the question to you sir after mr. Wigter's point I believe The suggestion to have the private sector and C.V. R.E. look at Space planning and perhaps they offer their insights as a potential landlord, I'm sure they've been motivated to do so. Are isn't CBRE doing this already? And maybe they can speak and can't answer. Can you represent? CBRE already working. We've consulted with CBRE. We've done our own studies. Are isn't CBRE already doing what Mr. Wiggard suggested, which talking with potential partners. We're working with them on that now. All right, very good. All right, questions further? All right, thank you. If there's no further questions, then we'll over off the floor to public comment. Ms. Mora, would you like to speak now? And then anyone else after her. It means give your name to the press. If the city's objective is just to make money. Ms. Moore, could you use the microphone so everyone can hear you and please give your name to the press. It's the whole audience more. Okay, thank you okay if the city's objective is to make money palm beach gardens just put in the newspaper that they're going to knock down 12 pickle ball courts and move them they're going to knock down a skateboard park and they're going to move it but they're going to build a $40 million dollar ice skating rink something beautiful and do more recreation in their city. Now that's a lot. Do you give your name and address though please? Your name and address can you share it please it's required or I can read it for you. Okay. Your name and address Judy. Oh, 1305 Northeast. Yes, I've been to multiple meetings and I've been to City Hall many times. Judy Moral, 1305 Northeast Fifth Avenue. I've lived here 35 years. I have three children. I have two grandchildren that are teenagers and we like to play tennis. That's pretty obvious. And I'm on a tennis team. And I was talking about the city of Palm Beach Garden is making more recreation, grand recreation. So if you wanted to do something grand in Boca Raton, and give us a name rather than just concrete more development. Maybe you should build a warm-in stadium for a ten-day professional tennis event just like they exactly like they have in Del Rey. They have 14 courts for the public and they have an 8,000 seat stadium and they make millions of dollars with TV, ESPN and it's only 10 days of traffic. This government redevelopment project with 1,000 to approximately 8,000 new people, they're going to need more tennis. So what I've been doing, I'm not just one person, well I am one person, but I've talked to over 250 people personally. I have over 250 signed petitions. My petition states exactly this. Petition to say Boca Raton Tennis Center, 271 Northwest Boca Raton Boulevard, Boca Raton Florida, 33432, 561 3937978. We, the people, want to keep our tennis courts for residents of Boca Raton, Florida, at the same site to walk, to ride our bikes, and to play tennis in East Downtown Boca Raton. This site of Boca Raton, tennis center was built and opened on February 26, 1966. 1992 Boca Ratca Raton Tennis Center won an Outstanding Tennis Center award. Together, Boca Raton residents can keep our Boca Raton Tennis Center at the same site, making an outstanding facility again and a lot landmark as well. people sign they print their name They sign their name they put their address they put their date of birth and their email is optional And I have over 250 of these and and that's that and and that's why I made That's why I made this. Ms. Morrill, your time has expired. Could you please conclude? But. Okay. Okay. And I had nine questions that I sent to you and to all four of the council members and I haven't gotten back an answer. So it says 47 seconds on there. That means you're 40 now 50 over. No. Yes. Okay. Okay. Well please respond to my email that I sent to all of you because those are very important nine questions. Right. Ms. Morrell, thank you. I will note, you might want to check your email. You mentioned this to me on Friday. I did respond to your latest email over the weekend as well. and others too, I've said that you haven't seen. But I will ask this, if you have those petitions, would you like to leave a copy with the city clerk so we can see them yes I would like to see a copy of your answer to my eight or nine questions no yes but no my question was you have a petition would you like to give a copies to the city clerk so we may see your petition yes and, and tomorrow I will count them and bring all of them. Thank you Because that's what people want. Thank you Anyone else wish you to speak on the government campus? Mr. Anjane you can go ahead Jonathan NG and 6501 Congress Avenue. So what I heard originally when you were selecting a dance partner or whatever you called it, it was you were picking a partner and not a plan. So I think it is good to keep things open minded on the taxpayer dollar. Maybe it does make more sense to put other things in the city's center as opposed to necessarily even in this area that's very far north or that area that's very far south. But what I'd like to mention is again back to this plan in relation to state bill 102, 328, and House Bill 991. So in regards to that, a large portion of the government campus isn't in the downtown. So how many units are you looking to build? How many acres do you have? Is that under 20 units an acre? Or is it that this plan is different that they get treated differently than the rest of the town? So I'd like to, and again, you're given money. The state gives money for 102, 328, all these house bills. This city gets money. So maybe in regards to the allocation, and you say how well you manage your money and the CRA and everything else. You've taken state money to, in essence, have zero projects that are under state bill 102 or 328. There's no 40% affordable housing project in this city. There's been a bunch of the 10 or the 15% conditional project, but nobody's taken you up on that because again it's not even economically feasible. So the reality is this city isn't perfect. They have interpreted things that the legislators, attorneys, land use attorneys have disagreed with in regards to the downtown being exempt, that the DDIRI is exempt. I think I've heard at every single one of these downtown projects how many people are against it, whether they don't want it to block their view, which again isn't, you don't have any right to a view. But the reality is, is the downtown doesn't want to see more development. It doesn't make sense to continue to develop on two lane roads that are very, very, very, very, very congested. One lane road in many places. So I'm just continuing to come up here to give you something to think about that. Somebody takes the bull by the horns and says, okay, maybe we need to look at where the future of this town is, development wise, not continuing to oversaturate. And also something else I heard about the bright line in relation to the government center. There's no other stops in Boca Raton. So anybody coming for a building permit or anything else? They're driving. They're in this area. They're not taking the Bright Line from Fort Waterdale to go to this city government center to go to the government offices. So again, it's for the city of Bokar. Last I checked, there's no other Boka retone stops on the bright line. So let's look at the reality of what we're looking at. Instead of making excuses for why to shove it down everybody's throats. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak on the government campus? Ms. Colas? I'm going to be leaving a comment in reference to the two previous presenters before me. Ms. Moral had made an interesting comment in which she stated that you guys are interested in making money. So I'm going to state that there is a possible way of actually utilizing intelligent police officers like I've listed to actually increase funds for you guys and for development in the Boko Raton area. I had referenced this last month in February where there is a model that I have called, which is like a ph-styled capitalism, where essentially you would have intelligent individuals, cybercops so-all actually generate funds that can be used to increase development as Miss Moro and also the previous gentleman had stated. In addition to this, they had mentioned how you guys should look into possibly increasing development in other areas of Boca Raton. I am also in agreement of this. I live in the west side of Boca. I don't necessarily want development there, but I think there are certain areas that could be, could receive a little bit more development as well. For example, most people, like at least when I came to Bokeh, I came for FAU. So around the FAU area, doing more stuff around there, possibly around the mall. They're possibly around the mall and a couple other places too and I Believe last month there was a reference to possibly concentrating development in T.O.Ds which I believe councilmember Wigger had mentioned before I am for this at the police. I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's what I think that's I'm just wanting to comment about my understanding is that with the City Hall redevelopment project, the skate park at Tim Huxold will be demolished as part of that. I'm here to just voice support for if that's the case replacement. I've heard that there's talk of including a project that the North Park development. I found out last minute on my way here that there will be a meeting tonight at 515, I have from an understanding of the Park to Recreation, but I won't be able to attend that. So I just wanted to voice my support of if you're going to remove the skate park at Tim Huxold, please consider, strongly consider creating a new modern free park in that area. My family skateboards, there's lots of other skateboards in the community around here. When we want to go skateboard, we typically have to go to Miami, to Boyne Beach, elsewhere. Lots of skate parks in the South Florida area have been closed down, including Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs, and others. If you're looking to bring people to your community, it's a great way to bring people here. They will travel to go to a world class skate park, especially one where you don't have to pay, including paying in cash as the current Boocca skate park is, which is a major problem for people just coming to do a recreational activity. And also one that is not limited to very strange hours, opening at noon, for example, on a weekend. You should make the park open. There's lots of examples of that in other cities around Florida and South Florida. Look at Boine, look at Tamrac. There's many other examples of that, a lot of 11 in Miami. So just here to voice my strong concern. I've been to a few other redevelopment meetings and workshops where there are lots of other supporters for this, you know, for skate parks in the area. And I don't want us to be left out as the Tim Huxle park is removed from the city hall development complex. So thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? Last call for public comment? Mr. Adele, Ms. Moro, since you're here, and we don't have any, I don't see any softball players in the audience. turn it to Mr. Brown who can update everyone as we've been doing that our plans are to replace recreation. Whether on the site near the site or throughout that we're looking at a variety of options. And Mr. Brown, can you share please with us? Correct. Just to reiterate on softball, we've worked with the Beach and Park District, the softball fields that are at Memorial Park today will be replaced as sugar sand park will actually be three, perhaps four with a clubhouse, et cetera. So there will be a much better facility for softball than we presently have. With regard to tennis, downtown, and the skate park is our intention to replace what we have. It will not may partially be downtown in terms of tennis. As far as the skate park goes we want to as Mr. Adele said we're looking toward creating a more modern skate park something that's a little less of its era than what we have now. And I think it's also called a pump that goes with the actual skate things I don't skate obviously. We are hoping we are planning to work with the Beechin Park District to incorporate that on the west side of Second Avenue up in North Park. There may be a time period where we do not have a skate park, but we will have one as part of our plans. Thank you. All right. Now under future agenda matters and items of public concern We have the presentation of the annual investment report Mr. Brown. I see Mr. service mr. service as a way conahan on financial services department will present the annual investment report I don't think you Mr. Cunahan, our Treasury manager will be presenting this item. Mr. Cunhand. Justine members of Council, I'm here to talk about how we performed with the city's investment portfolio for the fiscal year 2024, period from October 1 to September 2024. Just as a quick brief of the key principles of the investment policy, which I think we're all familiar with, but it bears restating. We are governed primarily by Florida State Statute Chapter 218, Part 4. We have adopted an investment policy most recently last September, which allowed us to invest in a slightly longer period for specifically self-anortizing government agency investments. So that was the most recent change to that policy. The priority, as always, is in order safety, liquidity, and yield. Sly. I think that went one too far. There it is. Compl compliance with policy, these are all of our adopted policy limits as well as all of the allocations that existed as of September 30, 2024. We are in compliance with all of our maximum allocation limits, which are there to ensure that we are following those three principles of safety and liquidity before yield. The majority of our portfolio right now is with United States government sponsored enterprises. That's what are commonly known as the government agencies, but they're not technically agencies. They're the Freddie Macs and Fannie Mae's and they issue a lot of sort of government debt. The portfolio issue a lot of sort of government debt. The portfolio was broken down more categorically this way. A lot of our investments in 2024 were geared towards pushing out the duration of the portfolio longer, making sure that we are protected in the case of potential ratings decreases. The Federal Reserve has been musing about how to best tackle the problem of the economy, particularly inflation and employment. It's been a bit of a roller coaster year for those decisions. The Federal Reserve has sort of gone back and forth a number of times on how they're going to approach the investment rates going forward. And at the end of fiscal 2024 rates were on a very steep downward trend. They've reversed their position a little bit in the intervening months since then. People are forecasting, people being investors mainly, are forecasting that the Fed who again they do not actually know what they're going to do are going to be keeping rates steadier, raising them who knows, but sentiment has shifted away which has a very different effect on the yields as you'll see. Throughout the fiscal year 2024, the allocations changed to more heavily-favor fixed income investing, so pushing that out longer almost entirely in what are called bullet investments, meaning that we lock in the rate for four or five years, and whichever way the Fed goes, we're guaranteed to get back that investment and that rate for the entire duration. That is reflected in this chart where you can see that more of our investments exist from the three to five year space than they have in previous fiscal years. And this is noting how the Fed has changed its targeted rates over time. The most recent fiscal year, they kept it very, very steady, but it did start to decline towards the end of the year. And you can see at the bottom there some beyond September 2024 rates where we have faced a steep decline in rates compared to where they were when this portfolio was last measured. This is a graph of how those trends have changed over time, including the peaks and troughs are all about measuring how the rates were a year prior. So the difference between the point on the chart and the immediate preceding 12 months. And you can see that we are on a very downward trend. We had a period of steep increases in the wake of the COVID pandemic and the tackling of inflation. Now that they see inflation slowing down, they're trying to reduce rates. But it's been a lot slower of a reduction than it was a rise. Now because they kept rates very steady above 4%, we were able to achieve very strong returns for fiscal year 2024, 4.28% on an amortized basis compared to the 3.09 of the preceding year. And if we look at this next slide, this is the total return, which is inclusive of the unrealized gains and losses, meaning the change in price of the investments already held in the portfolio, some of which were quite old and had different rates. Because the Fed was looking at reducing rates and in fact did reduce rates in the back half of the year, the balance of that unrealized gain or loss was very much a gain at the measurement date of September 2024. Now, that has changed a little bit in this fiscal year because the sentiment has changed the other way, meaning that rates are staying steady or possibly rising and that has an opposite impact on the health of the portfolio. I shouldn't say the health, the yields, the current returns. So while it looks very, very strong here, current year rates are looking a lot closer to the previous years in the 3% range, and that's probably where it's going to stay for a bit. This and other information can be seen in more detail with a lot more information about the nature of the risks and the durations of the various investments in the portfolio in this year's annual comprehensive financial report on the pages listed. Do you have any questions for me? Thank you, Councilor, for sending questions. Ms. Drucker first. Thank you for the presentation. I thought it was a general question. But they're interest-faring like time-depositors, our money market account, etc. Are those all over the bank, our reserves, like are those in specific banks or are those spread out? Right now the only investments in that category are the money market funds that are held to usually temporarily in our custodian bank account. We have a custodian bank that is the holder of all of the actual, like, bonds certificates, which are really all electronic these days. It is a FGF-OA-VS practice to hold all investments with a third-party custodian, and it is in our policy to do so. But because the custodian is not our primary bank, they have to do something with the cash on hand that comes from the natural flow of those investments. So all the coupons that they throw off, all of the things that we have to send to them to have money there to purchase new investments, they keep in a money market fund. And always that bank. That's a principal bank at the moment. Okay, thank you. For the question, Mr. Rager. Thank you, thank you very much. Going through this report, again, I think we can all appreciate that I diversified portfolio sufficiently, you know, sufficiently diverse, basically reduces risk. But really just a question of information is, I noticed that some of our exposure is in international investments, not just the little bonds, but some international equity, portfolios, or whatnot, and some of our pension funds and something like that And that the percentage of such funds was in one case was 11%, and another case was 21% of the total holdings. And so I guess it would be helpful to me to understand, compared to other cities and other large fund holders, is this just standard practice having between 10 to 20% our investments and international, you know, is this just standard practice having, you know, between 10 to 20 percent, our investments in international, you know, having exposure to international investments, you know, and given certain things going on in the world right now, you know, do we look at these on an annual basis and readjust them based on kind of geopolitical concerns and things like that, saying, hey, maybe we need to reallocate every year how much we have invested internationally versus domestically. Let me yell, let me. Councilman Worgherty, this report does not include pension investments. So this is just the city itself excluding pension funds. investment rules policies, guide the investment of the city's pension funds and those are overseen by each of the pension boards. This portfolio other than the Israel bonds, there are no international holdings. This portfolio also does not include any equity positions. So our investment policy does not provide for those. So I'd be curious and I can follow up with you after the meeting regarding the positions that you're referring to in the international holdings. Sure. So this is just cash on hand, bonds, fixed income, pretty much. So it is, it's it's largely Mr. Conehand mentioned yes agency bonds we do have corporate holding so we have corporate bonds but not corporate equity So there it's a it's a mix of those if you look on the first page that shows the Different buckets with the percentages of allowable allocations per the policy and our actual positions, you can kind of see those different groupings. So but yeah, it's mostly fixed income type holdings over a five year period. And we work to, you know, we've been working this year to diversify those holdings time-wise so that we have a regular maturity ladder occurring to just reduce interest rate fluctuation risk so that we constantly have bonds maturing and we're out in the market reinvesting those funds unless we're holding them for a specific project. So this is everything that's not pension assets. So this would be include the city's general fund, but it would also include the utility fund cash, for example, would be managed through this process. So we keep enough cash on hand to meet our current obligations and anything and excess of that. We do invest over that five year window in order to generate a return for the city. But other than Israel bonds, there's no other international holding. That's correct. Thank you. And we do a much more detailed review of the individual holdings with the Financial Advisory Board. They've received this report already. And so we'd be happy to provide that more detailed report to you or any of you if you're interested in seeing that. Thank you. Appreciate it. I'd like to see it. Sure. Thank you. One small point of clarification on that, you may see if you examine our holdings and corporates that you'll see names like Toyota, which sounds like a foreign entity, but it's actually the American-based financing branch of them, the Toyota Motor Credit Corporation, for example. that's not really for an investing. For the questions, Mr. Service, my understanding is the only foreign issue debt that's allowed under state law or israel bonds is that right? I think that's left up to us to adopt as an investment policy, but our investment policy only allows Israel bonds. I believe that's correct. I'm not aware of any state statute that prohibits international bonds. Very very well. All right. Thank you. Further questions? All right. Well, thank you for the update. All right. That concludes future agenda matters. We'll turn to sitting in Azure for its Mr Mr. Brown. Just very briefly, if I completely confused everyone with my bumbling over the summer schedule before just to reiterate for today so that everybody's clear, we plan to meet on June 9th and 10th, July 14th and 15th, and August 25th and 26th. And I will firm that up again tomorrow evening. That's all thanks. Thank you. City, your new words, Mr. Killer? I have no report. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks. I'll start on my left today with Mr. Thompson for Councilmember Works. No report. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Nathlis. I just want to thank everyone for, oh, that's not for today. That's for tomorrow, the picture, but. But just thank everyone for acknowledging Florida bicycle month and for Ms. Drucker for getting out there on the bike. She's become a pro out on the bike and practice makes perfect. And for our staff for putting together the events for Florida bicycle month and Mr. Brown, thank you for supporting that as well. It's very important and we've heard time after time of how much people want to be outside and want recreation. And we continue to improve our bicycling infrastructure. And I know we have great bicycle infrastructure, but we need to continue to make it better. And I think we all are striving for that. So I just want to thank you for acknowledging Florida Bicycle Month. Thank you, Mr. Rucker. Thank you, Mayor Singer. So a few things just because we are just to wrap up a few things, but to piggyback off of what Commissioner Nakhlas just said, obviously it's Florida Bike Month and we were on the real trail this weekend, but we were also until Hasse about two weeks ago asking for appropriations for our bridge to connect El Real Trail So hopefully that will make it through this year that was one of the items that the governor vetoed last year and for us public safety is always number one on our list and hopefully we can get that Appropriations awarded to us this year and We can go ahead and build that underground tunnel to connect especially for us when we ride it. You see the deficiency in the infrastructure. I myself will be heading back for four legal cities next week to tell Hassee. I continue advocating for home rule protection. I won't get into all the details, but just bad policy. There's just bad policies preempting local government all throughout. There's just from permitting to the CRA bill, to the new allegoration of a Live Local Act. Just really bad policy. That's all I can say, but we're going to continue to fight the good fight. I also had the opportunity of being in Washington, DC last week when National League of City where I sit on the Transportation Infrastructure Committee and had the opportunity to sit with our lobbyist and discuss our future hopefully Bridaline application. I'll be meeting with staff. I mentioned it to Mr. Brown in order to advocate. I also met with Department of Transportation. I met with the Florida Railroad Safety folks just advocating in telehazzy for our federal grants and our funding and what it is that we need to do as officials. Again, the largest national league of cities ever over a thousand participants. So as we can see, it goes to show you municipal government is really under attack between the federal and at the state level. I also want to thank staff for putting together a press conference that came together really, really quickly. And it really was just a resolution. Thank you to this Council for unanimously adopting the hands-free resolution for Dory saves lives. The press conference was held on Friday. Thank you, Ms. Nakhous for joining me on Friday. And it was because the Senate built pass really quickly, and it's getting bipartisan support. So in an area where things are so divided, it's great to see that people still want to save lives. Also had the opportunity to visit a new facility and it's under the downtown. It's an East Boka called Terracotta House, which is a beautiful little art studio. We've always talked about the warehouse art studio district, public art, et cetera, et cetera. They had the first women's exhibition for Women International Month, and I asked, they asked me to go visit, and it wasn't on our calendar. It was just someone asked me, and I had the opportunity to go out there. have the opportunity make it out there, to our Cutta House, if you follow me on social media, I posted a bunch of things. I also want to congratulate the homeless coalition on Palm Beach Mayor's Ball, Ms. Nicas and I attended on Saturday. They raised what I understood of our $600,000 for the homeless coalition. It was an incredible event. I had the opportunity to sit on the host committee this year. Thank you to Mr. Brown. Thank you to Angel, our aid in the city for providing the basket. Every city was supposed to come up and provide a basket. And it was an incredible event with the Nash Vegas theme, but it was really, really, it was sold out, and was a lot, a lot of fun and that wraps up my report. Thank you. Mr. Raker. Yeah, thank you. Some of the sentiment that Mr. Raker that you said I do agree with. It is a challenge. I don't know if I would necessarily go to the point where it's bad policy. It's policy that we have to deal with in a state where in Tallahassee they make certain decisions. We might not agree with those decisions but what I've learned over the past couple years when all these bills have been coming through is that Mr. Brown and the staff and our financial team and our development team and everyone, whatever policies are created by our legislature that our staff works and implements them even though we might personally not be in favor of them or not. And I think we do the best we can adopting them. And I think the Liberal local act is one of those things advocating for SB 328 is one of those things. Our CIMD division is one of those things. What we're doing now advocating for CIRA things is one of those things. And I think, you know, what people have to realize is there's a lot of tax bills up there that could make it more difficult for us to fund things like public safety. And you know when we were up in Tallahassee the firefighters were up there too advocating because what we've learned from our financial services department is that 120% of our ad valouram taxes essentially the dollar for dollar if you go and you add it up including the fire services fee goes to public safety. So like I said there's some major decisions happening in Tallahassee. They're going to affect us and we're going to respond and do the things we have to do to protect the people and to advocate for them and to implement them and sometimes it's aggrined. We do what we have to do to help continue moving the city forward and invest wisely as we just saw from our financial services people but I'm proud of the work that we're doing and like I said whatever happens in Tallahassee we'll deal with it. Thanks. Thank you and just to pick up on that point as Ms. Drucker acknowledged at the end, some good things are coming out of Tallahassee. So it's not all bad. There are good things. There are bad things, at least from the cities. Are concerning things from the city perspective? That's why I'm glad we have all my colleagues have been up in Tallahassee recently and we have a robust effort to continue to communicate concerns about home rule and issues that impact through us, through our staff, through our lobbying team, through our fellow elected officials at various levels and business interests as well. about home rule and issues that impact cities through us, through our staff, through our lobbying team, through our fellow elected officials at various levels and business interests as well. So there are things that we try to do to ensure we maintain the quality of life we've grown accustomed to and both were thrown in making even better, which was the theme of the State of the City Address. And again, I wanted to thank city staff. And of course, all my colleagues for your partnership effort and seizing the moment as I said on Friday night but staff are putting together a really great event that I think opened up city government to our residents and stakeholders in a new way that we hadn't been doing the last few years. This was our most well attended state at the city address think we had, I don't know the final count, but in the high hundreds of people, if not four figures by the end of the evening. And I think that's just another way that we try to reach out and share a good word and be accessible as we are today, as we are often. So as you see us around town, share your concerns with us and we will be back for our next regularly scheduled meeting tomorrow at 6 p.m. With no further business for today, we are adjourned at the time of 3-10. Thank you.