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So just on the off chance that he will be able to come, I'm gonna go on and read it, but he did tell me earlier that it's unlikely he's actually out of the state on business. And so I to go on and read it, but he did tell me earlier that it's unlikely he's actually out of the state on business. And so I will go on and read it just in case. Pursuit to Virginia Code Section 2.2-3708.3 and the Board of Supervisors, Rules of Order, Supervisual Attorney requests to participate in this meeting by electronic communications. If there's a requirement of the Board of Super board supervisors, it's present in the board room. And the board has made all arrangements for the board supervisors, the turners, we heard, by all persons in the board room, should he come to the room virtually. Supervisor Luterno made this request with them, the required timeframe and the county attorney determine the supervisor Luterno requests meets the qualifications to participate remotely. The board will record in his minutes the service returner participate remotely from my hotel room in Anaheim, California due to metro related business. So he is actually doing county and regional business, but he happens to be doing it in Anaheim, California. So again, if he is able to join us, we already were ready for him, but I do not think he is and he he us, we already were ready for him, but I do not think he is and he spoke to me already about some of the things that he wanted to have relayed while we're up on this day of tonight. Two-byes or sayings is will be late. He'll be here around 5'30. Two-byes or Kirschner. Also, if he can make it and we think he will, but it would be late also, he is in, I won't say tied up in court, but his day job has been busy on an important case in another county, and so he will get here as fast as he can. So hopefully we will see Mr. Sands and Mr. Kirsten just a little bit later. Would everyone please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God in the drizzle with liberty and justice for all. Mr. Seral. Okay. I'm going to add the proclamation for Hispanic Heritage Month to tonight's meeting. I'm gonna put it on the consent agenda before I do that. I need to make a motion to suspend the rules. Is there a motion to suspend? I'll make a motion to suspend. Is there a second motion? The main second, but supervisor Bricksman discussion on the motion to suspend. Seeing there a second motion? The main second, what's the supervisor, Brick's been discussion on the motion to suspend? Seeing none, I'll be able to say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 5-0. My gosh, 1, 2, 3, yeah. 5-0-4, wow. 5-0-4. And then I will make a motion to add item R6 proclamation to recognize Hispanic heritage month in Loudoun County to the October 1st, 2024. Board of Supervisors business meeting for action. Seconded by Ms. Bricksmann. Is there anyone want to talk on this before? I don't need an opening. Anyone speak on this? Okay. I will do however a closing on this item. So in 2000, I don't even remember what it was, it was 2007, 2008, one of those years, I came in to the board when before I was, when I was just a citizen, and I asked the board at the time why they didn't do a proclamation for African American history month. My predecessor said something to me that I'll never forget, and he was completely correct. He said, well, why don't you write it yourself and then bring it to us? And I thought he's absolutely correct. Why would I ask a board to write a resolution about the community that I'm deeply involved in versus me spending time writing that resolution myself and knowing the community? A lot of times, the disability community has a saying it says nothing about us without us. So when this resolution for Hispanic Heritage Month first came to me to be put on the agenda, I denied it. And I denied it because although it was well done and was historically accurate, the resolution itself did not have people from the community who had been involved with either requesting or writing the resolution and there was not one person group or individual from Loudoun County who was part of the Loudoun County Resolution for African American History Month. I'm not going to put a resolution forward when nobody in the community was involved in writing it. In fact, I think that's really kind of rude and a little bit patronizing to the community to do that. Between the time I said no to that and today as I added, I really do want to thank, especially my, one of my staff aids, Jason, who the entire weekend worked on this resolution. He reached out to the Hispanic community. He went to the, I think it's the Hispanic Heritage Club at North Virginia Community College. He talked to a farmer. He talked to different people in the community who are now going to be here to accept the resolution and are now part of the resolution. Just so you know, I will never accept the resolution on this day is that does not come from and include the community we're talking about, ever, no matter who it is. And so there was some questions of why I said, no at first, that was why. And there was some questions of why I added it now. That is why. And especially to you, Jason, I think you sit and looking at me right now. Jason, thank you very much and thank you for all the work you did on this resolution over the course of the weekend and all day yesterday. I think you left you yesterday like it, I don't know what time. But Jason is a college student and whatever man. He is a college student and even though he was doing the stays and all that, he still worked the whole weekend reaching out to the community to get this resolution to us. And so I really appreciate it and I appreciate how this has happened today. So thank you very much and we will now add this to our consent agenda. The consent agenda is as follows. How that was the closing. All in favor of the adding this, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion will also pass 5, 0, 4. The consent agenda is as follows. Item R1 proclamation to recognize October 24, 2024 is best breast cancer awareness month. That is for approval and presentation. Ms. Brick's Femre may be down front for that one. Item R2, Proclamation to Recognize October 24. It's fire prevention month for approval and presentation. And again, the vice chair will be down front for that. Item R3, Proclamation to Recognize October, is disability empowerment, awareness month, and louding county for approval and presentation and that miss glass Who will be here very shortly by the way will meet me down front for that. She's only going to be about a half hour late Item are for a mission to recognize October 7th through October 12th 24 is national 4-H week. That's for approval and presentation. That is actually from Mr. Kirschner, but he may be late, may not be able to be here on time for that. And so if he is not able to make it, I'm gonna have Mr. Krony, who is the other Western London County Supervisor, joining me down front for that. Item R5, resolution to recognize contributions of Eugene Shield to Loudoun County, Virginia. That is from Mr. Kirschner also. That's for approval only. Mr. Kirschner is going to go on site and do that for Mr. Shield. Item R6, and when we just talked about proclamation to recognize Hispanic Heritage Month in Loudoun County, and that wonderfully is for approval and for presentation. Item 1A, appointments and confirmations. Item 2, administrative Iouns report of October 1, 2024. Item 3 proposed traffic, common measures in the Hamilton area community. Is there, I will make a motion to approve the consent agenda? Is there a second on the motion? Motion is made and second by advice to your bricksman discussion on the agenda. Seeing none, all the people please say aye. Any opposed? That motion will pass 4 on 504. And again, Missa, Missa, glass will be here very shortly. All right, let's give some of my regional updates and before I do the voice for a cause. First, I'm under the 23rd. I did I'm on the DMB Move's elected leaders committee and we had our meeting. I will say, to be honest, that meeting was not as productive as I would have liked it to be. There's just a lot of discussions right now of how to ensure that we do get the dedicated source of revenue for Metro. And it's tough, it's only tough because we're talking about three separate complete states and at least two states in the District of Columbia. And so since Maryland's money comes from the Metro from the General Fund and the district comes out of their General Fund and Virginia does it from our Metro compact counties, there is a lot of difference in how money is put forth from Metro. So it's a little bit confusing. So there's a lot of good people trying to figure it out. And in the end, we're going to figure it out and figure how to get dedicated sorts of revenue and the Metro. I just think that some of these things, sometimes watching this sausage get made just takes a little bit of a longer time. On the 26th, I spoke to my liaison from the National Association of Counties. Of course, I am the chair of NACO's Health Policy Steering Committee, and we are working to craft the legislation and goals that NACO will put before Congress. NACO is the voice to Congress on behalf of counties. I do want to thank Justin, Hennessy, and Chris Crenthine, because what I'm learning very quickly as I try to craft legislation to put in front of Congress is local government and federal government work very different and in local government because we're up here and we teach other off we have time to kind of just work things out and talk things through when Congress it's like you get you know you get three sentences to get in front of them that you hope somebody grasp and maybe they'll take a hold of it or maybe they're going to arm the bus bill. And I'm just not used to working like that. And so Justin and especially Chris Quintine who has had experience working in the federal government has been really, really helpful. I've only talked about the goals for this committee and the three of us did go down to NACO headquarters with them, walk through the goals, and then we had the meeting with the executive team of the Health Policy Steering Committee. And now we're doing the next steps and part of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state meeting with the data center coalition. Quite a few people actually flew in to town from the different data centers. Most of the data centers that we know already, some of the larger, more well-known data centers, the established data centers. I do wanna thank Ray Banks, who helped put together this meeting. It was a great conversation with the data center coalition. And I wanna thank the head of the day of Sonico Alishin, Josh Levy for helping the host meeting as well. They were great discussions. And finally, I want to thank, I'm actually congratulate two people, Scott Price and Randy Minchew, who are the newest inductees to the Loud and Laurels. Their ceremony was held this past Saturday. You can go on the Loud and Laurels. Their ceremony was held this past Saturday. You can go on the Loud and Laurel site and look at and watch their acceptance speeches. They were just wonderful. Loud and Laurels tries to celebrate people in Loud and who have been doing great things for many years. And both those gentlemen certainly were very important members of our community. So congratulations to Mr. Price and Mr. Minchue. All right let's do our votes for a cost today. Our voice for a cost today is walk for a mountains. Walk for mountains is an organization whose mission it is to provide support to those affected by breast cancer in the northern Virginia region. Their annual walk for breast cancer raises funds for an awareness to support women and their families through collaboration with other local groups, such as Loudens breast health network, step sisters, and our perfect warrior. Through their annual flagship event, Walk for Mountains encourages women to have the difficult conversation surrounding women's health and preventative screenings. your flagship event, Walk for Mountains encourages women to have the difficult conversation surrounding women's health and preventative screenings. And today, Nicole Clark has joined us from Walk for Mountains. Thank you for coming. We really appreciate it. Thank you for all the work you're doing. I've got a couple of questions for you. Can you just tell us how Walk for Mountains came to be? Sure. Thank you so much for having me. This means a lot that you invited us here today. It started. I was 38 years old. I had my first 3D mammogram just to make sure as a baseline. By the time I was 39, I had another mammogram and I was stage 2 breast cancer. By the time I got to Dr. Regendra, he, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, and I was a student at the time, But the walk started when the day they found my tumor was on May 1st. And I heard I was driving to work one day in this three years, almost three years after. And they said, I heard on the radio that the A-Bahn 39, 39 miles in two days, was ending in Washington, D.C. on May 1st. And I thought, okay, I hear you. I will cross the finish line on the three-year anniversary of when they found it. And my daughter and I, who then was 11, walked it with me. And with the help of my husband, and he was giving us fresh socks, because it was reigning and cold. And we did that for two years. And we went to sign up for the third year and they had partnered with another breast cancer association and so we decided to make our own walk and walk from mountains was born. I just kind of did a shout out to the community like hey what do you think and said you should do your own walk. Yeah one of my friends. Amazing. You know I'm gonna'm going to ask your question. It usually just for voice-for-cause people get their questions and they know that what they're getting. But I'm going to, you said something that I've never, ever heard a breast cancer survivor say. Usually they talk about their treatment. But you actually just said the words, my family went through treatment, which is an interesting way to say that because we don't always think of these moments as family and friend moments, but they really are. And so that statement was very powerful because I've never heard anyone say that like that before that your whole family does that. They do. Because your whole family is there with you the whole time and they get front row seats to the really awful show. So I had six months of chemo and a bilateral mastectomy and it was six surgeries and so they got to see me go through all of that and they helped me through it. My community helped me through it. My church helped me through it. My community is still helping me through it, my community helped me through it, my church helped me through it, my community is still helping me through it. Okay, what kind of resources does Walk for Mountains and this community partners provide to people who are affected by breast cancer? Okay, so our Walk, one of the greatest parts I love about my Walk is for our family that we put together is that we have a 3D mammogram band right there on site and I always joke with people like hey you're not going to get ice cream or magnolia's at the middle and beer and wine after you get your mammogram at the doctor's office so why not have it at walk for mountains you don't have to take the day off of work and you can just have it right there at the event. And thank you, Miss Randall, for drawing attention to that a couple years ago and getting your mammogram with us. I appreciate it. You walk away. 3D mammogram and there are 50% better rate finding breast tumors. So I always promote 3D mammograms. And it was very private. It wasn't, it felt like I was in a doctor's office or somewhere. It was just fine to do it like that. Yeah. And then you get ice cream. And then I get ice cream sandwich. I do it. So, and then we also support our foundation, funnels into three charities. Like you talked about, it's Loud and Breast Health Network, step sisters and our perfect warrior that was started by a couple of our woodgove girls that we're super proud of. And all that money goes to people undergoing treatment right now today and they need gas cards to get the chemo. They need to pay their electric bill. They need to get their dogs walked. You I had my bilateral mastectomy, I could not lift 10 pounds, and I couldn't raise my arm past my shoulder. I mean, you think about your cupboards, you think about your child's backpack, you think about your laundry and how much that weighs. And it's a toll, right? So we need help. People need their houses cleaned when they're going through chemo, because they're immune deficient at that point. So that's what we do. So it's, you know, I am so humbled that you're in the room with this. I'm just, I'm just laid by you and your story. Thank you for sharing that with us. But people who want to seek assistance, What's the best way to do that? They can go to our website. It's walk four, the number four, mountainsplural.org, and they can feel free to email us, contact us, and we'll put them in touch with the people or you can go directly to the charities, and their websites are linked to ours as well. And they can get help. And what they used to walk this year? October 12th, it's next Saturday. Next Saturday. So I do believe this time is the time to sign up. I would join, we'll be joining you there. Yeah, that's wonderful. And where can the public learn more about participating if they want to help? Oh, for volunteering. Oh, through our website. They can send us an email. It's info at walkformoutines.org, and that email will go straight to me. And my daughter always helps. She's my marketing director and our fashion designer for all the Walk For Mountains merchandise. So I have to have a shout out for Jordan, my baby girl. And my husband, he's the president, and he always takes care of feeding everyone. So it's a full family affair. We just love it. We will be joining you there. Yeah. So thank you so much, Ms. Clark, for coming in, for sharing your story, for sharing your hope. It is, I think, and you know this, of course. It is amazing and a little petrifying that in one year it had spread. You got your mammograms just one year apart. It wasn't five years, it wasn't ten years, it was one year which speaks to the importance of every single year. And also I would just like to say about my case I was 39 years old. I had zero family history. Oh gosh. Not. Okay. And everyone assumes that you know and when you fill out those doctor forms, they always ask. And it's not without good reason. They want to know your family history. But then you make the assumption that, oh, I don't have family history. So it's probably not cancer. And that's what I was thinking the whole time. Well, 85% of breast cancer patients have no family history. I didn't know that. And it seems to be getting younger and younger every year. So first thing Dr. Regender put me on was vitamin D. Vitamin D deficiency. They are finding out is a cause of a lot of cancers. So please check that for all of you. Ms. Clark, thank you very much. And we will see you on the 12th. All right. Great. Can't wait. Thank you very much and we will see you on the 12th. All right, great. Can't wait. Thank you. Okay, wow, that was amazing and inspirational. Mr. Hemstreet, do you have any comments this evening? Thank you, Madam Chair. I've got four comments for this evening. The first is that Loudoun County residents are encouraged to participate in the county's 2024 Community Survey, which is now online at loud.gov slash survey. As you know, we periodically survey our residents to get their feedback on government services, the county's quality of life, and priorities for government initiatives. Following the analysis of the responses, the results are expected to be presented to the board by the end of the year. The survey will be available online through October 21st. Second, the loud and innovation challenge presented by the Department of Economic Development and the Economic Development Authority is back for 2024. The challenge has a new virtual format and new opportunities for local entrepreneurs to showcase their ideas and compete for a piece of $70,000 in prize money. There are four categories this year. Those are clean technology, cyber defense, highly specialized manufacturing and life sciences. The previous Agra Tech category has been integrated into all categories this year, giving Loudon's agricultural entrepreneurs more diverse opportunities for showcasing their ideas. The deadline to apply is midnight October 9th, for more information and apply for the challenge visit loudininnovationchallenge.com. Third Virginia Cooperative Extension Loudin invites livestock forage and row crop producers in the county to participate in a roundtable discussion on October 24th at 6 p.m. at the Loudin County Fairgrounds. The goal of the event is to provide extension office personnel with a deeper understanding of the perspectives and needs of this community in order to provide relevant and effective programming. No registration is necessary, any questions can be emailed to extension at Loudon.gov. And then finally, the 4th annual novel expressions art contest is underway. Teens and adults in Loudon are invited to submit an original work of art inspired by a piece of literature. The contest is presented by Loudon County Public Library, the Department of Parks, Recreation and Community Services, and the Youth Advisory Council. The design to enter is October 15th, information about the contest and how to enter, maybe found at library.loudin.gov. So my comments this afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Himstreet. Vice Chair Brickman, I am super visors. I'm pretty sure Mr. Himstreet missed something this time. Don't you think he did? Yes, yes, I think he did. I think he did too. I think he did. Turner, I think he did. Miss Glass, I think he missed something. Don't you think he did? I think he did, yes. I think he did too. I don't know. I think I remember. Very important thing. If my memory serves me, Mr. Himsrey just received acknowledgement and accommodation for a kidding, 30 years from ICMA for being a county exec in that budget memory serve I think so and and because of that the supervisors all got together and got something that we really think is going to be so important for Mr. M. Tate. Mr. Rogers would you come grab this and give it to Mr. Himstery. Because I think everyone should see what you get when you work 30 years in county government for like the officials. Would you get that to help please Mr. Rogers? Thank you so much. But I just think everyone should see what you need after 30 years of working with county government and elected officials. So how about you just let everyone see that right now? This is true, only. Thank you. Let the camera see is so stand-conceived. It says just one cup of coffee. I can spend the meeting behind a cup now, too. Seriously, Mr. M. Trey, your expertise of professionalism, your help, your memory, your kindness, your intelligence is so appreciated by this staff in this county and I don't know if everyone in this county really knows how much you do but we are lucky to have you. You are remarkable servant so thank you so much. Thank you, Jaron. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the morning. Okay. We have one information item this week. It is chapter 872 and 873 of the codify ordinance. Would everyone please come down front? Well, you know, all the important people need to be here for this, yes. Good evening. Good evening, Madam Chair. Glad to be here coming forward from the Finance Committee where we made, took an information item to them. The Board, the committee members asked for some additional information. For everyone's benefit this evening, the board supervisor made some changes to the ordinance for tax relief for the elderly and disabled in 2021. It asks my office to bring forward information concerning changes in the consumer price index, real estate assessments, and household income for the community so that the board can consider making changes to the qualifying criteria for the program. When the board last made changes in 2021, they increased the limits for household income by 6.5%. During our presentation to the finance committee, the members asked us to bring forward some additional information and that's included in your item today. The committee members were interested in knowing the number of parcels per income and net worth bracket and you'll notice that in table one. The vast majority of folks that qualify for the program receive 100% exemption. You'll see that on page two. to their income bracket zero, I'm sorry, net worth of zero to 440,000 and income up to $77,000 for household income. Additional information that the Finance Committee asked for was the annual increase in median annual income for county residents since 2021, the last time that the Board of May adjustments to the income criteria, you'll see that in table five on page four, year by year. You are also interested in how we compare with other neighboring localities. And that's shown in table six, and you'll see the income and net worth criteria. We are still, I would say, the most generous of our neighboring localities regarding that information. I would absolutely say. Yes. And then the comment was made when the Finance Committee was having a discussion about being provided real estate assessment information solely and the changes year over year in that and they were interested in knowing what were the changes in the actual tax bills for property owners and you'll see that information in tables seven and eight and you'll see the change in real estate assessments for the properties that are in the program overall and the properties that are qualified for tax relief. And then the tax bills are shown in table nine and ten. For broken down by property type, condo townhouse single family. The table 9 shows you the percent change in tax bills for the county over all based on property type. And 10 shows the percentage change in real property tax bills for the folks that are already participating in the program. And I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much for this extra information. It was very much appreciated. Supervisor, there is no action that tight to this right now. It is just an information item so we can all get familiar with the additional information that's been provided. But I do, I think Mr. Turner, I think you're the one that asked for some of this additional information. Do you have questions, sir? I do. Okay. The table, I assume it was the table six that you referenced in that we are the most generous of the comparator jurisdictions in northern Virginia. Yes. I would submit and that would be interesting your opinion on but that is only relative if we compare the average median income within those comparator jurisdictions. Yes. Because I suspect our average median income in Loudoun County is substantially higher than all of those comparator jurisdictions. Would you agree with that? It's possible. That's probably accurate. Okay. I have read this three or four times and I'm still confused. There's a section here where you say we already apply the CPI on an annual basis and then there's a section that says we only review it manually every four years. So I'm really confused. I mean my desire would be that the program automatically adjust based on the CPI every year without having to have it sit stagnant for four years and then have us take action to somehow catch us up over those four year periods. What are the pros and cons of that approach? Well, the reason there's a provision in our ordinance that allows an adjustment to only a portion of the program based on CPI, that's why it's mentioned in the item. It's for real property that is owned with someone who is a relative and does not meet the quality. So that's the own relative and does not meet the qualifying criteria. So that's the reason that you don't ask back to the program that it's CPI. Correct. And the reason it's mentioned in there is board members have discussed in the past that they may be interested in adjusting income based on CPI. And the reason it's in there is to let you know you have the opportunity to make adjustments automatically in your ordinance based on that type of criteria. What would be the steps we would have to take from this point forward to affect that or at least make a motion to do that? It would be an ordinance amendment. That would come up during budget discussions or- It could come up now if you're interested in making changes to the program effective January 1 of 25. You'd need to do it before the end of the year. I would, if you don't mind in your time, I would say that what would probably be helpful is that you sit down and anyone who wants to have the discussion and talk to your office to make sure we gather out the information that needs to be gathered, talk to Mr. Himfstreet and then kind of put it together like that. That's what I would. And would it come in the form of a board member initiative? Is that we craft a motion? It comes as a BMI or how would that work? There's some. It could, but Mr. M Street. Yeah, so there's a couple ways of work to do this. The one could be you could draft a board member initiative placed on the agenda. The other way that this could be done is we do have some budget development items coming up through finance. You could ask as part of one of those items, just say, I'd like to add this for budget consideration. And as long as your colleagues are OK with that, so perhaps part of the formal budget. I understand that. But the chair of the finance committee is on record is really not liking that idea so Budget guidance for example goes from Finance to the board and so when it's before the board you could also bring that up during that item and That as long as there's consensus from the board. Okay. Yeah, just give anybody who's on finance. Yeah, all right. Thank you Miss Amstet. Thank you Madam Chair. So I think it was a couple of years ago. I was under the impression that the board had already directed that the CPI increases be incorporated automatically. But what I'm hearing tonight is that is not the case. Correct. OK, what did we fail to do that? I thought we were on track to do. We just never got around to an ordinance change. No, you adjusted the ordinance, but you asked that my office bring forward information every four years. Okay. And so that's what prompted our bringing this information to you. All right. So I think supervisor Turner expressed a potential discrepancy in the staff report, which on the one hand indicates that every year we look at this, but on the other says it's only every four years. So is it only every four years? We are bringing the information to you every four years. Okay. All right. I'm sorry for interrupting the one provision that's in the ordinance is relative to a change in CPI that's automatic. It's one of the qualifying criteria. It's one small provision of the program as a whole. It does not apply to the entire program. All right. Do you finally? Do you have? Do you find this attempt to apply CPI changes to this particular program to be more challenging because home prices might be going up more in this county than the average CPI increases across the economy. Does that present you with more problems? I don't think it's a problem for my office because we can apply whatever percentage calculation results from that change. I think the board needs to be cognizant that the resulting loss in revenue may be one, not what was anticipated. All right, that's very helpful. Thank you. Mr. Croney. Thank you, Chair Randall, and thank you, Mr. Warts. So I do, I would support automatic adjustments. I do remember when Supervisor Amstead brought forward a BMI, I think that was the intention versus every four years. I remember that. So question that I have is in the application for tax relief, it states that the value of a residence up to 10 acres is excluded from the applicant's net worth. So in the rural part of the area, there are many properties that are over 10 acres and some families have owned the property for generations, but at the same time, you know, maybe kind of priced out of Loudon. Do you think the 10 acre limit, kind of limits participation potentially and kind of unfairly disadvantages that part of the county? I don't believe we've seen that too much. We try to counsel property owners relative to the qualifying criteria. So we normally wouldn't have applicants that make individual property owners make application if they're not going to qualify. I haven't seen that that's a significant hindrance for individuals to qualify for the program. It does add some additional net worth to their criteria. Okay. Thank you. That was a question. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. I have been feeling somebody's going to be reaching out to you pretty soon. Yeah. I was going to say Madam Chair and Board members Rob Drake who helps administer the program in the office, one of my deputies. He or I, it'll be fine for you to reach out to either of us. All right. All right. Thank you for wearing the pen today. Appreciate you. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. Next thing, we can go on then and do some action items, because we're running plenty ahead we're not ahead of schedule but we're not running behind schedule either. So is everyone here for the DPC work plan? Can you come down? Like you guys are like your prices right up fast you're coming there right now like we can go home. How are you? I know. I did notice that. We are doing well. And as a pull-up presentation I will note that Jackie and I did not coordinate wearing yellow, however, we are. This one. Happy to bring some sunshine on the table. We are impressed, though. Okay. Mr. Turner, when this is over and questions are over, I'm going to go to you as T. Luck chair for a motion. If that's okay, sir. Mr. Chair, okay, wonderful. I'm ready when you are. Thank you. I'm chair and members of the board. This is our quarterly update on the Department of Planning and Zoning Work Plan. We have previously been to you most recently in April and July. And if you've read through the item, you'll note that there are a number of minor changes for number of ongoing items. We currently have 21 items listed, 21 rows, we'll put it that way, 21 rows in the three tables here. Of those 13 projects are currently active, so we do have a lot going on as I know you are all aware. So a number of those have been happening. There have been some small changes in expected completion. And there is one project that I definitely want to focus on with you all tonight about the data center project phase one and phase two. But I'm happy to answer any questions for anything else other than that even if I don't highlight it in my comments Why don't you go yeah go on and we have finish it and then we can talk to questions So overall we'd stoic amend keeping all these projects here keeping them at their priority level So the motion prepared the packet would do so for you Our two biggest projects that are currently ongoing are the Western Loudon, Rural Uses, and Standards, which the board just approved the project plan for recently. The other is the Data Center Standards and Locations that Bipore Motion was broken out into a Phase I and to a Phase II. Phase I, as you were called, minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. I'll give you a few minutes. centers would and would not be appropriate. It was to change data centers from any other use listing in the general plan to a conditional use. And the third was to make data centers a special exception in the three current zoning districts where they are by right. Those three were the only three things that were included in phase one. We were in front of you in July for some confirmation on that. The board did make some changes for the mapping component of that, but otherwise directed us to forward that to the planning commission for hearing, which we have done. Phase two, it was to look at all any other policy or regulatory matter beyond those three things. So it's that's intention to kind of go back and look at what was adopted last December with the new ordinance to see if there's anything that might need a tweak, if there's anything that was missing, and also just to look from a policy perspective to make sure we have adequate policy to support anything that's in the ordinance now or anything that we might add as part of this process. So in September, staff briefed the planning commission at their work session, which is before their public hearing, and then they had their public hearing on phase one just last week. What I really want to highlight for the board is that essentially a number of the commissioners express some concern about limiting themselves to the three items in phase one. They, a lot of them looking at all their comments expressed desire to look at things far more holistically. I've detailed in the item I'm not going to go into this level of detail now, but a number of their questions, their concerns, their requests so that the board can kind of understand what level of feedback and concern that they are experiencing right now. And then Ms. Martian, I spoke to the Planning Commission Chair and Vice Chair earlier today actually to talk through. And I thought something that the Vice Chair said might in some ways kind of explain all of this. It's that, you know, the board and DPC staff have been having this conversation about the State Center project for years now, often on things have changed, but we've been having this conversation. So, staff and I think the board are very comfortable with understanding what the goal is, why there's a phase one, why there's a phase two and things of that nature. And the commission just is not quite there. We've tried to explain those things, in the two conversations we've had thus far, and we will continue doing so. But I think the commission's leadership overall thought that that was maybe just the biggest stumbling block was that the commission, this is still very new to them as opposed to the conversations that we've been having since the T-Lock Data Center series a few years ago. So within the project plans that DPC brings before you, the direction I've given the staff is always to build in essentially four meetings on the end of those projects when it comes time for recommendation and action. A hearing and a work session at the commission and a hearing and a business meeting at the board. The commission and board, however, are not beholden to that. It is up to both bodies to add additional meetings. They could take action at the first hearing. You have flexibility. We don't try to assume how much or how little time you're going to take there, so that's why the project plans are made that way. And I've had that discussion with the commission as well. Our intent, and I think our hope, based on the board's guidance, have been that phase one would go through pretty fast, because I know that at least the majority of the board that passed those motions wanted to take action on the conditional uses and special exceptions pretty quickly because of the concern that the board has about the speed at which data center development is happening. And the commission wants more time to consider it to ask questions to think about it. So I highlight all of that for you because at this point, a lot of the things that I've detailed in the staff report will take time but staff can address them. There were two requests from individual commissioners. One was to potentially have some sort of economic impact study done to start with before they get started so they would have an understanding of what this effect just for phase one might have. Another was to bring on a third party consultant as someone that was not as invested in these decisions both from an applicant standpoint obviously wants to go faster would love to get their approvals as much as they can. The board, whether it's data centers specifically or the external effects such as the conversations we've been having about power and transmission lines, there's a lot of stuff built into this. So the recommendation was that maybe a third party consultant that didn't come from these past few years of background would be able to be a little bit more objective as part of this conversation. I mentioned that just because we did not put funding in the project plan for either of those things. So if the board supported that and wanted to pursue them then we would need to seek that guidance from you. I think I'll pause there. That's sort of my summary overall of where things stand. We have not, the commission did send this project to a work session. They did not specify one. We had a brief conversation with leadership today and we will partly depending on your feedback. Tonight work on scheduling that work session. But I just wanted to highlight that difference of opinion and desire, I guess, from the two bodies to see if the board had any questions and guidance that you wanted to provide tonight. Okay. Thank you very much. I think there's lots of questions up here actually on the day as Mr. Turner, Chair of T. LaC I'll start with you, sir? Gosh, I don't know if there's questions. As there is commentary, but I'll try and frame it in the form of a question. So your assessment is that these data center discussions began in the spring of 2022 and have been going on almost continuously for over two years now. But the consents and I don't want to put you on the spot here, but your sense is the planning commission does not feel like they have sufficient information to be able to move forward on phase one. Yes. At least not as bad as the board. I am shocked at that. I don't doubt your assessment at all. I am shocked. If they truly do not know what has been going on for two and a half years on this subject, I'm just flabbergasted. Be that as it may. I just wanna emphasize that you're absolutely correct in your assessment of the boards intent on phase one. We have been inundated with by-right development of data centers for the last two and a half years, and we believe that an updated map and a special exception and conditional uses are the core to get managerial oversight back to the board of supervisors in this county on its most important business sector and it has a real sense of urgency. I just took a rough guess and based on the recommendations I'm seeing and the questions that need to be answered for the planning commission that would probably add three to four years to the project and That's just okay, but that's the board is that's unacceptable to this board. I believe so I just wanted to clarify if in fact and you have that that's where the planning commission is thank you Thank you mr. Proney Thank you chair Randall so I noticed that the commission was asking for the creation of a subcommittee, numerous committees of the whole sessions, having inviting numerous organizations. So what's your assessment as far as the delay that this might cause for phase one? So at the moment I've just built in a three-month edition, I think at a minimum, that's what's likely to happen. I think in individual conversations versus in this environment, I think the individual comments are a little bit more positive about their ability to move quicker than you might get the sense of your hearing, just all of the questions and commentary that comes from all of them at once. But I do think that there's just a lot of concern about taking a step that's not, that they don't fully understand the repercussions of. And they are largely fearful that if phase one was forward as it is, that they are somehow missing something that should be there now that is safe for phase two. I don't think that that's a significant concern since some of it is education. So we've offered individual briefings, we've met with some of them, we will continue trying to do so. But I just think there's a lot of concern about any unnecessary or unintended consequences of acting on phase one without additional consideration of a lot of the things that are currently in phase two. You mentioned hiring a third-party consultant. I know that we're doing, it sounds like DPC is doing some work on mapping out transmission line locations. So I assume we have a consultant for that. I think I think we do. And we actually have a consultant that was brought on board for this. And when we broke it in the phase one and phase two, we were reserving their use more for phase two and research on the policy and regulatory sections as opposed to just the mapping and these simple changes because technically they are simple. They do have larger ramifications so I don't want to anyone to misconstrued what I'm saying but from a technical standpoint it's some very simple text tweaks and a few mapping changes that we could handle in-house so that's why we were not initially using consultants for phase one Right, but I mean if they have questions about power transmission line energy Those kind of question it sounds like we have a consultant anyway helping with another project We do that maybe could help the planning commission with some of the questions Without hiring another Consulting we can if they're if they're relevant to that aspect of the conversation. Yes, absolutely. I think some of the questions go beyond just the electrical transmission concern. But yes, you're right. And some of the information we have already started to provide them has come from some of that other work as well. Right. And so I think the intent was to fast track kind of phase one and then maybe some of these issues that I saw could be addressed in phase two and it sounds like you're trying to move it that way right where we could move forward with phase one and then we wrap up with the groaning. Some of the issues could be addressed in phase two. That's how we framed it based on the discussion with the board and the board's previous motions. Thank you. Okay. I'm still. Thank you Madam Chair. Then the planning commission is its own independent entity and even if the board were to direct them to move more quickly than they are comfortable with. I am assuming they have the independent decision-making ability to take whatever time they feel they need as this is not an applicant's application or do you believe they could be unwillingly required to move faster than they want to. I knew I was going to be asked that question and I intended to have something pulled up if you give me just a moment. I sure that if you have any other questions I'm happy to talk to you now. The other thing while you're doing that is I've when it comes to aesthetics for data centers. is when it comes to aesthetics for data centers, I've spoken with some data center representatives who say they would love to be able to partner with elementary school kids and project the artwork that these kids produce in art class up on the walls of the data centers. But when I looked into that talking to county planning staff, produce in art class up on the walls of the data centers. But when I looked into that talking to county planning staff, they believed that would be prohibited currently by our ordinance. So I just, this is just a suggestion. I would hope we could examine that as we look through any changes addressing aesthetics. Dan, have you found what you were looking for? So partially, for the state code authority for conference of plan amendments, when the governing body desires the amendment, it can prepare it or can refer to the commission essentially to prepare it. And then, must limit it to public hearing within 60 days or such longer time frame, which is essentially what we've done. The commission must be in the zoning section. Under the comprehensive plan section, there's not something that specifically states here that you can limit the time. But there is a park that I'm going to try to find. I'm sorry about this. I totally intended to have this up. That you can set a deadline as part of your actions for them to consider within. If you want to get back to us on that, I don't want you to have to do that tonight. But I appreciate your effort. Thank you very much. That's all I have. Ms. Bricksman. Thank you, Madam Chair. Actually we've been talking about this since 2021. When Buddy Reiser's office came with the initial item on the mapping all, sorry if I was coughing, I made him bark. So I understand four planning commissioners have gotten a staff briefing. Do we think that that has helped at all with the understanding of what we're trying to accomplish. I would like to believe it's helped. I think any of that conversation is helpful. But as I think you all experience, planning and zoning is just not something that most people have a lot of an eight knowledge about. So there is just a bit of confusion that you think is whenever we have good conversations. I agree. First of all, I don't want phase one and phase two to be combined, which is what I read that they want to do. And I think that we would have to combine them correct at our board. We would have to combine them. They cannot combine the two items. So I think that is the board's discretion. Okay. If just hypothetically if the message back tonight was take all the time you need then we could process. That is not the message. I understand. So I think if we gave us that direction we could without, I'm only redoing the project plan or anything we could move forward in that way. I like the way we have it with the two phases separate. So that's good to hear. Does the Planning Commission have the authority to make a subcommittee? They do. Okay. Does the Planning Commission have the authority to hire a consultant? No, the money, the board would have to allocate the money through the process, usually. And as supervisor Tukroni was saying, we already have a consultant. I thought the consultant was working on phase 1, the one that we hired to accelerate the process. So whenever we first brought this, the project plan forward, when everything was combined, their work was more of the mapping and more front loaded after we split it into Phase 1 and Phase 2, their work became more of the policy and things, as I mentioned, since the technical aspect was so simple for phase one. That was just staff choice. We thought that was the best way to allocate the resources. I think it would be who everyone up here who's interested in this project getting done faster and phase one getting done faster that we call our planning commissioners and have a conversation that might be the easiest way to impart that wish. A couple questions about the rest of the work plan, if I might. What does TBD mean in the work plan? Because I don't know that the St. Louis village plan is not TBD in the sense that we think some of these other things are TBD. You'd be accurate in that assessment. It's just, it's truly to be determined in that case. I honestly do not have a good estimate for you, so that was my choice to take a time off rather than just putting an arbitrary one up there. I think we need another definition of TBD, meaning we're not going to work on it versus TBD that we actually will work on it at some point. I'm out of time, thank you. So, Ms. Glass, is your planning commissioner new from last term? Is there a new person on you have the same one? I have the same one. Okay, so that makes, so then five then. Five of the nine planning commissioners are new. So a majority of planning commissioners are new. And so I want us to be really careful that we're saying that we've been working on this since this date. We have and we were all reelected, but we then put in five new planning commissions. So for them, they haven't seen this that long. This is new for them. And so I want us to be, I want us to remember that. And I don't, you know, we, we put these people up here. And so I want to be real careful to not criticize the very people that we appointed to sit on this to be a planning commission. So, especially when a majority of them are new. I do believe that there is two things going on. You know, I always say, get it right. I'm not worried about getting it too fast and worried about getting it right. However, there's a limit to that discussion as well. And so maybe the discussion to have with our planning commissioners again who we put here, what is there, can they shorten that timeline and how we help them get there? Do they need to meet with us to find out why we made decisions we made in the past? Do they need to sit with staff somewhat? Do they need to meet with us to find out why we made decisions? We made in the past. Do they need to sit with staff somewhere? Do they need to go watch old meetings so that they understand some of the things that's already happened and how we read some of these goals in the past so that they don't feel like they have to plow the entire field again and may not know why we're doing what we did in 2021 to 2022. And so instead of kind of criticizing them, let's help them get there faster because you're right, we do not want to take the time that this is going to take. I also don't want to tell the planning commissions or my planning commissioner that they don't, that they don't get to have all the information they need to make the decisions they need to make. And so this might be some one of these moments that's incumbent on all of us to try to help people get caught up who don't feel caught up on our planning commission and so that we can move this along a little faster. This timeline's too long but at the same time I want them to know what they need to know. And so I think that's a better way to try to approach this when we have a majority of people who are not even sitting up here as our planning commission for even a year yet. The second thing is Ms. Bricksman's right, TBD does mean to be determined but I don't want to freak anyone in St. Louis out to mean that there is no timeline. We have a meeting with the, to thank the task forces the next Monday coming up very soon. And we have all been talking about this. And so we know that St. Louis will be having answers much, much quicker than some of the other ones. And I want to make sure people know the TBD literally means exactly what it means. It doesn't mean it's not on the agenda or coming up anytime soon. So that's important to say that. So I don't feel like we've given you direction. So let's try to get to the place where you feel like you have a little more direction because otherwise you all just kind of go away not having that direction. So, some of us is, is it, are we saying to our planning commissioners that we believe their timeline is a little more extended than we need it, than we'd like it to be? Is that what we're saying to our planning commissioners? Yes? Okay, as a body. Are we saying as a body that we're going to work of each of our planning commissioners to ask what they need to have to get to what they need to go faster? We saying that with each person who might need that. Sure. Okay, we saying that. Okay, then the question Mr. Galindo and everybody. The question is, what do you need from us to let you know that we like the planning commission to get what they need, but shorten this process? Just me saying that, or is it something in a motion? How do we help you get to where you want it, you need to get to with the planning commission? Because it feels like right now there is, truthfully, your answer to Ms. Amstett wasn't completely correct. We can actually pull this and kind of instruct them what to do. We can. We just want to do that in the most respectful way possible. So how do we, do you have what did you need right now from us to another we want a tighter timeline? Or do you need something else from us? Or how can we help? So I would be happy to convey that message. I do think it would be more, I don't want to use the term forceful, but it's what's coming to mind. If it was by a motion or if it was by written correspondence from the board to the commission where it was not coming straight from me board to the commission where it was not coming straight from me where I could be coloring it or anyone to leave the house. I think that's actually, I think you got that right. I think to roll this into the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the version of emotion right now be really hard. I think the better thing to do is for me to sit down to to look chair. We craft a letter for the Planning Commission. Let everyone see it and then it gets sent to the Chair and Vice Chair of the Planning Commission and then to the full planning commission as well. Might be a better way to do that because trying to craft words and emotion on the spot is never pretty. And so let's admit is that okay, would you get together and get something from the board, written? Now I will say colleagues we cannot write a letter nine people can't write a letter Right so so the chief lecture and I will work on the letter and if you see something that's just glaring or that you just think is Absolutely no, let us know, but otherwise we'll try to get a letter that includes everyone's kind of thoughts And then and then if we get five of us to sign up on that letter It's that that would be a letter from the board Even if not every single person agrees with it to be a letter from the board And then that would be sent to the chair and vice chair of the Commission and we will try to get that done Mr. Turner if we can get this done and then the next maybe ten days that would be really helpful for them Does that sound like something that can be? Yes, ma'am. Sounds good. Okay, wonderful. All right, haven't said that. Mr. Turner, I'm going to go to you for a motion. I just, if I might just appoint a clarification. Could we perhaps, we have this discussion about phase one and phase two. Would you mind if we got a consensus on the board about combining or splitting those projects and it should I believe be mentioned in the letter. Is there anyone who doesn't believe there should be a phase one and phase two? Okay. Then we'll make sure we clarify that in the letter. Sure. All right. Mr. Turner, would you like to make a motion? Thank you, Chair. I move that the Board of Supervisors approve the current list of projects listed in tables one, two, and three on the Department of Planning and Zoning Work Plan as identified in the October 1st, 2024 Board of Supervisors Business Meeting Action Item Comma with the exception of item number two, table number two, the purchase of development rights program. Semicolon, I further move that the board defer consideration of item number two, table two, purchase of development rights program to the October 16th board meeting. I will second that. It's not the way I thought it was going to happen, but sure, I'll second that. Mr. would you like to have a motion? Would you like to have an opening on that motion? Just very briefly, there's been quite a bit of discussion about the purchase development right program. I think it's worthy of additional conversation, so I'm fine with that. And I would like to acknowledge, I agree with Chair Randall's statement, which I hadn't considered that five of the planning commission members are brand new, and that does change the equation for them. And so I respect that. And then just one additional comment that I would like to see in the letter a deadline if I heard correctly that we have the authority to establish a deadline. And it doesn't have to be egregiously short, but it also shouldn't be extensively long. And I think if we have a deadline to work to understanding their old military action that a job will expand to fill exactly the time that you have given it to be completed. But still I think a deadline in a letter would be a good idea but that's to be determined. So thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Croney. Thank you. So point of clarification. The PDR part of this is being moved to the October 16th business meeting. Okay. So one thing I would encourage my colleagues to do is to meet with PEC before that meeting so you can understand kind of what we're talking about with a pilot and a phased approach to the PDR program focusing on the suburban policy area. I think it's a really good concept and I would encourage you to meet with them before the October 16 meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Brickman. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Brooksman. Thank you Madam Chair. I just want to clarify with staff because I was going to make a friendly to the original motion and I want to make sure that the motion that supervisor Turner made accomplishes what was in the friendly. So the friendly would have been to exclude the PDR project which shall be added to the October 16, 2024 Board Business Meeting for further discussion. And in the interim period between now and October 16th Business Meeting, staff is to defer any and all work toward a purchase of development rights program, including any meetings and research. So we already TBDed line item two. That's already TBD. What the friendly, my intention with the friendly, is to cease discussions and meetings and development of items about a pilot program until the rest of us can catch up, basically. So does that motion cover that or do you think you need the friendly? I'm not going to hold in because you don't need to answer that because that puts staff in a really uncomfortable position. How about you just ask Mr. Turner would he be fine with that friendly? Are you okay with that friendly? I'm not. Okay. Okay, well then she can make it in terms of emotion. Okay. Do you want to finish your comments before you make the motion? You want to make them better? Sure, sure. I guess I don't. Okay. The difference we can talk about later, but in watching the tea luck meeting I had some concerns that when we sent this item to tea luck, we had a discussion about staff not working on items and doing research for a PDR program because line item two is TBD because the majority of the board does not believe that a PDR program is the best use of taxpayer dollars and County resources to preserve the land that we're looking to preserve. So that is why I wanted that section that was written into the on page eight. I want that work and the majority wants that work not to happen until we have we have the opportunity to meet with PEC for us to decide if that's the best way forward. Shall I reread the motion? So you're actually arguing a motion that you have been made yet, right? I am so sorry. Okay. I'll go ahead and make the motion. Okay, before you do that, make it. Is it an alternate motion? No, it would be an alternate motion. the original motion first and then I'll go back to you. Mr. Turner, our mystical endolet me ask you, has the planning commission had an even discussion for the timeline for the data centers or let alone a drop dead data or a gold date they happen, right? Nothing specific. Yeah. You know, Mr. Turner, you and I are going to craft this letter so we can craft how that looks. But I don't know if I want to, I don't want to promise we're going to put a date in there yet until we talk to our planning commissions and see where they're at. It might be that we get there, but I'd like to have those discussions before we get there. And you and I can, within the next two days, what I'd like to have is everyone talk to the planning commissioners and then you and I write this letter and it's hilarious because I'm saying you and I when we both know it's gonna be more you than I. I'm gonna write this letter but let's talk about whether there's a timeline a date after we talk to them because we don't know what they need before we tell them a timeline and a date yet So I don't want to promise that yet. It might be or might not be. Is that okay? Okay. Having said that, I'm going to go to Ms. Bricksmann because now what's happening is there's an alternate motion on a motion that includes already part of the alternate motion you're going to make because the part of the ultimate motion is to table this to the next business meeting. That's already part of the motion but you can, you need to wrap that up into the alternate motion. You can. So this is not. What about the parliamentary? Well, I get what you're saying because is this a motion the table? I got you. I believe it is we asked for a motion to table that section of the DPC work plan until October 16th. This is the motion that staff gave me to table that portion. Why don't you read the part of the motion that does not talk about the fact that we're already table in it to August 16th? Because otherwise what you would be doing is making the motion the table of which there's no discussion on the motion the table and I know you want to have discussion. So, how about you read the part that does not include the August 16th part so there's an alternate motion and not a motion to table. Does that make sense? I'd be happy to offer a little assistance. I think I think the missing part is just at the end of the motion where it's not to do any work exactly that's exactly right But I need to read that as part of the motion you can read that as part of the motion. You need to read that as part of the motion. Don't you want to give me the date that the date of when this is going to be moved to as part of the motion? Otherwise you're making most of the table. Okay. Okay. So I move that what is not being done. I move that the Board of Supervisors approve the current list of projects listed in tables one, two and three of on the Department of Planning and Zoning Work Plan identified in the October 1, 2024 Board of Supervisors Business Meeting Action Item excluding the purchase of Development Rights Project. Would she- Can I help you? Yes, please. Can I have that put me just for a second? Thank you, ma'am. So something like I move that staff is to defer any and all work towards the purchase of the development rights program including any meetings and research and any item development until after the October 16th, 2024 business meeting. Maybe the motion you're trying to make right now. Until after. All right. Is that the motion you're trying to make right now. Until after. Is that the motion you're trying to make, Ms. Brickman? That's the motion I'm trying to make. Is there a second on your motion, Ms. Brickman? There's a second motion from Ms. Brickman, discussion on the motion, Ms. Brickman. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think I laid out my case earlier. Again, for me, this is not so much about staff time, although that is a little bit of a concern. It's more of a concern for me that the board has given clear direction that a PDR program is not the best way to move forward with our concerns about land preservation. This board gave that direction and what was in the DPC work plan is basically counter to what board direction was. And so I believe that for staff to be doing work on this and bringing an item back to T-Lock full board direction needs to be given. So we will have the opportunity to research ourselves on that. And then on October 16th, hopefully we can have a vote. Okay. on October 16th, hopefully we can have a vote. Okay, further discussion on the motion, Mr. Turner? I lost my translate thought. At the T-Lock meeting, we had a fairly long discussion because we were cognizant of board's direction not to staff, not to task staff to continue work on the PDR program. And we had a discussion, Mr. Hemstreet, if you don't mind, I'll bring you into this, about whether asking them to get the PEC presentation was in fact tasking them to do extra work. My understanding out of that discussion was, no, that's not tasking to do extra work, it's providing them with information. So I don't think there's any intent here to have the staff work in a violation of the board's very clear directive, not to work on the PDR program. I don't think there's any intent to have them do that in the intervening time between now and October 16th. It's just deferring the discussion with the understanding that the staff is not allowed to work on the PDR program in the interim and it gives us some time, as you said, to allow the staff to receive more information. Is that a correct interpretation, incorrect interpretation, a year of mind of what went on at T-Lock? Mr. Immissium Street. Yes, that is my, I agree with what you just stated. However, Vice Chair Bristman has given offering a more specific motion which would restrict us from even meeting with anybody. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. That's a clarification. Thank you. So, there's no one who doesn't know that I want a PDR program. I put a PDR program up my very first term. I want a PDR program. The reason I'm going to support Ms. Bricksmist's motion today is this. Mr. Croni just said that she hopes every supervisor meets with PEC between now and the 16th. Staff can do all the work they want to if the supervisors haven't actually set with PEC and done the work. The staff isn't giving us a briefing, that really help a whole lot. And so in the next two weeks, just because staff's not doing the work, doesn't mean each supervisor cannot go sit and meet with PEC. And I, for one, I'm going to to find out what is different about what they're putting forward now. I might even sure what PEC is putting forward should be called a PDR program. No, am I sure why they thought they would should have called the PDR program. I don't know what they're trying to put forward at all because I've not met with them yet. And so it doesn't make sense for staff to do work for us just after we meet with PEC. We go, yep, we don't want to do that because now we have wasted staff's time. And so I'll support the motion while encouraging my colleagues to go on and meet with PEC to see what they're saying because we also don't need to slam the door and whatever they might be saying when we don't know what they're saying yet. As the first reason I support the motion. The second reason I support the motion is because it is my practice that when I have a colleague who was not on the day as with us and I know they want to speak to an issue, I try to give them every opportunity to do this. I know Mr. Litorne wants to speak to this issue. He and I don't agree on the issue. We never have on the PDR program. But it is professional courtesy, in my opinion, to allow a colleague who is not here speak on an issue. And that's always been my practice, and that will be my practice tonight. It never matters whether I agree with them or not. It matters that I have a colleague that I know wants to say something about something and I will give them that chance. And so I will support this motion and I will encourage all of us to meet with PEC. And then after the 16th, after we meet with PEC, it is very possible that the majority of this board will go forth. Because this is not really a PDR program. It's something different. Or, oh, this is a much more boiled down PDR program than we ever thought before or this won't use that amount of tax money or, oh, we found some grant money. We have no idea what we might even say. We don't even know if this will cause a taxpayer dime because we haven't talked to PEC yet. So let's everyone go talk to them. Let staff not do the work until they do talk to them. Let's not make any opinions of what should happen yet or shouldn't until we at least give them the respect to having that conversation. And then on the 16th, let's come back and have the conversation. This is a motion so she gets to close. Madam Chair, could we have a restatement of the motion and it's final form? Can you restate the motion and you're fine with form, Ms. Bergman? Point of order, Madam Chair. Yes, sir. Is this an alternate motion or is it an amendment to my original motion? This is an alternate motion. So if this passes then my motion dies. If this passes, that motion is replaced. Well, the reason we only read that part of your motion is that everything else in your motion stays. And this is added to the motion. Your motion does not die, which is why I was very, very careful to read only the backside of this alternate motion. Everything else remains that you said. Then in this is an amendment, not an alternate motion. Well, no, it's an alternate motion. Everything else remains that you said. Then this is an amendment, not an alternate motion. Well, no, it's an alternate motion. It's an alternate motion. It is. She can read the whole thing. It's an alternate motion. Yeah, it is. Okay. Would you like to have the, would you like to read it one more time and then do a closing? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. I move that the Board of Supervisors approve the current list of projects listed in tables one, two, and three on the Department of Planning and Zoning Work Plan as identified in the October 1, 2024. Board of Supervisors Business Meeting Action Item. No. Why am I not supposed to read that? Because that was in the motion. I know, but this is an alternate motion, so I need to read the first part of motion. No, no, no. I know but this is an alternate motion so I need to read the first part of motion. We just discussed the motion I read and you said you basically you may Mr. Sains second it. You have to which is why I didn't read the first part. Okay, read the whole thing. Now you're making a different motion now you know that right? Isn't the first part of my motion the same as the first part of his motion? I think it is. Was it the same? Yes. It was the same. That's my intent is to do the same first part with a different second part. Okay. I'm fine with that. A treating as an altered emotion and just voting on the altered. Okay. We read this that we read that all? I move that Board of Supervisors. No, we do not. You got proof. The current list of projects listed in tables 1, 2, and 3 on the Department of Planning and Zoning Work Plan as identified in the October 1, 2024 Board of Business Meetings Action meetings action item, excluding the purchase of development rights project and any further discussion and in the interim between now any further discussion staff is to defer any and all work toward the purchase of development rights program including meetings research and item development until after the October 16th 2024 business meeting Okay, would you like a closing? Thank you, madam. Chosen. Yes, madam chair. So in discussions with staff and and and the county administrator, if staff were to meet with PEC, they would, by default, have to bring back an item to the T-Luck committee. So this is not just about the meeting, this is about an item coming back to T-Luck that was not authorized by the entire board. So that is the point in making sure that everyone has the opportunity to meet with PEC and then we will decide if we want to direct staff to do this work. Thank you Madam Chair. All right. The motion was made by the supervisor Bricksmans, seconded by supervisor Sains, kinder. But you all got what we got. You got the okay. All in people say aye. Aye. Opposed? No. Okay, Ms. Griggs may miss glass that you vote? You said aye. Ms. Stendard you vote? Aye. All right, that motion will pass 5, 2, 2. With Mr. Cronian, Mr. Turner, voting against the motion, and then Mr. Kirchner and Mr. Luterno being off the days. Thank you very much for everything. All right, it's 530. We're going to do some resolutions. Way more fun. All right, resolutions, let's see. Let's see, let's see. All right, um, Miss Glass. You have your proclamation for disability Employment Awareness Month? Yes, Madam Chair. You do and is everybody here who received a FAME Award? Okay, let's all meet down front for that and then after that what we will do next is risk-counter awareness for our prevention month National 4-H week if you guys could pass me that from where it was sitting National 4-H week and then Hispanic Heritage Month. Can you pull out the one? I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. All right. You want everyone to come down? Do you want to give those to your to miss glass? There we go. Miss glass. There you go. Miss Glass, there you go. Hi, how are you? Come on both sides if you can please. Both sides will be great. Both sides? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, we're going to read the proclamation and then Miss Glass, I'm going to let you, I don't know how you want to do the Fame awards, because we haven't actually had a chance to talk about what you wanted to fame with. I know, when you're going to read some, oh, I shouldn't call you, I'm sorry. You're going to read some things for the fame awards, and then people will come up and is that right? And I always called you Ms. Givpur, because so are you gonna come over here and you're gonna read those one by one and how you guys want to do that after she meets the proclamation but you stand right here with me. Okay let's read the proclamation first. Good evening everyone and thank you for coming out today. Proclamation where as the talents of all people, including those with disabilities, are a critical part of our efforts to build an inclusive community and strong economy where every day individuals with disabilities add significant value and talent to our workforce and economy. And whereas hiring employees with disabilities, strengthens businesses, increases competition and drives innovation, and by providing accommodations to existing employees returning to work after experiencing an illness or injury, helps retain valuable talent. And whereas National Disability Employment Awareness Month is led by the U.S. Department of Labor's Office of Disability Employment with this year's theme being access to jobs for all, which ensures disabled workers have access to good jobs every month of every year. And whereas the Loudoun County Disability Services Board created the full accessibility and inclusion moving toward equity, the award to recognize businesses that demonstrate a commitment to hiring people with disabilities, providing them with opportunities to develop their skills and careers and offering employees a welcoming and supportive work environment. And whereas Loudon recognizes the disability services board, 2024, FAME Award recipient, Berger is a Berger Phi, a Berger Phi, always get it. Berger Phi, Jackson Harlow Salon, and more better restaurant in Beard Garden. Now therefore be it resolved that the Loudon County Board of Supervisors does hear by proclaim October 2024 as disability employment awareness a month. In Loudoun County it urges the community and employers to support and value talent people with disabilities add to our workplaces and society. Woo-hoo. Applause. Okay, go ahead. Thank you so much. Supervisor Glass, thank you, Chair Randall, Board of Supervisors, and our DSB Board that's here tonight, and our recipients, and the ones that nominated our recipients. A disability inclusive workforce is a strong workforce. All Americans with disabilities deserve dignity, respect, and an equal chance at providing for themselves. The DSP created the full accessibility and inclusion moving towards equity or fame awards so that businesses and organizations in our community that demonstrate a commitment to hiring people with disabilities are acknowledged. Every year in Loudoun County we seek nominations and award companies in our community who make it a priority to hire qualified people who happen to have a disability. Our Board of Super of supervisors are also strengthening our infrastructure and transportation system making it more accessible so that our aging and disabled community can get to work. In keeping with the Department of Labor's theme, access to jobs for all, on September 30th of this year, the U.S. Department of Labor announced the availability of a new tool that provides access to more than 700 accommodation ideas for workers with disabilities and their employers. Since the American, Americans with Disability Act requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations for disabled applicants and employees when requested. This new tool could help employers and workers learn what has worked for others in similar situations. They found that nearly half of the reported accommodations for workers with disabilities can be made at no cost. And that the median cost for those that require a one-time expense is only $300. So I am saying that so that you know that access to jobs for all does not have to blow an organization's budget. As chair of the DSB, I would like to extend a heartfelt thank you and congratulations to our 2024 Fame Award recipients and those who nominated these organizations for your commitment to hire talented individuals with disability in our community. So thank you so much. So if we can have Chris we'd like to give you Chris. Oh, we don't have Chris. Okay, so the representative of Burger Phi, are they here? Not here. Okay, well I will accept that award gladly, except the award on his behalf. All right, and Jackson Harlow Salon. Congratulations. Okay. Yes. Would you like to say a couple of words? I thank you. I'd like to say a little thing. So yes. Okay. I just write a little thing so yes. I'm taking my pictures. Oh, thank you. Okay. You wrote a little something? I did. Okay, well then let me hope this for you. I have a couple of things I have to do. There you go. I was like, she sent those emails like, okay, I'm like, here this. All right. So good evening. I'm honored to stand before you today to talk about something that has always been at the heart of Jackson Harlow. Our on wavering commitment to inclusion and diversity in the beauty industry at Jackson Harlow, we believe that beauty knows no boundaries and that extends for beyond the services we offer. It's about creating an environment where everyone regardless of ability has the opportunity to thrive, shine and contribute to their unique talents. The beauty industry has long been celebrated for its creativity and self-expression. Yet at Jackson Harlow, we recognize the true beauty lies in our actions and values. That is why we are committed to being leaders and supporting people with disabilities. We give opportunity to include individuals who might have been overlooked, not just because it's the right thing to do, but because they bring invaluable perspectives, creativity, and passion that enrich our team and our community. We are proud of the diverse team we've built, where everyone, no matter their ability, has a place to grow, succeed, and lead. By fostering an inclusive workplace, we ensure that all voices are heard, every stylist technician and professional can contribute to the vibrant fabric of Jackson Harlow. Our commitment goes beyond employment. It extends into mentorship, training, and career advancement, ensuring that those with disabilities are given the tools and support to flourish in this industry. At Jackson Harlow, we understand that diversity and inclusion are not just buzzwords. They are the foundation of innovation and excellence. By embracing all talents, we are not only buzzwords. They are the foundation of innovation and excellence. By embracing all talents, we are not only changing the face of beauty, but challenging the industry's norms to create a future that is truly inclusive for everyone. Together we are proving that beauty is not defined by limitation, but by the limitess potential in every person. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. The next awardee is more better, more better restaurant and bar. I was going to say more better beer, but congratulations. Thank you so much. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. We have words you'd like to share? I don't write anything, but sure. Thank you. Thank you. And I just want to say that getting to work with Mitchell over the past year and a half has been amazing not only for me but for the rest of my staff and Week in and Week out he genuinely is an example for what all employees should be. So thank you. Thank you so much. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. That concludes our awards ceremony. Now we go to more better beer, right? I mean, just. OK, first of all, congratulations. And thank you to everybody up here. Two things. What you just said was so important. Because working with people with disabilities helps everybody. And so we have this belief that it just helps the person with it. But it's not true. It helps everybody. I also like what you said, and when you said people who happen to have disability, because like their whole self is not just that. They're all these things. And then they happen to have disability. I thought that was a really strong and powerful way to say that. So good job and thank you to the board and thank you to everybody. And let's take a picture. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, she has jokes. What everyone comes down for the breast cancer awareness month, please. Yes, ma'am. I do. We're good. We're fine. We're good. Hi, how are you? Come on over. How are you? Good to meet you. I'm very happy to have you guys. Hi, how are you? Come on over. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're going to do the resolution. I know that I have one somewhere. Good evening everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. There you go. Good evening, everybody. Thank you so much for coming. Whereas breast cancer awareness month observed each October is a key opportunity to recognize the progress made in preventing and treating breast cancer while emphasizing the ongoing need for education, awareness, and continued research to support those affected by this pervasive disease, which continues to impact hundreds of thousands of Americans annually. And whereas early detection through screening continues to be essential for improving survival rates. According to the American Cancer Society, when breast cancer is detected at a localized stage, the five year relative survival rate can be as high as 99%. underscoring how annual mammograms and regular self-exams remain a highly effective screening tool. And whereas raising awareness about breast cancer and increasing funding for research has led to significant improvements in treatment and diagnostic procedures. For example, adjustments have been made for when and how often women are recommended to have mammograms and in September of 2024. The Food and Drug Administration issued a new rule requiring health care providers to inform patients if they have dense breast tissue, which increases the risk of breast cancer. And whereas, there are many organizations in Loudoun County committed to providing critical resources, education and direct assistance to those impacted by breast cancer, including ANOVA Hospital, Loudoun Breast Health Network, Step Sisters, and Walk for Mountains, who will be hosting their annual Walk for Breast Cancer on October 12th in Levitt'sville, as well as bishops events who is hosting miles from Amigrams on October 6th at Claude Moore Park. And whereas Loudoun County Board of Supervisors continues to support efforts that raise awareness about breast cancer prevention, and early detection, and encourages citizens, businesses, government agencies, and nonprofit organizations to engage in efforts that promote education and prevention. Now therefore be it resolved that the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors does hereby designate October 2024 as breast cancer awareness month. All right. That's it. That's it. That's it. I know, it's not cool. Oh, look, I got mine on. So I will say few words if you don't mind, Madam Chair. I stand before you today as a breast cancer survivor. This time last year, I was undergoing radiation treatments for breast cancer. It was discovered early in stage one through your annual mammogram. And my mammogram about 14 months before that was normal. So as we were saying earlier, every year, it's really important it can grow in just a matter of 12 to 14 months. I had a lot of support, thank goodness, for my treatments. And I added this part about the dense breast tissue because it's really important. I actually have dense breast tissue. And I just went back to a visit to my breast surgeon last week or the week before. And now because of that, they inform me, but also I need to get an MRI and a mammogram every year, alternating every six months, I need to get either one. So they will step up your care if they know that you have that and you should be asking your provider if you do. I do intend to join walk for mountains this year. I feel so much better. It's one of those things like you didn't know how bad you felt until you started feeling better. And I started feeling better probably around March or April. So thank you everyone for your support and thank you for all you do in the community. Like Sam think? Real quick, I know the Latin hospital is very, very thankful to the county for continuing to make it very known that press cancer awareness is important. I'm here today unfortunately because one of our amazing surgeons is currently insurgering, had to scrub in right before she came. Dr. Michelle Agari sends her regrets, but she's doing what she needs to do. And as Supervisor Brissman said, and alluded to, one in eight women will get breast cancer. So annual mammograms are incredibly important. I didn't really plan it. Okay, you sure. incredibly important. I'm with Loudon Breast Health Network. We are all volunteer organization that helps just Loudon County residents. We don't go outside the county, but that's okay. And we raise a lot of our money through the schools. Yesterday I was at Tuscarora High School right now. I'm heading out to Riverside for their pink powder puff game and I want to tell you if you want to see any hope in the future go walk into a high school classroom it's there I promise you it's it's wonderful to be around those kids I also want to say the walk for mountains. It's a great opportunity. This isn't just a disease for women though. This year we had two men that we helped and it was kind of an enlightening thing for all of us like this doesn't just happen to women. The other thing is, and I say this to everybody every year, it's a great month and I love it and all the excitement and all the good that's done. But November 1st, a woman will wake up with breast cancer. So even though we really highlight this month, it's 12 months out of the year. So thank you for including us. Thank you. So I would say because you didn't do it in your own home. So when step sisters first really got started and I really understood what you were doing, I remember one of you said to me like, you know, we go in and we take kids to their appointments and we clean the house and we mold all that stuff. And it was so like I hope it's like, oh yeah. I mean, like, you know, you, you, you get this diagnosis, but your life doesn't stop. You still have to keep cleaning your house and making dinner and taking the kids and going all that kind of stuff. And so what you all do so often is help women get through just their lives while in men while they're dealing with breast cancer. So it is absolutely amazing what you all are doing. I also wanna say that two years ago, I decided, you know, the first person I called was Dory and I said, I have this idea of doing my mammogram on camera. It was a great idea to you walk into the room and somebody's behind you with the camera and you're like, this was a bad idea. But it was you that I called first and it was you're like, this was a bad idea. But it was you that I call first and it was you that walked, you and I went to every step of doing that on camera. And that video was now playing at the health clinic of what it is because so many women, I did that because I remember when I was at Walk From Mountains and I got my mammograms standing in line. So lady behind me that said, she never had a mammogram, never. And I said, why? And she said, well, I'm scared. So, I decided to do it just to show people that it's not that scary, right? And just to show what it was. And so, thank you for that. And that video still out there. I won't be doing that ever again. But I'm going to maverick again, but not on camera, not on camera. But that video still shows and you all were wonderful for that. And we look forward to walk from mountains and thank you guys for what you do. And let's take a picture. Mr. Turner, make sure you're in. Because I know that you had a friend, a very good friend, who survived a double misectomy. And this is an issue that is very important for you as well. Thank you. All right, let's get this picture. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. please. And where are they? Right here. Is that fine rescue right here? No, that's fine. That's fine. I care just. I think they're underneath that. Mr. Sains, do you have my fire rescue? I'm not really going to leave it. Oh gosh. Here we go again. Here it is. Here it is. I'm here. Congratulations. Laura, please. Can you reach this for me? Mr. Saints, can you reach this for me? Hi. How's it going? I'm well. You know what I was thinking? You know, we actually made one and do the thing again when we did the take vaccinations on camera. Because the people who were getting flu shots is really low this year. Remember, we did that during COVID. We did vaccination on camera. Yes, really low this year. People are not getting the flu shots. And then the new COVID shot. And so we were talking about how to make the awareness. And so that wasn't fun. But I think Jeremy gave me my shot. So I might call. Yeah. Jeremy and Mike. Yes, it wasn't. Yeah, they were the hot shots at the time. Right. I said they were calling themselves the hot shots. Hello Chief Johnson, how are you? Proclamation for fire prevention. There they are. I was like, where the door is? No, no, there they are. Proclamation for fire prevention month. Where is? Fire is a serious public safety concern both locally and nationally. And the county of Allownie is committed to ensuring the safety of all residents and visitors. And whereas, loud and county's first responders work to reduce the occurrence of home fires and fire injuries through proactive fire prevention activities and life safety and education. And whereas, roughly three out of five fire deaths happen in homes with either no smoke alarms or no working smoke alarms. And whereas having a working smoke alarms cuts the risk of dying and reported home fires almost in half. And whereas residents should install smoke alarms in every sleeping room outside each separate sleeping area and on every level of the home. And whereas loud and fire fighters offer free smoke alarm inspection and smoke alarms to all loud and county residents. Now therefore be it resolved that the loud and county board of supervisors does here by proclaim October 2024 as fire prevention month in loud and county and the Loudin County Combined Fire and Rescue System and the Loudin County Board of Supervisors urge all residents to participate in various outreach events throughout the Fire Prevention Month and remember Smoke Alarms saves lives. Yay. Applause Chief Johnson, before I hand you the mic, I want to tell you something a couple of years ago, when we were doing this, I actually shared that when we were doing a fire safety drill in our house because you've got everyone aware and a little paranoid, a little paranoid, that my son was not waking up to the smoke alarm sound. He wasn't waking up. And then I read that a lot of young people for whatever reason don't wake up to that tone. And you told me to do one that is a voice activated instead. The difference was amazing. And so it was like, wake up, air, wake up. And it actually worked, whereas just the, just the, just the Dinging one did not work. So yeah, you were correct, as always, as always. They have them for the visually impaired and hearing impaired. So whatever your impairment is, we have a working smoke alarm for you. And I'm going to turn over to Lisa. Lisa Montavo is our heart and soul, our public education manager. This is her life. She does every day dedicates to fire prevention and smoke alarms. But I want to point out these two special guests. We have Luna, who is our new canine and Aurora, who is our retired canine. She looks a little retired. So, Lisa, what's the handler for Aurora? Aurora has a couple health issues and I think I sent that to the folks and so she's working through a thing now that she retired. That happens in retirement. You go to see the doctor more but we're hoping that she rests comfortably and that she goes on to live, you know, as long as life is possible now that she's retired. So So we'll hand that down to Lisa. Come on, Lisa. There you go. Luna keeps right here in front of the center. There you go. And you're going to be the one to hope too when you miss. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, so we do a lot of programs with London County Fire Rescue. Primarily our Smoke Alarm Program. years fire prevention week theme is smoke alarms make them work for you. Sometimes we don't feel like they are when they're chirping or false alarms. So our smoke alarm program not only ensures that people have working smoke alarms but they also are working for them and they understand how they work. So when they do have that chirp or they can avoid the chirp so they don't dismantle those. We also have our fire it up for safety program which goes to target every single first grade classroom here in Loudoun County. That's all on top of our operational personnel going out into schools to do preschools, kindergarten, we are in HOA's, businesses, our code inspectors, our regularly checking emergency preparedness plans. We are just hitting it on all fronts. It is really a department system wide thing that we all work together on, especially in October. We do it all year round, but October is our real big push. Thank you. Very good. Okay, this is yours. And anybody else? We're good? All right, then let's take a picture. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm sorry. for 4-H. If you were here for 4-H, yeah, I did go. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. How are you? I am well. I am well. Mr. Crony is going to read the four-h resolution while I fix this and the phone. Okay. We can't have that. You take this one because this one I phone. Okay. We can't have that. Take this one because this one needs to fix. All right. So thank you. Yes it is. Hello. Can you hear me? Okay. Okay. So 4HH is the national youth development program of the land grant universities who are celebrating National 4-H week, October 7th through the 12th, 2024, and 4-H focuses on the four-fold development of the head, heart, hands, and health of youth members ages five through 19. And 4-H is American's largest youth development organization annually empowering nearly six million young people with the skills to lead for a lifetime. And Latin County 4-H through hands-on after school and in-school programming reaches over 25,000 youth annually. And National 4-H week recognizes the ways that 4H inspires youth to take positive action and highlights the significant impact that loud and 4H members have on their communities. Now therefore be it resolved that Loudon County Board of Supervisors does hereby proclaim October 7 through 12, 2024 as National 4-H week. Yay! So one thing I wanted to mention is my daughter does the 4-H camp in front oil. Yeah, that's a great camp. Isn't that a great camp? Yeah. So I don't know if you guys wanna say a few words. Very similar. So we're gonna do some very great, so many energy. Energy is very great. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you to all of our supervisors again for your constant support of our local 4-H program. So in true youth development fashion, we're very excited to have one of our extraordinary teens here with us. She has been a long time member of our club program. Multiple clubs were probably eight or so years now, but she also serves in various roles at the state level through Virginia 4-H. She's currently a cabinet ambassador and a 4-H livestock ambassador. And you'll see in just a minute that she is an amazing public speaker. As we just told her about 15 minutes ago, we would like for her to share very quickly about the impact the program has had on her. So I will hand it over to Mary Grace. Thank you, Mary Grace. Thank you so much. My name is Mary Grace Menui. I've been a 4-H member for around eight years now. And 4-H has really helped me so much in getting confidence, public speaking skills, and leadership abilities. Right now I'm serving as the Northeast District Ambassador for the Virginia 4H Cabinet where I represent 25 counties in Northeast Virginia. I'm also a 4H livestock ambassador and right now I just got elected as the president of the London County 4H Dairy Club. 4H has really taught me so much about leadership and what it means to be a leader. It's helped me discover my passions, and I know that it will help me to succeed in the future. So thank you so much. Well, that's fun. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I will also say that I know Mr. Kirshner is going to miss Indy De De because his voice are also in for age. And so he at the Mr. Day Bum sure he would extend to you. His thanks and his congratulations. All right, let's take a picture. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go me back down front is Hispanic Heritage Month. Hi, how are you? Jason, you should come down here. And actually, is Abby still here? Okay. All right. Hello. I brought my glasses. Whereas Hispanic American, sorry, Hispanic Heritage Month, or Miss, the La Eencia, Hispana, Hispania, was originally observed as Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson. In 1968, was later extended to a month long celebration by President Ronald Reagan in 1988. And whereas this year's Hispanic Heritage Month theme is pioneers of change, shaping the future together and this month we celebrate and highlight the impact and contributions of the Hispanic and Latino communities have made to Loudon County. And whereas the Latino and Hispanic immigrant community provides the backbone to our success in the community, the work ethic, grit, and resilience of the Latino and Hispanic people contributes to a thriving economy in Loudon County. And whereas the Hispanic Student Association of the Loudon campus of Northern Virginia Community College have created a space for Hispanic students and culture to be represented, represented, celebrated, and expressed and whereas the years Hispanic Student Association has accumulated northern Virginia Community College students from a variety of different backgrounds in cultures and provided the opportunity for their voices to be heard through meetings, potlucks, and social gatherings. Now therefore be it resolved that the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors does hear by proclaim September 15, 2024 through October 15, 2024 as Hispanic Heritage Month. And Loudoun County recognizes the contributions of the Hispanic and Latino community. It's my understanding you all just reconstituted this group, right? So you guys just started to back up. You want to tell a little bit about why you did that and how that came to be? Yeah, so last year I was just a regular member of the Hispanic Student Association at the Northern Virginia Community College here in the Loudoun campus. You know, the population of Hispanic students in our campus is really small, especially last year. Only a few members were able to attend. And now this year I am the president of the Association and this year we have gathered over 30 people and we're still counting. And you know, it's really great. We're trying to get as many people as we can. Right now we're working on doing social gatherings, more potlucks, and just ways so we can spread our culture throughout the campus. So I'm really glad that this proclamation has happened and I'm here today. Thank you. Somebody who really helped write this proclamation is worked really hard. Anything you want to say? Sure. I don't know what to say, but I appreciate the opportunity to have to have worked with Stephanie. It's right this and the other offices that join me as well. My culture is very important to me. Sorry. So I think Chair Randall and Matt for all the support and the other offices as well that joined me on this and Stephanie and everyone at NBCC as well for being here. And if it wasn't for that support, I wouldn't have been able to do this. Thank you. APPLAUSE Well, truthfully, if it wasn't for you, we actually wouldn't have done this. No joke wouldn't have done this, and so thank you. All right, let's get a picture. I'm sorry. Okay. We are going to go on and do our public speakers, our public comments. And then after that, we think we only have one more action. I'm sorry. We may finish that before we take a break. Just give me one second. I will call your names. Three people in advance. When I call your name, please come to the podium, closest to you when you're finished speaking. If you would really first approach to the next person, that'd be very helpful. The first person is James Russell, followed by Matthew Nunein, followed by, well, what I'm gonna do is go to everyone in the room, and then I will go to the web to the virtual. So after Mr. Nunein, I go to Fred Ferraldois because I think the other people are actually on the WebEx. And so we'll go, we'll do everyone the room first. Good evening Mr. Russell. I'm wondering if we can acknowledge that these people exist. I wonder if we can admit to the basic fact that among the constituency of Loudoun County there are Palestinian Americans. It's not up for debate and I wonder if we can acknowledge it. We cannot accommodate a conversation about a mostly symbolic gesture for a ceasefire resolution. We cannot acknowledge attempts for inquiry as to financial matters to determine whether or not Loudoun County is invested in the crime of the century, not in this economy. But can we acknowledge that these people exist. I, as I have pretty much everybody else, spent my own time studying the racialized atrocities of the last 200 years. Chattel's slavery of African Americans and the subsequent repression that goes on to this day. The continental scale of genocide against the indigenous people who inhabited these lands, including the land we are inhabiting. Right this moment. The Nazi Holocaust against European Jews, European Romani, LGBTQ people, and their partisan comrades. I, as everybody else, have spent time looking at these stories, wondering how such a thing could happen. wondering what I would do if I was living to bear witness to something like that. I believe there is a through line, there is a consistent quality over these atrocities. I believe they begin when the officials who represent those people who take responsibility for those people fail to acknowledge their identity, I believe that if we cannot acknowledge the identity of the Palestinian Americans who live in Loudon County, practically speaking, they would already be dead. Thank you, Mr. Russell. Matthew Nune, followed by Fred Ferraris, followed by Mary Ann Manning. Good evening. Good evening. I just wanna let you know that the tragedies that we're witnessing in the Middle East, going on right now in the past day and weeks are all of our elected officials fault. It's of course the federal politicians fault, it's our state officials fault and it's your fault for not speaking out. As long as we're silent this is going to continue to happen, this is going to continue to get worse and it affects your neighbors extremely intimately. People that you will hear today speak, they are terrified for their families. And I mean everything, everything that I want to say I've already said, I don't know how to say it another way, honestly. But it's extremely disappointing to hear this silence from our officials and that's about it. Thank you. Fred Fjord was followed by Mary Ann Manning followed by Bill Hatch. Good evening, sir. Good evening, ma'am. My name is Fred Feraris and I live in Willowsford in the Little River District. I'm here representing the loud and invasive removal alliance. On behalf of Leera, I want to extend my appreciation to Chair Randall and the entire Board of Supervisors for the support that you've demonstrated with your time, energy and financial commitment to the invasive initiative that Leera members and many residents of the county began discussing before the board around this time last year. Since we first presented, we've collectively come a long way. Lear's membership is grown and now includes members from every district in the county. We represent residents from Little River in the west to Sterling and Algonquin in the east, from Catacitan in the north to Dallas and the south. Lear represented our vision for a program and you worked with us to provide an initial $250,000 to fund the scope of the program. Members of the Lera Board collaborated with county staff and representatives from Loudon's soil and water district to provide structure for our vision and to develop a pilot program that will deliver impactful results. The first scrape for the grape event was organized by Lera, visit Loudon, the extension office, and various wineries. Participants from across the county helped to remove tens of thousands of egg masses which mitigated the potential of over 2 million spotted lanternflies from hatching this year, which if anybody's looking around outside, they're around this year. However, the spotted lanternfly is only a symptom. The issue is the spread of invasive plant species where invasive insect pests then nest. As we close out 2024, the pilot invasive program that you funded with $150,000 will be conducted at six different locations. This program will help to inform the next steps for a larger program and identify ways to achieve success at scale across the county. As we look forward to 2025, Leera is aware that the Board of Supervisors is considering providing funding for a county-wide invasive plant removal program. You have the full support of Leera and our commitment to the success of the program to achieve the vision that we laid out here a year ago in October of 2023. We've assembled a few speakers to share more of what's transpired over the last year and to reiterate the importance of such a critical and time sensitive program. Thank you for your time. Thanks for the support. Thank you very much. Mary Ann Manning followed by Bill Hatch followed by Roger Zanes. Good evening. Hi, good evening. Chair Randall, supervisors. My name is Mary Ann Manning and I am board member with the Belmont Community Association in the Ashburn District. I am also a Lear Board member and a Lions which now counts 53 HOAs representing over 200,000 homeowners throughout Loudoun County. It's been almost a year since Lear spoke to the Board of Supervisors about the pressing issue of invasive plant species They're widespread throughout Loudon County and we are so grateful for the support you have given us since then You listened took action and now you're later we are working with our partners at Loudon soil and water Conservation District on a pilot program that we firmly believe will demonstrate just how effective this program could be if it were to be rolled out on a countywide basis in the spring of 2025. The economic and environmental impact of invasive plants is a big deal, but I wanted to reinforce that health and safety of our residents is a hugely important aspect to mitigating the invasive plant species in the county. For example, Japanese barberry, which is prevalent throughout Laudan County, has been shown to harbor and boost deer tick populations by enhancing their micro habitat and survival, spreading Lyme disease. Japanese barberry is a perfect example of an invasive plant that is popular with developers as it is an attractors shrub that is also inexpensive and grows quickly. In Belmont, a land where we have over 18 miles of roads, Barbaria is one of the most common invasive plants in our community comprising over 70% of the shrubs, excuse me, planted by the developer. Bradford Pairs, which have a weak wood structure in Japanese still grass, which is highly flammable when it dries out in the fall, are just two other invasive plant examples that are hazards to human safety. Identifying and removing them will go a long way toward keeping our residents protected from the harmful effects of these plants. And as for Lira, it has been exciting to be a part of this truly grassroots movement. In addition to working with the county and the Water District to stand up this invasive plant mitigation program, the number of HOAs joining Leera grows every week. Fairfax County has replicated Leera with Vera and is up to 35 members, delegates like David Reed and Suhas have been getting involved at the state level and we've even helped organize resident training sessions on topics of the tree of heaven removal. In closing, we recognize that we wouldn't be here. Oh, am I done? Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Bill Hatch followed by Roger Zanes. And then we will go back to Sarah Bazaar. Good evening. Good evening. Thank you. I'm Bill Hatch. And first of all, I want to show you a couple pictures. I'll be in hand them to the clerk so they're ready to concede them. Yeah, they're disgusting. They're here in Loudon County. These pictures were taken Saturday, last Saturday, the're disgusting. They're here in Loudon County. These pictures were taken last Saturday, the 30th. And they're pretty amazing. Great buying, tree of heaven. As a lifelong farmer in the Catoctin district, we farmers have been fighting, destroying, crop destroying invasive insects and plants for my entire life. Invasive species are one of the many risks of farming. I applaud the all efforts to limit invasives and the economic damage to hundreds of lab and vineyards and our rural industry. This great for the great campaign promoted a huge amount of awareness for the spotted lanternfly and the tree of heaven because it is a magnet to the spotted lanternfly. The hack and squirt, which you all know about, for killing the tree of heaven within a few hundred yards of my home vineyard, Zephaniah Farm Vineyard has had very good results. We are seeing many fewer lanternflies in our vineyard sucking life out of our vines. I fully support the continued elimination of the tree of heaven and other invasive plants and insects in Loudon. Wine growing is farming and viable farming is, in my opinion, the very best tool we have to preserve roll out and thank you. Thank you Mr. Hatch. I actually was in correct where do Roger Zanes in Beth Erickson and then we will go to the web with Sarah Bazaar. Good evening Mr. Zanes. Good evening. This is just a here, you know, a bakery. I'm not known for my low voice. So thank you all very much for allowing me to present tonight. My name is Roger Zane. As you know, I'm on the board of the Highlands of Round Hill HOA, which is a supervisor, Kirschner the Catech and District. Our HOA is the 53rd and the most recent HOA to join what has been introduced already is Lira, the loud and invasive removal alliance. An organization I first learned of through an article in the Times Mirror last week. I immediately saw an opportunity to help our neighborhood because we've got lanternflies out the in Yang and I contacted Mark. We got together real quickly and the reason that we wanted the HOA wants to join is because we've had a huge infestation of the spot in Linernflies the summer that quite frankly has made it impossible to enjoy being outdoors ever since July. Our neighborhood is home to a number of what are called the trees of Heaven, which is an aggressively invasive species of tree that is the preferred host of the spot laner and fly throughout their life cycle. Of course, it would like to have as many of these trees as possible, which we hope will also decrease the density of spotted laner and flies in our development. Before learning Alira, I was planning on cutting down all of the trees. In my backyard where the chain saw is where. Glad I didn't do it because I have subsequently learned that if you cut down a tree of heaven, it puts up 50 suckers that all become trees of heaven, and then you better real problem in your hands. Lear fortunately has a solution, which I think was just introduced as the hack and spray method that is effective at getting rid of the trees and that's what we'd like to get involved in as soon as possible. Combating invasive species requires a multi-pronged effort as you all will know. So I'm confident that I speak for all of us in our group and pretty much everyone in the modern county that suffered for intermplies that we thank you all for your attention to this important issue. And we've figured that you recognize that this is an important and economic environmental and health and safety issue for all the constituents in the modern county. So thank you very much for your possible additional funding in the coming year. Thank you so much Mrs. Ainsie. Appreciate it. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Beth Erickson followed by Sarah Bazar followed by Rulan Nassau. Good evening Madam Chair, Madam Vice Chair and members of the Board of Supervisors. I've often joked that if I had a one-line job description, it would be making tourism visible. What I will tell you over the course of the last two months, certainly in Leesburg, throughout Loudoun County as my colleague, Mr. Hatch has shown, the spotted lantern fly has absolutely made invasive species visible. So Loudon was leading this effort well before the blooming of what is an attractive yet nuisance bug this past summer. And so I think what's really incredible is that what we knew and we were really excited about this grape for the grape, and many of my scrapers are here and are here as well, was that the two million spotted lantern fly that we removed were just a drop in the bucket. So this is the time for continued pressure and just making sure that there's awareness within the community and Lira, and the help of Loudoun County has really taken a huge step forward in that. And this is also Virginia Wine Month, the month of October's Virginia Wine Month. So it's really fitting for me to be before you to say thank you so much for helping to support the industry that is putting so much money back into our economy. And as we look to continue to raise the awareness, one of the things that I think is really, that gives me tremendous pride, as I'm sure it does to you as well, is how this program has become a model for other regions. And you think about, with Fairfax coming online, if Pennsylvania had come online with something similar, if Maryland, what we would be seeing in Loudon County would be greatly reduced. So the time is now, the time is ripe as frustrating as it is and as I'm sure many people have seen me kind of staggering down the sidewalk as I stop on every single spotted lantern fly that I can find. That continued awareness is important and I am so grateful for your support and I'm so grateful for the community. So thank you very much and happy Virginia one month. Thank you, Ms. Erickson, just give me one second. So I'm going to be putting up a post tomorrow about the, where they call it, the egg masses. Because I was under the impression that these egg masses would only be found on the tree of heaven trees. Well, in fact, they are... They can be anywhere that I have a picture here that I will put up tomorrow and they are on like the... ...oning of somebody's house and so... So I think one message that we can put out is, Anywhere you see these egg masses, they don't have to be on trees to go on and kill them. If you don't mind and if you know and if you don't, I'll call Mr. Hatchback up. Can you tell us the timeline? I think that they're supposed to be dying out right now and laying eggs. Can you tell me, tell us? That is correct. And I think that where you're going to be seeing the spotted, I mean, the egg sacs really start happening is now. And then as the foliage comes off trees, and as you really start to look around, the egg masses become more and more visible. And it's really through that education that one of the speakers had also mentioned and through Virginia Cooperative Extension, they really helped to define what a spotted lantern fly egg mass looks like. And what's important is each of those egg masses hold between 35 and 50 spotted lantern fly eggs. Is there any other way to kill an egg mass rather than scraping? I cannot think of a more satisfying way to kill the egg masses than scraping them. Or as we did in bluemont we collected them in cups and threw them into the fire. But that was also very satisfying. But when you looked at where we saw the largest concentration of egg masses was up in bluemont and they were on the posts of the vineyards, they were on the vines, they were underneath anything that was out there. So they will go anywhere they can safely lay those egg masses. Okay. Well, thank you very much for that information. And Madam Chair, I will say again, Virginia Cooperative Extension and Lira have great visuals for what those egg masses look like. A lot of my information I do actually get from Lira. I'm gonna put some post up tomorrow. And I will ask that people share the post far and wide so everyone can see what they look like. And we have more scrapes planned starting in December and January. And I will ensure that I provide that information to you, Madam Chair. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. All right, let's go to Sarah Bazaar. I don't want to say your name incorrectly. So I'm sorry, if you don't mind, pronounce your name for me. I'd appreciate that. And then after that, we'll go to Rula Nassirra and then Lauren Taylor. Is it Andy who's doing the calls tonight? Is it Andy on the phone? Andy, can you hear me? Yep, I'll just put her through. All right, we're ready for you, ma'am. Exata Hussein, Bazaar. Bazaar, thank you, ma'am. We're ready for you. Good evening. Consha folks are here today to question the direction of our nation's priorities. In loud and county alone, $8 million of our taxpayer funds are funneled into the Israeli occupation forces, contributing to the one-year-long genocide in Gaza, and decades of occupation of Palestinian lands. This is money that could be used right here at home on local initiatives on rebuilding our communities, employing special education teachers where we have a national shortage of and even providing 138 scholarship opportunities to our high school graduates here in Loudin County. Have we ever thought if a natural disaster was to hit our county? Well, just recently, Hurricane Helene took the lives of 128 Americans, causing millions of dollars worth of damages, particularly along the east coast, with North Carolina being hit hardest. All people are suffering, all infrastructure is crumbling, and yet, our government continues to send billions of dollars abroad to fund Israel's ongoing wars in the Middle East. The genocide has now expanded on to Lebanon. Are you happy? Are you proud of yourselves? Should we continue to write blank checks to Israel? We must ask ourselves, where are American priorities? Why not invest those funds here, where they so desperately needed to save lives? Instead, back in 2018, Americans in Texas were being forced to pledge allegiance to Israel as part of the employment contracts, as well as to receive government disaster relief funds in the wake of Hurricane Harvey. This is a blatant violation of our constitution. This is not what we, as an American, stand for, or first amendment rights are being trampled in the name of foreign proxy wars. And in time, we say enough is enough. Israel is a proxy. We demand an end to this blind support for Israel's military aggression, a call for permanent ceasefire, an arms embargo, and divestment from all Israeli companies starting with ViAP, which received 244,872 dollars in fiscal year in 2024 alone. America must choose to take care of our citizens before it goes. Thank you. Thank you. I don't often correct a speaker because it's not really appropriate, but I'm going to do that right now because it's now been said twice. And I need to make sure it's clear because I did go check. Loud and County does not hold any funds in any Israeli financial institutions or banks. We do not. I did check. And so I just want to make that clear. Since tonight it's been said two times. And that's all I'll say. Our next speaker is Rulana Sira, followed by Lauren Taylor. Hello, it's Rulana Sira. I'm greeting everyone in the room, especially to Aurora and Luna. I would like to ask this Sherry Randall. I saw the powerful post she shared from the Ark of the United States, and it really resonated with me. It's still important to recognize a dignity and humanity of people with intellectual and physical disabilities and stand against any form of discrimination or devaluation. Given your stance, I'm curious how you feel about the recent attacks on disabled Palestinians by Israeli forces. For example, Hamad Bar, a 24-year-old Palestinian autism and Down syndrome was killed when an Israeli military attack got mold him in Gaza. Similarly, Yad bin Najar, a 37-year-old Palestinian with cognitive impairment and limited mobility was shot and killed by Israeli soldiers. Both were vulnerable individuals, whose disabilities left them dissentless. Yet they lost their lives in brutal circumcancell. Additionally, Nur Joudé, a Palestinian born with a leg deformity, was wounded in an earth strike that killed 45 of her relatives in Razeh. Due to her disability, she was unable to get herself out of the rubble after this strike. These are just a few examples of how disabled individuals are caught in the violence, often paying the highest price. There are innumerable babies, children, women and men who have lost limbs and are disabled by Israel with our taxpayers' money on a daily basis for decades. How do you reconcile advocacy for those with disabilities when Latin County is contributing to harm? Surely it must weigh heavily on your heart and conscious as it does mine. The time is now to condemn violence of disabled Palestinians, and I look forward to hearing your voice as many great leaders before you have done when faced with injustices. Silence is not an option where activism is a duty. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how we can better stand up for the dignity and rights of disabled individuals, regardless of where they live. Thank you for your time and for raising awareness on such an important issue. On another note, I would like to recommend two books for the board members to read. Jimmy Carter's book, Palestine Peace, Not Appartite, and the Israeli Jewish historian Ellen Poppies' book, The Esnick Lensing of Palestine. I'm going to talk about the first thing I want to talk about is the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going to talk about the I'm going the camera, I think it's a bully. Okay. Good evening and thank you for this opportunity. My name is Lauren Taylor and I'm the executive director of the Blue Ridge Partnership for Regional and Basis Management or Prism for short. I'm also a co-author of the Common Agenda Briefing Book Paper on Envasive Plants for the Virginia Conservation Network, a consortium of over 160 environmental organizations across the Commonwealth. Blue Ridge Prison is the first and only cooperative weed management area in the state of Virginia, and our on-the-ground work covers 12 counties, including Loudon and 3.6 million acres. We're also working at the state level on a bipartisan supported signage bill to provide point of sale education to consumers about invasive plants in retail garden centers. United Nations reports that invasive species cost the global economy $423 billion per year. So it's extremely exciting to be partnering with the Loudon invasive removal alliance and the Loudon soil and water conservation district in the crown breaking invasive plant removal and native plant restoration pilot project approved by the board of supervisors. We are thrilled to be providing the site visits, the training and the education needed to successfully treat and manage invasive plants across the thousands of acres of common areas in the Lear Network. HOA has traditionally been a tough nut to crack when it comes to recognizing the impact of invasive plants and I give full credit to Lear for bringing 53 HOAs and half the population of the county to the table for this important work. Lear is having an extraordinary impact in just a short period of time, from their county wide engagement in this great for the great campaign, to their exponential growth, to their successful removal this summer of dozens of tree of heaven, and forging the way for this pilot. We're already seeing the ripple effects spread to HOAs in other counties, and we could not be more grateful. Last but far from least, I'd like to thank each member of the Loudon Board of Supervisors for your foresight in addressing this critical and urgent problem-driven basis species and for taking action. You're setting the tremendous examples for other counties across the state and we look forward to making a significant impact in Loudon County. Thank you. Thank you and then we have our last two speakers. Jeremy Jones and Samantha Saboli. Good evening. Good evening. Firstly, I would like to- Mr. Jones, pull that microphone a little bit closer to you. There you go. Thank you. Firstly, I would like to make a correction to your correction. We are invested in data centers that are invested in Israeli companies. So really, even if it's not a direct connection, like they're still a tie there. There are many things we take for granted. In the past year, that has become abundantly clear to me. Clean air, water, food, family, housing, and the ability to wake up after going to sleep. All things this country has a history of depriving from others. 77 years ago, the Palestinian genocide began. This was called the Nakba. One year later, President Truman recognized Israel as a state. 15,000 people were killed. More than 75% of the indigenous Palestinian population forcibly evicted from their homes. The anti-zionist organization, Jewish Voice for Peace, and the UN, both recognized that the knock-butt never ended. It's desolation spanning seven decades into the present. Not just because we take the value of human life for granted, but because the American State Department's capital gain is top priority. If the entire population of Leesburg were wiped off the map, would you take their lives for granted? If all of Richmond died of starvation and disease, would you scream into a smoke blanket in sky begging for help? There are no bystanders in genocide, only enablers. Do not take the humanity of the Palestinian people for granted. Free Palestine. Thank you, Mr. Jones. and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco and the city of San Francisco for reminding everyone that Palestinian Americans reside in this district and I'm one of them. I've actually been living in Loudoun County in specifically Sterling Park since 1999. And so I have been an LCPS student and I'm also an Iranian American. So I have a very different perspective I would think, but I'm not the only one in this district. And my ancestors came here fleeing political unrest and for better economic opportunities, and of course the freedoms and protections afforded by this country. But today, I don't feel those things. I am one of many contributing residents that represent the Palestinians, the Palestinian diaspora. And I want to just talk to each of you, right? You all ran for a public office. Somewhere deep down, I ask you to dig down and remember, pass the self-ambition why you ran for office. It's to represent your people, it's to represent your district. And I'm asking you to please remember that. And if you can't think of anything but self-ambition, then you're part of the problem. Chairman Randall, I think that we have clarified a couple of things, but we are specifically talking about tax money too, because in sterling alone, $292,000 has gone to the genocide, and Viab has been funded in by Virginia State in our budget since 1996. And just for 2024 alone, $224,000 have been taken away from what we could allocate to affordable housing, health equity, combating environmental devastation and invasive species. And imagine if we just invested into small businesses. And finally to close, the amount of diversity we have here in Loudoun County is amazing, but that turnout that I just saw for the Hispanic Heritage Proclamation is pretty sad. It's really sad. So I'm asking, are we connected to our community organizations in this county because I'm not seeing that? We have a lot of work to do. Thank you. Thank you, thank you very much. All right, that was all of our speakers. Supervisor Mr. Kirschner would like to be part of a closed session, he's working to do that. And so I'm going to try to make that happen. We're gonna finish the agenda before we go to closed session, but we do need a break. So let's take a tim in a break and then we'll come back and see agenda before we go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. 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You guys sounded like you just learned the meaning of life. Oh. That's weird. Okay. We are back and we're going to do, let's go and do nominations and then we will do the next item. We have nominations, please put your light on. Ms. Amstet. Thank you Madam Chair. I'd like to nominate Tom Solitario for the Communications Commission and Thomas Sachsen for the Leesburg Executive Airport Commission. That's it. Just to say, thank you. I'd like to nominate Ken Brits for the sterling seats. Oh no, excuse me, this will be at an at one of the at large seats for the art advisory committee. And I'd like to nominate Bob Saltsman for an at large alternate seat on the board of equalization. Okay, Mr. Turner. MacMam Chair, I nominate Ray Hall and Haydor to the Loud and Health Commission to fill the Ashburn District representative position. I nominate William Allen Cochran on behalf of Supervisor Kirshner to the Historic District View Committee to fill in at large position. Thank you, Mr. Tukroni. Thank you, Chair Randall. I nominate Jean Galan to the at large seat on the Heritage Commission. I nominate Elizabeth Ellers to an at large seat on the Historic District View Committee. And Richard Smith Wilkinson for the at large seat on the Art Advisory Committee. I nominate Tina Irman to the Farm Bureau Representative's seat. All right, so by just let's do work comments real quick before we go to do anything else because then we can do, once we do the reaction item and then close session, we're then done. So it would be done. So let's go with Ms. Glass first. Thank you, Madam Chair. On Tuesday, September 24th, two disclosures I met with representatives from Cyrus 1 to discuss the Cyrus 1 Broadlands application. On October 1st, my staff met with representatives from VanMeet to discuss the warm commercial application. Regional updates of me or my staff have gone to a number of regional meetings, one's NACO Arts and Culture Commission meeting, Clean Air Partners Board Meeting, the Metropolitan Washington air quality committee listening session, which was on September 21st, which was really interesting. It was a group that wanted to discuss air quality and our take on what we're doing in Loudon County and how we can focus on air pollution and they are talking to other groups and other areas of the region. in Education Committee meeting, the Joint Bedco Education and Finance Elections steering committee meeting, the Women of the NECO meeting, and the Northern Virginia Regional Commission meeting. Thank you Madam Chair. Okay, no comments? About anything else? Just in general, because it's your board comments. No, I can't think of anything right now. No comments. Okay, thank you very much. Miss Amstet. No no disclosures and no board comments. Thank you. Mr. Saints. I did that on purpose. Just for the kick and the giggle. It's the saying. No, nothing, nothing, no, no. Mr. Crony. All right. Thank you, Chair Randall. On September 23 and 24, I met with Colleen Gillis, Angela Rahas and others regarding Fleetwood North. On September 25, I met with Colleen Gillis, Amanda Williams, David Ramsey and James Brothers regarding the Arcolla Center application. So I am happy to announce the official opening of the Beaver Dam Reservoir Park to the public on Tuesday, October 22nd. There will be a ribbon cutting on Monday, October 21st. This is going to be a great new park next to Brambleton in Ashburn. And since 2019, the design teams and construction crews have been hard at work creating loudens first waterfront park at the 350 acre beaver dam reservoir. This park is being funded and constructed under a partnership between loud and water which maintains the reservoir and Nova parks, the Northern Virginia Regional Park Authority. Reservoir Park will have an access point by the ballfields at Brambleton Community Park off Belmont Ridge Road in North Star Boulevard and it will feature new entrance parking lot, welcome center, restroom building, crew rowing facility, boat rental facility, pavilions, trails, waterfront, boardwalks, a bridge, and an educational exhibits. There will be a natural surface trail that will run around the lake in a seven mile loop called a reservoir circuit trail. And the area is also a very valuable habitat for a wide variety of wildlife. So I hope everybody will come out on the 22nd for the official opening. I know people have been waiting and have been emailing my office. It's gonna be a great park for the community. I wanna thank everybody who came to the Dulles South community park town hall. We had a great showing and I wanna thank staff who came and helped answer some questions And then I also want to thank the speakers who came out tonight I really value your voice and your feedback. Thank you. Thank you very much Mr. Turner Thank you, ma'am sure Wednesday September 19th my staff Denise Hariver from vanmeter companies to discuss the application for arm farm resuming. On Friday September 20th, my staff and I met with Collin Gillis and Ben Wales from Kurata Partners, Tim Row and Angela Rassus from Angela Rassus from Tobrothers, as well as Ryan Conner from Urban LTD to discuss the application for Fleetwood North. On Tuesday September 24th, my staff and I joined with supervisor Gilles and her staff for meeting with Kathleen Leonard, Dominic Minor, Colton Ford, Melissa Stevens, Andrew Mollinaris, Robert Bartstown, Wesley Allen from Dominion Energy, Brad Hout, Eric Hager, and Steve Schmidt from Cyrus One, Brian Clifford, and Antonio Calabrese from DLA Piper, Bruce McCloud and Jim Lamb from Commonwealth Consulting as well as Ron Meyer from RMA LLC to discuss the application for Cyrus One. On Monday September 30th I met with Philip McCauley, John Stephenson and Caitlin Monahan from Vantage Data Centers to discuss the application for Vantage VA 3. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you very much, Ms. Brooksman. Thank you, Madam Chair. By way of disclosures, on September 19th, I met with Colleen Gillis about a potential future application in Algonquin District. On October 1st, I had a meeting with Mike Romeo about Belmont Executive Plaza. Last week, staff joined us along with representatives from Navaha and an affordable housing project organization for an attainable housing town hall at the senior center at Cascades. It was really informative. Got a lot of great feedback. It's really nice to be able to have a conversation and answer questions when we're not like on the day is limited to the time clock and limited to the specific application we're not like on the day is limited to the time clock and limited to the specific application we're talking about. So I think staff for coming to that and the recording is on my Facebook page if anyone wants to watch the livestream. We had LCS Recovery School roundtable which was productive discussing that initiative in LCPS and I know you will all be excited to know that you are sitting on the day with I believe the county's first supervisor who is a certified tourism ambassador so I So I attended. Yeah. I looked at the Quran, like, are you? I got the button. I got the pin. Anyway, I had heard folks from Visit Loud and talking about this over the past couple of years. And I thought, well, I think I will ask if I can go get certified. And of course, you know, Ms. Erickson said, of course, come. And so I was out at Blumont Station the other day for a half day training session, talking all about, you know, tourism nationally and tourism for the county. And I think I can get points if I go to the Waterford Fair this weekend. I can get points toward my recertification. Anyway, so it was super helpful. If you guys ever have time to do it, it's really a nice thing to do just to have an understanding of sort of the other lens that our business owners are looking through and our restaurants and our breweries might be looking through and how things work with Visit Loudon and how things work on the national level. It was really, really interesting and informative. And yes, I do plan to go to the Waterford Fair this weekend. I think I'm going on Friday. As far as the Gun Violence Archive Statistics, there have been 12,776 total gun deaths this year in 2024. That is also we had 411 mass shootings. The deaths include 183 children under the age of 11. And 876 teens ages 12 to 17, my staff did tell me that from the last business meeting to this business meeting, 600 of those deaths occurred. Thank you Madam Chair. And the last business meeting, this business meeting, 600 of those deaths occurred. Thank you Madam Chair. Thank you. I have one disclosure. I'm Friday September 27th. My chief is staff met with the applicant from the Arcola town center residential. Couple things. One, the many, many thousands of people in our country are dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. It hit areas that we did not expect, it was not forecasted to hit especially in North Carolina. And so all of our prayers and thoughts are with them. I am trying to watch out for any opportunities that I will post and put up and send out. Usually when something like this happens, they don't want to have you send things. They want to have you send money to different organizations. It's really important to make sure those organizations are correct organizations that are going to do the right thing with the money. But as I keep trying to look, I will post those organizations and we are all just devastated by what we're seeing in Georgia and Florida and North Carolina and Tennessee. The devastation is widespread and probably will take even quite friendly decades to clear up if it would ever be the same. Some, as real, I think North Carolina was almost completely wiped out. It is just, as of coming to the day of tonight, there was 130 people who had been confirmed dead. And there probably would be many more because there were many more missing. And so it is just horrific. I also want to make note that today is the 100th birthday of Jimmy Carter. Yes. Jimmy Carter, I think, is one of the most amazing men. And I think he's probably had the most influential and important post presidency of any president we've ever had. I don't know any president has ever done as much as he has post presidency. He has a lot of things that he has said, but I want to read one of my favorite comments from him. He said, this is from Jimmy Carter, I have one life and one chance to make account for something. My faith demands that I do whatever I can, wherever I am, whenever I can, for as long as I can, whatever I have to try to make a difference. That's amazing, and he really has made quite a difference. And so we all wanna just acknowledge that we have somebody who turned 100 years old and such, such a good man. From all the work he has done to the Carter Center, Habitat for Humanity, that just in 2023 built 13 million homes just just in 2023 alone. So to me Carter is truly a magnificent human being. And finally I want to say that Loudoun County was very represented, will be very represented in the 50 most influential people from Northern Virginia, Dr. Aaron Spitz, who is from our superintendent of LCPS, is one of them, as his buddy, Ryzer, who is, you know, a continuous, complete, all-the-time rock star. You cannot pick up any publication or magazine or anything that you do not see, buddy, Ryzer. We are so lucky to have him. He is just the Maestro in so many ways. And Beth Erickson, who was just here tonight from Visit Loudon, she is also one of them. Beth, although she thinks spotted lanternflies are good looking bugs, who knows what that's about. But no, it's not. They're just bugs. Beth is, which she has done with visit loud and has been absolutely amazing. Everything from the wine tours to the weddings. And she, she and buddy, I think over the past year, took some undo incoming. And I think that this is so gratifying to me that they have both been chosen. As has LCPS and Dr. Spins and we also have a couple of people who are for nonprofits in Loud and County. So Loud and County would be very, very well represented at the event on October 10th. So I want to say congratulations to all of them. All right, we're gonna go on to share. I think you forgot something. I did not, I did not get anything. No, no, no, no, no, no, you're out of order. So you're out of order, you are out of order. So we're gonna go on to item number 5A with everyone on 5A, which is a federal aviation administration community process, to mitigate air traffic noise come down to the front, please. Madam Chair. Can I, can I say a comment? Why, no, this is about this item, this about this item. I'm, that's, yeah. Can I say something about before that goes regarding this side because I think make a phone call. If you want to make a phone call. Can I make a comment real quickly? Yes, if you want to make a comment before staff presents you want to point a personal privilege. I guess that's what you want to call it. That's what I said before. Perfect. Okay, so real quick now just say the last time this item was up, asked a question, got an answer from staff, so I reacted to the answer from staff, but turns out the answer from staff is not 100% accurate. So I got my emotions, get the better of me, and I said that the company in question was not, a question they're integrity. I would like to retract that statement, saying that their integrity is not on board, and just say simply that my antennas are up and I'll leave it at that Thank you Okay, all right. Hi. How are you? Good evening chair Randall four members and we are ready when you are okay There's no there's no PowerPoint tonight. I'll just offer some brief prepared comments so that I can offer some context and then we'll ask the board to give direction. So as you indicated, Chair Randall, this is a continuation of the discussion on staff efforts to address airport and overflight noise in the area of Delis Airport. This item was last before the board May 23rd. And at that May meeting staff presented on an expanded community engagement plan. That the board endorsed and directed staff to proceed with. The board also directed staff to include the aloft group as a subcontractor on that project team. So that happened toward the end of May. So right after that we were off and working with the contractor team to establish the new work agreement. The item came back before the board for discussion, not as a staff item but the board discussed this effort generally at both July business meetings and provided direction to staff. So to recount that direction on July 2, the board provided direction to staff that effectively restricted any additional county residents who live in the projects to find study area from participating as paid contractors in the same project. So that was the July 2nd direction. On July 16th, the board forwarded discussion of that motion to the September T-Luck meeting and the board's discussion on that motion on July 16th contemplated that an NDA, a non-disclosure agreement, may be sufficient to address concerns about proper dissemination of information. In that week, right after the July meeting, staff was working with the contractor team. The vineyard change order proposal now includes the confidentialitylause that was prompted by the Board's July 16th discussion and that Confidentiality Clause establishes expectations and responsibilities for the treatment of project team correspondence and confidential information. An authorized sharing of project information by either the contractor or the subcontractor would be a breach of contract by the contractor. So we have that clause in the work agreement now. It was prompted by the board's discussion in July. So we did go to the September T. Luck meeting that was September 18th and T. Luck recommended 5-0. The board rescind its July 2 direction to staff regarding contractor eligibility, subject to execution of a non-disclosure agreement between the contractor and the subcontractor or a similar instrument deemed appropriate by the county attorney's office. So that was the T-Luck recommendation is that the board resend its July 2 direction to staff. Staff is not providing a recommendation on that specific point. What we're doing is we're back here to ask for the board's full direction. T-Luck did recommend 50 to rescind the July 2 direction. That's the motion that's in your packet is to carry that forward. And so staff's request is that the full board discuss and provide direction to staff on that point. Okay. Thank you, sir. We could probably go to a motion, Mr. Turner, would you like to make a motion? Thank you, Matt Chair. I move the recommendation of the Transportation and land use committee that the board of supervisors were sitting in the July 2, 2024 direction to staff regarding contractor eligibility, subject execution of a non disclosure agreement between the contractor and subcontractor or similar instrument deemed appropriate by the county attorney's office. Second. Sorry. Is the governor made in second at his motion Sorry. Mr. Turner made and seconded his motion. Seconded by Mr. Crony. Discussion on the motion, Mr. Turner. Thank you, ma'am. Chair. In a nutshell, T-Lock and in consultation with staff, basically, said what we really, the relationship between the county staff is with, via an vine air the principal contractor Whatever relationship they establish with their subcontractors between them and their subcontractor and the There's a confidential out of agreement between county staff and the contractor and We felt that it's up to the contractor to decide which members of the community that are part of a law group or a law group is free to decide whoever they want to hire in accordance with the contractors wishes. And they certainly can solve the problem with a non disclosure agreement or a confidentiality agreement between the contractor and the subcontractor. However, that is not the county's purview and it's not our interest. We leave that up to Viannear. The only caveat with that is we need to review the nondisclosure agreement between the contractor and the subcontractor to make sure it doesn't have provisions in it that are directly in conflict with the county's non-confidential agreement with the contractor. As long as those are in alignment on the details and don't leave us open any legal issues, our relationship is with the contractor and will allow the contractor to do what they will do with the subcontractor. And everybody was at agreement that's probably the cleanest and easiest way to move forward. Thank you. Thank you for all the explanations, sir. Mr. Cronin. Thank you, Chair Randall. So yeah, thank yeah thank you supervisor Turner. I think we've finally come to a place that where we can move forward. By an air stated that a loft will add value because it's part of the community and they have such great aviation knowledge to really bring this project to accomplish the goals of the project. And by any or keep supporting the aloft group in the project team because of their physical presence in the area. So I think it makes perfect sense to keep them on as a subcontractor and leverage all the work that they've done to date and a non-disclosure agreement is something that's standard in the industry. We have tons of non-disclosure agreements with other other other contractors. So this is this is common. And I think a lot of meetings will be public. I want to put that out there. So it's not like there's any confidential information. I feel that nothing's being kept secret or away from the public. And I do wanna thank engaged community members, particularly Carolyn McCulley and Tom Lintler, who have invested significant time to help us understand the complexities of the problem and help us move forward with solutions. I support their community involvement and I look forward to accomplishing the objective of reducing aircraft noise. So I think this is a great way to move forward. And thank you. Thank you. Miss Umstuk. Thank you Madam Chair. I just want to make sure that the county attorney, that his advice is consistent with this motion. Mr. Rogers? Absolutely, yes it is. All right, thank you. Ms. Brooksman. Thank you, Madam Chair. So the other issue that we, I feel as if the reason we voted this way on July 2nd was also because we didn't want residents who already had a strong advocacy role on the committee or something like that. Does this eliminate that as well? Does this motion eliminate that rule for lack of a better word? That wasn't... So this, what the non-disclosure agreement would get get at is the dissemination of information because one of the people that we were considering on the contract team has other enterprises such as a podcast. Yeah. So we just wanted to make sure that there was some codified protocols in place. Okay. We just had to treat information. Okay. It also in the item it says, county staff understands that by and air and county staff together can deliver the full project without the addition of subcontractor support. You still are of that belief. That could happen. So the board has options. Okay. I mean, I guess I'm fine with it. that could happen. So the board has options. Okay. I mean, I guess I'm fine with it, but I mean, I know that the physical presence of the A-loft group here is, I guess, good, but we also are here, right? Like we represent constituents that live in the whole county. So I don't know that that would sell me on a loft being the experts that are needed. But anyway, I guess that's fine. I'm good, thank you. So I will simply say that we have so many citizens in Loudoun County who are willing to work on their own time to for something that they care about. And often what you care about is what impacts you because the community you live in, so it's right in front of you, so it's not unusual to work on things that are impacting your community. That's not unusual at all. And in fact, we want to encourage people to work on things that are impacting their community. And it would be almost, I mean, I guess somebody who is not at all impacted by your craft noise could come over and work on that, but that's not normally the way that happens. And so I would just simply say that we, not to make assumptions, that just because somebody may get a benefit from something because they live in an area does not mean they're seeking any other types of benefits because that is just not something that we can never know for sure. And so I am really glad that staff and the citizens and T-Lock, and everybody kind of worked in a really effective and I think positive way to try to clear up some of the clear up some things here. And I think this is a really good outcome. So I'm really happy about this one. Hey Mr. Kurs glad to have you here. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. I'm going to be here soon. Mr., Mr. Would you like to have a closing? I'm like the spotted Landon fly I'm a tramp, but a nuisance. The closing comments, I just want to thank everybody. The Alopc group, Tom and Carolyn and Vyneir, Jim and Vyneir and the whole Vyneir team and county staff. This has been a heavy lift. I think most of us knew it was going to be this when we voted in the AOD. Seems like decades ago. But we really do appreciate the hard work, hoping this will bear fruit here before too long. Thank you, Madam Chair. All right, I want people to say hi. Hi. Any opposed? Any abstention? So that would be six to one with Mr. Kersner and Ms. Prickstmann abstaining and Mr. Luterno not being on the days. I am going to ask Ms. Prickstmann to read us into closed sessions. Where'd Mr. Where'd he go? I got a call. Okay, well. Yeah. One and two. I move that the Board of Supervisors recess this public meeting and enter in closed session pursuant to section two Excuse me point two dash three seven one one a seven and eight of the of the code of Virginia to consult with legal counsel Employer retained and staff members pertaining to actual and or probable litigation and a zoning ordinance amendment requiring the Provision of legal advice by council. 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So, let me say before we vote and certify that Mr. Kershner was here, when we voted to go into closed session, he was then called away. So, he did not attend closed session with this at all. So, he does not need to certify that nothing happened because he was, he never stepped foot in closed us at all. So he does not need to certify that nothing happened because he was, he never stepped foot in closed session at all. So first we're vote and then we will affirm. On people who say aye. Any opposed? Would everybody please affirm, Ms. Amstel? Affirm. Affirm. Affirm. Affirm. Affirm. Affirm. And I affirm as well that both will pass 603. I think that is everything. We are adjourned.