All right, Council Members, just 601 PM. I'd like to call the voting session to order. We've already had the roll call and we've already had a pledge of allegiance in a moment of silence. Roll call please, Ms. Lawrence. Mr. Hoss. Here. Ms. Krishnowski. Here. Mr. Luskav. Here. Ms. McDarban. Here. Mr. Ferri. Here. Mr. Stevenson. Here. Mr. Thornton? Here. Mr. Willowicz? Here. Mr. Luzardo? Here. All right. Thank you. We have several proclamations. We'll be still. All right. All right. We'll have one proclamation. For suicide prevention law. Where has September is national suicide prevention month and time to remember the lives lost to suicide, acknowledge the millions more who have experienced suicidal thoughts in the many individuals, families, and communities that have been impacted by suicide. It's also a time to raise awareness about suicide prevention and share messages of hope. Where I have suicide affects millions of people and touches every community across the US, parents, caregivers, friends, and neighbors, we're all in some ways impacted by suicide in our everyday lives. Where I have suicides a public health emergency, we need to invest in programs that support mental health and well-being together. You can create a world where everyone has the resources they need to thrive. Whereas suicide can affect anyone regardless of background. We must break down barriers and provide support for all. Let's work together to create a world where everyone feels seen, her and valued. Whereas just like it takes a village to raise a child, it takes a community care. We can all make a difference in someone's life. I learned how to support those considering suicide. Consider, or together, we can create a stronger, more compassionate community. Whereas Louis Art County recognizes the valuable contributions from Theo Watkins to our community as a Youth Mental Health advocate. Whereas Theo is a dedicated member of the Eftabitum Mental Health advocate, whereas Theo is a dedicated member of the Freedom Mental Health Awareness Club at Northwest High School. A medium means I've got your back, is a network of clubs that empowers students to break the silence around mental health and suicide. Theo has excelled as a youth mentor by sharing her personal experiences with mental health, whereas Theo and artists with a positive message for suicide prevention has helped MHDS create a suicide prevention poster that will be shared across loser and winemaking counties. Now therefore we lose our county council here by present this prop of nation to deal with the walkins for our dedication to Thank you very much. Would you like to speak? I apologize. Go ahead. It's a mic. I just wanted to say thank you for this. It was a struggle dealing with my mental health. I just wanted to say thank you for this. It was a struggle dealing with my mental health and I know for a fact how much I've progressed but it's had a just be then me alone. It's been Mr. Martin, Miss Abby, Miss Gaspert, and my mother, who helped me a long way. So I would say thank you to you for this, and I would like to say thank you to them. Okay. Other information from the voting session agenda? Is there a motion to adopt the agenda? So motion? Second. Second. On favor? I, I, I, opposed. All right. The agenda has been adopted. We'll have public comment on voting session agenda items only. I know there are quite a few slips up here. Most of them are for a non-agenda item. This public comment section is only for items that are currently on our voting session agenda. So if you have something, please go for it, come up with it on the agenda. First up, we have Philip C. Dale? I think he's outside. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's outside. Mr. Dale? All right. You have a voting session agenda. Do you like to address? Well, I understand that the session is dealing with drop boxes. So you'll be able to speak about that, but you'll have to speak at the second public comment session, which is at the end of this meeting. I did not see what the agenda is. I didn't see it on the... There should be copies of it, or there were copies on the round. So I'll pardon me for that. I did not see what the agenda is. I didn't see it. There should be copies of it or there were copies on the right. So I'll pardon me for that. Yeah, that's okay. We'll call you back up. Okay, let me take a look at the agenda and see if part of that is part of that. Yeah, we'll see. We'll call you. Yeah, eat your head now. I was just wondering why you were shaking your head. They dropped out because I'm not on the agenda. Well, I didn't have the agenda in my hand. I'm shaking my head. That's appropriate. All right, that's okay. So we follow them. We just start off. Thank you. I'm chancellled to be a agenda. You can speak at the end. Very good. Thank you very much. No problem. Okay, Mr. Griffith. Mr. Griffith? Yeah. Mr. Griffith? Yes. PD Lee and Council, agenda items. I have comment on as five, number five and seven and eight. Number five is in motion to adopt the resolution of moving the contractor link revenue. As the county control or somebody who audits a tax collector that the county I will tell you that the lead revenue company has been fabulous to work with over past couple of years that I had the opportunity to work with that department for the development taxes. The staff is very cooperative and very helpful. So I encourage the council to consider that under voting on whether to accept their contract. I think they're a organization-a good things for the county on our bilingual tax basis as well as our past tax revenue collection. So consider that if you would. My number seven, I want to, number eight, I'll jump to eight first. On number eight, I just want to thank the council for considering using the interest funds for the council, uh, bridge, council work bridge. This may be Councilwoman McDermott and myself who live out there in Mr. Haas. We, we try to out that way extensively. That bridge is much needed to repair needs to be done. So I applaud Council for trying to allocate the interest fund, at least to help facilitate that. I know it's a, it's a big task for the municipalities to handle, and that money will come very handy for those repairs. And lastly, on number seven, the issue about the government study commission and council, I've voiced my opinion about the charter concerns. Council needs to consider the workload that the council clerk, the council has currently. There's an extensive amount of lead time accumulated by the clerk to councilor, because she can't take any time off. This is not a good quality of life for an individual of works for this county. To give her another task to do, is gonna be just another extra work for that person to do. On top of all the other duties, we have to get codification done for council. We have no more committees that have a man and a councilor can meet what would be the priority for the clerk councilor council wants to call committee me. Well, they have to wait because we have government study commission schedule. Those are the things that this council needs to consider before you approve that. I think this is certainly deserving of the extra income as well as and can do the job. I'm not concerned about that at all. I think she's perfectly qualified to do that. And you can do it. My concern is what you counsel and your ability to function here on counsel is that extra duty. So, I would strongly urge you to get a job description from the government's site and mission as to what her duties will be at the time you're requiring this for us. So you have a pretty good idea of what time should the need to perform those tasks and how will affect the council. So that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Griffith. Thank you, Mr. Griffith. Anybody else from Public College on agenda items only? Anybody in the audience? Okay, anybody on the Zoom for agenda items only? Mark? Mr. Chair, this is Mark Raybo-Benz, this is big and tiny airman. Yes, we can, Mr. Raybo-Benz, go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regards to the hazard mitigation plan, I don't know what number that is making versus six, I believe, on the agenda. I would like to remind council the last time the hazard mitigation plan was hired, or the council was hired, and the contract is to do the work with Plan zoning director. The insult in watershed was left out of the Azure mitigation plan that was put into the County comprehensive plan a few years ago but it was left out of the Azure mitigation plan due to our deadline that would have been next. So I hope that this 2025 plan would put in the Hazleton watershed that is in compasses, not only in southern New Zealand County, but also the northern parts of school and art and counties because that affects 180,000 residents. And Mr. Chair, you would say a first responder would be well aware to know that watershed land affects first responders in terms of putting out fires and for droughts. So it would rule the county to have that put in because that affects the key lump grants if there was ever to be a problem with droughts and fires that would stem in the future. And as far as the bridges that are being taken care of by the interest, I would, Mr. Chair, we heard that Council in the county manager will into utilizing the municipal authorities that we have like the redevelopment authority, industrial development authority, as leverage to into getting federal and state grants for the capital budget to replenish the capital budget, one of those broken bridges that are needed, the other roads and broken bridges that are needed, the other roads are broken bridges that are needed to be taken care of. That's all I have. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Ray Boni. Anybody else for public comment on agenda items only? All right, hearing none. Is there a motion to approve the minutes of the September 10, 2024 voting session? I'll be to move. Second. Patti for me. There's a motion to second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Minutes are approved. Now move into the agenda. Number one, motion to adopt the ordinance and then in 2024, fiscal year budget for the Zarian County for M.H.D.S. So move. Second. Roll call. Mr. Haas. Yes. Ms. Krishnowsky? Yes. Mr. Laskavind. Yes. Ms. McDermott? Yes. Mr. Perry? Yes. Sorry. Mr. Sarvotino? Yes. Ms. Smith? Yes. Ms. Stevenson? Yes. Mr. Stevenson? Yes. Mr. Thornton? Yes. Mr. Willowicz? Yes. Mr. Lombardo? Yes. He does. Number two, motion to adopt your ordinance in 90 to 2024, fiscal year budget to reserve county multimodal. So moved? Second. There's a motion in a second. Roll call. Ms. Krishnowski? Yes. Mr. Luskiewicz? Yes. Mr. McDermott? Yes. Mr. Perry? Yes. Mr. Sabatino? Yes. Mr. Smith? Yes. Mr. Thornton? Yes. Mr. Willowicz? Yes. Mr. Hose? Yes. Mr. Lombardo? Yes. No. No. Mr. Lusca, Mr. Dermott, Mr. Perry, Mr. Sabatino, Mr. Smith, Mr. Stevenson, Mr. Thornton, Mr. Willovic? Yes. Mr. Haas? Yes. Mr. Krishnowski? Yes. Mr. Lombardo? Yes. You have to miss. Number four, motion to adopt the resolution regarding recommendations from the county's first manager, Zigman in company, Zigman in company regarding security bond work session limits to protect against risk of loss for calendar 2025. Show who? Second. First, motion to the second. Mr. McDermott? Yes, Mr. Perry? Mr. Sabatino? Yes. Mr. Smith? Yes. Mr. Stevenson? Yes. Mr. Thornton? Yes. Mr. Willow? Yes. Mr. Halles? Yes. Mr. Krishnamsky? Yes. Mr. Lewis-Gabbins? Yes. Mr. Lombardo? Yes. You know, Mr. Smith? Yes. I have motion to adopt the resolution of permanent contract, the lead revenue solutions, LLC for the collection of delinquent, real estate tax services. So moved. Second. There's a motion and a second. Roll call. Mr. Perry. Yes. Mr. Sabatino. Yes. Ms. Smith. Yes. Ms. Stevenson. Yes. Mr. Thornton. Yes. Mr. Lovitch. Yes. Mr. Krishnowski. Yes. Mr. Laskavage. Yes. Mr. McDervick. Yes. Mr. Lombardo. Yes. No. 6. Motion to adopt the resolution improvement of contract with Michael Baker International Incorporated to perform the 2025 Hazard Vignation Plant Update. So, second, there's a motion. And a second, I second on the question. Chair, go ahead and start. I agree with the comments by Mr. Raebo that the age of to watershed area should be included in that plan. So I hope they to include that. Thank you. Thank you. It will be. Thank you, Andrew Carpmer. Any other discussion? Roll call? Mr. Savitina? Yes. Missino. Yes. Ms. Smith. Yes. Ms. Stevenson. Yes. Mr. Thornton. Yes. Mr. Willoffice. Yes. Mr. Hoss. Yes. Ms. Krishnowski. Yes. Mr. Laskavage. Yes. Ms. McDermott. Yes. Mr. Perry. Yes. Now for seven motion requiring the clerk of council and the government study commission I have the language for the motion so I may not make it. I'd like to move that was there a county council author right Sharon Lawrence to assist the government study commission by attending and recording meetings posting agenda and minutes to the website advertising meetings and reserving the council room and other duties as requested by the government study commission as sheriff before it's these functions for county council she is authorized to also assist the study commission as Sheriff performs these functions for county council. She is authorized to also assist the study commission. Sheriff will be compensated by the Governor's study commission as appropriately budgeted and documented in time attendance. I have a question. But from all of the favor of this Lawrence assisting the governor's study commission and those duties, the thing that concerns, that's not actually a job description, was it's just the thing that concerns me is the language where it says other duties as required by the Governor of the State Commission, one of the, how much they could add out and put around the one of the way. Right. So my understanding is that essentially she'd be performing the same duties that she does for County Council, just for the government study commission. There were a number of things that she does that aren't exactly listed in that motion. She says that she posts the agenda, but she also creates the agenda for the foot of study commission and other things of that nature. So that's why there is some ambiguity in the end. There's nothing that she'd be doing. that's anything out of the realm of what you do essentially for council. And I personally spoke to Miss Lawrence about this. She said she's okay with taking on the extra responsibility. And I mean, this is not what it is, so I don't want to, I'm not mispeeding what I say to this, but she, I, I Basically said she should treat it as though it's another, um, another one of our ABCs that she does That type of stuff for so You know, that's pretty much what it is There's some other questions. Yeah, so the format that is essentially is going to be a subcontractor, which is going to contract that, which you pay through the county, will the commission reimburse the county or the commission will have to reimburse the county. So it will be through the county payroll office that that will have a section. Okay. Yeah. And if you want the specifics on that, we can discuss that for a minute. The important thing is that she's not taking on can discuss that for a moment. The important thing is, okay, Ms. Lawrence, and she's not taking on. Yeah, right. I'm doing responsibility in heart. Yeah, so. Okay, why does one make sure it's that, Mr. Barnes? Yeah, Mr. Hoss was just raised a question to my wife, so if she's being paid through credit pay, and her hours between the Commonwealth City Commission and the normal hours here of her council clerk if they turn it to 50, 60 hours a week does she get paid overtime? On the time we, I would say I don't believe so but Ms. Rosaldeal, comment on that? I think it's really an exorbitant question but the anticipation of the outcome is... Right. So we're probably the same. Yes. I just want to say, McDermott, you have a question? I'm just, I can kiss her, I'll start it later. Oh, okay. All right, any other questions by Councilman? I guess that one, we're sorry, I don't want to believe it. But so she already puts you in the hours of the City Commission, and she can compensate for that time. Well, that covered that as well. Because essentially, she's a and comes right. I believe that's been part of the conversation. Over. Yeah. We will provide retro time. Not only for this Lawrence, but for RIT and our shares. These are better. That's wonderful. Thank you. And Mary Grozo. Mary. Not this area. The other Mary. Any other questions by council members? Oh, I apologize. Mr. Speaker, is there any conflict adventures with her working both for the government and the government that she is studying? No, she will not be making any policy decisions. No, she will not be making any policy decisions. No, she will not be making any policy decisions. And whatever they are doing, they'll have separate mail. They won't have access to council chambers. So the duties will be approximately the same, but there'll be a demarcation between the two positions. Mr. Santino, have the slow-circuited government of study commission as you concur with your assessment? I believe he was consulted. He was, but my assessment of allowing his law to share his law and support the American study commission. He doesn't see any objections. He requested it. Thank you. Any other questions? Roll call. Ms. Smith? Yes. Ms. Stevenson. Yes, Mr. Thornton? Yes. Mr. Willow and Mr. Haas? Yes. Ms. Krishnowski? Yes. Mr. Lnton. Yes. Mr. Willovins. Yes. Mr. Haas. Yes. Mr. Krishnowski. Yes. Mr. Laskavage. Yes. Mr. McDermott. Yes. Mr. Perry. Yes. Mr. Sveta. Yes. Mr. Lombardo. Yes. New Danim. Number 8, Motion to Adopt the Resolution Mr. Chair. Second. Mr. Chair. There's a motion and a second. Got it. Just for further clarification, this motion is to act toward $1.9 million. It's an air civil problem. That's correct. All right. How's the question? Anybody? Roll call. Mr. Stevenson. Yes. Mr. Thornton. Yes. Mr. Willovich. Yes. Mr. Hough, Mr. Krzyszowski, Mr. Lyskiewicz, Mr. McDermott, Mr. Perry, Mr. Sabatino, Mr. Smith, let's get bridges done. Mr. Libardo, you can move. Number 9, motion to adopt the resolution, allocating American Rescue Plan, in response for use to replace the sleepy hollow bridge and Butler Township. So, second motion and a second chair. Yes, likewise, for clarification, it offers $1.2 million for this bridge project. Any other comments, questions? Roll call. Mr. Thornton. Yes. Mr. Woolovans. Yes. Mr. Nas. Yes. Mr. Krznyowski Mr. Maws. Mr. Krznyowski. Mr. Willowicz. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Willowicz. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Mawski. Mr. Maws items. I do have several slips up here. I also would like to say I know that there are a lot of people in the audience that have comments they'd like to make on certain issues and certainly do so. I would only ask that if there are members of any audience that are not from Luzern County, could you please allow Luzern County members, residents, and taxpayers to speak first and then you can speak after that. First up I have Mr. Venus. Okay. Good evening, everyone. Mr. Lombardi, we'd like to know when I'm on the clock. All right. Can you state your name in your municipality? Please follow, Venus, and we'll return. Okay. Good evening, Chairman Lombardi. Vice Chairman Thornton, members of Council Manager Krokenmo. Generally, I try to stay out of this stuff as much as possible, but tonight I wanted to come down and essentially repeat something I've heard controller Griffith say many times when I was on council, which is the word kudos. Kudos to you manager Crocomo for doing what you felt is in the best interest of the county despite the fact that you may not agree with everything. Who knows to you for putting the county first? I make no secret. I opposed the drop boxes when I was on council. I opposed the drop boxes then. I opposed the drop boxes now. I believe that they were putting to place to be a temporary measure. They were never intended to be permanent. We are now four years out from the worst of the pandemic. At this point we look around the room. What about this room looks like it did back in 2020 when these measures were put in place. When you go to the grocery store, when you live your general daily life, what is the same? Nothing. Except for when it comes to the electoral system, it seems like then we have to keep the same procedures in place. So I am about to be 37 years old. I have lived through or I'm going into my 38th year of elections. I think the first 33 of them, we had no paladrop boxes. And everyone who wanted to vote was able to vote. There are alternates available. My grandmother voted in person until she was about, in her late 70s when she just couldn't do it anymore. At that point she went and she got absentee ballot and she was able to vote that way. It's just completely mind-boggling that we still think we need these things. There's no reason for it. Now, I know a term that it's put out there a lot is disenfranchising voters. My answer is always a question. How is this disenfranchising voters? We have election day in person voting as we did previously, absentee ballots, now we have mail-in ballots. All you have to do is put a stamp on your ballot, put it in the mailbox. How is that disenfranchising anyone? And as far as I think I read in the paper today with regards to what about the people who want to vote the week before? Those same people were able to vote in every who want to vote the week before? Those same people were able to vote in every election prior to 2020. I just don't see the issue. Now you have to balance that against the need for us as a county to have fair and secure elections. That's important. And the manager, she's the one who has to face these decisions. She's the one who has to come up against these security concerns that us as the public probably don't even know everything about. Thank you Ms. Finns. And just real quick, great to see you all. Manager Krokemo, keep doing an awesome job. You're awesome. Great work, great work, Paul. You thank you all, great. Thank you. Applause. All right, next up, Philip C. Dale. Mr. Dale? I think he's outside. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Mr. Dale. Oh, thank you very much. My apologies. Can you just take your name and municipality, please? Oh, full. Dale. Thank you very much. My policy, can you just take your name and municipality, please? Oh, foot, Dale. D is a dog, and it's not. My apologies before I didn't understand the process, but I'm here to discuss the voting in this great nation of ours. We have a wonderful opportunity to cast a ballot for a candidate of our choice. The integrity of that voting system is extremely important. And I think it's to some degree in jeopardy across the nation, not only in our own communities and in our own county, but across the nation, not only in our own communities and in our own county, but across the nation. So it's important for us to keep close to silent that ballot drop boxes are an open opportunity for some disruption of the integrity of that system. There are as a prior speaker, as I had mentioned, there are many ways in order to cast a ballot, and to have it cast it as one person, one vote for candidates of choice. Boutboxes open the opportunity for about harvesting, along with other fraudulent activities that can take place in our system. So I think it's very, very important for us to consider how we do that. So you might say, oh, well, they're safe. So everything in our voting system, we've heard it repeatedly in our media that our voting system is perfectly fine. There is no fraud, there's no issues, there's no concerns. Take a look at your voter rolls across the state of Pennsylvania. We are not very good at managing our voter rolls. Look at the state of Texas. They just reviewed, look at the state of Virginia. They just reviewed and look how many people have been taking off of voter rolls. So we don't do a very good job of this very, very important thing called voting in this great nation of ours. So I think we need to step up and pay attention to what we are doing. Working the polling stations, if you're a brand new voter, you have to present an ID. If you change a address, you have to present an ID. If you drop your vote in a ballot box, do you have to present an ID? No, you don't. You just have to drop it in that drop box. So there's not a consistency across the board. I want to thank everybody for the hard work that you do. We appreciate what you're doing. Let's clean things up and move forward and keep this great creation of what we want it to be and vote for the candidate of your choice. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Darto. I'm Lauren Darto from Works by the City. I want to take this great time to first thank each and every individual who fought tremendously hard to turn this county from blue to red. Our work that we put out there every single day had made a difference. For one more, thank you for pushing forward and taking out the drop-off service. There's that very many issues against each and every one of us who are here today. We know the history of our county throughout the entire country. country, the Zodiac County, and the Bay Normal, for corruption, stealing, and what is losing on shortage of paper, now it's time that we are considering to push forward, and we say no to drop out to this. And where would this agree we will continue to fight because the integrity of the election we are at the crucial point in our nation and history. In November 5th, the rest will become history. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Lisa Napersky. Lisa Napersky. Lisa Napersky. Sorry, there's no cheap seats. Thanks for taking my comment. Just like your municipality ma'am. Very potential. Okay, thank you. I live in Mountain Top where it's not only been difficult finding a location for a drop box, but there's also recently been a scramble to actually find a polling location for the upcoming election. And the reason is fear mongering, and that's very sad. Firehause and churches have long been proud to serve their communities in this way are becoming afraid to open their doors to voters because they're being told they have to worry about lawsuits and threats of violence. So chop one up for the fearmongers. I truly appreciate and understand that the county has a duty to keep election workers and others safe. And on that point, I hope the election worker protection ordinance recently introduced by Councilwoman Brin Smith as wholeheartedly and unanimously supported. But having said that, it's my understanding that it's our election board and not the county manager that should have the final say on drop boxes. Some have said that vending drop boxes is an effort to disenfranchise voters based on false claims of widespread fraud and it's true many voters will be disenfranchised if drop boxes are banned. But let's be clear, this is more than just a way to disenfranchise voters. Sadly, there's a band of election deniers, a live and well and loser in county, who aren't just trying to make it harder for people to vote. They're trying to undermine the entire election process. And if drop boxes are banned, there's no doubt in my mind, they'll move onto the next target, and find yet another way to frighten everyone and generate chaos in this trust. Unfortunately, Pennsylvania does not allow early voting, and many people for many reasons can't get to their polling location on election day. Ballot drop boxes have been a convenience for builders of all political affiliation, every age and occupation, retirees, seniors, and disabled people. I have faith that Luzerr County can provide the security measures necessary to allow safe access to Dropboxes at the very limited locations previously approved by the board of elections. And I worry that if drop boxes are banned due to fear mongering, then the vigilantes and fear mongers win and democracy suffers. Thank you. Thank you. Next up, we have F Gilbert. Hello, Beth Gilbert, what's there? I'm here tonight on behalf of over 300 loser county voters who have signed a petition opposing the elimination of mail-ball drop-oxes. These voters believe, as I do, that the drop-oxes are not just a convenience, they are a vital tool for safe and secure voting, especially for those who limited access. In addition to the petition, I'm presenting a letter from the PA voters decide coalition, signed by 27 statewide organizations that strongly advocates for the reinstatement of drop boxes. These organizations understand the critical role in drop boxes play in providing safe and reliable voting access. I'm also presenting a letter from the ACLU of Pennsylvania, which underscores that the county manager's decision oversteps the authority of her position. Both the Pennsylvania election code and the Luzner County one-row charter clearly state that only the board of elections has the authority to make election administration decisions. And the board has already approved the use of drop boxes for this year. All the documents that I'm presenting today make it abundantly clear. The Dropboxes are essential to losing our county's elections. The county manager's decision, Turmov Dropboxes will disenfranchise too many of our voters who depend on them to cast their ballot. Not to mention that the decision itself bypasses our county's election policies. Turmov them now only 42 days away from the election does not put Woosner County on the side of voters or free fair and accessible elections. It begs the question, who side are you on? I urge the Council and the County manager to listen to their constituents. The voters of Wooserm County. Dropboxes have been securely used since 2020 and removing them now creates unnecessary barriers to voting, which can lead for seniors, people, disabilities, working people, and others who rely on them to cast their ballots. Thank you very much, your time. Next up, we have Miss Sardiac. I'm honored to speak against the removal of all the drop up to the Missouri County. While I understand that there are increased security concerns regarding this election and I commend a county manager for all of the security planning taking place, I think the drop up to the box issue should have been dropped before the public several months ago and not forced on us at this last minute. This lack of transparency is regrettable. I ask that the county manager revisit her decision and come up with a security plan for drop boxes in plain place in Hazelton. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Han. Next up we have Karen Barron. Baron Asci. I'm shocked to sign out crowd for me, sokes-Barrick. And I just have a few things to say in favor of keeping at least some of the drop boxes. And County Manager Crookamo, I've always respected your dedication to the people of our county and your wise judgments. But today I'm asking respected your dedication to the people of our county and your wise judgments. But today I'm asking you to listen to Citizens Please to reverse or is partially modified your decision to get rid of the boxes so late in the process. And I've attended County Council meetings and election work a few times. The past few years and witnessed the blatant assault of free and fair elections by some citizens promoting stolen election lies conspiracy theories never ceasing unspecified allegations to drop boxes. One council member even recommended the fallacious 2000 mules conspiracy movie that was an, but that was an election board. It was not doing it during the council. Over the center of the 2024 election universe and Pennsylvania is the center and Los Irving County is the bullseye that made decide our election. We know from Jamie Walsh's that three or four votes decided it. So if there's some citizen, people don't pay attention. They're going to think, oh, I'm going to drop my ballot off in the drop box, which isn't there. Because they don't get the newspaper if they don't pay attention. And then they're going to miss, and it could change the whole thing. And I think there's a big deal about this drop box. Because I witnessed some of our group of citizens with opposing views when we're holding a press conference outside on the grounds and they even brought a bullhorn and we could hardly be heard. There was even a woman going to surgery and thought of these she would be treated with respect. No, she had a say to them. They said well, I'm going to be in the hospital is what she had to answer. It's a poor lady who barely watched there. So, please, members of the public. Members of the public, please. So, and- And Denise Williams, there we go. Denise Williams just recommended a keeping two of the boxes. I think the pen plaza, I always there does nobody around there's a security guard inside if we could keep some of them at least and I'm asking everyone and anybody involved do we think this decision we have to show some courage and not cave to a group of loud or religion disruptors and and I also support the election integrity bill, you know, that they also mentioned being decided. So thank you for listening. Thank you very much. Good evening. It's a very effective thank you to the staff for the speech. Thank you. Members of the public, Mr. Doug, please, if I have the warning again, I have your vote. Please be respectful of the other members. Okay, they were respectful for you. You see what one's up? Please, you were respectful to the other members of the public. They were respectful to you. I'm asking you, you were respectful to them as well. It's all a mask. Mr. Nack. Ron Nack from Nantico, Pennsylvania. I wanted to just enlighten you. By the way, thank you Chairman Lombardo and the Vice Chair Thornton and all council members and manager of the program. In regards to the home role charter article two legislative branch county council, Section 217 states, no member of county council or committee or employee thereof publicly or privately give directions to orders to county manager. Any employee of the executive branch, the controller district attorney or any employee of their office. I bring this to light because of the circumstance with her that would be a county manager's decision, which I will hardly agree with. And I agree with it because there is no guarantee for the security of those drop boxes. And the Times Leader reported September 4th that data was lost at surveillance, recording at right-mana drop box from April 23rd primary election. And in my opinion, it is impossible to make sure that all the drop boxes, when they were in place, had a succinct pattern of flow with regards to motion detection or the same standard as this security cameras would be set up. It is impossible and there's always that chance for data loss. And so because of that, I have been a proponent of getting rid of them right from the beginning. My opinion, they are a threat to the sovereignty of the United States. And thank you for your time for listening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Miss Malchemis, Cindy Malchemis. Hello. Thank you for letting me speak. I'm Cindy Balthamus from Dallas. So this entire topic is distressing for me. I really don't understand why this is still a topic that keeps surfacing. We have used drop boxes and it was our county for several years now. Although there are people who continue to spread the idea that there were issues in our election because of the drop boxes, that's not true. We've had fair enough selections despite what some naysayers like to promote. Reacting to a threat when you're in the right is never a good idea. Taking away the few drop boxes we do have in the loser economy will not solve anything. In fact I'm going to predict that the naysayers will come after another way to prohibit voters from the right to vote. In the loser county should this not be rectified. Excuse me. After all this is voter suppression pure and simple. The elderly, the service worker, and the CNAs, people who don't have the ability to take off work to go to vote, these are the people who are going to suffer. Marginalized people who cannot get to the polls or work different hours than is available to drop off a ballot to the election bureau or to vote in person or suffer. Please don't give in to the threats and scare tactics. That's a lot of all of Thank you. Next up we have Mr. Thorken, Robert Thorken. Good evening Councilman. Madam County Manager, Carpenter. I'm Robert for making it easier to continue to vote, but not easier to cheat. The reason you have the decision to eliminate the rap boxes of this county has been a long overdue. They have been proven repeatedly to be a source of cheating and valid stuff in our own former director of the county election bureau, Mike Sussex, while working through the lobby, he penned a place two years ago. We're just going to drop four ballots and then drop ballots. All right, he warned her not to do it. She didn't anyway with no legal repercussions. Two years ago, the District Attorney of Lehigh County performed an exhaustive investigation revealing over 200 incidents of people stopping and dropping multiple ballots in the drop axis. Are we in loser accounting to believe in the law of large numbers that the score is Lehigh County 200 violations loser accounting is zero on. And 200 violations are just 27 counties is 5400 fraudulent votes. That's assuming one's stuck to her ballot, and it can totally determine the election round. Let me remind everyone here that there was no Pennsylvania law authorizing the use of drop boxes in our state. The boxes were suggested during the spread of COVID only in 2020 by an unelected appointee of Governor Wolfe. It was an emergency measure to help stop the spread of COVID only in 2020 by an unelected appointee of Governor Wolfe. It was an emergency measure to help stop the spread of the virus. The unelected appointee was Captain Bookbar who later resigned and disfraised. The letter leads to pre-court of Pennsylvania later off with a court opinion which said counties criticize themselves if they want to continue to use the boxes. This was an opinion of a court, not a law. There still remains no law. The Pennsylvania elected switcher must pass a law. It lies with their hands. And I heard that turned no proof bandied about continuously. Even I would as a count, half of the day, if it's a video tape evidence, are not considered proof in the eyes of the opposition. How pretty ready proof unless you have a person monitoring every drop box 24 seconds and any place to 24 seconds monitoring what suggested or enacted cries of intimidation and voter suppression are earned loudly. Why would any lawful proud registered voter be intimidated simply cast a lawful battle? No, it's the fraudsters that are intimidated and not permitted to carry on the ballot stuff and they so enjoy and they so desperately need now they feel the wall is pointing in. In these volatile and dangerous times I want to applaud the non-partisan decision of Madden County Manager Carpenter. She showed them wayward and true leadership which is County so desperate the needs. Thank you Madden County Manager Carpenter. with the needs. Thank you, Madam County Manager, Kalkamal. Applause Next up we have Gaby Shapiro. Thank you. Gaby Shapiro Kingston. First I'd like to say thank you to your manager, Prokhamal. I know this is not an easy decision. I know I'd like to say thank you to your manager, Prokamon. I know this was not an easy decision. I know that you've had a pile of bricks. More I assume, a pile of bricks dumped on your head since you made it with various things, the news, et cetera. So just let you know, appreciate it. Appreciate you taking the heat for that. Next I'd like to mention is Beth, who spoke here earlier, was a previous acting election director. And she was in charge when there were 40 precincts that ran out of paper during election. She goes on and on talking about how important it is that everyone gets to vote and have not just been franchised and yet when she was in charge, we had papergate. When this is under her review. So I think it's very ironic that she's speaking on that. Next is over the past 100 years. Been all loaded in different ways, but there's never been these drop boxes. This was a temporary measure. And the hope that COVID situation is large. It's over. So the drop box issue would be as well. Another previous speaker mentioned that there's early voting isn't allowed in the Luzeran County or Pennsylvania. That's not true at all. I actually passed an early vote. It's not an appolition station. I've been down to the election bureau. They get a repressive ballot. I feel like the ballot. I handed it out, I voted early. You know, they're mentioning about it in just franchising voters. How many mailboxes between each of these people's houses and the drop boxes that exist in our open 24-7? They're saying, you say, oh, really people, service workers, there's mailboxes all over. They took many of our mail-in voting in the scene. That's just how it works. So this is just an additional measure so that they can do balanced something and get away with it. And I thank you very much for ending this practice. Thank you. Applause. Mr. Kerro, Robert Cochan. Robin Cochan down the township. A secret lake express with numerous other concerned voters, we do not support male and voting drop boxes which are by fraud rather than secure elections. This is not voter suppression as some claim. On the contrary, the county manager's decision works toward restoring public trust by ensuring that only one vote is legally entered per eligible voter. Voting drop boxes were only to be used as a temporary measure during COVID, which required social distancing for health reasons. Since male and male adults still exist, voter access is not hindered. They keep crying about this, but they have male and male adults. There is no voter disenfranchisement by getting rid of drop boxes. It's unthinkable that drop boxes have been used in several Kelly elections without anyone monitoring the video surveillance footage or verifying that the person dropping in more than one box had the required authorization form. It's the election bureau insists on supplying a drop box at Penn Place who will verify the legality of someone to positing multiple ballots. Critical security issues along with increased staffing and costs to the taxpayer, override dropbox convenience, and validate why all dropboxes must be eliminated. It is also why the county must stop fighting the judges' orders to allow public viewing of past surveillance footage be a right to no request. Contrary to the opposition's comment, a live-in in Dropbox's near-the-election has no bearing since mail-in ballots have not even been sent yet. Responsible voters still have time to plan how they will vote, whether it's by mailing or hand delivering their ballot. To be election bureau, or making an effort to vote in person. If a voter can drive to a drop box, they can drive to the polls or put a stamp on their ballot. It's that simple. We applied the County Manager's decision and implore County Council to fully support her efforts for working toward restoring voter and election integrity in this county. Thank you. Joseph Nelkowski. The council, my name is Joseph Nelkowski from Kingston. I am definitely against the the ballot drop boxes. I am very thankful that they have been removed as of this time. Everything that I was going to state has already been eloquently explained by several of the previous speakers. I really don't have anything more to add. Thank you. Tony Persia. I believe so. I'm sure you can consult, share it by share, by your start, resume, or reserve, or I'm definitely against taking rid of the drop boxes. But I want to explain something that I've been hearing here, like everything is this and that I actually, I work with polls. When I work with polls, I took the people's name. If their name wasn't there, it might be because they got married. But we got really looked for the information and the guy told them where to go from. And if we didn't find out, if they came back, we couldn't find out. We were dealing with visual balance. And both we probably didn't have that. People would reach you into the visual balance. We put it to the side of the case. It was an important thing. We would lay it on to the verify that vote. So the people that work at these polling areas are, could be born. They have to make sure that this is fair election. There's a lot of people that have to work. That really drop on these on board. They opt on the area. And they don't trust the mail. The mail is good as it used to be. Now how many people do you have in the pool? There it is. For one machine, how many people are there for one machine? Well, there is a base on the pool in location. One machine, how many people do you have? Three? OK. Now, if there's one person that doesn't make it to the Scott Sick, or something happened, they couldn't make it midnight, we'll have a set of poll. We'll have a set of poll. Yes, Mr. Perzi. This is an opportunity for public comment, not for back and forth discussion with members of council. I just want to finish on it. Thank you, comment. You have time. I'm just letting you know. Okay, Mike Oven is way out. The point here has to close down to Bill and Mr. Chumkin. Is there a backer plan? That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, sir. We have contingency plans. All right, next up David, I apologize but say this name incorrectly. Demki from Plains Township. Okay, okay. Hi, hello, David on P Plains Soundship. I'd like to bring up the point or address the United States Postal System and the unreliability of our mail. Without the drop boxes most people are probably going to be using the mail and I've heard it advocated in the comments here. I just anecdotally want to show a card that I received from my birthday yesterday. My birthday was the first week in September, and this is post-Smart, the 30th of August. If this had been, instead of a greeting card to me, it wouldn't have been counted, I'm sure it would not have been legal to arrive close to three weeks later. I think that's probably across parties. Everybody could agree that our postal system is very degraded compared to four or five years ago. This is not just one, I mean, this is one example. I've had incidents trying to pay bills this year, major incidents that cause inconveniences about three or four times. Second, I just question the legality of the county manager making the decision unilaterally to change this. Isn't that to the board of elections? This is something that I would like to know. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. Next up, Mr. Griffith. Sorry, they have to wake me up. I was not going to stop there for this comment. The first issue that I have is obviously on this drop box issue. The county manager made a decision based on the safety of the voters and the presence of this county, not on the fact that she likes drop-offs as her not. The whole decision process was based on that factor. So we had a president in shock, an ex-president in shock. We had an assassination attempt on that same person. We have issues where people are polarized with election process right now with Democrats against Republicans, independence, everybody's fighting among themselves. We have a very toxic election process going on right now. For us to have a drop-ox and put the county at that liability is stupid. Black will better determine the public shock, the English language any better than that would be. Not worthwhile. We have to be sure that what we're doing here is safe for the people. We have election process elections for 41 days from now. We have an issue with the board of elections on Wednesday. People were here screaming and carrying on about election balance not being on time. I went to the manager immediately asked her and she said immediately without any hesitation, Mr. Griffith is controlling, wouldn't her and take a look. That's not hiding anything. That's being transparent. That's looking out for the voters of this county. That's what we do here. We spent half an hour talking about drop-oxes. We're 41 days to the election We can't get enough people in the skinny office to help us get this work done We have 30 people here top not one person volunteers to try and help But we all want to talk about drop boxes Drop boxes is not the end of the world here folks To be able to vote by drop boxes is is convenience Putting it into mail is the right way to do it. That's what the law allows. Coming into the Bureau of Election is allowed. Drop boxes are not allowed. Why do we want to push this issue beyond my comprehension? I don't understand why we're filibus during over this drop box issue here tonight. We have people in droves coming out of your drop boxes. The election was certified on Monday. The board of elections isn't going to get together until next week, next week to approve the ballots. And everybody's trying about drop boxes. Let's get the board of elections get off their duct and do their job and meet tomorrow to approve the ballots so we can get them approved and get them printed and get them out. Let's do that and stop with the nonsense about drop boxes. This is a productive. This is counterproductive. We need to work together to get the election done as best we can and stop fighting among ourselves. Because that's how we're going to get things done here. But the Board of Elections is saying we got it when I, when drop boxes do not in 2020, I asked the Board if I could stand outside the drop box and watch the voters as they put ballots in. I was a constant, I was accused, I was going to be arrested, I was told that I can't do anything. I would be arrested by the chair of the board. Now she wants to do exactly the same thing she forbid me to do when they come up with them in 2020. Alright, this is really a thank you for your thank you. Anybody else for public comment any audience? Anybody else here in the audience for public Mr. Ranty? Joe, grantee, Plank's Township. I'd just like to make a comment, continue on with the last speaker from Plank's Township. He has no confidence that the postal system will handle the overburden of mail and ballots. And I'm in the same place, I think we should do away with postal system having to handle them. And then everybody go back to the same day voting, which is the way we did it for decades and decades. Bringing back mail or drop boxes is not the answer. I'd also like to speak about the security of ballots and elections. It seems like the Democrat party has always on the no security end of the decision, the vote against any kind of voter ID that come out for a drop box is which are insecure. We know that because we have four ballots come in unsigned, witnessed by the same person, and put into a drop box, which is illegal. Still waiting to have somebody doing a investigation on that. Beth Gilbert, coming in here as the head of this group that came off tonight is an embarrassment. She was embarrassment when she was the head of the election bureau. She did not speak up about the missing ballot. She sat in a corner silent. She waived the ACLU in our faces, which is a bigger embarrassment because the only people that the ACLU protects are the illegal immigrants coming across the board. They have no credibility and they should hang their heads in shame. That's all they have. Applause. Thank you. Anybody else? How do I comment? Yeah, this is Scott. What would you say to anybody else? Who's our county? That's in the audience. There are many who can speak. Go, it's our... My plots go hammer down here. Yeah, I put that echo that ACLU comment because if they're gonna put a letter in for this, I wanna see the letter they put in for paper gate. I mean, if that wasn't the epitome of polar disenfranchisement, I don't know what was. So if they can show that, I think then they should be a lot of the system to this committee. I applaud what everybody's doing here and to manage a pro-commulter for going on what you did. And I think it's right, so that's all I have. Thank you. and to the manager pro-commulter for going on what you did. I think it's right, so that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Fitzgerald. The First of all, the left only says that the right is always intimidated. We're not the ones that try to shoot a president twice. We're not the ones that write it in the streets. We're not the ones walking up to people and mega hats and pushing the mega hats off. We are not these people. Yeah, maybe we're a little loud. Maybe we would put our point, but think how we have the first amendment. And thank God seven of these board members do not vote for that other ridiculous thing because all they're going to do is try to silence us in intimidation so the only intimidation that is coming is from the left against the right they turn on the statues they're going to take signs out there's documentation to this but where are the ones that are being abused and intimidated? So let's get that straight. The second thing is disability. I have a disability. I don't usually show this card, but every step I take hurts. Every step. Okay. I can get to the Bureau of Between Now and Election Day. Thank God it's just not an Election Day because as you all know, I lost one of my toast three years ago. I voted on the Friday. I got out on Monday and I made sure my vote. I went to front in Congress and they asked if it was counted. That's it was. The Election Bureau did their job. Very proud. So, so as far as the disability, that's bullshit. That's all they did, just to be fair, please. Okay, so just what it is, that is just wrong. It's a lie. The reason why they want drop boxes, because it's in the dark. Everything ugly happens in the dark. So, when you stop, you will stop in the dark, you can get away with stuff. The reasons why they don't want to come to the bureau, or they don't want to go to a voting person, is you have to show an ID. That's it. Take away all the smoke, take away all of us. It is all about getting away with something. That's it. We have plenty of time to do it. So with all of this, who this is, I'll use that word I apologize. So with all the excuses, that's all it is. It's smoking mirrors and just everything's hot, it's cheap. And I appreciate you, Rameilda. I know that there's a lot of security issues, but whatever the cases, I'm glad the drop boxes are gone. Good minutes. Thank you, Mr. Barr. Mr. Barr, Mr. Barr. Mr. Barr, just the point of order. On the zoom, there's the ads running during this. I can detect that there's monetization ads running on the zoom just so you're aware of it. We'll take a look at today. We'll take at today. Okay. We'll take a look. Videoing Chair, Vice Chair, members of the Board of Health and Council. I didn't come here with a prepared speech for you. What's your minutes, pal? My name is Iar Barthon, for Dallas. Okay. Thank you. I didn't come here with a prepared speech, but I didn't want to have a chance to just kind of to lose a date upon what I feel is kind of an injustice for many of our constituents. Without ballot boxes, many of us don't feel like we have a chance for our voice to be heard. Now though I'm wearing blue, I don't prescribe to vote all blue or all red. I'm here to vote for who I feel is the correct people for represents. And I feel is the correct people for represents. And I feel as though many of us don't get a chance when we have a ballot that doesn't go to a ballot box for a voice necessarily to be heard. There's a chance as many people have mentioned for a ballot to be lost in the mail. There's a chance that we might not get to our point placing time. There's a chance that our mail may be lost or stolen. And I would like to pretend that those things don't happen. But I also want to say that there's a chance for us to allow that to not even be considered by having those box boxes in place. And if we can do anything to make people feel that their votes will be counted and will be secure, Then we should do that. And I feel very strongly that if my vote for some reason goes missing, and I'm checking on the website to see that it's not there, that I'm going to feel like my vote doesn't count anymore. My voice doesn't count anymore. I know other people are going to feel the same way. So on behalf of them and all the people who have already bought into this system where we're putting our our ballots and our voices on the line with this system, we want to have a chance to be heard and we want to support the people that we feel are able that we should support. That's all I have for you and I thank you very much. Thank you. Mr. Scabble. Good evening, Frank Scabble. Old Forge Pennsylvania, Lackawanna County, your sister county. I have to tell you what an education this has been. And it's a hack to Mr. Miller-Grockermont. You know, I'm not sure everybody understands the liability of a drug box and a litigation that comes with it if someone decides to file a claim right there, right? So, Lackawanna County is a great to have their election board meeting tomorrow and I would be there and present the same logic to Blackwater County and try to save the taxpayers from things that could go wrong. So remember this, if the other side says there are no conspiracies that we ourselves must say there are no coincidences like running out of paper during an election which papers one of the cheapest things that you combine for the election. So what I would say to this body, and I would say to our lack of undercover commissioners, which I favor this type of government rather than the three commissioners. But I think we should fund elections. Let's try not to save money on elections. Let's pay the election workers. Let's have a contingent like Ramona says, if there's someone that can't make it, let's have a group of people that we are fed it. And we could bring those into the elections because what's more important than this, not much. And let me tell you this, I didn't know that Dropboxes were not part of Act 77, which was passed in 2019. A lot of us don't. The drop boxes were an emergency provision for COVID. That was put in place by judges, which now the COVID emergency mandate is over. So should the drop boxes be unless the legislature who put Act 77, which changed our whole 40th system by mail. So that's where dependent on and by the 508. You have to pass 35 mailboxes and won't spare before you get here. You have to pass 10 mailboxes in Kingston before you get here. So convenience is the mailbox and the way the Pennsylvania State Legislature acted. But I will tell you this, if the ACLU was on this, is on this, and it was against state law or an election statute, you wouldn't get a coercive letter today. You would have got an notice of a lawsuit. So this county is in the right. I applaud this county, this board, and the criminal crocodile for helping lose black and white accounting. I don't see the victim. So thank you, God bless the man. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your watch. I apologize, I didn't know you wanted to know. So I was in an back row for, sorry, Janie washed raw sound chip. First and foremost, I commend manager Crockamo for this decision to remove the drop boxes. Tonight, I've heard a lot of personal stories based on opinions and feelings in zero evidence or data or statistics, only what is. All I've heard is perfect symphony by the Marxist, an example of a standpoint of epistemology. Stempoint of epistemology is a Marxist core value, and they tell personal or third-party stories and their stories are all under fire. And if you don't believe their fabrications, without data, statistics or evidence, only there are what ifs, you're the enemy. Don't fall for this please. Stand point in epistemology is just one of the 13 tenants of the core values of Marxism. Voting is a duty and should require some effort to make sure your vote is cast. The definition of duty is a task or action that someone is required to perform. Any additional resources that our county should spend on this election, should be to clean our voter rolls, make sure all new registrations and mail-in ballots are processed, and to make sure there is not one illegal vote cast in this county, and if there is, that person or group of people should be prosecuted to the fullest. The facts are as follows. The drop boxes were never legitimate under state law at 77 of 2019, which established the use of mail and ballots. The only reason drop boxes were allowed was due to COVID outbreak prior to the elections of 2020, since there was an emergency declaration put out by Governor Wolfe. Then Secretary Kathy Bookbar was the person that came up with the idea to use Dropboxes instead of the US Supposedal Service. The Pennsylvania Democratic Party and the Pennsylvania Senate Democrats during that time argued that the Dropboxes were necessary due to the outbreak of COVID and therefore legitimized under the emergency declaration put out by Tom Wolfe. Kathy Bookfarer, youth at the Dropboxes were the only way that voters should return ballots and argue that the US Post Office was unable to process and deliver ballots to the election offices prior to the election day due to COVID safety measures. The rolling by-stays Supreme Court Justice's determined at the ballot drop boxes were necessary due to the emergency declaration put out by Tom Wolf, and that the health and safety of the voter was at risk. They were all lies. The Supreme Court Justice's left the decision as far as the number of drop boxes on the count, decision to the count is that part of the rolling violates the state and federal constitution under Article 7 and Section 6 under the uniformity clause. Thank you. Is that it? Yeah, you're the time itself. I think you're a buzzer. Yeah, I felt like 10 seconds ago. I think that's okay. But anyways, that's all that these waves wants to drop boxes when it will spare one in Hazleton. The two easiest towns to get around A public transportation what about the world community? Everyone's being disenfranchised. Thank you I'm sorry. What? Thank you. Desiree Edwards, where is he going? Um, I'm a little taken back about Walter Griffin when he came up here to speak. And he looked at us, the residents, and kind of reprimanded us as saying that we didn't offer to volunteer to help with the registration or the ballots at the bureau. Well, if he was at the last election board meeting, he would know that numerous of us offered to go and help them with the registrations and stuff. And we were denied. We were told we weren't allowed to, and they were getting help from other election workers and bureau workers from other counties. So I just wanted to get that on the record. So we don't look like we don't want to be involved. Thank you. Oh, wait. Rosa, I want to thank you so much. You're a very brave person. Thank you. That's the public comment and the audience. Certainly, put the outs outside. One, okay. We still have some people on his own as well. Mike Stash and the township. Just a lot of thank. Let's rock them out for doing the right thing. It was a heart decision and we appreciate your decision. I just want to go over some things about the drop boxes. As we know, there are several townships in our county that have banned drop boxes. So if they were really universally accepted as a good method for elections, I think. I don't think the townships would ban them. I just want to go over some of the countries in the world that actually banned Rob Boxes. This is as of April this year. Perth's office France, they banned him in 1975 due to fraud. Mexico, Bandom in 1992 due to fraud. Belgium, Bandom in 2018 due to fraud. Sweden does not permit Bill, about drop boxes or mail-in voting. Italy, Ukraine, Russia, Japan. No Middle Eastern country permits them. I know Latin country permits them. So we're not alone in this. And I think it was the right decision. So thank you and free, fair, and transparent elections. Thank you. All right, there's nobody else in the audience. Oh, good. The unique hers is up for it. I just wanted to say something really quick, a reminder that the people that are pushing forward drop boxes are also pushing in Washington to vote against our ID, proof of citizenship, they're going to allow illegal aliens to vote and not citizens to become law enforcement authorities. All right. Anybody else in the audience? All right. One on the zoo. Ms. Jordan? Ms. Jordan? Miss Jordan. Is she? She was. She should have her hand up. Okay. All right. She took her hand up. Okay. I will move on for now. Miss Gleinen. Follow you Gleinen. Yes. Follow his hand. Stay on the edge. Miss Lennon? Saw you, Lennon. Yes, it's Bonnie's Lennon, they don't count it. My first question to County Council is, what provision gives the County Manager the authority to override the decisions of the County Election Board? And if you provide an answer, please provide citations and precedents in your answer. I appreciate that Miss Korkamol is evaluating the possible scenarios and considering preemptive initiatives. My concern, however, is a potential harm from overreacting. Power of the absentee and male ballot recipients going to be timely informed of the significant new barrier to submitting the ballot. If this unilateral decision by Ms. Kokomo is proven to be a legal action, the county should send letters to every male ballot recipient addressing the available alternatives. It is crucial that no legal voter is left disenfranchised in this most critical election, unlike the failure to inform all registered voters that there was a special election this past spring. At the same time, as the primaries, when independents undeclared and other party voters were left uninformed. I believe that drop boxes should remain in place. They have been successful with use in the past eight elections in the county and were approved for this coming election as no member by our election board. The USPS, which has unfortunately been severely undermined by the Postmaster General's joy, is not a reliable option. Returning the ballots to the election bureau with limited, rigged hours presents significant logistical obstacles and is not a valid viable proposal. Voting protection and ballot and ballot, ballot integrity have been and continue to be addressed by the federal and state officials and funding from sources such as the Election Integrity Act is available for this specific purpose. This is not unique to Lutheran County. Voting intimidation for the express purpose of suppressing the vote is happening in countrywide, I'm an 80 veteran. I serve to preserve our freedoms, most importantly, three in fair elections. If we give into bullies or coward to terrorist threats, we have forfeited that for which we have fought and many have died. Thank you. Thank you. All right, we're gonna try and just Jordan again. There you go. Okay, hello, everybody. I hope you guys can hear me now. We can hear you, Miss Jordan. Okay, I wanted to hope you guys can hear me now. We can hear you, Ms. Jordan. Okay. I wanted to just say my name is Deborah Jordan. I'm Federal County. I thank the previous woman who just spoke for her service. I do believe that all veterans are important. I do believe that I'll use different from hers because I believe she may have a little miss guidance and may want to even I very respect what she did. I do not agree, but that's what her topic. So I would like to begin with on March 18th of 2024, the Pennsylvania Senate Committee on Government held a legislative hearing on suggested principles for state staff as regarding election security. A 10 years up is hearing, war, joint chairs of both the Democratic and Republican parties, a panel of 20 election-siguried experts including Dr. Alec Yassiniac, a computer scientist and expert in election security at ULF South Alabama. Also speaking, Kevin Schoeplin, chief technologist and a permanent native speaker on election security for the U.S. Department of State. So you can see from this list of panelists at this hearing that this is no small bad matter. That would secure effects all of us. Thus, Dropbox issues are not defined under the legal term of civil rights. These rights, these are rights that protect people from discrimination based on characteristics such as race, gender, religion, etc. Dropbox rules and regulations are actually uniform for all people. They do not discriminate by a person's color or sexual identity or preference. So the legal entity of drawfoxes falls under basic liberties and freedoms. Now, the problem with the ACLU, can be a letter to the County Manager, is evident by admission from their own website. And I quote, since our nation's founding, the spring and airing policies and laws have created an unequal system in which black communities have added civil rights and liberties to nigh. Okay, drop boxes are not a color issue. And for the more I goes on to state that their systemic equality agenda, they will use nationwide litigation to advance laws and policies. So I don't like the fact that they're almost threatening just by bringing up the word ACLU and civil liberties. It's not fair. It's obvious to everyone that drop books is that they're used to are not used is not based on a subversion of a certain class or group. It affects all of us. And unless the ACLU is representing people who do not want lock boxes then they're putting you on. Okay, let's get back to the testimony I was teaching you all. All right, thank you for your time, so. Thank Tonsha. Hello everyone. Thank you for allowing me to speak this evening. I'm Brianna Ritt cut the voter services coordinator for the state league of women voters of Pennsylvania and a loser and county voter. Many citizens in our community and throughout the Commonwealth believe that reserving Malachar boxes is vital for attacking our Democratic rights. Malachar boxes is vital for protecting our democratic rights. Malachar boxes provide a vital service by ensuring that every voter has accessible security and convenient offings for casting their votes. They have been working well in Missouri County and our favorite by voters. The support is critical, especially since our Democratic elected commissioners approved their fees. It's important for the board and having manager to listen to the constituents they serve and recognize the value of these drop boxes provided. Concerns regarding security threats are vague and unnamed. It's essential to clarify that these drop boxes are placed in secure locations, monitored and designed to protect the integrity of every ballot. The assertion that they pose a danger is unfamished. In fact, continuously spreading the narrative that drop boxes aren't safe, only fuel spearmongering, which undermines the public confidence in our electoral process. Moreover, I want to emphasize that ballot drop boxes do not serve the same purpose as mail losses. They are specifically designed to facilitate the voting process and increase accessibility, particularly for those who may face challenges with traditional voting methods. Due to work commitments, health circumstances, or transportation barriers. I spoke with many Lizard County citizens who utilize drop boxes because assessing their mailboxes pose significant risks. For instance, we have numerous rural voters whose mailboxes are far away and often located on unstable terrain. Driving to a drop box location allows them to safely walk our well maintained sidewalk to deliver their balance. One world voter shared with me that retrieving her male daily felt like putting her life at risk as she had a frost a dangerously busy highway with high speed traffic. This is not just an inconvenience it's a matter of safety. I would stress that the experiences I share tonight are verifiable accounts from our community. Their insights highlight the necessity of drop-offs is an underscored the collective both the people. It's also important to address the misconceptions around Acts 77 while while drop boxes are not explicitly mentioned, they're not prohibited either. This silence allows counties to make choices that benefit their citizens. In those are county, retaining drop boxes reflects our commitment to a fair and participatory democracy. The recent proposal to remove drop boxes raises serious concerns, especially with election fast approaching. Implementing such sudden changes can lead to confusion among voters, potentially disenfranchising those who depend on these resources. We urge the county manager to consider the indicators that remove these essential tools, upholding and expanding access to ballot drop boxes not only aligns with the will of the people, but also demonstrates a commitment to demacify accountability. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, up to you, Mr. Harry. Hi, baby, Mr. Chairman, you're okay. Yeah, we can hear you, Mr. Harry. Baby Chairman, the borough, and the rest here, this chair. Maybe Jeremy Lombaro in the North for the New York County Council. First off is a record comment that I just want to say that no secret at all that tax speaks on the outpothers. We each have our own intended thoughts. I'm also not there tonight because I got one today, working one of my free jobs. Now, free jobs, so be it, but I still make it a point to go on both every single election. So what I've heard, obviously, are all I excuse this. I want to touch on a few things, first and foremost. I'm a little sad that I miss the eight person PR story that happened outside before this meeting. I'm sure I'll see you on the newsletter because the news for some reason likes to cater down to a very small number of people that just outlawed voices. So, you know, so the Lister and County Council of World Relations pretty much all of our county government had always ceased to be left, the meeting coverage from the New York City. It's really sad to see that. That's what we do. What I didn't have on my B-go bars and I thought it's unstable to rain, so I'm frowning and I'll lose that one. But what I heard time is predictable and waking up tomorrow. Disenfranchisement, voter suppression, fear monitoring. We've heard a previous county or border election meetings, myself and others who've been called losers, lunatics, you guys watered, they get races, every ism there is out there. Here's the bottom line for me and for the majority of whom you've heard tonight. We come prepared with facts and not emotions. The words, the main columns, all that that is continuously having them in their county is what folks do when they cannot defeat you on facts. There's 200,000 people in this county. We have somebody come inside and say they must have 300 signatures. That is by far short of the will of the people. Every organization that is set of letters to manage a crop number is a far left Marxist organization. And I usually don't go there but tonight we have to get the truth out there. These are not people that are bipartisan that look at all the facts that it takes to make an objective decision. These are the rules that push, push, push, left-meeting Marx society march. If the ACLJ judicial watchers, already students are in county by the way, where the Heritage Foundation can come in, they can sue just the same way. So, matter of the rock, the most in itself, it's fine, I can understand her position. But the one thing that is indiscutable to me, which is a fact, was that when you did interview, not you, but when the order elections, there were you, of voters that showed up versus ballots that would run back to the election year off, from drop-ups, they always think it's scary than that, and that is a fact. That's not a it being recorded was. Until that gets record file, I cannot say thank you, Mr. Herring, your time is up, sorry. Okay, next up we have Ariel Overdorf. Hello, yes, this is Ariel Overdorf from City Books. I also did prepare something to say, but I did want to, with my support for the drop boxes. I guess some things I want to go into consider are that you can speak from your own point of view of course, the work experience is getting to, the balance, et cetera. But I think anyone who are already or affiliated can agree we do want their secure elections. We want everyone to be able to go and want those votes to count. So when it comes to the drop boxes, well, whether or not we should have them, I think, as a separate discussion from verifying their security, I think it's totally fair to contain the conversation as to how we can make sure that drop boxes are secure. Some instances have been mentioned of folks dropping off multiple ballots and won't go. And it was mentioned that that assuming of the proper documentation that is legal, I mean, you can drop a ballot off for some of them if you have filled out the form and states you're going to do that. To my understanding, all ballots would be reviewed much like for digital ballots, as was mentioned earlier, before being counted. So someone fabricated for ballots, all that they were named or something, or with the name of someone who doesn't actually live here or some other way that they were attempting to commit fraud, that would be clocked before those ballots were counted. So I think that's definitely one major piece. I hope everyone here would agree we don't want to ditch and franchise voters. We don't want to make it harder to go and we don't want to make it harder to go and we don't want to make it less reliable that that vote gets there in terms of, you know, was it lost in the mail, was it damaged, who is able to interact with this ballot before it, you know, arrives at a secure location. So thank you for your time. All right. Thank you. Next up, we have Mr. Schaefer. Mark Schaefer. There you go. Sorry about that. Mark Schaefer will be back. You can email it, right? Yeah, we can hear him, Mr. Schaefer. OK. Yeah, so Mr. Haring's had predictability, but again, the antitrotox people were as predictable at the last order of elections meeting. I pointed out that these people aren't going to stop at drop boxes. That they're congratulate Mr. Rockefeller now, but next week they'll be coming for all mailing votes. And as you saw, all the people who are close to Dropboxes came and said you should have to go in person that you should have to show ID, spouted conspiracy theories about the legal aliens voting or people voting multiple times. The people, Ms. Crocabone, you need to remember that you're not stopping them by getting rid of drop boxes. You may think you're making a compromise and once I do this it'll all go away. It's not going to go away. They're just going to keep coming. They're going to attack coding every way they can because they only want certain people to vote is that simple. They listen to conspiracy theories, they think, that we have people taking here tonight shouting about 10,000 mules, which is a conspiracy theory movie based on nothing. These people aren't got for any based on facts. They're operating based on their conspiracy theories, and you can't compromise with them by getting rid of drop boxes. You can talk about the security drop boxes, but a mailbox is completely unscored. The people who are anti-drop boxes for security reasons are now shouting that we should vote by mail when they, when, vote by mail is completely unscored. In the mental gymnastics of the people close to drop box, spatling, one second, they're saying everyone should vote by a vote in person. The next are saying, well if you don't want to vote by mail, then when you point out mail isn't secure, they say, it's just, Ms. Rockamo, you're in compromising with someone who cannot be compromised with. You need to stand for not over really your board of elections and wait as probably legal and support people's rights about in this county by creating Institute Institute drop lots of. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Schaefer and next up we'll have Joseph Schaefer. Hi my name is Joseph Schaeber from New Hampshire. First, I like to correct something that a previous speaker said when referring to the attempted assassinations for President Trump. The first, what's a registered Republican. The second was a Trump voter. So, you know, it was not Democrats or the left. And the right doesn't write. I remember changing my read six when the right tried to overthrow a free and fair election and tried to overthrow the Constitution and tried to hang the Vice President of the United States. I kind of think that's the buttons. As far as the drop boxes, I support drop boxes. I can only speak to them in place because that's why I drop mine off. They're safe and secure. You like it? There's a security guard about six feet from the drop box. The Wulksbury City Police Station is the 22nd walk away from Benplace. So it is a secure area. Echoing with Mark Shakers that earlier, now we're talking about all these mailboxes, talk about a lack of security, and a lack of oversight. Mailboxes are totally open. There is no oversight there. And I think it was about a year ago, there was a rash of mail being stolen, including the mailbox just outside the post office. Slow delivery is the mention. Somebody can mail their ballot two weeks in advance and it doesn't get there in time. Now much drop boxes. You go in, you put your mail in, you go, and then a couple days later you get an email from the county saying we received your ballot. One other thing, I don't know, one person, the county manager gets a speak for 200, 321 registered voters in Los Angeles County, the election board approved drop boxes, but one person speaks for, that's a 200, 3,321 people. And I think I'll have that, that could be. Thank you for your time on that for today. All right, thank you, sir. Next up, we have Mr. Kraminski. Jay Kreminski. You having a look? Yep, we can hear you Mr. Kreminski. Go ahead. Okay, Jay Kreminski, Fairmont Tower show. Yeah, this is the highest day. I feel like we're literally on maybe 1800s here about the argument about the taxes. Which, I heard your honest right. This is unbelievable even if I have this conversation in 2024 and some call the modern sheet. But, fully valid boxes 42 days before arguably the most of actually, most important election since the Civil War, but why? Some are in addition with the security or time limit of the male ballots. I don't blame you. I don't trust male who live in the meantime either. But there's a simple solution, drop losses. Secure way in the last instance to deliver their votes, they've allowed them to sit away in life. And I'm for literally be the most room part of the party, so don't take that as long as people in the city. This is why I'm in bowel boxes. I am a foreigner, work a full-time job, analyst at this long business, and I've got what extra business in my day to stick away to life, right? It builds the fate and mouths to be. But some self-probe bowel boxes fly towards political motivation. You say, drop boxes are dangerous, but it is far more dangerous to vote personally and I really get carried on these policies. Can you remember back to the few generations when you're pulling back your chin and cutting the red hairs for the immigrants that be staying voting this will franchise the tactics for being used against? I think there's a word to Marxist and timing that's being thrown out on the hotcakes tonight. I really wonder if any of these folks have a slice that be with Marxism or communismist. But if you think democracy and voting rights I think the monitoring rights of waste and Marxism and communism can make one a read of a book, not another one, by 4 a channel 4. I want you to ask yourself, are you really really conservative election interference? Because me, if you're the only election you're hearing who you're concerned with, is the election interference from a posh and without a lack of drop-offs is not a beautiful county. Let's take a look at statistics. The Brown and Saturday Justice found justice found only one out one that killed all the votes using drop boxes results in voter fraud. There will be far far far more than one million votes being affected by the removal of drop boxes. In fact, the only actual product I can remember in this area is when a man from 44 passes a ballot for his dad and mother for Donald Trump in the last press of election and he operates here. I don't think so. This is what Donald's actually integrity and it't think so. This is my final election in February, and you never have anything. This is about board disenfranchisement for a much more political game playing in September. I ask you to please find a decency and integrity within yourself to stay tomorrow, your seeing this beautiful county, and continue your last-round process today. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you, Mr. Missy. Next up, we have the name says Donna's iPad. Donna can you state your full name and your municipality please? Yes I need to start a committee now for hearty site. I'm for the drop boxes especially for the elderly who have a hard time getting to them and be personally will never vote in person again knowing that they have right to carry these voting places That's that's more liability and scary thing. I've ever heard I will never be in person again And my biggest concern here is watching this online is all of you on your cell phones Sit there scrolling through them not paying attention you were elected to help us not to sit there on your phones can you shut your phones up so these meetings are over I can't believe I'm watching I can see how could be it's just arm them scrolling down and look in whatever wherever you're running shut them off do what you were voted into to thank you. Thank you, Ms. Comminsky. We have Mark. I assume Mr. Rabel. Mr. Chairman, can you hear me? Yes, we can. This is Mark Rabel. People can speak to you. I mean, I have to say, I haven't been surprised. I don't know, like, for most part, but I find two pretty much the kill-year and pretty much Mr. Chairman, you know, we're battling here because of the fact that you have two trains of thought by the left that are saying, well, in one instance, there's voter suppression, but then at the same time, as the newspaper articles yesterday and yesterday, citing that they want the additional manpower for the drop boxes. When they themselves two years ago during the governor's election during when Governor Shapiro was campaigning and then he went for governor they cited voter intimidation when the security cameras were being considered at the time of the state. I don't know if you remember that. So one train of thought is by the socialists, they're saying voter intimidation and now they're saying voter suppression. It's kind of like being perpetrator and the victim at the same time. It's it's it's sadder to say the least. Oh and one other thing Mr. Chairman and I don't bring up personal history here for for myself but I hear some of the few of the hecklers saying that if someone knows what communism or Marxism is. Why mother fled from communist checkers of Asia with my grandmother and her three other sisters? And the communists took their farm, their family farm, as well as the rest of the other building of farms. Because of the useful idiots, like the Hitler's, who said the Soviets are our saviors. They're coming to rescue us because we're such an entire lead after what the Nazi Germany turned into us after World War II. And then what we did in 1948, Mr. Chairman, to come in, to check the login and the residents, they persecuted our press theming the 80 years. So for the 8th grade, this is on the socials left who don't know your history and don't know what Marxism is, I suggest you read a book. And furthermore, as far as the drop-out top off to the World Heritage Institute, why is the chairman of the election board saying that only Hazelton Woltzkar should get out of drop boxes in the city, they're in the urban areas, that's where away from the world areas. So I don't have to leave a women's voters representative. Why are you supporting the chair of the Wolt the worksheet in putting the two drum out drop boxes in those cities when the rural residents would have to drive especially in the areas thank thank you Mr. Chair thank you and manager of program up here courage all right thank you Vivian Kriva, we'll see you. Hi, can you hear me? We can hear you. Okay, Vivian Kriva, we'll see you now from Nettinatia. Next we'll check that again. First off, I want to say that to this quote, Mom. And then I want to say, I don't understand what people think that these drop boxes have 24 hours surveillance, surveillance, that if somebody is sitting there watching, it's been made very clear from the home land security that their gun threats make. The county manager has taken action to protect the people of the zone county to keep them safe. So why is this so hard for everybody to understand? If you go to that drop box and say somebody right before you walked in and stepped up in that box and you opened the mix, what is going to be there to help you? Nobody's coming out of the camera because they're not men. Nobody's seeing it until somebody comes along and realizes, oh, there's been an incident we need to go out of place. I mean, come on people. She didn't wait forever. She took me away for this election. You think everybody's safe? If you think your doubt is more important than your safety, do you better reconsider your priorities here? Because I'm sorry, my life is more important than that ballot. And if I want all of up to, I'll put down my mailbox down in town and on mail it from there. Because we're a rural area. We have our mailboxes and otherwise 10 pound fasin' for the day and 10 pounds of security guards leave it like 5 o'clock I believe it is. So who's going to be there all night long man in these boxes because that camera of Robert Devin court of police stations they they murdered this people so that happens go over. It's the same way same way way Hazelton. You're talking 24 hours to ban and somebody doing your 24 hours a day to make sure you only put one ball in that box and what happens when you jump. Did they have the authority to arrest you right near on the spot? No, because most, they're only gonna probably be county shares and they're gonna be cold cold up to get marked the time and day down and then after the election we'll look at it. We still have cases sitting on the district attorney's desk from past people of this and they're not prosecuted. We just have to insulate the other day where it is all over the internet of somebody walking going through security going up to the election board, and depositing more than one ballot without any information showing she had that commission to do so. Luckily enough, somebody saw it, they took those four ballots and put them away. So, you know, that's all I have to say is thank you, Mr. Clerk Wilford. We're doing a best job for broad shoulders and I know you will be doing a great thing and leave us in place and everybody will calm down eventually. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Next up, we have Jan Robinson. Yes, thank you. My name is Jan Robinson. I live in Pitt's Township. I learned a lot tonight. In 2020, I was a socialist and now I'm a Marxist. I am not a headquarter. I am a fellow citizen. and I have the same right, first amendment rights that you do, and I expect you to give up people with different opinions the same respect as they have given you. There's been a lot of misinformation here tonight, and I have a conspiracy very well. I have been wondering for the last several years why Trump is telling his people not to use mail-in ballots. I'm thinking why would he make it harder for his people to vote? And I think we just found out this decision came in like last summer week after we had a huge rally in Wiltsbury for Commonwealth Harris and all of a sudden we're in six weeks before and on a major election or making major decisions that will interfere with the way people have in the past dealt with their mail-in ballots. In 2016 my sister-in-law who has MS mailed her mail-in ballot ten days before the election and it did not get there at a time. The mail did not dependable. The drop boxes are. And all the things that people have been talking about, such as stuffing them the ballot boxes, there are things that are set up to keep more than one person loading. They may be able to drop in 10 vallus, but it's going to be caught when they're going through the vallus in the election bureau. So I would like to call for the drop boxes to be maintained because I trust them. Anything that can happen to a dropbox can also happen in a polling place. So if somebody threatens the polling places, are we going to shut them down to? I mean, this whole thing is just ridiculous. First of all, it's too late to make this decision, in my opinion. And all these other questions that people have about things that have gone wrong, that should have been taken care of in the last four years. It's too late to do everything now. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Robinson. James Lassino. You hear me? Looking at yourself. Okay, I want to thank you all the decision from the S.C.P.E.C. I'm an over-the-road truck driver. So for everyone talking about how far it is to get in and cast their ballot, I want to vote that right now because while I drive across country, I can still make it back here on the election day you can cast my ballot. So complaining about these drop boxes being pulled out is kind of irrelevant in that case. Also, I have constantly and repeatedly heard our Republic refer to as a democracy. That has gone out the window. We are a constitutional republic with a democratic vote, so people need to remember that one. As for being called as socialists and amateurs, for less, I don't know, four years, plus eight years of online, we call it affordable, Bible Thumper, a big in everything else on your side. So quite honestly if the insults hurt don't throw them out there. Now somebody else survived January 6th, not one person for January 6th with charge anything other than trespass because it wasn't Trump or Republicans and we're doing the violence it was Adrian Valkyrie of Antifa, ABLM. So we're going to throw all these out here. I'm going to bunk and run, but as for the boxes, yeah, go ahead and pull them. There's actually no problem with using the mail or going to a pull places. I can make it back to California, defensive wing, and mind a vote in an 18 year, you can hop your little butt into a car go hard and go to a more point place and cast your battle. It's not that hard. Thank you all and have a good day. All right, thank you. All right, Jerry Gotara. Yes, hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Hello? Yes? Yes. We can hear you sir. Okay, thank you very much for calling me. I'm from I'm from client township, but I voted the 160th district. Can I still speak? Yeah, we're allowed people who are in the county to speak. That's five. Okay, thank you. Yes, I've heard a double speak for the drop boxes. But they talk like it in circles. First they say, they criticize the host of the host of the host of the host of the host of the host is not reliable. But somehow, without any real facts that somehow drop boxes, they feel safe with drop boxes. But it's not a feeling. There's no facts there. The facts are that they are drop like to have a security problem. They always have. That's all the examples of problems that they have with job boxes who have already been revealed. But they just think that that just doesn't matter anymore. The facts don't matter today. But though I'm on emotions, what do they think? But the phones are, that drug boxes have a security problem. The answer have a cost problem. They have a cost. There's logistic snake hairs. There's no kind of problem with these drop boxes. And it's not worth it. It's not regarded as mentioned before. It's not required by law. So there's nothing about the election bureau. Next question, the election board. Has the authority to make this law? I have a question that principle, that theory, that somehow the board is, they're not even elected. They're appointed. Some of elected, they are appointed. Some of them, they have authority over elected officials. That great speech, that's probably the wrong way. I think that has to be, it might be corrective. I don't appreciate that attitude. So there's no question here that Rob Box's work problem. And I agree with some of the other comments there that we can have more important things to worry about in this election because there are other serious problems and all this does is distract from the real issue of election integrity. So I do thank you so much for your time and thanks a lot for me to speak. All right, thank you. We have two emails to read. The first is from Jay, no tarq, from Asso, from Wyoming. Once again, I find myself called to defend voting rights and moves our accounting. We need to make sure that ballot drop offs are put in place as they have been successfully for years. Eliminating them as a result of pressure by the far right voters, pressure in crowd and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the matter of action and the in this statewide as well as the charter do not give her this authority. I also request that any threats causing this fear-based decision to be made public and all members of the loser county council board and that they are investigated to the fullest extent of the law, that is how you stand up for democracy, not back to the court. The solution to any potential problems is to resolve them, not surrender, people are counting on these boxes for various reasons and many other counties in PA continue to use them. I've been using them every year myself with no problem disenfranchising thousands of voters must not be tolerated. In fact, we have more, we should have more drop boxes. Also, the ballots are being prepared and have instructions with a link as to where the boxes are located. That's the county having plans to re-print all ballots as well as let every voter know that this option is no longer available, doing this so close to the election. We'll bring more chaos and voter confusion. I was a liminate. I was speaking with two of my neighbors yesterday, and neither of them were aware of the boxes were being eliminated. One, an elderly woman asked me, how do you want one person inside that? I told her I would ask tonight for both of us and all the orders of Luzer and County. Luzer and County needs stronghold leadership focused to the part of right press, the fear tactics, next is the press, mental suppressed voting rights, Jane O'Tarp-Tommaso from Wyoming, Pennsylvania. Next, we have from state representative Alan Greencavage. Dear manager, Krokemo, I'm writing to express my support for your recent decision to eliminate formal ballot drop boxes for the upcoming November 5th general election. These are D-Challenging times that demand difficult decisions, and I commend you for the way you have navigated these pressures while offering peace of mind in losing our county voters. Your dedication to fairness and security is evident and your decision reflects a commitment to pulling the integrity of our electoral process without personal bias. Tough decisions often comes resistance. I understand that there will be groups of individuals when they challenge your choices, casting doubt or attempting to lobby against the action that you've taken. As the state representative elected to serve 65,000 residents in Luzora County, I want to make a clear that you are not standing alone in this. There are many myself included and a significant number of my constituents who support the steps you've taken to safeguard the security and validity of our elections. Elections on the cornerstone of our democracy and it is essential that every voter takes pride in their participation knowing the process is secure. With so much at stake in the upcoming election, we cannot afford to leave any room for doubt regarding the incendiary of our voting system, your decision not to deploy Dropboxes due to challenges in staffing resources. Speak to the careful consideration you've given to the overall welfare of our county and is greatly appreciated. As you face opposition from the outside interest groups, please know that you have the support of those who recognize the importance of ensuring secure transparent elections I hope you find reassurance in knowing that many have fought similar battles to uphold be saying now using Cerely Alex J. Renkin average state representative There motion to a general motion six on favor by both say your four