I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm sorry. Good afternoon and welcome to the meeting of the Public Art Commission on Wednesday, October 16, 2024. Let's start with our pledge of allegiance and I'll leave us in that today. Hand on your heart. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Right rule call please Chair lo max present share per tim breener Commissioner gollo present commissioner make millen Commissioner Pollywall present thank you I would like to share a little bit of that. I would like to share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a particular comment. Share a think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice question. I think that's a very nice to receive and file the consent item calendars. The consent the consent calendar item. Second. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Great. Thank you. Okay. The top item on our regular business today is a new park mural project. And we have the opportunity today to identify a new location for a mural. Just to note, we have been responsible for a total of 10 murals throughout Testin, various spots, including our Civic Center, Laurel Grelin Park, Pepper Tree, the Boys and Girls Club, Pioneer Road, the Grelin Park, Pepper Tree, the Boys and Girls Club, Pioneer Road, the Teston Sports Park, Frontier Park. I mean, it goes on and on, including Pine Tree Park, the Teston, Columbus Teston Park Mule, which was our most recent project, as well as the Centennial Park Handball Wall, which is currently in progress. Would you like to, Director Clinton, would you like to continue this conversation or how we do it? I'd like to be more honored. Thank you. So on your priority list, on the Public Art Commission's priority list, there are three items in this current fiscal year. There is a Centennial Park Handball Wall mural. There's this Centennial Park sculpture, which in this case we know we've kind of have a plan for that on the tails of the Handball Wall mural. The third item is a Park mural, TBD, location TBD. So that's what we have before you tonight. And as we have done in previous occasions like this where we wanted to hear from the public art commission of what you all wanted to take on next, we have some options that we have shown you before of potential locations for a mural. And so our hope is that out of tonight, we, the commission, would choose a preferred location, probably a first choice and a second choice for the next public art project, Meryl. And then also identify the preferred method to select an artist for the project. Because then as staff, we can go away with, if we know the location, we can then put together an estimation for the cost of that project, as well as put the word out for artists. And as you see in the physical impact portion of your gender report, there's the, within the public art fund, there's $44,000. That does not, sorry, that does account for the fact that we have identified 10,000 for the Handball Wall mural in Centennial Park. So I mean, you literally have $44,000 to work with at this point, which is plenty for any of these park mural locations. So with that, my plan, that Chairperson was to run through each of the locations, just as a reminder of what you have before us, and then turn it back over to you to lead a discussion with other commissioners. So with that said, first we wanted to start with here, just an idea of where the Public Art Commission has commissioned a project before. All the blue dots are locations for Public Art. The commission has identified a desire to spread art throughout the community. And from this, you have definitely, the commission definitely has moved solidly in that direction So moving forward on the potential locations now this is probably the largest of the options This is on the backside of the community center facing the library courtyard nice large stucco wall And as a reminder before murals, you know, there's the mural where it covers every square inch of the space. And then there's murals like the birds on a wire at Lower Oakland Park that only take up a portion of the space. So this is facing the parking lot off of Centennial here at the community center. And this is the entry to the Council chambers right outside the doors here is another and these are all you know flat-stucco locations The French your park fitness zone. This is outdoor fitness equipment on a On a non-slip surface. There is the photo on the left is the exterior. Used to be an old handball wall, or a location for handball. We turned it into a fitness zone. And so whether it's within the fitness zone, which is the photo on the right, or that portion on that photo on the left. We have, I will say that we have, we have one other project at Frontier Park and that's the Mosaic tile mural. We have tentatively identified this as a location for community input, mural, which at this point we would not be able to take that on given our staff resources to coordinate that because we already have the other one, the other public input mural in play right now. So this would need to be, the mural we're looking at for this would need to be a straight commission and artist to design and implement a mural. This is that Manolia Tree Park. This is the neighborhood adjacent to Centennial or adjacent to Tessin Meadows. And this is the park in there in the Tessend and the Peppertree Park neighborhood. This is the columns of the stage at Peppertree Park as opposed to the Peppertree neighborhood. This was identified or the idea was brought up by one of the Community Services Commissioners, Stephen Kozak, as a potential location. And specifically from the photo on the left, the two columns on the left and the right that are facing the stage at or facing the crowd at the concerts in the park. You do have the senior center. This is rough stucco, but you can see there's kind of multiple locations at the concerts in the park. You do have the senior center. This is rough stucco, but you can see there's kind of multiple locations at the entry. The photo on the upper left is the south entry. There's a good wall to the center photo. Although now there is a planter box against that wall right now in the center photo that when we took this photo it wasn't there and then on the far right you can see the the nice wall behind the bicycles But this is also a peppertree park Test in sports park where we already have a mural. This is a this is off Off the presses is that the right saying for a photo? I don't think that's the right thing This photo we just got today. This is a photo from today a current photo is a better way to say it, I guess Yeah, fresh out the presses, but even but it's not even press so it's fresh from miles Garbens camera fresh photo and then veteran sports park we do have the the building on the right is, I think that's the building with the equipment for the cell tower. And then the building on the left is one of the restrooms. I think the restroom adjacent to the basketball court. Oops, went too far. Pretend like you didn't see that. You what? Exactly. That concludes the options we have for you as locations that the staff has vetted and have it as having good potential. So now I turn it back to you, Chairperson. Take it from there. Hey, thank you very much. What do we think? Commissioners who are here today were a little short, but I know we have lots lot of ideas. I think we have a lot of ideas. What do we think commissioners who are here today were a little short, but I know we have lots of big ideas. Through the chair, love all those things. I think to something that was said about diversifying the neighborhoods. I don't think we've done anything quite over by veterans sports park. I know some of the other ones more things that have been put before are some will be great but I would love to maybe try one of those sites. Through the chair, I had a similar thought. I know I brought it up before too. I do like to spread the love and diversify our locations and veteran sports park did come to mind if you're looking for sort of a like a one and a two. I like the idea maybe evaluating a park option and a community center or senior center type option as well because both Get a lot of traffic So veterans sports park and or and or a like either Although in alphairness that the senior center and theoretically kind of near-peppery park kind of in the vicinity So maybe my preference would be a community center here Clifton, Clifton Miller, and I know there's a couple options listed there. I'm kind of leaning more towards either the courtyard wall or the center entrance wall versus the entrance option. Yeah, you're correct. I also kind of crossed out anywhere where we've already already done a project. So Frontier Park, Peppertree, and the Tuston Sports Park seemed a little bit like we've been there already and we'd like to try something else. I was really thinking myself too about the senior center or the community center here, right here by City Hall. We haven't done anything on this, you know, with City Hall or here for quite some time. I think one of the first projects was that seat wall that was done before I back to the chair. Any other thoughts? Would you like to go about this today? The chair if it helps we can put photos back up of either those locations. To the chair there's no bad options, right? Anytime that we can bring a piece of art, I think maybe something that we can think about, do any of these locations like inspire us to have a cool concept or theme or something that could be rather than just choose a wall and paint something? And I think that's been so, I don't wanna use the word, I'm very loud, I'm not saying this. Hesitation on the community center. By field of community center needs like a big theme or big idea, which I don't necessarily know if I have or you know, I'm sure we could come up with something. When I think about the veteran sports park, I think some of the theme for that becomes more natural, right? That it represents something already in the community that that theme is kind of there and it's a project that we could probably execute on quickly, maybe with minimal community involvement. I feel the community center just in its nature might need just to be a little more involved in something we decide in commission. To the chair, that's a great point, Commissioner Gallow. The community center here, the council chambers, it is a little higher profile. There are probably more eyes on it and probably more opinion on what would be here. So it might need to be a little slower process just so that all the necessary I see it before even gets to even approval from the commission. Right. And through the chair, that's where it can be great that we get in on our agenda list. So we think about doing something of the senior center. I think it'd be a disservice if we didn't involve the senior community. If we did something here, I think it'd be something that we should get public input. Something at the Veteran Sports Park might be one where veterans, right, our military history, it's a little more embedded. Or some of the other sites, I think it'd be something more where we have an opportunity to bring something without participation. But those two that we haven't necessarily tackled in this neighborhood, I think, part of the reason's been we have an opportunity to make it just a little better. Great points. Through the chair, I love that process. Is there no reason we can't prioritize as a number two, but just push it out to a longer term. We need this X amount of six months to do six to eight months, but still plan for that. If we like heading in that direction, could we tackle a veteran sports park as a number one? Get that kind of, get that going and schedule a bigger discussion when more of our commissioners are here as well to gather the input for us moving forward. Yes, through the chair, on that point, I should add a layer to the onion that for next fiscal year, one of the projects that the commission has identified as a priority is a public input project at the Tuscany Family Youth Center. And that, because that's a 25, 26 priority. And so what that looks like, our preliminary discussion was potentially another Mosaic-Town mural involving the participants of the youth center. So that is sort of already been identified as a priority. So it's along the lines of what you describe. Commissioner Palaywal, just for your, I guess, edification. I'm not particularly excited about the entrance ways. I think those can be really highly involved. I do like the idea of the courtyard wall, the faces. You know, it's because we just had Taylor days. We had a great breakfast out there. Wouldn't it be fun and add to that environment to have that artwork there on the wall? I think that might be a goal that we could set to have something that beautifies that space next year before we have events. I know we have like the Christmas events there and I don't know what else the courtyard is used for as far as city events but that's definitely the connecting space between the library and the community center and city hall and so it would get a lot of eyes on that as well. I think just be part of the environment that we could create there as part of the community center. Through the chair that is a rentable space. The courtyard is by the public. So people can do events there. We don't do it but local synagogue does a menor lighting there. We've moved our Christmas event down to Old Town, but then there's a pancake breakfast. That's probably the biggest. And then each to each year there's probably a few rentals that happen there. And uh... Library, yeah, the library does programs out there too. Yeah. Through the chair, that's what makes me think that because there's a couple groups to involve them would be neat. This is not at all to our discussion, but it was mentioned that next year one of our priorities is the youth center. I wonder if there's some opportunity to youth and senior together. Different audiences. But similar. For the record staff just rolled their eyes big. So director plan for this year you said what are our three projects this year? For this year we just saw you projects at Centennial, the handball wall mural and then the functional art is the latest direction that we are headed with the idea of being that after the handball wall mural and there's a design there that's been approved then we can start looking at options for the functional art, a bench potentially I just say park mural CBD. Right so what do we think about veteran sports park? We like that idea. I like that or I think well I mean I all of them are great sites once again. One other one that I don't think any of us brought up, but maybe to give a consideration if we want to earmark some more towards community involvement. We've done something up frontier park, which was great. To do two community sessions there, I understood staff's recommendation was maybe get them involved, but I wonder if that's something that we could bring the themes that were already mentioned at that park and incorporate them in something. And that was that that fitness court, I think that could have a big benefit of maybe deterring graffiti and other hangouts, you know, suspicious activities there. I would be open to that as well. As a community engagement project or just as a. As a theme that what we've done. But maybe our theme for that is leverage some of the things that were brought up when we did engage That community is it might oversaturate to try to bring them all together once again Hey I think that covers all of our options. So we kind of narrowed it down to something at something that test in sports park or the frontier park fitness zone walls so both really active active spaces. Do you mean the veteran sports park? Thank you. In addition to your veteran sports park is your preferred location. There are two options. We can bring that photo back please back up Katrina Sal site in the restroom. Yeah one one faces so the Sal site building faces the walking trail faces the Socker fields is very visible on the east side of the park. That's the photo on the right The photo on the left is the restroom and that's a wall that faces the basketball court and the pickleball courts so both of them very visible either way. And but, you know, square footage there to work around the windows. You know, artists can do lots of different creative things. So what they do there. One obviously would cost more than that if you were to do the sell side building on the right. It's more square footage, but again, both are within reason. So we would need now which of these, if veteran sports park is the preferred park, I should say location, the preferred location, now we would just need no specifically which of these buildings. Seeing them again I feel like much of the work that we do is about beautifying the city and this is a nice new park that is really looks really great right now. The front here park fitness zone walls are definitely in need of an upgrade. Can you show us that space as well again? I should add this photo as an older photo. I don't know the current. I think they're still brown, but other than that I don't know. You can see on the photo on the left that we paint over the brown, you paint over graffiti. The chair looks the same now. I just was there. And the space above the dark brown walls that's that building? That's actually the neighboring building. That's not our property. That's actually the backside of the building. We're not responsible for or nor can nor do we have the right to make any change to that. Correct. Through the chair, when we go back to this community engagement, I remember something it was the parrots flying by over the Saddleback Mountains. It could be something you kind of gear that saddleback mountain viewpoint into. Right, without access to the top part of that wall, it's hard. Yeah, through the two. It's kind of a... That's the ice or... Yeah, who paints over that then? There's clearly some painting over it. If it's not ours. Neighbors walled the backside of the building. That's a strip mall on the other side of the park. I don't know. Clearly some sort of, I mean, cover. Honestly, city staff may do that. Just as a courtesy and because it is visible from the park. But again, we'll be doing it from a standpoint of Just not letting the graffiti We have a graffiti contractor and sometimes agree to contact held do private property of the private property He gives us permission and sometimes just painting over sometimes it's it's cleaning it off But I'm guessing that that falls in the That category the through the chair the space is this space is a large space, right? And it's got different segmented fitness zones. I think there's more than just the two that are there. So it's something, I mean, that we would have to think through, like, how do you want to leverage a portion of that space, like shown in the photo on the left, or do you want to leverage the entirety of the space somehow? somehow. Yeah there's a lot of there's one two three four five six different wall surfaces on the photo on the right. That'd be a lot of mural. I'm probably making this harder than it is but would you mind showing us the test in sports park cafe while one more time? That could be fun and easy and doable. And something that gives us a lot of visibility. And I think through the chair if I may speak to a point you brought up which was great. I think absolutely we should kind of have out in our mind and prioritize sort of enhancing some areas that that need it certainly but I think our commission really is just bringing some color into different pockets of the city. So I still think if we choose that location, if we do go down that route and choose that as a priority location that we're still doing a, I think, a great job. So, I just wanted to address that comment. Good comment. All right. Well, would someone like to make a suggestion? We've had a pretty good conversation about this. We have multiple locations that would be good for a variety of reasons and easy to implement. Through the chair, if I may, I think what I'm hearing from a summary perspective is there is some jump in if I'm speaking incorrectly here, but I think I'm hearing priority-wise veteran sports park, a community center down the line where we can get some great community input and engagement and really just think through that more strategically. I'm impossibly friend to your park. I also think we need to think through that strategically as well, just given it maybe do a site visit, though thank you Commissioner Gullo, you mentioned you went recently just to get a better handle on what we're working up against. But I think those are top two potentially a third consideration. If I did I summarize that, okay? You guys have a preference on which wall in the on veteran sports park on that building? Be candid. I'm not as familiar with that with that the layout of that park. I think both are going to be great. I think that opportunity to bring color to it because it is kind of monotone would be great. I'm trying to Google maps the field but I'm not very effective at it. And I think we heard soccer visibility on one side, pickleball and basketball on the other. So three very popular sports. And isn't it right? Is it the same building that's right next to the baseball fields too, on the other side? Yes, that is good. I mean, it's a very centralized location in the park. One of them faced the city events that are held annually on the Memorial Day and Veterans Day. No. Can that be a consideration? There's a movement there. So baseball, pickable, basketball visibility? I don't know that it necessarily matters. We said that one of them's one of them's larger than the other would probably you know we have the funding so it's not like we're we're stretched for that. Okay so let's let that settle for a moment. Do we have a preferred method for soliciting an artist? Do we do our kind of what we've done recently, which is put out an RFP to the people in our pool? I think we've done an RFQ where we, through the chair, to narrow down, you know, list of artists. I think with them it's on us to come up with a set of instructions if it's going to be something special, right? Like, so I think we need to think through if we want to do this area, do we want a specific theme or imagery or something involved in it, and then see what artists would be interested for that price point and review. But I would say veteran sports park, the side of the hangers, I would recommend that we come up with a somewhat of a theme and some instructions to make it really meaningful to that area. I agree with that approach. Off the top of my head, you know, think that there's something in our sort of library or portfolio or submissions that come to it. And I do think it should be customized to that space. Does that need discussion need to happen today or do we need to agenda that for next month for discussion? The Chair, it depends on how involved you want to get in that discussion. It would be sufficient if the commission wants to identify that location, one of those buildings, and in general terms identify a theme, and then staff can come back with this item with an estimated cost as well as details on, you know, put together. Lissa has put together several inquiries or when we reach out to the database of artists that we have asking for interest interest in the project, and in that call, we could easily put a theme. We normally always put this square footage and the cost or what we're paying. And we add the theme to it, and that way we put out there in any artist who would be interested in doing a mural at that location for that price in the realm of that theme, then we hear back from them and we bring that back. That just means it becomes a three-meeting process, right? Because the next time we come, we give you the call for artist information and the cost and then who are we hear back from, that becomes a third meeting. Or the other option for the commission is just give us the general idea of a theme, simply say to it as you can or you're willing to do, and then staff will run with it. We'll come back and let the commission know what our estimated cost is based on the square footage and past projects, and we'll just get that out to the public, and then it becomes just a two-meaning issue, because the second meaning is just the artist that have responded. That would just require that tonight you give us, like if it's, I mean the, the blow hanging fruit for this based on veteran sports park is patriotism. I think that, and- And- So the chair I think that suffices, something that honors Tusson's like military history. I don't think it's being more specific, but just to note that like we're not looking for citrus. So that could be part of the motion. Is that the park, the building, the artist from the database with the honoring Tustin's military history as the realm of the theme. Love it. Do you prefer that second option? Thank you. Thank you for giving us both pathways. I would agree. So would one of you like to make a motion that encapsulates what Director Clinton said? I'd like to make a motion to recommend the cell tower building of the Veterans Sports Park location with a patriotic honoring Tusson's military history theme, and for staff to run with it and come back with an RFQ. Proposals, responses to the RFQ. I will second that motion, thank you. Paul and favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you very much. Obviously we have a lot of good opportunities and it's just deciding which one to do first on all of these so thank you very much. Through the chair I do think we should take note that we've come up with some ideas now for community engagement. As of course our bandwidth and most importantly staff's bandwidth should keep that list kind of moving. Thank you, Steph. All right, so we don't have much on our agenda today, and so I wanted to have a little bit more of a conversation than we normally do with our open forum reports. And maybe it's just a bit of a reminder about the kinds of things that we have opportunities to do and maybe refresh our minds about the activities we should be doing and the things we should be thinking about. So if we want to start with creative place making, does anybody have any updates on that? As I was thinking about that topic, you know, I was refreshing my memory about what some of our big ideas are. So maybe we could just jot those down quickly just as a refresh. And I think when one staff's already moving forward with is the CalTrans project and thank you again to staff for all that great research they presented to us last month. But just for the benefit of the public, you know, we are looking into something under kind of the freeway overpass, underpass, underpass area. That's going to be a big undertaking and so I consider it a big idea given the effort involved. The other one that is on our priority list, I believe for next year I'm not sure my dates are correct here. Is the test and train Station and the Parking Garage. One thing I was thinking in just to throw that out there too is that I live nearby the train station, but to get to it, you do have to go down Edinger and there is not a sidewalk for the majority of that street between the shopping center there at Kensington Park and Ed and Jure and the train station. So if you wanted to walk or there's not really a bike lane and I know a lot of cyclists you know may use that road either to get to the train station or to get to work and it's it's a high speed limit kind of a road. So anyway, I think keeping in mind as we're talking about working on that train station is maybe a way to assist in the safety of any pedestrians or bikers, cyclists, who want to get from their home to the train station without using their car parking, parking their car there. I know I've had that experience myself. Any other creative place making, things that we want to chat about? Okay. Okay. Can we go through this open forum reports? We've hit the mark on quite a few of these, which I'm very proud of, right? Yes. They take a little time, but I think there's, there's none of these that we really haven't touched on, which is fantastic. Yeah, I mean, the Cal Trans will open up a lot of new doors, because a lot of spaces that are somewhat off limits, but I don't think we can start making a list of what to do with that, at least having one successful project under our belt. Yeah. collaboration topic just want to bring up how much I appreciated the opportunity to meet with our artist at Centennial Park this last Saturday and talk about You know with the community about ideas for that handball wall and I I Feel like you know she is such an experienced artist and would be able I think to successfully implement a project that we would be smart to either and you know, either expand that project in next year or something nearby where we can use her again for the full process, not just the community input section, so maybe we use her for the youth center or we add to something that we're doing nearby but to keep her in mind she's doing a very good job there. As far as fundraising goes, there are a couple of opportunities that we should keep on our radar. And one is the Bloomberg asphalt art grant, which comes back around, there is a January deadline. I know our project with CalTrans is likely not, in a spot yet, where we're able or needing to ask for grants, but that's something that we should keep in mind. It's, they choose, I believe, up to 10 cities and award $100,000 grants for ambitious projects. And certainly what we're doing with CalTrans would fit that. The timing may just not quite be right. The other thing that was asked of me a bit ago was whether we would like to do a fundraiser with testing community foundation early in 2025. And so I wanted to ask if we feel like how much money we feel like we need to fundraise, or if we feel like, how much money we feel like we need to fundraise, or if we feel like we have ample money in our budget, now that we have to expand it amount. From, you know, we went from 15,000 a year to 40, is that right? Yeah. So, is there a desire to do an event, and do we feel like there's a need? If we feel like there's, that? If we feel like there's something we want to discuss more and do in the early spring, we could certainly talk about it. I'm just not sure that we need it. Yeah, I would say through the chair that there are so many great organizations and Tustin that could really benefit from funds, but we're generously being gifted a larger amount from the city, right? I think if there's a project that really kind of goes above and beyond that there's an opportunity to always have that in our back pocket But I don't know at this time if it's the right I wouldn't say this is the right Opportunity that rather leave that those funds open to someone who a group that doesn't have that deep pocket And mind you are our 40 rolls over so you know, of course, we like to use it to make sure we're bringing art in every year, every fiscal year. But I can agree as well. But that's not to say that we don't continue some kind of or think about some kind of a partnership, nonetheless, which we already and formally more or less have. We're very close to the Test and Community Foundation and the Test and Arts, Tafka, as well separately, but they do so much together. I think there are opportunities for us to collaborate on programs, program promotion, just getting more visibility out there. Yeah. And through the chair, I think that there's, there might be like a community engagement project or something where fund raising makes a little more sense. I also think the collaboration with them is great for visibility but we do have the we've been fortunate to reach out to private corporations and get some support as well so I don't know if I I can see a really great use case for a near term event but by all means let's keep those channels open. Thank you for bringing that up to your little max. Good reminder. Director Clinton do you know what the timing is? How are we looking on our sculpture walk? Somewhat, yes, thank you Chairperson. So I did speak to Mike Grisso, Director of Public Works. And so if you recall, there is a grant that the Public Works Department got for landscape improvements at Tesson Legacy Park. And they agreed to fold into that project the pedestals for the art location, the sculpture locations. There is preliminary design work going on right now. The city is actually working with Nuvis, who's that's the same landscape architectural firm that's done several projects for us, but including the dog park at that same park. And so that is in process right now. The rough idea is to have construction potentially starting next summer. So and if you call our discussion, once we know dates for discussion, the commission can start looking at a call for artists or something because the project doesn't have to be completely done and those pedestals in place before we start looking for sculptures and figure out how you want to approach it. So at this point, having those in place would be a project that is looking like next summer. That'll be here before we know it. Yeah, it will be before I know it. And so I could see once we have those dates, once there's a contractor on contract, and starting, and we know of a start of work, at that point, it would be fair to start looking at, okay, well, we know what they're going to, the pedestals are going to, how big they're going to be, where they're going to be, so we can start looking at recruiting artists or recruiting pieces, I should say. Do we feel like we have the funding that we need with this extra allowance every year, or do we need to be fundraising for the sculpture walk, like we were doing in the past? We do have a commitment of 25,000 from the Tesson area council for fine arts that needs to go to art. So there is that. There's also 25,000. We received from Brookfield development. That may need to be used for some of the pedestals for that project. And beyond that, it's what the public art commission has. I think one of the projects next year, identified in the party list is a sculpture walk. If I'm not mistaken, next fiscal year, I think. Okay, through the chair, good reminder. And I think development is continuing to bloom here in the city of Tastin. so I know recently we saw the city's great you know dedication for the the APE A-TAP area there's some developers and folks that we think that I think we should put on our radar it's very nearby our project over at the sculpture rock and I would love to, you know, see if we could pitch them. Okay, any other comments? I know our Creative Signals project continues. That's about all I got. Thank you. Thank you so much for a great conversation. All right, directors report. Thank you chairperson. We have a few items. So we'll start running through them. The first one, I'm going to let a deputy director be sure to talk about. All right. I'm going to do a quick slide. I'm getting a slide up. Surprise. Well, we had a very successful make a house a home illumination and I just want to thank you guys for all your support and every step of the way to make this happen. It just came out fantastic. The color of the sky getting dark at the right time and it's timing it correctly and all of you coming out and her home bringing all her students and her family and the register being there. So just can't thank you enough meta for your work behind the scenes and Alyssa sending out all the press releases prior to to get people out there. So just a great event and a beautiful piece of art in testin. So it's really all I have to say. Fine. Thank you. Superintendent Beesher. I'm sorry, go ahead. It's microphone. It's also going to be highlighted in the art walk brochure this year. Oh, yes. It is in the brochure that will be handed out to the attendees. Which is a segue to the old ten art walk. The next item. This is Saturday. We do have a spot for you. We do, it is near the corner or near the intersection of El Camino Real and Maine. And on the south side of Maine, but not too far south. We're gonna have face painting, a community group, the church. Meredith's church is gonna to be next to you with some of their kids' painting faces. And then we have the materials for your booth that you've requested. And so I don't remember if we did shifts or how we, if we divided up your time. Through the chair, we even divide it up your time. Through the chair, we weren't deciding on that. Yeah, but we've done in the past kind of the morning and afternoon, which I think we probably need to figure out today. Yeah, so the event is, you can see there is from 11 to five. We would like to have commissioners at the booth that whole time, but it doesn't have to be the same commissioners at the booth that whole time but it doesn't have to be the same commissioners at the booth the whole the whole the whole time so Yeah, I mean just before 11 What is that six hours? So it's 11 a two and two to five Just get there a few minutes early. I have only have three other commissioners here But is there commissioners today? Can you commit two times? Again, the 11 or two are the two to five? I could be there all day if needed. So you'll have someone there. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. I have something right in the middle of the day so you may see me. I'll email you to confirm for sure but I had planned to be there in the afternoon. I believe I'm available all day but Janet's going to, if Commissioner Lomax, Chair Lomax is going to be in the afternoon I I'll say morning, but plan to be there all day. And then we'll have Katrina email the other commissioners on their availability. I don't know if Commissioner Brunner is back in town or not, but she's not. Okay, so she's going to email Commissioner McMillan on his availability and then plug that in. Okay, great, thank you. Okay, next we have, Maris, thanks for being breakfast coming up. Most of all of you have attended that event before, but it is on Thursday, November 21st. If you do want to attend, we will get you in. You just need to let Katrina know if you want to get in the sooner the better. They did sell out last year. I think we had to beg for a few extra spots. But we would prefer to have your commitment this week, next week, at the latest. You can see there's a, the speaker is from a Virgin Galactic. She was one of their first, well, you asked for nots four. So one of the first flights that Virgin Galactic, she was one of their first, well you asked for not four so one of the first flights that Virgin Galactic took up she's a very friendly relatable smart vibrant young lady and we Maryland and I, Deputy Director of Wut Shunai have seen her speak and so has Erin Neelson who is the Community Foundation. So she should be good and it's a good community event and time for connection. So this sooner, again, this sooner you can RSVP the better. CIP updates, bark barracks. It's in, it's continuing. We're still looking at early 2025 to open this up to the public. So that has been progress, you can see a bench right there. And then Centennial Park, Maryland, any updates you want to provide? They're moving forward with the irrigation and replacing pipes and inspecting so nothing glamorous but everything is tore up and they are pouring cement this week so the forms have been inspected so you'll start seeing cement trucks so it gets exciting. So it's coming along. Brought this up last time lockers at at Temporary Homes Shelter. You see the lockers here. This is a project that was brought to us by economic development, who oversees this Temporary Homes Shelter. And a listen, I went and visited took these photos yesterday. And if you recall, we actually put this out to the school district to see if there is any interest among the art teachers, especially at the high school level, for their students to come and do some kind of mural. Not to cover every inch of these lockers, but to span throughout. There's a total of about 90 lockers. And you can see on the photo on the right how they're're grouped in like groups of two or seven or three, but they are, it's all the bunk houses are kind of in a square and so they're all on three of those sides. We, until today, we didn't really get a lot of interest, but today we actually heard from the graphic arts teacher at Tuscany High School asking more about the project, so we've already reached back out to her. And then another person who coordinates art programs for the district, she reached out as well, asking to be able to go and measure the lockers and see it for herself as a potential project for students to design and then students and our families to actually implement on the mural. So more to come on this, this would be a project where it would very likely that the public art fund would be used to cover the costs of their materials, as well as maybe a little bit of money for their programs. But it probably would be far less than having a professional artist do this, but it would be a very feel good win-win situation. Listen, I again met with the manager at this location, and she's very excited for it. She would love to see this, just to brighten it up. Public Works has committed to prepping and priming all of these lockers, so they wouldn't look like this. The art, they will be either all white or light gray or light blue or something. Some color that would be a blank canvas essentially for the art program to come in and paint something on. So the idea we'd go with it, we move forward with, is if a teacher, with some students, wanted to submit some concepts of what kind of themes and in our discussion yesterday rainbows and unicorns say is the theme throughout? Well that that would be brought to the commission just in a very general sense. It wouldn't be the specific actual design, but it would be kind of the imagery of the design for the commission's approval and then it would go to council because it would be the use of public art funds so it would still go to council but again we very likely get very good press out of this and good public feedback out of this so more to come on that as everything comes together. So I just wanted to update you on this. That's amazing. Can I just ask a question or offer a comment as well? And I'm sure you're in touch with this. Is it Tafka that does the school art competition? Every year, you know, they have a great network and outreach, you know, list of teachers and students. And I know a couple of the commissioners have gone over the last couple years and gosh These students are so talented. I'll reach for this project. Yeah, yeah, just to make sure It's on the radar what comes of this two pieces of interest that we have at this point and and see if we Can go to the prom with one of those two and if not we'll find another day sounds great. This is awesome Okay, old town improvements projects, this is just an informational item that the city is going to start. One, there's two phases to this. One are improvements to El Camino Real, which involve parquets, essentially, which like you see in the upper right photo in front of Storco, that's like outdoor seating. So it'll be, this project will be formalizing the outdoor seating areas for several, I think seven, seven different locations at restaurants throughout Old Town. And another one on the lower right, you see that's in front of the El Camino Cafe. So basically creating space for outdoor gathering, mostly again tied to the restaurants, but this would be for the restaurants to use to put their own tables and chairs out at. And then the other part of this project, some enhancements to the landscaping areas, but also changing out some of the trees, which more information to come on the trees, but some of the trees will need to come out, unfortunately, with new and additional trees put back in, but the ficus trees as they are right now, some of those will need to come out. And so the next slide you can see of the different ficus trees in El Camino Rail, the purple ones are the ones that will need to come out because they are causing issues with drainage, not drainage sewer lines, is the case of most of them, or they're coming out because where they are is gonna be the location of the parkette. So you can see the majority are staying, but several are coming out. And so that's the El Camino Real Improvements, the second. Who the chair, will they be replaced by mature trees or youthful trees? Actually, you can see the, it'll, that will be, yes, mature trees, not brown new trees, but not nearly as mature as the ficus as they are right now. The chair, you can't find 100-year-old trees. No, we cannot. Maybe we can, but I'm not sure about transporting them here. Or taking them out of the ground even for that matter. You can see an example of the pink tree on the lower right is an example of the tree that we'll go in. And I don't remember the names of the trees. All of these plans, by the way, are on the city's website under public works department, so you can get a lot of more detail within this, we are being very purposeful about getting this information to the public because it does involve some trees coming out on a lot of changes in Old Town, that will impact traffic, impact activities. So we're trying to be ahead of the game and getting out to the public to make sure that the public knows what's going on on this project. That's part of the reason I'm telling you about this as well. So that's El Camino Real. community. The other part of the project is Main Street improvements. The photo is on the left, not photos. Sorry, the image is on the left. There will be a new gateway entry sign into Old Town. That's the upper left photo. And then the lower portion is the the driveways between City Hall parking lot, the City Hall slash library parking lot, and then across the street. At Keen, those driveways will be lined up right now they're not lined up so it'll be lined up so that there'll be a crosswalk to increase safety and then improvements on the back side of that shopping center where Keen is and Jersey Mike's and such to to have it be more walkable you can see right there just the the entry to Old Town slowing down traffic is another piece on the design for this but between the Alcambino Rauw improvements and the old town improvement and the mainstream improvements the next year and a half this would be starting in January the Alcambino Rauw improvements started in January and on and right on the heels of that project will be the mainstream improvements so coming January for about a year and a half, there'll be improvements made to Old Town in both these ways. So I just wanted to keep the commission and the loop on that as well as let you know about that option to be able to look on the city website for more details. But as I showed you, this is the El Camino Real Improvements and then this is the Alcommuneral improvements and then this is the Main Street improvements. Through the chair, it mentions more parking. Where will that go? On Main Street, it's parking along the south side or the bottom side of this photo. There's street parking, diagonal street parking that isn't there now. That'll be additional parking. I think that's most of it. I don't know on that El Camino Real portion of it. Santeno Park, Canberra, Walmural. This is a... the next two items are bonus items. Just the commissioners... most of you are there, but here's a photo of the proceedings, as well as people giving their input on the themes that they wanted to see. But it went very well. Carla Roque was great. As you mentioned, Chairperson Lomax, and we felt like it was a great start to this project. She is excited to come back with a few concepts on these themes, with nature being one and community being the other that were identified as the top two. And the next community meeting is Tuesday the 22nd of October. So not. So that's that next week. That's next week. So we should have those concepts soon. It's quick turnaround, but Carla was on board with that and excited to get going. So thank you commissioners for your involvement and more to come. The chair. You'll have all the paperwork to highlight the second community meeting at the art walk as well. There'll be a poster highlighting the second community meeting and handouts for you at your booth. Thank you. Thank you. And then I have one more slide. I know I don't have a slide. Sorry, I don't have a slide. The last Director's Report item, just an update for, I don't know why I'm doing this. The transportation art, we, tentatively, we're going to bring that back to the commission today, but we... It's going to be a slow process. CalTrans are very busy people, and so, Lissa is trying her best to get responses, and we did get some responses, but they weren't while we were hoping, so it's just going to take a little longer, and I don't know if we'll have something by then of our meeting or not, but really we're instead of looking to the CalTrans for what our potential locations in Tussin we are going to have to have the commission come up with options and so that's more likely that the commission is going to have to identify What do you think is potential options of CalTrans property that we then will have to go back to CalTrans and say are these in fair play? These belong to CalTrans and can we do something there? Thereby being able to narrow down that list and have the commission at some point soon be able to say okay of these locations, we know these are all in play, this is the preferred location. Through the chair, I believe we mentioned some at our last meeting. Can we just go with those in past month? The three mentioned, I thought were underpasses on Red Hill, on Newport, and then over on Gembery. I think there are others. I don't think there are others, but to get started, I don't think we need to get the exhaustive list, I think if we could get approval on one of those three, it'd be enough to go forward. Okay. Well, we'll bring something back to the, I'll try to bring something back to the Vembran meeting. Let us gather our thoughts on that and then be able to do what we can to keep moving forward. And yes that's all I have. I do I concludes the director's report thank you to person. That was a great director's report there's a lot of exciting things going on and I appreciate all of your good work. I wanted to just start our comments out today by thanking our commission especially commissioner Golo and in his absence, Commissioner McMullen, on all of their very hard work on our Tustin Tiller Days float, which our whole commission contributed and worked hard to get done, and it was a great, it was a great float, thank you so much. I think it was a wonderful addition to our parade and a good way for our commission to get the word out about make a house a home and About what we do as a commission and beautifying our city. So thank you and thank you to staff to Katrina for hopping in And helping this troubleshoot and to director Klanton as well. Anyway, all of you. Thank you very much for Helping us to achieve that great goal and it was an ambitious project. So well and well implemented. Thank you very much. That's all my comments, Commissioner Goll. Yeah, a few things. First, I would like to make a proposal for a November agenda item to add micro galleries to our agenda. Accepted. Accepted, okay, perfect. Yes, Commissioner Brunerbrout that has brought that up before. We do have a little bit of information. We can provide that just a detail to the commission of what that would look like and then be able to have the commission discuss where that could be implemented. Thank you. A lot of fun things, a lot of great things going on the community this month from the illumination to an awesome parade. Really, I wanted to say shout out to staff for putting on another amazing tiller days. I'm a little biased where I think the parade is the greatest event in the city of Tuscany history. But really the whole festival, I know it's a lot for the staff to do, so thank you for that awesome thing. Felt like summer again. It was a great time at our community meeting to see 40, 50 folks come out to really work with that artist at Carla, so it's going to be a great project. I'm very excited to see everybody at Art Walk this weekend and not most importantly, but very important that let's go, Matt. We can strike that from the record, but thank you. You should have ended with that one actually, so I should have gone second to last here. We had a small but mighty quorum today and a great, great discussion. Lots going on. Thank you, Chair Lomax, for leading that discussion today and staff for all the great ideas and discussion for all the great art that's happening. I think I'm also hearing maybe Attila Day's artwork in the future. It sounds like that. I could be on the table, but I have no comments. Other than that, I appreciate everyone's time to say thank you. If that's all of our comments, we'll work hard. Thank you.