Morning. Today's irregular meeting of the Shast County Board of Supervisors is Tuesday, September 24th. The time is 9.01 a.m. We have all board members present today along with CEO Dave Rickert, County Council, Joseph Larmer, and from the Clerk of the Board's Stephanie Blankenship and Valerie Ibarra. We encourage those wishing to participate in public comment. Feel how to speak a request card. Find out the back of the room and submitted to the clerk of the board. I'll speak a request cards must be submitted to the clerk of the board before public comment period begins. This helps staff plan their days accordingly and ensures that business is conducted in an early fashion while still allowing the opportunity to observe and participate in today's meeting. With that, I'll turn things over to the clerk of the board to review the rules of order before the Board of Supervisors misblank and ship take it away. Thank you. Through the chair, I would like to remind everyone in attendance today of the Board Room Rules of Order as outlined in administrative policy 1-101, which can be found online through the Clerk of the Board's website. This policy includes signage restrictions, attendee seating, and overall conduct to ensure business is done in an orderly fashion, and that all have an equal opportunity to observe and participate. Unless addressing the board, all those in the audience shall remain sitting in the chairs provided. Standing along the back wall of the boardroom is acceptable so long as no person blocks the ingress or egress. Members of the media who want to observe, record, or otherwise document a board of supervisors meeting are requested to set up equipment from the designated area along the south windows. Chester County remains committed to conducting orderly business and a professional and accessible environment for anyone wishing to participate, attend or otherwise engage with Chester County board of supervisors. We kindly ask that all attendees adhere to these rules. And lastly, before I turn things over to you, Chair, I would like to announce the item C8, a retroactive revenue agreement with the California Department of Healthcare Services, has been pulled for discussion by supervisor Rickert from the consent calendar. Any persons wishing to address the board on this matter may do so by submitting a separate speaker request card specific to this item before public comment on this item begins. And may make their comments before the board's consideration of this item. Thank you. With that, Ms. Blankenship, I will be pulling R6 and placing that on a later agenda. So R6 will be pulled as well. You bet. All right, with that, I would like to invite up Pastor Stephen Webb of Harvest Freewill Baptist Church for invocation. Please stand and remain standing after the invocation for the pledge. Dear gracious Heavenly Father, Father, we love you so much. And Father, we thank you for how good you are, first and foremost, all praise, glory and honor be to you. Father, I pray a special prayer for the men and women here conducting business, Lord Father. I pray that they're at their best today, Lord. I pray you give them wisdom from above and discipline and diligent, be diligent in their decision-making process, Lord. I pray that the decisions that are made today glorify and honor you, that they help the community, Lord Father. And I pray you give them peace with their decision-making and courage, Lord Father. I ask this in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. Amen. Please join me in the pledge. A pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the leader of the public, we will pledge this in hands. One nation under God, indivisible, and the liberty of justice for all. Thank you, Pastor Webb. Moving on to our one, Board Matters present a certificate of recognition to Valerie Ibarra, agency staff services, analyst confidential for her life saving actions on September 3rd, 2024. I would like to turn it over to Gene Randall, our under sheriff. Or maybe Sheriff Johnson's coming up. Looks like as well. It's okay, Sheriff's kind of both of us. Hey Gene, I'm going to go ahead and let the sheriff take it. That's okay with you. Yeah. Okay. First of all, I want to sign up by thinking the CEO and the Board of Supervisors for giving us this time to recognize an extraordinary effort by one of our Chess County employees. And before we go into that, Stephanie, I always appreciate when you read the rules of the board, when you get to the, it's okay to stand in the back along the wall because that's where all the cops and public safety stand anyway so it encourages me to kind of wear often. So I want to share with you a powerful story about one of our employees that exemplifies the need for awareness, quick reaction and teamwork. It is truly life-saving in heroic efforts by our Chess County employee on this fateful day. Could have been a fateful day for another employee. And that other employee, the victim, if you will, the rescued employee, asked to be remained anonymous. So I will not be referring to that employee by name or in any sort of way, but our hero, Valerie Avara, is definitely going to be mentioned and recognized here today because what she did was extraordinary. On September 3rd, 2024, approximately 145 PM. One of our Shasta County employees was enjoying their lunch. Up in the office on the third floor there, in a simple moment of lunch and nourishment quickly turned into what could have been a tragedy and was definitely a life threatening situation. This employee found themselves with a piece of food lodged in their throat and quickly their airway was restricted and panic started set in. In that moment, the employee realized that most of the co-workers were not in the building and out on training or lunch or otherwise not available. Employee was unable to speak obviously because the airway was restricted and started to really go into a moment of panic. What do I do? How am I going to get help? So this employee just started banging on the walls and making as much noise as they could to attract anyone's attention that might be in the building. And thankfully this worked and we had three of our employees come to this employee's aid. The three employees, Valerie Abara, Marcee, Winstead and Stewart, but you tell Stewart, I don't know if I said your name or last name right there, but Stuart. Okay. They all three came rushing to this employee's aid and quickly surrounded her and Valerie in particular with her efforts in realizing that this other employee was in fact choking, stepped in immediately. So what you should know about this, when we learned about this, this is the part that's really significant. It got to the point where this choking employee was feeling pins and needles, getting the shrinking vision and blurredness and feeling like they were going to collapse. And when you get to that point, if you've ever been in any type of life threatening personal health situation, you know that that's not good. That's the end is coming quick and you're going to pass out. So Valerie recognizing what was going on, stepped in without hesitation, gave her the first thrust of a Heimlich maneuver it failed. Well the good parts coming the first attempt failed but Valerie knowing her CPR what needs to be done quickly administered a second more forceful thrust dislodging the food from this employees throat and essentially saving her life Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Heroic effort for sure and uh, Valerie deserve every bit of that standing ovation. I even brought in some of the uh, paramedics and stuff to support you because they heard of what was going on and they wanted to be here too. This all goes to show the need for everybody to know your basic first aid and basic life saving efforts as Valerie did. Without that, this other employee may or may not be here today or may have at least at the very least suffered irreparable brain damage or other health issues due to that. So, Valerie, your intervention goes without saying is just heroic. We're super proud of you. The sheriff's office upon hearing of this incident, we recognize life saving efforts within our organization and in public safety as well. But when we hear about something like this within our own broader organization, we wanna make sure it's recognized too. So let us honor Valerie today. We have a plaque for her. And I think she or the board would like to say a few words to you as well. Valerie, congratulations. Applause. We'll have to take public comment, but I'll make a motion that. I'll second. All right. So we do have one public commenter. So we'll have Mo come on up. Good morning board. Hello fellow constituents. My name is Monique Ween, and I have been in here for nine years speaking every Tuesday. What an amazing thing that Sheriff just honored you with. Everybody in this room has ever saved a life. Raise your hand. That girl. Awesome. Thank you so much for what you did. Thank you for being there. Sometimes in life when you're born, you don't know why you're born until the moment you live it and you lived it. Thank you for being there and thank you for seeing something and doing something. Man, that was huge and I love you Stephanie. Supervisor Ritter. I just want to say again, thank you, Valerie. I was there shortly right after it all happened and I shook for hours afterwards. It was such a scary moment in that office. So I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart because the person's life you saved is an extremely special person and we would never want to lose her. Thank you. Sue Bezagami. Thank you Chair McCrawick. Valerie, I can't speak any greater words that have been spoken already but I just want to say thank you. You know not everybody has to courage to step up on those moments. If you've ever come across an accident saying or this or that. Now everybody's willing to stop and take action. These would be done to save a life you did. So thank you so much. Sue Bussier-Colson. Yeah, Valerie, we all thought you're pretty amazing. Anyways, as it goes along, but this is icing on the cake. So thank you so much. You're awesome. Sue Bussier-Jones. I just want to know if she knows CPR too, because that could come in handy or come to this place. Congratulations, great job. Not everybody could do that. You did that and saved a life, so congratulations. Well, if you've had Valerie Solsa, you would know it's important that she knows for a state in CPR. Because that's what I thought happened. I thought she brought Solsa in and somebody just started to aspirate, but in some of you that have had it, know what I'm talking about. She goes, oh, it's not spicy. It's right. Valerie, congratulations again. Yeah, let's grab a picture and then we'll come up and do our vote. I'm sorry. Thank you. We'll go ahead and take that vote on accepting the certificate recognition for Barbara. All those in favor? Aye. Pastes unanimously. Fantastic. Five out. Moving on to R2. Take the following actions receiving update from the county executive officer on county issues. We'll start with that. CEO Dave Rickard. Good morning, Chairman Kray. I'm members of the Board of Supervisors, Dave Rickard, Cudi Executive Officer, first and foremost, a special thank you to Valerie for your life saving efforts and the service to your fellow co-workers. So thank you Valerie. On to update for county and state issues. Last week, Chairman Kriinae attended the rural county representatives of California, commonly known as RCRC meeting. And in the administrative office was portion of that conference. I shared the recent letter passed by our board of Supervisors seeking an income tax deduction for fire insurance. The letter was well received by other representatives in the attendance. In Sherman, CRI will be sponsoring a presentation on lesser restrictions on the future opioid settlements coming to the county. The RCA conference was well attended with numerous opportunities to communicate with our counterparts throughout the state. On September 22nd, AB 2561 was signed into law by Governor Newsom. This bill requires a presentation each fiscal year regarding recruitment and retention policies and efforts during the budget process. The requirements are fairly vague and we will be reaching out to get additional requirements on this additional administrative burden passed by the state. As you recall, she asked the county board of supervisors to pose this bill on March 26, 2024. Update on county issues, we received notice that our last FEMA COVID reimbursement of $1.3 million was approved for payment. The total reimbursement received will be $3.2 million. We're excited and appreciate staff's efforts to collect this money coming to the county. This concludes my report. Thank you, CEO Rickard. Let's just go to Supervisor Rickard. You want board reports now? Yes. We're going to skip. Okay. Okay. So I attended the law library meeting. We had discussion on putting a clinic for the public in a few months. And what the law library does is the, it's a library it's located in the Health and Human Services building on the other side of the DA's office. And so if people want to do some research, if they have a legal issue, they have the opportunity to go to that office and do research, legal research, but we're talking about having perhaps a group of lawyers put on some kind of a seminar or something so that people can come or clinic and have people ask questions. Tendent to agritourism meeting, we're still working on completing the document. Attended to League of Women's Fodors Forum in Shasta Lake City a couple weeks ago. Tended a shark meeting, the Shasta Health Assessment Me Design Collaborative. I did a radio interview on KKRN. Attended the annual Cattleman's picnic at Anderson River Park. I also want to take, for any of those in the Ag community, take this time to honor the passing of a very dear friend of mine over 50 years. Her husband and she owned the Chastula livestock auction yard. And name is Betty Peek. And she's, for those of us in the Ag industry, I'm not a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I'm a doctor, I It's been a real sad moment in our circle of friends in the Ag community. Attended the annual Shasta Land Trust event. They basically every year do kind of annual gathering. They're at their facility along the Sacramento River, beautiful evening, and it was great to see so many people supporting. Preserving the legacy of agricultural lands and open space in Shasta County. They have conserved over 61,000 acres in the county so far and they're well on the way to increasing that number. We have a couple of projects that we're working on ourselves to help get those properties conserved in the Fall River Valley. I was invited to an SEIU picnic in Bernie and attended there and gave a talk, attended the Republican Women's Forum luncheon. I was interviewed by Jefferson Public Radio, attended the Shasta County Republican Central Committee event, and I met with Larry Olmsted from United Way and Cali Brisbane, and I've invited them to do a presentation about a new program that they're bringing forward. Basically trying to engage community members and bringing the community closer together and working together. And then Saturday night attended the last and part foundation dinner at the McConnell Foundation. And so fundraiser got to see a lot of good friends. And I sat next to a newly elected supervisor for Tehama County, so he's reached out to me. And we're going to continue communicating as we're neighboring counties and he just wants to be able to. When he has a question or something, he wants to be able to talk to me. So anyway, all in all, very busy couple of weeks and look forward to the next couple of weeks too. I got a lot of my calendar, thank you. Supervisor Kelsper. All right, so after the Tuesday meeting on the 10th, I attended the CUTMODE Community Center meeting. And in the next night, I attended the Chamber of Commerce meeting. So shout out to Captain Fernandez. He was one of law enforcement officers who was there. The crowd was a little unruly after the crews being shut down because of the letter that the Chamber of Commerce had sent to Anderson writing Sheriff's Department and the CHP. So, Captain Fernandez handled himself like he always does, humming with grace and dignity and you know, answered questions, he was awesome. So, calm the crowd down a little bit. Then I attended a planning commission meeting on the 12th and then on the 14th, I didn't have my two breakfasts this time I had the VFW breakfast in Anderson and then Shingle Town had a 50th anniversary to celebrate the volunteer fire department up there So and then I also attended the Calamans barbecue in Anderson River Park with supervisor Rickard and chairman cry and Sheriff Johnson 15th Sunday. I attended our hero's dreams open house. They bought a property up out of Oak Run. These guys, it's a great veteran support group. They take some of the younger veterans say out of Afghanistan or Iraq, and they'll sit around campfire with some Vietnam vets. You know, and these young guys have some PTSD and some issues going on. They'll be, you know, saying, you guys don't understand, you don't know what I've been through. And, you know, they have the old salty vif, or a veteran from Vietnam there. And yeah, I do know what you're going through. I know exactly what you're going through. So it's a great program. Justin Bond leads it up. They've got a great piece of property. They're going to build a bunch of cabins on it. They've got a big house there now. They're put in a pond. It's amazing facility. So our hero's dreams look them up online. They do some great work. And on the 17th, I attended, I went to City Hall to get out the vote. I met a lot of great people there. Then the 18th, I attended the 50th anniversary of the WIC program, women and infants and children. They had their open house there on, I believe it was heart now. And then I went to the Chamber of Commerce, the Chester County Chamber of Commerce, Mixer Out at Norms in Palisidro. The 19th, I attended the Anderson City Council candidate forum. Sat next to my predecessor, Les Baw, and the crowd, his wife is one of the candidates that's running for her seat back. Let's see. Then I did the Classics for Cars, and Sheriff Johnson, I so regret missing your email. So they take children with horrific diseases and a lot of them terminal and the kids are the car show judges They get to pick their car, you know, and they get to ride in their car and we had one young man who's Pretty sick and he had wanted to be a he had wanted to be a sheriff's deputy. He wanted to be in law enforcement so the Gallup puts it on, reached out to Molly Roberts and asked, is there any way we could get him a ride in a police car? So our Sheriff's Department went above and beyond there. They not only got him the ride in the police car, but they swore him in as an officer and they got him a uniform. So yeah, it was... If you guys haven't been there, you have to go there because it is just absolutely heartwarming. I told Molly it should be a crime to make a 6 foot 9 guy tear up you know when she pulls in with this little kid but it was awesome and then the people line the they have a golden carpet not a red carpet they have a golden carpet and people line it with paparazzi photos and they take pictures and they cheer the kids and have them sign autographs it's quite an an event. It's very awesome. So, Classics 4 Cause. Look it up next year. Make sure you're there. And let's see. I had a meeting yesterday with Supervisor Jones and a nonprofit homeless advocate. Talked about her program. It seems to be working and looks like some good work has done there. And then I had an improv to interview with young lady that's here tonight, and today. And then I had an improv to interview with the young lady that's here tonight, today. And then I just wanted to make a couple announcements. So West Valley did get received their Golden Pathway grant. It's $200,000 for the construction trade class. And West Valley football team is traveling to Texas this weekend. They're going to be practicing at TCU and they're going to be playing a Texas school down there. And their homecoming parade is in downtown Cottonwood, October 11th at 330. And Anderson's homecoming parade is the week before in downtown Anderson on the fourth. And that concludes my report. Thank you, supervisor Kalstom. Supervisor Jones. Thank you, Chair Kray. I too was on the radio a few times these last couple weeks and then along with supervisor Kels from I brought him on to talk with Christine a cage with no boundaries and I'm going to be talking with a variety of different organizations over this next month or two that advocate for the homeless and have successful programs. For me what's important coming up is this opioid settlement and the funds and using them correctly I think is going to be very important. It's a substantial amount of money. So I want to talk to people that are in the trenches that know the problem, understand the problem, and have demonstrated that they have had success with this very difficult group of individuals. And Christine is Kade, she has no boundaries if you're not familiar with her two programs. One of the hotels she has is across from Hekel's and the other one is across from Derwinner's Mitchell. And two successful programs, getting people off the streets that are homeless, that even sex offenders, she takes pretty much anybody and has a high success rate of getting them back into society functioning. And there are other programs too, and I'll be bringing those up. And I have talked with Chair Crye and I think Chair Crye is possibly going to do just a special meeting just to have a variety of these organizations come not only for our benefit, but for the community's benefit to let the community know what we're doing, what's happening with regards to the homeless population, who has had success, and also how much money, you know, where the funding is coming from, as a county funding, city funding, state funding, so forth, there's lots of different funding avenues there. So, I brought Supervisor Telstrom in on that because I know it's not his favorite subject and it's, but it's important to all the supervisors for the sake of the county and I know it's very important. Supervisor Craig, because a lot of the stuff that happens is going to be within District 1. So a shout out to Christine a cage. Yesterday the Election Commission, I've only missed one of those and they had the I think probably the most important thing that they made a recommendation to the board is a grab it here. Consider assigning to a few commissioners to take a look at issues surrounding the electronic pull pads and the emergency operation prepared this plan which is required by the state. And so I'm glad that they took that up and they'll be making that recommendation to the board and I hope we accept that. In addition, I went to a ready-n-ary of bus authority among that committee. A few changes coming up, John Ando is doing a very good job trying to get creative. As you know, the ready-n and Area Bus Authority continues to see loss of riderships, so we're trying to do a variety of different things to increase ridership. We're going to be doing some band pools and some other smaller units that demand on response that you can call. There is an app now that pretty much will work almost throughout the entire country, but here in Red and as well, where you can plan and get your route and plan for multiple days or weeks in advance. So, Reading Area Bus Authority attempting to try to get ridership up, you know, since the pandemic it has been dropping. And when I served on Reading City Council it was better than the ridership was better but it's been over time. It's continuing to drop and we'd like to see that improved but so John's on that. Attended to get out the vote for those with handicaps. Chair, I'm going to make a motion that we bring this back if I can get support from the board. And I've been on the radio a couple of times now talking about this particular incident that happened, as you know, in 2022, there was an investigation within it for the DA. There was a whistleblower that had came forward and stated that campaigning was going on in the DA's office. We have since learned that now that in that 2022 season of the 1500 cases that the DA should have completed at least 90% of like all the other counties in California did. She only completed 700 leaving 800 cases being dismissed. A massive issue. The investigation said there was sustained allegations, but incidental. Under further review, this is not incidental. My motion is to bring back the DA to discuss what happened in the office in the season of 2022 Hope and for a second chair I'll second for discussion for so council, Larma is that Supervisor Jones bring that up in his supervisor report right now Is this something that we can discuss a little bit right now or? No, so the only thing you can discuss is whether you're gonna bring it back or not not the actual Yeah, to bring it back. Okay, so we don't even need to have comments about it. We can just vote on that. I guess if we want to bring it back So so this is just a place something on a future agenda item. Those who want to comment, comment when it comes back on the agenda. Okay, so we'll just- Yeah, my motion is just to bring this back. So we have to even take a vote for that. We can just- I have a question for Councillor Rillquick. Sure, absolutely. Supervisor Grant. And just have to come back as in this way, can we just ask the DA to come and give that presentation. What's been asked is to place it on a future agenda. And so that's all we can do from this position is decide whether you wanted on a future agenda. And if you vote to do that, we'll pull it. Well, she's an elected official, so whether she decides to come or not is like, I mean, supervise the record. I just want to ask County Council, what jurisdiction do we have over this? I mean, I'm not sure as another elected official, it's kind of a gray area for me. Can you clarify, please? Yeah, so the only control that this board has over the elected official who serves as the prosecutor is those functions which are county functions and related to budgets. Those functions that are related to prosecution are left to the attorney general. Okay, so we'll just we'll bring it back. We'll just bring it back to the next board meeting when she's available. Okay, emotional. Can you take a vote? I mean, we can take a vote. Let's find all those in favor. vote. We can take a vote. Let's find all those in favor. Aye. Opposed? Opposed? Okay, so, pass us three, too. Yeah. Well, let's not about, okay, go ahead and finish your supervisor report. That concludes my report, Chair. Supervisor Garne. Thank you, Chair and Recruit. start with this one. Last week I took a flyover to look at some of the marijuana that grows in Shasta County. And what I saw was mind boggling. It's, Sheriff, I like to say, is thank you for your team, the whole entire Met team that's out there working on boots on the ground, putting their lives at risk every day. And they go out in a week prior that when I was out there, they served 34 search warrants, took out thousands and thousands of plants, and we're flying back over and they're replanting already in the same exact locations. And some of the pictures I have, you can see Shastelake in the background. And what that tells me is these people are using such crazy chemicals and pesticides to grow. This stuff is leaching out and it's getting into shastolake. It's getting into our water supplies. I don't know if you guys understand this or not, but there is over 300 illegal chemicals and pesticides being used in these marijuana grows. There's one of them called Carboheurin and it's such a powerful pesticide that one drop can kill a 600-pound bear. And this stuff is being used, and if this stuff gets into our water supply, what are we doing? I don't know, what are we doing? How do we stop this? I know nobody has the real answer, but I think we need to start with maybe council changes in some policies that that allow us to go after the property owner. Maybe allow us to cap the wells where these repeat growers are going over and over again. Because I was up there, these people aren't living there. It's not a home. It is a tent or it looks like a dump site over and over and over again. I was shocked at the amount of grows that there actually were. I've been on the ground with the eradication teams before and you see it, but you just see it from the ground. When you see it from the air you guys, you'll be scared if you ever go up in the air and see what's happening in this county. We have to do something. We have to stand behind our sheriff. We have to stand behind these people that are putting their lives at the risk every single day. I don't know how your guys go back to work and go back to the same growth over and over again. How do they not give up? I mean, it's got to be so frustrated. I'm frustrated just after what I saw. Anyway, all of you that alone, because I could talk all day about my frustrations with that. But, Sheriff, thank you for what you guys are doing in all your efforts. So moving on, I had a meeting with the CEO and Troy Bartlemay. We talked about some of the issues. We're trying to accomplish out in IGOOna with the fire hydrant, which the grant is looking good. That's not going to be completed before my term is up. I've had conversations with supervisor Hlec Long this week, he's going to continue that moving into the next section once he's elected or put into office. I had a Sierra Sacramento Valley EMS meeting. One of the things that came out of that is our amulet times that we've been reporting for years, have been a little bit off with Shascombe. They were reporting them as when the call was dispatched, not when the call came in. So they're just slightly different. They're still okay, but just kind of a correcting mechanism if you will in our ambulance times. Attendant of juvenile justice coordinating council meeting for Supervisor Criving, he was at RC RC. One of the things that struck me with that meeting was the ACIS scores. Out of 23 Juveniles that had, they'd ask these questions to, 17 out of 23 had ACIS scores that range from 7 to 10. If you guys know what ACIS scores is, Google it. Look it up. Do it yourself. Give you a fine out of your score. You score 7 out of 10. You're a messed up individual. And our kids are messed up. Okay. And what was interesting is that you look at the rest of the data that was shared. The three top categories were family violence, divorce, and physical neglect. So there's your common problems that we're having with our kids. I also attended a CCP meeting, Community Council Partnership. We barely had quorum, you guys, for that meeting. We did not have quorum earlier in a year. And supervisor Craig, thank you for letting me know about the juvenile justice meetings. I know they to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. Friday, do I excuse me, I had the CCP meeting, and then when he asked me about following up with this one, I said, you know what, we have to be there because we had no representation at that meeting in March. So it's like important, and there's like two meetings a month for us to show up and be there. So I appreciate the efforts with that. With that, that'll include my report. Thank you, supervisor Garmin. The, so I want to touch on one thing, and I'm going to bounce around a little bit. And I don't want to be combative supervisor Garmin, but when you say about the ACEs scores and kids being messed up, that's the, please, that's the issue of why ACEs is wrong. Because what we do is we tell kids or people in general that they're victims, that it's horrible. And instead of giving hope, our system gaslights the kids and saying, well, you've got all these things against you, you've got all these things against you. So kids don't ever get a chance to raise their head up and say, what I can be, they focus on all the trauma in their life. And that's why ACE is a broken model and has been proven out. I'll segue that into my work with Scowy recently. I've been asking for metrics and data around some of the programs. We roughly passed through $3 million give or take from the HSA to Scowy. And they were very excited about how engaged I was, but the more questions that I call it the Y-shuffle in my private company. and they were very excited about how engaged I was, but the more questions that I call it the Y-shuffle in my private company, we say Y, Y, Y, Y, and we just drill it down to what the actual issue is. And the more questions I've asked, it got to a point where it was like, okay, no more data. Because I think challenging them about what the outcomes are and the quiet part was set out loud at one point where they said you get this money from the state it's got to be passed through to somebody we're the only game in town so why not just give it to us and I had to like replay that in my mind like was that just said and and that's the issue is if that is the only game in town which I don't know if the metrics aren't producing a great result and we got to find a new game, we've got to find somebody else because the money we're spending on kids is going up, but there is still many issues that need to be dealt with. So I'll just put that aside. I know Superintendent Freeman is new, newly appointed, and he's getting his bearings. I did go to the county office of education, state of the counties breakfast yesterday. Had to leave about 20 minutes early, but I was there. I got there at 730 and it started at 8. Left about quarter to 9. So I had a lot of time, the first half hour before it started talking to staff and others. And I think a lot of us want the same thing, but a lot of us sometimes get nervous about what they share publicly or privately because how it could affect their job or how it could affect their surrounding. And I just want to get to the truth on a lot of these issues I'll be talking about today. I've had multiple meetings concerning the public defender's office. CEO Rickert and I went over and spent, I don't know, maybe an hour, hour and a half there, met with a lot of the staff, a lot of good people, a lot of people that really, really care about the criminal justice system, the constitution, making sure everybody has a fair trial. So I really appreciate the feedback from them as interviews are approaching for that new position. I had two meetings over at City Hall. One was the We Care a lot event, which was get out the vote. It's for individuals with developmental disabilities. That was great. A lot of people had a lot of great questions, so I was honored to be a part of that. Also I met with the director of the MLK Center and as it relates to the anti-drug and curriculum that they have that they're working with. And again, some of that money is a past I believe from Hank. So I'm working through just seeing what all the different organizations are doing, how they're putting metrics out. Are they moving the needle in these areas about deterring kids from drugs and alcohol or criminal behavior. I attended the girls' Inc fundraiser, also attended the Shasta Caldamans fundraiser, supervisor, calcium, record, and Sheriff Johnson. Youth option Shasta, we have a new executive director, Jennifer Coulter. She's our first new director in roughly 13 years. She's the interim director at this time. I'm excited for some changes coming there and there's a lot more to follow in those that follow my radio show or other things. There's a lot that's going to be unpacked over the next few weeks about that. RCRC, one of the issues that came up was we had a there was different panels like you had you had Assemblyman Gallagher and Brian Dolly were up at one point talking and then another panel was all around basically AB 205 and the person that was up there she was Shannon Shannon wasn't the lobby a Shannon was the head of a big solar company and she's talking about, and she made the statement that some counties are very interested in giving over local control to the CEC because it's easier for them. And it was like that record scratch. So I said, nope, just like that. We had maybe a couple hundred people. And then I said, like, I'm going to say it loud. I said, nope. And then I just yelled out, Shasta says, no. And then a few people started clapping, then people started cheering. Because we're listening to this panel, and a person is just trying to gaslight, you know, I don't know, what do you think, supervisor or CEO record, maybe 100 supervisors, maybe and then maybe 100 staff, counties roughly make that right. That's roughly what it was. Yeah, and so at the break, many came up to me and said, you know, we don't know much about 205. I said, well, if you don't, you better start paying attention because what happens in Shasta County is the road map for the rest of the country. What's going to happen is if Fountain Wind is successful and they are doing things right now behind the scenes trying to get different groups to flip sides, they're working hard on it, but it's not just about Shasta County, it's about the rest of the state. And if other counties don't, we've already spent a million dollars in litigation on this. And the thing with most of these, it's like the NIMBY, not in my backyard, it's not my problem. So talking to a lot of the rural counties, I said, this is where you're going to have solar fields or wind turbines and all this stuff all over if we allow it to happen here. So there are some that are going to actually be reached out to county council and our CEO just about what are some things they can do, what are some things we've learned. But it was interesting to have a person up there on a panel saying that counties want to give away local control and nobody kind of spoke up but I'm glad I did. So I've had multiple meetings with the court and I've had a couple brief ones with DA Bridget and the sheriff. I know we're talking a lot about and I understand Supervisor Jones's motion wanting to come back. I'm not personally so, I'm going to support any motion if someone wants to bring somebody back for a discussion and that's no problem. But you see the interviews that are happening, the things that are being put out either on social media or statements. And I don't think it's an accurate to say I've spent more time on this issue than probably being a supervisor up here. I've met with Melissa Fowler Bradley three times. I've met with the sheriff. I've met with other law enforcement agencies, the public defender's office, and we do have an issue. And I think as a community, we need to just get to the bottom of it. Like what is the real issue? Do we not have enough judges? Are the judges not working hard enough? Are we not arresting people? Are we arresting people, but there's no place to put them in jail? Are we not prosecuting people, are we arresting people, but there's no place to put them in jail? Are we not prosecuting people? I mean, the answer is out there. And I think the public needs to be let in on what all of the inside talk is among all these agencies. So I'm going to just publicly ask, and I've already asked a sheriff, he said he's absolutely on board for it. I would like to have the DA come in and we do an agenda item where we can talk about it. Because I don't like the media telling Shasta County story or the city of Reading story. Let the people that are actually in the know and that are doing the work tell us the story. Because I think we deserve that. So I'm going to push for that because honestly I don't want to spend a bunch of money having a third party come in and do that work because it's going to be a year or two and I think we could solve this in one meeting in about two or three hours and let the public make up their mind of what's going on. It shouldn't come from supervisor Jones myself or anybody up here. Get the people that are making the decisions in the room and let's have the discussion. Let's be the adults in the room and say, hey, look, there's a problem. Criminal, the criminal element is substantial and it's not going to get better. The state's not going to help us. So we got to figure it out as a group. So I'm going to really push for that publicly to have us all come in on an agendas item. Maybe it's a special meeting and we hammer it out because the next part, body camps. Many of you saw the incident that was on Facebook of a traffic stop. The individual that was driving was actually an usher in my wedding when he was in eighth grade. The arresting officer was, I played football with, and we attend the same church today. It was horrible having two polarizing things happen to people you care about. But I'll tell you, the body cams, I was already a believer in body cams, but now I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I know we've talked about it, you're still working on it, but that can't come fast enough, because the thing about body cams is, I mean, there it is. There's the truth, there's what happened. People can make up their own mind with what happened. The next thing is last year, when HHS say in this board move to remove ourselves out as the lead agency of the COC, we got a lot of flack for it in the community. And city of redding swooped in and city of redding were going to be the saviors and take care of it. But as we all know now, the city of writing is saying, we've got to dismantle it. It doesn't work. And the three reasons are administration, funding, and collaboration. So I just want to say that the things that we said a year ago of why it's a broken model, the city of writing is now saying the same exact thing. And there's going to be more to follow on that. And also, last year there was a new initiative in HHSA, which was instituted in regards to internal and external audits of programs. And I really wanted to bring forth some of the findings that they found very, very early on, but they said it was going to be bad for employee morale. It was going to be bad. And then there was also a component of HR there. Like, you can't just publicly hold an employee accountable or for mistakes they made. But I still struggle with that. That has even something I've addressed with council, Laura, since he's been here because those were past county councils. And obviously there's definitely a different way to get places. Because I just want more of this information out there. So one thing I will say is any nonprofit that is receiving funds from Shasta County, I'm going to be looking at bringing forth the resolution of basically on executive compensation and the processes of what we do. And we're going to get very granular about what we're spending and what we're giving. But roughly 1200 nonprofits estimated across Shasta County. No, the short office does a phenomenal job but she can't audit all of that stuff and I think the more accountability we bring to the public of where our money's going and what's happening to it. That's just the most important thing. So that is a really, really thank you, whatever that was for what it was for. So the last thing is we have here item two. We have a letter from two supervisor elect, a elect plumber, a advisor elect. I've had my name up for a while. Yeah, so when this part's done, I'll come back. Okay, well this has direct to do with the board reports. Okay, can I get through number two and then we'll okay? Is that okay? I'm just trying to get through my reports. It ties into the board reports. Yeah, supervisor Rick, we're going. Yes, yes. Well first of all, I want to thank Tim for bringing up an issue that when I got in on this board in 2017, I started talking about was the illegal grows. And I just want to take this opportunity to thank Sheriff Johnson. And I'm in continual contact with people that are involved in this. And we've had some major busts in the Montgomery Creek area, but it's my understanding that they're coming back even thicker, the grows are. But this is something that I have talked about. Matter of fact, my husband and I met with Doug the Mulf of Backed Washington to see about this in about 2015. And this has been a concern of mine because people need to think about what is doing to our environment. But the fear of the end and all these other chemicals are being used on these plants. And who's ingesting it but are young people for the most part. So this is impacting health and people talk about the increase in cancer. I don't know if there's a correlation or not, but I'm saying is that we need to be really on top of this and I want to reach out. Again, I had a message to the team to thank them and to know that I appreciate every single day that the work they do. It's not easy work. I talked to some of them. I know our personal friends and how difficult it is. And so please share if Johnson convey that message to them again. That this is something that's near and dear to my heart. I would like, I'm kind of in the process of working on bringing a speaker to our board chambers so that we can educate more and more people in just a county about the detrimental effects that these marijuana grows are having. And also about AB 205, I started this fight for the people of Round Mountain in Montgomery Creek. As soon as AB 205 was implemented, I talked to Mr. Kennedy at RCRC and I've been working with RC RC on this. We had the hearing here in Jasda County with CEC here and it's all in the public record. So I've been fighting that for many years and I guess it's been one or two at least. As soon as that went into process, I want the public to know that this is a real issue for the people of Ram Mountain and Montgomery Creek and we are the test case for the state of California. And so I will continue that fight. The other thing is I have talked to Bruce Ross and I've talked to Melissa Bradley Fowler and they keep telling me that the legislature is the one that funds these judges. So I don't want to, is that true Mr. Lamar that as a board do we have any jurisdiction over what happens with the courts? I want us to focus on issues that we have jurisdiction over as the point I'm trying to make. So no, we don't have any jurisdiction over the court. The legislature determines what judges are put on the bench. But that doesn't prevent us from talking about a system- Right. Discussion. And that's why I've sent letters and I've talked to the Dallee's offices and that kind of thing about this. And so that's where we need to put the pressure and that's where we need to focus the attention. So maybe perhaps if we have that discussion, they are the ones that should be present here that we can convey or that message to, is where I think we ought to go with that. I just wanted to make some comments so that we kind of clarify things. Thank you. Supervisor Garmin. Thank you. I'll try to be brief. Supervisor Rickert, Rowland Mountain is, Montgomery Creek is a problem. It's one of the areas we flew over. And one is, one is crazy is from the area you sit there you see $2.99 and you see the little road coming off of what up the mountainside every property is growing and it's just the hoop houses that you just see it they have no fear Absolutely zero fear of being caught because if they do they're just gonna get a little tiny fine the people run They don't even part of the arrest anybody No fall of the sheriff, but this is the reality how this is happening. So they just come right back, it's just a numbers game. These big people and these pot farms, it's just a numbers game, they'll take their chances. But Montgomery Creek is a devastating problem. What really threw me for a loop, you guys is- Char if I may, I apologize for the interaction, but we are getting a little off the topic. I want to make sure we see the difference. I think it's just my thought that I'll get off top. But it was in my board report. But literally right off the highway within 100 feet, obviously 99 are gross. It's just you don't see it from the highway. next few weeks, guys. Be careful. All right, thank you. So I'm going to go back to number two on our list. We received a letter or request a CEO record. I reached out to Graham Noss, who is the president of CSAC, Supervisor Garmin, myself, and Kelschrom all did different parts of the new Supervisor's Institute. And I think there is definitely some positive things from it. But one of the things I brought back very, very early in the first couple of months was the need for a cohesive board. Now, elected officials are independent, mostly usually all type a personalities. But I said there really needs to be some training. And that was shot down pretty quick, which is fine. I was here a month. Well now I've been here almost two years, so I asked Graham considering the request of Mr. Long and Mr. Plummer about would he do something specific here in Shasta County come to us? Do the new training for our county individuals. If there is a new person, because the district three race is coming, if not, then it would be for Mr. Long and Mr. Plummer, and if it, if there was a third new supervisor, then they could have an onboarding themselves here in Shasta. But at that same time, bringing in the other board members who will serve together as a unit and do a one and a half day workshop. He said they have done that in the past. It has been highly successful and he is willing to do that. So as the request, and that's actually going to be less money for the county, and there would have to be no travel and the entire board would benefit. So I would say for this item, we move forward. And I would ask CEO Rickard or maybe Mr. Deputy Butel, a recent sheriff pronounce your name like that. Now I'm going to mess it up and I've never messed it up. But have Stewart work directly with Graham on putting that together. So I don't know if we have to have a motion because it was a written request and how it's on here. But how does that go? Ms. Blankenship. Chair, we would need, this is a voteable item along with item number three. So we can either take them as separate votes or I would defer to council if we can take them all as one vote. I was going to take them separate, but it's up to you. How do we- Item two and item three should be separate votes, Mr. Chairman. And I believe we do have some public comments. Oh. Speaker requests cards of that with you. Okay, I'll tell you what I'll do. I will jump to public comment. Supervisor Garmin, is that okay with you? Yes. Oh, you go ahead. And what's going to ask is if they come here and do the training, are they going to get the extensive training that would be given to the Supervisor Institute? Is it just going to be one meeting or? So this would be in like March or April or would have been. They would still continue to go out. But they'd be sitting supervisors and in terms of the budget, we would be able to, I'll just say supervisor Kelsch or myself, possibly supervisor record would benefit from that as well, because I think. So basically, let me get this straight this whoever's sitting supervisors would be here for the training Graham or CSAC where to come up here Graham would do the new supervisors alone. Yeah, and then the second day or the second day and a half or whatever would be the later the new supervisors Would it were three would go down south? Correct. They would still they absolutely so we still be paying for them to go down there for that part. Yes, it just wouldn't be the additional one. Okay. Okay. Okay public comment. Oh councilor Marmer. Thanks for slowing us down. I mean thanks for it. I just want to be clear on item number two You either have to vote to approve or decline Their request and then you at the same time you can request that the item for an In county training be just put on to for a future. Okay, I take public comment for that. All right, I need to. Robert, are you here still? Nope, Don Ducke. Dolores, Jeff, Larry S and Jenny. And we're going to do two minutes because we are running way back. So we're going to do this section of R2. We'll be two minutes as the speaker. Morning Board. I wanted to speak in support of the new supervisors going to the new supervisor institute for CSAC and not waiting until after they're seated. This is a huge job and the onboarding process should take place before they are seated. I also am in favor of your ideas as well in doing like a cohesiveness training for the entire board. I'd also like to talk a little bit about Supervisor Jones, you brought up the whistleblower report on the DA. And I just think it's important that for the public watching, that they know that the outcome of that report was that it was unfounded, the allegations. There was a diminimous use of somebody's personal device while they were sitting in their office, but most of the other allegations in the report were unfounded. And I also wanted to talk a little bit about the whistle blowing process and the fact that the county made that report public. And it really in my mind, knee knee caps are whistle blowing program because it was very easy to figure out who that whistleblower was and the confidentiality of that person. And so what are other employees that want to report wrongdoing in their offices? They're going to question, is my name going to be out there in public. And then in terms of bringing back the prosecution rates for 2022, that's really out of your. I'm sorry, CEO Rickard. I believe this is off topic, Mr. Turner. I item two only. I'm speaking to the supervisor's reports. And in the past you haven't taken those are non-votable items. And so the voteable item before you right now is item two. Okay. Okay, thank you very much. Okay, Dolores Lucero, followed by Jeff, followed by Larry S, followed by, and if we can get in queue, that'd be great, Jenny. It's amazing. You want to make a change. You want people to learn certain things and follow your steps. But yet, you're not willing to be a good leader when I'll break in the laws. It is amazing how many times we have to come here to listen to you and then you wanna cut two minutes for us to come up here. Because you talk too much, you take up our time. For this item, I just can believe that Patrick Jones, you actually Patrick Jones usually recuse yourself in item, and this item bill, assembly bill 2642, because it does basically have something to do with guns. Okay? So you should recuse yourself, but I could say that, but you know what? We know your process. We know how you deal with things. You're not going to recuse yourself. Because that's what you guys do. You think you're above the law. So, you know, I think it's kind of, I'm learning to understand, just let you guys just violate all the laws. And then I just take over from there. And I do my part. So keep on doing the lousy job. Jeff, followed by Larry S, followed by Jenny. I was gonna speak on R2 subsection three, is that? Yes, followed by Larry S, followed by Jenny. I was going to speak on R2 subsection 3, is that? Yes, absolutely. Okay. So I want to speak about this opposition, this proposed opposition to AB 2642. To me, this is just a further example of this board's lawlessness, lack of common sense, and lack of concern for public employee safety. You know, last week I went into that issue about lack of concern of employee safety on the part of Jones-Crayon-Kelstrom in that you adopted this resolution to allow concealed carry in all county buildings. And then you had also indicated that there were gonna be signs posted, there was going to be training given to employees, there was, this was gonna be implemented in a safe manner. Now Mr. Jones made my point last week and Patrick said, quote, county employees are different than members of the public. End quote, the policies we stated for county employees and training will eventually come. And when that training comes, employees can get permission from the CEO to carry weapons. So that we're nine months in and the training hasn't come. What could be further evidence that you guys could care less about safety armors? This is not item three, this is related to the resolution. This is related to the lack of concern on public safety for our employees. AB 2642, as I understand it, let me finish. Well, stop the clock. You only get to finish if you're staying on top of the clock. I'm staying on topic. Let's bring this back. That's your first warning. Are you going to give me some time back or are you just going to continually interrupt me? I'm not interrupting you stay on topic. I am on topic. Our county council says you're not. Well, this is the opposition to AB 2642. That's what I'm talking about, the lack of concern for public safety. That's what I've been talking about. This is outrageous. It really is outrageous. That's how I can say it. There he is, followed by Jenny. I do want to talk about item three, which is this letter of opposition. And evidently, what is, what it is, update existing anti-antimidation laws, and this letter that you want to send. And I'm assuming that it probably fun is down to the three persons cabal. When I hear anti-intimidation law, I think that's a good thing. I don't like to be intimidated. I don't like to try to intimidate people, and I won't be intimidated myself. So when there's a movement to update existing anti-intimidation laws, and then I look at what I've observed over the months that I've been coming here. The eye rolling, the snarky comments, the criticisms of people who you disagree with is all a form of intimidation. And it's just what you three try to do, especially two of you. And it's wrong. It's intimidation. You've intimidated department heads and you've intimidated them even through the point of leaving county employment. And I want to just as an aside, when I see two of you especially. You have to stick to R2. I try to give you something. This is intimidation. I'm trying to help you. And you're trying to do it right now. And it won't work. You try and intimidate a couple other members of this board in public. I could only imagine how you treat those two board members in private meetings. I can just speculate. I don't know for sure, but you must be really rude and obnoxious to two of our other board members if that's the way you treat them in public. Jenny. Thank you for considering Matt Plummer and Alan Long and their training, especially since Matt Plummer has won by such a great deal. It is important that his training start so that he makes a good supervisor. I'm in great support of that. When it comes to the letter, I'm slightly confused why you would oppose voter intimidation. See, I'm against voter intimidation, but your letter specifically states that you are, you believe it in fringes on the first amendment, right? But I do believe that first amendment rights are already infringed upon because you're not allowed to wear shirts with people's names on it. You're not allowed to do things that show you are for or against anyone. So how it infringes on a first amendment, right? I'm not sure. Now a second amendment right with guns, you're not allowed to have guns there in the first place. So I'm really concerned about why you would be against AB. Come on. Why you would be against AB 2642? It is interesting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I guess we'll take it in two parts. Mr. Chairman. CEO Rickert. I just want to clarify for R2, the new elected supervisors have the right to attend the training. It's whether or not they can go to the annual conference. And I think the request is that they forgo that for individual training coming back. And so we can put a request out to the elected supervisors if they wanted to do that. I just wanted to clarify that issue. So about having correct, so my motion will be that Graham, the president of CSAC, and he's agreed. He's told me, he's given me the, I don't know if the word, the promise that he would handle this himself personally and do the new supervisor's institute. We would do that after the election in November. So that way if there is a new supervisor in District 3, that person would be included with the other two. And if there's not, that would still happen right after Thanksgiving at some point early December. And then also at that time, the other supervisors would have, I don't want to say, a team building, but for lack of better term, that's what it would be in that two-day span. Yes, Mr. Chairman. I just want to clarify the supervisors if they chew. If the supervisors elect chew's not to honor that, they can still go to the new training if they choose to do so. I mean, I believe that's board policy. I mean, is that board policy? Yes. Yeah. And again, Mr. Chairman, the only thing that we can vote on today is whether to approve their request, and then you can put the other item that your discussion, you can have to place that on a future agenda. I mean, my, and I don't know if this is a conversation you have with them Dave, but the money that I mean we would save by doing this other way will actually be way ahead and they'll get a better product and it would benefit the entire board. So maybe that can be explained to them as well. Yes, I will have a discussion with the supervisor Alex and advise them of whatever this board wants me to advise them on and give them direction. Okay. All right. Supervisor Garmin, thank you for being patient. Thank you. So if I'm understanding all this correctly, the only thing we're voting on is the CSAT conference then, because they can go to the new supervisors training regardless of what we say. Yeah, the only thing you're considering is the written request and item number two and whether to approve their request to go to both trainings is what this item is. If you want to bring back on another agenda, the other issue of whether you want to do some in-house training here, that's a separate issue. Every week in a agenda is that at a later time. Do you know when this, you know since you're the CSAC rep, Supervisor C, correct, do you know when this trainings are scheduled for at this point? I believe the other one was, well, Stephanie, do you know that off hand? I want to say it's late first quarter or might be summer. There's none, there's none scheduled before they take off. They. Yes, so there are, module one is a two day course. The first day is November 18th, that's part of the CSAC annual conference. Day two is held virtually on December 9th, which again is before they take office. Modules two and three both happen in 2025, module two being in February, and module three being in July. Okay. I think it's important that they do take the training before they take office. They need to get an understanding of what this is about. I'm going to make a motion to approve R2. Or R2 subplot 2. And I'll second that. And that's just for the training and the CSAT conference. Do the additional CSAT conference. Well, that's where the training is happening. Is that correct? Yes. So they're going to be there. What was the save or what was the additional cost for the extra time? I mean, I guess if that's where they're. Mr. Chairman, I don't have numbers. I do believe if multiple supervisors are going there for training and the conference, the additional cost to the conference is $500 per supervisor. And then there's- That doesn't include travel, per game, anything else. Well, the travel's already done the travel, but the hotel I guess. All right, so I mean- It would be $1,000 total. I'm going to have to get that exact- And that's I mean if that doesn't include hotel because it'll be their extra extra time that won't include hotel additional hotel class and everything else So it's it will be probably an extra couple thousand then probably correct just to confirm the registration is $725 for C-SAC so it would be an additional 725 per supervisor elect I mean I mean again Thank you for the clarification. I think Tim is I mean you again, this is my point. Thank you for the clarification. My thing, Tim, is, I mean, you know Graham pretty well. You spent quite a bit of time with him. You've done that. I mean, my thought would be, it would be way more fiscally responsible and also better for them to have a personal onboarding with Graham. Mr. Chairman, I have to interrupt. Oh, so you guys can have this discussion if you agenda as that item, but now the discussion should be constrained to the request from the supervisors. Okay. Can we just, I mean, can we bring it back? Can we just bring this back? Because it's not going to matter in terms of- Chair, I believe that the registration actually closes before our next meeting. I can confirm that. It doesn't work. I can confirm that. Just like RCRC and Tim was able to get Tim's reimbursement back three weeks past the date. So I'm not worried about that. I would like, I have a meeting with supervisor, like Plumber tomorrow. So I'll ask him and if it's something that he's like, hey, I'd rather do that. That's fine. I mean, I'd support that. But I'd like them to at least know the other options of what I think it would be better. For this or more going forward, yes. So you have a motion in a second to approve. So you would either have to vote on that or make a motion to continue it to another room. I'll make a motion to continue it. So we have a substitution by supervisor Craig to postpone. I'll second that. Okay, so I guess we'd take the boat. And I just want to make sure Plumber and Long understand like if we if they decide they'd rather go to that Presented with the options than great. They then they go to that But I'd like them to understand there's I think there's a better way to do it And it's actually saving us money as well And I've been through it so as supervisor Kel Kelschum recently, and this board is so fractured. Now I'd like to get the next board on a really good foot footing going forward. And I think Graham is a person, Supervisor Garmin, you know Graham. I think he'd do a great job with that. Yeah, I just, yeah. Okay, Supervisor Rick or CEO Ricker. Just clarification, the second motion would be voted on. Okay, so we'll take, continue this next week. That gives, that gives I think CEO Rickert and myself or anybody else time to talk to them. And anybody here can reach out to Graham and get his input as well. So will the steel roll call start with supervisor Rickert? Supervisor Rickert? Yes. I think a supervisor Keltstrom? Yes. Supervisor Cry? Yes. Supervisor Jones? Yes. And supervisor Garmin? No. Okay, pass this for one. Okay. We will go to the number three. Okay, it's approval letter of opposition to Assembly Bill 2642, which up states existing anti-intimidation laws and consider action on specific legislation. We would need a motion and then we can have board discussion. Chair, since I brought this up, I'd like to make a motion that we approve a letter of opposition to Assembly Bill 2642. Okay. All second. Okay, is there any discussion on that? Go ahead, supervisor. Well, so obviously when you read this, Shasta County is mentioned. So obviously somebody from the elections department is in contact with the particular assembly member that did this. And what it does is it's accusing people that simply have a valid concealed weapon permit as being extremist. And so it's just a typical law that you would see that comes out of California that puts all the, I mean, it creates restrictions based solely on a person that has a valid concealed weapon permit. And so the words are vague, they're poorly defined. And it would leave a law abiding citizens not to be able to exercise their second amendment, right? And most likely their first amendment, right. The people that have valid concealed weapon permits do not cause troubles. And that's been proven up and down the state. I think this, and this is basically referring to a lot of people here that have, 12,000 people that have valid concealed weapon permits in this county as extremists. And so I take offense to this and I think we should send a letter of opposition. Oh, CEO Ricker. Oh, I'm sorry, supervise a Ricker. Yes. Yes, Chester County is mentioned in this. Again, we bring ourselves into the spotlight in this state and which doesn't make me happy. So, I thought about this long and hard, and I am a total believer, again, I go through how many gun cases we have at our house, and I believe in the Second Amendment right. But this is a very volatile election cycle, and that's been evidenced in Donald Trump having two assassination attempts. And I think that's something that we really need to take seriously here in Shasta County. And I think that this is a response to prevent the abuse of intimidation. And I've set it up here before a person that had a concealed weapons permit has made death threats to me. So if you know enough about mental illness, a person can function pretty normally and sometimes they go through a bad patch in their life and they become very unhinged. So you can pass your concealed weapons permit, you can pass everything, you're fine, everything's good. You have a, you know, a trauma in your life, an accident, brain injury, whatever. And then that person isn't functioning well, and they still have a concealed weapons permit. And so I don't think that's a standard that you should hold as, oh, nothing's gonna happen if you have a concealed weapons permit. There's no guarantees about person's behavior. Again, I go back to the two Trump assassination attempts and you know, these people had guns. I am mostly concerned about supporting the staff. So the staff is not in a precarious position of feeling intimidated if someone comes in with a gun. It's like I say, I go back to its volatile election cycle. Tempers have flared in the past. And I, my first and foremost, consideration is to protect the staff. And I don't want to lose staff if they feel that they're not being supported by us as a board of supervisors to protect them. And it's all about public safety. Then we could lose people. And I want to make sure that our elections are move very seamlessly through the process this year. So I don't want to lose staff. And so as a result of that, I'm going to vote no on this in support of the staff in the elections department, so they don't feel that they're being intimidated. Supervisor, if I may, because I can't get in queue. One of the Supervisor Ricker, would you be willing to? Because to me, I read this more about supporting, this is more of a second amendment issue and not saying that you're by default a criminal. When you talk about the Trump assassinations and what not like, that isn't by a law biting citizen who has gone through the steps necessary to have a concealed carry. My question is I do not like and especially because I have to sign it as the chair, would you would you move to accept the letter if we put something in about whether it's voter intimidation, voter intimidation is not okay. I would like to see a little bit softer language in here, still making the point that it's a citizens free exercise of their second amendment right. However, voter intimidation of any kind is not okay. It's not okay. And I want to make sure that we support our staff, but at the same time, I'm not ever going to really vote against something that's second amendment because I think I just won't. And- I don't think this is a second amendment, right? This is not really what this is about. This is about people carrying guns into the election department. And- It doesn't matter if it's election department, it's- Well. It's carrying anywhere, it's a second amendment. I mean- Well, I read the bill. Yeah, and so that was the example that was used. And so that's the only thing I could go and I have made contact in the department and I feel very strongly that my primary responsibility is a supervisor is to protect our staff. And that is that's where I'm going to stand And I'm not going to deviate from that. Because that is the number one issue here. We cannot lose people before this very important election of November 5th. And we could lose people. They could feel unsupported and I just can't do that to our staff. And for me, it's not just because it's not just elections, it's schools, it's everywhere else, there's vulnerable populations, and people with the Second Amendment are the ones that stand in the gap and keep them safe. Supervisor Jones. Yeah, thanks, Chair. Supervisor Rickard, your argument is just irrational. Criminals are coming and going in every building in this county, in every building in this state, criminal behavior, this doesn't solve criminal behavior. You're talking about 12,000 people, outstanding people that have concealed weapon permits, and about 100,000 people in this state that have perfect backgrounds. You're confusing two different things. You're talking about criminal behavior. This isn't going to stop a criminal from coming into the elections office and causing harm. It won't stop that. It's protecting the second amendment, which you have a hard time understanding. No, it has nothing to do with protecting the second amendment. Okay. It has to do with people that have a mental health condition. It's statistically, no, if you knew anything about mental health. If we can please keep it, statistically- If we can please keep it down, supervised a record, go ahead. Statistically, it shows, anybody that knows anything about mental health, a person can be a highly functional person, not have an episode of any kind of mental health issue, and then they can have a trauma in their life or something that triggers something or they have a brain injury or something and it could change their approach. And you would know, I mean the sheriff can't follow everybody around to see what their particular situation is. We need to protect our staff. And I think this is an extremely volatile election cycle. People are on edge. Tempers are sometimes near the boiling point, we've seen it in the past. I do not think supporting or being in opposition of this new law that was obviously inspired by Shasta County one more time. I just don't think it sends the right message to our staff or to actually the citizens of Shasta County. And if you understood anything about mental health, people can function oftentimes young people, they go along fine in life and then they have their first episode as a 20 year old or a 25 year old of a breakdown and they develop symptoms of bipolar disorders, schizophrenia, so effective disorder. All these various issues that don't surface at a young point when they could have gotten a concealed wealth of print. You don't know where a person is mental. And how many times? So I just want to be clear, we're off on mental health. This bill is related to voter intimidation, and we didn't let the public get that far off task. All right. No, wait a second. This is tied directly to most of the shooters that we've had in schools have a mental health issue. Mental health is very much connected to this. I'm not arguing that it's- Okay, so I don't understand. Are you just denying to silence me, too? No. No. The- Hey, let's let's let let's supervise the record finish. Let's supervise the record finish. Let's supervise- That's your first warning. Let's supervise the record finish. All I'm saying, first of all, I'm going to say this letter is going to end up in the garbage can Sacramento. It doesn't really make a lot of difference. We're spending taxpayer dollars to discuss this. There really doesn't have any bearing on what the reality is going to be. The law is going to be passed, and I just want to make sure that the staff feels that they're supported. And if you knew anything about mental health, most of the people that commit these crimes, they have a mental health issue. So it's a long journey. It's a pleasure supervisor Garmin please finish. All right, thank you chairman cry. I will not be supporting this. I will not know. The reason being you cannot take a gun into a baseball game. You cannot take a gun into a football game. We have an election cycle that like supervisor Ricker said is going to be wild. It's going to be crazy. And we don't need guns in that room. We have deputies to protect us in that room. There's going to be crazy people in there. Possibly on both sides of the equation, right? And it is what it's about. It is what it's about. And I'm sorry, I just cannot support this. There's certain places guns should be and shouldn't be. Yeah, that's where it offices level it is. All we're talking about is sending a letter of opposition to a bill. I mean, this isn't, we're not voting on, hey, public, this is what you're going to do now. It's not what we're voting on. We're voting on, and what we're doing is, we're just using this as election fodder. But this is just about opposing a letter to the state. That's all it is. Supervisor Jones, and then let's take a vote. Yeah, let's take a vote. So again, supervisor Garmin, supervisor Virkard, you're not going to be able to stop anybody from coming in. And if you know anything about mental illness, you know that those people, you do. I know you're mental. I mean, you know a lot about men. Supervisor Jones, like that's not okay. Listen, everybody, we're just trying to get through the meeting. Supervisor Jones, it's not okay. I apologize, quiet please. I apologize for the remark, but do not tell me you're going to support the Second Amendment and then not vote for this. People come and go out of buildings that are criminals and this isn't going to stop that. It never has. Laws don't stop what happened to President Trump. Hey, Supervisor Jones, if you don't, I mean, I'm just going to, I'm just going to stop the convert, we're just going to take a vote. I don't mean to cut you off. I have my name up there. And I just cut Supervisor Jones off. So we're going to take the vote. We're going to move on. No, supervisor Kelsdram. Yes. Supervisor Krime. Yes. Supervisor Jones. Yes. And supervisor Garmin. No. All right, passes three, two. And what that is is we are approving a letter of opposition to assembly bill 2642. That's all that is. All right, moving on to the entry. Can I have, are you going to ignore my supervisor Rickard? Go ahead. I just, the only comment I say is that I think this is absolutely being used as election propaganda to use against me for the election. And I want to put that on the record. All right, R3. Receive a presentation from the Agricultural Commission, our sealer of weights and measures regarding the 2023 Shast Keness County crop and livestock report. John Ingram, welcome. Thank you for being patient. Absolutely. Traveling to the county building, right? From here. All the way across the river. Yeah. Now we get to talk about things I love. There we go. There we go. No worries. So, well, I'm going a speed things along. Good morning Chair Crive, members of the board, John Ingram, Agricultural Commissioner, Shasta County. I'm here today to present the 2023 Shasta County Crop and Livestock Report. I appreciate you guys giving us the time to highlight Shasta County agriculture and all of its greatness and everybody that participates in ag. I'm required by law specifically Food and Ag Code 227-9 to compile the annual crop report, which details the growth production of value Shasta County's agricultural commodities. This report summarizes the acreage production and gross value of all agricultural crops and livestock produced in Shasta County. All figures in this report represent gross returns only and do not reflect the net income of any county producers. This report is used as a resource for various research institutions, schools, banks, agencies and businesses. For example, the Farm Service Agency relies on this data when estimating the value of loss associated with agricultural commodities during a disaster declaration. I'm pleased to report that the 2023 gross value of Shasta County Agriculture Crops and Lifestyles totaled 92,705,000, which represents a $3.7 million increase, or nearly 4% over the 2022 growing season, which is a new record for Shasta County. Major commodities that increased in 2023 cattle with a 26.4% increase due to strong prices throughout the year, Walnuts with a 66.5 increase due to higher crop yields over the previous year, and nursery stock with an 83% increased due primarily to reported increases for price based off of strawberry nursery stock. Major crops that decreased in value for 2023 include hay, which was down roughly 20.1% due to substantial price decreases. APRE products decreased by 11.5% due to reported declines in queen production and high pollination services that were reported. In 2023, the top three highest individual crops of Shasta County in value was hay at 25,201,000, cattle at 23,957,000 and nursery stock at 9,644,000. This report also includes the total value of timber, valued at $30,994,590. Timber and forest products remain as a separate item at the state and national level. With that, national agricultural statistic services recommends that timber be excluded from the grand total of this crop report. Let's see here. International trade is a vital component of Shasta County's agricultural economy with strawberry nursery plants in Timber continuing to be lead as the commodities that are exported. In 2023, the Department issued 474 certificates for Shasta County and exported agriculture commodities to 20 different countries. A Federal Fido sanitary certificate is an accountable inspection certificate used to certified domestic plants and unprocessed or unmanufactured plant products for export. The purpose of the Federal Fido sanitary certificate is to certify that plants and plant products conform with the current Fido sanitary requirements of the respective importing country. The department also works with the animal and plant health inspection services to issue health certificates to apiaries for their outgoing shipments of Queen bees to Canada. Also included in this report were our efforts to eradicate control and manage pests and our actions related to the exclusion of pests or quarantines against pests and other agricultural activities. Pest exclusion activities represent a total of 589 premises visited to facilities including UPS air, UPS ground, FedEx, FedEx ground, as well as shipments entering the state through border inspection stations under quarantine. Last year, we inspected 13,000 for and 20 total individual shipments, resulting in 184 rejections and 319 pest interceptions, 63 of which were an a rated pest, whereas an a rated pest is a pest known of economic or environmental detriment, and is either not known to be established in California or it is present in a limited distribution that allows for the possibility of eradication. Our pest detection program included 1,234 traps placed and monitored from April to October for a Mediterranean fruit fly, Malone fruit fly, Oriental fruit fly, Spungy moth, Japanese beetle, glass of ink sharpshooter, European grapevine moth, and the caprobital. Pestier adication efforts for noxious weeds continued at 528 different sites, totaling 40,934 acres, targeting a wide variety of a rated weeds throughout the county. Last year, the Department has certified 35 local certified producers and nine certified farmers markets. We continue to monitor 21 organic farms, totaling 8,524 organic acres used for agricultural production throughout the county. Today's report is a brief snapshot in time representing the 2023 crop and livestock report for the approximately 40 commercial agricultural crops produced in Shasta County. The entire report may be accessed electronically on the Department of Agriculture's website no later than this afternoon. Lastly, I'd like to inform you on the commercial value of cannabis produced within Shasta County. While the cultivation of commercial cannabis is not legal in the unincorporated areas of Shasta County. The city of Reading and Shasta Lake allow indoor commercial production of cannabis. According to the statistics provided by the Department of Cannabis Control, the approximate wholesale value of this production is estimated at $29,918,000. Cannabis is not considered an agriculture crop in California. However, some counties include this information as part of their respective annual crop reports. I personally did not include this information in the official States and the United a great team at the Ag Department with several staff members taking on new roles, myself included, and I'm excited to see what the future of the Ag Department has in store. If anybody is interested in a hard copy of the 2023 Crop and Life Stock Report, you're welcome to stop by our office at 3179, the cellulane, sweet 210 here in Reading. Appreciate your guys this time and I'm open for questions. Thank you so much. Supervisor Kellstrom. Yeah, thanks John, great report. Absolutely, thank you. First one, you did a great job. Knocked it out of the park. Quick question on the placement of the fly traps or the trap side. A constituent reached out to me. He was a little upset. He's over off-Balls ferry on the outskirts of Anderson. like no one got my permission, no one talked to me, they had to go through two gates to get back there. I'm familiar with that story and we reached out to that landlord. Supposedly one of the property owners, a neighboring property owner, got the trapper, one of my county trappers got permission from that person. They said you could place it in the back. So my trapper was under the impression that that was their tree but come to find out it wasn't. Okay, I had a feeling that's what happened and so we called got the trap removed But absolutely and we get those calls from time to time that no people on vacation or whatever we hey We have door fliers and hang the door fliers say hey, we're placing a trap in your tree But then you know they get home like well, I don't like that trap in my trees So then we'll go out and remove it Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Is that another friend of mine said, she had one in her trees and she's like, no, they came knocking my door and I had to. Right, so and that's when I first got that call. It's like, wait a minute, because that's not our end. That's what they call the jump two fences and hang it in somebody's backyard. All right, thank you. We would have to jump fences if Kelschup goes out. He can just reach up in the tree. Mr. President Garmin. Thank you, Chairman Craig. John, you've done a well. You don't want to dwell on the job. I really appreciate you and your efforts. Beautiful report. I just have one question. These meetings get a little crazy. Am I going to have a bottle of wine? Yeah. A bottle of glass. You might want to go like a roller coaster events in our county. We have small acreage and it really fluctuates with yield and price depending on what they get. And a lot of our grape growers utilize their own grapes for their own production. So they're even reluctant to even give us any information because it's not a product that they sell, but I always let them know. It's like, obviously, if you're making wine, you'd be buying the grapes from somewhere. So those grapes that you grow do have value. But I mean, anything from pest and disease to too much water with a powdery mildew, you know, takes off. So that's probably would answer that question. It's just- But thank you. Well done. Yep. Thank you, Mr. Garment. Supervisor Jones. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair. John, very good report. Thank you. A couple questions. First, why do you think the four-forced products they're not at the state level calculated? That's a great question. I really don't know, because in the eyes of the Department of Pestside Regulation, right, any of those forsters that make applications at Forest Timberland is considered an ad commodity and they submit a pesticide use report. So we've always broke out our forest timberland as a separate number going back to Mary Fyfer and later, you know, I've been with the department for 16 years, that's how we've done it. And I've also asked that same question to my predecessors and surrounding ad commissioners. And if you look at surrounding counties, some counties actually add that number to their total. But we never have. And I didn't want to necessarily add it to my first thing, make it look like it's a stellar crop report because I added $30 million. That would have made you look really good. Yeah, I know, right? It's like, whoa, look at this, big jump. But we've always broken out and separated it. So it is there so people can compile that. But that is a future thought for myself included included to reach out to maybe in the state's statistics service to see, you know, have them weigh in. It's one of those things, you know, it's how we've always done it, but is it accurate and is it right? And that's a really good question to see. And again, you know, every county is doing it a little bit different and that's the other challenge. The other question I had and I recognize why you put the supplemental slip in here with regards to cannabis. But in the past, we have gotten some numbers for what's illegal. And you didn't supply us with that. It's an estimated number. I think that number is down. How did they estimate it in the past and why are you not? That's a good question. I don't recall us estimating the illegal numbers in the past and why are you not? That's a good question. I don't recall us estimating the illegal numbers in the past, because there's no matrix in my office, because we go strictly through the Department of Cannabis Control, and that is all legal process marijuana, and it's grown commercially. There are no, I have personally have not seen any numbers come through my office recording the illegal side of marijuana in Chester County. Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, supervisor John, supervisor Rickerley. Yes, thank you, John. You're welcome. And I'm really enjoying all the pictures. And I know we're a lot of them, we're taking it. So anyway, so on the timber production, do you know how much was salvaged timber? Do you ever break that out? So unfortunately, going back to the 10 or 15 years ago, when I first started doing the crop report, they used to break that number out, and there was actually two separate reports I could get from the timber tax board. And now as with life, right, everything, it's more work and it takes time. And now the timber tax board number is strictly like a lumped number, so unfortunately, they do not break that out for me. And as far as the, I mean, because it was a significant number. That was drastically. That was drastically. I think that was due to the fire co-logs that they had prior to. Right. And then now that they're back to buying lumber from probably. And refresh my memory, but seems to me lumber prices have been very, very up and down, very, very inconsistent in the last years, too. So that's, that's another question. On the irrigate pasture from 22 to 23,000 in last year was 28,000. I'm assuming a lot of that has to do with ACID. Yes, that's our figure. That was the ID reduction and back in business. I had a couple other questions. Well, I just wanted to make a comment. We really, people may think that we're really in a organic county, but what about 7,500 acres that are certified organic land is ours. So, detect that. So, if you can, there's actually about 1,000 acres of other than most of ours is rich land. And we raise organic wild rice for the Lumberg. So, I just wanted to bring that. But anyway, as usual, this is really interesting and I just want to comment is farming is we're having a tough year. I see I've got a farmer here from Fowler River Valley. And anyway, so it's been a tough year and we're going to see next year prices, especially hay prices. I'm going to be great when it's diminished. And I'm hoping that we can at least break even for these people think of farmers and ranchers of having lots of extra money and it's just falling out of our pockets. But it's a struggle, the inputs and the cost to produce the product continues to escalate and the product itself is actually the price for the commodities actually decreasing. So I just want to at least give the farmers a thank you and a shout out out there for all that they do. Thank you. John, thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. Moving on to our four form and ad hoc committee to create and recommend an opioid litigation settlement funding plan to board. This is something that isn't sponsored by myself because we talked about it as a group to bring it back. Before we get to public comment, I just want to make sure everybody understands where I am. I personally am not going to support an ad hoc committee. I think all of us, what I would like to do is I'm going to bring this back. I won't say every meeting, our next meeting is October 1st. I know there's been some discussion that there aren't enough items for an August. I'm sorry, October 8th meeting, is that correct? Ms. Blankenship, I heard that today that we might move October 8th and just not cancel that. Want to move it to the 15th. Currently there are less than 5 items on that agenda. So usually when there's less than 5 items on the agenda as the clerk of the board I usually advise or of you of that item. And then it would be. So what I would say is I don't think we need to talk about this specific thing in a week. But that would give this board time to go out, meet with different organizations. I know Supervisor Jones in his report met with Christine Akage at no boundaries. Supervisor Keltram accompanied, correct, you want to go in yesterday. Originally, I was going to go to that meeting, but I bailed out of it. Supervisor Keltram went instead. So I think what would be best, and I don't know, Supervisor Garmin, Supervisor Rickard, you guys could work together. One thing I've learned is we can't, this is a weird deal as it relates to my original motion of wanting to see if we can do an ad hoc committee and have the Supervisor-Alex part of that. We can't do that. So what's weird is we're a board of five, but Supervisor Plumber would be considered part of that. So we're still a Board of five and we still can't only have an ad hoc committee with two people. So it's weird that we have to include them in our numbers, but we can't include them in the total number of board members. So my original idea of having people that are going to be here next year that aren't here now to have some continuity is not going to happen. And I don't blame supervisor Garmin, Jones, or possibly supervisor Ricker wanting to have a say in this because they are supervisors until the end of the year two are going to be leaving one mayor may not. And so I think what we need to do is we just need to bring this back and we all bring ideas up and we have this discussion in three weeks. And here's all the different items that each of us have bringing forward as an idea of where to go with this money. Supervisor Rickard. I think we need to move forward with it. This is, you know, time is of the essence and I think this is another situation of just kicking the can down the road. We have this money in place and I worked on it from the very beginning with Jim Ross. And I have been working with the Shasta Substance Use Coalition and got the $300,000 so that they could continue their work when they needed some gap funding. So I think we need to work on this, we need to step up and start working on this right away. So that's my opinion. Okay, I agree. So here's what I'm saying is, and I've said this so many times over the 20 months we've served together, bring an idea forward and let's vote on it. Bring your ideas for how we spend $39 million over the next 15 years, and let's vote on it. It's not kicking the can at all. It's saying, hey, instead of two people being on an ad hoc and the other three just saying, hey, they're going to have all the meetings, I'm saying there's empires, visions of the cross, there's all the different entities with the ad home, there's no boundaries, there's the pallet shop. There's a million different avenues to go. I'm saying we all should actively work on this and all be accountable to the public to bring ideas and solutions back. It's the exact opposite, Supervisor Garmin. No, you're in queue. Yeah, I was in queue, but she made one of the responses. No, what I'm saying is we need, if we get two supervisors focused on this and then we, you know, bring the stakeholders forward. The sooner we get involved talking to Empire, you know, right and Victor's services. I mean, I've worked with all of them over the years. You mentioned the ones I listed. What are the other ones that I didn't list? What do you mean? What are the other answers? There worked with all of them over the years. You mentioned the ones I listed. Where are the other ones that I didn't list? What do you mean? What are the other answers? There's all kinds of them. Name a couple. I'll top of my head. I can't think because you're putting me on this spot. Of course. But. Well, I'm just going to. No, there's. They're the ones that are kind of leaves. I want to talk to Shark about it. Right. All kinds of things. And that's what I want. I mean, you're arguing with the fact that I'm saying all five of us bring solutions and let's sit up here. If you have the idea, I'm going to support your idea. I don't want this to be some divided board. We're talking $39 million that will move the needle. Can move the needle in people's lives, let's do that and not have two people on it. I mean, I'm doing this supervisor rickert because of yourself. I want to include you. I want to include everybody in bringing solutions forward. supervisor garment. Thank you chairman. I think that supervisor rickert, if you look at an ad hoc committee, by time something would come back. Well, for instance, when we did the one for the tourism, Kelsa and I were even showed up at the first meeting we had. So it's like, this could take a long time to come back. It could take longer than the three weeks. But I kind of like the idea of we can each go out and bring back our ideas. But by do you have a question for staff on it, is that going to delay? Would it be faster with an ad hoc? I do think we need to get this in play and move it along. It's the five of us. But if it's not going to take any longer, then let's all five. Yeah, it's long as we can discuss all five at that time and then move forward without a delay. Absolutely. And that's what I want. Nobody wants a delay. Because what I don't want is I don't want you to fill sidelined. I don't want to, I don't want supervisor Rickard or supervisor Kelsam to fill sidelined. We sit on the ad home committee thing, but quite honestly, I think all of us should do that work and bring our ideas forward. And if anybody in here wants to meet about that, they should email each of us. And we can have that. That way it's not deferred to the committee. Can I ask staff what the timeline would look either way with ad hoc or coming back to three weeks? Thank you. Supervisor Garmin, Anne Brutan, deputy CEO. So this wouldn't extend the time that it would take to implement it versus an ad hoc committee, because the ad hoc committee would need to meet. And then if they had some ideas, they would have to bring it back to this board for approval. So the implementation wouldn't happen until it came back to the board for approval anyway. So three weeks we could go back with all five of our ideas we could hash it out. And it doesn't make any vote on it. Or at that point. Correct. And all of the decisions don't have to be made in three weeks. I mean there are additional settlements that are coming. There's additional cases that are going to be filed. And so all the decisions don't have to be made in three weeks. You guys could decide on a couple of things that you wanted to move forward on and staff could work on those. But with or without an ad hoc committee, the board would need to take action in order to make those things happen. Okay. Yeah, and the other thing supervisor Garmin is like, I can just tell you right now in three weeks, I'm not going to be ready to vote on what to do with that. I'm just saying, I think we bring it back to engagement. Well, I'd like to be in three weeks. Just maybe this board comes up with the main topics to this staff to start putting together the will vote. So what I'll do is instead of it being on our board report, I'm going to agenda is it, and's the 35 people I met with, it's like, hey, this is what I mean, I'm spending a lot of time with SCOE and other organizations, because I believe we have to put a lot of focus into two things, infrastructure, like physical buildings that we can point to that will still have for years, but then two, children and kids, and the preventative approach. Supervisor Rickard? Yes, one of my concerns that I was wanting to express was that if all five of us are running around, and I've already talked to, for instance, the chemical people and the Katie Cassidy, our public health director, and I've talked to mental health, well, Miguel's gone now, but I've talked to that, I've talked to Bailey about it. So if all five of us are running to all the same people, that's going to suck up a whole lot of time. And that's why I think it's important if you had an ad hoc committee, you had just two supervisors making those contacts. Make a motion. Well, I- You know- Make a motion. I would like to, that's what it was on here is to form an ad hoc committee and I would like to follow through with, I guess it was your idea originally. But because it wasn't my, I didn't put this on the agenda. The fact of the matter is that I don't want us to be sucking up a lot of time from staff, cost money for them and them to have to answer the same question five times over. If you had an ad hoc committee, it seems more efficient and better use of our taxpayer dollars to just have two on that committee. And if you have something that you're concerned about, either contact, say Tim Garmin and Mr. Jones are on it. Well, then you go to them and say, I need this answer. Disquestion, answer. That's a Brown Act violation. Okay. Well, that's the Brown Act. That's why I'm saying we shouldn't do that. So the issue is I brought this up to put on the agenda because I wanted to work with Alan Long or Matt Plummer, supervisor-elect Plummer, supervisor-elect Long because I wanted some of that continuity. And I didn't care if it was Keltstrom or myself. You brought up a great point about your background and everything else. So I didn't want you to fill silent, which I don't, same with Tim, same with Supervisor Jones, Supervisor Kelschrom. So I'm sorry if, you know, it's a demand on all of our time. I'm gonna spend that time and I'm saying in three weeks, bring solutions forward of the meetings you've had and let's move forward. So at this time, I'm going to say there is no motion for R4 unless I hear one from supervisor record. I'd like to make a motion that we form an ad hoc committee to create and recommend an opioid litigation settlement funding plan to the board. Okay. Is there a second? First of all, should have their name, two names, correct? Thank you. But no, I think it's just to form. Well, who's the ad hoc? It says form the ad hoc committee, okay. Who's on it? All right. Well, I would like to be on it and Supervisor Garmin could be on it because he's shown some interest in that subject previously. Is there a second? I'll stock it up for discussion. Okay, so the point with this is all five people. You guys can do the ad hoc committee together. You guys work together. Supervisor Jones and Keltzerm are already working together. So we have a motion, but I'm just saying that I've been working on it for years. What have you brought forward? All right, let's just take the vote. Supervisor Jones, you're in. You didn't let me answer the question. Go ahead. And first before we take a vote, do we have public speakers to this? Yes, we do have public comment. But I will say this. With my eight years at City Hall and then almost four years here, and worked with a lot of different organizations over the years. And for a lot of us, we should have some pretty good ideas of what's been working, what's not working. We now finally have a money stream to continue the efforts of the groups that have been known to work and duplicate that. And so, Chair, in probably three weeks, I will come forward with a specific plan. And so I'm not supportive of an ad hoc. I think we can move much quicker on our own. Well, in the end of the day, what the ad hoc committee is, it's really, when an ad hoc committee is formed, at least in my time, it's really the board saying, hey, you to go work on this, bring it back, tell us what you find. And I'm saying with $39 million and the difference it can make and the conversations I've had with the sheriff and with Scowy and what I believe is a path forward, I'm not, I mean, I'm very opinionated, just like you supervise a record about mental health and how you feel. You're very opinionated. I'm saying all five of us need to bring ideas forward and not just kick at the two people. because I don't care if you guys work together or not. We all have to bring something forward. I'm saying in three weeks, it'll be agendas, come what they plan, not with meetings we have. Supervisor Garmin. Thank you. Supervisor Rick, just for the record, I'm not gonna support it. And I'll do a wee smack. You bring up some very, very valid points about staff time and staff resources. And I'm honored that you included me on that because on this board you know more about mental health and all the rest of us put together. But the reason I, one of the reasons I'm not going to support is I'd like to also hear from Supervisor-Elect long, Supervisor-Elect plumbers. They're going to be coming on. A lot of these dollars are going to be spent after I'm long gone and Jones is long gone. But they're going to be very active in how this is money spent. So they give them an opportunity at public comment to come up and express their concerns. I encourage both of them if they're listening or they're here to spend the next three weeks and getting some information and presenting at least three or three minutes hopefully a public comment time. That way we can fully understand what they're looking for as well. And hopefully when we present something to staff and they start to look into it, they can encompass all of that and come back with the best plan for today and for the future. Well, is it okay? Because I have had several conversations with a supervisor elect plumber in regards to this a matter of fact we talked last week again about it. And so, and he does, on occasion, attend the mental health alcohol and drug advisory board meetings. And so he does seem to have a vested interest in what's going on here. So is that allowable for me to continue to have those discussions with him? You can, you just wouldn't be able to have it with a third. Is that Councilor Larmer? Is that correct? Because when we talked about the Brown Act issue of the supervisors elect, that's that they have. So we really can't, we can talk to one other board member and that would include. Yeah, so ultimately the- Please, please keep legal advice from the crowd down so we can actually have the professional give it. The area- That's your second warning. Go ahead, you have them. So ultimately the Brown Act treats a supervisor elect for some purposes as if they're already serving on the board. It's an extremely gray area. But ultimately, if the board has meetings with them, they have to treat them in the same way. They would another board member as far as daisy chains are spoken wheel for Brown Act purposes. So, you can have conversations with them. You have to be careful not to report what another supervisor has reported to you so that you don't create those brown act issues. Yeah, and I fully agree, supervisor, that's why. Well, I just wanted to disclose and make it go on the record that I have had extensive discussions with Mr. Plummer about opioid prop 1 funding, et cetera. So we talk about that regularly. So a conversation between you and one supervisor so long as it's not reported to another, what you guys discussed or your positions is totally fine. Now, Council, when it comes to three weeks, we come back with all these ideas. At that point in time, so it'll be an agenda, we can discuss at that point, correct? Yes, so we can discuss what we may have talked about with Supervisor Elex as well. So in an agenda section, you could if that's what they desired for you to do. Okay, so we can at least get the right idea. And the idea, yeah, and the idea would be out of that three weeks, we start pairing it down and then maybe by late October or Thanksgiving, we actually have our first tranche of what we're looking to move towards. Okay, since it's a no vote item, Supervisor Rickard, Garmin, you're pulling your second so there is no vote, correct? Yeah, I'll just, I'll just, I think's pulling her motion, so it's a no vote item. So we will move to R5. So, do we take public comment, though? So you need to vote this up or down. And then if you're- So we'll take public comment. You can agenda, is it in a different way on a different agenda? Okay. different way on a different agenda. Okay, so we'll take public comment and then, well, I'll make the motion that we bring this back the middle in two meetings from today, which would be the middle of October. That's my motion. Also. All right, so we have it, a motion by myself, seconded by supervisor Kelschum, to bring this back as a topic about opioid litigation, settlement funding plan, no ad hoc. Is that pretty clear, Ish? Councilor Lamar? Yes, okay. All those in favour? Aye. Opposed? I'm going to say no. This will be the third time we're bringing this back and this, again, is not efficient government. I just want to make that point. Okay, so you're saying to have the discussion publicly. So your solution is to have this not public and then pass the $39 million without any public. Chair Kri, you're putting words in my mouth. Well, help understand. We'll do that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I just want the public to understand. This is about you guys all emailing us about your solutions for the opioid money and how it could best impact our county. Don Duckett, and then we'll take, we have to take that vote after public comment, right Stephanie? I jumped the gun, we didn't take public comment first. So that is correct. We'll take that after. So Dawn, two minutes. Dolores, Susan, Rose. Is there a Rose here? Here. Okay. Perfect. Yes. Morning Board. You know, as an alternative to both of the ideas, I'd like to suggest that maybe an ad hoc committee with supervisors, Kellstrom and Rickert. And then every three weeks or so, the board puts it on the agenda so that individual board members can forward assignments to that committee. And do that in the public eye. And that would avoid the chaos of five different supervisors taking up staff time. And it would also incorporate the public and you would be doing that in an open transparent way. That's just my two cents, thank you. Thank you. Dolores, followed by Susan. Please get in queue, followed by Rose, followed by Jenny. Where should I start from? You all three of you are embarrassing to our county. You're disgusting how you treat Mary. Arthor. Especially Patrick Jones. Arthor, yeah. I'm talking about Arthor. The only reason you want to kick the can down the road is because you don't want Mary on there. And yet, this is supposed to be something that you're supposed to move forward. And it's regarding opio, right? It's a drug that kills people. So in other words, you want to delay that. But again, you're supporting Korki. Or for. Korki, who actually does somebody died regarding opio. It is for it. It has nothing to do with it. And it does. It's a drug. It has nothing to do with it. It does. It's a drug. It kills people. So that's why you don't want Mary on it. Because you don't like her. You don't want her. You want to stall into maybe to November. You're hoping she loses. But the way you treat her, she's going to win. Because you know what? God makes people like you accountable. How dare you use God's name and name. He's not gonna allow that. This is why you're gonna lose in so many ways. You don't see it coming. Or for. It is. You're probably. Don't talk to me like that. How dare you? Who do you think you are? You might treat people like that. You could do it all you want. I don't care people looking at me thinking I'm going beyond what, how I treat you and how I talk to you. That prevents me from running or getting elected. I don't care because nobody's going to be standing here and allow that bullshit how you treat Mary. How dare you? You didn't even censor him. R4. Yeah, it is R4. Yeah, it is R4. That's how you're not to repeat yourself then. That's why you make the same mistakes. How dare you postpone this? What? I thought you didn't care about people. The drugs, mental illness, people, huh? But you don't. It's all punish, trying to punish Mary. Susan, followed by Rose, followed by Jenny. Thank you. I know Kevin that you're very interested in helping what, finding a good way to get this money spent. I do believe you're there. I am concerned though. I've spent two years studying with a group of people in my home. All the different agencies you're talking about. I've been in the continuum of care meeting. I've gone to the ad home meetings. I feel, as I've said this before in public, very educated on at least what agencies are out there and what they're doing. And I have all the data to show you. I am concerned though, because I'd like for the board to find a way to truly get the public involved in this, not just go back and each of you do your assignments. That's going to take us forever. In 2016, Kristin Schrader at the city did a huge and you can see it online of getting input from business leaders, from police, from continuum of care, from all these different agencies that live here. And it's a wonderful presentation. They told what had to be done, but nothing's been done. Now, I mean, I can't say nothing's been done, but that's not true. It just made the point. No, no. But all I'm saying is we're hearing again that there's lots of agencies doing wonderful jobs. And there are. That's the truth. What I took to the to the city a year ago is we need a czar for the homeless situation. Now, a czar is not the correct word, but we need a leader who can oversee all this. It can't be just you guys going out and other people going out. Even if we put in there's so much money, we could put a contract contract we could contract someone to do this it wouldn't have to be forever but if we find it's effective let's have a homeless homeless meeting I want to be on this committee so I want to give input I want to work on this with you so open it up to the community in a different way than all of you just Susan the best thing is when we sat down last week for over an hour That's how you get it done making appointment with everybody up here share with them what you shared with me supervisor Garmin Thank you chairman cry Susan. That's just what I was gonna say feel free to reach out You can definitely I would definitely welcome your input and even take you to some meetings if that would help It's got to think it's important to include the public. Rose, Jenny, Benjamin, and Moe. I don't see Moe. Hello board, this is my first time to speak before you. Rose, Benelope, I'm a resident of Chesa County. I'm also a candidate for Congress in District 1. I would like to say thank you first of all to Benjamin O'Wayne for his North State breakdown which allowed me to know what the agenda is. We got a statement to R4. Yes, indeed, indeed, it was R4 that brought me here. And I truly support and thank Mary for the work that you've done for the county and especially for the mental health issues and your, the groundwork that you've done in terms of how the opioid settlement funds is going to be spent. I think that we need to identify who are the stakeholders in our community and make sure that all the stakeholders get to express much like what Susan said, her feedback and what is valuable to all of the stakeholders. I would also call for transparency in the process of how the funds are going to be spent. I would like to call for clear financial disclosures so that all residents of Shesak County know that there is accountability and transparency and that indeed the stakeholder interests are made a paramount in this process. And so with that, I want to thank again Mary Tim for being responsible members of the Board of Supervisors. Thank you. Jenny, Benjamin Moe. Morning again, beautiful board and Patrick. In this, I can see actually both points of view in this one, on the fact that the ad hoc committee prevents people from going retracing steps and wasting time, but I also really like your idea of it being really open and processed where everybody has their input. So I'm almost curious if there's some kind of in between where there's like where you guys maybe vote on like up here who you'll study, like who you'll go to, who you'll talk just so that there's no overlap. So that like problem itself up here, like right now. So be like, all right, well I want to talk to at home and I want to talk to, you know, and then I'll talk to the mental health board in shark and that that way there's no overlap and there's no waste of time and money or effort. And in that way, it's sort of like both of you are right in that scenario where you all five of you come up with your solutions, but at the same time there's no like coming running in circles. Like that was just my idea, but thank you. Thank you. Benjamin, then I don't see Mo so this will be our last speaker. Then we'll bring it back. So Shasta County secured a $38 million settlement largely in thanks to Supervisor Mayor Rickard's dedicated efforts. Yet Kevin Cry and others on the board are attempting to block her from overseeing how this money is spent because it looks like an effort to disregard the credit she deserves. So we cease through this charade. You can say that the board isn't divided, but it's obvious. Three of you are the very source of that division. Driving wedges into our leadership and community, it's also clear you don't understand your job. You fumbled with the ad hoc committee suggestion because you don't grasp the basics of governance. Now we have to waste even more time and resources. To make matters worse, Kevin, you spent five minutes speaking off topic and county council stayed silent. The selective enforcement of rules is raising serious questions about the fairness of this board. R4. This is nothing more than employed to manipulate public perception and create a mirage of transparency and oversight. Watch closely where this money goes. And when the same three members make yet another controversial decision, their crony is an abuse of power, must end. We deserve leaders with integrity, leaders, like Mary Rickard. All right. Bring it back. So we have, some of you guys have Ricker pulled her motion and Gizountite. And again, I would, I don't think we have to beat it up anymore, but the one thing I've heard people mention a lot about staff time and realistically the amount of time isn't going to be staff. It's going to be spent and I'll say this, I know, and I'll put on the spot, our auditor controller, know the short historically. Supervisors do not visit that office nearly enough. And there was a nod, so know the off camera there was a nod, so. But the reality is that's really who they have to spend the time with, and she is an open door when it comes to the numbers. We have to spend time, I believe, with all the outside agencies. So that's the time that's going to be spent. It's not going to be a bunch of staff time. Staff time will pick up once this board, as an elected body, decides which direction to move. So that's what that is. So okay, the vote I guess would be we're going to miss blanking ship. Go ahead. Oh, I'm sorry, I saw you light up, but that was in the microphone. So we're going to just bring this back on October 16th. So I guess we have to make a vote. Just we just vote no on an ad hoc and then we just bring it back. Okay, so I make a motion that we do not form an ad hoc. Second, all right, all those in favor? Aye. Opposed? All right, four to one passes. And then staff will bring that back, I think it's the 15th or the 16th. And again, for public watching everybody else, everybody, supervisors, bring something forth, bring a solution, bring something forth. All right, R5, speak of, I won't say the double, speak of the individual, no short, welcome. And we're gonna get an update about the RFP process, 25-03 for tourism. Take it away. Okay, thank you. Move that down if you want. The point now. Good. Okay. Good morning, Chair Crime, members of the board, and all the short auditor controller. Thank you for allowing me to be here today to talk about the RFP process. One of the difficulties in being involved in this process is that as I'm going through it, if I have concerns or questions, I can't contact the board members because of the Brown Act violations. And so it prevents us from having this two-way conversation. So if it's something simple, like, you know, when we had the TOT talk originally and what the TOT tax was and what it's for, I can just broadcast an email to all five board members just sharing information, but if it looks like it's going to present any two-week conversation and you guys have questions for me, then the board, you know, this setting is presumably the most appropriate location for that. So I would like to say that, you know, there's nothing wrong with RIP, there's nothing illegal about the RIP, so the RIP is fine. But as I went through the RIP in my role as an auditor, which was a kind of a unique situation for us because they don't end up on a lot of RFPs. There were some things that caused me some concern. And so I just want to share those with the board. And then you can do whatever you want with that information and I do respect that the decision is ultimately yours and you'll make that decision on behalf of Shasta County. And so as I go through it, I start asking myself questions because I'm an auditor and we tend to overthink things. So can TOT dollars legally be spent on tourism and marketing they can? Will there be a public benefit from a marketing contract there will be? And so then I start asking myself, are we promoting or advertising in the unincorporated areas of the county? And we're not exclusively doing that, but we're indirectly doing that. And then I start saying, well, we benefit from this. How long will it take us for us to recover these dollars? Where will the tax dollars go from what we're doing? And because we're, as I started reading to the RPs, a lot of it was promoting events in the city of writing. And really making that like a tourist destination where we have a lot of events. It promoted things like Mount Shasta, Trinity Alps, and as I'm looking at this I'm going, how is Shasta County going to get the money back that we're spending? Where is it going to come back to Shasta County as the entity because that's what I'm responsible for is the fiscal soundness of Shasta County. And so I was struggling with that as I'm reading through that because I'm envisioning the tax dollars. So what we're talking about is TOT dollars, which are going to go to whoever, wherever that lodging facility resides, that's the entity that's going to get the money for that. And then sales tax dollars and wherever those sales takes place, wherever people eat, play, stay. That's where the sales tax dollars are going to go. And so I'm imagining like what we have in the unincorporated areas and because a lot of them are really promoting and it's not just Chasahe County is promoting all of the North State, which I think is good. I started asking myself why are the people that are going to benefit from this the most like the city of writing or even the city of Anderson city of Chasahe County or other counties not participating in this venture with us. Why are they not sharing in the cost in Chasda County? We're looking to spend a lot of money and part of my concern is that this is one of our discretionary revenue streams. And TOT has meant to kind of offset the infrastructure of having tourists here. So some people refer to it as the tourism tax. So why are we not spending it on tourism, but it's a transient occupancy tax. It's meant for people who visit our community and use of our resources, whether it be police resources, fire resources, or other resources while they're here, it's an opportunity for us to recover those and put that back into Shasta County. And so when I look at discretionary revenue, public safety is a big place where we spend a lot of that. And so I kind of go, are we going to be able to backfill public safety? Are we going to get our money back? And so I just, I struggled with it quite a bit as I was looking through that. And so I, you know, is it going to be an ongoing, are we going to spend it every year? And then, or is it going to take significant development in the unincorporated areas forever to ever get this money back. So I did put together what Shastik County gets as far as TOT and sales tax. So I did, I took this right out of their act first online, which is their financial statements online. And because we're always reporting a year later, this is the most current data that I have. But we get all the TOT that comes to Shasta County, we get about 16.4% and of all the sales tax that happen in Shasta County, we get about 13%. And so, but the interesting thing is some people are, they want numbers. Well, how much do you think we're gonna get? And so I don't have an answer for that. We could spend a million dollars in the marketing campaign, and then the people that are gonna benefit, we could get zero. It's going to depend on where they stay, where they play, where they eat. And I do think our fees did a really great job of, and I haven't been through all of them yet, but they did a really great job of advertising like skiing, biking, hiking, all the amazing resources that we have in Chastwick County. And those happen largely in the unincorporated areas, but unfortunately they don't really have any revenue stream with them. So people are going to stay in writing and go do all of those things. And so I just wanted to share that information with the board, make sure that you have it as you're making your decisions going forward. I'll happily go back and participate in the RFP process if you still want me to participate in that, but I just felt like I couldn't move forward until I shared that information with the board. Yeah, and at a transparency, Nolda reached out to me about being on it and some of her conflicts, and I appreciate you bringing it forward and doing it in this matter. And I still have a lot to say, I'm going to supervise your garment and thank you, supervise your garment initially for leading this. Go ahead. Thank you, Chairman Cricht. No, thank you for your concerns and sharing all the information there. I still feel comfortable with you being on the panel personally. I think you're the right person because you're going to look at it objectively. You're going to look at the whole picture and I think it's a good balance. I think you're a good person for it. I mean, I know there's a lot of discussion. I'm sorry, I know there's a lot of discussion. We talk about other outlets highlighting us in the New York or the LA Times on September 10th of this year did a huge story and it says this under the radar city is the hiking trails capital of California. And it says in the very first line, Reading doesn't get talked about much as a travel destination. That's because what makes Reading worth the trip is everything else that surrounds Reading. I mean, if that isn't the most, I mean, you couldn't almost even pay for that statement to support the effort. Because what we have here is City of Reading puts money in. And, Miss short, if you want to sit down, I don't want to make you stand there. This is, I know just the discussion, but it's like Mickey Mouse doesn't, doesn't, you know, isn't the lead for Disneyland, Disneyland promotes Mickey Mouse. Or Magic Johnson doesn't promote the Lakers, the Lakers promote Magic Johnson. And it's so backwards because economic growth doesn't happen without marketing. And Shasta County should lead the region. I mean, Shasta County should lead it. So what is that number? And I know that's part of the RFP process. I will say Supervisor Garmin, I'm really leaning towards a much lower number than originally anticipated for me. But it's got to be sustained. I don't think it can be something where it's a large number. I mean, if we're going to do it, we have to do it. We have to say this is going to be a three year commitment year over year. I think when that comes back to us and we actually talk with us later, because Supervisor Kelschmann and I both kind of went over all those RFPs that came through, I have a talk with Supervisor Kelsger, I have my thoughts and all that, I'm sure he does as well, so we'll have that opportunity to share. And this is where I think the ad hoc is perfect, because you guys doing that work together, looking at these and bringing people forward, I think is important. Supervisor Kelsger, Kelsger. Yeah, I was actually thinking of much lower number two. I mean, I'd say I think we already have some areas out there. The Chesaquese, Wonderland, and we have the Chamber of Commerce for writing and the other Chamber of Commerce is now. Chesa County Chamber of Commerce is great. They're trying to promote the things that are outside writing, but as no-dose numbers just showed there, if we promote somebody to come up and fish fall river, you know, world class trouts for him. Well, if they stay in writing, then writing gets that TOT tax. If they buy their luncheon writing before they head up the road, we're advertising to get them up there. But then writing is getting our dollars or some other entity. So that's the problem. That's how do we get our money back. We want the people here. We want the people here, we want the tourists here, tourist dollars are some of the best dollars you can get in your economy, because they come in, they spend their money, they buy their lunch, they stay in the hotel, they rent a car, they do all that stuff, and then they don't impact your services as drastically as somebody here. Their kids aren't going to our schools, they're not driving big trucks on our road, usually calling the fire and police and whatnot. So yeah, Nolas, great numbers and that's kind of, that was one of my worries too, is what are we gonna get back for spending this money? So. And some of that's not gonna be quantifiable. It's gonna be, yeah, so I think it's great. So there is no vote. This is just a receiving the update. Is that correct? Miss Blinken? Chair, this is a voteable item. So what is the motion? I mean, we received it. I'll make a motion to keep an eye on the panel. Okay. I'll second. Yeah, perfect. So we do have some public comment. Dave Halligan, Don Ducke, Dolores, and Benjamin. If you could please get in queue, that would be great. And we'll stick to two minutes. Welcome. Good afternoon. Nolder, that was a great report you just gave. How do we get the money back? How do we track this? We could spend a million dollars and we don't even know it could be zero. Back when the RFP came out 725, I spoke 730 at the Board of Supervisor Meeting and I was against this. I still am against spending this money. August 12th, I sent an email to all the supervisors telling them to take a look at the 20 sites I provided to you that is all about Shasta County and what you can do up here. I send it to Mr. Kelser, Mr. Garmin. You both got, you're both committee members here. I didn't get a response, I didn't get a comment. Kevin's asking to send this stuff into you guys. I didn't hear from anybody. Back at the July Board of Supervisor Meeting, Mr. Kri suggested that CEO Ricker be part of the travel RFP committee. CEO Ricker stated he could not do that. He had a conflict of interest and went to events with a vendor that was possibly bidding on the RFP. The right thing to do, CEO Ricker, the right thing to do. Good job. Now it's your turn, Mr. Crive. One of the bitters is the Shasta County Chamber of Commerce led by your friend, your campaign manager, Nigel Skeet. Is this going to be a cronism case? A reward for all that Mr. Skeet has done for you? Kevin, you need to recuse yourself here, just like CEO record did. The RFP required everybody to bid three bids, $250,500 in a million dollars. This money was gonna come out of General Fund, $57 cents of every dollar General Fund goes to the police protection. Again, who's calling Sheriff Johnson insane on the $250,000? You got to cut two officers, four officers on the $500,000, seven officers on the million dollars. You need to kick this thing down the road all the way down the road and cancel this RFP. Thank you. Dawn. Dolores Benjamin. Morning board. I am in full support of Nolta remaining on the committee. She's a proven fiscal conservative and we need that voice at the table. And looking at those numbers, I mean you'd really have to almost double your TOT to pay for this project. And I'd like to encourage the board to think about not deluding the really robust marketing campaigns that we already have, such as visit, reading, choose, reading. And perhaps look at ways to generate TOT, and ways to generate sales tax with infrastructures and supporting projects in the unincorporated area, like a wine village with accommodations and things like that that would actually guarantee TOT and sales tax coming into the county. But the marketing scheme is really in my mind you're gambling with my taxpayer money. Thank you Loris Kevin cry Kevin Cry? Yes, laugh, you think it's a joke, but you are the joke. You need to recuse yourself. You have a conflict of interest because you are a member of the Shasta County Chamber of Commerce. You are a member with your business, Ninja Coalition. You need to recuse yourself and it is the prohibit law, which means the criminal. So you need to remove yourself while people are even talking about it or even having a discussion. And then on top of that, I think you take some time off to help Mr. Niles to put this just the county Chamber of Commerce. Aren't you the silent partner who put in money involved in this? Don't you think that's criminal? And now you want to make profit off of the people, making money, trying to give him the money to start this off. You guys want to do it? What happened to you, Chris? What happened to your backbone? R5. You don't have a backbone to speak up. You just follow whatever Patrick says. What can you do? It's right. You don't have any morals. You don't have a voice. How can you have a voice for the people when you can't even stand up to say this as a conflict of interest? You know what's going on behind closed doors or behind the scenes. You know what Kevin's cry is doing. Why don't you have the backbone? Damn. It's elder abuse when you guys abuse the people. Elder abuse is a crime. California, pinocled 368. It's a crime when you abuse the financial, all the financial of the citizens. You think it's funny but it's okay. You look like a fool because you know what? We all know the laws that you're breaking. You need to recuse yourself before you commit another crime. But go ahead and vote. I'd love to see you vote. All right, so. Benjamin. So once again we're witnessing another instance of potential cronism led by Kevin Cry as it relates to the Tourism Initiative. The Shasta County Chamber of Commerce is one of the primary contenders for receiving county funding and it's becoming clear that you, Mr. Cry, are potentially doing everything you can to funnel money to Nigel Skeet, a business associate and personal contact. It's unethical and you're attempting to do it in broad daylight. At the very least you should recuse yourself from any discussion or decision making when Skeet's name comes up in these proceedings. You need to seriously reflect on your role in government and recognize that people are watching. We see what you're doing, that people are informed and they will not sit idly by while you abuse your position. And let me remind you that in your campaign, as well as those as Patrick and Chris relied heavily on the promise of improving public safety, with the jail being central to that of that goal. But where is that promise now? You abandoned it citing budget issues. There was a plan in the table that would have secured substantial funding for the jail. Our five was discarded. And favor a hastily conceived alternative failed. Now with no real plan to ensure the safety of our citizens, you're returning our attention to promoting tourism, but ask yourself this. Why should we be investing in attracting visitors when we can't even ensure the safety once they arrive? You put tourism before the basic security of our community and that is an egregious failure of leadership. This is a beautiful place. But our first responsibility should always be to the safety and well-being of the people who live here. All right. So we have a motion by Supervisor Garmin, seconded I believe by Supervisor Keltstrom. Chair if I could. Yes. I apologize for the interruption. So the item for consideration today is whether this board would like to choose to appoint an alternate member to the ad hoc committee or not to appoint. The board could also choose to take no action on this item. So we can't take no action. So- The motion on the table was to keep Miss short on the ad hoc committee, but that was not an item. So we'll just take your action. She would still remain on their correct. Correct. So now withdraw my motion. Thank you, supervisor. Garmin, is that okay with you, supervisor Kelschum? All right. Supervisor Jones. Well, I'd make a motion to put me on as an alternate for, well that's what's on the agenda and consider a point an alternate member. Well she's going to stay on and then you wouldn't be able to because there's two supervisors already on. Okay, so Notre, you're the alternate now? No, she's on it. She's on it. If she stepped off, we'd have to put somebody else on. And Chair, I believe that an alternate could be another board member and they could step in in the event that one of the board members that was appointed to the Sad Haw Committee has never been involved and is not available to do so. Yeah, I mean, okay. Yeah, I mean, is that. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's fine. I would support if you want to be the alternate in case Tim or Chris can't make it. Yeah, I would ask supervisor Garmin, supervisor Calstr whenever those are. If they've already been involved, I'll defer to council. But I believe if they've already been involved, then we can't appoint another supervisor. Okay, yeah, perfect. Supervisor Rickard. Yes, I just want to first of all thank Ms. Short for that presentation. that's something that I have struggled with from the very beginning on this whole subject. I'm very concerned that it's cost-effective and it's going to actually produce revenue for the county. Because I mean, I'm familiar especially with the Intermountain area. We have a lot of fishermen. A lot of people own their own homes up there or if they bring friends to fish. I mean, it's usually they stay in properties that are already there and there's no TOT tax even involved there. And you're right, there's no ticket stand where you have to pay to get onto the river. So many of our resources are just open to the public and so there's no way to recoup that income that would be spent on this. I agree wholeheartedly in my opinion that we need to focus more on public safety, so that's where our dollar should be going in just a county and not spend on this. All right, so we're taking no action on R5. All right, on R6, that has been pulled, moving to R7, Bryce Richie, administrative analyst, welcome. How are you doing, sir? Good. Thanks for having me. This is a no vote item. Go ahead. I'll wait for Stephanie to get the presentation up and running. That's fine. Good morning Chair, our members of the board, Vice-Chair of Administrative, Administrative, and the County Administrative Office. Thank you for having me. As noted in the staff report, in search of more efficient business practices and transparency with the public, the Administrative Office, along with County Council's office, entered into an agreement with next request LC for a public record act management software. Next request was selected for its ease of use in the positive references. We received from other California public agencies that also use the product. And software comes with the slew of features that have already and will continue to streamline the PRA management process, greatly reducing the amount of staff time needed to oversee and respond to these requests. Just as important it provides a single database for anyone to search previously close requests and release documents. The portal went live August 1st, but we wanted to use this presentation as an opportunity to inform those in the public that may have been unaware of the new portal and the given insight to have it operates. The new portal can be accessed either through going to Shastthekowneeca.nxtrequest.com or through the county's public records request webpage on the county's webpage shown on the slide. If members in the audience would like to quickly access the portal right now they can scan the QR code in the top right corner of the slide. Also, on our county web page is some information about the PRA process as well as a quick walkthrough of the steps needed to submit a request through the portal. A few notes for those in the audience and those listening. The portal will allow for easier and quicker process to submit requests. You can also search for previously published requests that stayed before. Request can still be submitted through email, mail, or any other previously used method. But now we will be entering and we already have been entering all the requests into the portal. Additionally, all requests or all communication about requests will be coming from the email show on screen, PRA request at chestcounty.gov. That ensures that those communicating with the county know that they're actually hearing from us and not someone trying to spoof or impersonate the county. Accounts are not required to submit a request. The only caveat to that is if you want to attach documents to your request, you do need an account. Accounts are recommended though they make it easier to find previously submitted requests as well as see the status of a requests that are currently in process. One last reminder is that any request submitted is public. So we recommend not including birthday, social security numbers and other sensitive information. Upon accessing the portal, this is the web page that people we greeted with. From here users can submit a request by use either of the make request buttons that are highlighted there. They can search through previously submitted requests either through hitting the search button, or the all requests or document button that are at the top. That number that's shown on the screen was from when we very first went live. Currently we have I think 124 requests in the portal 62 of which have been published to date. It's just over three requests received per working day for the county. Additionally, if users have or members of the public have signed up for an account, we're like to create one. They can use the sign in button in the top right corner of the screen. Lastly, down at the bottom, a helpful link can be found, including the FAQs page that has helpful information regarding the request process. When someone submits a request and they hit that make request button, it takes them to this PRA form. The very top is the field to fill out the details of the request. Additionally, as mentioned earlier, if a requester has created an account, they can attach documents to the request using the choose files. But next requesters can select their department their request belongs to. So if they're willing for building permit they would select resource management, and so on and so forth. They do not have to select a department once we receive it, we'll assign it to any departments that have responsive records. Scrolling down the next fields are those where they can fill out their information. Requesters are not required to enter in any information. They can be completely anonymous. I will add that though if they don't enter in any information, we won't know how to contact them. We'll still proceed with the request as we normally do. And if there are records, we would publish them. But they wouldn't get notification that that's been done. And if we had any questions and needed to clarify the request, we wouldn't be able to do that without some contact information. When they go to submit the request, let's say they don't enter any information there, the shot on the right there of no email, entered will pop up just letting them know that they won't get any updates. They can still submit the request by hitting the continue button. And then to finally submit the request all they have to do is hit the make request button. And in the case if they do include an email they will get an automatic email confirming that the request has been submitted. Once a request is complete and the documents have been released they will show up in the portal for anyone to access. Total number of published requests can be seen in the top right corner of the screen there. It says one, but like I mentioned earlier, we're already up to much more. You can access this page by hitting the search button or the all request button on the main homepage there when you go to the link. You can select a request by clicking the request number there shown at the bottom. In this case it was 24-4. I mean it will take you into the request screen which looks like what's shown on the slide. On this screen you can see the timeline of when the request was submitted, when departments were assigned to the points of contact were in any communication that went from the county to the requester. Additionally, if you click on the Documents tab, it will show any documents that have been released. And anyone can download those using the arrow to the right of each document, or if you want to download multiple, you can select as many as you want, and then hit the download next to select all. The county is very excited about this new tool for the benefits provided to both the public and staff. And that concludes my presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions from the board if there are any. Thank you, Bryce, appreciate it. Sue, was your record? Yes, I had a question. So I read through all this. And last week, Mr. Garmin and I had a request, records request from the County Council's office. And it was not specific at all. Why is it we don't know who actually made that request? I don't think the County Council wanted to see my emails. Why was it being filtered through the County Council's office and I don't supervise our Garmin and I have the right to know who made that request? I'd refer about the process there to council but Departments are assigned based on what the request is often when the board is involved in actions We include County Council just as a matter of business practice, but but usually when I have a records request I will see it it comes up on my screen and they'll say who's making the request. And this one I don't know who's making the request. And why is this being, I mean this shows that it's being made very public, but I don't know who it was that made this request. Requestors don't have to include any information. They can be completely anonymous. So there is no, there, you know, there is no assumption that they make. So a person that makes a request can be anonymous. Yeah, and they don't have to, and same with the portal. They don't have to include their name or their email or anything. Okay. It just seemed the first time I've ever seen where I don't know who the requester was. Yeah, usually it has like, if it's an email, it will say from the two. And it'll have, they want to have these names. You got to, you got to. Yes. and it will have, they want to have these names. You got to rip. Yes, yeah, I'm sure it was really weird. And I think the request came from the clerk of the board's office and we're involved in those because as supervisors, you may have emails where you're communicating with Council or other emails that might be confidential and we would redact or remove those before it was put out. Understood. Any other questions? All right. Dolores, the Sarah, we have public comment. Two minutes. Chargers for clarification. Are we doing two or three minutes? Two minutes. On this public record request, do you have anything where it says that your privacy is going to be violated. Because when you put that out there, you're violating my rights, my privacy, what I'm asking for. And then you're also jeopardizing my life. What I'm requesting any documents. So I'm not going to be asking them for the public records through the email. I'm going to ask them to provide them in person, because I don't have to ask them through email. So I can do that. So we don't have to go through that system, just so you know that. Yeah, you could move your shoulders, but I'm just letting you know, if you're trying to intimidate people who's asking for public records, to disclose that who's asking to try to stop them from asking for public records to disclose that who's asking to try to stop them from asking for public records because that's what it is intimidation but it doesn't scare me. There's always a way around from what you do we can always find the loop post. Good price would you come up here and I mean this is the very first I mean we saw this on the agenda and it wasn't even something I looked at the staff before because I knew there's a present. Can you even explain how we got to this? Yeah, so the county spends countless hours a year dealing with public records requests. And what this does is this allows us a streamlined process for managing those, communicating with the public, releasing requests. It also provides a repository for all the documents which over time will prevent duplicative requests because the documents are already going to be available to the public. And so there's, I mean, in terms of reduced staff time and efficiencies, we're looking at thousands of dollars to save each year. It also, just to clarify, you can be completely anonymous. Again, you don't have to enter in any information. Any request that we receive, whether it's by email or letter or even verbal, we enter into the system. Because if person B wants the same documents as person A, they don't have to go through the process of filing a request anymore and waiting for that response. They can just go and get the documents. I mean, I appreciate the clarification for people that are misinformed and don't understand the process. So thank you so much. You're welcome. All right. With that, we're going to move forward into public comment open period time. We have quite a stack. We are at quarter of. We are going to take a few of these and then we're going to go and we have one misblankin ship for a closed session. That's correct, Chair. Okay. So I'm going to just in the order received. I'm going to Margaret Cantrell, Deidre Holiday, Carl, Liscard, Swan, Lisgard, if we could get, and then, Antonio, if we could get into Q, that would be great. Margaret, here she comes. Okay, Diedra, are you here? Oh, there you are, your second, Carl, Swan. Do not see them. Antonio, perfect. And then Rick, you'll be the four I know we'll get to prior to lunch. I keep hearing from people who speak up here that there is no evidence of election fraud in Chester County and now I'm heard it from a commission member. So I decided I would share my personal experiences of discovering election fraud in Chester County. I've put together a little packet for you which includes a document from the ACLU explaining the legalities of canvassing and point of information voter rolls are managed at the state level, not locally. In July, I canvassed with a friend checking addresses where a particular person voted, yet the Postal Services' data base said they had moved out of state. Two addresses were very interesting. In Chastelake City, we went to a street that was two blocks long ending in a cul-de-sac. The highest number in the cul-de-sac was 2489, yet the address we had was 2536. It was fraudulent, but a vote came from that address. In Palacito, the address we had was 19,000 something. The first number on that street was 21,000 something, and the address is one up from there. It too was fraudulent registration, and a vote came from that address. What does that mean? It means that if you voted yes on measure A and these two frauds voted no on measure A, your votes would be null and void and they would not count. You would have been disenfranchised. Check out how you feel about not having your vote count. Am I on two minutes or three? Two. Okay, I'm not gonna get done. Two years ago, I participated in a canvas of 2020. Yeah, do me a favor. If you want to submit all that time to email, that would be great. D-D-D-Okay, perfect. Thank you. Hi, this was a three minute talk. So I'll be submitting the talk to you. I recently read a letter from the Lex Rex Institute that was sent to each of you and his data dog is 30th of this year. I'm asking you to draft an adopt an ordinance that was recommended by Alexander Haberbush in that letter. The suggested ordinance would achieve three objectives. One, it would mandate a 100% hand verification audit of the election results conducted at the precinct level for all precincts. Two, it would prohibit the board from certifying the election results until the hand verification audit and machine tabulations reconcil reconcile with a certain percentage variance. Three is that it would establish that the manual counting process at the precinct level shall not serve as the official count, but rather as a reconciliation tool to verify the accuracy of the machine tabulations thereby reinforcing voter confidence and increasing transparency in the electoral process. These measures are in compliance with AB 969 and they address two of eight identified elements of a fair and transparent election. A 100% hand verification audit should provide an observable double check on the work done with machines. And doing the count as a precinct would preserve that link in the chain of custody that is lost with the transport of ballots from precinct to the registrar's office. Chain of custody is a must in order to avoid room for foul play. Despite repeated and exaggerated claims about cost, hand counting is much cheaper than machine counting. What we can't afford is the loss of our elections. I have not yet heard a reasonable objection to hand counting votes. We have nothing to lose in everything to gain by having this ordinance in place for the upcoming election in November. As Mr. Haberbush stated, the work Shasta County is doing to ensure election integrity is of immense importance in establishing integrity of elections across our state. And I would add across America, please move forward with the groundwork your prior decisions have laid for making every voter in Shaston know that his or her vote counts. Thank you. Antonia, followed by Rick. And just so you know, we're going to try it because we've shortened the time. We're going to try and get through as many as we can. We're going to go to probably 1230 before we take a break. Because I know it's troublesome to sit and then not be able to speak. Antonia, Rick, and then Linda Glass. There's standing with me. Okay. Why election integrity matters? A big percentage of American citizens lack confidence in election fairness. Every citizen has the right to vote. No one has the right to interfere with or diminish the exercise of this right. Our right to vote and our right to secure and fair elections. Our sacred institutions and that must be defended and held up to the highest standards. Every voter must know that their vote will count. No citizen should ever, should have to question whether an election outcome was fair or rigged. When elections are safe and secure, voter turnout is higher and the public has more faith and trust in their election officials. Making election integrity the most significant issue currently facing our democracy. We are encouraged by New Hampshire who is requiring voters to have proof of US citizenship in order to participate in elections. In Georgia, they are doing hand counting now. So those are encouraging words. So we want to be secure and eliminate electronic voting machines. Go back to Han County. It was done before same day Han County paper ballots at the same precinct. Voting registration shall include ID and residence verification. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Rick, followed by Linda Glass, followed by Thomas H, followed by Kay, followed by Sherry Landon, then followed by Casey. Good morning, board. This is a letter to the sheriff, John Sand, from Bev. She's a citizen of Redding, enclosed. Please find 101 declarations served on Joanne, a French ask at Chester County, R.O.V. Because of her unconstitutional action, which may also constitute a crime. I have a copy of all these for all you on the board. There's seven of them in here. I'm gonna put you here. Writing on behalf of all those who have submitted the attached declarations, referenced as through fully set herein, we are asking you to initiate a criminal investigation of the above name person for the following crime. One, the above name person, which is Joanna Francesca, complete one, perjury of oath of office. Every official must take the oath prior to starting their duties. Every person who, while taking and submitting the oath of affirmation required by this chapter, states, as true, Annie's material matter, which he or she knows to be false, is guilty of perjury and is punishable by imprisonment, pursuant to subdivision H of Section 1170 of the penal code for two, three, or four years. Complaint number two. Joanna Francesca was given 10 days to respond to these charges and failed to do so, ignoring her. Constituents is morally wrong. Adding to that, in US, the tweet, tw Twill, 550, 2D, 297, silence can only be equated with fraud, where there is legal or moral duty to speak on or where an inquiry, left unanswered would be initially misleading, complete three. I'm not going to make it. Anyway, I have a copy of all these right here, and I'm going to submit those. Thank you very much. Which has all the rest of you. Linda Glass, Thomas H. Sherry Landon, followed by Casey, if we can get in queue to keep it going. Welcome. Followed by Casey if we can get in queue to keep it going welcome One of you for all of the the community events that you attend and I know that you're all trying to do your best to communicate and to pass laws and Benefit the whole community. I moved here 44 years ago, and I enjoyed so many of the public events that we all go to. The Redding rodeo, the convention center, the Christmas cascade, the Garden of Lights. We all shop at Costco, Winco, various places who go to high school graduations. I'd like to call us together back to our roots to remember who we are as a community that is located in one of the most gorgeous places on the face of the earth with lots and lots of human resources, lots and lots of wonderful people and lots and lots of beautiful places to visit. When I first started teaching here and went to some of the events, I was so impressed by the attitude of the community. I don't understand why we can all get together as a community at all of these events and yet in the register our voters office there's one huge fence and I believe that the media is giving us false propaganda that we are divided that we have some kind of big against each other. Thank you. Thomas H. Thomas H. Followed by Sherry Landon, followed by KC. Thomas, it's good to be here. I just come up fishing and find about property here. It's a great place to live. July this year, I applied for to be a poll worker. And I got a response here, I think August 22nd. And it says that I'm not eligible because of state rules. And basically, I went down last election and once the last five days of counting the votes and I call it cheating. They've got fancy names for it but it's cheating. And so I was asked to go and report what I see in the courthouse. And so Mr. Toller said since I went against Shasta County's election official, I am no longer allowed to be a poll worker. Mr. Toller also said he had visually seen me attack somebody here in this court. So I'm no longer a poll worker. I basically, I like Shasta County. It's a good place. You guys, three guys can change. You can be the start. You three guys can be the start of something different. Why does Europe go back to Han County? France, England, Italy, Sweden? Why does some of those countries go back because they know the machines are infallible. And I don't know that much about machines, but I can tell when somebody, we count the thots right in front of my eyes. But when we hand counted precinct levels, show ID, you'll have more honest elections, and you guys can't have, we give the rules. The attorney has the rules and we've three guys to step up and you guys can say hey, but it is going to change and why not be the leader. Thank you. Sherry, Casey, Linda Lucero, Dan Ladd, Gary, and Beth. Good morning. I'm a Chester County observer for the past few elections. And I'm here speaking for my children. I'm here speaking for my children. I'm here speaking for my grandchildren. I'm here because my constitutional and God-given rights are violated by this county and its election process. I have every right to secure transparent election. AB 969 is in direct violation to my right to a fair transparent secure election, is not requiring photo IDs. Never has it been proven to the public that machine voting is secure. On the contrary, it's been proven in court they are easily hacked. So AB 969 denies the public of their voice, which is a fundamental constitutional right. Never has our RV office proven that their ultra complicated, non-transparent, non-secure election process is fair. In fact, the deputy ROV admitted in court that they have broken many election laws in the last election. Where is the accountability? Where is the accountability for the significant number of ballots that don't get reconciled? This is not okay. It's a constitutional crime. Where's the accountability for over 100 over votes in the last election? Where's the investigation? You are responsible for ensuring our sacred votes are counted. This has been no accountability. What about lack of chain of custody for the sacred ballots? What about unlawed ballot storage rooms? What about unsealed boxes unaccounted for? And much, much more that observers have witnessed. By the way, being an observer is demoralizing. The lack of transparency is extremely apparent. So I encourage anyone to see what lack of Dan Ladd, followed by Gary, followed by Bev. Thank you. It was a great meeting today. I learned a lot. I almost forgot what I was going to say, but I just wanted to let you guys know. It was a great meeting, and I learned a lot. I do want to talk about hand counting. I've been told that there's not enough time to change. It's too close to the election, but I know that during COVID, the government was able to switch the things, shut things down, just like that. So, and they did it for us. So, for us, can we get this hand-counting change before the election? Thank you. Thank you. Dan Ladd followed by Gary followed by Bev followed by Laura Hobbs. Yes, thank you for your time. Election integrity is why I'm here and have been started to attend meetings and I appreciate the work you do. And I know that you want integrity. We want November 6th to be a peaceful day. And to do that we have to all have faith in what's happened the night before. And getting involved and seeing what's going on, the observation started last week for the election, the ROB, and being able to see them test the machines and things. We're not following the guidelines that the ROV, the Chester County, ROB has, where we're supposed to be able to have visual and audio observation of what's happening. We're told to stand in the hallway, you're not given a chair, you're not allowed to take a chair. For five hours of watching a monitor in which you can't hear anything in the monitors in another room. That is not what the plan says and plan says that we're supposed to be able to out of, out of the way and visually see what's going on. The signature verification that's being done, we're not allowed to question whatibly holding the ballot as they evaluate and determine whether the signature is proper or not and that needs to be changed. These are all things that for us to all have faith in what's happened and how the count is done and it's done fairly. Those changes need to take place in the next few weeks before the election happens. I know that there's always talk about a lot of employees leaving and things. Has there been a debrief by human resources on why those people left? Were they afraid of what voters were going to do or were they afraid of what was happening in those offices and they didn't want to be criminally prosecuted for what they were being asked to do? Has evaluations been done on why those employees left? It would be a question that I'd want you to look into. Thank you. Thank you. Gary, Bev, Laura Hobbs, Monique, Gary, how are you? How are you? How are you? That's what I thought. All right. Welcome. Thank you. I want to thank you all for your service. I'm sorry. All right. Welcome. Thank you. I want to thank you all for your service. And I want to cite a 2022 poll by Newsweek reported in Newsweek that only 20% of the electorate has high confidence in our elections. And the Shast to County has a responsibility to the constituents to make sure that we have safe elections. While AB 969 would seem to prohibit hand counting, you've already heard response from a previous speaker that the Lex Rex Institute said that it can be done through validating, so we can validate the elections with hand counting. These machines are black boxes. I'm a electrical engineer. I've tried to sell systems into secure applications, and you cannot have connection to the internet. You cannot have open USB ports. These are open to hacking. They're open to manipulation. And they're black boxes. They can't even be validated. So hand counting is the only mechanism by which you can do that. I've learned from Laura Hobbs, who's going to be speaking here, that manual tally plan has been submitted to the board. And I would ask you to move forward with all alacrity and diligence in implementing hand counting procedure for the election in November. Thank you. Thank you. Ben, followed by, for Hobbs, November. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ben, followed by Brawabs, followed by Monique. I do not see, followed by Bert, followed by Rick. Not sure if it's a different Rick, but it is. No, what happened there was, okay. Kamala Harris has said, I'm a gun owner, Tim Walsh is a gun owner. Anyone that breaks into my house is getting shot. Kamala has told gun owners that authorities could walk into their homes and expect whether they were storing their firearms properly under the new law that she helped draft. We are going to require responsible behaviors amongst everybody in the community. And just because you legally possess a gun in the sanity of your locked home, doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way you conduct your affairs. Someone needs to read the second amendment right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. She once meant mandatory guns bybacks. She will take action in her first 100 days if elected. President and Congress does not take action. My question is, if this should happen, how are you going to protect our rights? Will you protect our rights to own guns the same way you protect our rights to a fair election. Do you get to pick and choose what rights we are entitled to? After seeing what happened this morning, I think I know how this is gonna go. If this happens, I don't believe our rights are gonna be totally protected any better than they are by some for the election. Thank you. Laura, do not see Monique burped. If you could please get in queue, followed by Don Duckett, followed by Chris S. Okay, there's a number of laws that have been passed by the state legislature that are infringing on our rights here. One is Assembly Bill 3184, and this requires ROV to wait 28 days before certifying elections. Why? This gives them more time to create counterfeit ballots to match the computer manipulated results. AB 2642, which thank you for writing that letter in opposition. It's under the pretense of election intimidation, but guess what? You no longer have to prove that you have the intent to intimidate. So they can use this against election observers who are asking questions politely and say, well, I felt intimidated by them. Trust me, anyone who goes in there to be an election observer, you will feel and see the atmosphere. It is tense, they basically treat us worse than they treat prisoners. Right now we have a bathroom schedule. You're not allowed to use the public bathroom, which us as taxpayers pay for. We pay for the rent, the $15,000 rent in this building, but we're not allowed to use that bathroom as where there's observers. They're going to have a 90 minutes rotating schedule. You're not allowed to sit in a chair that we as taxpayers pay for. Most of our observers are elderly retired, they have more time on their hands. But they can't stand on their feet for five hours at a time to observe these elections. We need to do something now. The state is not going to stop in their tyrannical approach to our elections. Shasta County, if you guys as supervisors care about our sovereignty, you need to do something now to protect our rights to a fair and accurately counted election. It's not good enough just to stand up against the windmills, you need to stand up when it comes to elections. And our rights to have our votes counted fairly, thank you. followed by Don, followed by Chris S, followed by Dolores, followed by Laurie Bridgeford. If we can get in queue, that would be of great help. Welcome. Before you start my time, can I explain one thing? You guys have us totally out of order, and now you're going to get a second part of a letter, or a first part of a letter that was the second part. It affects you the board. We're going to be sending this letter out to you in full So I'm just going to join start up where I just read them as they're handed to me. Okay, go ahead. All right Complaint again since the citizens declaration asking seven specific questions these questions were simple answering with a simple yes or no. For example, every county registrar in every county in the country represented that the voting machines were not connected to the internet. Since then it has been universally admitted that voting machines were connected to the internet, either by cable or by Wi-Fi. While counties maintain a log of those who physically access individual machines in person, there is no record of unauthorized access of the machines using Wi-Fi during non-business hours nor while counting votes. This statement alone asks, do you agree? A simple yes or no, yet the ROV did not only not only chose to not answer this question but also did not answer the remaining seven questions and did not respond to the declaration at all. An elected official who sworn oath of office who oversees elections and refused to acknowledge these citizens and their concerns. Joanna Friskut oversaw the March 5th, 2024 election. She and her team members did an alpha draw for some of the local races, but not all. There was no notice to the public that they could observe. We believe this is in violation of election codes, 1-1-1-3-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-3. The Center for the Tech and Civic Life offered Shasta County $1.5 million. The Board of Supervisors was divided on whether to accept this money. ROV, Francesca, was a witness and or participant in trying to re-write the contract. Thank you. Don Tuckett, followed by Chris S, followed by Dolores, followed by Laurie Bridgeford. If you can, please get in queue. Good afternoon, Board. I was going to talk about this last week, but I got distracted. So I'm going to talk a little bit today about misinformation that comes off of the dias here during the meetings. And I want to encourage the Board when you're hearing stories about your departments out in the community. Before you repeat that story on the dias, and I've heard lots of examples of that, that you check with your department heads because it really ruins department's reputations when you don't check first. And I'll use a recent example with the container ordinance hearing. Supervisor Kelsrom told a story about a buddy of his who essentially was run out of town by code enforcement because of two containers or a couple containers on his property. And Supervisor Kelsroom said that code enforcement had find his friend and had put leans on his friend's property. And I'm not saying that you're a liar, Supervisor Kelsroom, but had you picked up the phone and double checked those facts with your department head. And the reason I know this is because I used to do it. Code enforcement is not authorized to place leans on people's properties without a court process called a nuisance abatement hearing. And the same thing goes with fines. Those have to be authorized by a court or ordered by a court officer. So, and I also wanted to say in all of my years, we never once took a property owner to a nuisance abatement court process because of two containers on their property. So it just, the moral of the story is here before you tell stories on the dias that you call your department heads and give them the benefit of the doubt to defend themselves. Thank you. Chris S. Followed by Dolores. Followed by Laurie. Followed by Jeff. Hello, my name is Chris. I've been a homeless advocate for 20 years. I've been a director, our pastor director of Reading Loves and Fissures for six. About eight days ago, I was eating lunch at Tortelia Flats when I saw homeless blind girl with a red and white cane trying to tap her way down the street. I thought how shocking that was when she ran into Tortelia Flats. So I started a little conversation whether she's very frustrated with her situation and has anger issues. They kicked her out of the mission when I talked to the Green Badge there, which is a paid staff member of the mission. And then a weekend I called their hotline and they said, well, we've got to start somewhere as kicking people out. She wasn't allowed to stay there, but she was allowed to eat. So I challenge you, Mr. Cry. You want to vet. I thought I heard you say you want to vet all these organizations before you start giving them money. I applaud that. You know, the good news rescue mission is not the bread and butter that everyone thinks it is. You want to get staff infections, you want to get Merse, you better get some wipes for those mats that they lay down on the floor. You want to get lights, skabies, or crabs. They've had many multiple infestations there. In the cities, various cities and counties, their leaders were challenged. And I challenge you, especially you, Mr. Kelsstrom, to spend a night at the mission, dress down and go there unannounced and see how they're treated. I know you like to give reports on the food that you receive. So why don't you give one on the gruel that people eat there at that mission? That'd be really nice. You, Mr. Keltz or Mr. Kri, I applaud you for the work that you do at the, with Jerry and Skippy. Unfortunately, when you and the other city Councilor had that great, big presentation, no more than two days later, they raided Mercy Canyon and ran everyone out. So maybe you could take another little step further, get your 49er pajamas on and go down to the mission unannounced and see exactly how they're treated. I think it's preposterous that you use that as some kind of a be- Thank you. I've actually been down to the mission multiple times, announced and unannounced and the chances of supervisor Kelschrom sneaking anywhere unannounced is unlikely. Dolores, then Laurie Bridgeford. No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth. I speak the truth and I'm very hated because of it. And people retaliate against me because I speak the truth. And I thought we are supposed to speak the truth without being, without having to worry about retaliation. Is that what we teach our children? You tell the truth, you're gonna be punished. You're gonna retaliate against you. That's what you do to an adult. I'm actually a member of the ACLU, including the first amendment coalition. The member, the letter that you receive when you try to silence the media to make sure they win to the little room. Well, I'm a member of that. So, just so you know, I know you guys always think it's funny. A former Orange County education official sentenced to nearly six years in federal prison for embezzling more than 16.6 million from school districts. So Kevin Kraai, I think you will fall into that category. This came from the FBI. I get these in the FBI website. So I'm sure you will be probably soon in that category. And we'll get a list of what you did and how much money you took from all the schools in the county. And Patrick Jones, you've done nothing since you've been on the board, including when you were in city councils and ready. We have so many problems in the city of Chastelike, you have not addressed, you've done nothing for our county, for our district. The chamber is actually double dipping, Janice Powell, and you've done nothing. We can't even come to you because all you are is one of those persons just looking to take a position to personal gain. And that's what you done. You waste people's time to be elected because we can't come to you because it's all about you and also. Sorry. I'm sorry. Ridgeford followed by Jeff followed by Susan. That will publicly our last speaker before we go to close session public comment. I'll be drafted. 13 roughly. Okay. All right. I first want to commend Valerie. It's an honor to know you and what happened to the more I hear of the details and just everyone would love to clone someone like her and have them work in their business. So I can't say enough about how awesome that is. I just want to say something in case the later speakers mentioned on my tabletop, I was giving away free, feminine hygiene products for people that have a leaky mouth. Those that can't keep their impulse controlled, the yelling, the screaming out and blurting, it's been happening for a long time. And so an individual walked away with that. That's okay, I photographed my table before I walk away from it and go to the media area. My topic today is about HHS and public health. I know they're having issues with the different directors on the medical leave, there's an interim person, there's some financial issues, morale, obviously it's almost half of our budget. So I'm, I'm, I'm going to focus on how to make this very clear that I would like to see as well as some other people in immediate address of what's going on with the next variant, the next wave, Bert Lou, Monkey Pox, Omicron, the XCC, the new COVID. I mean, this is just totally confusing. So here's the two things I would like to see is one. And this is what you see the doctor move or any other design, but we need a formal panel or a forum live with live Q&A, not pre-taped anything, because that's how you can just make it fit how you want. So here's one question, is this US childhood vaccine schedule safe? There's some 70 jabs and now they want what, three for the little kids born up until they're nine months old. Three COVIDs, really. And my second issue is the COVID vaccine safe. We are not being told the truth publicly, and there's under reporting, there's long-term consequences, loss of trust, ethical violations, increased disability, long-term illness, and early mortality. And I've brought this up before with the morgue, Sheriff's Office being separated. So denial must be challenged. Thank you. Thank you. Seeing no, Jeff, we'll be Susan and then Larry Larry S since Jeff is not here. Okay, I want to talk to you about the hiring of Wyatt Paxton for the resource director. To me, this is the most shocking form of chromias, cron, I can imagine. Here's a man who worked for Enselmo. He wants to get rid of, from what I can tell if I'm wrong, correct me, he wants to get rid of resource departments. He wants to get rid of rules. He wants to get rid of policies about, that the resource center would hold. How could you vote him in when the man who left that position not a month ago had a person had served many years under him and said, I would like this person to take it. Why did you not give it to the person that had the experience? It looks like crony isn't to me. What else could there be? What how else could you explain it? Here, Anne Selmo money coming in to, I don't know who, but the rumors are out there and I've been talking about cronies in for a long time. And this is so blatant, I can hardly believe it. It's shocking. And the public needs to start paying attention as to why all the votes, 99% of them are 3 to 2. 3 to 2, 3 to 2, 3 to 2. There's something wrong with the way the businesses being handled in this county. I've been 95% of the meetings in the last two years and occasionally there'll be one other vote but it's always three to two, three to two, three to two. Now in all my years and you all know I have a lot of years I have never seen a board act like this and this is just shocking. Thank you. I know you'd mentioned the correct if you're wrong. So we did have two four to one votes. But anyway, Larry asked, come on up. You'll be our last speaker before we go to close session, public comment. I know we do have some of those. And then we will take the remaining one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, last people after. Yes sir. Okay thank you board. On November 5th we're going to have Inchastia County a free and fair and accurate election. Maga Boy is going to win overwhelmingly in Shasta County and nobody's going to think that that was a rigged election. However, while I've been observing, naturally, makes me feel good about the fact that Maga Boy is going to get kicked to the curb on a national election. And that's going to cause chaos and fracturing. I understand that. But what's going to happen is Project 2025 will not be implemented by the far right wing Heritage Foundation, which means America will not become a religious monarchy with the main religion being Christian nationalism. And by that I mean white Christian nationalism. And by that I mean angry white Christian nationalism. And by that I mean militant angry white Christian nationalism. When Pontius Pilate came out to Maga and said, I want to release Jesus Christ to Maga, Maga screamed out, give us Barabbas. All right. So Miss Blinkenship, do you have the closed session public? Did you give it to me already? Oh, no. Susan. I'm not on the closed session item. On item R9, we had a speaker request for from Susan Wies. I would have talked about that by a staff. Yeah, I guess she audible that came up during. Would you like to see, you do have a card in. Thank you. Okay, so that was okay. Well, with that, we have an estimated time of two and a half hours. We will not be back. We'll just call it. We won't be back before two o'clock just to be safe so that way if you want to come back we do have people. So two o'clock we will not come back before. We're at recess. Returning from closed session. Council Larmor, is there any reportable action? Mr. Chairman, R8 with four existing cases were heard. The first case due to a recusal of myself, Council Weber was present no reportable action. The three other cases under R8 were I was in the room, no reportable action, public employee appointment for two positions, no reportable action. Nothing further, Chair. Thank you. With that, we will continue on with public comment. Greg Bundy? Yes, sir. Greg Bundy. Yes, sir. After Greg Benjamin, after Benjamin, Jenny, after Jenny Ron Pember. Welcome, sir. Thank you. Good afternoon. Board is super right. Okay, the purpose, I'll just read this. First time I've ever done this. Okay, purposes, communications is formally communicated with this body with the hope of finding a fair and equitable response that will benefit the community of Shes County with new housing development project. In fall of 2021, I acquired a 267 acre tract of land in Shingle Town, California District 5. Land had a 10 to 39 in parcel residential subdivision map that had been extended 10 times over a decade and was near final but needed substantial push to obtain final approval. In a flurry of activity the county, the engineering firms, the developer, the realtors, the principals moved this project to a final approval by this board in December 2021. Thank you. During the sprint to final I was instructed to write many checks and sign reams of documents, one of which signings occurred in a conference room at Chester County Public Works. I was in and out in 10 minutes and apparently within the pile was a PRD document and a road construction and maintenance agreements drafted by public works. No copies of these documents were provided by the county for review by myself or my counsel. However, the tenor of the meeting seemed to be friendly toward a new developer looking to add to the housing supply after recent wildfires. My understanding of PRD at that moment was a private road division with roads maintained by local community, not the state. During the first year of absorbing the complexities of fire field management, local supply chain, and labor cost versus market demand and absorption rates as well as weather terrain and forestry dynamics. I received some unwelcome news in the form of 39 new tax bills, reflecting a 3500% tax increase for Shasta County from the prior owners assessment In a month of inquiry that followed I discovered that through the real estate transaction county had had taken See what I got a calister. Okay. Yeah, we've we talked about this a year ago And thanksgiving you got a whole bunch of bills in the mail right now How much further have you progress on the property since now? You've got cut the roads in, have you cleared some of the trees? No, we're in a five year process, which involves a few bucks. Since I talked to you about this and since I addressed it, I was working with the public work director who has since retired. I was also head county council involved who has since retired. So we've got new public works, we've got new, but the last I told you was just continue to move forward. Get it clear, do either brush, do your stuff that you need to do, and we'll deal with those PRDs. If you have to attach them to the new dwellings once you get them developed for them to pay the back fees. But in the meantime, I will talk to county council. So you want me to briefly explain, or no, not agendas. Okay. All right. You have still my number, right? Yeah. Okay, so give me a call and we'll, I'll work with the new people. I'm more of a kind of ran out of it. I know, I know. So, but I'm well aware of the situation, so. I appreciate it. We'll take care. If you have that, would you email it? Yeah, I have it. Copy it. If you can give it to Valerie, that'd be great, or put it in the box either way. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks. Benjamin, followed by Jenny, followed by Ron. Shasta County is in crisis. We're seeing a mass exodus of employees many forced out due to a lack of clear ethical leadership. From the top down, this isn't just poor governance, it's an assault and public service, where people are silenced for simply disagreeing with those in power. But public governance isn't about silencing voices you don't like, it's about serving the people, all of the people. Supervisor Kri, you've criticized Scowy, claiming they need oversight because they're quote, the only game in town. Yet you run a business, the Ninja Coalition, that receives government money from schools with the very same, without the very same transparency that you're demanding of others. The hypocrisy is blinding. I've witnessed school boards discussing sending funds your way simply because, quote, you're the only one in town. This has got to stop. You can't preach accountability while using your position to advance your own interest and silence those who disagree. Government is not about being the hero. It's about doing the job you are elected to do, even when those decisions are difficult, even when they upset your supporters. The government is for the people, not just for those that align with you politically. Silencing others because you don't like what they have to say is tyranny, not leadership. You need to do better for this county, your constituents, and for the integrity of the office. I just don't have faith that you will. Prove me wrong. If any employee or anyone for that matter has information or concerns with how the county is functioning, I would implore that you report with independent external agencies instead of using any internal procedures. Too many hardworking employees have been targeted for trying to hold their leaders accountable. If anyone wants to speak up, I'm willing to listen as well. I love Shasta County and I'm so disheartened by what it's become. Jenny, come on up. Followed by Ron, followed by Nathan, followed by and we're cycling back to Monique, Carl and Swan who I believe are not still here. Welcome Jenny. Hi. So lately I've been very pleased with the more substantial subjects being tackled by the board with drug addiction homelessness aces scores. They're all very important to talk about. Today I'd like to ask the board to remember our most valuable populations. While the common talking point with the homeless community is at the unhoused population is there by choice, we are forgetting that this is a complicated issue in life. Some people are heavily disabled unstuck in an endless loop of looking for a program to get off the streets that works with their specific needs. Shasta County needs to know that the homeless need a home that doesn't feel like a renamed jail. People need to be worked with where they are at. My friend Jacqueline wants to build a space where people have a safe space to leave their things. It starts with a tent and a sleeping bag but there are opportunities to the community service and work with the program to improve their lives and move upwards. They can get caught or space or even help each other build a real neighborhood. It's important to remember the mentally ill, the disabled, the drug addict are all still people. And some people just fall in hard times. Did you know that even some people are born into homelessness? That's a lot harder to get out of. Sometimes people just need to be treated with a little kindness and respect. Something that I like to remind people is if you want people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, sometimes you have to give them a pair of boots. I'm not asking for funding. Jacqueline is in talks with innovation for funding. We're just looking for support and maybe sometimes people to work with. Thank you. Thank you. Ron Pember, followed by Nathan, followed by Monique Carl and Swan. OK, good. Everybody probably knows him. My name's Ron Pember. And I'm here to talk about some of the things that have taken place before this in the last hours. They complained about losing their rights and that's exactly what I'm here for. We've had our rights taken away from us. So I'm going to on June 19th, 2024, there were four people who were applying for the ROV Clarkks job. So after they spoke, I had questions. If they plan to clear the voter rolls, if the citizens would be allowed to view the ballots being counted, and would paper ballots be used so a transparent election could be held, as we the citizens don't have the electronic voting codes for those voting machines, dominion and others. So anyhow, after that, a vote was called to select the replacements for Joanna and, I mean, Kathy Darling Allen. So we were denied our constitutional rights to ask questions and make comments, because if we didn't have our papers in, before this deal started, we'd not have to be allowed to answer. So anyhow, I'm going to read now from the Constitution, whenever any form of government becomes conductive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government and the principal and organizations and powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness. So, being said, I put two cards that can I speak again? No, you get one card per item, per public comment, or regular calendar item. Yes. Thank you. But I- Where will you lose our freedoms? I'm going to talk to you, but I. Where will you lose our freedoms? I'm talking to you, lawyer. Okay. Wait, you can't do it right now. I'm going to talk to you, guys. I'd like to talk to you. If you're going to. We've lost our rights. And this is why I'm here at the veteran as a citizen. Some of my brothers and sisters never get along with you on this time. Can we keep that in center? He can talk to you. Sure. There are a lot of people here that are in the right hands. I'm constantly doing my thing. You get the right to do the thing. I listen. And you don't have to talk about that. I don't want to say anything. I appreciate your service. Thank you, sir. Anything come on up? And I believe that is the last speaker that I have a card for. That is present. All right. So let me get this straight, Kevin. I just you announced four speakers before lunch. You said their names because we're going to be the last four speakers. That is present. All right, so let me get this straight, Kevin. I just, you announced four speakers before lunch. You said their names, these are going to be the last four speakers. So I was like, I don't want to hear any of these people. So I left. I think you saw me leave, and then you extended it a half an hour. Because I feel like that's the type of person you are. Okay, so if anyone on this board here, Patrick, is mentally ill, it's definitely you. You want to call Mary Rickard mentally ill. That's insane. That's literally insane. You have literally taken a swan dive off of a windmill into a rabbit hole filled with coolade and drank all the coolade. That's how cooked you are. So I'm glad intimidation is being discussed today because I believe the retaliation goes hand in hand with that. I know for a fact that you, Patrick, have been behind the scenes, flexing what little political power you have left to mess with the career of someone I greatly care about. You know who I'm talking about. Yes, you absolutely do. Someone who has done nothing to you, but you people have an MO of going after people I care about to get to me. This isn't even close to the only example of members of this board trying to screw with people's jobs behind the scenes, and I'll tell you this, it's all being carefully documented. This thing with wanting to bring guns into the elections office is also pathetic in nothing more than intimidation. On top of the fact that your rights and when they infringe on someone else's, nobody needs a gun in an elections office. People just want to instill fear. Well, I'm telling you now, you and your people have proved your cowardice entirely at this point and we aren't afraid of you, like at all. You also seem to think that you're the only ones with guns. In fact, I encourage anyone who sees this to join my Facebook group called Shasta County Liberals with guns, because we actually believe in the Second Amendment is not just a way to try to intimidate I'll give you a few minutes to accommodate others. But mainly I came down here to tell you Patrick, to your stupid face that I know what you've been up to. And lastly, you're out of office soon and you're going to lose the legal protections of the county pretty soon. So yeah. All right, Bruce, I apologize that you, it was shuffled through here. And I just want to make sure again, maybe we could live stream this Sunday, but as I'm handed these 40 son cards, I just say him in order. The only time I have it is when they were dropped on the floor once and I just picked them back up. All right, Bruce, thank you. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, I just want to say the state of California despises the second amendment. They continue to try to pass laws to restrict the Second Amendment. Like SB 2 AB 2642 is just another example of our overbearing state trying to neuter the Second Amendment. Thankfully, the Board approved sending the letter in opposition to AB 2642 today. And sadly, that vote should have been a 50 vote. Anyone who truly supports the Second Amendment would have supported sending the letter. One of the arguments made against sending the letter basically said that any CCW holder could have unknown mental issues or problems, and therefore it may become a problem of intimidation. Based on that argument, no one should be granted CCW permits. This ignores the fact that CCW holders are some of the most responsible law abiding citizens in the country. These are dangerous times, crime is on the rise, and criminals don't follow the law regarding firearms. Citizens need to be able to protect themselves. I cannot support any elected official who does not support the Second Amendment. And thank you for sending the letter in opposition to AB 2642. Sadly, our dictatorial state will likely ignore the letter to remain silent on the Second Amendment, would have been a dereliction of your oath to support the Constitution. And also, I would just like to say on the elections, I support many of the people that spoke earlier, I couldn't be here, but a lot of great comments about the need to reform our election process. We need hand counting and we need to get rid of the paper, the electronic poll books. And I also find it troubling that Mr. Tom Hilderbrand can't be a poll worker for the comments that he cited. That just seems outrageous that he's being denied that right for what he said. And so that needs to be looked at. Thank you. Thank you, sir. All right. So moving to the consent calendar, I'm going, Supervisor Rickert is going to be recusing herself on C1. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to be recusing herself on C1. So what I'm going to do is I'm just going to pull that so we can take care of everything else. Then Supervisor Rickert can step out. And that, I think that'd be best or easiest for yourself as well. And I can't take credit for that. That was Kristen or Valerie's idea. So Stephanie's idea. Let's give Stephanie credit, I guess. Okay, so with that, do I have a motion to accept? I'll make a motion to accept the balance and I pulled six seats. You pulled C8, yes. So C8 has been C1 and C8 have both been pulled. All other items, we have a motion by supervisor Rickert, seconded by supervisor Jones. We've already taken public comment, is there any board discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Aye. Passes unanimous 5-0. Supervisor Rickard, we're going to take, we'll take 8. Okay. Okay. Oh, you want to do see it? Okay. C8. Yes. I just had a question. I talked to Christy Coleman yesterday and she didn't really know the answer so I was going to ask. I don't know if it's County Council or CEO Rickard or who exactly would sit. When you talk about approving Revenue Agreement, California Department of Health, Care Services for Mental Health Services and designated authority to the County Executive Officer or their designate to sign future documents, amendments and agreements, including retroactive. So why is this happening? I'm just curious, because Christie didn't know. I'm sorry, Supervisor Record, what part do you want clarification? Basically, why are you being designated as the authority to now sign all the agreements? It would be me or my designee. Right. you being designated as the authority to now sign all the agreements. It would be me or my designee. Right. But why? So we have better review and control over those funds when they're access. So we can review that. I want to be able to review that before it's approved. Okay, so this is going to be just the California Department of Health Care Services, agreement sources? I will look at contracts on a basis by basis and determine if it's been delegated to a lower down the tier and determine whether or not I need to review that. In this case, I feel I need to review that. Okay, so when you do the board review or before the agenda review, do you look at these agreements at that time? I look at when we do review of contracts, I do look at that and review that with staff and make a determination if there need to be any modifications or adjustments. So it just seems odd to me that this is being taken away from the health and human services director and given to you. It's just something new I've never seen before. That's all I just, and I didn't get an answer from Ms. Coleman, so she wasn't too sure why. So I just was curious. But. I'm assuming, and if I'm assuming, so if I said record, maybe this was, I don't know. If maybe this was put in motion by Laura weeks ago, I don't know, if maybe this was put in motion by Laura weeks ago, I don't know. Is there? Well, I would think Ms. Bowman would have known about that. I'm curious as well, like just, I mean. Well, I'm just curious. I just don't know why this is happening. That's all. It's just an orthodox. That's all it. I just hadn't seen this before. I'd be happy to talk about it with Christy Coleman or Lerberge. Okay. All right. I think that they probably would like to know the rationale behind it. And your designate is steward or Aaron, correct? So you're just, you're being, I could designate it right back to HHSA too. Well, yeah. It's just, what do you mean the loop report, this is basically just to check some balances of just keeping a close eye. Correct. Yeah, that's what the staff report said. Okay. Supervisor Garmin. Yeah, is this something we can bring back? Maybe get some more information on? Well, I mean, I read the staff report. I'm comfortable with what? I just hear from HHS saying what they feel like. Well, I mean, so I understand. It's just like for me, I'll make a motion to approve C8 as written based off the staff report. But that's, but I mean, if you, we can vote against that. I'm all for if the CEO's office and his identity, whether it be Steward or Aaron or another analyst has more oversight. But again, he can kick it right back to HHSA. I mean, normally my experience is a director if they don't like something will reach out to me, probably like they'll reach out to all of you and say, hey, I don't like this or whatever. So I didn't hear anything from HHSA on this. I never spoke to CEO Rickard about it. So to me, I just read the staff report and I'm good with that. But so I make a motion, we approve CA as is. I'll second. Under discussion. Well, yeah, I see you guys are jumping. Yeah, well, he's in queue, then super is Rickard, go ahead. I mean, ultimately the board makes this decision on all these. So I mean, we can read the staff report. We, you know, whether we want to support this particular issue or not, so that every one of these goes before the board. Correct. Sue Resericker. Well, you know, I just think if the CEO is looking at it during the board review, if there's questions there, then he can go back. It's just, it seems like it's taking the authority of the HHSA director away from them. And so that's what I didn't know. And when I talked to Ms. Coleman, because Ms. Birch is out on medical leave, she didn't really know the answer either. So that's why I thought I'd ask it here in the open session. That's all. I'm still not quite sure why we're doing a steward. Maybe you have the magic. I'm going to try. So thank you, board. Stuart W. Tell, Deputy County Executive Officer. So within six-to-one-one, the administrative policy that is our contracts manual, there is some discretionary authority given by the board to designated authority. Typically, it would fall to the CEO first, and then potentially to a department head. In this particular case, the rules are a little bit unique only because it's revenue agreement, right? So there's money coming in. I would only caution the board if the board decides to bring this back to later date. There is revenue on the line. And because it's with the State Department, DHCS, it could be a significant amount of revenue. No, and it's important. We need to keep the dollars coming in. So, you know, I'm going to vote yes to approve it. I just was trying to find out exactly what the rationale was behind it. That's all. I'm just what the thinking was as to why this was, why a change was being made. That's all. That on C1, I am going to recuse. Oh, we got a vote. Okay. Okay, so I made a motion on C8, is there a second? It's been seconded. Oh, it is, it's seconded by Supervisor Kelschrup. All those in favor? Passes 5-0. Now, Supervisor Rickard, C1. because it has to do with the Assembly Bill 1265, which is a Williamson Act. And my husband and I have a lot of property under the Williamson Act, so I will be stepping out. I'll be in the chair. Supervisor Jones. We've already gone over this, so I don't know if we really need to go into too much more depth, but otherwise I'm just going to make a motion to accept. I don't know. Well, Bryce seemed pretty excited to come up here. I'm here if there are any questions. Yeah, I'll second motion. We have a second. Bryce, do you want to, is there anyone to add that's... Not at all. Fantastic. Will you have strolled up there and straightened your coat? I thought it was gonna be a big speech. All right, we have a motion in a second. By super budget, Jones and Calstrom, all those in favor. All right. Passes for O, someone please go alert and Bryce is like, can I dress up for that? We're not leaving yet. We have our IHJ meeting. All right. Kristen Balleray, is there anything left on our regular calendar consent close session that we haven't addressed before we go to our? I believe that's everything, Chair. Okay, so we're going to at this time recess the Board of Supervisors meeting and come back as the IHSS in-home support services, public authority governing board. Don't have to read this whole thing. Councilor Lamord, don't have to read this whole thing. Which whole thing are we? False. Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we don't. We don't receive any extra income, anything like that. It's printed on the agenda, so I know. Correct. Public comment. Is there anybody that would like to address the board and public comment for IHS? We have two items. We have C1 and C2. Seeing none, do I have a motion to accept C1 and C2? Some of them. We have a motion by supervisor Jones. Sanketed by supervisor Keltstrom. Any board discussion? We're good. All those in favor? Aye. Passes 50 at this time. We are going to adjourn the IHSS governing board, reconvening as the Shaskan Board of Supervisors. And seeing nothing else, everybody, that is the meeting. Have a great day. Be safe.