I should look out for in those meetings. Schoolward meetings. So I wash it for a little bit. I couldn't give you an exact report, but. But you try to find any connection to this body. Okay. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna always talk about it. That we're interested in. Yeah, yeah. They touched a little on the. Some budgeting for two new electric school buses. So, oh, yeah, you should talk about that. Yeah, that up. Hey, excellent. Hello. Very good. I got some bad news for you. We're officially on the spotted lantern fly target list. Came with my PSA. Oh my gosh. Got my first one. Wow. I've already killed a bunch. Well, you're right. I'm so. I don't know why. I don't like that. But look, it's in a jar. I know, but I have a very delicately so that it's not. Okay. Thank you. Well, let's let's do that at the beginning. Okay. We can do a little PSA. Okay. Thank you. Let's do that at the beginning. Okay. We can do a little PSA. Okay. The Halloween. Yeah. The Halloween PSA. Yeah. It's working. All right. Hey. So Dallas about stopping lantern supplies that they've actually been, you know, not an effective dent, but a dent. A dent, yeah. Nice. It's happening. Yeah. It is. The main thing is if everyone knows that it's happening and is sufficiently scared of the consequences, if it all goes wrong, then we can all commit to not spreading the infestation. And like, just don't bring firewood when you go camping. You know, like, don't drive wood. That's actually, I think that's actually a bigger deal. And telling people to stomp on them is like a way to remind people that this is a thing that's happening. How would be good Halloween costume? A dead spotted lantern fly. Well, just a spotted lantern fly. A squished spotted lantern fly. That would be really scary. I bet Robin could pull it off. Yeah. Anything gentlemen? I'm sorry. I don't need that. No, good. That's the last thing. This is a moment that I realized I forgot my glasses. And we can have her do me. I will just read the. Here. I will just read the here. So it's pretty pathetic when you look at me and I'm like, trying to read things between the thin layer. Liz. Hello, hello. We might need some seats soon. Yes, we'll bring in some chairs from. Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, we'll see, but I know. Oh, we've got a couple right here. We're going to do okay. Tim. I'm going to find some more chairs. My email back to you makes sense. Something we should. Yeah, it did make sense. I wondered, I guess, the central question was whether the consultants gave us a spreadsheet. Yeah. I replied back with the spreadsheet, well, and then I sent, I replied back with the spreadsheet, right? Okay, I haven't looked at it yet. Okay, so I replied back and there's a spreadsheet. It's on the website actually. We can look at it for a second right now. But basically, if you go to the community energy plan site on the false search website, down at the very bottom. So here's like the actual seep that we always look at. But the very bottom is the reference modeling documents. So it's this top one. I have assumptions of things like average, beautiful. I have a bunch of miles to go. things like average, beautiful, central and high-level, which miles for value. I think so, do I think? Few efficient things for the consumers. Yeah, I think so. I haven't given it a deep dive. I thought, I don't, you play with it a little bit and see what you think. But right, like you've got the BAU's business as usual, right? So then you've got the GHD reduction summary. And one of them is on-road transportation and reference of some travel that's down here somewhere. Go on-road. The VMT, the emissions, the COGS. There's no calculation of the number of vehicles and miles per year and fuel efficiency. It's sort of basic. Yeah, I haven't given a deep dive myself, but right like you got passion review, it holds in the gasoline, and then this is I guess miles driven, and then they have to multiply by something to get here. Are you ready to get started? I am, first we can pair this back up later, and we'll play with it a little bit. Before we get started, I'll finish with this. So if you do wanna do the, good, sure. I'm definitely going to take some candidates tonight, just for what you know, let you be aware if you do that, it won't be in a photo. Just let me know now and I will not put you in a photo. But, besides that, I was hoping we could get a group picture. I know not everyone is necessarily here right now. But it's nice to have pictures we can use on materials and things. So you would not mind. I would appreciate that. Do we all agree? Yes? Group photo? Yeah. All right. Back in the motion. Thank you. Best place to stand might be like over there. I don't think we're at the wall. All right, you do that, so be and then we'll all go there. Yes, all right. That's what we want. That's what you want. Yeah, you guys get in there. We go under the earth. Or you have in there, isn't there? Not in here. In here. In right here, you guys. Several of the filing. Right. And you don't have to be in the photo. Do you all want to? I don't. So everyone has to. It's a free. I want to tell you. I want him. I respect your rights. Not here. So it's almost. Wow. I just want to give the. I don't insist to the real. I'm. This is too very long. You're all members are in. I'll widen the chat. It's going to be nice. Like any chat. If we can get here, the tallest person. Here. Can you just put my picture in from the screen behind there too? Thanks Debbie. Okay, I'm going to do one more. If you can come out into that pile and make sort of two rows, you'll going to do one more if you come out into that aisle and make sure two rows. You all have to be. Okay. Present. I'm going to go back in. A little more back in. You know, it doesn't hurt my feeling that the high schoolers are taller than me and Spina. I'm not so conscious about it. Well, we can slide down. It's just a survey. Come on, come on, doing it. All right, come on. We got beautiful. All right, baseline. I'm going to bring it in. OK. Everyone's got a window to your. You can come on in and get a spot. Oh, no. OK,. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. No, we're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. We're here. And I think we've got Debbie online too. So good evening everybody. Welcome to this October 17th meeting of the Environmental Sustainability Council on the Energy Transition Subcommittee. I'd like to call this meeting to order. We're gonna start the evening with a very fast roll call and just go around say your name and position. And I think Debbie's the only one online, so we'll go to her last. I'll start. I'm Joseph Sharizzi, Chair ESC. David Stahl, can you see, member? Hi, I'm Jim Stevens. I'm the liaison from the Plenty Commission. Chris Bear, yes, he member. Kurt Lawrence, staff liaison to the ESC. Back on the KMESC. Duke Rift, Vee and ESC. Thank you. Yeah. Great. Go ahead and introduce yourself. You said you throw. Thank you. And online tonight. Hi Debbie Hiscott. I'm the City Council liaison to the ESC. Sorry, I can't be there in person tonight. That's okay. Thank you for joining us, Debbie. So that's everyone makes it a lot easier to do public to do meeting minutes. So appreciate that. Next is our public comment period. Is there anyone with us this evening who would like to give a public comment? Hello, I'm Amy Crompton, you hear me? I'm Amy Crompton. I am a member of the Habitat Restaurant Task Group on this committee. And I am also the chair of the Urban Forestry Commission. And I'm here just to let you all know that the Spider-Manor fly is with us. It's in our community now. And so I have a sample of one that I stepped on very delicately. So it would be intact enough for you to see it. So I just want you to know that it's here. If you see it, squash it, and if it has you see egg masses like I'm showing here on this form scraping from the trees, it's going to become a huge infestation at some point. But if we can just kind of get people to get used to dealing with them, I think it would be really helpful. All right, and no panic, because it seems that they're not as dangerously problematic for the trees. They're eating on the trees, but they're not necessarily killing your trees. So we don't want to spray them with pesticides and things like that. We just want to squash them. Has anybody seen one yet? I've seen one. All right. Okay. And you squashed it, right? And I squashed it. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that, Amy. Father Lanter flies put more than 70 local plant species at risk, including roses, maples, birch, and can potentially completely decimate the Virginia grape industry. So yeah, keeping an eye out for that, we wanna limit infestations. And as of last week, false churches officially on the target list with the department of agriculture that's keeping track of where they are. So yeah, we can walk out for those, figure out how to identify them and smash them when you see them. Please, so thanks for that Amy. Any other public comments that this this evening? Or any public comments received before the meeting? No. We have anyone online who would like to give a public comment. Okay. So that's the end of our public comment period. The next thing is the approval of the September meeting minutes. I wasn't here. But when anyone like to discuss our September meeting minutes. When anyone like to move to approve them? I move to approve it. Thank you. Do we have a second? Second. Thank you, Matt. All those in favor of approving the September meeting minutes, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Right. And opposed. The eyes have it. The September meeting minutes. For the environmental sustainability council are approved. Thank you. So next on our list is our liaison report from Kurt. So he's got a couple things for us this evening. And I'll let you take that away. Thank you, Kurt. I have chat. So the first thing that I've got you take that away. Thank you, Kurt. I hope so. So the first thing that I've got is just an informational item from staff in the planning department. They've submitted a application for a ready set go grant. It comes from the money comes from V. I believe. And it would be to help the city of Falls Church safe routes the school project which involves design and construction of sidewalk missing links located within the Oat Street elementary school walk zone. So I think we're requesting $400,000 for technical assistance to plan and flesh out this project. It's shared on the agenda. If you'd like to read more, otherwise I think we can leave it there. Just an informational item for you all. Any questions? Moving on. Next thing is an invasive species update. We had a question about an invasive species ordinance and if we're going to do anything in relation to that. So Fairfax County has an ordinance for invasive species specifically bamboo for when it grows in other people's properties, neighboring properties. People can take action against that and I think that fine gets levied on them for having it grow into adjacent properties every day every day. Is it $50 per day? Okay. Yeah. Up to $200. Up to $200. So it's a serious fine. And there was interest in bringing that to the city of false church. I asked about it. Let's see. We brought we brought this up, you know, earlier in the spring and I was told that work was being done on it and I haven't heard anything for six months. So I thought it would be worth asking why it. All right. Well, here's here's an update. So we got explored a little bit and talked about between our zoning administrator and our city arborist. But for now, the issue is that we do not have enough staff to enforce an ordinance like this. So there's not been a push to actually get it on the books as an ordinance. And there's no plans to expand the current zoning staff. So the question is who would actually enforce it, whether it be zoning staff or maybe property maintenance staff under urban forestry, which is kind of the main problem. So I think if there's enough interest in having an ordinance like this come about, the problem actually lies in the budget and getting another person either in urban forestry or in zoning to help enforce these things. Okay, so that's totally blocked. Got it. Thank you. Any questions? Our city forestry doesn't want any new responsibility or power. I think he was in support of it because he thinks that bamboo has obvious environmental issues as invasive species. Yes. But there's just not any any room in the in the schedule of all the people in zone and urban forest should get that done. Okay, interesting. Thanks for the update. I don't have any other questions. Okay. Any other questions from anyone here about that? So it would be a $50 a day fine. This is what you proposed. That's what's perfect. That's what it is in a fair price. Up to $200 total. Up to $200 a day. Oh, up to $200 a day. Oh, it's an increasing fine. I don't know the specifics of how it works to pay a fact. I'm sorry. What's what's the relative like risk for the bamboo versus the other invasive species. bamboo is very very hard to remove. So when someone plants a privacy hedge of bamboo and then it grows into parks it's destroying the local fauna and our fauna is animals right so local plants and we've spent the city has spent you know thousand of dollars planting native species of flowers and stuff like that in our parks that are basically being eaten by bamboo. And I think that is very bad. We get, do we get any complaints about this issue though of it spreading into agents and properties? Uh, temperful city property? Probably only from me. I don't know. Okay. But I've seen it in at least two parks in the city have bamboo that's grown from people's yards into our parks and I don't like it. I don't know if Amy has any anything to weigh in on if you'd like. Well, just to echo Kurt that yeah, the problem is we don't have staff to be able to do it and it would have to be done through zoning not through the arborist office because it's on private property. You have to have somebody go inspect and then if they remove the bamboo, you have to go inspect again to make sure they put in the proper. You know plastic or whatever kind of barrier you're asking them to do so it doesn't spread onto other people's property. So it gets a little involved. I think it would be interesting if we could talk to the folks in Fairfax County and find out how it's going for them. You know what kinds of things are having to do if it's becoming a big problem for their staff to work with it because I know they have a lot more bamboo than we do. But that is a concern. And as you know, I've said agnazium over and over again, that urban forestry just doesn't have enough staff. We have one arborist and we have three people on crew. And only one of those persons is a certified arborist, the other two are technicians, and we really could use more expert help to do a number of things. So yeah, we're, I mean, he's supportive of it, definitely as an urban forestry commission, just a matter of how and figuring out how to thread the needle and argue for more staff. Okay. Thank you, Vernon, it's ready for the stat. So it's, I just looked it up, Fairfax County is civil penalty of $50 up to maximum 2000 over the course of a year. There it is. I don't know if that would pay for a new staff person, but I think it, you know, if we, if we can get it done at some point, I think definitely the money, any money that the city earns, that's not a good word. The city receives from fines for that. It should definitely go towards urban foreshare towards the parks to rehabilitate the areas and such. Okay. Any other comments on that before we move on? to be able to take the areas and such. Okay, any other comments on that before we move on? Right. Thank you for the update. Kurt, appreciate it. Do you have any other updates for us this evening? That is it from the liaison report. Great. Then we'll move on to our bike master plan. So we've been working on this for, I don't know how many years the city's been going around on it, but I think it's pretty much done, right? Do you have a list of changes to it? Yeah, so we can look at this document. I've got a few things in this document. So it should be, first of all staff has kind of suggested, recommended that the ESC does a motion to officially support the bike plan. They think that'll help it get through the planning commission as well as council as it's written now. There haven't been major changes since. It was supposed to kind of go through council in September and then get approved, but then we did a change to the process of it and made it a comprehensive plan amendment, rather than just a standalone plan which bumped it back to January. So now there's more time in between now and January obviously, but there should not be any major changes to the plan. So staff thinks that an endorsement of this plan would would help get it through smoothly. In this plan, we've got a big motion official for the year to read if so inclined. And then below here, we've got the updated plan as well as the resolution from the September meeting when they pushed it back to January and changed the procedure of it. So some relevant updates since the September 3rd City Council work session. Most of this is just kind of text changes and just kind of change the language of things and how it's perceived by people that read it. The priority routes have not changed. At least for the the current ones, the three that have been considered and that that walking tours. That's the Southwest street, Northwest street and the connecting schools route. So vision and goals updates the vision and goals to reinforce all ages and abilities and achieving bicycle friendly status by their 2030 report card from lead of American bicycleist referenced in planned documents to help guide implementation future routes all of south east street and north east street between West broad street and park avenue added and indelroad dundry road Virginia Avenue sheriff avenue route connecting West broad street and Oatstreet Elementary School added ebikes line which added to affirming that e-bikes are available through capital bike share, implementation, linewich added, regarding the need for regular maintenance of facilities, linewich added, regarding opportunities to strengthen existing routes, and priority bike routes. The two sets of priority routes have been clearly split in a pendip speed between the FY 2025 to FY 2027 routes and the 28 to 30 routes. Line which are darkened public engagement completed to date and permitted to as part of implementation has been included. So the routes that I mentioned southwest and northwest and connecting schools is FY 25 to 27. So if we go through, there's some updates to the plan here. This is comments being woven into the plan. And then if we get all the way down to the actual plan, it's right here. So it's still very similar to the plan that you all have seen before. That actually carry out need note aim and presented on in February. Right. If we get down here to the priority routes. 39 I think. Here we go. So we've still got East to West pedestrian and bicycle connection between the WNOD trail and the secondary schools, Northwest Street and Southwest Street. And this part's been added. Cost estimates provided include final design, right of way acquisition and construction. Other than that, these have not changed. So we'll stay there. So I can take questions and then other than that, I would recommend that the ESC approves the motion to support the plan. That'll help get it through successfully. But other than that, we can discuss and debate. But I don't think the plan will see many more changes. So that's my recommendation. Before it goes to city council for their vote. Yeah. Is there on their schedule right now? Yeah, it's on their schedule for the end of January. It should be at the end of here. Planning Commission file action on the 15th, January 27th, City Council final consideration. Okay, so this is our last chance to change anything basically. Yes. We're asked for any changes. Yes. So let's open that up for everyone. We've gotten this presented to us several times and I feel like our comments you know have really gone into this especially considering where it was the first time we got the first version presented you know last year so I mean personally I would have liked things to be slightly more ambitious in terms of the timeline and how much money it sets aside for certain things. There's also a lot of on-street facilities. And I think that we should have more protected bike lanes, not sharrows. So, you know, that's still, I think, is a little bit unclear to me, you know, how much on street facility, you know, means protected bike lane. I intend to ask everyone this evening to read the motion and endorse it. I think this is basically our last chance if we have any final feedback though. If we want to say, hey, we should do it by this year instead of 2030 or any other final comments, we can add that to our endorsement. But yeah, so basically last chance to weigh in here. Any other comments from anyone else on Bike Master Plan before I move to endorse it? Yeah, I would just say that it looks like some of the comments from the falls clause, the condominium, do not make it in unless I'm not seeing where those comments come from, but there were people that did send a petition to the City Council. Is that in the document? And that's not from us do not think we have public comments. We've got This is city council CACC ESC in this list And we can do a quick search for public comment So I'm I'm pretty sure the little the cut through the woods behind the condominiums you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. 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I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm going to go ahead and do that. Do it. On November 17th, the Village Preservation and Improvement Society is having their full membership meeting and we're going to have a panel on protecting and expanding our tree canopy and we'll have Heidi Bonne von from the Regional Tree, Tree Canopy subcommittee of the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments and we'll also have Mary Glass who is with the Arlington Tree Connection. We'll be speaking about, you know, their hide is going to talk from the regional level and Mary is going to talk about what a community group is doing. So everyone is welcome to come to that meeting. It will be at 3 p.m. and it's going to be held at the social hall of the false church on East Fairfax Street. And I'll know over 18th the next day, maybe some of the students might also chime in on here, they're going to be having, Meridian High School is going to be having the overall festival. And as I understand it, there may be goats to be cleaning out the back section. We had sheep a couple of months ago. Maybe there'll be goats. I don't know, I can't promise, but it could be fun. And then finally, I wanted to raise to you all. I don't know if you heard about it, but on October 6th, the climate crisis forum had a, their forum was on green schools for sustainable communities. And it was held at Meridian. It was on Sunday. I did not really know about it. The Faith Alliance for Climate Solutions and other community partners were part of that. They had the superintendents from the city of all school schools along with Arlington schools and Fairfax County and so forth. That was recorded. If you didn't get a chance to go, I can happily send you all the link to that. It was something I'm sorry that I missed. I don't know if any of you students got a chance to go to that, but it sounded pretty interesting and in our real house. I was there. Were you there? Okay, good. Good. So I just want to let everyone of that, that that happened and that there is and recording of it if you want to, if you want to know about it. Thank you. Great. Thank you so much, Amy. Since they're talking about events this Saturday, if anybody missed the electrification showcase, it was in City of Falls Church a couple months ago. There's going to be another one, but it's in Alexandria. So anybody who's willing to travel and wants to see it an all-electric home, the CKAN, the Chesapeake Climate Action Network, is hosting that event. So good opportunity. Where can we learn more? It's the Chesapeake Climate Action Network website. Okay. You could also go to goelectricdnv.org. There's a event section that has information on it as well. It links to the CTN's website. All right, it's very good. Any other final announcements? Okay, then I adjourn this meeting of the ESC. Thank you so much for coming everyone. Really appreciate y'all joining us. Have a great evening. Like I should have a bell or something at the end, you know, yeah, they don't give me one of those. Not fair.