Mayor Shelton. President. Vice Mayor Hay. President. Commissioner Cruz. Zapsent. Commissioner Turkin. President. Commissioner Callie. Here. Mayor, you have a form. Thank you, Mailey. Our invocation tonight will be by Vice Mayor Hay followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Turkin. Let's all stand for the invocation and Pledge of Allegiance. Heavenly Father, we come before you with great for hearts and thank you for another opportunity to serve this great city of Boynton Beach. We acknowledge your presence. We acknowledge your wisdom, justice, and mercy. As we ask for your presence in this meeting here tonight, be in the center of every decision that we make. Lord bless our city leaders with discernment, patience, and integrity as we make decision that impact our community. Let their decision, let our decision be guided by fairness and unity and a shared commitment to the well-being of all our residents. Grant us wisdom to seek the best for every neighborhood, every family, and every individual in this great city. We also lift up those who serve our community, our first responders, our educators, business owners, and all who make Boynton Beach a thriving and compassionate place to live. May your presence rest upon our city and may we work together in harmony and respect. Lord, let justice, kindness and humility be the foundation of all of our work here tonight. We ask all of this in the mighty name of Jesus, the Christ we do pray and that's it to the left with Commissioner Turkin. If you have any additional del are there. The commissioners are there. The commissioners are there. The commissioners are there. The only thing is just a Refresh from our agenda workshop in regards to the joint meeting with the CRA, the city attorney advise that bring this up. Again in this forum, along with the code overhaul. And then I do have a couple update requests from staff. Regarding the town square investigation, I'd like to know where we're at with that and when that's going to come before us. And then also where we're at in compliance with the state government in reference to 287G. I think we need to get in compliance with that. Last thing we want is to at least any state or federal funding for grants. And so, you know, wanna make sure that we're doing, we're getting ahead of this. The other thing is NLC, the conference, the annual conference in November. I just want to get a consensus from my colleagues that we can start booking that registration. I think early bird isn't May, so I want to make sure that we're not waiting too late for those who want to go. And then I just want to say thank you to Andrew and Adam for meeting with the Save Andrews Committee today with him. I appreciate you guys taking the lead on that and bringing everyone to the table that way there's no loss in communication. Thank you. Thank you and Commissioner Kelly. Thank you. Commissioner Truggan, I support all the things that you said. So I don't know if staff has enough information to put that on or if we need to get a consensus as far as what the items are that you're wanting to add to future. It looks like Sean. With regards to today's agenda, the request for the joint meeting is on the agenda, the regular agenda as F. We are working, I'm working with the police chief on the mutual aid agreement and we should have an update on that at the next commission meeting on April 15th. I'm sorry, with regard to the town square, unfortunately we've had to delay coming out with the report because we still are in litigation with them and we just had our sixth motion to dismiss with E2L, correct? They appealed the final order of dismissal. So at this time we're having to wait before Pam can come. Pam is done, but we need to hold that right now because of the pending litigation. Was there another item? I'm sorry, Commissioner Tercann that you had, that I didn't address? No, just the joint. Yeah, that's on today's agenda. Okay, thank you. If there's anything else, I believe. Thank you. It's on today's agenda. It is. It's number F under on the regular agenda. Oh, perfect. And then you wanted to talk about NLC. Do you want to talk about that today? Or do we now talk about that on April 15th? Yeah, I think it's a real quick conversation today. I know the early bird is in May, so I don't know what the next agenda looks like. I don't want to get Inundated so if you guys are okay with it, we can talk about it today. That way staff's prepared to move forward Based on consensus. So just add it to 10 maybe to 10G make it 10G to have a discussion on probably that in FLC is probably or yeah FLC is not a bad conversation I have to with those two conferences. Okay. The mayor that I would like to because I have because Dr. Fuller is here from going to be high school I wanted to see if we can move up five F which is my request for community support funds to before public comment. Maybe 3E just so that to not have them sit through most of the meeting that would be my request if it's okay with the rest of the board. Find with me. No objection to my part. Thank you. So then three E will be the community support funds right before public audience. Thank you. That was my only request. Thank you. I'm going to open it before public audience. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm Andrew Mack for attending last night's community meeting. It was an awesome turnout and a lot of interest and House Bill 991 and Senate Bill 1224., we spent a lot of time on that last night. And I'm interested and we need to make sure we address that and we will. I do want to say kudos to the other night, where was that Friday night, Saturday, we had the marketing, the F there in the park, that was tremendous. I didn't buy as much as the rest of the commissioners, but they did have a lot for sale, and it was some really good items. So So that's all I have other than what's already been mentioned. Okay. If there's nothing else, maybe we have a motion to approve the agenda. Thanks for commission or advice Mayor Haley gave the first and gave the second okay moved to approve the agenda as amended I'm online Commissioner Cruz is online oh, okay If we could just let the riff record reflect, Commissioner Cruz will be able to participate in discussion. However, she will not be able to vote today online, but she will be able to deliberate and do all of those things. And she's allowed to add comment. All of those things, just not any formal votes. Okay. So Commissioner Cruz, do you have any additions, bellicions or corrections? I do not matter, thank you. So we're good. Okay, we don't have to do that one again. Okay, motion passes unanimously. We move on to informational items by the members of the city commissioner. Let's begin on the right with Vice Mayor Hay. No, I just stated the activity that the CRA put on was with outstanding and the community meeting that we had. So that's it for me. Okay. Mayor, I do not have any informational items. Thank you. Commissioner Tercan. No, good, thank you, Mayor. Okay, moving on. The next item is an update on the dredging project at Harvey Oyer Park. Is there a staff member that will begin the update? You want to introduce? Okay. Good evening, everybody. Good evening. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, staff and members of the public. So today with us from Palm Beach County, we have Andy Studd. I this here. Stute. Stute. And he will be talking to us a little bit about the dredging project that should be taking part beginning hopefully later this month here. So he has some items that he'll be sharing with us up on the screens as well as he can answer a couple questions for you guys too if you have any. All right, wonderful. Good evening, Mayor commissioners. Appreciate you having me here. I will try to be as brief as possible with this presentation, so give some time for questions at the end. My name is Andy Stewart. I manage the county's coastal resources program, so that's everything from beaches and inlets to dunes. The county manages a number of those projects directly. We also coordinate with other municipalities that manage their own projects. We also manage the South Lake Worth inlet as it's title up there on your screen also known as the Boyton Inlet. I'll defer to you folks and call the Boyton Inlet for this evening. A critical resource here in South County, South Central County, but critical for the county as well. The county took over management of this inlet in 1996 when the South Lake Worth inlet district was dissolved by the governor. So ever since then, we've had a hand in everything to do with judging maintenance of the inlet structures in the project south of the Ocean Ridge Shore Protection project. That photo up there, it gives a good description of exactly what this project is about. Do we have a presentation or just that? Just this one here. Okay. All right. I'm going off for presentation. I gave last week to your Parks Advisory Committee. But just to give you a quick synopsis of what this project is about. The inlet is a unnatural inlet. It's a man-made inlet that has structures that interrupt the natural flow of sand from north to south along the coastline. Because of that interruption and empowerment of sand, every so often we have to go in the interior areas of the flood show and you can see it up there on that aerial. The sand will be captured by the inlet and accrete in the flood show areas. That's a problem for for navigation for the boats that want to use that area. It's a problem for the cities or park boat ramp. It's also a problem for down-drift beaches, including Boiton Beach Ocean Front Park and Ocean Ridge's Beach is south of the inlet. So in order to correct that interruption that this inlet has, we do regular maintenance stretching. We also operate to San transfer plant, it's very unique. It's the oldest one operating of its kind in the world, installed in 1937 originally. That continuously transferred. We also operate a sand transfer plant. It's very unique. It's the oldest one operating of its kind in the world, installed in 1937 originally. That continuously transfers sand across the inlet to try to mimic that natural flow. But we still can't capture all of it. So there's still sand that's captured in the interior of the shoal areas. So we dredge the interior of the shoal areas. We have a sand trap that's immediately adjacent to the inlet. into the inlet. We also typically when we dredge that sand trap will partner with the Florida Inland Navigation District that manages the Intercostal waterway, dredge their channel, and we'll also partner with the city as we have the past couple times to dredge the Oyer Park Channel to provide navigational access to the boat ramp, but it also returns that good beach sand back into the system, rather than having a deficit long term. As I mentioned the last couple times we've done this project. We've combined forces and dredged with the county managing the contract and placing the material from all these separate areas on the beach south of the inlet. Each of those permitting processes were a one time job. The regulators were only allowing us to do that once and then seek approval the next time. So this time around we saw approval for a long term permit. This time we've got about a 15 year permit where we can go out multiple times within that time period and Dredge as needed the city's channel and our sand trap. So look forward to being partners over the long term on this. The city was gracious enough to grant the county an easement in 2020 to access the beach through the Boing Beach Ocean Front Park area. That is our primary beach access to get bulldozers and equipment on the beach. But this isn't that large stretch project that you'll see every six to eight years that really widens the beach. This is more of a smaller project. We're adding the bid volume was about 55,000 cubic yards, but our survey volumes indicate that's gone up. be dredging about 63,000 cubic yards from the interior show areas. We'll be adding it below the water line, but it'll add to the near shore system and strengthen the beach over the near term. And then we're also planning a follow on project this coming winter in conjunction with the Army Corps of Engineers to restore storm damages where we'll be placing about half a million cubic yards from an offshore bar source. That's the one that will really widen the beach and protect us from future storm events, both for Boynton Beach Ocean Front Park and about a mile south of the inlet. So this project, you know, I was struck last week talking to your Parks Advisory Committee and seeing your city logo and your America's gateway to the Gulf Stream. It's obviously critical for the city to maintain access from the boat ramp directly out point in inlet but it's also critical for all the other stakeholders to facilitate this regular maintenance stretching. It's something that happens at inlets across south east Florida when you have an inlet even if it's natural in order to get a boat out that inlet you're going to have to dredge it occasionally. This inlet is largely maintained in the throat of the inlet by velocities of currents, but the adjacent area is still shawl. We've got some cross sections and a number of exhibits, but the bottom line is this is an important project for the region, and it involves close coordination with your staff because of the potential impacts to Oyer Park. We have discussed it with city staff and it sounds like the best way forward is to close the boat ramp for a short period of time while we're dredging the western part of the Oyer Park boat channel. When we stick a dredge in that small channel area, it's not going to be safe to navigate around it. So the city will be coordinating a temporary short-term closure of the ramp towards the end of this dredging project. That will be the last component that we complete because it's the skinniest, narrowest area to get in with our dredge. We're looking at a timeline of happening. That channel dredging for the Oyer Park area starting likely closer to the 21st of this month We've been ballparking starting between the 14th and the 21st But given the dredge start up just this morning Judging the intercostal waterway. We've got a couple weeks of dredging before we get to that city channel And then we expect it shouldn't take more than one to two week stops We're hopeful for a week or less dredging the city channel area and then we'll have it cleared out for the next couple of years presumably. It's a $1.9 million project as it sits now and that's whether in conditions dependent. So we're always have to be flexible with these understanding that the conditions are very dynamic out there. I do want to just thank city staff. They've been fantastic to work with and helping us facilitate this. And obviously the county is a willing partner and available to update you at any time throughout the course of this. I'll take any questions that you have. I don't know if you have anything else to add Fabian, but that's the long and short of it. Last time the project was dredged was 2013 to give you an idea it's been about 12 years and prior to that was 2008 and then 2001. So it's conditions dependent. As we get sand in the inlet, with various storms, it increases our need to dredge. Any questions, Commissioner Tarkin? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you again for the presentation. Fabian, Andrew. Thanks for being on top of this Couple questions with So you said the last time this was dredge was 2013 how how can we ensure we don't wait that long or Hold each other accountable and make sure it doesn't take that long you know, there's a lot of And when I'm speaking I'm speaking in reference to a Harvey, oh airboat ran There's a lot of recreationally used there, but also a lot of commercial use, a lot of, and when I'm speaking, I'm speaking in reference to Harvey O'Air boat rant, there's a lot of recreation we use there, but also a lot of commercial use, a lot of people's businesses that rely on that boat rant, you know, that allow them to put food on the table for their families. So what can we do as a city or as a body, you know, or collaboratively with the county to ensure we don't have this large of the lapse again. Certainly. And that's something that we kind of baked into this permitting process. I mentioned before that the last couple of times we... to ensure we don't have this large of the labs again. Certainly. And that's something that we kind of baked into this permitting process. I mentioned before that the last couple of times we did this, the regulatory agencies only allowed us a one-time authorization to add the oil park boat channel to this permit that we have. This time around we included it for the longer term. So whether we're going to be out there again to judge the sand trap on a more regular basis or we can assign the permit to the city so you can facilitate your own dredging of that sand trap or that boat channel. Sorry. Typically by state rule that beach compatible material is required to go out to the beach, which is, you know, makes more sense to do it with the larger project. But with that smaller western channel area we have talked with the state. There would likely be an exemption if we were able to and it beneficially reuse it on a habitat restoration project in the logon. So we have thought about that. That's actually one of the things that lengthen this permitting Process as well. We started in 2019 submitted permit apps in 2020 that took us A little over three and a half years to get permits. Partially because we're adding that long term component but Mostly because with this dredging event we added the western part of that, we're part channel, that we know it's been dredging the past, this boat ramp's been active for many decades, but we couldn't find a record of it with the Army Corps of Engineers or with the state. So since there wasn't a record, it had to be considered new dredging, we had to go through the mitigation process. Luckily the county had some existing mitigation in place at our Bryant Park Restoration Project up in Lake Worth. We were able to use that, but mitigation is a cumbersome process. So it took a little bit longer than we'd like, but now we have that permit in place for a longer term. We've got the mitigation in place to dredge that western channel area that we haven't dredged in a number of decades. so we're hopeful that this project will work out and it'll be smoother in the long term. Awesome, I appreciate that. The other thing is, so we have a firefighter fishing tournament with the local IAFF benevolent on April 26th. And so I think they've already pulled permits with the city and there's a lot of people registered. We plan on winning it again, I think, for the mystery fish. But I just want to make sure that, I think you mentioned you're starting the Dredging Park project between the 14th and the 21st, is that at the Oyer site, or is that just this project? That will be the Oyer site. So we started the project late this morning. The Dredge showed up on Saturday. They were delayed on the west coast, so we would have hoped to have been wrapping up or on this time, but they were delayed with storm events on the west coast over the last season additional Dredge quantities. So they're starting a little bit later than anticipated. I would be hopeful that we'll be done by the 26th, but I can't provide any guarantees. And the issue is, you know, the time is now to get this project done. We, you know, we can't quite stop. So we'll be in close court. by the 26th, but I can't provide any guarantees. And the issue is, you know, the time is now to get this project done. We can't quite stop. So we'll be in close coordination with your staff. I'm timing. It's really going to take us a week or two to iron out what our production is and how we're going to back up into the end of the month in terms of dredging. I had mentioned we have to dredge that. we were part channel component last because that's the skinniest component that we have to, we're actually having a separate smaller dredge brought in to sneak into that back area because it's so narrow. So you know long story short I'm hopeful we can have it done by then I can't promise but we'll be in close coordination. even if we can't. We'll talk with the contractor and see if there's a possibility of getting boats around the dredge. We just want to make sure that all the safety issues are accounted for. And that the success of this very occasional long-term project is an impacted, you know. The tough part about dredging is you're always impacting somebody. It's never a good time of year and we always have to do it during winter to avoid sea turtle nesting season. So usually I'm getting phone calls on Christmas Eve about why are you operating. We operate 24-7 because of the cost involved with the project but I can't provide any guarantees on the 26th but we'll do our best to work with the contractor and have it done by then and we will keep your staff updated hopefully the next week or two We'll have a better idea. Awesome. Thank you. So I guess for staff, maybe we just keep that communication close with the unions and the benevolent. That's all thank you so much for coming by and doing this. Thank you. Certainly. Any other questions? No. Commissioner Turkin talked about it. I just, I can't stress enough how, I mean, I, we know this project is super important. We know we really need this. I feel like we, I know in the back, in behind the scenes, everyone knew what was going on. But I don't think that staff even knew of the potential calendar conflict until I brought it up Thursday. So I know this is a really important project, but I do wish that we had a little bit more coordination with, you know, I'm making sure that, you know, this is, it's not just a fishing tournament for our fire guys. This is one of their fundraisers that they do so that they can go out and do what they do in the community. And so I would be really, I just would be by side myself if we're the reasons why they would have to cancel or postpone their fishing turnmots. So it's frustrating to me. I understand this is very important and it's much needed and it's been going on for a really long time. But because of that, there should have been some a little bit better planning on the back end. So those are my frustrations. I'm glad to hear that it's happening and we do need it and hopefully this will start a more scheduled plan moving forward with this project. But those are my concerns and I really want to make sure that staff is, you know, we really, we don't have the luxury and boi in beach of having some alternative place where we can have this fishing tournament. I mean, the Harvey or Park is our hub. It's our only little boat ramp that has access to the intercoastal. So I, you know, I'm just asking staff to please, like, be mindful and talk me about this on a daily basis so that the men who have, and women who have spent the last year planning for this fishing tournament, that they're not finding out on April 26th or April 25th that they can't do what they've planned for an entire year. So imagine a county event, somebody's been planning it an entire year and all of a sudden some other county department comes in, swoops in, says, oops, sorry, you can't, sorry for all your time and effort. So it's frustrating to me to learn about this. I'm excited it's happening, it's needed, but it's frustrating. So those are my two cents. So I will yield at this point thank you. Thanks Mayor Haye. Yes thank you first of all for coming by to give us the update just curious on some questions that is there a particular depth and width that you're trying to to maintain for the boats. For the Oyer Park Channel? Yeah, because I noticed there's some shrubbery out there. Are they going to continue to remain there? Are you going to have to remove those? Any of the upland shrubbery will stay in place. This is solely in the water project. So there were some submerged aquatic vegetation, and that was part of the mitigation in order to dredge in those areas, and it was very sparse, but in order to dredge those areas, we have to replicate it before we can even go out and dredge. So that was the lengthy permanent component, but we won't be impacting any upland structures. It'll be very similar just about the same as the last stretch project in 2013. Good. Good. Where's the the Dredge? The sand being relocated to. Where do you put that? So the relocation point starts I believe it's about 2,000 feet south of the inlet, below mean low water. So if you see the rock groins out there at Ocean Island Park that kind of maintain the stabilization of the beach immediately south of the inlet, it's about two to three times as far as that. So if you look at the inlet can, you can see the bulldozer down there. But effectively, it's north of Ocean Hammock Park, the counties park, and it's well north at the Boy of Boiton Beach Ocean Front Park we don't expect to place enough material to get in front of Boiton Beach Ocean Front Park so it should have a very minimal impact on the city's park operations other than we use the very northern part of that park property to access the beach. Can can any of that materially be used for beach renourishment? That's That's ostensibly what we're doing. This permit requires us because of the, you know, this material has been sitting or accumulating over 12 years. So it's had time to sort itself. So it's not quite perfect for beach placement where the turtles will use it directly, but we're putting it below mean low water. So it's going to be in that system. It's going to be added to the beach during natural processes but we're not adding it directly to the dry beach. So that'll be that follow-on project next winter that we'll be doing with the Army Corps of Engineers that will place an order of magnitude more material, about 500,000 cubic cards. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Cruz, do you have any questions or comments? Oh do not thank you so much. Okay. No, I don't. You guys asked him. I was worried about the event on the 26th. Right. Thank you. Thank you folks. I appreciate the opportunity. Okay. Next is an announcement for pre-Hercane Prep and Vegetation Amnesty week. Hurricane season begins June 1st and the Solid Waste Division is urging residents to do their part by conducting tree trimming early in preparation for hurricane season. The city will be having Hurricane vegetation amnesty week that runs May 5th to May 9th, 2025. Residents may place more than the three cubic yards of vegetation, only out for pickup on their scheduled bulk day during that week fees will be waived during amnesty week only and all guidelines must be followed for pickup. Okay. And moving on for the announcement for art and autism expo. The city of point and beaches partnering with FAU Center for Autism and Related Disabilities for the 5th Annual Art and Autism Expo. Where art will be displayed throughout April in the Arts and Cultural Center at 125 East Ocean Avenue. There will be a special gallery opening evening from 5 to 7.30 p.m. on Tuesday, April 8 during which attendees can see performances, meet artists, enjoy treats from the Chocolate Spectrum and make candles with sensibility candles. The next item is presented for 2024 year end crime report and I believe Chief DeGio will be presenting this. Good evening mayor, Vice Mayor Commissioners. Peter present the 2024 year in crime report. In case you're wondering why are we in April and we're talking about year and of 2024, as we wait, the FDLE is about three months behind to verify our crime data. So this is the verified information that we submit through what we call fibers and fibers and it's FDLE confirmed. So it's usually about a quarter behind. So some of the highlights on our first slide. You'll see that in our violent crime section, we had a reduction of 14% of violent crime. One of the things I want to highlight is in our homicide category. Not only do we have a reduction, we also had 100% clearance rates. And that's two years in a row that we've had 100% clearance rate on homicides. We also have a high level clearance rates, which is above the national average on the Agassolum battery. You'll see in the sexual battery that we had 31 total, we only had two arrests. So just some clarification on why the others are not arrested. Six have active warrants. We have 16 uncooperative, whether it's the refusal to prosecute or we had victims just refusing to cooperate with detectives in the investigation. We have four cases still active and we had one that was expires statute of limitations. If we move to the middle category we'll see that we have a reduction of our property crime by 5%. And our clearance rate is 19%. Throughout all our categories on our property crime, which is above the clearance rate nationally for property crime. And it's just a fantastic job when it comes to retail theft. I feel like a lot of other agencies don't necessarily are very proactive at retail theft as we are here in Boyddon, and where we have about 35% clearance rate on our retail thefts. Sometimes when you do, when you are proactive and you make a lot of arrests, the crime rate will go out because you are self-reporting, but even still we saw a reduction. I also think it's really important, even though we're talking about retail theft is by being out there and being available to our businesses, we're keeping them here in the city They're not necessarily losing a lot when it comes to their They're their their thefts so we've been keeping our businesses in place here I know there's other cities and throughout the country that are not even proactive when it comes to and I'm not even Found complaints on it. So I feel like in boy we have a great relationship with our retail community And you can see it by the cooperation we get from our LPO and our officers that we have had 35% clearance right now. The last box is really more of an indication of the fact that you guys have supported the police department with the staffing. We have more officers down the road doing more traffic stops, more FIRs, more arrests. We have more traffic. You'll see there's more citations when it comes to moon violations and non-moving violations. The one big number in there you'll see is the field interview reports. I'm sure you're wondering why we had such a large increase, 112 percent increase. That's a testament to the new RMS and Catsis in Mark 43. That was something that the commission supported us about a year and a half ago. And it allows the office to be more efficient out there. And you'll see that that number will start to increase even as we go into the next year as well. And if you look the last box is calls for service. We're averaging the same that we did last year. There was a slight reduction. We did have a new program last year called the Desk Officer program that should reduce some of our calls for service and allow our offices to be available for more of the high priority calls. And as this system starts to run its paces, you'll see that probably next year we'll probably have a slight reduction as well. Then the average time is percentage reductions, 20% of the calls that desk officer can be picking up, which is a great thing is that these are like low profile, non-priority calls like a loss wallet or a loss passport, things that require case numbers to be replaced through insurance companies. We're not tying officers up anymore on those calls. They're able to do them online. It's very convenient also for our complainants as well. This is just another version of our calls for service. Unless there's a question I'm going to skip to the next slide. As far as our violent crime, no only do we have a good year compared to last year, we also had a really great year compared to the past five years. We've had seen that the lowest of our crime instances in volleyball crime since 2020 with the exception of sexual battery, which has been the lowest it has been in four years. That's once again a testament to the hard work or detectives we're doing. The fact that we have officers out there being more proactive. And then we'll go to the next slide, which is our nonviolent. I put a little footnote on there about what our percentage is as relates to the national average when it comes to clearance rates. National average is 13.9%. We're at 19%. The one increase we did have is the burglaries. We can attribute that in the early part of the year we had a prolific burglar who was a juvenile that was unfortunately getting released by the juvenile assessment center back into our community committing the crimes. And that individual was responsible for numerous burglaries, specifically auto burglararies. But our detectives had put numerous cases on that individual and so far, I believe they're either relocated or they're still in the assessment center or they're serving sometime in jail. And this is a more a snapshot of our proactive. We got a total of arrests. You'll see there's an increase. The year before from 2023 to 2024, we actually had an increase of over 800 more arrests. This year we had an increase of 2%. Once again, it just shows that the officers are out there. They're being efficient. They're being effective. They're being proactive. They're being visible. And one last thing I just wanted to put out there, just in the first quarter of this year, and you saw how great our numbers were from 2023 to 2024. Just in this first quarter of this year we have a reduction of 20% violent crime and a 12% reduction in property crime so we're still trending in the right direction. No I think thank And, you know, thanks to the police department, this body, you know, a few years ago, we developed a strategic plan and the first priority was public safety. You know, here we are three years later and here are the direct results of investing in our police department, investing in the safety of the city. I don't have too many questions. I do want to know the homing in, this is something that Adam had shared with me, had a grant theft like five years in a row, maybe even longer. And for the first time, they didn't have a stolen car. Last two years, there hasn't been a homicide there. And prior to that, there was some form of violent crime. And that is a direct reflection of economic development and how growing economically in public safety go hand in hand, right? And so I think partnering with the private sector and that a nuisance abatement program over there, I think was a huge contributor to getting a good player in and the proof is in the data, right? That used to be a hot spot of crime, you know, as long as I've lived in the city and, you know, probably decades before then and, you know, now you have a boutique, you know, hotel developer there that they're almost finished with and know homicides, right? So I think that's a story to tell that as we grow effectively as the city that we're proactive in investing in our local economy and our police department, right? I think for the first time and the city's history we're fully staffed. We've filled our vacancies, we don't have any openings and you know that's a you know that's a testament from us here on the dius, our city staff, chief to Giulio, and every hardworking man and woman in that police department. So thank you guys so much. We're definitely trunning in the right direction and getting the services that we deserve as a city and the safety. That's a right for everyone. So thank you. I do have one question. Yes. When it comes to the sexual assaults and harassment, does the city have a relationship with Abda? The aid for violence and domestic abuse or they called in at the time and that's an opportunity for them to help. It is, yes. Okay. We have a victim advocate, Barbie Rodriguez, and she's fantastic with coordinating, especially when it comes to domestic violence and sexual assaults. They do a fantastic job also using the county resources as well. Okay, thank you. Nice to meet you, hey. Yes, Chief, Julia, would you just comment on how had the community police engagement changed this year? You want to know like the specific events or the specific initiatives or how it relates to how we see crime? I don't see the crimes. Well I think one of the things and I don necessarily, we can't necessarily quantify it, but we do feel like when you do have the relationships, whether it's the cookout with a cop or a CRA policing unit, is that we're encouraging people to work with the police, we're encouraging people to report certain crimes. And I think that's the important part. Understanding what are issues and our concerns are in the neighborhood, we can't do that without the outreach. Understanding what some of the issues may be in the community, like we have at some of our parks, one specifically, just hearing from the community, knowing what the needs. We look at crime a lot of times through the data lens. And we're trying to put our resources where those specific crimes are happening. But we don't necessarily, we don't hear from a community that we're having issues with speeding on this block or drug dealing on that block because it's not being illuminated through crime stats. We wouldn't know that to hit those areas and to address those community needs. So without the outreach, we're just going to rely on data. We may not necessarily make our community feel safe because we're not addressing the needs that the community has. So I think the community policing outreach perspective and whether it comes from our community response team, which was in one of our new community teams we put together, which is a citywide. We have our CRA policing unit, which has the same philosophy. It's all quality of life driven by community complaints, which is in the CRA district. And we do have our officers. We changed the way we patrol. We added more zones out there so we didn't have large zones. We have smaller areas where we can do more patrolling. I just feel like those initiatives have allowed us to have the better relationships and to hear what some of the community needs and concerns are. OK. Would you also comment, Chief, on how the residents can stay informed and involve and make them want to be just safe for place? Well, I think, you know, part of the, like I mentioned, about the community outreach programs, is a lot of times we had coffee with a cop. It's a great opportunity for us to have those one-on-ones with community members and when we do advertise these things whether it's Cook Out with a cop which we usually get a tremendous response from our community. Those are the times where we can have those conversations you know and we also have the desk officer program which is an online service provider that you can submit your complaints on there your tips you want to register your bike on. We have a lot of crime prevention tools. If you want to enter into a trespass. So we're trying to be accessible to everybody in the community. And some people aren't very tech savvy. So we do provide those opportunities when it comes to our crime prevention team going out there. And like I said, the events are really good because that's where we're trying to. We have that one place that we're going to be here and we have this central location where we can meet people and exchange some of the concerns. And I feel like some of the great conversations we have with our community is at these events, especially Koch out of the cop. I have probably the greatest conversations throughout the year during that event. I also think they feel the police are, because it's a community event, people are more approachable and more willing to say that some of the things that they would not necessarily want to call the non-emergency or come to the police department, they see us out there on the community and we can have these real conversations. Thank you, Chief. Got it. Thank you. Mayor. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Chief. I'm glad that you mentioned and brought to view the clearance rate. I think it's important that we highlight that we know crime happens everywhere, but when we can clear it and solve the case, I think that it just shows how hard everyone is working as a team to really push it forward. And you briefly just said one, but what, if what are some initiatives that have, that you are going to try and implement in the next year, based on this data to try and even further, you know, bridge that gap. Are there any new initiatives or new things that you're wanting to try to try and make that even, you know, our rates even better? Are we talking about more from like the crime prevention perspective or from some of our crime tools like our real-time crime center? I think one of the biggest things that I feel that really helps reduce crime is the visibility of police officers. And I appreciate the commission's support over the past couple of years of getting the officers out there. And obviously our staff on recruiting. Right now it's a difficult time to recruit and retain officers. And we do a fantastic job. You mentioned that we are close to fully staff. We always balance one or two here and there. But in my world, having one or two vacancies is essentially being fully staffed and we do have people retiring so it does change. That's the biggest thing is visibility and just being out there and being present. But you mentioned the clearance rates. I think the clearance rates are actually what stands out most on here. Because as much as we like to say, as we can do our best to prevent crime by being visible, a lot of times there's a lot of elements and circumstances are outside of our control that crime does have happened. So it's not exactly what actually happened. How do you respond to it? And seeing the clearance rates so high shows us that we are responding in the right way. We have the right tools in place and the right detectives and officers in place as well to address this and keep our community safe. Yeah, and I think one of the things, chief, that I think I think even nationwide that has helped a lot of police departments is the kind of integration and utilizing ring cameras and people's personal cameras. cameras and I know I believe that that has really assisted our police department into that. How is that a program that you're actively utilizing? And is there a way that residents who want to, maybe want to assist, but maybe don't want to you know be that Assisting but you know can can share that I believe there's a even a nation-wide Program but do we have a city wide program where residents can participate in that and share that ring data That's that's a great point because I did miss that that's kind of part of the real-time crime center is having a camera registry Program which we do have and we did change from a program called Command Central Aware that predated me and then we have pivoted just recently over to Flock OS and it has an element in there about registering cameras. So if it's twofold you can register your camera where we have the ability as long as it integrates withTCC, real-time crime center, where we can actually view it. The other part of it is just registering your camera. So when we do go out on a crime scene and we pull up the map, we can see whose house has a camera. It doesn't have to be a ring camera. It could be any camera. The ring is great too because ring we can get access, along with a sign that permissions that we can get access to their footage. And we do have that relationship with ring through crime prevention. Great, great, thank you. Thank you. Commission. As long as they sign the permissions that we can get access to their footage and we do have that relationship with rain through crime prevention Great great. Thank you Thank you Commissioner Cruz do you have any comments online? Thank you mayor. Um, no, I do want to give thanks to the chief and the entire police department I apologize my voices and so great, so I'm just gonna keep it a bit quiet Understand. Thank you so much chief Thank you all for your support. If it wasn't for the personnel and the resources and the support of the City Manager's Office, you know, the results may be different. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Now we are moving on to the community support funds. Yes. We have a request for community support funds from Commissioner Kelly to Operation ConorShare for 500. May we have a motion to approve this request? So move second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes unanimously. Commissioner Turk had moved to approve community support funds to Operation Conor Shere from Commissioner Kelly in the amount of 500. and vice mayor Hayes second in the motion. So the motion has passed unanimous. 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But I did want to share, Operation Conor Share was a not for profit that was actually created by an eight year old boy. He's a resident of our city, he's now in college. But he started out Operation Conor Share when he was just a boy and it became a homeless outreach. They would make Thanksgiving dinners. They and their friends and everything would gather the funds and the resources and they would feed the homeless. It has evolved into many different annual events and programs. This one in particular, they're doing Easter baskets for children in local hospitals and also goody bags for elderly and nursing homes. So he is an amazing college boy, young man now. But I've known him since he was a baby and his mom and they're great people in our community. They live in our city. And so I just wanted to push that out there that if there's anyone in the community looking for something to donate or to get involved in, they have a website, they're very involved in the community, so just threw that out there. And then also my second community support funds are for Point Beach High School. Dr. Fuller is here, I asked him if he would share a couple of minutes with us. I went recently and did an update tour with him of the high school and he was, we went to all the aerospace classrooms and his teachers were telling me about this summer. I'll let him kind of share a little bit more about it, but two of their teams are competing this summer in a national competition, and they struggle with funding and looking for funding. And so I was happy to support Point Beach High School and they're, they're not a goal in air space program. So Dr. Fuller, if you would just take a few minutes to explain this program, I would greatly appreciate it. Well, good evening and congratulations, Mayor Shelton, on the road members of the commission and fellow Boynt Beach residents. First of all, let me introduce myself. I'm honored to serve as the principal of Boy and Beach Community High School. Almost two years in, my predecessor is now my boss, just in case anyone's wondering. But I got to start by thanking you guys. First of all, in 23, you gifted us with a $100,000 grant, which has been extremely transformative to some of the things we've accomplished in the last year, so a point high. For the first time since COVID, we've been able to go one-to-one with technology and your support has actually benefited our seniors the most. We've been able to move our graduation rate up to a 91% with just one year of work and that's just piggybacking off of the funds that were granted to us. Beyond academics in this past year, we've been able to partner with the city, meeting with Mr. Mack quite a bit actually, but we've been able to host numerous events. One of them actually first responder appreciation night where we were there, celebrating our partnership with police as well as fire. And I can say as far as the community outreach our relationship with the Boy and Beach police is outstanding. Not only are we provided with a couple of officers there is a day and they're there building relationships with our students with us as a staff and then of course me being a community member. I happen to run into them all the time, not because they're stopping me for speeding or anything, but at the different events. We participated in the tree lighting. The parade, we were very honored to participate in Pirate Fest this year, all with the goal of just connecting to the city. So today just highlighting our Aerospace Science Academy. After dominating and regional competition they have actually been invited to an international competition which will be held at the University of Maryland at the end of May beginning of June. Both our A and B teams have won both first and second place. What's more alarming is our first place winners are actually our underclassmen. So the future is very bright. And just a little bit about what C-Purch is. That's an underwater drone competition. They have to design and build their ROVs and kind of take them through different obstacle courses and challenges all underwater. So maybe one day we can help with the dredging project. Who knows? No. But I just want to take this time to thank you guys for your partnership and your support. Thank you very much. Dr. Fuller. Okay, we are moving on to the public audience portion of the meeting. As always, it'll be three minutes per person and it's non-transferable. anybody would like to speak come on down It podiums on either side Please state your name in your city I thought that was a dime, but it's not but anyway good afternoon, Mike McCraight Protocol has already been established so I would not go through that But I'd like to say to our deputy city manager Andrew Mack, I want to say a certain thank you last night for your presentation in regards to service and cemetery. But before you get too far along in your plans, please meet with all the directors that will be utilizing that cemetery so that you all will get our input. People think just because we are directors that we don't like lie people but we do. Thank you. Moving right along. I said on the commission when we voted to do Sarah Simms Park. I heard some disturbing news last night. I have to address it to this commission and they say that that we have homeless people living in Sarah Sims Park when we spent over $3 million to beautify that park and make it a pristine park not only for district two but for the citizens here in Bointon. And for me to have worked so hard along with other commissioners and to hear that the children in that community are saying that they are afraid to go out to Sarah Sims' part because of what's taking place now. I heard the chief report congratulations but there's still much work that we all must do. We're not through yet. I'd like to come in you all on the atmosphere here tonight. The atmosphere is delightful. We don't feel like we are being in camp like in a prison setting that we could say what we want to say. In regards to our meeting that we had last night, this meeting took place once a month. We have Kiosk in the city. Let us utilize those Kiosks to advertise that meeting. It's held in district two, but it's for all of the citizens in Boynton. And we need more people to come out. We had about 25 to 30 vice mayor Hayes said that we had a fabulous turnout, but I was disappointed. Because it should have been packed. When you have concerns, we had almost as many members that came from Delray to help us look good, but I'm just saying the citizens in point that we need to be nudged to do whatever we have to do to tell us that that is our meeting, that is our input. This also, this chamber needs to be filled with people of color because this is what we get the work done. We got you all representing us unless we bring things to you and ask for your help. You don't know what we need. Just want to tell you all, God bless you all. I'm gonna tell you like the doctor asked the directors before. He came to us and said, you know, high as a business. And we said, we're still covering up your mistakes. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you next. Good evening, all. My name is Charles Hunt, a military retiree. I live and resign in rolling green at 1330 North West First Court. For the past six to seven months, I've been complaining about the city of Bantan taking advantage of the residents in Role and Green with leans and fines, which we could never repeat, whereas I myself are being charged $75 a day for having something on my car port other than a car since 18 July. I somewhat could understand that if we had something looking bad on our car port, we should be fine, but I don't see it, nothing. In the past, I blamed the city manager, which I most apologize, because the city manager The city manager is not, that's not his feel of force. Well, he is not dedicated police, which I think that he would be the best police chief we could ever have. He just don't have the heart and he haven't been trained in dealing with people. He's not people oriented. He forced. That's his job. In fact, we all agree that he came down off of the podium to the audience on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. on D.C. to force an individual, a senior citizen who was bossing his opinion. And this guy was in distress. Luckily, we had a police officer to come between them. I'm not really saying that, hey, this is a bad person. I think it's the wrong person in the wrong job. He's been trained to be a, you've been trained to enforce the law, not to bring people together. Thank you. Thank you. Next please. Hi, it's Susan Ouerointen-Beach. So I wanted to start out with the last regular commission meeting. I was wrong on some stats I brought up and I talked with Chief DeGioleo, so I told him I would come back and say I was wrong and what happened at the time was outside the city limits. So I just wanted to correct that. Number one, we need to get the Andrews house over to the CRA. Get it moved, get it saved, stop playing around. And I would talk about some of this during CRA except you know, that's one of my later points here. Next up, there's a petition to stop the Doons project. Please sign it, please share it. It's out there, it's public. Let's get this awful project off and out of our city. Number three, sorry, this is actually number four, I share about my reading glasses. Here we go. The CRA attorney, she basically lied to the public at the CRA meeting, saying about what we could and could not talk to. So obviously I should talk about it here where I'm allowed to talk about what I want to, because the CRA attorney lies about what we are allowed to talk about during CRA meetings during public time. So my suggestion is you all contemplate getting rid of that CRA attorney and she's on my list and that's not a good place to be. Let's see, we need to have a code revision board. We need to get moving on beautification, which I have been complaining about since 2019 when that CRA study happened and nothing has still been done. Let's get it done. We need to work on bringing back P&D and giving them final authority and or an architectural review board. Cities who have those with final authority are allowed to keep them even with local. So maybe it's time we do something because obviously what's coming our direction is ugly and the residents are not happy. So maybe you guys want to start taking a look at this and let's get moving on some boards. And so since nobody seems to be reading my emails, here you go. Clark, there's one for you and Commissioner Cruz. I've got your names on them. I don't have enough for all the assistant city managers, sorry, but there's a name on each one for Dan and the commissioners. And'll give you something to read tonight while you're sitting here in the slow times or when you are bored Because you didn't take the time to read and respond to the email. I sent. Thank you Thank you next please Hello My name is Charles Glocken, resident of colonial club, number eight colonial club driver. I came with several others who were here from this same area with the idea that we would be able to present our views quite opposed to the creation of an eight-story monstrosity of 298 or two apartments plus 38 townhouses on the west side of Federal Highway opposite our residences. And I thought that we would follow the usual procedures which which would be to present the reasons for opposing this monstrosity, and which would be followed by presentations by the developer, and the consideration by the board. And this would eventually possibly do its corrections and redesign and something that would be not only potentially legal, but of less of an imposition on the property owners nearby, which, by the way, have never been informed of any proposed activity. Now, but I'm disappointed, more than disappointed, but shocked to find for the first time that you don't have anything to do with it. The state just recently has passed the legislature has has approved a new law which removes the rights of the property owners, except for the ones who are going to build. And this is a rather unique and distressing development that I believe that this law was adopted a few months ago. Sir, you have about five seconds. Excuse me? There's a time limit, so you have about five seconds. Keep going, if'm going to wrap it up. Okay. This is the time when the commission ought to be speaking out. I don't hear anything. I didn't even know that this law, which was just the number. I just just as the SBE 102, thank you so much. I'm actually very happy to be here. Please take action. I think on your program, you made a reference to this kind of thing. Yes. And nothing has come out of here. Nothing, at the local level. The legislature is on the chair. We were not allowing any room left for local decision making. And this is important. And the rights of the property owners remain. Jason property owners. Thank you. That's not already removed. Thank you. Next, please. Good evening. Madam Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, City staff and commissioners. My name is Dave Patterson, and I live in Los Mangos, which is off of Federal Highway and Bointen Beach. I am the Los Mangos board president and also sit on a committee called Save Los Mangos. We are community opposite this gentleman. For those of you unfamiliar with us, our community of 188 homes has been around for nearly five decades. We are truly a diverse community with a mix of year-round residents, snowboards, retirees, workforce, blue collar, white collar, all ages. Our community is park-like and we have over 800 inventory trees on 38 acres. We're a one story and two story community and we're here representing not just Las Mangos, but our three story and four story neighbors from Walbright, South to the Delray Beach Line. We're here tonight because permits have been approved for June 1 and June 2. We now have a better idea of what is being built. We are here to protest in the strongest terms possible. Against this, live local act protected, eight-story, 85-foot high project, containing 298 rental apartments and a 401 space parking garage. The city's position has been, it can do nothing. Your hands are not tied, you do have a choice. We see throughout the state of Florida, cities large and small, fighting to protect their neighborhoods quality of life. By pushing back on the Live Local Act, it's already been amended. In fact, in the latest legislative session, there are many who now publicly state that this law is broken. It needs to be completely reimagined. It needs a do-over. Let us be crystal clear. We wholeheartedly support affordable housing and would advocate for affordable housing that is truly affordable. We are not for a grab by a developer to get ocean view units at a market rate. Not just this build, but all built in Boynton Beach. need to be in harmony with the surrounding community and with the city's comprehensive. rate. Not just this build but all built in Boynton Beach need to be in harmony with the surrounding community and with the city's comprehensive plan. We need an innovative citywide program to encourage home ownership. I'll leave it there for now. Thank you for your attention and I'll turn this over now to the chair of our Save Lost Mangos Committee. Thank you so much. Next, please. I don't care. You can go first. Go. Go. Good evening. My name is Kim Roger and I also live in Los Mangos. I'm the chairperson of the Save Los Mangos Committee. The problems with this build are many. For example, 298 apartments, on just 2.98 acres, that is tantamount to a zero-lot line build. It grossly exceeds the density levels in our areas' neighborhoods by 10 times. It is dangerous, it is reckless, and it is being protected under the Live Local Act. It has been characterized as a build that is too tight. Yesterday we received our request for the documents that support the approved permits and begin reviewing them. Thank you, Adam, for facilitating the request. There is an extensive list of issues and concerns. Tonight, we would like to highlight the attack of the ownership of the median that we have maintained since 1977, the placement of our community signage, and the lack of full-throated transparent engagement by the developer. The rest will be presented at another time. Initially, we're asking for this 85-foot build to be lowered to 45 feet and be compatible with our neighborhood. Proper setbacks. Reorient the building on the site and establish a good neighbor policy. In closing tonight we hope that the city is going to step up and protect the good people of Boine Beach. Because if allowed to happen as now proposed this will set a precedent through the city and beyond. We respectfully take the position that it's time for everyone on the dius to stand up for the residents, the voters, taxpayers, homeowners and not only protect our city but bring balance to this whole process. We're asking for this to be the start of a dialogue with you. We are hopefully you will take our remarks very seriously. Thank you and personally I would just would just like to thank Vice Mayor Haye always for his thoughtful convocations. Thank you. Thank you next please. Good evening. My name is Barbara Reedy. And I wanted to speak to you tonight about I need help with getting historic signs replaced and replanted and purchased and put up. I walked through the Dewey Park the other day and was very saddened by the condition of the sign reminding people in that park what that park represents. It's been beat up, beat upon, tore up. It's definitely needs to be replaced, please. The Children's School House Museum is on the National Register. Where is its sign? Some of these signs were removed during the construction that took place downtown on the town square. But we need to put that back up. Children's Schoolhouse Museum is on the National Register. Let's put it sign back up, please. I don't know where it is. I don't know who to ask for help. The girls scout troop, 25145, one of the little girls wanted to help somehow with the Magnuson house sign because there's a QR code on there that is so Degraded that you can't really read it or use it and the Girl Scouts wanted to help somehow and I don't know how to Ask them to help how to direct them to help us. The QR codes that were on stanchions downtown that were removed during construction, we were told that those would eventually be put back up and all those QR codes updated and refreshed and covered so that they would be protected from the sun. We're still waiting for it. We'd really like to purchase a historic sign for the Cultural center to make people aware of the history of that building. It is on the local register. We haven't put it on the national register, although we could, and that would be wonderful. So I just wanted to ask for help with signs. We don't have a historic preservation planner to advocate for these things. And I wanted to say also that I agree with what Susan said, could you please bounce the Andrews house into the CRA court and see what we can do about moving rapidly on that so the developer doesn't become disenfranchised. And also, can we do something about the Live Local Act? Those folks are, I don't blame them for being upset about it. And you should too, because this is power, your power that has been usurped. And you do not have control over these Live Local things and that's not right. So there must be something we can do. Please, thank you. Thank you. Next, please. Mike Fitzpatrick 175 Southwest Second Street. 2 p.m. today, there was a very positive meeting on moving the Andrews house. And attendance was Andrew Mack Adam Templar. And Tim Tak, My observation is the general consensus was the CRA should be the lead agency for moving the Andrews House because it would be moving to the CRA property, and most of the funds would come from the CRA. More time was spent talking about the Magnuson House than the Andrews House because of both houses are on the same lot problems are intertwined. The biggest question mark that was noted is the developer is not responding to multiple contact attempts. My observation is to keep solving problems, the staff needs a more formal direction from the CRA board. And at the end, Andrew Mack recommended the people meeting today should regularly meet approximately every two weeks as needed to keep pushing forward. So like I said, a very positive meeting and thank you. Thank you. Next, please. David Cass, Point and Beach. A few months ago, a gentleman named Charles Hunt came up here and spoke to Spoundling about our city manager. The incident he spoke about, one that was not a senior citizen. Also it was a gentleman who doesn't even live in the city of Boynton Beach. And the reason for that is because that person sent anonymous emails to the city managers family, sort of trying to upset his whole family life. And I don't think there's a man in this room who wouldn't stand up for his family and risk everything he has to protect his kids and his wife. And that's what that man did. He came down here and risked his job because of what the attacks were on his family and his wife. That's what happened. Now, he apologized for it. He didn't stay for the meeting, but I'm telling you, that is a man with character. That is a man who protect his family at any cost. And that's the kind of man we need for the city manager. Thank you. Thank you. Next, please. Cindy Falcadillo, I just want to bring up several issues tonight that would, I'd like them taken care of. Number one, the bathrooms. They need to be designated one for a man and one for a woman. There are only two genders. Some men need to be a little sweetie and clean the city. It is a hazard to have us females sit on that. It's health hazard. The LGBTQTP sign in the middle of the road. It is illegal. It denotes that the city agrees with pedophilia and raping children. The 666 benches, they call it art, but is the symbol of the mark of the beast. And for those of you that know, he know. The chief of police who allegedly isn't doing his job in temples with evidence, sleeps with hookers, desorts truth, and has a sergeant attack Americans, such as myself, which was right here on March 5, 2024. I wonder if that's on that list of his stats and arresting pretty much innocent Americans, because that's who they're arresting mostly. And I want to also say that the Chief of Police is also violating his oath of office by not removing illegals. He will not sign the document, which is harming Americans. We are talking about illegally here. We are not talking about people that came through the front door. We are talking about strangers coming into our home without permission, taking our houses and eating our food and sleeping in our beds without our consent. What part of illegal do you not comprehend, Mr. Chief of Police? Next is the disgusting odor of marijuana that permanates our air, our right to breathe without secondhand smoke and toxic chemicals going into our bodies. If it is from medicinal purposes, stay at home as that is where you stay when you're sick. Also the First Amendment Freedom of Speech, it is alive and well. God gave us the freedom to speak and all of you took a poll to protect that right, just keeping it real. We do not want to say eight story buildings in our downtown area. We do not have the infrastructure nor water pipes to sustain it. For your information, those who are for high rises do not live in East Point and Beach, and it wouldn't affect them with the traffic and the problems that this will cause. Last but not least, the red light cameras. They are illegal. It is color of law, title 18 US code 241 and 242, which is crimes against we the people. It also violates the Sixth Amendment to face your accuser. How can you face your accuser when the company is in another state? I demand that these things be removed now. Thank you. Thank you. No other public comments? We have nobody behind. people online. No, there's nobody on. No one is online. So we are good to move on. Mayor point of information. Can we if it's okay with my colleagues? Can we have the city attorney dress this? The concerns about live local and everything and and maybe go over thoroughly How this law came to be what it does and Very simple matter and then I have some questions after after you go you guys are okay with that I just want to take a minute to explain live local act I'm sorry. Did you see? He's okay with it. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sean O'Lam City Attorney. With regard to the live local act, as we all know, local governments have what is called home rule power. And that means we have the power to regulate those things like developments and those sort of things. So long as the state has not preempted that power. And when the state regulates something, that means that we no longer have the right to regulate that. So what the legislation did with Senate Bill 102, as they created the Live Local Act. So with regard to the Live Local Act, because it is a state statute, the City Commission is completely limited on anything relating to those developments. And to be specific, projects that act liberally preamps local government control in several ways. If a proposed multi-family development meets the State's Live Local Act criteria by setting aside units for affordable or workforce housing, this commission cannot deny the development based on land use, zoning, density, or height limitations. This applies if the property is owned for commercial or industrial use. The development isn't an area with sufficient infrastructure and the site isn't preservation or conservation land. The city must administratively approve without any commission review these qualifying projects if they comply with the Florida Building Code and other technical requirements. They cannot impose any additional requirements beyond basic life safety standards. The city only retains authority over building code compliance review, basic infrastructure, adequacy, and life safety requirements. And the processing of the permits and applications must happen within the statutory time frames set out by our state legislature. This means that the traditional commission powers over zoning density land use are restricted. The act was specifically designed to bypass local control of the government to accelerate affordable housing. It intentionally limits municipal authority to streamline the approval process for these affordable housing developments. Now, the legal implications. Attempting to re-zone property specifically to prevent or reduce live local projects would likely face serious legal challenges because a live local act explicitly explicitly prohibits local governments from taking any action that would prevent qualifying developments. Any rezoning specifically targeted at reducing live local projects could be interpreted as deliberately circumventing Florida law. Such actions expose the city to legal liability, lawsuits from developer, state enforcement actions, potential claims of discriminatory housing practices, financial penalties, legal costs, and reversal of rezoning districts. There's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do it. There's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do it. There's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do it. There's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do it. There's a lot, since the developers own the property, if you restrict now what they are able to use the property, you could trigger what's called a burnt Harris claim, potentially forcing the city to either compensate the property owner or you revert, reverse the rezoning decision. There's also a constitutional taking challenge that could be brought if the rezoning substantially diminishes the property value or their development rights. So we are literally hand tied. Now I do want to mention local criteria if they're a met. Let me say this. Even if they're proposed, live local development conflicts with the city's comprehensive plan or future land use map or policies. The act says the act takes precedence. So long as the development is meeting the state guidelines, we have no say, despite if we change our comprehensive plan or early end future land use map. I do want to give you one example that I was able to research. Bale Harbor Village attempted to, they had a nine count complaint that's over 300 pages filed against them because they tried to take action to prevent live local acts. Now we know BAL Harbor is a very, you know, wealthy area. After the complaint was filed, the village pursued an alternate strategy to prevent the application from being approved, amending its existing ordinances to render the application noncompliant, and in doing so effectively, acknowledging that it had no choice but to approve the application. The complaint went on to say that these actions by the village, coupled with the Florida Legislature's most recent amendment of the Live Local Act, not coincidentally, to prevent this type of municipal mischief and statutory nullification required the filing of this type of action. I don't know what has happened with that complaint. I suspect that they then approved the action. So we are very, very, very limited on what we can do. and Amanda can certainly come up and talk about some of the things that may be done. But... do. And Amanda can certainly come up and talk about some of the things that may be done. But, you know, the frustration is there and I believe, you know, the city has the frustration as well. However, the complaints really need to go to the local representatives of the state legislature and invoting, you know, because we have no say and any attempt to challenge it subjects us to very expensive and costly litigation. Thank you, Shona. Real quick on what you mentioned changing the comprehensive plan, if we, if this body decided to move in that direction holistically and organically, would that affect future parcels that are not owned by someone looking to do with local? No, because the act just typically states. The act specifically states is that the plan development meets the state's act. It does not matter what your comprehensive plan says. We are completely preempted. Yeah, last so, and this was, when was this law passed a year ago, two years ago? It was originally passed in 2023, and then there were significant amendments made last year. Yeah, I remember the amendments. And the city lobbied against this last year with Banner partners. They'll palm each county league of cities lobbied against this. You know, this is not just certain to Boyton Beach. There's a lot of municipalities that are against this pill. And I just want to touch on everyone who's concerned. You have to reach out to your local representatives. We reach out to our local representatives. the more emails, the more phone calls that are done, the more movement you can get. And I wouldn't just focus on our current representatives, but outside of Point and Beach, outside of their districts. Because that's the only way you're going to institute change. When I was in Tallahassee last year, I saw the amendments and everything just moved through committee fast and you know it's unfortunate and so I think what this commission needs to do this is something that commission crews have brought up prior is take a look at our comprehensive land and maybe take action you know to prevent this from happening in the future. I know we've had conversations about increasing required green space, increasing setbacks, increasing the minimum square footage for units in the city. I think there's other creative ways to incentivize and regulate the type of development that we want. And what we do today, we may not see the results in a year or two, we do today We'll we'll see in three to five years. So you know, I want to see that conversation come back I know there's consensus prior To have that conversation. I know that's a big overhaul to look at our comprehensive plan You know, I don't know if that's something we do in house or that's something that we farm out but You you know, we've been here in this for years and years and years. I mean, look at town square. There was a big push back on that. It's eight stories, 450 apartments at the end of my street. I get it right across from here. And we can't control the pass, but we can definitely set the stage for the future. Mayor, if I can. Just to add to what Commissioner Torkin said regarding the city's comprehensive plan, our planning and development department are currently negotiating of final terms for an agreement to do exactly what the commission has directed us to and that is to a comprehensive plan plan overall. It will be a lengthy process, and we hope to have that contract for the consultant at the next meeting or two. Awesome, thank you. Thank you for that update, Adam. Thank you. Could I make a quick comment? Yes, please, Commissioner Cruz. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Adam for that update also. I Wanted to see if it's possible and thank you Shawna. I hope you feel better. You sound very sick as well Just quick question If if we could hold on that portion a little bit with regard to the state requirement. The live local state guidelines. I think you mentioned a piece about the infrastructure or something along the lines of the project being aligned with the something about infrastructure. Can you want a little bit of that please? I'd like to invite Amanda because as it gets into this specific any specific planning and development and those sort of things as she is certainly the expert and not I. Good evening Amanda Radigan planning and development director for the city. The way the state's actually reads is that the projects do need to meet the development regulation. So they are held to the same infrastructure standards as any other project would be. And they do have to meet all the planning and zoning regulations within the code. That is different than the comprehensive plan. The comprehensive plan doesn't hold regulations. It is just policy. Those types of things would need to be edited within the land development regulations. So they are reviewed like any other project. They need to meet drainage. They need to talk about utilities and all the easements and move water the same way any other project would. We approve a project without those concurrency reviews. Thank you. Just real quick. So what dictates the it meets the infrastructure requirements? So all of the drainage requirements and other infrastructure requirements are within the land development regulations. We have a zoning portion and an engineering portion that is reviewed, and some of them are outside agencies as well. So things like traffic, road, like we talked about mobility, all of those concurrency reviews are handled within different agencies, largely within our city. But back to like the drainage. Is that Dr. Calcutt that decides there or the. No, like who decides like hey this is good to go I know the county does the traffic right. Those are the traffic study and then the city has a traffic code. drainage would be the city engineer and within the engineering divisions purview for review utilities reviews wastewater and utilities, not drainage. Drainage is how much water and storm water on off there is on a site and the fact that they can contain that water. So there are codes within our regulations and there's also South Florida water management district codes that we follow. So it's okay. So South Florida water management district also looks at the drainage. Is that for every project or is that for residential to single family home? That's correct. South Florida water management district does regulate drainage within South Florida. So they would have it say, and only when they wouldn't would be a single-family house. Like if you're gonna build single-family house. Okay, they don't use for single-family house. Like if you're gonna build one house on one lot. They also have Lake Worth drainage district as well, that is involved with some of the drainage as well. Depending on how they're discharging or where they're discharging to. Okay. because I mean, it's just like a super dense project. So I just, I mean, you don't know how bad the drain, the drain is just gonna mean, it's just like a super dense project. So I just, I mean, you don't know how bad the drain, the, the drainage is going to be until it's built, right? Like looking for a waterdale, you know what I mean? They approved everything under the sun down there and it's underwater, you know, when it storms. So I, I don't know. I think I look forward to the comprehensive plan overall. I will mention that any drainage that's designed is done by a professional engineered license in the state of Florida who has license and insurance. There was a problem where there was an malfeasance or negligence done that community could or the city could file a claim against their license and or the restitution as well. Got it. Got it. And these are subject to Florida building code. This administrative approval subject to Florida building code. Okay. Commissioner Cruz, you had a comment? Thank you, Mayor. No, I was just saying thank you for your responses and I think it's a little while for clarification. Okay. Yeah, I guess we'll continue this conversation. You know, when I just wanted to have the public receive some information, some clarity, like we had discussed at the agenda workshop. See, maybe we can discuss this at another meeting or in conjunction with the comprehensive plan. Thank you, Sean. I thank you. Thank you. Amanda Andrew. Okay. Moving on to the administrative portion of the agenda. The first item is appointing a city representative and alternate for the county-wide intergovernmental coordination program. Are there any volunteers? Oh, I'm like a motion to appoint Commissioner Kelly. We reviewed this during the Thursday, right? Yes. Yeah, but Commissioner Cruz was a online, so, a track. Yeah. Thank you. No, I was, I had a, I had. No, I had to attack but I would be fine with that. Your muffling commissioner. It's but she can't. She can't do it. She can't go. She's not mine. So is there a second for the, we need alternate way to I need an alternate to so I Select Rebecca as the alternate. I think it's what we talked about Thursday So we could do so we just see the motion motion to motion to approve Amy Kelly commission Kelly commissioner Kelly as the the Primaries and Rebecca Shelton as the alternate to the intergovernmental coordination program. Okay, so all of those in favor now. No, there was a second. So I'll make the motion to approve Commissioner Kelly as the primary intergovernmental agency delegate and mayor Sheleldon as the alternate. Okay. So Commissioner and Turkin move to approve resolution number R25081. Commissioner Kelly second in the motion all those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passed unanimously. Moving on the second item is appointing a city representative an alternate to the coalition of Boi-Ton West Residents Association. Are there any volunteers? I'll take that. Commissioner Hay. Okay, so Vice Mayor Hay was going to be the... Oh, what? And then we just needed an alternate to that order. Commissioner Cruz is the alternate now, but I am... Okay, good. You think you're... I'll make a motion to approve to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. I'm going to move to the next item. 2, 5, 0, 8, 2, vice mayor Hayes, second motion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. The motion passed unanimously. Okay, the third item is appointing a city representative and alternate to the Palm Beach County League of Cities. Any volunteers? I'd like to be the alternate. I'd like to make the motion to, if anyone does anyone oppose that? I'll be there. And then yeah, and that motion approved vice mayor Hay is the primary for the representative of the legal cities and myself, Commissioner Turkin, as the alternate. Second. Okay, Commissioner Turkin, move to your proof resolution number R25083. Commissioner Kelly second the motion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. The motion passed unanimously. Okay, the fourth item is appointing a city representative and alternate to the transportation planning agency. Are there volunteers? I'll make a motion to nominate Commissioner Kelly as the primary for the TPA. And if there's no opposition, I'd like myself to be the alternate. That a motion? That's a motion. I wanted to make a comment. I'll second that for a comment. Go ahead. Yeah, I've been on the TPA for three years. I've run $1,000,000 to the city. I've been part of that board for three years already. And I would like to stay on whether it's on an alternate position or primary either way. I would be OK with either of those, but I don't want to be kicked off this board. I've been able to bring a lot of money to the city and been able to build relationships with that as well which has benefited our community. The thus such a thing as the alternate one and alternate two. I mean, it's by resolution. You guys can appoint more than one alternate if you so choose. Okay, so we have Commissioner Kelly is the main. I called a question called the vote. Is there a motion? There's a motion and there's a second for discussion. Okay. Just to repeat the motion is to approve Commissioner Kelly as the primary representative and with I'm sorry who was the alternate. Commissioner, Commissioner, is there do you want to amend the motion to add a second alternate? Is that something we can do? Yes. Yes. Let's amend that current motion to add an additional alternate nominating commissioner Cruz. Second. Okay. So we have Commissioner Kelly. I know Commissioner Terkin moved to approve the resolution, right? You started. Yes. Excuse me a little bit guys. It's all good. So Commissioner Turk and moved to approve resolution number R2, R25084. Vice Mayor Haye, seconded it. Vice Mayor Haye, seconded the motion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Aye. The motion passed unanimous. Let me make a comment on that. Yeah. When you go to the transportation planning agency, as many of us that want to go can go, because there's an audience. It's also online. And it's online. So you can go to the meeting or you can attend it online. But those who are up sitting on the board, those are the ones that we just voted on. Okay. Just want to make sure that's clear. Can I ask a question about the process? So when the main person cannot go, do they notify so that the alternate has enough time to be able to attend? Yes. Okay. Just want to make sure that's what happens. Typically there's communication with our assistant. That's the way it's supposed to work. Okay. And as I always worked in the past that way, but that's the way it should. I understand emergencies come up, but if we know ahead of time it would be nice to make sure we always have representation there. Okay. We will move on to the advisory board appointments. The nomination goes to Commissioner Cruz to appoint a regular member to the art advisory board. Would you like to make your motion? But can she because she's not mine? She can appoint but she can't make the motion. Okay. So someone else can make the motion on her back. Commissioner Cruz, would you like to appoint someone? I'll just go ahead and skip for today please. Okay. Motion to. Motion to table. Correct. I'll second that. Okay. Is that what you're thinking? Yes. So we vote on the motion to table? where we just made a motion. I second it to table the item for the arts advisory board. All those in favor. All those in favor say aye. All those opposed say nay. Most should pass unanimously. Tableed for the next meeting. That one, three me off two. Okay. So are we moving all the way through? There are no applicants for the building board of adjustments. Wait, what did you say, Shanna? There's no applicants. There's no applicants for the building board of adjustment and appeals, but there are five regular members and two alternate member positions available for anyone that qualifies and would like to apply. We're going to move on to the community redevelopment agency advisory board. We have one applicant and there are three regular positions available. This nomination goes to Commissioner Kelly to appoint a regular member to the Sierra advisory board. I think I got it. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's okay. Don't worry, sir. So I had a, I believe there's a missing applicant on here. I spoke with Bill Swiner and he had showed interest in applying in this. So it's okay. I'd like to, for my nomination, I'd like to appoint Bill Swiner. He's in the crowd too. If you guys have any questions, served under planning and development board prior long term resident of the city. Well, how do we know, how do we know if he applied? Bayley, have we gotten an applicant? We have to make sure, and Bailey correct me, I think that they have to do some due diligence with regard to vetting the application. So we would just have to see where the clerk's office is with doing that before we can move to a point. Yeah, there's cut-off dates. And so he probably applied after our cut-off date and he might be on the next on the next meeting. So there are a few more positions if you wanted to do that for the next meeting. Yeah, can I just table my, you know, and take this all together? Yes. You guys okay, but table altogether? Yes. Okay. All right. Motion to table the Okay, so commissioner made a motion to table this area advisory board appointment commissioner Kelly seconded it All those in favor say aye. I have those opposed say nay Motion passes unanimously. Big up for skipping. Who would have? OK, to the consent agenda. We will now be moving on to consent agenda. My colleagues would like to pull any items from consent. Let's begin with Commissioner Turkin to my left. No, we kind of covered everything at the workshop. I don't have anything. Commissioner Kelly. No, thank you. Vice Mayor Hay. No, for me. If there are no further changes, we may have a motion to approve the consent agenda. Motion to approve, consent agenda. All those in favor approve the consent agenda, say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes unanimously. Okay, now we're moving on to consent bits. We'll be moving on to consent bits and purchases over 100,000 of my colleagues would like to pull any items. Let's begin to my right with Vice Mayor Hay. I have none. Commissioner Kelly. No, thank you. Commissioner Turkin. Nope, motion to approve consent. I can bid some purchases over 100,000. If there's no further changes, we have motion to approve the consent bids for purchases over 100,000 We have a second all those in favor to approve the agenda say aye aye all those opposed say nay Motion passes unanimously moving on to section 8 No, nothing on public hearing I don't know what you're saying. I have public hearings and you may ever go on undenied. Mayor on Tim B, I think that was a mission that we were going to table that item until later meeting on Thursday. So. Yes. Which one? A 10 B. It's a discussion of the animal control position. The police will be table. We'll have to make a motion to table it because it is on the table item.. We still have 10 a area. Okay, sorry. Just jump it ahead. One on nine. Okay. So we're on 10 a right for the Lamar Jackson way. Or we're good with that one. Yeah, no, that's what we're starting. There we go. No city managers can work. The first item under the regular agenda is proposed resolution number R25094, approving name of the entry road to Boeing Beach High School as Lamar Jackson Way. And on our Boeing Beach High School, alumnus Lamar Jackson for the outstanding athletic achievements and contributions to the community. Who do we have from staff that will begin? Come on down. Thank you. Good evening again everybody. We've done. Oh, wonderful. Okay. So short presentation for you guys. Just to kind of give you a little bit of a background for those who don't know who Lamar Jackson is and kind of give you an idea of what we're looking to do here. So first off, again, my name is Fabian Darrell. I'm the Assistant Director of Recreation and Cultural Services here in the city. And I've had the honor of being one of the leads for this project here. Oh, jump too many. Oh geez, an update. Okay, well, one of the slides I added is not here, but that's okay. So these are two examples of the signage that we are looking to do. These signs would be placed on campus at Boynton Beach High School, as well as the sign right there at the intersection of gateway entering into the high school would be adjusted to with more of your standard FDOT kind of green signage that's currently there. So right now it just says Boynton Beach High School, but that would be swapped out to be saying Lamar Jackson Way as well. They did something recently in Louisville that is very similar to this. They retired his jersey just this past season. And this was part of that program as well too, was renaming the street there on the stadium as well as putting some signage similar to this. A little bit of background on the Mar Jackson. So he's a South Florida native, born and raised in Pomfano Beach, but came up here for high school. Went to Boynton Beach High School was a big, big athlete here. Pretty much the top athlete coming out of Pom Beach, his senior year, went on to the University of Louisville where he won the Heisman Trophy, the most prestigious trophy that you can win in college football, pretty much their MVP. He was two time ACC player of the year, won multiple, multiple awards, the Maxwell Award, and many others in college as he transitioned to the pros. He was a two time NFL MVP, most valuable valuable player. Three-time NFL All-Pro, first team All-Pro, so pretty much sets them up as the last five, 10 years here at the top quarterback in the league. So he does a lot of philanthropic work here in South Florida, specifically here in Boynton Beach. He does the LJ Fund Day, which usually falls in the middle of July. That takes place over at Ezile Hester Community Center, utilizing the turf field as well as our multi-purpose field out there. Huge community impact. Last year, the attendance was through the roof. The kids thoroughly enjoyed it. He provided tons of amenities for them. Blow up options, photo opportunities, even state afterwards to throw the football with the kids too. So it was a very, very excited event and something that we looked to host here annually going forward each year. This program that we put together here with the street renaming, we got together with the high school. So we created a bit of a subcommittee held discussions. Also brought this to the Reckon Parks Advisory Board to get their buy-in on the project. They fully supported it all board members as well as we got some public input at that event last at that meeting last Monday as well. So everybody seems to be behind it. He's a big figure here in the community. The high school as I said is fully supportive of it and I think it'll bring some pride if you will to the high school and to the community. The high school, as I said, is fully supportive of it. And I think it'll bring some pride, if you will, to the high school and to the area as well. So it's something that we're very excited about. And this gives us the opportunity to kind of move forward with this project here. We don't have any specific dates on when this would be rolled out because we would like to do a little bit of a ceremony or something possibly have him come back to town and do this as part of a bigger recognition for him but these are the initial steps to get the ball kind of rolling and get the approval and the buy-in from the commission so we can move forward once we are ready to do so. Can I'm here for any questions or comments or concerns? Any questions from my colleagues? Yeah I'm just gonna say one thing real quick.. This is kind of like part of our initiative moving forward with like kind of like our hometown heroes. Like significant figures in Boyne Beach that we can essentially highlight their achievements and then being from our community. And I think this is kind of in a large missing part of boying for a long time. This should have been, obviously, when the mar got drafted into the NFL. So I think him coming back to boying, especially last year, Commissioner Hay, you saw how, or vice mayor Hay, my apologies. You saw how significant that was with all the kids and everything. So it's, we're definitely starting to bridge those gaps and I think it's gonna be beneficial to the city as a whole, to the kids and everything so they can see that hey, you come from Boyne, you're an athlete and you make a significant achievement, the city's gonna recognize your achievements. Absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. Lamar Jackson is an asset to this community and especially to the kids. When he was here the last time and he came out on the field was like, he is a superstar but you know, they just gathered around him. There were hundreds of kids just gathered around him. He was out there throwing passes to the kids and taking pictures. He was quite a good role model for our kids. And whenever we can get someone like that who will take the time out for our kids, we need to jump on it because it's an investment. It's an investment into our kids. These are kids we don't have to worry about. They are into a constructive program, and we should be cheering them on, all the boys and beach. Thank you. Yeah, one more thing I forgot to mention in my apologies, but I do want to commend Andrew, Chris Mollive, the Billiitts-Homayard Power Program, Saturday, the seven eight year old girl, seven and eight and under, five, six they won the championship, and I think our 12 and 13 year, seven, eight, they came and runners up. So, and that was a South Florida tournament, that included Hallendale, I wanna say Miami Gardens, us, Davey, Miramar, so those girls, this was the first year we kind of brought in girls flight football and it was a tremendous success and I owe a great deal of gratitude in the city does the Billy Tome. He continually continues to get back to the community after four decades. So. I just have one quick comment. Thank you Fabian for doing this. Yeah, I was at that event this last summer. And he is one of those guys that you wouldn't know that he was a superstar, a famous football player, when he gets when he shows up. He hung around forever. And I remember, his team was like, we have to go do this. He was like, no, no, I'm going to go hang out with these kids and throw the football and I'm on, this is my time. So he is a truly just a down to earth guy. He's not that superstar. He does love his community, loves coming back and giving to the kids and to the city. So I'm super excited about this. I love the colors. I'm super excited about this. I love it. The colors. He can't change football teams now. Yes. That's right. It flows. Yes. Absolutely. So, no, this is cool. I love it. So I'm excited to see it come up. So thank you. Any other comments? Everything's been said. Okay, if there's no further changes, maybe we have a motion to approve resolution number R25094. So move. Second. Okay. I'm going for it. VICE MAYOR, hey, move to approve resolution number R2094 and Commissioner Kelly second in the motion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes unanimously. So we're skipping over B. We go right into motion to table 10. Oh, yeah, be a second. Okay, so we have a motion to table B. 10 B? 10 B and a second from vice mayor Kelly all those are all those in favor say aye I Okay, all those opposed say nay Motion passed unanimously. Okay Moving on to 10 C This discussion was requested by commissioner Kelly if you'd like to begin the discussion on taking a legislative summer break. Yes, thank you. We did this last year and I think that it was helpful for staff. I wanted to talk about it again with staff. Do we know and I'm sure we do. But what are the budget dates in July? Do we have those handy? Because I know they're not on the calendar yet. It's Tony Davidson. I don't know. Alan, do you have, Alan? Do you have the budget dates, sir? I think it's, I don't know. It is, it should be on everyone's calendar. It's July 7th. It's normally in the, at the end of July or at the end of June, beginning of July, but I think those are workshops. I don't think they fall on a traditional Tuesday meeting. Right. No, but I wanted to, because what my thought was, we took off June, but then right into that, then we have Fourth of July. And I was just thinking if we went right through Fourth of July and then our first meeting would basically be a budget meeting because July is really the focus of the budget meeting That's why I was asking because I didn't want to get into a position where we're up against the budget dates So I was hoping that we'd have those I know I am throwing this on you right the second I think we got it July 7th Okay, so we we have three dates. We have July 7th July, and July 10th. So if you wanted to not involve the budget, that means you would probably have to do more towards the entirety of the month of June. Typically legislative break includes two meetings. So or we could move around the, what's the other? I can't show the joy of those men. Right. Because then we have fourth of July. Like. So or we could move around the the what's it? Can you cancel the July 1st meeting? Right. Because then we have fourth of July like then does it make more sense? I will be gone from the 26th of June. Like the third for my 50th. I already had the place for a year. What were the I don't think we'll have a meeting. Okay. There's a meeting on the first. I think July July 1st. July 1st. Yeah, July 1st. There's a meeting. That's right. I'll go with whatever the majority is. I mean, we could always try to look at maybe rescheduling those budget workshops as well. I could get with staff. maybe if you guys want to do the seventh one would be fine. I just try to look at maybe rescheduling those budget workshops as well. I could get with staff and maybe if you guys want to do that. I think the July 7th one would be fine. I just want to make sure that we... Is that going to call it something? I'm back on the 4th. I'll be back for the 4th of July events here. So I moved my day coming back on the 3rd so that I'm here for that. Do you only turn 51s? Yes, the June meanings are June 3rd and June 17th. So you could cancel June or you could cancel June 17th and July 1. Just consolidate those either pushing before or after. Correct. So. I would listen to the first one. The first one you would cancel would be the second meeting in June, which would be June 17th. And then you would cancel the first meeting in July, which would be July 1. But what the first meeting was June 3rd to until the 7th until July. Do you do a legislative break on the CRA board as well? Yes. Okay. Okay. We'll discuss that in a different way. Which dates? Do you guys want to look at as far as having an as per schedule? No, not reschedule just can't well just we're gonna consolidate into Yeah, we still have to do the city businesses. We're meet on June 3rd. Okay, and then skip All the way until July 7th. I said I won't be here for the June 3rd meeting, but that's fine. I'm sure you guys can handle it. In my absence. Okay. Okay. Do we need a motion for that? No, it's just a discussion, I know. Okay. That was gonna be my next question. Okay, so moving on, the item D, the discussion was requested by Commissioner Turkin. If you'd like to begin the discussion on residency requirements to hold elected office. Yeah, so I've spoken on this, we've reviewed this. I don't know, there's a presentation if you guys want to see it. We've looked at this before, I think a few months ago. If we could bring up the PowerPoint, because I'd just like to point out, so with regard to the residency requirements, our charter currently states that you only have to be a resident for a year. So that's not something we can change without a charter amendment. However, what the commission is able to regulate is what are the requirements to prove residency. If we could skip slide one. Please, I'm sorry, I don't have access. Okay,. I'm sorry I don't have access. I'll tell you when to stop. These are the residency requirements that we have right now on in our code or charter depending on where you look. So some of the things that we can change, if you please go to the next slide. Okay, so this is what West Palm Beach currently requires. They also have a one year required. But in order to prove residency, you have to show these other things. So for your Florida driver's license, for example, you would have to show a Florida driver's license valid for the year prior. And then you would also need a true copy of a deed, a property tax receipt, or these various things. Next slide, please. Okay, the city of Boca Raton. Again, you see the things that they require two or more of the following. And it lists the things, a lease agreement and all those sort of things which date back a year prior. Next slide, please, the final slide. Okay, D'Aral is very comprehensive with regard to what they require. They also require a biography, a resby, or a curriculum v-tay, whatever you want to call it. Also the different things that you, they required two years we could only require one year, but the different things you can use to prove residency. Also this sign bond, which was one of the things I know we've had a problem with signs. So requiring the post a bond of $500 and then in the event the signs are not removed within X number days 30, 60, whatever you guys desire, then the bond gets forfeited to the city. I've still seen some election signs up actually driving around. So these are things that we could put together into an ordinance and kind of beef up the requirements. Finally, and the deputy city attorney and I have been looking at this, but we only require 25 petitions. I can't see where that is in our code. So I don't know if that was by a resolution or how that was done, but that is probably something we should codify as well. Thank you, City Attorney, for that clarification. So just so I understand, in the public understands, with regards to the actually years of residency, that needs to be via charter amendment, which the people will decide on either for a special election or in conjunction with the commission. With the petitions, is that something that's charter, or is that, could we increase that via ordinance? I have not been able to find it in your charter. So and Stacy hasn't been able to find it in the charter so we don't believe it's there. I do believe it is something that we can change and include this as a residency requirement ordinance for running for an election. Yeah, I would definitely be in favor. I like derals format. Obviously we look at poker or tone, we look at West Palm Beach and derals. All these cities have something in common. You have to prove that you actually live here in the city. And I think that should, I mean, we get to this point because of prior situations, but I definitely think we should include that via ordinance swiftly and immediately. And I would be in favor of putting this on a charter amendment for the next election, for the voters to decide. I've gotten a lot of feedback, and I think this would pass in a landslide. I think people want someone that actually lives in their city, knows their city, has invested in their city, cares about the city, not just using this sea as a political stepping stone, which we've seen time and time again or at least the attempts time and time again. And time and time again, it doesn't work. So I would be in favor of having this come back to real ordinance if it's okay with my colleagues to include the proof of residency whether that's the protocol that Book of Tone and West Palm Beach has which are very simple stuff lease agreement. You know I think that needs to be notarized too because you can go on legal.com and type in your own lease agreement and make something up, right? So I think it needs to be verified by notary. Also, I think we need to look at homestead exemptions as well, right? Because if you own a house, typically you're going to be homestead exemptions, I think we can achieve those records. you records. What I'm trying to accomplish is making sure that we don't have fly by night candidates coming into our city, trying to manage a $300 million budget, and make impact and make decisions that impact the daily lives of people who work hard day in and day out for the quality of life. So as far as the amount of petitions, I would like to see what my colleagues say, and I hope you guys join me. And doing this because I truly think this is, you know, what the residents of the city deserve at the very minimum. I do have a couple of questions. Even if we do implement these new procedures, it means that the city actually does check these out for certain? There's a verification process instead of them just turning it in. So, Maylee's job is to verify they have the documents. It is not the clerk's job to go and double check, to verify it's an actual notary that signed it or that, know in those sorts of things she's really limited in what she's empowered to do. Is there any way that can be changed that it can be verified? That's by state statute. The you know certainly the way it works if someone wants to challenge a candidate it has to come from either a resident or from someone running against them it's not something that the city typically challenges. Interesting. But I think if we make it stronger if we make it stronger than it gives basis if this situation happens so before someone goes and spends thousands of dollars an attorney, you know, election attorney, you know, there's merit, right? And also I think people will think twice before committing fraud. Right. And the qualifying fee is that something that's mandated by the state or municipalities can change that. Municipality, we may be able to change that. And I didn't look to see if that was in our charter versus How we have that I would just have to verify that and then the other two questions I have or I understand 25 petitions it's too low in my opinion even if it's even though we are district and not at large you guys are district Other municipalities still have a higher number and I think 25 is a pretty weak number to have that for verification. And when it comes to the sign bond issue, is that something that it could be required that the candidate has to put their personal money not donor money? Because again, it's real easy for somebody to use their donor money and if they had to put their own money and could it be more than $500? be whatever you want it to be. It does typically come from the election campaign. Because that's something they have to report in their finances. And then if they were found in violation of that, does it go back to regular election rules that election violations are paid personally not from campaign funds? That I don't know. I can't answer that. I mean, I can look into it. It's not something I can answer. My thoughts are it's pretty easy for these fly by night candidates that we've seen come in and not show up at events and do the 25 petitions and leave their signs out for 60 days. And it's not their money. They don't care. But if it was their money and it was more and it was a personal sign bond, they might think twice about when to get them up as well. Oh, she's much. Let me just say this. Please. Yeah, I like the side there, but taking a look at it. But in addition to living in the city, I think they need to live in a city for the duration of the time. If I'm not mistaken, that is. Because sometimes I do believe that is in your charter already. Well, okay, well, all right, I'll let that go. Okay. I do feel that if someone is renting, they should be eligible to run, not necessarily. Right, yeah. That they own a home. They have to remain in their district, commission, and they're not to live in their district too. And I don't particularly agree with this one two years. I think one year living in the rather than, but you put it together and bring it back and we'll fine tune it. But the other comment is that as far as the petitions are concerned, I do feel 25 is low. I think it ought to be 50. OK. That's those are my comments right now. OK. Is there a different number you want for them there because they're running out large? Yeah. We're just. Do you have a recommendation? Are you just at it? It's fine. It's fine. I mean, I've worked in my former career in municipalities where we've, I mean, we actually did a drive years ago with the clerk of courts and we had to qualify by petition and it was 17,000 petitions that I did on a countywide. So I'm up for a challenge if that's the case. I think it should at least be 100 in a mayor's race. If not more, I think Daures 200 and change, again, for their mayor and their large. So I just think it's an opportunity for people to actually get out and know their community as well. That's why I don't really agree with the one year because it's easier to create some fraudulent documents in a one year, in a one year but to get a decision. I'm really happy to be able to really agree with the one year because it's easier to create some fraudulent documents in a one year, but to get a couple of these in a two year is a little more challenging. But I'm open to whatever. So what I'd like to propose if it's okay is we do 50 petitions for commissioners and a hundred for the mayor. And then ultimately with the one year versus two year, let's let the voters decide that. You know, we might, you know, what better form of democracy than allowing the people to decide what that should be. I agree. And I don't know, I don't, you know, much about referendums, but I'm sure the city, you guys, I don't know how you guys work that out, but I would like to see that at the next commission election on the ballot. And then the other thing, was there something on here about the filing fee? The qualifying fee. Yeah, the qualifying fee. Correct. Do we have, do we have comparables? If we go back a slide good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I want to make it quick, comment if possible. Sure. Oh, forgot. Yeah, I support the residency requirements. I support increasing the number of petitions for both Commissioner and Mayor. But what I do not support is precluding people based on their income from running for office. I absolutely do not support that. Thank you. I'm not sure whether that point's made, but whether it's $25 or $50, you know, I don't see the thing wrong with the $25. Well, we're going to increase the qualifying cards. Then maybe we leave the fee as it is. If... I don't see anything wrong with the $25. Well, we're gonna increase the qualifying cards that maybe we leave the fee as it is. If it's something that, I mean, in the interim, Sean is gonna research it and see if there's comparable. But we want to encourage people to run. The problem we have is we encourage people to run and they don't participate and the risk is the taxpayers are going to pay what? $40,000 to go to runoffs for candidates that don't show up anywhere, don't participate. Take a lot of money and just toss it around. I mean, look at the look at the last reports on some of the on one of the particular other candidates. It looks like there's just a pass through of money going through and that candidate didn't show up anywhere and the taxpayers would have been paying for a runoff. That's something that we have to start considering is, you know, even in your prior election, there was a runoff cost how much money when one of your opponents was questionable on their residency. So I think it's something if we can just all process that and take that in a little bit before making any decisions. But it falls on the taxpayers to pay for runoffs for candidates that don't have really any interest in serving the community or participating. It's not fun being a candidate, but when you have to go out there and you just ignore everyone and raise $40,000 and it gets flush through and nobody knows why. I just think that there needs to be something that we need to revisit. I think everyone up here knows the runoff is a strategic move by Canada's to dilute the pool. So you basically like hurt the lead candidate. Look, if anybody wants to run they have to be up for the challenge, but I think it's not fair for other candidates to get out there and participate and show up to the communities and sit there and other people just pay $25 and say, well, I'm just not going to do that. But my name on the ballot. Yeah, just put my name on the ballot and I'll raise money and Lord knows what I'm doing with the money. And it goes back to, it's up to the candidate or a citizen to bring forth election violations. Well, that's not an easy process for an everyday citizen, so they're supposed to now go get a lawyer and get an election lawyer, which are one of the most expensive lawyers out there. So if we can tighten up this process, it doesn't put it back on the taxpayer all the time. It doesn't put it on a citizen to have to figure out how to file election complaints, which is extremely difficult. That's it. And expensive. Yeah, and looking at this at a macro level too, you eliminate gutter clogging the judicial system with these type of things. Right, so as being fiduciaries or budget and on taxpayers, it needs to be strict. I understand the sentiment, you know, from what was said earlier, I get it, but $25.50, I mean, you know, a part of this is managing your finances, right, and managing, and managing other people's finances. And so you gotta be able to do that, you know, and so I think think, you know, that I just disagree with that sentiment. But again, I would like to see some comparables from other municipalities. But I do want to get consensus today as far as the city turnies office presenting options for increasing the petitions and the proof of residency requirement. then some comparables and options for the increase of the filing fee. I know one of the fees are percentage base on the commission salary. Is that where we're getting that 25? Okay, okay. Okay. Yes, please. Okay, so the qualifying fee is 1% of the base salary for the commissioners and the mayor. That goes to the state. That's a state fee that's on the state election laws. The qualifying fee is our fee, which is more like an administrative fee. And then the petitions are 10 cents per petition and that's a fee that goes to the, the supervisor elections office. So the qualifying fee is administrative fee, which is $25 per candidate for the clerk's office to the... That's the filing fee. That's the qualifying fee, right? That's the city's administrative qualifying, filing fee. I mean, I just went through this, and I can see how hard you and Tammy in the clerk's office work, right? I mean, hours and hours spent on this for $25. Are we doing this city of service? Are we doing the clerk's office, the service, are we doing the taxpayers of service? For stopping everything we're doing for $25. I don't know, I think there's a conversation to be had there as well. I think I have a suggestion. Why don't I, at the next meeting, we could do a quick discussion item. I'll look at some of the other jurisdictions on how many petitions are required, how much the qualifying fee is in other jurisdictions versus a filing fee in other jurisdictions. Please. I think we're solid on the petitions. Unless there's something closely different. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no The only other thing I would want to mention with regard to a charter amendment with referendum is Because of the cost of doing that. I do think if we're going to look at any other charter provisions It's really something we should start doing and I believe may lead do they have to be to the supervisor of election by November correct? Typically it's before it's by the beginning of December that's a specific time frame that it has think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that's the same thing. So, I think that a charter committee conversation is a separate one. And we'll hopefully discuss that the next meeting. I have a quick question for me. Okay,. Okay. With regard to a having something on the ballot for the next election, there's no cost because we already are having an election, correct? Right. Okay. You're correct. Okay. Okay. I do have a small concern with that and I don't know if my colleague shared that. As we saw in the last election, turnout was extremely low. We had about 46,000 registered voters in the city, about over 80,000 residents. And only I think I believe, if I remember correctly, under 6,000 people voted. Turnout is very low even in elections where we have the mayor and the ballot. So my concern following this coming election for district two and district four is that we don't have the mayor and the ballot. We don't have any larger scale elections where my fear is that we're gonna have a very small percentage of the population making this decision. And I mean, I'm sure everybody understands this and can see the data from the last election. But I do have a concern that we're not gonna get a, the scenarios to really try to get everybody's voices heard because of the issue with the turnout. That's my concern. Mayor, if I may. I'm glad you brought up data commissioner Cruz, because in District 3 there's actually a higher turnout than you saw in 2022. So I think it's all about communication, like you mentioned, right? And that's something that is our responsibility as elected officials to make sure that the community knows what's going on, right? And so I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. I think it's our duty to talk to our community leaders throughout not just our district But the community as a whole to let them know what's on the ballot, right? We live in an age where technology is a double-edged sword You can have misinformation spread quickly or you can utilize those platforms to educate the public and so Yeah, you know, I look forward to discussing this and You know look forward to what the city attorney has moving forward Yeah, the it's it's good with regard to technology and I do agree with that Misinformation can be spread very quickly With technology at the same time a lot of our seniors are not always as tech savvy as the younger folks. So I do still have that concern. The issue with turnout obviously, like, you know, with your district, it was different, but with regard to the city as a whole, turnout was very low. And it always is for municipal, but it was even lower in this election. So I do have that concern with turnout, and it's not because they're not informed. It's because sometimes it's also voter sentiment, and it has a lot to do with that as well. So we could do it, we could educate people, but if they don't turn out, then it's their choice as well. Yeah, and I do think it does come down to the city being more proactive. You know, it was not on the digital billboards that there was an election. Not trying to throw any shade, but people didn't know it's up to the candidates, and it's all swept or supervised or evolutions to get out earlier in the game. But if this is something that we wait three years until there's a mayor race, will if there's four people in the other two districts next year and it runs off then again taxpayers are paying maybe 25,000 that year and it's just going to continue and continue. So I think that it's also up to us as elected to get into our districts and start notifying them early on instead of just remaining silent through the election process. That's all I have to say. David, do you have a comment that you could keep your short pants? I'll try. I'll try. I'm sorry. There has to be consensus for public comment on the honor of public comment. Yeah, okay. I'm good, okay. Just one. I just want to say new mayor, new look. Um, anyway. Yeah, with all due respect to Commissioner Cruz, this has got to be done now. I mean, we had an election in District 2 where that gentleman, he did not live in the city and it was proven but nothing could be done about it. We just had an election in District 3 where the gentleman who ran against the incumbent, he did not live in this city for a full year before qualifying. It was known but because of the city clerk just being minister ministerial we couldn't do anything about it and I think that most people if you ask them reasonable people would say the residency requirement should be three years but we'll take two but it's got to stop being at one it's got to stop being at one the other thing is the bond for the sign I know that I've done campaigns that were in boca where where there's a $500 bond that needs to be posted. I don't remember if it was a personal one or from the campaign, I think it, unless it's statutorily impossible to do it, I think she'd be from a personal account. That way that that candidate will make sure those signs get taken care of. And the signs that are still up are in a fenced in area that the candidates can't get. And if they took the fence down or opened it up, I'm sure the candidates will be more than happy to take them down. But you've got to move forward in this. It's a crime to have people run for office who don't live in the city. Or maybe while they're in office, move to Abacoa. Anyway, thank you. Thank you. Next, please. Susan. You make me laugh, David. Susan Oyer, waiting beach. Gosh, he's funny. So he is. So I think this is, you guys aren't even making this hard enough. I've been an advocate all along. We need to go five years of residency. You need to actually live in this city and know this city and know more than the mall and know more than the beach. you need to have some hardcore time in our city. And I think you also should have voted in the last pick a number two to five elections. And whether they were city, national state, whatever it is. But I think you should be active registered voter. And I think if you're going to be an elected, why the heck are you not a voter? And I think that came up with our prior mayor who had never voted an election in his life till he actually ran. So that needs to be something just like Del Rey at the last I understand. They made mandatory voting in the last two elections for their board members to be on a board. And I think that too, which I guess I'll be back up here again in a few minutes. The filing fee, yes, it needs to be more. I mean, you need to have a vested interest in this. And again, no more fly by night. I mean, if you want to do 50 and 100, that's fine. Or even go higher because you know what, you need to want this. And, you know, have your friends hand you, you know, have a party. have everybody bring a dollar if that's what it takes you know so you can walk in with some money I mean I just think you need to have skin in this game and it definitely needs to be more than 25 petitions I do like the idea of the 50 and the 100 for the mayor I think that's a great idea or I'm even going 200 because that's from each district. Maybe doing 50 in each district. So that the person who's running for mayor is actually known in each of those districts. And I don't think when you look at the petitions, I don't think they should all be from the same neighborhood. I think it should be representative of your district. So don't have 50 of your neighbors filling out your petition. Go to at least, for example, three different neighborhoods in your district when you turn these in. And I think we need to be doing something so that this is more actively checked and challenged because this is embarrassing when I run into friends in other cities that go, we hear your mayor lives in XYZ city. It's like, yeah, and it's the worst kept secret and boi-n-beach. So I think we really need to be toughening this up. And the more forms of residency you require, the better off you're going to be because if you live here, then you should have all this and it shouldn't be a problem. So make five, six, ten things required. Don't make one or two. Thank you. Great. Next please. Good evening. Jim Susic point in beach. I just side by comment. I just think that worrying about the filing fee is kind of in the front. I think that you don't know the quality of the individuals, you don't know their financial responsibilities, their abilities. I think to even consider that, if there's a statutory requirement that cites a certain dollar amount that has to come in for somebody to qualify or filing fee, leave it at that. Leave it at that. You want to worry about wasting too much money on on taxpayer dollars if we're going to have a runoff or anything like that, burden them, go for 200 votes to sign, really damper somebody to really show that they are a true candidate. Two years as a minimum. Five years, I understand the passion behind that. But I think two years and then blanket them with several things, proving that they've been here that they have it. But don't go after your dollar amount because I think a dollar amount, it's such a petty thing. If you can make $200, you know, you've got backers. Whether or not you believe that it comes at a personal funds or not. I think you should force the individual to prove that the weight of their candidacy comes from other residents that believe in them. And if they can't get that, then you can't run. Thank you. Okay. All right. Now we are going to move on to item E. The discussion was requested by Commissioner Turk and if you'd like to begin the discussion. Continued service on the advisory board to waiver process to allow continued service. Yes, I would. And I this is an option that I think the Sean and I had talked about that's not as convoluted as revisiting everything, but allowing a waiver per vision for the commission to decide if we want to extend a waiver provision for like the term limits for residents who live in the city. And I had a member from a park advisory served on there. I think 20 something years, you you know, been in the city since she was a kid. And she just wants to help. She wants to serve, right? And, you know, I think there should be a mechanism where we could have a case-by-case situation for the commission to decide, hey, we'll, you know, we'll do a waiver for this individual. While we, you know, we do maintain some sort of regulation. So, yeah, that's the whole idea of this, just to provide a mechanism for the commission to make a decision if they did decide to move for someone who's already shown dedicated service and lives in the city to continue serving on the advisory board. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin. I support that with, I think, with conditions because what I don't want to see is then we get into the point where we're approving so many waivers that then we go, why do we even have term limits at that point, why are we even? Because the whole point of starting the term term limits was to allow an opportunity for a position to be vacant so that somebody else would have an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise maybe have the opportunity because the person who had served for many years name would be known to the commission and would just automatically reappoint them as opposed to giving somebody else a shot who wants to serve and who's, you know, lived in the city and is invested in the city. So I'm comfortable with a waiver process as long as it's something that actually comes before us as opposed to it just they're being able to just become a name on the advisory board because what we've seen happen is we just look at a list and we pick a name. And so there's no, there's not any continuity to that. And so I want if that's something that we're going to establish, then I would want there to be, it actually is a separate item where there's a discussion about that under the advisory boards, of course, but that there's more discussion as opposed to that name just being placed back on the calendar in the fold. I think also the time period is a year for them to sit out. We could even reduce that. I don't know. I mean, so there are other things that maybe we can do. And that would apply for city residents also. If you're a city resident, you can ask for a waiver. I don't want to get in habit where there are some boards that I think we open it up to not being city residents, but I think that that's something that if we are giving a waiver they have to be a resident of the city to get that waiver. I was wondering if there's conditions. Yeah, I understand the logic. That makes sense to me. Thank you. Vice Mayor Hay, any comments? Yes. I guess I want to avoid having a vacant board because someone is termed out and we don't have any candidates. We don't have a long line of people with these boards. I can't remember last time all the boards were filled. I was informed by Susan or your last night that we had one time. that the point is that we have a challenge trying to get people to serve. And because of that, I have no problem in someone serving past whatever term limit they have. If we don't have other candidates standing in line to take that position, We don't have that type of knowledge when we're looking at that list. I don't know how much effort that would take to let us know that this person has served their limit. And my feeling is there's no other person in that category and that queue, then that person should be allowed if they have done a good job and we don't have any problems with them, they should be allowed to serve beyond the term limit. Because I look at this list and just every time I look around, there's no candidates, no candidates, no candidates. And we need to do something to encourage our people to serve. We need to give some type of synthesize of that service. So I just feel that we need to take that in consideration and get more information so we can move these boards ahead because they're there to advise us and help us to make the proper decision. So I don't have a problem with going over the extended term limit. Sorry, just one more point. I'm going to you're just briefly touched on it. I think and I, in speaking with residents over the last year and mentioning advisory boards and vacancies, nobody has any idea what I'm even talking about. And so I think one of the things that we can do is a city that we have failed to do is really push out that we have such a thing as an advisory board. Because I think our residents really do want to participate. The ones that I have spoken to about it have gone on and applied and have then are now sitting on the boards. So I think we also have really failed at advertising and pushing out the volunteer opportunities that we do have. If you don't want to sit on an advisory board, we have other volunteer opportunities. If you want to sit on an advisory board, here's the information. This is where our vacancies are. And I think that that's where we really have failed to push out the boards and to push out the need. Because at the end of the day, I've sat on a bunch of boards and some of them, you are really helpful to the board, to the board that you're serving, but then some are you're really not doing anything. And so then it also becomes why am I going and why am I serving if I'm not really doing anything either. So, but I think that City as a whole can do a better job of pushing out our advisory boards. Like I said, I've spoken to numerous people who had no idea that we even had such boards and then since gone on to apply and be on these boards. So I think that we can change that narrative too by really just pushing out that through our PIO or through different departments these boards. Yeah, Mr.. Bors, right out of my mouth, Commissioner Kelly. And then also, too, we did it one year, but I don't think we did it this past year, is where we had the recognition for all the advisory board members. I know we've been, we brought that up last time it was done, you know, it wasn't done. So maybe that our accountability component for this upcoming budget is make sure that we discuss that. So I think that's important, right? You know, a lot of these, you know, a lot of these residents, they dedicate a lot of time and it's not sound paid and I think it'd be nice to, you know, have the public recognize them. One question, are all of the boards during the day or some of these at night? Remember, okay, just because it's very hard for people to participate when it's a Monday at one o'clock. I mean, I was able to do that because my work schedule is flexible, but I think it's also publicizing when those meetings, because there's the misconception that these things are always taking place during, when people are working, and they might gravitate to boards if they know that it's something they can fit into their schedule. That's actually a great point. And so what, who dictates? Right, fair, here has a comment. No, I, it's not really a question, but I just wanted agree with Commission Turkin on that. Having that general, whatever you want to call it, recognition of our committees that we have in the city. I remember when we had that before, the excitement level was unbelievable because they looked forward to that. You know that we showed appreciation for their service. That's the least that we could do. And in that, at that dinner, certain people were recognized for whatever got little plikes or whatever. And it was very nice. I know because of the economy went south. We had to kind of back off of that. But I think we have recovered to the degree that we can crank that up again. And it would be something that would really motivate, I think, more applicants to participate on our committees. Just want to agree with 110%. Okay? Or even, and you have that, and maybe incentivize, like, you know, if you're on advisory board, you get a taste of point and ticket or something. I don't know. Right. You know what I mean? Something like that. Incentivized, getting on the boards, but I think looking at the time is a big thing too. Okay. So what's the next minute? There's one thing I want to bring up. And this is basically with Gabby. Currently we have 51 events on the books. We've looked at adding maybe a TPA event in addition to that and now the advisory board event So I just want the commission to understand that There's a lot of work time and money that goes into prepping these events and the bandwidth of staff is only so much So I would actually maybe look at Alternative or a strategic approach to maybe combining some of the events with our first Friday. So like monthly first Friday events that we had that maybe we can combine something with our advisory board recognition and if we do want to give out any sort of certificates and things like that or doing something to where we can actually maybe look at moving some of those events together, just to take some of the pressure off the events team. And they're great. I mean, I'm still getting people talking about the drone show that they saw from I-95. Well, maybe what we could do is even like a pre-event reception or something where at first Friday or at a different event, we host a reception before the event for the advisory boards and, you know, and that's where things. So that's maybe something we can do where we're not creating a whole separate event, but we're still providing that recognition for them. Okay. Okay. There are consensus as to direction for staff. Yes, for the waiver provision. Yes. That will have to be added into the ordinance, so I will take a look at that as well. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. And F, there's a request to have a joint meeting with the community redevelopment agency to discuss the pending legislation related to the CRA to staff have time and dates that they are proposing for a joint meeting. Yeah, just regurgitating what I mentioned on Thursday. Yeah. We know everything going on in Tallahassee. You know, the strategic plan sitting in the CRA should be working together to accomplish these goals. and because our funding could be limited, I would like to hold a joint meeting between both bodies so we can have this discussion in an open matter. Great. And when that is, you know, I guess we have to go back to the, how does that work? No, I believe that we can call the meeting. We notify them. That's what we did last time. They just published their agenda today. So if it's something we want to do at their next meeting, then we would just add that to the beginning of their meeting and ask them to re-notice it. As far as setting a date with the CRA board? Yeah, I don't know how quickly you want to do it if this month or next month. I think it would probably be easier if the city just joined at the CRA board meeting and maybe we could do it then. I mean. Yeah, yeah, the next meeting is on Tuesday for the CRA. Do it better. Okay. Okay. Okay. And we'll add that to I'll get in touch with Catherine to have that done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And um, G. Yes, G about the conferences that Commissioner Jürgen added. So just discussion for FLC, NLC. I guess what I'm looking for is just consensus for us to start looking at who wants to go to the one FLC in August and then NLC is outside the budget year, I guess Something we tend annually, but I want to make sure we do this in a cost effective manner with the early bird special Yes, what's the date on that do we know November? FLC I think is August and it's in Orlando this year. Yes. It's the 12th. Yeah, NLC. I'm not, NLC I'm not sure. I think it's November. Yeah. NLC is, and I think NLC was in Tampa. I'm not sure where it's going to be this year. In Salt Lake City. Oh, it's in Salt Lake City. Yeah. and no seasoned salt lake. And while we're waiting for that, you know, when I first got on the commission three years ago, Vice Mayor Hayes said, I would go to... Yeah, and I'll see you in Salt Lake City. Oh, it's amazing. While we're waiting for that, you know, when I first got on the commission three years ago, Vice Mayor Hay said, I would go to as many of these as you can because they're very informative. And I'm going to pass that information to you, Madam Mayor. I go as many as you can because they're very informative and it's really eye-opening to see what other municipalities do. As far as process, sometimes we operate and we're we're combed in with information so it's good to expand that horizon. I guess the mayor is gonna be going to Utah quite a bit because the pinching conference is in Park City. Yeah, November. It's in September. It's been 19 through the 22nd. I will, yes. I will be going to that one. And the September one. I think yeah, it's the day. It's August. It's the Jesus We're just to let you know I'll be going FLC and I'll be going to NLC this year and I'll throw in an FRA conference Conflict with any of our meeting. We'll interfere with Thanksgiving. Usually, yeah. I want to say FLC, I think does. NLC is usually like that Wednesday. Yeah, NLC is the 19th of November, so it's not going to. Yeah, and then the FRA will discuss it. Oh, that one will, because we have a meeting on November 18th, so we'll look at the travel dates. Okay. I'm both of those. So I know last year you guys will bring back adjustments to the commission schedule, maybe we can do that. Because I know we have to do that with the budget anyways. Yeah. We'll get it taken, Carol. I When's the one's the early word you said on that? I think it starts in like May. Starts in May? Yeah, OK. Yeah, I just don't like if people decided to go last minute and just rather get ahead of this. So you know, understand. You know, we're not paying more than we should. Right. So how many of you got? I guess you do you want to check your schedules or and just get with us individually via email? That's fine. Okay. That's fine. Okay. That's fine. Yeah. Okay, that's it. Does anybody have any final comments for tonight? If not, may we have a lot of questions? I just want to say that when we look at the applicants for, for example, a historical preservation that we look for specific job types, not just random applicants. I agree. That really need to be taken on consideration. I think that should be with any position moving forward. True. It's a proven track record. True. Well, particularly that one. Yeah, they've made it somewhere before. But I'm excited. On that board, we do have there are requirements in our, in the ordinance that says that they, you know, we have some, if we can get them, we have them. whether that be, I think one is like an engineer, one is a planner, one is, so we have that, but then there's always that if possible clause. But I know that's written into a couple of them where we have those set in there. But just double check that. Sean, that makes sure we're doing great. OK. OK. Is it? How do you do it, John? Yeah. OK. guys are I think. OK. I'll do a job. Yep. OK. Guys are on it. Good job, Madden. We have a vice mayor. OK, worth over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely need to do.