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He's under the weather today. Councilmember P. Mr. Aki. Councilmember Johnston. He's under the weather today. Councilmember Pulaski. Your. Councilmember Snyder. President. Councilmember Tadea. President. Councilmember Worth. Here. You have a core, I'm your honor. Thank you. Next is the approval of the regular agenda. Councilmember Polowski. Thank you Mayor Admo for approval of the regular agenda. Mayor Pro Tem. I'll second that motion. You want to make the change? Oh, that's not. Okay. We have a proper first and a second to approve the agenda. We'll call vote. Motion passes 8- zero with one absent. All right. Next is the consent agenda. Madam City clerk, will you please read that to the record. Before you do that, Mayor Pro Tem won the make a quick.'t can't make a motion until after she's read the consent agenda. Okay. Go ahead Item 3a approve of the January 16th 2024 City Council minutes Item 3b a resolution of the City Council of the City of Brighton Colorado accepting the proposal of LER Incorporated doing business as of LER incorporated doing business as Renner Sports Services and approving the procurement of BJA Park Tennis Pickleball Court replacement. Project number 24-008-436. For the contract amount of $288,930 and authorizing the city manager or designate to execute the contract on behalf of the city. Item 3C, a resolution of the city council of the city of Brighton, Colorado, accepting the proposal of recreation by Lemmy Jones LLC and approving the procurement of Brighton Recreation Center, WaterSlide Demolition, Design and Installations, project number 23-008375 for the contract amount of $476,200 and authorizing the city manager or designate Colorado, extending the time frame for use of the lodging tax grants and allocations from the lodging tax fund awarded in 2022 and 2023. An authorizing the city manager or designate to execute the contract on behalf of the city. Item 3D, a resolution of the city council of the city of Brighton, Colorado, extending the time frame for use of the lodging tax grants and allocations from the lodging tax fund awarded in 2022 and 2023. An authorizing the city of Brighton, Colorado, reappointing Jeremy Hammond as an at-large member of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board with a term to January 23rd, and the city of Brighton, Colorado, reappointing Jeremy Hammond as an at-large member of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board with a term to January 23rd, and the city of Brighton, Colorado, reappointing Jeremy Hammond as an at-large member of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board with a term to January 20, 28. Item 3F, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Brighton, Colorado, appointing Mark Rawlings as the Ward 1 member of the Planning Commission to fill an unexpired term to January 20, 25. Item 3G, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Brighton, Colorado, ratifying the mayoral appointments to the City of Brighton Youth Commission for terms ending in June of 2025. What's the pleasure council, Mayor Brutten? Thank you. I would like to move the consent agenda with one amendment. I would like to move item 3D onto the resolutions on the regular agenda which would become 9C. So you want to approve the consent agenda by also moving 3D to become 9C to be discussed later. Correct. Council Member Plosky? Okay. Councilmember Green. Mayor, I'll second that. There's a proper first and moving it to 9C. No other discussion, we'll call vote. Motion passes 8-0. Next is ceremonies, swearing in of the new board and commission member. City manager Martinez. Thank you mayor. Good evening mayor. Mayor pro tem and members of council. I will turn this over to our city clerk. Come on up to the mic and get closer please so we can hear you and you can pace her. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the Congratulations, Mr. Hammond. Would you like to say a few words at the mic? No? Okay. And do we have one more? He's not here. We're planning. Oh, he does that plan. Okay. All right. So next is swearing in the Brighton Youth Commission and Youth Corps of volunteers, members. So any manager Martinez? Thank you, man. I will have the City clerk come back up, but I will also have our manager of youth services, Tony Russell here as well. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to do it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The name school grade. And then you can tell whether they're being sworn into the youth commission or the youth core based on the color of their shirt. So the TLS youth commission purple is youth core volunteers. And we do have three members tonight who served on the youth core of volunteers and moved up to the youth commission. So that's really exciting as well. So if you all maybe just want to start here. You come first and then after you introduce yourself, you can go ahead and have a seat. Hello, I'm David Durran and I go to Ego Ridge Academy and I'm in Levant grade. And before we continue, if you identify any other board to serve in planning commission or anything like that, that would be good to know. Oh, okay. My name is Lydia Borrella. I'm a freshman at Riverdale Ridge. My name is Ian Kirschner and I'm a freshman at Riverdale Ridge. My name is Alan Maridino. I'm a freshman at Riverdale Ridge. Now I will also be serving on the planning commission. Hello, I'm Emmanuel Haro-Kateras. I'm currently a senior at Riverdale Ridge. I'm Magnus Meyer. I'm serving... I do color preparatory academy, home school, and I'm currently a sophomore. I also serve with the Brighton Legacy Foundation. My name is Miranda Flores, and I'm a junior at Eagle Ridge Academy. My name is Ducla Nauke, and I'm a sixth grader at Lincoln Academy. My name is Luna Perez, and I go to become middle school, and I'm a 6th grader at Lincoln Academy. My name is Luna Perez and I go to become middle school and I'm in 6th grade. My name is Laila Hadoran and I'm in 7th grade at B.C. Middle School. My name is Gianna Rizasco. I'm a 6th grader at Ovelyn Trail. My name is Janessa Johnson, I'm a six-grader at Ovelyn Trail. As you can see, we have a lot of exciting talent coming on board. Thank you all for your continued support. All right. Thank you. Can we have you come up and let's come up and do a picture with all of us? Well, I'll squeeze in. on the on the if you're a core member or a commission or a I'm gonna say a little. All right. Thank you for your willingness to serve and be a voice of the youth for our community. We really appreciate that. You'll do well. All right. Next. Public invite to be heard on matters none of the agenda. that you'll do well. All right next public invite to be heard on matters none of the agenda. I only have one person signed up to speak and it's for an item coming up on the agenda which will be on 6 a I don't have anybody else I know to speak at this time do you confirm with that as well. Madam City third. I have any year on our thank you. Okay. So we will go to item 6A, a resolution of the city council of the city of Brighton, Colorado, accepting all public lands and facilities associated with the Brownlee Farms subdivision plan for an approximately 137.41 acre property generally located, excuse me, generally located to the south of Bromley Lane, east of Chambers, or out west of Brighton, Oasis Family Water Park, and north of the Indigo Trail subdivision, or specifically located in the northwest quarter of section 17, Township 1 South, range 66 west of the 6th Prince of Meridian, City, Brighton County of Adams, State of Colorado. So at this time, I will officially open up the public hearing. Ask of our city clerk will verify all the necessary postings and publications were done. Yes, your honor. The notice of public hearing was published on the City of Brighton website on February 5th, 2024. Thank you. City Manager Martinez, who is presenting tonight? Thank you mayor for this item. Nick Demario. City Manager Martinez, who is presenting tonight? Thank you mayor for this item. Nick Demario, our senior planner, will be presenting. Welcome Nick. Employee of the year, Nick Demario, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, they told me I picked in high school but I think I picked I'm going to be a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit My name is Nick Demario. I'm a senior planner here with the City of Brighton and tonight I'm presenting the Brownlee Farms subdivision plan To begin I like to summarize what subdivision is subdivision is a process by which land is divided or combined in the parcels appropriate for development This process is regulated by the land use and development code and includes two processes. The first being a subdivision plan, the application I'm presenting tonight. This is a public process, it serves to identify the area of development and includes infrastructure obligations required of that development. It will then conclude with the final plat and administrative process that creates the buildable lots of the subdivision, dedicates rights of ways and creates 100% design and construction plans for the development. The purpose of tonight's hearing is to request the acceptance of the Brownby Farm subdivision plan. The intent of said plan is to construct a residential neighborhood with a variety of parks and open spaces. Planting is the third step in the land development process and staff use a subdivision plan review criteria from the Land Use and Development Code to review the proposal. Before you're on the screen is the subject property. The property is located to the south of Bromley Lane, east of Chambers Road, west of the Brighton Oasis Family Aquatic Park and north of the Indigo Trail subdivision. Moving into some background the property was annexed in 2001 and is zone to mix of R3 multiple family residential R1A single and two family residential R1B city neighborhood residential andial, and O Open Space. Here we have a conceptual layout of the subdivision. If accepted, the property will then be reviewed under a final plat. We're all roadways, lots, and parks and open spaces will be detailed and defined. For your reference, here we see the R3 Zoning adjacent to Bromley Lane. The R1A and R1B zone districts adjacent to Chambers Road, and the open space zone district and the southern portion of the subdivision. The current zoning of the property as shown here on the screen was approved in November of 2023. As mentioned, subdivision plans include general development obligations. They're required of a developer. The following slides will go into detail in what these obligations are. One of the most important aspects of a subdivision is its phasing. Phasing is defined as a sequential development of smaller portions of a larger project site. The proposal before you tonight has four total phases. Each phase contains specific infrastructure and development obligations and all phases are required to be completed sequentially. The purpose of sequential phasing is to ensure that the appropriate infrastructure such as roadways, water and sewer lines and storm drainage are in place in order to serve that portion of the development. Lastly, all the public improvements identified in each phase are required to be financially guaranteed with the city and building permits will not be issued for a particular phase until all public improvements have been completed for that phase. Here's a larger image of the phasing plan. Phase one, shown in red, includes the build out of Bromley Lane and the northern portion of Chambers Road, as well as the detention pond and stormwater outfall shown in purple. Phase two, highlighted in yellow, includes the build out of the southern portion of Chambers Road, parks and internal roadways. Phase three, highlighted in green, includes the build out of internal roadways, parks, open spaces and trails, and phase four highlighted in blue includes the build out of all internal roadways, parks, open spaces and trails. Moving into streets and traffic signals, the developer would be required to design and construct the following roadways. Bromley Lane, shown here in blue. Chambers Road, South 15th Avenue, and Kite Street, shown here in red. And all roadways internal to the property shown here in yellow. And that includes alleyways also. Additionally, the developer would be required to construct a traffic circle to its interim condition at the intersection of Chambers Road and Kite Street. The interim condition traffic circle will function as a three-way T intersection, but will contain the necessary right of way for the construction of a traffic circle when the property to the west develops. This subdivision requires that the developer, the brawm, that the developer provide cash escrow for one half of that future traffic circle. Lastly, the developer will be required to construct a roundabout at the future intersection of Keight Street and South 19th Avenue. The developer will not be required to construct South 19th Avenue. However, so I'm a little bit ahead of myself. However, they will be required to provide cash escrow to the city or provide reimbursement to the property for the east one half of the construction of South 19th Avenue occurring within the Brawmbe Farm subdivision. will be, developer will be required to construct a traffic circle at Bromley Lane in South Night, South 15th Avenue at the time of phase four or whenever the city deems that that signal is warranted. So if that were to occur before phase four, the city will call in the construction of that signal. Moving into water and sewer, the developer will be required to construct all water and sewer lines necessary to serve the development. This includes the design and sewer, the developer will be required to construct all water and sewer lines necessary to serve the development. This includes the design and construction of non-potable water lines used for irrigation as well. When the city has a non-potable delivery system, these irrigation lines will serve the development. Lastly, the developer will be required to dedicate water to the city, said dedication will occur in accordance with city ordinance. Moving into stormwater, the developer will be required to design and construct all stormwater infrastructure necessary to serve the development. I lighted in blue at the left side of the map is a stormwater detention pond. This pond is required to be constructed with the first phase of development and will include the necessary volume to collect runoff from the subdivision. Additionally, the developer will be required to design and construct a regional stormwater outfall known as a south outfall. As a regional outfall, it will not only serve this development, but will collect stormwater runoff from the other properties within the area. The construction of this outfall is required with the first phase of development. Lastly, the developer will be required to design and construct stormwater infrastructure from the pond at the Brighton Oasis Family Aquatic Park. The runoff that fills this pond will be carried up through Bromley Lane into the Bromley Farm's detention pond and ultimately out through the regional outfall. Moving into parks and open spaces, the developer will be required to design and construct all parks and open spaces within the development. All parks and open spaces and landscape tracks are considered public improvements and as such are required to be constructed prior to the issuance of building permits for the applicable phase. The developer will be required to design and construct soft trails within the dedicated open spaces circled in red. This will also include a fenced dog park. This will aid in making the dedicated open spaces visibly usable to residents. And at the time of final plat, the developer will be required to pave a fee and lieu of park and open space dedication, and the city will use these funds to reimburse the developer for the cost of the soft trail and dog park construction. And that reimbursement was not to exceed the cost of construction. Here I provided a zoomed in image of the soft trails in Dog Park. The trails in Dog Park are depicted in green. The trails in Dog Park are to occur within the open space that will be dedicated to the city at the time of final plot. Moving on to trails, the developer will be required to construct a 10-foot wide concrete trail to location zone here in green. This includes a trail adjacent to Bromley Lane, Chambers Road, and the Fulton Dege. The developer will be required to construct a 10 foot wide concrete trail connection from the terminus of Trey-Four away within the Indigo Trail subdivision to the southern portion of the Bromley Farm subdivision. This will allow a direct pedestrian connection from the Indigo Trail subdivision to the southern portion of the Bromley Farm subdivision. This will allow a direct pedestrian connection from the Indigo trails from Indigo trails into Bromley farms so that the surrounding residents can access the dedicated open spaces. Additionally, with the image of the top part of the screen, the developer will also be required to complete the trail connection from the parking lot at the Oasis to the trail that will run adjacent to the Fulton Bridge. As there are several infrastructure obligations that are outside the scope of this proposal, the subdivision plan includes the opportunity for the developer to seek reimbursement, forstreet infrastructure at a later date. The following slides will go into detail on the items that are eligible for reimbursement. The subdivision plan does not guarantee the reimbursement for the cost of these items. However, it identifies eligible items that may be brought to the City Council at a later date for a reimbursement request. I want to reiterate also that the only items the subdivision plan guarantees reimbursement for is the soft trail and dog park construction in the dedicated open spaces. The eligible items include the expansion of Bromley Lane east of South 15th Avenue and this is a portion of Bromley Lane that is adjacent to city property. The traffic signal at South 15th Avenue and Bromley Lane. The drainage infrastructure at the Brighton Oasis family aquatic park, the trail connection from tree foil way into go trails, and the extension of non-pottable water lines outside of the property if that were to occur. It will also include the construction of a regional outfall from Chambers Road to Sable Boulevard and South Forth Avenue, and the expansion from Chambers Road to Sable Boulevard and South Fourth Avenue. And the expansion of Chambers Road's south of the property to Andego Trails. The following slides will go into detail on how the proposed subdivision plan meets the applicable review criteria from section 2.02 of the Land use and development code. The criteria before you on the screen discusses the accordance with the comprehensive plan. And the following slides will go into detail on how the proposed subdivision plan is at accordance with the Bbright and Comprehensive Plan. The property is designated a mix of high-density residential, low-density residential, and open space. The conceptual layout of the proposed subdivision plan, as well as the required infrastructure improvements, reflect conformance with these three designations. Moving into chapter three of the comprehensive plan, the proposed subdivision plan pursues the two opportunity areas before you on the screen, by facilitating the construction of a higher density residential use on the corner of Romney Lane and Chambers Road. In doing so, the developer will be required to build out Bromley Lane to its ultimate condition, directly pursuing the plan's vision for high-density residential adjacent to our arterial roadway. Additionally, the proposed subdivision plan allows for a mixed density residential development south of Bromley Lane with close access to commercial land uses. south of Bromley Lane with close access to commercial land uses. In relation to the policies before you on the screen, the proposed subdivision plan will utilize areas of existing infrastructure investment, as is bound by two existing roadways and existing water and sewer lines. Additionally, the build out of adjacent and internal roadways furthers visions of both the comprehensive plan and the transportation master plan. Lastly, the financial responsibility of the design and construction of a majority of the infrastructure will be that of the developer and the development review committee conducted the review of the subdivision plan in conjunction with multiple external review agencies. In relation to the policies before you on the screen, the proposed subdivision plan furthers the balance between residential and non-residential uses. And the subdivision plan is within the urban service boundary and has been designated for urbanization. Residential development under the proposed subdivision plan will provide a diverse range of housing options and the construction in multiple parks and open spaces will pursue goals of walkability and pedestrian connectedness as well as provide for alternative modes of transportation to create a healthier community. In relation to the policies before you on the screen the proposed subdivision plan will provide enhanced streetscapes accessible and inviting green spaces, various transportation options for residents and the diversity of housing types and costs. Moving further into the applicable review criteria, the proposed subdivision plan has been conceptually drafted to meet the standards of the applicable zone districts under the completion of a final plat. It requires that all public improvements are financially guaranteed. It clearly indicates a logical and coordinated phasing plan and that all impacts identified by technical reports will be mitigated through the design and construction of all public improvements. To finish up with the review criteria, the proposed subdivision plan does not deter any existing or future development for meeting the comprehensive plan. In fact, several infrastructure obligations within the proposed subdivision plan, such as the regional outfall and the various trail connections, will provide other properties with access to needed infrastructure. Lastly, the proposed subdivision plan provides a wide range of new infrastructure, as well as upgrades to existing infrastructure. And the development review committee, as well as upgrades to existing infrastructure. And the Development Review Committee, as well as our external review partners, have reviewed this proposal and have voiced no objections. In accordance with the Land use and development cone, sides were posted on the property. A notice was posted on the city's website, and notice was sent to all property owners within 1,000 feet of the property, all for no less than 15 days. Additionally, notice was posted on social media and the interactive development map was updated to include the date, time, and location of this hearing. In accordance with the Langston Development Code and prior to formal application in the middle, a neighborhood meeting was held on August 31, 2022. Staff has not received any formal comments in advance of this hearing. Staff finds that the subdivision plan is in compliance with the applicable review criteria as set forth by the Laneige's and Development Code. The Planning Commission heard this request on January 11th and voted to approve the subdivision plan. And the Development Review Committee has reviewed this project and recommends acceptance. As such, city staff recommends acceptance of the Bromley Farm subdivision plan. The Options for City Council are before you on the screen. After a brief presentation from the applicant team, I'll be free to field any questions you may have. Thank you, Mayor'm looking forward to seeing you again. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank I'm going to go to the meeting. Good evening, Mayor and City Council members. My name is Phil Stupert with HR Green. Been handling a lot of the planning and entitlements on this project. We are before you, of course, for the zoning a while back, which you approved through that stage as well. I might be very brief tonight, Mr.Mario did great job very thorough going through everything So I'm not gonna repeat a bunch of things that he said however there are some things that I do want to cover First of all just mentioned the people who are here tonight from the development team Mr. Jack Holen back there Craig Campbell and Tom Wharton They're developers and then Craig Campbell and Tom Wharton, their developers, and then Aaron Cleader from J.R. Engineering is the lead civil engineer. So we're all going to be here to answer questions. Again, we'll be brief on this and save more time for any questions you have for us. So one of the first things I wanted to mention is just how, again, we are aligning with your comp plan. The zoning that we got approved while back by you all aligned very closely to your comprehensive plan. So let's carry through all the way until tonight here, where this plan also aligns with the zoning and aligns with your comp plan. You know, we have very good land use transitions from the multi-familment in the northwest to some duplex units in the yellow, the brighter yellow color, the single-family detached homes in the light yellow and then open space to the southeast. And we worked very closely with staff getting those land use transitions, placing those parks in open space where they wanted and we all came to good agreements on the layout of this master plan. to good agreements on the layout of this master plan. If you look at all those red lines that you see on the plan, those are all our walkways and trails, and as you can see, they're everywhere. Very connected subdivision. The open space is twice the amount of open space that's required by your code. So, you'll like developers and our team have done a very good job of trying to bring you a very nice community for Brighton. The large open space down the southeast corner, again with something originally we had some units down in there and staff had requested that, hey, you know, really this is a very important open space connection for the city. So we removed those lots, added trails through there, and that provides a very nice connection from the south, all the way up to the aquatic park and the historic brownway farm itself. This just kind of highlights the open space all in green so you can see all that at once. And I want to pull up a slide in a couple of minutes to blow up the area around the historic farm and show you how we were sensitive to the historic farm itself. The main road coming in off a groundly lane, we work with staff to kind of pull the way a little bit from some of the facilities there to be sensitive on that side. All right, match them out the only space. You can see it down through there. facilities there to be sensitive on that side. All right, Mitch, I'm out of the open space. You can see it down through there. We have almost 30%, so almost double what your code requires. City Code Review criteria, from which you all are to judge your project and vote on. Mr. DiMario covered those pretty well. I'm just gonna to flip through these and you know you can see the green check by each one of them. We feel like we've met every single criteria in your code. From start to finish. So all of those we have met. And if you want to go back to Q&A and talk about those, we can certainly go through those one by one if you would like. This is the last slide I wanted to show. This is, of course, around the historic farm. Some of the things that we did, and it actually came up in the Plan Commission, meaning is, what are we doing around the farm? Well, the first thing, if you look on the south side, you can see there is a large buffer. It's about 40 to 50 feet wide that we have set back from the property line of the historic farm. We have also, if you look at the alley, that's an alley down at the bottom of the screen. There are rear-loaded units, so the garages are in the back. The fronts of the units are actually gonna face the farm. So when you have the farm, you're gonna look across and see the fronts of the homes, which as you know, typically look much nicer than in the rear elevation. So we did that from a site planning standpoint just so it looked really nice around the historic farm. Put the large buffer in that's more than what is required by your code. And then also we're going to landscape pretty significantly. If you look at the southeast corner of our bottom right and the bottom left, that's where some of the Saudi units are located. And we're going to plant that heavily with evergreens and things like that, again to soften the edge in relationship to the historic farm. The Plan Commission had brought up on the West Side. What are we doing on the West Side? And we are going to have trees along that entire edge. We are going to work with the farm to put up a fence there that ties into the character of the farm and we'll do some plantings of native grasses and things like that. Again, that kind of mesh in well with the farm. So with that, we are going to conclude our part of the presentation. Again, we will be here to answer any questions that you may have for us tonight. So thank you very much for your time. All right. Thank you for adding to the presentation. Those that have signed up to speak, you'll be called upon before I have one. If there's others that have that wish to speak, there are sign up forms in the back. So the person that has signed up to speak, Richard Eganzollis. So Rich, come on up. State your name for the record. You'll have five minutes. Good evening mayor. We are pro-tem council. Mr. Martinez. I've since I've been off a council, I still get a lot of calls. People concerned about what this subdivision is going to look like. Okay. And most of them are elderly, like me. So I understand you're going to start. What was that around the front end there somewhere around those apartments or something? Was that it? That's what I know. Is there a hard case on those apartments being set there that close to the road? Is there going to be a fence behind it? For protection for the people that live there? Or is it going to look like these up here on by a Perry Center with no fence to block them out of the street, you know, that's a concern. Also the concern is the amount of people that are going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit with maybe three or four commercial entities on there. So we were all surprised when that didn't happen. And don't understand how you're going to get a apartment complex or a condominium complex, whatever you want to call it. They're concerned about the amount of people that are going to be there living there. Not about the people themselves, but just the amount that will be right there across the street. And then you have the two access, one at Bromley in 15th and one off of Chambers, which is what it was designed to do before. And what kind of a base price are they having on these homes? What are they going to look like? Cost of them. That's another concern. Are you going to put a little $200,000 you know, pup tent like out there by prayer center or you know. Well, there'd be a fence how they consider the fence behind those apartments. That's a big plus for us. Well, they complete the drainage first. Of course, it was said. Now, I don't know about anybody else, but I know that's going to affect the home price of depending on the price of the houses they're going to put there. I know what mine's been. What they figure mines worth right now. So those are just a few things that were brought to me by the people that still live around there. Since they knew I was on council, they all used to answer a lot of calls before, but I seem to be answering a lot of calls again. You know, I guess the trust is there. I don't know. That are they know I'll try to stick up for them and myself. But I just think if that apartment complex has moved back to the center of their prop of their subdivision design, that would make it a lot better. I know they're gonna lose lots if they do that, but they'll gain apartments in exchange. So they're not losing any real money. So I don't know, it's just a big concern that these people are all having and they're not very happy with it, you know, and I know that rate doesn't matter. They're all concerned and they're all your voters, all the people that depend on you to make the right decision. And Natalie's picking on me again. And we're just all concerned about what's right, means they were okay with it when I explained to him the years ago when I was on council, that that was going to be a commercial entity right there along Bromley Lane, which they were okay with. The people that asked me. But now they're not real happy with an apartment complex going in there without knowing who your neighbor will be for a month, I'm not month. So you know, a little concern there. So we were hoping that you would take into consideration what I'm saying tonight and I'm not just speaking for myself. Okay. And I'm not just speaking for myself. Okay, and I'm not just speaking at all for myself. Keep that in mind too, please. You know, people are concerned. The way the country is going nowadays, the way life is. Time. There's your time, Rich. Okay. But anyway, I guess you know how we all feel out there and hope you can get into consideration. the councilor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. in relation to the zoning, whether it's conversation on the apartment complex or anything of that sort. For one staff has not seen anything beyond a final plat at this time for any vertical development in the area. And the property is owned, what it's owned, it was passed in November of 2023. So what I can say is a site plan, if an apartment complex were to go into there, the site plan would be reviewed against the applicable zone district, which is R3. If that included a landscape effort against Bromley or fencing staff and the development review committee will ensure that all requirements of the land use code are enforced. Again, in relation to the commercial development, I'm not really here to talk about zoning tonight. It's been zoned several different things over the last 20, 30 years, but at the moment it's zoned the R3 R1A, R1B in the open space. Let's see. Well, what houses cost? It's, as mentioned, with the comprehensive review criteria, it's going to provide a variety of housing types and a variety of housing types comes with a variety of housing costs. And can the apartments be placed in the middle of the property, the zoning of the middle of the property does not permit the apartments? So Anyone add to it too? Very briefly. Because Nick did cover several things, but in as he mentioned, I mean this is not zoning tonight, right? Cause zoning's already been approved. But I just wanted to reiterate that if you go back to your comprehensive lane use plan, it shows multi-family on the site. So we followed your comp plan almost exactly for the multi-family, which then I got zone multi-family. And then where the rusty uses were open spaces. I mean, all that follows your pipeline very very closely. So just wanted to mention that. Thank you. Thank you. Madam City Clerk, will you let us know if there's been any correspondences, correspondences either in favor or against this request? No, you're on either of them. All right. We've got a question from the council. Councilmember Plowsky. Thank you, Mayor. Well, my old history, Mr. Gonzalez, and I represented a ward four back in the day when all of this began. And I'm sad to say it. And I'm not blaming the applicants. Some of this is on city staff and the fact that because so many years have gone by, many things haven't really kept up with some of the thoughts that we had back then. As an example, Memorial Parkway, doesn't seem to be included in this this any of this that I can tell. And that's sad because when I was chairman of the Parks and Rec Board, the Memorial Parkway was totally to encircle the city. That means all around. And that hasn't been taken into consideration by the planning people at all. And right now we're talking about changing Memorial Parkway to legacy pathway, trail, lane, or something. And that's going to change. But what I'm wanting to get out there is, it's just sad to me, and we knew Brighton was going to grow but what we wanted was common sense Make it look like the rest of the city and area Not bring in and they've done some great thoughts and planning with the open space and considering the oasis and the farm and all But there's just other things that haven't In my mind I just can't in my mind. I just can't wrap my head around it. When you talk about the apartment units, it isn't just apartment units. It's all the vehicles that are going to be placed right at that intersection. And it just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry. I just can't buy it. When I go out on the road today and all the traffic I run into now, and then we're going to add that whole area for more vehicles. It's going to be a nightmare. And I just don't think that we even, and you know, it'd be different if we had a bus service that worked here. We don't. And I don't see it happening anytime soon. So anyway, I'm not, I just can't, I'm sorry. And I, I know these guys have done a great job and they always do great work with the applicants and everything, but I just I wish that they could reconsider and look at this in a different manner and bring it into the city not as a glorified piece of property, but as becoming residents residences in our city of Brighton, not something on the hill. I don't know. That's kind of the way I'm seeing it. And we may not have gotten, and as Rich said, he's been contacted by his neighbors. Bowling Friday, I once again, four different people come up to live in that area. And they said, well, you know, they say you're having this, but they said, we can come and talk, but you don't even listen to us. And so there's a lot of, a lot of people that are not very happy with all of this stuff. So anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there. Thank you. Then next, Council Member Snider. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks for doing such a great job of explaining this. I had 100 questions you've narrowed down to just two or three. I understand the concern for the apartments. I have a different point of view of it. Where they're going to put those apartments is going to make the major traffic stay on the main feeders, not running in and out of the neighborhoods. And I think that that actually makes sense. We've also elevated our code as to how much parking you have to have for that type of development. So I think we'll have places for people to park off the street. So I think it's a good idea. You know, sometimes we forget things. When I was just getting out of high school, I needed a place to live. I couldn't afford anything but an apartment. We need apartment homes in Brighton. They've got to go somewhere. That's close to shopping. Not a great deal of traffic. You get to King Super's in back, the new store there just west of it. So I like it the other thing I really like about we're getting a dog park. I can't tell you how many of my constituents say we need a new dog park. Where's the new dog park? We're getting a new dog park. So I think that there are a lot of things in as far as cheap $200,000 homes. I'm not a genius, but I looked at the size of the lots. They're putting in for the single family homes. Trust me, they can't afford to build a $200,000 home on that size a lot with the infrastructure. We're gonna get good quality homes there. So I like the plan, but the one question I have is, have we resolved the surface drainage outfall to the west with the property owner, whose land we have to go across, is that situation resolved? What I can tell you is that the subdivision plan requires the design and construction of that outfall. In terms of acquisition and troubles of property owners, I can't speak to that. What I can guarantee though is that the subdivision plan puts in place of requirement of the construction of that outfall. Is that it? Okay. Can't some of them agree? Thank you Mayor. Just a couple questions at a point, you know, there's no parking around that dog park. So really the only access to that dog park would be the trails for the residents that are inside there. So I just want to point that out. This is not just a giant public dog park. This is primarily for this neighborhood. How much addition to, to Bromley, are we talking about, are we basically doubling the size of Bromley Lane, including turning lanes and pockets for turning into there. I can kind of a little bit of a discussion on that. And then as far as the only requirements as part of this is just from chambers to 50th, as far as extending Bromley Lane, the rest of that is not in in there and then they would be eligible for reimbursement from 19th to 15th there We talked a little bit more about that. Yeah, of course for your first question councilman I'm gonna call up our assistant director of public works Christopher and He'll be able to tell you the the specifics of Brawmy will look like after it's built out. In relation to your question on their obligation, their obligation is to build Brawmy Lane from Chambers Road to about the Oasis, so then it kind of tapers back in a, the community to the East formerly known as Case Farms will build out the remainder of that. The bounds of their property cease at South 15th Avenue. So the extension of, of Bromley from South 15th to 19th, it's not, it's not adjacent to their property. It's adjacent to ours actually. They have agreed to construct it with the possibility of reimbursement from the city at a later date. I'll have to come back and request that from this body. It may or may or may or may or may or may orent members of the city council. The obligations of the development as Nick had stated would be to widen the problem. They would be focused on the southern half of the problem. The turn pockets and such will be generally added in intersections because there's more traffic flows there. Probably not going to have any Excel diesel lanes outside of there. And then for the intersections back off of chambers, and bronle should have turn pockets. But once you move more into the subdivision internally and such, you would not necessarily just because you don't have the traffic close. We went with roundabouts in particular with this subdivision to reduce the obligation for future traffic signals and allow the functionality and our targets really collect their type road classifications not arterials typically other than potential interchanges and stuff. Thank you Mr. Montoya. And so the only stuff that would be a 15th there would not be one of chambers. Correct or for this development the intention is to have a traffic signal at 15th with chambers if you look at our transportation master plan it actually comes off of alignment and it turns back to where intersects with the apartments in the grocery stores are I think it's the natural groceries there and that's what we want to drive traffic to. So in the future, this segment will actually act as more of just a local road. So it would not be signalized. And the intent would be then to limit access based on some of the comments we received last time. We're gonna ask the applicant to make modifications to the intersection to allow full movement and the interim until the subdivision to the west develops so that we provide adequately access to the transportation network perfect thank you next council member worth thank you mayor. I just need some clarification on a couple things here so you're saying that there's going to be a light at 15th in a traffic circle at Chambers. Is that the traffic circles sit within the subdivision? Oh, OK. So at kite or whatever. Yeah, that's what the streets internally. And it's a collector so it allows more traffic movement internally to the subdivisions. It's similar to like a southern street or OK. So I apparently missed it. What's happening at chambers and Romley And the interim condition only one developments occurring right now if you can see oh stand up and point I think it'll be easier Thank you mr. Weatherman Eventually this will come off alignment Is in the eighth and move all the way across. Eventually this is temporary. Act is access. Okay, okay, yeah, I missed that completely. Do we have some idea of how many residents between the multiple types of homes we'd be looking at in this in this development. For that I'll defer to the applicant on the number of lots and perceived residents. What I will say is our average number of residents per household is 2.96 for anything with two bedrooms and above and 1.6 for anything one bedroom and 1.6 for anything, one Benjamin, studio. Somebody I don't know, somebody have a calculator to figure out how to do that. Yeah, let me, let me have. There's half of people in there. So, let's see. I'd hate to be that 0.96 of a guy. No, I'm using rough numbers here. Maybe around for the single family detached. Again, I can't speculate. I don't know the number of bedrooms per unit that they're building. But yeah. Yeah, I don't need to know down to the point. Yeah, because totally units, let's start. There are 779 units. So if you're roughly at times 2.9, it's going to be over 2,000, roughly 2,000 total residents. Well, residents. Again, you ever take, right? Because you never know. But that's roughly where it's at. OK, that's a lot of people we're throwing. I mean, we're putting right in there. Questions about the Bromley Lane-reposed expansion? And I know you just covered that. And I think you just went too fast for my slow brain. Especially 15th and moving east, say to approximately the Oasis give or take. I've got a vested interest in this in that section of where I live. So I mean what's happening there? What's happening with the with the Oasis that little driveway they've got there 17th Avenue anything? Are we going to six lanes? Are we going to just keep it a four lanes and have some extra access? Current transportation plan is three lanes in each direction which would be six lane with turn movements You want to speak to any of you guys's plan improvements? Air and flutter which is engineering What we proposed is the six lane arterial. Will you come closer to the mic so everyone can hear you? Three lanes in each direction. We do propose three lanes all the way to Oasis. We'll have to redo the traffic signal because it needs to be widened out for the signal. And then from Oasis going east, we'll taper back to the existing pavement. So that's where the cross section kind of ends for the ultimate is basically the oasis access. So you were talking about the traffic signal at the oasis? Yes. So we'll do full improvements all the way to the oasis. Just go away anyway. Just stupidest lap we got done. And just for clarity that's the plant you're building it to the planned cross section part transportation mass plan. This would be one of our largest cross sections that we typically have. Any improvements outside of there as additional developments come and or capital projects by the city do other expansions like a bridge street project that we currently have right now. So we're going to do, we're going to do with Bromley, what we've done with bridge and go from three lanes to two lanes to three lanes to two lanes. Is that, is that the plan? Like the other time. You're going to make incremental improvements over time. That's correct. Okay. There are gaps in, in roadway improvements. And as the comprehensive plan and the code requires development pays its own way. So as we're seeing with with the expansion of bridge there are some capital improvement projects that the city can take on that we have funds for but we can't do everything we do rely on private development investment to expand our infrastructure and get the needed infrastructure that our transportation plan calls for. Okay. Okay. All right. Thanks for that. The back to the traffic circle again. I thought I understood that it was going to be a traffic circle until it got to a point where it needed to be a light. And I hear you say that early on. The internal subdivision will have two traffic circles that'll link to the Western subdivision, South Abromly. At the intersection would exist right now, maybe come a temporary full movement, no traffic circles, just a lot of movement. As the alignment then shifts later, so by the natural grocer as eight, our transportation plan access system would be restricted there and that'll act as just a local street. Okay. No traffic circles around about some wrongly land or planned. Okay. All right. Thank you so much for dollar rating me here. May I pretend? Okay. Thank you. Thanks, all of you for the presentation and for a lot of things to think about. The first thing I want to comment on because this is a public hearing, this is the hearing on accepting the improvements. The zoning discussion was already had some time ago. So, where we would have our three versus our one zoning, that's already done. Where the apartments will sit versus where different kinds of single family residences will sit is already done. That's not today's conversation. We're really focused on what is going to be done to mitigate the impacts of this development on the rest of the community. One comment on development pays its own way and looking for the developers to complete the areas surrounding them and then the gaps between those. I think we need to start looking pretty carefully at, where do we have short-term spaces that are left undeveloped or underdeveloped so that we don't create the problem that we had on Bridge Street. Where do we look at short gaps of Romley that we need to continue and then look to the developer to reimburse us when that time comes as opposed to waiting with two lanes suddenly all of the traffic consolidate into two lanes for six blocks and then spreading back out again on the other side of the signal. It's, it was a long time overdue and then two years of impact on the traffic to look at what we're doing with bridge. I'm assuming but didn't hear you specifically mention Nick, I believe that the traffic impacts that led to these specific road improvements are based on traffic study analysis for The number of homes and the number of residents plan to go in that's correct We we require traffic impact studies at every level of land entitlement So there's one provided the time is zoning and there was one provided with this and it Has an our engineers take a look at that and Dean what is needed of the subdivision planning mitigate its effects. Okay so it wasn't just random that we decided here is where we're gonna have a circle in here is where we're gonna have a light it's based on what the the impact of this is going to be. Okay. Correct sorry it's based on the impact of the development it's also based on what the city needs. So if the traffic master traffic, master transportation, I can't talk. Traffic, traffic matter. Like, say that's transportation master plan. If that requires full arterial and bronomy, three lanes in each direction, then that's what the developers gonna be required to give us. So it's based on what our plans require and what the effects of the subdivision are also. And then there's a portion of that that's our responsibility based on organic growth and a portion that's there's based on what they're adding for the development or is this one of the areas with they're specifically doing this one because it's adjacent to the property and that's the development. It's pay for itself. Because we have a plan we typically will make requests to accommodate our plans and then there's the traffic impacts directly associated with the subdivision which are adding turn pockets and additional lanes sometimes for capacity or maybe a traffic signal because they triggered the need for a traffic. And then what we really look at as a traffic impact fees is basically to pick up as it distributes across the city. So they're not paying like $5 for traffic signal a half a mile two miles away or whatever. And then those traffic impact fees are intended for capacity improvements across the city. Okay. And then there was a phasing map in here that we don't necessarily need to look at, but it looked like it was basically outside Ian in terms of the phasing of activities so that the things that are on the. The roads that face the rest of the community and the rest of us would be using an experiencing increased traffic are the first things that get built and then the internal roads, the internal work to the parcel to the neighborhood follows. That's correct. What staff will do when we first get the subdivision plan proposals, we'll take a look at the phasing plan. They also provide us a general estimate of the cost of each improvement of each phase. What you don't want to see is $100,000 to $200,000 in the first two phases, and then $6 million of improvements in the last two. I don't want't wanna say you wanna heavy stack it on the front, but the city needs to see that the absolutely necessary improvements, which in this case are chambers, brown, me, and some storm stuff, that those are getting built with the first phase of development. So as you mentioned, things are not only served this development, but served the surrounding community as a whole, is generally what is required within the first two phases. Great. Okay. I think you answered the drainage question other than the fact that the negotiation of the agreements for the outfall to the west really reside with the developers and with the metro district at this point is by understanding less so the city. That's correct. We don't participate in that. Park. Sorry. I had one more and you're on the right map for my last question, which had to do with the commercial development because as long as I've looked at the comprehensive plan, this property had residential because it aligned with Chambers as the border of where we had put indigo trails. But looking at this map in the area, sort of with a red square line around it between, say, chambers and about eighth. I believe the top portion of that near Romley is the park that is zoned for commercial developments. It's either mixed, mixed use commercial commercial commercial one of the, I think it's written white striped on the plan and I think that would be mixed use commercial. So there is a commercial area up there at Chambers and and and Bromley and always has been but it's the southwest corner of Chambers and Bromley that has long been commercial the southeast corner has long been residential to line up with the Indigo trails neighborhood south of that at least as long as I've been this paying attention to this, but I also know that Mr. Gonzalez and Jan have been here since roughly the dawn of time and that things may have changed a little bit in that course. Okay, and then I'll just close back to the beginning. Zoning is not the question tonight. This is, these are the right improvements at this point in time in plating to accommodate the impact of what we've already approved. That's correct. The subdivision plan, and as mentioned, the subdivision plan's already been approved by the Plane Commission. This hearing was for acceptance of the public facilities and public lands. Excellent. And then, okay, good. So this is the acceptance of the public land. This isn't even the other piece. The other thing will just be a final note of appreciation for the fact that the open space is at roughly twice what we mandate, but is also very much lined into our plan. But the wide trail is a roundulton Ditch and tying into, it's actually tying into the mattingly open space on the north side of Bromley, because that's what the Fulton Ditch follows. So this particular trail is tying into that. It doesn't tie into the memorial parkway, but it is tying up into our existing trail system at the mattingly open Space and Observatory Park. If I'm looking at the map correctly here. That's correct. You can kind of see up here at Observatory Park. The trail comes down and it deals with some sidewalk and some crossing here on Brawmay. But then it crosses down to the Fulton Ditch or at the Oasis and continues all the way to Chambers. Chambers will have a trail as well too, which will just make it a huge trail connection internal to the development. You're gonna trade out that lovely piece of asphalt, not connected to anything. They will be required to build a concrete trail. I thought that was the final plan for that. Okay, yes. No, but I wanna out it with that is that this does tie very much into our trail system does tie into our parks. It just doesn't happen to tie directly into the Memorial Parkway at 13th. It's tying into the space farther to the east. Okay, that's all I had. Thank you. Just for clarification for everyone, our video went down earlier, but I got where that's back up. So there's probably a few minutes gap in our meeting. If you look at the recording. Council member Fiddler. Thank you Mayor. Just some thanks. So first of all, thanks to staff. Thoughtful. So when I was running on a post, I said I think the Brighton's gonna continue to grow when you do that thoughtfully. I think this is a thoughtful growth when I thank the applicant for their thoughts. It's thoughtful, it's well done. I want to thank Mr. Gonzalez for continuing to be a trusted ear and voice for the citizens of Brighton which I mean that's sincerely and Jan I appreciate your comments as well. Two questions. Which what do you think for the developer? What do you think your capital outlay is to do all the things that you're going to be required to do before you can sell house? And then I heard Metro District. You guys are Metro District? Are you going to recoup your costs? I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm going to be able to answer that. I'm trying to clarify if they are going to recoup their investment by selling homes Or if they're going to tax those 2000 residents separately Through a metro district Good question I'm in differing because I don't live I won't live in that metro district But I'm curious for those that might be buying homes there Craig Campbell with the developer this evening. Thank you for the question. Sorry for the pause. We're trying to figure that number out. We don't have that final number for. Basically, as a developer, what you look at is, yeah, what is the full horizontal development cost? And then the home vertical cost is part of the home price. So we had projections, I I believe in our district service plan of roughly 45 to 50 million for just the improvements available to be funded through the district or bonded through the district. That doesn't include additional things that are not allowed to be included in those costs. So that number, again, for just the horizontal development is in my estimation of the lot counts we have and whatnot is going to be north of $65 million mostly. Thank you. So two points to my question. Number one, it's a significant investment in the city of Brighton. I'm grateful for that. But curious on the back end about how you recoup those costs., well, part of that's why housing is so expensive in Colorado. Literally, uh, someone was asking, can we do $200,000 homes here? To be quite honest, the full cost of a finished lot with fees that has to be paid, a building permit, and whatnot, not including any vertical costs, but the land development and the fees will be $200,000. So if you sell a house for $200,000, you're gonna lose quite a bit of money selling that house because of the cost of the houses and including that. Or you put a foundation down. Thank you Greg, I appreciate it. Thank you. All right, so next before we go on to round two, I got a couple things so if you go to slide eight We're on 34 now according to this Wanted while you're going there. I do appreciate all comment. We'll call God I do appreciate that we are having phase one Towards the the front end here Yeah, there it is I mean that's where a lot of the traffic is gonna start if you're gonna have the multifamily housing. It's appropriate in my view to have it near the major intersection. If you look at some other developments in our city, one example is Brighton East Farms. They built a lot of single family homes, and then the developer finally put in the multifamily homes that are still under construction today in the middle of a lot of single family homes and I think it's better that it's near the major Thuroways or traffic purposes So if we're gonna have multifamily homes that would be the appropriate place and I appreciate you showing phase two three four five, etc. Oh appreciate you showing phase two, three, four, five, etc. Oh, I guess it's two, three and four, not five. I don't see a five here that they already know if they're going to buy their single family home, there's already multifamily homes near that front entry corner as well. Um, I have one little question here. There's a penny lane. There's already a penny lane in our city. I think that might be confusing if we're naming another penny lane, just like we already have an ego boulevard in Eagle Avenue, or Eagle Road I think is called. So we may want to consider it an alteration on that. Absolutely. At the time of, this is all conceptual. When I say conceptual, it more or less will look like this, including the street names The final plait will determine the actual street names and when the final if and when the final plait gets approved and Recorded with the county will finalize those names and coincidentally, I do have a meeting tomorrow with GIS to coordinate street names here. So thank you I'll be sure that's a name. I get it for the lines in the same Longitude latitude, but this would not so thank you Maybe Emma well Emma's dog's name is Penny. So she might not want this move. Oh, man. Sorry, Emma or Demario. I think we can go with that one. We're going to go around to Councilwoman Polaski. Thank you, Mayor. One of the other things that I wanted to bring up while we've got all council members here and And the audience that's with us tonight When I was chairman of the Parks and Rec board. I helped pass a three-quarter cent sales tax Because we knew we were going to grow obviously we're growing We've grown we're what almost 50,000 now we will add this development You go down further down chamber to the south and there's a huge development coming in there and you keep going out to pray. I mean, we're talking about growth here for many, many years to come. I hope it's many years. I hope it isn't all of a sudden. But anyway, we need another recreation center and I don't know if that's even been taken into consideration anywhere or not when you're doing this growth. And that three-quarter cent sales tax was non-retiring so that could happen. So I just wanted to throw that out there for everybody to understand we need to be thinking about not only traffic, growth, whatever, we need to be thinking about getting that done too. Thank you. And then councilman McGreen. Thank you mayor. Again I just want to point out what we're looking at here. That outfall is also eligible for reimbursement. That's correct. And is that a percentage or the full cost of that would be eligible for reimbursement? That will be up to this body to decide. It will be up to this body to decide. It will be up to this body to decide. And that money comes from the city's coffers. What staff will do is the developer of the applicant will submit a reimbursement agreement application to us. And we'll begin drafting a reimbursement agreement to what they desire and what staff desires. We will then bring it to this body for consideration. And it will be up to this body to decide the amount of that reimbursement. OK. And there was a long list of them. So several of those millions could come from the city, not necessarily just from the developer. And is there a time limit for that? As other developments start to tap into that, is that when we start making a concern for that or as soon as they're done building it, could they can do it? So, I'm making sure I understand the question correctly. If we're talking about the stormwater outfall, that obviously goes from this development all the way to Sable. So are you referring to if those properties in between develop, do we recoup the cost? Right. Is there something where we get some of that from them? Typically when we have a situation such as this where they're building infrastructure that benefits many properties, many of whom are vacant, when they develop and have a development agreement, most of the time, if not all the time, the city will require reimbursement back to us. So that's one way where we can get some of that reimbursement cost rather than just taking it from our budget. Correct. Right. Uh, and again, I still think MLA would be great. Thank you. All right. Councilmember Snyder. Thank you, Mayor. I just had one question. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm just sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you public hearing and gone into council questions. Can we close the public hearing and move on to that? We'll close the public hearing and go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. The question I have, and I'm sure you can't answer it completely because it depends on market conditions and demand, but is there some kind of a time frame this many years to this many years that they expect the total build out of this development to take. I'll defer to the upper and that. We would say it's about a year per phase for land development and then the home sales. We would like to, you know, considering just a common average market if there is such a thing in home sales. I would guesstimate there's about three sales a month, so 36 to, you know, 40 units on an annual basis, 40 to 50 units perhaps. So the roughly 450 single family units would, you could see, take, you know, a number of years there. So we're not talking about time and develop as the rest of the properties around it develop very much so. All right. This is now before council for consideration. If there's no other questions. Mayor pro tem. Mayor pro tem. Mayor pro tem. Mayor pro tem. Mayor pro tem. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, and I appreciate all of the people who've contributed to the conversation. And all of that said I would move item 6A. Then Council Member Tadeo. Thank you, Mayor, I'll second that. There's a move to item. There's a proper first and a second for item 6A. If there's no other questions, we'll call both. Oh, and it sounds like we need to do actually a voice vote. Is that right? Madam City click no. Okay, we can actually vote. Okay. Oh, so according to city manager Martinez, this may not record so we still need to do a voice vote. the so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so the clerk will you conduct that please? Mayor Mills? Yes. Mayor Pro Tempethia? Yes. Council Member Fiddler? Yes. Council Member Green? She. Council Member Pulaski? No. Council Member Snyder? Yes. Council Member today? Yes. Council Memberder. Yes. Councilmember today. Yes. Councilmember Worth. Yes. Our motion passes 721. 721, thank you. We will take a break as we... Thank you.