Good morning ladies and gentlemen, Denton County Commission's Court for Tuesday, May 26, 2009 is now in session. This morning, an indication to be given by James Wells, our county auditor and our pledges will be led by Bennett Hall, our county engineer. Will you please stand? You pray with me. Our dear Heavenly Father, we come before you in all of your power and the fact that you're the God of all creation that you control all things on this earth, in every life here. We also praise you that you're God of love, willing to come down to each and every one of us and offer your love and salvation to us. We thank you so much this day after yesterday that you let us live in a land of freedom and let us today, yesterday pause. Have a day off and a day of vacation but really to honor the sacrifice of those who guaranteed our salvation by giving them the ultimate and giving their life for us that we may enjoy these freedoms. Let him never forget that and always be thankful for it. Watch over everyone here today. Give them give our leaders wisdom. Give us all safety and protect us from sin and bring us back next time and cross name we pray. Amen. Can you please join me in the play? Congratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all honor the effects flag Appuagely to the Excess one stay under God one in indivisible Thank you gentlemen Item one is for public input for items that are listed on the agenda If there's any member of the public that would like to address commissioners court, we ask that you please complete a public comment form available from the aid to the court. We'd be glad to hear from you to remind everyone to please turn off your cell phones and pages. Item 2 is the consent agenda members of our items on the consent agenda that you need to pull for discussion. Or do we have a motion for approval? Motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Second. Second by Commissioner Marchand. All in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed sitting. Motion does carry. Consent agenda today consists of two a which is the order making appointments. We have We have two of them were pulled, but we have one promotion for an opposed to judication. We have a new hire in juvenile detention, a new hire in post-judication, and three new hires in the county jail. 2B is approval of the Intra Departmental Transfers. 2C is approval of payroll. 2D is approval of Board of BID for a hot mixed asphalt concrete, this is bid number 04091968 to the Lane Construction Corp as primary and juggle public company as secondary. 2E is approval of renewal for vehicle parts, bid number 09081940 with Napa Auto Parts, 2F is approval of budget amendment request 101-7-0 for miscellaneous genital supplies for facilities management in the amount of $3,500. 3A is approval of resolution approving the draft income area 9-1-1 district fiscal year 2010 financial plan pursuant to the Texas Health and Safety Code chapter 7-7-2 as amended and providing an effective date. And I will read the resolution resolution of the Denton County Commissioners Court approving the draft income area 9-1-1 district fiscal year 2010 financial plan pursuant to the Texas Health and Safety Code chapter 7-7-2 is amended and providing an effective date, whereas DENCO, I'm sorry, whereas the DENTON County Commissioners Court has been presented the draft DENCO Area 9-1-1 fiscal year 2010 financial plan for consideration in accordance with 7-7-2.309 Texas Health and Safety Code is amended. Now therefore, the DENTON County Commissioners Court of Texas here by Resolve, Section 1, that the Denton County Commission's Court hereby approves the financial plan. Section 2, that this resolution shall become effective immediately from and after its passage, done in open court today, the 26th of May 2009, the Chair will move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, other questions or comments? Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye, opposed, any? Motion does carry. 5A is approval of the bill, report payments from CSCD, Community Corrections, TIP, Shares Training, Shares, Forefisher, VIT, Interest, DA Check, V, and DA Forefisher. Forefisher funds are presented for recording purposes only. We also have the Auditor's Monthly Financial Report for the month of April 2009 that is presented for recording purposes only. Well, James Wells. Good morning, Judge. Commissioners, I'd ask Court to prove the bills with the two editions, note a separate page. Just two payments we've been asked to expedite for the D.A.'s office and in some training. Thank you. Other questions of the auditor? Do we have a motion for approval? Motion by Commissioner Ead. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Here are no questions. All in favor, please say aye. Aye, opposed to any? Motion does carry. 6A is approval of drawing lots for tie bids as per section 262.027B. Award of Moving Services, election supplies, bid number 03091963. We have obviously two people here, one's jury, and the other one's Texas moving company. Beth conveniently made up two tabs here with the, I will just confirm that we didn't write the same name twice. We have a jury in Texas moving. Okay, I'm going to close it up, Bobby. And I'm going to switch them around here a few times. I'm going to let you draw one. Okay. You can look. You can see. All right. It is. Dairy. Dairy moving and storage. We need a motion for approval of the board for that bid. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. Motion does carry. Members in consideration of their time, I'd like to move over to 13b. 13b is approval. Change order number four. Any amount of $26,000 for the didn't kind of administrative complex phase one. Where's Danny? Did he just walk out? He walked out. Yeah, they're both out in my home. I didn't see you walk out. I'm sorry. I just called on 13 B. Sorry about that. All right. We found it. Members, you have information in your backup material on the agenda. Do we have questions of Danny and Colin Talley is here also? Do we have questions? I don't think we even have questions, Danny. Do you want to state what it is? Well, basically what it is is the 12 inch water main that we're having to put in whenever it was bit out, we had to do some discovery work before we issued it. And what we found is whenever Tex Scott put that road in, there was a lot of other utilities that no one was aware of. So we had to go down and blow. And then we ended up having to go deeper with a bore at Katrina. Katrina? Yeah. Which, going deeper, we had to up size to sleeve the motion. Yeah. Which going deeper we had to up size the sleeve and then do a bunch of bracing of the dig. Thank you. Do we have a motion for approval? Motion by commissioner Eans. Seconded by commissioner Marchant. Questions. All right. All in favor of the motion. Please say aye. Aye. Opp right. All right. All in favor of the motion. Please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the motion does carry. And we have a quite just a discussion on the same subject. Yeah. Driven out there a couple of times. Are we? Are we doing all the dirt work for the entire, or we're doing the dirt work for phase one and phase two. I mean it advised me, you know I told you what are we doing over there? Are we doing it for both those phases? What we did is and how it can maybe give more of a detail but what we had to do How to maybe give more of a detail, but what we had to do is since we wasn't able to do yet the drainage with the pond, we had to go across the road to get the dirt. Okay, so yes, in a roundabout way, yes we are. It is that what they removed is to grade yes. That's all I want to know. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Any other questions? Believe not. Thank you for being here, Halden. Also consideration of his time, let's go to 12B, which is approval of 2009 Cod ARA Recovery Act grant application. This is for courthouse security and forensic investigation Equipment other questions on this item. Do we have a motion for approval? Motion by Commissioner Marchant Chair will second it other questions Hearing none on favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed, any? Motion does carry. Thank you. Okay. Now we'll go back. Item 7, 7A, which is approval of Budget Amendment request 101180 for salary assistance benefits for facilities management in the amount of $61,484. Donna is looking for a little more explanation. He's getting Danny too. I have a new line. I don't, I mean. If you'd like me to start off, I can, our office was updating our Souria Trition report and noticed a significant shortfall in the facilities management department and we contacted Danny and asked him to process a budget amendment. This is projected shortage that they need funds for for the remainder of the year and the amount of $61,484. I asked Danny to provide some more specific backup and he's included that in the packet for you to see the types of projects that they're working overtime on. But I felt like it was so far over budget the court needed to be aware of the address the situation now rather than wait till the end of the year. Any other questions or any more clarification needed? Do I have a motion for? Okay, we have another question. Go ahead, Bobbie. Over time, use the open and close in up to then. Can the government send the hand government send after five? You have meetings there which was to build and go and place 148. There's over time used for the old men in closing the then county government center and the horn government center after five PM. Yes some of it is for after ours uses, but we lock those two facilities. Okay, if you go and lock those two facilities. People don't lock them when they leave. We lock those. And one of the things I'd like to let y'all know is that you can see that most of the money that I've moved is out of some of the utility lines, which I'm going to give Bill Newman the credit for that and court whenever y'all gave us those utility conservation. We've been able to save some funding and we were able to use that money for the overtime. Thank you. I think for the questions. I'm going to talk to you later about this item, Danielle. For days, okay. Yeah, and this reflects like if you're looking, I mean, if if, if, if, for instance, the patching, paying the cost of office at St. James Jacobs government center 57. That's man hours that may be, I mean, you may have three or four people working on that. So that may be a two eight hour days, right? Yes. I think it should be pointed out that things like replacing the carpet at the Lewisville Child Protectors Services and been the colony and painting facilities after hours on the weekends. If we had contracted that out to another company, yes, you would save money on our facilities over time, but you'd be spending more to have the work done by an outside contractor. So I think yes it does cost us an overtime but I think our bottom line overall I think we saved money doing that. On a lot of those projects Judge were whenever we had contractors in after hours someone has to be there. Sure. So. But you also did a lot of work too. Yes. In some cases. And a lot of times the guys do work whenever they're there. But a lot of it is whenever, you know, what's the security of a lot of our facilities, we can't just let vendors. All right. We have a motion and a second, I believe. We don't. Okay. We need a motion and a second. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Are there further questions? Any none on favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Any motion is carried. 7B is approval of Budget Amendment of quest 1011010 zero. For part time, salary benefits for criminal district attorney in the amount of $5,140. Chair, move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, are there questions? Here none all in favor please say aye. Aye opposed any? Motion does carry. 7C is approval of budget amendment request 101-2000 for software maintenance, including the transfer of funds from district clerk's records management on appropriated contingency in the amount of $500. Motion by commission or eeds, seconded by commission or Mitchell. Questions here, none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion to carry. 7D is approval. Budget amendment request 101-210. To increase revenues and advocate expenditures for various line items, including the creation of new line items for grant purposes for fiscal year 2008-2009. For 2008 Homeland Security Grant, we're a total of $523,778. Approval. Commissioner Eads made the motion. Commissioner Marching, seconded are the questions. Here none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion carries. 7E is approval. Budget amendment request. 101, 220 for softlaw maintenance, including the transfer of funds from district clerk's records management, unappropriated contingency for a total of $1,500. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Questions? Hearing none, on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion is carried. Mr. Marchant, questions? If you're none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Motion is carried. 7F has approved setting the fee for 2009 tax collection contracts with other taxing entities at the rate of 74 cents per parcel. We have good backup material. And on this subject, I think they're still getting a good bang for the motion back commission or eeds, seconded by Commissioner Marchin. Other questions? Here we let the entities know with so much process that we're raising it. You're saying be sure to let them know. So yeah, legal is prepared to do their new collection contacts for the next year. And we had to have this decision made before they could get the contracts out. Any other comments? Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? And aye. Motion does carry. Incidentally, they're collecting for 69 entities this coming year. The cities, counties, schools, freshwater supply districts, mud districts, whatever. That's a lot. Just for comparison, when I first went into the tax office in 1993, Didn't County collected for eight jurisdictions besides the county? Save a lot of people, a lot of money. 8A is to approve the changes to the job description for the science specialist. One, Commissioner Marchin. I just saw this not here and have a ton of questions for him. And I do have a lot of questions for him. I would rather table this and apologize. I've not got a hold of him yet. So I have this week to talk to him. I don't understand. This is two sets of job skills and I don't understand what he's doing here. We can hold this and if you would let a know I will if we can get it well Let's see it won't go on next week because Yeah, that's okay And I apologize for not getting with him prior to the day, but okay, there'll be no action on 8 a then getting with him prior to today but. Okay, there will be no action on 8A then. Um, let's go to items 8. We have BCDEF and G. Let me just read all these for a record. 8B is approved changing from a step plan approach to an open range approach for the majority of employees. 8C is approved placing law enforcement personnel on a separate pay scale and maintaining the step plan approach for these classifications. 8D is approved the integration of information technology positions into the general employee pay scale. 8E is approved the establishment of two executive pay bands for designated senior management jobs and use these bands to set perimeters for senior management salaries. 8F is approved changing the attorney pay plan from a step plan approach to an open range approach. And 8G is approved the paid plans recommended with temporary revision submitted by human resource. I can't talk today. Submitted by human resources, the minimums and midpoints will be corrected in steps added when funds allow. Why don't we take the easy ones first? Maybe they're easy. Maybe they're easy and easy one. Let's discuss 8D, which is concerning the integration of information technology positions into the journal employee pay scale. We have Kevin Carr here today. Kevin, do you want input on this before we take action? Okay. Back of motion commission approve. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Marchant, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Hearing no discussion on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Sen. Motion does carry. ATE is approved the establishment of two executive pay bans for designated senior management job and use these bans to set parameters for senior management salaries. Is there a discussion on this particular item or do we have them? Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Marchin. Ron E. We have a motion by Commissioner Marchin. Is there a second? Seconded by Commissioner E. Is there a discussion? Here none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Sen. Motion does carry. Now we're coming back to that. 8F is approved changing the attorney pay plan from step approach to an open range approach. Is there discussion on this item? Or do we have a motion? I just wanted to know is there a representative from the DA's office who wants to address that today? Okay. Why didn't know if you don't want to address it, Kim? All right. I can motion your approval. I just thought if they wanted to have input, they'd come over and tell us. We've been talking with, Jamie's been talking back and forth with HR monitoring it all the way through. They're okay with this. Send emails and yeah, from what I've seen there. Thank you. We have a motion by commission march and seconded by commission Mitchell. Is there further discussion or other questions? You're a none on favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion is carried. I have a question. Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Any questions? Just for clarification, my members, this item of B, 8B, by voting for it, what we're doing, I'm assuming what we're doing here. We're accepting the recommendation of the consultant, not only for this pay plan, but we're also accepting by the approval of this, the reclassification of our employees as well. Okay. And I know that Amy and Friday stated there was fears, not the right word, but concern or whatever we wouldn't have an outline for them to go by. Let me throw this out there. What if, I mean, we've just gone through this entire process for the consultants and the recommendation of reclassification. My understanding all the jobs have been reclassified. So the process of even looking at reclassifications have already been done unless they're specific reclassifications. And we could probably cut down a lot of sweat, if you would, and hard work on considering reclassifications as it relates to new job reclassifications. That's already, that's part of the recommendation by freezing any reclassification request in this next budget process. Is that correct? Part of the budget, yeah. Part of the budget. So by this, if we adopt this and approve it, then we are already reclassifying all jobs. And to, if, even if we didn't vote on B, that's why I was asking Friday if you could separate the two of with that. One is whether or not they're on the step plan of the range and two is. Proving or not approving the reclassification. That's right. And if we separated the two and approved the reclassification and put a freeze on the job classification during the budget process, there wouldn't be that issue of what do you go off of. You go off the new one, but you don't reclass anybody, because they already been done. I'm throwing that out there, folks. Okay, are you saying that we would use the reclassif, the new one that was recommended by Evergreen? Okay. Yes. I think the only point in time you would need to do that if you freeze reclasses, you'd need to have the ability to rank any new position that might be created or requested on behalf of a department that had not been ranked. That might be the only opportunity you would need to use the new system in order to determine what the job classification grade would be. Explain to me that process, the ranking. What it is is the department fills out a questionnaire, which is we just got through doing. And then we will have a new software program where we will go in and we will go through the questionnaire and put into the software program things that have come off the questionnaire. And that's what we do is we come up with the with the ranking and that's the way we've had in the in the past we've had another another system that we've done but it's very outdated. If we did so if we adopt all this today there would not be a necessity to do that this summer unless the department initiated that. That's correct. That's correct. There already would be other opinion that we've already up to date. We have to do that this summer unless the department initiated that. That's correct. There already would be other opinions that we've already up to date. We have already looked at all of the jobs. We have new job descriptions. We have new pay grades for the classifications. This is all been done and we're in the process of right now of having those ready for those to be looked at by the individual departments. Then my question would be if you separated those as two actions you could actually vote on the reclass and not vote on saying that we do this I'm just throwing it out there, you could actually vote on the reclassification and not vote on the open range. The open ranges are they have given us pay ranges so we have a pay range for the group that's in, in this time we're starting with one where we started before in 10. So we have a pay range of one. So the people that have been reclassified, then they fall into that pay range, a pay range one. Okay. On down to, I believe this time we have like 20 pay ranges. So we need to adopt the ranges as well as the classifications because that all works together. Not any. I'm sorry. Have it. We think they're separate. Well, yeah, we do need to take it separate. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Have it. Okay. We need to take it separate if that's what you want to do. What she's saying is that you can't do one without the other. Yeah, because all the classifications and the pay ranges go together with the new classes with the pay scale. Okay. Any other comments, questions? Input. What's your thinking? Well, the B and C, I think we may need to take C first, looking at the language of B, unless the motion would be revised on B to say all if it was the intent of the court to put everybody in one plan. That's true. That's true. That's good. That was a good point Andy. I didn't end thought about it like that. Every way you want to approach it. I'll go ahead and make a motion and then I'll follow up with some comments. To approve changing from a step plan approach to an open range approach for all employees in any appropriate action. What was some comment? for all employees in any appropriate action. But some comment. We have a motion by Commissioner Eads. Second by Commissioner Mitchell under comments, Commissioner Eads. I, um, I did a lot of thinking about this the last few weeks, and especially over the weekend, the concerns of the Sheriff's Department and our public safety overall. And listening to their concerns, and I think their concerns are the same ones that I have, and I believe the court has after listening to our work session. I think that both of our concerns are the same concerns. I don't think we're at opposing views. I think there is some question about how do we get there. And I think actually those are minor as far as whether it be a step plan approach versus an open range. And I think there's listening to the sheriff from Mr. Howell's comments on Friday, both in the private meeting and also in our public meeting thinking about this. I think there's three points that are of great concern. Number one is I think fair, I'm not speaking for them, I'm saying this is what I picked up in the meetings. And these are what I, these are my values as we go forward with this. Number one is fair compensation for all of our employees throughout the county. And number two would be maintaining internal equity. And I think fair compensation number one deals with outside equity as far as where are they being compensated fairly in the marketplace. And I think that we realize after the study that there are positions in the Sheriff's Department that are lacking. And I think that I, Friday made a commitment and I think there was a sentiment among the court that we address those. So number one, I think fair compensation outside. Number two is internal equity. I think we need to maintain our internal equity within our departments, within our pay scales, our pay grades. Number three is compression and preventing compression. I think that's a real priority that Evergreen identified. HR has told us this year and year out, budget has told us this year and year out. And so that's kind of the third key point that we have to deal with. Now how do we address those three? By doing the open range approach, I believe that allows the departments and the court the flexibility to move people and promote people through to prevent, to number one, make us more competitive. Number two, maintain internal equity and number three to prevent compression. I think the consultant identified these as open ranges of method to do that. I think that they hold up initially was culturally and understand that when you recruit individuals, you do want to be able to provide them a relative, a pace scale of where they can be in future years. I think the fact that public safety wants to do that is great and we want them to be able to attract new talent and come on board and let them have some reasonable assurance. And that same commitment or desire for that commitment goes for every one of our hiring managers throughout the county. They want to be able to do that. I think it's going to be difficult for any court to make a commitment Of what we're we're going to be next year the year in the future year three four and five it that's that's tough I've been on here. This is you know ours going at our third budget year on this court You know we we've compensated the employees differently each time I believe so It's hard to make that commitment. And if we can't do that, if we can't make a pledge to do 4%, then we're going to go back into a compression, which I think is a very real problem we have to deal with. So I believe doing this, doing this, and I still think departments could do scales and kind of show brackets of likely where you would be in year 2, 3, 4, 5 based on if the court was doing 4% raises really. That's just as binding as what we have now really, I mean I think this plan will prevent some of the problems that we're dealing with now. So I don't know if we want to agree with me or not. I would like to say that I agree with your position on that. Who knows what next year and now years are going to bring to us but I think having the scale for everybody allows us the flexibility us commissioners core at the flexibility in a year where maybe we can't give raises but we do have some funds we can first priority for me would be to address the equity adjustments, not only the law enforcement, but there's probably some in other departments too. That would be a priority for me to adjust those first. Then if there's additional funds to give them across the board, raise to all employees, that's the way that I would like to address it. Because law enforcement, although we've been addressing that year after year, we haven't addressed it enough to solve the problem. And I think it's important that we do that. So I think this is gonna give us the best tools to be able to deal with the situation. Now anytime you go to a new plan, there's gonna be some issues, there's gonna be some issues, there's gonna be some problems, and we need to keep an open mind, and be ready to address those as they come up. But I think this gives us the greatest flexibility to deal with some long-time issues. Trying to push. Mr. Marchin? Yeah, I, the only thing that I wish, that you don't, I don't want to put you in this position, but I would rather voted on C first to see the feeling of the court before we voted on B. And believe me, if the C had failed that give everybody the opportunity to totally embrace B. I don't mind what you're on. I'm voting in. I don't mind what you're on my motion. There's a motion on the. Well, I don't mind what you're on my motion. I'll make a motion. I'll ask that commissioner Eads withdrew his motion. Commissioner Mitchell withdrew his motion. I'll make a motion to approve placing law enforcement personnel on a separate pay scale and may attain the step plan approach for these classifications. That's second. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Marchant. That is actually on 8C to place law enforcement personnel on the separate pay scale and maintain the step plan approach for these classifications. Discussion on this item. The only thing I have to say is I think we thoroughly discuss this last Friday and I believe for methods of compensation and from a legal aspect as they are treated differently by the fair labor standards. These two groups of employees although they're all equal in the eyes of the commissioners court I think they just need to be compensatedly compensated in a different manner. I listened to the same discussion as you did on Friday. Obviously I picked up something different than you did. The more I listened to our sheriff and we held the more I felt like they were making the case for the scale rather than the step plan. But addressing just the concerns that you're bringing up, I think we have more flexibility to do that under the scale and equity adjustments than we do in the step plan. The step plan is pretty rigid, and I think we have more of an opportunity to address specifically the issues that you bring up, Commissioner Coleman, so for that reason, I'm not gonna be supporting the motion. I think those are very valid points. I just think that there will be some short term gain by law enforcement, but long term it would help the county have them on a more rigid step point. All right, is there any further discussion? Commissioner Eans. And I agree with you, Commissioner Coleman, as far as they're treated differently in so many different ways. And I was never in public safety, but my family, a lot of my family members are in and I have fondness for public safety and this is not directed to be viewed negatively by them. This is actually, if we have, I think compression is an overwhelming issue that we have to deal with. When you listen to the Sheriff's Office talk about different people with different seniority being working the scenes and so forth. Well, if you're having difficult times and different budget years and you're not able to give people raises, you'll have a compression issue there where you're more senior people will not be compensated more Like are not being compensated more than your new folks. And so I think in the judge I agree with the judge and her comments and I said this Friday that I think the very first thing we need to do next year is Look at our look at our where our pay Skills are for our public safety where are any any of our positions at our below market? And we number one address those first. I think that's our first money should be spent on those individuals and bringing them up to par. And then evaluating everyone else. And I think looking at the Evergreen study, and as they identify a different systematic approach that we go out every year, every other year identifying key positions and keeping those on markets so we don't run into this problem in the future. It's exactly what we do with public safety and we can continue to make those market adjustments. So I don't, I think this gets us to market faster and gets individual key people rewarded more for their longevity and for being here, then stick and preventing compression to the opposite. I think it's two different vehicles that are both heading to the same place and how do you get there. I think this one actually gives you more flexibility. So that's what I think that they'll actually appreciate this over time, I think, because I think it'll allow them, again, more flexibility. So that's why I would advocate for it. I think any other questions or comments? OK, we'll call the question. All in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Question all in favor of the motion please say aye aye aye Posting name name motion fails two in favor three of pros Now commissioner Eads If you want to restate your other motion This is for 8b. I would approve Change from a step plan approach to an open range approach for all employees in any appropriate action. Seconded by Commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, under comments, Commissioner Mitchell. On the non-grade positions that I talked about on Friday with the doctors, Sure, Daniel, would you explain this to me for a please? Right now, the physicians, the health authority, the dentist and the primary care physicians are not included in the plan. They do not have a pay grade. We will be getting software program to be able to go in and do reclassifications and put different, we could put these people into a pay grade if that's what the court would like to have done. I can see how the equipment was filled that I'm sorry to know how the equipment was filled about when they get the software going back putting them into a big great. Mr. Marchant agrees. This way we will have we will have job descriptions and we will have a pay grade for these three positions. Mr. E positions. Mr. Reads? Yes? Okay, we have a motion and a second on the floor. So for the discussion, questions, you clear? I just wanted to say that. So basically we're moving forward with not a binding commitment, but a commitment that we will do our best to try and take care of the equity issues and the compression that's happening within our law enforcement. That would be my priority commissioner and do that first. I said that Friday, I was the first one to say. With the qualifier, if there's funds. Yeah, if there's money available, we're not going to do it if we can. I think that's something we need to, in February when Donna does her goals for the court for the budget year, I think that there needs to be one of the goals that we articulate that we remedy that situation. All employees. All employees. I think there was key ones, there was a captains in the sergeants, those were some key positions that were below market that we need to address. The lieutenant's in sergeants, yeah. Again. And it's in sergeants. In sergeants. Okay. Mr. Martin. And that's why I wanted to treat as a separate issue and I'm And I will wholly support 8B because I believe that if we're not going this route, that I believe that the sheriff and us as well want to do the best for the employees. And because of that, we will be motivated on if we go with the open range to do everything possible to make sure that the employees have every opportunity, even beyond the step plan that I supported earlier. And I think there's a commitment from this commission, of commission court to do that. But we will need to do is to take the law enforcement positions that were in a separate classification because those started with 104 to 115 or something and then maybe put those in with the same as the others. Donna. If I could, I don't mean to really not my item, but I did talk with Amy about the possibility of leaving them as 101 through 117 so that in the future, if the court ever chose to go outside that any differently or if law enforcement, you wanted to look at giving them a different percentage increase or that's a way to identify law enforcement separate from the others. Although their scale right now would be exactly the same as the other scales. It might be be who of us to keep them separate. So in the future we don't have to identify them. As an identifier. With the court changes your position. That'd be easy for you all to manage. It would be easier I think for us to manage. I agree. I would say that she didn't know what it ended up. I don't know before she left. That's fine. I see everybody's shaking their head. Yes. Consensus of opinion is yes. We'll leave it that way. All right. Is there any further discussion on this motion? No. In favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Motion to secure you now. Sleeve, thank you. Okay. 8G is approved. The pay plans recommended with temporary revisions submitted by human resources. The minimums and midpoint will be corrected. The staffs added when funds allow. Kind of a midpoint, isn't it? But we'll take official action. Chair will move for approval second and by commissioner marching discussion. You none all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Posting in motion is carried. Okay. 10 a is approval of Denton County's participating in the North Texas State Fair and Rodeo on August 21 through 29 2009 with an information booth. We have Bennett Howell here. Anybody that hasn't done this, you need to do it. It's a lot of fun. Thank you Judge, thank you commissioners. Again, I bring this before the court for approval. It is the annual State fair we do have an information booth county fair Bang fair. Sorry and the way that the public works department We usually man it one night and then we send invitations to the other departments to see if they want to man the booths and usually it's we haven't had a problem on participation Usually it's we have to share booth and because everybody wants to be involved We don't pay for this booth doing no man all the fees that should be pointed out and this year the fair is August 21st to the 29th Thank you are there questions or comments for do we have a motion for approval? Motion by Commissioner Marchand. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. local agreement between Denton County and North Central Texas Council of the Government for use of a Denton County terror site to provide effective regional interoperable communications. Ellen Williams, back there. Do you have any comments? I'd like to put you right on the spot. Morning down. more commissioners? Judge, this has been a multi-year interoperability project that's been started by the North Central Texas Council of Governments whose goal is to fit in with the state mandates from the governor's office that by the year 2015 that the state of Texas will be well within its way of implementing a statewide standards-based communication system. And this here's the first step in the North Texas area. And as part of the first phase, the COG is selected Ditton County, Collin County, Dallas County, and Tarrant County to be the first core sites as it's starting to build out this system. What's your tower? We're going to put it on. After the COG's consultants extensively looking at the sites available in Ditten County, spending determined that our tower site at the emergency operations center, which has also be a federally funded tower, is the optimum site to provide the best coverage as it compares to the sites at Collin County, Tarrant County and Dallas County. Questions, so do we have a motion? Motion for approval by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Eans. Here, no further comments, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Motion is carried. thank you for being 13 a is approval of reassignment of various boards and committees Commissioner Coleman I had sent him an email concerning now one of the committees that I was on and that is Dr. Texas Commission I the committees that I was on and that is drug Texas Commission. I will tell you that that's a very interesting committee because it's not only elected officials from the whole region. It's Chambers of Commerce, Dallas, Fort Worth, Black Chamber, Hispanic Chamber, it's the universities, it's a business community, so it really helps you stay up with what's going on and it's informative. An example of that commissioner Coleman is when I was at a meeting prior to the November elections, we had representatives of Parkland Hospital there promoting their bond election. Okay? Well, much to their dismay, I saved their paperwork that they handed out to citizens promoting their November bond election to raise money for Parkland while the citizens should be in favor of raising their taxes in Dallas County to support this. Welcome the legislative session and there's a couple of different bills on the agenda as far as trying to get money from the surrounding counties. I took their promotional literature from November with me to the committee hearing much to their dismay because I will quote one little section down here. This is their ad piece and at the bottom, they've always questioned the answers here. And in the bottom, it says, as a Dallas County taxpayer would say, why should I pay to take care of people who don't live in Dallas County? The answer is, that's a huge misperception. More than 90% of the patients treated at Parkland residing Dallas County and of the 10% that do not, most are at Parkland to be treated in our regional trauma or burn units. In those instances, patients' individual insurance policies often cover the treatment cost at no burden to the Dallas County taxpayer. To which end the committee hearing, I said, okay, were you lying to the taxpayers back then to promote the bond election and get people taxpayer to which in the committee hearing I said okay. Were you lying to the taxpayers back then to promote the bond election and get people to vote for it? Are you lying now that you're trying to get the surrounding counties to pay taxes into Parkland? You can't have it both ways. There was not an answer to that question. I bet. That's why you go to these meetings. You learn things. You pick up tips and ideas and you stay informed and sometimes it proves to be very useful. So I will tell you some of these committees. It was kind of hard when I first became judge. I was getting information about all kinds of boards and committees and and some you are on just because you're kind of judge. Some you're actually appointed to by this body. Some they just send information to the county just to be nice and keep us informed. And I was having a real hard time with all these committees and boards knowing which meeting do they really expect me to show up to? So that kind of got interesting when I first started. But I will tell you that not all of these meetings, not sorry, not all of these committees meet all the time or even every year. A lot of them are created just in case they're needed. Your salary grievance committee that's the one that's created statutorily. I serve on that because I'm county judge. I run the meetings but I do not have a vote. That's statutorily controlled. Let's see here. There was another point I was going to make. I can't think of it right now. But anyway, I have been on the North Texas Commission since I first started as judge. And I would like to offer that committee to Commissioner Coleman. That's not to say that anybody that other member can't attend you certainly can at any time. But I would like to offer that committee appointment to Commissioner Coleman and as of today. If there's for the discussion on this or any other committee let's hear about it and we'll take some official action today. Well if I may sorry I wanted to just confirm basically I think the assumption was is that I would assume all committee of assignments that were listed by my predecessor. And so I guess we can just take action to do that in the past. But also, I'll be honest, in the past five months, basically, none of the county committees that Miss White was assigned to have ever met. So basically, I guess these are the ones that meet annually or maybe just once every several years. Or just as they're needed. Right. And maybe you assume that Commissioner Coleman but I don't think I assumed coming on board as county judge that I would automatically take over the committees of my predecessor. Well, that's why I think it's a good idea to clarify. That's right. That's why it's on the agenda. What's Cynthia and I came aboard? We were not given any committees until probably two, two, three years into the game. Well, we were given some, but we certainly wasn't given the ones that we wanted. Understand. We had to wait. They told me. And they let us know that we were rookies. So we didn't get to get any of the committees that they wanted. The ones that I have or the ones that I got except two of them, that's the Council of Urban Counties, and when Commissioner Carter left, I got that committee on the North and East County Judge and Commissioners Association Committee, which I am the president of that one this year. I did interview for that position position and that position will not be in counties. We all be a member of it as a court, but I won't be the president, but as past president, I'll still be on committee, but that's the one that's that I have to interview to get that position. On the executive committee, I'm not on, which I've requested to go back on. You do have to interview for that committee, also, it recommends you, but you're not automatically on there. My vehicle assessment committee, I got that when I came home, so I'm sealed there. My drug free workplace committee and payroll deduction committee and public safety advisory committee has not met. The public safety advisory committee met about four years ago and had met since. I am on the Civil Service Commission and we meet as needed and last year we didn't have a meeting at all. I don't think we might have won to get into the year. But I think those are the only ones I have other than my actually precinct meetings, one 21 and precinct three task force meeting. Those are the only ones I have. Well, I just wanted to really, and thank you, Judge, for putting us on the agenda. I wanted to discuss two items, basically, which committees would I take over if any? And the other thing was, I expressed interest in joining Texas 21 or some of these other political actions in Wives' Body decided that we weren't going to consider joining Texas 21 in the middle of it. But I also listed out the different costs that we spent on other committees. And as a body, if we're spending that money on there, I'd like to be able to participate in those others other than just as a general member particularly if if right now I think we have listed seven of them there's really five of us you know you can really divide it up evenly I know that it's in your accounts for a lot but you know I don't see any of y'all going anywhere. So, you know how that goes. You can always attend the Council of Urban Counties Committee meeting with me. Or sometimes I can't go and I've tried to get somebody to go in my place and represent them, county. I appreciate that. I'd love to have that you know Like I said that not a nought in East Texas County a commissioners Association won that one we're not gonna have after this year other than me being past president on there Except for equipment was going to the conference. I'm gonna try to stay involved in that I think there's only two that I have that's outside. I have the list that's bleeding there, a gentle book also. This stormwater committee, I don't, I mean, there's no name listed here and I don't know if there's ever been an official assignment of somebody on the stormwater committee. Do we need to put, if it's anybody it ought to be both commissioners and commissioners Coleman, I'm thinking. I agree. Let's make that assignment. Okay. Then the centralized Red and bridge facility committee that was Commissioner White needs, obviously to me, that needs to be Commissioner Coleman and Commissioner Eans. Anybody? When you see like Ditton County Transportation Authority with nothing out, that's an appointee from us. Yeah. I mean, the citizen probably by late the doctor in incompatibility. I'm saying. As you can probably have a commissioner appointee. No, no, that's actually an appointment from this body to serve on the board of directors at DCTA. Oh, over here on page two. Okay. Okay. Then we have the master Planes During Committee. That was Commissioner Ead's Commissioner White. And once again, I think that needs to be changed to Commissioner Coleman. Just for clarification. question for Hugh brought below that as information services management committee would you have an interest in that? They have not met but I understand they are to be meeting this summer do you have a I'm on that but if you have a desire. I mean if you want to and you know I'm sure the folks at CPS do a good job but I mean, if you want to, and you know, I'm sure the folks at CPS do a good job, but I mean, that's not generally my particular interest, and I know Commissioner White had an assignment to that. I mean, if that's something you're interested in. With which one? Or Commissioner White was listed for the... I don't like them. I can't hear you. I saw in there that there was. Yeah, I saw it. CPS is. No, CPS focus group on the next page. It says Commissioner White. I don't even know what that is. I don't need. I've got a couple on here. I've got a couple on here we could delete too. Let's delete that CPS focus group. We delete Chinchapar road in that same section. Can we delete the Chinchapar road north and south? Yes. That's history. Master plans during committee. That's Commissioner Mitchell, you're on that, aren't you? We're on the, we're on the, it was Commissioner Ease and Commissioner White. We just changed it to Commissioner Coleman. We're on the Capitol Advisory. Oh, got it. Oh, got it. Okay. And I don't see that on the reset on there. A Capitol in prison. A Capitol in prison. A Capitol in prison. A Capitol in prison. A Capitol committee myself and the judge. What is the listed one? And this is a question. Just a minute here, Barbara's trying to keep up. A above Barbara says capital improvements program. Are you talking about the development support committee commission Mitchell? No, no. I sent the capital improvement advisory committee that we're on. You and I, it's not on here. Unless they're calling this. I didn't say it either. That's why that's the master plan's journey. If the development support committee's different. I'm not heard of that one. I'm going to say I'm on it and I've never met in all these years. I think we need to retitle that. Yeah. CIP. It's called the capital improvement committee and that even though it's not listed on here has been Commissioner Mitchell and myself. So take off the words development support committee and just leave it capital improvement committee and it be myself and Commissioner Mitchell as it has been in the past. But a question right below that the Environmental Assessment Committee, and this is Commissioner White, how is that different than the one that runs on up above? This is Environmental Advisory. What is the... Painting Dill or... I see the one environmental assessment committee of Commissioner Marching, but where is the second one? Under the second floor, the second floor. Under the second floor, the second floor. Under the one? Under the second section. Under the second section. Under the second section. The middle section. Environmental assessment committee. Mary. Right here. Judge, by May. Right down from the law, I was. Before you get too far along, the development support committee is the staff committee in the planning department. Yes, it is. That's separate than this though. That's a separate. It's a for flat. Mm-hmm. Do we know about the environmental assessment? How it's? Well they need to stay created just in case situations come up and you need this quick discussion on an item That's before the court Let me let I we did I Mean the didn't county Veterans Memorial Committee was a countywide committee is that that was set up should that be on here? Yes, I court action it was set up. It should be on here. We set that up because Andrew is on the board. Oh, it's a separate thing. It's a memorial. Is it the title to Barbara? I'll do that. I're going to join the club. I'll correct you. Anywhere. Yes. Yeah, clear. It's a Dink County Veterans Memorial Committee that we did through court action. We'll send you the information on that. In fact, I'm sure Sherry's doing it right now. Aren't you? Yep, see? A veterans land board, we do not have a person assigned to that. The very last one under statutory committees. Veterans land board? Maybe a citizens committee, though. It is. It is. We make appointments to that. You're correct. Okay. Let's take some moment to look some more on Commissioner Court appointed or approve representatives. It says external boards and committees with Commissioner Court representation. We removed the two Chinchapel road north and south. We removed the C Chin Chapel road north and south. We removed the CPS focus group. Didn't kind of tax abamment committee judge horn commission Eads commission await that committee has not meant. Want to just band it? Yeah, I wanted to just band all tax abamers too. Don't get me started. Look, why don't we just remove it from that committee? Let's just remove you from that committee. I love it. She didn't give up on that does she? I've got some information for you that I picked up on that. Good luck. Yeah. I'll listen. It's not going to change your mind. Okay, well, we need to remove Commissioner White's names from that from that committee. Commissioner Coleman, since it has not met, do you? I'm good to me. Okay, we'll put Commissioner Coleman on there in replacement of Commissioner White. I think the trash cleaners know she needs to be there big time. You You all need a lot of help. I don't have any history on this Landtannot task force. I don't know if that was when that was created. I'm sorry which ones that like right below that Landtannot task force that can be eliminated Probably one who's five minutes. We could delete the antenna task force. It can be eliminated I said, come in, lemonade it. Let's see, road task force. We could dissolve that. Well, let's dissolve it. Yeah. Let's say we're just living in that one too. Next page. MTTA Technical Committee, Little Ambridge 720. I've been attending that. You've been attending that? Okay, let's change that from Commissioner White to Commissioner Coleman. A little bit further down, obviously, precinct one task force. I think Old Alton Park can go away. It's the correct, the Commissioner Coleman. They'd highway 423 task force. I've been, I've been to. Commissioner the hall. I'll go to the hall. They'd highway 423 task force. I've been to the commons been attending that. So remove white's name and put Coleman there. There's two of them. There's the north part in the south part. Just put a spell there. That's the state highway 423 task force. That's Commissioner Coleman, Commissioner March. Can you go back up to the Old Alton Park five up and delete that? Yes. Delete it. Old Alton Park Commissioner Eads, delete that one. It's good to clean this up. But what is this Texas Integrated Computer Justice Board? Kevin, does that have anything to do with the... Oh, the task force I'm on, let me see. What that committee is. I mean, we're on the, I'm on the new justice system deal. Integrated justice system. Right. But that. Texas Integrated Computer Justice Board. I have no idea. I'm wondering if that's not one of the same and they just start calling it something different. I don't know. I think that's the case. How about that's the same? The one that's the CUC. Who are? Texas Integrated Computer Justice Board. Is that through the CUC? No. I don't think so. Okay, let's correct that. I think it would be a correction to just call it the Texas Integrated Justice System. There's another thing. And that was called? Am I saying that right? The one that I'm... The county representative to the Justice System, but that is through the CUC. I mean I'm getting eliminated. That's just computer system. I don't know anything about that. We don't pay for the committee appointment but we want to be be represented in the we certainly have been represented through the CUC And Commissioner Jacobs served on that to create the justice integrated system That's Commissioner Jacobs was serving on that is it still at the development point where we need to make sure we have Representation I mean obviously your Yeah, I know the CUC calls it the common integrated justice system committee and Commissioner Marshaunt was the or is I think the representative currently for the oversight board of that committee And that committee does still meet occasionally. And the title of it is criminal justice. We've got it here. Criminal justice computer system committee. Yeah, let's replace that with this Texas Integrated Computer Justice Board. And that's Commissioner Marchand. All right. Urban County Policy Committee. That's the CUC Intergovernmental Relations Committee. They're one and the same so we can That duplicative commissioner Mitchell. It's duplicated with what? Integrate in a government relations committee is the urban County Policy Committee, but it's the same as the Intergovernmental Relations Committee that I serve. So which title should we eliminate? I do the integral of a mental relations committee. I'd scratch that with. OK, so scratch urban county policy committee. And workforce development board, that's where we make appointments to that board, which reminds me people we've got a lot of vacancies. They are desperately need recommendations. How could you just we just supported someone on that? Yeah but we've got like nine vacancies. Or workforce board? Isn't it the workforce development board that's... Yeah there's... We made a couple of reappointments but we still got a lot of vacancies there. I didn't know we had that many. If you could go back to Texas Department of Health Commissioners Council on Public Health, I have no idea what that is. There have been contact. Put your on it. I know. I have no idea what that is. We don't have being burdened here today. He's on vacation but but I have no idea. I think that may be one that's set up in case it's needed. And so she went, we had the swine flu. And she stopped us, live flu raw? Yeah, actually, Commissioner. Oh, something, Commissioner. Bing Burton, Bing Burton contacted me concerning the swine flu. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. section here, Dent County Holiday Lightning Association, Commissioner White was on that. Obviously that meets about once a year. Yeah, I figured during the holidays. Right. And it's- So do you want that one or not? Yeah, I live in the city of Denton and I've been known to attend and do the Hockey Poke, so. Yeah. I'd turn yourself around. Okay, those are the only ones that I had suggestions on. Oh, the only thing I was going to bring up is somewhere on here, it lists Texas Urban Transportation Alliance. That was a group that the county judges from different parts of the state, not just Dallas, Tarant, Collin Denton, but the Houston area in Bear County. We were trying to get some, well there's a lot of things we disagreed on, but we were trying to take the areas of transportation that we did agree on and address them legislatively and that was about three or four sessions ago and We used to pay into that and we have that committee has Disbanded because I'm the only county judge that's still here out of the original committee So we haven't paid into it for a number of years So we haven't paid into it for a number of years. I tried to get it revitalized and get going again prior to this current legislative session and there just wasn't a whole lot of interest. So I think we can eliminate that from the list. That's the Texas Urban Transportation Alliance. You can take that off the list that's the Texas Urban Transportation Alliance. You can take that off the list. Unfortunately, we had limited success. And Commissioner Coleman in response to your your comment and then go about external committee committees. The court already, I'm on RTC and we have to establish a backup formally. And Commissioner Mitchell, she's alternate on there, but the other one is the TRTC, the tenant regional transportation council. And if you'd like to, if there's ever a reason I can't go, if you want me to contact you first, if you'd like to sit to fill in. Be the backup person. Be the backup, that's fine. That'd be great. Problem. Okay, any further discussion or clarification on this? Two hours. Questions. Okay. All right, let's take a vote to take official action and all the changes that we just made. Chair will move for approval. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Marche and further discussion. Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, any motion to carry? Barbara send that out so I guess we'll get a call. We can make sure what we did was right. Yeah, we'll make the corrections and kind of parks going to need some help in getting all these identified also for the court order. We voted, didn't we? Yes, we did. Okay. Just trying to make sure. We voted didn't we? Yes we did. Okay. Just trying to make sure. Okay. On to item 13c which is approval of the Den County Emergency Service District number one request for our audit extension up to 30 days. Press approval for this item. Motion by Commissioner Ian. Seconded by Commissioner Marchand other questions. Your none on favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Aye. Opposed, sen. Motion is carried. 14A is approval of the service agreement. Renewal notice with a priest incorporated through the State of Texas Office of the Attorney General for the Ditton County Vine Service. Chair, I'm move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner, excuse me, Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, say aye. Motion to carry. 14B is approval of customer service agreement between Denton County and the intro. Info, defense for risk and vulnerability assessment services is recommended by the Director of Information Services. And then, Kim, do you need to do any clarification on this? Are we okay? We're okay now? Pull your microphone down please. So sorry, breaking the own rules. The only clarification was the one that I sent you. Right. In there, it stated that funds were requested in the FY 2010 budget, but this is a one time expense from 2009 and the correct. There will be no impact to the 2010 budget. Just to clarify, the rest of it can go just as it is. I just wanted to clarify that. The amount's approved and the order is correct so there's nothing else that needs to be done. That's correct. Okay. Thank you. Are there questions from members of the corridor to have a motion for approval? I'll move. Motion by Commissioner Marchion. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion is carried. 14C is approval of the application and letter of agreement from Southwestern Bell Telephone doing business as AT&T Texas for utility relocation work on the LITSE Road Road Funds Auditor Number 7673619010. Obviously this isn't Commissioner precinct for. It's for approval. Motion by Commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Questions? On favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Post and in. Motion does carry. 14D is approval of the letter of agreement from Southwestern Gas Pipeline Incorporated. For utility relocation on the LITSEE Road Project in the amount of $27,507. The funds to be transferred from Denton County Commissioner precinct 4, triple 4 Hilltop Road Funds Auditor Number 7674559020 to Denton County Commissioner precinct 4. Triple 4 LITSEE Road Funds Auditor Number 7673619010. Approval. Motion by Commissioner Eans. Seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Sainine? Motion does carry. 14e is approval of the software license and professional services agreement. And amendment to the maintenance agreement between Denton County and Tyler Technologies, Texas Conference of Urban Counties for the Odyssey Attorney Secure Access Documents is recommended by the Director of Information Services. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell, second by Commissioner Marchant, questions? Here none on favor, please say aye. Aye, opposed to the name. Motion is carried. I want to remind everyone that we're going to have a short court meeting on Friday, May 29th. This is simply going to be the consent agenda and pay bills and for approval of the order makers and that commissioners court for Tuesday, June 2nd has been canceled. And I believe we've taken care of everything on the agenda. Yes, ma'am? All right. We're adjourned. Have a great day. Thank you.