Thank you. The gentleman, the County Commissioner's Court for Tuesday, August 4, 2009 is now in session. This morning, the invocation will be given by Mr. Jim Heath. And our pledges will be led by Judy Gonzalez, who's with our emergency services. Please stand. I agree, please. I have nothing, Father. We thank you for this day, for this county, for this state, and our country. Father, we ask you to be with us as we go through some trying times in our economy. Father, we ask you all to look after all of our service people throughout the world as they stand in harm's way, may they come home safe and sound. You know how they we pray, amen. Join me in the pledge to the American flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. I don't think I can just flag. I pledge allegiance to the cases one day under God, one, and indivisible. Thank you, gentlemen. Item one is for public input for items not listed in the agenda. There's any member of the public that would like to address commission's court. We ask that you please complete a public comment form available from the aid to the court on the side table over here. And we'd be glad to hear from you. Would like to also remind everyone to please turn off your cell phones and page. Members, item 1 is a consent agenda. Are there any items that you need to pull for discussion or do we have a motion for approval? Motion to approve. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Marchin Seconded by Commissioner Eads hearing no discussion all in favor. Please say aye aye Opposed seen in motion does carry Consent agenda today consists of twoA, which is the order making appointments. We have two new hires in the County Clerk's Office, a lateral transfer in the County Clerk Office, new hire for criminal district attorney, new hire in the County jail, and two new hires in the Sheriff's Department and communications. 2B is approval of the Inter-Tropartmental Transfers, 2C is approval of payroll, 2D is approval of the Interarch Departmental Transparency to see the approval of payroll. 2D is approval of award of bid for lubricants and oils. This is bid number 0509-1977 to dial lubricants incorporated. 2E is approval of renewal for HVAC full-service maintenance agreement. Bid number 0605-1705 toDMI Corporation, Decker Mechanical. 2F is approval of a bid for Robinson Ranch Reconstruction Project. This is bid number 060-91982 to Glen Thurmond Incorporated for $3,232,126. Two G is approval of renewal for RFP 03081894. This is property terrorism insurance and with Scarborough, Medlin and Associates. Two H is approval of specifications and for RFQ 07091990 for architectural services for Louisville Government Center projects, appointment of the evaluation committee, and any appropriate action. Okay, and two, I is approval budget amendment request 101640 for various line items for elections administration in the amount of $9,000 to Jay's approval budget amendment request 101650 for flex space in various other operating line items for road and bridge precinct for in the amount of 128,822 dollars. 2K is approval of Budget Amendment request 101 660 for postage for adjury and grand jury in the amount of $3,200 to L is approval of Budget Amendment request 101 680 for various line items for fire code enforcement in the amount of $1356.2 to M is approval of building use request from Denton Main Street Association for use of the courthouse on the square and lawn for Elvis on the square on Saturday, August 15th, 2009 from 6 to 930. I'm sure Commissioner Marchant will be there for that. I hope. You're going to be entertaining. No. Two and as approval of building news requests from Friendship Church for a concert on the Square on Friday, October 2nd, 2009 from 7pm to 10pm. Five days approval of the bill report payments from CSCD, Community Corrections T.A.I.P. shares, training shares, forfe Forfeiture, V.I.D. Interest, D.A. Checkfe and D.A. Forfeiture funds are presented for recording purposes only. Good morning. Good morning, Judge and Commissioners. I have four deletions today. As you can see, I hand wrote some because we're old school now. We don't have computers yet set up in the Aud auditor's office. They're all out of general fund. The first is to David Wright for 233750. That's the wrong vendor. Trisha Perry for $2,015 wrong vendor. Expresso language services for $75 for a duplicate payment. And Carlton Hughes, attorney at law, $600 for the wrong amount. Those are all the changes we have. Thank you. Do we have questions or members of court? Do we have a motion for approval of the bill report? As corrected. We have a motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Margin. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion goes carry. Six A is approval of the evaluation committees recommendation to rank CHA Incorporated DLR Group as the most qualified firm for architectural services for the juvenile probation detention facilities. We'll call on Beth Lennon. Good morning, judging commissioners. As you know, the AAA bond program included several projects for the juvenile detention probation offices. We've developed this in a three-face plan, the first one to include a master plan, the second design of a multipurpose building which will assist many functions, but especially the JJAEP program, and the third is the expansion of actual juvenile detention. 12 firms responded to our RFQ and the evaluation committee met, developed a short list and interviewed the short list firm. CHADLR Group is an established firm who presented the best overall experience and qualifications relative to our project. One of the questions we ask them in the interview is please present opportunities and challenges specific to our project. They were very detailed and gave us a lot of insight into our own project that we weren't even aware of and they did the best job of that. So we are recommending them as the most qualified firm. The evaluation committee included Claire Yant, Yancey with Assistant District Attorney in the Civil DA Peggy Fox who's the Director of Juvenile Probation, Matt Merrick, who is Deputy Director of Juvenile Probation, and Danny Bromley, Director of Facilities and myself. As always, this is a very long tedious process, and I want to commend the valuation committee for the hard work that they did. We're anxious to get started on this project. So we're asking for your approval. I did want to recognize CHA who is here today, Brad Isbell, Ben Harris, and Jeff Munstroman is here and they're anxious to get started on this project as well and if you have any questions, we'll be glad to answer them. Thank you. Members, do you have any questions? Thank you. Thank you. We have a motion for approval by Bob E? Thank you. Thank you. We have a motion for approval by Bobby Mitchell. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Hearing no questions, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, sitting. Motion does carry unanimously. Congratulations, gentlemen. We're ready for you to get to work. 6B is approval of exemption from bidding for the sole source purchase of EuroTech USA Incorporated's deep injection process for soil stabilization and desensification of the South Freeman Bridge repair in compliance with Section 262.024A7A of the local government code. This purchase is for South Freeman Road Bridge who has experienced some problems and Bennett Hall, our Director of Public Works Engineering, is recommending this process that will take care of the problem. It is a so-source vendor. We have verified that and we could find no comparable products in the market so we are recommending so source exemption so we can move forward. Thank you do you have questions from members of the comments? You're not only favorite whoops I guess we better get a motion. Motion for approval by Commissioner Marchgin. Chair will second the motion. Hearing no comments on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Signee? Motion is carried. 70 is approval. Budget amendment request 101-670 for weapons, including the transfer of $30,000 from Sheriff's Forfeiture Fund, the unappropriated contingency for Sheriff's Fund, for a total amendment of $35,700. This is for recording purposes only. Motion by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, comments. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion is carried. Seven B is approval of budget amendment request one of one six nine zero to increase revenues Now, we get expenditures for office supplies for courthouse on the square museum in the amount of $700 Chiro move for approval Second by commissioner Mitchell other questions You're none on favor please say aye Opposed to need motionless carry will come back to 17 a post in E motion is carried we'll come back to 17. 8A discuss the status of the loss of the Joseph A. Carroll building. Who wants to start this one? Good morning, Judge and Commissioners. As you know, we had experienced a pretty big flood at the Joseph A. Carroll building on May 31st. And offices had to be in the flood at the just fake carol building on May 31st and offices had to be relocated. I provided in your packet a list of the expenses to date in the form of the POs that have been cut as well as a list of claims that have been submitted to the insurance carrier. You can see that most of the expenses are covered by the insurance carrier. And we've detailed for you in a summary. Those expenses that or potential expenses that we think will not be covered by the insurance. One, I think you were aware of previously for a little bit higher quality of carpet than what we had in the building before, and that expenses less than $5,000. Business continuity, I did not break that out for you, but that involves the move. And also some departments had to purchase some additional supplies that they probably would not have otherwise purchased, like rolling file cabinets. And just different things that they purchased for their own offices, business continuity file baskets and that kind of thing. We don't have business continuity insurance. You can see that in this circumstance that was just over $6,000. It was, it's not a huge expense. It may be that we'll want to consider business continuity insurance in the future. And that's kind of a topic I think that we could bring you some numbers on the level of that we would want at different levels we could consider and what each of those levels would cost. Where it says electric invoice, we don't know if that's a real expense or not, we cut a PO for an amount and the invoice came in lower and we don't know if there will be additional invoices or not. Fiber optic cable to the cell be house. The insurance company did pay to replace the damaged fiber optic cable in our building, but the fiber optic cable that goes from our building to the cell be house was a different location. And so they did not cover that. That was just under $1,000 or $900. And again, there's an invoice amount there. That's the difference between the bill we received and the purchase order that was cut. We don't know if there'll be additional expenses there. And that's what I included in my summary. In the memo, you may have noticed that it said that we aren't sure of all of our expenses yet because departments are still moving back in this week. There is a laptop that's missing. That's about $2,000. And about $200 in supplies that we have learned about in the last 24 hours that were not included on this information. So we expect that there will be some amount still coming in that we're not aware of. We're not expecting any really large amounts. You can see that Gustav has been very busy filing on these insurance claims and working with the insurance company and adjuster and also working with other county departments such as IS, purchasing facilities, probably possibly budget and audit. I'm not really sure who all, but I know those departments have all had a big role in all of this and that he's been filing these insurance claims diligently and promptly and will continue to do what needs to be done to get as much covered as possible. And I'd be happy to take whatever questions you have and could solve this here if you have questions that I can't answer. You have questions from the members of the court. Commissioner Marchin. Yeah. In this business contingency, I'm sorry, let me get continuity. Yeah. Let me ask first of all, and it may go to that business continuity issue. What about the labor that the departments like facilities, IT, what about their labor cost of the employees themselves that they had wrecked from other things within the county to work on getting everybody out, getting things done within the facility itself that was a direct result of the flood as well as putting all the computers back. Is that covered by any insurance at all? Those are not covered by our insurance. No, we don't have that in our policy. That part of a business continuity. Because I mean, how many hours would you say that those departments, as well as purchasing human resources? I mean, how many hours do you think was spent by those employees because of this? A lot of hours, probably hundreds of hours, but that isn't something that we've tracked in the circumstance. And then I have another question. After we had some discussion earlier on this about not, and I hope it was not misconstrued what the discussion was truly about, but about the response to the incident and how it was set up and if there was any protocols set up on these types of events and did we follow that, is there any talk at all, or is this the conversation that needs to be had of a follow-up for those department heads that interacted and took part in this entire incident to step back, review what happened, talk about what didn't happen correctly, talk about what happened correctly, and then out of that come up with not necessary report of what happened, but what can be done better in the future? I think there was some discussion of that as a follow-up to a discussion of the need to do that. Not a discussion that was part of that, but a discussion as a need to do that after a follow-up to the last court session in which we discussed this. I'm not aware that one has been scheduled, but departments are still moving back into the building. I believe the sixth floor, the fifth floor, the fourth floor, third floor are occupied. I believe the JP has been moved in today. I'm not sure, honestly, my south-foot if everybody's back in the building. Well, I mean, members, I think there needs to be some type of mechanism either from put together by this corridor, by I don't know the point portion that would be to do a total review of how this entire thing was handled by all departments and to look for opportunities. Not necessarily appointing a fingers, but looking at opportunities that we can do things better in the future if they weren't done to the satisfaction of getting us into this facility quicker, those types of things. So I don't know what, if we set that up as an ad hoc or Chared by someone who do we put that under to do something like that? Commissioner, I would be glad to call a meeting of all the effective parties But right now people are still moving and getting settled and stuff but after after things settled down a little bit still move and get settled and stuff but after after things settled down a little bit, I'd be glad to pull some people together and we'll have that discussion. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your mind me. Are there any other questions or comments from Mr. Mitchell? No, yes, I'm in my course. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, let's go to 8v, which is approval of Denkani Equal Employment Opportunity Plan 2009. Again, we'll call on Amy Phillips. Thank you, Judge and commissioners. Before you see the draft of the Equal Employment Opportunity Plan that we, this is the one that we have drafted to submit this year. We submit these every two years. They are required, we're required to submit them because we do receive grant funding. And so this is what we have drafted to go to the state and I'm welcome any comments you might have or suggestions. This isn't a whole lot different than what we've submitted before. Is it? No. We're doing pretty much the same thing. Yes. We've submitted every two years. Any questions from members of court? Okay. We need to formally approve this. Do we have a motion? Thank you. We have a motion from Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman, hearing no discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion does Oh, yeah, forgot to go to our public hearing. Well, we're not too late. Tinney is the public hearing and consideration discussion and or approval of September 8, 2009, 9.05 AM as the date and time to conduct a public hearing to consider and approve the reply of a lot of 4R and 5R block a of timberlake trails a subdivision. This is in precinct one Wait a minute I'm just not public hearings is setting the public hearing yeah all three of them are to set the public hearing exactly setting the public hearing. All three of them are to set the public hearing. Exactly. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Coleman. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Are there questions? Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to any? Motion does carry. 10B is a consideration discussion and or approval of September 8, 2009, 9.90 AM, as the date and time to conduct a public care and to consider and approve the reply out of lots 1R, 2R, 3R, and 12R, block B of timber lake trails subdivision precinct 1. We have motion for approval by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Eads, all in favor please say aye. Aye, opposed to the name? Motion does carry. 10C is consideration discussion end or approval of September 8, 2009 at 9.15 AM is the date and time to conduct a public hearing to consider and approve the repart of Lotte's 12 R through 16 R. Lotte's block two of Savannah phase one precinct one. Motion for approval by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Post-synane. Motion does carry. That was easy when it been. 13A is approval of contingency allowance authorization inclusive of change order number 10 in the amount of $8,343. Change order number 12, a credit of $10,963. Change order number 13, a credit of $2,729. Change order number 14, a credit of $29,952. Change order number 15 in the amount of $700. And change order number 16 in the amount of $2,607 for the Denton County Administrative Complex Phase 1. 20 Danny. All right, so everybody doing today? Pretty good, how are you? Okay, number 10 is what we had to do is put a hand hole on the other side of Mayfield, Mayfield. And that's for the telecommunication. This is the one that I pulled from court several weeks ago, and they come back with a cost on that of 83-402. Do we want to go through these individually. Let's talk about them and we'll see what the court wants to do if these questions. Enjoy your number 12. 9.63 and what this is, it's a cost savings to the county. We're going from the switchboard to a regular breaker box. It doesn't affect anything. It's just a cost savings change order number 13. It's a credit of 27, 28, 29. This is because on some of the other previous change orders, they had put bonds and insurance and inspection fees on, which didn't need to be put on, so they're giving us that back. Change order number 14 is 29, 952. This is whenever we thought was going to have to line stabilize the parking lots for the fire lanes and the compaction test came back that we didn't have to. So this is a savings back to the county. Change order number 15 is to address materials. This is for two 45 beams in the six inch far line and then also a two inch shut off valve for the sprinkler system in amount of $700. Changed order number 18 is 16. I'm sorry 16 is for 641 square feet and these are offices that was going to have the heavy filing systems so we're going from five-inch concrete to teams but we'll hold that up. That's the $2,607. Yes ma'am. Are there any questions on these change orders for Danny? Do they have a motion for approval? A move. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. The charge will second or their questions or discussion. Hearing none, no in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, any motion does carry. Thank you. Seven. I oppose any motion does carry. Thank you. I'm sorry. 13V is approval of the appointment of three temporary directors to the Narc Texas groundwater conservation district board of directors just for a little explanation and clarification. the county judge office contacted the municipality that uses the most ground water that is the city of the county. They're about 85% dependent on groundwater, well water, and also contacted the water suppliers in Denton County. Got a list from our Denton County Environmental Office and compared that with the list suppliers in Denton County. Got a list from our Denton County Environmental Office and compared that with a list that we got from TCQ to make sure we didn't miss somebody. And as per the legislation, we requested from them their nominees to the sported directors and requesting up to three nominees in priority order. That's all part of the agenda packet. You'll see their nominees. So therefore in we will end up with Denton County, Collin County in Cook County, each appointing three people to the Board of Directors. Each county is going to have a representative of the water suppliers. Each county is going to have a representative of the city that uses the most groundwater in that county and then the third person is one at large person that commissioners court elects to nominate or appoint I should say. We only get to point one. We're going to point all three of them, but on the recommendation of the municipality and the recommendation of the water suppliers. And then upon completion of that, the next item I believe is to set the date time and place for the public hearing. And we will hold the public hearing upon completion of the public hearing. This body will vote to essentially ratify the action of legislature in creating the ground water district. At that point, your temporary board of directors becomes a permanent board of directors. Just so you hopefully understand a little bit what's going on here. So with that, members, you have in your agenda book, the list from the water suppliers giving three nominees. And from what I know about them, actually any of the three would do a fine job, but they were asked to give this recommendation to us in their priority order. And that would be Mr. Chris Boyd, who's general manager of Mustang. Now I will also tell you the legislation does require that these people be a Denton County voter, and that has been verified. Dintm County voter and that has been verified. The city of the colony recommended Todd Marina. He is director of utilities for the city of colony. And again, that's been verified. These registered voter in the county. We have a couple of recommendations or suggestions, I should say, for the county at large position. I will tell you that Commissioner Eads and I both heard from Mr. Thomas L. Smith from a long time ago. Yes, probably years ago expressing interest. At some point in time, he was in hopes that the county would legislatively create the groundwater conservation district rather than it being forced on us by TCQ and expressed great interest in serving on this board of directors at that time. Since that time more recently we received a letter and I'm sorry Bobby, what's her name? Virginia Moore, right. And she's certainly qualified too. But I would like to hear from members of the court if you have any other recommendations. I haven't heard from anybody or received any background information on anybody else that you would want to consider for this position I will just tell you that Both of these people would probably do a fine job But I'm inclined to recommend Thomas L. Smith as our county at large nominee, but I'd like to hear from other members of court Commissioner Eans. I agree with you, Judge. I know Virginia Moore and she's a great person and qualified. I do know that Tom Smith has been in touch with my office in the Basins for two and a half years since I took office about this groundwater conservation importance of that. And a real resource to believe the judge and I both as we've kind of gone through this process legislative, especially the judge with her in Austin. Virginia more is a great person But with Tom's previous involvement and help through along the way that if it came out of the two of them I would I would have to pick Tom but appreciate Virginia's interest Mr. Mitchell I don't know Tom I do know Virginia and I'm totally interested in her being for the I'm sorry I can hear you I'm totally interested in her being one of the I'm sorry I couldn't hear you. I'm totally interested in her being one of the nominees for this position. I hope Virginia more very well. She's extremely competent. She's very well versed in this. She called me, asked me if I would consider. I've never, the other fellow never bothered to call me. All I got was information from you guys regarding him. So I think Virginia would do a great job. That'd be my recommendation. I never bothered to call me. All I got was information from you guys regarding him. So I think Virginia would do a great job. That'd be my recommendation. I was with Thomas Smith all along. So that'd be my pick. All right. Well, I'm going to see if we can do this all in one motion. The chair is going to nominate Chris Boyd, who is the general manager of Mustang Utility District. Todd Marina, who is Director of Utilities for the City of the County, and Mr. Thomas L. Smith as the counties at large nominee for the position of temporary board of directors of the North Texas groundwater conservation district. So second to the motion. I would prefer can you separate out the our general? Right. But the two in there. I will revise my motion then and nominate Ted Marina as the director who is the director of Utilities of the City of the Colony to represent the municipal interest on the groundwater conservation district and Mr. Chris Boyd, who's with Mustang Utility District, to represent the water suppliers interest on the temporary board of directors. Hopefully soon to be the permanent board of directors. And at this point, that's my motion. Second. I got a second by Commissioner Marchand, is there any discussion? Hearing none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed say aye aye a point opposed say nay I would move to a Point Virginia more to the general county to the to be the counties general representative to the water control district They have a motion by Commissioner Coleman seconded by Commissioner Mitchell Is there for the discussion? Is there further discussion? Hearing none all in favor the motion please say aye Ocnee Neem Motion fails with that the chair will again make a motion to nominate Thomas L. Smith as the counties at large appointee to the board of directors of the North Texas groundwater District Seconded by Commissioner Eads, any further discussion? Here in Nano, I'm sorry. We see where this is going. I'll go ahead and vote the Thomas Fant, but my preference is still Virginia Moell. I understand. Any further discussion? Here in Nano, in favor of the motion, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Did you vote, sir? Yes, I voted aye. Thank you. Sentiments for similar to commission. Thank you. Motion does carry unanimously. Todd Marina on the... I beg your pardon. Todd Marina. I have a point at the wrong person. Get out of fun book. OK. 13C is approval of a notice of public hearing that didn't kind of commissioners court will hold a public hearing at 9 a.m. on Tuesday or the 11th for the purpose of passing the resolution confirming Denton County's inclusion in the Denton in the North Texas groundwater Conservation District. The public hearing will be held in the commissioners courtroom 110 West to create Denton, Texas 76201, court us on the square. Legislatively we are required to hold this public hearing And then like I said upon completion of the public hearing the court will vote to ratify the action of legislature creating the district The motion by Commissioner Marchant seconded by Commissioner Mitchell Are there any questions or discussion You're none on favor. Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Motion does carry. Thank you. Okay, 14A is approval of the Interlocal Cooperation Agreements for Property Tax Collection between Dint and County, Texas and the several of them. City of Aubrey, Town of Bartonville, Town of Corral City, City of Corinth, Town of Dish, Town of Dubbelo, City of Justin, City of Lake Dallas, Town of Lakewood Village, City of Losville, City of Oak Point, City of Ronoke, and Town of Shitty Shores. So this is as recommended by the Dink County Tax Assessor Collector, the Chair will move for approval. Back in the back, Commissioner Mitchell, are there questions? Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Sen five district numbers, 4, 8, 6, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 8, and 11, 8. Chair, I move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Eads, questions? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the Dean? Motion to the hearing. Just a little tidbit of information until there is a approved contract in place. It is technically illegal for the tax assessor collector to collect their funds and deposit it that would be as of October 1. A little pressure there to get their contracts in. Sometimes that's been a deadline hard to meet. Not on our part trying to get the cities to return the contracts. 14B is approval of the interlocal cooperation agreements for property tax collection between Denton County, Texas and one, our GAL ISD, Aubrey ISD, Lake Dallas ISD, Little LL ISD, and Sanger ISD is recommended by the Dentn County Taxicester Collector, the Chair will move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Marchant. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, aye. Motion is carried. 14D is acceptance of donation of 3,900 tons of type A grade one flex base from LH Lacey Company for Dintn Road Purposes. Commissioner, would you like to explain a little bit what's going on here? Project, it's a temporary road is being constructed in the city of Denton and the contractor had contacted precinct four, precinct four, and asked if we would be interested in accepting it since the gravels will be out there for about a month, it's still being good shape. I'm not going to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to his request if he'll come pick it up half. Thank you so much. I can use it. Thank you, Andy. I'm Beth. We're again. Do we have a motion for approval? I'll move for approval with the revision of the split between the East and West. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Eads. Second. Second by Commissioner Coleman.. I'll second. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Hearing no further discussion. No one favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. And in motion carries 14 E is approval of the interlocal cooperation agreement between Denton County, Texas and the town of Bartonville for the given road, Porter Road, Glenview Lane and Wolf Run Road Improvement Project located entirely within the town of Bartonville, Texas and Denton County Commissioner Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of Board of this is audited in number 6173669060. I'd move for approval. Second. Motion by Commissioner Ead, second by Commissioner Coleman, are the questions? You're none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye, opposed, senine. Motion does carry. 14F is approval of a consultant, engineering professional services agreement between PMK and Ditton County, Texas to provide an acoustical analysis of the six district court rooms layout and arrangement of sound systems is recommended by the director of public facilities. Here? He was. Where'd Danny go? Is there a problem? I just want to know what this is about. Yeah. Sounds interesting. Did you have the done that for your JP Court? No. You don't have to do it. Do you know what that is? This was a plan project for the district courts with a consulting fees in this year's budget. They finally decided that they needed to bring in a professional to come in and assess the acoustics in those rooms and in the court rooms. In next year's budget that we reviewed last week, there is 150,000 in their four actual repairs and improvements to those court rooms. So this is the consulting fees that will get us what we need to do that for next budget year. Like the audio, visual stuff. It's for acoustic sounds, just the microphones and the sound systems in there. There are having a lot of problems in those district courtrooms. Just for information in the background material and the agenda books, this dent currently has six judicial district courts located in the dent kind of courts building. Speech intelligibility problems had developed with a acoustical environment and sound systems in each of these courtrooms. The project consists of the examination of each of the six district courts space layout and arrangement, the acoustical environment and existing sound reinforcement equipment. PMK is to obtain anecdotal evidence of sound problems from users in each courtroom, particularly judge, core reporter and Bayliffe PMK is to identify sound system related issues present in each courtroom that require correction by replacing, modifying, and or adding equipment. These services are to include the development of a remedial plan and the steps required to correct the problems identified. They require equipment and wiring changes necessary in the estimated cost to correct the existing problems in each of the six courtrooms. The and evaluation committee was selected to review proposals received from qualified firms. The N-Evaluation Committee was selected to review proposals received from qualified firms, the proposals received for the sound System consultant were received and evaluated PMK consultants was found to and approved as the most qualified firm for this project We need to keep this in mind and any future construction court rooms Are there any other questions do we still need Danny? I'm moved for approval. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Coleman. Seconded by Commissioner Marchand other further questions or comments. Hearing none all in favor. Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to need? Motion does carry. Item 15A is Executive Session consultation of the attorney in the closed meeting when the governmental body seeks the advice of attorney about contemplated litigation of class action lawsuits where in Denton County is a third party here specifically but not limited to such lawsuits involving potential recovery of health and dental insurance funds to approve Denton County's participation in such class action lawsuits and to obtain authorization for Denton County judge to sign all claim forms for Denton County to participate in such class action lawsuits and to obtain authorization. We didn't kind of judge to sign all claim forms for didn't kind of to participate in such class action lawsuits. With that, we are an executive session. Court is reconvened from executive session. And item 15A, the make motion to approve of for didn for Dent County to participate as a third party payer in class action lawsuits specifically, but not limited to such lawsuits involving potential recovery of health and dental insurance funds and authorization for the Dent County Judge to sign all claim forms for the participation of Dent County in such class action lawsuits. I made the motion. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. I'll in favor of the police say aye. Opposed? No. Motion does carry unanimously. Okay. We're going to take about a 10 minute break and then come back for a budget workshop. So we are in recess. I'm sorry. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. 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I'm going to go to the We are on item 7C which is approval of any appropriate action related to 2009, 2010, didn't kind of budget and will call on Donna Stewart. Good morning, Judge and commissioners. The first item we have on the agenda, it's actually under our item called other discussion. I know last week the court had some questions and voiced some concerns about the organization called SPAN. I know that you all received some information from them by email last week, but Jennifer Ressournsen is available today for any questions that the court members might have about her report and the changes that have been made at SPAN. I did see the rather lengthy report that was emailed out, but I did not copy it for courts. Meeting today, I do have a, I think, a copy here in my folder if you need me to run copies. Members, we all received the email from Dr. Burton concerning span. Did that answer your questions? We have Jennifer here. Is this with span if there's any further questions? I mean, Mr. Martin. I remember our last conversation that we had. Hope you remember our last conversation and it's some of the concern. And let me just recap what I thought happened. I think that span about a year ago said that you're going to discontinue some services to the most rural parts of the county. And I think there was a big uproar about it. And at that time, I believe our allocation to you was $75,000. Was that what it was? 16 to 75 I believe is what it was. There was a $15,000 increase. And I think we made that, didn't we, based upon your response to our concerns about veteran services and the transportation of those veterans. Not only the rule, but we also at the same time had a concern about whether spam was taking care of business if you would for a veterans. Yes, sir. In fact, I think out of that whole discussion came a discussion about us doing our own transportation at that. Yeah. Out of that. So, I don't have the letter in front of me. I apologize. It's way down on my email list. So how are you addressing those concerns that we had last year? Regarding the veterans. Yes. As well as the rule. Sure. Well, first let me address the veterans and we did look at how we were serving the veterans in ways that we could improve our service number one because there was issues regarding getting them to their appointments on time. We are fully aware of how long they have to wait for appointments and how precarious that appointment scheduling can be for the veterans. We've made a tremendous effort to make sure that they get there by a certain time. I believe it's 9 a.m. in the morning. And today we have not received any significant complaints from the veterans regarding being late for those appointments. And I believe that it's kind of in silence on Yoll's end as well from hearing from those individuals. So we believe that that has improved because we haven't heard any feedback to the contrary. We also are looking at and are actually in the process of initiating a midday run because one of our main concerns was how long they had to wait. It was a long process. Early morning pickup, late drop off, my father is even a veteran that utilizes this service and he's exhausted by the time he gets home. And so we see firsthand through my dad what happens and how their day goes and so initiating that midday run is going to help shorten that day and it also is going to help with the expense because a lot of them have to pack their lunch or eat down there. So we are sensitive to those issues and are looking at helping shorten that day which is going to improve their customer service as well. We also have an exclusive veterans run, so we make every effort, unless just efficiency is going to be really affected to make sure that only veterans are being transported down instead of having additional riders that just streamlines the process and again shorten that day even just by a little bit. Now as far as the rural passengers, we using a lot of the funds that you provided were able to bring back in those very far-flowing individuals that there was a concern I believe to mostly your precinct. I think it was just remitial. Mr. Mitchell, were you worried about the flyer mound, the colonies? That correct? And the colony, and my most the colony Flyer mound is still an issue remains an issue a Lot of the problem is that they reside inside the Denton Louisville urbanized area for which we don't receive a tremendous amount of funding The only funding that we do received is the 5310 that spread out for the whole county designed to match with other funds, namely what we call 5307 funding and 53411 funding. They're designed to match together and when that other portion isn't there, it makes it extremely difficult. Thank you. Can a farmer man and the city of Louisville be a farmer? No, ma'am. They used to. We did have a contract with flower mounds, which was discontinued last year. It affected a little over 300 riders that were listed as potential riders. Probably less than a third of that actually utilized the service on a regular basis, but it provided for about 5,000 trips. That was discontinued when we discontinued the contract with flower amounts. Flower amount is in the process of evaluating a bunch of different options that they can explore. I think right now they're leaning towards a voucher system. And Luzville is, Luzville is using NTTTA. DCTA? DCTA. Access and we're actually in the process of bidding for that access service for DCTA and I believe, Holland Village as well. But I mean, my concern was that even though you may not receive money from Plowman, you still receive DIN County funds. Yes. Plowman residents do pay taxes into DIN County. Yes. So I think we need to take into consideration. Yes. They'll still receive in some services. Well, we're all using what we're trying to do, especially for FlareMound, one huge group that was largely affected. We're in CTC students who were going to a program called Life Skills that's offered at the house in CTC. I don't know if it's actually a part of NCTC. But those students travel either two times a week or four times a week to Life Skills program that helps them develop skills that they can then become an active participant in community. And these are special needs. Especially individuals. Young individuals that most people refer to as their children. But we actually developed a contract where the parents are able to contribute more than the traditional fare. Okay. And we're using some of those funds to match to actually fund that service. It's just really difficult to allocate a bus when it's not fully funded to go to that area. And that contract enabled us to do so. So we are serving those individuals who really, to our way of thinking needed and had the most need for that service. There are other options for some people, but the residents in Copper Canyon and those few in Flower Mounds, those parents have to work. They can't be going from 9 to noon and pick up and drop off their kids. And this is an elderly gentleman that had some concern. In Flower Mounds? Flower Mounds, yeah. Again, I'm not sure how that voucher system might help that individual and we are still completely open to working with flower mound to work out something It still is going to require some Kind of bits and pieces both from County Commissioner's Court We do appreciate that and it goes a long way towards helping get these little pieces working But without the town and city support. It's it's gonna be really difficult to go back into those areas What I'm sorry. What about with the opening of the new bridge across the lake with direct access to the little lamb? I don't see the little lamb, nor do I see the colony anywhere in here. Do you get any requests from either one of those? We're serving them currently. Those are not part of the debt and Louisville urbanized area and so they fall completely within our responsibility. So we use our 5310 money and our 5311 money, which is the rural monies and that's what funds that service and my idea without going through this document, how many idea of what kind of trips you're talking about within the colony You know, I could email that information to you later. We just actually sent communication to the colony They provide you any time they do we're asking right now for a proportionate share From all the cities and towns Great breaking down the number of trips those individuals take in each of the communities and the residents that we serve and it's usually about 2% 1% breaking down between all the cities. I have seen the vehicles in Carrollton. Yes sir. So are they funding any portion of your budget? We received 503.7 for the urbanized, the Dallas-Fourworth Urbanized Area that encroaches into Denton County. And that's why you see vehicles in Carrollton. That's actually considered. City of Carrollton, they fund you any money at all? Excuse me? City of Carrollton, fund you. Do you have any contract with them? No, we don't have a contract with them. It's actually cog money that helps put us in that area. But we are actually. That's not because of Dart. Dart has a pretty big presence in the city of Carrollton. They do. They also have a, is it a hub? I'm not sure what they call it. A transfer station there. And we do feed to that transfer station. But it's because of the $53.07 money that puts our bus there. Most of that $3.307 money goes to Dart, but the little part that encroaches into Denton County is there, the money that we receive. So, there are any other questions from members of court? Believe not, thank you for being here today. We appreciate it. Okay, Donna, on the span from the net, was part of our social service committee recommendation. Was it not? That's correct. That's been approved. It was approved last week, but I knew that you had some follow-up questions. And while we're on the social services agency, Judge, I had gotten a call and I think all you all received a call from the adult daycare of North Texas. We cut those findings completely and not a call. You know, the letter. And I talked to the gentleman's foot on Sunday night at an event because he had talked to me earlier about it. And I told him that if he had a problem he needed to send us a letter and he did send the letter and I didn't get it but he emailed me Sunday night and I told him that I would certainly bring that up. Is there any interest? The funds were asking for $7,680 and this is adult daycare for adults that are not able to stay home by themselves, that would otherwise go to the nursing home. And I want to know if there's any interest in finding this agency. I certainly would like to give them $7,000. And I know the committee did not recommend it, but page S, one toy obviously, social services. I'm not inclined to go outside of the committee recommendation. It's one toilet. One toilet. Uh-huh. 12. Dr. Herndt, did you have a chance to look at their budget? I'm sorry I put you on the spot Have that with me. I'll be glad to get it have it here if we're going to be here this afternoon I'll be glad to have it. Have it here. If we're going to be here this afternoon, I'll be glad to have that available for you this afternoon. Hopefully we're not going to be here this afternoon. Okay. I'll see if I can get someone to get it to me this morning. Okay. If there's not any interest, there's not. Any injuries? Let me ask the question. I've already indicated that I'm not prepared to go outside of the committee's recommendation. I'd like to know how the court members feel about it. Well, I don't have any. We don't remember a letter and I say we I share a share a letter so I have no idea what the adult day care of don't take the light. The letter was dated June 26. And I listen to the same art copy letter. Yeah. Well, let me just say this. And I'm staying to jump. I'm perfectly fine. I have no, I have nothing against this organization and the work they do at all. I know they do. They certainly fulfill a need. But if you recall all the organizations that asked to be on the juror donation list, we start getting letters from every single one of them at what point are you going to say no I'm sorry but I think that our committee has made a good recommendation and I would like to stick with it I just forward you the letter I can understand I said June 26 I meant 16, so if you want to take a look at it, and Joe just certainly understand you're kind of like the old squeaky wheel. We started asking her letters from everybody and you're going to have hundreds. Oh yeah. And I'm not sure the methodology that the committee used. I think it's important that we balance our money out. We do pretty good job that geographically and I think demographically as far as ages. These are for the seniors. I don't remember receiving a letter. Not that that would necessarily change my mind. I think they do a good job. When we look at these agencies, they receive governmental funds or grants and also a lot of private sector. It's just a tough time. Kind of when they need us the most, the stuff's cut back, but we've got to do what we've got to do. to some most that the steps cut back, but we've got to do what we've got to do. Is it a tough time for everybody to commission? But at the same time, I think our focus, my focus anyway, is specifically towards those organizations that supplement something that really is a county responsibility, a county function. I agree. Oh, that's why I'm feeling the way I do. Commissioner Coleman. Is your microphone on? No. I really hate to start substituting our opinion for that of the committee. to start substituting our opinion for that of the committee. For instance, I've been involved with the, you know, ARC, which is a tremendous organization. And they really only asked for $691. And for all the hard work and dealing with the difficult children they have to, I mean, they literally are doing the Lord's work. I'd like to give him $691, but I'm hesitant to recommend it. Okay, I'm not hearing anybody adamant about that, so we're going to move on unless somebody says something else. Okay. Judge, we also have Joe DeGonzolus here. He indicated that he would be happy to answer any questions that you had. I know you talked about building projects last week and specifically the exhaust fans that were requested for that building. If you have any questions, he's here to answer them. I think I'm the one that asked the question about the exhaust fans. Is this a safety issue? Do we have enough doors open there that we're okay? First of all, I asked the name randomly to give me the spec sheets of word that was bid for that amount. I made some contact with Lucville Fire Department who recently installed these systems in their bay. And speaking of which you've tittle that a three bay non drive through system similar to this, which is the tube stop system that commissioner you were talking about last week was around 20,000. And that would only be three days that we're looking at. The other question I think that one of the, maybe a new Commissioner Marchant that brought up that, well, I can't the doors be open and the trucks be pulled out. Well, specifically, two of these trucks have to sit idle in the bay for around five to seven minutes to build a pressure in the air system for the brakes. Specifically, when they sit for a two-day period period the brake systems will leak down and you have to start the truck Let it run for five to seven for build the air pressure up in it in the air brake system in order to pull it out to get it over 120 psi before it actually moves and that's the the issue It's not really the CEO that's in the bay. This the concern is based off of the Sub the submittal that we made to off of the submittal that we made to facilities operations. It's permeating the interior walls and making its way into the building. And that's the concern. And I don't know that the original question from Centennial shows 33,800. I do not have a clue what that is. And either does the facilities. It just said they're's just they calling it vehicle emission collection system I don't know what that is and I don't know what $33,000 is buying and how did they come up with the 33,000 I don't know how they came up with the 33,000 I do not know and those facilities request I would have to ask Danny but his his understanding was as they have to go out with so many facility requests and just try to get a ballpark figure of what they're looking at. Either the tubal exhaust system or the exhaust fans mounted in the building, something to get air moving out of the bay to the outside so it doesn't stay in the bay and permeate the walls. It's really all that we're looking for. Something very simple. Very simple. And we go back and look at that price. And I really would like to know. But at least hone it down to exactly what you want. If you don't even understand what the $33,000 is paying for, I mean, I don't know how people expect us to approve that. If I mean, God, I'm sorry. If you're right, Ron. But at least $2 a man. It's too, I think. We spent $33,000 on something that you have no idea what it does. I mean, you may have it. And I may have an espresso maker. I think this price would be the Cadillac on the emission systems Systems if you will and that's where it came from. So if you ask somebody to bid you Emission Systems, I'm going to bid you the Cadillac. Do we not have a monitor in the building? We do inside the building, yes sir, for that intent purpose. If we win, is it ever gone off? Yes, on several occasions based off of that. Yes sir. It's not getting a smoking area. Yes, I'm on several occasions based off of that. Yes sir. It's not getting smoking area. It's not near the smoking area. But again, and I understand your sentiments commissioner and I think that because these trucks only move five times a week instead of 15 times a day I'm a fire truck situation. We do not need that Cadillac type of assistant. We're simply looking at the simple system that will remove type of assistant. We're simply looking at the simplest system that will remove that air moving out of the bay into the outside atmosphere and not permeating the walls. And that's all we're looking for. Very simple system. How can you go back to Danny and you all sit down? Yeah, well, I think, it's big shop fans. We're currently doing that now. That's the method that we're trying to eliminate any of the CO in the building. Yes sir. Oh, we got you here. Also notice there was an issue about flag poles. It's my understanding that that's the only kind of facility that does not have flag polls out front. Yes ma'am. And it was a fourth year request for that. And the dollars that we're talking about there, don't they? I have the, again, the centennial budget request, budget submittal for that. And they are estimating that at 27,000 and the flag polls? Yes ma'am I don't think it. If you have been it provide it says provide an install 230 foot flag polls with internal hall yards provide install lighting or new flag polls 27,000 dollars. If flag polls are so expensive. Have you ever been approached by, I mean, we, in the colony, government center, were just, they were just approached by the cable people, one to put up an antenna, with inside a flag poll, and build it on our site. I'm sorry, I'm not been approved by that. And I'm not looking at just, you know, looking at that kind of dollars to build a flagpole in my opinion that's not physically responsible and to have it, but I think that the the facility needs some kind of flag poles if we can look at somewhere in this budget, next budget, donations. And we're trying to find that donation too, to do that. Did you get with Danny? And because I think he was involved in the discussion of Colony with the people that wanted to do the antenna. And I think John filled also. And maybe that'll serve their purpose. And we can get a flagpole out of it. Patient. I could get the court member support and help on that. I appreciate that. We try to find some kind of a donation or support in that area. Okay, thank you. Appreciate your input. Okay. Item number one on our agenda is Nascow presentation. I know it's a little early, but Tiffany with Nascow is here and ready to start her presentation. I don't have any information as a handout to provide for you. We hook an up a power point here. Let's have a handout that we'll hand. Damn. Thank you, Mayor. Purple things she's handing out is just our annual article that we do. The PowerPoint I'm giving, I didn't know if you'll head up pop up on your screen or not. Can we do? Okay. We have it here and it'll show up there too. Okay, so that's probably the key handout that has all the updates on what we're doing. Really? Everything. Thanks. updates on what we're doing. Members, I contacted Tiffany after we had some discussion about about other county association dues that we have and they had contacted me about their annual presentation of the state of Nascow. And I thought that was a good timing in order for her to come and give us their state of Nascow spill, if you would. And that's why she's here at my request. Great. She's saying to be here. I know that most of you are pretty familiar with NASCO. North America Supercordor Coalition. We were founded right here in Denton County in 1994. We started off as the I-35 Corrid corridor coalition and grown over the years to be North America's super corridor. That does not mean big, giant highway. It means we use the term super to mean more than just one corridor. We have smaller corridor coalitions within our organization. Our bottom line purpose is economic development along the I-35 corridor. We have split off now. We've got a lot of members from Canada and also Mexico, but in the United States I-35 is still our backbone. This is kind of the yellow swath right there is sort of what we consider to be our corridor focus area. We have members from cities and counties and states and private sector companies from all along this area. And we really, the mission, like I said, is economic development, but working on very specific focus areas. And so these are, I'm going to stay on this slide for quite a while, probably the whole time. And the rest of the slides just back up what I'm about to say. But over the years, NASCO, we have lots of different opportunities that come up, different pilot programs, different lobbying initiatives that we've worked on to get funding for I-35. And right now we've really taken what has grown so substantially and we almost kind of suffered from mission creep a little bit every now and then where people would come to us and say can you guys take on this initiative and we wanted to but we had to kind of figure out what does NASCO stand for. What we've done over this past year is really boil it down to the three focus areas that are in red here. Transportation, supply chain security and efficiency. We have a lot of projects under that one, the Sustainable Green Corridor, and then Workforce Development and Job Creation. Under the Transportation, supply chain focus area, we just completed a NAFTRAX pilot project. NAFTRAX stands for the North American Facilitation of Transportation, Trade, Reduced Conjection and Security. It's the longest name in the world. So NAFTRAC is it. But it was a supply chain security program. We got some funding from the federal government. We partnered with Lockheed Martin and some local companies on trying to make the supply chain visible and accountable and manageable. So it was basically taking a lot of the paperwork functions that happen with the supply chain, bills of lading, and all sorts of different data that's usually in a paper form and putting it electronically, having sensors inside, having tracking on the container so you can tell exactly where your truck or your container is. But then also having sensors inside that would indicate if the temperature has changed for perishable items or if shock has been sustained because maybe the truck drove off and hit a ditch and maybe your goods are broken now and being able to have that accountability of knowing when something went wrong so you know who to go to. We wrapped that up on April 30th but it was a very successful pilot program and we reached out to the state DOTs along the corridor and also to the private sector that's involved in the supply chain to get their input and feedback on the program. Through that, we learned about the cross town improvement program, which is a current initiative that the Federal Highway Administration has going on. They've got a pilot going on in Kansas City. And one of the things about NASCO is that we're trying to take the best practices so to speak that are happening along our corridor and bring them to our other communities. Case in point, the CIT program that's happening in Kansas City right now, I've met with the North Central Texas Council of Governments and introduced that concept to them, which is. To take major metropolitan areas, the DFW Metroplex would be a great example, this tribe, the Dintin Dallas and Tarrant counties counties and work on eliminating unnecessary truck trips that are going on within the Metroplex that are having bad impacts on the environment, that are... Okay, no problem. That are having the negative impacts on the environment, but also the unnecessary trips that have wear and tear on the transportation infrastructure that we as citizens are paying for. Also, working on the security and the safety of just having empty loads going all over the place. So the CTIP program is designed to electronically provide information that can be shared between companies about where loads are that need to be picked up, where you're going to drop off the loads, that you can make a more seamless trip, having full containers either way instead of all the back and forth that's going on. They're estimating that it can save the Kansas City area about 40% of their unnecessary trips going back and forth. It has a huge potential to benefit the DFW Metroplex, which is much larger than the Kansas City area. So that's something that we've taken my slides kind of gone so I just go on my own. And then the Kansas City Smartport is doing a trade data exchange, which is a similar project to what we did with the NAFTRAX pilot program that I was talking about with the supply chain information and visibility. And they have asked NASCO to help them get area businesses involved in providing feedback to what eventually could become a co-opt. Thank you. A co-opt rather than having one company own the system that is benefiting that private sector company actually be owned by the users. It's a totally unique and new concept. The federal government's very interested in it. Obviously, the private sector is interested in it because they wouldn't be having to pay the fees to one private company, but they would have a much reduced rate for all this happening. So they've asked us to help them, you know, expand that program and bring it to the attention of the businesses all along our corridors. That's one thing that we're doing. Our island port network is made up of inland ports, which we define as intermodal facilities, at least two modes of transportation, foreign trade zone status, off the water. And we've got a number of inland ports that are either conceptual or developmental or fully operational, operational excellent example. The best example would be alliance here in Dintin and Terrent counties. But they meet on an annual basis and talk about different ways to share information, help when another improved upon what they're already developing or operating under. We have lots of environmental initiatives related to this group as well. So that's what we're doing there. Under Sustainable Green Corridor, we've attracted the attention of the Commission for Environmental Cooperation, which is a tri-national environmental arm that was created under the NAFTA agreement, but they've reached out to us to have the NASCO Corridor, I-35, and our links into Canada and Mexico to serve as the model for a green trade corridor. Through that effort we learned about the smart way partnership which is ongoing but needs a little bit more attention along the corridor and that's where it's an EPA program to provide businesses that this key members of the supply chain to get them to work and to give preferred status to any companies that have already worked on improving their environmental operations, like being more aerodynamic, reducing their greenhouse gas emissions, less idling, that kind of a thing. And then those companies get preferred treatment by the key elements of the supply chain, which then help their business. And they're also getting the indirect benefit of saving money because a lot of these groups have come up with funding initiatives and things like that. The Blue Skyways Collaborative, same deal there. They're working on Region 6 and 7, which is right up the I-35 corridor. They've asked us to help them expand their initiative to work on the idling and electronegification of truck stops, all designed. So my point is we're all working on the environmental impacts that the transportation has or the transportation impact to the environment and ways to promote that to be more sustainable. Our workforce development, we're working now with a Department of Labor grant, $1.5 million was granted to the North Texas Workforce Commission to create training programs for high school and community college level students that may not be going on to a university or a full four-year college to train them in logistics and supply chain management. So they can go straight into entry level positions. We interviewed a number of our private sector companies in the area that said they spend millions of dollars on internal training programs because they hire people that then need to be taught about the supply chain. So these certification programs are a huge deal in the future because it would be a universal certificate that can be universally accepted in the United States and hopefully in the Mexico and Canada. The companies know, okay, you have this level of training, we can bring you in and they don't have to spend their own funds training their new employees. And we're also going to be offering continued education and training events at NASCO events and our training opportunities at NASCO events in the future. We're working on our university collaboration with the universities along the corridor on pooled research projects so that they're not doing duplicate research projects in different spots along the corridor, but they're working together on those. And then again, we have, like the island port network, the stuff in blue, the Mexico committee, those groups fall into each of the three focus areas. They benefit from those as well. New things we've got going on are the NASCO report and the NASCO quarterly studies. Every two weeks, we sent out a report that kind of takes all the different newsworthy information related to our three focus areas along the corridor and boils it down into one report with some analysis from NASCO about what that means, you know, kind of rather than just having the articles that you can go Google but actually seeing how that applies to everyday life, whether it's a county or city or a private sector company. And then our quarterly studies are things like a freight flow analysis that we just completed and handed out at our last board meeting, the political state of the corridor, the different elected officials along the corridor, and how they feel about our three focus areas, environmental studies about the footprint of what's going on environmentally, where the alt fuels refueling stations, where are their gaps, helping Nascow figure out where we can be the most effective, but also providing that information to our members. And then we have basically this I've gone through. Since you guys have the PowerPoint, if you have any more information or more detailed information, you can look through that and definitely call me but I've basically said all of this already. And then getting to the regional meetings, we have a new approach this year. I've actually been asking for this for the past couple of years from our board and they finally approved it, but it's to have regional meetings. One of the issues that Nascos had in the past is that we cover such a large geographic scope. We have our meetings at a different spot along the corridor, but our members have to travel to go to those meetings. What we're trying to do is basically flip flop that, bring NASCO to our members so you don't have the added travel expense on top of your membership dues, be able to have, you know, we have one board member, in this case, it's Commissioner Marchant, who's been an excellent board member, but it's difficult for the board members to come back. I mean, it's a volunteer position. They've got a lot on their plate to tell everybody and inform everybody about what we're doing. So what we want to do is bring NASCO to you guys so that you can invite, you know, all the Commissioner's Court could come, you know, get 20, 30, 40 private companies and Denton that you think might be interested in what NASCO is doing or could benefit from information that we have, get the city, get, you know, state reps and legislative district offices and things like that so they can all come and hear about NASCO that way we're keeping more people informed and there's no travel expense involved. Also for our board meetings that we will have to have in different places, we're looking at a video web conferencing so that there's no travel required. But I think that'll be a huge benefit to what we're doing, and I feel like NASCO right now is really on point. We've got our three focus areas that are extremely timely, that everyone's concerned about. And then with the regional meetings, I think we'll be able to reach more people to keep everyone updated on our successes and our progress and our initiatives and see where different businesses fit in, different cities and county initiatives might be complimentary to other initiatives that we have going on. So I guess that's pretty much the update. We're also this year reducing everyone's membership dues because we know it's a tight year for everybody. So I think that then counties been paying either 25 or 20 grand in the past. And we've taken all the different counties and cities and cut by 5,000. So didn't do would be 15,000 this year, which I know might not seem like a lot. But when you do that across the board of all our different members, it's a it's a big hit that Nascos taking in an effort to help you guys out with your budget. In 20. 20. I think it was 20. This one was last year, so it'd be reduced to 15. 15. Well take it. Are you done, Tiffany? Yeah, yeah. I want to thank Tiffany. Guys, this is a lot of work and you have a staff of three. Yes, we try to keep it really lean. Right. And so they have a staff of three that can continue all of these initiatives. One I guess Tiffany and I'm going to just be up front with you here. Some of the concern that's a horrible word. Yeah, it's a horrible word. As you said, you retraced the tracks of this. This was an initiative that was actually began here in Denton County. And it was a way to attract economic development along the corridor that specifically went through Denton County. And then in order to help finance that, then it was broadened and offered through the 35 corridor, through the state of Texas, and then through initiatives at that time, went down to Mexico, and then went as far as Oklahoma, then it just spread it spread and spread. It's good for me to hear about some of the initiatives that I hadn't heard about, which are the regional meetings. My, and again, I hate to use the word concern, but I wanna see how it relates to Denton County and what Denton County can get from the services. I think that I understand the overall initiative and the grandiose scheme of it all. But I would like to see, for instance, how the, if you go back one more slide where you're talking about the three initiatives. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. The logistics train cluster. You know, here in Denton, we have two major universities. We have some junior college system along the corridor within Denton County, North Texas Central College and then yeah and and we have a lot. This like you said a Lions Airport is an inland port it's a hub and it would and my son just is graduating a couple of weeks just in case you want to know for you, University of North Texas and marketing and business marketing and part of his classes were logistics at North Texas and of course I'd pumped for all kinds of information. I would like to see these initiatives not only on a drawing board but being enacted within our service area if you would along our corridor and through our universities and I guess I want to see where NASCO can contribute directly to our economy here in Denton County and as those dollars as you talked about get tighter then the emphasis becomes inward rather than outward and I think I'm at that point right now and I've asked some information and it has come to me but I would like to see where NASCO and that's where I think those regional meetings are important where they can directly impact our economy and transportation didn't count. It was wonderful. I was with you in Chicago. The wonderful to talk with the gentlemen and the ladies that were there from Quebec and from Mexico. But the key conversation was the economy as well as our last presidential election, which was a direct, you know, of the economy. And they were talking about how Nascow had helped them within their economy and within Quebec or Mexico. And I guess I couldn't respond to them how it was helping us in Denton County. And so I would like to see more interaction within our own county through logistics programs in cooperation with the universities, what it's been done, or if the universities have within our particular one, University of North Texas have gotten any kind of grants or anything that you can co-partner with them on logistics or transportation, just like you were saying there, how it really affects us. I agree completely with what you're saying, and I think those of you that do know me, I shoot pretty straight, so let me shoot straight with you. I think you'll recall I was with the NASCO from when it started till 2000. I left for four years and when I came back in 04 the board asked me to come back and NASCO needed some help. It was not doing well. And so really I kind of view the rebirth of NASCO starting in about O4. So we've been at this for about five years, but when I came back, we didn't really have any members. So it's me, I mean everyone's saying, well, yeah, maybe we'll commit, we don't know, we'll see what you can do, kind of thing. So we've grown a lot over the past five years. And these organizations, I'm not one that likes to stand up here and say, we hope to do this. I think a lot of groups come and say we hope to do this. We promise to do this, but then after a few years it never materializes. But these groups take a long time to develop and get on the same track with such a large board and representing so many geographic areas. When we first came back, I think the idea was let's do corridor wide programs. Like this NAFTAX pilot program didn't necessarily have any direct local benefit, but it had quarter-wide benefit and a lot of indirect benefit to businesses. If the system we could prove that it could be done and could work to build upon how they can get involved and eventually it's going to save private businesses here in Denton County a lot of money, if systems like this move forward, which they will, because the federal government is kind of requiring that to be the way things go. And the private sector has pushed back. So, NASCAR's, a lot of our success comes from having the public and the private at the same table. But what we learned through the NASCAR X program and as a result of the economy and the financial crisis that everyone's having is that we've got to focus more on the local, we've got to flip flop it. Instead of doing quarter-wide benefit in direct local, it's got to be local benefit, which indirectly makes our corridor the best place to live and work and breathe and whatever else we're working on. So that's why I've been pushing to get our focus areas set. We've pulled, like we've met with UNT, I think it's Terry Poler and there's a guy named Steve and I'm not remembering right now because I met with a lot of people from a lot of different universities but their logistics group up there is top notch. One of the best, I think along the entire corridor. And so, but when we talk about having an educational system or doing the workforce development and the training, you kind of before we, the three of us, put a whole lot of effort in anything, we need to make sure that people want that along the corridor. So we've kind of spent the last year and a half polling, is this something you would get behind if we do it? And the answer has been yes. And so now we're doing it because we've kind of got that commitment there that, okay, if we're gonna throw some weight into this, the people will be there. With the regional meetings, you know, I said that we're having annual regional meetings, so there'll be at least one, you know, in the Metriplex, Oran, Denton County, but that doesn't mean we can't have more. or dent and businesses involved, I think like with our trade data exchange deal with Kansas City. They reached out to us because we've got the contacts quarter wide. We need the feedback from the business on how this program will evolve. And I think it could really benefit Denton County to be at the table giving their opinions, seeing what they're proposing, saying no, I like this or I like this. I think there's a lot of that involvement. I definitely see you and T being a major player in our university consortium is we move forward the training the the North Texas Workhorse Commission has that $1.5 million grant, but it runs out in December and There's not a whole lot of publicity about that certification program that they're working on So one of Nashville's role is going to be to publicize it in in their own backyard kind of help get that commitment to To get continued funding and then we've already also put them in contact with somebody that wants to help them write a grant to get $5 million additional dollars, up to $5 million. They will help that program extend to be able to do more good and that's right here in the heart. But NASCO, while we haven't, I certainly can't take credit for the program. It was there before, well, there's since last year, but now that we've learned about it, we want to make it be a success and have it benefit everybody right here and hopefully expand it to other parts of the corridor like we take the successful programs elsewhere and bring them to the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. One of the reasons why C-Tib, while I met with the cog here first, was because of the membership and the loyalty of you guys and Tarant and Dallas over the years, there were a lot of court or communities that were interested in that program, but I came here first because of that. And I hope that they continue with the project and we can help them. I'm planning on getting the Federal Highway Guide that's his baby coming to do the presentation of them, also the guide that's the program manager for the project. And it can really, when I'm out with the cog, they mentioned it could really help with data on freight flows in addition to just eliminating the unnecessary trips. So I really think that now our focus, we get this, we've gotten it, it takes a lot to get my board to agree to kind of switch things around. I mean, I'm wielding a big group of people that all have different opinions. And like you said, our Canadians and our Mexicans have benefited hugely from this because they're a little bit, there's not really anything like this in Mexico, so they've latched onto it, it's got them communicating with one another. It's a little bit of a different deal in the United States. So, but I know that it's important to get that local benefit, or I know that we're going to lose members. And so, I think that we've set a lot of good foundation in place over the past year and a half to get to where we are now, where we can actually go out and make that stuff happen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Two thoughts I've had. You've mentioned University of New York Texas a couple of times and that's great. Glad you're working with them. I want to make sure that you are aware about NCTC and our Central Texas College. It's a junior college in the in the Corinth, just south of Denton here. I know for a fact that they have worked with several companies that are either here or thinking about locating in Denton County to train work for a specific job within that company and they have designed classes around what that company needs and excellent. They have done that on more than one occasion. I believe they worked with Sally Beauty, and there was somebody else I can't remember. But they held classes to specifically train the workforce for the detailed job that they were being required to do. And I don't know how they went through the selection process to get the people, but I think they had certain people in mind that they wanted to hire, but they had to be trained. And North Central Texas College specifically designed the class to do, or more than one class, to do a specific job. And so that's been very helpful. And then the other thing I wanted to mention is, I'm talking about working with the Texas Workforce Commission. This body makes appointments to the board of Texas Workforce Commission and we have way too many openings right now. And I have talked to them about this, but I would greatly appreciate it if it came from your angle also. It is very difficult to find people to serve on that board because while I totally understand that they want somebody from the service industry or you know some kind of whatever industry you want to name, And I understand that and that's fine. They won't take anybody that's retired. And people that are working are doing just that. They're working. They don't have time to go over to board meetings and to be working in all this. But yet we have some certainly still very capable people that are recently retired, that still know an awful lot about their industry or business, whatever they were involved in, that could contribute and have the time to contribute to this board. We've got about six openings on that board right now and I'm having a very difficult time filling those board positions. And so while I have given them my thoughts on that, I would appreciate it coming from another angle that I wish they'd reconsider that regulation. So I just presented them last week and there were a lot of openings around the table and I wonder if there are other counties that are having that same problem that probably are and you know I think that's a talent pool that we need to tap into to do not take advantage of it just simply because they're retired. I think certainly offensive to retired people should be. So all ask for a break. Brain doesn't quit working just because you retire. No, I'll ask about that and try to do whatever I can to make them pay for it. I just really appreciate if they heard it from somebody other than me. Okay. For having a hard time filling those positions. Any other members have any questions or input? I believe not. Thank you for being here to have me. Thank you guys very much. Thank you guys very much. Okay. Judge, there's also some information in your packet of all the county association dues on page R93 of your packet. Right. Well, first of all, we can take $5,000 out of the North American Super Highway Coalition line item. We had a budget for it. I got that. 20. and take $5,000 out of the North American Super Highway Coalition line item. We had a budget for $20,000. And while we're making reductions, the Texas Urban Transportation Alliance, sometimes called Tudah, and doesn't exist anymore. And I don't look for that to be resurrected, so we can take that $3,500 out of the recommended budget also. So with that, we need a formal action on it, don't we? Okay, I'm going to move that. We remove $5,000 from the North American Super Highway Coalition line and the $3,500 from the Texas Urban Transportation Alliance out of the recommended budget. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Oppositing motion carries. I do have a correction. Thanks to Commissioner Eaths. He caught this opportunity water authority. The FY2009 expense today, just $8,340. That should be $3600. They did ask for an increase for this coming year. Right. It's just FY200. It's $8,630. $8,340. It's $3600 for this year, for FY09. I sent everybody the e- email that came from Tom Taylor of Opportunity. They had not adjusted the dollar amount that the county had been paying for many years, actually, 2000, I think, was when all that started. And the city's paid based on population. And there's a formula that's all that's computed by and I think I forwarded that to everybody so you could see how we arrived at the E2 340. Upper Trinity does want to come and make a presentation of commissioners court about this and some other things but those funds needed to be budgeted if we are in fact considering doing that. One thing too I wanted to note on Texas Association of Counties for FY08, Shazero, we just didn't receive a bill for it so I didn't want you to think we weren't members but- You know we're still members. It's been 3500 in the past. 2440 hours out for years. That's it. So the cog by being a member of COG, we are also members of the aging regional matching funds and emergency planning council. What are those? Are those all total membership? We add those all together and that's what our total membership of COG is. We received separate buildings from those. They have separate divisions within COG. I know there's a lot of training opportunities available through the emergency. I think Commissioner Mitchell's familiar with that. The emergency planning council is the council that was put together after 9-11. And that we have firefighters and all emergency services, which I'm a member of in the that and so it's Judy. And the agent, you know, with the agent? No, I don't. I don't know what that initiative is. I mean, it's that agent like I'm getting old. That part or? Yeah, we have, we also have a committee that's the part of COG that for agent, a elderly, citizens that we said that I'm not a member of that, that they sit on for provide services for the agent citizens also. That's a protocol. So the total fees for COG are $28,000, build separately. That's correct. And that includes, you know, your RTC is what a car. All those different entities that that's there. And we're provided discount training for anything basically that the counties and cities any kind of training that they need you provided discount training for. Now, in the North Texas Council of Governance, when we were in our discussion about RFQ for the transportation consultant, and we were talking about a transportation, what is it? Theraffaire plan. What is it? The thoroughfare plan. That is part of the cog will provide and help with those services. I'm sorry. Are there any other questions or comments concerning this agenda item? And I'm talking a lot. I mean, that's why I wanted Nascow and that's why I wanted to talk about it I did have concerns with their focus they were all over the place and I mean all the way from Quebec all the way to Mexico and even branching out to the east and the west and I could see Nothing that was focused back Direct benefit to us or inward. Everything was outward and this is not the first time she's heard this from me. So hopefully she's heard it enough and the board has heard it enough since not just because I'm on it, but since I've been part of it that they are turneted inward rather than outward. And I did pull information on all of those Texas associations with counties and and conference of urban counties and and Cog also if anybody want that information I did pull information on what they basically offered to then county. In one way that we could involve them more in Ditton County. in county. In one way that we could involve them more in Ditton County. I would be working with Text on our master plan study for 35W from Ditton down to the county line. And so that will be where we started at the here this fall and working with all the cities, the large land owners, the airport DCTA. And so we're going to be doing basically a master plan of what we want 35 W to be when it grows up. And so we can be sure to include NASCO in that dialogue as well. They can be directly involved in that process too, which we find additional benefit too. Part of alliance, I mean, they help alliance with their inland port. And they use that alliance as a model throughout the entire corridor. And alliances, like one of our large stakeholders, which would be at that table as well. So it'll be good. Any other comments or questions? Okay, Donna. Item number three on the agenda we had meeting yesterday with members of the PEC, Amy Phillips, myself, Chattorn, Gustavo, members of Towers' parents. Amy's got an update for you on our health insurance plan and the update on where we stand as far as our budget is concerned. Thank you, Donna. In our meeting, we reviewed claims experience and cost projections for next year. The tower's parents consultant shared that the major consulting firms are predicting costs to go up nationwide next year, about 9 to 14% and 9 9 on the low end obviously 14% on the high end. Our costs are predicted to go up about 9.6%. So we're right in there in the trend and actually on the favorable side of that trend. I think I think that it? We don't have anything. We just met with them yesterday afternoon, and we finished about 4.30 or 5.00 last night. I have a packet, Commissioner, if you like copies of it, I don't have it with me, but I can send you a packet. After looking at the different claims experience, the large claims and that kind of thing, we met with them to go her very sharp pencil and we added up all the projected costs and it appears that we have just barely enough money in the recommended budget to cover the cost projection for next year. We will bring to you in the future some scenarios for premiums and any scenarios that we bring to you will be within the recommended budget. There's not a lot of extra money in there, but it appears that with everything that Donna has budgeted that there is barely enough money to cover next year's plan. I can just give you an update on the totals. We budgeted $14.5 million for health insurance in the recommended budget. Plus $4,000 in can, $400,000 in contingency, bringing that to about $14.9 million. The projections from PEBC for us for next year would be $14,850,000. So we're real close with their projection. It makes me a little uncomfortable that we don't have any additional contingency to fall back on. However, we have in the past, if we ran into a situation departments have been very willing to transfer souriatrician over to help with that if needed but it is very tight very close with what we've been to. As I know in the past we've done that but didn't we receive some information from HR that we were going to have probably not as much turnover we had in the past. This year we don't anticipate having to use any attrition, but you're correct that in the past sometimes we have had to transfer some attrition rather than carry over a debt in that program or alone in that program. A debt in that program or a loan in that program, our experience has been increasingly better each year, I think. We've gotten here, we used to transfer a whole lot. And then we decreased the amount that we had to transfer over the percentage that we had to transfer over each year. But turnover is down and there won't be a probably won't be a lot of extra money in there to transfer. Can we use some of the out-of-proper contingency fund for this year? Can some of that not be used to... Is the balance in that? We could certainly do something like that at the end of the year might give us a little cushion. That would probably be a great idea. I guess my point is that it's those type of situations that made me bring up the stuff regarding the situation we might have to be prepared for just because there are a lot of things that we have that aren't in our control namely health care expenses and some other items. I don't know since y'all early this morning an article it described another county that had to They're their problem in that other county is they have an uncontrollable law enforcement expense unfortunately they have a union sheriff's department that has an evergreen contract that requires mandatory pay rate as if they cannot get an agreement on it. And it's really kind of... A lot of things about the county that I don't agree with. Well, my point is, is that, you know, I think we need to plan for all contingencies, because health care is one of those things we can... It's tough. I know they do a really good job but it's hard to figure out exactly what it's going to cost us every year and it's one of those uncontrollable expenses. Faith that the PVC is done a great job as far as helping this control costs and give people good coverage and things like this. But you're right, Commissioner. And Commissioner Mitchell, I like your idea of transferring those funds. So we have a little more cushion. Do we need a formal motion on that time? Actually, I don't think we do. Today we can bring forth a budget amendment close to the end of the fiscal year after we do that. Make sure we do that. Certainly do that. One thing we have instituted that's been I believe very helpful to the plan is in the past if employees Perhaps opted out any insurance those funds weren't dispersed from their departmental budgets into our health insurance fund So a couple years ago we received permission from the court to go ahead and expense all budgeted health insurance permission from the court to go ahead and expense all budgeted health insurance dollars to the fund and that has really helped us significantly. I think we have about a hundred employees that opt out of our insurance plan 130 so you know that's ten thousand dollars each per employee that offs out that we are actually adding to the health insurance plan that has really kept us from in the past you heard us talk about having to borrow money from general fund you don't actually adding to the health insurance plan that has really kept us from in the past. You heard us talk about having to borrow money from general fund. You don't hear that so much anymore other than when we have a pay period where we have three or a month where we have three pay periods at a time. So anyway, I think our health insurance fund has improved significantly. There was a point where I think we had to borrow $2 million over periods of time to help the fund, but the courts been funding health insurance at the correct levels over the past few years. And we'll be hearing about that some more in the future. Amy brings us some different scenarios to sit on rates. If you'd like, it's probably a good opportunity to look at item number five, the tax rate discussion before we kind of get into any other items. On page R94 of your packet, R94, you'll see a summary of the tax rate information. I've included the current tax rate, what was estimated for the recommended budget, as well as the actual effective rate that we received last week from our tax assistance or collector. The item highlighted you'll see is based on the action that the court has taken so far today plus the recommended budget. We're at a tax rate of 0.24896 or 2.81% above the effective rate. That actually you'll see reducing them.05 as where we had projected We thought the effective rate was going to be a little bit more than it turned out to be so that's good news And with the action that you just took to reduce those agencies takes the rate down to 0.24894 Or 2.80 Commissioner March 894. 2.894 or 2.80%. 90 R 94. Commissioner March had asked that we apply the various salary scenarios and I've done that for the next three lines. You'll see that if the court were to implement bringing all of the employees to the minimum ranges that were recommended by every green solutions, you'd be looking at a rate of .24969 or probably more like 967 or 3.10% tax rate increase. Whereas again right now we're at 2.80. If the court were to consider a 2% salary increase for all employees without adjusting the minimum, the rate would be 0.25178 or 3.97%. And then the other scenario is if you apply 2% raise for every employee and then adjust everyone to the new minimums, the rate would be 0.25223 or 4.16%. and those will be slightly less based on whatever changes were made today. Well, members, I personally don't... The difference of adding the scenario of bringing employees to minimum is, I don't even know how to say that. Seven tenths of one tenth. How do you say? Seven one hundred. Seven one hundred. Seven one hundred. Increase. You know, I think that I could go for bringing the employees up to minimum. I think that would help in the implementation of our new pay plan and rather than having to double that effort next budget process. We'll just be that far behind the next time we talk about this next year. Well, we have another item here number seven, this salary, anomalies that Amy was going to talk about, but I think it's important that we do that. Or we're going to be addressing this repeatedly next year as new people come on board into those positions that are below the minimum. So I feel strongly that we need to do that. Yes, sir. Donna, what's the difference in the third row down? We're just 0.4.05 and then the tax rate with changes and bringing them all over that, because that's less. I'm just trying to. Yes, when we were working with the recommended budget, James and I were using our best guesstimate for the effective tax rate. And we thought the rate was going to, our estimate was that it would increase from the current rate of 0.23577 to an effective rate of 0.247. Because you did have the new value, because you did have the new value. Because I'm looking at the same that doesn't make sense. Okay. And then with the recommended budget that we presented, as you know, we added the one penny increase for the debt service portion that was approved by the voters in November. So that's where our 4.05% increase came into play. Actually, without the changes, I think we're more at like 3.11% of what the effective, the true effective rate percentage increase was. This includes the revisions that you've already taken action on. But so the good news is the rate and the percentage increase is less than we thought. And the one thing that our values came in better than we thought for one thing. I guess. That's an edge. But these are all. And then the one cent, you said that was more like 0.85? I think it was, I don't have it right here with me, but I think it was... When it less than a penny was. If we did the bringing those folks that are below minimum up to the minimum of the range Instead of 0.24969, you think it's what? Before 969 or slightly less than that, 967 probably. This is Judge. Yes, sir. How many employees are impacted? Roughly by that 384? I can't remember. Don't have done this. I'm sorry. I think it's on a handout in here. I don't know what I didn't ask you the question. I payed a 50 of your packet. A50. A50. Those two employees, three employees. Oh, it's a lot more than that. There should be a comma that have a period right. Is that it? 384,000. Miss, I think three or four employees that you were thinking of are the employees who even with the value of that job is, which is very important. From a week to week operational standpoint, you would avoid a lot of issues that would be coming before you requesting to make exceptions. And from a morale standpoint, you would be avoiding the possible perception or misperception that those exceptions are being made for some and not for others based on things other than how it would try to implement the program. People, not all employees would understand why exceptions were made sometimes and not others. So, it's, you know, that $384,000 investment would really eliminate a lot of problems in the next 12 months. Mr. Collins, did you have a question? Yes, I was wondering if, um, should we address the salary anomalies before we get into this? That's an element. If you adjust all the employees to minimum, then that's the- You take care of the salary anomalies. The salary anomalies that are below minimum would be taken care of. The ones that are above maximum maximum we could carry that way. The streets. I'm looking at this chart here. Is it five? How many positions to the judge? There are five. I'm below right now. Five below market right now, based on the salary scale that y'all previously adopted. I don't know how many for the... I don't know off the top of my head. I know I had somebody count that for me but I have forgotten that in the last couple of weeks but let me get that for you. The winner of this right now is five people are going to get 300 and E4, though. I know. That's not correct. That's correct. I want that job. That's just the adjustment. No, that's not correct. Let me just clarify. The five positions that are included here are below the minimums that the court has already adopted. Then you need to be rectified So these need to be rectified. These need to be rectified. The other 384,000 will come up with how many people will be impacted by that. I don't know that. Amy's going to check on it though. Okay, that was not making sense. Great. Members, do you need to have that number from Amy before you take action on that? I'm inclined to take action on this today. I think it would be very helpful to budget to have a decision on this matter, unincluding the tax rate, proposed tax rate, or I'm not really proposing a rate here, but bringing the employees up to a minimum, including that 384,000, which addresses the non-alies and those people that are below minimum in the new ranges. The 384 of 57 just to just those people to the new minimums recommended by Evergreen. The other is additional. The anomalies on page A50 would be in addition to that. A50? Yes, ma'am. And include those people. I think we I'm sorry Donna what did you say? I'm about $3,052 additional dollars. Basically 390 more or less. I think I gave you the wrong number. I apologize. It's $11,870 to bring those five positions up. The $3,000 was if you were going to do anything as far as a raise for employees of what you might consider for those that are maxed out. So it's $11,870. I say that again. The cost would be $384,057 to bring everyone to the new minimum. OK. And $11,870 to adjust. Those five. Those five. $870 to adjust. Those five. Those five. Three. The $3,000 figure that I quoted you was, I was looking at the wrong line. If the court were to consider a raise for all employees, we have a policy for maxed out employees that they receive half. That was that number, but I don't necessarily see that happen. We're at $3.95, $9.27. Right. I won. Plus the $11,850 for those five people that are... No, the point she's making. Is... How is the museum director classified? is How is the museum director classified? The $395,927 addresses both of those issues, correct, on? 395,927. I'm going to make a motion. I'm going to make a motion that we bring those employees to minimum, that's $384,000, $57,000, and also the $11,870 to address the five employees that are below minimum. Did I say that right? For a total of $395,927. We have a second. Donna are the, or is it Amy? Donna on a 50. These are the five positions. What's the difference between the tension lieutenant and the juvenile case manager and these three below? These are these are above. The ones below are the max above the other is not addressing the maximum. Those are not getting any additional. That's why we make sure. Everybody clear on the motion? We'll be fixing some of the jail lieutenants, right? Does that want to, does that want to see? We'll take care of three lieutenants in the medical area, jail help. We're addressing those. What we're not addressing is the people who are above maximum. Everybody clear my motion? I want to turn it in, but just five of those. We have detention lieutenant. Medical. juvenile case manager. There were two detention lieutenants. There are two chief deputy constables because there's one in six and one in one and the juvenile case manager. The juvenile one juvenile case manager. For total of five. Okay, that's five. That were below. Yes. That were brought up. And the rest of this is bringing the rest of the remaining people. Okay. All right. Any further questions? Everybody clear in the motion? Okay. Motion's been made in second hand. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the seat. Motion carries. You want to go to the spreadsheet? Don't know. Do you want to keep going on with you? There is one project I want to make you wear a agenda item number 11. If we could on page A55, it's a new A55. A55. In the... Oh, boy, it's hard to hear. Sorry. In the current recommended budget, law library shelving was included as a second phase. The county clerk's office, it of course is in charge of that project and they've been working with purchasing on finding appropriate shelving that would actually hold the weight of the books and they've had a lot of difficulty with that. This request would actually take this year's money and roll into next year's money so that they can complete that project all in one year and have appropriate time to get it bit out appropriately. We can actually reallocate that money at this time because the county auditor, his estimates indicated that we would spend that money in this fiscal year. That is not going to happen so we can actually lower his estimate. It will increase the fund balance and have no net impact on the budget for the law robbery or the county at all. It's just actually allocating money currently budgeted into next year's budget. Bill Mue, seconded by Commissioner Eads. Discussion? On favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Which one? I had one question. I know. Does this come out of the library fund out of those funds that we can? Yes. It does. Any out of the lawsuits, correct? It's out of the library fee that's collected. Yes. Any further questions? No. No questions. Thank you. I'll in favor of the motion. Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Any motion carries? Okay. Other than the building expenses, we can put that on for the next week's agenda. We can go to the changes sheet as you mentioned, Judge. And start working out the various appeals that were submitted by our departments. The spread, everything highlighted on the spreadsheet action has already been taken. The items left are items to be considered. The first one on the list was District Clerk. I request for two new hires and appropriate equipment. The second was Justice of the Peace precinct II of any area of office supplies and computer supplies. That is one area I think I mentioned to you when they made their appeal that you might want to consider some additional funding for their computer supplies and perhaps the lower amount for their office supply line on them. I did get a little happy with the red pen, I think. I'm starting to make that. I'd make a motion to accept that recommendation. I don't know exactly what those dollars are. It would be $935 for office supplies and $291 in computer supply. I'll second the motion. Discussion? Questions? On one favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, sen. Motion carries. Two. Right. 935 in the 291. Next on the list, to's a construction manager, new hire position. I know the courts had some lengthy discussion on that. I don't know if you've been able to resolve the questions on if this is approved where the position would, who they would report to and all that. But that's the next one on the list. Members, I'm thinking about this a little bit. I would like to propose that I think we all agree that this person who ever it is is going to be working with all these different departments. I think this person needs to be reporting to Commissioners Court. I don't really consider them a department head because they don't have a department. The services are being requested to complete the task is outlined in the proposed job description. I see them working with all these departments and consequently I think it would give that idea when we try to find somebody to fill this position that the committee review all applications come up with a short list and make a recommendation to commission's court. I would like to see the job applications for your shortlist. I don't need to see every job application if you all want to see them. That's fine. Just let Amy know. Okay. But then I think it was discussed for this person to physically locate in the same area as Danny is. And my, I guess my question is, does anybody see this person needing to use Danny or anybody else's staff, really? I don't see a conflict as far as it was brought up the other day about, well, gee, what have Danny's got these people scheduled to do, whatever task and the construction manager says they need them to do whatever. I think that's something they can work out and schedule. Sure, they're going to work with everybody. I mean, whoever this person is, they're going to need information from every one of these departments to stay on top of things. But I don't think staffing is going to be an issue. I see this person making reports to commissioners court on a regular basis. And I think they should report to commissioners court just like we have department heads, report to Commissioner's Court, but be physically located in the same office areas where Danny is located. Anybody have any other thoughts serve? I agree with that. I agree. I can't hear you. I agree with you. I just seems to me Danny was having some heartburn over that. I think the stuff is going to be, you know, enjoyable. But if the person is not in need for that. The only concern I have is that the accountability is the direct accountability to the commissioners court. You know, I have a problem as it is when I do reviews of employees that I have no direct knowledge of what they do or communication with. Who does this guy? I mean, are we going to the scenario be set up? Where he is? I mean, when we start doing reviews and stuff like that, will we be doing those? Well, you know, I mean, it just seems like an ad hoc employee with no structure other than a job description belowing. And I think that, I mean, I think that's what the recommendation was to have it under facility because it's already a structure that's there. I'm not saying that's the best place for him, but are we going to be funding new computers, telephone? I mean with all with this employee as well as there any other repercussion to that? And then does the commissioner court take that person to task for not doing their job? But the short answer I believe is yes. Because I look for them to make regular reports to commission's court. But... And you would this person be qualified as examiner non-exempt? Under the flissa. At the top of my head. I would think with all the things that this person is being asked to manage at the top of my head, I would say they would be exempt because I don't think they're an inspector in the sense that some of our inspectors are, I think they're more of a manager working with a lot of different areas at a pretty high level. So I would think they would be exempt. Fall into the administration before provision. Supervised anybody. Provides two or more people. Doesn't have the ability to hire a fire. Doesn't fall within one of the professional exemptions. I'd have to say be doing administrative work though was that was directly related to the business of the county. Construction manager that sent the engineering division or under a banner is the exempt or non-exempt. That position just recently is going to be changing from exempt to non-exempt. But I think those jobs are very different than what you're asking them to do. Unless I miss understanding. Why is it changing? Why did it change? As part of the recommendation from the study, remember we had them look at a lot of different ... A DOL rules change substantially too and too long. They changed and that job has changed from when it was originally designed. When it was originally designed it did supervise a couple of people and it was I think a different job than what was described in the JAT. I'd like to hear from Beth or anybody else that would contribute to the conversation about what the reason for this recommendation of a new employee is it. He's not here. Eddie? On real quick, just my input is having looking at the little organizational charts. It seemed to me, I mean, literally, he would look good to have him book in the other construction manager with Bennett. He has one construction manager working on roads and stuff like that. And then he'd have another construction manager to running the facilities construction projects. I haven't talked to Bennett about it, but I was just looking at flow charts, and it looked like it would book in. It'd be more of a pyramid. I don't know if that makes sense, but just. I'd even like this job not to even be a forever job. I'd like for it to be a job that just gets us through the building season, so to speak. And I would mind it being a contract? Yeah. Rather than having somebody that's going to be on the payroll forever. Because Mr. Dynway discussed that and pros and cons of whether you contract with some company or somebody to do the job or have them be an employee. And we kind of felt that we'd have, for lack of a better term, there undivided attention if they work just for us rather than hiring some company or contracting to some company. There may be some question after that. Would you like to do this job for wall and not? And I think we also discussed that going into it, this person needs to be advised that this isn't a 25-year job. This is... That's what I'm talking about, too. ...as long as they understand that going in, it's... It's too complete. We're going into a building phase. Right. Hey, we've got Andy's building that we're fixing to look at. We've got all of them. There's a F-88 if you look at the the list of justifications for the job I'd like to hear it's not a thing when we calm down under under a department is what you do is that when that department has work to do they use that person to do it and we don't get the full benefit of using that employee when you turn down a department and I'm not for increasing departments. The CIP plan right now goes out only seven years and in those seven years you have a lot of very large building projects a lot larger than than what we've had in the last seven years or in recent years. That's just a seven year plan, but I don't know that Denton County is projected to stop growing any time soon. a very fast pace and they're still having to build it a very fast pace. So I don't know when we won't any longer need a construction manager in Denton County. I only say that because if you're going to hire an employee for something that's at least up to seven years out there and you really don't know what's beyond there. You might limit your recruitment possibilities if you give someone the idea that they're not going to be here to be vested and for the long haul. We don't guarantee employment when we hire anybody. when we hire anybody. But, um, yeah, I don't see a real start to the building phase anytime soon. I can tell you this, I'm just having dealt with clients. I do labor and employment law in the past. The IRS very much frowns upon us having a captured contract employment because that generally means we're not paying with holding and all that other stuff and I know from anecdotal from some city managers that the IRS is auditing governmental entities looking for this type of activity and generally they make you come back and penalize you and also make you pay the pack with holding so if we had somebody we couldn't really say we're hiring you your contract and we're only exclusive client. That makes it look like you're an employee but we're not paying the withholding and the benefits. You also can't direct them along those lines, you can't direct them the way you can direct your own employee. They have to have the freedom to do the job, use their own tools and do the job the way they want to do them if they're a contract employee. You can't control their schedule or anything else like that. I hear from Beth. Is it a V.R.A.A. Much to add in the absence of Danny and Kevin who we kind of all three collectively came up with this recommendation. Our goal was to enhance the processes that were in place and to give us a method and a single point of contact to protect the interest of the county, minimize change orders, all those kind of things. But to keep our projects moving forward, we actually never saw it as a separate position from facilities because we do believe that probably support staff will be needed and also just it needs to work in tandem with the professionals in the facilities department. You've got your HVAC, your electrical and everything else that are inspecting all those projects that are going to be working with this one person who's going to coordinate it, but you need all those people, just like you're going to need people from our department and IT as well. So that's the way we envisioned it. It doesn't mean it wouldn't work some other way, but we always saw it as an enhancement to the facilities department that would also assist purchasing and I.T. Well I guess back to the fact I think I you know maybe you should be attached to facilities. I don't know how we do that but if they they're going to need there, somebody to answer the phone, run copies. I don't have a big problem with that. He's still making regular reports to commissioners. Court, he's going to office over there in facilities anyway. Office of the Steel report commission's co-it. I said I expect this person to make regular reports to commissioners court on the various projects. What did I couldn't clearly hear you? What were you saying? What was your idea? I had one idea just looking at the different flow charts when I was reorganizing road and bridge and I kind of had a light bulb go off in my head and said we've got one construction manager who's doing a lot of road construction and working for the county and working for Bennett. It would kind of book in to have another construction manager. Makes sense we generally have two type of construction projects going on in the county or building new buildings where building are redoing roads. You've got the county engineer, provided engineering advice. We got one guy who's in charge of all the road type projects and other person who's in charge of all the building type projects. That was just an idea. I haven't talked about it at about it. I know that we had kind of been trying to figure out where we would place this person or if we did place him in an apartment. I just was throwing that out there. It seemed to me it would kind of book in the fact that we have two projects. We got one construction manager already. We slip in somebody right beside him, kind of in the same manner. But if that gave Danny Hartburn, who he had to work with, I mean, I'm willing, I think he's got to be slipped in somewhere. He's gonna need he's not gonna exist in a vacuum He's gonna need secretaryal support. He's gonna need a phone office somebody to do copies I Think we're borrowing trouble if we don't slip him into some department Which one I guess is the the crux of the matter? Okay, well let me ask you this. For budgeting purposes, we can make those decisions later. We can still think about it. But for budgeting purposes, I think we need to take action to approve this dollar amount in the budget. We can discuss and cognitate the alignment right now. The primary concern is narrowing down the budget to get to a bottom line. The appropriate thing for me to make an emotion to add the position to the budget. It would. The amount of salary is recommended by staff. We have a motion by Commissioner Cohen. Including my motion, y'all, you know. I believe the total here is 91,787, does that correct, Donna? And that includes consumer computer software I believe the total here is 91,787 as I correct down them. And that includes consumer computer software and the lease and the phone expense and remote access and salary. Second. I have a motion by Commissioner Coleman seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Other further questions or discussion? We anticipate this person being an engineer or not. The job description requires a bachelor's degree in engineering, architecture, construction, management, or a related field. It does not require a professional engineer or a civil engineer. I think that was with the committee intended to correct I see heads going up. Dollar amount just seems. Okay, we, any further questions? Includes the computer and the. With 88,000. I would compare to what we're paying our county engineer. I mean, you got some, I think that's awfully close. That includes benefits on, that includes benefits commissioner. That's not just salary. But is this salary or what would be the proposed salary? About $65,000. Okay, we have a motion that's second on the floor. Is there further discussion? Here none on favor of the motion. Please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Aye. Motion carries four in favor, one opposed. Folks, it's noon. I'm getting hungry. Anybody else? Could I just clarify on that? I mean, the decision as far as where that position is going to be located. We have figured that out. can we have that on next week. Yeah. In order to finalize the document. I'll wait to know where it needs to report. Where this person is going to physically be and who they're going to report to needs to be decided next week. At a minimum. Maximum I should say. I doubt that. Under Robert's rule since you voted against it you could be. I couldn't. You could but I couldn't. I also died for lack of a second. Done is there something you need right now? Can we go to lunch? You know what I have to do. We can go lunch. There's not a lot left on here, but it's, if you're all ready to go, we can come back. Good to lunch. People are ready for a break. No, we don't have a lot, but I want to think. OK. 130? Everybody? OK? All right. We're recessed to 130. Everybody? Okay. All right, we're recessed to 130. I'm sorry. We'll go back to Donna. Excuse me. I think the only thing on the first page we hadn't taken action on was for district clerk if you want. If you're not inclined to take action, we'll just make a note of that on our spreadsheet. Well, I for one would rather take action on the district clerk records management request on the second page by the contract labor. The web application developer. That's the $44,642. Correct. I'm inclined to be supportive of that, but not the page one request. Page two of the spreadsheet, the contract labor request for web application developer. It wouldn't be a permanent position. I would like for us to do the allocate the money and then have. Sherry work with Kevin and then identify that we do another vendor since but allocate the money but not hire an employee. Not hire an employee full time but faster. Right. Contract labor or use that for a vendor to. I know the key. Yeah. I allocate the money but not. The money would be according to this part of the spreadsheet would be in a line and I'm called Contract Labor in the District Clerk Records Management Fund that you could hire a company or an individual either one. Okay. Anybody else have any input on that? If not, I'm going to make a motion. Thank you. I'll move approval. Okay. Thank you. I have approval. Okay. Under discussion, go ahead. Pull your microphone down so we can hear you please. The money for this is coming out of the fee that's filed with court cases. Yes. This is the district court. District court records management, but it's so it won't have an impact on our tax rate at all. It'll just reduce their fund balance. The records management fund fee, yes. All right, the motion is by me, the second is by Commissioner Marchion, to approve the $4,642 for contract labor position or to contract it out with some company to get it done whatever our district clerk and Kevin Clark determined to be the best way to go. That's the motion and the second is a further discussion. What was the dollar amount, Judge? The second page of the spreadsheet. It's $44,642. All right. It's $44,642. All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Aye. There is four in favor, one opposed. And I don't, do I hear anybody wanting to go forward with the district clerk's request for the senior deputy clerk position? I don't hear anybody making forward Motions on that so I believe that's a no action item So the next thing Considered I believe is on page two considered I believe is on page two. There any discussion on the Constable Precinct 3 request. Sounds like there will be no action on that item. The next is Constable precinct four requests, the Sergeant Reclassification. Very good off. Yeah, considering that, till maybe next. Third discussion of this, till next week. Ah. From what I've been told is that Constable has some either would still like the opportunity to get some information from Evergreen I believe that has did they take that in consideration when they I'm sorry I didn't hear what Commissioner Coleman said the classification of sergeants I mean did, did Evergreen take that into consideration when they were doing there? I believe that Constable Truett represented the Constables in a meeting with Evergreen. I assume but I do not know that he talked to them about that. Constable had some Mueller, although I encouraged him a couple of different times to submit information to Evergreen, I don't believe he ever did. As far as you know, have they addressed the issue within Evergreen, the weather that is a, it is, to me, I've always been a proponent of the sergeant, but if we do it for one, we need to do it for all. So it becomes an issue of non-equality, but equal treatment under their offices. Which that is basically one of the justifications that we took a part time employee in precinct six and made it in the recommended budget to a full time, to have parity, I guess you would within the offices. And so if I believe if we did a reclassification of sergeant, we'd have to do it with everybody. And that's why I wondered if it was taken up in any kind of discussion with evergreen, whether it was not part of the recommendation, but if it wasn't brought up to them as a needed part of the constable's office, I wonder if it got a fair shot. I believe that might true it brought it up, but I've emailed his office today for to double check and I have not heard from them. Any other questions or comments on this issue? I don't think anything will be heard if we just postpone it a week. What do you think, Ron? Well, we'll have some Bulebree here this time. Next to speak to it. But they're next week to speak to it, and it just kind of flows out. I've had a lot of conversations with Constable Hatch and Buleer on what I wanted to see the position to look like and if it was reinstated and anyway I haven't heard a response to that. Thank you. We give him a week to show up and he gets to say his piece and we make our decision. Hey, there will be no action on that today. Anybody else scared us anything else on the subject? If I could just on that subject, next week is our last schedule budget workshop. So if there is anything, I mean, we have no basis to work up an impact statement for any of the positions. We don't know how it would rank out. So I don't know that we would rank out so I don't know that we can be prepared by next week to give you if you discuss it next week to have an opportunity for the position to be ranked and for us to have a grade to put the dollars to it. I would ask the Court to consider that other departments have asked for things later on in the process and we've referred them to Evergreen and we've referred them to the process that took place this year and that everybody else had to go through the process. The process of interviewing with evergreen to get input or at least submitting a job assessment tool they didn't submit anything not on time not like So I think we should take no action on it Because it seems like there's a high-man client agree with your commissioner because the commissioners court has addressed this subject with them before and Come back to the scene. Good point. And that is how many chiefs do you need in one small office? So every year we've asked for information and we get the same information every year. To my mind doesn't justify it and others may feel differently but that's all I feel about it. Chief Berch was here this morning and I don't know where he's at right now but if you have information we should have already received it. Well we've all over a period of time received emails phone, and a lot of cases personal visits. And I haven't seen the information supplied changed rather than they wanted. I'm not inclined to be supportive of this move. Amy makes a good point. There's other departments that would like reclassifications too. Test can't even come over. You just send the text message. Beef birch in the area. What is that? Are you supposed to talk or a certain listen? Are you supposed to talk on the side in position. Right. The print of material. But the office supplies. Right. And we have not taken action on the office supplies last week and we before did we not. I think we move right along. What is the? The door hangers were removed. The 721. Labels in the track or hangers, but we had the labels in the traffic tickets. The price lowered. About $400. Cracked on a. $1025 for the two. The labels were 400. the tickets were 625. What was the justification? Was it just more or was it were things out of date that they were needing to? Really for additional funds and our recommendation was based on, they receive Constable precinct one for example, for printing material has $500. Precinct two has $2,000, precinct three has $1,000, precinct four has $17,87, precinct five has $12,33, and precinct six has $18,62. So this would make them have double what most of the other departments have in foreprinting material. That was our justification for recommending it remain at the current level. At the 17? Yes. Okay, because they were wanting 36 or something. Okay. But hadn't they already used 17? They ordered a lot of stuff. They ordered a lot of stickers and a lot of abandoned vehicle tags and parking violation tags. And that's where they purchased a lot of things this year. But it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to use them all in this year. It looks like it could carry them for a while. use them all in the It looks like it could carry in for a while To that at all We've had an increase of parking violations along 377 and highway 114. We've got an area that the core property where folks go back up in there and hunt and fish, well they're parking their cars up on the roadway, which is becoming a road hazard. We're having a lot of major accidents in that area. We're starting to have a lot of issues as far as traffic control because of that parking up on the roadway We've been instructed to tag each vehicle It'll be tagged once it'll be told on the second violation We're also experiencing a lot of problems with the traffic coming from the Texas Motor Speedway as far as tickets goes and That's why the influx or the increase was being submitted and that's why the influx or the increase was being submitted. First the sheriff's appointment on that, I mean, Facebook, Facebook, or whatever. I usually don't come down into that area because it's right down on the border with Rowanoke between Rowanoke and Flaremount and the 114 is actually in Rowanoke. But their chief has elected due to politics not to enforce anything down there. I'll say no we will. Pretty much. So we've been instructed to correct the situation. Sir? Yes. But we're talking to $1,000 here. But the revenue is coming back into the county because a lot of the tickets that are being written, I'm writing. Eight traffic tickets and you can't pay for it, I guess. So they're at 17 right now. What are we getting up to 2000? Yes, that's what they've spent. On page 829 of your packet, we included an expense history there for you for this department for OS6 through what's been recommended budget. The quantities listed there are the number of items that they've ordered not the cost. So for example for 2009 to date they purchased $2,250 parking violation stickers, $2,000 door hangers, $2,000 criminal shucks and so you can see there what that would encompassed and what they've You've just filled out some on hand right? Yes ma'am I do have some on hand now but like I said usually on weekends, they're going fast. I went through the first 250 stickers and two and a half weeks of those parking violation stickers. It's slowing down a little bit, but there's days that you'll see anywhere from six to a dozen vehicles up on the roadway. And because of the nature of the accidents and stuff that we're having in that area we've been told to enforce it. How about a recommendation to take them from 17, 87 to an even 2000 and if they need more or we're not talking that much more money we can go to contingency if we have to. Are you okay with that? I believe the chief is on his way. He's tried calling as I walked in so I'll say where he is and what his status is. Thank you. I'm going to make a motion then to take that to an even 2000. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Is there for the discussion? No, no. In favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Motion is carrying. The amount on your changes sheet will be 213. And here you go. 213 dollars will very replace that $1,025 figure. Write down if you order more. You're talking quantity, I think, Judge. I'm talking $2,000. $2,000. You're at $1,700 and some on dollars I'm saying take them up to even $2,000 I'm not talking about quantity in here I wasn't talking number of stickers I was talking dollars That's all I can think in budget dollars Good question, logical question. Okay, we've already taken action on emergency services and the preparations. Oh, action on road and bridge. Action on road and bridge. And then we just took action on the district clerk's records management, the contract labor. Does any interest in the? I don't see that we need this on the bottom of the district clerk records management list of items itemized out for office supplies and furniture and equipment. We didn't do the employee so I don't see that we need this. Is that a correct assumption? It's really not tied to the new employee. However most of the justification indicated that it was just in case they needed it. This is a fund that has about a, I think, $15,000 or $20,000 contingency line on them. So that's certainly, monies could move around with budget amendments during the year if need be. It can do the BA later, can they not? That's right. OK. Let's not take action on that. Then let's go to the next page. County Clerk Records Management. This is, again, out of the Records Management Fund with no effect on the tax rate, the Assistant Records Manager. I'm supportive of this. How does other members feel? Well, I would have been as supportive of the other one except I believe that our information services can help with that web site manager. As long as I check with the county clerk and the money is there now, they're not waiting on the money so she can pay for it if she had to do it today. Correct, Donna? That's correct. There's a significant fund balance available for this It can only be used or records management purposes and we're already paying for some employees Actually the county clerk agreed and in the recommended budget We moved four and a half positions from the county clerk's budget to this budget So she provided some great assistance and relieving the burden on general fund So she provided some great assistance in relieving the burden on general fund. As long as the money is there and we don't have to say it's going to come in and fees. There's about a $3 million fund balance. This is what it's designed to do. Thank you. I have a motion by Commissioner Marchant. Seconded by Commissioner Eanes for the discussion. Your none all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the city? Motion goes to carry. Okay. We've done everything else on that page. Aye, we're done to the last page. Yeah, we did that. We did the law library. The retirement rate on that page four, that will be brought back as a separate agenda item just for our regular commissioners court item. You did approve this salary anomalies the 11,870 earlier and I believe there's no action on the $3,052. If you all would like I can give you an update of where we are as far as the bottom line in the tax rate. We're looking at a tax rate at this point, a point two, four, nine, eight, eight, which is 3.19% above the effective rate. 3.19% above the effective rate. 3. How much? 9% above the effect. But you remember in the past you've given us a little bit of scenario what that rate would do to a house valued at $100,000. do to a house valued at $100,000. But that new tax rate would be as far as tax liability, increase tax liability on that house. I don't need anything like that big graphic or whatever, but just to get my head and maybe even if it was reported to the public of what that would represent, as far as a tax increase on average, whatever the median average cost of a home in this area is. I don't actually have that number. I haven't received an update. This year was about $211,000. I believe last year was the average home value. Hang on just a minute. $1,000 I believe last year was the average home value. Hang on just a minute. Was it an increase of $2,000? the bill. Today that taxpayer would pay $497 in county taxes. This budget here. Yes. If that value did not change, the $527. Again, that's all subject to the individual's evaluation. So our evaluation, it could a lot of properties went down. So. Yeah. Yeah. How's that surprise for $100,000 both years? You can tell us what the difference would be, right? Yeah. I know. I can't get used to doing that. If a home is valued $100,, both last year and this year. $235.77 compared to $249.88. $30.00, that'd be $2.50 a month. $4.97, then increase for $211,000 home. It's $497 with the rate that is recommended at 2.4988. It goes to $527. It's a $30 difference. $211,000. $211,000. $30. Is there average home value? That's last year's. I don't have this year's. Get up to average. Yeah, $211,000. $30. Is there average home value? That's last year's. I don't have this year's. Get up to average. Before 988. 2 for.88. $2.988. So what we're looking at. Before time I missed it for $9.88. And at $100,000 house, it's roughly $15 more. So $15 more per hundred dollars in valuation more or less $14.11. So anywhere from $1.17 for $100,000 home to $2.50 per month. on the list. But we have outstanding unresolved. Yeah. I think we're down to the sergeant and the construction manager. Are we not? What I have for next week's agenda is talk about the building project, the exhaust fans and all for emergency management and updated cost on that. Which is a specific excuse me, which is a specific he's just going to get a specific so what that 33,000 would be or a revised price for a project that might not be of that magnitude. Yeah, okay. And then the construction manager of the placement in the budget, which department that would be in the Sergeant Classification. And then we will next week be required to take a record vote on the proposed tax rate so that we can start the public hearing process and so on. I'm on vacation. You know, you're that? Like that. I just can't even. We've been following in a quorum. Now, when are you? process and some more vacation. You know, you know, like that. I just came up with that. We've fallen in a quorum. Now, when are you? Those lines. Before, you know, my wife works for a school district. So I asked Donna, when could I take an vacation in August? And she told me, not next week, but the week after. So I scheduled a vacation. No, no, no, the week after after which he said there's nothing going on. I asked her that when I was like in May fun as we take action like we need to next week that's true but the week after that I'm gonna take action right now actually on this sergeant position I'll be patient for change for change for a change. For a change? But if that particular constable who is asking for a reclapsication ask us what could he do to help accommodate then the immediate response from us is have you filled out a job assessment tool? Is that correct? I mean... The reclass was never requested in the budget. It wasn't requested in the process. It didn't mean it was for... It did last year, but then turned down. And it's my understanding that when he first brought this up and the question was, have you discussed this with Evergreen? He didn't know what Evergreen was. So that's the no action that I can... How about I make a motion that we take no action on the sergeant question in this budget year? How about us second, ma'am? Discussion? I'd really like to have Constable Hassan Gullieler come in and talk to us about it. I don't know why he has been here before himself personally. His chief deputy has been here before. I have received received I believe other court members have received written correspondence and you know if he wants to bring it up again next year that's fine but he didn't even request it in his initial budget request. So I'm inclined to saying that's it for this year. Oh, but I agree with all the points. Hi, we have a motion on the floor. Hearing no further discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. Motion carries three in favor to opposed. It takes here one issue. Is this what we think of by you? No, no, no, you can't quite think who I am. We don't have much. The more we can get decided, the better off it is next week. We have no action on it. It's everything else we can decide. And hold on a neck. Right. We have anything left or is that it the project and the Azure position We have allocated the money, but we haven't made a decision about where they're going to physically locate and who they're going to report to But for budgeting purposes I was just trying to get things as close as possible so I agree should we then finalize things we try make sure you make vacation week after next Yeah, if we then finalize things? We try. I want to make sure you make vacation week after next. Yeah. Yeah. If we didn't, we've got an appointment with Cinderella. I'm sorry, can you? The daughter has an appointment with Cinderella. Well, that's important. Oh, no. Oh, that's a good word. Yeah. Don't think I'd go with her. Thanks so much for giving her the lesson. So I got... I know that's great. That's great. Donna, is anything else you need from us today? Okay, so next year, next year, next week, excuse me, we will be needing to take a record vote on a proposed tax rate. And we set the date time and place for two public hearings. So that's what we need to be prepared to do. I'm sorry I hear it. One public hearing will be at night and wondering today. Any other questions, comments? You got everything you need, Donna? All right. Thank you everybody. We're adjourned.