Thank you item one is for input For items not listed in the agenda. There's any member of the public that would like to address Commissioner's Court We ask that you please complete a public comment form available from the aid to the court We'd be glad to hear from you want to remind everyone to please turn off your cell phones and paeers This morning first Commissioner Marchand is asked to have a few minutes of our time. Great. Thank you members of the court and Everyone that's here today, just giving an update on the Dink County Veterans Memorial. We have worked in the last few weeks, pouring the foundations for the granite walls and the Memorial walls that are going to be there. There's five of them. And we've already laid foundation. The Facilities Department has done a fantastic job and put all the electrical conduit and all the lights that are supposed to be part of that program. We're just now waiting for the rain to finish its duration and once that's done then we're going to be pouring the plaza, putting the flagstone in and then waiting on the granite walls to be delivered. But as part of that memorial we have opened up an opportunity for the public to honor not necessarily in memory of because they've deceased but on our loved one or a friend who has served in the armed services of our country. No matter if they're in Dinten County or they're in Bangor, Maine. In fact, we already have almost 50 of these stars that are a soul for their first wall and everywhere from California again to the East Coast people have already bought these memorials. And I don't know if Bobby can show these. These are the plaques that we have or memorial plaques that we are offering to the public to memorialize. to memorialize. I love one our friend and if you want any information on this please call my office at 9724347104. I think that's right. For the opportunity to buy these plaques that would be put on the granite memorial wall and we're just so excited that it's taken so much shape. And if you're ever in the Carrollton area, near the Sandy Jacobs Government Center, we ask you to stop by and see what our progress is. And then stop by my office and let me share some more information with you. Thank you. Thank you. Isn't there also information on your website? Yeah. It's on the website. And again, call at any time and we have, we'll give you the low down on how to purchase one of these memorial plaques. Thank you. Sounds like it's come along just great. Item two is for the consent agenda. Members, first of all, we'll need to pull 2D, best send an email about that. it'll be reposted. And then we have a correction on 2A, we're pulling 2A1. The rest of them remain on the consent agenda. Are there any other corrections or additions, relations to the consent agenda? I see a motion for approval? That Commissioner Mitchell, seconded by Commissioner Eane. Excuse me, on favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposing, Eane. Motion does carry consent agenda. Today consists of two a, which is approval of the order making appointments. This is a promotion in the shares department and new hire and adult probation, new hire in probate court, and a new hire in shell health. To be is approval of the intro departmental transfers, to C is approval of the payroll, and to E is approval of adding Gary Bailey, text that Denton Area Engineer to the evaluation committee for RFQ 0709 1989 engineering services for triple aid on system projects. We'll come back to items three because they're timed. for a is approval the second replat of lots one through four Marietta Village one Savannah phase nine precinct one. Morning, Bennett. Morning, Judge. Morning, commissioners. This is a replat of lots one through four Marietta Village one at Savannah. Basically they are carving out four commercial lots. And this will be the second replat of this whole development. Thank you. Are there questions from members of the corridor? Do we have a motion for approval? Yes, I know. I know. The committee is going to be free for the enterprise. Commissioner, I'm not sure you make a phone sign. Are those within the French Water Supply District or those outside of it within? They are within? Okay, great. The SC did vote on this, so, an animal's vote to approve it. You can have any citizens. No, ma'am. Either for or against. I don't have any citizens. Oh, ma'am. Either for or against. Any other questions or comments? I believe we have a motion in a second. And here in no further comments, all in favor, please say. We have a motion. I thought we had a motion. Boy, I guess I'm asleep. I'm sorry. I'll wait for a motion then. I'll move for approval. Thank you. Commissioner Collins made the motion. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Now, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to say nay. Motion does carry. I'll head of myself there. Thank you. Five A's approval of the bill report. Payments from CSCD. Community Corrections. TIP, Shares, Training Shares, Forfeiture of the IT, Interest of the VHECP, and DA4 forfeiture funds are presented for recording purposes only in Good Morning James Wells. Or in Judge Commissioners that has approval of the bill report with the five corrections, the list on separate page. So they're all deletions. They just have processing problems with correct those in process. Some next week. It's all corrections ahead. Thank you. Are the questions from members of the court? Do we have a motion for approval? Motion by Commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the seat? Motion does carry. 5B is approval of the 2010 D Denton County Resolution for Participation in the State Indigent Defense Grant Program. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Marchant. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, are there questions? Your none, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposite. Motion does carry. 6A is approval of exemption from bidding according to the provisions of section 262.024A4 of the local government code for each one in one in-foyntz of response managers. I have a motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Margin, are there questions? Hearing none, on favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, aye. Motion does carry. Six V is approval of the valuation committee's recommendation to pre-qualify the top five firms to include Tignal and Perkins. Trans systems Wilson and Company, Lockwood, Andrews and Newman, and Lima T. Ramy and Associates. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Coleman. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Other questions or comments? No, no. In favor, please say aye. Opposed, say aye. Motion is carried. We need to post item 7a. For down this email yesterday, that'll be reposted. So be no action on 7a today. 9a is approval of the agreement with Catholic Charities' diocescese for a worth for chip outreach services. Good morning, Bing. Good morning. We've had a grant to do chip outreach services for a number of years. At first it was directly with the state. In recent years they went with just a few larger contractors. And so we're now a subcontractor with the Catholic diocese 34th. And we earned 17,000 in revenue for doing the service that we would pretty much do anyway. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Mitchell. I can. Good orio. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Are there any questions? Thank you. Good to hear you. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Are there any questions? Here none. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to any? Motion is carried. And 9V is approved of a contract with DSHS for planning preparedness for each one in one influenza prevention activities. Kind of an exciting time for us. This grant is for $600,000 to help us get ready to do an H1N1 influenza campaign. I just found out last week this is going to be amended within a few weeks to add another million dollars or so to enable us to do the actual implementation so that we don't have to use existing staff to administer H1N1 vaccine, but we'll be able to contract with a staffing agency to help us do that. When will we be getting the supply of vaccination? We're looking for the vaccine around the middle of October. They've said maybe 1.1 million would get to Texas around October 1st and another 1.1 million in the middle of October. So we're hoping to have vaccine sometime around the middle of October. Is this still a series of two shots? Well, there's evidence that it may be effective with one shot. That's what I was reading. That's why I asked the question. That official decision has not been made. Okay. Dr. Bird, how are you going to administer those shots as far as who will be doing the young kids first and held early like some of us or you know there is a specified target population especially for the H1N1 vaccine that targets pregnant women and children, especially. So we'll do our best to recognize those high risk populations. We've also been in negotiations with the state and the CDC and said it's very difficult to turn people away if somebody comes and wants that vaccine. And particularly if we believe there will certainly be adequate vaccine for everybody. So hopefully we will not have to turn anyone away. But we will have signs up that will say who is the target population, who is recommended, who's the priority population. And but then if someone says to us they want that vaccine now, our plan is not to turn them away. Now what about the doctor's offices? Do you know if they will have? I just got the listing yesterday. We have over 100 physicians that have pre-registered to receive the vaccine and have signed up cumulatively for over 140,000 doses. So it looks like we're going to have good participation with the private community. You know, there was 11-year-old we're going to have good participation with the private community. You know, we know there was 11 year old, uh, girl died yesterday. Yes. I don't know if it's a flu, but does that we need to be confirmed? Uh, was, uh, H1. Was confirmed? Okay. We need to make sure that we're doing all we can to get those messages out. Uh, so I'm so thankful that we're going to have this funding to enable us to do all that we need to do. The report I heard Commissioner Mitchell was said she was 11 year old little girl and she did not have any pre-existing medical condition that contributed to her death. What's so scary is she didn't get sick till Thursday and by Monday or Sunday. I'm not sure which day she was already gone. That's pretty scary. That's pretty fast. Okay. We need a motion for a problem. We'll move. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell, seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Here, no further questions. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion is carried. Thank you. Okay, we're going to go to item 3a at this time. We have two retirees that we want to honor today. And that's 3a and 3b. Neither one of them could be with us this morning but we still want to read the resolution and honor them for their years of service. So under 3 a we have a resolution that says didn't kind of commissioners court didn't kind of Texas during regular session on the 15th day September 2009 considered the following resolution. Whereas investigator Michael Kay Hendricks, Deputy Sheriff for the Denton County Sheriff's Office assigned to the Criminal Investigation Division since September 2001 is returning on September 30, 2009 after a 32-year career in law enforcement. Whereas during all the time of said service with the Sheriff's Office, Michael Kay Hendricks is faithfully and diligently discharge the duties and obligations of the office and trusted to him, worked well with his co-workers and conducted himself in a mature and responsible manner, manner with vigilance for the safety and security of inmates and co-workers. And whereas the citizens of Denton County are grateful to Michael K. Hendrix for answering the call to service, for his commitment to duty and for the service he has rendered during his law enforcement career, in tenure with the Criminal Investigation Division of the Denton County Sheriff's Office. Therefore, be it resolved that Denton County Commissioner's Court, Denton County, Texas does hereby extend to Michael Kay Hendricks, a sincere and grateful appreciation for his dedicated service to Denton County. We congratulate him on his well earned retirement and extend our best wishes to him for continued success, happiness and good health in the years to come. The chair will move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, sitting. Motion does carry. Through due to use of service, that's incredible. He earned that retirement in. And under 3B, we have a resolution for Emilio Gonzalez, the Dyncanny Commission's Court, Dyncanny Texas, during the regular session on the 15th day of September 2009, considered the following resolution. Whereas Emilio Gonzales, hit equipment operator will be retiring on September 17th, 2009, after completing more than 28 years of exceptional service to the Dent and County Road and Bridge Department. You know, plans to enjoy his retirement years at his ranch in Montague County and spend quality time with his family. And whereas you know Gonzales was hired by Dent and County He enjoyed his retirement years at his ranch in Montague County and spent quality time with his family. And whereas Nina Gonzalez was hired by Denton County on July 16, 1981, as a crewman and quickly moved through the ranks and became one of Denton County's best heavy equipment operators. And whereas Nina Gonzalez, a devoted employee, has provided an outstanding level of valuable service to the Road and Bridge Department, utilizing his talent and expertise. You know, always to pride in his work and meet himself available to assist other crew members, as though no task was too large. And whereas during all the time, it said service with the road and bridge department, you know, has faithfully and diligently carried out his duties and obligations while maintaining a high level of excellence and conducted himself in a responsible manner with vigilance for the safety and security of the entire department. And whereas Neade Gonzalez' dedication to Denton County Road and Bridge has been appreciated and respected by all, he has been dependable, trustworthy, and a hard worker who will be greatly missed. Now therefore, be resolved in Coney Commission's Court, Denton County, Texas. Does hereby extend in the end of González a sincere grateful appreciation for his dedicated service to didn't county. We congratulate you on this well-ordred retirement and extend our best wishes to him for continued success, happiness, and good health in the years to come. I thought you might like to meet the motion. Oh, I'll move. Yeah, I'm moving. All move. Yeah, I'm. All right. Chair, I will second the motion. The motion is made by Commissioner Eads. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Motion does carry. We offer sincere congratulations and appreciation to both of these employees. It's going to be former employees. It's going to be former employees. We'll go now to item 10. 10 a is approval accepting brick drive into the county maintenance system and just for clarification, 10 a, b, c, and d, l, say precinct one that should be precinct for. Right, Bennett? Yes, ma'am. I tried to help one commissioner and hearth the other one, depending on how you look at it. All depends. This can't win sometimes, can't it? Just taking over. Banny and our precinct. All four of the roads or three of them are in the Brachrite subdivision and they all meet the criteria set up under the ex officio policy that was just approved in July. I have inspected them and so is Commissioner Eads and we're both happy with what we can do. There won't be too many issues, have to be corrected on these particular roads. So. That was going to be my next question. OK, are there any questions from members of the court? OK, I think we can take 10 A, B, C, and D and do it all in one motion if you would like. Because they're all pressing forward and then what he just described as applies to all of them. So if you'd like to make the motion. You're all go ahead and move for approval to accept a Brit drive, Karen drive, Remington court and two second system. Thank you. Motion by Commissioner E. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Are there any questions or clarification needed for anybody? They've not all in favor. Please say aye. Aye. Aye. Cinean motion is carried and In 10 E is approval of a variance request by D. R. Setback, Magnolia Phase D, multiple lots in Lentana precinct for. Thank you, Judge. Thank you, commissioners. This one's a unique variance request and that they're requesting a variance to the side yard setbacks and the county does not regulate side yard setbacks. But on this particular plant, the side yard setbacks were placed on the plant. So they're for just by process of elimination, the court does have authority over this variance. The original side yard setback approved was five feet on each side of the lots and they're requesting four and a half feet and the reason they are requesting it is the original builder that requested the five feet has pulled out of the development. So they have a new new builder coming in and the item that they want to put on these particular lots needs the additional side yard. The ESC did discuss it and review it. It was a two-to-two vote. The two people denied it because of the closeness of the properties. Whether it was five feet or four and a half feet. And have the property owners indicated air knee? We didn't have any four or against and I do have representatives of antenna here if you would like to ask them questions. Excuse us six inches on either side. Yes, sir. The five. Before and half on each side so we're expanding the footprint of the building six inches on each side our building area. The product that they want to put on these homes may or may not actually take up the entire building envelope but that is what they are requesting. Other areas in Lentana that this is going to be applying to? I mean, are we going to hear more of these variants request? At this point, the other ones that have this particular one in this particular area, I believe, have already built. These particular ones were owned by a particular developer. Are? Looks like about 25 lots in this one particular area. They have any other previous zoning, I mean to be honest with you, a five foot side yard setback is more like a patio home. Do they have any other patio home zoning? I mean, yes, five foot is their patio home. All through Lantana that's one of the agreements and also in Providence and some of the other freshwater supply districts. Those are their side yards on most of their developments. Plastic. Yes, ma'am. Sorry. Do they have any building requirements on what they can put on those side yards as far as windows or our doorways or Are there any that you're aware of? Not that I'm aware of but we the county doesn't regulate that that would be understand. Yeah, okay I don't have a big problem with this Find to find out if anybody did you know a property owner or any Anybody find out if anybody did you know a property owner or any anybody. Okay. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Eans. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Are there any other questions or comments? Any none all in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed any? Motion does carry. Thank you for being here this morning. Okay. In 10 F is approval of October 20th, 2009 at 9 E M is the date and time to conduct a public hearing to consider the reply of Magnolia edition phase D precinct four. Now that you'll approve the variance now they can request the reply for this thicker one. Sure I move for approval. Seconded by Commissioner Marchand. Any other comments? Here none on favor please say aye. Aye. Oppositing. Motion is carried. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, the A is to approve the Texas Farm and the Public Safety Crime Records Service Texas Data Exchange User Equipment Agreement. Well, that's a mouthful. Post-approved. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Marchant. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Are there questions? No, no, in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion does carry. Before we go to 13b, I'm going to go to 13a. I'm sorry, before we go to 13A, I want to go to 13V. 13V is approval of the revisions of the bylaws that didn't county. Child Protective Services Board. The members, this is on the agenda last week and I failed to get it that unlined the one small change. Do we have any other questions or comments? Commissioner Ead. Edgerton reviewing this is the change, the italics under Article 3, 8. Section 8. It was just about the... That's the only thing that's... Yeah, it was just the one. No one thinking about this. I guess it kind of goes back to this previous agenda item here Where it says no more two years in any office. I personally would prefer being no more two years in any one office, not capped at two years as being an officer. What? Say that again. Set the way. When I was reading the schist today, let me look here. The letter you wrote. The letter is item 10, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's different, but it's connected to this one. Here it is. To answer your initial question, the only change to the bond laws I'm not sure if you're under the previous item which goes to this whether I'd be in favor of having just two years as an officer. I'd rather that person would rather that be two years in consecutive in an office. Because if someone would move through a progression such as Secretary Treasurer, Vice President, President, you know they made it. That is what you meant. They could serve as President Treasurer and Vice President, but they couldn't serve as President more than two years, is that? You couldn't succeed yourself in office for two years, is that? I think you couldn't succeed yourself in office for two years. That's the way I read it. That's the way I read it. You can clarify it. Okay, because I was reading this letter here and it two years as an officer, so maybe we need to just clarify that then. You could be. Two consecutive years in one office. The clarification comes on 11th item 13 and the letter, not on the bylaws correct it could be a was it in the bylaws of where it was it cap out To be a president two years Or if you want to progress through I just want to cap out them only being there's four officer positions only right on the executive committee two years Where is that, the members? Any for? Which in the term of office? One, and you turn. I don't think changes. I saw under this item was that they have to do with the attendance. Yeah. Right. And I thought that it was sure that the letter in item 13A is consistent with what we say in the bylaws. And I didn't see that in the bylaws, but it's not in there. In term of office that's in four section seven it looks like. But should we put it under it create a section three under officers under under article four. under, create a section three under officers under, under article four. Okay. Place five, five, section seven. Create. Article five and put it with section seven. You say added two section seven? Do you think? We do that. To say that, buddy. Added two section seven, the word says election in term of office. Okay. Added to section 7 of where it says election in term of office. OK. Or do you want to put in section 7 of which article by the end? Five. I do want to, I'm sorry, just should have said that. And you want to add another Article 5, Section 7, language that says basically what we have in the memo. No officer serves more than two consecutive terms in any one office on executive board. Or something. That would be right, because then they could be president for two terms, which would one office on executive board or something. That wouldn't be right because then they could be present for two terms which would be four years. I think the terms are one year. There's a term of office that does tenure, a term of being on the board at the appointment that the office is one year. We should say they cannot succeed themselves in office. That would be one term. Let's add that to Article 5, Section 7. Specifically, the new officer shall succeed themselves in any, any position, any of the elected officer positions. All right. Yes. He's got something else. Go ahead, Commissioner. Then, just curious what the rationale was under the revision, the Article 3 section 8. Members are unable to attend a board meeting, shall contact one executive officer prior to the meeting. I'm on some boards and will you do that to get an excused absence? You'd contact them beforehand. You know, if you had a reason, a death of a family or something, you couldn't be. That would qualify as an excused absence. This isn't say that. Just as any formist meetings is to removal. I'm curious why. Why then are they calling one of the executive office prior to the meeting? Do we? Just to let them know that they aren't going to be there number one. And number two, make sure you've got a cool, have a cool, make sure you have a warm. I think that's good in the needs to stay. Well, I'll move for approval with the revisions with the one change to Article 5, Section 7. And as presented under Article 3, you know, that revision obviously noted, but yes. Second. We have a motion by Commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Marchand, are there any other comments or questions? Here none on favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion does carry now we will go to item 13a which is approval of the letter from commissioners court to the Child Protective Services Board regarding service as officers on the board Is this phrase the way you want to see commissioners? Okay, yeah, that's fine with me. Why don't we say can we add the can we insert the word consecutive between the word two and years? A few consecutive years. All right. Do we have any other questions or comments? consecutive years. Do we have any other questions or comments? Suggestions? Okay, we have a motion by commission or e. Seconded by commission or Mitchell. Do you understand? We're just adding the word consecutive between two and years. Just for clarity. Board members serving more than two and years. Just for clear. Board member serving more than two consecutive years as an officer. Does that say what we want to mean? Well just to clarify. Okay. It aims to buy loss. We basically said you couldn't succeed yourself in the same office. I think this letter is saying you can't serve more than two years as an officer. So I think we would want to say in this letter. I think we need the letter. I think we need the letter but we would say in office. That's correct. Serving more than one term in the same office. More than one term in the same office. Therefore as a current officer's term expires, please ensure that they are rotated off as an officer of the board. That sounds good. Because remember we had the confusion that the terms of officer one year, although the appointments are two years. That makes sense, Andy? Is that okay, Judge? Is that all right with you, Judge? Yes. During discussion regarding the violence on September 8th, the Court expressed the desire to have turn limits on board members serving more than... One term in the same office as an officer. Therefore, as current officers, terms expired, please ensure that they are rotated off as an officer of the board. Am I saying that correctly? Yes. On a dicks. Therefore, as current officers, term expired, please ensure that they are rotated. that they are rotated. Maybe leave off the lesson and think so too. Well, we've already got a motion. Yes, that can do you want to, I mean your motion to approval as revised. We're talking just about this office, is that right? Right. Commissioner Eats had made the motion initially and he has amended his motion for approval to approve the amended version. I'll name my second. Bruce, that also for the second is there for any further discussion or correction? I'll include the amendment, it includes the deletion of that second sentence the second is there for any further discussion or correction deletion and close the little the minimum includes the deletion of that second sentence it is correct all in favor please say aye i oppose any motion does carry thank you we'll get that all right out to them okay item thirteen c is approval and nomination of Mr. Steve Mossman of the Dent and Central of Prasal District Board of Directors. It's that time of year again to be electing new Board of Directors at the Prasal District, the first phase by law is to ask all the jurisdictions for nominations. I think we provided to everybody the allocation of vote count based on your tax levy of each jurisdiction and it's kind of interesting to see with the few years back the school districts were limited in their M&O portion of their tax rate and the freshwater supply districts are so high values so that actually the vote count has tipped in one favor of the freshwater supply districts than they have been in previous years when we've elected board members but school districts still have a high enough levy that they may in control of that board. There's no way that us, Naminating, R, Tax Assessor, that's not enough votes for him to get elected. He still got to go out and actively communicate with other jurisdictions to try and get some of their votes too. So I talked to Steve Mossman and he was certainly willing to work in this capacity. I, having served in that board myself, I think it's very beneficial to have the input of somebody who A, knows the property tax code, but I think it serves Denton County well to have them on that board and I would like to have the assurance that if we're going to nominate them to this position that come vote allocation time that we give them our roughly 600 plus votes. You will eventually be getting a list of all the different nominees from all the different jurisdictions and this always gets kind of convoluted at the end because what happens is the school districts will ensure that whoever they went to serve on the board they end up with way more votes than they need to get elected. There's 5,000 votes that are divided proportionately amongst all the jurisdictions based on tax letting. So the school districts essentially have control of three of those seats because of their tax levy but they end up allocating way more votes than their nominee needs to get elected which therefore reduces the number of votes that it takes other people to get elected. It's the top five vote getters that end up making up the board. So anyway, we've got a little light flicker there. I would like to make a motion that we do nominate Steve as our representative to the. A couple of questions. I've made a motion. Is there a second to the motion? Second. Thank you. Now for discussion, Commissioner Coleman. Is it the tax assessor collector already on the board? The tax assessor collector by law is on the board as a non-voting member that law changed a few years back. That didn't used to be the case, but they came about really and truly, thank goodness it wasn't a problem here, didn't county, but in some counties, your tax assessor and your chief of praise don't get along and they actually had instances where they wouldn't let the tax assessor dart in the doorway of the praise district. So they went so far as to change law to say that the task assessor serves on the board as a non-voting member anyway. But I was elected to the board. I served as president of the board for several years. And I just think it's good to have that knowledge there as a voting member. I mean, as an ex officio member, you just can't vote, but you can comment. Certainly. Certainly. I mean as an ex officio member you just can't vote but you can comment. Certainly. Certainly. I'm just wondering because it's such an important deal. Wouldn't it be a good idea for us to you know if we could have the tax assessor collector impossibly another county representative? I mean we don't have any votes. Well I just was wondering if we'd inquired with besides Steve if anybody else it did express interest in participating. I do want to make it absolutely clear that your board of directors has nothing to do with appraisers. Appraisals by law. Leave me I understand. I just know you do but not everybody does. I understand. I mean to me I agree with you. This is very important. Okay and I just thought it would be a good idea to if possible to have even though we only have, we could possibly get one vote, but that we could have two voices. And you know, I appreciate Mr. Mossman very much. He's, you know, very well-versed in what he does. I just thought it might be a good idea to see if we could solicit other people who might be interested. But you need to understand, remember that every jurisdiction in the county is going to have an opportunity to nominate. So if there's somebody from a city that you represent that you feel strongly about and they'd really like to get on the board, you can be helpful to them by communicating with the other cities and you're precinct to allocate their votes to that person. That's kind of how it works. I understand. I just thought we could get two voices on the board since Mr. Mossman would already be on there even as an ex officio. That's fine. There's not usually that much interest. Unfortunately. Do you have another suggestion? I don't. At this time, I didn't know what was going on. I read the agenda. I knew that what was going on But I had a time between the time I got the agenda to see if any of the people in my precinct might have an interest I know there's some community's out 423, particularly a retirement community that I received a large amount of phone Yeah, but I mean I got to think just particularly me, but other commissioners might also want to seek input for any of their constituents who might want to participate. My only concern is that this is an important area. Two voices might be better than one. The ones that you're getting telephone calls from? They're talking about their presence. But they would like probably any input. I didn't want to make sure they're not under any misconception here. I painfully take this, you know, plain to process. So. And through that discussion many times I promise. I need Mr. I'm a big supporter of Mr. Mossman. I think he does a great job. I think his office does a great job. I just think at this point since he's already on the board, it may be just a waste of our votes at this point. Okay. Mr. Reads. Judge, clarify something for me if you would. Sure. We would nominate him. Does that obligate us to give all of our votes to him? No, when we receive all the list of all the people that have been nominated by all the jurisdictions, you know, we've got 600 plus votes. You can divvy them, you know, and give some to every single person that is nominated, but essentially, you're kind of ensuring that none of them get elected that way. Let me ask you. So in subsequent, and I can't remember, as I know we've done it before, but in subsequent weeks here, we're going to have an opportunity to potentially see a list of other nominees that we could be the kingmaker for with our 558 votes and potentially top people over to their, like we've done before, looking at the numbers who they need to do. Are you suggesting we don't nominate anybody? I'm suggesting we don't commit our, I'm suggesting we don't commit our 558 to Mr. Malsmit today. Well not by nominating him we are not committing any votes at this time. We will at a later date have to make a decision how we want to split those 558 votes but I can tell you it's going to take somewhere in the neighborhood of 730 or 745 votes to get elected. So if we nominate Mr. Mossman, but then we take our 558 votes and we give some of them to this person, some of them to that person, you've essentially insured that Mr. Mossman or not get elected to the board. So I guess my point is why I put them through that exercise because if we nominate him He's gonna be going out and like I did and talking to You know I went to old point city council meeting to get their one vote You know I went to Lake Dallas city council meeting tonight to get their three You know, do you start making out if we're gonna ask him to go through that effort by nominating him, I think it is kind of unkind to say we are gonna be supporting you when the time comes. So, that's what I'm asking you. So the 558 would be kind of a starting point for him, and then he would go out and garner the support of other agencies. Right. He's gonna have to work to get the other ones. And then come time, you know, to allocate the votes. See the point. We nominate. I know what you're gonna say. Who will you nominate? We nominate more than one person. I mean, can we? You don't nominate as many as you want to, but nomination time is now. If there's a deadline on this, I think that's a good thing. I think October 15th. October 15th today is May 5th. I thought about this and thought about this and I have a change in my mind. Oh, that's right. It's the 10th or 15th. I don't rush it. I haven't changed my mind from years before. Since Mr. Mossman is automatically on this board. I don't think we, as Commissioner Coleman says, I don't think we need to nominate him to be on the board since he's already on the board. And I know you talk about him not having a vote. I served as Mayor Lewisville for seven years and I got to vote twice in the case of a time. I got to vote twice in the case of a tie, but I would ask that you check with anybody that in the city of Louisville, how many times did the council voted that was something that I wanted them to do? In other words, I had to influence them, the respect of the council, and if you've got the respect of the people, what you won't done will happen. So as Miss, I would prefer a ordinary citizen who will not ordinarily be on the board and Commissioner Coleman said, I didn't think about this, that we would have two voices. I'm not in favor of voting for Mr. Mossman. I have nothing against Mr. Mossman. I think Steve does a good job. And since he's already on the board, I don't see why we need to nominate him to be on the board again. He's already there. And as a Texas assessor, he does have a lot of influence. Anytime you've been in a job, and especially in a job that long, you've got influence and you have respect with the other people. A lot of people respect his opinion. So I don't think he has to have a vote for somebody to respect his opinion. So I thought about it and I thought about it and I'm sorry. I still am not for number and Sieve to be on this board since he already has a place on the board without our nomination. I'm sorry. I just can't do it. Anybody else? I don't mind if we repose this. I'm not ready today to give. I saw the 15th and I was thinking it was today. It's October 15th. I'm not ready today to nominate Steve. I'd like to look at the see if there's any other citizen, people who have a strong desire to do that have support that we support. If not, I don't mind nominating Steve. That's what I'm saying. All right, let's do this. There'll be no action today on 13C, but research this within your own precincts and let me know if anybody that you come up with and I would like to visit with anybody that you've advanced to have make sure they have a clear understanding of what this board does and does not do. Unfortunately sometimes people get on here and think they have authority that they don't really have. So I just want to make sure there's clear understanding. And so we'll hand that away. Okay. I think it's appropriate. I think it's terribly unkind to our tax assessor to nominate him unless we are truly going to support him because he's going to go through the same kind of effort that I'm going through. I agree with you 100%. I think if we all kind of need to get together and get our one nominee in the wall, that's true. That's why I was asking, if you come with your candidate, does that mean that I send an email to a bunch of the people who contact me on a regular basis and ask them if they're interested and then we bring another candidate and perhaps Andy brings another candidate and then we wind up with no boy. I mean with only a onboarding voice. This is such, I mean in the perception of the community this board is very important, particularly in these hard times of taxes and the economy being bad and just the fact that we could possibly have two voices. And believe me, I respect Mr. Mossman tremendously he does a great job. I just think the more input we could have would be the better. Well I guess I said in your community that these people that you know called you whatever permission to call on I would like to have an opportunity to visit with them before we actually put it on the agenda for appointment. In other commissioners may come up with somebody too, so that we have a good understanding of what they believe to be true of this board and it's not a brazil. Right. Thank you. So there will be no action on 13C at this time. Right. Thank you. So there will be no action on 13C at this time. 13D is approval of the application by the Dent County Historical Commission to the Denton. I'm sorry, to the Texas Historical Commission for a recorded Texas Historic Landmark marker for Old Walton Bridge. Approval. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Other questions or comments on this? Here none all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Any? Motion does carry 13 E as approval of the temporary relocation, the precinct for budget coordinator to the court has done the square room 309. Sure, I move for approval. I'll second. Seconded. I have, we I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I That's what it says. Okay, we have a motion. And second, in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to the name. Motion does carry. The last item is item 15 for executive session, which is consultation of attorney and potential litigation pursuant to section 551.071A of the government code. This is claim of Kevin Biel. With that, we are an executive session. The commissioners court is reconvened from executive session under item 15A. The chair will move that we take 15A, which is the potential litigation person to government code 551.0711A, the claim of Kevin Beale and assign it to the civil division of Denton County. Any seconds in motion? Second. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposite, aye. Motion does carry. With that, we've completed our business for today. We're adjourned. have a great day.