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I have nothing wrong, Mr. Wilkinson. Yes, I'd like to say congratulations to the Aspen High School skiers, boys and girl ski team. First time since 2002, both teams won the state championships in skiing, which is both a Alpine combined event and an Nordic combined event. And it was held over in Vail, and so there was Espin High School's name up on the marquee in front of the Vail School. But it was a really good effort, and there are at least seven kids in snowmast village that were on either the Alpine team or the Nordic team. And Billy, I'd like to see if it would be appropriate to have a little proclamation or some sort of resolution honoring the kids that are state champions. Okay. I guess we got to look at that. Let's see if we can do rest. Is the council agree? It's not going to move. Sounds good. Thank you, John. Good call, John. Mr. Wilkinson. Yeah, with me. Hi, that's Rice. Mr. Cooker. That's me. And I have nothing. Thank you. There is a resemblance. Moving on to item 4 update on energy smart programs and town of Samosa Village. Chatham and Dart. It's names on here. Hi. Hello. I'm Catherine Dart. I'm the Energy Smart Program Manager for the Community Office for Resource Efficiency. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for being here with us. So I just wanted to give you guys basically an update. We finished our annual report recently and I sit on the Environmental Advisory Board here in Stomass and was asked by those folks and basically my team to come up here and give a little update to you guys and let you know what's going on within the program for all of Picking County, but also what specifically has happened in Stomass and how maybe EWALT could be of help in terms of helping to promote the program in the future. So I've been in front of you guys before. I think you all pretty much know what the Energy Smart program is, but I'll give a brief little background. Energy smart is an energy efficiency program that helps basically residents and contractors make energy improvements that are simple and affordable. We do have a commercial component to the program, but it's been largely residential. As I've mentioned before, it's funded through a Department of Energy Grant. It's listimulus funding. So the goal here is to get the money out, get the money out quickly, and really help folks make definitive, quantifiable, met improvements to their homes through energy savings. So a couple of ways that we've done that is core is basically, we've set up a local energy resource center. It's at the Aspen Airport Business Center, where folks can come in and visit, talk to us, get information about basically energy efficiency programs in the valley, meet up with contractors and such. We also run an incentive program, so we give out rebates. We're developing a loan product that's specific to this market for energy efficiency. It will be specific to picking county, eel-couting, Gunnison County residents. So that's exciting. And then also we run a bunch of trainings for local contractors. You guys all got the annual report. So hopefully you had a couple minutes to look over it. But some of the compelling numbers in here probably that would be the most interest and I just like to point them out in public are there were 988 energy assessments that were completed in 2011. That's between the three counties. What page are you on? I'm sorry, I'm on page four of the report. There were 474 energy improvements that came out of that, so that basically means someone that invested in insulation or new windows, new doors, air sealing. And then if you go on to the page 6, the economic impact of this has been immense, I would say, about 100, I mean, I'm sorry, 1..1 million has been invested into the local economy in this past year. This is not money from the grant. This is actually outside of the grant. So this is local money that people have been essentially triggered to spend because of this grant. So if you think about that from a research circulation rate of basically 2.5 times, it's a little bit over $3 million, which is pretty fantastic. And we still have essentially 18 more months of this grant to go. I just want to note that Katherine's going by her page numbers, not the packet page numbers. So, oh, yes. Okay. Just want to clarify for them. So within Stomach Village, we've worked with three multi-family projects here. I invited those property managers to come here tonight. But unfortunately, they all opted to go to the parade. But we've worked with Joe Bacaro at the Enclave Bill Strelair at the Timbers and Lee Wilson at the Chamonix. The Enclave completed their project in the fall and have essentially an estimated 9% energy savings out of that. And Joe wanted you all to know that he's had no complaints about comfort or coldness or anything. So they're very happy with the project, basically. They did air sealing. And then, Germany and the Timbers are both looking into a variety of different projects. I think it's Germany. They need new boilers and such. Could you explain what they did at the enclave? Sure. So we did a full energy assessment at the enclave. Charlie Eckert with Aspen Thermo completed that project. And while he was completing the energy, after he completed the energy assessment, he basically went into every single unit and did air ceiling. So basically filling in gap for air was getting in. And he also did a change out of light bulbs, a change out of faucet, doing basically new faucet aerators, and then Gary Lightell of Lightell Electric installed new programable thermostats in all of those units. So it was a fairly affordable project. I think the whole all-in, it was about $9,000, and I believe the enclave paid about 2000 of that. So a great project for them. We'd like to see them continue to move forward on other projects as well, but that was a great first start. And then from a single family standpoint, I'm not sure exactly how many folks in Stomas have participated by I think it's around 75, which is great. We did pick and county completed around 500 assessments last year in 2011. So really what I'm here to talk with you guys about is, one, to give you an update, to let you know the successes of the programs, but really how maybe into the future the town can specifically help either market the program or get this out to your residents because as I said before, this is a short time deal and we would love to see all the town residents be able to take advantage of this. I know you guys specifically have quite a few multi-family projects, you know, owner occupied units that are like seasons four, but then also of course places like the timbers where they're fractionaly owned. I have a suggestion for you. Sure. The, as you probably don't know, the second homeowner's association of SNOMAS is coming, starting to come out with a newsletter. First newsletter, I think is going to be out fairly soon. But they have 700, 800 email of people who live in snowmats and perhaps you could talk to them about some sort of endorsement, the next newsletter that comes out. That would be great. Is that a quarterly newsletter monthly? Well, they literally just started it. next newsletter that comes out. That would be great. Is that a quarterly newsletter monthly? Well, they're literally just started. Okay. I talked to the editor and the first one is coming out fairly shortly with a discount from I think the edge. Okay. Great. I've gotten one that I've seen a draft of it and then the next one will be coming out. They'll be working on completing it in early June. Okay. That's great, Suggeston. Thank you. You mentioned this short term nature of the current program. That's relative to the incentives that are available right now. Yes. And the window on that is. So it's a bit, basically limited time, well it's not limited time, it's first come first serve. So from a multi-family standpoint, the rebate right now is essentially $400 a unit, up to $25,000, or 20% of the project cost. So it's a substantial incentive, really. But that money is again only on the table for as long as it's available so we're trying to get people just up about it as quickly as possible. It's first come first served first. Yeah. And we've done something in our employee housing stock. Yeah we have. Well we've done the audits but we need to do the uptake on implementing the projects. So we should prioritize that pretty strongly, I think, to get that done in the next couple of months, while the insiders are available. This is my view. The public sector can take that. This is money that would be available to the town. Yep, for your affordable housing employee housing. Joe, for example, does have a list. We've implemented a number of things. And I think there's still things on that list. Mm-hmm. Good. Make sure we work with Core on that. Okay? That would be great. Um, I was off as original assessments, but I know that there are still things to do. Yeah, I'm going to use used to living one of those units. I could feel a nice cool winter air coming in under the door. And you put the towels under there and you put the foam in and all that stuff in my own unit. I lived up on top of Lord. We still spent quite a bit of money and electrical energy costs. Yes. Yes. Good. Energy costs. Yes, yes. Good. Can we pass on some contact information that might be useful in terms of the Snomass Lodging Association? Seems like we have a huge inventory of aging multifamily properties that would be perfect for this program. It's just a matter of letting them know that it's out there. And going back to our part-time homeowners, they just updated that list, or I think we've collectively updated that list of, that's another information source, and Leslie has been updating that for our part-time homeowners. Okay, that'd be great. Yep, and then I was also thinking about speaking with Leslie about essentially sending something out through your newsletter or on your website. Good, good. Yeah, website would be great. We do get a lot of people who tell me they check that out from time to time. Good information like this would be a nice asset to include. Any other questions for John. Here I have a couple of you are saying the funding is running out. Is that possibly going to be renewed? Do you think that's a one time only shot? Well stimulus funding. So that type of funding is the one time only shot. The original grant was for the 4.9 and so that 4.9 million. So it was a part of that, the RF funding. But I think that the ultimate goal of the program basically is to set this up as kind of a self-disstanding model. So it won't have the same sort of rebates available, but the loan fund, which is basically about a million dollars pot of money, will continue to exist while after the grant period is over. And then also there's a full data management platform that's actually a pretty cool very useful tool for homeowners and utilities and that will still continue to take us afterwards. So for the individual homeowner wanted to approach this program, how would they do it? So they can go to our website at energysmartcolorado.com or they can call our office 925-9775 or they can stop on. But basically all they do is they thought in enrollment form and that basically Naples them to be able to access rebates and of course get access to just a free energy advisor They can go ahead and do an energy assessment if they'd like We don't require it although we strongly encourage energy assessments because it's basically It'd be like going to the doctor without a physical, unless you know exactly what's going on and you don't get the checkup, then you may not know what to fix. What are those generally cost for us, or your family home? So through the program, it costs $50. And that is basically through partnerships with the utility companies and through the grant and how that subsidized. It's basically about a $400 value that's offered for $50 to home workers. It's a great deal. And so they come up with a list of things you can do like insulation or change out light bulbs and is there any funding available to help offset some of those changes?, so the energy assessment basically goes through the house and it it not only it does the provide kind of a Map for energy improvements, but more importantly It tells you whether or not your house is actually safe to live in so they'll do combustion safety and testing Testing which is key and loss to radon testing but which is key and we'll also do rate on testing. But once that energy assessment is completed, the analyst will go ahead and put in some kind of, we call them quick fix items. So light bulbs, program will thermostats, weather stripping on doors, just right there at the time of the assessment for free. And then we have rebates available for any actual improvements after that. So our existing rebates is basically a $200 rebate up to 20% of the project cost. And then we have kind of a, we call it the rockstar rebate. But that's basically $1,000 if you reduce your energies by 20%. So. And is that working pretty well? Are you finding these programs, people, are able to reduce their energy consumption? Yes, absolutely. An installation project on, I'm sure there's several home, many homes in Stomas, that could use some substantial installation in air-stealing projects done. But, you know, we'll see anything from 15%, 10%, 15% upwards to 40%, 45% and energy reduction, just from basically an attic insulation project in Samaritany. So of course, it depends on where you're coming from. It's all relative, how terrible your house is, but most homes can save about 20% on their energy goals. It's a very good. It seems like something we should be cross-promoting through our building department as well. I mean, anytime people are coming, utilizing the services of the building department seems like a natural tie-in to give some information and push them towards resources to improve their home energy efficiency. So you have some collateral? Yes. Lots of collateral. I mean, not that we want to generate a lot of paper, but- No, no, no, no. But all we get is already printed so I can give it. No, I like to see a link on our website so you could access this information because I think a lot of people in the Snowmass Village are unaware that you have this available and for $50. I mean, and this is a great, I had Charlie Eckert do one on my house about three or four years ago. And I tried to do everything that he suggested, but I ran into the contact fluorescent dimmables. And they don't work very well. And they burn out quickly and they're expensive. What do you see on the horizon for new emerging technologies that might be helpful down the road? Well, CFL has come a long way in the past couple of years, but one of the biggest problems is that if you don't leave a CFL on for about 30 to 40 minutes when you first screw it in, it will burden out really quickly. It needs kind of a break in period. And unfortunately when they were first rolled out, that was never clearly explained. It was a small print. It was in small print and I think they've really done, it's been in justice to the technology, but the dimmables now, I mean, they're great. Fact. Gary Lytale who sits on the environmental advisory board with me and is the snowmaster resident, could give you a dissertation on lighting if you would like it, but you know, and how great all of the different options are. But of course, there's LEDs. That's kind of the newest of the technologies that are out there. Okay. Any other questions on the Fred? One question Katherine I've got being snowmass villages a little bit of a hybrid or not specifically you know I don't think we're really as involved in core directly because we have our own group. I think from time to time that being on our own little path, we don't have quite the efficiencies. It seems like you guys are doing very well helping us from the core perspective being you're involved in our EAB board. Any thoughts about that? Should the council, should the community be looking at a change of our system to where we maybe become more involved in core than we are? Do we get more bang for the buck? How we're doing it, using our own money and not contributing to the larger deal? Because I've always been concerned that we're duplicating things that you guys have been doing. Is that smart? Well, I mean, I think there's a couple of different questions there. And the EAB is a local residential, well, it's basically, you know, local residents on this board in the town of St. Mast. Carbondale has the same thing, so it's plus all, so does the Aspen. I think it's a great resource for getting your local citizens engaged in this issue and interested in getting their neighbors colleagues, you know, a fellow businesses involved in it. So from that standpoint, the EAB is great and I think it's wonderful to have a court representative on the EAB precisely for the reason that you mentioned and that, you know, for me, I sit on the EAB right now, and this is my full-time job, so I can come to the EAB meetings and give updates on what else is going on with the Valley and what else is going on specifically with Ampick and County and kind of less and flurred things of that nature. From the re-op perspective, you know, I think that this has been a question since the beginning. I definitely think that there's efficiencies in going in with Aspenpickin, but that means that they kind of have the money all goes into one full pot. And the town of Stomas has to make the decision whether or not they want their re-op code to have the same sort of stipulations as the REMP code has and I don't know if that that question has been necessarily answered by this council or maybe it has been but maybe we're a little more conservative of taking the approach at the county and the city of Dunn. I think that's one of the things that some of our people have said to us. Well, I think the city and the county had the luxury of starting their program in a good construction time. And so, you know, when the program was started in 2000, it had eight plus years before the recession hit and things slowed down. And I think the town you know well I was in here as part of the re-op discussions last year the town didn't have that luxury but I don't think that's a reason to you know throw out the baby with the bathwater you just got a hold strong and keep moving forward but you know currently the town does sit on course board and is invariant involved in all the things that core does And I think that's a great asset So I think you all have set it up quite well, but good Might be a bigger discussion any other questions we want to ask of Catherine or we have a Council member who's also involved in you know some of those systems and Understanding what's going on there. Yeah, I mean as you all know, I'm an employee at core and and Fred sits on the core board as the town's representatives, so we're all Deep really involved in the organization, you know to your question about the redundancy I think that really only goes to the re-op question. I think that's, you know, to your question about the redundancy. I think that really only goes to the re-op question. I think that's what we were talking about. And I think, you know, my position on that has always been the risks of the town is very low in that regard. If we were to integrate into that program, you know, whether the exact regulations align or not, if we wanted to pool the funds that are generated out of re-op into that bigger pool, I think that shows regional partnerships and participation, and probably in the long run is a greater benefit to the town in terms of the other communities that are involved being interested in partnering with the town on those kinds of things. To date, REAP hasn't generated much in the way of revenue and so it hasn't really been much of an administrative burden on the town. Hopefully as building rebounds and things like that, That'll become something we want to talk about again. It's also fair to kind of remind ourselves that we've benefited from the larger reop fund. I think it was the neighborhood of around 90,000 that we received from Rant. For example. Oh, from Rant. Yeah. Yeah, and town also had a grant last year for new close washers and a solar thermal system and your affordable housing complex. And then this isn't part of the town, but the Little Red School House received a grant this year for new windows. They really need it for $5,000. They've very rich. And in general, all of the rebates that are available to citizens, residents, businesses, within snowmast, all come out of that fund as well. So. I mean, I think, really, to your point, just continuing to push the EAB to be really integrated into the rest of the valley's efforts, I think, as something the council could do and could really see a lot of merit out of that. We've recently elected Valerie Dott to sit on the Agua, which is Aspen Global Warming Alliance Group, and that's basically a group of folks from Raffta to RMI, to this key company, to Aspen and Kora, of course, that are just basically talking about an environmental initiatives in the valley. So in that respect, I think that the town is moving in the right direction for making some of these things a little bit more front and center. Look. Thank you very much. Yep. Thank you. Thanks, Katherine. Thanks, Katherine. And I actually have a full annual report. I was gonna leave it here with you all. It has more pictures and all sorts of other stuff. I just didn't want to bombard you. We appreciate the saving the tree. Yes, but I will leave that with you Ross. We can digitally forward that to you as well. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. And maybe you know that can be something we can digitally you that to you as well. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you And maybe you know, that's can be something we can digitally you know Copy and put on our website also to help yeah, I'm sure we can get that by going to the core website and reading it there Very good. Thank you Moving on I think we have mr. Dresser up. We have a resolution. Actually, this is Russ. Number 15, series 2012 construction management. At the last council meeting, we reviewed a section of the building code related construction management that it allows the town to really set a schedule for special events. So it's a proactive notice to the construction community that of when we have known special events and this basically prevents noise generating construction activity and right away activity in certain areas from occurring on days and times of those events. So resolution 15 is, it's out of schedule for those known events and also limits construction activity on roads. It's been kind of a non-issue in the last several years since we haven't had any. So with some activity in the mall You expressed an interest For this coming to you again, there's a deadline for this if we want to do a resolution like this We have to do it prior to March 1st of each year. Okay What are the Council's feelings? We may have read Markies' comments. She's not here tonight but she had said something about adding Anderson Ranch's auction timeframe to the schedule of possible, along with the other events. Yes. For us, yes. If you talk to the silvertry about this, so they could be, because they're going to be the big construction this summer. This would be a condition, whether we did this or not, this would be a condition within their specific construction management plan anyway. So we've already told them that they couldn't do anything to interfere with any of our events anyway. That would be an explicit. A lot of that stuff is up at the ball. And they're going to be very aware. And in tagging on Fred's comment, I'm concerned about what they might be erecting to put around the construction site. Large scale fencing, any kind of construction netting. Well, it's really interior work, John. So it's not like there's a lot of exterior impacts. And we don't. Those are getting redone. Okay. Bulls. But as long as we keep that on the radar, that because these events are on Fannie Hill, you know we don't want a two-story construction fence adjacent to Fannie Hill if we can avoid it and so but that's going to be a discussion I'm is that going to be coming to us their construction management plan so I guess that's a word to staff to keep an eye open for that but we don't have I mean just so you we, they're in the process of picking a general contract or a general contract doors. Once that's picked, then they will submit a specific construction management plan to staff that would be reviewed against the standards in the code. Okay? Okay, so this is a list of known events. What happens when you have a non-known event? Is it something that you do on a case-by-case basis? The code actually anticipates that and it essentially says the chief building official with a seven-day notice can identify and put other events out there that a contractor would have to avoid conflicts with. Because that's a good catch on the Anderson Ranch Art. Would you, we have a date for that? No, we didn't have a date for that. I didn't see that. But, is this December? Is it? Are you talking about the one in the winter time? Summer time. The big art option they have in the summer. Yeah, it's usually in August. Yeah. If you should have a Saturday of memory serves. But yeah, I think it's something that you know, we for road construction that kind of stuff because it relates to parking now. August 31st. So can we amend this by adding August 31st? Yeah, we would just be. Well, it did. But in section four. Yeah, actually notes it's the same day as the Jazz Labor Day. But I think having covered. So if it's covered. It has covered. Yeah, then it's covered. I have a correction also on line 93. That should be August 21st 2012. That's a good catch. 21st, no, 20 second. Yes, sir. And okay. Is that the confirmed date for the right for the cure? Yeah, we got that. for the right for the cure. Yeah, we got that. I got that for marketing. So that's on the schedule or the calendar. Are there any other construction projects, significant construction projects on the radar other than where are they from? Not aware of anything else. Yeah. Actually, there is a correction to today because according to the common website It's Saturday August 18th 2012 Okay, well that's a date that they didn't give us so You're pretty you're looking at their website. Yeah, thank you John So those are two got two corrections one to the 18th and then on line 93. Okay. Are these restrictions something as you said. In the silvertry project approval already they know they're going to have to deal with some of these restrictions. Yeah, for example, we told them right up front anything dealing any event in the wall or anything on Fannie Hill, they're going to have to avoid conflicts with that. There's a greater philosophical question to be asked if you guys want to ask yourselves. What is that? What is that? Do you really want to promote all your special events at the expense of construction progress? In that philosophical decision in 2007, 2008, when this was created, we clearly were saying we had an enormous amount of construction activity and so events came first and I mean that was pretty clear in the ordinance that the construction shall not impact our special events or essentially it will be minimized. I'm still there with my opinion I think that is absolutely important. We might just suggest, you know, in the future, this might be a philosophical discussion. You take a look at this, see if it still makes sense, give it where we are. Well, I think that, you know, what I've been seeing over the past few years, a lot of the impacts or trucks and, you know, roadway impacts, road construction, road repairs, where you have a Porsche club coming to town and you want to make sure that we're not, but be gravel out in the road two days before they show up. Let's wait till after they show up. Well, it's that as well as if you're trying to get people in here for an event, you don't want a monumental concrete pour going on at one of your projects so that the people can't even get up the road because there's so many concrete trucks, but I just say blanket, you know, every single event takes precedence over ongoing construction. That's the philosophical question. John answered it. Yeah, and I'm just, I'm not in John's camp, totally. I think we have to watch out for it and manage it with, with in our departments. Just technology change we made in this resolution compared to the only other one we did in 2008 is in 2008 It talked about any activity on any road in town This resolution only focuses on our major arteries Yeah, I think that was appropriate there And I seem to recall in the ordinance that there was provisions to allow the time management grant waivers or something to accommodate Unforeseen like a waterline break Mm-hmm an example so we got to fix it and it did allow Some administrative flexibility Correct me if I'm wrong, but the major construction that's gonna go go on to summer is up at the silvery and it's going to be internal, it means there's not going to be big concrete pores or, you know, new trusses coming up or things like that. So it seems to me that ought to be pretty manageable. I mean, they ought to be able to accommodate, certainly they ought to be able to accommodate all the events on the mall. But you know Fred, I guess some of the concerns I have is that you may be having a staging of a lot of construction material being delivered, say Thursday afternoon they may close down, they may desire to close down a parking lot or something. And so you know, those are the kind of things that... But I guess if they'd known in advance, that's why I brought this up to Paris-Lie. I mean, if they know in advance, you know, this Thursday there's gonna be a concert, so if you're gonna have, you know, large amount of material to deliver, get them delivered Wednesday or get them delivered Friday. And that's why we try to pass this resolution in early March, so that they have all that notice at a time. As much as we can. It's, it's, it's lot of what you just, if you micromanage the construction too much, it might not happen as quickly. In a timeframe that you expect. Right. Because it may be that a purveyor, their truck's coming through here, and they're gonna deliver Thursday afternoon, or they're not coming back for a month. Specialized interior kind of stuff can be on schedules like that. I'm just throwing the question out there and hoping that you will consider it when the time is appropriate. And well, I think by virtue of the fact we're passing this in February that we give anybody planning those kind of things adequate notice. So I move to approve resolution. What is this? 15th series of 2012 with the corrections. Second by Jason. Any further discussion? I think John's professor is correct that we know we probably do need to have a little more philosophical. I mean, I'll be appropriate for this season. Right. It's just a question that you have to be aware of that when this ordinance was considered and approved, we were in quite a different world. Yes, we were. Kate, Hallows and Famers of Ordnance Resolution 15. Please signify by saying aye. Aye. And I was opposed. And this was the second reading. 15 please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. And I was opposed. And this was the second reading. No, it's a resolution. I just want to thank you. Okay. Next, we have the Mr. Dresser for the back to top of the page. Rebuild it. Time to get a faster eye-pad. or go back to top of the page, rebuild it, time to get a faster eye-bad. Second reading award is two, series of 2012 repealing provisions of chapter eight. Mr. Dresser's name. This is a second reading. Is there a motion to approve this? So moved. Is there a this is a second reading? Is there a motion to approve this? So moved. Is there a second? Second. Second by John Wilkinson. Roll call. This is Roll call. Any other discussion questions? Let's move right on with both. Mayor Boynall? Yes. Wilkinson? Yes. Butler? Paper? Yes. Cooker? Yes. Yes, yes Butler Hayber yes Yes Thank you. I remember seven managers report. Oh Again, just want to remind you that we will have a council retreat and the purpose behind this is to really create a strategic plan for the next year to two years. And that'll be next Monday from 12 to 5 at the Eagle County Elge Bell Community Center. I want to introduce Brad Stevenson and ask Brad to come up to the microphone and introduce himself. Brad is, he's been working with us at a staff level, been doing some leadership development training with us and had a very good experience with Brad and have invited Brad to facilitate this discussion with you next Monday. And maybe Brad, you wanna just kind of give a few highlights of how you would be approaching this from a facilitation standpoint. Sure, sounds good, thanks. Can everybody hear me? Yes, we can. All right, if they can't, Rhonda, we'll tell you. Okay. Little closer. Yeah, because maybe the TV people can't hear you, there you go. Thank you. Okay. So thank you Russ and thanks for the opportunity to work with Council. Next Monday will be as Russ said, doing a strategic planning process and you'll be receiving from Russ a memo and a packet of information that contains a lot of the what I call the strategic landscape and background information that we should be considering when we go into this process. At a high level, I mean, you've all gone through strategic playing processes before. And our focus will be to try and create kind of a, what I call a logic bridge from the highest level vision of what we stand for and who we are as a town. And then follow a path of logic to get us down to very specific, measurable, timely, actionable goals that will provide guidance for the next one to two years about where we're really focused in order to achieve and best support that vision of who we are as a town. So a typical strategic playing process take a minimum of two days. It's a typically a long process to go from that 50,000 foot level of this biggest picture vision down to tactically what actions and initiatives are we taking to execute and best reach that vision. In this case, and the reason I'm emphasizing this is we have a very short amount of time relative to what a typical strategic playing process would be. And that puts the onus on us all to come extraordinarily well prepared. So I would emphasize that the information to Russ and his staff's credit, they've put together a wonderful packet of information with some very strong leadership and thought leadership in that vision process all extrapolated from the comprehensive plan. And what I would ask of council and mayor that when we come to that meeting that we've really spent a lot of time understanding the comp plan reviewing those materials there's a survey as well as staff notes the more grounded we are and the more ready we are to take off running from that solid foundation that that Russ is providing us the more likely we'll be able to achieve a lot, which is developing goals in four key areas of governance within that short timeframe that we have. So, a couple things in your package, just to acknowledge, there's one chapter of the comp plan that, you know, it talks about vision. It's very much based in a lot of community input. So we're hoping to simply use this high-level strategic planning that has occurred within the community. And then have you kind of looking at the environment that we're in and articulate, what do you think are the specific goals? Staff has given you a perspective from our seats in terms of potential goals and actions. A lot of the actions you will see kind of result from previous discussions we've had over the last year, whether it's the capital improvement process that we've talked about or other actions, but we've simply tried to link them to kind of a higher purpose in some suggested goals. So again, the comp plan is a great tool. The survey is something that we fielded. We just closed yesterday at noon. A little over 200 people did respond to it. Been debating whether that's statistically significant. I don't know if it is at the end of the day, but I think it's a good, probably is a good pulse of different thoughts, ideas within the community. Didn't see any real fundamental surprises in it, but I would encourage in terms of the survey from the town, did you pick up any particular common themes? Well, there are a couple of that I was reading. You know, there's no surprise. There was interest in, you know, what can we do in base village? And we can certainly chat about that. We talked about services and again, some of the traditionally strong services are still traditionally strong services such as transportation, the police department public safety. We'll talk about the development review process that came out in the mix. out in the mix. So again, I don't, there was at the top of the projects list and this links very nicely to kind of the strategic framework. One of the most important capital projects people responded to were the safety of our intersections, particularly. I assume they were talking about wood, and brush creek and algae. And walkways throughout the community, and sidewalks and number of things. Trails. The final question in the survey was an open-ended question, and so that was an opportunity for people to really say whatever they wanted to say, and I'd encourage you to look at that narrative too. What more question, Ross, is there any more intelligence on base village? Yes, I think would want to share that with you at the retreat, but I've had the chance to get an update from the banks. And John and I could share with you where we are. And it's different than where we were last year. It's different, say it. Sorry. It's different in the context that we're no longer dealing with a foreclosure. We're now dealing with an owner. But there's nothing that finalized. They didn't sell it to any one company yet. So, nothing's risen to the top of the cream. But I think that'll lead to an important strategic decision for you. Yes. But I met with Brad and Russ last Friday and you know recognizing the time constraints that we have put upon ourselves. I asked for Brad to come forward today and just introduce himself and just to say how important it is because he's usually like he said does this in a two-day time frame and we've set up noon till five on Monday. I might just add Brad is a resident of Snowmass Village. We were kind of fortunate to find him. He spends a lot of his time traveling all over the place. His type of work. And he has a couple of young daughters and is trying to spend some more time here in Snowmass in his home. So. To find him. So, anything else Brad that? No. I just, at the retreat, I'll give a little further introduction in terms of our firm and professional background and really I just wanted to say hello, introduce myself. Myself give you all a big picture of what we're trying to accomplish. Make sure that I'll hand out my cards so you've got my contact information between now and Monday if you should have any questions or want to make contact for any reason. And again, reinforce our focus is going to be on goals that day. So really coming in and being ready to run from the perspective of our vision, I think you've all seen the chart or received the big just dot. Okay, so you've just received the chart is a very important part of it that's going to show, you know, our aspiration statement, the four key pillars of governance that we're adopting is primary areas for decisions and goals, and then the specific descriptions of success below that. So we'll be starting our session with the sort of validation or assumption of that vision, and then the meat of what we'll be doing is focusing on the specific goals and actions that support that vision. And so if anybody has any thoughts or questions that they'd like to wrap Brad with, please do so before meeting. Like you said, I'll send out his GDS card and email column, but we're expecting one to be very good day. And John. I do have a question though. I'm just looking at the agenda right now and there's an ordinance that we're going to be voting on. Why are we doing official town business during a retreat? Because it's an official town meeting. Well, I realize that but we normally wouldn't do this in there's there's a situation that's come to our attention that requires That second reading being complied with I mean completed by the beginning of March to Get this vacation of a street that's already been done in other parts of the street It was attempted in 1970 by the county and not completed. And we're in a situation where we're facilitating a sale of real estate. This is a little house cleaning the kind of the second reading would be at a regular meeting here. March 5th. So we're hoping it's the ball rolling. Accommodate. Real estate transaction. regular meeting here. So we're hoping it's the ball rolling accommodate. Real estate transaction. Jason, did you have a question? Oh, it's just going to ask, is there hope we're not having any other staff or department heads come on next Monday? That's our understanding that you would like it to keep it simple. So it's you and John and I To facilitate kind of their perspective. I asked each department to kind of share what went well What were challenges from the previous year and then kind of what they see as issues and Kind of let them do it in their own words really didn't edit that and you also have that in your packet And if we were going to be doing the retreat here in this chamber, we'd have more opportunity, I believe, to have staff here. But to bring them down to El Jabel, for, you know, I'd seen them sitting there for hours and hours waiting. So I'd rather just keep them to do what they put together for us. What was it? Just need a lot of them there. Okay. Just one, yeah, good question. There's a lot. But that was an idea. It's all we had. Thank you. Brad, thanks for coming. My pleasure. Thank you for the invite. I did want to just acknowledge the EOTC process, subcommittee process is still moving forward. And I believe John and Bill, did you get an email about a change? Yeah, I sent that back to you. I guess next Wednesday is the 11 to 1. 11 to 1. And that's getting, I mean, it's gonna be interesting and MacArland did not participate in the first meeting and based on his communication through his staff. He's going to have some strong opinions coming into the next meeting. So it's something you may want to chat about too Monday. Okay. All right. Next thing on the agenda item is the agenda. Yep, future agendas. We just went through agenda for next Monday. March 5th, a couple things are changing. You see a, this is a follow-up from the CIP, but a rodeo arena item. And this has got pushed back to the second meeting in March. That will be, again, a little heads up of how you want to frame that scope of work in a little budgetary discussion of what that would cost. What I really want to give you heads up on is Jim Horowitz's request of time for you, with you, to give you an update on this year's JS event. I believe he will also ask you for an offset of the direct charges, the town charges for that event for police, public works. That was in the neighborhood of $45 to $50,000. charges for that event for police, public works. That was in the neighborhood of $45 to $50,000. So we'll give you our two cents. Kind of what I would tell you now is, even if you jumped for joy about granting his request, I would still suggest you may be wait till a financial update, get an overview of where we stand financially before considering this or any other funding request. wait till a financial update get an overview of where we stand financially before considering this or any other funding request. Well, do we get any financial information from him? I've asked him to be prepared to do that. Well, if he's going to ask us for money, I'm going to ask him for financial statements. I will reiterate that. Please do. Okay. So again, you could also tell him, don't have a schedule the time but right now I'm so this is also a question. Yeah, I think it's important to go ahead and have him come and talk to us And is there is there an opportunity to apply the marketing board formula for Absolutely that's something we would share with you is we do have for that weekend, including for this last year's event, what was occupancy and what was maybe an estimated revenue from that same methodology you discussed about. Good. Discussed with Mark. Russ? Yes sir. Tell me who the roaring for watershed plan is, who's presenting this plan? I assume it's the roaring for watershed. Yes, it's a watershed plan that, you might be able to articulate. What's the root I water in power authority? Which is the... We participate. Yeah, we participate as a member of that board. It's a board comprised of all the different jurisdictions along the Rowing Fork watershed. So basalt, aspen, snowmast. So they're probably... They're public entities. It's a, what is the Rwapa? It's a, I don't even know what the... It's basically the... It's basically the upper Broinfort Valley. Most of the jurisdictions, I believe all the jurisdictions participate on this board with you? Yeah, I assume, I mean, it's an authority, I guess. Rudy, I water and power authority. So it's just special district kind of authority, I guess. You've also had some good questions about, should we? And yeah, I think it'll be an interesting conversation. I've been sitting on the board as the snowmast village for the last year. And it's a board that originally was founded to deal with issues involving Rueda Reservoir. And they continue to do that, although that's a Bureau of Reclamation Facility, Rwapa kind of deals with a lot of the day-to-day management of that facility and how releases, water releases from that dam affect the watershed. Thank you. So very important to the town, the very important to other further downstream communities. We don't rely on that resource for any of our water and we don't derive any benefit from the power that's generated off the hydroelectric facilities there. So from time to time, does get questioned as our need to be in that organization so yeah I mean primarily again the benefit being regional partnership regional involvement and to the degree that we derive benefit from recreational waters and healthy ecosystems along the roaring fork and other tributaries involved with that I guess as far as recreation and tourism does. On the water districts presentation that you just received gave you a perspective from the water district on water quantity issues which this plan also said. But if I understand it we get our water from snowmess creek and wherever, but we don't get any water from root high or... Right, but the watershed plan thinks more globally as a watershed, so it does involve snowmess creek and east snowmess creek and it does contemplate, you know, best management practices and kind of how we should be stewards of that resource, I guess. Well, there was a big component on brush Creek. I believe that we participated in study. We released it. You did a riparian project on brush Creek. Right. So, thank you. Good. Next item is item number nine. Approval of meeting minutes for three meetings, December 5th, December 7th, and December 12th. Sure, baby. One regular meeting and two special meetings. Motion to approve for December 5th, 2011. So moved. It's Fred, second by. Second. Now I'll do Mr. Wilkinson. Discussions, edits, changes. I will pass it on to the clerk. Thank you, sir. All in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Moving on to December 7th. Special meeting. Motion to approve those. Minutes. So moved. John Wilkinson, seconded by Fred Cooker. Edits will be sent along by Mr. Wilkinson again. Actually, I do have a question because I did arrive late in the meeting at 120, but at line 12 it says that I was present at roll call. Does that matter? Because I was here from mostly meeting, but I didn't show up till later. Does it say when you... Yeah, line 58. Okay, then it reflects that because you were there to vote so you have to be in the roll call So as long as it reflects in a minute what time you actually got there. Okay. That's what I was wondering. Thank you All those in favor please send a voice in line. All right. Are you posed? Moving on to December 12th special meeting. Is there a motion to prove? Jason second by Fred Cooker Any questions? All those in favor please signify the saying aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Very good. Moving on to Council comments, committee reports and calendars. Mr. Cooker. Nothing. Just a welcome, Senator. Mr. Cooker. Nothing. Mr. Wilkinson. Well, Billy and I did meet with the subcommittee of the EOTC in Aspen. And I think we're going to come to some sort of resolution, but it will be interesting to see how we get there. Maintaining the free service. That was what I got out of that meeting is that I think there's a lot of consensus that we need to keep the service free as a matter now of how do you fund it? Yeah, and I think that that's John's right. This is going to lead to a broader discussion at some point among our council. I think John and I have a few ideas, but we'll get through this meeting and then probably try to schedule a Discussion after that for counsel Yeah, before we go to the march. What is it you go to the march? 22nd. Yeah, EOTC meeting right and you'll be there Fred. Yep. Good. So there'll be a general update on the march Meeting as well. Yeah, so you know the next council meeting. Yeah you we would have after. 19th. Well you may want to chat about this. This might come up as part of your strategic discussion next Monday. You certainly want to have a discussion to bring your colleagues up to speed after this next subcommittee, which will be next Wednesday. So you know the fifth could be a good opportunity to bring everybody up to speed and make sure you know how you want to go into the 22nd. And that's probably yeah, time for him to have that discussion. Okay. Coming up is the disabled American vets. Coming up at the end of March, from March 25th to the 30th. Towns sending out a letter. If they haven't already, it should be pretty soon. Looking for donations. That would be a fantastic thing for our community to step up a little more than we did last year. And that was always tight. But this is one of those events and groups that I think when you get involved and you see what's going on it really is a life changing program for a number of folks. And so please help with that request for funding in the community. And we have Marty Gardenite, so I have nothing else. Mr. Heyward. I guess I'll just mention anybody that's not entertaining themselves at the EOTC meeting on March 22nd. The Aspen Historical Society is posting a big event around the IceH Discovery here at the conference center. They'll have the lead scientists and several folks from Denver Museum here to give a big talk and it's the release of a book that was just published chronicling the dig. a book that was just published, chronicling the dig, and so that'll be available. Do you have the idea of time of that? I think it's a 530 event. Oh, it's going to be a quick EOTC meeting so we can run over there afterwards. Ha-ha. Ha-ha. Next item, item 11, is adjournment. Is there a motion? Fred Cooker, second by Jason Haber, all those in favor? Aye, any opposed? Who might have lose to adjourned? What was your deal? She guessed 530, I guess 545. Oh, that's what. you I'm going to do it. you Thank you.