you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom. I'm going to have to go to the bathroom Thank you. G.K. Call the order. Good morning. Welcome to today's meeting. If you wish to address the board regarding an item listed on this agenda, please complete a registration form at the rear of the room and place it in the speaker request box located and the dias prior to consideration of the item. We ask the speakers limit their comments to seven minutes and that large groups name a spokesman whenever possible. Thank you for your interest in participating in city government and those watching us on television this morning. Thank you for your interest in participating in city government and those watching us on television this morning. Thank you for taking the time. Roll call please. Alternate member Dupont. Vice Chair Fredrickson. Member Haji. Here. Member McKayne. Here. Member Orion. and Chair Ruby. President. We just have a skinny corn this morning. Just me. Just me. It says good. Pleasure allegiance. Do you want me to give you a few? What allegiance do you apply on the United States of America, and through the Republic of Georgia's name, one nation under God, individual, and liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Are there any changes to our agenda this morning, staff? Yes, sir. We will be continuing item 7B, which is a resolution for the purpose of determining petition 24-DRB 18 relating to preliminary design review of a new Rolls Royce car dealership on property owned by TT of Naples Inc. and located at 710 9th Street North. be continued to the August 28th meeting of the Designary Board. So we will not be hearing that item today for anyone that may be here to wish to speak on that. Okay. Very good. Any other discussion on that? If not, we'll move on. Any other changes to the agenda? Is that the only one? That's the only one. Okay. And that's a staff is Staff as the authority to a continued one time and then the second time would be a vote of the Yes, I know we don't have to vote on Very good Next is approval of the minutes from May 22nd to the design review board meeting Either any amendments to those minutes or changes If not I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve those minutes, is read? Second. Oh, in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi. OK. Minutes are standard is drafted. Next item on the agenda is, is there any public comment that has nothing to do with any of the cases we'll hear today? Just in general about design review, I don't have any speaker for them on it, but if there is anyone in the public who wants to make a general comment, this is the time. If not, we'll move on to our public hearing. First item on our agenda is 7a. It's a resolution for the purposes of determining final design review of revision number one to petition 23-DRB33 relating to a minor modification to the site and balcony design of the two residential buildings that are part of a new multi-family development on property owned by WSR-NBLLC and located at 1601 Gulf Shore Boulevard North, MHK presenting. Good morning, Miss. For all this intending to offer test money, please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the test money you're about to give? Be the truth, the whole truth, and not be the truth. Yes, please. Identify yourself for. Yes, thanks. Identify yourself for the record please. Thank you. Good morning, my name is Matthew Craig with MHK Architecture Planning. Do you mind your fun? With MHK Architecture and Planning, 2059 TMA and Meet trail East. We are here today for a DRB update to the final design review board that was presented to you back in October of 2023 with a 5-0 approval. This is the Rosewood project, which is located adjacent to Laudermac Park that you can see on the screen. The reason for us being here today is we have gone through the site plan application process, and then we went through the final design review board in October of 23. And then we started our construction document process and sales marketing all that stuff and we had a great season through that and Went in for building permit and we're kind of at the one yard line on building permit and we ran into some opinion of Seawall with the With the environmental environmental manager, the city. So through just coordination of that, we've decided not to manipulate the shape of the sea wall, which means we're going to be moving our north building slightly to the east and our south building slightly to the east to accommodate the Batchee courts. So if you think about what I'm presenting to you today, I'm not really representing the buildings in their entirety. We didn't touch those except for a balcony, So if you think about what I'm presenting to you today, I'm not really representing the buildings in their entirety. We didn't touch those except for a balcony, which I'll show you in the renderings. But otherwise, we took, imagine your mind, we took the mass of these buildings and everything around them, sidewalks, pool area, everything. We just shifted everything because we didn't want to redesign every little nook and cranny how it adjusted to the building because we thought it worked really well So it was it was an easier move than we anticipated So this is the previously approved plan you can see here And I have an overlay that I will show you but the two points to really look at are the sea wall the existing sea wall Comes in kind of curves along here, continues this way. This is our line, our DEP setback line. So technically per the state, we can manipulate and build anywhere within that line. But the Seawall was coming through here, and you can see our building and parking coming here. And then on this side, it's merely the bachi courts that were kind of interrupting that so Respecting this the seawall location basically we've made this adjustment so now you can see here's the new Point of the seawall we are canilevering part of the building over this section here and We we have taken the bachi courts and we've shifted those 90 degrees the area. So we're going to take a little bit over this section here. And we we have taken the Batchie courts and we've shifted those 90 degrees. The nice thing in this exercise is we had a ton of extra space in this these main drive aisles through here. So we were able to take the majority of our shifting through those drive aisles and then a little bit through the landscaping but then I'm going to have Christian and Dre come up and show you what he did with the landscaping. Basically we didn't lose a single tree and he enhanced some of the the plantings and then I have some before and afters to show you just to give you great comfort. We use the same camera angles. This is the overlay that can show you the shift in the building. So basically this one is approximately eight feet and this one is approximately six feet. I think the neighbors to the north will actually be happy about that. This is the previously approved site plan application. This has to do with our lot coverage and we had one comment during the end of the building permit process where there's a confusing part of the code that says that your balconies don't count if they're less than six feet projected from the building, but you can't exceed over 50% of that facade. So we kind of missed it in the site plan application process in the plain department through the building permit process that, hey, can you double check that? We realized that we were oversightly, so we manipulated two of the balconies on this building, which you'll see, but the massing is still there, so I don't think you'll have a big issue with it. So here's our revised lot coverage diagram and it's been checked and actually we've had an update to the site plan application we're fully approved. So I'm just going to go through quickly before and after. So again, we left the same camera spot so you can see what the building looks like shifting six feet. One of the things I want like you to pay attention to on this first building is these balconies here. These are the ones that kind of put us over the lot coverage. It's this set here and then identical set on the opposite side of the building. The way we fix that is we moved the glass railing portion towards the sliding door. So the sliding door is still open. You just don't step out on the balconies. The balconies themselves are roof overhang embellishments. So this is a before and an after. You can see the before with the balconies in their original position and after with the balcony in the same position, we just the railing step back. So aesthetically it doesn't do anything frightful to the building and it helps us meet the requirements. Then here's a previously approved slide and revised same sort of thing again kind of same camera you can see it really not affecting any of the landscaping or anything in the front. That front set back is still intact. Here's a before and after kind of straight shot. So again, look at the balconies on the far left and the balconies on the far right. This is before and that's after. So it's it's pretty de minimis. Nothing's really changing in this view. Here's a before and there's an after. Same thing with this view. We had the same situation with this little balcony here, but we were able to manipulate that slightly like with a matter of inches. So there's a before and an after, another before and an after. We had to take, originally this was a balcony, we had to take that railing off, so that's the only thing there. That's just a roof element at this point. take originally this was a balcony we had to take that that railing off so that's the only thing there that's just a roof element at this point and in the rear really nothing changes on this elevation before after nothing same with this building before after nothing really changes on the rear of the building this is before and after of that corner piece. I think the difference here in the rendering is the lighting. Then this is really the before and after that kind of really shows how the sea wall. So here you can see the sea wall coming in here and then straightening out. We have a building column coming down. And if you look on this side, the bachi cords are at a 90 degree angle. So this is before, this is after. So now this, the building respects the sea wall on the ground level and can levers over in that small corner and we've rotated the bachie courts on that side. I think that's a good way to kind of explain how we did that. Again, massing, moving the buildings just slightly before and after, just, and you can see the difference here. It's really just that little corner and the Batchie courts. It's a view from the front, kind of revised view of the front, more of the building and massing. I know some neighbors had talked originally about the building and its proximity. It's actually moving eight feet to the east, so hopefully they're happy with that, with this small move. And with that, I'm gonna have Christian Andrea say a few things about how we enhance the landscaping to make it all work well, and I'll answer any questions you may have. Good morning, Christian Andrea, landscape architect with architectural land design. This is just an overview, we'll put some little bullets here to identify the change. As Matthew indicated, the North Building shifted east about eight feet, and the pools that are associated with that also shifted, as well as this large pool here. So we gained a little bit more land between the edge of the deck and the sea wall there. The south portion of the property were these botchy ball courts rotated 90 degrees. We gained some land there as well. This building shifted southwards a little bit. As Matthew indicated, we had a little bit of landscape space and pavement here that we're able to grab those areas to allow the shift to occur. I do have one typo here and I apologize. I said north and south building shifted east. A Jason Pools also shifted south. That word should have said east. So everything just shifted east. A Jason Pools also shifted south. That word should have said east. So everything just shifted east. I don't think anything really went south. So that's the overview, big picture. This is the planting plan. So as Matthew indicated, we have retained all the trees, buffering everything remained exactly the same. All the landscape associated with these smaller pools and what with that just literally went with them. So no change there. So we just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. We just got to do a little bit of the same thing. and those locations. This is the garage, this building state as is. Everything else is per previous plan and again just whatever shrub material was just adjusted and shifted a little bit and tried to accommodate the planting areas and whatnot. That is the presentation. I am happy to answer any specific questions if you'd like or have Matthew come back up if he has anything to address Okay, I'm going to the board I mean obviously it's basically the same thing that we Approved before I do think that obviously the neighbor the north that had some issues will be you know Definitely would appreciate the move a little further east But I don't see any reason not to approve it this time looks like it's still the same building definitely would appreciate the move a little further east. But I don't see any reason not to approve it at this time. Looks like it's still the same building. Thank you. That's a great. Sorry. Yes, I agree. You know, the changes made, I think, help improve some of the concerns from the neighbors and also, you know, it's a beautiful landscape design. I think it's the longest list I've seen of species on presentation for these areas that you have to work with that are smaller in between, but a really great list of species. And I love how it creates that street scape on the front where you have that garage there and it kind of blends in. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Matthew, the reason for moving the south building, I'm assuming it has nothing to do with the building that it has to do with providing enough space for the Bauchy Coex is that the reason you moved it? Yes, sir. Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, and the south building moves less than the north building. It's just, it's slight. Yeah, I think it actually I think it's for the better that if we had to start be building that sea wall and disturbing the beach and that, the less intervention we have on that shoreline, the better. So that's right that you're able to retain your design that we approved and still respect the existing sea wall and beach conditions I think is an improvement. Good staff report. Good morning for the record Leslie Dolmer the City enables plain department. Mara's main qualifications are a file with this petition and I've been previously certified as an expert in planning and zoning. I know before you today is revision 1 to petition 23, DRB 33. As the petitioner mentioned in the remarks, this revision is a result of some changes required and identified through the building permit process. And because the designer of U-Board approves a specific set of plans, and so those changes were going to require changes to the plans and there would be an inconsistency between what you all reviewed and approved and what would be on the building permit plans. And so we identified this and informed the petitioner and the property owner of the need to submit this revision. So, identify this and inform the petitioner and the property owner of the need to submit this revision. As you've heard from the petitioner, the result, the changes are slight modifications to the location of buildings and a few of the site features and then a change to a balcony design on the south building. We sent a notice letter to surrounding property owners within a thousand feet. We did not receive any correspondence related to the request. And we recommend if the board should approve the scope of revision one, we recommend continuing the condition related to the landscape letter of compliance at the conclusion of construction. I think as Sabrina noted, especially with a plant pallet as extensive as this, it's very important to have the landscape architect certify that the landscape is installed consistent with the plans as well as the, in addition to the staff's 290 inspections. So with that staff's available in order to bring questions. That's it. OK, before I bring back to you, but we do have one speaker on this and Mr. Rogan. Mike Rogan. I live in the first building to the north. I speak as an individual. I am not on the board of directors of the Bahama Club. I want to go on record saying that should the Bahama Club be sold at some point in the future? The people in 1601 should not complain if the building is moved further to the west. With that said, I want to also go on record saying I think that the 1601 is an exceptional building. I think it's extremely well designed in what we want on Gauss-Sor Bolivar. I think it's cutting edge as far as hurricanes are concerned. And as far as just aesthetics go, I'm glad they're moving it further to the east. I've lived on the beach for quite a while. I've lived in the Bahama Club, which was built closer to the beach. And I think it's a mistake. I think the more space you live between the building and the beach, the more you create an exceptional living environment. I mean, if you live on the beach, create that space for the beach. That's one nice thing about the embassy. We have a great amount of living space between the building and the beach, and that just makes it much better. My next statement almost sound absurd, but I've lived in Naples so long. I really truly believe this. The least expensive dirt in the city long term is the beach. Ponder that, enjoy it. Neighbors, I thank you for your time. And I think the people for creating and great building for the beach. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Appreciate it. We have bring it back to the beach. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Appreciate it. We have to bring it back to the board. Any further discussion on this item? If not, we'll entertain a motion. I make a question. To approve the revision one to petition 23-DRB 33 for the property relating to the miter modifications of the balconies and the two residential buildings located at 1601 Gulf Shore Boulevard North. Second. second. Roll call please. Vice Chair Fredrickson, absent. Member Haahi. Yes. Member Mikaim. Here. Yes. Member Orion is also absent. And Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Matthew. Next item on the agenda. and Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Matthew. Next item on the agenda, we as staff indicated 7B has been continued by staff. That moves us to 7C, which is a resolution for the purposes of determining petition 24-DRB 19 relating to the final design review of exterior facade changes to a property owned by a Neapolitan enterprise as LLC and located at 25513th Avenue South. Again, a MHK presenting. Good morning. Good morning, sir. Those have been sworn in. I have anyone else testifying other than you? No sir. Okay. Identify yourself for the record please. Mark McClain, MHK Architecture 2059, Tammy and Metro East. Okay, disclosure. I've been to the site and reviewed the application. I'm very familiar with the site and reviewed the application. I'm also familiar with the site and reviewed the application. podium issues. Good morning. I bring to you this morning a maintenance update to a well-known building here in Naples. We're requesting improvements to 255-13th Avenue South. It's an exterior upgrade to the building. I think everyone knows it's where the pub used to be. Anyone who's familiar with it knows that some of the Vining that's growing on the building is as overwhelmed the building a little bit and it's due for some maintenance but with the old pub retirement and Them moving on we're gonna do a few other minor face lists to the building and change the color of it and bring it up to speed So this is the way it currently exists with Lily Pulitzer in unit 101. The old pub was in 102 and 103 was vacant with their center existing outdoor dining in the courtyard as we refer to it as the courtyard building. In our new proposal, we're really not changing anything there except for there are two flights of stairs off of the existing outdoor dining that come down into the courtyard that we're going to remove and make little nook seating areas in there with our future tenant that we're in discussions with now. Unit 102 and 103 are both going to become occupied by the new potential tenant that we're in negotiations with at this point. The main thrust of what we're after today, again, is from the existing images, you can see the vines have overtaken the building, especially in the courtyard area, where some of the trees have bloomed and the vines have overgrown. The canopy is torn and leaking. So to make this maintenance update, we really have to take all the vines off the building. So with that, we'll start with the courtyard side of the building. Once we strip all the vines off, we're going to put a new white canvas awning on here, and we're going to paint the building this beautiful shade of pink. With that, that kind of carries through that all of the existing black iron work that's on the building will be updated painted or repotter coated black depending on the condition of it or replaced as needed if the condition warrants it once we get some of it exposed that we can't get to right now because of the vining grown on it. All of the awning frames seem to be intact, but we're going to recamvis all of the awnings. The Lily Pulitzer signage is correct. The font for the potential tenant is correct in this signage, but we're in an NDA right now and have not signed the lease with this tenant. So we're projected to have this signage exactly as it is with their font. It'll just have their name versus the word tenant on it. The Lily Pulitzer side of the building on the south side of the building is staying as is. There's the new onings that are on there. Again, the black metal work will be cleaned up and updated as needed. The main tenant sign for the new restaurant tour will be in this aluminum archway that exists in the back. But that will be the exact same font, the exact same size and shape. It'll just have the new tenants name on it once we get under our lease agreement with them. Coming around to the north end of the building. This is an end of the building that most people don't see unless they're cutting through the parking lot to get into the courtyard itself. And then back to the parking lot side or the west side of the building where most people approach the building. We think it is a great upgrade, a nice color change to the building. Once we get into a little bit of the vignette again, now you can really start seeing that the font in the signage is characteristically to the tenant that we're currently negotiating with. And again, we're just going to carry that through. That same tenant will take over to space 103 here, and it will become part of a deli area that's going to be into their operating program. Again, we're still negotiating and designing that portion of it. That tenant does know that we'll have to come back for an outdoor dining application and go through the city council process for outdoor dining once that lease is in place. But we just think it really cleans the building up. Really is gonna give it a whole new feel, a whole new vibe down there. It will be a great addition to the third avenue district and really bring some new life and some new vitalization down there. The color is the Perky Peach. It is a Benjamin more color with the Chantilly lace trim. The canvas awning will be the Simbrella neutral and the ones from Willie Pollitzer will have a gold stripe in them. So with that I'm available for questions. How are you doing? It's a bit... As far as the facade changes, I mean, it's what a huge difference, and you know, the paint colors are going to be definitely impressive. I think it's a little bit tricky for me to see from a landscape standpoint. It looks like obviously the vines are coming off, but the rest is staying the same. Yes, ma'am. And then the graphic you have up is just additional planting around that courtyard area. I think obviously, cleaning up and taking the vines off has made a difference. And I think it helps it be more maintainable. But I think just to keep note if there's anything else that changes as far as the landscape, then it might be something we want to look at in a landscape review form and a landscape plan but I don't have any concerns with it I think it's a beautiful building. Thank you if if if the landscaping changes are varies from what's existing when we dig it up and say hey this would be better it would be more than happy to come back for landscape changes. to skip changes. Yeah, obviously we're not making any big changes to the actual building itself. But I do like the Perky Peach, I think it's kind of a timeless color down here. It gives it more of that Caribbean and South Florida feel. So I don't mind that at all. I am definitely very disappointed those vines are going away. Understand why. Was there any talk at all about potentially planting some more to look for years for them to get the size they are now so we have not had that conversation as of yet. Okay I just didn't know that that was something that would be potentially looked at. I think that they're a wonderful, they give that space so much more interest. If there's any way to potentially start to grow them back. It might take 40 years, but hopefully the building will be there that long. Absolutely. Other than that, I think everything else looks great. I just want to see those vines still. That's all. Okay. Other than that is good. I will take that forward to our client. I kind of agree with Doug on the vines. As long as I've been both coming to the Naples and living here, those vines are iconic. And that building was the vine building to me. And it just made that character that, but they have gotten so out of control that it kind of looks like a ruin there now, rather than a pleasant space to be. And when I first opened these renderings, I said, well, it's nice that we're finally getting a building that isn't being painted off my white. So, but I looked at it and I thought, oh my god, pink. I think we're going to have to name this the Barbie building. I think it's trendy. I think it's pink is already in fashion and everything is pink, pink, pink, pink. But I'm not crazy about pink. I hope it was maybe toned down just a little bit. It's awfully big building, the big pink. But let's try. The paint is paint. If it doesn't work well, you spray it another color in a few years. Let's see how it plays. And you do have another pink building on the street. So I'll be at a smaller building. And that's been classic. Marissa's been pink for a few samples. We put quite a few samples on the building up on the roof level and the building owner picked this color personally. Yeah. And I know the building. Well, I think it definitely gets an attention on the street. I'm glad it's not white. Thank you. Other than that, I think it's an improvement. I think the character of that courtyard space without the lines and the landscaping in there is going to be very different. And maybe once it's all done and said and done, as Sabrina said, maybe there's going to be, you can think of softening up with some modifications to the landscape, but I take that into consideration. I assume that you mentioned both of those spaces, two and three, we'll be the same tenant and the tenant is food, right? The tenant is, I'm sorry. The tenant will be food, it's going to be a little bit. Yes, sir, it's going to stay a restaurant if I go back to the floor plan here. We're basically putting the kitchen in the back half of unit 103. There'll be some, you know, deli take out covered outdoor dining area in here and then this will be the restaurant area back here. We're not and the outdoor dining stage. Yeah. We're not completely through vetting out the design yet, so that's why we didn't want to bring it forward today, but yes, it is the same operator in suite 102 and 103. Okay, yes, sir. Very good. Staff report. Good morning, Jeff Bramer with the Planning Department. I've been sworn in my credentials or listed on file with this application. As you've heard, the petitioners requesting final design review approval for several exterior facade alterations. Property is a prominent large mixed use building in the fashion of all 3rd streets, south, shopping district. Proposed changes include awning, removal and replacement, light fixture, removal and replacement, vine and vegetation removal from the exterior walls, and a new paint job. The lone structural changes include removal and infill of two small patio stairways. These stairways are located at the edge of the open air courtyard, which used to be the outdoor seating for the old Naples pub, which closed last month. The new awnings are off-white acrylic sunbrella awnings. The new light fixtures are black candle style wall sconces. The new paint scheme, as you've heard, includes a coral hue perky peach for the main body of the building. And the building's trim and accents will be a soft cotton shantilly lace. The infield stairways will be new elevated concrete patio surface. These spaces will be enclosed with railings to match the existing railings. All of these changes are designed to enhance the appearance of the property and ensure its consistency relative to its neighbors. 345 letters were mailed to property owners within a thousand feet of the subject property. To date staff has received no communication related to the request. Staff has reviewed the proposal against the criteria provided in section 50241 and the design review handbook and fines that the criteria have been met for your consideration. Concluses my comments, of course, I'm available for any questions. Thank you. Okay. for any questions. Thank you. Okay. I don't see any comments on this. Okay, bring it back to the board and for the discussion. There may end up being after the sprain of the paint, some pink bushes as well. So we might have, it's gonna be tricky to not get it on the landscape there, but I think I know you guys have ways of doing that. That was my last comment for the Barbie. Let's go Barbie all the way up. You know what it comes, is, do I hear a motion? I will motion to approve petition 24 DRB 19 relating to the final design review of exterior facade changes on property owned by Neopolitan Enterprises LLC and located at 255-13th Avenue South. Second, roll call please. Vice Chair Frederickson, Assistant Member Haihi. Yes. Member Mikaib. Yes. Member Orion, who's also absent and Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, sir. Next item on the agenda is 7D resolution for the purposes of determining petition 24-DRB-20 relating to preliminary design review of a new three story multifamily development and related amenities on the property owned by a geo-southern intermediate holdings LLC and located at 1080 first Avenue South MHK presenting. Good morning again. Good morning again. Just for the record identify yourself again. Mark McClain, MHK Architecture 2059, Tammy and Metro East. Okay, disclosures. I've reviewed the application and familiar with the site. familiar with the site and reviewed the application as well. And I'm familiar with the site and we do the application as well. And I'm familiar with the site and we review the application. Body measures. Good morning again. The project I bring before you today is 1080, First Avenue South. This is a three story multifamily development that's situated in downtown Naples in the D downtown zoning district. The main entrance will be from First Avenue South. The project consists of a three story building, excuse me, with 30 units and amenities. The building will have an entrance accessible to residents through the garage. There'll be several access points from within the garage and another accessible sidewalk entrance for guests and pedestrian coming off the first street. There's a pool on the deck on the second floor in an amenity zone. There's a typo there and the southeast quadrant of the site of the building for homeowners use. Again just an overall area of an aerial view of the general area the building will sit in this upper left portion of the L the southeast area down here is where the amenities will sit within our space. So as we dive into the building a little bit here, what we have is a ground floor that has a drive-in entrance off a first that comes into private garages for each one of the units. So you come into a major underbuilding garage with all the minor two car garages for each one of the unit owners. There are six units on this floor. There are two here that face first face north on the first and there's four in the rear. The four in the rear are unique because they will have their own private courtyards and their own private pools. From there, the things that we want to point out is that West neighbor is the collective. The East neighbor is a public service district, is the new city's garage and then the future when building is also to our east. As we move up through the building, we start getting elevated so that we'll be on par with our neighbors to the south which is Naples square one. But as we move up through the building, this floor actually has 10 units on it. There are 10 units, four on the first avenue side, six that surround the pool. And then the four in the rear again that had the private pool. Those are townhouse units back down to the ground floor. So that's why if you're having a miscount from 30 to 34, those back four units on the south side are townhouse units that come up to this amenity deck level So at this point you can start seeing the building footprints that go out to the east For the amenities you can see the roofs as those plans play out and I'll get into those floor plans as we move into the building As we move up to the third floor of the building the third floor consists of 14 units up here So these become flat units in the back where the townhouses were once were on the third floor consists of 14 units up here. So these become flat units in the back where the townhouses were once were on the third floor. So this gives us 14 units on the third floor. And again, this just overlooks the roofs of the amenities below. The roof plan we intend to have all the mechanicals on the roof plan, one thing that I noticed that we missed was down here that when we get into the amenity plane, you'll see this is a restroom building that's not truly designated correctly here, but the mechanicals for the amenities will be on the roof of that restroom and fully screened as we move through those buildings. Again, this is the amenity area on the south side, so owners can come out. This is all at the design flood elevation, so we're not pushing all this down and trying to dry flood proof it because this is residential only. It's not a mixed-use building. We have to come up to DFE. So we're at design flood elevation with this. So the space is a walkway that comes from the units out to a community social room, to a community gym that has some locker rooms out here, some restrooms for the social room and the gym itself, and then a fitness area back here. At this point in preliminary design review we haven't got into what that fitness area is going to be, whether it's going to be a basketball court or a small racket court or just a large yoga room, but we'll have that further defined when we come back for final design review board, but it's just going to be a nice fitness area. From there the patrons or the owners will be able to go down a ramp into a park area here that that will be highlighted in Christians presentation when Christian does the landscape presentation. From there we want to highlight the amenity deck on the second floor of the building that the units flow into the amenity deck now you can see from the unit configurations here they each have a private deck that will be well landscaped so that the the owners will have a private deck that will be well landscaped. So the owners will have a private terrace that walks out to the public terrace and the pool. On the public terrace, there's a pool equipment room and a pool bath, a little bar for patrons that are there. So this will be a covered, a small covered area here that has a grilling station out here if someone wanted to have over guests for our larger pool area. The building section, it's a generic section that runs through the building, but it identifies all of our parking heights work, our pool heights and spa heights work, our floor to floor heights as we anticipate them. All the mechanical equipment will be fully screened and we are compliant with the 42 foot building height in the D downtown zoning district. The 2D elevations, I won't spend a lot of time on these. We can always come back to them if we need to. We've identified some of the materials on these 2D elevations, but as always, they show a little better on the rendering, so we'll come back to those on the renderings. Again, the amenity building, the club room, the fitness area, and then this larger fitness area, or the gym, and then the larger fitness area that we haven't defined yet. We have 20 foot ceilings in there. So we have plenty of space if we wanted to do a half basketball quarter something in there. We just got to, you know, start taking a little bit of census of potential buyers and see what exactly we want to put in that space. Against some 2D elevations of that. So normally we start off with the while rendering, but the context of this building is hugely important is why we wanted to start with aerials on this to kind of show the context of this. To our west is the collective, and the collective's parking garage basically becomes our eastern facade. So we wanted to kind of make sure that we honored our setbacks in there and focused our courtyard that way. And you can see all of the landscaping that we're planning down on the ground level and on our deck level is to create that buffer between that parking garage and our amenity space. The parking garage to the east is the city's parking garage and then as discussed this is Naples Square 1 and Naples Square 3 to our south and the future winds building to the east. Staying along with the aerials, we came around to the northeast looking back at the building. One of staff's comments was enhancing this corner and I'll discuss that a little bit more when I get to the renderings of this building. And then I want to discuss a little bit of this eastern facade that staff has suggested that we need to enhance, but we can have the conversation of how we enhance that going forward. So as you're coming down first, you can drive in here, or there's a pedestrian entrance here, or the drive through, now this alley that's being created in here is an alley for the city's parking garage. So when the winds building is in here and we get the final design of the winds building and come back for final, we'll drop all that in here so we can see exactly what that's going to look like from that standpoint. Again, just another aerial from the southeast and from the southwest. So this is the primary entrance corner of the building. The pedestrian entrances where these people are walking in. Here, the car entrances, here, where a car is driving in. We do feel we need to enhance this a little bit, whether it's articulate that space out. Right now these rendering show everything in a two-tone stucco, an off-white with a brown trim color. We're looking at options to change that to potentially a brake metal and a lucha bond, maybe even a porcelain tile. So we're looking at some porcelain tile options now. But for now, we know we're going to have a two-tone, very simple two-tone building, very modern, just to really tuck into this final spot in this downtown district that we're working with here. As we move around, this is just a view from First Avenue South looking back to the north side of the building. Again, the brown surrounds that kind of tie into the modern simplistic feel of the architecture here. We're probably going to change those to a porcelain tile or something sleek like that. Again, the horizontal or the vertical banding that we're running in this building really ties in really well with the collective. The collective has a lot of glazing in this space. We just kind of have it white boxed out from now, but in our final renderings we'll put the final collective under images imagery in there so we can see exactly how we are adjacent to our neighbors. So once the wind building goes in, this is the eastern facade of the building. Don't know that we want to improve this a lot. If you go back and look at the floor plans, this is a corridor. So the units aren't up against this space. This is the outer facade of the building due to building separations and our glazing requirements. We've created a corridor that the owner goes into the building, walks down to the corridor, and then into their unit. So it's an interior corridor. And really the only separation that you would have is this if you're driving east to west from the playhouse to the parking garage you would see this facade here. Staff does not like where we have these dumpsters and we're in some minor design changes to potentially move those to the southwest corner but before we can move into the southwest corner we have to have some negotiations with the collective because that's where their trash is but we would have to pick up our trash through their access roads So we're in the process of doing that so there's just some minor tweaks that we're in the process of but all and all from a design perspective We think this is pretty pretty close to where we are So a view from the southwest looking at the private pool areas that are down there the two-story townhouses with some Simple metal roofs in here so that these buyers basically feel like they're in a small single family home or any of the courtyard homes that are here in the old Naples district so to kind of have that feel in these little courtyards back here. Moving up to the larger amenity pool again we have the outdoor bar area, the grill area and then I'll let Christian talk more at the separation of our building to the collective and how he plans to handle that with landscaping. A well landscaped interior pool area for the owners of the building to really just enjoy a nice spacious pool area to be able to have guests come over or just get off of their own porch. So this is what I was talking about the private terraces that walk out to a gate, that walk out to the public pool from the private terrace areas. Just a direct aerial from overhead that you can see the final layout with some of the cabana areas that are in here, the covered areas, the grill areas. Again, Christian will speak to the landscaping of the plan and how we plan on separating those spaces. With that, I will turn it over to Christian for the landscape portion of our presentation. Good morning, Christian, Andrea, landscape architect with architectural land design, existing conditions, basically a very under landscape site. Probably the most under landscape site in Florida and Naples. This is an overview of green areas indicate the previous areas of the site and whatnot. This little white rectangle, apologize, was a graphic, I don't know, some weird little glitch. That's green too, so that little white thing is nothing. And I'll come through and look at everything big, picture-wise. But this is the collective here to the west or doing an extensive buffer here to help soften and privatize that area. We have the private residential pools to the south and then we have this park environment to the eastern corner. This is just an enlargement. This is the hardscape aspects. This park area is intended on being a hybrid park dog run area so we'll be fenced in. We've created a seating opportunity both inside and outside the fence area so visitors can kind of hang out without going in the dog park as well as people that are in the dog park having opportunity sit and then some secondary seating elements out there. These are the pools. This is a remarkably we've been allocated a fair bit of space to play with so we've created some really cool pool areas here and we've got some grade changes to work with as well. So these are proportionally pretty large and very single family-like shazes, elevated spas, different seating opportunities, whether right now we're showing this as an artificial turf patio, and then a little walkway floating stepstones coming across the back, a little wet wall feature potentially for little white noise and little backdrop. And then a series of steps getting down to grade. These pools are all serviced from an equipment standpoint on the southerly side. So this cord or along the south is the service cord or for the pool equipment. So here's a pool equipment. Then we doubled these two together. Totally different pool design, large stepping pod that goes across reasonably almost swim lane here, again wet wall features on the side here. Sunkin going down a handful of steps to a sunken seating fire pit area and the next plan also a different design, kind of floating pots in the middle of the water. Stepping down to a sunken fire pit again. There's the equipment pad back in here, screened with the wall for privacy and noise abatement. This pool also unique, where again, where we're having stepping stones, the sunken fire pits and internal quadrant here, and then planters around it. The pool area, this is unique. We've kind of got out of that rectangular mode. So this whole courtyard, you'll notice everything's curved. So if you look at all the planters have curved edges, so it's much softer environment. The pool has curved lines to it. These planters here typically would have been erased, quite large. Planter that usually sits above the deck. We're looking to embed and recess that down, so it's only about 12 inches above the deck. So the actual planter mask goes into the ceiling of the garage and gives us a much better scaling proportion to the space. The spa is any elongated ellipse, or I guess that's any ellipse. And then the shea shelf with the rounded corners, bubbler fountains for some noise again, and a fair bit of green space within this courtyard. This is the overview of the planting, big picture, and I'll scroll through in detail. The North property line, we have mahogany trees along the front for street trees. These are royal palms. We've introduced some vera woods. These are yellow flowering trees for some color. Chinese fan palms in the corner. And then the theme for the buffer along the west side is a series of Washingtonia palms, staggered heights, and then in filling with green button but in what underneath that will ultimately grow into kind of fill them the void between the heights because we do have some height differentials to contend with. This is a Bismarck palm and then some more Chinese fan palms and then this is the private garden or not I guess entry garden I should say as you walk into the space through here to the side here so we've got kind of a river stone bed. And then a mix of plantings underneath here, or let's see, come shade tolerance. We have xanadune things like that. And then we have a bamboo, long cord or along the back. So it creates kind of a courtyard effect, that location. Reasonably extensive plant pallets, so a fair bit of variety. This is the South property line. So this is kind of adding to the existing Naples Square buffer that's there. So we're kind of augmenting that to try to fill in the gaps. Proposing travelers palms, also along with the mix of Washingtonia palms and green button woods to again fill in and where we can maximize the privacy. The units themselves have a mix of palms, variety with hurricane palms, Christmas palms, foxtail palms, so each one is a little bit different. And then this is a garden area here to the east coming through with the meandering pathway. This right now we think is a crushed shell path that just services the back, primarily for maintenance access for the public equipment was the intent for that. The dog park area, we've got a mix of oak trees, so this symbol represents oaks. These are, I think those are Chinese fans, yes. And then coconut palms here, nice meandering bed of landscape coming around. The little seating pods I mentioned, very large open lawn area, hedge and privacy across the east side, gumball limbo for different feature trees here, and then a mix of cabbage palms along the side. Pool deck, these are Sylvester palms is the focal point around the pool. This is that buffer of Washingtonia's staggered to try to maximize the height and privacy between the units. Our pool equipments in this building right here behind the bar area that Mark mentioned. We've got turf areas to create that green space effect and then we've got a mix of different tree species internally. We've got pigmentate palms, silver button wood, hurricane palms. So it's a nice tropical mix within that. Just a sample picture of the plant species. And you can see the diversity of plants that are being proposed here. And that concludes my presentation. Happy to answer any questions if you'd like. Okay. I think that the overall facade in the front is solid. It's kind of in keeping with a lot of the other buildings in the area there. Obviously most of this building isn't really going to be seen a whole lot from the public. Most of it's interior. One question I had regarding the dumpsters and the alley on the east side. and the alley on the east side. With that dumpster access, if that, because that other project hasn't been finalized yet, if that changes, and for some reason, is that access always gonna be there for those dumpsters? Or is that something that you're just being on in the house? That will landscape it out, and we have since found out from staff it is going to change. That's why we haven't submitted our site plan yet Okay, so we're just kind of getting ahead with preliminary design review board We're working through some minor changes with that. We're we're looking at potentially bringing them down here But like I said, we've got to talk to the collective this is where the collective's trash is so we feel if we could put it right here But again, we'd have to have an access agreement from the collective that right now this has become a city street. So since that's going to the city's parking garage, they don't want us to have access to that because the truck would back out onto the street. We just got to work through the final location of those dumpsters. Okay. Yeah, I was a bit concerned with that and making sure that you have that access. Yes, sir. And if those are placed properly. As far as the landscaping on the north side, those mahogany's do you have an idea how big those are going to be when they're going to be put in? I'm sure Christian does. 16 foot tall is what we were planning on. Okay so they're good size to begin with healthy. Okay yes I know mahogany's are a little bit slower growing, so I want to make sure they're good size so that they have that initial emphasis on the front of the building. Other than that, I like the landscaping up top on the layout of the courtyard area, I think that's very nice. And I think it's a very well thought out building from the use and access. So I think it's pretty solid. Thank you. Thanks. It's pretty good. Yeah, I agree. I think the landscaping was really well done. Layering it will be important in making sure the sizes, eventually the Washingtonians will, you know, over time grow even taller than the building. So having those layers grow up, I think, is important that you're doing. For me, also, I think, well, I said last time that was the most species, but maybe this is the most species I've seen, but I think, you know, incorporating the canopy trees where you have them. And then the way you've drawn attention to the entryways, the most species I've seen, but I think incorporating the canopy trees where you have them and then the way you've drawn attention to the entryways, the amenities, it's really well done. I love the different designs you have in options for the residents here. I do think seeing now the full piece of the puzzle together with this whole area and what winds is doing in that parking area, I agree. I know there's going gonna be a lot of service and congestion of the dumpsters and things that will be generated all around. So I think that definitely hopefully can work out with an agreement to shift that location. And I do think that facade on that side does seem pretty blank wall, though I know that's a parking lot on the side there seem pretty blank wall, though I know that's a parking lot on the side there. I think the comment you had about going to potentially a porcelain tile will help with some of the detail of it because it is so blocky on that side of the wall. And I do love the front side and how it addresses the street with the balconies. And I think depending on if that is going to be fully screened with landscaping the way it's shown, you know, that will help soften that side. But, you know, in some of the views has definitely got a lot of that blank space. And then the windows help break that up. But as far as all the comments related to the site, the orientation of it, I think you guys did a great job because of the space you had in the amount of building you have, but also getting the right orientation with as much sun and providing that to the amenities. I like how you've created that trail along the side to the fitness area and is that park on the corner going to be open for public use or is that just private that's not private. I think that's one area I'd make sure like look at the species of dogs are using that space I know I've gotten questions sometimes you know if they eat that you know is it toxic so some of those species in that area I think are beautiful but if dogs are running out there in that fence in area with it just to consider and check but you know this is preliminary so you've created so much detail that it's you know we'll see this on the next round and and be able to look at some of these areas again. So those are my comments. Thank you. Okay let's start with the nooshie stuff. If you're going to move the dumpsters down near the collective, how are you going to thread that in there? Because you're right up against one of those townhouses. Yeah, we're going to have to find by in that townhouse. I don't want to smelly dumpster right next to my deck. Well, you know, the good news is there's not a restaurant in this building. So, you know, there good news is there's not a restaurant in this building. So, you know, there's already a dumpster here from the collective. So as Christian was pointing out, it's a fairly large area. So to take that out, it's basically we have this designated as a turf area now. So if we have to jog that wall to get that dumpster in there again, that's just the negotiations of that. We felt this was a great access point because the wind stuff is right here, but once staff explained to us the ownership of that street and how winds is operating, it's a little different than what we're asking for. So we'll continue to work with staff to get a dumpster location that satisfies everyone. I think we're getting a devalued at that western townhouse by putting the dumpsters there. I don't know where else you can put them because you have shoehorned this building in as as Greeners had very nicely at the orientations. Again, getting a flight, those little townhouses that are secluded back there. I think it may be very special. Yes, sir. The other question is, you talk about the shell path to get to the pool. If I'm a, you know, the pool service person, I park my truck and how do I get to that whole service quarter? Where is the access to the service quarter in the back? Well, he would have to park in the guest parking inside the building here, and then he would pass through the building back out into this service area or through this stair out here to get back to this service area to get back. Okay, so you're coming from the garage, you're not coming from the street anywhere, you're coming. No, I don't think a service guy would park on 12th and hike all the way. Well, that's what I was concerned about. Yes, sir. Yeah, the other thing is that would have, you know, and we had great discussion about this when we reviewed the garage. There is a little seating parking area on the southwest corner of the garage. Southeast corner. Southeast corner right in there. Yes, sir. I'd be interested to see the relationship between, even though one's South East corner. South East corner right in there. Yes sir. I'd be interested to see the relationship between, even though one's private and the one's public, but the relationship of those two park spaces to kind of integrate them, to make them look, you know, from the street looked like they play with each other. And they're not, you know, to turning their back on each other. Right. So no Christians plan to develop this Christian, I think we'd like to see how that relates to the park across the process. They're parked right here, right? It's not a big area, but I think I'd like to see how that all relates together from landscaping as one element. Also, sorry, we don't see rendering from 12th that amenity building in a relationship to the garage and the collective. I think the garage and the collective are going to make this a period to be almost like a cool little courtyard park here. And it would be interesting to see how just what the massing is around that courtyard and how it would feel. Yeah, and we can definitely get that rendering when we get there. I think it shows best from the one aerial. Let me see which one, let me get my bearing here now. The parking garage itself kind of blocks it here, but it is this little parking park here. Yeah, I think that that, you know, coming down this, I'm always concerned about your your street presence and as you move down the street and particularly there's a lot of pedestrian going we're trying to encourage pedestrian moving along that street. I'm interested to see how that how that appears as you move past the buildings in the street. Yeah we'll shoot a rendering in this way because we're gonna wanna see the Eastern facade of that amenity building. But we're still, you know, that amenity building is not quite as tall as the parking garage. Obviously, nowhere near the five stories that Maple Square three years. Right, there are different massing there. And they just didn't just say how those three buildings encompass that park area and make it an outdoor room. Absolutely. As far as the building, when I opened this up the first time and started looking at it, I go, hmm. This almost looks like a schematic-massing model and not a complete design. It's, you know, we masked it up. We laid out the floor plans, then we punched a whole bunch of windows in them and threw some color. And we're not there yet. We're still thinking, is that where we are with this? I think we're a little further than that because we want to stay modern, but yeah, we know the brown is not going to be brown stuck upco but we don't know what that is yet. Again we get trapped in between this preliminary and how much do we bring to preliminary that we're kind of locked into. Well yeah look at things like the railing details. Yeah those look like big old 80s sliding windows. know, your million pattern, your deep, maybe your detail around the windows, the detail under the windows, maybe there's a recess in there. There's just something about this thing that is, it's blocky. It looks like what I would do if I'm, you know, just out of schematics, I want to mess it up and I want to make it, make it see what it's going to look like in scale and in articulation on the building. I think from your rhythm on the facade, in the good, it just seems like there's not the level of detail to make this thing. Yes, we wanted to be contemporary, but it really kind of looks undone yet. That was my first impression on this. And I think you're wondering what to start, take a look at the fine detail. And most of your work, you do have that fine detail that gives you the fine grain, the texture, the layering on the building. And I don't see that in this building. And we'll certainly get there for final design review. We just, again, how preliminary does preliminary get? Yeah, and that's why I asked if you came in basically with your schematic massing model. So like I said, it's a little more than that, because we don't want to go over the top in detailing with this building. As you know, pricing is growing every day in our market, where it's the last building in a community that is growing, but the community's kind of dictating our pricing, which is, I don't want to say dictating our architecture, or architecture, we can do a lot of special things, but we've wanted to stay simple here. It's very simple again with this North elevation of the collective. The collective has a lot more glass on it, because it's a mixed use building or because it's a commercial building. But we didn't want to get too far out of character with the street on this building. I'm not suggesting that you really need to brackets and I don't consider detail on it. But I think just the fine detail, dealing with your millions, dealing with relationships of your verticals, your spind of panels underneath the windows, the railing details, you know, switching. I guess, you say the brown probably we might be something else. Those sort of things. I think you can do it without, you know, getting crazy. Go to the elevation off when you're coming alongside the parking lot. That one. I actually thought that was one of the better elevations I did too on the building. It says what it is. You've got a quarter back there. You want to break up the wall. You don't want to shear wall there. But you don't want to hold glass wall there. And it's in scale with the building to the left and the building behind you. You know, those are kind of commercial institutional type buildings. And you have the opportunity to make that facade in scale with the other buildings, because it's really non-residential, it's just a corridor. So I think of all the facades that were the most successful. And I thought it duly noted. So, you know, not that you should carry that theme around to the north or the south. No, we can't walk any further. And it is very different than the other façades, but it reflects what's behind it. It reflects that it's not residential units back there. They're not broken up. They are more utilitarian spaces back there. And, you know, I tend to agree with the staff getting those dumpsters out of there visually would be much better, but I'm still concerned about taking them around by that townhouse. Okay. I'd suggest you, you know, you kind of look at window-real details, relationships of the windows to one another. I think what you've done on those six windows, the way they're grouped together and they form a composition on the wall, that may not be as there's more successful than some of your relationships and windows on the residential side. Okay. It's like, it's all I have. Staff report. Good morning for the record. Leslie Dolmer, the City and Able's Planning Department. My resume and qualifications are on file and I've been previously certified as an expert in planning and zoning. This item's, item 70 is a request for preliminary design review for our new three-story multifamily development with related amenities on the property located at 1080 first avenue. So as the petitioner included in their remarks the this property is an sort of an infill redevelopment property between a commercial three-story commercial building known as the collective north of five-story residential buildings of Naples Square, Naples Square 1 and Naples Square 3 and then to the east, the city's parking garage and then the wind project which is another three-story mixed-use development. So this is sort of an infill location and perhaps an urban infill, urban for Naples, infill location in the D downtown zoning district. The petitioners provided the background with respect to the overall design. I'm just gonna highlight a couple of areas that the city expects to see further design development. The project has not been submitted for Site Plain Review yet. One of the things that we're continuing to work with Petitioner on, and I believe they wanted to address it before they submitted for Site Plan Review is the location of the dumpsters. That's an ongoing discussion. That is not, right, to the east is not actually an alley. That is city property. Functions as an access drive to the parking garage. And so they cannot use a neighboring property to get to your dumpsters. You know, we don't get into the technical details, but we expect to see that that will be a changed location. One of the other areas that I highlighted in my staff report that we expect to see some design evolution on is the pedestrian entrance along for Stavinew. And the petitioner made remarks today that they will continue to develop that as well. Along on the south side, I have some concerns and I mentioned it under the crime prevention through environmental design. There is a, because of some of the setback areas there between this property line and the rear setback and then also the Naples Square side. There's an area where we're concerned there may not be a whole lot of eyes in a landscaped area along that South area. So you may recall that service courted it runs. Yeah and is it a service corridor? I mean there had been some previous designs and there were different project that looked at that as pedestrian connection from 10th to the playhouse and that was a different design. We're not requiring that here, but I think we want to be very careful about how we design it if we're going to be encouraging pedestrian walk through through there or we not and how we're going to secure it if we're not going to be encouraging public access through. I don't believe that's our intention, but there's just enough space that people are going to be tempted. I believe, you know, desire lines and desire paths for folks when they're out walking around. So that can be addressed through their design, through environmental design. That's one of the areas that we expect to see some development. Do you bring that up on the screen we show us what you're talking about? We'll take it. Maybe the landscape plans might be great. Yeah. We've talked about it as well. I think there is, let's see where you go. I think there's merit in probably securing it here with the fence to secure from public access so that way it is private and Then the alternative from a septid standards is probably nice solution is cameras and things like that from a security standpoint Which would have to monitor so I think that would be our solution to that that issue So you'd fence and on 12 and and and by the collective I think I'd just go south with the line or off the corner of this, in fence. Right there. So then we close and gate it and code it, whatever stuff somebody wants to go in that way, they need a security code to come in. And you're fenced in the other end, aren't you? We're closed in, yes. So I think that's how we would secure that. Okay. Yeah. That's incredible. It's not very often I really get to get into some of those crime prevention through environmental design issues, but this was a very clear one for me when I was taking a look at the preliminary design elements here. So we've reviewed the petition against the criteria provided in section 2-479 and the design review handbook and find that the plans have adequately addressed those criteria for preliminary review provided further details included in the final design semiddle. And we've discussed that. We expect to see some design evolution. This is early days in this project that not submitted the site plan. So should the board approve the preliminary request, staff recommends the following conditions that the site plan approval in any other land use entitlements must be secured prior to submittal for final design. So standard condition. Um, positioner should consider coordinating with the wind building design team to incorporate that design in the context drawings for final design to provide a complete and accurate picture of the South Side of for Savonu South. I, you, we may even want to consider the whole from 10th to Goodlett. It's a relatively small block. We've got design plans for all of those buildings at this point. It would be in terms of context. I think it would be in a very interesting drawing to provide. We've got a couple of different styles, and we're not looking for exact mimic of design, but consistency, compatibility. I think that's important. Sometimes the burden when you're the last one. Last one in is to work through those tricky questions. So we would be looking for that for final design review. Also, the final design plans will specifically note building material and color selections on the elevation drawings. We've heard from the petitioner today, they expect that to evolve from what they've shown us today. So, just a reminder that we want to see those materials not only on a color board, materials and colors board, but also call that specifically on the drawing, so that we all have a clear of understanding as to where those will be applied. Number four, that the petitioner shall consider enhancements and architectural embellishments, materials, color, and or landscaping on that eastern facade with the removal of the dumpsters. I think there's some opportunity to perhaps put in something with a little bit more height to provide a little landscape interest if nothing else on the eastern side. But we're not prescribing, we're just suggesting. Number five, that this is when I mentioned already, petitioner shall consider additional design development around the pedestrian lobby entrance from Perstam South. Number six, there's a typo. The general location and design of signage must be included in the plans provided for final design review. As this is a multi-family development, we don't anticipate a fair amount of signage, but the D downtown has a prescribed location sign band, and so we just wanna make sure we see where they're anticipating that would be applied on this building, if they're even choosing to do a wall sign. And then number seven, further design development and demonstration of how, where the proposed design incorporates those defenseable space concepts will be required at final design review. One of the things that I think I heard you all mentioned in your discussion is perhaps also a elevation or rendering of the streetscape from 12th While it's got a very small frontage on 12th that the context may be from first to third, incorporates the Naples Square 3 and incorporates the parking garage, incorporates a corner of the wind building that that stretch and how that amenities building fits into that context would be a great thing to ensure that we have in the final design review as well. So that was one thing that I heard you speak about. And then the other element that I heard you mention is the petitioner shall consider integrating landscape design of the parking green space on the subject property with the southeast corner of the parking garage property. So those are, those are the nine recommended conditions. Then we want them to be. And maybe you've touched on it. We want to what would like to see them enhance some of the detail, the fine grain detail on the window. Millions railings to break up the massiveness of some of these spaces. Yes. OK. You don't often get 10 comments, do you? We're ready, willing, and able. Preliminary design is where you want the comments. You don't want them at final, right? Better final right better now than we're happy to receive them at preliminary thank you sir and if you wish to come back and show us before you get too far down the road we're we're always here to absolutely look okay we have two speakers on this property first one is Paul Beard. I'm Paul Beard. I'm a resident of Naples Square 3. So I am just south of this building. First of all, thank you for allowing me to speak and here at the public hearing. Usually we do a really good job in Naples of getting notices of public hearings. This one somehow slipped by me. So I don't know if the staff sent out a letter to local residents or not, but I missed it. So otherwise, I would typically do some email feedback. So here I am today. I'm glad I'm in town today, one of the few people. The real concern we would have is there's a lot of discussion about the collective and how the building integrates into that commercial area. But as we talked about in some of the discussion, Naples Square 1 and 3 both of this building, which is full of residents that are currently living there. And I don't know that there's been as much consideration given to the impact on those buildings and their presentation to this building. So I would ask, as we continue to design that building, that that's being thought of more thoughtfully I guess There seems to be very little buffer and Greenway I know I think a staff mentioned in one of your earlier proposals There was actually a lateral park that would be put between our buildings which would buffer that which now has kind of Disappeared and I think at a private meeting in each case of well the city doesn't want anything like that now I don't know if that's was misunderstood or not but I think that we would love to have some more buffer and more greenway between our buildings and then the other concern is this amenity building if you look at it on the plans. This sort of plotted in between the parking garage and our buildings. And there's a two story basketball court, which seems to be a little out of place for those kind of communities. It's 20 feet high. So it's going to be blocking basically any site on our second level of our building. We're going to be looking into a basketball court or a building of some sort. So I think what the major consideration is, I think as we, as a staff, and we look at the design of the building that we take into consideration, naval square, and the impact it is to the residents and those living especially close to that into the building. And we look for more green area and we look at this amenity center and see. I think we could, I'm not an architect, but we could probably redesign the amenities, give the community what they need and still provide more buffer and more room for that green space in between the two. So those are the primary concerns that we would have at NIPXPR. Thank you, thank you. Next speaker is Janine Dowdling. Good morning. Good morning. I'm Janine Dowdall, a resident of Naples Square 3 on the second level. Right at the corner where I'll be looking into the South elevation of this project. It seems they're trying to stuff 10 pounds into a 5-pound sack in this place. You even said shoehorned. I thought that's exactly what they're doing. I feel for the people that will be living in there because they're looking at the giant parking garage on one side and the collective parking garage on the other side. But my main concern is the lack of green space. Naples Square has very little green space and now with this new project, there's not a lot there. There's the absolute minimum of setback of this building. Talking about this proposed service corridor behind the pool units. So on the south side of the collective, there's currently a beautiful paved little walkway So on the south side of the collective, there's currently a beautiful paved little walkway with sculptures, a little sculpture garden. It's lovely, I don't know if you've seen it, but we had always heard that would be connected to 12th Street. So go from 10th to 12th, so people could walk that way and have access to the playhouse. And now that has been turned into like a private on the drawings it shows now they're curving it north and it ends at a door into that garage for this project. Yep, on the bottom left corner you can see that they're taking mad and turning it into a private little thing where it could be a precious gem for Naples because it's so pretty right there. I don't know, they're turning this into a service corridor for four pools and maybe gating it off, it just doesn't make sense to me. The plans calls it a proposed sidewalk to connect to second Avenue South. I don't even think there is a second Avenue South. This developer continues to not provide much green spaces. As I said, Naples Square is promoted as so dog friendly. We have like very little grass for dogs or people to enjoy. This project has a viewing garden and a little dog park. I believe it should have more. Perhaps make it a four-story building and pull it in a little bit. I mean, they've got the absolute minimum of setback. My other concern is that fitness area that's kind of ethereal, we talked about, they're not really saying what it's going to be, why is it so huge? Naples Square has 77 units and our fitness area is about 20 square feet per unit. This is about 200 square feet per unit. So 10 times as much fitness room for these very few units. I don't understand that. Maybe, I don't know, maybe that could be changed and turned into a fabulous green space. I feel like the, all of Naples and the residents could enjoy green space there a lot more than this, whatever it's going to be. I'm going to go to the next floor. Basically, it's just feels too crammed in. Not the feel that a maple should have when you walk around. There's all the gorgeous trees and flowers. This is just very minimal. I guess that's all I've got. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Looking back to the board. Any discussion? I think seeing more detail of that amenity area will help and seeing the view from there. And I'd like to add one more condition after hearing public comment. And I think you very, definitely talked about the relationships to the streets and to the garage and to the collective. And we didn't hear a lot about the relationships to the streets and to the garage and to the collective. And we didn't hear a lot about the relationship to Naples Square. And I think you know, two residents who live, right? She can jowl to you here. They pointed some good points. I think, I don't know how you resolve it, but I think you need to take a look at that whole corridor, where we're being called in the service corridor and the amenity package from across that whole corridor, what we're being called the service corridor and the amenity package from across that whole back of that property in relationship to Naples Square. And whether it's buffering, whether it's a via that runs through there or a reconfiguration of the amenity center. But I think you need to take a look at the relationship of that southern boundary and naval square and come back with a solution that's sensitive to the naval square. We're going to do a nice building back there. All over the ceiling, maybe a 22 foot ceiling, it still wants to be a building. It is slightly taller than the existing storage building that's back there right now. So we feel we're improving the space quite substantially from what's there right now. But I think you need to study and bring it back to us just to see how the relationship works and that you know we're not building a blank wall in front of somebody, bedroom. We'll make sure we address that with some renderings too. So, Leslie, have you got them? I've got the further details and renderings of the proposed amenity area will be provided with final design review, submittal, and the petitioner shall consider the relationship with the shared Naples Square property link. To the southern boundary of the south, To the southern boundary of the property, to the southern boundary of the site, because it's the whole boundary. There's not only the fitness center, it's the whole boundary. Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. Anything else? All right. Go. Go ahead and remove. Chair, if I can just to make sure it's on the record that we did send a notice within a thousand feet of the subject property. We didn't receive any correspondence related to this request. But we do have that on record and of course we will send a notice once again if this comes back for any further preliminary review and certainly for final design review or any other entitlements that would require public hearings so there'll be ample opportunity for neighbors to be involved in any public hearings. I also just like to add in there that I think coming back for a second preliminary would be very helpful with that back building and that relationship instead of coming to final and expecting that to pass through no matter what we see. I think bringing something to us earlier would help a lot there. So you don't get stuck in that. We'll take a look at how we develop those buildings and then we can have conversations with you, privately as individuals. And then if you want us to come back for a second preliminary, we'll evaluate it on an as needed basis. Yeah, absolutely. We're not full board here today. Yeah, absolutely. You come back in final and you know, my boy members may have a very different opinion of it. Absolutely. So when we develop this a little bit, we'll reach out to board members with the design and determine whether we come back for a second deployment area or if you guys are okay with us going to final at that time. And your firm has been very receptive to doing that. And as you know, we have absolutely one of the aspects of our new design review board. We would like to give you folks the opportunity to doing that before we get too far down the road. Absolutely. So I think this is one that probably merits that kind of second look before you get to final. Okay. That being said, do you have a resolution? Make a motion to approve the preliminary design review for petition 24-DRB 20. The 11 conditions. Yes, I'll get there. At 10-80 first Avenue South with the 11 conditions that have been appointed. I second. All call please. Vice Chair Frederickson is absent. Member Haihi. Yes. Member McAid. Yes. Member Orion is also absent in Jeremy. Yes. Thank you. Have a fabulous day. We've been here for an hour and a half. I think we deserve a 15 minute break. So we're in recess. you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you Thank you. We have back in work. Next item on our agenda is going against the 7-E resolution determining the sign of designing the view of the petitions of front-line. The DRB-221. Oops, sorry. A new heart, vascular and stroke institute and attach parking structure and a property owned by Naples Community Hospital Inc. and located at 3507th Street North studio plus presenting. Actually, this is Luke Johnson with Canon Design. We're working in partnership with Studio Plus. Okay. Those are gonna testify please stand and be sworn in. For those who are not previously sworn in. Anybody making comments? Let's do it all at once. Okay? Thank you. It's specific for this. Excuse me. But they're sworn in now, you can speak later. You can do it all day. The words are off. Yes. I'm very familiar with the site and I've reviewed the application Very very familiar with the site and have reviewed the application several times I do I'm familiar with the site and reviewed the application Pony and Majors. Thank you very much. Please identify yourself for the record. No. Yes. I am Luke Johnson with Canon design I'm the project designer on this this project before you So yes, we are here seeking or presenting the, for the final design review, for both the Hasbro expansion and the parking structure, both at the Hasbro campus. I have a few things here in terms of the agenda. I'll briefly go through some design context because I think it does provide some context for everyone. But moving from there, I will keep my comments focused on the following. So what you see here on the slide, these are from the April 26, 2023 preliminary design approval of the project for both the expansion and the park structure. There were the eight comments here so I will try to keep my comments focused and the content focused there. There is much more in here as exhibits that we can bring up and Christian and Ray will also probably the most popular person in the room today. He will also be speaking about landscape to the project and then we will follow up with a short animation that highlights You know some of the kind of approaches to the design overall So just starting with the eight oh, I will also mention some of the slides here that you look at We've had to kind of hide some of the jatation. So we do have kind of the full deck of landscape design here That can we can kind of talk about all the landscape in its entirety. The first comment, the petitioner must obtain city council approval of a rezone to public service and a conditional use to allow for a community hospital and for height exceeding the maximum in a public service district and obtain administration and city council approval of the site plan prior to some middle for final design review board. We have gone through these steps, Ericka. I think we'll go through the staff report, but we have gotten the PAB recommendation and the approval from city council. The petitioner will consider adding trees and additional landscaping to the corner of Sixth Street and Second Ave north to buffer the view of the parking structure. The petitioner will extend the linear planters across the entire facade and minimize the exposure of the wood on the west facade of the parking structure where the upper-story planters are not located. The petitioner will consider reducing the amount of glass on the west and north facades of the hospital, building to be consistent with the south and east facades. The petitioner will provide nighttime renderings of the structures, depicting exterior and interior lighting. The petitioner will soften and enhance the entrance to create a more inviting feel. The petitioner will consider revising the tapering of the shade elements on the upper stories at six and second. And the petitioner will consider revising the tapering of the shade elements on the upper stories at six and second and the petitioner will pay close attention to the slope of ADA ramps. So on the right hand side are some images from the last time we look at the project. Just looking at the project in its entirety, you know, the elements here in orange are what is being presented today. So there is the existing Baker Hospital. The hospital expansion is connected at the second floor in two locations. One, a sterile connection that allows the operating rooms to work seamlessly with the new operating rooms. And a second that allows staff and public to navigate between the two structures. to navigate between the two structures. At the third floor of the hospital, it is connected to the fourth floor of the park and structure. That alignment is just given the different floor to floor heights of the two different building types. The building goes through a lot of design responses, engaging with the Garden of Hope and Courage, but also enhancing the perimeter landscape around the area as well. There's been a lot of engagement with the public, both in forums like this and forums held at the hospital itself. Some of the kind of design elements that came out of that were doubling of the setback from 20 to 40 feet The allowing a 60-foot linear park that is new and allows for the existing You know tree scape to remain and then Christian will talk about the enhanced landscape that then connects it back to the Garden of Hope and Courage These are some important campus sections, so this upper one is what is there currently, the existing Telfer building, with its park structure included will be coming down. The new hospital is designed to not exceed the heights of Baker Hospital and is designed to connect to the second floor. I'll skip these. We've have gone through a number of kind of environmental and kind of thermal studies, wind studies. This was early on in the project to inform the sighting of the building, the orientation of it, understanding the appropriateness of where we opaque materials and glazing, et cetera, would start to land themselves on the overall building design. These diagrams here are just illustrating the number of sun hours that the building takes on throughout a day so that northern faces receive fewer sun hours. So there's a greater level of transparency on the north faces of the overall. And at the east and west, south east and west, there's a higher degree of sun exposure. So one of the key design elements that you'll see kind of wrapping around the building that creates kind of one of the prominent aesthetic elements are these thermal kind of sun shades that organically kind of peel off the building. They're integral to the design language. You can see here they really start to address sun exposure in the summer hours, but in the winter hours when the sun is lower allow kind of winter sun to enter the building. There was a comment, I know it wasn't formalized in the items, but just making sure that we weren't creating kind of a wind tunnel condition between the two buildings. So we have looked at that from a high level, both at wind speed and wind comfort, some things that highlight here. You know, the darker blues here are the heavier kind of wind. You know, there's a lot of vegetation here, and darker blues here, are the heavier wind. There's a lot of vegetation here. And the way the buildings come together creates a calming wind environment at the arrival. And there doesn't appear to be a heightened wind environment where the two buildings come together at the ground floor. In terms of the overall site, so there's a few things happening here. One, from a vehicular standpoint, maybe this is just easier to speak to this one. There's a consolidation, or so we're eliminating two vehicular entrances onto the campus now. One off a second ad at Telford and one off a six street that is rarely ever used. It's primarily blocked off. So it's really streamlined in vehicular traffic along seventh. The existing Baker drop off to remain an entrance to the park and structure at this location. One way drop off loop at the front door that intuitively leads you back to a secondary entrance and exit to the park structure. And pedestrian kind of access around the building is not prohibited. There's an entrance point from Patio adjacent to the auditorium and some of the public functions of the building and also the main doors are located over here. I know we're not here to talk about the programming at a high level, you know, the first floor, the meeting spaces, doctors offices, some physician, like lounge and dining areas, get shot, registration, what you would typically see on the ground floor of a hospital. The second floor, this is the interventional surgical platform, so the new operating rooms. This is that sterile connection back to the existing O.R.s and Baker. This is the other connection that staff and public can use kind of between the two buildings. The third floor is being looked at as the cardiovascular clinic and then the fourth and sorry the fourth and fifth floor are both 27 fully private inpatient beds or patient bedrooms. And then the top floor has a building mechanical room enclosed with air handling units. I'm going to skip the sections and start getting right to some of the comments. And I think they'll be most apparent, sorry, a bit of lag, in some of the renderings as we walk through. Okay, so starting off at the arrival off of North Av, so off to the left hand side here is the front door as the Baker hospital So what you see on the right hand side here is the proposed new parking structure You can see the connection at the third floor of the hospital here The kind of streamlined vehicular Design of the overall campus. So this brings you directly off the campus, kind of straight through under the building. The design of the building is meant to kind of intuitively lead you to the front door so that people aren't kind of meandering or driving aimlessly around the campus. There was a comment about the petitioner considering reducing the amount of glass on the north facades and west facades here to be consistent with the south. So a few things have happened here and I'll go back to one of the previous, the wood material or it's aluminum, but it's inspired by wood looked. Is what it's creating kind of the plinth, the first and second floor of the building, what we've done is we've brought that across the front of the building to address scale, create a more kind of welcoming view and start to reduce the amount of glazing at the plinth of the building as this is kind of the most pedestrian experience levels of the building overall. And then also up at the first floor, sorry, the first floor, the third, fourth, and fifth floor, you can start to see some of the banding here. And that's in the glass samples here. There's two glass tones that are happening here. One is a ceramic white spandrel, and then the second just below that is a gradual ceramic frit which goes from that white and drops off to a vision glass. Those are in the same proportions as the sunshades that are moving around. So that does a few things that helps the energy perform to the building. It helps lessen the appearance of glass. It helps with, you know, it increases the bird friendliness of the glazing tones as they appear opaque more. In addition, there's also on all the glass, we have a non-directional bird friendly frit pattern that's acid etched to surface one of the. So as you get closer, you start to see it becomes more apparent kind of how that all comes together. So you see the wood tone which previously stopped back here as it begins to wrap itself around and re-emerge where it was here and climbs up into the softet overall of the building. And here you start to see the the white spandor zones, the gradual kind of drop off of that to a clear vision glass that's meant to kind of drop off of that to a clear vision glass that's meant to play off of the proportion of the sunshades, the neutral kind of concrete panels that clad the kind of opaque areas of the building. They're done in three different levels that are shown here of sandblasts. So the idea is there is to purposely introduce kind of a variation in this panel. So when you get into concrete design, so because we're not intending to paint the concrete, this variation is intentional in the design so that you don't end up with large chunks that don't maybe match. It's not uncommon when concrete's leaving a plant that the mix isn't. It's the same, but the appearance can sometimes be different. So we actually want to work with that. And so we're introducing kind of smaller scale units in the overall facades there. So if I just hit Escape here. So this is our current design here. Another element that wasn't there is a new kind of pedestrian seating planter that comes off of the edge of the building there again another scaled element. So this is where we were at a preliminary and this is that same experience as you come through. So I think the team is really happy with kind of the scale, the invitingness, the kind of the form and kind of how the building kind of engages these neutral materials overall that are punctuated by much of the landscape. As you get closer, some of these kind of, you really get a sense of kind of the drop in scale, particularly at the arrival here. So the kind of woodcladding as it wraps its way around and starts to identify natural zones for signage provides coverage at the canopy that comes off the building at the second floor. The massing is intended to kind of play off of some of the same data lines that are coming across the existing Baker Hospital here. You get a sense of pairing the planter bed that can also act as a seating bit zone here just outside the front doors. And the kind of, you know, we are tight here on the site, but you know, we are introducing kind of, or defining kind of the vehicular from pedestrian zones. So again, if we look at kind of where we are right now in the design versus where we were at preliminary approval, I think you really get a sense of kind of the, and we've also kind of changed the tone of the wood and gone with a different product. But you get a much better sense of kind of the pedestrian kind of invitingness and the drop in scale to the pedestrian as they come to the front door. This is a space between both existing and new. So these doors here are the exit from Baker Hospital. So Garden of Hope and Courage is just off here to the right that where we just were at the front drop off is located over here. So above you creates those two connections back to the existing hospital. You have the sterile connection back here, the staff and public connection back here. And what we've done is we've capitalized on the space between, you know, you're going to have people coming and going whether they're going to the new hospital or just coming through this zone to the garden, people coming out of Baker Hospital to create capitalized kind of on this opening between the two buildings as a space of respite and enhancing or adding vegetation that doesn't currently exist there. Moving back from the view from there, so now moving into the view from the garden of Hope and Courage, I think everyone is very familiar. There's a large amount of vegetation back here. It's one of the driving kind of factors in the design itself. So, you know, working with, enhancing the landscape here. You know, there was a comment about ensuring that, you know, there aren't steps in that this is an ADA kind of accessible route between so Terry is here And we've worked with the civil team to ensure that there is a fully accessible kind of route through here And I'm just gonna hide that one tree so we can kind of talk about the building as well over here So the idea is Now you start to see the Sunshades come off as they come across the south and the east edges of the building. The kind of wood-tone plinth wraps its way around, creates kind of where the auditorium and outdoor space is here. We've added kind of a garden zone here. Christian could talk about the plantings here and then kind of bringing some of those same lines and kind of materiality across as they come into Baker. So again, if I just go back to where we were at one point. So a number of things have changed here. We've kind of dressed shaping the sun kind of shade device that comes off the top of the building, working with our structural team to ground that into the building and adding more resolution and more termination to some of these kind of wrapping elements. So if I go back to what you see here, you see we've kind of peeled this back, So if I go back to what you see here, you see we've kind of peeled this back, landed the column down and kind of naturally engaged it back into the building here. And then, you know, one of, it was actually this view that started to inform what we'll look at next. But beginning to pull some of these sun-shade devices as we don't need them in the zone up into and started to create a dialogue between the cap of the building and some of these other elements that move around the building. So if you take that same logic over to the corner of seventh and second ad to look at the comment about considering the shade elements that work here last time and I'll go to those first. So looking at the same corner, you know, we had a couple dialogues I think each time we talked about this, about, you know, the fact that the concrete kind of shading elements as they peeled off the building really didn't resolve themselves in a more meaningful way kind of with the building overall. So the idea here is as we bring kind of the roof line kind of down and it creates kind of with the building overall. So the idea here is as we bring kind of the roof line kind of down and it creates kind of the top edge of the bridge and the bottom edge of the bridge it provides kind of a natural termination for the sunshades as they move across the south edge and no longer needed kind of as they move across to the north. The next three renderings here provide a better sense of the evening kind of experience. One of the comments as well to provide nighttime renderings of the final design for exterior and interior lighting. We are not providing a lot of exterior. We are providing what's required by code, but understand this is not an area that we want to really light. It's not an emergency department, you're not coming here kind of in a sense of panic. So really an understanding kind of the placement of it on the campus. The lighting you see would be coming from the inside and we're looking at kind of more of a code minimum approach to building lighting overall. This would be the view from 4th Ave. You see a Baker, existing Baker hospital here in the 4th front. Parking structure located over here, and the new hospital expansion in the background. It gives you a sense of the scale of it kind of with what existing there as well. View from sixth and second. So here you see kind of where the parking structure and the hospital expansion. You can kind of see them both from this edge. Christian will talk about all the landscaping that's going into the new linear park, both the existing Mahagini trees and palms that are there now. Probably do about 90% of the light shading to the park structure itself. In addition to that, the vertical batons, the vegetation that's engaged with the new building or the new park structure are all elements to help with kind of light screening as well. And then you see here the hospital expansion in the foreground or in the background. And then one last evening view here from Seven Street as you're approaching from this area so that I know there are two commercial buildings flaking here. So it gives you a sense of kind of the scale of the building in composition with kind of what's along this street frontage here. Again, you know, a lot of the landscaping at the existing tree foliage at the kind of hope and courage and along the street edge here. at the Guarov Hope and Courage and along the street edge here. Moving to the parking structure, just to reiterate, there are four floors of the parking structure overall. One of the conditions that did come out of city councils to maintain that the top uppermost surface, I'll just go to a section because that'll be the easiest way. The upper most drivable surface is 30 feet within that the public service. So we spoke at Great Lancthead, a number of meetings about this. Over here on the right is a breakdown of those elevations. So the bottom deck is dropping eight inches below that design flood plane. The top deck is at 30 feet so that overall you know height gives us enough room for larger ADA vehicles on the first floor and proper clearance at the underside of structure at the upper floors. The screening there's a six feet of screening that from there that's a six feet of screening from there. That's a combination of the kind of planter wall as it wraps around and the wood vertical batting screenings. So the top edge of those are brought up higher. So they are not seen vehicles from the residential side. One of the other comments is to extend, that came out of the plenary approval was to extend the planters all the way across the building. So we've brought them all the way across. Christian will talk about the planting strategy here. So we have the vines as they move kind of across one edge, the north edge and the south edge. Now you'll see that there's a different planting type here. So the thought process behind that is, essentially this is the zone where the ramp is moving up. We want to, in terms of maintaining the vegetation that's there, the design team's working to do that so that you can actually reach through the openings and design kind of lift up, you know, be able to lift up the batons from the inside of the garage to maintain those, to minimize the amount of folks going up and down ladders and maintaining kind of vegetation within the garden of Hogan Courage. So this is on here that's on the incline of the parking structure and pushing a talk more to this. Those plants require less maintenance, so less pruning, so, you know, given the fact that the ramp is on the inside there, it makes it a bit more challenging to maintain them from the inside out. It's essentially the same vertical amount of vegetation, it's just ones dropping below the planter, ones approach to the park structure. So the park structure has, you know, it's meant to be a continuation of the design language that's at the hospital. So the planters mimic the same kind of vertical height that's in the sunshade and the same materials at the hospital. And we have the vertical batons that are the same kind of aluminum wood tone that's used over at the hospital expansion. I apologize, there are some plantings missing here. Christian has these and he can talk in depth about kind of the plantings at the corner here, because I know that was a point of discussion. And then this gives you a sense of that 60 foot kind of linear garden as it moves across the edge here. And you get a sense of kind of the vines that are in kind of the flat zones and the transition to the vertical kind of bushes, the name is escaping me of them but I know he knows that are in these zones here. One item that we did not present in detail last time we were here for preliminary approval was building signage but this was an item that came up in both PAB and City Council. So I'll walk through the proposed signage locations that are being included here. There are both proposed monument signs and building signs. So the blue elements here would be the building signage elements and I have some more detailed exhibits. They're mostly centered right around the front door. There is one that's elevated, the idea being that as you enter the campus, you don't really see anything that's tucked back here. So the ideas that have an elevated building signage element here that you see as you enter off of the northern most edge of the campus. There is a monument signage at the water fountain, signage at the front door, and then a monument sign just along second half to indicate kind of where to enter the campus from the south. Looking at the building signage 1A, 2 and 3, These would be the elements kind of right along the front door. They are intended to be extruded aluminum with an anamel. Lattering is to be left justified and to be lit, this one is intended to be lit from the back. We did reduce the size of these through City Council at the beginning. They had, they were taller and they extended kind of above the edge of the canopy. So we've worked to align them kind of within the vertical height of the canopy. Then there is a smaller building signage donor recognition at the front door and one for the hospital as well. The monument signage one and two, so this is the one off to the south edge of the campus at the entrance at second and seventh. So it's intended to kind of direct you. It's indicating a few things, you know, Baker Hospital. This is an entrance that you can make your way kind of across back to emergency, visitor parking, and the new hospital. And then one sign engellement integrated at the water fountain that's at the front door. The uppermost one, again, this is a sign intended to kind of invite you onto the campus. It was also reduced in size in a similar fashion. Previously, it had kind of extended above the top edge of the building. We've reduced it and dropped it down in overall size. But you get a sense of it's kind of the size of that signage and scale with kind of the, the both the building and typical pedestrian hicular elements on the site. The intention is that all of that signage is really inward facing towards the hospital. We've gone through lengths to make sure that it's not kind of broadcasted out. There is, there was discussion about that uppermost sign. So this diagram was developed to talk about the vegetation, the park and structure, those elements together really limiting kind of view corridors or visual connection to that one elevated piece of signage on the building. The overall composition of the material palette in the applications talked about. The palette is really intended to be kind of neutral. We want it to kind of continue to age overall with the building. So it's meant to be kind of timeless in a sense, using natural kind of masonry elements and naturally kind of wood inspired elements and the glass that I spoke about. The metals that are on the building, you know, in signage, millions, the top kind of, we're not actually looking at a corrugated metal at the top mechanical room, we're actually looking at a flat panel now. But those are all intended to be consistent in their light silver nature. So basically, the idea here is the building palette is meant to be very neutral, and the vegetation is really meant to punctuate your experience as you move around the building overall. I think with that, let Christian talk. I can pull up your drawings here Christian. And then I can then also, we have an animation, I can pull up your drawings here Christian and then I can then also we have an animation I think as well. Good morning Christian Andre, a landscape architect with architectural land design. I'll just do a kind of an overview and hit the things that we're talking about tweaking and making some changes to. tweaking and making some changes to. So this is the north portion of the site. Our plans currently called for replacing the existing hedge along the west side of the property. Our recent experience with engineering and whatnot that would have impacted that has been reduced. So we believe we'll be able to save the existing hedge in place and not have to replace it. And we're working towards that same end on the north side. So we likely would be coming back for these kind of housekeeping changes. But there's still a hedge around the perimeter, but we just have the benefit of keeping a much larger hedge and maintain it and grow better for the property. So we think that's a benefit. This all is consistent, the buildings consistent. These are planter areas that are same as before. This is the playground in the northeast consistent. These are planter areas that are same as before. This is the playground in the Northeast quadrant that's the existing playground to the south is being shifted north. So all the features that are there, the xylophone and the little toy features that are there in the bench and whatnot are all being shifted up here. They're wishing well. There's a little arbor that comes into the site and then this is all a rubberized surface. And then these are all the ADA or better compliant ramps coming up to the deck here and whatnot so there are no stairs. Perimeter building we have scattered in you know additional trees to try to augment in in fill vegetation wherever possible to help further enhance the buffering. We want to make sure that is successful. We've added some elevation star graphics here so we can look through those in detail. This is coming around the corner, so consistent, same as before. Rapping the southeast corner of the building, again, same as before, the plant mature around the base and whatnot. There are utilities here. So there's transformers and things here that we do not have the ability to screen. So those will be, you know, I'm guessing a six by six kind of green box. Whether we wallpaper it with hedge material or whatever, that's probably the likely solution in that condition because we are, they require access from the street and whatnot. These are the planters that are on the various floors of the building. Previously we just had one vine everywhere. We've since evolved with that thought process to have some variety. We're looking at a mix of Confederate jasmine and the thought is to hang it over, like a curtain coming down. The Asparagus Furn is another. We have situations in the middle of the building where it's hard for one to access through the pickets because of the ramping nature of it. So we're trying to find a plant that basically grows six feet tall and stops. The one plant we're thinking about this point is wild coffee because that seems to fit that blend and trying to reduce operational access from the outside to come up because on the inside you wouldn't be able to trim it. So potentially lift, slatters, whatever, but that's just that central core. And then variegated chef is another option there. So those are things that we're entertaining. Here's an architectural elevation that kind of highlights both the northwest and southwest corners or the Confederate jasmine hanging over the side. The middle section or the first, next third, I guess, we're trying to get a little different color, little change of texture, and whatnot. So they were envisioning asparagus fern, draping over the planters as well. So that's north and south. And in the middle is where we went the other way and put a hedge going up. So instead of a planter going down, we have a hedge going up. And that's where at this point, wild coffee is our suggested plant. And then down below, there's, you know, series of hedges and shrubs that screen the base, the variegated chuffler. Now this is a plan view, and then an elevation view that we kind of drew a tree for tree. Some of these are existing, those are the existing rural palms, and then we're implying our canopy in conjunction with the existing trees that are out there. I didn't supersize like these are califillum trees here those will get 30 by 30 I've got them drawn about 12 to 14 feet tall so in time that will completely consume the building but I didn't want to over commit to the size of that but this is probably a two-year window as far as what we think the vegetation will look like. Again the plan corresponds back to it so we're going to get out. So from a building standpoint, I thoroughly enjoy everything that's there. From a pedestrian standpoint on the west side of the parking garage, I've got some concerns with right now. It looks like you take away the current sidewalk as it runs along that path and kind of mandate that pedestrians walk up against the parking garage a couple times. It really, I feel like that takes away a lot from the pedestrian experience going up and down six street and six street is such an iconic street in this neighborhood to mandate the pedestrians walk up against the parking garage a couple times I think is folly I think that you know I do enjoy the meandering path there but I feel like it also needs to still maintain that initial straight path up six street you know to have both of those I think would be fine, but I think mandating the pedestrians that live in the neighborhood, walk up against the three-story parking garage right there really takes away from the pedestrian experience on six street. So I'd like to see that sidewalk come back. I think otherwise you're gonna see to, you're gonna see some pedestrians instead of going up against the parking garage. They're gonna walk out into the street instead. And there is a bike path there, but I don't think that's the intent. I think the intent is to make it more of an enjoyable pedestrian experience through there. So I'd like to see that sidewalk come back that's straight as well as, if want to keep the meandering part along there as well. But I think that that sidewalk needs to be straight coming through there as well. That's kind of a big piece of my initial thought there. Looking at the most of the plantings there, most of them are existing, the big trees. So I don't think that any of those need to be taken out by maintaining that sidewalk there. So I think that I'd like to see that continue. On that west facade of the parking garage, I think that the corners look really well blended into if you go to the 3D model. Yeah. So those corners look really well blended and they kind of go away. But it looks like the middle has those bright white bands that go through it that you see on the upper ramp parts. I'd like to see those disappear more instead of being pronounced the way that the corners are. The corners, it kind of blends into the surroundings. You don't really see the parking garage so much. But all of a sudden, then you've got these two or three bright white bands that appear. I'd like to see those disappear. And I know that you say you have coffee or something growing up, but there's some way to put the wood texture along that or something to make that go away. So the pedestrians and the people in the neighborhood don't have to see those bright bands. Yeah, these are the finished changes at that zone. I think something needs to happen there so that those aren't as pronounced. there so that those aren't as pronounced. The other big thing that I'd love to see is at the main entrance to the building. You know, right now you have four little, do we be palm trees? And this is such an iconic entrance to this brand new amazing building. I'd love to see a statement tree there. I'd love to see like a banyan tree, a giant banyan tree or something that kind of mimics the garden of hope and courage, but also has a lot more character and interest than just four little palms. I think that you've got a big space there and to put a big, you know, statement tree, like a banion there would really give that whole area a lot more interest and a lot more feel. So I'd love to see something like that happen there. And then lastly, just a small thing for the monument sign on the south side as you're coming in. as you're coming in. Yeah. Having emergency, they're pointing into the parking lot. I realize that, I was saying it. That would be a directional error. I think everybody would, everybody looking for the emergency room would be going into the main parking lot and looking at three different buildings trying to figure out where the emergency room is with no other signage. And obviously the emergency room is with no other signage. And obviously the emergency room's on the other street. So, yeah, I mean, either maybe having it, you know, emergency access off fourth Avenue's north or not or just deleting that so that people know that the emergency room isn't anywhere near there. Otherwise, I think you're going to see a lot of people coming in trying to find loved ones in a panicked state and Having no idea how to find the emergency room because it's it's not anywhere in there around there That those are the comments I have I think overall it's a great design. It's a beautiful building But I think those are some things that we can do quickly and easily here to make it even better Thanks Okay, I was here for your reason here to make it even better. Thanks. OK. I was here for your presentation. Yeah, you were. All of them. And I think we had a lot of great consternation over them when you first brought them here. And I know you had several community meetings. And I can remember one afternoon, spending the afternoon with you guys under the gazebo out there with the community. And I think it listened to us all. He responded. It's been a while since we saw this preliminary. And I told you we wanted to see the befores and after. And even for me, it was shocking to see the difference in the evolution how this building has taken form. Because there were a lot of disparate pieces on the original design, that overhang that was square, everything else was around. I think you've done a great job carrying that base around the entrance. I think if you looked at the previous entrance, that was one of the things we were concerned about. It was glass, it was wood, it was wood, it was no unity to it. I don't think what you've done here is carried the unity of the flow of the curvilinear shapes of these buildings around the base, around all elevations, even though you're not using those eyebrows on all sides of the building, using that threaded glass is very creative. That's a very way of carrying that form around the side of the building that didn't require those sunshades. And that's one of my sticking points. A lot of architects will just use the sunshades as architectural embellishments on the north side of the building for what reason, I don't know. So you're putting them where they belong. And you're statically carrying the, using that fredic glass carrying it around the other sides of the building. Precast concrete, assuming it's precast to the left of the NCH, and just a little bit of, I like the idea of a different sandblasting. That is going to be precast, right? It's where actually between GFRC precasts, statically it's the same, we're going through a straight line. You're not going to point and try to do that on site. No, no, no. Good thing you're here there. I look at that building and it's signs galore. When I'm driving in, do I really need a monument sign that says NCH and a big NCH on the wall? I see them both. I would lose one or the other if you don't need, no, that one. Okay. I understand the one high on the building because here's your coming down the parking lot. Yeah, you want to identify it. And once I'm there, not sure you need the repeated one above the entrance, but okay. And I understand the one above, small one above the entrance is a different don't. So maybe there's a purpose for those three, but I think the publicity of the monument sign and on the wall, quite frankly, I think they just clutter up the building. I lose one or the other, whichever your client feels more important. I think probably I'd leave the monument signed and take it off the wall because there's so much static on that wall anyhow. You've got all your donors on that wall and I'd probably lose the NCH on the wall. I have a question for Christian. I did not understand his, that section that you had with the planters. Was that a section? The section. You were talking about the planters on each floor of the garage. Really didn't understand that one. I'm going to different PDF. I'm going to different PDF. Right, Luke? Yes, you're in the architecture. I can't find it. Pull up. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you That one. Is that a section? Is that a plan? What is that? These are plan views, each one of each floor. So we just, this is second floor, third floor, fourth floor, and over here. So you're telling me that those things are bulge in and out? No, no, no, I'm sorry. I probably should have turned the, that's only on the ground floor. So yes, you are that graphically, I've got that incorrect. This this should not show here This should only be showing the upper rectangle this triangular wedge is this little bottom one on You could you could fuse me because the rendering didn't show that I didn't catch that but you're right Why we while we can we get back to rendering of the parking structure One of the street elevations. That one will be good. I totally agree with this. That was one of my first comments. Those are white bands. They need to go away. They need to plan whether they're paying them out. I don't think it should be wood on it, but I think they should be blending to the background of that. They stand out right now. And they fight the landscape barrier that you're trying to screen the parking garage with. So whether you paint them a neutral color or paint them green or do something, but they shouldn't be white. They should blend into the background of the garage. I think not quite agreeing with Doug on the meandering path. I think that me, even though you're going up alongside a building, I think that meandering path is just going to be kind of an extension of the garden. You've got you wander and meander through the garden and then this linear path of park is kind of an extension of that. I don't have a real problem with with with with the path going maybe it needs to pull away from the wall a little bit more but I think the meandering path could be fairly nice rather than walking along the curb of the street. I think it's a refreshing change so that doesn't bother me maybe as much. Also in the rendering I see all these royal palms. These guys are maybe 40 much. Also, in the rendering, I see all these royal palms. These guys are maybe 40 feet. Big guys. Are these all existing? Are you replacing some of them? Those are all existing, right? They're all existing. Okay. So, you know, and just usually when you're when you're rendered something like that and you're going to plan 15 foot trees, it's going to take 10 years for it to get to that. I want to make sure that we're looking at something that's real. As I said, I think you really kind of responded to our concerns about the form of this building and its relationship to its neighbors. And it was a tight campus. And I think there was some give and take between the surrounding neighbors and the hospital. I think everybody realizes that this is an important improvement to healthcare in Naples. But I think you took the time and the energy and the effort and listened folks and you know both you and your client came up with I think a solution that's a good compromise for the neighborhood and the institution that's there. So I commend you on that. Thank you. Okay. Staff report. Still good morning. Good morning, Eric and planning director. What you have before you today is the final design review for the new hospital and attach garage building for NCH located on their main campus. This project has been through a number of different steps through this process. They receive preliminary design review approval from this board with a number of conditions which they have addressed through this process, they receive preliminary design review approval from this board with a number of conditions which they have addressed in the semiddle that is before you today. They also received approval from City Council, the property was re-zoned to public service. It was previously, I do need to correct a typo in the staff report on page one. It was previously zoned medical downtown, or medical D downtown and a portion of it was in the Naples community hospital. So, or a plan development. So the main campus, the main block was re-zoned to the public service district. They also obtained approval from city council of a conditional use. All uses within public service are conditional. There are no permitted uses. So they obtain approval for the use as a hospital. Also within that, the conditional use council is able to approve a height maximum for this building, and that is because they, in the public service district, a hospital uses community hospital is a use that is defined. It requires that the City Council specifically approve height above the otherwise required 30 feet and also through the review of the site plan. So this project went through the administrative site plan process and then went on for approval of that site plan by review by PAB and approval from City Council. So in their approval City Council did approve the full set of drawings, the site plans, including the height, the location of the buildings. They had a number of conditions of their approval, which the petitioner has also addressed in the submittal that is before each day. So the submittal that you have today is consistent with what City Council approved. And then also addresses the design conditions that this board had at preliminary. We did send out a notice to everyone within a thousand feet. We did not receive any response prior to the publication of this agenda item, but the board has received and I've been copied on a couple of emails that have come in since publication of this item. So those will be included in the record for this item. We have found the submittal consistent with the standards and criteria and also with the current design review handbook. Staff is suggesting a number of conditions which I have supplemented with the conditions I've recorded from the board. The conditions staff was recommending are the petition will make their best effort to preserve the existing mature trees on the site during and after construction. That was a discussion at the PAV meeting, which carried on to a condition from City Council that it's highly important given the landscape buffer that exists specifically at the perimeter of this site that they do everything they can to preserve those trees because you can't plant a 40 foot rope on, you know. And then also the Ptushar will continue to work with the appropriate city departments through the building permit process to ensure compliance with all conditions of the site plan approval. When we issue those sufficiency letters for site plan, you'll often see a lot of informational comments with the intention that, you know, the plans at this level are sufficient, but there are some things we want to look at closer as you go through building permit. So they'll continue to work through that. The third is a right-of-way permit. It shall be obtained for all work within the public right- right of way. And the fourth was that the standard at the conclusion of construction in prior to the scheduling of final inspections. The landscape architect will provide a letter of compliance certifying the installation of the hard-scape and landscape consistent with the approved plans. I have also taken down from your discussion today. Number five would be the positional will maintain the straight sidewalk in the right of way along sixth street north in addition to the meandering sidewalk within the linear park. So that's up for discussion by the board. Sixth is the petition will consider revising the material or bright white color of the bands through the center section of the parking garage west elevation to blend them into the facade and less than their visual impact. Seventh is the four small palm trees at the entrance to the hospital building are lacking. Consider replacing them with a larger statement tree. 8th, the monument sign on the south side, incorrectly, visitors to the emergency department. The sign will be corrected. 9th is the positional will consider eliminating either the large NCH wall sign or the NCH logo on the monument sign they are redundant within the same line of sight. I have any other conditions that we have? We do have one public speaker on this item. No we don't. This is on fire. And that's for F. Sorry. I guess that's it. Christian, you have? Yes, could I have a question on the sidewalk? Is there a, in the, the, the dual sidewalks is okay. We can make it work. We just lose a little bit of landscape with the redundancy and there's still some mandering. If we looked at a hybrid approach, when instead of meandering so severely, and we reduced the meandering, got closer to the right away, would that be a compromise that would be worth considering? Or do you feel that we should keep two sets of sidewalks? Well, I guess my thought was two sets based on, you have that on the south side of the building. You show that you maintain the sidewalk straight as well as a meandering one. I just assume you'd consider you can to keep that same continuity on the west side. Okay. And you know the current sidewalk that's there doesn't alleviate any of the mature trees that are currently there obviously. So hopefully that that buffer would still maintain plus adding what you can in there. Yeah, we can make a work. We just have to respect today's standards about sidewalk proximity trees is a little bigger than it used to be. Like we have situations here where the sidewalks have foot away from a tree which we would never do today. So that probably requires me to meander the new sidewalk a little bit as well just to respect root zones and all that kind of stuff. But we can we can achieve it though. Would you do a new sidewalk there? Would you leave a sidewalk there alone? Recalling, do we have a sidewalk in that section? And a second. There currently is a sidewalk there. Okay, so yeah, in that case, we would keep that sidewalk. Just keep it. The one north of us too, there are plans that show it expanding, but the distance between our street trees and sidewalk. The one north of us too there are plans that show it expanding but the distance between our street trees and the royal palms are too tight so we'd have to go wide skinny wide skinny and we spoke and with staff already not the staff other staff about keeping the existing sidewalk size which is still a little smaller than it is today on new stuff but the pinch factor between the trees just it seems kind of foolish to go wide and skinny and wide and skinny. So we should be able to keep the existing one on. And I don't think it gets impacted by construction, right? I think, yeah, so that West sidewalk is stay as is without any of that. Can you impact your plantments? So we can, we can, in our plant. Can you impact your planting visit all? Does it reduce the amount of? I had some plants out there which just, you know, just I can put some planting in the right away a little bit so I can compensate and create the effect of a meander even though the sidewalk's linear, you know, if I plant some both sides, it makes it kind of interesting. So I think there's a way we can make that work. All right, any other comments? Going back to the layering on the parking garage and the side of that, I think I don't know if it's going back to Confederate Jasmine in the center, which helps then spread over it or if you're changing the material. But I think, with the comments said, with that material, it's going to take a little time for it to actually spread over it. So maybe that whole shelf is looked at as being either painted or more neutral until that fills in over top of it. And then you don't have that bright white showing through because it's just hard to get a vine to immediately spread over it but I appreciate you know going to the keep both sidewalks so I think that just serves a function of you know those who are actually utilizing it from a street sense but also those who are part of using as a facility and extension of the garden. So I like that combination. I, as far as the Banyan tree comment in the front, I mean, I enjoy the larger specimens. I don't know if Banyan's the right one because that can have some maintenance or potential things with it. But I also, it's important to keep the open circulation of views to the front of that entrance. So I don't know if there's another way to enhance it a little bit more substantially with the palms there or incorporate a statement tree and other locations, but I mean, that's my opinion on that front entry comment. I think graphically the image that was had like Christmas palms to look like rolls, but rolls are significantly bigger so you have a lot more presence. So I think that Photoshop image didn't adequately represent what rolls would look like. But we can look at alternatives and see what we can do to create, you know, suitable masks in that area. Because in Jupiter, your landscape plan for that area up again seems to me when I agree with you when I saw the rendering, you know, they're just sticks, but it looked like you had a cluster of three or four palms that formed like a grove. And there was like four, I think, on the back side of the water feature. Yeah, it looked denser than what we're seeing in any of it. And there are palms across the drive aisle from again. So there's one, two, three, four rolls back there. And then the rolls continue along. Let me go to a bigger shade here. I guess one of my concerns also is the amount of royals that we're putting in there. I know that we're trying to alleviate royals in the city. And so punching just royal after royal after royal. I'd like to see something different. If we did something different, the water feature would have to change as well, which we can entertain that view as well, just the canopy over water is usually problematic for maintenance. Yeah. And I honestly, I didn't even realize that's a water feature piece. It doesn't say anything and there's no, you don't see it at all. So I didn't realize that was a water feature. Yeah, but we can revisit it and see if there's opportunity to introduce. Canopy is the goal a lot these days. So yeah. So we can see what we can look at there. Yeah, cuz I don't see anybody I mean it looks like a nice water feature except for the fact that nobody's gonna be walking around that they're gonna be driving around it So I'm not sure exactly what a water feature You know does for that area Unless there's a fountain or something like that that shows a visual interest, but it looks like just a pool, right? Is there maybe potential to add a tree or canopy where that pedestrian, the new pedestrian canopy where the existing Baker hospital and that seating area where it would provide some shade there? Maybe that's a good location. Yeah, where you have space there if there, I don't know if there's utilities in there, but that might help and you kind of have that blank wall for the existing building? We were just talking Ficking maybe moving the donor signage from here to here and losing this one We're taking it off the top of the game. I like that. Sorry, we were suggesting Visiting moving the donor signage at the canopy fascia to replace the signage at the canopy fascia to replace the hospital logo. I like that. That might be a good move. Good move. It's a good move. Talk to me about it. The water feature there. It's behind that monument sign, right? Yes. And it's just a pool. Yeah. It's a raised pool. Oh no, there's no fountain or no waterfall or anything. It's just a raised pool. Yeah, we probably a raised pool. There's no fountain or no waterfall or any, just a raised pool. Yeah, we probably need to introduce, there's a pond, so we probably need to introduce something, vertical movement in the water. There's going to be some vertical movement in there, something spraying up in the air. Yeah, so that doesn't make it, you know, Christians write a canopy tree that can get leafy and messy into the water feature. But it'd be nice to get something more dense there. Now, again, I had no idea there was even a water feature there. It doesn't show anything and there's no fountain sprue out of this. I'm sorry. Anything else? If not, I call for a resolution. I make a motion to approve the final design review, petition 24-DRB21 for the new heart. This vascular and stroke institute and the attached parking structure owned by a Naples community hospital located at 350 seventh street in North with staff contingencies. And wait for the second segment. Second. I didn't know if they were going to go over the contingencies, but again, if we're clear on all those. Okay, roll call. Okay, number there are nine conditions. Did we change the line before we? I can do those. Okay, roll call. Okay, number there are nine conditions. Did we change the line before we? I can do that. Okay, we do again. One is the district will make your best effort to preserve the existing maturaries on the site during an after construction. Two of the district will continue to work with the appropriate city departments. The appropriate city departments through the building permit process to ensure compliance with all conditions of the site plan approval. Three, a public right-of-way permit while she'll be obtained for all work within the public right-of-way. Four, at the conclusion of construction and prior to the scheduling of final inspections, the landscape architect will provide a letter of compliance, certifying the installation of the hard-scape and landscape consistent with the approved plans. Five, the petition will maintain the straight sidewalk in the right of way along Sixth Street North in addition to the meandering sidewalk within the linear park. Sixth the pedestrian will consider revising the material or bright white color of the bands through the center section of the parking garage west elevation to blend them in to the facade and lessen their visual impact. Sixth the four small palm trees at the entrance to the hospital building are lacking the pedestrian will consider replacing them with a larger statement tree. How did we resolve that one? I think we want to modify the white bands. It's not only in the center. It's on the entire western facade. I think that is great about a point that those cascading vines will not be immediate. And then how did we resolve the four small palm trees at the entrance to the hospital? I think now that we know there are royal palms and there's a water feature there. We don't know where we're going to sit. Okay, but that tree there? Okay. Yeah. Maybe look at reducing the royal palms on the side. They're introducing more canopy there. But yeah, and I- Maybe a couple more shade trees in other areas. We'll consider replacing some of the royal homes in the entrance area with canopy trees. Well, the entrance drive by Baker-Hastel. Okay. Entrance area to the north. We had to carry to the north of the entrance. Two, but okay. to the north. To the north. To the north. To the north and the entrance. Two. Okay. And then the monument sign on the south side incorrectly directs visitors to the emergency department. The position will correct the sign. And then nine. The position will consider eliminating either the large NCH wall sign or the NCH logo sign on the monument. NCH logo on the monument sign. They are redundant within the same line of sight. The particular consider relocating the donor wall sign to the NCH wall sign location. That was their suggestion. And the adjustment to the emergency arrow. Just to make sure. Yeah, yeah, we got that. Got it. OK. So like a modified your resolution. No, it was the same. Well, we did modify just a few. Well, I just said with staff conditions. Okay. Staff conditions. One year or second. Second. Well, please. Vice Chair Fredrickson, who is absent. Member Hagi. Yes. Member McCabe. Yes. Member Orion, who is absent and Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you so much, folks. Do you have a question with regards to our plan changes? Are we only dealing with staff or do we come back with the re-landscape free to review? I think just staff. Yeah. Delegate. I like it. Thanks, everyone. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Delegate. I like it. OK. Thank you. Great lunch. We do have lunch in the back, yes. OK. We're going to take a lunch break for half an hour, 40 minutes. And then we'll be back for the last year. OK. We're in recess. you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you We are back in order. Next item on our agenda is 7F, which is a resolution for the purpose of the petition 24-DRB-22 relating to final design review of a new multi-family development on a property owned by YB Gulf Shore 1 LLC and located at 3300 Gulf Shore Boulevard North. MHK presenting. I have you been sworn. I've been sworn previously and I still will tell the truth. It sticks for 24 hours. Yes. Identify yourself with a record please. Okay. Matthew Craig with MHK Architecture. 2059 Tammy and me trail east. Disclosure, oh, sorry. I have been to the site and reviewed the application. I've been to the site and reviewed the application. I'm familiar with the site and reviewed the application. Thank you. I did review my notes from the last ERB hearings and I think all three of you have seen the preliminary. To give you an update on the history, we started out with preliminary design. Because of the size of the project, you had made some recommendations. There were some facade tweaks. You had made the recommendation that we work on those a bit, come back for a second preliminary, which we did do five months ago, say. And we're through the site plan application process now. We are into getting ready to jump into construction documents. We did receive unanimous approval from the board for the first preliminary and lots of kudos on the second preliminary with the updated changes. I think you'll see in the design we've taken the buildings to an even finer point of detailing, you know, picking the stones and changing some of the brackets designed to something a little bit different than we've done before that we really like really working on sealing designs and so forth. So this has been this is a real model of a three step DRB process and I think it's been great for us. So we appreciate your comments. Just going to give you very quickly site orientation diagrams we can come back to these, but we are north of doctors pass here, 3,300, Gulf Shrubel of our north. We are on the Bay side, not the Gulf side. The site is 3.07 acres and it is zoned R318. We can do, according to the R318 district, we can do 55 units. We have a total of 51 units in the project. Just another shot for context. Another context shot. I'm happy to come back to these if you need to. But this was the original design party, if you remember. We really looked at view corridors. We've got, you know, the nice thing about this district is the buildings based upon their height have set back, increased set back criteria. So on a project that really is Bay-orientated, we actually have that public access on the northwest side that we know will be there in perpetuity. So we took advantage of that with the North Tower. So you probably remember that. We have a stack of two units on the North side and then a double loaded building on the Southeast side. And these were the unit orientations. I think Mr. Ruby had said this was a really good example of good urban design originally. So we were excited about this. And we have stuck with this program through. And so we basically on the west tower, which is in, actually, I want to get a color. Actually, this is easier to see right here. This is the typical third level, third through seventh level. There are 11 units stacked. It's two units per floor on the north, let's call it the west building. And then the east building has a total of 40 units. So a total of 51 units here. None of that has changed. We do have a parking garage that is one level that is sandwiched between the buildings, that it is detached slightly. This is our lot coverage diagram we're allowed because of the building height. So the beauty of this zoning district is the taller you make your buildings, the less lot coverage you can have. So for instance, I think we presented Rosewood earlier, it had like a close to a 30% lot coverage because we're 12 feet taller per the zoning district here. It's 75 feet in less 50% of your parking for the entire project can be under the building, which we have in this case, you can get another, achieve another 12 feet height. The nice thing about that 12 feet is, it doesn't give you another story. It allows you to have decent ceiling heights where, you know, if you look at the beach club they've got you know 14-foot ceilings and so forth and that is part of the competition you know from sales perspective and this allowed us to go in the 11 11 foot four range for ceiling heights versus a barely getting a 10-foot ceiling. So we're at 11 foot 10 floor to floors you can see on the section to the left, we have to take about eight inches out for the slab. So it leaves us about 11 foot 2 floor to floor, which we think is very appropriate for this type of project. So we are 87 feet from the required FEMA elevation, which is 12 feet N A V D. Our first floor height is at 10 foot 8 inches. This is a diagram that shows the West Building in outlined in red and how it fits within a 200 by 200 foot box, which is part of the requirement. And then the East Building also fits it within that 200 by 200 foot box. And then the parking garage there, it's one story. The code allows a separate one story garage of up to 10% lot coverage. And it ties the buildings together on the first level only. And I have some nice illustrations to show you how that works. Originally, we had the generator on the south side of the project, south of the East Building. And we heard from some of the neighbors early on in the preliminary DRB and so forth and also from staff they wanted the generator within the primary setbacks. So we have moved the generator to this to this spot that creates an architectural element in that one story garage and it is a separate structure. So this is a little diagram that just shows how that fits in there, but it's screened visually and it just becomes a nice architectural element. So this generator location will, if those generators turn, really only affect the units themselves and not the neighbors, which we thought was a nice key. Because this is a final designer view board, we've worked hard on the lighting. We kind of created this rule and rhythm on the exterior elevations with our architectural brackets, which span two stories and really bring the scale to building down. Any time that there's a bracket that is not over kind of an open stone cladding area. We have an up light only that's going to accent those brackets and we're building that light in the detail into the aluminum bracket itself. So it's going to be, it's not like a separate light detached shining up. It's actually sitting in the bracket and shining up. We're working through that detailing. Anytime we have brackets that are over the stone cladding areas, we are going up and down to give that building some cool... One of the things I love, I don't know if you've seen the AC and A.C. Maryop, but I'm really proud of the lighting there. That's one of the things we really strive. I think it can make or break a building. If I'm on the west side of Galschra Boulevard, like some of the other projects, and it's coastal construction. I can't because of the turtles, but in this scenario I can make this really beautiful, so I'm excited about that. So that's the basic theme for the lighting. Basically up down wherever there's stone and just up wherever there's no stone. And I'll breeze through there. So I'm going to hit some of the renderings here. This is kind of a massing study. You can see how the two unit tower looks over that public parking area and then the east tower looks over the bay and how that renders in, massing wise. We love how the towers broken into two different masses. This is another shot from like an aerial at the front of the project. And how the building is on a skew, we love that force perspective up Gulf Shore Boulevard. This is another shot from the pedestrian level. You can all have Christian talk about the landscaping, but we have a very dramatic, nice rhythm of landscaping. There's actually kind of like a dog walk area in the setback area that you can kind of see in this image because the pool is slightly elevated to hit the amenity level of this building, but between the right of way and where the pool starts, it's a beautiful kind of park area for the residents. You can see how the ceilings really play an integral part into this design and we've worked on pattern orientation to really define what's an overhang and what's just part of the actual footprint in those ceilings. We are working with Hardy Boys on an actual custom color for this at which the renderings do show. We've done houses with them where they've made custom color for this, at which the renderings do show. We've done houses with them where they've made custom colors for us before, and we love that product. It lasts forever. Another shot, the pool area, the glass detailing is very minimal around the railings and so forth. This is kind of a bird's eye shot, again. It kind of shows everything in context with the pool area and so forth. This is kind of what I would call the money shot. The project is you're entering at the main signage and coming through the gates. You can see if you remember we did this, this slight angle of the building because the property is on a skew with the water but we we aligned this on center, on axis, with the front entry. We wanted that kind of cool perspective as you drive in, and then the nice massing to the right, and then obviously the nice massing to the left with the other building. We really worked hard on these stone areas from the preliminary to the second preliminary, and further detailed today, it is a porcelain tile that has very cool kind of striation pattern through it in a horizontal that feels like a material of today, but helps the buildings blend and be subtle. We also looked at matching the brackets in the storefront with a customized color. It's a It's not an anodized aluminum. We don't like that look that looks too industrial. It's a it's an actual kind of our finished paint that's kind of between a silver and a gray And we felt that blended in we actually worked hard with the interior design team on that they're better at colors than I am that blended in we actually worked hard with the interior design team on that they're better at colors than I am. I think you mentioned that the hospital project you wanted to see a big banyan tree so we have that on this project. We've had that from day one we've always felt that this is going to be a big part of the project that sense of entry that plaza. We have a kind of, a kind of porcelain tile actually has a physical texture in this lower area along the garage in the lower area of the building kind of creating like a water table. That's the generator enclosure you can see above that kind of defines the entry into the garage. Christian can talk about paving patterns, but we really love how this sense of entry is really turning about as you come into the project and get dropped off if you're a guest or park your car in the lot and walk to the front with connecting sidewalks. It's another view, kind of bird's eye view, showing the parking area and how it relates to the buildings. Right down to the last detail of the Spellia type plants going up walls so you don't see blank walls in areas and so forth. Really worked hard with our team in a design shred to fill all the gaps. This is a view of the rear pool from preliminary design review board. I can't remember exactly how much we moved it but the neighbors to the south had complained it was a little close. We, I think we moved about 14 feet, I think, to the north, somewhere between 12 and 14, and added more landscape between the property line in here. You can see we also added a cool water feature along the wall of the ground floor of the building to create a little bit of white noise as well. And Christian did a great job of making sure the landscape kind of grows up that water table on the backside. This is another view kind of from that water feature looking back out to the to Dr. Sbae in the pool area and the boats that will be behind it. This is a shot near the fitness center on the first floor of the Northwest Tower, kind of looking back towards the other tower. As we were setting up cameras, we really liked just the way that this project interacts with your eye. I think from a photography type standpoint, it plays well on all these angles, which we love. It's more of an evening shot. The only thing I wanted to mention in this one is we worked hard on that west tower here, where the main views are out at the golf. But we put in really cool club rooms on the design of these units that look out over the bay as well. So those units there on that north side kind of have bay and golf views, which it's pretty cool because we stepped the other building back to the south a bit. This is another view of the building with basically all the bells and whistles that you guys gave us from the preliminary DRB twice. Kind of a sunset shot. I was joking with my graphics guy. I don't know how a sailboat gets under that bridge, but everything looks pretty good. I guess you could take the mass down. This is our color palette. Again, this is the main stone accent that's on all those stone elements around the building. It's a porcelain facade accent panel. It's got the striations in there. It's very subtle though. We looked at several. And then this is the lower plaza that I talked to you about that actually has that little texture in there. The rest is stucco with some muted colors that really go with everything and then our soft material. So it's really kind of monochromatic but just enough contrast. With that, I'm gonna have Christian come up, talk about the hardscape and the landscape, and I'll answer any questions you may have. Good afternoon, Christian Andrea, landscape architect with architectural land design. I'll fly through the pictures or plans that aren't really relevant, but we can come back if there are any questions. This is an overview of the site. Starting in the Northwest corner, this is the pool that Matthew mentioned. We've got a nice plows and deck area around that. This is elevated, I don't know, seven, eight feet or something I think above the yard. We have a water feature down here in that wall to break that up. We have a trellis as a focal point on the south end and then we have landscape focal points that I'll get to in a little bit. This is a roof deck here and this is covered with artificial turf and we're envisioning using different colors and textures to create these different shapes to provide a little geometry, a little interest looking down on. These areas identified as M are elevated planters so we have shrubs and trees in those locations. As I come around the east side this is a bachibach court and a pathway system that connects to the dock and boardwalk fire pit element centered here trellis on the north side of the pool here nice long lap pool here another water feature down here and then a pathway that leads us back to the motor court and parking area. Paving wise this is all permeable pavers up to this location so this whole southern piece and then north of this is conventional pavers and the pool deck is nice I think artistic pavers I think is what we're doing. I think that's pretty much it there and this is actually the color coding of the various materials so right now we're talking about an artistic paver shell lock for the pool deck, pink product air. The yellow represents the permeable papers and then the brown represents conventional. These are the color schemes and pallets we're trying to complement each other. There are slight differences between the two papers. And then the lower pool deck is also artistic papers and then back to conventional papers for the walkway. There is a service maintenance path along the north side that connects from this little gate here and there is a fence system across the front. So this yard here can serve as a dog park or a little private area. So the residents can walk through and get all the way back to the bay back here. These are dimensional plans of the pool area and drainage and whatnot. South area, same with the southeast pool. We have some jets that are emitters that are found in features that make the rear pool a little more interesting. Go back. And then this is a wet wall water feature here that Matthew had in the renderings. This is the Batchie court and the walkway system. The gates, we tweaked a little bit, turns out you need a little more structure than we had drawn previously, so we added some vertical elements to give a little more strength to that. Signage element for that entry median, that's what we're envisioning. Details, water feature details, a buzz through the planting plant. So in big picture we have have kind of a conate or an allay of royal palms across the frontier. Interspersed between that, I have a Japanese blueberry tree, which is a medium-sized tree that goes every other between it. A focal point of a pandanous palm, which is called a scrupine on both north and south. There's that little trellis structure, the royals coming across. These walls have alternating Confederate jasmine and Bougainville along that wall facade disoffent. The entrance is Sylvester Palms. As a focal point coming in, we've introduced canopy trees wherever we can. So there's large live oaks right here, parking lots and live oaks. This buffer here has got royals with live oaks in between, and then this is the banyan tree that Matthew mentioned. And in this plaza area, this is a like a giant motor court, plaza pedestrian as well. And these are cal film trees set in grade level planters in that plaza area. And then we've used ballards to help to find the circulation path of the motor court there. And then these are the elevated planters that are on the roof deck with Christmas palm, or I think Christmas from Montgomery palms. In the back, these are Montgomery palms here, royals, and then back to Montgomery palms again. And then these sheets are detail and largements of that South property line. These are green button wood, a mass of cabbage palms, create a little more vertical privacy. This is a vera wood, a yellow flowering tree that we're using a little bit more these days. This is that southwest corner with the Royal Oak scenario. The Sylvester is coming in, signage element, the Oaks. North property line, this is that boulevard of royals, both sides. This is a clean lawn area, so I think it's gonna have a pretty neat presence when you're down in that space. And then we have hedges for privacy along the fence line. And then the North Lot line is a series of cabbage palms in green, button wood also to help create a staggered buffer. And then these are those raised planters. This is not accessible by homeowners. This is purely a visual space and only maintenance would have access to this area. Northeast Quadrant, a continuation of that buffer. Again, a focal point of a pandanis here, among gummeries that I mentioned, the royals. Along the building facade, we break it up with some legustrums and a variety of shrubs, coca plumb, green variegated chef, and things like that, that alternate. There's the vaniensry here. And then some load, mid-level ground cover and shrubs within these planters around the base of the building. The buildings got some attractive tile and stone detailing, so we didn't want to block that too much. Southeast corner. We kept the buffer tall here with the cabbage palms, and then we dropped to keep it a little shorter here, so these are just calfilms here. Some Montgomery poems inside that just wrapped the two sides of the pool deck. That water feature, and then the foundation planning around the base of the building. Plant list, plant palette pictures. Sight lighting plan, so this shows the photo metrics. And these are the fixtures that we're proposing. This all-cott style for the street lights. And then the ballards, we've got two different kind of ballards. One are these guide ballards, and one's a little more structural. Actually, I'm sorry, this is the second one. That's more conventional with the light in the top of it, shining down. These guide ones, we think, are pretty native. They've got like an LED light strip on the side that illuminates the side and Some landscape lighting so we're up lighting Pretty much all of our trees so we've we've uploaded it pretty well and then also along the back So then we've used smaller fixtures along the back to up like the legustrums and That concludes my presentation. Thank you And that concludes my presentation. Thank you. That concludes both our presentations. And happy to answer any questions you may have. Go. You know, I've kind of maintained my position on this project throughout. I think it's extremely well done. I love the design. I love the situ- how it situates on the property and takes advantage of a lot of the better points of the property. I think every step of the way, it's gotten better and better. I don't really see anything at this point that I could even talk about improving on it. I think it's great. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, I think agree. Improvements each time. The generator, I think that helps solve that concern of the noise there. And I appreciate the way you've incorporated a lot of great details from I love the materials and the subtlety on the materials. And then the different details with the garage doors, the fencing gates, and excuse me, the blank wall using some of the trellis scene. So I think you've definitely layered it and created that very intricate detail to it in so many different ways. And you know, I know last time I commented on extending the buffer to the south, so it looks like you guys did add and extend it. So I think we're doing a better job than layering it. There are a lot of palm species here with the royals though along that street does have some. I think you've tried to incorporate canopies where you have the space to mix it, adding the oaks between the palms. I think allows them to have both species mixed in as a nice effect and then keeping the dog on with the double row. And really I think the species mix is a beautiful mix in different colors and textures. So I think you've definitely done all the right path to improving in our comments from last round. Thank you very much. A couple of questions, ma'am. Sir, I can get to the ground floor on the western building. A question of what froze on me here. The parking level or Okay. There's a little room to the southwest of that parking area with two things in it. What is that? Right there. What is that rule room? Oh yeah, that's the pool equipment for the pool that's for the pool. Yes sir. And you've done steering closure is one for both buildings down in the south. It is. It's here. It has to be within the 15 foot set back and we've landscaped heavily around that. So it's okay. That's the only thing that I didn't quite understand how that little room was for. You picked up all the comments that we've had and I appreciate that you came back for a second preliminary and I think that was useful. It allowed you to get in the greater detail without fending us. The one question I do have is the up and down on your brackets, you say you're building it into the bottom of the bracket and you're doing the same where it goes up and down. So it's just a different fixture. So it is like a round cylinder fixture. It's just we're attaching it a round like a cylinder fixture. It's just we're attaching it to the bracket architecturally instead of the building. So when it goes down, it shoots down off of that and shoots up. Okay, so they're going to look consistent. It's just the light will be different. That's all I was concerned about. Yes, I'm concerned. I love what you're doing with the ceilings and the use of the hardyings and the use of the already in following the profile of the roof. That little subtle detail. And that's the thing that the project that you brought Mark brought before us this morning. That's the kind of thing you really need to start doing with that project. Sure. To begin to get to this level. That's right. And it's not major changes and pushes about a lot of detail that enhance it. I think there's a perfect example of doing that just the way you've used the stone and you've course the stone out and you've thought everything through at a level of detail that sometimes these big buildings left on resolved until you start building it. That's right. And so I think when it's done that refined, that will show. It will. Yeah. So I didn't have no comment. So it's at every point. Good afternoon for the record. Leslie Delmer, the city and April's playing department. My resume and qualifications are on file at this petition, and I've been previously certified as an expert in planning and zoning matters. The item 7F on today's agenda is an application for final design review for a new multifamily development on the property located at 3,300 Gulfshore Boulevard North. As Mr. Craig mentioned in his remarks, this board has seen this project at two different preliminary design review applications and the design has evolved as it's gone through that process of preliminary design review and site plan review. The site plan, the accompanying site plan petition was found sufficient in March of this year. And so the design is before you for final designer view. As Matthew mentioned in his remarks, it is a multifamily development with 51 residential dwelling units and associated amenities. Consists of two residential structures, the East Building and West Building with dwelling units over ground level parking. A service parking lot in the southwest corner provides additional uncovered parking and an on pool grade is located adjacent to the East Building. The remainder of the amenities are centralized on the second floor of the West Building. building. Staff's review of the architectural plans, landscape plans, signage location plans, site lighting and fixture plans resulted in a finding of consistency with the, with section 2-479 and the designer view handbook. Should the board approve the request, we've included two conditions of approval, which is the standard condition with respect to the landscape architect providing a letter of compliance, certifying the installation of hard-skip and landscape consistent with the plans. And second condition that is a reminder and a carryover from preliminary that the docs are part of a separate review will be considered as part of a marine permit at the time of building permit review. We did send out a notice within a thousand feet of the subject property. We did not receive any written communication. I had a phone conversation with one neighboring or concerned area resident. And then I do believe we have some public comment today. Staff's available for any questions. Okay. Any other comments? today. Staff's available for any questions. Okay. Any other comments? Actually, just one. With regard to the parking spaces you've got outside the gates. Is there also a pedestrian gate to get into the community from close by there? Yes, there is. There's a gate, pedestrian gate right here where that sidewalk is and the code requires four spaces outside the gate. It must be for visitor something. Yeah, I just didn't see the gate to get back in so I was just making sure that was there. That's all. Okay, we have one speaker, theater hall hall. We have one speaker, theater hall hall. Have you been sworn in sir? I have. Okay. This is great. I love your comment about the end of the tree from the hospital. I would do it. It would be like a star on a Christmas tree. Anyway, I'm theater hall hall hall. I live in moorings at 3215, called Sharable Report of Art North, across the street from this project. The concerns that have gone through my mind have to do with strict compliance, with setbacks and with building heights. Frankly, I was a little confused until just about lunchtime as to these buildings that higher than the base value of the maximum height. Apparently, there's a mitigating factor and an increase allowed due to parking of X amount of your parking spots below grade in the buildings. That being tried and had a chance to confirm that, but in the broader sense, and especially with the migratory nature of almost everyone who lives in Naples. We rely very heavily on this board to protect our interest to the extent that a strict compliance with heights, setbacks, and all other consideration in these buildings, particularly a building on a greenfield site with a fresh broad of paper on the desk. Compliance can be done on such a building greenfield site with a fresh broad of paper on the desk. Compliance can be done on such a building without too much issue. Hite can be mitigated by number of floors, by height of ceilings and the rest. The concern for the height, at least in my case, hinges, in part to things like that mural right behind you where that's why we're in Florida. The view, everything down here is the view and the further away you get from the view, particularly sunset, the less the value of the building, the less the value of the residents. the less the value of the residents. Everything that goes up and every inch that a building goes up creates a bigger shadow, blocks a little more view and has an impact on residents in the area. And frankly, in this case, because it is so close to the beach, it has an impact on the wildlife, particularly turtles. So the lighting features come into play. And to that extent, the less the lighting, the better the thing for the environment. So because my wife and I frankly go in and out of town regularly, I would ask you that you keep compliance because my wife and I frankly go in and out of town regularly. I would ask you that you keep compliance with existing codes in mind as you proceed. If a code's not to the liking of an individual, a corporation, or anyone else who might have an impact, a profit impact, whatever impact, it would be more appropriate to change the code than it would be to issue variants on it. So that's about all I have to say except I would like to add a little off to the side. The presentation and the appearance and the whole all that went with the hospital edition looked wonderful. For some people that may be the last hope they have, it should look nice. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. Any other comments? If not, I bring it back to the board. I'd like to make a motion to approve the final design review for if this thing will work. It's not working. Can't. Can't get out. Everybody. Can't. There it is. All right. Finally, I have an extra. I'd like to make a motion to approve the final design review for petition 24 to ask DRB 22 relating to the property at 3,300 Gulf Shore Boulevard north with staff contingencies. A second. Go call please. Vice Chair Frederick Sen is absent. Hello, please. Vice Chair, Patrick Send is absent. So, Member Haji? Yes. Member Mikaib? Yes. Member Orion is also absent and Chair Ruby. Yes. Thank you. And Kudos to the board and the process. It made this a much better project for us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next, if any agenda is item eight, is there any public comment outside of these hearings? We're done with our hearings. If I don't hear of any, item nine, corresponds to communication, staff. Do you have any issues to bring before us? communication staff? Do you have any issues to bring before us? We'll probably have more of a discussion in August, but I think we're going to begin a practice at the end of every meeting just to inquire who will be available at the next month's meeting and who will not. So if any of the board members present today will not be available at the August meeting, please let us know as soon as possible. That way we can try to, you know, garner a quorum. But if we don't know until the last minute, then we don't know. So, yeah, I think it's- Please provide us your availability. As soon as you know, you will or will not be at the meeting. And if you can copy Erica and I so that there's a double check on that. Yeah, you can't let Erica and let me know 15 minutes before five on Tuesday before DIV evening. It's unfair to them. It's unfair to the applicants who, as we know, the process takes time to run through the process and when they're tripped up and going to continuance, it delays them month on a half. And we all, in the development process, in the, as architects, as professionals, we know that that sometimes is very critical to those applicants. We want to be fair to them. You know, we're, I know we're here on a voluntary basis, but if we sign up to sit in this seat, we need to have respect for both staff and the applicants as well as the public. So we have to take our responsibilities seriously. Make sure we have each session. Okay. Thank you. Any update on the D.I.B. Handbook? I do not have an update for you today. I believe that this will be discussed by City Council when we reconvene after summer recess. Okay, so it's, I know. It is on the on the radar. I know that there was going to be something brought on and agenda. Some City Council. It was. Yes. The June 19th meeting was I believe we left here at 10 p.m. So it was not heard then. So it's be here in August. Okay. Yeah, it just will be for my purposes. Will the three of you be here in August? August 28th is the date. Yes. Okay. We shall have a corner. We will to that point need four because we will run into the same project. So yes. I think we'll be fine. I think we'll be here. Definitely. Okay. The business, all you have a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Second. All in favor? All right. We're just great. Yeah. Thank you. you you you you you you you you you you you you you you