Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. this morning an indication of the given by our touch to Senator Michelle French and our pledges will be led by the sheriff will Travis will you please stand. Go back with me. Heavenly Father, we come to you and we thank you so much. We thank you for the your mercies that are new every day. We thank you for your blessings and for your grace upon us and upon this county and upon all those who are here today. We ask for your wisdom and for your discernment. We ask that you'll help us in whatever decisions need to be made today that all would be righteous and true in your name we pray. Thank you. The American flag, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Texas flag, honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God. Thank you item one is for public input for items not listed on the agenda if there's any member of the public that would like to address Mr. Court we ask that you please complete a public comment form available on the side table. I want to remind everyone to please turn off your cell phones and hagers. We have one public comment form from Mr. Wille Hadsworth. That's with us this morning. Will, if you want to come on up to the podium, good morning. Is that microphone on? If the little red lights on, the microphones on. Okay. Judge and commissioners, my name is Wille Hadsworth. I live at 623 Newton and Denton. I'm here to speak to you today on two about two situations. First is I want to thank you all that supported our LULAC and NABLA CPS efforts to try to make sure that our first responders and the community develop a relationship with each other so that we, the hope is that we will be able to make sure that we are able to that our first responders and the community develop a relationship with each other so that we, the hope is that we won't have a Ferguson in New York and other places like that. We will have a mechanism by which we have worked at and develop a relationship and we trust each other. That's already been, it's in effect now and it has already been used in situations where the police chief contacted rural lack in myself about a situation we told him what he needs to do and vice versa. I had a situation with a citizen told him to contact the police chief and he's very gracious to just talk to the individual and just hit it off. And I think that's what we need here. So I appreciate the two of you that has helped us and supported what we're trying to do. We have one more of a series of events that we're going to do to try to boast to that, to try to get more and more involved in the policing and the commissioners and all of the public officials. And you'll be getting a letter about that. We are going to honor the first responders in a parade and a reception and an activity where we encourage the youth, we're gonna need funding for the activity to pay for the meal, pay for the plaques, pay for the certificates we're going to give them. So I'll just be asking those of you who would like to help with that then please do. And lastly, I just want to let you know I haven't stopped having the, I don't know how to say it. I would like to, the monument to be at a museum, I'm still, that is still my desire. And also this podium where you have it, I still have a problem with that. The reason I haven't been back up here to talk to you if you remember the last summer was here, God has told me, until you get your anger in check, until you treat others like you want to be treated, you probably don't need to talk about that. And I'm a working progress, so I haven't got there yet, so I wanted to, but he did say, thank you for what they're doing, and that's what I'm doing. I'm thanking you for helping us help our community be the best it can possibly be. Thank you for the time. Thank you for your time, Willie. Okay. In consideration of our guest time, we're going to first go to item 3B on the agenda 3B is a presentation to Dent County's alternative dispute resolution program quarter reports for 2015 Good morning. Come on in Morning judge commissioners I have the pleasure of actually giving you two quarterly reports Last quarter of 2014 and first quarter of 2015 as I'm sure you reviewed them as you can see we we we're in the high 20s for mediations in the end of 2014 and we always seem to start off the year a little slow but we're picking back up for the in March other things to report the Ginton County bar that provides the Mediation Center for us on their own nickel revamped and Repainted and made our space Unbelievable We had we had to help with some very talented ladies one of them made our space unbelievable. We had to help with some very talented ladies, one of them who is now in the bench, but they spent a lot of time on it, and that actually believed we're not broader numbers up. And I guess, thanks, place to mediate more people on the community. Good work space. Yes, any questions? Thank you. Looks like you all, any questions? Thank you. Looks like you all have been busy. We appreciate you. Thank you very much. Thank you. We need a motion for approval. Second. Motion by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Marchant. Hearing no questions or comments on favor please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed to say aye. Motion is carried. Thank you for being here this morning. 3C is a presentation by Lauren Baker, Program Manager of Keep Denton Beautiful Inc. regarding the Keep Denton, I'm sorry, Keep America Beautiful cigarette litter prevention program 2015. Good morning Lauren. Thank you so much Judge and commissioners for having me here today. I'm excited to come and present to you. It's a little bit of background on what we've been trying to accomplish. Judge Horn is a little bit familiar. She's come out and done a cleanup with us actually on the square. But we have some results from this first year of our program and I did want to share those with you and open a little bit of a dialogue with you all so that if you have questions for me that we can address those. Excuse me. So the cigarette litter prevention program, Keep Denton Beautiful is a local affiliate of Keep America Beautiful and essentially what we do is provide Opportunities for our citizens in the city of Denton and Denton ISD service areas to improve their community through litter prevention, community beautification and urban forestry Programs. So we plan a lot of trees, we pick up a lot of litter, and we help people do projects that improve their neighborhoods and communities. This cigarette litter program is a, keep America Beautiful National Program, and overall throughout the nation this program has been shown to reduce cigarette litter rates by half on average and communities around the country. So there are four basic strategies which you can see there, anti-litter law enforcement, public awareness campaigns, installation of permanent ash receptacles so that people can put their cigarette butts in the proper place and the use of portable disposal units, which are called pocket ash trays. So cigarette butt litters, the most littered item in surveys of litter, 32% of littered items are cigarette butts or cigarette litter. And most people don't consider it littering, so that's what we're up against in our public awareness campaign efforts. In Denton we have worked closely with the community to try to avoid some of these costs that come with cigarette litter and litter in general. So economic costs and tourism costs and safety quality of life, environmental, they're all there, they're listed. I won't read through them for you, but they're pretty substantial costs that can impact the community at large if it's not addressed. Most of the time, private business owners and local government end up bearing the cost of that cleanup effort. But here in Denton, we have great volunteers and they assist with it as well. So it's so small, people think it doesn't matter, but as many people know, cigarette butts are comprised mainly of cellulose plastic and that does not biodegrade. It persists in our environment. So when it goes into our watershed and to our waterways where we actually derive our drinking water, that's very problematic in the long term. Hearing Denton, we've operated this program since 2007, but this past year was the first year on the downtown square and we'll be expanding the program in the upcoming year. So seven ashropthicles were placed around the downtown square area. We worked closely with business owners to develop partnerships where essentially these business owners would take on the responsibility of emptying and maintaining the receptacles. We would install them and purchase them with the grant money that keep America beautiful is provided for us. So it's really a great partnership because they take on, they're sweeping up any way so it's all collected in one area. They won't have to be doing as much work theoretically. And then we did a major outreach campaign. We had a city mayoral proclamation to proclaim November cigarette with our prevention month. litter prevention month, outreach campaigns, newspaper ads, social media, the whole gamut. And you have a handout that shows the placement of the current receptacles. Here's some pictures. Here's Judge Horn. And Representative Cronover on the, they came out and helped with a cleanup. And an image here you can see these are the permanent astrocepticles that we've installed on the left there of this slide. So results showed 20% reduction in nine months, but we did a follow-up analysis that showed actually 30% in one year, which is pretty significant, 30% reduction in litter. And we did win an award from Keep America Beautiful for our efforts, which we are very proud of. The plan for 2015 is to expand our efforts, expand our partnerships. And one of the reasons why I'm here to talk to you today is because we would really love to bring the county into the fold and into this conversation about what we can do as a community to combat and abate litter. Many people are aware of the smoking ban that the city recently passed, but I think that this is less a policy issue on that side and more of a litter issue. People are still going to smoke, they're still going to throw their cigarette butts down. Its behavior change, it takes a long time. Even with a top-down policy-making approach, we're still going to face these issues of litter in our community and cigarette litter in particular. So we are looking to add partnerships. We want to generate buzz around this program. We want people to start talking about the key points, which are that cigarette butts are littered and they should be disposed of in the proper environment receptacle. So here are the locationsosed of in the proper environment receptacle. So here are the locations. This is the handout that you have. The green boxes indicate prospective new placements. So we are currently contacting businesses on the square to determine their interest in working with us. And then you'll see there are actually two boxes there that are placed on the courthouse lawnside. And then you'll see there are actually two boxes there that are placed on the courthouse long side. That is the other thing that I wanted to bring to your attention was that we are interested in the possibility of installing them on this side of the street next to the existing big belly units. But however, we would need some assistance in some way with emptying and maintaining those, whether that comes from a private business or if the county is able to contribute some sort of resources in that respect. Again, just wanting to open up a dialogue and try to come up with some solutions collaboratively to how we can address this issue because the courthouse lawn was one of the primary focus areas, a lot of litter collected from the corners that you see there. So these locations are not just chosen based on partnership possibilities, but on the number of cigarette butts that we collected in our analysis. So, and that is what I have for you today. Yes sir. Just a couple of questions. Do you know if, or you referred to the city of Denton and there are no smoking, is that within restaurants in places of business? 30 feet from an entrance of a business. And the exception to that would be an outdoor patio area, I believe, would be the exception. So if you know what they have any ordinances in place, for instance, I know the City of Plano has a litter ordinance in place at intersections of major thoroughfares. The most secret bus that I ever see are turn lanes in the median. So they have a campaign where they pass an ordinance in the city of Plano that you can't throw it, that you can be fined by throwing a cigarette. But at the intersection they have these signs that say that. Do you know if Denton has anything? I've looked at the litter ordinances and Denton, we have one provision that I'm aware of and it's very general in nature that's essentially just littering is unlawful and can be addressed with a fine ticket. I don't know how heavily that's enforced so enforcement was really the key component of this program that they address and I did speak with a couple of police department officials and representatives, but they I think that it's it's a little bit of small potatoes in some sense because they're looking at illegal dumping, but littering is not as much a focus in nothing specifically addressing. I think the signs themselves are somewhat of a recurring factor. The signs are at the intersection. So these major thoroughfares. Right. Uh, secondly, uh, in case not here, are we able to, uh, have to understand that this is a state, uh, this facility is recognized as a state historical site. Yes, sir. And the property that the county owns extends to the parking lot. Is that correct? I'm a city that. Yeah. Kate and I have discussed the historic commission issues. Yes, we do. That's what I mean. So my question would be, would we have to address? You probably have to go through Texas Historical Commission to make sure that we... What about the don't we have to ask Trace-Lash trash cans at all the entrances. I think we could put up more of those. Well, let me ask a question here. On the northwest corner here, where you've got your little green square. Sam. I know there's already a trash receptacle there. Yes. And on the southeast corner as well. Yes. And on the southeast corner as well. there's already a trash receptacle there. And on the southeast corner as well. And on the southeast corner as well. My experience with the trash receptacles and astraseter are all for entrances of this building. Unfortunately, the astereys become a trash receptacle. That's not necessarily a cigarette, but I don't know how you stop that. We do try to put them next to the trash receptacle, which communicates without saying much that the people, you know, here's where you put trash here. So we're basically using the trash. The receptacle model that we use has grates that would theoretically prevent large trash all that we do get some small trash that's just so it's gone without holds up to work. But we have an issue too of who's going to be responsible for emptying them. Right. Now the city has already come in mind emptying the trash. Yes ma'am. And what I've been told is they have one individual who empties all of those solar powered trash units. So they feel pretty stretched at the moment. I can tell you, my staff, I have a staff of, it's me plus two people. And so we're pretty small. I do have a couple in the Freistree area that I personally go out and empty. So we do that when we need to, and it's not gonna stop us, but in terms of long-term sustainability of the program, these partnerships are really key. And that's what I've found from all the years of, I've been around since 2007 when we did the first program. How often are the solar-powered transfer receptacles empty? It varies based on the unit. They actually have an alert system that's in them that when it fills up, you would empty it. I would say on average probably once a week is what they end up getting empty. Some of them are less frequently. Some of them are more frequently. Well, this would add to Harold's duties as far as picking up around this building. I'm willing to give it a try. We'll see how it goes and you know, we'll contact the Historical Commission. I doubt they're going to have a problem with it. Anything that keeps the facility in the way. But we'll make sure that we. Wonderful. Which we can do. Judge, I think we should first contact the historic commission. I think there's a great program Lauren and I appreciate you doing that. I hate cigarette butts. Also, I think we need to get with Danny to see about his resources before we commit to taking on doing something else at the courthouse. And I don't know about you guys, but I think we right now the resources are stretched because the school day right now is not been outside, not been taken care of as well as I think it should be anyway. And so before we commit to actually doing this program, I think we need to take a step back and talk to Dave. We'll talk to the Texas Star Commission. We'll talk to Dave, Ramley, who's in charge of facilities. I appreciate that. And we'll get back to you on there. Okay. And I would just add that a lot of this cleanup, what we found with the businesses that we work with, they're doing it anyway. And I would guess that Danny's doing it anyway as well. And I have visited with him briefly. But I think that as far as cleaning up the cigarette litter, it contains it in an area where it's more manageable. I know Joey has a fella who sweeps out in front of the coffee shop and then goes out to the shop. And they're getting one this time around. They're pretty excited about it. But I would urge you to contact your didn't see a didn't official about that littering ordinance to expand it, be more specific with it. And I would tell you that those signs at those major intersections, if they get to turn 50% of it, you're 50% ahead of the game. Whether, you know, it's like I cut through the emergency room parking lot coming to work between the traffic backed up. It says on there this is not a cut through but I do it every time anyway. Can we arrest? True confession. There's a very commissioners quit. And there's a troll car right there. We could get the signal. I get ready to build a yeah. I am getting ready to build a street to make me see that. That's in vehicular litters is definitely one source in pedestrian is primarily where we've focused our efforts on the square but certainly we can look at expanding and trying to see how we can address that. It's better health care is listening. I apologize. Well, you can get the city's red light cameras and re-s focus on when people throw in out their cigarette. Hey. OK. Thank you, Judge and Commissioner. I appreciate it. Thank you. Some further work, but we'll get into it. Thank you. OK, I don't believe we need any formal action to amend. Let's go back to the agenda. Members, item two is the consent agenda. Do you have items on the consent agenda that you need to have some discussion on? We have a motion for approval. Assembly. Motion by Commissioner Marchin. Thank you. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Post and aye. Motion does carry. Consent agenda today consists of two a. A pearl of the order making appointments. H.R. has been busy. We have a promotion in the 211th district court. We have a promotion in the district courts office. We have a new hire and a rehire in the district attorney's office. Three promotions in the district attorney's office. three promotions in the district attorney's office, six new hires in the county jail, one new hire in the sheriff department communications, promotion for the sheriff's department, one lateral transfer in road bridge west, and a new hire in public health, adult immunization grant, and a lateral transfer in technology services records management. Thank you. Welcome, Michelle Dopson, back to services records management. Thank you. Welcome, Michelle Dobson back to the DA office. There you go. 2B is approval of the Intra Department of Transfers to see as approval of payroll. 2D is approval of Budget Amendment request 100960 for a postage for District Clerk in the amount of $4,000. 2E is approval of award of bid for Baron Road and Garelle. If I said that right I'm not sure. Road, Carvert replacement project. This is bid number 03152294 to North Texas contracting incorporated for 622,555 dollars and 50 cents. So the funding to be transferred from budget line item 787-494-904-02013 PI bonds precinct one to a new line item 78-7415-904-0, Baron Girl, Harvard's precinct one. This is posted by purchasing. Do you have a motion? A move for approval? Oh, we've already done it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Already approved. Okay. We have one resolution, a retirement resolution. This is 3A. A recognizing Terry Ramon. The retirement and Terry could be with us this morning that we still want to do the resolution. This is a resolution honoring Terry Ramon for 21 years of service to Dayton County. The Dayton County commissioners courted County, Texas during the regular session on the 19th day of May, 2015, considered the following resolution. Whereas Terry Ramon began her career with the Dayton County District Attorney's Office in the Family Law Division in April 13th, 1994. And while we retire May 29, 2015 after 21 years of dedicated service with Dick and County. Whereas Terry as a result of her diligent work, her diligent work ethic, professional integrity, and demonstrated ability was promoted to victims, assistance, administrative assistant on November 15, 1996, and then to Chief Administrative Assistant of the Family Law Division on August 8, 1997. And whereas Terry has held the juvenile division together for many years has made herself indispensable. She has been professional, diligent, loyal, dedicated, and very conscientious. And whereas Terry will be sororliness for many reasons, but we will definitely miss her baking. Her vegetable garden in her eggs, all of which she generously shared with us. And whereas Terry has trained many employees over the years and they are all grateful that she was their teacher. And whereas Terry needs more to the family division of the district attorneys office than just being an outstanding team leader. Terry is our very dear friend and for that she is priceless. Whereas we wish Terry well in her retirement as she enjoys time with her husband and family as well as baking and gardening. Now therefore be it resolved. Denton County Commissioner's Court, Denton County Texas, thus here by extended Terry Ramon, our sincere and grateful appreciation for a dedicated service to Dent McKinney. We congratulate Terry on her well earned retirement and extend our best wishes for continued success, happiness and good health in the years to come. The chair will so move. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, all in favor, please say aye. Aye, if those seen in, motion does carry unanimously. And happy retirement, Terry. And thank you for your service. 5A is a Prool of the Bill Report, payments for CSCD, Community Corrections, TAIP, Shares, Training Shares, Proputure VIT, Interest, DHA, Check V and DHA, Proputure Funds are all presented for recording purposes only. Good morning, James Wells. Morning, Judge and commissioners. Approval of the bills. As presented I do have some corrections to read out. There's one deletion. General funds, some pay jade, and under 2008 it's payment for $73.00. It needs to be redone. I have four additions once out of the share of seizure fund. It's to the US border, customs and border protection for $15,875. That's really this for recording purposes. I have a payment to the city of the police department for $21,398. That is Edward Bern, just a assistance grant expenses. It's really a pass through grant payment of $21,298. That's how the general fund also. We have payment to CityCard for the April 2015 P card, countywide P card that's 19,000 33 dollars and also another payment to city for prisoner transport expenses for the sheriff's office 7,000 730 dollars and 97 cents it's all corrections I have. Thank you and any questions remember the court or do we have a motion? Certainly. I'll second. Motion by Commissioner Marchant, seconded by Commissioner Coleman, hearing the questions all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to the name? Motion of this carries. 6A is approval of the valuation committee's recommendation to rank Nenatine Rainey and Associates, Inc. is the most qualified firm for engineering services for the same vast road improvement. This is RFQ-060991981 road bridge engineering services. I'll move for approval. I have a motion by Commissioner Coleman, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell, Scott, did you wish to add anything? All right. Hearing no questions or further comments, all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Motion does carry. Good, Dale. It's improving that intersection at 455 in San Mass, which is real dangerous. And I think something- Yes it is. Has to weigh earlier. But we're trying to improve that intersection. And A is approval of a minor plan for Hollinsworth Edition. This is in Commissioner Pritzings IV. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Marchand. Are there questions? Hearing none all in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed to me. Motion to carry. 13A is approval of legislative policy statements and our resolutions and discussion or approval of other matters related to the 84th legislative session. I have one for you today. This is Committee Substitute 2521. I want to support it. This relates to the allocation and use of payments received under oil and gas leases of land owned by the state for our county road. I have a resolution in support of this idea before it has been substituted and is now moving its way through. But I wanted to make sure that we approved the bill. I wanted to make sure we approve the committee substitute and that message was conveyed to our legislators. And this is for us to receive royalty. This is right. Right. Are there any questions? Or do you want me to read the whole thing? Okay. Do we have a motion? Okay. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. I'll second. Sayonette by Commissioner Coleman. All in favor, please say aye. All right. I promise you need. Motion is carried. Thank you. I'm proud to see me motion is carried thank you We want to do anything as a court on the alert we got from CUC and from other agencies Revenue yeah on 1760 I think it is I've been communicating with Staff of all of our legislators on that issue. These things become up fast and I don't have time to wait for the next Tuesday commission meeting. Yeah, they keep getting amended. All I can tell you is, we have repeatedly sent communication to not only our delegation of legislators, but to the various committees that these bills are being heard in, whether it be Senate finance or ways and means in the house. I'm afraid if I send one more communication about revenue caps, they're gonna say enough. But- You're feeling on our representation in as far as their support of our- I think they get it. I really do. I think we're probably ultimately going to end up with the rollback rate being lowered to 6% versus 8%. Unfortunately, they still have the mandatory election in there. If you go over the 6%, that record has tried Senator Betancourt has tried a numerous occasions to add what's essentially his Senate bill 182 as an amendment on numerous other bills and has not been successful with that. was successful at getting done is requiring if you had a tax increase proposed in your rate that it has to be passed with 60% of the vote of the governing body, which we do anyway. So that really doesn't have a county effect that may possibly have an effect on the City Council or school board because they're larger bodies. But he was successful in getting that done. But the fight's not over. He's continuing to try and there are members in the house that are continuing to try to. It's getting to late in the session. We may make it through this time, but you can just bet your bottom dollar. It's going to come up two years from now. He will try again. It was the 6% of compromise. Was that a pretty side? A 6% is a compromise. He wanted to go to 4% and the 6% was a compromise. He's not happy about it, but he'll take it. We have our soon- have a civil meeting. You see on board with 6 percent? Well, I think most, nobody has really come right out and said it, but I feel they're probably okay with a 6 percent. They're not, but I have not heard anybody support 4%. But I think 6% is a compromise and it's probably going to stick. Yeah. How do we pass on that limit's durability to tax? Yeah, well, it doesn't. It's a one way street view. We have a policy meeting tomorrow at Good. You see, and Dunlene and FreeHeal will all be at the conference of urban counties, Texas Association and County, they've all been actively engaged in all of this and a lot of judges across the state. Judges have been there and commissioners and everybody's been down trying to help. I'm going to be honest with you down, John. Help. What? I'm a few weeks ago. I actually heard from a lobbyist in Austin that a particular house member that sits on ways and means made the comments in him, well, if my county judge doesn't support this, I'm not going to support it. It would just so happen. I knew the tax accessory that county row well. So I called her. I hit herself on another and I said call your county judge. He can help us stop this. And so, you know, hey, you get your help where you can. You do what you can do. So, you know, that was one of no vote. But it's been a fight. It's a very strange session, and I can't wait for it to be done. I'm sure they can either. How many days are you here? What makes it difficult, though, is Senator Benton Court has support in Dan Patrick, the Lieutenant Governor, for what I consider to be bad ideas. So, you know, I don't, I think it'd be terrible if they couldn't come to some kind of an agreement and put a stop to all this and went into an extra session concerning revenue caps. My gosh, that'd be terrible. But like I always say, it's not over till it's over, especially in Austin. To answer your question, Commissioner, I had repeatedly reinforced our position on revenue caps with our legislators to the point they probably don't want to hear from me anymore. I was teased in Dave Nelson in Senator Nelson's office. This is really important because Judge Horn and I both agree on this. Make note of that. Make note of that. Absolutely. I think I've wanted to judge you. I think because every time I get a notice and something I'm sitting there immediately she says own it. I think we're doing all we can do. I hope so. I hope so. All right. That's all I've got for you on that issue today. Okay. 13B is approval of appointing one or a resident County Health Department epidemiologist to the County Behavioral Health Leadership Team of the Denton County Citizens Council on Mental Health. Matt has requested that we add him to this committee. He has a particular talent for statistics and that capability would be very helpful to this committee. He has a particular talent for statistics and that capability would be very helpful on this committee. So we'd ask to add his name to the committee. So the chair is going to so move back and then by Commissioner Mitchell with her questions. You're none all in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed to name. Motion to carry. Okay, 13C is approval of the 2015 Building Use Request from Pragg Holves Claw of SW Literature, LaRouche Political Action Committee to use the Mary and Jim Horn Government Center parking lot for the purpose to distribute political literature and engage people to join the Political Action Committee. To give you a little history on this, in 2012, this group showed up at the tax office and just set up their tables and proceeded to do their thing without ever asking permission to use county property. And the tax successor at the time, Steve Mossman, I believe went out there and told him, well, don't put anything up on the building and don't be harassing people and you can do your thing. Basically, well, we started getting complaints. Customers are coming into the tax office. A large number of people were coming into the tax office complaining. They felt harassed. We actually had a lady come to my office here in this building who was terrified because she felt in her mind that she was followed to her car. She felt threatened. She was frightened and very upset. And I guess the first thing I should do is ask if we have a representative of this organization with us here today. I don't think they are. We were told they didn't have to come today, but they were certainly welcome to do so if they'd like. Okay. My point is this Mr. Holk's call insists that this is a Freedom of Speech issue. It's not. I would love to be able to let him and any other organization exercise their freedom of speech. But you've got to follow the rules and you can't be harassing people. And the rules are you don't put anything on the building and you don't harass people. and you don't harass people. So he sent a left-of-one message for me that was not nice to the point that I won't play it for you today. But he had very selective memory. We didn't put anything on the building. We didn't bother anybody. We know the rules well apparently, they don't, because they did bother people and they did put things on the building and that's Bobby if you'll put the picture up there there is it he's coming okay I noticed thoughts that left that their pictures are taped up on the building. This is their idea of not putting anything on the building. Well, I respectfully disagree. So I would, this took place in 2012. After they were basically asked to leave in January and said you need to go through the proper channels and make a request to use a county facility. They did make a request in February and because basically they lied, they said they didn't put a thing on the bill and they didn't harass people and you know if they were well that's not the case. Their request in February was turned down. Now I would like to give them an opportunity to redeem themselves. Hopefully they've learned their lesson. So they have done what they need to do. Made the request in the proper fashion. I am going to make a motion to approve their request. And I am also going to include in that motion that we waive the fee because they're not actually in the building that not using any of our facilities are just on the sidewalk and but I want a full understanding that they are not to harass people like they did in 2012. If people want to talk to them that's fine they can talk to them all they want to. But if we start getting complaints and we find that they are putting things up on the building, which they clearly say they know the rules, but if that doesn't turn out to be the case, I want to totally understand that the approval today will be rescinded and they will be required to leave and I highly suggest that we'll never ask to use our facilities again. Judge, I don't want them to block the door so people can't... You know, they're off to the side, so they're clearly not blocking the doorway. They didn't do that last time. It was a matter of all the people that came into the tax office and the show of French is here today and she can attest to the fact that all the people that came in and complained and then certainly the lady that came over here that felt so frightened. Did you want to add anything, Michelle? I did. I do remember that. And I do certainly support anyone's ability to free speech. I think that's very important in this country. But we did have a lot of customers. They were offended, they were concerned, they were harassed, they were, and their words, they felt like they were being chased. And what this organization does is they do select the time and we're going to be very busy, because obviously you want to try to catch as many people as you can and we all know with tax office they get it a month we're very busy and so I do support commissioners court determination should you to allow them to be on the premises but I would also like to make it very clear that if we do receive any complaint if we do receive any concerns from our taxpayers, we'll report that because we just we don't want to make it a bad situation for taxpayers. Thank you, Michelle. We have Randy Fungan's chief deputy from the Sheriff's Department here and I've already talked to the sheriff too. I would love to give them every opportunity to exercise their free speech, but you've got to follow the rules. So with that, I'm going to make a motion to approve. Is there a second? Second. Second. Second by Commissioner Coleman. Further discussion? Yes. I will be communicating with this gentleman to make sure that he has this all in writing. I have some reservations. I mean, I'll vote for this. I'm just, I'm just very, very, yeah, but not because of his organization, but what about, what about the Girl Scouts? If they come and ask for building use request of the parking lot of this same center to sell Girl Scout cookies? I mean, are any other center? I mean, is that an applicable use. I'm trying to remember if our building use policies is something about fire here. Where's here. Go ahead. Morning. Currently this building is not on our building use policy. So, attachment A has a listing of all the buildings that can be reserved for use by the public. The tax building, the horn building is not one of them. And so that was the first issue we were dealing with with this group. The second issue was the freedom of speech. And because that building was not already a traditional public forum, it was a non-public forum, and we could prohibit people from expressing their free speech in that location because it was non-public for us. By granting this request, I feel like we are transferring it from non-public for us to traditional public for us. So other groups, other entities, not entities, but other groups that want to express their speech. I feel like you have to recognize that you can't limit it on that basis. And they would need to go through the building use request just like everyone else. And the court would not be able to unresumably deny any request. I don't have a problem with it. I don't either. I mean, if you look at that. OK, that's twice in one day. Be back. But you know, it's like let's go feel in no cases. They say, you know, you have the right to protest. But, you know, I have the right to be there to have a brick in my hand. So, you know. Things are making sure the sky's not falling. I just don't have a problem with it. I mean it's funny because I'd seen the stuff you provided and you know There's a whole bunch. It's not the public square like we're sitting on now But you know I saw your engine died and I also noticed we have evangelicals Who were out handing out lecture yesterday on the square and we've had all sorts of other people and I think you're right Judge that you know if they're not her assing anybody and they have the right to be there. I mean, I don't particularly trust me, I'll agree with Lyndon Marooch and Osallos. It's not about the organization, and it's not about free speech. It's about the problems and... Long as they're not stopping anybody from parking or keeping them from paying their taxes. Stay out there after this vote. And I need some other questions that we're like. We need to make sure that this building is added to. We would like to add it to the, don't you think so? Because it's going to come up again, whether it's this organization or some other one. I just want to be sure that the people can get in the building without the I mean, it's like when you go to vote, if they're bad for enough or you don't have to be, you don't have to, they just fail along you like, right, I want to be sure that if I want to walk in that building, I can walk in there without somebody trying to push something in my hand. I want freedom to walk in that building and, you building. And I know a lot of times when you go to vote, people rush you, and you don't like it. That's why I go. A hundred foot marker. Let's photo on it, and then I've got it. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't. You ready to vote? OK. We've got a motion in a second. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Cine? Okay. Okay, go ahead. They open up another can of worms if we could. Let's say that, in fact, I think in going to be two for sure I know and I'm not sure and Lewisville is, are you going to have a legislator within your office? No. Is the Andy going to have in his office? Not down it. And so, Carolton and Frisco will have state reps offices in there. Well, we're elected officials as well. Do we revert to policy of the city when it comes to protest? Because I know that at one point, Bert Solomon, when he was in there, he was being protested, heavy, heavy duty about his particular selection of Speaker of the House. And they protested, first on County property, City of Carrollton came and told them to move off the County property and move to the sidewalks. So, you understand the question, who do we defer to and do we do it? I'm from the building policy. I don't think we've ever addressed any kind of protest and how far it can go on our premises. I say our taxpayers premises of public property. I actually like to look into that before giving you an answer because I just don't know off the top of my head I could kind of weigh it out but I'd like an opportunity to look at. You know, they could actually be right up in your front door and block your front door. I mean, in protest. And so what do you rely upon? What law do you rely upon to remove them if you can remove them at all if they're interfering with the business of that building at the time. Even though it's a public and it's paid by the taxpayers, because I have wondered that many, many times how, you know, when you said about the public array, what did you call it? Public forum. Yes, for us. Oh, yeah, the traditional public forum? look a ray what did you call it public uh... for or yeah that the traditional public for or uh... so what is the traditional public for all the way to the front door there they're different it depends that's kind of a complicated question to answer right now i don't mean is put you on the spot i those are just ideas i mean It's kind of a complicated question to answer. Okay, just write. And I don't mean just put you on the spot. Those are just ideas. I mean that immediately I think about the use of our public facilities or how public is public and how far does it go? Does it go all the way into the building or does it stay outside in the parking lot? I would think if they were blocking keeping you from doing business, they could be removed. Right. There are certain limitations, but I'd like to get you like specific language to answer your question. And there's perps behind that. I mean, we had someone come and blank at the entire building down in Carrollton with obscene letters and protests of certain things that went on and were passing things out to people. He was later incarcerated for other reasons, but I would like to stand. Someone were to ask if they could protest outside my building or any of our buildings how far would that be? I mean all the way to the front doors long as they're not in the end. We can come up with some language and add it to the building news policy. I'll be happy that I did before it becomes an issue. Correct. Okay anybody else want to address this issue any further? All right. Moving right along 14 A is approval of the depository contract and depository pledge agreement between Dantt County and Wells Fargo bank. We have questions on this issue. Scott, did you need that anything? Okay. I'm approval. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second Posting the motion does carry. We have included our business for today. Y'all be safe out there. Jody, they still predicting some more rain forces afternoon. Seven inches through Sunday between now and Sunday 7 inches possible. Okay, y'all be careful over here. We're adjourned. We're adjourned.