Okay. Okay. So I think what we'll do as best we can is to move through the agenda and leave the joint meeting with the Planning Commission towards the end in the hopes that Markey will get here. So my apologies to you of the Planning Commission for coming earlier than you probably needed to and sitting through this but Mayor Butler asked me if we could try to work it that way. So that's what we'll do so first up is An update on the primary in general election for 2016 Janice boss Welcome, well, thank you for having me. I wanted to share with you and the Snowmass Village community three things Number one is our office has moved. So we are no longer across the street from St. Mary's Church. We have moved our election department to the Yut City building, which is 501 East Hyman. OK, so we're in there. There's a lobby what do you want to call them? There's a lobby area in the building. And I always joke that there used to be a laundry shop in there. So we're in the old Freudian slip. There you go. So a reception area and I mail that processing area is in the old, the Yut City building and our offices are up on the second floor. Okay, thank you. Head's up with that. Anybody that wants to visit us city building and our offices are up on the second floor. Okay. All right. Thank you. Heads up with that. Anybody that wants to visit us? Look for us in the old Yut City. Yusubiy old, the old Yut Barn girl. Right. That's what people are familiar with. But the other. But the other. And thank you. That's my segue. So the recording department and the motor vehicle department just moved last month and they moved into the lower level of the Vector Bank. So we are kitty corner across the block from each other. So if you need any motor vehicle services go to the Vector Bank downstairs, they'll be able to help you. I think we'll be in there for the next two years. We're hoping to move back in the Plaza one after the remodel, the beginning of 2018, but as you all know how construction goes, we'll see how that works works so we're hoping to get back soon. In reference for the primary election ballot stop today so if you're a Republican you will receive a Republican ballot it is a contested ballot and the Commissioner race for District 3 will be on that ballot as well. If you're a Democrat, it is an uncontested ballot, but the Commissioner race will be on there. The three candidates running for office in District 3, Michael Olloslate, is term limited. And everyone who is not a Democrat or a primary, who is an active registered voter in Pick and County, will receive a ballot with just Commissioner 3 raised on it. It candidates running for Commissioner 3 race are hot greenway Greg Poshman and Scott Ryder the two top vote getters from the primary election will be forwarded to the presidential election. Okay. A little bit about the primary election. We forwarded to the presidential election. Okay? Now a little bit about the primary election. We dropped ballot today out of Denver. You should be receiving them this week in the mail. Okay? It is an all-mail ballot election, drop the ballots back in the mail, or drop them off and visit us at 501 Highman Avenue in the Yut City building. Also, primary election is on June 28th. We are required to have early voting, so that will be the week before. It will start the 20th Monday through Friday, 830-430 at the Aspen-Jewish Center in town. We are no longer in Plaza 1, so the Aspen-Jewish Center is town. We are no longer in Plaza I, so the Aspen-Jewish Center is gracious enough to work with us to have our service center with them. Early voting is Monday through Friday on Saturday, 10-2, the preceding Monday, and then on Election Day 7-7. We have new election equipment this year. I gave Rhonda some brochures in that brochure about election that shows the equipment. We are doing central accounts, so we're hoping our outcomes will be faster on election night. Janice, excuse me, one second. There still is mail-in ballot? Yep, it's all mail-bout. It's all mail-in. Oh, so the early voting you're talking about is for the primary or for November? Yeah. So in 2013 throughout the state of Colorado, the law was passed, it was held in both 1303, that no matter abouts to all active registered voters. In a primary election, we are required to have early voting a week before in a service in an election day. Okay. Anything else about primary before I move on to the presidential? So the presidential election, which I know you'll have some races and some issues in. Okay, so that is November 8th. That's a mail and dropped 22 days before the election. Our active registered voters will receive a ballot in the mail for the presidential election. There will be two weeks of early voting before the presidential election on November 8th, and there will never be at the Aspen Jewish Center. But on Election Day for the presidential, there will be three service centers open. It will be the Georgetown Ann Aspen. It will be here for SNS Village and Election Day, seven to seven, seven a.m. to seven p.m. and it will be at the Grace Church in Emma. The leader of the voter service employment centers, and I'm not going to leave it any service center on election day or to early voting. You don't have to go to the polling place where you live anymore. The service center is a full service. You can vote in person, go vote where you're mail about. You can pick up on another mail ballot and leave because you're supplied with mail ballots. And since 2013, you can register up until an election day. You don't have to be registered 30 days before. So you can walk in and register to vote if you moved in Colorado for 22 days or more. So we hope to work out that. So you can update your record. Where you moved determines what you vote on. It determines the style ballot you get. So I think I've caught everything, unless you've got any other questions. You don't have any questions? You said of the presidential candidates for the UNIS ballot. I thought you were talking a lot already about it? What's on this ballot is not it's not a presidential for primary. What'll get your map ballot in the mail today. Okay, so voter early. Don't vote often because I'll send you to the DA. Okay. Thank you, Janice. Thank you. Okay. Next, I think we'll go into public comment. Is there anyone who would like to make a comment on a non-agenda item? Richard? Please step up, state your name. I'm going to make a statement that, put, give us your name first so we run the record. My name is Richard Goodwin. I live at 385 Fairway Drive and I also own a condominium in the capital peak building 3223. And I'm here to talk about as an owner in the capital peak building. I attended the HOA meeting last Friday and I pretty much read this statement and then I'm going to read to the council. And that is, I don't believe that related SAC has the authority to manage theH-HOA and Metro Districts. They were created in 2004 by the Council. Base Village was abandoned in the 4th closure. At that time, the owners of Base Village Company should have replaced the officers and directors of the HOA and Metro District. It's not too late for the owners to assert that right. My lawsuit to determine whether the 2004 PUD is legal is still going on. When related, SAC bought some land, some condos, some concrete, they did not do their own due diligence. If they had, they would have asked for a new PUD ordinance and new conditions, or just use a zoning variance for each building. If related, SAAC officers and directors will not resign now, I as an owner will sue asking the courts to remove them and asking the owners to vote for new officers and directors as the owners of the base village company. In order to avoid litigation, I request council remove the present officers and directors of the baseball age company, master association and my pro districts one and two. I assume council will need a legal opinion as to my request. It is quite urgent that this matter be promptly resolved and I thank you for your prompt consideration. Thanks, Richard. I realize that the owners of capital in Hayden have been having a lot of discussions, a lot of issues and are pretty unhappy about the way the Master Association is being operated. We will look into whether the council or the town has that ability to do what you're asking. Well, I believe you do. I'm asking you too. I'm not asking for a reply now. I know. I'm gonna leave copies of this with you. Okay, and I would like to reply as soon as it's convenient for the council. Okay. And I assume there would be some legal issues and when that's decided, my alternative as an owner is to assert my rights against the present people. The voting is so lopsided. I don't know if you realize what they have done with this. It's like a, we're second-class citizen. They have 200 votes for doing nothing. We have one vote for owning. You know, the commercial had 200 a vote for 250 feet. I had that I don't have three votes You're you're you're so so lopsided it demands justice your associate and I thank you for your attention You're welcome it your associate pack keeper has made us very well aware of the differential in in votes and how we how they're skewed. But thank you Richard. Anyone else? John, did you have a comment? I just be happy to respond Mr. Goodwin's demand right now so there's no delay. If you can do that, please. The Metropolitan District was created by order of the Pitkin County District Court and it is a special district and the management, the voting rights, et cetera, are all defined by statute and the town council has no authority whatsoever to intervene. It is essentially a separate government. And the electors of that body are the owners within the district, which encompasses basically all of base village. So the developer owns a certain portion of the property there they have the representation, first guide by statute in the Metro District. So the town has no authority. The only authority the town has is to approve the Metro District Service Plan which they which the town did back in 2004. As to the base village company, that's really a homeowner's association, even though it's called base village company, and that's the name of their association. And that is a private homeowner's association, which the town has absolutely no jurisdiction over to remove officers as Mr. Goodwin states or really interfere in any way with their voting and the way they have structured their association. You can all think of to your own homeowners association and think how you would like the government intruding in your private affairs as to how you manage your property. So the short answer is that in both situations that the Tom of Snowmass Village doesn't have jurisdiction to, uh, interfere with the governance of the association and or the metro districts. Okay. Thank you, Joan. Um, any other comments from the public? Okay, let's move on to the consent agenda. We start off on the draft agenda and work session topics. Any comments, Bill? No, I don't have any. I know my dates are going to change. I'm around the dog get back with you. I'm not sure yet. The original August 1st and August 8th. I think I'm going to be here for maybe two other weeks. I may be. I'll let you know. If you have any questions, Bill, any? No questions. OK. I would like to talk for a couple of minutes discuss for a couple of minutes the draft ballot for the school district Do we have where are we stand on that at the moment Clint? Right the council's Draft be ready to go for the July 5th meeting because that was the meeting we had all the council members Right, and I know John is working with art with legal team to get a draft prepared for that meeting Are we have we met with the school the school district John to work begin the discussions about that Given direction to staff to bring back that ballot question to July 5th. So it's a ballot that it's a ballot language that staff will put together without input from the school district. That's correct. I mean, no, we've already had their input. It's going to basically be asking voters whether they want to increase their property tax rate by one mill, which will generate approximately $500,000. And then there'll be language in there about how that mill can be used. And will it, well, from my perspective, there should be language in there about how that mill can be used. And will it, well, from my perspective, there should be language in there that says that this increase is in excess of the maximum, the maximum that the state typically allows. So as for timing, I mean, that that July fits, you're going to have a call to base draft. And I think when you see that, I think when you have that ability to have those comments back and forth, work with your colleagues to come up with that majority opinion, and then John will take that direction. And we can, we'll come back to you again at some point. Well, I mean, I see it's on here to come back August 15th. But that's his final approval. Is this a one vote? It's a resolution. Resolution, so it's only voted on one time. We're gonna bring you draft language on DeliFest. And then it has to be done by the end of August. So we put August 15th. And it may appear on your agenda's in between, depending on when you come to acceptable language. Okay. Well, I think that's what I'm I think that's what I'm I'm really hoping for. I'm hoping that that we can have an opportunity to talk about this and before we have to do a vote so that we have more than Thursday to Monday to consider the language. The discussion will start on July 5th and should be completed by August 15th and we can add additional dates as necessary all we did is put the start at the end and then yes, we can add as necessary, okay Okay, but they did get feedback from the state that We couldn't We don't affect the amount of state back that we go towards the school correct Do we have that in writing? We don't. No. Do they have it in writing? I didn't ask. But they're comfortable with the process we're moving forward with. Well, yeah. But I don't know if we should be comfortable with the process we're moving forward with unless we get something that is a little more official then I know superintendents Quote last week that to the best of my knowledge or my understanding that's not particularly strong I've got it in an email from the district's attorney Okay, and he's checked with the Colorado Department of Education and the Attorney General's Office. He's got sign off from both. Okay, so we have something that signs off on it that's something we can rely on. Yeah, all right, that's just what I was trying to get to. Okay, so you'll see it introduced on the fifth, and then depending on levels of adjustments or whatnot, our goal is to have it adopted by the 15th of August, the past by resolution so that it could meet the county clerk's timelines and whatnot. Okay. Something like this. Go ahead. We now, now the EOTC has been canceled, are you still doing the preparation for that on June 13th? I don't know. Honestly, I didn't catch it. I don't know. We probably, we don't need to do the prep and, um, August, I mean, at this point, I don't know. David might know more than about it, and then we don't think we're set on the date. Yeah, there's no reason to do the prep for the ERTC meeting. But if you all want to talk about the other two issues, the circulation and the mobility, we're certainly prepared to do that. Okay. Sounds good. All right. Okay. So we need a motion on the, the the no other questions about the consent agenda. Can I have a motion motion do approve second? All in favor. Aye. I post. Okay. Okay. So. Okay. So it looks like, um, well, can, is there anybody here from the side of our? No. They're expecting to be here at six. Okay. But I mean, we can do it. It's really a discussion on your behalf. They've already gone ahead and approved the IGA and we can talk it through. It's really up to you guys. Well, yeah, I mean, I guess I'd like to try to give Mayor Barler as much time as we can. So if we can talk about this, whatever we have to talk about. Does that mean we're doing it? Is there any? I mean, honestly, Clint, please give us a... If you want to rearrange the agenda, you're the chair. Okay, so you say I want to talk about fire district now and then we'll all know. All right, I want to do whatever I want. I want to wait for the mayor. We don't know what you're doing. I want a chair. Okay, fire district. Thank you. Do you want to serve Julianne? You want me to? You go. You go. Okay. Simple. You could take a break if you want. Take it by the rain. I might do that. Anyway, I think you're all aware that the snowmass wildcat fire protection district is proposing to replace the existing fire station. I think most everybody in town knows that they looked for alternative sites where they're located now and they have come to the conclusion that they want they need and they want to stay where they are and they need to have a new building. The fire district, as you know, is a special district, like the metro districts, snowmast water and sanitation is a special district. They are a government unto themselves here in snowmast village. They have their own boundaries. They actually, the fire district spreads beyond the town on the portions of the county which are in the wild. Snowmast Wildcat Fire Protection District. They have statutory authority to construct improvements within the district for their own purposes. And they are essentially exempt from our zoning as municipalities, which is they are government of their own with their own boundaries. And what we've done in the past. Another example is the Aston School District. They are they are allowed to construct educational facilities within their district and be exempt from zoning the municipal zoning and they're required to build a certain building standards under the state. So we had that situation 2011. She probably shouldn't talk about that one. She's got a conflict. But anyway, they asserted an exemption. And the town was not really in favor of that exemption. So we came up with a modified review process. And we're basically using that same process. And what it does is it gives the community through the Planning Commission and the Town Council a chance to have public meetings to give input to the board of the fire district as to what is going to be compliant or consistent with our comprehensive plan and what parts of the zoning code. But it does not give the town the authority to approve or reject their project. That's, that authority is reserved to them based on special district law. But in terms of community relations and public dialogue about their process and their design, they have agreed, they've already approved this IGA this before you today and what the IGA provides is a streamlined set of meetings with the planning commission and with the town council and that any recommendations that the town council eventually makes because the planning commission would recommend a council and council would make recommendations to the fire board and the fire board would then review those. They'd either incorporate them or they have to give you public information as to why they are rejecting those recommendations by the town. So that's essentially it. It's a way for both the fire districts in the town, through both the Planning Commission and the town council to conduct a public review discourse, but it doesn't imbue you with the authority to approve or deny that building. So it's essentially a one step process that provides an opportunity for discussion, but the town doesn't have the ability to force anything. That's right. They have the ability to send recommendations and actually under state law, they have to take an action to reject those until why they don't want to do them. So the IGA has that in there. Now they would think of it more as a two-step process. And once or twice however many means, one step in front of the planning commission to get all their recommendations. And then you consider those recommended, you, the Tom Poussel, consider those recommendations in addition to whatever recommendations you want to make and submit that document to the fire district okay but it's um sets the process and we have to vote on this resolution tonight just to move this process forward all you're doing tonight is approving the IGA as written and if I have changes we can do that. If you have changes, it will need to go back to their board. They approved it two weeks ago. Yeah. Really in my mind, but this is, they don't have to go through this. This is their concession to the town to say we want public input. We want your opinion. Here's the process. We want to hear your opinions through and set the nice framework up versus just saying we don't need to hear it we won't hear it and they've been very cooperative in that effort and I think this is an acknowledgement towards that. Bill Tom any comments? No I like the way it's written up I think just the way Clint said you know they don't have to do this process and the idea of them wanting public comment I think just like Clint said, you know, they don't have to do this process. And the idea of them wanting public comment, I think it's a very good thing. So I agree with it. Yeah, I mean, it seems to me it follows. It's very, it follows very closely what a review would be. The planning commission level. Well, the protocol that they're going to go to the same protocol. Yeah, that's right. You know, and they don't necessarily have the protocol, they're going to go to the same protocol. Yeah, I think that's right. You know, and they don't necessarily have to, but they're going to. And that's a good thing. So, do I have a motion? Yeah, I mean, it's the sense of the same as the water and sand, which you're presenting with as well. And they'll likely come through a similar process when their plant gets closer and they've got a little closer timeline, but it will be a similar idea. When we'll, I mean, us approving resolution number 24, the public will have a chance to comment on this and then they'll be able to listen to the public comment at another time, of course. I'm assuming, right? I mean, for the fire, we're talking about this. Yeah, they haven't even made the decision to try knowledge of how they're going to move forward they're just saying if we do move forward this is what the land use process but I will make I'll be the first person say I'll make a motion to approve a resolution of the 24 bill second I'm all in favor I I'm any opposed no okay thank you remember this discussion because it's gonna be I. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye commission so John I have to open up who I have to close anything in order to open that up you will invite the chairman Mr. Nolton of the planning commission to call their meeting to order at this point okay Jamie would you call the meeting of the planning commission to order please yeah my pleasure I Soon Ronda you'll do roll. Yeah, which you do Just a sin here Here here Thank you. I'm here. OK. So our meetings. OK. So now we're here together. I guess that, and as I understand it, the purpose of this joint meeting is to discuss a review of the comprehensive plan and the process by which we are going to carry out that review. Is that your understanding? That's my understanding. Is that correct? Julianne, do you have a presentation? Go ahead. Okay. The planning commission did pass the resolution which is attached to the staff report, which is recommending to town council that they accept their, the state of the comprehensive plan report 2016, very brief report. Essentially it says we think that the council should move ahead with recommending that the plan be amended to allow a full review and update to better reflect the vision and values of the community. So per the Land Use Code, the Planning Commission, in a joint meeting with you presents this report. And that's why they're here tonight that they've been invited to do that. We did go ahead and pre-notice for public hearing for June 20th. So that would be your next regular meeting. next regular meeting. What our intention is is presuming that Council accepts the report and wants to hold that public hearing and does so the next step would be for us to solicit consultants through an RFP process and the Planning Commission has indicated their desire to be involved in that process. We would hope that maybe some city council folks might be interested in doing that as well. We are hoping to begin the process through a steering committee type of format, a little bit different than what we've done with the poster and the CCP. The idea would be that the Planning Commission and the Council sit together, along with community members who will essentially steer that vision of the update of the plan. Once we do have a consultant on board with us, the first step that we would want to take is to further refine the process because we're going in making a presumption about what that process may look like, but having another set of eyes and other experiences may help further frame that. And try and create a process that works with our communities, you know, ebbs and flows with our visitors, our guests, with our year-round residents, and create a calendar of public engagement that will make sense for as many members as possible. So that will be the first step in this process. So we hope to be getting on board with a process as early as early August. And being able to begin the idea of visioning and having public discussion and meetings and soliciting input on the internet and other methods. So this is consistent with the town council's goal of updating the comprehensive plan and you have already budgeted $200,000 for this purpose. So we recommend that town council accept with the planning commission just putting forward in their report. Okay. Gami, do you have anything you want to add relative to the planning commission's recommendation here? I have a few comments. The short one sentence, state of the comprehensive plan, is intended to just get the process started. That's all it was intended to do. There's the best easiest fastest way to get it in front of council. Because if we do do a review or update of comprehensive plan, we need some guidance. We need from the council and three respects, we need to know the scope, we need to know the process, the structure and how you want us to allocate that $200,000. Those were the main questions we had, need guidance on And we can take either one of them or if you have any questions, but that's pretty much where we are if anybody else I have a question. How did we? Where did the financial impact of $200,000 allowance come from? Would you adopt it the 2016 budget. That was our- That was in there? We put those dollars in there. And honestly, that's a high end number? That's a high end number. And so, I mean, it's always, in my opinion, a budget high in KMMO. And so we don't anticipate spending that, but those $2.00. Okay. Well, this is a different direction, I would say, than the Complan Review has taken place before. In 2013, the Complan Review was primarily the staff who related to each part of the comp plan and the planning commission. And we talked about issues that were creating problems or issues that have changed in the interim from the previous 2008 or 2010 or whatever it was. And we worked through that together and then presented it to Council. One of the things I couldn't exactly tell from the resolution and from the information was whether the and from the information was whether the Council in 2013 ever approved that those recommendations. So where are those recommendations? Where are they now? Do we have, I mean, somewhere, somewhere we would know what they are, right? We would have copies of them somewhere somehow. Well, I guess it would seem to me that those recommendations need to be reviewed. Again, it's to me it's a shorter jump from 2018, 2008 to 2016 than it would be from 2013 to 2016. In terms of what's changed and what's happened in town. So I kind of feel like that 2013 recommendations ought to be looked at as part of the scope of if you will the scope of this review To start If I can give you a little bit of history the planning commission did look at that they did revisit those recommendations that they had put forth to the council in 2013 and Where our discussion led was that It's it's an appropriate time now six years after the adoption in 2010 to re-look at the entirety of the community and spending look at the entirety of the community and spending a additional time on recommendations that had been put forward to the council and the council visited, which was not to act on adopting those back in 2013. Didn't seem to make a lot of sense. And so that's why this broad discussion that this broad, let's move ahead with this, was put forward in order for the process to begin. But I don't think that anybody felt that going through each of those sections in detail one more time, only to have council not agree necessarily with the recommendations of the planning commission one more time was going to be a good choice. Well maybe the council should look at the 2013 recommendations as well and you know provide some thought even though they were never they were never discussed or approved at least provide some thought you know as to as to those and that might help to move us forward. We could certainly do that at the public hearing if you want us to bring forward that information again to you. We can do that so that you'll have the benefit of, you know, refresh while you weren't on council, I don't think you are on the planning committee. I was on a planning commission at that point. So I think the council could get value out of at least being refreshed as to where the planning commission thought we were the town was in terms of the complex. I mean particularly Bill and Alyssa, you were on that planning commission I think at that time, because I came right after. Oh, you came right after? Marky may have been. Marky was, you know, Marky was in the previous reviews. What Julian's really saying is, by getting this broad direction from the planning commission, they're not precluding any subject whatsoever. They're not limiting. They're saying we need the broadest review, the most active engagement with the community. And so all those issues will certainly come forward. They're not because it wasn't that plan wasn't incorporated into the comprehensive plan. It's still there. It's still there for everyone to talk about. And quite frankly, in an effort to move the process forward, the planning commission said, all right, they looked at it. They spent time going through the 2013 recommendations. And they said, this is really too specific. We want to go broad. We want to do the whole thing from pretty much every angle. And so it doesn't preclude those from being part of it. Obviously, you'd want to hear from the public at the hearing in two weeks. And I mean, if there's an outpouring of why didn't we get to 2013 recommendations included, that's certainly fodder for all that discussion. And those are only thresholds to get to the process and the process is not restrictive in any shape or form in the code after you get past these two steps. Okay, which is the presentation of the report and the public hearing at that point after the public input that's when you really need to determine how that process is going to go forth. And Julianne's given you a little pre-curse of that here today, how staff is going to recommend that that process go forward. But you really should be having this discussion at the public hearing about what you're going to include in the review as you go forward. So, and I understand why you want to bring that to the forefront, but do understand the planning commission spent the better part of a meeting going through that report again. So, Bob, can I add it? Yes, I have it. We looked at it. And that's why we came to you because we wanted, you think, more needs to be done. So you went through, did a lot of words can we go in and do a six-year review which is take the information we have and update the plan's factual basis to see if there needs to be any changes. Julianne said that the format is sort of old- fashioned when they just dissect it. And two things. And I went to a planning commission meeting and they have a whole new thing, which every just promoted. It's called sustaining places, how to divide best practices, comprehensive plans on sustaining places. And that seems to be the direction in your and the memo, sustaining places. So there is an opportunity here to re-calibrate the current one. To modernize? Modernize? I don't know. Yeah, and it also is why we have plans and gives us an opportunity to review it. And that's why, you know, how much do you want? And maybe that's what we, John's talking about, we have to have a public discussion on that. So when your group came up with this language to do a review to better reflect the vision and values of the community, were there any specific, anything specific that came to the Commission's mind where these visions and values appeared not to really reflect the community You set that up very well. Thank you Well, I mean that much. That's the language. That's the question. That's enough. Yes, absolutely. Okay. That is the CCP, the connectivity plan. Uh-huh. And you'll be receiving a resolution if you haven't already that, or no, we're still working on a resolution. And that'll come before you. But I think that, and we've talked about this, is that it is more of a window into what the comprehensive plan re-evaluation will be like. And we got the impression that a single issue, connectivity. People came in with their different ideas, sidewalks, pedestrian crossing, flashing yellow lights, came to town council, town council said, maybe we should have the planning commission review it. And to see if it complies with the comprehensive plan. And the big flashing yellow light on this is, well, if the community really wants yellow flashing lights, that may change what the community feels is their vision of the community. Okay. If that in fact is true, then we better check in to see if that is in fact true. So, and that's why I think a review going through this process, asking questions, but it has to be, I think, done in a much more comprehensive, um, brello way. We're all questions about all the parts are asked, and that's why, um, I wish Mayor, not a mayor was here, because there's some, uh, the questions is how we go about that, I think is, is really important important and that's where I need we need. You need your help. Right, Jamie. Yes sir. There's also, I mean the data in that plan is very stale. I mean it goes, you know, a lot of the data, a lot of the graphs, numbers, the surveys, they need to be updated if they have not already but they are going to impact the results of that plan. So you think that's the sort of the purpose of the consultant to help update some of that data? Yeah. It's partly that and also to help us organize, getting the input from the community, for all the interested groups. I think just like that, I mean, the current plan, which is dated 2010, was probably start being prepared in 2008. A lot has happened since then. And we felt in looking at the plan, it was really, this was an appropriate time to really go back to the basics and you know, confirm the vision and then develop a plan around that that's relevant to today because there will be another 18 months before this is finished probably. So, now we're talking about almost a 10 year time period which is appropriate to re-look at the vision and the comprehensive plan of the community. Bob, we also recognize Julian and Jack Spakie in this area though as well, and would like for her to be the one who oversees specifically would like the council to suggest or read to? It's going to happen that way. I mean, it is. So she's too good of the resource too. Yeah. So I'm a little bit at a loss besides approving this resolution. I mean, I'm a little bit at a loss of what else we need to do to provide some direction to the planning commission on the scope. Well, the process we talked a little bit about, but the scope and the allocation of the funds. So, I don't think it's a point. It's not a one meeting. Do it this way, this, this, and that, and this move on. I think it's what we need today is agreement. We're going to start the process together. Okay. And all this will evolve and we'll get really and help to find even scope and get a consultant and we will do this in a professional way. I'd like to see another joint meeting. And I think it's scheduled once or I don't know if it is or not where you come up with that skeleton plan and then we'll discuss it before we start going to a resolution situation And that's the whole not even my skeleton plan But as we develop it what we hope to do is have joint meetings throughout its creation between the planning commission citizens and the council joint meetings throughout its creation between the planning commission citizens and the council discussing Different ideas because I've looked at the old and have with me and I made some notes on the old comprehensive plan And and it is it is so outdated that you know when you start talking about some of the amenities of the village You know, I'm just gonna bring up one for instance the golf course. That's not really an amenity I mean because it's it's a it's basically a private course unless you have that kind of financial to go down there. So to throw that bait out there in the water for all of our guests that are coming to town, I'm not so sure it's going to be that available to them. So I think we need to look at it. I just use an example. That for instance is in on the community services number five. It's listed on there. So there's a number of other things that are listed down there. We need to take a hard look at and what we're going to put in writing that are going to be out there for the next number of years. The exciting part for me when you start talking about these is not so much the report card part of it. Hey, here's our existing data. The more exciting part is, it's the question of, where do we want to be in 10 and 20 and 30 years? And that's really where the good policy stuff happens from the planning commission and the talent council. Golf Course or not? Do we want to have a follow-up? Again, I'm just using that as an example. Yeah, but I mean, I mean, for example, I used the planning condition was, you know, I've heard time and time again in my short tenure here, the mall should be redeveloped. Well, we can just again, the completion of base villages is on the number two there. And that's that's the way there's some there's some questions and those those are what do we want this place to look like? And then we can help put some policies in place to get that vision to happen. But those visions, those big policy questions, that's what you guys would be weighing in on and helping set those things up. And to me, those are the hard questions about, I mean, Jamie Bradford, very specific. But staff and planning commission, we've had this discussion. And Julian, it is a good plan. No doubt about it. And it's still very valid. There's still a lot of good stuff. There's a lot of good stuff in here. There is. And there's a lot of information that was provided by base village. That's probably Markey. That's Raincoming. She's talking to snowman around about it. For the last half hour. Yeah. Okay. Okay. What time? I'm just I'm just going to I don't think she's going to get here. But to agree with you guys. Yes. There is a lot of good stuff in there. Yeah. So, yeah, the policy is not necessarily what is the vision. I think it's. And I think the vision that we already created still valid. Yeah, I think it is. This is to me, I mean, I think as the planning commission and as a council, I'm not trying to necessarily say, let's say, a buck, but I am. I think the community's going to agree. We don't need to spend $200,000 on this. We take the good stuff and then move from there. Yeah, time, I think that we definitely are on the same page. Yeah. There that we slowly walk in that expenditure and that we do pieces and parts and evolve. And, you know, I just say to Bob that you're having been involved in the couple of generations of review of the comp plan, I agree that there is a lot of good information in the comp plan and that as you know, the process has been to review the, I guess by statute, to review the comp plan every two years. And we had a long discussion about that speed. That's too frequent because it takes a year to go through the comprehensive plan in a detailed way. It's true. We're talking about three years. Really and suggested that perhaps it should be a I got a ton of calls. They're julienne suggested that perhaps once a decade or so that it might make sense to really do a major overhaul of the comp plan, at least look at it in great detail and thanks Linda. And bring consultants in to help guide that process and use their expertise as well. So, you know, I think that it could have evolved. I think it could have been an evolution of the comp plan that we've had, or this could be the once in a decade time when we're ready to really look at it in depth from the STEM to Stern and use that expertise of the consultants. But I'm with Tom. I think that that's a very big budget, and I think that we should spend it very wisely and careful. I see the budget mainly hiring people to make this as public as possible because many people involved. Because that's the whole purpose. I think we have enough experts that we will need to refine some of the traffic studies, the parking studies. You know, we already have a CCP, which will just get sub-sumed into all that. I think we have the poster coming, I haven't seen it, but I assume it all should be considered together. And I think the only thing we have to do is come up with some policy. Now, this policy is our principles and I'm very, I'm going to give this to Julie Ann, she's the guru and all this. This is the modern template on sustaining places and I think it will be about sustainable, sustainability is just balancing people, the earth, and the economy. That's what we're trying to do. And that's right down our road. And I think having you involved is important to that community process. That's one thing that staff wants you to be isolated. Yeah. Yeah, so that's there was there was a question raised to me by Madame Mayor of that EF the council whether the decision makers on this thing at the end whether they should be involved in the steering committee or not and I see it both ways I see the fact that by involving them in the steering committee, you're kind of getting, you're kind of getting, the planning commission and the community is looking and getting some kind of buy-in as we go through this. And not sort of getting to the end and then finding out that oh there's a problem with getting three people to agree. So I think I'm landing on the side of let's provide the input all the way through instead of at the end so that we're traveling down the road more or less together all the way through. Right, I mean that seems to be the general push. Yeah. It's not necessarily, you know, there's another way, and that is planning commission engages the community and then presents it to you and you approve it or not. And that because arts or review, it maybe is not tainted as much with the fact that we're not elected officials. So that was the counterpoint. Well, the other thing, Jamie, is that we are more of a one issue body. The council is dealing with many more much broader range of issues where we can spend more time and focus on it. But we still run the risk of getting to the end and having a document that the official aren't going to buy into. Yeah, and you're right, Gus. But I think there's got to be sort of a middle ground where the planning commission can do the major part of the vetting and the digging. digging and perhaps check in periodically with the council in some fashion and that we all kind of give each other, you know, give each other sort of the go ahead or the not go ahead signal, but we still have our separate walls. I would encourage the council to get involved to some degree very early on. When we started thinking about the evolutionary process of just updating the comp plan as it exists, the very first place we started looking at was the vision the very first place we started looking at was the vision chapter. And you know, that's such an important issue and that may evolve over time or maybe our bedrock vision that was established 10, 15 years ago is so valid. I mean, that's a very good point and it may be that the towns, the councils were all early on, is at the 40,000 foot level, you know, vision and perhaps goals and that kind of thing. And we get that sort of set up. Then the planning commission can go down to 10,000 feet or lower and drill into those things as long as we've got the overview, we're all in agreement and all on the same page. And those are the kind of things that we need not to get in too much detail tonight. But when we go through an RFP process, I think we talked with the planning commission about, we'll see two or three different ways that different ways things can do it. And in that evaluation, we'll bring folks on, we can say what process is going to work best for us, what through three most comfortable working with. And those are some of those questions that we will be working to do, I think, to counselors or commissioners, Friskins Point earlier. We don't know tonight. And so we shouldn't be making that decision tonight, but as we get down the path, those will be the decisions to be made in the near future Yeah, there was a push by me anyway that you know, I wanted the $200,000 so we could do whatever we wanted I was reminded that so it all on spagus Maybe You should help us with that How soon will we will we be putting a steering committee together? So you guys are gonna have a public hearing on the 20th? Depending on the public and the info you get back that night. I mean, you could get info back from people saying, hey, don't touch it. We love it. To good gods, crap, it start over. We don't know. But it's something, at the end of that meeting, you progress with the planning commission's recommendation to start the process. We'll put an RFP out and then solicit for get folks on board to get them on board. So do we have the comp plan out there for people to look at? It's on my hands. Absolutely. Yeah, it is. I mean, whether or not they get out there and look at every day of questions. It's the number one thing on the website. Maybe two. I can't remember. I think it's a good idea to have a collaborative effort. But John, didn't you have some concerns about the Council and the Commission working together for the code? No, you have to understand that you're here doing the periodic review. And then when the public hearings over with, you move to the next step, which is the amendment of the comprehensive plan. And it's as broad as can be. It says, following the periodic review of the planning commission of the town council may conduct such additional hearings and investigation as they do appropriate. And may amend the plan, you don't have to. John does have to be amended by ordinance, which kind of leaves, you don't plan and commissioners would not have a vote. Their input is, you know, right. But I think if we have this collaborative effort and we have good representation from throughout the community here, we're not going to get to the end of the road and get to, you know, just deny it. You know, I don't want to go through that effort for not. Well, the process that started in late 07 started with a series of community meetings like leading up to the holidays and going into January. And those were really consensus building exercises. And they weren't, they were noticed meetings of both the Planning Commission and they were Formal meetings like this or breakout tables or focus, you know, there is in mass voting by clickers I mean these are just methods that you can use but you know you there might have been 12 15 tables of 10 and there might have been a planning commissioner at one or a planning commissioner at the miss and a counselor at one or you know Staff at one, but they mixed over the course of four or five big meetings and That's that's a great way to do it and then maybe I mean aren't Julian's the expert on this I'm just telling you from his story point of view, that is how the beginning of the last comprehensive update or that's a bad word you have in the comprehensive plan, but that's what it was. And the 2013 was actually called a targeted review of the comprehensive plan, which is why you got into some very specific wording changes and very narrow concepts, but it was put forth to the planning commission as a targeted review in 13. So and what your recommendation tonight from the planning commission is we want the broad big box whole thing start with the vision and work from there. Well is the June 20th meeting then a public kickoff for the it's the hearing the council will determine whether there should be a kickoff taking all the input that night and then we'll decide. We don't form the steering committee that either. Is that a joint meeting with planning commission? No, it's just town town. You've heard from planning commission now. Right. They submitted their report and you heard from them. Okay. Next step is to hear from the public, the public hearing. Okay. And if the public comes in and lines up and pounds and says, the plans fine don't do anything. You as counselors will have to decide how you feel about that. Well I could encourage the members of the Planning Commission to attend that meeting. Certainly. To hear the public. To hear the public's coming. Certainly but it will not be a joint meeting. It will be a joint meeting session now. And if if if if they're wise and I think most of them are are they'll sit at home with a cold one and watch it on Grand Ackus and sit in the here which was not. Stanley Cup be over by then? Yes, Stanley Cup will be over by then as well the NBA. So hey should all be stuck with Rocky's baseball. Yeah really. I'd just like to reiterate the notion of how the process of selecting the consultants and what their mission will be. And my concern is that we don't go through a process and end up with a generic report or assistance to lead to a generic report by a consultant. Snowmass is unique. One of the things that we faced a number of years ago was the consultants came in and they tried to give us ten comparable communities and none of them were really comparable snowmass. So we're just unique enough that I want to be sure that we avoid spending a lot of money and End up with kind of a generic plan and you know my comment. I know that my fellow commissioners now the other end of the table will Think about this or recognize this but the my concern is that we maintain that rural mountain is that we maintain that rural mountain natural character of snowmass and not end up with kind of a suburbanization process that could be led by consultants that are more used to working in typical communities rather than unique ones. Julian, would you say that could be worked out as in the RFP that would be put together to provide to a consultant? We're going to be fairly broad in solicitation for a comprehensive plan update, just to see what kind of consultants are out there and what they can offer. But our expectation is as we narrow it down and we review the proposals and we choose who should be interviewed that we would have input from the people sitting at this table in terms of what they like to see and what it would seem to make sense for our community. My, I guess my point is that is first of all selection on qualifications, not on price. And then secondly to leave enough flexibility within the structure that we're not buying a $200,000 or $180,000 or $150,000 service as a package, but there's an outline that we can work within and select pieces of assistance that we need and be flexible in how to expand. I don't know if Julianne is a way to structure it or a fee, but if you select the consultant's face on qualification and not on price, then you could theoretically build a flexible outline for how you can get to the services. A clause passed as usual take a little bit longer because you are going through a qualification and then the proposal. So it typically is at two steps. What's the difference though? Our purchasing policy will never require to take the cheapest. The cheapest generally, will never require to take the cheapest. I'll leave it a bad. And then we'll look at qualifications. We'll look at past history. We'll look at levels of comfort. Who's got what experience? And I think your points well made and taken. Yeah, just don't buy the whole package but buy a system that you can work with. That's my recommendation. So along that line, Gus, the I want to bring up, I'm assuming the steering committee and planning commission Will and possibly a member, two of council involved in the steering committee would have some degree of knowing what direction we're going in before this agency is hired. No? I think they're going to come on them. They're going to help set that up and have that broad discussion that we chairmen talked about. Hey, what are those values? What are those things? And I think Mr. Circus talked about, you know, that kind of that broad level. And I think that's where we're recommending that the entire planning commission, the entire town council be involved with that and citizens. And then at that point, you know, that's where the beauty of the consultant comes on. They might very well say, hey, we've done this 50 times you need to be getting the public input right now too and do the public input right out the bat and inform the steering committee and go or they might come back and say we've done this 50 times get the steering committee and develop a couple concepts and then bring that to the public those are you know so how are we going to hire this particular firm we'll put out an RFP and get one on board, okay? Interestingly enough, the code provides that the Planning Commission has the authority to hire consultants and perform studies subject to the prior approval of the Council to carry out their responsibilities in two different places. They have the responsibility to advise the Council on any matter regarding the comprehensive plan and to review the comprehensive plan on a community continuing basis. So when we discuss that we also recognize we have in-house resources. I agree. I just... Add, if I'm a dub-tailed Augustus comment, at that last CCP meeting we had, a member of the public showed up. And he used the word that I thought was a word to that, that were very appropriate. He said, you did all this study, we got pedestrian cross paths and flashing lights, he said, but it's really, you have to be careful stewards of our rural character. And that, I thought that was, that's what we were doing. And that her string control that you have, I think does have, you have an ability to decide, you know, who gets to do that. And I think that's an important question. We can do it. RRP get all these people, but who we pick, how they choose to do it is going to be an important decision. That's why you can have a great debut with us on that one. Or how the RFP is even written so that there is a lot of that. I think you start that. That's right. I think that was my original question to Julianne. It was interpreted of how we write the RFP. And we'll get it out. I mean, I can promise you, you don't want to go through the wordsmithing of an RFP. I mean, it's going to say, let's hire someone great to help us. It's going to be 10 pages to say that. But I think the real critical part, who's the firm or individual or whatever, it's going to actually do the work. And that's checking their qualifications. What have they done recently? Because as Jamie's finding out, there's a different approach to doing comprehensive planning than there was ten years ago and you know we want people who do this on a regular basis and can come in with some fresh ideas and you know have the background of the knowledge to be able to get the information that we need in order to make good decisions. So Jamie do you think we can use whoever put that out to help us? No, that they're the planner. You know, so kids just throw it. This is, I'm giving this to Julia. Yeah, but who put that? It's where complaining is for patients. So they have created state, they have... Do they? It's a workbook. Yeah, are you a member of that association? I'm more than a member of that association. Yeah, okay you a member of that? I'm more than a member of that. So you have access to them if you want to vet somebody through them. You are okay. Then you have access to the red phone. Yes, I do. I can go directly to be planners to get input. Well, do we need to do? All right. The motion tonight would be to accept the Planning Commission report and then set the date for June 20th. We've already pre-noticed it, but if you would give us that formal direction, that'd be us. Okay. So, do I have a motion to accept the planning commissions resolutions this is the recommendation. Recommend that the hearing date. I want to make a motion to approve and accept the resolution number six series two set 2016 of the planning commission and to And to set the date for June 20th for the public care. Okay. Oh, I'll second. All right. All in favor? Aye. Aye. May I pose? No. Okay. Thank you. So I guess the process, sorry. I mean, first up is we know we want to modernize. We're not going to strictly the system that we have. So I guess that would be first part of the RFB processes. We're modernizing that's the first step in the initial fault of the agent. Yeah, I think that we're going to hear all different, for instance, saying all different kinds of approaches and we've got to sift through that and figure out what's going to make the most sense for us. So, Jamie, I think you have to get you a journey or meeting. Okay, we're all through. I'd like to have an inter-canemal lead planning commission adjourned. I have a second. All in favor? All right. Thanks, Hi. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thank you, planning commissioners. Appreciate your help. Okay, let's take a five minute break. You guys, take a really good answer. That's our cut. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to change it. Okay. So we've got town council reports and actions. Anybody have anything? I've got a core meeting on Monday morning. Okay. 8 to 1230. So I'll have something as the next meeting. I'll put the tour with the rotary club to the landfill. Which is pretty interesting and we got some feedback from you know from about ways that dispose of waste, organic materials and yeah I thought I was very interesting the dumps at different place now it was even 10 to 15 years ago. It's incredible. It really is. Yeah, it's like a manufacturing, outdoor manufacturing plant. Yeah, and I was just really curious about the whole single-stream process and how that's all working and, yeah, seems to work. I went to a Roodi water and power presentation a couple of weeks ago on aquatic nuisance species. And it was essentially a review of the program for this summer, which is basically Wednesday through Sunday from 7 a.m. I think to 7 p.m. for reviewing or for inspecting boats that are putting boats, decontaminating boats that are potentially contaminated. And I learned a number of really interesting things. The first and probably the most important is that Colorado is kind of an island in the midst of a sea and there presently aren't any contaminated bodies of water in Colorado with these muscles and even the plants, the mill foil and any other plants. And it really goes to the importance of this program in order to keep all the waterways from being contaminated. Because in Colorado we get lots of boaters who trailer their boats, they go to Lake Powell, they go to Wyoming, they go into these lakes and other bodies of water that are already contaminated and you know they're just moving from from place to place and not everybody realizes matter of fact I didn't realize and not that I do any boating here, but I have done a lot of boating in the past. I didn't realize that in Colorado, you have to dry out the inside of your boat before you can relaunch it into another body of water. So I found this to be a very interesting discussion. I am hopeful that one of the newspapers, Madeleine, might pick up on this particularly since we're at the beginning of the voting season, and might be of interest to people as to why we, you know, why this program takes place and what its purpose is, Madeline, if you think that... Yeah, it's two species of muscles and a couple of species of plants. And once a body of water is, if you will, infected with them, there's no way to get rid of them. All you can do is contain them within the body of water. So it's a pretty serious problem that you don't want to have. So how are we controlling this? Like, it's rude. If somebody comes from a rifle gap, is there somebody there at the ramp there's somebody there at the ramp But it's not you know, it's not seven days a week and it's not son up to sundown Because it was five days a week right now. It's gonna be seven days. Oh, it's five days It's still gonna be five. Yeah, cuz we didn't we couldn't raise enough money to expand the program to seven days Our twenty five hundred bucks didn't do it. No, $2,500 didn't do it. Nope. Well, June and Tasha, you'll be there five days a week then. So, you know, it is hitting miss. I mean, we're only doing it five days a week. Madeline, I can get you at the end. I can give you Mark Fuller's contact information. I know we'd be happy to talk to you. And I really do feel it's worth an article. Okay. And it's working, too, before an eye. It is a real quick question. Did we decide five o'clock because of a couple of young people I'm going to do a five p.m. According to the consent agenda. I don't remember how to do that. Okay. Yeah, because I think Alyssa was going to be late. I think that's why. Okay. I just wanted to know why. I don't have that big meeting card in the five. I do right here. I'm in gonna consent agenda I left Five oh, excuse, it is a work set for, but I think we bumped that one together. I think that was when the list of just coming back. Again, you know, speaking of which the EOTC meeting preparation won't be involved in that work session. So what will be involved in the work session? Well, we could do the situation, the mobility updates and the post-opening. Okay. and post up. Well, Clint and John, you know, I suspect that we have all been asked a lot by the public as to what the status of ordinance 9 is and when there might be resolution on that or at least an announcement on that and can you would you please update us and the public it's the best of what you can as to the status of that and if we are negotiating where where where the status of those negotiations. We're not negotiating. We're reviewing the agreements for compliance with your conditions in ordinance 9. We have not engaged in any negotiations whatsoever. We are making sure that the applicant complies with the conditions that the agreements are in a substance informed directed by you and there, you know, those agreements were all included in the application reviewed by you at the time, but there were some little details that came out that, you know, words were not proper and we're changing those. And then shortly before the time frame for them to submit the final versions, there was a lawsuit filed and here is a Liz Pendance which is noticed to the world that the Lot 3 of base village is subject to litigation. There's a lawsuit that involves Lot 3. That brings into question the applicant's ability to deliver Building 6, which is located on Lot 3, to the town as a community purpose. One of the overarching conditions of the ordinance is that the agreements for building six and the plaza, which is on lot two and three. In other words, the event plaza that they will continue, the agreements need to ensure the continuance of the existence and the ability of the town to utilize those as community purposes in the future. That is a very difficult condition to achieve with a Liz pendants on lot three. So is there a timeline on when this condition needs to be agreed to to be achieved. Does this just go on until the Liz pendants is heard again in whether the case is settled or heard? Not necessarily. You have delegated that authority to determine whether or not the conditions are fulfilled to staff. Right. Staff is giving every opportunity to the applicant to meet that given this emerging condition on the property. They have not done that to staff satisfaction. The applicant has not done that to staff satisfaction to achieve the condition that the early six and the lot to plaza be ensured to be available as community purposes into the future. If we get to a point where we can't continue to, the compliance, they don't get in compliance and there's a rejection by staff, which is essentially a John and I. They have it then have the right to, I think, the terminology is appeal. I don't know. It's essentially an appeal that I don't know if the term, they can revisit, they can come back to counsel for a final determination. That would be after staff advised you in writing that they had failed to meet the conditions of the ordinance and that we recommend that, well, we would terminate it and they would say we want a final determination from the council. John, is there a timeline by which they have? There is not a timeline. There was a timeline for the submission. There is no timeline on the review by staff of the agreements. But time is certainly getting thin because it's been since March 21st when those agreements were submitted in their final. And just three days prior to that, we had a meeting with the principles of the applicant with regard to how are you going to achieve this condition in this building six agreement, which is the insurance that the community purpose goes forward. And we talked through a potential solution being security. And that would basically take the talent back to the cash and lieu of the community purpose. The language that has been proposed by the applicant has not met what staffs understanding was of that and they have attempted to get their sort of occasions since then. So, quick question for you. If I work backwards, there's a drop dead for 2018. Is that correct, John, in terms of deliver? So you almost have to start the building sometime in 2016. I would suggest the late 2016 to deliver in 2018 to get a CO. The time frame is contemplated by the ordinance are really that those buildings would be started in 2017. 2017, I'm sorry. Yeah. There's no, there are no start dates. The only, there was a start date for the public improvement of the roundabout. So that was the only start date. The other ones all have completion dates. And then 2018, if those are not delivered, the investing rights are done. That's correct. So the thin layer of time is associated with getting everything approved in the architectural rendering and for approval blah, blah, blah. Well, and we're coming up on a deadline for the submission of preliminary designs for building six to line one of this year for the town of preliminary designs for building six to I-1 of this year for the town to get feedback. So I think in Clint's weekly memo staff has been going forward with those design input on those design, on those preliminary designs for building sex so that it can meet the community purpose in terms of design. I mean, I think it's fair to say to kind of to back up for a second on December 21st, Council approved the ordinance. In the ordinance there were a number of conditions that need to be continually hit in order to keep that approval in place. That one of them was the March 21st submission. Submission. That was hit. The next one is July. To have these plans for building six, they're working through that. The other one I just skipped over was the start of the roundabout. So they continue to hit the conditions that are required in the ordinance. In those 10 agreements, specifically to Councillor Circus' question, there's 10 agreements, nine of them are very close. I'm very comfortable saying. There's some administrative issues, some clerical issues that need to be corrected. I'm confident that need to be corrected. I'm confident that those will be achieved shortly. The one that John talked about has to do with the Building 6 agreement. And those are the issues that I think that's the one that we're trying to work through now to make sure that the conditions put in the ordinance by the council for the delivery of 6 can be it can be sure. So relative to building 6 because you know I read your your note on Friday and building 6 is still contemplated to be secured by the town for the purpose of snowmass discovery. That's all thinking. If we find that Snowmass Discovery is unable to deliver on the timelines that we're going to be talking about in a few weeks, then do we have the opportunity as a town to revisit what may have been designed for different purposes within to sit six or are you talking more of a shell building? It's a shell building, but when they're doing the shell, they need to design to an end purpose. So it's a higher quality for museums and those kind of things. One of the concepts that they've explored with us was potentially moving the, what I'll call it, the cafe from that street level to the plaza level. By moving it from the plaza level, it would help more activate the plaza better. And so those are the kind of, those are the kind of ideas that they're kicking around now saying how would that work. And so it's a, there's a specific purpose, they're designing towards, but there's definitely an effort to make sure that in case there's. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. I'm not sure if it's in the right place. or when sunrise has to perform, and what if, you know, it gets really confusing as to who is where and who's monitoring the traffic system here. Yeah, I mean, without this is no legal ease, so just managerial ease, whatever that's worth. The conditions in the ordinance is what we're managing, and those are the dates that are specific to the very, to the physical improvements, the design, the designs, those kind of things. That's so we can control, that's so we can ensure compliance with. That lawsuit, we're not a party too. And so we are certainly aware of it. We pay attention to it. We try to evaluate our risks to the town and that's the security. I think John was talking about is how do we ensure that we're in a strong position should something happen without loss? Okay, thank you. I guess on a slightly different subject. You're know from Friday that the town has now purchased the Country Club Town Home 18. What do we initially do with that? Well, we've talked to the HOA about opening it to the rental pool. I believe we've gotten an initial approval, but our goal is to enter into our rental pool. In the short term, or leaving or leaving short shortly I should say. Just a question for you with Rick Passing who has generally been the realtor for town owned units going into free market. Have we selected a new realtor? Thank you. Anybody else? So we have initial or they've given you direction that they are going to come back with designed by July 1. Feel like. Something, yeah, correct. And that's in that's a requirement in the ordinance. It's a condition. And so they're they're working to meet those conditions. So we expect we expect to see that. Yeah. Another update? Well, we've gone through it. We tried to save this. We just really for a lot of. We've stole as long as we could. There was nothing else we could say. We even took a break. You know, in my husband who says we can make it from Denver in 3 1,5 hours, doesn't know what they held like I mean what he's talking And construction oh my god, it is bad I guess in that case Washington to a church. Yeah second All in favor. Hi. Hi Thank you very much next week All in favor. Hi. Hi. Thank you very much. Next week. Same time. Same time. Do you ever get the gavel back or do you keep it? Well, it was in my reach. Thank you.