. . . . Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Denton County Commissioner's Court for Tuesday, November 14th is now in session. This morning, our invocation is be given by Matt Richardson, Director of Public Health, and our pledges will be led by Dwayne Snyder, Construction Project Manager. Will you please stand. Let's pray. Our father, we just thank you for the ability to come before you today and to serve you. Father, we thank you for the people who have gathered here. And we thank you for our decision makers, our leaders. We just ask for wisdom. We ask for the strength to do what is right. Father, we just ask that we can reflect you, beloved, mercy, peace, patience, and kindness. The things that your son espoused when he was on this earth. Father, we ask for the strength and wisdom to reflect that. And Father, we thank you for all you do. We thank you for the protection that you provide. And Father, we thank you for all you do. We thank you for the protection that you provide and Father, we thank you for those that sacrifice for us to protect us. We thank you for that protection. We ask you protect them as they go about their duty and service. Father, we thank you most for your son and his sacrifice and his example. It's through his name we pray, amen. and his example, and so his name we pray, amen. Congratulations. To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic of Winchester stands, on the nation, on the behalf of the individual, the Republic of the United Justice, are all. Honor, the Jackson flag, I pray to you, Jesus, baby, justice for all. On and on. I think it's because maybe I think it's one day. You're not one. You're not. One. Thank you, gentlemen. We have several public comment forms, but I'm thinking that it would be a good idea to first go to item 13b and have some discussion. I think it may answer a lot of the questions that are on people's minds here. As I have said numerous times before, We can't have a discussion about these things or we're in violation of open meetings law. So I drafted a policy and it is just that it's a draft and then you put it on the court and you have some discussion about it and that's what we're going to do today. So hopefully at the end of this discussion, it will answer a lot of the questions that people have about the drafted policy. I also want to say that the article in the newspaper was not totally accurate in that it did not state that besides people having to go online to register for to register to, for a public comment, they do have the ability to call the aid to the courts, excuse me, aid to the courts office and they would either share or treat so it would be doing the registration for them. So that is accessible to people also. So members, you have the draft and I'm opening up for comment, Commissioner Marche. Yeah, I have read through this several times and I haven't a couple of, I don't want to go as far as say heartburn but I have a couple of issues with maybe some of the procedural things that may Maybe trying to put in place first of all I have no issues at all with the Commissioner's Court and the rules of conduct which would be Mr. Court and the rules of conduct, which would be number one and two, the public attendance at Open Meeting at Mr. Court and the failure to adhere to code of conduct. I have no issues with that document at all. The two issues that I have and maybe I'm misreading this, maybe I'm reading too much into it, I don't necessarily, first of all, agree with limiting the amount of people that talk on a certain subject. Now, it has been suggested just a few minutes ago that maybe the limitation rather than the amount of people, the limitation should be in the form of a time frame for a total in totality the discussion on a public comment or on an agenda item. That may be a compromise, but I do not necessarily like the idea of mandatory that you have to register online or by phone call to the judges office. The aid of the court, excuse me, the A to the court before you're able to speak on Tuesday. I think that that's a viable option for those to go online and that cannot be here on Tuesday, that they're able to put in what their comment would be for the record of the court. I think that's a very viable option, but I don't believe that it should be a prerequisite at all for you to be able to speak on Tuesday. So those are high two input. I mean, if we need to take this under consideration again and look at some other drafts that have come your way or some other way in public for another time of discussion, I'm open for that as well. Judge, I have the same problem with, I know that we can do what's in this document, but I have a problem with people having to call in and of course they don't have to, they can register online or they can call in so you don't have to have a computer. But I have a problem with people having to call the date or register online the day before so they can speak on their agenda. Mainly because when you, maybe I'm just visiting the court and I see something on the court that I want to talk about and I haven't called in, I haven't registered. But I think as elected official as public servant, it's our job to hear the people speak and there's been a lot of stuff that we've heard over these last few months that have not been good and some been bad. But still, I think the people have a right to speak and we should listen to them. And as far as the lay on five people to speak, I don't agree with that either. I do agree with you limiting the time. And as Ron said, I agree with the rules of conduct of the court. They need to abide by the rules of conduct of the court. I don't agree with the amount of people speaking, but if it's a subject that many people want to speak on, I think asking them if they would get a spokesperson, if they're all going to say the same thing, not requiring that they do, but asking if they would get a spokesperson. I think would help a lot. I know we, and especially to you, had been through a lot these past few months. And normally we don't have this big of a crowd here that's wanting to speak. And so I think we need to hold our phone requiring that people need to register this week. Lass? Well, I wanted to, okay, see y'all are all handed. Hey, did y'all get the stuff from Cheryl? Yeah, okay. That was a sample policy that when I was in Corpus, the deal in Mary. It's the Ector County. Ector County. Ector County rules a procedure conducted in decorum. And that was what was a profit as a good standard form by the, basically, the County Commissioners Association when I was at the conference in Corpus. I would have brought it earlier, but I thought I had in office upstairs, but I actually had it on the office and sign. And I like the policy that you've offered Judge Warren. Things that I would want to change is and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to have people register ahead of time. I think that's good because if they're going to show up, I think that means they're deliberate and they really have time to think what they want to say. But what I would like to do is if you look at it where it's under Section 5B where it talks about no no on the profit on the profit item that I gave to you from Ektar County. I would recommend that we include this provision that says that there's a limit on any public comment to regarding the amount of people that the max limit be limited to 30 minutes. You know, I got the feeling that we had people who would rather than discussing the items at hand just wanted to disrupt the meeting and stop the business of the county. If you can't say anything within 30 minutes, I think we've got a problem. So I think that's a good thing to have that. And then, you know, I don't like the, you know, some of the stuff that I had suggested was taking out was the, you know, the stuff regarding contempt. But if you look at Section E, I think we should probably, this is, I thought, what a pretty good deal where I talked about in the song, the Profford stuff that I gave you, where it said it's not the intention of the commissioner's court to provide a public forum for the demeaning of any individual, nor is it the intention of the court to allow a member of the public to insult her, the honesty or integrity of the court as a body, or any member or members of the court individually or collectively. And then I thought, this was good, accordingly, profane insulting or threatening language towards the court and or any person in the court's presence, regarding any racial, ethnic or gender slurs or affidets will not be tolerated. That's for everyone in general. And that we let them know that violation of these rules will result in the following sanctions. Canceling of the speakers remaining time, remove of the, from the commissioners courtroom, a civil, possible civil citation and or contempt. And I think, you know, puts people on fair notice and helps us, I guess, all parties involved and engage in a thoughtful discussion as opposed to, and I'll revert back to my comments like the formation of the committee. I thought I was just gonna be a transferring of one kind of very odd discussion from one committee, which is the commission's court to another. But those are the items that I would like to be having incorporated into the policy that Judge Horne brought. Well, that would. Well, it's obviously that we've we've got some more discussion on this judge. So what you'd like to have us take it back and look at it. Well, I'm not in favor some of the things that you gave us, but some of them can be incorporated into it. And if you'll be willing to accept the information that Ron and I change his football. The first thing that commissioner, you'd have an opportunity to speak, go ahead. Sure, thank you, Judge, for bringing this forward. I think it's appropriate. It's a good time to have this conversation. I do agree with Commissioner Coleman's sentiments about I like this language from this association adding, especially that paragraph E, I think that's important. I think there's a balance between, I think we can strike that balance between receiving welcome feedback and input. This is a public process, that's why we meet in public, that's why what we do today is a permanent record of the county. And so I think we need to welcome, and that's what we all signed up for, is that we all signed up to do the work of the people. And so I think how do we balance conducting our business and our meetings and getting input that might be something that we agree with or that we disagree with. I think all that feedback is important. It's how it's delivered to the court. I think having a mechanism whereby people can formally give input on not only public comments, but any item is important. And I think that if we can create a module toward the aid of the court can formally receive that input on any item, I think that will increase public participation, which I think is what we're all about. And so I think we can implement that as soon as technically achievable from an IT perspective and maybe we can get some input as far as the time frame goes from that Kevin and his good folks. But I think that if we, I would like first to be able to do that so people do not have to dig around and find our email addresses and then email each one of us are only their member they can give an official response just like our public comment form. Now this is a hard copy that people fill out when they're here. We'd love to get input from people who maybe not here. And so, and a lot of these people might write a comment and say they do not wish to speak, but they're still given as input that that's very important. And so some people are bashful or can't get off work to come up here. So I think number one, we could create a module to do that. I'm not real keen about limiting the number of people. I think we can look at the time of the time that we're going to consider an item. So there's not a filibuster mentality. And I think we need to receive feedback. Some things are original thought and some things are repetitive of the person before them. So I think that there's a consideration factor from those engaging into public process. And I think we could put language of that effect that say that the presiding officer of the judge will, you know, will may ask if there's numerous people to speak and have a spokesperson and that we give them and the chair could give them more time If someone wants to give a comprehensive talk and they want to speak on behalf of several people But they want to get up and talk for you know four or five six minutes if the chair wants to say they want to have a Presentation from this group of people we're gonna we're gonna have courtesy and extend that to them and let them give a thoughtful presentation So they could all so it could be Comprehensive and give a thoughtful presentation to where they get all, so it could be comprehensive. So that's kind of my thought. I don't think we're ready today. I think this is good input, Commissioner Coleman. And I think George Wondered a very good draft. And I think we could incorporate some of these parts in that. That's kind of where I'm at. Thank you for the comments. I just wanted to say, look, I'm a big believer in transparent transparency and receiving public input and it's a sad day that we have to implement these rules because in the past we've always been very informal about receiving comment but even with these rules that we are going to adopt they're much looser than the city of Denton much much looser than the city of Denton, much, much looser than the city of Denton. And if, and I think that's, you know, of something that's good for us, that shows look, you know, we've, you know, we've attracted more attention, but we're still gonna be more open and transparent than the sort of rules that are adopted by the city of Denton. I've told you, I went over to the city of Denton to announce the 100th anniversary for the Boy Scouts. And I got there only about five minutes beforehand. They wouldn't let me speak because I went into one of the number of persons who got up there on top. And you know, we've allowed people in the middle of the meeting to fill out a public comment statement and jump in there and say something. But Denton is not the only city that I look at. I live in Luizville. And I represent other cities that do allow the same thing that we're allowing. And so everybody's a little bit different. They can be, you know, I ask you. You see something, I'm sorry, Judge Gohia. I'm sorry, I'm in your rough, did you go ahead? I'm at all of you. Maybe the city of Luizville more transparent. I don't live in Lu all the other I think all the other cities let you feel out of code in the middle because all of a sudden you say well I got something on that subject that I didn't realize and and then you go feel like a code and I don't think there's anything wrong with either one of them you but I think all all cities are different in how they handle it and we all have been leaving you're right especially that paragraph E Commissioner Coleman I think is very important they include that because that I think that regarding also the conduct of if it's a finer point on the some of the conduct of the of the speakers. But I'm being married how I really has to do. Well I just like the way she died. Yeah. I think it's more of the succinct and well it had been a long time since Commissioner's Court had addressed policy so I needed to start somewhere and put it in writing. Absolutely. Teresa and Cheryl had already communicated with Dallas Tarrant. I forget where all several different counties to get their policies so we could kind of pick and choose the things that we thought were good out of those. And I don't mind going back to the drawing board. That's fine. I think we're close. I think we're close to it. I think we're close to it. It's not the drawing board. I think we're very close. Yeah. Very, very close. I mean, we'll take another stab at it and... I just think, you know, three... For for it, the thing is that you've discussed and see if we can't come up with a plan. Is there anything else anybody else would like to... I would just like to say that what I see, these are rules that we can basically point back to and give the chair, which is the county judge of this meeting tools to use to make sure that everyone's heard, that everyone is in their opinion is given, beginning in a responsible way, respectful way, as well as we had that same accountability to them. Well, and I think that I appreciate your judge horn and that I think the response of this is your response to put this on to you to talk about it is from a request of some of the residents who said you know they were unclear on some of the rules and expectations of the court and so you're trying to outline that and I think that's a response to the public involvement that we've received and so I mean I think we appreciate your comments and we appreciate your your input and so that is again the public process working and I think you saying you know what we're going to formalize these and adopt some rules of engagement and I think that is exactly what has been requested and and you're doing you're doing just that and so I think it's it sets the standard and expectations like you said commission of marching. margin. Okay so there'll be no action on 13b today. Let's go back to item number one which is for public input for items not listed on the agenda. At this point I usually remind everyone to please turn off your cell phones and comment and saws yeah can we talk to them that's pretty disruptive. Truly they can oh that's Cidia Denton okay I'm sorry I can't do anything about it. Okay item one for public comment and first I have a written or deetric and looks like you have concerns over the posted changes. Did you wish to add anything sir? Yes ma'am actually I do. Good morning Judge Horne commissioners my name is with a deetric 27 year resident of Denton County as I told you before I'm not a public speaker and it's fair to say that if I'm standing up here before you, I'm nervous as a long tailed cat in a rock and chair convention. I mean nervous. Do this because the issue is important to me, the issue of the Confederate monument. That's why I've come to speak for you every time. Because of my work schedule, I'm not able to stay through the full meetings. So if I get a chance to speak, I make certain I get here extra early. As a matter of fact, if Theresa wasn't here, I'd probably be the one putting the coffee on. Maybe it's my pessimistic nature, but I can see some potential pitfalls with an online registration system. What's to prevent someone who opposed to my views from getting on there, coming up with about four or five fake names, filling up all the slots, and then I walk in here and all of a sudden I don't get to speak. They don't show up, they've silenced everybody, including me. When I sign up, will I get a confirmation then and there that tells me that I will get to speak? As I told you guys before, I need to know what order I'm going to get to speak in. In about five minutes, I've got to be out the door so I can make it to work on time. I read all about the fireworks last week after I left. You were right to ban both of those individuals. They were disrupting and they needed to go. And I think that that is the lesson that everybody will see. So I don't know if we need a whole bunch of draconian new rules on public speakers. We just need to sit there and make sure that those people know that the decorum will be held and it needs to be held immediately. I just don't think it's justification for wholesale changes right now. If however you do want to implement these changes, I would hope that you take the time to ensure that the process is both transparent and fair to every citizen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Husbeth. You signed up for both 13B and number one, so we's address whatever you want to address. I don't want to throw you off but what do you think about our proposed rules? First we'll sit you down. I think they're the city. The city is more restrictive. They are right now. So we're starting to deal with that. We meaning those of us don't agree with them. We're starting to deal with those to maybe motivate them to change there. But you're right. They're more restrictive right now. Like when I went there, the regular person would speak. I couldn't get on the agenda because the regular did all fill that up. Yeah, I had told them beforehand if you show up. No, let's just big. I'm sorry, but you've been. No, I don't normally show up to sit in camp for me. My son is on the city council, so we worked that out, buddy, before you get here. No, I'm just kidding. I know you've had you signed up for a lot with the city, so I'm interested in your insight, you know. Yes, I'm going to, yes, I want to, you, you, you do some of the tall girls and get them to do some about the song. Yeah, I, I can fix that too. I, I'm surprised that you started this meeting off like you did and you really made some good points. The points that I would like to make. Growing up as a young kid in North Fort Worth and going to a segregated school, keeping me from speaking is a real big deal to me. I know from your perspective, you don't see it as keeping me from speaking. You're just trying to do the things that's right for the court. But I see them as restricted me from having to say what I need to say. Now, I have to say this being Christian, not churchy, you gotta be polite. You don't want someone just calling your names and saying things is not appropriate. We can't have that. That's not what I'm saying. But when I'm speaking to you and I show you respect, I should have the opportunity to speak to you. Just say what I think. And hopefully you will listen. This is listening. And I have to learn this too. Hear the words. Contemplate on what I'm saying, put yourself in my position and then react. Now you made two comments, some things that I want to just have you think about. The same respect you're asking us to exhibit to you, you need to have the same respect with us when you talk to us and share with us. I have two specifics. You said you in your last testimony you said the interruptions should not be allowed. You shouldn't interrupt you all and you you're saying, because that's just an argument. If I just, you say something, I say something, we're not listening. So, Commissioner Morchin, you said, I'm not picking on you, you just did it, so I'm gonna use this example. You said to Miss Jessica Luta, you said she said you said I'm sorry for interrupting you and she said But you keep interrupting me being saying you say sorry, but then you keep interrupting you said this and this surprised me It really surprised me coming from you You said I won't say I'm sorry anymore. I'll just interrupt you. That's what I've got to know. I can't do that. I shouldn't do that to you. And so I know what you meant. You were ignoring the fact that I said, I'm sorry. That's what you were trying to say. But it came across as what I would say in 1999 and did say. Well, I'm hesitant to say I'm sorry. You're getting ready to say I'm sorry. I thought we decided you wouldn't have to do that in a while. But I knew you would get my point. And Commissioner Eads, you said to Miss Luther, you said this before she went outside, and you surprised me by saying that too. You people, that's not a good thing to start out with because we take, I take that as, oh I'm different from everyone else when you say you people have been causing trouble and I'm paraphrasing and I will get the tape and I will play it for you. That you've been nothing but I don't remember the words disruptive or you are trying to accuse it or not trying to make the process go. And I thought, did you not hear what I said in my speech when I first start talking, that on that committee, I've got to start working with these people, I've just got to. I cannot go in there with what I want to do. And you said, all of you people, and you threw me right under the bus with whoever you were talking about, and that surprised me about you. Because then I thought, then I don't know what to say. If you're just saying that I'm like everyone else, and God hadn't helped me see that I'm different, then I don't know what else to say. So that surprised me about you. Now, Judge and Commissioner Coleman, this court operates so well like it's working because she's very patient. There is no way. Well, she is what I'm here. What that smile off your face. There's no not it school board. City Council will allow me and not my 30 people to speak that day with the patients speak that day with the patients and the way she handled it. And we come after you guys, we really do. And she handles it. And she's got these tails like I told you. I know when it's times up she will take her glasses and do something with them. And but she's patient. And so that's why I think if you come up with a plan just like the gentleman who spoke with me came up with, just as soon people are going to be polite, but have something in place that if they're not, you can have them to leave. That's how you deal with that. And we'll listen to what you say, and we will adjust to what the rules are. That's what we'll do. So if that, thank you for giving me the time. Thank you, Lily. That's really the goal. Both item 13B and one, obviously a lot of people are speaking on both subjects. And I'm not limiting people to the three minutes, but please, let's move this along as best we can so that everybody has an opportunity to express opinions. John Good morning. Morning, everyone. Something I've heard a lot is everyone here saying that we need to attend a county business that we can't spend forever with public comment and I just want to start out by stating that the Public comment of Ditton citizens constituents voters is county business that is a part of what your job as Representatives is to do So Ditton citizens have been speaking in commissioners court More than more than previously in the past. I think we can all agree upon that. I think we need to be very careful in the responses to that. The participation in local government is already extremely low. We want to do whatever we can not to discourage engagement and local politics but to increase it. When we see increased participation in local government and then our local commissioners propose something that limits speakers to five or requires online registration, which it seems you guys have corrected that, and that was a miscommunication. Thank you for that. When that happens, it's a bit disturbing because it looks like the reason for limiting speakers to five was it became more work for you guys to listen to all these public comments of all the citizens who are now getting involved. It doesn't send a good message. I wanted to speak to the draft directly for the proposed code of conduct. It says registered persons must be prepared to be present for the entire meeting. Well that's another problem in discouraging people to be involved in public comment. I personally, I have to talk to my manager, you know, a week or so in advance and I have to say I'm going to be late on Tuesday at 9 a.m. I might not be in until 10 or 11. If I have to take out my whole day, I'm going to have to say, I'll be out of office for that day. And that's going to affect my career. And I'm put in an uncomfortable position of choosing between exercising my right to express my free speech and give my public comment and the security of my job. That's not a place we wanna be in, that is not reflective of the United States of America. And that's one reason I could not stand for the pledge in this courtroom is because you're not respecting free speech by trying to limit it to five speakers. I hope that I can continue to stand in the future as you all continue or start to respect that freedom of speech by not limiting it. I'd also like to say that the talk of decorum is a bit insensing. I agree that people need to not speak from the crowd. I agree that the court needs to be held. I feel that many of the speakers on agenda items, when their opinions clash more with that of the commissioners, they seem to get interrupted more or otherwise are taken very, they're assumed to be coming from a bad place and it reflects in the responses you all give in your voices, some being worse than others. I hope that in the future you'll all take a second, especially when it's someone that you really disagree with, someone that really gets to notice how you're responding to that person and whether or not you might be taking up their, in some cases already limited time. I also wanted to cover the transparency of online registration. I'm a computer programmer. That's what I do for money during the day. I'm wondering how that's going to be implemented. I'm wondering once people sign up, that list will go to you guys. Y'all are going to pick it as someone who may have an unpopular opinion in the eyes of the commissioners. How am I supposed to know that if I sign up first, that I will be picked in that first come first. So I want transparency into that process. I don't want to have to trust you guys. Sadly, I don't have adequate proof that I can do that yet. I hope that changes. So I'd like to ask for a transparency there. Can you wrap up please? I have some comments when he's done. Yes, ma'am. That's all's all I have with the comments please. Well Like I've said, I think we do a good job of transparency. We're actually more Easier to get to speak to than the city of Denton, which is what I've chosen you as an example Under the Open Meetings Act, we don't even have to allow public comment And you may disagree with that and if that's true, that's okay You can go to Austin and seek to have the Open Meetings Act changed but we actually do more than what's required under the Open Meetings Act so I think it's a disingenuous for you to criticize us for that because we're really trying to strive in equilibrium. The other thing is is that I don't think you understand not to insult you what county business is. County business is running a $250 million budget, managing several departments, and each of us doing our projects for Indiana mainly maintaining road and bridge. It is not necessarily spending all our time regarding what happens beyond the square, no matter how beloved it is by residents of the city of Denver. So we actually have about 1600 employees. We have to manage those, the HR for that, and all those employees. And at some point, we need to get to that business. And I don't think it's unfair for us to say, look, we've beaten this horse to death. We all have a difference of agreement. That doesn't mean you get to filibuster it and bully people until you get what you want. That's why I think I would defend the comments that says we need to get the Andy made that we need to get to county business because we fund the DA's office, the district clerk, the county clerk, the constables, the sheriff, the MHMR, indigent health, all the roads and bridges. A whole bunch of stuff with CPS, adult protective services, the probate court, the district courts, the county courts. We fund contracts to put people in jail, we keep people in jail for other entities, we do stuff regarding reimbursements from social security. There's a lot of stuff for county business. In the grand scheme of things, the county memorial that's on the square is a diminimous portion. And it was, in my opinion, we were spending an inordinate amount of time on something that has been discussed many times through the years. So I think it's unfair for you to characterize it in that manner. That's what county business is. Plus, if you don't like the way the rules are, I say take your activism to the place that makes those rules. We do not make the laws for the state of Texas. That is done in Austin. We try to implement them in the best way we can given the paradigm we exist under. And in my opinion, we've done a very good job of being transparent. So I would disagree with you. Okay, do I get some time to respond to that? Okay, I'd like to clarify that I'm not speaking about any issue in particular. I'm speaking about citizens right to public comment in general. This isn't about any certain issue. I want to say that I know that county business is much more than public comment. I do pay attention to that. In theory, I understand what you're saying. We could sit here and listen to public comment all day and then have no time for actual county business. What you're the line you were drawing between those two. And practice though, when the most people that were here for the Confederate Monument Agenda Item a few weeks ago, were here the longest public comment lasted for three hours. Maybe you think that's too much, maybe not. But I would definitely say that that still leaves time for county business when historically, these sessions have lasted an hour and a half to two hours, going back and looking at the video run links. So in theory, I get what you're saying, but in practice, it hasn't been proven, so you shouldn't base any points you're making on that. In regards to comparing the Commissioner's Court to City Council, it's never a good look to compare yourself to someone that That isn't as good as you and then you use that as an excuse to not get better. I'm disappointed to hear you say that actually. I'm disappointed that you're failing to understand that concept. Okay, let's finish up please. All right, I just want you to agree on something. We're both disappointed. All right, I just wanted to thank you all and wanted to say please stand up for the voices of Denton and continue listening to public comment, do not limit it to five people. I think it should be a lot more open than that. If I had to choose a timeframe would be better. I am against the new code, the proposed code of conduct. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to clarify under item one for public comment. There's not usually back and forth but since the subject is also 13P and people have signed up for both items that is the posted agenda items so I'm allowing the back and forth today and the next person to speak would be, hmm, is that Shay, is that weaver? Warren. Warren, I'm sorry, I can't read you ready. Go ahead. Mr. Warren, signed up for 13B. Go ahead. My name is Shay Warren. Do I have to state my address? No, go ahead. Okay. In its current form, I have to state my address? Go ahead. OK. In its current form, I failed to see the benefit of 13B. I definitely see the benefit of allowing people who couldn't come today to register online. But I don't see the benefit of forcing them to register online or call. Isn't showing up at 9 AM on a Tuesday when so many of us have both work and school enough to prove our commitment to saying something that's well thought out when especially considering that one part of the proposed changes is warning us that we should expect to stay for the entire meeting when again not all of us have the luxury of being able to carve out two hours of our time from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. on a Tuesday. You know, we got class or work Family, etc., etc., etc. I also have to second with the previous speakers said in regards to the comparison to the Denton City Council I understand that you're saying you're doing more than the bare minimum and I do appreciate that a lot But I also feel that if you're making the point that you're doing the more than the bare minimum and I do appreciate that a lot but I also feel that if you're making the point that you're doing the more than the bare minimum it's not best to compare to something that's we all consider to be bad because just because you're a little bit better than what we consider awful doesn't mean it's not still bad. I don't think we're a little bit better I think we're a lot better. A lot better that's a fair point but like if we are a lot better I think that could stand on its own without making a comparison and that's all I wanted to say I guess my point is you're reading a lot of people I recognize who also have been to the city I'm wondering why you're complaining about us when There's another entity that doesn't you know give you the kind of time a day we did I just say oh Yeah, I think we should have been able to come speak to us in the manner that you do Yeah, yeah, we should definitely be going to the City Council because they refuse to say anything about the Confederate monument. They're like stone-faced silent about it. And what's your other subject? Sorry. I think that's half full. Yeah. Are we? Are we? Are we on 13B? Are we talking about 13B? No, we're talking about both 13B and in item one. I wanted to sign up for both. I'd just like to thank you for being here. I haven't seen you here before. I would like to say I think Judge Horn has done a good job of facilitating our meetings in a very efficient way. And today is evidence of that again that she did y'all's item first. She looks around the room, looks and see if there's a large public participation on items and moves agenda around. And that's what we're doing this item first. That's the very first thing she did so y'all could go about your way. And that's what we're doing this item first. That's the very first thing she did, so y'all could go about your way. And that's not unique to today. That she has done that for years and years. And I wish many of our other local governments did the same thing. As Judge Horne looks and sees, we have attorneys in the room where other officials or items, if there's people in the audience that need to get on with their day I think that's the end of the agenda. I think that's the end of the agenda. I think that's the end of the agenda. I think that's the end of the agenda. I think that's the end of the agenda. I think that's the have lawyers or people who are trying to buy the hour we want to get them in and out of here I like I mean Mary and I may not disagree on stuff, but we like saving money Thanks for being here, but I wanted to kind of highlight that I hadn't seen here before but the fact that This item which was of concern to the public is the first that's not unique There's two things that I'd like to say at this point one If I recall correctly flower mound doesn't even take their public comment till the end of their meeting. So it's necessary for the public to sit there through whatever discussion they have on the agenda that day and then they take up public comment at the end. I think that's correct. And the other thing that I was thinking of as you were speaking, I would like to have in conjunction with the online registration for speaking for people that aren't here or can't be here to submit their comments and those would be reproduced and shared with all members of court so that they'd like to get their comments to all of us but they can't be here that day. It gives them a mechanism to do so. It's awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Next would be Mallory Skinner. Do I say that correctly? OK. Mallory will be followed by Paxton Swisher. Mallory, good morning. Good morning. I would like to thank those of you who have spoken out against limiting the number of people speaking. Making sure everyone has a voice is really important to me. When I was younger, I didn't, or I couldn't really speak. It wasn't until in third grade, we realized that I was born with a very severe hearing disorder. I finally got hearing aids, but when I would go to class or go to school, other kids would steal the hearing aids for me and I couldn't speak. I couldn't hear what people were talking. So essentially my voice is taken away. And hearing this, it kind of feels a lot like being back in third grade and having my hearing aids taken again and limiting the people who can speak or what they can say or who it is. So I would just like to thank you for speaking out against that. Thank you. Next is swishing. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning. Yeah, echo the same sentiments that it's awesome. I want to highlight the things that Commissioner Marchin said and Mitchell and needs that I don't think we need to limit the number of speakers. I actually think that would hinder it. I'm fine with the three minute limit and I'm even fine with Commissioner Coleman, your idea of former time in Corporate Christie, I think he said, about there was a 30 minutes. Now I would, because of three minutes per, that would limit it to 10 speakers about, right? I have two, 15 minutes speakers. I would prefer to get the maximum amount of people. Like, if it was a three minute limit for person, that would be my only like worry with it. And I would in fact think it maybe, buff that time if you were to put that in place. But I wanna highlight the online component, not of requiring registration, but of allowing someone to type in their comment to you. I especially UNT students, they can't make it to this and like, oh, I wish I could. And I have, you know, something can't make it to this and like, oh I wish I could and I have something I'd like to say on that. And that would just not only be a great outlet and show that you guys are really open to hearing the public, but it would also just be really efficient too because then I carpool people here because a lot of students, you know, especially if you're freshman year, don't have cars and stuff. So just did it. That's a great idea. So I Thank you. Is it sweet? New? Mary said it may have to read. It looks like SWE, ENE, you. That's you, okay. Morning. Good morning. I would also like to echo the concerns about the pro-states, the Coastal Convect, and thank the commissioners for their suggestions on how to improve them. And if those suggestions were implemented, the online mechanism, but not as a requirement, a time limit, not a person limit, so on and so forth, specifying what the rules of conduct are. I think this would be a much better change to the code of conduct that I would really support rather than its current version which I'm opposed to concerns about how it affects people's ability to speak to you on a regular basis given that they still have work in school. I still take issue with some language in the draft about how speaking to you is a privilege when it's a right. I feel I must single out Commissioner Coleman for repeatedly bringing up the open knees back and how the didn't city council meetings go and Unfortunately, I mean I mean I hate to tell you this but if you get your open meetings act manual from the Texas Attorney General it says that we don't have to provide for public comment It's not provided now you can always call your representative not provided. Now you can always call your representative. In fact, I mean Mr. Hudson's but has made a meeting to speak to me earlier today. So I don't think that I'm mischaracterizing that and I object to you saying that. I'm giving you the current status of the Open Meanings Act. If you're unhappy with that I suggest you talk to Senator Nelson, Senator Estes, or your Pluthororos State Raps. Because we don't make those rules. Please continue. If you have something else you'd like to say. But we'd like to say that having been to the City Council meeting just once still felt very streamlined, very, I will say welcoming, which I don't always get from this court, or it's your comments, comments. I, you can look at me, I'm here. Yeah. I mean, this is a posted item, we can discuss this. I mean, this is a posted item. We can discuss this. It seems like a logical fallacy to me. Let me use a hypothetical. If... Do you only feel you're beholden to rules that are explicitly laid out? Like, if it's not explicitly told as a rule, you don't feel any obligation to do it. So if there's like a cookie jar in the room, everyone's supposed to get one cookie just as a general form sharing, but doesn't say anywhere in the room. Would you feel well within your rights to take two cookies because it doesn't explicitly say that? I guess I don't understand. Okay, I'll. I think it's just as a lawyer who's run open meetings before. I think it's when people come up and say it's their right to speak at a public meeting, I say I think it's good policy to allow the public to speak, but that under the Open Meetings Act, public comments are not required. And I think when you said what you did, you were mischaracterizing what I was saying. And like I had stated earlier, I like to think of my glasses being half full as opposed to half empty. I think it's a good thing that in the past that we had a fairly open dialogue and we pretty much let people sign up at the last minute. We pretty much let a whole bunch of people come in and talk. We really didn't regulate much of what they said. We really didn't even say if you were talking an agenda item whether it needed to be germane or not. I don't think that's unfair for me to say what the current state of the law is. If you're unhappy with that, that's fine, but I think as a result of this past events we're more formalizing what's going on. So I'm confused I guess. Gentlemen, I want to get us back on track. Yeah, yeah. Question and commission Marchin has a question. Have you started? Go ahead. Yes, sir. Of the comments that you've heard this morning, I may, I heard you are a lube to the online. I'm making a presumption here because I didn't clearly hear it from you that the online is favorable to you as a vehicle to add comments to the court record for those who could not attend the meeting on the following day. Is that? Yes, sir. not attend the meeting on the following day. Is that? Yes, sir. I am in fear of that motion. I'm supposed to say the making a requirement we're speaking. OK. That's what I thought I heard you say. And then as far as the time limits are concerned, are you comfortable with what Mr. Paxton summarized that some of us have here said that the suggestion by Commissioner Coleman of rather than limiting a certain amount of people to speak and the time that they are to speak to limit it to a 30 minute window of opportunity to speak on a specific agenda item or a public comment. That's what Mr. Schwing, did I summarize that correctly, sir? Yeah, but that as a baseline. A time limit rather than number of people right What what is your feeling about that sir? I Do remember mr. Swisher about that perhaps more than 30 minutes maybe like 40 minutes for the purple but that's At the deal that can be discussed, but the the I'll just say the average. I'm going to buy quickly. You know, and we've been at this almost an hour now. Well, have we? With just a limited number of people. And I've got one more speaker here, and I want to give her an opportunity to speak. So please wrap up. Would you like to say if anything? No, I think I've said everything. Thank you. OK. Thank you. Jennifer Lane is the last public speaker. Thank you very much. I agree with the time limit rather than the person limit and perhaps it should remain somewhat open. Do I need to give my name and address Jennifer Lane, Denton, Texas? Perhaps it should be somewhat flexible, because there is a bit of a catch-22 here in that, people have been described as having, well, you know, we're Americans, so our attention span is 15 seconds, and people have described the interest in this issue as being very fleeting, very, you know, sort of a national hysteria, you name it. But it isn't. It really is sustained. And in order to show that sustained to the public, you know, the public isn't going to read the minutes, but they might watch, some public might watch the transcript. I wanted to read a letter. I think this also could maybe, if you like, could use some perhaps suggested edits from the public, maybe not. But I'd be happy to look at it and send some if you want. I wrote a letter to the court and responded to very graciously by Commissioner Mitchell and Commissioner Eads, and I'd like to read it aloud so that more people can know about it. And my, I also believe that when we are given three minutes to speak, we should speak. And then, if there's questions and discussion, it can occur. I was disappointed this morning last week, I should say, by the interruption of my testimony in order to denigrate harass and ban Ms. Jessica Luther. Ms. Luther has been repeatedly interrupted when she attempts to speak to the court. Today, last week, when this happened, Miss Luther was already leaving the courtroom. Therefore, she should not have been gabbled and certainly should not have been banned. Instead, she should have been allowed to speak without interruption until her three minutes were up. Our up. Her research findings are vitally important to this process. The court and the public need to hear them. I believe that the very reason Ms. Luther has been treated so badly, I would say especially, badly, is the acuity of her research. Her findings have made the court at last recognize its embarrassing negligence toward the condition of the Confederate soldier monument, toward the truth about the county's racist and segregated history, for the elderly African-American citizens of Denton who have presented their memories only to be gas-lighted, and above all, toward Mr. Willie Hutzbeth's endurance and commitment, is because of Miss Luther's research that the court is finally addressing the monument issue at all, 18 years of Mr. Hutspitz persistence did not achieve what Miss Luther's findings in the court's own archives had achieved. This is unfortunate but true. The outburst towards Miss Luther interrupted the effort I made to draw attention to the still existing possibility which the court is thus far missed and may entirely miss if it doesn't act swiftly. Of a celebratory and healing resolution in which the monument's fountains would be restored and turned on in time for its hunt with anniversary. I attempted to describe a celebration in which all people would be invited to drink starting with Willie Hutsbeth, his granddaughters, and other dendon African-Americans still living, who may remember being unable to drink from the fountains during the 1920s through 1950s when they were segregated. And any others who would have been prohibited when the statue was initially built and for decades afterwards. Sadly, around the time when Jim Crow was finally brought to a legal halt, the Fountains apparently stopped working and were never repaired. For the monument's safety and that of the public is part two of this proposed celebratory and healing scenario. If the Fountains were made workable outdoors for the 100th anniversary, the monument should afterwards be moved permanently indoors. Surrounded by historical exhibits to address the full truth about its history using reliable historical research, lectures, art exhibits, and other ways of educating the public would enhance the value of preserving the monument. Meanwhile, perhaps a still better scenario would be to move the monument indoors first where the fountains might be more easily hooked up. In this scenario, too, the history would be actively corrected and all people invited to drink from the fountains beginning with the list cited above. As above, once moved indoors, the monument would be surrounded by a serious and thorough permanent exhibit. A lecture series, artistic historical exhibits and getting the fountains working again would help the public embrace the move. Instead, we are unfortunately still having to wrestle with ongoing attempts to perpetuate lost cause fantasies about the Civil War. Some presented by commissioners themselves. This is shameful and intolerable because of the stubbornness of this myth in order to get even as far as we have, the impact of Jim Crow racism in the history of the monument and its relationship to the forced move of Quaker Town residents has had to be presented in recent weeks to the court and to the public in the clearest and strongest possible terms. I and others are calling for the court to separate itself from this racist past in unambiguous terms. This is not disingenuous. I say that word because it was used to describe me, which is odd because I am capable of having enemies on all sides of, because of being honest. My co-travelers don't like me very much. That's what I spelt out. Just like I do here. So going on to, it is not disingeningenuous nor is speaking out against the racist origins of this monument in any conflict whatsoever with suggested positive actions. Let me read that again. Coming across strongly about the history is not disingenuous. It is not in conflict suggesting a celebratory healing solution to this is not in conflict with the strong messages that have been coming forward in this courtroom about this issue. Nor is speaking out against the racist origins of this monument in any conflict whatsoever with suggested positive actions. The county still has a chance to do this right and the commissioners still have a chance to lead. I actually don't see a real need for an ad hoc committee except as an improvement over refusing to address this issue at all. Stonewalling for years all attempts to have this item put on the agenda. I worry that the committee might stall what could simply be a matter of tasking county staff with providing proposals and cost analyses for the two positive and healing scenarios offered above. I hope that committee will not turn out to be a quagmire. And so therefore I read that because I believe that we still need to come and speak until we are sure that the court is moving forward and leading on this issue rather than resisting, if I may say so. And I'm happy to take, you know, I don't like to be interrupted particularly in the way that it was happening last week, especially to be called disingenuous because that's a long shot. But I would like very much to answer any questions. I don't know any questions. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. What's our next agenda? I'll have a look. Well, actually, uh, we're going to take the revisions and kind of move forward or. We're going to take what was submitted, the draft that was submitted, work on it some more and come back to y'all and take all the comments into consideration and you know the next draft may not be the final draft again you know just take some discussion but like I said earlier you got to start somewhere and it was incumbent upon me to put something in writing so I did and appreciate it. Tough to do a first draft. It. Tough to do a first draft. It is difficult to do a first draft. Well, and that was taken from other area counties. Yeah, it was. I mean, I did. Cheryl and Theresa did a good job of getting input from other counties to let us kind of pick from the parts that we liked or didn't like. And I'd like to say, you've got to start somewhere. OK. Also under public public comment the chair is going to take this time to tell you that about now there is a press release coming out. Hmm. I didn't know I'd get choked up so early. Heh heh. Mmm. In County Judge Mary Horne, today announced she will retire at the end of her current term. Mmm. Denton County Judge has served since June of 2002. Previously, she served as the Denton County Taxicester Collector for nearly a decade. Judge Horne was the first female elected to the Office of Denton County Taxicester Collector. The first female elected is Denton County Judge and is the longest serving Denton County Judge in Denton County history. County Tax Assessor Collector horned advance the interest of Denton County by successfully drafting and nine state laws that have improved the lives of all Texans and saved literally thousands of tax dollars for city schools and all county residents by successfully working for consolidated tax collection. In 1999, the Tax Successor Collector Association nominated Judge Horn as the Tax Successor Collector the year and she was given a lifetime honoring membership in the association for her work and dedication to the profession. I am proud of my record in office and I am proud of the people that I had the honor to serve with. I can't look at bomb at this point. Lots of change. Lots of change. Okay. Indulge me just a minute. Ha ha ha. We have accomplished amazing things during my 15 years as county judge. It has been an honor to have the privilege to do this and I want to thank the people of Denton County for giving me this incredible opportunity. Horn has distinguished herself by keeping a high level of services with a very low tax rate. Denton County continues to be one of the fastest growing counties in the nation, and its population is increased by 65% since Horn took office. That's pretty incredible if you think about it. One of Horn's top priorities has been focused on improving roads and mobility. Horn spearheaded two road bond packages overwhelmingly approved by the voters in 2004 and 2008. It allowed the county to leverage $335 million in local funds with state, federal, and regional partners to bring over $3 billion in road improvements during her tenure. Every road from US 380 South has been constructed, reconstructed, or is fully funded for reconstruction. All the road projects I've worked on are important, but I was most happy about the ribbon cutting for the substantial completion of the I-35E Phase One project. Another priority was construction improvements in county facilities to expand and improve availability of services for citizens. You can do it again. Oh, you are in trouble. Is that double? That'd be, that'd be five. Yeah, double. Can you take a check? No. Projects include administrative complex phase one, which was the Health Department and CPS, phase two, technology services, elections, facilities, and adult probation. Phase three is in the design phase. Other projects are the Charlie Cole Building, HVAC, Upgrade and Security Upgrade, DA Annex Building, County Government Centers and Carroll, Nebraska, South West, Corridor Tiles, Copeland Government Center, Denton Courts Building Construction on 2nd and 4th floors, lower level remediation and ADA upgrade. Judge Horne also supported work on county law enforcement facilities, road and bridge east and design, remodel and construction of Lee Walker-Govman-Central Building Bay and B. Horn, who has never been shy, is also not shy to talk about her successor. I support those working to encourage Andy Eads to run for county judge. Commissioner Eads and I have worked well together, and I know he will work hard. Oh boy, for the citizens of Denton County, the good folks of Denton County can trust Andy. You know, all of us have experienced a big decision to run for office. You're putting not only yourself, your family, your friends, the people that help you through an awful lot. It's stressful, it's difficult. I can go raise money for somebody I really believe in that's running for office, but you have to ask for yourself. It's very difficult. And the first time you get up in front of a group of people and try to sell yourself is the way they need to come vote for you in the next election. Anybody that hasn't done it, you just don't understand how difficult that really is. I remember the first time I did that running for a tax assessor, I felt like a deer in the headlights. And I probably looked like a two. You make yourself notes, because there's things important points you want to make when you get up there and your brain goes out the window. You remember when you're driving home, that's very true. So when these people put themselves out there to run You remember when you're driving home, that's very true. So when these people put themselves out there to run for office, cut a little slack. It's not easy. Let me finish this. Yeah, that would be good. To the rescue, thank you. Good. Okay. Mary and former State Representative Jim Horn have been married for 50 years. I was child-bride. Jim was first elected Dent County as Republican Party Chair in 1972 and went on to serve in the Texas House for 18 years. Bringing the people of Denton County more than 40 years of public service from the Horn family. Mary and Jim F2 grown children and four grandchildren. Their daughter Jennifer graduated from Denton High School in 1972. In the University of Texas in 1995 she has found her president of J.H.L. Company, rocker productions, and Austin Best Events. Jennifer serves as immediate past board president of the Susan G. Coleman Austin affiliate, and is executive board member of the greater Austin Chamber of Commerce. Jennifer also serves on the board of Foster Angels of Central Texas as a member of the Dell Children's Hospital Trust in founding member of the Children's Advocacy Center of Texas Women of Courage. Jennifer Lysen Austin with her husband Don Stevens and children Morgan, Mikey Malley. Sun Jim graduated from Liberty Christian School in 97 in the United States Military Academy at West Point, 2001. Major Jim Horn returned from his third tour of duty in Iraq in August of 2010 and received his master's degree in the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Island in November of 2011. After working with a strategic studies group at the Naval War College for 11 months, Major Horn deployed to Afghanistan and then served with 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team Station in Vichens, Italy for two and a half years, followed by serving six months in Qatar. Major Horn is presently professor of military science and chairman of military science department of the University of Houston, Major Horn and his wife Jennifer Davis Horn have won son, Ashden. So, that's it. You did a good job, right? Did everybody do that? You're right. Okay, thank you. Okay. Composer. Yeah, big day. It really is just as hard to make the decision to not run as it is too run. Sounds crazy to say but it's true. Okay, let's move on and let somebody else do some talking. How about that? Members, item two to the consent agenda or other items you would like to ask some discussion on if we have a motion. So moved. Motion by Commissioner Marchant, seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Hearing the questions on favor, please say aye. Aye, post, your name. Motion does carry. Consent agenda today, since it's of 2a, which is approval of the order making appointments. Looks like HR has been busy again. We have promotion in the, oh boy I can't even see. Okay that's better. We have a promotion in the probate court we have a demotion in the district attorney's office. We have two new hires in the DA's office. We have a demotion in the district attorney's office. We have two new hires in the DA's office. We have a new hire in the county jail. We have a demotion in the sheriff's department. We have two new hires in Constable precinct six and a new hire in Brodenbridge, West. To be as approval intro departmental transfers, to see as approval payroll. 2D is approval of RUN, renewal of RFP-10152-321, voluntary benefits to AFLAC for accident sickness, disability, that's A, B is short term disability, and C is cancer expense protection, and E is hospitalization confinement. To E is approval of purchase of workers' compensation insurance coverage with Texas Association of County's Risk Management pool for 2018. 5A is approval of bill report, payments for CSDD, community corrections, TIP, shares, training, shares forfeiture, and VIP interests and. Forfeiture funds are represented for recording purposes only good morning James Wells. Good morning, Judge Commissioners. I have approval to bills with the corrections as noted that's four deletions. I believe those are fire calls that were figured out from wrong right and into two additions. That's all questions I have. Okay. We have any questions. Do we have a motion? I will some move. Motion by Commissioner Coleman, second and by Commissioner Eads. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Post a name. Motion does carry. Six A is approval use of excess funds from the Southwest Courthouse. 2015 tax note fund and the numbers there for the purpose of purchasing additional needed items for the facility and let's take six B at the same time because that is approval use of excess funds from the fiscal government center 2013 tax notes budget line item is posted for the purpose of purchasing additional items needed for that facility. I move for approval. Motion by Commissioner Eads. Second. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Other questions? Hearing none, all in favor, please aye. Aye, posting, aye. Motion carries. Six C is approval specifications and further advertised for architectural services for a new records management facility commissioner Eads did you get your questions? Yes ma'am thinking I'll I'm moved for approval. Okay we have a approval by commissioner Eads. I'll second. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Are there any other questions? Here none all in favor please say aye. Aye Posting a motion does carry seven a is approval budget amendment quest 1 0 0 2 1 0 2 In case revenues and roll over unspent funds for this is national association of county and city health officials 2017 to 2018 Budget for public health clinical professional services. This is for the medical reserve core training services. This is for the medical reserve core training, not a $3,500. Motion by Commissioner Marchant, seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Hearing no questions. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, aye. Motion carries. 7B is approval of Budget of Mental Quest 100222. Zero due to case revenues and row over unspent funds from 2017 to 2018 for various operating line names. For public health, this is Zika funding grant in the amount of $192,678. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. Hearing the questions on favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed, aye. Named? Motion carries. 7C is approval of Budget of Medicalist 100230 to Grace Redness. And rule over unspent funds from 2017 to 2018 and allocate expenditures for salary, assistance, benefits, and various and operating lie dynamics for public health cities readiness initiative grant. This is the amount of $85,823. Motion by Commissioner Marchant. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, Senate. Motion carries. Seven days of approval, budget of my request, 1-0-0, 2-4-0 to increase revenues and Roll over unspent funds from 2017 to 2018 expenditures to salary system benefits and various item Operating line items for public health preparedness grant. This is bioterrorism grant in the amount of 392,941. Motion by Commissioner Marchin. Seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Other questions? Any none? In favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposing. Any motion to carry. I think we can take 10 a and b together. 10 a is approval. Final plaid for Hooper edition, but one to do two, block A, this is 49.706 acres, this is in commission of increasing four, and ten B is approval, final plaid for arrow, broke phase two A, commissioner, increasing one. Some move. Second. Motion by commissioner Ead, seconded by Commissioner Coleman. Are there any questions or comments? Hearing none on favor, please say aye. Aye. Posts in a motion does carry. 10C is approval of the. I already did that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought we already did it. We already did 10A and B. I would have done C2 if I realized it. NC is approval of the final plat for arrow broke phase 2B, Commissioner Prisindt won. I move for approval. Thank you. Motion by Commissioner Coleman, say then by Commissioner Marchin. I'll in favor please say aye. Aye, post and a motion carries. Frank Phillips is here for 13A, which is approval of Canvas in November 7, 2017 constitutional amendment election Murray Frank I want to judge commissioners a place on your podiums. I have Report for the results of the constitutional amendments from November 7th election Once you approve the canvas those will become official for Denton County We'll forward those to the Secretary of State and they'll perform a state canvas the election. Once you approve the canvas, those will become official for Denton County. We'll forward those to the Secretary of State and then they'll perform a state canvas. I move for approval. Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Marching. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell hearing no questions or discussion. I would like to make a comment. Okay. On favor, please say aye. Aye. Post-Siné. Motion does carry commissioner. Judge, I just like members. I just like to compliment Frank publicly for the excellence in which they delivered this election and his Frank and your whole team and all of our election workers. I'd like to think our election workers who gave their time and worked. It was not a quiet election as many constitutional elections are. And I appreciate them working those polls. I think that all the feedback that I received was very positive on how the equipment worked. The technology that we invested in and the training the job implement is obviously paid off. So I just want to give you all kudos and give you a shout out for a job well done because it I think it was very efficient and the equipment really paid off. Thank you very much. I laid out the plan but it was my staff that implemented it. That's right. I appreciate it. All right. Thank you very much. was my staff that implemented it. They are our last lay and I appreciate it. All right. Thank you very much. I'm going to make you wait so long. All right. 13C is approval of casting votes for the Denton Central of Presid District Board of Directors. We delayed this from last week. We talked about it. We'll just split the votes among our nominees. Yes, just let them. We have a total of 593 votes. So we'd give 296 to George Prior for example and 297 to David Terry is that okay? Yes, ma'am. Okay, that's my motion. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Any further discussion? Here none all in favor please say aye. Aye. Aye, post you name. Motion is carried. Thank you. 13D is approval of appointments to the county advisory committee to discuss. No, we are. Yeah, we haven't done that. I'm sorry. To discuss all solutions to determine a solution, I'm sorry, resolution involving the competitor. So the statute, Commissioner Mitchell, did you have a, I don't have his information, so let me, with a further opinion. Let's go ahead and approve it so we can get him on the committee and get his information to us so that because Peggy Riddle has already. They're going to meet on Friday. It's the average sent you. Alfred Sanchez. Okay, great. Get that information to us as soon as possible because I know Peggy has sent an email to them to see if there was a mutually agreeable time The majority of them could get together and they're gonna they're gonna get that go on this Friday. I'll second the motion Made the motion Bobby that be your emotion Mr. Mitchell made the motion commissioner Ead seconded the motion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye, Poes, Cine. Motion to carry. Thank you. Okay. 14A is approval of 2017, 2018, their local cooperation agreements for a library services between Dan County, Texas and Aubrey area library. Middifoster Public Library and Ponder, Carrollton Public Library, Justin Community Library and Pilot Point Community Library. I'm going to prove that. Motion by Commissioner Coleman. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Hearing no discussion on favor please say aye. Aye, post, aye. Motion carries. 14b is approval of payment from all state indemnity company. Clean number is posted in the amount of $11,545 for a total settlement amount of 22,022,088 cents arising from the motor vehicle accident which occurred on July 11, 2017. Motion by Commissioner Mitchell. Seconded by Commissioner Eads. on the board. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The first one is the 16A is a public hearing to discuss and take formal action on the proposed amendment of Prairie Mound Cemetery Road from Old Justin Road. Suddenly approximately 2,200 linear feet located in that kind of commissioner of persons for we need a motion to go into our public hearings. It's on move. Motion by Commissioner Eads. Seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye, post, aye. Motion does carry. OK. Members, this is the third and last part of the old Prairie Mount Cemetery Road that we're abandoning. Members will recall it was a crooked old county maintained road. And as it's been abandoned in two previous actions of the court as a road was being reconstructed for the master plan of the community. So they've done a good job of maintaining access to the cemetery and for the adjacent property owners. So this is the last piece of that abandonment for this master plan community and taking it off of the county County maintenance. Is anyone in attendance? I'd like to address commissioners cordonless issue either in favor of or opposed to Anyone in attendance would like to address commissioners cordonless issue and they would close the public hearing Thank you. We have motion to close the public hearing by commissioner Eads saying it by commissioner Mitchell. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Posting in. Motion does carry. I know we have an agenda item. That was it. Or that was it. Okay, but there is something else I want to ask everybody's. On Friday, December 22nd, we said we wanted to have commissioners court that day but we didn't set a time. December 22nd? December 22nd is a Friday. You said 10 o'clock. Are we, is it just to pay the bills? Primarily, yes. I'll be here. I can do it. I can 10 is great. But I've gone the fall on week. I'll be now. I do have meetings on Friday. I don't you know that. That's why I thought we, but 10 o'clock is okay. Okay. All right, Cheryl, post that for 10 o'clock then. Judge, one. Yes. Hello. We need to take action on 16 A. We open the public hearing, close the public hearing, we just need to. We didn't take action on it. Okay. We have a ban in the road. All right. We have a motion for approval by Commissioner Eads seconded by Commissioner Mitchell. Hearing no further discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Post any? Motion just carry. Thank you, Vagina, for bringing that up. Okay. We're a good journey. Have a great day. Oh, I'm sorry.