you you you I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going this meeting to order. Good evening, everyone. If you can please stand for the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, for the busy and just for all. You may be seated. So first roll call. I'm starting here to my left. Daniel Guerra present. Christina Ortega present. Danny Rodriguez present. We're out of here. Chairwoman, we have a squirm. Okay. Marcus, do we have any administrative matters at this time? At this time, Madam Vice Chair, we have, there are administrative matters, but there's one thing I want to point out to the board. We had an item PB-24017. It was an item from the city for a tax amendment. It wasn't ready to bring before the board even though we advertised it in the arrow. So we were going to ask that it be deferred so they can be brought back in August at the next meeting. Okay. So we can go ahead and start with the first item. Madam Chair. Yes. Both items, item, quasi-digital. So all who are going to be participating need to be sworn in. If there are participating, be a Zoom. They have to have their cameras on and they need to be sworn in individually. Okay, if anyone on Zoom would like to participate in any of the two items here tonight, if they can please turn on their cameras. Okay. And if anyone here in the audience would like to participate, okay? Okay, I'm going to turn my camera on. Hello. Is this on your phone? So if you tap your screen and you look to the lower left corner, there should be a call. Oh he called in. It looks like. Yeah, no one who's on zoom that doesn't have their camera can can provide evidence. Okay, I mean you can part you can be in the hearing. You would just not be able to speak. So the other options you can you can back out come back in through the join the zoom meeting as opposed to by the phone and you can turn on your camera. Well, if you need to appear. I'm sorry. You're using a computer as opposed to the phone? You can use your phone if you click the link that was provided. If you have a camera on your phone, if it's a smartphone. It is. I have a camera, but I don't see what it says to turn the phone on. I think it's because you called in and you would have to click the link and then enter into the meeting using the link versus the call and number. Yes, sir. You would have to use the app for zone to get their camera to work. The meeting ID, if you're able to use the app, is 305-663-6338. That's the meeting ID. That's where I called. Well, no, that if you use the app and sort of dialing a telephone number. Right. Got it now? Yeah, you would have to use the app to activate your camera. The Zoom app you're do that. The zoo back. You're talking about. Yes, sir. I don't see a way to do that. I just want to write all the follow-up instructions. I don't say. Okay. I mean, you could stay on for the meeting. You just can't can't speak during the meeting. I understand. Okay. Chairwoman, it's at your discretion and the discretion of the board. A member of the public could potentially speak, but their testimony would not be treated as evidence for the quasi-judicial hearing. And so it's up to the board, if you would like to allow the person to speak with the acknowledgement that it won't necessarily be given the weight of evidence for the quasi-digital hearing. That will administer the oath. At this time, I understand. It's going to present evidence if you would stand and raise your right hand. Those who are on Zoom likewise. I'm going to read you out. You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and responses. Yes. I do. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, Marcus. We are going to the first item, the 24-014. Yes, this is item PB-24-014, the applicants of the investments ILC. The resolution of the Marancy, the Commission of the City of South Miami, Florida, approving or denying an application for tentative plat pursuant to section 20.4.2, the land development code seeking to subdivide a property within the low densities of single family residential RS-3. The zoning district located at 5.865 North Kendall Drive for South West 88 Street and the residential state modified, residential estate modified estate or EU-M. There's only district that's available to Pine Cress Florida located at 5865 Southwest 88th Street providing for conditions, corrections, and implementation severability and an effective date. So the applicant filed an application with its city to replat this parcel of mine. It's a vacant piece along the Monk and the Drive. It's right across from Temple Betham on Kindle Drive. The properties located in the RS3 zoning district. This is an interesting property because this is at the southern border of the city. And there are a few properties at that border where a portion of it is in the city. It's also in the village of Pinecrest. So as it's like it cuts the lower part of the properties. Because of that the city did an interlocal agreement with the village of Pinecrest about the administration of these properties who will review them, who will accept the permits, this particular property on that agreement fell to the purview of the city. However, we are required just as they are to notify the village of high-press of any applications that we receive so that we can get comment. Which I have sent out notification to the village manager and I'm awaiting any comments from them that they may have. Presumably to the city subdivision regulations, the city shall use the guideline for this I'm awaiting any comments from them that they may have. Presumably to the city subdivision regulations, the city shall use the guideline for this in the section 20.2.2, B.S. and Bravo to review applications. I've taken those guidelines and I've reviewed this application against those same guidelines. The commission will be using the cousin and the interest of time. I've separated out the guidelines that should be, they need to be addressed. Those are number one section 20.4.2 B2C. The building site created by the proposed waiver plat tentative or file plat will be free of encroachment from unbuttoned building sites. The applicant provided a survey and T-plat maps that for the city to be with that shows a CBS, it's concrete wall that encroaches at least one foot into the property on the Western property line. Additionally, there's a portion of a Chanmi fence that runs them on the Eastern property line that encroaches into the right away as well. Using these encroachments would need to be addressed prior to the final plat approval by the city commission. Just to know because this is a tentative plat, it will come back for final plat. The commission, when they amended the regulations for the environmental review and preservation board, they set up a set of processes for staff to follow. Of those, they changed the way the processes for tentative final plates operate. Before tentative flats and final flats would come to the planning board both before they go to commission, going forward, only the tentative flat will be coming to this board. Final flat will go directly to commission. It will not come here. So they will have to address that before they go for final flat approval. But I wanted to point that out to you. Number two, the section 20 has 4.2 B2e as an elephant the scale of any proposed any proposed new construction shopping I've had with the as well character of the surrounding area. I should not create adverse impacts on this surrounding area But if so the applicant shop provides satisfactory commitment as to the as or how the adverse impact will be mitigated An example of an adverse impact includes visual impacts arising from a proposed two-story structure in an area built out with single-story homes. Medigation could include adding a condition to the approval of the waiver plate, 10-the-platter funnel plate, for landscape buffers or adjusting second-story setbacks or building façades to reduce the visual impact. This property sits in between the snapper creek canal to the north temple Beth AM to the south. When reviewing their requests, there's several two story and one story homes around the property. On across the snapper creek, there's both two story and one story homes along the south with 87th Street. It's temple Beth AM to the south directly the immediate to the east is a two-story home immediately to the west is a one-story home the only adverse impact that staff sees would probably be because they're proposing two-story homes will be the impact of them on that one-story home immediately to to the west so staff is recommending that some type of landscape buffer be put on that western perimeter to kind of calm that that that impact down Next one is section 20 that's 4.2 B2G The building sites or site or sites created by the proposed wave replat tended to refund a plaque cannot constitute in a regular Parso one that has more than four corners or that hasn't any curved or jagged lot mine. And let's see the commission by a four fifths vote determines that the irregularity arises from the irregularity in the original parcel and cannot be corrected, or the commission by such vote determines the irregularity is compatible with the parcels in this running area. Now with this particular with these lots, they all have four corners but because one of the part so is it kind of cut kind of half because it part of its impact is part of it is in the city it creates the impression that one of the lots will be irregular in size. It's up to an interpretation. One person may interpret it's how it's interpreted. To be on the safe side staff is recommending that this require a four fifth vote. So that it. Everything is all the bases are covered. So it's not in the city. So it's it's how it's interpreted. To be on the safe side staff is recommending that this require a four fifth, 5th vote so that everything is all the bases are covered. Number 4, it's a standard condition. Section 20, that's 4.2, B3, C, execute and record in the public records of Miami-D County restricted covenant and a form approved by subject to the review and approval by the City of Management and City Attorney, which contains all commitments made in conditions opposed as part of the approval of the approved waiver pletit and final plet. That's a standard condition that the guidelines that's in the code. I put that for all waiver pletit and final plets. Section 20 that's 4.2 B4 A and B. Additional application requirements as part of the required tentative or final platter of waiver applied application applicants other than the city. So I have required to submit a proposed conceptual site plan drawn to scale indicating the following information for the entire subject property to be subdivided. A, building footprints, B, setbacks, or requirements and easements. For purposes of this section, the conceptual site plan means a plan that is drawn at the schematic design phase, showing parts of a lot of lines, land use, general building location, general driveway, and parking arrangements, and major site features. Future construction may not exceed more than 4% the size of the building or floor area grows shown on the conceptual plan and less approved by the city commission by a 4-5th vote. As long as the setback in the United States are in the court with the code existing at the time of such future construction, the conceptual plan should be reviewed by the planning board and approved by the resolution of the city commission under the provisions of applications requiring public hearing, section 20 has 5.5. Staff reviewed the conceptual site plan that they provided and found that a majority of the proposed designs comply with all the regulations that the setbacks covered in previous covers building coverage, a floyer ratio FAR. There's only one of those requirements that it did not meet which they have to amend their plan. Basically, in addition to meeting the minimum site that backs for a house, you also have to meet what's called the cumulative lot width, meaning that both side yards combined must be equal to a grid and then 20% of width of the lot. This boat neither home meet that cumulative width, so staff is recommending that they make minor adjustments to the plan so that they comply with that condition. So, but everything else complies. Additionally, they're proposing two balconies. balconies on the front of the homes. The code states that balconies can encroach and and to require setback areas up to 36 inches, three feet. The plans do not show how much those those baffinities encroach. So staff want this request in that day clarify how much encroachment there's going to be. The make sure it doesn't exceed that that three foot requirement. Next one. Section 204.2 C1, sidewalks, curbs, gutters, drainage, and paving shall be installed by the owner or developer of the budding parcel. In accordance with chapter 28 of the county code, other applicable city requirements and thus such can be in our way or deferred by the commission. To comply with this subsection, the conceptual plan was reviewed by Representative of the Public Works Department has indicated in the email that's in your package. Because of its close proximity to the Snap Creek Canal, the plans for the project were also afforded to software the Water Management District for review. Further email from Mr. Stanley Pride dated June 26, 2024. They provided the city with a comment that the worth of the Snap Creek Canal showing on the tentative plat map must be corrected. So it is basically on their flat maps they show that the width of the snap creek is 160 feet wide. But their description to the survey put was 180. So they have to correct that to make sure it matches. Other than that, staff is recommending that the Pinellar would recommend approval to attend a applied application. Now, there are some conditions that put into that. They need to correct before it goes to commission. Those are the amendments to the conceptual site plan, as well as the amendment I just mentioned from South Florida Water Management District. Those things should be corrected prior to going to commission. Everything else can be for final plot. Thank you. OK. Open it. OK, we're at this time. We're going to open it to public comments. Is anybody in the public have what I'd like to speak they may come to the podium. Please remember to sign in. If anyone wants to speak on zoom if they can raise their hand. Okay, I see no one. Oh, Mr. Thomason. Yeah, Thomason is the representative. Oh, the applicant. Yes. Okay, well, we're gonna call on you now. Anyone else from the public? Nope, okay. So if the applicant would like to speak now, you may Mr. Thomason. Thank you, Good evening. Damien Thomas and on behalf of the applicant, all 15 investments, LLC. Yeah, we are, have no issues with any of staff recommendations. Say for one, just like to provide clarification on staff recommendation, comment number seven, which is section 20-4.2 B2G. This is one that references the irregular lot issue. So the based upon the actual limits of the plat itself, we will have created a regular lot. While a portion of the planet lot, proposed planet lot does fall into the village of Pinecress, the once it is actually planted, there is no regularity as far as the lot configuration because that portion of land is actually part of lot to I don't know if the the code specifically calls for the regular lot based upon what are the limits of the lot? And the lot that we're creating since it does include the village of Pinecrest land, it will not be in a regular lot. There will be four corners. When we set the PRMs, there will be, you know, those corners will be referenced accordingly. So again, just, just, you know, my, my feedback relative to that particular section of the code again, I believe that it does not fall into the category of an irregular lot because it is planted as a regular lot. That was my only comment. Madam Chair, as Mr. Whitefoot discussed, it's subject to different interpretations. subject to different interpretations. The interpretation of the city was that it is a regular. You know, the staff can review further prior to going to commission, but if it's still deemed to be a regular, then it just goes to the commission and it would require four to. So. Thank you. Okay. We can open again for public comments now that the applicant got an opportunity to speak. I don't know if anyone wants to state anything further from the public. I see no hands. I see no one standing up. Public comments closed. Public comments are closed. Excellent. Discussion board by the board. So the board can now have a discussion. Anyone have any questions? So we don't have anything back from minecraft. At this time they have not responded. They haven't sent me any feedback. I got an email from the city manager. Pinecrice yesterday and they had forwarded to their planning director for review. I expect if comments back prop prop most of the before it goes to commission, but at this time I have not received anything. And the lots that you're proposing making the Pinecrust requirements. You know, it's not it's not required to be reviewed by Pinecrust. This the jurisdiction for the property is the city of South Plenty per that agreement. So it was reviewed strictly by our jurisdiction by our our code on what would their comments how would their comments impact anything then just out of curiosity. I was just something to consider it will be something that the commission could would consider. Okay. Correct. The properties on either side are fine Chris correct. No the property on the either side are us are still the city. The property to the east has has a little bit more for square footage and pine crests, but the property to the west is 100% us. That's the one story. That's the one story. That's adjacent. Yeah. Okay. So it does mean all our requirements. Yes, sir. It meets all the requirements of the code. Like I mentioned, the only only caveats are the cumulative, the cumulative lot with which they will have to provide their conceptual plan, which is a conceptual plan at the end of the day. But it meets the minimum lot size and frontage for the district and they both exceed the median lot size and frontage for the surrounding area. Sorry, I just have a question to clarify something. In terms of the irregular parcel, it says here one that has more than four corners or that has any curved or jagged lock line. I understand what Marcus said where he said well does it have four corners. I'm assuming that is it more that it has a curved or jagged lot line or is it the four corners because I get the two corners are going to be in the village of Pinecrust. But wouldn't it have two corners then? It would have less than four corners, no? The public comments are closed, I'm sorry. Are you the owner? Okay. The owner to speak. It's up to the board. Sure. Please sign in. And you were sworn in, correct? Yes. Okay. I swear you're telling me. I'm Veronica Barba. So I can give you a little bit detail on the lot. The property on the west is actually my in-laws, the one story home. The property on the right, which is the east side is a two story home. And like Marcus was saying, there's a lot of two story homes in the area. But for the purpose of the plant, which is what we're here for, it's a huge piece of property and there are four corners on that property as it sits. If you look at the, I guess, some property search and you look at how it I guess, some property search and you look at how it's divided and where that line crosses through, it's village of Pinecrest and city of South Miami. If we divide that space, if you look, just look at the rectangle and you divide it in half. The property that the flat on the, the lot on the left, right, so on the east side, is gonna have the four corners completely. The property on the right, the lot on the left, right? So on the east side, it's going to have the four corners completely. The property on the right, the lot on the right, looks like a pizza triangle. It's probably a fifth or not even a tenth of the total property size. So it doesn't even get, so if you have the rectangle. We have a picture of it. I see it. OK, so it's just a little piece. I see it. It's like a small rectangle. Yeah, it's like a little tiny pizza. Exactly. A tiny pizza. So if you look at the total property size, it's I don't know what the percentage was, but it was either. Yeah, it's like 10% which would be village pine press. But that whole area falls into like, as you get closer to 57th Avenue, the village pine forest, you know, properties get a little bit bigger, this one just happens to get smaller, and I live down the street, which is 100% softmired on 6031. Thank you. That's it, thank you. Thank you. Chairwoman, if I may. Excuse me, Vicki, can you sign in? Did you sign in or? Thank you chairwoman if I may There's some confusion as to the significance of having a portion of the property in Pinecrest versus South Miami The lots that are being created here have four corners and they do not have jagged or curved lines Where there is some room for interpretation is whether the code, when it talks about irregularities, is limited to jagged lines in four corners, or whether some other irregularity, like having two jurisdictions, is also an irregularity under the code. And that's where we think there's some openness for interpretation. of the code and that's where we think there's some openness for interpretation. At this stage that determination doesn't have to be made by this board. Okay. Okay. It could be made prior to reaching city commission and the city commission is all going to ultimately decide whether to vote by four-fifths or some other amount or some other number. If this board would like to make a recommendation consistent with Marcus' recommendation, it can certainly do that, and that's not necessarily binding the applicant or the city to requiring four-fifths vote or not. I just want to be very clear on this point. There's some room for interpretation. Irregularity, this is multiple jurisdictions. Is that interpretation irregularity this is multiple jurisdictions is that an irregularity or is it not but at the end of the day you can vote yay or nay or with market with markets as conditions or any other sort of conditions that you'd like thank you okay that clarified that thank you through the chair if we recommend one way or the other for fifths or not, is there a liability either way? I don't think so. Okay, so it's really more of a formality. It's a determination that will be worked out by the City Administration and the applicant prior to that vote by the City Commission. The City Commission at this stage is looking for this board to give it some extra insight and Recommendation as to how they should proceed and so it's ultimately recommendation So when you say is there some sort of liability? No, I don't see any liability I understand not liability for our for our board But is there any liability for the commission if they choose to do for fifth or not? Is there anybody else that can come back and say you should have been more stringent? Yeah, yeah. A neighbor, for example, who objected and sought differently than we did, could go to court and make hay out of that. And so if I understand what you're thinking is, is be safe, have a higher vote, and for close any sort of challenge. I just, the only thing I would say is obviously I think we should always be concerned about what blowback we could have on this. I would say that both properties are substantially larger than most of the properties within that line. Very few of them are bigger than this one so I couldn't imagine this not being acceptable to most everyone. Obviously, the only property that you mentioned that could have an adverse effect is owned by the same person. Family. So I can't imagine that again, there's going to be a lot of blowback but I haven't seen anything within this application that's highly concerning. I guess this is sort of like a double-edged sword it might be a little bit more difficult in the sense of having four fifths vote, but at the same time, it safeguards the applicant because the neighbor can't come back and say, mm-hmm. I have second with Danny said, I don't see this being a problem, and I would probably stick to the safer routes since there probably won't be an objection to it and that way the applicant safeguarded from any potential other neighbor or person in the city complaining about this so thank you. Any other comments or questions from the board? comments or questions from the board. Okay, so I'm guessing at this point there would have to be a motion. Does anyone want to make a motion for approval? Or not approving? To brought it, do you have any other comments? You're muted. to brought it to you have any other comments? You're muted. You're muted. I'm mute. Okay. I guess we're not looking at the site plan per se because we're not. This is just a flat application. Correct? Yes, sir. As a site plan did reviewed by this tab. I mean, that's a setbacks and coverage and all that stuff. I'm not going to go into that. But is that something that you guys have looked at? Trees, existing trees? Yes, there are trees on the property, but they're all outside of the property. They're not none of the trees will be affected. The setbacks are all OK. And because this is like dead feet set back, is that what our set requirements are? Yeah. So for two store homes section 20s 3.5 H states that for a frontage of this size you would need a first floor setback of 10 feet a second floor setback of 15 feet. What's both homes comply is just to queue them up with you gotta be you know equal to the greater than 20% so they're only proposing 20 feet on the ground floor for cumulative so they need to need 27 or 26 and some change. So they they have to up it up to set the ground for a set back a bit. So the way it's shown is not correct. Yeah, right now it's not correct, but that's a condition that they will have to address before it goes to commission. Yeah, I, you know, this is, I had brought that up before, but I don't know why we should bring up applications that are not consistent with the requirements. I mean, these kind of things, the applicant needs to have the burden of correcting before it's presented to planning board. You know, I just find it a little disturbing that we are told that what it will be corrected before the commission. Well, it sure have been corrected before it came here. You know, there was another thing that you just mentioned. I don't know from the end which one that is, but it's it's you know, there was a board member there was an issue with the balconies there. I don't think you should the balcony, but I am requesting. How long does it take for an applicant to put the damn dimension of 36 inches? Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's it. It doesn't have to be a condition, because it's the requirements of the code. So, you know, I, I, I, it's anyway. So I just find that little disturbing. So, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, out and they're not ready to be presented fully. And more disturbing is when you ask for it to be corrected and it comes back and it hasn't been corrected. I think in this case it's not a large deviation and it's something simple to correct. So I will send back some serious. They're very serious, absolutely, very serious. But what I'm saying is it's not a hard correction. It's not requiring a substantial reengineering or anything to that effect. So I think we can draft a motion to approve with recommendations or defer with recommendations, but I don't see it as it's an egregious presentation. I guess what I'm saying is we've seen worse, right? but I don't see it as it's an egregious presentation. I guess what I'm saying is we've seen worse, right? This is not overly undone. I'm sorry. We could approve with recommendations if that's what you would want to do. All right, someone may have motion. Please keep in mind that one of my conditions is for them to correct the plans. Right. Just make sure that's part of staff's conditions as is. You can carry the window. That is permissible. Well, I mean, you can confirm with. Yes. I'm just going to comment that I understand Subrata and I also second and I get the frustration. I think at the end of the day though, if the applicant does not comply with these conditions, which if I make a motion it will be with all of these conditions. They will not get approved before the commission and they cannot proceed with their plan. So I move for the approval with the conditions stated here one through seven. Anybody second? With board and staff comments. Thank you. I second. And which are the board comments so comments? Thank you. I second. And which are the board for comments so I can I can detail them? The staff and board comments were to correct the these facts and the same the same the same terms you had there. Okay. Okay. Okay, I'm sure I didn't miss any no no on top of I didn't see anything Danny. Did you have anything to say? Did you want to add something to it? No, like you said this is pretty It's not a big did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something to say? Did you want to add something And at the end of the day, if it doesn't get approved by the commission, it's because they didn't make the corrections. So they would just have to make the corrections and go forward the way we're doing it right now, which is submitting the motion with our corrections need to be made. So. I'm not sure if I'm assuming it's in here. I was just checking again. It also has the three, the three fifths is a three fifths vote four fifths I'm sorry four fifths that's in here in the condition direct market but if it isn't I want to add that yeah that would be part of it but I wanted to clarify for Marcus that would be part of the comments. I agree with that. I was just checking and I don't see it. Yeah, no, that's not one of the conditions. Okay, then I want to add that as one of our comments. So you're adding a condition that it requires four fits full? Yes. Could I do a motion again? No, we incorporated our comments. It's incorporated in Marcus's own. Yeah. Marcus's own comments. That's one of the comments. OK. All right, we thought I'd call a question. Oh, I'm seconded. I did. OK, thank you. So we vote? Yes. Yes. Roku. Subrata? No. Board member Rodriguez. So we vote yes, yes, Rokal Rokal Subrada no Board member Rodriguez Yes, Board member Granra. Yes Chairwoman Ortega. Yes Item passes. That's three one Thank you very much. Thank you So now we're looking at the second item. Are you familiar? Yes. So the second item is PB-2-4-106. The applicant is Mr. Robert Pramer. He is in the audience. A resolution of the mayor and the city of Michigan of the city of South Miami, Florida, approving a denying and application for a final term for, to be a for waiver a plot pursuant to section 20 as 4.2. I see that there's an error in the title. It should be for a waiver a plot. I'll still finish the title but it should it should have been read as a waiver a plot. After these were final plaid pursuant to section 24.2 of the length of element code seeking to subdivide a property within the semi-state residential RS2 zoning district located at 5400 southwest 63rd Avenue, providing for conditions, corrections, and limitations to our ability and an effective date. The applicant filed a waiver apply an application with the city subdivide his property located at 5400 Southwood, 63rd Avenue, which is in the RS2 zoning district, and the two parcels so that a new single founding home can be built. Basically, this is a double-sided lot that fronts both Southwood, 63rd Avenue, and Southwood, 63rd Court. Currently, there is an existing one-story single-family structure with a wooden deck, concrete driveway, and concrete patio, and a sexually structured wooden shed on the site based on the plans that the applicant has provided, the site would be divided in such a way that the existing single family structure will remain and they will be building a new one on the back half of the property. I presume to the city's subdivision regulation, the city commission shall use the guidelines listed in section 20.24.2, B as in Bravo to review plan applications. Staff has reviewed the request against those guidelines and found that the project complied with the majority of those guidelines. The following are the guidelines that need to be addressed. Section 20 as 4.2 B2 AI, or Roman number one. The building site created by the proposed waiver plaid tentative or final plaid should be equal to or larger than the median of the existing building site in a surrounding area. This shall be demonstrated using copies of the official plaid maps for the subject property and surrounding neighborhood unless otherwise permitted by this ordinance surrounding area is to find as all lots within the same zoning district and within 500 feet from the exterior boundaries of the subject property. Staff did- Marcus, yes. We reviewed the public notice. I'm looking at the packet now, the back materials to the agenda item. And I understand this is the public notice, right? Yeah. That was sent out. Okay, so the public notice, Chairwoman, specifies approval of a final plat. And this is a waiver of plat application. So while it pains me, this sort of notice error presents a potential problem that would invalidate the proceedings. So it's my recommendation to the board that we defer this item, re-notice it, and proceed as soon as possible the next possible meeting. Okay. I'm sorry Mr. Kremel, that was a mistake on my behalf. Through the chair, though, could I still ask a clarifying question anyway? Yes. I noticed that in this, in what submitted in front of us, I don't know if that's also an error, it states that if this were to be, the way it's being presented is that it'll be 60, is it 63rd Ave, and 63rd Ave? And my question is. Okay, now what I read here, that's why. And that's, so maybe that's an error, or maybe I misread that could be the two. Which page? Refunding. On, I don't know what page, it's not a numbered page, but here? Ah, because, yeah, that's the, that's the subdivision analysis. So right now that's it's supposed to be 63rd Avenue lot one, 63rd Avenue lot two. Right. Yeah. So it will be changed to then. Okay. Yeah. So right. All right. Very good. Thank you. You're welcome. It says lot one and lot two. I notice that now. Thank you. I just know I focused on the app. Okay. I wanted a lot too. I notice that now. Thank you. I just know I focused on the app. Okay. To clarify some with the city attorney, if it was not properly titled, to avoid potential issues, I would. I would defer it. I know it's unfortunate, but you don't want to have issues later. I apologize. Alpacan if you want to make any statement on the record you have to speak at the podium. You don't have to make a statement on the record. It's entirely up to you. I do apologize. The podium please. State your name and address for the record Robert Kramer 5400 Southwest 63rd Avenue. I'm just curious one the next Date will be Marcus. It will be August. It's a second second Tuesday and August We can we can make the notice in time. Yes, we can definitely do notice in time. Okay. I'll be out of the country that Okay, it's my only issue come summer break and I'd like to get this Duh sooner than later. It is August 13 is the second Tuesday because August 6 correct Is that when you're you'll be oh, Yeah, it's my daughter's summer break, so we're planning a trip. I could possibly we were getting back to 15s. I could possibly move that up. I'd have to check with the flights. Is the hospital for you to zoom? Yeah, I was supposed to. You can also participate by Zoom. I don't know because we'll be out of the country, so it just depends on the. The reception. So the city is very eager to work with you and accommodate you as best we can. You can speak with Marcus after the meeting and see what's possible. You can appear by Zoom, you can have a representative appear in person or by Zoom as well. And if it has to be moved to September date, that's also something that we could do. Yeah, that would be possible. The sooner or the better. September 10 would be the second Tuesday. No, I'll make August work. Should I sign? Yes, please. So we would need a motion to defer the item to allow for proper notice to be made. I make a motion to defer and we hear the item in the next meeting. With the proper title. Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Okay. I think we've got the votes then. Yeah. All right. That item passes. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Okay. I think we've got the votes then. Yeah. Aye. That item passes. You now miss it. Okay. So. Well, I am doesn't pass. It just did get different. Just. Yeah. Sorry. Is there any new business? Not from the city attorney's office. Marcus. I have nothing. Okay. So now we do the approval of the minutes. Everyone's been provided a copy. Is there a motion for the approval of the minutes? Motion to approve. Any seconds? motion for the approval of the minutes. Motion to approve. Any seconds? High second. Was I here? Yeah. I was in here. All in favor? All in favor. All right. Motion passes. Motion passes. Our approved. So the future meeting date is Tuesday, August 13th, 2024. And this meeting is adjourned. Adjurnd. Congrats, Christina, on your first meeting. Well done. Very well done. I have to tell Agustin, why did you do that? I'm the first date. Back to Zoom, right? Yeah. I was like, I gotta get a dress on. Thank you.