Welcome everybody to today's meeting for the CBA and community benefit agreement. Today we have a start-up introductions from the left please. Jeff Clemens, Council Research. Mary Stifopoulos, Office of General Counsel. Philip Peterson, Councilor's Office. Can a mayor or city council district one? Give me a police so city council district seven. Roll areas district 11. Nick Howell and city council at large group three. Good afternoon to everyone. Table on the clap. Marie district nine. Randy White district 12 just visually. Good morning Michael Brown districts. Good afternoon Michael Brown district sixme District. Good afternoon, Michael Boehme District. Six, thanks. Just visiting. Mike Gay District 2, just visiting. Matt Carlucci at large group 4, just visiting again. Thank you so much. And with that being said, I would like to start off with talking about the ground rules that we're going to have here for the next four days or the next four meetings. This is meeting number one of four. Our upcoming meetings will be August 7th and 9am, August 12th and 9am and August 26th or last meeting and 9am. And with all the meetings we're going to have 30 minutes of public comment towards the end of the meeting. So I encourage anybody to follow out any public comment cards that they need to right now. That would have the discussion at the end. If you don't mind, Mary please addressing the charge of the committee. Thank you through the chair to the committee. So there was a charge memo issued by Council President White on July 15th that outlined the tasks that were given to this committee, the special committee, as well as some key dates and information relative to the legislative process as the community benefits agreement makes its way through the council legislative process. As you are aware, the stadium legislation, 2024-904, a key component of what was discussed during the pendency of that bill was the community benefits agreement. A portion of that agreement was carved out to allow, to attempt to allow certain council members who had conflicts with respect to that agreement. The opportunity to participate in the overall stadium discussion. And so what is before you was 2024 905 is what is, what was carved out of that community benefits agreement to travel separately. So with that, I'll read some key portions of the memorandum from Council President White. As President, he wants to ensure that key investments, the key investments contained in the community benefits agreement will pay dividends over the decades to come and that all residents of Jacksonville are positively impacted. The special committee charge is outlined below in the memo and then he also provides the process, like I said, for the legislation in 2024-905 that it will follow. The committee charges specifically, the committee is to address the following questions and matters. Number one, explore all available options as they relate to the community benefits agreement and legislation. Review and number two, review and recommend any necessary amendments to the community benefits agreement and its associated legislation. And it encourages maximum public participation in the process and indicates that the special committee may seek advice from both private and public subject matter experts. And it outlines on page two of the memo that the committee is tasked with reporting its findings and recommendations on these matters on our before August 27th, 2024. Thank you for that. All right, so today marks a historic day. Thanks for the partnership and the commitment of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're not only able to have the largest CBA in history, but it's by a landslide. Right now we're sitting at $180 million and the not only able to have the largest CBA in history, but it's by a landslide. Right now, we're sitting at $180 million, and the goal would be to have the remaining dollars matched with the Jaguars towards the end of this four meetings. So with that being said, I would just like to start off the meeting with talking about the legislation that's filed. And I would like to have Attorney Joel Dillard up to the podium if possible. Thank you. Joelle Dillard, Office of General Counsel. Thank you, Councilman Arias, for the invitation. My apologies. I would like to introduce Council President White as well. I'd like to see you come in. Thank you. I'll just take just a second. I want to come down and thank this committee probably one of the most important committees we've formed in a while. This is very important to the east side, important to the city. And I'll see your schedule and I like that. And if you all get through in those four meetings, which I hope happens, because I would like to vote this out if possible on August 27th. And I certainly have a lot of faith in this committee and I'm going to support what comes out of this committee as a whole, but just wanted to thank you again for what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Joel. Thank you. As pointed out earlier, the legislation we filed on behalf of the administration is to approve and authorize the supplemental community benefits agreement follows the form generally of the CBA that was approved by 2024 9-04. It increases funding as you have pointed out. But it what it does not do is appropriate funds and that we would the administration would have to come back later to get appropriation to fund this agreement. I'm happy to answer any legal questions you have, but that's pretty much the sum of it. Thank you so much, Anonymous. Any questions from the queue? Thank you. Thank you. All right, so I would like to just go over what we're expecting from this meeting today and the upcoming meeting. So for today's purpose, each day we're going to break it up by different sections and today's we're going to talk about the east side. We're going to have an understanding of what the CBA is, how we got to this point. And then on the next meeting, we're going to talk about the county wide efforts, affordable housing, homelessness, parts, as well as the funding mechanism, and how we're going to get funded and win, right? As well, we're going to have community input from different partners in the community like today, since we're doing the East side, we're going to have people from this and lift jacks involved in this process. And then moving forward, the third meeting will be the day where we have floor amendments from all council members if possible and also the creation of the CBA board. And then the last day will be a wrap-up session. So those kind of how we're going to work these next four meetings. So I encourage anybody that has any input for the next upcoming meetings to please let me know how to time so we can actually incorporate you guys into the schedule if you want to present as well. That's the process that we have and so moving on to the next part of the agenda will be the presentation the creation of the CBA I would like to have attorney Daniel Nunn come up and talk about the CBA across the NFL and how we got to this point Mr Chair Mr. Vice Chair Council President and Councilman Thank you for the opportunity to be here today. I do have a PowerPoint presentation. I don't see it up on the screen here. If everybody has the handouts, then I can work off of that. Like to begin with the basics, what's the community benefit agreement? And community benefit agreement is an agreement between developers, public and private entities and community-based organizations to address concerns or existing or potential harms. Traditionally, these CBAs were entered into between real estate developers and community coalitions to offset the impacts of the development and to garner public support for the development and any kind of rezoning or public incentives required. Today, CBAs are often three party deals between the developer, the local government, that provides public subsidies and community coalitions. CBAs traditionally were used to mitigate potential negative impacts from development, as well as to assure that public subsidies result in benefits both for the overall community and not just for the developer. When we talk about adverse impacts from development, what we're often talking about are gentrification and the resulting resident displacement. We're talking about sometimes negative impacts on property values, pollution from construction, increased traffic, increased parking issues. And there we go. Crime and gambling. Newer CBAs focus primarily on affordable housing workforce development, hiring commitments in green space, and I'll come back to why that is in a few moments. The use cases for CBAs are multiple. We're doing them in connection with obviously negotiation with the professional sports team regarding a stadium construction. But there've also been use from major real estate developments, port authorities or airports, expanding their operations, casino developments, and transportation and energy projects. And I should emphasize they've been used with rather a miss-access depending on how they were structured. Typically, CBAs have some common elements. First source hiring programs, the idea that you will hire employees from within the community, either living or prevailing wage commitments often, and commitments about the use of minority business enterprise contractors. Affordable housing, construction of parks, public spaces, environmental traffic mitigation spaces for childcare, cultural centers, grocery stores. One example in grocery store, the Pittsburgh Pinguins did a CBA that had them put a locally owned grocery store in an African American community. Most sports related ones have some contribution to youth sports, either from football camps or other activities. And then of course, as I mentioned, workforce development. Sports related CBAs, and I'm going to talk about several of these, but the Staples Center CBA was in relation to development around the Staples Center, which hosted the Lakers and the Los Angeles Clippers. And it is often called the first CBA, although that's not technically correct, but it was a very successful CBA primarily because it was community-organized, community-driven, and focused on the community needs. organized community driven and focused on the community needs. So I'm just talking about a few other notable CBAs from the last few years. And keep in mind, CBAs are fairly new. There haven't been a great many of them so far with NFL franchises. In part, because it's dependent on the schedule of new stadium construction. There are a bunch of NFL teams that are being looking at what we're doing because of new stadiums that are coming in Cincinnati and Kansas City, et cetera. The Atlanta Falcons CBA was from, I believe, 2015. It was much smaller than this one. It was size to about $40 million in terms of the team investment. What was notable about it was it was focused heavily on community development for one particular community. And there was co-investment by Invest Atlanta, that was the economic development arm for the city of Atlanta, as well as the city and the creation of a redevelopment area with tax financing. So a smaller CBA, but it is showing some promise so far in what it's been able to accomplish. The Buffalo Bill CBA is perhaps the most recent prominent one contains, it is size lower than the Jaguars CBA, which it's around $90 million, and focuses on hiring wage, minority business enterprise commitments, and affordable housing. The Tennessee Titans developed a one community CBA type platform. The Titans developed a one community CBA type platform. And as part of that, the team entered into separate agreements with about 16, 20 nonprofits covering certain areas. It was a broad range of commitments. It included resident non displacement, affordable housing, workforce development, the criticism that I have heard of the Tennessee Titans one community program is the money has been spread so thin, among so many causes. It's going to be difficult to see and measure its making notable impacts in any one area. The Raiders CBA is another recent construction of a very expensive stadium with a lot of public dollars. Unfortunately, that CBA was not a very good CBA. And in part, that's because of the financing that was being used, the market in terms of Las Vegas and the financial capabilities of the team itself. So there were some other factors in that. But a very analogous one to what we're dealing with is the Los Angeles Clippers CBA from 2020. And under that CBA, they are committing $100 million at his in connection with the construction of a $1.2 billion facility, so not too far off what we're talking about in Jacksonville. About 75% of it was focused on affordable housing. Other elements were workforce and education, including some mentoring and college scholarships. What are the keys to CBA's success? There's a lot of literature about this, both in law review articles and planning journals for urban planners. Consistently, these are the items that come up as the keys to success, community engagement and understanding the critical needs of the community. Coordination with any redevelopment planning that's going on, incorporation of workforce training, that comes out of the growing recognition that when you have a homeless crisis, it's not enough to house them. You've got to teach them skills where they can get jobs and become productive members of society. Focus on catalytic investments. This was another element of the Atlanta Falcons CBA, but you want investments that are going to make a difference and that are going to encourage private investment as a follow-on on these issues. And then co-investment by local governments, which is becoming more and more the trend on these. So because CBAs are relatively new, there are not many academic studies at this point about the impacts overall of the CBAs. However there are a bunch of studies on certain elements of CBAs that may be interesting. Affordable housing has a positive economic impact on the community. This is from the Siddalski Trust Fund here in the state of Florida. Every dollar generates $9.50 in economic activity. That includes over a dollar coming back to the taxpayers. Workforce development, this is from a study by NIH. Every dollar generates $2.80 annually, or return of about 33 times in estimated lifetime return over the lifetime of the workers who received this kind of workforce training. Green spaces, I had limited opportunity, candidly, to research this before today. But I did find one example where a $3.4 million investment in parks almost immediately increased property values in the surrounding area by $7.8 million. That's exclusive of the health quality of life type benefits that you see from adding parks and green space. So again, the key point that I will raise on these and wrapping up is community engagement. That's the biggest key community empowerment. Those terms go hand in hand because if you have those things, you have community buy-in, it becomes easier not just to do one thing, but to do a whole series of things. To get the community on board with a whole series of changes, whether they relate simply to housing or they relate to other aspects of the community, of transportation, of crime prevention, that's the key. That's all I have and less chairman and council members have any questions. Thank you for that presentation, sir. I do have some speakers on the queue, and as always, I'll start with the committee members first, but I don't see any right now, but I do have Mr. Joe Carducci. All right, thank you, Mr. Chair, and through the Chair and Mr. Nguyen. Real quick, I just appreciate you putting this together for us, and from Staples Atlanta, Buffalo, Tennessee, and the Raiders and the Clippers do, do any of those or all of those have a board, like a CBA board that kind of facilitates everything? Or what is their structure, I don't know if you know that. It very much depends. And what I will say to you is there are a number of CBAs that did not quote site here out of New York City, they're primarily tied to real estate developments that were very unsuccessful and disappointing. And one of the great reasons for that was because there was not enough community engagement on the visioning side, on the planning side, on the implementation side. Most of the other agreements that you saw had some variation of a CBA type board. I have advocated for using the vehicle in Florida statutes, the urban infill and redevelopment area, but with a shared governance model. But the same thing, but the important thing is to have members of the community that are serving on that board, making decisions about their own community. Okay, awesome. Thank you, Mr. Chin. That's right, I have Mr. Okay. Awesome. Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's right. I have Mr. Kenemaru. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the Chair, to Mr. Nunn, thank you for your presentation. For me, it's been very insightful. You said something a second ago that the Raiders CBA was an agglist. Two hours. It's a $100 million project, but you didn't tell me the structure of it, the composition of it, did the municipality pay a portion into it, did the raiders pay? Can you give me some description there, please? Sorry, it's not the raiders. The raiders one was much different than ours that involved a lot of public commitment of public dollars and not too large a CBA. It was the Los Angeles Clippers that I was making the analogy to. It's a very close $100 million CBA, mostly allocated to affordable housing and, you know, with extensive community involvement in terms of the planning of where that money goes. Through to Chair, the money, the source of the money is what I was trying to get to. That CBA, I do not recall whether that involved specifically city money. I'd have to go back and look at that. What I can tell you that it was in connection with a specific redevelopment area that the city had already created and had created some tax exempt financing. So in that sense, you were leveraging both public and private dollars in that context. But beyond that, I'd have to go back and look because I don't wanna answer your question in accurately. I have district seven's finance, Jamie Palloso. Thank you, Chair. And I appreciate that very kind introduction. Mr. Nond, thank you for presenting today. To the point that Council Member Carlucci kind of brought up a moment ago, it'd be good to kind of, I hate to task you with something or ask you for something. But if you're able to kind of look at what other CBA governance boards look like in all these different communities and cities, I guess the question is, as we look at, how do we these dollars get dulled out? Do we have the community drive that more? Do we have the government entity kind of be a part of it? Do we have a mixture of the two? I don't want to create a bunch of new boards. I'm going to put that out right now. But I'd like to kind of know what others have done and maybe where we could chart a different path or maybe take one of their recommendations. So if you can kind of present that to us at a later time or find us, you know, other cities. And I'd be happy to supplement these materials with some information on that very question since it's come up a couple of times. What I would say to you is different communities have taken different approaches. Some of them have been very much city board type situations. Others have been, hey, everything goes through council. More often than not, you're seeing the board consist of more or less equal representation of residents from the impacted neighborhood along with officials appointed by the local government. And further, what you're seeing more and and more and you see this with the Tennessee Titans community platform is simply administration of these CBAs through nonprofits. on the queue. I do have a question or two. Similar to Mr. Pallusio just said or two. Regarding the boards, we don't have too many boards doing this kind of work because that just requires more staffing power from the city as well. But from any of these CBAs, you've already listed Buffalo, Tennessee, Raiders, all of these. Have you ever seen any instance where any community has multiple boards? In this case, we're looking at possibly having a board for the east side and possibly having a board for the county wide. Is that something that you've seen or has it just been one master board to kind of reallocate the dollars and figure out the, I guess, the source? I'm not sure that I've seen the situation where there are multiple boards. I've seen the situation where there are multiple nonprofits receiving funding and administering programs, but I don't think I've seen the situation with multiple boards. Okay. And the only, I guess example that I've seen here is going to be the Buffalo bills. I guess now the LA clippers at $100 million and Buffalo at $90 million. But these dollars, can we talk about the timeline as to when those dollars were actually used and what was the expectation of those dollars? Was there a defined period? In almost every case, the dollars, and there are some limited exceptions, but in almost every case, the money coming from the team has been spread over the life of their lease commitment, which is what happened here. That's the sort of state of play on these types of deals right now. Okay, no further questions of mine, but I do have Mr. Emerald back on the queue. Thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. Nunn just for a little clarity for me You describe the Raiders CBA as a failure What did they do wrong that so we don't repeat it if you will I think to you miss some context two things number one and most importantly repeat it if you will. I think to- You missed some context. Two things. Number one, and most importantly, they did not go to the community. There were not community coalitions that were sufficiently organized and empowered to give insight to the local government. Either that or the local government just didn't listen to them. And secondly, it was underfunded in particular in relation to the size of the stadium construction cost and the size of the public subsidies. Let's see if that answers your question, Mr. Maher. That's him. All right. Okay. I know other questions. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you So moving on now to chief of staff, Darnell Smith and we're going to talk about the discussion of the foul legislation, sir floor yours You have to near and everybody Darnell Smith chief of staff with office of the mayor Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'd also like to give a special thank you to Councilman Areas and just in Evan with all the great work that we've had an opportunity to do and to also say thank you to Council President White for certainly ensuring that we had an opportunity to come forward and pull together this particular special committee in order to truly look at other aspects of that of the 2024 legislation which of course as you know included a community benefits agreement. The original $150 million requested of the Jaguars were intended to support the Audi's Neighborhood Initiatives at $75 million. And the countywide initiatives at $75 million. The City of Jacksonville funds were to support Audi's at 30 million, countywide initiatives at 50 million, Riverfront parks at 56 million and District level parks and public space priorities to be directed by the council members at 14 million all of that coming into total 150 million dollars as you know 2024 904 was passed and included 2020 forward 904 was passed and included $118 million from the Jaguars and $56 million from the City of Jacksonville. The $56 million, of course, were for Riverfront Parks and the $118 million dollars will eventually be determined exactly where those dollars will go. And hopefully through this process that we go through here. This legislation is necessary for the city to partner with the Jaguars for the funding of programs critical to the future growth of our city. It commits the city to dedicating a minimum funding level in future budget years to support workforce development, affordable housing, and homeless mitigation efforts, countywide, to the $250 million over four years, beginning in fiscal year 26, as well as economic development, and affordable housing and homelessness mitigation efforts in the Audi's neighborhood totaling $30 million over three years beginning in fiscal year 26 Each of these solutions fit together like pieces of a puzzle Through workforce development. We will move people from jobs to careers and get them ready for opportunities opened by economic development. Through economic development, we will support entrepreneurs and increase wages which allow for more people to access stable housing. Through increasing the inventory of affordable housing, we have a healthier workforce and reduce the chances of homelessness. Through homeless mitigation, we strengthen our community and improve the environment for economic development. The legislation establishes the office of economic development as the oversight provider. Bill does not appropriate money toward any specific entity. The dollars that will be obviously appropriated and when it's ready to obviously be spent will come before this council. Having dedicated and committed funding allocated now for future, will allow for more effective strategic project planning. We'll also create more opportunities to compete for matching grants. Furthermore, 2020-4905 locks in a commitment from the Jaguars to contribute annual funding of $31 million over the term of the stadium lease toward mutually agreeable goals. Additionally, the legislation commits $14 million in CIP funding for each district council member to appropriate toward parks, public spaces, resiliency, infrastructure, and or recreation purposes in such a district. Our intentions are to allow two still-to-be-created boards, the East Side CBA Board and the County-wise CBA Board to help guide this work. We envision these boards being seven members each with relevant experience required. However, we have heard from several council members about the importance of understanding a level of specificity regarding the work to be considered. And so with a course of the next few days in which we meet, you're going to hear that specificity about how these dollars can be spent. In collaboration with Chairman Areas, we have worked with numerous entities set to speak on each of the out east and county-wide initiatives. It is my experience that many initiatives fail because they lack one of three things, sometimes more than just one effective leadership an impactful strategy and plan and or commit funding You will see and hear our commitment and emphasis on the need for all three in this supplemental CBA Today You will see the out east community leaders, business owners, nonprofits and philanthropic community leaders have partnered to create and recommend a strategy for economic development and housing to hopefully give the board a head start. On day two of the committee, you will hear from industry experts and workforce development, homelessness, mitigation and affordable housing on the need for clear, concise and impactful strategies. They will make the case for dedicated future funding and visionary leadership as well. So why commit to these funding levels now and not during the yearly budget process. Committing to the funding levels brought forward in the CBA for these vital sectors today will allow those strategies to be built over the next year and be ready for appropriating legislation next October. The ongoing commitments will provide a certainty baseline for those doing the work to rely on for future planning and necessary adjustments. It will also strengthen our grant applications by showing dedicated matching funds to be available. This will allow our initial investment to multiply. And lastly, I just remind you, the maximum general fund outlay in any one budget year that is currently being contemplated. It's $25 million. $25 million of this coming budget year would be 1.3%. We believe that we can manage to that 1.3%. I stand for questions. Thank you, sir. For that, I do have a few speakers on the queue starting with Jim and police Thank you chair. Thank you Darnell for that. I just kind of want to make it known both the administration and to My council members who are up here with me, you know, I to the point that I kind of made a moment ago I don't want to see a million different boards being created and established especially city boards that again We'll have to be fully staffed This this body did create a homelessness commission just this year from boards being created and established, especially city boards that again, will have to be fully staffed. This body did create a homelessness commission just this year. We intend to have a strategic plan. It's also not always in homelessness, it's also affordable housing. So a new commission is about to be established and created. Why some of these dollars wouldn't go to that commission and have them kind of disperse the funds, especially for the county-wide stuff? That's what I think makes the most sense, right? As for workforce development, I do think that we can kind of look at different ways to kind of create the dispersing mechanism for how those dollars get out, whether it be economic development, you know, the department that we have within the city, or maybe some other entity, Chamber of Commerce, something else, I don't know. As for the east side, out of east, I think should kind of certainly have their own entity that disperses the dollars amongst those in the east side. That's something that I'm committed to, and I think many of us are. I know that we have the coalition. They're going to be doing a presentation. I think that they would be in the best ones positioned to be able to disperse those dollars. And I know we're going to be talking about what these, how the disbursement of dollars gets executed over the next several meetings. I just kind of want to put that out there to make sure my colleagues are kind of hearing where my head is out on this. We already, we have a lot of boards and commissions already. We have a lot of groups already that can help make, get these dollars out there. Let's maybe entrust them, let's entrust the community that's already kind of been showing up to these meetings to begin with. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Cargamer. Thank you, Chair Areas. Good afternoon, Mr. Schmuth. So I want to focus on the legislation itself in regards to the benefit. So what I need for me is to make sure I understand the amounts that we're dealing with, the amounts of funding. So I know there's 118,666 blah, blah, blah, blah, from Tinko. And then there is the $56 million that's going to come from the city. And then in the legislation I see or the agreement, the supplemental agreement. There is an additional 31,333,34 and then Team Co. There's an additional 94 million, but it does say the strategic focus. I think we're going to focus as the chair said pretty much on the east side but if you could discuss those first numbers excluding the 94 million the 118 the 56 and then the 31. Sure. Happy to do so. In 2024 and 904 we were successful thanks to the council members and the Jaguars and getting the Jaguars to commit to $118 million. Of the $150 million that we originally had asked for, we, as you may know, we thought there were a number of our colleagues on the council that might have been a bit conflicted to vote on the legislation. And we decided to move forward with the $56 million for Riverfront Parks, but we took other components out. Those two components were out east and county wide initiatives. Therefore to get to $150 million from the Jaguars and $150 million from the City of Jacksonville. The Jaguars will be through this legislation, providing another 31 million plus. And we would be bringing forth the other $94 million plus. That's the intent. Thank you, Mr. Smith, and through the chair. So with that being said, the one piece of the East Side Strategic Focus that I have not heard of, and maybe someone's going to speak to it a little later. And I'm not sure it may be a question more for the auditors than you Mr. Smith there. So the East Side Strategic Focus had looks like six parts. So you had the 30 million from the city, the 50 million from Team Co. And then there was a 95% of incremental city property taxes collected collected and actually received by the city. So then can we speak to that aspect I don't know through through the chair to the auditors or to the auditor how we can begin to formulate what that number would look like. Through the chair to Councilor Clark Murray, I don't know how to begin to guesstimate that number because that is based on the increase in the property tax values in that area. So we have increases year-over-year on residential properties, but that's limited to CPI or 3% the greater of. And then commercial properties can fluctuate greatly depending on the use of the property, whether it's vacant. And we will see in this year some properties went down because we've had office space vacated and whatnot. So I don't know how to begin to estimate that number on a year-over-year basis. That 95% incremental revenue is part of this supplemental CBA. So that is a component of this, it's not a component of 904 that was taken out of 904, but it is included in this CBA that is before he was done 905. Thank you. Through the chair, to Mr. Peterson. This one last portion. And then it's as far as once again the term for timing. All of this if I understood correctly is basically scheduled to begin in 2026. Yes. But then the portion through the chair, the portion for team co does not begin until substantial completion of the stadium. Is that true or no? I have to look to Joelle, is that correct? Like a 118 million. Yes. That's correct. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Holland, please. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. Mr. Holland, please. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Having heard from Mr. Smith and ahead of the presentations from Mr. Garfunkel, Dr. Cohen, and Mr. Grant, I wanted to lay out my line of thinking. And I wanted to do that because with all folks coming to talk to us about their projects, I wanted them to know where I'm coming from. People may not always agree with my line of thinking as we go through these, but at least you'll know what my perspective is. First, thank you to the Council President for setting up this CBA Special Committee. Second, thanks to the Chair, Mr. Areas, for leading it. And as importantly, thanks to the full council Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank in a big way. Regarding the CBA, these are some great projects. These are some wonderful topics. My priorities and office, both running and office, have always been public safety, infrastructure, and jobs. We're talking infrastructure and jobs with these projects. So I think they're very worthwhile to talk about, and I'm very happy that we carved that out from 904, so we're considering as part of a special committee now. But as I think through those topics, I'm mindful that revenues for this city are limited. I mean, we don't print money in the city. Our revenues come from property taxes, fees, contributions from the state and when we take out debt. So that means that, that conversely our investment opportunities are limited. So I'm very pleased that at the time each year that as a body the taxpayers and trust us to consider what investments we're going to do given our limited resources that we're having this CBA discussion concurrent with budgets right now. Because this enables us to compare all of our investments that this city can afford to make against each other. That's what we're doing here. So I plan to look at these CVA projects like I would look at anything in the budget. And I was clear last year when we looked at the budget how I would consider each one of these projects. I want to see a defined project. And what I mean by that is time defined. So it's not a recurring program for eternity necessarily. And money defined. I don't want to see buckets of funds. So I don't want to see where we need 4 million here without saying what specifically that 4 million is going to be put towards. Why? Because all of us here, all 19 of us here, are representing the taxpayers and spending their money. So first of all, defined. Second, I want to see impactful. And I appreciate Mr. Nunn for addressing that in his presentation. How different investments get a return for the city and the citizens. Third, I want to see that it's the proper role of government. That's very important because local government, state government, federal government all have roles, sometimes they overlap, sometimes they're individual. And we need to stick with the proper role of local government. And finally, I want to see if it meets a city priority. And we know that the categories laid out of affordable housing workforce development are certainly city priorities and there are also priorities of mind. So if it doesn't meet those criteria, it may not be a project we're supporting because there might be other better uses of taxpayer dollars. So that is how I'm gonna look at everything. I'd like to see it under those general categories. One other thing I want to talk about because it's come up a couple times here, and that relates to the potential CBA board that we set up. When I look at how to consider a CBA board, I want to think through one thing first and foremost and that is the 19 of us are elected, 14 in districts, five citywide by taxpayers with the primary responsibility of making policy through the budget. If we are giving another board the authority to spend money, we are relinquishing that responsibility. So we need to be mindful of when we do that and when we don't. Now, there are times, obviously, with promises that were uncapped since consolidation, where we as a body have not been ideal and how we invest. So, CRAs stand up, potentially DIA stands up. I, in the Charter of Vision Commission several years ago, supported, I'm sending up an Urban Court of Element Authority. There are times when maybe a body closest to the needs of a neighborhood could determine where those investments go better than the City Council could. But we should never take that lightly. Because in doing so, we are indeed relinquishing our voter approved responsibility to dull out tax paraphones. I just want everyone to think about that as we go through the next four meetings on the CBA Special Committee. And Mr. Chair, thanks for indulging. Very well, Pudster. We're actually going to talk about the board pretty soon and I do have some questions regarding that. So with that further ado, let's go on to Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I just wanted just to come in. I feel to remember that during the discussions on 904, we did run some initial numbers to Ms. Clark Murray's question earlier about estimating property taxes. And we looked at the other CRAs that had been set up around the county and what their growth rates were and trying to project that number out. And so on the low end, over a 30 year period, it looked like it would be about 130 million, but it could creep up to almost 500 million depending on the growth. So running growth scenarios of 5%, 7,5%, and 10%, 5% that growth, if it stuck that over 30 years, would be about 130 million, but at 10%, which is closer to reality of what the other CRAs had seen, that number creeps up to close to $500 million over 30 period. Thank you for that. Is that answering question? I heard. I, Mr. Smith, if you don't mind just saying up here because we're going to talk about the boards now before we get onto the presentations. Starting out with, you know, you heard earlier from Mr. None, other cities haven't had multiple boards. Where did you guys come up with that idea to have an Eastside Board and a county wide board? Sure. The major reason why we thought to would be appropriate is merely focus. Could one exist to incorporate a focus on county wide and Eastside? I'd be hard pressed to say to you that it can't happen. to incorporate a focus on countywide and east side. I'd be hard pressed to say to you that it can't happen. But if we want to make certain that the board is focusing appropriately, giving time and energy on addressing the needs of out east, we think they should have their own board, as well as one for countywide. That is merely the reason. No, nothing different. Okay. Focus. All right. Mary, I do have a question. If we were to create these boards, would we have to have a legislation filed for that and it still wants a timeline for that? How's that look? To the chair. So yes, traditionally when we create a new board, it's done through legislation. The timeline is, as you're familiar with, on the short end, as you were part of the discussions on the Homelessness Initiatives Committee, that was done pretty quickly. So between when the special committee made its recommendations to the completion of the legislation through the legislative cycle. I would say three to four months, which may or may not work. The timeline, Mr. Smith has been talking about with respect to kind of establishing and identifying what these programs look like. I think you would have some time to do that, but traditionally it's done through legislation. Okay, thank you for that. So I task committee members as well as obviously other council members visiting but the goal of this committee would be to create that board while having these CBA conversations. So we do have three more meetings left. The last one will be August 26. My goal would be to have this conversation if anything followed the legislation on August 12 which I think is our third meeting. My goal would be to have this conversation if anything, file the legislation on August 12, which I think is our third meeting. That way Mary and her team could start working on that. So I leave it open to anybody that wants to have conversations regarding the boards and the appointment of members. Mr. Karloche, you're on the queue. Joe Karloche. Okay, cool, thank you, Mr. Chair. So before I get into my comments, if I can through the chair, to I don't know, I guess maybe Mr. Peterson or whoever, what would the logistics be with a CBA board and Audi's board? They make the recommendation to OED, OED brings it back to Council, Council approves it, then it goes out the door, just a head nod, is that? Okay, cool. So for my personal preference, and I'll leave it to the committee members for this, sort of, I think the county wide board doesn't need to be established. I think it's kind of, if you have, if you want a board of seven people, but there's 19 city council members representing our county, I think, you're not gonna get the job done with seven people and I think the people sitting on this dius will know those countywide initiatives. I do believe there should be a board for out east because that is a focused specific area and those needs, I think needs to be a little bit more nimble in their conversations. So I think first and foremost on Mr. Nun's presentation, the keys to CBA success, the number one thing was community engagement and understanding the critical needs, which I think y'all have already, y'all have done that. So we know we've engaged the community, we understand the critical needs to create a CBA board for county-wide initiatives. I don't think it's necessary. I think we can get a little bit more fast-paced movement there. Just going OED to council. Out east, I do believe that would warrant a CBA board of sorts because that's a 30-year commitment from the Jaguars. We need continuity there. That's a very specific focus, specific need type of, I don't think structure so that's just my thought process Mr. Chair so I'll leave that open for discussion for everybody thank you thank you for that I'd like to recognize past President Mr. Salem just to say hi we have Councilmember Falluso on the queue right now. Hello. I would like to go with committee members first. Thank you. Thank you Chair. Never did I think that I would be able to cut off Councilmember Salem such a day you know it'll never happen again right? They can share for that. So to the point that Council Member Carlucci brought up, I mean, I would like to see the Eastside Coalition kind of come to us with potential recommendations for what this Eastside board group entity could look like. To the point of what Council Member Halle and brought up, he's right. I mean, if we're going to seed authority or power to another entity or board, and we do that, we have done that for other. I mean, you know, the chambers are economic development arm. We give them their own authority and they have their own board stuff like that. So like, I'm fully comfortable with doing it. If we feel as though there is a good strategic plan, they know what's going on. But the coalition has been at this for a while. I kind of want to hear what they have to say. In the coming, you know, I'm not saying come up here today with a fully big plan, but let's make sure we have that in the next three weeks, right? I'm totally on board with that. And yeah, I mean to the point that I made up earlier, we have the cut with the Homelessness Commission already where dollars can go. That's the real question that I have. I don't know who doles those down. So that's going to be something that I'm intrigued by as we continue to move forward. Again, we've got the Chamber, we've got FSCJ, we've got goodwill here. Thank you, Pigeas. Other entities that can kind of help us kind of figure out where those dollars can go to really affect the community in the best way. So I really kind of want to see what is the, what what a, again, I don't want to create more boards, but whether a piece, you know, economic development, you could help kind of create a grant system. I don't know. But that's kind of where my head is at. I don't want to create all these new entities. I want something for each side and then I want to see, you know, other ways to get these dollars out where we already have a structure in place. Thank you. Man, speak please, sir. That's right. First of all, thank you. Each one of you for being candid, and I can tell you, each one of you, you've been very thoughtful in your processes and your stances, and I absolutely support it and respect them. So literally, no pushback. I just ask that you think about it. If you're only gonna do one board, for example, and it's gonna focus on everything, just understand you gotta have the right people, which I know we would do, and you gotta understand it's gonna be time, focus, and energy for those folks. It might be more time focused on energy for them to be able to consider out east and all counting-white efforts. So just consider that whenever you are ultimately making the decision in that regard. I think you'll see today, beginning today, the great work out east. They literally have one of the best coalitions in the city. Working together, thinking strategically, working across nonprofits, business owners, community leaders, faith-based leaders, you name it. They have brought folks together to make certain that they've thought this whole thing through. You will see a strategy. I've shared with you that if it's going to be possible to get the money that we are going to be ultimately spending hopefully, what if approved. If to get the outcomes that we really need, you have to have a leadership oversight structure that's really working and effective. You've got to have a good strategy and plan and you've got to have committed funding. Without those three, I am concerned that we're going to come up short the way many organizations do. They start out with the best of intentions. Only to find out they're missing one of those three and they never crossed the finish line. Thank you, sir. I know we have all three checked off here in this committee as it is council members and also with the administration. So we'll figure it out. Mr. Matt Carlucci, please Mr. Chair I I like what's been brought to us. This is a community benefits agreement and I like to community based boards to community-based boards. This community benefits agreements, and I think we should reach into the community and bring people together and let them give us what their thoughts are. There is one concern that I would have, and that is on the 14 million that goes to each district City Council member, or maybe not to the member but to the district area. I think that district council person should have the most say over that. I'm not sure that I'd want to see that go through a community group. That is in 10. Okay. Council members, we drive that. Okay, so that makes me feel better about that. But I want to remind this group that this is a community benefits agreement. And I just think it makes sense to reach into the community for people who want to get engaged. They want to help. And I tell you, the best advice I get is from people that want to get engaged but can't find a way in and they give me their opinion of windixing. Or at gate where I'm filling up gas. All right. So community benefits agreement. Two groups. One for the east side and the other for the other. The other elements that are left. I just want to give you, that's my opinion. I think if we don't do that, we're going to dilute the whole thing and it won't be as focused. I think that's the big thing I heard from through the chair to my friend, Chief of Staff, Dornhill Smith, is focused. And I think it should be focused that's coming and bubbling up from the community. So I like what they brought to us. That's all I had to say. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, sir. Up next I have a committee member, Paluso, but I have Mr. Salem, and I'm not going to skip you again from Mr. Paluso, so you go ahead, sir. I don't know why I'm catching all this grief today. Mr. Smith, you mentioned through the chair, Mr. Smith. You mentioned a few minutes. I was upstairs, listening and taking care of a couple of other things. I maxed some of $25 million a year, which caught my ear, because it was 40 and 40, and I'm not sure where the 14 fell in as well. So are you, so you're extending the 25, 25, 25 for three or four years now? Can you explain that? Or do you have a charter or a handout or something? I don't have it with me, but I do have a chart. Long and short of it is we heard you, heard each one of you who gave feedback that your concern was that there was so much coming out in two years, roughly $80 million. And the thought process was, well, see what we can do differently to be able to hear that. I remember distinctly speaking with Council President White on that particular effort. And that was really important to him, that we think differently about how to approach this. And so we've done for out east, we've worked with the colleagues out east, $30 million over three years. For countywide, it'll be $40 million over four years. And so that is what we're recommending that is a part of the legislation, not 2024-9-5. Okay, well, and I'd like to just give you my perspective. Over the break, I spent quite a bit of time out in the out east, took a tour, had some meetings. I'm out in the out east, took a tour, had some meetings, and I really like the model to have out there. They have, from what I can tell, the pieces out there in order to provide funding. And I would like to see out east, receive some funding in order to improve their area. I'm fully on to that. The other parts I have a lot of questions about, but I'm committed to whatever I can do for out east. So the amount you just mentioned was 70 million. You said 30. 50, I'm sorry. 50. 30 and 50,, I'm sorry. In 50. 30 in 50, am I apologize? 30 in 50, okay, so it's still 80 million. Mr. Nunn, can you come up for a second? You and I talked a lot about the CRA, and you heard my concerns about the CRA. Colleagues, we have, as far as I'm concerned, a $47 million whole in our budget right now. It's being plugged by reserves, which is unacceptable to me. And I'm going to do what I can to correct that. I see R.A. Deplates from the general revenue. And our chief, our auditor here mentioned $300 to $500 million over 30 years. We would lose in our general revenue out here and as it was explained to me originally, it's a self-proclaimed CRA. We're just going to set up a CRA in this area versus what we have in Arlington that I was very involved in that went through the state and got approved and we had to do a disparity study. It took years to do that and the one out in the Soutel area went through the same process. You indicated that maybe this was going through the state, I have not heard that officially. Is this CRA going through a state process or is it going to be self-proclaimed? Sir, at present it is not contemplated my preference and I speak on behalf of the together east side coalition, is for this to go through what they call a URA process, It allows the program to be administered by a nonprofit, but it still requires that the community and the board develop a holistic plan and that that plan be approved by the City Council and no monies be spent except in accordance with that plan. Okay. So that is what my favorite is I don't necessarily, I can't speak for the mayor's office. I understand. Colleagues, my concern is if, and thats established in Out East, we could have six CRAs and we are completely depleting revenue from the general fund. If it's this easy to get a CRA in Out East, will other council members want to set up CRAs in this district? As I said previously, it's a terrible idea. Unless it goes through the state process like the other CRAs that we have in this community. It's an intensive process. It takes years to do. We should not be randomly setting up CRAs or we could lose $500 million in revenue to our general fund. It's not going to impact my time on the council. They don't want to pack future councils and I will not vote for that. I will not make that mistake. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Senum. Jimmy. Thank you, Chair. To the council made by the House President. I believe that they're Pretty legitimate concerns about creating CRA is all over the city I fully understand the CRA process what it takes to go through the state Understood entirely however This is a very unique area and this is a part of a CBA deal with the Jaguar Stadium deal very unique area and this is a part of a CBA deal with the Jaguar Stadium deal, right? So, I think that this makes it so much more unique than any other neighborhood throughout the city, especially right now, given the time constraints and the time concerns of we don't want displacement in that area. Whether or not it's a 30-year TIF because it sounds to me like it wouldn't be an official CRA, whether it's a 30-year TIF, a 20 20-year tip. I remember Council Member Emerow during the process for the stadium deal was talking about making it a 15-year. I mean, I agree. Those are large numbers. However, those numbers are created because of the advancement of the neighborhood, right? So if those dollars were never put in there to begin with, we may not be seeing those advanced numbers moving forward. So it just needs to be kind of considered. I actually initially got on the queue because I had heard Councillor Carlyucci bring up how the council members should be on the board. I just wanted to also mention there are two council members that touched this area. It's not just council district seven. It's also council district 10 Jacoby Pittman. So this is a part of her district as well. So I'm not saying, you know, maybe only one of us gets on there or whatever else. I just want to make sure that other people know that this is multiple districts that this touches. Thank you so much. Thank you for that. So like I said earlier, this conversation is just so we could have the conversation now to have dialogue. The goal would be August 12th. I think it is August 12th. No, August 12th, I think it is, August 12th for us to have the conversation on the CBA, the board to actually file a legislation to then August 26th, the last meeting they actually have the close up and the wrap up on that. If it was up to me, I would choose to have one board just because, like you mentioned, having more manpower to staff these boards, redundancy and work, some of these action items are essentially crossovers from when you're talking about homelessness and affordable housing and economic development. So I don't see why there has to be multiple boards to address the same issues, even though some are primarily for east side and some are for countywide. But as a conversation we're gonna have. And I'm open to all options here. My biggest thing is just not having redundancy and having the right manpower so the city does not have to continue to have more manpower on this part. One of the ideas though that I did think about was earlier this morning in conversation was if we create one master board can we also create subcommittees of those master boards and one of the subcommittees could be a county wide effort or a east side effort. That's another option we could have right rather than creating multiple boards just having subcommittees on these boards. And then they could give a recommendation to the master board as to where and how the dollar should be appropriated. Part of the conversation. So, thank you for that. Let's move on to the next topic item, which will be the presentations. And I have lift on the queue first. David, together east side. David Garnefalko. and sorry, you come up. And before you start the presentation, I want you guys to address to the body and to everybody watching this, what comprises the Eastside? What is the Eastside? When I was there, I was a little bit confused, and we're looking at $30 million potentially going into the east side, will those dollars go towards out east? Will they be divided evenly across all sectors of the east side? And back to my initial question, what are those sectors of the east side? Start off with that first, and then name an address please for the record, and then continue with your presentation. Thank you. Well, thank thank you firstly. Travis Williams, no David, I look alike. So you may have, we get that a lot, similar height, melanin, all that stuff. But Travis Williams will lift jacks and also a member of the together East Side Coalition. First you want to thank you guys for the opportunity. Thank you to the council for this committee. Thank you to the Council for this committee. Thank you to the mayor's office as well for their work with us, a very collaborative process that we've been through with them over the last several months. And what I've seen is a response from both the mayor's office and the Jags, not just listening to the concerns, but also responding to them in this CBA asBA as proposed really as a response to the responses from this group. The work of advocates in the East Side goes back generations and it's happened for a long time. Today you hear our leg in the relay race of advocating for the East Side. So this together East Side Coalition which really was put together for the sole purpose of being an organized group that can collaborate with the City of Jacksonville and with the Jaguars around making sure that there was inclusion of the Eastside into the CBA. This group is made up of residents, religious leaders, business owners, advocates, experts in planning, housing, economic development, urban and neighborhood developers, organizational leaders and partners. Today you're here from a small subset of that group, including Dr. Rudy Jamison, the third generation East Islander and the COJ executive, Arion Randolph, a resident leader and entrepreneur, Suzanne Pickett with historic Eastside CDC, and also current resident of the neighborhood, David Garfunk, where I myself with live checks. Many members of the coalition are in attendance today. I want to make sure I take the opportunity to recognize them because they put in a lot of hours, hundreds of hours together over the last 12 months. Putting this together, you'll see a list of those folks here in a second. What we'll get a chance to do today is to clearly articulate a few questions to this group. And those questions around what, who and where is the East Side? Because that is an important question. What process has the Together East Side Coalition been through over the last 12 months to become an organized group that can collaborate with the mayor's office and the Jaguar as for a thoughtful inclusion into the CBA. It's exciting to hear questions that you guys are asking today that we put a lot of thought into back in January. It shows that we were on the right track and it shows that some of you guys are really asking the right questions. What we believe are the right questions. And then lastly, what is the current capital absorption capacity of the partners in the east side and where the plans to execute on this funding? Because we do have plans and we do believe there's ability to execute. And so with that being said, who's driving the presentation? Am I driving? That's not good. And for the record, sir, we will have 10 minutes in the clock for the presentation. Thank you So we have a quick agenda we'll go through today and I just went through I went through some of that And so quickly jumping to these how this is a video you guys can watch your leisure is four minutes It takes into too much time, but it's a video about the history history of the neighborhood No, no, don't play it. It takes up too much time. So they'll watch it at their leisure. So if you could just go to the next live for me. Okay. This goes into a little bit of the history of the East side, but again, I will let you guys to your leisure watch the video. This is what I will say specifically, the last bullet point. This is a historic neighborhood. This is a historic neighborhood. This is a sacred neighborhood. It was a neighborhood that is on the National Register of Historic Places. And one of the important things about making sure we protect this neighborhood is the state of Florida told us that this is the largest intact historic African American neighborhood on the National Register in the state of Florida. It is truly a sacred place. And these kind of protections and investments, including a national register, help us to hold that sacred culture and rich history in place as we build for the future. Just to orient us to the neighborhood of the east out of out east as we like to call it, this is a map that really shows what we call the five boroughs of the east side that you hope you will talk about these different sections of the neighborhood. You have Fearful and Oakland which are the most southern portions of the neighborhood. Campbell's Edition, Phoenix and Long Branch. These five areas make up what we call the historic east side. And we also want to point you to the things happening around the neighborhood. These things represent great opportunity, but these things also represent a lot of pressures that are on the neighborhood. What you have identified here represent nearly $3 billion to over $3 billion in development, playing within half a mile of this neighborhood within the next three to five years. great opportunity, but it also represents the opportunity for us to be able to maximize those opportunities, but also mitigate the risks that come from a proximate development. With that being said, I want to hand it over to Dr. Rudy Jamison to take us to the next meeting. Good afternoon. Rudy Jamison. Many of you know me as the executive director for the Human Rights Commission. But I stand before you today as a member of the together Eastside Coalition. I was born and raised out east. I had the pleasure of growing up in the same house that my mother and all of her siblings grew up in, and I'm currently a returning resident to our east. Growing up, our east, many of us, were taught to get a good education, get a good job, and to get out. And what you're going to see with Together East Side Coalition is us re-imagining and rewriting that narrative. We are experiencing a rare moment in the history of Jacksonville. We have an opportunity to transform the oldest intact African-American community in the state of Florida. This CVA can be a pivotal moment for all of Jacksonville. Pivotal moments like consolidation, like the Better Jacksonville plan, the Jacksonville pivotal moments like consolidation like the better Jacksonville plan the Jacksonville journey and of course the Jacksonville Jaguars the together eastside coalition wants to be a trusted trusted partner to develop and protect out east we want out east to be a destination neighborhood for all of Jacksonville the leadership is in place for outies to be the next Avondale, the next San Marco, or the next beaches. Now you're going to hear from Ariane Randolph a little bit about the process that together Eastside has been working on. Thank you. Greetings Ariane Randolph. 620 Odessa Street, Jacksonville Florida, historic Eastside. So, this is the slide that you should be on. Not sure if everyone can see it. So, more on thank you. So, more on how we got to where we are. The planning process has been happening over decades. And personally, I was the intern with the we got to where we are. The planning process has been happening over decades. And personally, I was in turn with the city of Jacksonville's planning and development department on the first plan in 2001, the East Jacksonville neighborhood action plan. So that's how long I've been there. I'm a fourth generation e-sider. And I live in my grandmother's house. And then she purchased the house from nurse Nelson who was the community's nurse and midwife doing gym curl segregation. And again, I'm there with my family, my children, and my husband, very intentional about where we are and teaching them to come back to the community and bring their gifts and talents. I'm next slide. So, these decades of work bring us to, let's say the past 12 months. And we've pretty much been building on all of these plans that we have. Over the past 12 months, there's a timeline that you have of kind of how we've came together, why we came together. But again, we've been very intentional about that. We began that formal process, as you can see, in the summer of 2023, again, kind of fast forward to the end of 2023, when we began to educate our community on what is a CBA, why it's important, why we should be learning about it, and then we decided as a community to come together on that, the one issue of the CBA and form this coalition to say, hey, no matter what our differences are, or what kind of silos we've been working in, we're going to come together on this one issue, learn about it and educate ourselves on it. Next slide. Here you will see that we also this whole process has included again community members, faith-based leaders, business owners, but we also took the time to educate ourselves with subject matter experts. So the top part of that is all of the people who came together, we did a memorandum of understanding to say,, hey, here's how we're gonna work together. And then we brought in these subject matter experts in a very high concentrated time to educate ourselves on all of the things that you're talking about now, affordable housing, economic development, so forth and so on. And so with that, I'm gonna bring up our next person, Ms. Suzanne Pickett. Thank you. Good afternoon. You can go to the next slide, Suzanne Pickett, 1105 Phelps Street. I am the President-C-O of Historic East Side CDC. And so thank you again for having us this afternoon. So we talk about the CBA and our accomplishments. We'd like you to be aware that all of the work and initiatives in the CBA, we've already started. We've been working on for decades. But all of our partners shown, several of our partners shown on this screen are here in the audience today, available to answer any questions you might have. Next slide. So a very important part of our historic preservation is the preserving the legacy of the East Side neighborhood. One initiative is our mixed income initiative with our Restorement Pair Program. So through our Restorement P income initiative with our restore repair program. So through our restore repair project with our partners, we restored over 70 homes since 2022. We've invested over a million dollars into investment in Eastside residents. A hundred percent of our contractors are minority owned businesses from all over, from all sides of the city, not just east side. Our repairs include new roofs, HVAC facade improvement, weatherization, but the impacts are improved mental health and health outcomes. We've done over 200 referrals to three rivers legal for probate and the air's property service, which is an important part of our initiative to prevent and mitigate displacement. Next slide. We've had several questions about how we're going to assist our residents. How are they going to stay in the neighborhood when the taxes increase and when new developments come in? We provide monthly services to these homeowners and these residents again to work with them individually to displace, to mitigate displacement of these residents in the neighborhood. The majority of these residents are seniors who've been, some of them born in their houses or born in the East Side and still live here. Next slide. We have partnered with, We have partnered with local and non-local developers, affordable housing developers, to acquire using city funds. So we thank you guys for that. City funds to increase our income initiative by acquiring two apartment complexes, apartments that receive a 6 and a 25 on the hood react score out of 100. So we're excited about the possibility of continuing upward mobility for our residents. Next slide. We are partnering with Liz Jacksonville, who is in the office on the Project Boots Initiative. We also have residents in any audience who are Project Boots participants, who Dr. Jamison talked about the opportunity to move back into the community. We're excited about that. And then we have high quality affordable housing. There have been 40 plus new homes built in the East side with partners. And those partners are also in the audience if you have any questions for them. And then we were an introducer next speaker. Thank you. And then we were an introduce our next speaker. Thank you. Let's find more minutes to complete this presentation. Thank you. Thank you for that. And those are some of the presenters that Suzanne mentioned as far as those who are doing those homes and I will add. These are also partners who use surplus lots and they did build affordable houses in the east side. It's going to be very clear about that that we have partners who did follow through that and they're continuing to follow through, follow through on that. So next slide please. So one of the other areas is economic development. I think we're still on. Okay. It's economic development and so some of the work that collective has been a part of is investing in our businesses in our corridor. Aful of Randolph is one of the most important corridors in the urban core. There are two corridors that lead to the sports entertainment district and the four seasons hotel, Bay Street and Aful of Randolph, or affectionately called Florida Avenue if you're from the neighborhood. Those are the two corridors and so we have been over the last few years focusing efforts and investing in the current business owners that fall within that corridor investments in painting and murals the Eastside has the best murals in the city if you want to see good murals please come floor to Avenue investments in the business owners investments in new signs you see at the bottom left corner there we're currently installing new signs we just had a new business that has not had a sign in 30 years. Just get a sign last Friday and she's ecstatic about it. And again, the mirrors on one of the biggest things that this group, including the ESO Legacy Business Council, did was work together to bring Jacksonville. It's first, our repeat, it's first designated Main Street. Our city has never had a designated Main Street. It is a nationally recognized organization with main streets all around the country. Many of you have probably vacationed on these main streets and the East Side group was able to convince the Florida Main Street Board that we were ready for a main street and I think that's something that is worthy of praise and celebration and we look forward to continuing to educate the community on our investments in the corridor. Next slide please. One of our biggest events and organizations that does economic development is the melanin market. This is what begins as a quarterly event and it's increased, brings thousands of people to our corridor and to our community and also provide services for small and minority and owned businesses throughout the city. Next slide, please. This was a program we did with the Jagross construction ready came from Atlanta, Georgia, the implement in the city and we're able to train dozens of residents across the city, but also on the east side and it had over 90% unemployment rate for those who graduate for the program. Next slide, please. And this is a prime example. We talk about capacity and types of projects that are already being done. This is the DevStore project that many of you guys may have heard about or visited. DevStore is a public-private partnership project. It is a mix-use building. The East Side is both a food desert and a banking desert. This building solves both of those solutions. It would be a neighborhood market at the bottom, revitalizing the historic and iconic dev store, and then the top will solve the banking needs with Vystar Credit Union, having a micro-brench, and then Goodwill be doing a job and work first training for adults as well as implementing programs like take stocking kids on the second floor. This shows the capacity, the capital absorption ability and our ability to work with public dollars to leverage them. This is a $3 million project. It leveraged at $650,000 from the city's Office of Economic Development, a million dollars from the state and turned that into nearly 1.5 million private dollars to make this project happen. And with that, I'll pass it over to my colleague David to bring us home. Thank you. Good afternoon, David Garfunkel. President of lift jacks and a proud proud member of the Eastside Coalition, my address is 40 East Adam Street. What I want to do here quickly is just bring us home in how we would like to move forward together. Acknowledging that the governance and the board and there are certain steps that we need to figure out still before we can actually appropriate and allocate these resources, we wanted to demonstrate to you very briefly here that we believe we're ready for these dollars. We have a proposed budgetary estimate and some specific projects to or categories of projects to outline. So the two, again, categories that we've talked about are one affordable and attainable housing and the second is economic development and a focus on infrastructure and amenities. Overall, objective just very briefly is to increase the number of affordable and workforce housing units. Very importantly, ensure that existing residents are not displaced by rising housing costs, mitigating and preventing homelessness, and then prioritizing the rehab and reuse of existing homes. On the economic development side, implementing a commercial corridor master plan for historic east side, the Main Street Initiative lays the foundation for that, preserving historic structures and streetscaping, supporting small businesses and entrepreneurship and innovation, both existing businesses as well as new businesses. Sorry, I'm going to be a minute to finish your thought. Sorry about that. No problem. And providing loans. So quickly here, just because I know we got a minute left, talked about the strategic priority, three key investments. Capital needs for development of housing that's gap funding down payment assistance. Focus on clear title and air's property and the third is really our home repair program. Property improvements, I won't read these in detail, but those measurable outcomes below are based on our experience about what can be accomplished with these resources and what we believe we can deliver. Similarly, for economic development infrastructure, amenities, the commercial corridor of focus as well as the small business support as are two key investments, and you can see some measurable outcomes there about reactivating vacant commercial spaces bringing new businesses in and supporting business growth. And finally, budgetary estimates just so you can get a little bit of a vision in how we would envision these $30 million over three years across those same categories that we've presented before. Thank you very much for your time this afternoon and any of us, including myself already for questions. Should you have them? Thank you and we do have two committee members on this queue, so starting off with Mr. Halvin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Great presentation from the LIPJAX team and other folks on the Together East Side Coalition. I had a couple thoughts as David and Rudy know I'm a big fan of the historic East Side and the potential it has as a community. I'm particularly bothered by the fact that that part of the city has a 12% unemployment rate when the rest of the city has a 3% to 4% unemployment rate. So economic growth in the east side has always been something that I'd consider heavily. Along those lines maybe we'll hear from Mr. Grant later, the first thing that is of interest to me is seen on the map that Rudy showed. I don't know where Rudy went, but he's back there somewhere. There he is. He's behind Joe. That Rudy showed it didn't seem like it was in the shaded area, the port was in the shaded area. And I remember when you and I talked and you were growing up on the east side, the port was in the shaded area. And I remember when you and I talked, and you were growing up in the east side, you're talking about how the predominant industry of a lot of the families on the east side was maritime. Steve Adors and other maritime workers, Longshoremen, all that kind of thing. Seems to me we're having a renaissance in that part. Commodore Point with Fincantary, we got Crowley growing considerably. I'd love to see incorporating rejuvenation of workforce development along the maritime trades in that area because I think it could be great for the community. That's one thing. Second thing is we had a lot of discussion in our golf cart tour a couple years ago of the East Side about public safety. And I don't see much mentioned the east side about public safety. And I don't see much mentioned in the presentation about public safety. So I'd like to look at that as well. I wonder actually, David could probably answer this. How the Franklin Arms Project is going. Yes, sir, thank you for the questions through the chair. To that point about public safety, our understanding of public safety is, especially when it comes to the multi-family housing. It's public safety is really two sides of the same coin. One being property management and ensuring that the apartments are kept up and frankly that there's not criminal activity allowed. And then the second, of course, is enforcement. And we have a great relationship with Sheriff Waters' team with JSO. But specifically to your question, Suzanne mentioned two of the apartments and then Franklin Arbs is the third. We've acquired over the last year 200 units of multi-family housing in the neighborhood, which RSMIT is 50% to 70% of the crime was emanating from those apartments. So I'm not going to sit here before you and say that everything is solved today, but we're well on the way with our partners to improving those apartments. Thank you. And my third area is I'm speaking out of school literally here because you're here around about to talk about because economic development particularly as it relates to neighborhood and lift jacks model and how it's been successful in other parts. I don't know how much education is part of that and education is not necessarily in the purve of city council school boards a separate. But it seems to me with Gilmore and Springfield, maybe there's a dearth of high school level education opportunities. I know all the kids have to go across the city. I wonder if there's a day where there could be a workforce development focused, high school kind of charter school that could come and help as part of the workforce development opportunities and unemployment rate reduction To be part of a longer term together Eastside coalition and strategy. Those are just three thoughts I had The rest of the time. Thank you Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Sadam Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Sadam. Thank you, Chair. Through the Chair. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. One of the things we probably did not talk about when we took the tour, I am frustrated by rental housing versus own housing. I know there are a lot of people in this town that build homes and you get renters and there are renters for the rest of their lives and that is very frustrating to me. I got a bought a home at an early age. I think most of us here have a own home and that ought to be the American dream. And I notice gap funding, down payment assistance and's great, but that's not the end of the story. They get into a house, they're AC breaks, and then they're out of the house because they can't fix it. So it's not just that funding, but education or how to manage a house and those repairs and everything else. Can you give me a feel for the number of homes where gap funding or down payment assistance has been utilized out east and do you have a program to help these people manage their homes long term? Absolutely, through the chair to Councilman Salem. I'm not sure if our colleagues from habitat are still here, but I would direct your attention to that slide we had previously with our implementing partners. That is why we are working direct partnership with the have a jacks and other affordable housing developers because that is a critical part of the program. So while I might not have exactly all the answers up here, I can assure you that our ecosystem partners, that's exactly the kind of work that they do. To date, not even to date, really over the last two to two years, we have provided down payment assistance through our different partners to, we mentioned 40 homes or 50 homes have been built. I would venture to say that 85 or 90% of those homeowners receive some form of down payment assistance, whether privately funded or through a city program, for example. And so that is an integral part of how we deliver housing into the neighborhood. My concern is all the empty locks that you have out there have now been purchased by various people where their model is the model that I described. And you're going to have an abundance of rental housing. I see some heads out there nodding. They know what I'm saying. How do we, I mean, it's the market and I understand what's going to happen. But is there anything we can do to make those rentals home owners? From the, I think you told me you have 800 empty lots out east. I think that was the number, the sticks of my mind. And I'm sure 90% of those are owned by developers that use the model that I described. Through the chair, it's absolutely a dynamic in the neighborhood. I think we still have a window of opportunity. Many of those empty lots are owned by families, by local faith-based institutions, by other legacy residents, where we now have an opportunity to work with them, to actually bring back homes into the neighborhood and work with them to develop them for home ownership. I think rental, you know, the rental model is absolutely a viable one for many businesses and people. It's not for everybody. And so there are lots of people that we know and come across daily who have lots in the neighborhood are saying, hey now it seems like there's something happening in our neighborhood. How do we work with you to actually redevelop those homes? So the issue of rental housing is not, I should say that dynamic is going to be there, but I still think there's absolutely an opportunity for us to. But I would venture to guess 90% of the people that are renting would like to home owned, but they don't have the down payment, and they don't have the resources to manage that house long term. I would say- And this is not unique to Mount East by any means. My only addition to that would be not yet at least and that's part of what we're working on closely with Suzanne Pickett and the CDC who knows everybody in the neighborhood is how do we work with those renters to get them in the door, understand what the pathway to home ownership is, how do we connect them with down payment assistance and other partners so they can achieve that American dream of home ownership. So it's not going to be for everybody, acknowledging that, but there are tools that we have. And to go back to my point, this is why, from my perspective perspective I would like to see us totally focus on out east. I'd like to see us create a neighborhood next to that stadium that is a San Marco or is an Avondale over a period of time putting a more than the resources and getting away from the county wide and focusing on that one neighborhood as much as we can as we have Jaguar resources, I think, to do that. That's just my own perspective. I think sometimes we're looking at a shotgun approach and that's not going to work in my opinion. We really need, in my opinion, we should focus on one particular area in this program and really do a lot of work in that area. Appreciate your response, David. Keith, starting to fill up now. I do have Mr. Proluson. Thank you, Chair. Genuinely, you have no idea how incredibly happy I am to hear. You just said Councilman Salem. you said Councilman Halle, you know, the concerns of the rental market versus the home buyer market is very real in this city and it touches Eastside a lot. And so I'm excited for us to get the presentation about hopefully project boots from Dr. Cohen to kind of talk about how we can get more homeownership and that's in tandem with the rest of the coalition. And then with Councilman Howand, FSCJ is here. And they will be presenting, I believe, at some later date to really talk about, you know, yeah, for those who don't have a high school degree or want to get more into the technical fields, we have an incredible institution not very far. If we just have a good bus system that takes people there, we can get a lot of folks educated in the exact skills that we need. What I wouldn't do to see a maritime academy here to help get people the advanced skills necessary to work on the working waterfront, which is only going to get bigger and better because of the great work that Jack Spill's doing. But I just kind of want to take a quick pause to thank my colleagues for really truly taking the time and energy to diagnose the problems here and what they want to see to help accomplish it. You're all saying the right things. Thank you, Mr. Boyle. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do appreciate the opportunity to speak and through the Chair to David, heirs property. I heard story after a story of people who generationally have lived in this neighborhood and I know when we focus on hurricane Irma's and their long-term recovery work, I love the challenges as the verification of ownership. Is there something in your plans to focus on air's property? Could you speak to that? Through the chair, yes sir. Councilman Boylin, we actually, I know I had to breeze through it, but at least in our budgetary estimates, I think we have at least a million dollars allocated specifically through that purpose. Many things to Dr. Cohen and the team at Lisk Jacksonville. We've got that tool in our tool kit now and just to use round numbers for basically less than $5,000, we can get legal support to have somebody clear up their title. And so it's this kind of mundane, you know, wonky sort of thing that now is kind of top mind for a lot of us, which is terrific. But we have the tools in place. And our last estimates showed about 15% to 20% of homes in the historic east side have air property issues. So we know where they are, we know where the folks are, we've got the tools. So it's a long-lan, long answer. No, and I do have three things. And I know three rivers can be played a significant role in that process as well, to speaking to former President Sam's comments with respect to ownership. And I think I said, a pivotal area when you need to stay focused on. I want to just to get a general reaction to the concerns. It's clearly a lot of work has been put into this and the confidence of that you have, and I know you've been leading a lot of this conversation with all due respect to the others. When you hear about some concerns about setting up a board to focus on out east and the concerns that Councilmember Salem raised. How competent are you that we can carve out this work and make it work and provide us with the confidence of supporting it? So I'll let you give a chance to speak to that. Yeah, through the chair, we feel very confident. You know, certainly from an organizational perspective, from lift jacks, we are glad to receive city support and grateful for it. And we understand the accountability that that entails. And I've been here on a number of occasions just personally from an organizational perspective to report back. That is the expectation. When you're receiving any dollars, private or public, but specifically with government dollars, we know that that's a part of it. And we feel very confident that we can and will fulfill any sort of reporting, transparency, accountability, ethics. You name it. This is, we're taking this very seriously, which I hope you see in our presentation today. And I do want to emphasize that I appreciate the comments that I've heard from some of your colleagues about the desire to really center Eastside residents, business owners, and faith leaders in the governance and oversight, not the oversight, in the actual strategic direction of these resources. The oversight belongs to the council, but we would love to see a mechanism developed where we have as many Eastside residents with their fingerprints on this because after all they're the ones who know they're community the best. Thank you Mr. Carducci. Joe Carducci. All right, thank you Mr. Chair. The one thing I just wanted to say again and you guys might already know this but the Avenue grill that did the new facade grant that just kind of jog my memory of the bill that we did. So we're all, because there's money available right now for outies and they are in one of the targeted areas for $5,000 and $10,000 of grants for J.C.C. So, like, is that what they use through the chair to Mr. Garfunk? I don't know if you know the answer to this. Yeah, through the chair that we, that was, that was privately funded. Okay. Actually, Through the chair that we that was that was privately funded Actually However we Endeavor whenever we're doing anything to match, you know, and that's that's where we're at our best is where we're taking Private dollars and leveraging public dollars, so that specific sign. I can tell you it's privately funded But I've been working with with Ed Randolph and team to make sure that we're finding those other opportunities as well Okay, cool and through the chair I'll I can just give you a brief after this meeting or whatever. But yeah, there's a lot of money set aside for this specific thing in this area. And again, it's it's it's non-matching dollars. So it's 5,000, 10,000 for just pretty much brand new façades in this area. So thank you, Mr. Chair. And that was actually the other special community that Council of Aries chair the J.C.C. committee so I'll get with you after this thank you. Thanks. Thank you for that great presentation by all of you today. I do have some questions and some of them have already been asked but regarding the board question that we had initially I just want to take you to see your input on as to what you would you guys be okay with just having one master board? Do you guys want your own specific board for the east side? Thank you. Our preference is to have something that is local and specific to the historic east side. Councillor, you had mentioned different structures or master board or something beneath it. The principles that are most important to us is that this should be populated by folks who are close to the issues. The specific structure of that, I understand we need to work through. What we have talked about as a coalition for really the last six or eight months would be that there would be actually a new entity stood up, you know, 501 C3 that would, that the board structure would actually be populated by recommendations from council, from the administration, from the Jags, from the East side, and that that entity would actually be stood up to, to oversee these funds. And of course report back to council. And that could be an entity that would also receive funds through, for example, the TIFF district. That's something that the body would agree to follow through forward. So that's been what we have spoken about from the beginning, but understand that this is an ongoing conversation. Yeah, definitely. When I first asked a question, that's to what sectors are we looking at? You guys mentioned five different sectors, long fairfield and Oakland and outer east and Phoenix, right? I want to make sure that we're clear Phoenix is not Phoenix art district So I know some people are confusing that but that is a totally separate district But how much? Looking at 30 million dollars. Where will those $30 million go? Are they gonna go spread out evenly? Are you gonna focus primarily on outies? Because that is closest to the stadium. What are you guys looking at? The opportunity that we have here is to extend, I think, all the way up to the northernmost area, the long-range area. Naturally, it has been our focus to look mostly to the Fairfield and Oakland Campbell's editions to date, just because that's where we've gotten started, and that's where we've experienced the most pressure from different developments around the neighborhood. The opportunity here with a more significant amount of resources is to extend up to 21st Street and Long Branch to our neighbors in the northern most part of the neighborhood. And so I wouldn't want to venture sort of an equal allocation or necessarily know exactly where that would go just yet. But it is absolutely intention to go farther north into the neighborhood with these funds. OK. So are you waiting on the board to be created for that to determine how much and where? Or do you guys already have a strategic plan of action as to how you're going to distribute those dollars and then just waiting on the board to recommend Which entities and what projects will we fund it? Yeah, we Haven't yet gotten to that level of detail because we wanted to you know see how the conversation goes with respect to governance But that that budget slide that I showed in terms of the, this much for home repairs, this much for airs, this much for down payment assistance. We believe that that will spread across the neighbourhood. I would just say for example, in our home repairs, which is that third line item, we've done a lot of those in the southern part of the neighbourhood. We've done fewer in the north. So I think naturally that would make sense that we would do more home those in the southern part of the neighborhood we've done fewer in the north so I think Naturally that would make sense that we would do more home repairs in the northern part of the neighborhood All right, and my last question speaking of home repairs last week during finance committee meeting I know mr. Hicks was presenting and we were going over 2024-0470 on the Restore repair recidicin program, grant programs. When you talk about home repairs is that the program you're talking about or you talk about a different program. Yeah, it is that program. Okay. Which of which I guess we're looking at funding 845 thousand dollars. So I'm not sure if you can answer this question or Mr. Darnell Smith can but it seems to be that that's the only program that the city is directly funding towards the east side. Is that accurate or are there other programs that we are already funding directly only for the east side? What I want to know is essentially if we get this $30 million in and this grant program, how much other dollars are we already funding towards the east side? You know, I don't know of any specific, you know, organization that's receiving dollars only for out east. I do remember the lift jacks organization was getting funds, but I think that was last year. Yeah, over the last couple of years. Last couple of years. I don't think there's anything as we say here today that's going on toward a specifically out east but we can certainly look. Okay. I'll hold any more questions of mine for now. I have Mr. Hallow on the queue. Yeah, I just wanted to elaborate. I've had the opportunity to have council contingency funds for several years now on City Council and mine have either gone to Fruda Barron trees in Durkiewil or Liff Jackson East side every single year. So there have been city investments, including to invest right along the San Goodwill on the Debt's Grocery Workforce Development Project. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you for that. I don't want to drive this on a little more than it is because we are running into two hours now. We do have an indefinite amount of time, so we're not going to cancel the end of meeting anytime soon, but I definitely want to progress through this. So thank you for the presentation. And you were speaking about the Ears program, so now we have Dr. Cohen with the list. We'll also present on the ERS program as well. Sir, you have 10 minutes, please state your name and address for the record. Good afternoon, Dr. Irving Pedro Cohen, 216 East 9th Street. Do I have to do it all here? I'm sorry I appreciate it. If you could stop the time, I'd appreciate it. I've not used Served Council Member Areas, by the way. You just use the head. Yes. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next slide. Let's be put out there. Okay. Peter, you just want to start. I'm going to ask you to ask the staff to come in. Let's be put out there. Okay. Peter, you just want to start? Sure. Well, I would just, again, introduce myself. My name is Dr. Irvin Pedro Cohen. I am the executive director for Lisk Jacksonville. And for those of you who may not know what Lisk is, Lisk is an acronym and stands for local initiative support corporation. And we've been here in Jacksonville now for the last 25 years. And the East Side absolutely has historic out East Side has been a part of our DNA for the last 25 years. What we are, again, for those who don't know, we are a financial and social intermediary, financial in the sense that we provide capital to some of our community's most under-resource communities, and we also bring technical assistance to those very same neighborhoods. So you don't get the idea that we're putting good money on top of that money. We're actually there to store people through the entire process. Our strategic focus centers around creative place keeping, home repair, air's property, project boots, and then our lending again in those specific under-resource communities. Just so that you know, you've heard a lot of conversation around potential capital outlays, but for the last two years, specifically to the historic East Side, Liz has committed over $16 million to that specific community. And what that breaks down to is over the last two years we've resolved 30 air property cases, which according to the Brookings Institute, equates to $62,000 worth of dead equity that becomes available to homeowners. We resolve 74 state planning cases, which again, according to that saying research equates to $50,000 per family we also invested in three clothes loans to the tune of nine point six million dollars that equated to twelve affordable single-family homes and over 200 workforce units and if you want to know specifically what that looks like, that looks like the Union Street Terminal Station, which LISC was the initial loan for that. We've also did it, we also did for more million this year to capital ventures to Columbia Ventures to acquire the property right next door. That will be again more affordable workforce home units. And then we did a loan to in the word international ministries who also created 12 affordable single family residents. Just specifically so that you understand, you know, some of our research associated with Ares property, citywide there are probably 10,000 cases of air's property. Our research has suggested that the assessed value of those homes equate to $297,650. In his story, Esa, we found that there are 2700 single family units, and of that 15% or 405 of those are probable air's cases. 3% of those, or 81, are also subject to tax leans. Our work specifically around heirs property. Centres in 3204, 3206, 3208, 3209, and 3254. Councilman Boylin, your question was how much does it cost per heirs case? It's $5,000 to $8,000 per case. And just so that you know our work also, what we found through the research is what we found to help us be successful in the work of the air's properties to make sure that we have culturally relevant outreach. We found it's key, unclear ownership in this community impacts home value. And what we've also found is that once those homes are lost through air's property or a tax lane, they never return back as owner occupied. They return back as corporate rentals. So with that, I will pause and see if anyone has any questions relative to the work that we're doing with Air's property. All right, Mr. Haulin. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Dr. Cohen, thank you for that presentation. I think the Air's property project is a wonderful project. It's pretty much strikes at how Americans can leverage private property to build generation of wealth and value. Tell me if you know what are the primary things that folks who now recapture ownership of their home and therefore the value of their home, spend the money on if they're able to take out. Sure. We found that two things happen when people have access to that $62,000. They start a business or they send someone to some form of higher education. So that's what the research bears out now. The challenge with some of that is, Governor Santas suggested this year and made law that you can operate a small business from your house up to $250,000. And what we're trying to do, and we're going to commit some research dollars to find it now, what types of businesses do people start when they're doing this out of their homes. What my assumption is is that they now, they've already had a small business, and then what they do is just go buy better equipment to support that small business. So you're a line guy, you go buy a better equipment relative to your line service. They don't necessarily start a new business. Those business are already in existence. They just use the dollars specifically to upgrade the equipment they were already operating. Mr. Voluzum. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Dr. Cohen. So just because I wasn't sure if I heard you correctly said 2700 single-family homes are in the East Side or domiciles in the East Side and Road right now. Yes you said 81% of them are what we said 15% of them are probable air's property cases 3% of them which equates to 81 homes. I mean, yes, 81 homes are subject to some form of tax lien or some issues associated with taxes. What we've done as an agency to allow ourselves to have time, we've engaged in paying at least one year of taxes for those air's property issues that we are at the tail end of resolving. So we've been very intentional about our work relative to air's property. But again, it's a part of a larger strategy that we have. You mentioned earlier about project boost. Project boost is a list created program where we are working to bring people back to the neighborhood and to Councilman Salem's concern. It's a 10 month program where residents get access to down payment assistance But it's a 10 month program where we go over really financial wealth You know, I like to call it something larger than financial financial literacy. I want to call it something bigger than that It's literally how do you build wealth as a family? So we cover issues like establishing a trust, ladybird, de-properties, all of those things that keep wealth within the family. And we also have residents engaged in, a potential new residents engaged in, what does it mean to live in a community like historic East side? There are some social and cultural nuances that you need to understand when you move into the neighborhood. And so we make that a part of our project group sessions. Excellent. And to speak on project boots a little bit. So let's say somebody is in that home for about a year, and they can't make the ends meet like councilmember Salem mentioned do they now have a giant mortgage on their back or how does that kind of work so you know I hope is that we've established a good enough rapport with them over the over the last ten months that that they would come back to us and then have us engaged in ways to help you know save said property or at the very least give one of our partners an opportunity to purchase the property from them rather than lose the house and foreclosure. That, you know, it's all about intentionality with the work that we're doing. Just so you'll know, our first cohort started off with five people, our second cohort, which is currently going on includes 15 people, and we have a waiting list of over 150 people. And we are looking at, you looking at how do you expand this in other under-resource neighborhoods throughout our city? So 150 people are looking to use this program. And I'm assuming some of these dollars that would be used for the CBA would help kind of fund that. Make sure we have a larger cohort moving forward. Well, I think a part of that conversation is how do we plug in as an agency? The dollars that we have been using right now for project boots have been privately raised. So we would definitely be open to the idea of how do we engage in this process? I think one of the things that we have been intentional about, we don't have an income restriction on our program. I want the best and the brightest for as I'm concerned to avail themselves to coming back into these neighborhoods because it's my opinion that that's the way you truly get capacity within the neighborhood is by having, you know, Dr. James's and others like him to reengage and say I want to be back here in a neighborhood that helped me become Dr. Jameson. Well, the record reflect Dr. Jameson is the best in the brightest. No, I fully understand that I mean we I think you need that mixed income right you need to make sure that you do have The dr. Jameson's and you make sure you do have that college student or that person that's on their first job or their first career You know that's making maybe not the biggest bucks Trying to raise a family as well, so I think that's important and there's more people on the queue chair I didn't want to take up too much time. You already did, but thank you, sir. Mr. Boylin, you're next. Perfeor, I won't leave brief. Just very quickly, and I apologize. I've not realized Air's property was going to be a presentation. Dr. Coleman is going to bring to us today, and I'm very much appreciative of the fact that we've done that. because I think it's a very important issue as it relates to this community but also but it is countywide or citywide as well. And to that end although council member Carlochus not here and he chairs the neighborhood's committee I think it's important for us as a council to have a better appreciation of the role. List plays in this community at a variety of levels. Air property is just one small faction of the good works that the list does and I think it's important for us as council members to be more aware of the contribution you're making to this community. So I will be suggesting that the council member, Cardoji. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you. And great point, Mr. Boardman. I was just going to do the same thing. You know, these two programs are our ideal programs for our city and for our community. Dr. Cohen, would you say that the air's property program and the project boots are your top two catalyke programs that you offer or are there other programs that you also offer? I think they are the ones that get the most attention, but I love all my children equally. All right. I was actually able to tour the east side, maybe about a month ago, and I definitely visited a resident. Yes. There was, I guess, part of your first cohort of Project Boots. And I met with them. They had nothing but great things to say. The property, the house itself was beautiful. So I love the work that you guys are doing. You're looking at the second cohort right now, 15 people. Yes. And if I'm not mistaken, you guys are on a 10 month program. Or was it longer than that before? Is it going to be longer? You know, our first cohort were, you know, the test cases. And so we found a way to be a little more efficient. And so we cut down the program to 10 months. But it's a 10 month program. And we only give you the capacity to miss two classes. So we're very committed to what it is that we're teaching. The people that are involved in the program are very committed to receiving the information. And again our goal is to have people that can be that can walk out of our cohort and be contributing members to the community immediately. Thank you. You said these daughters were raised privately. So how much have you raised for this program? And I guess my main question is how much are you allocating for the second cohort right now? We, well we commit $10,000 to each other program participants that come out of our program So for every person that goes through project boots in the second cohort and beyond they will receive $10,000 to Was downpaping and closing costs All right, well actually I do do have a statement on the queue. Thank you, Chair. I have to leave, but I just obtained $9,220,4905 as well as the supplemental stadium community benefits agreement. I would urge all the council members if you've not gotten this, there's a lot of stuff in here that's of concern to me and I will be getting into it. I would urge everyone to get into these agreements because the specifics in here may be different than what you might be hearing and the agreements the one we're going to be held to. Thank you. you might be hearing and the agreements the one we're going to be held to. Thank you. Thank you. And note further questions, Dr. Cohen. Thank you for the presentation. Thank you. Moving on to our final presentation of the day. There will be economic development in the east side, Gregory Grant with the J7 local businesses. So you have 10 minutes for your presentation along with your local businesses if there are any house right now. To the Chair Gregory Grant, Equal Business Opportunity Director and JSA administrator. And I won't use up the whole 10 minutes. I want the local business owners to have a chance to speak. But I just want to speak on behalf of the JSEP program and also as it relates to the preservation of local small businesses out east. We've talked about a lot of different programming today, a lot of different subjects and topics. But one of the things that's really important is how do we preserve the economics on the east side and have them take advantage of the opportunities in that area. I've had the privilege to speak to a lot of the local businesses out east and speaking with them, there are a lot of things that are very important. And the JSA program does provide solutions to what is important to them. Specifically, education, community, capital, and also access to contracts. With all the opportunities come into the ESO, there's going to be a lot of contracts available. We have to make sure that our Audi's businesses are well supported. For them to be well supported, JCEP operates on a very limited budget. And what I can say in our portfolio of JCEP's, 15% of our JCEP portfolio comes from out-ease businesses, 15% and that number is growing. And the way that we support them is through our programs. Through the Office of Economic Development, we was able to create some capital access programs, specifically micro grants and also low interest loans. I believe that also should be extended to our out-ease businesses specifically. So the point that I'm making here today is that I believe that our JSA program is a one-of-a-kind program actually throughout the entire United States and is a program that is well suited to support our small business owners out-east. So I like to, with that being said, I would like to bring up a few of the businesses out-east. A lot of them had to leave because of the time, but I would like to bring up a few of the businesses out east. A lot of them had to leave because of the time. But I would like to invite Shirley and Redden to the mic and then after her, to Lisa Robinson. Thank you and when everybody comes up, just please stay your name and address. Thank you. Good afternoon everyone. My name is Cheryl and Redden. My address is on foul. Most of the time I appear before you, I appear before you as the preservation firm. We are a JCF social enterprise network within our network is Jacksonville Youth Works. And that is here who I'm representing today, we are located 14, 18 Van Buren Street, out east. And it is a 501c3 not for profit. We've had the privilege of receiving funding in 2022, up under the list to help revitalize Dercuville, 2023, under the City of Jacksonville's rise up grant. And this year under Jacksonville Public Education Fund. I make that point to say is that all of the funding received was still not enough to sustain our operations. I heard someone say the public safety aspect of it. Our title slogan is from handguns to nail guns. And so we incorporate including workforce development so that they can have a trade and be out of trouble. What we were able to do was partner with East Coast Striping and Painting and provide a workforce experience to our youth through some J-Sabs. So the J-Sabs serve very instrumental with making sure they were able one to train some of our youth and then two provide some real life experience as well as some job opportunities from some of the youth. I was able to place some of the youth in that program to help paint the Beach Boulevard Clarks office. So if we have some more J-Sabs that are able to come in and assist with rebuilding and painting and the flooring, that would be instrumental. I know that some of the work that was received was through Liv Jacks for for the restore and repair program. So we would like to continue in that partnership, but have some J-Seps who are needing to feel some of their contractual obligations when they're winning these contracts. They're then looking for employees that can do the work. So if we're able to train some of the individuals in that community through rebuilding, through restoring, through repairing, then we can give our J-Seps some past performance so that they're able to bid on some of these stadium deal jobs and then also help bridge that gap. So that's what I wanted to address that. I really strongly believe that the J-S.S. could be instrumental in making sure that historic eastside is restored. All right, thank you. Mr. Granz, do you have anybody else coming up? How many more do you have, sir? Two. One more. Let's be a member of the council. How many more do you have, sir? Two. Two. Let's be mindful of time, too. It'll be Tulsa and then we'll have one more. Yeah. My name is Tulsa Robinson. My address is 1318 Van Buren Street. It's a very touching moment for me right now. My address is 1318 Van Buren Street. It's a very touching moment for me right now. Me coming to here today, I had my speech together. It's no way that I could stand in front of this council and speak my speech as far as the CBA goals. What I'm asking and what I've been asking for East Coast striking and painting and Jaguar legacy, which is my none profit. It's for the people that who is over the CBA. If we could speak on the outside of this councilman, we need to speak together inside this councilman. As far as the money goes, as far as everything goes, each costribleness claim has been totally left out. I think I've been more than just a citizen to come in here to be able to get my point across to you guys and to be able to look some of the same people that has that stand on integrity in this city and won't speak to me when I'm on the east side of that neighborhood. It's like we're in a game. I'm on, I wanna speak, Mr. Selons, I had a problem one time and he addressed it and he sent me to Dr. James Rook, Dr. Rudy. And it's just like, you know, we at war with each other. What we need our e-sales before we can even get to the money, the contract, saying the thing, we need to come together as a union. No matter what you're doing, what you're paying, you're doing whatever you're doing in the community. We need to be a part of that. And what they're saying, they're not standing on it. And before I leave here today, I would like to know that East Coast Striping and Painting can be a part of the historical east side. I've been crying this out for longer than nine long months. Gregor Grant has been, I can't even explain how much he has done for East Coast Striping and Painting, but he cannot give me a check. So what I'm asking the council is not, I'm not trying to be loud or rude or anything. It's for us to come together from Dr. Jameson to Susan Pickett to everybody that's saying that they're doing something for East Coast Striping and Painting, they're not. So that's saying that they're doing something for each school striping and paying, they're not. So that's all I'm asking, we need to come together and find out. You know what I'm saying? How can we sit at the table and make this sit a thrive because it was once thriving before all this here came in. It's the money. We need to sit down and talk and learn each other, love each or find out what the community wrote, not the businesses. You don't see nobody in here. Now, they're the person that's in here that can say they had their house did a remodel. Matter of fact, my father's one on. That's suffering. I was given work from Liffa Jacks. $1,000, not even $1,000, the paint my grandmother's house not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I'm not a loan, I I don't pay my debts to society and I want to be a part of the city with East Coast Striping and Painting and that's all I ask for. Thank you all. Thank you. I will address your concern at the end. I do want to add two more minutes on the clock for the last speaker from Mr. Grant. Two minutes. Thank you. two minutes. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Randi Austin. I'm here representing Williams, Grocery, 1700 East, 28th Street. And we're in the far northeast corner of the empowerment zone, if you would. And I'm here to say that I represent a business that's when you talk about community benefits, we've been benefiting the community for 70 years. And I kind of share Miss Robinson's concern. I've reached out to several other people who had what were spearheading the funds that have been distributed before. And I was told so many different things, oh, there's no more money for businesses. They're committing $650,000 to a business that hasn't served the community in years. Yet, and still, we have a business that's been serving the community for seven years continuously. And I challenge that organization to show anything they've done north of 21st Street. And if it's for the east side, when I grew up, let me give you some history. My mother was born on 28th Street, right down the street from the store, born and raised. My father was born on Ionth Street, two blocks from Florida Avenue, an 800 block, born and raised, prominent family there, my parent, my mother, prominent family out 21st. When we left home as children to go visit our respective grandparents, we were always going out east. So it was never any difference in the north end of out east being different than the south end of out east. So my concern is that when these funds are allocated, that they're allocated equilably to all the businesses. No one has, if a coalition is concerned about bettering the neighborhood as a whole, they should reach out to the businesses in the neighborhood to see what they need, to see what they can do to help those businesses help the community. We have a story, we still to our detriment, give people credit on just their faith, on just faith, because we're on a poor neighborhood and they talk about demographics and statistics. Our neighborhood comprises that unemployment rate, helps comprise that unemployment rate. Yet we're not getting any benefits from the community benefits agreements. That out there. Thank you sir. Time is up. I hear it on here. We all hear it on here and that's actually what we're going to address next so would you like to finish your thoughts very quick? That's just insure that if this goes forward that there are plans put in place to make sure that the structure is equitable within the establishment that you set up to distribute the funds. There has to be some oversight because it's not being done equitably. Thank you. All right. I don't have any members on the queue, but I do have my thoughts and my concerns on this part. And this is why I wanted to have Mr. Grant appear to present on the economic development portion of things because when I toward the east side, my biggest thing was we have to make sure that we provide funding for those businesses in the east side, whether they are part of the JSA program or not. I want the dollars to be recirculating within the community. And as you heard today, some members feel that they're being left out even though they live in the community. When I asked the questions about how many boards should we create two or one, even if we had an East Side board, we're clearly still having an issue before this board is created that some members of the community are not Being able to get these dollars these funds to do the work and other entities outside of the community are getting these dollars Some members on I even receive funding at all period. So I definitely want to make sure that Not only J-seps, which I think you Mr. Grand said there were 15% of the J-Seps within the J-Seps or live in the Eastside, but other local businesses also benefit from this. So how can we ensure that whether we create an Eastside board or a master board that these dollars will stay within the Eastside? And if so, I would like to see a majority of the dollars stay within the Eastside. And we're looking at $30 million, is that going to be 50% of it? Staying within the East Side is 10%. Whatever the case is, I know we're not here to determine that today, but I just wanna make sure that we protect the East Side at all costs. So can anybody answer that to make me feel better about the direction that we're gonna head into? Whether it's Darnell or Mr. Smith? Sorry, Darnell, I'm Mr. Grant. I'm sorry, they're not over to Grant. And I want to make certain I'm answering your question there. Your concern is making certain that of the 30 million that it's remaining in focused on out east if we do a master board. My concern is on the east side, and that's the important of this presentation that you had here, you had economic development, workforce housing and homelessness, right? Yes, sir. The economic development portion of things that says support area small businesses, create continuous commercial corridor and all that. support area small businesses, create continuous commercial corridor and all that. Are you going to hire local e-ciders to do the work or are you going to look at outside companies to do the work in the e-side? I know that there are some specialties that are not within the e-side, so I get that part. But for the majority of the work, how will we determine that that's going to stay within the e-side? majority of the work, how will we determine that that's going to stay within the East side? Yeah. I think one of the speakers earlier made it clear that with the number of the dollars that we've used, you know, with certain organizations, they've done a really good job of making certain that the money focused on East side in that regarding. So I think that has to be the charge of the board to make that happen. And I think if we do, I think that's exactly how it'll play out. That's the beauty of being able to set up these boards to perform the way we want them to by dictating exactly what we intend and what we expect in that regard. Thank you. I know Miss Robinson, who spoke earlier, she stated her concerns. And I would just love that whenever we do create this board or these boards, whatever we decide to do, that the board gets the input from the community. It's not just a board creating these ideas out of nowhere that they too have public hearings and notices that way the community could come in and address their concerns as well as she stated. All right. Thank you. I do have two speakers on the queue. It will be Mr. Producial first. Thank you, Chair. And it was just kind of to, you know, with Mr. Grant's presentation over here. So I want to make sure that folks do understand that there is a historic Eastside Business Council and that, you know, East Ciders do have an entity that exists right now to kind of fight for the local businesses and we need to make sure that we are also empowering them and make sure that that's well known for people to go to for not only assistance but to also kind of like create a little regional chamber of Commerce, if you will, for the Audi's neighborhood. So if you have any questions about that, any of the presenters here, definitely have connections to the Business Council. I know that I do as well. It's a great way to kind of make sure that you do sort of keep things in the family to make sure that you are supporting other Audi's businesses, you know, and kind of helping their initiatives to make sure that we're seeing really cool progress. We've also got Main Street, which has now been implemented out there at East. So that's another group that is doing great work. Mainly on the A-Fillup Randolph corridor, but from the point that we've heard speakers say, we do wanna make sure that all businesses within the Eastside neighborhood are feeling heard and getting attention they deserve. So just kinda make sure that's put out there. Thank you, Mr. Gay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. If Director Grant, if you could come back up a minute, few comments and observations with the construction that's going to be going on at the stadium. Have you or have you all gave it any thought what I've seen over in past stadium construction projects? There's going to be a lot of workers in the stadium working of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the construction workers throughout the day. Now where your workers don't leave the site, they're able to eat throughout the day. And the Eastside businesses would be able to benefit from those opportunities there, because the stadium's already got your restaurants and so forth already there, that they can really capitalize on that. And it's same thing as well as we do in workforce development, will your workers need proper work and attire to be there? So there's opportunity for to set up in the stadium, a store from the local east side to where they can come in and manage that and sell all the PPE that's needed for. And it just, I'd like to see if y'all can bridge that with the construction team there to be able to bring these businesses in there and give them the first opportunity for all these needs of the stadium. And then I guess if we don't have a J-SAP or don't have an E-SIE, we can look at a second tier would be a J-SEP to come in and fill these needs. I don't know if you all have had any of these discussions. Through the chair to Councilman Gay. Yes, we actually have. I've been working with some of the leadership team over at the stadium, impact and some of the others. And exactly how you described it is what we're working on currently. Okay, thank you. Great idea, Mr. Gay. Thank you, Mr. Grappler, the presentation and the businesses that came up. I will now open up the floor for discussion. If anybody else has any questions or concerns at this point. if anybody else has any questions or concerns at this point. Thank you, Chair. Just kind of want to reiterate, it seemed like from some of the discussions that we were having here, depending on what the board's looked like, I just think that we should kind of charge the coalition to sort of give us their input of what the board looks like and for the East Side section and what their sort of three three year plane is going to look like moving forward. I think one of their slides was supposed to kind of speak to that, but like let's get a more detailed version of that. Let's have them meet with kind of some of the members of this body, whether it be independently and just sort of really figure out what it could look like that we all agree with. And that way we kind of settle the East Side portion a little bit early while we kind of figure out the rest of this. And I just think let's get them to start working on that hardcore between now and next week. Great idea. So I think that for the sake of next week's meeting or I guess in two weeks from now, we could probably do, we could open up with the business and talk on the eSide maybe for like the first 20 minutes of the meeting just to kind of wrap it up if possible. But yeah, all right, so I'm going to conclude the meeting but before we do we do have four public comment cards or five of them actually and I'm going to give three minutes per card. So starting out with Ms. Pierre, Rose Pierre first. Please state your name and address for the record. Following will be Eunice Barnum just to get in the queue. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Rose Pierre. Adress is 1318. Thank you. I'm going to ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask you to come in and ask just to get in the queue. Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Rose Pierre. address is 1318 Van Buren Street. As the COO of East Coast, Stripe and Impaining, I understand the significance of the CBA agreement for the community and out east. Councilman Palusso, I understand that you don't want to recreate the board. You know, but in my opinion, I believe it is wise to either recreate the board, a board that the community has voted and agreed on, or if the city council controls the funding and the direction the money is going to be flowing. This approach will ensure transparency and accountability. While there are several organizations that are in support of revitalization, workforce development, affordable housing, out east many of these organizations have not delivered on a lot of the promises. Allowing a single organization to manage these funds would be an extremely bad idea. Therefore, it's crucial for the City Council to ensure that the funds are distribute fairly. Gregory Grant has demonstrated his capability to significantly impact the city in a positive way. Despite the numerous amount of organizations saying that they you know, they've done a lot. The community, if you go out into the community, and you hear everyone in the community, not just the people that are being brought to you, but if I advise you all to just go out in the community yourself, find business owners, people out in the community, and just ask questions. Not people that I invite you to speak to or not people that other people invite you to speak to. Find out on your own the truth. I think together, I think together, the CBA, I think together, I think together, the CBA can be a great thing and it can be something that transforms the East side but it has to be something that we all all do together and it can't just be again just one organization it has to be something that we all do together so that it can all be spread across the table, even in fair where the community is actually thriving how it should. Jacksonville has the potential to be so beautiful and so great. But again, if we come together as one, all the changes that we're asking for to be done can be done. But we have to ensure that everything's done correctly. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Eunice Barnum. Followed by Nageeb Sherry. Good evening, Eunice Barnum, and my address is on file. I come because I remember when it was bringing the Jaguars here. They talked about they were going to put together these community town centers. And so much of the money from the Jaguars were glued to these different communities did not happen. And you all are the bold city of the South. Go ahead with your bold self and set the example. Show the rest of the world how you do it. You come up with an idea, you had it all planned to build a billion dollar plus stadium. And you were trying to figure out how to spend 150 million. Huh? If you knew how to spend billions, I certainly hope you know how to spend 150 million. And if you're going to build this beautiful stadium, come on. Let's build a beautiful community that's next door, isn't it the same facility? Come on, why not? Let's do it Jacksonville. Give the people what they need. Give them what they've been, they've pried for years. You're gonna come and build a brand new stadium. And then you gotta go through what you go through to get there, build a community up. They deserve it. They have decided to give them the money, give them the money. Even if you have to do it in increments. You give a few dollars, you make sure they do right by those. Then when they complete that, you give them some more to finish the second half. When they finish that, it correctly then you do the third. Whatever you've got to do, just do it. Thank you. Thank you. Najijib Sherry. Thank you. Followed by Tonya Watts. Good evening. Thank you for having me today. Again, my name is Najiba. Sureyfe. I'm the president and CEO of I Love Transportation. We just moved our headquarters here to Jacksonville on the east side. We just got a facility over that way and some of the funding that will help us to continue be a part of the community and reach out to the community is training. We are hiring right now and I hear there is a huge unemployment rate over on Eastside and that area is where we want to actually do a lot of hiring. We not too long ago do a lot of hiring. We not too long ago, connect with Goodwill, and we had 85 people that turned up to our actually hiring event, and we just hired 16. A lot of them that came, needs a lot of training up, a lot of new skills, and a new acquiring of what we need to do. What we do here, our business is in transportation. So we need people bodies. We move people, places and things. So being in that area, we write there by the Jats, the Teleran, the port, and write out 95. So some of the funders that will help will be training, invest them back in our community, and reach out to the Latino community we hear in that area for hiring purposes. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Halden, yes, I'm just here. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Ma'am, the gentleman you're about to walk by Ed Randolph Ed what you raise your hand real quick Ed King connects you with career force career source Northeast Florida and potentially state funds for training as a newly Relocated business to the city and the east side so he's a guy to talk to you. Thank you Thank you for that time your watts All right next and last we'll have Michele Ron. Good afternoon, Michelle Moran. My address is with Liff Jackson at 40 East Adams Street and I'm the board chair. Also helping to support the together east side coalition. So a couple of things. First of all, thank you for coming back and working through the CBA. Really appreciate it. Appreciate so many of you have been out into the community and talking to folks has been requested. And for the private meetings outside of these sessions and many conversations to make sure that we're getting to the best place possible. Couple things I just wanted to mention. One is I just want to underscore the importance of the city dollars and as it relates to the whole CVA. And as we started out talking about what makes a CVA or any investment in a community successful, is the things that Daniel Nunn talked about that don't make it successful underfunding or spreading it too thin. And so the Jaguar's money is already planned to be across the term of the 30 years. So we do need to make sure that we can deliver on some of the promises that there'll be upfront funding. And I know that you're contemplating that. I just want as formally a united way and as a member of the board, we've been able to do a lot at lift jacks in the community because we've had been able to leverage city money with private money. And this is a huge thing. We've done way more in my experience over 30 years in this area here in the east side. The work that has happened in the short period of time, I don't know if you've heard, we've acquired controlling interest in two. We've acquired two multi-family housing units as well as helped Franklin Arms get transferred which for so many years that has been a huge problem in the neighborhood and source of crime has been worried about earlier and that has been only possible through having both the public and private dollars that we've been able to leverage and in the short period of time it is incredible how fast lift jacks in the community of the other Eastside Coalition has been able to get some of this work done. That is not normal. The space that this has happened already is not normal and it speaks to the partners at the table and the willingness and that this money can really help us continue to escalate how fast we've been able to make change. I also urge you just to consider the benefits of a TIFF tax increment financing. It is an awesome tool specifically for urban infill areas that I think once you learn more about it, I feel like there's some alarmist things brought up here. I appreciate being sensitive about how things impact the general revenue, but I really would like, and hopefully we can make time for this more in-depth conversation about how that is a really creative way to finance under funded neighborhoods. And I don't think we should look at it as a scarcity approach where it's taking away from general revenue. There was almost no revenue from commercial properties in this current community, and we want to change that. Thank you. Thank you for that. I'll open it up one more time for committee members if you have any last remarks and concerns. All right, thank you. All right, so we are going to conclude today's meeting just to do a little quick wrap up. We obviously need to identify the 30 years Jaguar's dollars. Obviously we know that it's going to be split over 30 years, but how and where? That's one of the questions. The board's one or two boards. The fact that we're doing this concurrent with the current budget at hand, we're going to identify dollars to see, because we have a lot of concerns for my colleagues as to are we over funding or not. We have $94 million right now to work with and how and when would those funds get funded? So a lot of action items that we need to take up right now. So next meeting will be also another educational meeting. Meeting three and four will be actually most of the work being concluded. But the next meeting, like I said, will be mainly based off of the kind of wide strategic focus with workforce development and affordable housing as well as homeless and its end parks. So thank you all for coming today and joining us and if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to email us and see you next meeting, meeting adjourned.