Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Jacksonville Rules Committee. The wreck reflect today is Monday, June 3rd, 2 o'clock on the dot and we will start with introductions to the left, the Honorable. Afternoon, you all, Bill Delaney with the Mayor's Office. Calling Hamsey, Council Research. Carla Lopez, Office of General Counsel. Chris Decarer, her Council Auditor's Office. Calling Hampsy Council Research. Carla Lopera Office of General Counsel. Her stick here. Her Council Auditor's Office. Good afternoon, Chris Miller at large group five city council. Good afternoon, Ken Amar city council district one. Randy White district 12. Terrence Freeman at large group one. Sorry about that Michael Michael. District six. Good afternoon. Rockmont Johnson district 14. Joe Carlucci district five. And we have no visitors today. I like having guests. All right. So we're going to start with the presentation from Miss Sidman and then after that we will go into where's the name on this old. Yeah, we're going to go to a public comment and then after public comment we will go through our appointments and then we have the supervisor of elections here, Mr. Holland, who missed last time, so we're gonna make sure we take him up first and then we'll take the rest of the bills up in order to fair by is okay with that. Ms. Sidman, the floor is yours. Thank you, through the chair, Peggy Sidman, Council Director. So, President Salem couldn't be with you today and his absence. He asked me to share with you the schedule for this week in regard to the stadium agreements that you received last Friday and also the public hearing. So legislative services sent out notices for workshops to take place Wednesday, June 5th from 10 to 4 and Thursday, June 6th from 1 to 4 here in Council Chambers. Two weeks from today. Monday, June 17th at 5 o'clock. There'll be a special Council meeting. There'll be held here in Council Chambers. For the purpose of holding a public hearing on the Jaguar Stadium legislation, which is anticipated to be filed and introduced. June 11th, that would be your next council meeting. So I just wanted to share that with you. He will be back tomorrow. And he also wanted me to share with you that this will be provided enough time for the auditors to get their information, for the council members to get their information, and if the bill isn't filed, then you're not gonna have the public hearing. If something doesn't happen along the way, then there'll be different things. That's why you don't have a schedule all in front of you right now. So workshops this Wednesday and Thursday, and then the public hearing two weeks from today at five o'clock. So I want to make sure I understand that so workshops June 5th and 6th, 10am, AM the 4pm, 1pm, the 4pm, 1pm, the 6th. The special council meeting is going to be on the 17th. Is that what I already say? And on that date we're going to look to draft or complete the legislation. So that we anticipate that the bill will be filed on June 11th with an introduction on June 11th, the Council Day, and then your public hearing on that bill will be Monday, June 17th at 5 o'clock. That will allow the Council to hear from the public. I got you. So public hearing on that date. All right to hear from the public. I got you so public hearing on that. They already Councilmember Johnson. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the Chair to Ms. Sidman. If there are things that are, because the workshop is more presentation or is it a working workshop where there may be additions or any of that stuff. Will that be a possibility? Or will all of those things be added post workshop through the proper committee process? So it's my understanding and I haven't seen the schedule but the preliminary schedule ideas is that you'll have a presentation both from the Jaguars, Mike Weinstein, and then also from the auditors, and then there'll be questions and answers provided to the council members. So if you have questions and so on, you could bring it at that point in time. Have I answered your question? Not really through the chair of the amendment, with all due respect, it's not you. It just kind of seems superfluous, superfluous to have this process, have the workshop to be explained something that has been explained to us at Nazim through presentation, but it doesn't really augment what is being presented to us. And so that's why I just, I don't know, it seems incongruent to have yet another workshop when we still are going to have to go in and make these additions to the bills. There's just a question. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Simmons. He's just a messenger and by the way, that was four SAT words well done. Council President Desinick, your right hand. Thank you, Chair. Peggy, just to make sure the fifth, sixth, and seventh thing, because I still have days to seventh. And the whole next week, we can take all of that off our calendar. Except there's three days, correct? No, sir. I just was not authorized. I suppose to talk about what was going to happen next week until the bill got filed. So I do think that there will be additional days next week after the bill gets filed. Provided that the bill is filed. Okay, thank you. Very seldom am I at a loss for words, but that was a lot with a little said. And I just have an absolutely crazy schedule these next two weeks. So the ambiguity is a bit worrisome for me right now because I don't want to miss anything especially if they're going to come to a conclusion of legislation and all of those things. I got to figure out the real world that pays my bills for my five kids and then figure out this big issue for our city and I don't know how we're going to come to a place that I know when I need to cancel being in Port Charlotte working to be here to vote and I'm looking left and right. Miss Hampstead, do you have any suggestions? I'm joking, don't say anything. You're good. All right, thank you so much. All right, we just made light of them. Pretty heavy lift. And not to forget about the installation, which is June 20th. There's an installation, huh? All right. 5.30 in this chamber, June 20th. Thank you. All right, so that takes us to, all right, we'll go through our agenda real quickly. Page one. Item number one is deferred, 2020-0307. Item two, 2020 is up for action, 2020-04-0294. Item number three, so men move, 2020-04-325. Item four is for action, 2020-04-0332. the . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the item 7 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 4 3 4 3 0379. We have appointments item 11. 2024, 0381. Item 12, 2020, 4, 0382. Item 13, 2020, 4, 0383. Item 14, 2020, 4, there it is. 202424, 0384 item 15, 2024, 0385. Item 16, it doesn't have to appear, but it's for action, 2024, 0386. Item 17, we have an amendment, so there's a men move, 2024, 0387. Item 18, 2024, 0388. Item 19, the men move, 2024, 0, 3, 8, 7, item 18, 20, 24, 0, 3, 8, 8, item 19, submit move, 20, 24, 0, 3, 9, 4, item 20, it is deferred, and then the following items are seconded. 21, 4, 22, 24, 4, 22, 4, 25, and 4, 28, item 24 is an emergency admin move and we'll be taking that up right after the appointments. Item 25 through 20 to 34 will be seconded and that's items 2024 0 4 3 7 4 3 8 4 4 0 4 4 1 4 4 2 4 4 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 6 4 4 7 uh next action item is item 35 2020 4 4 4 9 item 36 is for action twenty twenty four zero four five zero and the last one item thirty seven will be seconded a twenty twenty four zero four five one that takes us through our agenda. I see no one in the queue and any questions on that. We will open up the floor for public comment and I believe we have Mr. Nooning on the items on our agenda today that were. I am John philanthropic resiliency Nooning. Ocho Trasinko says Basque Mroad, Jacksonville, Florida, 32216. Y'all touch on 2024-0325, 2024-0294 agenda item 621 and 16. We will start with 2020-204-0294 agenda item 621 and 16. We will start with 2020-0371, some travel stuff. I will be ordering off the red lobster menu. For breakfast, we will all have the surf and turf. For breakfast, we will follow that up with a glass of Florida orange juice the double umbrellas and that is called the screw pair. Now we will go to the agenda item 3, 2020 4, 0, 3, 2, 5. I've got to say this. I am wearing my Todd Rubin shirt. I'm Tonya, you know, get the motion picture movies going. Now this is appropriating 200,000 in fund balance. Now this is, you know is from the Environmental Protection Board. Now let me just say something, I mean this is such redundancy, it's unbelievable. You know, you got J-E-A, we got the resiliency stuff. And you know, our place where you know, we're on Pottsburg Creek with two septic tanks. You know, 200 grand, this is, you're gonna be doing this for two years. And let me just say, I'm down to a minute 18. 2009, 442 is the Artificial Refund Established by Ordinance. When you're looking at clawbacks, think of all the septic tank companies in the state of Florida. 200 grand, PPP, public private partnership. Well, here we got P and Poo Pottsburg. I mean, it's a cluster and you could have the naming rights and I'll tell you something, our place hits every box and then something. You talk about tourism, you know, visit Jacksonville today. You know, if you want to have, you know, the University of Florida, you know, septic tank capital, classroom, bring it. And we could have a reimbursement on this so fast. We'd make your head spin We can make your head spin. Seriously. Now I'm down to 25 seconds. You know, again, think of attaching an amendment. You know that philanthropic stuff. You know that comes with naming rights. And this is the state of Florida. We got J.E.A., River Accord, a billion dollars. I'll be going to that meeting very shortly. We have so many potential spots for this. Thank you, Mr. Doody. Well, thank you for listening. Well, I'm my pleasure. And enjoy your breakfast. It's lunch today. So we now will go to our appointments if you can turn to item 11. It's on page 6. Item 2024, 0381. Got a motion in a second. This is for Miss Susan and a ticker to be a member of the Public Service Grant Council. Come on down if you don't mind just sharing a little bit about yourself. Good afternoon, Council Member Freeman and all of the other Council members and esteemed members of this group. I'm primarily here to answer questions. I just like you to know a little bit about me. I reside in Council Member Boilins District. I moved here about a house three years ago and moved down here from New York City. I have spent my career in either corporate finance or consulting and working on behalf of nonprofits. I have a extensive volunteer resume of working with many nonprofits. I also have a certificate in evaluation of nonprofits and of an MBA, which I use in my work with nonprofits to help sustain their grant proposals as well as to implement them effectively and report appropriately. I have held that job for a major organization in New York City, which received a grant from another major nonprofit in New York City. I'm excited about the idea of working in this area and volunteering my time and expertise. I'm very committed to working to help allocate dollars that will benefit members of our community in all wherever they live, in all of our districts, in all of our types of communities. This past year, I was a member of the constituency and outreach committee of the transition process for our new mayor, then new mayor, and I was very proud to be part of the interfaith relations subcommittee. I also did work with the marginalized communities as well as higher education and youth. I have experience working directly in service of all of those. My first job was actually for government in a gin, gin shelter. Juvenile is a need of supervision in New Jersey where I lived. And I'm here to answer any questions you might have and I'm excited to hopefully move forward. Thank you so much for that, for sharing Councilmember Boilin. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the opportunity to share. First of all, my apologies for not connecting with you. I saw your resume and I was floored already, so I'm sure we're good to find it. I commend you on your wisdom for living in Mandarin, too, so thank you. Oh, thank you. Yes. Do you have any sense? I suspect you do already based some of the work you've done through the transitional process, the role and the responsibility of the PSG. Can you speak to that briefly if you could? It's a very daunting task. That's why I raised the question. Yes. As I understand it, although of course I'm really excited to learn more, and I'm already trying, I think we already have actually, I'm on the agenda to come to meetings in the next week. I understand it to be the process of taking dollars that have been allocated to be funding grants. The grant proposal cycle is through the year. We will be receiving those grants shortly. I believe it's July 1. They've request proposals have already gone out. I understand I will be learning how to use the rubric, the scoring system. I've already written rubrics and educated my clients on using rubrics, parsing language. I will read very carefully the way in which all of the pillars, that's my term, not yours, but all of the priorities that are in the agenda, that are in the mandate for the Public Service Grants Council, if there are ones that are new this year that can happen sometimes. So I'll look at last year's, who got money, how are they scored, as well as what is being asked to be prioritized for this year. I will work with and collaborate with other members of the Public Service Grant Council. And wherever helpful, I will approach those who are council members in the districts to be affected. Because sometimes it does get narrow and local. Think global act local and I will ask how do you think this will benefit your residents as well as asking leaders who will be directly affected and who oversee those organizations? Well, no reflection on the work of the PSG, but I think the experience you bring to the table might be very helpful too, as they take a look at how they operate going forward. Thank you for your talk. Thank you. And I do look forward to speaking with you about what our district needs. Thank you. Thank you so much and your passion is just oozing out. So thank you. Huge asset to our city. And if you don't mind, I may have my daughter talk to you because she wants to go to Davidson. Oh, wow. She's going into her, that's what I said. Right? We have great schools here, but some reason Davidson's on her mind. So, I think- Before we leave, I just want to shout out, I am also the mother of a clergy person in Mandarin and the mother-in-law of another clergy person in Mandarin. So I'm also very already, and that's why we chose to live around the corner from our grandchildren. I'm very committed to the children of our community. I have three who live and go to school in our neighborhood, and I'm so committed to the children of our community. I have three who live and go to school in our neighborhood, and I'm so excited to be able to think about their long-term benefit as well as the trajectory for all of our children youth adults. And thank you for this opportunity. Thank you so much, saying no one else in the queue. It's been moving properly, seconded. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Thank you. Thank you. Seven years, zero nays. the bill. Please open the ballot and the court to vote. Thank you. Thank you. Seven, yay, zero, nays. Very action as you've approved 2024-0381. Item 12, 2024-0382. Got a motion in a second. On the bill, this is a mayor's appointment for a Sheldonil Gibbs as the chief of engineering and construction management division for public works. Mr. Gibbs, if you don't mind coming down. Good morning. Good afternoon. How are you doing? Council, chair members. I'm going to be back. Good morning. Good afternoon. How are you doing? Chair and members. As she mentioned, I'm kind of here just to answer questions about myself that you may have, but also give you a little bit of background about me. I've had an opportunity to meet with a few of you. So I'll see you around in different capacities, but I've been in Jacksonville since 1997. June, December of 1997, went to Florida and in Maintell, Hasse came here as a bridge designer. After that, I moved away a couple times, I worked on different projects throughout the southeast and up in Boston and Puerto Rico. So kind of got a pretty broad level of experience on design, construction, historic structures, things like that. I moved back here, worked in the private sector for quite a bit, and through some relationships that I've had for many, many years, and had the opportunity to meet with past chiefs and public works directors had a chance to meet director's sickler prior to this assignment for this opportunity. And I've been here for about a month now and I've enjoyed every single day of it. So I'm excited to be able to do something that allows for me to be a part of the development of this fantastic city. So I'm excited for the opportunity and I'll be happy to answer any questions. I'll bring it back to the committee. Any questions? All right, well I will say I grew up on that campus, both of my parents are famier grads, so many of my memories sleeping up and during football games at the stadium. Yes. With that said, please open up the ballot and record your vote. Seven yay zero nays. The actions you're approved 2020 4-0-3-8-2. Texas the item 13 2020 4-0-3-8-3. The appointment of Greg Ealy, as a member of the Jackson Police and Fire Pinch of Fund, financial investment and advisory committee. Good afternoon committee. My name's Greg Ealy. I'm also a Florida NM graduate School of Business and Industry. I'm being reported to the Investment Committee Board for the Fire and Pension Fire Police and Fire Pension Fund. I have 30 years of experience in institutional investing as well as consumer investing, ran my own broker dealer, and currently I'm in consulting business. Director Johnson invited me to join his board. I own broker dealer and currently I'm in consulting business. Director Johnson invited me to join his board. He thought I'd be a good asset to it. And I open myself up to any questions you have. We'll bring it back to the committee. Councilmember Johnson, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to go to the other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other other I'm a member of cap apple sire. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's good. That's there you go. Cap apple sire for turning the incorporated. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm not the oldest, but can I get a motion in a second, please? All right, so we have a motion in a second. Thank you so much, Missy. Seeing no one else in the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you for your time. 7-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8-0-8 Haley Spring. As a member of the Context Census Streets Standards Committee. Hello. Good afternoon, council members. I appreciate the opportunity to speak today. I wanted to just give a little overview of who I am. I am from Jacksonville. I grew up in the Fort Caroline area and I currently live in Springfield. I am also currently getting my masters in public administration at University of North Florida. Prior to that, I attended my undergrad in DC and I had the chance to live in an extremely walkable city. And that experience just ignited in me a passion for mobility and transportation policy and help me open my eyes to what challenges we have here in Jacksonville. It taught me that our built environment directly affects our quality of life and that local government is where this impact is felt the most. It is important that we continue to upgrade our built environment and street standards and ensure that we are considering the health and safety of all road users in our designs, not just drivers. As someone with experience in local government and policy development, I'm eager to unite my knowledge and passions to develop better standards for our city's mobility environment. I really appreciate the chance to serve on the context sensitive street standards committee and I am happy to answer any questions. Thank you so much for that. Bring it back to the body. Committee. We have a motion. We have a second. Council member Boehlen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair, through the Chair. To Miss Brink, you and I had great conversation the other day. I wanted to share with my colleagues we approved Laura rushing a couple weeks ago. And I think she shares the same exuberance and enthusiasm and experience and education that you do to this committee. So I really, really excited to have these two special folks on this particular committee. I'm glad to support your nomination. Thank you. Thank you so much. And thank you for taking the time to answer my questions as well. And one of your responses just stood out to me on the question of how do you plan to collaborate with other board and commission members and community stakeholders to achieve desired outcomes and your response. We all want the same thing better save for more efficient standards for our streets and communities. As long as the board's culture is one of mutual respect and openness, then we can share differing ideas and work together to identify, compromise and move the work forward. Within the balance of sunshine law, I love that last part. So you're definitely well aware of what you're getting into. So thank you so much for that. Seeing no one else in the queue, please open the ballot. Record your vote. BELL RINGS 7, yay, zero, nays. Thank you. All right, actions you've approved, 2024, 0384. That takes us to item 15, 2024, 0385. Got a motion in a second on the bill. This is an appointment of Mr. John, and here we go. Gizlison. Am I close for housing and for me? You're good at first to say that, but thank you. You're good. You're good. Yeah. So good afternoon, thank you guys so much for your time. Name is John Gislesson. So close. Pretty close, pretty close. It's better than what I've gotten before. So a little bit about myself, I moved here to Jacksonville in 2011 to get a school at Jacksonville University. And after graduating in 2015, just kind of fell in love with the city and decided to stay. So, got a job with residential home builder in town, DR Horton, and I've been there for nine years in December. And even though I work for a for-profit developer, affordable housing is something that I'm actually really passionate about, I think that there's some unique things that we have an opportunity to do in the city to partner with public and private partnerships to help kind of help bring more affordable housing to town. And I know that this board is very important. So appreciate your time and hear for any questions you guys may have. Thank you so much and this is for the Jacksonville Housing and Community Development Commission. Back to the body, to the committee. Any questions? All right, seeing none. Please open the ballot and record your vote. 7.008. 780 nays by actions you've approved 2024 0385. Takes us to item 16 of 2024 0386. Got a motion in a second. The bill this is a reappointment of Mr. Raymond Day. As being a reappointment of Mr. Raymond Day. Being a reappointment, he does not need to be here, so are there any concerns or questions that are going to be brought up? Okay, thank you so much. Open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yeas zero nays. Are you actions you've approved, 2040386? And that was for the planning advisory committee southeastern district number 17 item 2024 0387 got a motion and a second on the amendment can someone please explain the amendment through the chair to the committee the amendment will just correct the term from a first full term to a partial term. You know when an acute on favor of the amendment say aye. Those opposed at the same right. The amendment carries. And motion is second on the bill as amended. Mr. Orender, you have the mic. Thank you. First of all, it's a pleasure to be here. I've served the city before. Several councils, TDC, the mayor asked me to serve on the Comcast. There was a financial settlement with Comcast years ago, and he asked me to serve on that committee to actually give out grants annually. I've done several things, and I enjoy that. I enjoy serving the city. I was born and raised in Tampa. I moved up here. I actually always say I chased a Bruno up here and stayed. And I love this city and my wife, I frankly could have lived anywhere that we wanted to go. And but every time I drive over the bridge, going out to Jack's Beach, there's something that just, I'm home. It's almost like the angels are singing, so I love it here. I've always thought we were blessed to have our own utility. I've seen this after hurricanes, how quickly those ladies and gentlemen respond and get us back up. Our power cost are amongst the cheapest and certainly in the southeast. And I hope it stays that way. I would do everything I could to help it, help to JEEA to make sure that we keep a good balance budget. We're efficient that we produce great income for the city so that the city can continue to thrive and hopefully help with plans to get us ahead of a great growth curve. I just read yesterday, Jacksonville is in the top seven cities of people moving into. Only one city in our state they're moving out of. That was Miami, everybody else is coming in. So it's good for us, but the JEA has to have to be prepared for that. So it's been my pleasure to serve. I've looked at the dates of the upcoming meetings. I'm good with the exception of one which is Father's Day Friday on Father's Day weekend. I'm taking my boys away so I won't be there for that. But anyway but I'm ready to serve if it's your pleasure. Thank you. We'll bring you back to the committee in the questions. Council Member Amaro, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Orender, thank you for your ability to step up and serve. Out of curiosity, I just wanted some explanation as to partial term. Through the chair, I guess that's to General Counsel, or whoever. Through the chair to Council Member Amaro. So generally, a partial term is let when they will be, when the appointee will be serving less than half of the remainder of a term. and half of the remainder of a term. Count? Is that good, Council Member Marrow? Council Member Boenley recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. My memory serves me correctly as the liaison. I think you're replacing or filling the term left by Ms. Landahan, I believe. But I appreciate all the extended conversation as liaison for J.E.A. and hopefully to continue in that role. We have a long talk about the responsibility and the challenges of being a member of the board of J.E.A. And I have all kinds of confidence and your ability to speak up and speak out as you need necessary, based upon past experience. I look forward to working with you. Thank you. Thank you. Luzamarty was a big loss for this board, but I have all the confidence that you're going to far surpass our expectations. So thank you so much for coming. With that being said, please open the ballot and record your vote. Thank you. 7.8, 0.8. By actions you've approved, 22 0, 38, seven as amended. Takes us to item 18, 20, 24, 0, 38, eight. Got a motion in a second on the bill. This is for appointment of Patrick Alden Howell for the Good old tree commission. for the Good old tree commission. Patrick Aldenow, thank you council members for allowing me to speak. Just a quick background of the fifth generation Jacksonville native, I live in Abendale, fifth generation Abendale, and I saw this position open up and I've been waiting for the opportunity to serve Jacksonville civically and've been waiting for the opportunity to serve Jackson will civically and this seemed to be the place to start so happy to answer any questions and thank you for this opportunity to be here before you. I will bring it back to the committee any any questions? All righty so you said you've been waiting for an opportunity to serve on the tree committee. Is that what I heard? To serve Jacksonville. Not the right. That's phenomenal. All right. Councilmember Miller, you're recognized. Thank you. Through the chair, Mr. Howell. If you wouldn't mind, just give us a little bit about your background that you believe helps qualify you to represent us on the tree commission. Sure, thank you. Well, again, being a fifth generation Jackson will native I believe that the trees are one of our greatest assets just like the ocean and the river, more of our natural assets. My experience would be, well, one I am a real estate developer. So I have, I feel like I see it from both sides, both as a citizen and a private business who's in the industry of paying into this fund. So I feel like I see it from both angles, and I think that would serve the commission well. Experience to be on this particular commission. I work with Dark Sky International, which is an environmental group that focuses on the effects of artificial light on human health, ecological health, the aesthetic effects of artificial light. And so I think it comes back to the aesthetics of trees and light on the city for again a gamut of from human health to environmental health and again the aesthetics of a town whether it's Jackson anywhere so that's my background from the environmental perspective and private sector perspective. Through the chair, thank you. I just wanted to put that on the record. I think there are a lot of people don't know that part of your background. So I just wanted to bring that up and also to thank you for stepping forward. This position has been open for a while and I'm the representative from the Council to the Shreed Commission. So I'm very confident given your background, your experience and your desire to serve, you will serve us well in that capacity. That's all I have to share. Thank you so much and somewhere in City Hall, a former Council member, John Cressy, being he's watching and smiling right now, the Shreed Commission. All right, you've been moved and properly seconded. Please open the ballot and properly seconded. Please open the ballot and record to vote. 6-8-0-nays. By actions you've approved, 224-0388. That takes us to page 12 item 24. So emergency, 2424 0, 4, 3, 4. We've got a motion in second on the emergency. Can someone please explain the emergency? Yes, through the chair to the committee. The supervisor of elections has requested emergency action just in order to get notice out to affected voters as soon as possible. Signalling a cue all in favor emergency say aye those both have the same right emergency carries. Get a motion in second on the amendment because someone please explain the amendment. Through the chair to the committee the amendment marked on your agenda reflects what was approved this morning in NCSPHS, which is to also within the bill include a temporary change in location for precinct 307 from Glen Kern and Golfing Country Club to Chets Creek Church. We'll also correct some skirmners' errors within the bill and attach her revised exhibit one, which is a notice of location change to include the temporary change for precinct 307 and also reflect that the change for precinct 307 and also reflect that the change for precinct 802 is a permanent change. Thank you. Seeing no one in the queue all in favor of the amendment say aye those opposed to the same right the amendment carries. Motion is second on the bill as emergency as amended. Mr. Holland the honorablearies. The motion is second on the bill as emergency as amended. Mr. Holland, the honorable Holland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, these are two changes. One is a permanent change in precinct 802. Councilman Gaffney, we have worked with him. This is actually his precinct and he's good with the change. It's a location that we'd been using for years, but they wanted to stop being a polling location so we found a better location within the same pre-sanked. That's 802. And on the day of 307 in Councilman Lennon's district, that is a temporary change. They are remodeling their country club where we in the clubhouse where we typically have the precinct and so we're going over to Chats Creek which is currently a precinct, do a dual precinct and then in 2026 we will come back to the Glencernen golf and country club. Thank you seeing no one else in the queue. Questions, Councilman Rob and Johnson you're recognized. Just curious, Mr. Chair, through the Chair, to the supervisor, Holland, where was, and I don't see it here, where was 802, and where is 802? 807, I'm sorry, which one? 802, 802, that's what I thought, okay, 802. 802 is the one for Glenconn. Yeah, through the chair, it was a garden city Okay. 8.2. 8.2. That's what I thought. Okay. 8.2 is the one for Glen Connor. Yeah. Through the chair. It was a Garden City Methodist church on Don Avedin. Okay. So it'll be going to Garden View Baptist church on Armstale Road. Right around the corner. Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Seeing no one else on the queue, please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven yeas zero nays. The actions you've approved, twenty four is there four three four as emergency as amended. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and committee. Thank you. This takes us to the beginning of our agenda. Item 1 is deferred. Action item 2040294. Got a motion and a second on the bill. It's been discussed already previously. Seeing no one in the queue unless anyone else has any questions. Seeing none. Open the ballot and record your vote. 7. Seeing none, open the ballot and record your vote. The vote. 7-8-0-0-nays. By actions you've approved, 2024-0294, takes us to item number 3, 2024-035, amendment. Got a motion in second on the amendment. All in favor of the amendment? Say aye. Those opposed have the same right. The amendment carries. I like to take a moment. Got a motion in second on the bill as amended. Can someone please explain the amendment? Yes, through the Chair to the committee. The amendment will place a revised funding agreement on file to make a couple changes. We'll clarify the termination provisions for both the city and the contractor who is UF and also clarify the city's payment obligations will include non-discrimination provisions which are required by the ordinance code will include audit rights language for the city and also make a few other technical corrections requested by OGC to some of the terms and definitions and then lastly we'll correct some scri some scripted errors within the bill. All right, I might have got ahead of myself. All right, are there any questions on the amendment? We're going to be on the consular amendment tomorrow. Do you have any questions on the amendment? All in favor of the amendment? Say aye. Those opposed have the same right? The amendment carries. We're going to be able to amend the amendment carries We got a motion in a second on the bill as amended councilmember tomorrow you recognize Thank you mr. Chair just got a quick question perhaps the Richardson can answer I thought the city was fully aware the scope of the septic tank issues To where we are up spending about a billion dollars to resolve. So I'm just curious as to why it's necessary. Thank you through the chair. James Richardson with the Environmental Protection Board. This vulnerability assessment is needed for a couple of things. The first, let me say it, will not impact the current existing prioritization, prioritization matrix. What this assessment will do is help us to identify county-wide septic systems throughout the city. The prioritization matrix was done with 35 neighbourhoods comprised of the urban services district. This takes a look at the county, full county. The septic the current matrix thinks there are about 23,000 septic tanks. We think there are about 23,000 septetanks. We think there are about 70,000 countywide and this assessment will help us to do this. Help us to identify if that is in true a good number. From a resilient standpoint, it is critical. We will be taking a look at one cleaning data that J.A. and the Health Department currently has helping to hone in on the exact locations of as many septic systems as we are able to identify. We're using that data and taking into consideration a number of variables around sea level rise, rising groundwater, and impacts from future storm events to assess how vulnerable those septic systems are. Second key point this will help us with countywide requirements we have with DEP. We are required to identify to the greatest extent possible septic systems throughout the county that are likely to be impacted because they are within 200 meters of a water body. This assessment helps us get that information for DEP which is required within a couple of years. this assessment helps us get that information for DEP, which is required within a couple of years. And then lastly, this will positively, I think, position the city for a number of funding opportunities. Resilient funding, resilience funding is opening up throughout the state. One of the key requirements for that funding is availability assessment. So this sort of checks that box and makes us eligible for a number of potential funding sources that can help with the existing septic conversion projects as well as others. Hope that answers your question. and I'm just asking you to consider the existing septic conversion projects as well as others. Hope that answers your question. Through the chair, thank you so much. It does. But it's one of those things about government. You're asking yourself why couldn't this have been done prior to? I don't have any problems with the bill. It's just making a statement, it seems like once again, we're spending money on something that should have been done before the initial replacement project, which is now, if my information is correct, is now in the works in the identified urban core area and the reality is given are 840 square miles. There are a number of communities beyond the urban core area where subdivisions are occupying septic tanks and that should be a knowledge that's pretty commonplace that assessment should have already been done. That's all I got to say. So I'm not being critical of this effort. It just seems like the horse is out the barn and now we're spending money to find out exactly where the horse is. Appreciate that through the chair. I think the key aspect of this is the variables that will be considered as a part of this assessment were not necessarily considered in the past. Sea level rise, the impact of ground, rising groundwater, and the potential of compound flooding. There's a big resilient compound flooding modeling that's going on now. All of that information will certainly add to information that was gathered in the past. So this is an enhancement. Thank you, Councillor Remarjohnson, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have several questions. I've been kind of all over this morning. First, thank you, through the Chair, Mr. Richardson. Thank you so much for bringing this to us. Obviously this is something that needs to be taken care of. I'd like to know the methodology. Could the, do you have someone with you from University of Florida that can walk me through the methodology of what this would look like? I do. Through the chair, let me bring up Trisha, because our Trisha is with the University of Florida Center for Coastal Solutions and she will briefly take you through the methodology. Thank you, Mr. Richardson. Thank you, commissioners. Your name, please. Name and address. Thank you, sorry. Trisha Kaiser from Gainesville, Florida, with the University. The methodology for a study like this is to incorporate multiple parameters. In this case, they would include all of those parameters that are currently in the septic system, phase out matrix. Additionally, we'll be adding the compound flood model that's being developed through the Office of Resilience here, as well as other parameters that are designed to represent social justice variables. These are put into a methodology that provides weights and ranks for each of those based on what their values are in space for each of the septic systems themselves and then creates a scoring that identifies how vulnerable each of these septic systems is to hydraulic failure based on these combinations of parameters. What will be through the chair, the impact that this study will have on the current list that J.E.A. has as to the current septic tank phase out process. Yes, thank you. The impact to the current list is to provide additional information for each of those neighborhoods to help put those systems that are most vulnerable within those neighborhoods on a higher ranking or priority for their own phase-out or conversion for septic to sewer. It will also provide same information for all the other neighborhoods that are in the county in addition to those 35. Through the chair, Mr. Richardson, where does J.E.A. stand on this particular project, please? and where does J.E.A. stand on this particular project, please? Through the Chair, J.E.A. has been a partner, if you will, in helping to define the scope of the project. So they are aware of the project. I don't know that, you know, the septic to sewer conversion as a city project. JAA is involved in the design and some of the construction and carrying it out, but ultimately as a city project. To the extent that they've been involved and will be involved, I would hope that they are supportive of the assessment being done. So at this point, through the chair, we don't know right now. Through the chair again, J.A. has been at the table and helping us divine the scope of the project. My understanding is that they are aware of it. They have no issues with the assessment moving forward. So I guess I would say that they would support it. The $200,000 that's coming from the fund balance. This is not from General Fund. This is coming from a trust fund. Can you explain where those, I'm assuming, right? Through the chair, where are those funds specifically coming from? Through the chair, this is coming from the Environmental Protection Trust Fund, which consists of fines and penalties when people run a foul, if you will, of the board rules. It is not general fund money's at all. Meaning that these funds, and this could be an auditor or a council question, these funds have to be specifically used for certain things like this kind of study. You can't just use them for, to go back into the general fund, they must be used for certain things, yes? Correct. Through the chair, ordinance 360 there are, I think 10 different specific uses in the ordinance code of which, of how the fund can be used. Studies, investigation, test, environmental projects, things like that are acceptable uses, and that is why the board approved coming to Council seeking the appropriation. They are the first guards, if you will, of uses of the trust fund. So it met qualifications in their eyes and they asked us to go forward and seek the appropriation from Council. Very quickly, last but not least, the, it says that the final assessment will be about a year and a half from now or so. Is there anything that could possibly preclude that taking longer since there are. I guess mitigating factors as to where the septic tanks are are people self identifying they have septic tanks. What have you that could that process theoretically be longer than October of 25. Through the chair I'll let Trisha confirm I think with the process and methodology methodology that they have outlined working with J.A. working with the Department of Health to identify and clean the data so to speak I think a year and a half is more than enough time. Am I right? Yes. Okay. Last thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for indulging me in those questions. I just, I tend to agree with my colleague, Mr. Chair, Mr. Merrill, in the fact that it seemed to be a redundancy of process and using money. However, because the funds that are in that trust fund, I was initially a no on this. But that's why I have been asking those questions because of the, you have to have those funds used only for certain things. Rather than it just sit there, I'd rather see it and rather see what we can do to get the project moved forward as quickly as possible. So while I was a little reticent about it, I think this could be an opportunity for us to hopefully catapult into getting these septic tanks out of the ground and getting our communities in a safer posture. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Miller, you recognize. Thank you, Chair. Through the Chair, Mr. Richardson, what we have here is an allowance for a direct contract to the University of Florida Center for Coastal Solutions. Was there anyone else, nothing against UF, but were there any other universities or other organizations considered for this work. Through the chair, there were not. We, I became aware of this assessment after a presentation that the University did to the Regional Resilience Steering Committee, of which I remember. They pitched doing this on a regional basis for the five counties in the region. The Regional Council had some other things going on and was not able to take that on, so I approached our Chief Resilience Officer, given the fact that we had just done a vulnerability assessment of public infrastructure as a part of her work, approached her and had a discussion of the value of this information. She agreed, I thought it would be very good. So we asked University of Florida to take the existing project, if you will, and give us a scope of work for the City of Jacksonville. Thank you. Councillor McCarty would you recognize? All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And to share the Councillor others, how much what's the balance in the EEP or Environmental Protection Fund right now? Do you have that number? Can you get that? Yes, through the Chair to Council Member Carly-Chi. Before this appropriation, there's a little under $820,000 in the fund. I'm sorry, use that as before. Before. Okay, all right, thank you. Mr. Borland. Thank you, Mr. Vice Chair. Needless to say, we spend an extended about time this morning in neighborhoods about this period bill. And the concerns of redundancy that come up time and time again as part of the conversation. I think Mr. Richardson and others did a good enough job to share that there are far more subject tanks than originally part of the original plan back in 2015, 16 when it was done. One of the important comments that I heard this morning that resonated with me with respect to the impact of the same ethnic mischreaser kind of reference to it. As you probably know in the process as they move forward, however slowly, to getting to the next projects in the queue, it does require 75% approval of the neighbors to be able to undertake the project for those neighborhoods. And in this study, we'll help us and help them in understanding the gravity of the work that needs to be done in the urgency of the work in their particular neighborhoods over and above that. I think, Jay, in the context of this process, traditionally is the implementer. They played a minor role, if you will, in the original study, back know, back in 2015-16 about the plausibility of serving those areas. But the determinants actually was the Department of Health and Public Works and EPV, I suspect, in terms of that prioritization. So I do appreciate the questions. I can tell you, Mr. Richardson was grilled a lot more this morning than he is today, but we walk away fairly confident that this is not a redundant project in the sense that it expands this giving scope and to your point bringing other factors into the conversation as we move it forward. I do see it as an opportunity to educate the existing users of subject tank systems to understand where they are in that process. One thing we don't see in this process yet, and hopefully down to what we will, because it's going to be years of not decades for some of the neighborhood on that list to be addressed, that's how we can assist families who are in the subject systems that are either failing or imminently failing, that we can provide them some support or guidance at the very least as to how they can maintain or improve their systems. And Mr. Richardson, I know that's going to be in the queue after all this. I think this study will give us a better picture of what that looks like in the gravity across the entire scope of the county as you do this work. So I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Boilin, seeing no one else in the queue. It's been moved and properly seconded. Please open the ballot and record your vote. Seven, yeas, zero, nays. The actions you've approved, 2020-325 as amended. It takes us to item number four. 2024-0-332. The motion is second on the bill. Mr. Clement. I'm not sharing a little bit about this. Absolutely. Bill Clinton, Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. This is an appropriation from the Sheriff's Special Law Enforcement Trust Fund. It's doing four things. We're providing funding to the Teen Driver's Special Revenue Trust Fund. We're funding the Police Explorer's Trust Fund, re-upping the amount allocated towards the Homeward Bound Program and funding various organizations in accordance with state statute with the requirement that 25% of the fund be spent on front prevention, safe neighbourhood, drug education, things of that nature. All right, thank you. Bring it back to the committee. Any questions? Real quick, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Mr. Clemmons, through the chair, there's questions asked this morning. I thought if we get to revisit it, the downtown vision alliance as to why that's part of this mix, the how it qualifies. Absolutely. Through the Chair to Councilman Boilin. we get to revisit it, the downtown vision alliance as to why that's part of this mix, the Holocaust. Absolutely, through the Chair to Councilman Boilin. So the allocation of the downtown vision alliance is to support the operational expenses of the Downtown Ambassador Program. They're the ones that help maintain enhanced down to that injection, we'll provide clean, safe, hospitable environment. You can. All right, yeah. I just have one question and great organizations here. How do you how does an organization learn about an opportunity maybe to be a part of something like this? To the chair so the sheriff of recently has only been funding what he seems to be core partners But we are accepting applications Usually the organizations will reach out to the sheriff or is it assistant directly and we'll get him a copy of the application All right, thank you so much for that. It's been moved and properly seconded. Please open the ballot and record your vote. 7.8, zero nays. All right, actions you've approved, 2020-4-0332. Item five is deferred, but 2020-4-0334. It was deferred due to the planning commission and in neighborhoods, the question was asked. I asked the question of why was the planning commission deferring a bill and at that time it was shared with us that the planning department had not rendered a report. And so Mr. Jemes came down and met with me, Mr. James, if you don't mind, can you please share your name, please position? Brett James, Director, Planning and Development Department. So this arrived to us on 22 May for the next Planning Commission meeting. That next one was on 23 May, the next day, so no time to get it on there. So the next one actually is this week. So we have a staff report and able to go to that planning commission, sir. Got it. So you said it landed. What does that mean when you say something lands? It came to us on the 22nd of May. Okay. I'm sorry. And so Mr. James, do you recall the conversation when this bill was being discussed and debated, and I referenced that there was a portion in the section in the bill, the ordinance that was passed by the council last year unanimously, that said any recommendations were to be brought back to this council from the Planning Department and the Planning Commission, and that was not on February, on May 22nd. That would have been actually been last year. Okay, I wouldn't hear last year, sir. Okay, so since we've talked to whoever briefed you on that, they failed to share that with you. So I feel like it's a little bit of a deception here because that piece of evidence, that piece of information has been out there. So I don't accept the 522 reasoning. The next question I would ask you is, do you see any recommendations coming from the Planning Department when it comes to the section that is in the bill that we in the ordinance that we passed last year? Yeah, to the chair. Planning Department is not taking a position on the bill. Okay so my question to OGC when it comes to the planning commission are they able to discuss a bill that's before them if there was no report from the planning department. To the chair. My understanding the ordinance code requires that whenever there's an amendment to chapter 656 that the committee of reference you all cannot take action until you receive both the recommendation of the planning commission and the recommendation of the planning department. And through the Chair to Mr. James, my understanding is it gets to the Planning Commission after they render their staff report and their recommendation to the Planning Commission. So if I'm going to say that correctly, it should have been due to the Planning Department. It was deferred not the planning commission. I can't speak to the particular, particulars of this. I don't know when it got to the planning department or when they drafted their report and when that was sent to the planning commission. I don't have those particulars. I could look into that if you'd like. I definitely would. And I don't want to beat this too much. But as I shared in neighborhoods, when you have such a hot topic like this and fully understand the spirit of what my colleagues are doing, and if shared that I do believe that a resolution is the most appropriate way to honor someone or to signify some of the injustices that have happened when we already have laws on the books. And so my challenge that I'm dealing with here is now it's back to where I thought it was in the beginning. The Planet Department is a reason that this conversation that's dividing our city. I mean, I can't go anywhere without someone thanking me and without someone yelling at me. And instead of figuring out how to fix potholes, figure out how to stop violent crimes from happening, we're talking about a piece of legislation that already exists at the state and federal level and how it should be implemented or can it be should it be implemented or redundancy of bills here. So Mr. James, I don't know what to say or ask here, other than the fact that this is going to now push us back another cycle. When we spoke early, you felt as if there wouldn't be any recommendations coming from the planning department. Which then means it goes back to the planning commission. And if the planning commission and if the planning commission gets it with no recommendations then are they in a position as and I'm not I've never served on the planning commission so I'm not fully aware of where their authority lies and what's called the question here is is what we added as a city was a gap in hate okay and I've been on the phone with South Carolina, believe it or not, they don't have this bill at the state level in South Carolina. And across was burned on someone's yard and they came to a very close friend of mine, my brother. The NAACP's held their headquarters at his church. And it's a federal offense. The feds come in on those things. All right, at the state level, 75.085 going with all the rest covers everything else from age to gender identity to race to religion and there was one gap and that gap was exploited here in our city and our great city of projecting an image on a building on a public building or a private building. And so we as a body and Mr. Apparer helped write it and if you remember she wrote two brilliant bills that were exactly the same wording but we closed that gap that said okay we'll use code enforcement and we will cite that as trespassing. So now if you shine something on someone's house, you just shine on yours. And if you want to be ignorant and do that, that's your right and your freedom of speech, your first amendment right. But if you shine it on my house, you're trespassing. And so that's why we added that piece to our code that now puts it all on, or that we can enforce, in the state copied it. So that's how we got where we're at. So I wanna make sure that, you know, and I'm just tired of this conversation. And so I don't know, I was gonna ask the president if he could just discharge this and let us just debate it out and vote it up or down, but instead it looks like now you're gonna have to give a report that says you don't take a position. So it's government at its finest, right? Slow, red tape, waste of time to go to a planning commission that now gets a report that says no recommendations and no position. And what do they do with it? If the planning department who sits really in a little higher capacity, what can a planning commission do then? To the chair. So the code requires that the department is responsible for making an advisory recommendation to the commission and to the council. So unless we're going amend the bill to waive the code and waive those requirements that both Planning Commission and Planning Department need to make recommendations, then it needs to be deferred until those things happen. And that's a shame. That is fine, that is the process. Thank you, Mr. James. So I just wanted to make sure that I got on a record and for the record, Mr. James, our conversation did change from what we shared earlier. So I believe in giving trust and when it's given back, it's really hard to get it back from me again. So now we'll move on to item six, 2020, I'm sorry, Mr. Johnson. Mr. Chair, I don't want to beat the dead horse here, but so does that mean that I'm still confused here that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. I'm not sure if that's the right answer. Can I get some clarity please? Help me understand. Am I here alone? Help me please someone through the chair to someone. Through the chair to Councilmember Johnson, the code requires that the Planning Department render a recommendation to you and to planning commission. Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair, Mr. James. May we see you please? When can we expect to have a recommendation from the planning department? I'm sorry through the chair to Councillor Johnson. Question was when can we expect to have a recommendation from the planning department and we don't have a recommendation is unacceptable. My recommendation is to take no position on it. So the bill actually just increases the fine. It doesn't change the regulation itself. I hear all, with all due respect, Mr. Chair, I hear everything you're saying. The code requires a recommendation. Whatever it is, let's get it on the record and get it done so we can move this forward. I shall ask again, when can we expect to have in writing the recommendation as is required by the code. Through the chair if I'm required I should provide a recommendation up or down we'll provide that today. Thank you so I'm hearing that this is on the record by close of business today we'll have a recommendation from the planning department which would then go to the planning commission and that therefore we can do our job Yes, that's correct by 5 p.m Thank you, mr. Chair Okay We're gonna move on but I just want to ask the officer general counsel so A bill can be filed any bill can be filed I that. But if there's a previous bill that says recommendations should be coming back to the council. And then someone, one of us, decides to draft a bill that now puts it ahead of that step, that procedural step, how do we get here? Like in the original ordinance that we filed, it says that those recommendations should have come back to us. But yet we had a bill filed that is now saying the same thing and then that bill was taken precedent over bill that was previously filed The chair I think you're referring back to the original sign projection bill if I'm not correct Okay, so the original sign projection bill due to the the urgency of the nature of that bill original sign projection bill due to the urgency of the nature of that bill. That bill included a waiver of the code requirement that it go through the planning department and the planning commission for a recommendation to the council. That was due to the exigen circumstance of when that bill was filed. So that part of the process was waived, but we are now compounding it by adding an additional sentencing structure to that same provision that was added. So this bill does not waive that it was not filed as an emergency. So the recommendations would come through based on just this change. Now, you may have had conversations at the time with the Planning Department that I'm not aware of, Mr. Chair, that you would ask for them to still make a recommendation even if informal after the fact. But that's what transpired between this bill and that prior bill was not that one had a waiver. Thank you so much. No, it's actually, and you all did an amazing job of crafting the legislation for us to make it air tight. It stated because we were moving so fast that if we got ahead of code enforcement, if we were in violation of some type of codes enforcement or zoning that they were to study it, and I shared with them that I'm not here to play the blame game. I'm not blaming the past administration. I'm not blaming the current administration. But usually during the transition, any loose ends would be picked up and tied together. And so it is language in it. And I didn't bring it here because I wasn't prepared to try to debate it today But it is already in our bill and our ordinance that says that their recommendations were to come back to us And now we have another bill that's been filed after that one that's stating the same thing And so that's why I was asking how does a bill that is filed afterwards take precedent over a bill that says it earlier And now we're having this discussion about hate in our city where it's take precedent over a bill that says it earlier. And now we're having this discussion about hate in our city. And I just, my heart breaks for those three families still because the longer we talk about it, the more they relive that horrific day. But does that make sense what I'm saying? And I left everything upstairs. I could have brought it down, the date, what we filed, there's a section in it that says that. And then it's blank because we were waiting on their recommendations the tight and then I'll close by saying any recommendations that were going to be brought back I felt the proper process would have been to add it as an amendment to what was originally filed not to come with the competing bill or a redundant bill that is doing what that bill already does and was done at the state level. To the chair, I appreciate the additional background and information. I'll be happy to get with you offline to look at that language to make sure that we're coordinating appropriately with the planning department with whatever recommendations we should be looking for with respect to this bill recognizing it's compounding off of a bill that was previously adopted by the council. And so I wanna make sure we get that information in front of you that you need. So do you see the confusion? And what I'm asking for, we're procedural. Like would that all of a sudden take 334 and put it on the table? If they do come back with recommendations because the recommendations would come back to this body as a whole, as opposed to coming back for 334, we'll come back for an up drawn a blank on the number. You're talking about 2023, 44. Yes. It would actually, we'd actually be debating that bill and recommendations being added as an amendments to that bill first. So I want to look at that language in that bill with you, Mr. Freeman. Just make sure we're addressing it procedurally correctly. I think we can still take up 334 when it's ready for action after the recommendations come up through the process. But I want to make sure we're working together with you. We'll address those questions on 44 from last year. Thank you so much for that, Mr. Poppeless. Item number 624 is 0367. We've got amendment. Motion in second on amendment. want to please explain the amendment Yes through the chair to the committee the amendment will clarify that vault voluntary contributions to existing police charities such as police athletic league are an allowable payroll deduction and will continue to be so We'll correct the department name throughout the bill to the finance department and also correct the scrivener's air within the bill. Thank you. Bringing it back to the committee. Seeing no one to queue all in favor of the amendment say aye. Those opposed have the same right the amendment carries. We're motion in the second on the bill as amended. the motion in the second on the bill as amended. Seeing no one in the queue, please open the ballot report to vote. 780 nays. By actions you're approved with 2040367 as amended. Seven is deferred, eight is deferred, nine is deferred. It takes us to item 10 on page six, 2024, 0379 on the amendment. Got a motion in a second on the amendment. Can someone please explain the amendment? Through the chair to the committee, the amendment will just correct the language within the bill to accurately reflect the current sunset date of this commission, which is July 1st 2025. Councilman Johnson, you recognize on the amendment or on the bill. On the bill itself. Okay. Apologies on the bill. My favorite amendment say aye. Those opposed at the same right. The amendment carries. The motion is second on the bill is amendment. Councillor Mourjonson. I just wanted to speak to this quickly, Mr. Chair. I am the liaison for the Council for the Safety and Crime Reduction Commission. While it has done a Yomans job of putting this together in the work that they're doing, I see no need in the work that I've seen for it to continue. So the sunset date is just six months earlier so that we can report out and thank those commissioners who have done such a great job in moving things forward and focus all our intention on upcoming programs at the city will be focused on. Thank you. Thank you so much, seeing no one else in the queue. Please open the ballot or cord to vote. Seven yay, zero nays. We actually you're approved 24 0379 11's been taken care of See our next action item will be on page 9 Item 19 2024 0394 Got a motion of second amendment. Can someone please explain the amendment? Through the Chair to the committee, the amendment will clarify that the funding source for this new sales force project is a transfer of debt management fund loan proceeds from two previous ITD projects that are now completed. The PBX Telecommunications Upgrade Project and the JFRD mobile data terminals refresh project. We'll amend the five year IT system development plan and attach that as a new exhibit to include this new Salesforce project. We'll attach the Salesforce public sector platform implementation project information sheet as a new exhibit to the bill. We'll amend Schedule B4A, which is your borrowing for IT projects as a new exhibit to this bill. We'll correct the oversight department name to the technology solutions department. And lastly, we'll attach or revise exhibit one, which is the BT to correct the project number for the Salesforce project. All right, thank you. Seeing no one in the queue, all in favor of the amendment. Say aye. Those opposed have the same right. The amendment carries. An motion second on the bill. As amended, Ms. Kendrick, would you carry the come up and share? Chairman Freeman, thank you so much for taking the time to listen to me today. When you only can direct technology solutions, when I initially came to the City of Jackson of O.S. spent time with our business partners, the administration, many of your constituents and of course each of you. In that process it was identified that we have a true opportunity related to the MIBJAC system. That is a ticketing system that ensures that our constituents have an opportunity to put service tickets in. As of today, that system at best is clunky. It's difficult for our constituent to add a service ticket. It's difficult for them to add additional pictures, and it's very difficult for our field workers to close tickets on a timely basis. And therefore, the recommendation is for us to take funds from lower priority projects and transfer them to this project, which is a priority project. The goal is to finish this project in January, February timeframe. Thank you, Ms. Kendrick, is seeing anyone in the queue? Any questions? All right, Council Member Millie, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair, through the Chair. I just had one group question it is in the notes on page 19, but I just wanted to ensure that I'm reading this right. This will result not just in transferring funds from other projects to fund this, but it will still have an additional $4.4 million of debt associated with this project. Is that correct? We don't have the funding identified for all of this project. Through the Chair to Councilman Miller, this is actually a series of projects. And so this phase of the projects is for the MIJACs upgrade and the initial implementation necessary for the Office of Economic Development. They're just using spreadsheets now. The additional phases that you're seeing are additional departments and or enhancements. So this project will result in an initial upgraded solution for MIJAacks and an initial solution for Office of Economic Development. Those additional next steps include the grant solution and another number of additional departments. Can someone else maybe answer then? Yes, through the Chair to Council Member Miller, the project information sheet that we were provided from technology solutions does show a total cost of $5.4 million over a four-year period. So that would be for the sales force project as a whole, as Ms. Kendrick mentioned. There's multiple components of that project, but that would require additional future funding 4.4 million dollars of that would be required in the debt Increase through the chair to councilmember Miller. That's correct. That's how it's been identified now But that would all be approved in future budgets, so Okay, I just wanted to clarify that's all. Thank you both very much. Councilmember Johnson, you recognize. Please be nice. Oh, please come on. I'm a nice guy. Through the chair to miscarer my question. It's this, the funding though is not coming from one single source. This funding is going to be coming from these individual departments, which I'm assuming that NBRC has already kind of laid out That's coming in from those other departments am I correct in that assumption? Through the chair to councilmember Johnson the funding that's being appropriated in this bill is coming from two projects that have been closed and they had Budgetary capacity available to fund this project so the, that to kind of councilman Miller's question, is it indeed true debt or is it just kind of moving line items or moving spaces? Through the chair to councilmember Johnson, it is true debt. Okay. Thank you. All right, thank you and we discussed this in neighborhoods. Councilmember Buon, did you have anything to add about it Salesforce is definitely a a tough but valuable tool To use and for efficiency, especially with government You know example I shared was when I was serving as a district council person The technology we used to report incidents where residents would take a picture of the tires and then take a picture of the crossroad and then Jerry would figure out where it's at and put it in 630 city. So you're looking at an app to where now real time in the community that they're able to better communicate with their district council member which I thought was a very, very unique tool. If you read the paper this weekend, and I don't make a habit of reading it, but when I have some sitting in a nine-year softball game all day, start pulling some stuff up when she's not hitting, there was actually an opinion written about sidewalks being done, and we're very frustrated with their ability to communicate and share and things of that nature. And then last I will share when we talk about technology. Mr. and Councilmember Amara heard this in the special committee with J.S.A.B. You know, one of the biggest hurdles that we had in the beginning that was stated in the, whatever word it is, I need my SAT guy, I see the capability of culpability statement. One of those two was that the language of the pilot program, it could do, it's powerful. But yet, the antiquated system that the city had really limited the ability, they couldn't speak to each other. And so they had to do more of a use the terms that they use. I can't remember them. But I think that that's where we're going to start seeing greater value coming because as I shared earlier and I'm going to keep beaten on this drum, I think that if unless the attorneys tell me we can't, nonprofits are going to be able to be qualified as JCEPs in the near future. And so the capacity is going to look to grow even more so. Fingers crossed on that and I think this is the direction we got ahead and to really help move our city forward that we can handle the growth and the work that's coming. So thank you so much. It's been a move. It's been a move that's properly seconded. Please open the ballot and record your vote. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. 7.00. the seven. And I think that takes us to page 14 item 35, 2024, 0449. This is the resolution honoring Tom Willis for his nearly 50 years of service. We got a motion and a second on it. I believe I was added in neighborhoods, seeing no one in the queue. Please open the ballot and record your vote. 7.00. 7.00. You have to approve 24-0, 4.49. Last item, item 36, 24-0, 4.50. This is a honouring and commending Dr. Michael George, Atlantic Coast High School principal. We've got a motion and a second on it. I was added in neighborhoods as well. Seeing no one in the queue, please open about it, record your vote. The vote is set. Seven, eight, zero, nays. By your actions, you've approved 2024-0450. I believe that brings us to the end of this meeting. Any comments, questions or concerns for the good order? Seeing none, that meeting's a... Mr. Ritchard, I'll send you a text. If you got a minute, when we get through here, please. Thank you. That means you don't have a choice. This meeting's adjourned. you you you Thank you. you you you you you you you you