Good morning. We'll just sit up for a minute. We expect you to sit up for a minute. The promise is not the same. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. Okay. Now let's take away his paper and a fan. Thank you. Got more seats back here. Thank you. Do you have more seats? We don't want everybody to have seen. Okay. Welcome, everyone. I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to be here with us for the regular council meeting for late 10. We'll call the meeting to order and ask that you stand and join me in a moment of silence and invite you to honor that silence in any way you say fit and follow that with pledge allegiance. Thank you. I'll play a few things to the flag of United States of America and to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under our indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Well, welcome, y'all, it's guest. But I have a couple of special guests, and I'd like to introduce them. Tripit, we have Scott Steven Strick on back here from 527. Steven stand up working on his eagle, working on the Marriott Pagge, I guess, for community citizenship. Okay. And we're having another staff coming late from 3,513. Introduce yourself, young man. I'm Kevin Bill. Good to have you here. And I wish you both the best of luck in your pursuit of the eagle. Item 3 on your agenda is noted as presentation of National Safety Council awards. I will call on our safety officer Steve Paye to come to the front. We're very honored to be able to do this tonight. tonight as the safety officer for the city of the Asheville is my pleasure with the mayor of the council and the city manager and anybody that's involved with the city that we had two employees within a four week period of time through a tremendous act on selfish and they actually saved lives. And one was happened to be for a double officer and another one was for a citizen. But the point of the thing is they were willing to do this for a lot of times. We have our mature adults that are going to have these situations. The first one I'm going to give this recognition and present it to, and I'd like Billi to come up. Billi Middleton is a street foreman for the City of Madnessville and April 14th of this year. He was off duty and he was going home. As you all know, as we are city employees, we are 24 hours, 7 days, we are 365. We're here to represent the citizens of Astral. So Billy has stopped at the store. And there was a commotion that happened, and there was a gentleman laying on the floor, and he was purple. The gentleman was in his 60s, I believe. And Billy had just completed first-aid seat factory again in January. And one of the things we teach our people is that don't be afraid to help somebody, right? So Billy went right to it. He actually saw another person trying to do CPR, they didn't know how to do it. So Billy took over and he actually stayed the gentleman. He did what he could do with CPR until EMS got there. So Billy called me on four o'clock that afternoon. And then one of the first things he said to me says Steve, I think I wrote the gentleman's turn. And I said Billy, like a setting classes, that classes that's gonna happen if you're doing it right That's probably gonna happen But I said the first thing you did is you give that gentleman a chance to live and so Billy on behalf of the city of Asheville the National Safety Council of North Carolina like present you this recognition award. Thank you very much. Applause The other one I have, unfortunately, Master Lieutenant Maxine Wright right now with us. She is on vacation, I believe. But Maxine also did a similar thing, except it was for the fellow officer. It was during the human race on March 24th. And, uh, the, Maxine isn't, and if I'm not correct, I had the honor guard. Yes. And, uh, they were at the Human Race. And one of the fellow officers went down and had a seizure. And again, Maxine with her training at the City of Asheville, given that she jumped right in immediately and started performance CPR and stabilized the officer until the MS ride and we're able to get them to the hospital. These things are buzzing beyond the duty of what we really look at. You know, we could say things about it that when I teach my class and we talk about it, you go to any class and there's people that will stand by and not do anything. These people didn't stand by. They actually wanted to action. So it's a great honor to give this to Maxine. Very proud of her. I know the city's proud of her. We're proud that the officer is still with us today So unfortunately my vaccines nine here. So I'm gonna give this to either the major the chief so they can carry that on Thanks to Thank you. Call the manager, John Huggburn, to recognize three retirements. Thank you Mayor. I'm going to go ahead and do the chart. First thing to see when we have first was the daily maintenance. We have to be honest with you. It's pretty tough for me to stand up here and do this and to do it. My favorite all forever work with you. I saw Ripwick Shore on both of them. Billy and I were in North Carolina's first mandated rookie school called Basic Law Enforcement Training in 1979 and 1980, we were in class one. And it's pretty neat to get to see us start in class one and finish up with both right and right in the winner of our career so to be. But Billy started when I did we used to be sweat all over and we looked each other and wanted to be doing in this class and taking a test especially when he's done in the one week and then at the end of it. But we stuck it out and we had worked together many years and the ability to over the years was just an absolute good officer. It rose all the way to the level of lieutenant and was probably the best squat commander we've ever had in mind. So I want to recognize the fact that one little funny on the hill is he's through a real particular with his hat. So we got all the way back there. You see a lot of sunken drums, but we used to have to hide from our former chief, Danny Bullard, but the hat on when we'd come around and come in real quick because he'd have a shrug and bit of a real particular bad as hired. You see what he's done to us at the end of the credits. Go ahead. We'll say this is, come up, Billy. This is your badge. It's a Aspergley's Faulk Lieutenant badge. It's 420. It's the Billy John Maines Jr. This is given as a token of our gratitude for your loyal service and friendship, also especially of our appreciation for your standards of excellence over the years. March 1st, 1982 to February 1st, 2012 from the Asperer Police Department. Along with that, we have your service weapon. Unloaded and cost-faxed, you can see it. That you carried on duty. We give you that. And I have one little token I like to give you is personal coin. And I call someone and say, I can do all things. We've tried to predict it quickly. And I want to let it go. And I appreciate it. Thank you very much. We particularly want to do these wipes, or you can all not sell it, because you made a picture of you and do the thing. And we just want to acknowledge the spouses of our public servants a lot of hours. Dick, if you're a police officer firefighter, a water plan operator, or a wastewater plan operator in a 30-year career, you will miss 15 Christmases, you will miss 15 thanks givens, you will miss 15 birthdays, you will miss 15 anniversaries, you will miss 15 fortilized. All those things your family give up. You miss them. So tonight when we go to bed for these guys, this is just another work day. And unfortunately a lot of stuff happens after that. So we're proud of you and they'll try to all these guys. I think it's a great tribute to some of Billy's guys have worked from her back here. So they're all here to them. And then we have this final plaque to help a half of City of Marriages off, with some Mayor McCapsley. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I call up Mark Hinchall. Let me borrow it for just a little bit. I've got the privilege to work with Mark. I'm now for getting first out. I want to see him off there to. I don't know very much. I don't know if he's going to be trying. He was a player of the Society. In my fact, most of my work on what I consider the best year we ever had assembled. I had to share it from all of it. To the police chiefs, to the magistrate. I saw it on my web troll. I saw it on my way to the show. I saw him on the investigation. Everybody on that shift runs to a different level. A whole other professional living situation in Mark's one of them. And there's one thing he said about Mark. If you gave him an opportunity to do something for you to pick up, I mean, like that. A great guy. We used to call him a bitch, a bitch with a one man and always call him that. He was just a great guy. The message I worked with and really enjoyed working with him. He also was one of the original SWAT team members with us and he helped us hold on like this thing in a later end. You can't not need to know that because that's what the police need. They call the SWAT team and we'll come in and check the monkey off of their back and you can't not need to do that because that's what the police need help. They call the SWAT thing and we'll come in and take the monkey off of their back and put it on our shoulders. So, the SWAT thing in the usual special is the SWAT. But this is your bag's number. That's 588, okay. 588, Mark Allen, here in Charlton. It's been given in token of our gratitude for your loyal service and friendship and also expression of our appreciation for your standard of excellence over the years. September 1st, 1985, May 1st, 2012. I throw a piece of wine. And then we're going to give your service weapon. It's also caught back in nothing in it. That you carried right here on duty. And there's something I would like to say about both of these guys. There's probably about the 30, 79, the 9 when we started as reserves building that was reserves together. Probably never anybody that could shoot a weapon better than you two guys, other than maybe Mark Talber. And also want to give you the same coin that I've got. And it says I'm going to do all things through Christ Jesus, which strengthens me. I'll let you know. Thank you. I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have to say that I'm going to have tourn, I do want to meet you one thing. We have a promotional ceremony Monday, a Chuckie Spencer. We'll be stepping up to the rank of soldier, where Mark Henshaw is vacated. Chuckie stand up. Chuckie is moving on Monday. And I'll say in a minute, that kind of say the way Dwight Dyle is saying that the word of the city gets to work. Right on. I do think it's a great tribute. Billion Mark that Bob Willhoig attorney member of the Grand Off Bar, Park Bell, attorney member of the Grand Off Bar, and then on the other side, everything that's in these cases, have a lot of respect for these guys in the case that they can produce. So it's an adversarial system set up by the Constitution, but they're not adversaries, they're just on different sides of the case. So that's a great tribute to these guys and the professionalism these guys. So we have one more retirement mayor very special one. I'd ask our longtime plan director to come up. Minutes as retiring with the 35 years of service with the city. He has been a great friend, a great ally, a great community servant. All this development around town, he thanked 35 years ago, asperals like, built with downtown BC Morris, actually they've BC Morris in existence and it was downtown. It just completely different. Realists that a lot of the city, those technologies on the board are actually the first national banking and now community once who've been an activist, who've been a chambered court member, scouting leader, you know men and scouts, men and even scouts, scouting leader forever, I think it has scouts pretty much in Nashville. It's a gentleman of snow. And most importantly, a great day, a great dozen, a great friend, which is most important to y'all to anybody. So we have a special plaque. This is made on a table road pottery. It's actually for a city hall with 35 years of service. Thank you very much. We have this gift again from the capsule, and puller mayors. Puller mayors, so that's pretty good hall. You can look at how the wall there is not that many mayor's in Nashville. That's pretty good hall. And again, this is the Ryan Reynolds-Middi Jr. I appreciate the vote of the service that you need to develop, the department's community development. 35 years, a 1-4-1977 to 4-.20. This has a lot of writing on the things I see. This is a very special award. The State of North Carolina awards on the so many of these in here. This is the House Award to State of North Carolina awards only so many of these a year. This is the highest award the State of North Carolina offers. This is the order of the Long Leave High. And this is the State of April 30, 20th. The State of North Carolina, Beverly Eves, Purdue, Governor, proposing special confidence in the integrity, learning, and zeal of Ryan Reynolds-Millie-Jinger. I do think present and confer to order the long-leaf pine with the rank of an ambassador extraordinary privilege to enjoy all fully rights granted to members of this exalted order among weeks of the special privilege to propose a following North Carolina toast and select home anywhere in the world. And of course, the touch is here to the land in the long week time. The summer land will assign us shine. Where the wheat goes strong and the strong move bring. Here's to down home, Illinois State. But what are the government that produced April 30, 2012, for many 45 years of service to the public and the city of Ashland. That's a very special work for a very special person. Mills is actually, we'll be coming back and working with us a little bit. Part time, we'll have a new community development director, Jim first. I'll please sit back down. That's Trevor Mudd, who's the work of the city and is back to work for us. You can see a green square in Gilbert County, but it's coming back to us from John Evans right here, because in the case of a few minutes, two people will be promoted to the Assistant Director. So, as I said earlier, which will be open tomorrow. So, somebody's got to do all work. So, Reynolds is actually here to like an unofficial capacity as a citizen, but he will be back some in June through the rest of the summer, and it's the fall of it, and I'd like to consult with you forever about the speaking without a mention of a couple of projects. So again, it's a great honor, I will say it is, that my dad came to town here in 61 when the first speaker met the room's there, and you know, an insurance business and we're still over there today, so I guess it's okay. I haven't had to collect you. I don't want to, but we've had to. So we're glad to have you and best wishes from all of us. And the answer to the question is yes. And it's the question is, is Ashburg better place since you work for it? And the answer is yes. Yes. If I'm by all of you, all of you truly and tempted to leave it by those that I've found. You did. Thank you. Applause. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a good news ban new situation here. The good news is these three dedicated city employees have completed their careers and have retired and now get to enjoy other proceedings. The ban uses, we lost almost a hundred years of service and three of our finest employees. The next item on business is the consent agenda. Is there any item in the consent agenda that you wish to have removed for individual consideration? Move it, approve it. Consent agenda. We have a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. We have a motion from the Carter to second. A second from this program. I'm sorry. Okay. I'll track there. Any discussion? On the paper say aye. Aye. All opposed. Like sign. Motion carried. Consent agenda is approved. Mr. Oliver Anders arrived at Vickie-Oward. He is not here. Okay, we will move item six, down into a little bit later on our agenda, and we will move into item seven, community development items, and our second to be assistant director, John Evans, will present the case. Excuse her, Mr. Mayor. The first item, the question of designated a local historic landmark, the exterior of the Fisher's State Agency for South, located at 312 in the near out of you. Actually, this is a hell of a long time. You're doing this information this case. It's always not. Three years at the chairman, the short, same old type of commission. It's also not actually here, but representing the Dax of the women. And we consider that as a mention of the 1888 gatekeepers house. It's a local historic landmark. Since 2008, it's been 19 individual historic landmarks designated throughout the end of the town. Within the city of Asheville, you have the most local historic landmarks that have been visited since 2008. I can need you to call that. I went to read those local landmarks on the 1909 historic courthouse, the 1929 OCam restrooms, the 1929 sunset theater, the 1929 and the Charlton area, 1933, Pryton Korea Hallows, the 1938 Asheville Municipal Bill, the Mormon Duke Robinson Law Office, and by 1960. And also we have Cultural Heritage Site, which is the old Asheville cemetery. And that is a tremendous record of historic recognition of the unknown in the city of Asheville. I can meet you for all that you're doing as I see it. I'm going to promote preservation in Asheville. You're just an expert in all that you did. As a lifelong resident of Asheville, I've written by the gatekeepers house as a time, it was not really included in that field of men and the significance that that field includes the history of the vast world. I'm very excited after that, but that's why we have local historical and my views and I should say we can put information out to the public, and let them know what our heritage was. The gatekeepers say it's the assignment that since the year 2000's FOIL, there haven't go mining, it's incurred, or go exploration. Occurring throughout Randolph County, particularly over here at New Zealand, go mining area. The best thing to be rejuvenated because of the high-end unit technologies there to do that, exploring these mines to see if it is financially feasible to extract gold from it. So we have a lot of that going on with the exploration of Randolph County right now in 2012. In the 1880s here in Nashville, I always like to try to visualize all the talking about Reynolds-Liggins, talking about 35 years ago, since the new Chinese is here to see Asheville. We go back to 1880. In the early 1880s, this was all a farm that was in the heart-eating side. In Asheville, in the debris, retired, retired British soldier had just finished service in India and they were working for the goldmine and the London. They were the ones that were controlling all the goldmines back at the time. And they came to Ashville to supervise the goldmine and operations that were taking place out of the river You can get right into our county. We're in that New York Go-Mont area where we're beginning to explore today. And these three British Army officers did quite a bit in Asheville. One of them's name was Basel John Fisher. Once you remember that last name, Fisher, because it's going to be learned. See how that kind of expanded just a little bit over the years today. He acquired a 300 and 84 acre of stake. And all that was down here on the center of that. Down around where the Masonic Law, the Old Masonic Law, he used to be a 300 and 84 acre. I couldn't put in three British officers came over to America. If you feel the largest house at that time, it's two and a half stories. The largest house that ever been seen in Asher, so you kind of imagine what's going on. You got rural or agricultural asher or farmland. You got three greatest army officers from India. Coming over here to manage gold being produced in one of the finance out of London, when they build a five, three-minute eight-submakers out here in the center, which was the center of the town at that time, and build a largest house, the ones ever sending probably in the whole county. On his estate, he had a lot of different, what's called, accessory buildings. And the gatekeeper's house was one of the accessory buildings to his 384 acre estate. And it was maybe used as a gatekeeper's house. It may have been used as a residence over the years for some of his friends, that history is a little clouded on that and it's different. It's a different historical record about that. But as time went on, he experienced a death in his family and one of his 23 British Army officers died here in Hasbro. He had a young daughter that died and this basal John Fisher moved the Greensboro. Well, he did the same thing in Greensboro, he still gold industry was pretty lucrative at that time and he bought a huge strike land up in Greensboro and today that land that he began here in Asheville moved up to Greensboro, it's called the Fisher Park, which is a historic district in Grinchville. So it's funny how the circle kind of comes back around and now we're in Asheville considering designated this gatekeeper's house as a local historic landmark. After he left at 300 and some acres was subdividide, which was the same back then as it is, got a track of land, everyone was sub-divide. So that's what happened. Sub-divide had lots of small lots of developments falling into the faces where he sold it here in Ash for only that small thing. That's what he was on the problem. Oh, I don't know where he was. He would have been a cam. I was against it. I was a cam. But anyway, yes, Laney was about to have the small tracks and used throughout the years, but that manch is the picture head. The two-and-a-half story manch in the larger town is here with Bill Nashville at the time. Ultimately story, Nancy and the largest house ever built Nashville at the time. Ultimately was used as the first real hospital in Nashville. That's the first hospital, the first real facility that was used as a hospital. And that burnt down, that closed, it was first hospital run by a doctor at Hayworth and that hospital closed in 1931 and in 1934 the mansion was destroyed by the fire. The Get Keepers house was ultimately reserved as a result of the work of these ladies that are here today of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day, through after the end of the day This is a beautiful, beautifully preserved piece of property. This comes to you as a recommendation, and I'm sorry from the historic landmark preservation commission. The direct visit, this is a local historic landmark in Sydney, actually. We will visit the night local historic landmark, the landmark visit. I think you saw me there. I know there are several people here from the Williams Club that watch this. Thank you, Hal. Are there any questions from Mr. Johnson? Thank you for your presentation. I'm neglected to open the public hearing. Therefore, Hal, you got to do all that again. But I will open the vote here and we are pleased to have representatives of the Women's Club here and would welcome you the opportunity to speak if you would so desire. and then there's a city council, it's my pleasure to be here tonight. You're representing the hard work of women of the Ashboro World's Club. This is a club that you can be proud to have Ashboro as a part of the name. They have been existed since 1905. We don't have any members here from that day. We need to have some members here that have been in the club for a very long time. And I feel like I should really recognize their heart where I'm introduced in tonight. That is a game of game. Kathleen Lotree, Rachel Flannis, Diane Cox, Linda Thomas, and Doris Allerite are all here tonight. As part of our 28-member club, our main responsibility is to maintain and preserve the gatekeepers' house. When it's clubs all over the United States, of which we are a part, consistently do beneficial things for the community. And we feel like, as we raise funds for this house, we are benefiting Ashborough and our own small bed. We also contribute to many charitable organizations in Ashborough, so you know, the city, the back of the house, we work really hard to be a part of the community and make Ashborough better place to live. And to that end, we support the day to your first house. And that's no small fee. You think about supporting and maintaining 135-year-old house. It takes a lot of money. It takes a lot of effort, a lot of hard work on our members' parts. We worked all day today on a yard sale. We worked all day tomorrow. And that's part of what we do in this month. We might also see our Christmas ornaments. Sometimes during the year we have historic ornaments throughout Ashborough that we sell. That money goes to maintain this house. We also sell pound cakes. And if you're approached by a $20 pound cake, please note that if you need goes to the game, you can ask her. Any help with this with that? I would also like to thank how Johnson, we have worked on this project for a solid year now to get this house ready and maybe Mr. Johnson will be in doubtable as a resource for us if we are so good for that. And Justin, I don't know if we're just in this, just as I'll also help this tremendously by giving us advice and guiding us along this way. So we appreciate your consideration, whatever they outcome, and we hope that if you ever want to have a party for social living, you'll consider to get a huge house. It's a beautiful, beautiful historic landmark in Ashbrook that I've done here be placed in here. That is your chance. That is. Thank you, Ms. Robert. Is anyone else ever like to address a council? We thank you all for being here. And we appreciate all the hard work that historic Providence Preservation Commission puts into these recommendations. Is it appropriate? I guess I should close the public hearing. Is it appropriate to ask for a motion and accept this tonight? Councilor Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to designate the Fisher Estate Gagkeeps House as a local historic landmark located at 312 linear avenue in Ashboro. Ms. Carter, we have a motion from this corner to have a second. A second. A second from Mr. Burke's. Any discussion? I'd like to make a comment. Please do. I'd just like to thank these ladies for what they have done all these years. My daughter used the gatekeeper's house for her wedding reception. We were on the porch inside under the gazebo. We were everywhere and it was absolutely wonderful. The feeling that you got being there and having such a wonderful time, but you ladies have worked hard all these years and you've done a lot with that piece of property and with all of your sales and different things that you do and I just want to thank you for what you have done. Thank you. May I come in too with President Clinton, came with the campaign a few years ago, he is on the front porch, even the Secret Service liked it. They made sure nobody could get in and out of there. The ornaments that you guys do are really cool. They've had City Hall, they've had the sunset there. Really nice ornaments. So I would encourage any of you just before Christmas there they're out selling ornaments. As I said a question do we need to adopt by reference to resolution as part in parcel of the motion and yes that's a word that's being part of the motion. Do we need to restate it? I believe the court interpreted that way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for your visit. Thank you. All in favor of adopting this resolution, my reference, say aye. Aye. All opposed, like so. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Oh. Okay. We will back up to any. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Okay, we will back up to any any it. Feel free to leave you won't disrupt the meeting if you are so inclined. By way of introduction over next week or I've got I've got a little paragraph I'm going to read. Rick Yolred, an Asperer native, has had an interest in history since early childhood. His work with local history began when he returned to Asperer to work in 2003. The idea for the walk through the past tours at the Old Scent, Asperger Cemetery, again, with a lunchtime stroll with a coworker or shared his curiosity about old cemeteries. An unusual gray marker prompted an effort to find out something about the person that's buried beneath it, later than Molly Preston. Conversations about the story led to an interview with Chip Walmick of the Courier Tribune in June of 2008. Following the publication of the interview, Mrune of June of 2008. Following the publication of the interview, Mr. Alruve was asked by Representative of the Mayor's Appearance Committee to tell the press and story at their gravesite. Responsed to this event, the SUCCS and Mr. Alruve began conducting monthly tours generally from April to October under the auspices of the Asperer Department of Cultural and Recreational Services, a service that continues to the present time. In addition to the walkthrough past tours, Mr. Ovid also speaks to civic and historical interest groups, and venues across North Carolina and presents lectures on local history topics at the Randolph County Public Library. We're pleased tonight to have Mr. Oliver here to break the city council on his programs. We thought it was timely. Invitational we know I know you had over 80 people last Saturday, I'm sorry for considering veterans' date, and another 30 showed up at six o'clock and even expecting a different time. So, though it was very popular, if you've never taken one of those tours, I would say that you really ought to try that sometime. Mr. All, step up to the microphone and, and break the council on your hard work, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you all for being flexible on the agenda. I was teaching in a banking school in New York, Carolina at four o'clock. I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very I had just moved that what you walked to the door. He was peddling this bus seat. We had to have a two o'clock on Sunday and I understand another ample after work, but we do have good response to these walks and this is my fifth season as I call it of doing them. And we have had as many as 160 come out to the Civil War and prompts the most interest and gets the biggest crowd out. I have helped with that and this more like a program, the Ashbrook community part joined in and did song from the town here and had honor guard from the sons of the veteran's chapter and they did part of their remembrance ceremony. So if you've heard some gunfires on the afternoon, what would they have been doing in the ball? What would you have been doing in the ball? But that's just one of the series that we've done. I knew these two went to leave. During the temperance, it was always a piece of the summer and of the cold and the winter. But we generally gathered the game. I'll pick out about 20 or 25 folks or I call them residents that we're going to visit with. And I'll do a little research ahead of time to try to learn their story. And then we just walk around and talk about it and tell us some words. Sometimes I try to do a theme. I've done, you know, World War One veterans or people in public office or, you know, people associated with railroad, that kind of thing. Sometimes the things just happen as I do the research like I would have done one on people who died on a birthday. You would think that there are a lot of people in there that that's true. People who are murder victims, there are a number of those in there. And just some other things. And people share information with me as we walk. In fact, I usually keep a note of that. The jot down future idea. In fact, I usually keep a note of that. The jot down future idea. In fact, I had one gentleman point to a marker one time. He said, what do you know about this stuff? I looked at it dream, so I'm not another than what's on the tombstone. And he said, well, the family story is that he was murdered in a brothel here in Nashville. And I said, well, I don't have a story like that in my collection. And so starting just with that tombstone and his recollection of what somebody had told me about, it's a research and found out, sure not, that was basically the story. And then the episode was a real good place in 1880s and it clearly demonstrated that what a bad idea is to mix up all women and farmers. In fact, you probably, it's not a good idea of mixing women and the issue of the bill today, it's a good idea to do that. In the off season, two or three years ago, I started doing some programs in the last few years. In fact, Hal was talking about the British captains. I did one program about the two that are very over there. If you're over there and notice the little wrong arm enclosure, one inside any closure we're going to do where two British captains are buried. So I've done a series of programs indoors about that. I'll do something connected to somebody I've met over there so I'll speak and do some research and collect some photographs or take photographs and sometimes I'll visit signs for things that happen and put together programming. Do that at the library or some other venue. Last winter's topic was the last public training in Nashville. And we did it at the old warehouse and the room was full. You know, nothing breaks a crowd out like I am. But that was very interesting. Again, things I had never heard before that was like a warning. Sometimes we talk about leaders, sometimes we talk about people that will probably not even know them outside their family. Some of the graves over there have had flowers on for decades after the first time died and we have one grave on the program that I that when we're probably the first people to intentionally visit it since it was closing on to the group. So as the mayor mentioned, I've had opportunities to speak to other groups, civic groups, retirement homes, and times about me to speak, present this book for purpose. And I get visitors from all over this far North Carolina, they're not just extra-ranked people, I have folks from that degrees, for Hillsboro, and Troy, I mean all around, but people come to hear these things. And the best thing about it is that the, you know, cemetery is a place that we talk about local history. And there are not many, many opportunities to do that in a first setting. I think people really need to really do it in that. In fact thing because I've had people, you know, reunite with the classical classmates they had in Stanton and just having a run into that. There's a lot of good comes out of that. I think the cemetery is a real asset, a cultural and historical asset for the city and I would encourage all of us to be real careful in preserving the look at because I think it's a very valuable time. And if y'all would ever like to do a tool, be happy to leave this group over there sometime. Just let me know. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you and if you have a question, be happy to try to answer. Last couple of hangos was in 1879. It took place at Mosson Motor Group, so it's time you'd drop by there. It's about that. Any questions or questions? You want to do it the same weekend in the month? No, it varies. The one we get last time today is actually the official. It's better for more of a holiday in North Carolina. So we'll probably get close to that date for the Civil War wall. But no, it's largely a functional one I have time and why I can get the recession out here. We'll try to do that once more. What's the oldest marker that you can find out there? The oldest one is for a little boy who died in 1843. His last name was Drake, John Drake. The cemetery, actually, it's, it hasn't always been a cemetery, it started out of course it's a graveyard. Somebody, I think, was at the difference. Well the graveyard is part of the church property and so that was originally the graveyard for the Methodist of the Church, of course Methodist is with the Noah now and they were on that side until 1927, not believe it was. And so all this graves of the ones that were associated with the church, and if you get out, the city cemetery, I guess it was a new part of it in 1903, the North End was all what it was. One or two buildings, the first methodist, one or two, were they there and burned and rebuilt together. There were two on the side one that was built probably shortly after The Congregation Park one and then the other one was actually built I think about 1903 And it was only used about 20 years Folks you heard mr. Orin say he did a little research I Would have bet that that's an understatement. He does tremendous research. Countless hours, I'm sure. Are there other questions that Mr. Orrit? Anybody in the audience have a question for Mr. Orrit? Well, and in year 2010, our city council decided that there were people in this community needed to be recognized for various things. They created an award to recognize individuals that had hands the image and reputation of the hash borrower. Well tonight is my pleasure. Step right on the table. I hope that's pretty good. All right. And my pleasure tonight to make a second presentation of the Ash Borough Pride Award. And we're just tickled that we're able to give this to you. We believe that you certainly deserve the Ashford Pride Award. We have a beautiful play Ashford Pride Award for the day of March 2012. We don't give these out to just anybody. We hardly pretty religious. You certainly deserve it. You have gone beyond the College of Duty and And I know history is a love of yours, but the way you share it with our community makes it a passion for everybody else. Thank you. We also have the Black, the State of the City Hall, the first recipient of the National Pride Award was, Susan Harrell who destroyed the mural force, the art's guild mural, and then painted two more So there's an arrow who destroyed the mural force, the art's guild mural, and then I need to more with the train and the polar bears. And both of these individuals have really exhibited love and pride in their community and wear. So fortunate to have people like you in our community. Thank you very much. Okay, we will return to item 7, item 7, a two text amendments for the Ashburazoning ordinance, Mr. Evans. Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor, members of council. These are text amendments to the May I open the point? Yes sir. As you progress in this work, you're going to have to remind me when you stand up there. I count them. Okay. A little sign. A little sign. Over here. The applicant in this case, these text amendments are being initiated by city city staff so the applicant is the city of Ashburg. The topics that we're looking at in the oil and seeds that are going to be one of the districts which are operating a light of commercial districts. We're looking at some outdoor lighting provisions and updates to those, and also provisions for solar farms, which I'll hit to that concept, which I'll hit that concept. Just either a number of different sections of the zole warmness and being a bet there's a body's disposal minimum. The first set of items and reference to household animals. What we're proposing is eliminating section 314-8 on the z the zone wall, which can turn household animals. And we're proposing eliminating that due to some recent amendments in the city code in reference to household animals and pets, just so that we don't duplicate regulation in the zoning world. And I do want to point out what we're proposing would not affect scale rules or veterinary equivalents or anything about nature in terms of commercial activities associated with the zoning rules. The next item that you see in your package as in reference to the historic structures and the provisions are to ask and what the river is for going to use for structures. If they're designated as historic landmarks, even through an action that we saw just a few minutes ago as a local historic landmark, I don't know if you'll be, this is a landmark commission. We're, we're also have a historic district that's designated by the state historic preservation and office for a national park service. We are also proposing some amendments. As I mentioned, looking down on sign issues in the OA6, which is the Office of Department of District, the ONI Office of the Chiefs of District, and the B1, they were good commercial issues. What were proposing would allow a smaller monuments, outside, within the first 10 feet of the property in those districts. Currently, our other commercial districts allow a sign within the front 10 feet of the property. The OA6 and ONI had been warned that districts do not, but were proposing an amendment just to offer some additional flexibility within that first 10 feet, where it assigned to be incorporated within the Frontyard of Landscaping, just as it could in other issues, to allow a small monument style sign of up to 16 square feet in those districts. And I will point out that just as we have in our other commercial districts, the sign would have to be located outside of the right of ways and have to be located outside of side-disappearance and The other provision Also proposing just to give some more flexibility within those districts We'll allow a second-minutes style signs if districts will allow a second-mon you install signs if the property had a used 200 feet of red fringe which we we allow in another commercial district if there's a now the red fringe or width that's in excess of what you normally would find we do do allow provision, allow one additional sign. And instead we're proposing that, and that issue as well, for some greater flexibility. We're also proposing some amendments to outdoor lighting provisions, which we feel, which are with flying and industrial commercial and residential zoning districts. When we fill those, I have some more flexibility in terms of the type of lighting that's provided, but also offering some additional protection to joint properties. Just to begin, we're proposing some definitions to that section, which include definitions for flood lamps, floodlights, wall pack lighting, emergency lighting, and we're also proposing some modifications to the definition of full pet-off pictures, which we feel are easier and more user friendly for late-close. The other provision that we're providing is a purpose's been implicit in our work. We just want to make it a little more explicit that the lighting standards apply when new lighting is added to the property when there's new construction or when there's modifications to existing lighting fixtures. We're clarifying that if there were to be a change of use and there is existing non-conformal lighting that that will be permitted to remain. The lighting doesn't have to be retrofit with new lighting just when there's a change in use. But any new lighting we have to comply with the requirements of the women. One of the major provisions that we're proposing is, is in how we address the foot candle wells of lighting. And foot candles is a measure that deals with the intensity of lighting. In foot candles is a measure that deals with the intensity of lighting. The foot candle reading may be, if you're staying in the right room, it may be 10, 15, 20 foot candles even. As you go away from that light, there's a quick reduction in the light. So you may have tear footage between the foot candles right under the light and it may go down to two or a half of the candle or less at a property one. The current requirement is two foot candles at all property boundaries and public rideways. And that's at all property boundaries regarding the zoning at those boundaries. What we're proposing would reduce that maximum foot candle from two down to a half foot candle. At residential we zone boundaries just because we feel like the residential properties need greater protection in reference to the intensive life that may be intruding on to property boundaries. What we are proposing is eliminating the maximum bookhand of boundary if you have two commercial properties, except that the max, there would not be a maximum bookhand of measurement between commercial or industrial zone property We're also proposing leaving the maximum of two foot fingers at the public right away, just leaving that as is. We're also addressing someisions for solar farms. And when we're talking about solar farms, as I'll get to in just a moment with the definition, what you see in this illustration, what a solar farmer's box is, the solar use property for generating solar electricity to be sold back to the utility for the power grid. What the Nigerians, someone who simply puts a solar panel that is at home for their own personal water heating or their own personal power, electricity generation. And the same situation would be considered an accessory if it's a commercial property. If the business puts panels up on the roof for their water eating or electricity, then that's just considered an accessory use which is an example from the chemical screening requirements. So we're not addressing those we're addressing the sole use of property. I just want to make that clear. And you see that's a specified under definition that it is a utility scale commercial facility that uses sub-weather energy specifically for the convertible sunlight into electricity by federal, by-fotic, or by-fotic, it's concentrating thermal devices. Warmerries, experiment technologies, through the purpose of the primary purpose, the wholesale or retail sales engineering electricity. And again, the use of solar collectors for personal or business consumption that occurs on-site is not considered a solar property. Even if a business or property gets reselling that energy back to a utility as it's actually used, we're only talking about the solar use of the property to that purpose. We also have included some other proposed definitions that you see senior reports of the intake system along with solar collector and solar energy. In terms of where we would propose permitting the solar farms use, we would propose the solar farms by rights within the industrial districts, the high one, the high three, and we would propose allow these not special use in our 40 issue. We're more likely to have the larger land transfer for there may be a greater demand for the consumer and some of the other residential districts. As far as other positions for proposing the address of the homes, we also propose a clerical reference to the unit in Section 3, OCCA, the screening of mechanical equipment. Again, that's to clarify that the buffering is required for the solar farm use. That's specified for the perimeter of the property, rather than requiring screening and buffering around each individual soldier. We should be able to do their purposes, clarifying that situation. And also we're clarifying the setback requirements of the plot to solar equipment and structures just as they would any other structure. We're also proposing a provision required hand-out of liquid coaxing. And would you have an audience that's a very standard requirement in looking at the industry specifications for the units that keeps any sort of glare actually causing maybe a visual situation for the people who are in the public right of why they work for a joint practice. The distinction, one of the main distinctions when I mentioned that, so far as being permitted by a riot in the industrial, the last special reason is that, excuse me, being permitted by riot and industrial and by special use in the season being permitted by riot and industrial and by special use permitted in residential. One of the main distinctions as far as the requirements of what we're proposing is isn't the buffering around the perimeter of the property. In industrial districts because of the solar collectors being in looking at other industrial uses and being a very, what we feel is a low intensity kind of industrial use. We're proposing much less buffering in the solar farm located in industrial district, and only if the solar collectors locate within 100 feet of the property made. For your landscaping we'll be required again to soften that visual impact from the right of water. Where we're proposing much greater buffering is within the R40 residential dish where we're proposing a 50 foot buffer around the entire perimeter of the property, which will be either opaque vegetation, existing mature woodland in that location, or no paint type of screen, along the 50 foot perimeter. So there is quite a distinction of what we're posing so that if a solar farm does propose located in a residential district above where you will help solve the need kind of impact in those areas. Okay. In looking at the text amendments, in looking at our goals and policies of our land development plan, for guidance, there are seven goals and policies that staff feels tend to support the request. And none which we feel are negative to the request. And overall, staff's recommendation is to approve this request and for the record, will re-recentage. That is that staff will use the proposed text amendments will approve the administration, clarity and flexibility of zoning ordinance, eliminate conflict with other regulations, offer regular precision in aligning zoning regulations with the protection of public health safety and general welfare and increased protection of historic integrity properties. The cleaning board review, review this case, and also the recommended approved group. The very last statement you'll notice on your staff before is a consistency statement, which is a valuation of consistency with our adopted competition plans. In a statement of reasonable and close public interest, this is based on North Carolina General Statutes in recent food case, which is just straighter by the beginning of the happy state within our tax amendment and a map of them with reports. And that recommendation of that state that he is, his staff believes that the request to amend the Texans' only words, its consistent with the goals and policies of the land development plan as identified in this report. And the Randolph, came with his toward landmark condition in the ordinance, and his reason was supporting the public health safety and jail welfare. I covered a lot of different things. I'll be glad to answer any questions that we can play have at this time. So go ahead. Could you give me a piece of property that you've talked about putting a second sign, just an example of a piece of property that you would be thinking of to have a one sign and then have a second sign. Block plan. Yes. Block plan. Yes. We come back to sign on the side of the building. Yes sir. That could be a very good example as far as that is a property that does have, it's in a B2 but it does have the frontage that is required to have a second sign in that case. The proposal in the OA6 that would be one district would require a single log to have 240 feet of a grade frontage. If, along that same grade frontage, there could possibly be 4 individual logs. So, there could be 4 signs if those were on individual walks. And so what we're proposing is once in a while have 240 feet of broach, then there wouldn't be the second monument style sign permitted. And you might work. I think some of this has been driven by there, particularly as Mr. Johnson was mentioning a few minutes ago, up here in the center part of town, it parts this kind of transition in Cox Street, South Main Street, sunset avenue. We have large lots, sometimes at four or five hundred feet wide, but they've got two or three buildings on one lot. So they can have one sign, whereas across the street, you could have three lots in that same four or 500 feet, you could have three or four signs. So they're under, so without having to subdivide and then have all new driveway connections and particularly on DOT streets like South Cox, in this case, or South Maine, Maine which is ours and then sunset or personal up here in the middle of town or Fatal Street you could then better use your road furniture and that's kind of what's driving that too and we've had a good portion of these amendments other than the solar farm have been driven by BOA cases too which people are coming to the Board of Adjustment were a variance based on a heart sheet. It really shouldn't be zoning that out. So they have to come for a virus. Yes, there's. I thank you. John was mentioning the consistency of across our zoning districts. Would it have the same road front, and I know there's, like, a corner lock. Two different road frontages, or is it a, so if you have a corner lock, you have two, I don't even know two monument styles for one bench. A long bench have two or 14 feet in front of you. Right. That would have been, you have to have that long. One in the words you would have to have the two minute when you feed along one particular roadway. Can I pull up my mic? Mr. Belm, regards to your question about the corner line. There's only one that's currently states that your limits in one sign were street frontage. So in the case of the corner line, you would have two street frontages, and you would be committed to size while these fronges as long as they're not facing the same direction. Any other questions from Mr. Hamlet? Question with John. I know that you said some of this has been driven by some of the cases that have kind of a force. Is that the same thing with the our lighting system because that was something that that wasn't issued that we did change sometime back? Yes, and if John could go back two or three and we've run into where we have a go back to the one more John where you had the pictures. I think you had yes, yes. Our current ordinance in helping up on Ron John calls for a full cutoff fixture, but if you go to electric supply houses here they don't have them. What's the define? Help us define that. So what we're trying to do here is reach out and use, just get the same effect and that would be a hooded lamp that just signs down. With just requiring an angle, we can get them on the local economy. We can keep the same thing. The lights don't have to be special ordered. If they're retrofitted buildings, you can use flood lamps, etc. And we won't have the enforcement problem we have now, too. Isn't that right, John? That's correct. And prior to the requirement for full cutoffs, we didn't have a specification stating that the lighting had to be angled down to a certain number of degrees, such as in this case, where it has to be a, you would propose that it would have to be at 45 degrees or in lower, or in the case of a flood lamp where you have to light within the glass. And take a glass envelope that has to be at 60 degrees or lower. And in doing a lot of research and looking at some other cities, I support that really really well. And then here is a street city law center. And when you know there's this great technology, having that nature in there makes the ordinance a lot more forceful. Yeah, so we. Good, Mr. Luck, you have something to add. Yes, and Mr. O Oggers point about the board of the justices we have to we've had two very spaces one is for sheets in July and he played us this for hasn't been for Verizon and was an issue there is where you had two commercial businesses they share an access drive, drive between them. Sevens built it. They're having, limiting to the light to two point foot channels between commercial properties, particularly when you have a shared access drive, is really impractical. It really combats the interconnectivity to the status of the surrounding courage, the standards trying to encourage, and it is also not good for safety. It's better to have these access for us when you not only have to vehicular access to the possibly pedestrian, to have those more adequately lit and therefore, the standards proposing, allowing a higher foot camel between commercial or industrial properties? Since you mentioned cheese and the flip side of that, I mean part of that is between the two commercial properties. But there's also a proposal here to drop it from 2 to 0.5 when it abuts residential areas? Is that important driven by issues at the property line as it joins the residential area? They're joining the sheets for the particular reason to drop it down otherwise. I would say the sheets is the main reason. It wasn't really a particular case. I think it's more of looking at other cities and how they regulate, particularly the city of Raleigh. The reason we pay for Raleigh is because their line of ordinance was originally adopted in the late 90s. And they are currently undergoing a new update, a totally different, you know, by the bell of the ordinance. And those line of regulations are pretty much staying the same. So they have, was stood in the test of time. And we feel they've been on those for 10 years, but relatively no changes in their working right as well. And also it works towards our bill. We want to want to protect our residential neighborhoods. So we're lowering the foot candle when the commercial property does the joint residence. And also keeping the 2.0 foot cams at the right leg. Those are our two chief objectives. One, protect residences, instead of going to play there and live at the right leg. We fill the foot cams, we'll do that. As we're providing more flexibility between commercial and industrial and really increase the regulation where it truly matters and that's why commercial and industrial thought are present. One other question, and this has to do with the solar farms, is there a density on the property like, and if you have a, how many you can put on there, how many, I don't know what you call them, solar panels. Is there, do we have any type of density on that or is that an unusual question to ask? I think we would still have the setbacks. And interior to think that'd be more driven by the mechanics. Once they meet the setback, they can do the whole, everything else, 100% is a whole panel. And we've not had any of those requests yet. We're just going to getting ahead of the heard. And there's been a whole debate. You might remember when this quiz was beginning to work, it looked like the energy usage set our own progress energy won't buy power. You know, they said that a couple of months, Council go won't buy power from a solar farm like that. But Duke will. But at this point, nobody knows if there's still going to be two companies or one. I will say today that the public utilities commission in Raleigh has approved the latest that the citizens, the rate payer, will have to pay for the merger costs. And so we'll have to see what happens, what the Duke progress merger and see if one of these actually happens. As John mentioned, we don't really expect it to happen in the city limits mainly because of the industrial uses and it'll be much more valuable to have a factory on the industrial piece if you are a property owner. But in our 40 where there's a large track who knows four or five years from now. Okay. Is it any other questions for staff? Thank you, Miles. One question. Is the flood light spot lights that change? Is that a from what we have been doing in the past. Yes sir as of 2008 our ordinance was amended prior to that it did a loud flood light. Okay. But we feel like there was an standard that we could go out and measure as easily as this one that is really designed to eliminate any sort of glare problem because we're doing the same. The standard is very easy to get out and measure and the floor blocks will be easy to adjust. I think we were also expecting a light that wasn't about you. Just block it. Just block it. It's not in the market. Okay. Thank you. As anyone noticed, I would entertain a motion to adopt the proposed amendment says presented. There's a letter by May. We have a compatibility statement. What you can do that is one motion but in my statute and some guidance we received from the federal courts. The council does need to expressly, which we decide to get. If you decide to approve a motion, the council does need to expressly, which avoid the side to get it, if you decide to approve a motion, the change also expressly to state the council is adopting the technical system to state the court. You disagree with it, did you expressly disagree with it, and they could think of it from you going? And what the state has put before you, so it needs to express it out there. If you do with the motion, then I'll handle the end. to express the doubt with. If you do, we'll have a motion. Can I handle the item? Okay. Mr. Marra make a motion that we adopt based on recommendations of staff that can pose text amendments. And expressly agree that it is compatible and consistent with the public interest. Second. We have a motion from Mr. Bell and the second from interest. Second. We have a motion from Mr. Bell and the second from Ms. Carter. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, like sign. Motion carries. Thank you. Item B, seven B. You're on a forward recommendation. Thank you. Appreciate your work You're going to follow the recommendation. Thank you. Appreciate your work. Look forward to the next one. Take one second here. Thanks for being here, fellas. Good luck with your work. I'll go for all of your work, sir. We understand. Okay, John, go right ahead. Yes, sir. This is the floor of the Planning Board member, Pitchet's member subcommittee. The Planning Board subcommittee met prior to the planning board meeting on Monday evening. They actually had a total of six candidates. You have their information on the leave in your team of athletes. And the subcommittee was just very impressed to see just the level of interest in the fact that it was six candidates. They felt like all of them were very well followed by. They did in up selecting two, or your policy or your review to see that the cleaning board also voted almost to enormously agree with the subcommittee recommendation. And those two candidates are Lynette Barnett and Philips Key. Thank you John. So Mayor tonight, Council will receive these. You've had a month to vet these two recommendations, and we will choose one next meeting. You may just remind the council that, remember you said as both the legislative panels and quasi-judicial panel, this is clearly a legislative matter, but you can't talk amongst yourselves about it. Remember you can't. You can talk to Mr. Groner, you feel free to call her or Mr. Schene ask some questions. You can ask me or ask John, but you know, you got to make the decision as a counsel at the June meeting. So just. So, individually, you have their applications, you've got those come prepared at the next meeting with an idea of who you prefer and we will proceed. Thank you, staff. This is the appointed time for the public comment period. There's anyone in the audience that would like to address the council on any areas of city business or concern. Okay, but would comment is hereby closed. Item nine, bunker, consideration of petition received from James P. Hill, Jr. and Pamela L. Hill requesting We have a motion to adopt a reference. I will be read up just by reference. Motion by Mr. Baker. Second. Second by Mr. Burkes. Any discussion? All the papers say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Mr. Bunker. We have a resolution to fix the design of the public area on the question to that annexation. The next regular meeting, where two, seven, and twelve, there are obviously a couple of new motion to adopt a reference. Move on the adopt from reference to motion. I have a second. Second. Second. My name is Chris Sawyer. Any discussion? I will say aye. All right. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item 10, John Augburn will present. Senator Sitton items. Thank you. Item 10, John Auburn will present same citizen items. Thank you Mayor. Just want to like to counsel know that we were selected this week as an official look on our certified retirement community to let us in your packet. So what, well, unless it worked. It's come to this fruition. Well, I think the members of the retirement community done all the work and I guess now the hard part again, but this is the first step. So are we the first after the pilot city or the first to be after the pilot? Yes, okay. So Lumberton was the pilot program and now we're the first one since his death. So I think that Sutter City was in the back to where it's going up in there, right? program and now we're the first one-centre staff. So I think that Sotter City was in the back two or is going up in there, right? There's been an application that's in the house of Sotter's R.A.P. and not the people's in the process. So where the, so there you go. Now the hard work begins. We want to thank Ms. Fletcher for the application and all the committee members and I thank Mr. Johnson and Mr. Denskirak, thank you Mayor Mutton for your work. Casey, thank you for your work. Yes. We'll process it. Why did it work? Okay. Next time. Mayor, we received a request for the senior centers for a 500,000 a hundred year for five years a hundred thousand a year for five years Council just reminded it's across the street right here to acquire and rehab at Memoracary plant for three So to three and then glass of three We just mentioned last three. I would just mention. Full record. The commissioners did approve the same request. Two weeks ago or three weeks ago, the right now, county commissioners. And I just remind the council that originally this program will set aside as a 501C nonprofit continues to be that that way with so they could receive your nine-and-white bonds and other gifts in kind or gifts of service or gifts of cash or whatever And probably I think we have been Ashbroost been part of their organization since the get-go But I think you moved in the facility in 79 or 80 somewhere in there And so um that is the request. It's up to council at this time. Council does pray to do that. I mean, the reason I'll be finishing the budget this week and next week and we'll put whatever you allocate in there and end it out to you at the 17th. Do you have room in the budget for this? Yes, sir. One way, I think the council, the big decision for the council has, as Mr. Zensky and Mr. Johnson and Mr. Willhoet who were here testified last month was, you know, they looked at other locations. They actually acquired property down by our futures new city park. It just doesn't work. The desire of the senior citizen just bored, the senior citizens capital campaign committee, the city council, the county commissioners, and their customer base, their service, their clients, to beat town town, to have the facilities downtown, to take advantage of this opportunity to acquire across the street based on whatever else has happened downtown with the energy. I don't know if you folks in the audience or the council came, Sunset Avenue tonight, I mean there's not an empty parking space anywhere. And following on with the retirement community having first class senior facilities is one of the goals, one of the objectives. It's also one of your objectives in your strategic plan, twenty year plan that sometimes we forget about but we do chip away on a little bit of time. So the long term good that property will serve the long long time, a lot of serve, all of us. I think staff's okay with that recommendation, not all at one time. I'm not saying a $500,000 gift July 1st, no, but a 100 spread over five years, a 100 to K for five years. And then we would also remind the fundraiser committees in Miss Frisinski if the council did choose to do that, that the obligation then falls upon them to raise the rest, to do the funds that we expect the funds to be submitted for a capital process, not the operations of the senior center. Is that good for you, Mayor? It is. Now, I'm gonna step outside the normal order of business and just ask if there's anyone in the audience and we've heard from the campaign staff so I'm not asking you to speak but if there's anyone in the audience that would like to address the council regarding this issue I'm going to allow that. Now where's your time? Okay, thank you. Council, you know, this is a lot of money. It's a tough decision and we've been kicking this around for quite a while. I think we're ready to make a decision. We have the recommendation, the request and the recommendation of professional staff is their emotion. I'd like to make a motion that we proceed with this supporting our senior adult center and that we do this in a total of $500,000, but $100,000 a year for five years. a year for five years. Mr. Suggles, that's a patient motion. Yes, sir. Would that follow and also the manager's recommendation to be for capital leaves? Yes, capital, it's a prescription. Yes. Okay, we have a motion. Do I have a second? Mr. Mayor, I would second it in part and just I know this is probably more in terms of the comment or debate about it. But in part because it is adjacent to our downtown, it's part of our revitalization, downtown reutilization of what would be vacant industrial property. I will say second to motion Okay, thank you mr. Bell without a second from mr. Bell Certainly now is the time for discussion Do we have the money Over five years we have the money we could not make a $500,000 contribution in July or August. We can appropriate 500,000 over five years. Actually we've been doing that for the last five years but the hospital had one. Yes we prepaid the hospital. We've done the hospital, we've done hospice there, paid the only outstanding with cleared Pimp Cove, Rick Pals, down south of town. So all we have outstanding now is multi-milt and that just goes on. I mean that's many years ahead of us. I'd like to make another comment on this. I think it's a wonderful opportunity in our downtown development with the number of senior adults that we have as well as I cannot imagine operating out of the senior adult building that they're in now. I've been in there many times and the place be packed for different programs. And there's many more programs with the new direction that they're going in that they're going to be able to offer. And in speaking with some folks that have come to me, some of their concerns have been that Randolph Community College has stopped doing some programs that they were involved in like doing quilting and things like that because there's no room down there So this is the the prime place it'll have excellent lighting excellent parking and it'll be in an area where People won't be afraid to come in the evenings things like that so people won't be afraid to come in the evenings, things like that. So not including that they expanded the A, Drama Logan's room, because I think we now all fall in under that. But I just I see so much that can be done with the Acme Recreary Building and the fact that that's vacated now in the downtown area we don't want to see that building just sit there in deteriorate yeah the staff we can't find it and from a policy wise standpoint and from a policy last standpoint. The council, going way back, I mean, to, you know, to the mid-70s and coming forward, the council always spent, this was an important program and set of policy goals to have a fully active senior adults association. However, the council felt that a private nonprofit could do a better job of it than a government agency. Now, we could have run it through our own rec department. But we, Jonathan's going to stand up here in a minute. We got our bet all the grace we can say over right now. OK. So I think we're getting retained the bill. Any other comment? We can get our time. Okay. So I think we're getting the bill in the bill. Any other comment? Yeah. Yeah. Back to the bill. Just to close the record. We do. The building of the senior adults in that one Wayne Avenue. At Wayne, the avenue does have it is dated to the senior adults association with the reversing clause that it comes back to the city if they move out. So it will revert back to us with the long term, we have some ideas to use that for our own services to make them more efficient. So I think in the long term, we might achieve more than one policy goal that I've done with this. Yeah, okay. I'd like to make one more comment, the fact that we have worked for a whole year, and I know that my year's been involved with all of those meetings to become an official North Carolina certified retirement community. I think fits all into the plan and will offer this make this retirement community even more of an enhancement with having that senior adult building. Instead of squished in this little tiny place, I won't say that. No one knows it. It's my wife will attest in my private life and then in my business life and then my public life, I'm very conservative with spending dollars. I don't spend dollars just for the sake of spending dollars. I do like making a good sound investments, and I think this is a good investment in our community and the city and the county as a whole. So I would encourage us to go ahead and move forward with this. I think that's the right thing to do. Well, I'm ready to call for a vote. Let's do it. Do it. Okay, do anybody else that has comment made? If not, all in favor of the motion is Ms. Carter presented. Say aye. Aye. All aye. Aye. All opposed by sign. Motion carried unanimously. That was a time to assemble in process, but we got, we got the area. Good luck with the rest of your campaign. You got lots of work to do. Thank you. Thank you. Definitely don't leave you and I want to ask you a question here just a second. Okay. Next item, Chief Smith. I want to pop her up. Notice the federal buyer's case with you. Make that presentation for you. Make that presentation point. May I remember the council 24, just a few words a year. That's some grant to it that I talked to you a little bit earlier about. And I went into a lot of details with forward and back into the history of our grants. And we're trying to make one of how hard these are to get funding. And this is going to highlight that a little bit. It would like to point out that so far we have had funded $635,000 in salary money for six positions and we have had funded $177,000 for computers with them. And of course we have some matching funds in the building. Two grants that I mentioned to you earlier that were in the process. One of which was a regional grant. And this is through the assistance to firefighters grants for the 100 megahertz radio equipment. A year ago, I knocked down a fire service doing together and received a grant. I was sure of that and I had a value of something like 25,000 dollars on the radio equipment, which was a very few small boxes. We all often can't be finning that once you receive what they call an initial grant that you would be very automatic approval for grant to the college. Of course, from now on that, there's a lot of big winter countries that have not yet gotten their first round. So round two's are out of the way to the to be prepared somehow on the land security to push in for us to have interoperations nationwide. That's not going to happen overnight. I also had mentioned to you that we had a grant request for our free then equipment, self-convain, free then equipment. The total of that program was 311,000. Federal Sheriff, that would have been 280,000 on our sheriff at 31,000. That one was just recently designed. But it does show a lot of my work was saying we've received several grants already, getting close to $1 million in funding. This one has with all grants, they get it through first, they they computer through you if you pass that it goes on to peer review and that can be in two stages peer review and somewhere in here you'll watch and it comes to a state level peer review and made it through a whole of that. And according to their job, I get them all the time. I think what has happened here, and it's pretty much the same way with the regional radio program. We were asking for breathing at the level of the Colesville, about 26 things every cylinder for the breathing air, really far down, 15 year lives. We will both do request agreement because not that our equipment is covered 15 years old, but there are few standards that we do not think we have seen. They are fully aware of this 15-year-long day. And FY 2011, the AFB program received approximately 16,400 applications. It was at the request of funding. And I think we got right to that one for the wire to get him a Spanish stuff with his grandma. I think all these peer reviews, they know we have a little time left. They stay. With that in mind, Mr. Norther and I were talking about it, we the girl here probably around the gym this year. This grant was opened again, so it was a twenty-coyote request. So we're going to repeat it. And again, it should remain in the neighborhood. They have met on this one, the other program was around $30,000. That's kind of a good indication that he could dinner tonight and talk to his own fellow and he came by a late hour and didn't even know he was in his place. And he said, we're kind of granted to get it. I thought we really re-forged milling report that we did begin on. But it was to replace all of our breathing equipment and we do want to re-apply. And I don't know about making me think that I said, I'm going to say, do you think it would cost for us to replace all of CBAs. He's an aspect of beer in $30,000. That's how much it's going to change. I was at 3.00 in the last hour. And also we have some requests and budget over fire trucks. And everything we're doing, we're trying to look at the head toward a third location. But if the 2012 AFG grant is structured the same as 2011, even though we know as very unlikely that we would get a fire truck if they allow us to apply in two separate categories. We would like to try to get both our breathing equipment and go in but to truck me. No one is much likely going to get turned down. I just want to be sure it won't affect and cause them to turn down but breathing. But, however, they would still have one more year as far as we started there. And maybe we'll get back. But we want you to know where we stood up for the phone and make sure you're entering with us continuing with all of these things, because there is always. In most cases, 10% might. By the way, we do have a new grant submitted for another three people. We can get that one approved. We pretty well set to start operating three stations. And going on from there. But it would be a while before. Any questions? Chief. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. to proceed to Mr. Mayor I move that we continue in the grant application process. Second. Second. Second. Second. All the favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Good job. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Bale. Uh, Mr. Schum. Item FOIA. Uh, prohibition of overnight parking downtown environment market facility. Yes. I'm sorry. Item FOIA Prohibition of overnight parking downtown farm of market silly. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank and writing the ordinance that those things can be settled before we actually bring forth an ordinance to. So just time let me draw section A because that required approval. I'll join in your judge. Any objection on it? Okay. Item B. B, you know, why I'm sitting in a service agreement. Several months ago, we were approached from the director of the YMCA, possibly entering some collaboration opportunities between the Y and the city, named with the Recreation Department. The goal of which was to further benefit the citizens of Asper with the things that we couldn't do with the things we only have. The latest proposal, I think I'm guessing, slides here. John, did I mean what's in there? I'm old school. I'm not that old. I'm old school. I'm not that old school. I'm not that old school. Just for minor council, where they did receive, you know, a request from back up to that one. Yeah, this room, I mean, the one that kicked off this whole debate was, did receive a capital request from the YMCA for the appropriation of their construction of additional space. Remember, we had a special meeting out there and went on a tour and built all of what they've got now, that was 14, 15, 16 months ago. And that's kind of driven this debate to this point. So then, for that all to be a story. Very important. And also just to refresh the all's memory and I'm our master playing, our former master playing, and the comeback in 98. It calls for the parks and recreation partner with other agencies, with a very familiar knockoff, the second organizations that include the water. It calls partnerships with the hospital and development health and fitness programs facilities. It also calls for the development of interactive water features in parks for a splash pad. And currently we do not have a splash pad. And we put that up there because the master plan called for that. And really in a town this size, we don't need to splash pads. That's a tremendous demand. Remember, it's a lot of experience for a short period, three months. And we really don't intend to compete with any nonprofit agency. We don't intend to compete with the seniors. In the latest version of what we have discussed with the Y, these sources are only for city residents. And that city resident must show their city issue red bar through the R city city resident. But the Y is willing to give us splash bad hours, Wednesdays, Wednesdays, Wednesdays, Wednesdays, Wednesdays, Saturdays, eighth to one, Sundays from one to three. They're paying the exact same city rate that they pay to get in our swimming pools. Sunday's from 1 to 3. They're paying the exact same city rate that they pay to get our swimming pools. Another thing that they're offering us is city retrohose, we see the five-dark discount, all their summer camps. Now a memory. Other now a memory. That's correct, yes sir. They offer us this during when our pools are closed. Our pools aren't helping from Memorial Day for mid-August. So this would pick up and allow city residents to swim in their pools with the Y for that same rake of paid our pool. Obviously, May, on series and Sundays, the hours listed there. And that would be an indoor pool. pooled lots, they're using the journals off. Those winter months, we got that to happen. And then they've also offered gymnasium time since we do not have a gym. We use the schools for our programs. But a lot of citizens who win, and shoot basketball, in their gyms on Wednesday mornings and Saturdays, as well. in their jams on Wednesday mornings and Saturdays as well. And this is sort of what they're asking the city to just provisions back to offer those things to our citizens. Which is I think sort of the same thing we've got with the school system from the opposite. Now, that the last lot of think it is in. Yeah. Oh, there's, yeah. So we wanted to begin this discussion tonight, Mayor. I want to put a couple of reasons. It'd be, obviously, you've seen in the paper where they get the capital campaign for the wide made it request to the County commissioners. I don't know if they're gonna fun that or not. I mean capital campaign people can probably give you better Dead than this. What we tried to do on our end is tried to build take our master plan which is adopted take items in our master plan We don't for example. We don't have indoor gym, we don't have indoor pool, even though our master plan calls for all that. The splash pad, which our master plan calls for, or a pool play area, and then tried to build a framework out where we could develop a relationship like we have with the schools. You know, one of the reasons why City asked for this size does not have a rec center, and if you go to Lexington or Kingston or Shelby or Salisbury, they do is because we had a long-term relationship with the school system and it's the same tax payers. They pay both facilities, so we're trying not to piggyback on any of the facilities. Everybody's heard about the Macrary Gym and it was built with war profits, profits from World War II, and they know it's owned in the employee's recreation association, that's right in the giant. And you know it has to revert to public ownership Something happens to more career. Well, we don't want anything to happen to career It's just the opposite. We wanted to continue here in flourish and We know so we've tried to build some relationship with the why That we could work out from there might be other programs we could maybe do in the future They could manage our pools for us since they have the indoor facility for lifeguard training all year or we could do competitive programs and they could maybe do coach picture, T-ball and little league where it's more instructional. So we're trying to build here. I don't think the end goal is any of these particular issues. We're really at the start of building maybe a different partnership with the Y. Jonathan and I and Felix who couldn't be here tonight on vacation and they're doing to thank Jonathan for being here. He's kind of under the weather today. So we drug him out. And it was, uh, stand on outside all day Saturday. Um, so we do would like the council's permission if they like this concept to kind of move forward and hammer out the grid and I don't think any body in with our rec cars going to play basketball at 6 a.m. on Wednesday morning. You know what I'm saying? But there might be some things we can hammer out with that. If like this concept the staff didn't want to get too far ahead of the board of directors of the Council of that why and their capital campaign committee or the city council in the and obviously we don't want to run the council so this is kind of what we've hammered out is an idea how to build a partnership this more long run. The staff and the thing we've discussed with each of you has been kind of concerned about giving money to a non-private, non-profit, then which you have to join to get your tax money back for it. Which, be clear about this, the Council can do that. We're not saying you're not authorized to do that. You're authorized to make public expenditures. I think the staff feels then the long run to hammer out a better relationship where both interest are mutually served is a good way to take what we need and what they need and work it out. Some of the board members mayor I think have been on the wide board of directors that's about board members or the capital campaign. I think Dr. Fount was on the Capitol campaign. Mr. Schler, and that would be an appropriate time for you to tell us what you need to tell us. Yeah, in the interest of public disclosure to the council and to the citizens of the Vashboro, I do sit on the Executive Committee of the YMCA. There's no financial remuneration received for that. It's a volunteer position, but I do want to make sure one is aware that I do sit on the exact committee of YMCA. And I thank Mayor, you know, from the, again, the staff's perspective, a lot of city employees or Y members, including our own public sport. And so, you know, in town this size people start wearing a lot of different hats. So is where are that? We also have to be careful mayor in the workout area, the weight room, that type of thing. We do have private companies, businesses here that are in that business. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no tax dollars to compete with them. So if you notice we have it we particularly excluded you know weightlifting or those type things. Now they can go use they have treadmills we can go use the track at the high school and we can certainly walk the fitness trail at the Y that's nearly built. We're just tonight to kind of get an idea if the council likes a framework of hammering out some mutual shared agreements. I know Mayor, the chairman of the capital campaigns really worked you pretty good and we need to communicate back that to the capital campaign people if they like this program. And in the long run, I think the citizens can be better served as well as to why members who may be citizens or may not be Can be better served with this program Time can do you have anything to add on that item? Okay, have a seat for just a second I'm gonna do the same thing here. I did for the senior adults. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to address a council regarding this consideration? Come on up, state your name for the record. Well, this is not a normal time for that opportunity, but because it's such a big decision and something that we've worked really hard to try to craft, I thought I should hear from anybody and something to say. Thank you. Very nervous. I'll take your name for the record. Any rest in. I used to be the membership in Marketing Director at the last right here and so on and I have several of y'all. I do have a couple of questions. I'm not quite sure how this will be good for the members of the last. If city people are going to be able to come in for $2.50 with a red card, and I'm not a member of the last, are they going to be able to have, are they going to give them $250,000? No ma'am, that's not the proposal. Are they all giving them, I went to the County Commissioners' meeting and Mr. Redding stood up and said, they were asking the Calming for $250,000. They said they were coming to y'all and asking for $250,000. They said they wanted to be debt-free. That was his words exactly. They wanted to be debt-free. You know that's... Well, our intent is to not. I mean, I can't even sell my nice house. That was on the Christmas tour. I can't get a job in his account. I've got three job offers in South Carolina. And you're not selling my house? I'm writing a write. This really upsets me. No, that's not our recommendation. Our recommendation is not to fund their capital campaign. So what was the water bill for the $38.00 water bill? So you're going to pay for the water bill? Well, that's... We're trading services. Trading service. And that's based on the model we currently have with the school system. So the staff and the council felt that you could not necessarily make a contribution to the capital campaign. Now the council can legally or be clear about that. But then I would have to join the Y to get to use my tax dollars. That's been a concern since day one with Mr. Redding and all the members of the capital campaign. So, taking, trying to take, in fact, trying to do the opposite of what you're saying or trying to do what you're saying, to expand our, deliver more services to the citizens, we said, okay, we have this arrangement with the school system. Can we use this same arrangement with the Y? And the school, the only group in town that doesn't pay the water bills of school, we trade them facilities for a water bill. That's why we came up with that. So can we get use of their indoor pool? Can we get use of their gym? Can we get use of their splash pad for our residents? For some fee for us. Now we don't expect them to give it to us for free and you wouldn't either. So. I don't know about a family network ship at $68. Or, what would they be happy when somebody can come in for $2.50? That's not really been this council's decision. That's the last decision. Now, they are limited times. And I mean, it's not like we're going to get our rec-card holders are going to have a free membership to the Y. They're going to be able to use the pool and the splash pad at certain limited times and the gymnasium for a limited period. So we just told them right up front, we weren't comfortable giving them tax money for the capital campaign Understand Okay, well, I just I was a prepared to speak. I'm just Do you think this is a good idea or bad idea for the why or for the city to bad? For everybody This is a good idea or bad idea for the why or for the city to bad Everybody You think it's gonna dilute their members People won't people say why I can go for 250 and swim and I don't want to play ball I don't want to work out. I don't want to do this So I just I'll just pay 250 and go the why once in a while to swim Well, yeah, I think you're just knowing a little bit what's going on there I think is that you know the Y. Why has the option of saying no we don't want to play that game you know if we don't see it as a benefit to us as a Y organization and you know we want you to give us money if you don't give us money then we'll you know we'll just keep on doing what we're doing. Well again but that that's that's what you're they have option there is a a given take in that regard is that granted the water bill may be forgiven but they're also opening their facility to people. And like I say, it's why would they want to do that? They may not want to do that. They may look at it and say, no, we would rather have the potential to drive membership as opposed to allowing a rec-car person to come in. But that's the wise call. Let me ask a quick question here, Mr. Sermon. In those negotiations and discussions, once there, I think I heard something about a six month trial. Yes, yes. Okay, so at any time, either one. Mr. Preston, did you have anything else you'd like to say? I didn't think you'd get a personal one. Well sorry, we understand, and it's exactly why. Exactly why I want you to have a lot to the space. I'm sure you want to space it. I just have one question. You'll have to come over here. I identify yourself on the microphone and ask your question. I'm Patrick Rath and I live in the city and the county. So my question is this water bill. I think it will be free. Does that affect my water bill? Well, I have to pay more because of that. No, ma'am, that's not the case. We don't anticipate we bill this year. We bill up on the rates. No, ma'am, we're going to bill this year. Not for that. No, I mean, if the wine does that affect the water bill rates? If you do. No, ma'am, if we were to, if the council were to get nothing say we're going to give you the water bill Just how the goodness of our hearts starting July 1st we bill about 12.5 million a year so no ma'am that wouldn't affect your rates in fact No, ma'am no ma'am now that doesn't mean your rates won't go up over time. That didn't make an expensive That's right. No ma'am, but our biggest pressures on the water system right now or a pretty chemical cost and delivery and maintenance of the maintenance of the infrastructure. $38,000 annual, we probably lose more than adding pipes that lead in the city and the county. So I get a double dose of tax and For any of this recreation stuff doesn't benefit me at all because I don't use it What you're gonna do? Because I use it I've got my own agenda. I get out of walk I read the bill outside So it issues in my tax money and I'm here now Totally self-sufficient now. And I've got a lot of time on my hands, so I decided to come and find out now that Kelly and Hannah was sitting is operating and how much they're doing. My money. I understand. You'll see a lot of things. We'll welcome you to keep our own. I will, thank you. John, we shake your bed here, Mr. McGrath. It might be no worthy since the property tax, I have rolling tax fund is different from the one or something. It's not the same part of money at all. And on a fixed cost basis, it will not change our cost at all. Yeah, and we, I think the council, and Mayor Smith, as well as Mr. Ward, Mr. Sermon and myself, have the same concerns you do. I mean, we all live in the city, we all pay our water bill, we all pay our city tax, and county taxes too. So, I don't know what you got the federal stink on me too, it's not looking good. access to. So that was what the staff and the council have been having now. Is there an exchange? Some group of services for another forward expense that you don't have to pay again for. Because one of these days we'll build a gym, one of these days we'll build a splash pad, one of these days we'll build a gym, one of these days we'll build a splash pad, one of these days we'll build walk and trails or whatever. Thank you very much. How many wrecked hard people do we have? I made it almost 1900, I'm a state of state of honor, and I was just gonna tell them, I'm gonna leave. Okay. Oh. So, Americans, we're asking tonight, it's not necessarily that this is the correct agreement, but if you like the framework of trying to stand our rec services and merge with the Y, some way, if you like to build on the existing model of the relationship with the schools, if you like that, we'll continue to hammer it out something. And we would recommend, if you like that, we get something hammered out that we do draw up an agreement, a written agreement. So, Ms. Graath and Ms. Prestman, other people's concerns as well as the why I might not like to deal actually get into it. We just don't know. I'll turn it back to you now. Other, any questions or Mr. Cerman, you can have the microphone back? Any notes and both? Any trail questions? Anything that you want to know that Mr. Cerman has not or will have not discussed? We're going to construct our staff to over the place. That's a good one. Okay. In some senses, take this there. Yeah. I like the conversation about exploring. Lost built in the wild for right in the city pools during the summer too. I think that's a fit for highly intensive but temporary service in the heart of the discussion. And I believe staff has some concerns about that. We just have some concern with the timeline getting it in place for this soon-exseason. Okay. Well, I'm against the wall that things we have to do. Get the position. I'll show you a week to put this over for next year. Yes. All right. Keep that. You know, put that on your notes for discussion. Anything else? The Experi-State within the legal clerk will generate that council has no objection as the general consensus of the council of negotiations for receiving this general framework. It will also be very clear that the staff is not authorized in the meeting final agreement, but will then back the council to the very specific positions for your final action. Exactly. I hear by comfortable with that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, Mr. Sherman. Yes, sir. Item same. Municipal pool hours. Your next slide. You all know, I'll put the folks in our position. The policy manual, which you all adopted. Every year, we must come to you with the proposed swimming pool schedule. We took any considerations and things. If you remember when I came before you last year, the more pool defendants was down. We'll try to do some programs to help you set up some. Some of them worked, some of them did. The public lapse was a huge hatred, it grew continuously through the summer. And then we also gained a senior population that wanted to come here and have public lapsed with them to just being the pool. They didn't necessarily swim. A lot of them just got the little floats and just float around top to each other for an hour and a half. But I like that. I like that. I like that. This was the goal. for an hour and a half. But I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. So what we have done this year is that, you know, if we might have worked well, we dropped some of the things that didn't, and that is the thing that didn't. And those things are based on what we heard from the public, our paper and the speedback. We had several adults come to us. They didn't fit in that senior kids they want to spend time for adults so we were able to squeeze some adult only time in here and also with hand hand with all swim lessons here the bottom we have so good to want to learn to swim they don't want to do the swim with that so that's with a four and five year right so to help them with that shine us we've been able to create their own time there as well and then we're trying to get some some of the young people back. We've had some teen swim time and that one was slapped around Mondays that Monday mayhem is what we're calling it. That's something not to finish, it then becomes a pool and play organized games like a pool. Water basketball, water ball, just some different things to try to get some people back into the using the water swimming pool. And then North saves the same. That goes to capacity almost every summer day for its county five degrees. So we didn't make any suggestions for changing there. But like I said, we did do some things with the water to try to keep those numbers growing like we did last year. That's like the level of knowledge. What, after getting there, yes. We have. Yes. That's good. And it looks good. You can Those numbers were all like the last year. Sounds like a lot of knowledge. After they knew they were still. We have. That's good. And it looks good. You can tell me the question. Just I may have just a quick. The lessons that we teach and provide is our feet for that. There are offers of swing lessons. Yes. The necessary cover materials and certificates. That's all right. OK. Is this requiring the action? I'll leave you in the change for schedule. By your ordinance, if you don't take any action. The likes ever have. Okay, good. We've been to Madam Deke. Deke is. I'm going to submit some progress reports on the sunset later. There's some dates. We've got this month, advertising, and the plan in the least large. Preventing the meeting is also this month. Those for questions in June. Will the visit you day or June the 29th? And then as you can see, the 60 days out from that is all with the 28th. It's a Maywe we've received plans. Mr. Bunker has checked them one more time, just a couple of comments left. We are in the process, if we have not done it today, it'll be done tomorrow of notifying, has required by federal law, all of them. This is the Advantage Business Enterprises. We're notifying them if they're listed in the North Carolina Middle Middle District, so that goes all the way from Charlotte to Raleigh to West and Salem up to the Virginia border. We've advertised as part of the DBE outreach in K-Possa. And I think actually the career runs Sunday, is that right? Didn't want to. It runs in this Sunday. Mr. Cooper, our architect, will put it in AGC and we do expect a lot of interest. We've had a lot of calls. I wonder when it was going to be out. So we're getting pretty close. Mr. Bonker, Mr. Luck and I have to appear in the middle of this month at the historic commission and show them the plans that ran off historic commission. We have sent the plans to the state office of historic preservation. They had one comment about the mint windas will change that. So our fund raising continues and our efforts continue. So maybe in October, sometime we'll have a go dark party and we'll start building the thing. How many is it rejected construction time? How much did the anticipate? I guess 204 days. Yeah, about 10 or 11 months. It's not quite a year. And most of the works actually, if you think about it, and we'll take the Reveal Commission back through one more time, a lot of the works demolition, you know, taking the wall out, taking the ceiling out, so you can see a lot of the intense work will be in the theater room itself, or the theater itself, the center panels to get up top for the heat and air conditioning upgrade and the electrical and plumbing upgrade. So it's getting close. On the friends at the library, what's that gonna do with them? We worked out that project with them will actually build a hallway For them and they'll stay open during this process I mean will they continue to be in there we got to no they'll continue to be in their space and will they get back The area where they've had they've been able to store some of their books Yes, they'll be a hallway put through there, but they only lose like Space and not much and it actually There will be a hallway put through there, but they only lose like 20- That will be a relation space. Not much. Not much. And it actually, doing a better job of managing the inventory, let's put it that way. Now, and that's been a great relationship with those guys too. I don't know anybody knew when they were in Old House. They even knew they were there. And now, Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, they're selling a lot of books, so we're not scrapping them out. And the money goes back to buy books. Okay, but the other question. Okay, thank you Mr. Chairman. I appreciate you being here tonight. Let me say that I thought the cultural recreation and cultural resources department did a great job Saturday with the Street Festival. I'm sorry, we're not one of many. Well, you know, this is your busy time of year. There's something in the park every, just about every weekend. And you're putting in a lot of hours, your staff's putting in a lot of hours. I appreciate it. You're doing a good job. Thank you. Okay. Item 13 is, I wonder if mine reminder of a special budget meeting on May 24th at 5.30. May 4th, move on. Can we possibly schedule that 5 o'clock? Well that can complete with anybody. There's an event that night. What? Instead of again at 5 o'clock. You're doing that favor? Yeah, we'll be. Yeah, some of the chips. Okay. Um, yeah, five o'clock. Okay. So we can finish about their works for you. 63640. I mean, Jeff, that works for you. You're the one has to advertise it. Okay. That works for you 636 40. I mean, Jeff, that works for you. You're the one who has to advertise it. OK. I'll show you what it's known as we can have it. OK, power clock. Jeff, everybody correct that on your notes? Power clock. I'm going to go up here. OK. All right. Oh. In your packet, there's a lot of events between now and I'm going to go you over. You brought that then? Are there any items that you discussed that are not only agenda before I go over to tell them? I want to have a council directed to have a Charles Salahaus on the road. It just might have cleared up the hall. He's throwing out the wrong time. He's better makes it the odd. He's better makes it the odd. We made that correction. All right. Okay. We need other items, not only the general. All right. Let's say here, Saturday, most day we have tickets for the Chamber affair at the Davis Farm Asper housing authority Tuesday night joint meeting. Only 20% for 20 seconds, sir. For Mr. Swerzel, thank you, Ben, before the having authority has us twice a year. I've got my invitation. I have RSVP. I told him I missed the first one. I told him I was a big mistake. You have a flyer. You have this blue, green flyer in your pocket. May 21st, 22nd, downtown designed and development workshop. Study that, look at that and see if you can't make time to be there. This is important about the future of our design and zoning for downtown particularly. The budget workshop we talked about that. June 6th, town hall day, everybody's registered. If you can't go, let us know quickly shortly. That's a Wednesday, man. That's a Wednesday, June 6th, town hall day. And that is a very productive day. I don't know. I think there's a morning and an afternoon session. We'll get in touch with you. It's substantially. Really, the morning session. Yeah, and it's substantially shorter this year than the events from last year. Okay. Ribbon cutting tomorrow at 10 o'clock. Anybody happen to know where that is? Yeah, I just saw it. Welcome to the place out of 42. Oh, 64. Oh, 64, yeah. All right. 30 knots of wind. Oh, it's near, probably not. No, I'm going to draw your attention to this. So newsletter that was in the water bills this month. And that is first class. It was very nice. Casey, you couldn't put it together without the input from the departments. I know, but you know, it has our summer concert schedule on it. It's got the farmer's market promotion. It gives you some helpful tips about Greece and sewer problems. And it promoted the Ashboro Criterion, which was a really nice event downtown Ashboro this weekend. I just wanted to point that out. That is a nice touch. And all possible because we went to the new billing system and are able to do inserts in our mortar bills now. Touch, it's just pretty nice. I've probably all recognized that. You may have people just hang that on their refrigerator they got. They'll hold the concert schedule right there. Yep, first concert. It's Sunday week. The attractions and if you haven't heard them they're great. Okay, start down here Mr. Sawyer's. I had the pleasure of viewing at the Pass Road Remedying the retirement community slideshow. They did a super job, impressive thing. And again, my hat's off to Casey and her, all the work she's done getting this thing going forward. The retirement committee has set up a kind of a speaker's bureau, Ashwood volunteers, and the first presentation was David Karin from Hospice and Casey went and did the technical part of it the slides and all and I'm glad to hear that went well. Very good. Very impressive. Mr. Bale. Unless Casey gets a big interview I had a chance to review the first annual report. And I think that's a nice touch. It gives a lot of information to the citizens and the Bay of the Long Line. I wanted to view it again, just make sure it's the same. And I've put us to John and staff putting that together. I think it's valuable information for the citizens. So interesting information and calendar year. Most of the numbers in there were calendar year. The feet of sidewalk replaced was impressive and since January we've done almost that much more or maybe even more. We're making some real progress on repair and renovation of sidewalks to coincide with our walking program. But Ms. Carman. Well, I just wanted to say thank you to Jonathan. He ran all over the place Saturday. Every time I turned around, I saw him going somewhere or standing there viewing everything. And I want to thank you for the working on the schedule for the memorial pool and for working, you know, adding that part in there for the memorial pool and for working, you know, adding that part in there for the seniors. I encourage you to find a way to advertise that to the seniors and maybe it's the letter because I think that's just a wonderful opportunity for them. Also, I wanted to thank John and Justin for working together as a team and keeping us moving us into the 20th century on some of our things. And I know that's a lot of work for Jeff because he didn't miss anything. But I just want to thank the staff, all of you, the Police Department, Fire Department. I'm just so impressed at every meeting with what we have. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Carter. John? Mr. Mero. I'll have anything else to add other than, you know, we are coming on our busy season. I think we'll have, as John said, I think, starting maybe two weeks ago the direct department. We all know we can in the farmers market start Saturday give. We officially opened last week. Okay. We're open Tuesday. Tuesday and today. This week we've been open three days. It'll be the vendors that we come in and we just encourage you to go to our town. They're just going to encourage you to think back to what that parking lot was for we fixed it up. Encourage your neighbors because you know it's the chicken in the egg. The vendors won't come if we don't have the people and the people won't come if we don't have the vendors. So this is important to us. We have a good market here, but bottom line is, every town on has a market now. The health department has one on Wednesday morning. And- How's the middle has one? Yeah. And so, when vendor picks this stuff on Wednesday, it takes it to the health department market. They may not have anything to bring to the Thursday market. So we got to make ours the best market it can be. So I have to have people to make that happen. Mayor, we have two new professional employees in the RAC department, Olivia. And Eric left Eric went to be the head of the Harrisburg. He got a chance to move up in Olivia and now works for Park for College. Not any more or? No, it's any more. See what Cornelius do work in their city administration. So it's just last week. It's last week. All right. And then we have Shay and Cory, Shay Trog and Cory Sullivan, who were in turn with us in the past. And it's come back to us. Where's the door? Is it at the end of the world? Yeah. Great. Great. OK. Mr. Baker. Oh, wait. Mr. Bunker, Happy Birthday this month. What day? Saturday. Saturday. And Joey and John Sack, they had one yesterday, they were I'm sorry, Mr. Baker. Well, tonight is Jonathan Felix and others. Thank you, Knight. Folks, if you participated in the senior games, they are the ones that run that program. And they are to be commended for but outstanding program they do. Thank you. The praise keeps coming as I was helping habitat with the pick out in the park part of the art mayhem. What you guys your staff did just tremendous I mean it just float so we we got rid of almost all our barbecue this year. Oh, I would have taken some. Oh, we only had a pan and a half left that we ended up giving away at the end of the day. It was so usually we were begging people to take food. So it went really well this year. Hopefully we raised a lot of money. Haven't got the final tolls yet for habitat. But from top to bottom, you know, as we've been saying farewell to some folks at retirement, we have the best city employees. And we don't miss a beat because good people coming in right behind on the takeover, you know. And so it's just, it's just a pleasure to be here. And, and some people that you don't see 12 unless you have some health problems or or Janet and a net. And I've been seeing them regularly and Janet today was running out of supplies. As I said, do I need to mention that at council meeting tonight. So John Janet's out of supplies. Yes. They do a great job. Thank you Mr. Burke. Mr. Hunter. I just want to remind everybody that I want to Saturday, May the 19th, and the first time I remember relayed the life of a hill in historic downtown Ashboro. Maybe everybody come out and walk an extra survivability here, everybody. Good to be interested. It is a Saturday night this year. Saturday night, five o'clock. Yeah, we're gonna do one AM. All right. This is from Austin. Well, it's certainly been a pleasure believing in the employee service award and thanks to everyone just a public service announcement of the interfaith and the detailed situation Friday night, one one-line needs way Saturday, detailed, Monday through Friday night, then we're going to open it up for relay for life. See anyway, big congestion for the next week or something. The Sunset Southbury, an off-and-jest to the big congestion of Pellets Creek. You got a 200 day from October? Obviously. He's ahead of schedule. It may cop out sometime in the future. We all resurface that, some of that again. The whole thing will be. But Northland dial, they, they, they're going to take the bridge deck down off of the Oklahoma of bridge. Remember last summer of 2010 that we did press on straight. I didn't think morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning