All right ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to call this meeting to order Monday made of 15th, 2023. Welcome everybody. Thank you so much for attending the night. We've got a little bit of a a long agenda so you know we'll work through it as fast and rapid as we can to make sure we take care of all details. To start with the night, I would like to ask our assistant manager for every George Feudal to do an invocation and lead us into play. Would everybody please stand? Let us pray. It was a problem. Thank you for the beauty and glory of another day of life, another day of opportunity to serve you in some way or manner, and we thank you that we are public servants. And we pray that you will continue to bless us more in our everyday activities. We thank you and praise you for the fact that we may have been able to do something good for someone today. We thank you that you allow us to share your love with others and love that you place in our heart. We pray to your Lord that you bless our President Assembly tonight, that you bless the elected officials to make the decisions that affect the county, the things that come before them tonight. And we thank you again, I always like to thank you for those of us that have an appointed positions who are already carrying out the policy that they set. And we want to just thank you again to the Conservatives and the citizens of Duke of County and to thank your blessings upon all of our public services, first responders or please keep them safe. And we just just thank you for this day that you made. I pray this to Jesus in the eight years. Amen. I pray to Jesus to divine the United States of America and to the Republic for which he stands on nation, on the New York, in the visible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Mr. Futre. Anybody have anything to add to the meeting agenda tonight? About you, Mr. Davis. No, sir, Mr. Chairman, other than the fact a Miss Angie Quinn from soil and water will not be able to be with us tonight But she is sent mr. Billy Ivy who will be standing in for her okay All right, I need a motion to approve the agenda for tonight Got a motion I got a second you need a further comments Here none all in favor say aye in animals All right other comments here none all in favor say aye. Uh huh. Inanimals. All right. That moves us into the minutes from our main first meeting. Everybody afraid? I need a motion. Motion to approve. Second. We got a motion in a second. Any further comments? Here and then all in favor say aye. Inanimous. All right that brings to the consent agenda. What's the pleasure to board? Okay I have a motion to approve the consent agenda. A second. Father discussion. Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed. Here. Okay. That moves us into the first item of public comment. You don't mind. Please go forward to anybody we have. Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, the first person who signed up for public comment. You don't mind please go forward anybody we have? Yes or Miss Chairman the first person who signed up public comments I believe is Miss Dorothy is it cotton? Yes. Dorothy cotton if you come to the podium Miss Cotton so the microphone pick up your comments. I had a piece of land survey last July and it was approved by the lady that was at the building planning and then Mr. Twig's got a name and he did not. It's family land, three generations. I just wanted to have it passed down to my children. I have two sons and I had a survey where they'd have an acre each once, like a flag, and the other ones acre. And I'm having a lot of trouble getting it done. I was wondering if there was any way I could get in assistance. Because these want variances for the road to go to the side, which is no way you can put a 50 way right away because there's a house there, it'll go through. And there's no way you can make the land that acre there where the first house is. Any water, it's 93 across the front. Because if you do, it'll go through the other house. Do you have any idea? Not without getting more details into the property, but we can look into it and see what the issues are. But as far as giving you an answer tonight, there's none of us can give you an answer tonight. I was going to take your information and check it out okay. Who would I give my information phone number and all that to? If you would just give it to the county manager Mr. Davis and then he'll follow up with giving us what we need to do you okay? Yes sir. Thank you. Thank you. Put that over here. Right your phone number and your address. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Love you. I'm going to get the rest of it. Yes sir. Thank you ma'am. Okay. Thank you Miss Cotton and whenever he gets all the stuff to us, we get the chance to all others to review it. Somebody will be getting back to you with your other options. Okay? Yes, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it. You do say, do we have anybody else? Mr. Norris signed up for public comments, but he's on your agenda, so. Okay. That brings out a number two you, Mr. Terry Nars. Good evening. How y'all doing? Good. How about you, Sam? Good, I'm good. I wanted to start just a short open statement before I began. So I think most of you received some information, previous to me coming about what we were going to talk about. And so I'm going to try to just hit an overview of what you already have. After we get through, I'm going to give you a public purple folder with a package in it that I'd left for you to hold on to and look at later when you have more time. And it's about a subject that I'll passionately be pursuing the conversation with each of you's individuals or board members at a later date. But the nots topic that I want to cover is one that we went over last year and it's about July the fourth event and I want to thank y'all for the interest that you took in it last year and this year be our third July the fourth celebration and the founding the foundation in the future the long-term success of this event is going to depend on whether the county stays involved with it and involved with me, particularly our county commissioners and the sheriff's office and our Christian presence, specifically the church leadership and the businesses in this county. That's what it's going to take for it to remain successful. And the letter that I gave to y'all as for the agenda, it covered the successful history of the event up to this point, the attendance that we've had. And it also covers in detail the relationships that we built as we brought together church, politicians, entities of the county government and businesses. And then it also covers the plan for our growth for a planning committee. And we want that planning committee to become members of all eight towns within Dukeland County and someone from all 13 town ships so it truly becomes a county event. It also has in your package budget for this year and effort that we put forth the past years we've met a $22,000 budget just through donations alone every year from businesses, churches, the county leaders helped us last year with a grant and also the site plan that I've introduced to Matthew Baldwin who we have pre-approved depending pinnacle on some decisions I'll make and one of the persons. So there's two things as a result of that overview that specifically that I'm going to ask of the Board of Commissions. One, there is a quote of $1,423 in some few cents. A cost cost associated with the cost of the site plan. Where last year we held it inside the fence at the event center. I understood that cost very well. This year due to the parking lot being put there in some other restrictions, it's not going to be large enough in an open enough facility to hold if we have six to eight thousand people. And the first year it didn't rain, we had that many, and with the advertisement we've got this year, there's no doubt we're gonna have six to eight thousand people. So I had to plan with Matthew and some others, we looked at it and the road frontage where the sign is, there's a nub acreage if everybody brought a tent and had four people to a tent, but ten, we could still accommodate 10,000 people and the food trucks and the bouncy houses and all that goes along with that. So all we will be using from the advanced center is two things. The grounds located at the very front up there which consisted of the driveways and we've worked out that with Matthew and law enforcement how that would work and the second thing is that they said they wanted to provide trash removal for us, which was understandable. But that's the only two things that we would be using actually from the event site. We don't need an events planner. We worked out the parking lot for the concerts for the event center last year and showed them how to kind of carry that out. So we don't need nobody to help us park or any of those things. So that's one thing, one of the reasons that I'm asking to eliminate that cost. The second is I'd ask for you to give us a letter of endorsement this year. I've never asked for that and we've never done that for two reasons. One, it's attached. Sun of the funding is attached to churches and religious organizations. So to ask a political body, however emerge is not attached to any religious organization that's overseeing the event. It's a humanitarian five o'clock one-seed nonprofit organization. So a letter from Yall would help project just thing into the future to become a truly county-wide event. And that was my goal the whole time. But, and I hate to compare because once you start doing that you always have to run something else down so I want what I'm fixing to say to be understood the contrast and not be comparing but we have a lot of duplicated county events that the county supports we have the rodeos theicated county events that the county supports. We have the rodeos, the food truck round up, the county fare, the blue brewing queue, festival, the musket down festival, and I've attended all those and took my grandchildren to them and their great events have a one thing that sets this event apart from any other event on this scale that we have is the intention of it. And the intentions and the motivations behind this event are ones that most of you and I have in common, it focuses on our independence and the God who we give credit for all associated things with those freedoms and individuals and as our nation. And I know that if I was to ask everybody here about their fate, just as we prayed, it's important to us. So I'm trying to create an event that is a direct reflection of what's important to this accounting that we don't have. We don't have an event on that scale where we've got 8,000 people attending a Christian event that reflects our values and beliefs. And so I did not want to develop this event. Some of you know that it was tried at one time and it's saddened that it didn't work out and I finally took it on three years ago. And to this point we've been able to successfully do it. And the only reason is because of what I said in the beginning. Remember wanted it because y'all have been behind me to past years. Number two, the Christian businessmen in this town and the churches who have helped sponsor it. And we need more of them so we can make the event more because 65 to 70% of those attend our children and so the budget keeps continuing to grow because of the massive amounts of children now just like tonight standing before some of y'all and the exposing of vulnerability about a godly vision that I have for this county, some have told me that's an obstacle. And there's a lot of response that I've had through the years and people told me that I couldn't do. And that they said, well, you can't have something centered around, centered around God bringing politics into it. Businesses and governments and churches, they said it's impossible. Well, we've done it two years now and had great success. They said you cannot put God with politics in business. They say everybody's concerned with their own agenda, even Christians. And then they always tell me this, when you can't expect all things from these different entities to come together, give money and time and receive nothing and return. And I've heard this more and I've always had the same question, what God or they refer to that has not, cannot or will not make this happen. I believe if we're obedient to him with faith and trust, it makes all things possible. And I like I said before, I believe most people in this room, if you were asked in, they would say that they put their faith and trust in God Almighty. And with he not wanting to display it in from our county with a decent order to display of his values and beliefs in an event like this. And so I want those two things that I asked for, one that dropped to $1423 calls the events free to the public. So we make no money. We balance the budget every year. While it is not balanced, it has to roll over to the next year. Last two years we haven't had quite enough money and emerged as put in what was needed to finish the event or whatever what we needed to do. We did because I think the event was worth it and I think the children and the families that have attended this event would say the same thing. So I've mentioned two or three things that go together. I've brought God, politics and businesses and evangelistic organizations all over the one umbrella to put a cross-centered event together at the center of how people view our county. And trust me, I've got a lot of things I'd let it go skeen and do, but it has just become a burden to me to make this work, along with God's help. And the people were randomly like y'all and others so they had continued to encourage us and the planning committee to continue. So I appreciate you allowing me to to finish speaking out and part of the gently defending the issues of fate that need to be addressed openly in a public form. I hope you will honor the planning committee and my request to alleviate this $1423 burden on us and then a letter hopefully acknowledging that you would love for us to continue this vent and hearing Kenan's view and making it a county recognized event worth value of having every year. With that I'll close and I'll let the lead these read you for later on. Mr. Chairman, that's okay. And you've been met your own convenience. That's going to be about a subject that I'm going to be passionate about later on in the year to come. And I thought it was best for heads of wait please that so if there's not any any okay hold on there just a minute be uh before I ask the board for any type of action or no action when is the deadline that you would need to know from us to be able to carry out. As we as I said we raised donations for the money. So the quicker we know the less burden it had put on me of asking people for money that I don't need. Right now the budget's at $23,000. Over 50% of that I've already spent that we really hadn't garnered all ever just because you had to buy our fireworks and stuff way in advance. So the quicker would be better because it saves me a lot of trying to ask people for many that we don't need because I try to balance the budget. I don't want to raise 23,000 and then in August, you know, helped me with the 1423 and I've already raised too many. I'd rather have a balanced budget and cause we're very transparent. So the sooner the better but not rush, not the not, you know, but the sooner the better. Okay. The board you offered, his request, you know what he's trying to accomplish. And you know, we can take it in for the discussion. We can take action on it tonight, or we can move it to another time. So what's the pleasure of over? I've got a few more questions, but I will talk about them. I'll be honest with you. Yeah. Got quick. I wasn't here last year. These four of my four fellow commissioners were here. They knew what has gone on. I do not. The numbers that I had thought we were looking at are not the numbers on the I guess the numbers I had been told were not the numbers on the on your spreadsheet but 14, 20. What? I was under the impression that it was a thousand dollars donation, obviously first donation, obviously, about $1,000. What's the first quote? May I talk about how we got to the 1423, would you? No, you could read it here. I took some of it. It was higher than that. It was 1900 and some dollars. And I talked to Davis. I said, what Davis were not even doing it in the center. We're not even using anything behind the fence, basically. And he made some adjustments for me that he was allowed to under his own jurisdiction. But I'm asking the number that's left with after all we can do is still $1423 and that's just to take the trash off and to use the piece of ground now but I still have to pay all the insurance I have to pay the shares department the insurance for that day just the insurance is almost three grand the pay the share share departments, wherever share I have, I pay them $25 prior to this, because it's on Ducland County on property. So we're already paying for the amenities and stuff, but so we're basically paying $1423 for the piece of ground and for them to pick up the trash later. Okay. And we're supplying all the bathrooms to hand washing stuff. We're paying for everything except for those two things that I just saw. Does that help answer your question? We're getting there, I guess. Our budget for the whole thing is $23,000. That's just one piece of it. Okay. The, uh, Mr. Arson, I think it's a great event. And I think you probably can, you know, expect us to try to have work with you. But I think from the questions that I'm hearing, you know, we really want to have some time to discuss what is really happening and see how we can help you. I don't think we're gonna take action tonight. Now, the board wants to take action tonight, somebody make a motion, but if not, we'll move it and we'll discuss it and we'll bring it back and get back to you as soon as the board back to you. And I'm available for any questions outside of this. I mean, that's what I do. So feel free to call me. Am I brochuring the cards in those purple things you can get up with me 24-7? That's what I do. brochure and cards in those purple things you can get up with me 24-7 That's what I do. So I'd be glad to meet with you and talk more personable about it when Taking up these people's time again. Thank you, and I appreciate all of your time in there Like like chairman ever said, I think it's a great event My only reservation is I want to be fair to everybody in the future that may have an event like this but I also want to help people because I do think it is a great event. I understand. So dilemma. Anytime you make God-politik business in churches, so that I'm a little bit nervous. All I'm telling you is that I'm right in the middle of it and I'm on the hill and I'm on fire. I can only persuade you so much. Thank you for your time and thank you for all your effort. I appreciate what you're trying to do for the county. That brings us to item number three. Tracey Simmons-Kanigee. Good evening Mr. Chairman and fellow commissioners. So behalf of the health department I have two agenda items for tonight. The first one is the health department's bad debt and deceased right off proposal So some of the information I'll share with you guys tonight. So there's been some conversation with the Board of Health and over here with county finance and such about the bad debt deceased's write off. So currently the health department is at 10 years. So we keep everything on the accounts receivable on the books for 10 years. Back when 2014ish, when the health department took over EMS billing prior to that, we were at three years. But since when health took over EMS billing, it was made a motion to move it to 10 years just to keep everything much easier from an accountability side. So they adopted for help to move to the 10 years. So to give you a little bit of information history, because I've had to learn myself, so the 10 years is how long debt can stay on debt set off. And so, from a health perspective, I've been told over the history that collection rates after three years are quite low. And so by moving it back to three years, it would give us more of an accurate collectible amount that we may have on our books at health. Additionally, EMS from EMS and tax can actually garnish wages in such with that set off where the health department cannot. So what I would like, so I took it to the Board of Health approved at their March 9th meeting to go back to the three year on time frame for a bad debt and to cease right off. And those a minute, those minutes from the March meeting were approved at April 13th meeting. And so I would like to come before you guys tonight to ask for two things. One is that we can move our timeframe for a bad debt and to see right off for the health department back to three years and then also approval to ride off whatever the amount is prior to that's on the books prior to May 1st 2020. for all the books prior to May 1, 2020. Y'all heard the request, much pleasure to board. Motion to the school. I got a motion in a second, further discussion. Everybody clear, we're voting on two things. One is to use the three year and the second one is to approve the amount of The around all for ten years down to the three Any further discussion All right here in none all in favor say aye all opposed Carry thank you Out of number four all right, so this agenda request is on behalf of the County Opioid Settlement Coordination Group that was formed. So back from the physical year 2023, 2024 budget retreat, on the gentleman had asked for a group to be formed to discuss the counties opioid settlement strategy options. So after several meetings that we have had we came to an agreement to initially start with strategy one which is the collaborative strategic planning which is on exhibit A of the MRA that you guys have signed. Under this strategy one, it would allow for us to have the project coordinator to oversee and manage the project to further develop strategic plans and appropriate usage of the opioid settlement funds within the county and to confirm compliance with the MOA. Additionally, we would develop a collaboration group to assist with strategic planning to address opioid misuse addiction overdose and related issues as well as host community forums to obtain input for strategic planning to address opioid epidemic and duplicated county. So I would like two actions tonight. One to approve the resolution for expenditures of the opioid settlement funds presented with strategy one, the collective strategic planning and then two approve a budget amendment. Okay, you all heard the request. So move. So got a motion and a second. Father discussion. Mr. Chairman, if I would just make clear that you're adopting a resolution to direct Second motion and a second father discussion Mr. Chairman if I would just make clear that you're adopting a resolution to direct expenditure defunds So it's all included in your resolution. Do you want the resolution read into the record or not? Yeah, let's read it for the record you want to read it Tracy you want me to All right. Off the county commission is a resolution by the county of Dupont to direct the expenditure of opioid settlement funds whereas Dupont County has joined national settlement agreements with companies engaged in the manufacturing distribution and dispensing of opioids including settlements with drug distributors Cardinal, MacKieson and a mayor source Bergen and the drug maker Johnson and Johnson and its subsidiary, Janssen Pharmaceuticals, whereas the allocation, use and reporting of funds stemming from these national settlement agreements and certain bankruptcy resolutions opioid settlement funds are governed by the memorandum of agreement between the state of North Carolina and the local government's own proceeds relating to the settlement of opioid litigation, the MOA. Whereas Dupland County has received opioid settlement funds pursuant to these national settlement agreements and deposited the opioid settlement funds in a separate special revenue fund as required by Section D of the MOA. Whereas Section E.6 of the MOA states E.6 process for drawing from special revenue funds. Paragraph A, budget item or resolution required, opioid settlement funds can be used for a purpose when the governing body includes in its budget. Well, passes a separate resolution authorizing the expenditure of a stated amount of opioid settlement funds for that purpose or those purposes during a specified period of time. Paragraph B. Budget item or resolution details. The budget or resolution should, number one, indicate that it is an authorization for expenditure of opioid settlement funds. Number two, the state, the specific strategy or strategies the county for municipality intends to fund pursuant to option A or option B using the item letter and or number in exhibit A or exhibit B to identify each funded strategy and three state the amount dedicated to each strategy for the stated period of time. Now therefore be it resolved in alignment with the North Kalana M.O.A., Dupin County authorizes the expenditure of opioid settlement funds as follows. Number one, first strategy authorize. A, name of strategy, collaborative strategic planning. B, strategy is included in exhibit A C Item letter and a number in exhibit A or B the MOA number one D amounted author authorized for this strategy 74,400 period of time during which expenditure may take place start Start of June 1st, 2023 through the end of December 31st, 2023. E, description of the program project reactivity. Higher project coordinator to oversee and manage the project to further develop strategic plans for appropriate usage of opioid settlement funds in Duplen County and to confirm compliance with the M.O.A. Develop a collaboration group to assess with strategic planning to address opioid misuse, addiction, overdose, and related issues. Host community forums to obtain input for strategic planning to address the opioid epidemic in Duplen County, AF provider, opioid settlement coordination group. The total dollar amount of opioid settlement funds appropriated across the above named and authorized strategies is $74,400 adopted this 15th day of May 2023, Dr. B. Edwards, Chairman of Du Duke and County Board of Commissioners is tested by Davis H. Branson clerk to board of commissioners Okay, you heard your resolution You're still out on the floor and To the budget the only thing I don't declare five to make sure There's nothing in this to whoever we pass not needles. That's correct It's very important to me that we don't. We don't have that in the program. Some of my fellow commissioners here knows how important that is to me. So I just wanted to go ahead and fit it on public record. That's good. I am not going to expect fast enough needles. Not with that strategy, sir. All right. Any other comments? Okay, I do. with that strategy, sir. All right. Any other comments? Yeah. Yeah, I like to say thank you for doing what we're supposed to be doing as far as the OPO settlement funds, because there have been other places in the nation that use the things other than what it's supposed to be used for, like buying a little pickup trucks and different things like that. So we have a responsibility as leaders here in the county to do what we're supposed to do to try to keep up citizens safe. So thank you for doing directing some of these things and adopting the strategy. We had, I think, with three strategies. And we have a little bit of a difference of opinion about the needles. But we'll work on it. But, you know, we've got to take care of everybody. So, thank you. And that's my state. Any further discussions? Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed, same side? Carry, thank you. Thank you, go. Mr. Nate. All right, that brings us out of number five of the shot. It. Mr. Neck. All right, that brings out of number five, and you got it. Good evening. Good evening. On behalf of the Economic Development Commission, I do say that. I wouldn't have mistaken it. The Economic Development Commission and our board on thank you for your time and your attention. For the benefit of our audience, I probably need to clarify my request. It says request adoption of a resolution confirming establishment of the Dupland County Economic Development Commission, and an appointment of a non-member board. And we're speaking about an organization that I think most people would have realized has been in operation for probably 40 years or longer. And as I talk through it, I look back and clarify what we're up to. But anytime you take on a new endeavor, it's probably an excellent idea to ask yourself what is the mission and then secondly, what is the authority that you have to work by? And so, myself as well as our Economic Development Commission, we take our role very seriously. And the economic development now for about three minutes, I'm coming out to my third month, and it's essentially taking us about two months to an half months to win new our mission. The authorization became a little bit tricky not that the board doesn't realize that they work at the pleasure of this group and an advisory capacity advising myself the the county manager, and probably most importantly, this board that the county commissioners. But what we found when we went to tackle the authority, that is the authority of the board to act, only in an advisory capacity not taking on any roles or any other commitments without the prior consent of this commission. I reached out to our attorney. I reached out to the county manager's blessings and I'm happy to tell you I think that we've got it resolved. So with that little bit of history, in an effort to clarify the structure and make up of the Dukeland County Economic Development Commission, the longstanding body requests approval of the subject resolution and slate of non-member boards as the state statute requires. The board has functioning and advisory capacity to the Dupland County Economic Development Director and the County Manager and the County Commissioners for decades. Approval to recommend the resolution and the board roster will solidify the relationship between the Dupland County Board of Commissioners and the Economic Development Commission. My request at action tonight is that the Board would consider a motion to approve the resolution confirming the establishment of the Dukeland County Economic Development Commission and confirming the appointment of the nonmembers as recommended by the Acting Body, the Commission as we go. Hopefully soon after tonight, the official Economic Development Commission. So I thank you for your consideration, and I'll answer any questions we have. Okay, y'all heard the information. You heard the request. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have one other thing any day. Is there a cafe in the right there chairman? Yep. Upon review of by the commission, it was noted that we needed a further clarification. The appointment by the James Prunt Community College, it stops with James Prunt Community College. Further clarification would be the James Prink Community College Board of Trustees. And would have been said the remaining portions of the resolution and the roster of IASU approval of. Thank you sir. All right pleasure to board. I got a motion in a second further discussion Mr. Chairman if I may read the resolution read the motion once you get through with your discussion. Okay, follow discussion Okay, the motion is to adopt the resolution confirming establishment of the Duke and County Economic Development Commission and the appointment of Kenneth Smith Dean Lee and Glenn Kavanaugh each for a term to expire on June 30th, 2024. Roger Davis, Al Surles, Kevin Smith, each for a term to expire on June 30th, 2025. And Don Taber, Jake Haleway and Charlie Ferry, each for a term to expire on June 30th, 2026, as recommended by the acting body. First discussion. Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed, same sign. Carry. Thank you. All right, that brings us to item number six. Billy, I believe you got a floor on this one. afternoon. How's everybody doing? All right. All right. How's everybody doing? All right. All right. All right. The first one I have is for the Northeast Cape Fear River Section 2. Stream flow rehabilitation strap contract. Daniel Stiner for Snatchek Clearing was the low bidder for the North East Cape River section two under the strap. The contract is in the amount of 74,892 dollars. The quest of action is for Daniel Steiner, Snatchek Clearing North East Cape River section two under the strap contract in the amount of $7,488,892 and the funds are available from the North Carolina vision of soil and water. And so the funds are available. Okay. Prejudice board. I got a motion. I got a second. I got a second. Your father's discussion. Just for clarification, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. Section 2 runs from the river bridge at Chinkpant on 41 down to the deep bottom bridge on the bottom road. That's correct. Father's discussion. Here in 9, all in favor say aye muddy creek watershed and maintenance contract. Dug a shoulder of D&D construction, place of bid, plan your limestone and muddy, maintenance contract in the amount of $133,500. Requested action is to award Douglas shoulder and DND construction, the annual maintenance contract for limestone and muddy creek, in the amount of $133,500. And this funds are available through the North Carolina Division of Salt and Water. Pleasure to board. Pleasure to board. I got a motion in a second. Fulton discussion. Here in none, all in favor say aye. All opposed, same sign. Carried. Move it to item number eight. OK, this is limestone and muddy creek watershed moeing contract. Well, opposed same sign? Carried. Move it to item number eight. Okay, this is limestone and muddy creek watershed moeing contract. This is a hank bond of handy land farms placed a bid on the limestone and muddy moeing contract in the amount of $51,800. Request an action toward h Bond of handy landforns, the Moeing contract for limestone and muddy creek in the amount of $51,800. The funds are available in a watershed account. Okay, pleasure to board. I got a motion. I got a second. Full discussion. Here none all in favor say aye. All opposed same side. Here thank you gentlemen. Appreciate it. All right that moves out of number nine. Mr. George Feet Good evening Mr. Chairman and Board I appear before you tonight to request your consideration of approval of two contracts tonight. The State Division of Aviation has awarded us a 10% grant, 90% state funded, 10% county funded grant to do phase two of our airfield drainage project. And so the contracts have been reviewed and approved by the North Carolina Division of Aviation and the Dupland County Airport Commission. So we would recommend your approval tonight of a contract in the amount of $13,868 with Avcon, our airport engineering firm for the purposes of engineering services relative to this grant or this project. And then a request to approve a live contract with Riverland and Builders LLC in the amount of $210,700 to fulfill the contract to the obligations of the drainage project. Okay, pleasure to board. I got a motion and a second, any further discussion? Here and none, all in favor say aye. All opposed, same time. Thank you, Mr. future. That's you. That moves time number 13. Matthew. Feetwell, thank you. And move to the top of the number 13. Matthew. I don't look like Matthew. This is Bren. Good evening. Good evening. Next week is starting Saturday. May 20th will be National EMS week throughout the United States. And then use this week to recognize our EMS personnel. We'll be doing various things throughout the United States and they use this week to recognize our EMS personnel. We'll be doing various things throughout the week. One of the things we'll be doing as a staff is our administration staff is cooking a meal, a lunch meal for our crews that's working that day. We'll be at the U.C. about one o'clock. You guys are around. You don't want to come by. You want to be glad to have you. They'll rotate in and get some neat. We do a very other things as well But I do want to ask ask the board to adopt a resolution for claiming M S week in Duke and County Next week and if you want me to read it I can read it for the minutes or Just go ahead and read for record Whereas Duke and County Emergency Medical Services in the Central Service and whereas the members Where as Duke and County Emergency Medical Services and the central service and where as the members of the Duke and County Emergency Medical Services teams are ready to provide life saving care to those in the 24 hours a day, 365 days a year and whereas access to quality emergency care in Duke and County dramatically improves the survival and recovery rate of those who experience sudden illness or injury and whereas Duke and County's emergency medical services system consist of physicians, nurses, emergency technicians, paramedics, firefighters, educators, telecommunicators, medical volunteers, and others and whereas the members of Duke and County emergency medical services team engage in thousands of hours of specialized training and continuing education to enhance their life-setting skills and whereas Americans generally and Duke and County residents, workers and visitors benefit daily from the knowledge and skills of these highly trained individuals and whereas it is appropriate for Duke and County Board Board of County Commission to join with the governing bodies across the United States and setting aside the week of May 21 through 20th, 2023 in recognition of the value and accomplishments of the emergency medical services provided by designating emergency medical services weeding. Now therefore be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Duke and County, that the week of May 21st, the May 27th, 2023, is proclaimed as emergency medical services week. Okay, gentlemen, I would entertain a motion to adopt the resolution for claiming the week of May 21st to the 27th as emergency medical service week in Dupton County. So I got a motion and a second any further discussion? Period none on in favor say aye. You're an animal. And I've also put together a little presentation to show you guys what we do and how we what we do and how what the service consists of so we'll start off so we have we operate out of eight stations. Medic one is there in the old MS building right behind the police department there in Warsaw and Bay Street. Medic two is in the old MS building there in Wallace. It operates our aimless from there. Medic3 is right here in Chikapin. It was built right at the Hurricane Florence with the Golden Leaf money. It is right there on Highway 41 in Chikapin. Medi-4 is in Clipso right there on Trace Street. Medi-5 is in Bilville at the Fire Department on Wilson Avenue. Medi-6 operates out of the Pleasant Grove Fire Department there on Red Hill Road and the Pleasant Grove Community. Medic 7 is in Rose Hill on Pine Street. That station was moved there and set up in 2018 19th time frame and Medicaid is hearing King of the Zoo right behind the hospital in the old I guess that bill has been used for communications. Several different things. This is right behind the hospital. So we currently have eight stations. We have 32 budget pair of made-of-visitions. We have four assisted supervisor positions for supervisor positions. And the four assisted supervisors, they're paramedic on the truck during the day. The four supervisor positions, positions there on a QRV, the respond to the calls or a crew calls throughout the county, the response for day-to-day operations. We have 32, like I said, a pair of medical positions. We have six advanced EMT positions. We have 22 EMT basic positions. We're currently right now opening, so we have five paramedic openings for EMT openings and one advanced intermediate open. That's things like a lot, but that's kind of good in comparison to the counties. We have operational branch and a clinical branch. I'm over the operational side. Dr. Carnegie, our medical director is over to clinical side of things. We also have a training officer Mark Casey who is responsible for the day-to-day clinical stuff. Our annual call volume, so last year we run 11,194 calls. This year we've run at the end of April we've run 3903 calls which if you do the math we'll slate to hit 12,000 this year. Previous 2021, we run 10,610 calls. 2020, we run 9,506 calls. So you can see we're at a gradual increase in calls here and expecting that to go up even more of the next five years. So call volume, this is the calls that each unit runs versus where they're located. So, we broke our county up into eight districts or zones. So, the medic one covers zone one if they're on a coal, you know, they have mutual aid. So, you can go down there and look, medic one, medic two, medic seven, our busiest trucks. And the zones that, you know, you see the heaviest coal volume in is the south then and also Warsaw. And we're expecting to see our coal volume go up and wireless with all the new construction stuff like that is coming up down there. That was our 2020-22 there. The next slide is what we consider ALS versus BLS of Vance Life or Basic Life Saving. As you can see the green portion there is advanced life support and this is high due to we require our citizens or we our citizens we always try to give them a fair-made level assessment that's because they're paying for a fair-made level service so we feel like they should get a fair-made level assessment or fair-made lay out. And that's not always possible. If we're down the troke and we've got a staff at the EMT level and they're closer to a hospital, we tell them not to waste time to get to a hospital. Doctors there that can get there quicker than the permanent. So as you can see there, I think our ALS calls, like I said, are hired due to our paramedic assessments and then we have BLS calls at some of those rate rate, ALS calls, but not a lot of them. So this is our most of the calls or the high QD calls we go to and the number of them, a couple of them up, went out to the steamy and shrugs. We carry them to the straight, the steamy's we carry or our heart attack patients, we carry straight to a PC Our facility so that would be Gringville, Wilmington or Raleigh, the Wake Med, our strokes we carry right here at King'sville to our King'sville is a stroke center. Those are like I say are different call volumes that we have. As you can see there and I went out the overdose last year we had a hundred and fourteen recorded that was brought up earlier so that was one that I put up there. So this is where we transport to the most as you can see ECU's dupline is we transport over 90% of our calls there they they've expanded their capabilities so they can handle more types of calls than what they used to do, this is also to keep in our trucks in the county, keep them in service for the citizens of Dukeland and the visitors. Now, when we go to Novant, Wilmington, or we go to Greenville, or Wayne, something like that, you know, how far you go, you're looking at minimum two to three hour turnaround for that truck. So that's two or three hours that truck's out of the county out of service for the citizens here. So we try to keep everything in the county. We also know that well they can't. ECU Dukeland doesn't have the house of capabilities. So we have to take those spacious to um Wilmington or Golds of Earl somewhere like that to get the houses. As you also know we utilize air care to get some of these patients to where they need to go. Our heart attacks and our strokes, we have time limits on those that we have, we meet or we try to. This is our transport destination protocol. This is why we transport to where we transport. If you'll see their heart attacks, they go like I said before. ECU, or ECU Medical Center, New Hannah Regional Wake Med, and the reason why we do that is because if we can, if you do the time, which further have them there in a calf lab less than 90 minutes, well if you do the time, time we get on scene, time you call a helicopter, time they land, time you turn the patient over, time they live back up and get to where we can bring you wherever we're going. We can be there in that amount of time. We can do exactly what we're going to do other than a very minor thing. So we try to transport those people or those patients. By ground there is the quickest way unless you're in somewhere in the county that doesn't be that correct. Trauma patients, while we go through the closest trauma center, if we can manage when we if we can't we call for air care or come right here to Kingsville that means stabilize and then they climb out from there. I burn patients we call. Luckily we have a helicopter there. He goes bro that we can call on from UNC if they're not available to send another another air care aircraft. Obviously I was a pediatric injury we used to bring those here to Kenya's Hill, but there were the PD covers got kind of Spoddy at best. So now they go to the orthopedic hospital Wayne on slow Wilmington, which everyone's closest to that unit. As I said before stroke center, that is in Kenya's view. They are have a four stroke center that is in Keynesville. They are nationally recognized as a stroke center. And then our LVAD or our LVAD, left in triglyrdousis patients, they go to a appropriate facility which we don't have many of those in Dupline. And then on the right, you can see Uniob, Dr or Uniob, be emerged that requires their doctor to they go to the perfect dialysis center. So our fleet, we have 12, 12 Englishes, we have eight on the front line, three spares, and then we provide chicken feet and four of nine with the ambulance down there to provide secondary 911 coverage and medical care district. We have a correction that we have four QRBs, the supervisors top hoe there, that we got last year, I think you were four last. We have two trucks and we have two the ringgots. One of the ringgots is a spare. And then myself and our train officer drives the truck and the operations officer, which right here right now it drives the Durango. This is some of our equipment so you'll see on the bottom right hand side those are what we call the Lucas devices their mechanical CPR devices we got one of those on every truck and the QRV or the supervisor vehicle through the Cape Firmament oil grant we were blessed he had it three years in the road and they provide us with those. The one at the top right we purchased with some money that we had a couple years ago. Those are what they call the Glitzkot goes. They are video of the Rangescope. It assists those in putting green and tubes in patients. We have those small ones on every ambulance and then our supervisor, Vihiquan, Dr. Carnegie has a like a iPad size one that they carry around. The stretcher there is the one they call the power load about five years ago, the state come out with a cow that all of our trucks have to go by cast standard. Part of that cast standard is that we had to change over to those type of stretchers. I will say honestly, and I think some of the days probably back me up is reduced our back injuries tremendously. We don't have people going out with back injuries every day or every week as things lie. We use our corded, the life back twill, cardiac monitor, we're currently leasing those from them. I think at least we have two more years on the lease. And then they will be ours So they provide the monitor they provide all the maintenance equipment or the maintenance for and upgrades if they needed while we're in that So this is some of the events that we do throughout the county We do is community CPR the different organizations churches Most that we do at the eighth grade. That's part of their curriculum now, so graduate. Now that's not a CBR class, they get car forwards, just straight up CBR, hands on with teaching them to do somebody collapses and how to do that. The middle picture there, Dr. Carnegie, about three or four years ago, the High School Athletic Association and OEMS come out with a joint statement that EMS staff and coaching staff should be doing joint training on spine restriction mobilization. So we took it upon ourselves to go to different high schools and provide that training with our EMS people and our coaching and the coaching staff throughout. We do several career fairs. You can see there and we also provide a standby for different festivals and just about all the events at the Vincenar we provide in the MS Amelis for right there. And that young man right there is the reason why we do Community CPR. You guys are here but for y'all that does, he collapsed and in the dance to you face the one night They provide a CPR and they he was there shocked him That kids alive and doing very well today So that's why we do the that's the most the reason why we do the community CPR You guys got any questions. I know that was kind of fast. I just want to provide you You guys got any questions? I know that was kind of fast. I just want to provide you One question when you when you mentioned the calls for the maintenance It's covered as long as the lease is ongoing. Yes, sir Is there a record of what the cost will be after the lease is paid off? I was more of More wise to keep it on lease. I mean what are the pros and cons? So you can enter into the so what it called service contract and what that would do. I don't know the the price on it. I would have to get you a price on that but I don't know what the service contract would be. Previous service contract was over $8,000 a year for 15 monitors but we're at least from now for I think it's 70 some thousand dollars four years five years and they cover all that and that that covers any any time they break any time for us need to be changed we have one monitor that we had replaced the computer board on and that was well, that was right at $8,000 to $9,000 in charge of seeing that. Yeah, sure. Thank you. Any more questions? Mr. Lamont? Thank you so much. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. That moves us to item number 11. Matthew Barton. Appreciate it. I was not. Yeah, that was where I met you. You see the shine from the road. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of board. Come before you tonight for several items. I appreciate you taking the time to hear me tonight. Hopefully make several requests here. The first of which, just to give you a little bit of background, the first two items deal with our debris contracts. This is something that if we wish to have debris cleared following a natural disaster, our contracts have to be in place pre-disaster. This is a requirement of FEMA. And if we do so and enact these contracts post-disaster, then we're able to get 100% reimbursed from FEMA as long as it is classified as a emergency protective measure. So I'm requesting tonight we the first contract is the disaster debris monitoring and recovery services contract. This contract is with Tetra Tech. This company was with us through Hurricane Florence and provided wonderful outstanding service following that disaster and we had extended that contract as well entered into a new three-year contract which comes up June the 30th and the contract allows us to extend it twice for a one-year term each time this would be the first of the two if you so desire. Pleasure to board. So moved. I got a motion and I got a second to approve this renewal of this contract for its first one year extension. Any further discussion? This is not requiring any monetary, it does say in this contract. No, sir. It does not require any monetary attivated. If we activate it, it would be following a natural disaster in that case we would have to pay for services and then be reimbursed by things. All right. Good. Thank you. Father discussion. Here and then all in favor say aye. All opposed same sign? Here. But it's out item number 12. Thank you. Item number 12 is in the very same scenario as the first item that we discussed, but this contract is for disaster, debris removal and management. These two items sound very similar. However, FEMA requires us to separate monitoring of the collection of the debris and the actual collection of the debris. This is served as a checks and balances to make sure federal dollars are spent responsibly. This contract is also a three-year contract with Crowder Gulf, which is ending on June 30th with two options to extend one year each time. This would be the first of the two times. Pleasure to board. I got a motion. I got a second. Further discussion? Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed. Same sign. same side carry I'm number 13 Thank you the next item I have is the request to accept grant funding this is disaster recovery item 4393 which signifies her came Florence And it is project number 71 and this is specifically to our generator projects which was authorized through the Hazard Mitigation Program with North Carolina Emergency Management. This is a federally funded program through FEMA and is passed down as a subrecipient from North Carolina to Dukeland County. This grant was actually applied for following Hurricane Florence in 2019. This application was submitted and after that we went through COVID-19 and some other events that really put our processes off and in August of 2021 the grant was awarded to Dupland County. Now, following COVID, that slowed everything down, staffing shortages, everybody was home. So the project kind of drug its feet. Now, we've followed it feverishly, but it moved as fast as the state and federal government wheel would spend it, so to speak. We did secure some engineer drawings. After that it went to the North Carolina Department of Public Instruction for review as it is mandated and following that it came back here to go through the official federal bidding process which took an additional few months and which lands us here in the very near past to try and get this grant pushed through. This grant is for six project locations, two of which are still within our budget constraints. The other four locations which would be our schools are over budget. And that is because the grant was applied for pre-COVID and pre-inflation. Since inflation has happened, prices have gone up dramatically. And we are in the process and have requested additional funding through FEMA in order to continue and complete these projects. My request for tonight is to ask that we accept the original amount of the funding and enable me to pursue the two projects which are still within the budget constraints originally defined. I have confirmed also with my program manager at the North Carolina Department of Emergency Management that if we pursue the two out of the six projects, it in no way binds us to completely the other four if our additional funding request is not fulfilled. This request is in the amount of $1,337, in the amount of $1,337,390 of that when you're asking for. Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, if I may, I made a mistake in your packet, in your motion. I put it, it would be at two Dupin County schools and it should be at two Dupin County government facilities, which would be our M.S. Medic 7 station in Rosehill and your fuel pumps out at the water department here in Kingsville that is my mistake not the schools. Okay is that clear for everybody on the board? Yes. All right I'd entertain a motion. Excuse me Mr. Chairman if I may I'd like to add in that that does come with the associated budget amendment to do so. Tracey O'Hill, if you don't say it, Mr. Chair. She did yell at me with her eyes just. Yeah, I've made the motion with the correction And I have a second any further discussion Here and none all in favor say aye all opposed same side carried we seconded the motion Mr. Branch thank you sir, all right that brings out of number 14. Thank you, sir. All right. That brings us out of number 14. Thank you. We're soon up to the discussion that we just had in the grant funds that were accepted. As I stated earlier, we went through the federally required bidding process and in the two projects that are ready to move forward forward we were able to secure bids for those projects and a proposed contract from Kennedy Electrical Service for the Fuel Depot project. This is at 111 Middleton Cemetery Lane here in Kenensville and this is service through the Dupland County Water Department which was also defined as critical infrastructure so in fruits of that labor we are going to be able to power our critical infrastructure at the water department including the SCADA system and also our fuel depot to fuel our emergency vehicles during disasters. This contract would be assigned to Kennedy Electrical Service and the amount of $28,990. Pajor to board. I got a motion to a half second. See? Got a motion to second, further discussion. Here you're done, all in favor inform say I all of those same side here I have number 15. Thank you. The next contract that you have in front of you is another of the very same situation of which we just reviewed. This contract is specifically for our Dukeland County EMS station, Enroze Hill. This contract was also formally bid through the federal process and received a one-bid back from Kennedy Electrical Service, which was the low bid in the amount of $29,625. Entertain a motion? That's good. I got a motion. Can I get a second? I got a second. Further discussion? Well, it's a generator. They put in the room. You missed it. Well, being at this generator is fairly small. I believe this one is a 22 or 25 KW. But it is coming full with a 96 hour supply of fuel on the concrete pad and with all the electrical standards that's required by the federal government. The size of that station commissioner is one of one of the houses at the Carpentry class at James Keenan built that EMS station is housed in that house and we also next door to it built a bay for the truck that station there. Any more discussion? Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed? Same side? Carried. of number 16. Thank you The last item I have for you tonight is a request to adopt the resolution supporting Senate bill 1175 and this is entitled supporting accurate views of emergency services act of 2021 views of emergency services act of 2021 otherwise known as the 911 saves act. This resolution would reclassify our public safety telecommunicators from office personnel to public safety personnel. And while this is only a statistical change at the federal level in this support, it is recognizing them for the job that they do and the rest that they take, not only emotionally but physically at times. They are the tip of the sword. They answer the phone when people are irate when they have a problem, when they're having the worst day of their lives, they're the first voice that they hear. And because of that situation, it causes a lot of emotional stress and trauma to them. And I feel that we should recognize them for the job that they do and recognize them as a public safety official. So my request tonight is to adopt this resolution that you have in your packet and I'll be glad to read that resolution if you'd like. Okay, go ahead and read it. So we'll have it on record. Sir. Resolution by the County of Dupland Supporting Senate Bill 1175 Supporting Accurate Views of Emergency services at the 2021. Whereas public safety telecommunicators are the first line of response during an emergency serving as the foundation for an effective response, they deserve to be classified in a way that recognizes their work is own poor with the work of other public servants currently classified as first responders. And whereas the work of public safety telecommunicators comes with an emotional and physical impact compounded by long hours and around the clock nature of the job, which research has suggested may lead to the development of post-traumatic stress disorder. And whereas classifying public safety telecommunicators as a protective service occupation corrects an inaccurate representation in the standard occupational classification to recognize the life-saving work that they perform to better align the standard occupational classification. And whereas in September 2021, the U.S. Representative Norma J. Torres and Brian Fitzpatrick announced that their 911 saves act passed the House as part of the Fiscal Year 2022 National Defense Authorization Act. The 911 saved act is bipartisan legislation to reclassify 911 telecommunicators from office and administrative support to protective service occupations in the office of management and budgets standard occupational classification catalog and whereas Senator Richard Barr introduced the reclassification bill in the United States Senate supporting accurate views of emergency services Act of 2021 where it currently remains. And whereas telecommunicators are working with local elected officials requesting support to reintroduce this legislation with the current Congress. And whereas the Dukeland County Board of Commissioners is in support of this legislative change. Now therefore, it be it resolved that the Board of Commissioners of Dukeland County is in support of bipartisan legislation to reclassify 911 telecommunicators from office and administrative support to protective service occupations in the office of management and budgets standard occupational classification catalog. Okay, thank you. I entertain a motion to adopt this resolution supporting Senate meal 1175 and authorizing the meantime. So I got a motion. Do I have a motion. I got a second. I got a second. A further discussion. Here and none. All in favor say aye. All opposed. Same sign. Carried. Thank you very much. Thank you sir. Okay that moves out of number 17. So we can bribe. Here. Okay, that moves out of number 17 for me to bribe here. Good evening, Chairman and members of the board. Any blue. In consultation with the county attorney, we have reviewed and made several changes to the county personnel policy. I stand before you to request approval for the following changes. Article 2, employment section 15, duration on page 26 will now clearly state the duration of the probationary period when promoted. Article 10, employee benefits, health benefits on page 129 as additional information regarding health insurance guidance, Article 10 employee benefits, Section 12, employee assistant program, page 140, changes to reflect the changes to the employee assistant program as well as making the correction under point C. Jeffrey Furrell to the EAP and also listen to correct article. Article six should be article eight. Okay if it's the pleasure of the board I would entertain that motion to take care of all of these in one motion. If not we'll separate them, but if I have a motion to take care of all of these. Okay, second. Second. All right, further discussion? Here and none. I'll let the favor say aye. All opposed, same side. Good job. Okay. All right, that brings us out of number 18. Mr. Davis. Thank 18, Mr. Davis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Board. As you know, the former county planner, Mr. Rawlings, last day of employment with Duke and County, was made at 12. I'm currently filling in trying to do the duties for the planning department, but I believe it will be beneficial to have a firm with planning, skill, and expertise to assist the public and the Duke of County planning board until a permanent replacement for Mr. Rollins can be named. Inside planning and development, LLC handles the planning services for Windsor and Bertie County and Pembroke and Robinson County on a contractual basis and have in the past handled the county planning services for Chauhan and Dupland County on an interim basis. This contract sets the limit on the payment for services not to exceed $5,000 per month. The contract, I mean, I'm sorry, $5,000. The contract will be terminated once a permanent county planner is hired. Mr. Cox from Insight Planning Development is here tonight if the board has any questions. So I'm respectfully requesting that the board approve the service contract between Dupland County and Insight Planning and Development. LLC for Interim County Planning Department Services. All right, so you heard your request? Do I have a motion? I got a motion, do I have a second? I see. I got a second. Father discussion? Here and none, all in favor say aye. All opposed, same side? Carry, thank you, that was in the number 19. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the board, I'm here to fill my statutory obligation to present you with a budget for the upcoming physical year. First, I just want to let you give you a brief overview of it. The recommended FY23 24 General Fund budget is $66,987,768, which is in balance with the tax rate of $71.5 per $100 of assessed valuation plus $2,100 of assessed valuation plus two cents per one hundred dollars assessed valuation to be placed in a capital reserve fund for a total tax rate of seventy three and a half cent. The appropriation from the fund balance the general fund is two million seven hundred and fifty three thousand seven hundred and ninety six dollars which accounts for four point one percent of the recommended budget and does not reflect any increase over the fund balance appropriation in the current physical year. All the enterprise funds are balanced with no requested changes to their fee schedules. The slides you see here give some budget highlights. Our capital, recommended capital expenditures are $776,826. I have been over the list of items we are going to purchase in next year's Capital Budget with the board. Some of the highlights would be eight patrol vehicles for the Sheriff's Office, one EMS truck, some supplies for the County Garage and Equip and equipment and also some seating replacement and a walk-in cooler at the event center. This year we have seen an increase in the employer contribution to our retirement account for local government employees. It's up 0.75% and it's up 1% for our law enforcement officers. Our employee health insurance is estimated to be up about 4.9%. Again, there's no recommended increase in the fund balance or tax rate from the current visible year. We have been, have budgeted for significant increases in both sales tax and interest revenues. Sales tax because the new trend seems to be for more and more folks to make purchases here in the county, whether it be at our local merchants or more so online purchases. Also, our interest revenues are up as a result of the Fed raising interest rates and we have a significant amount of money in the bank at this point in time. Special revenue funds that E-NOW won 1 fund, $232,975, school capital, $3,156,272. The resture Deeds Reserve Fund or their Automation and HALFs Preservation Fund, $20,600. Property Revaluation set aside $471,867. Our fire protection, which goes to our local volunteer firefighters, $3,824,751 debt service, $4,708,715 are insurance fund, $7,161,150. The enterprise funds, water fund, $61,352,502 our debt service and the enterprise fund, $982,719, Public Transportation Department, $1,395,257, our airport fund, $1,463,281. Our solid waste and recycling fund $4,640,697. In our enterprise funds we are budgeting to purchase $428,431 worth of capital. They also increase they also have increases in employee insurance costs through end-chief. Again, that's estimated to be 4.9 percent and they also have the mirror, the increases in the retirement for our local government employees as they participate as well. Is there any questions from the board? I can go over it in more detail if you like, but it will be the information that I Provided you in our 101 sessions There are two items that are Not in the budget that the board needs to consider the board of education has requested an additional allocation in the amount of $536,155 Again, it is not in my recommended budget as that is a decision. I need guidance from the board on comments from the board You said there were two one still there are two communications positions that I've added to the budget that I believe Commissioner Garner has a Concern about that we I need some guidance on The numbers that I've got did not support Hey, I mentioned that I received And I have communicated that to the other four commission I don't see where where our numbers that I've been provided support those to a decent positions. I have asked our emergency management coordinator and fire marshal mr. Barwick and also our communications supervisor mr. Vernon to be here tonight and they made a trip to the North County and and collected some information for you commissioner and they'll be glad to come up here and let the board know what they learned. Please do. Good evening. Again. Thank you for asking Mr. Burr and to supply you with some statistical information that we gather. So, and I will give you as much information as I can and Mr. Barnum is here also to answer any more detailed questions that you may have. We were very concerned to learn that Lenore County, just our neighbor over to the Northeast, is answering more calls than we were and it was a significant number. The 170,000 was the number that we were provided with and that is an accurate number. The 170,000 was the number that we were provided with. And that is an accurate number. However, I do not believe that it was apples to apples if you will. If you notice down toward the bottom of your sheet, you see phone calls, 2022, 911 calls and admin calls. The difference between those two 911 one one as it itself explains is those calls for help those distraught calls that someone needs emergency service. Admin calls or would be defined as a non-emergency communication to define some type of event that's going on or some type of record keeping. It was defined to us by the North County that they'd done a significant more amount of calls than we do in the effect of the difference between 170,000 by the North and 95 or 96,000 by Duplum. The significant number difference and I acknowledge that whole heartedly. What I asked the board to consider is when we learned when we went to Lindell County we learned that their police officers call their dispatch center on those admin lines every time they receive a call to get their incident number and their times. So what looks like a significant difference between our 96,000 and their 170,000 may be a concurrence of 25 to 32nd phone calls between an officer and a telecommunicator. So in that instance, I'd like to ask the board to consider our request for two peak time dispatch positions. And we believe this is justified by the 14% increase that we have already seen if you'll look in the middle of your page. That is the first quarter of 22 versus the first quarter of 23. In this time period, we have picked up the town of Warsaw and the town of Wallace dispatching their incidents completely. This 14% increase in my opinion, designates the need for additional personnel to take those extra calls. And in that, we ask for two peak time personnel, which would be evenly split between day shift and night shift, in which our statistics show that that is when the highest volume of our calls come in. Maybe you had a quiet understanding last statement. You said it was going to be split between day shift and night shift. Yes sir. So we're asking for two peak time positions. These positions would come in and work half of their scheduled time on one shift and half of their scheduled time on the other shift, the night shift. And then that way we're only asking for essentially two half positions instead of two four positions. Please, general. The typical schedule was 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. We were bringing the peak towers, towers. Telecommunicated is then 11 and 11 to 11, which in essence is split the shifts. And those are our peak times our calls on. So instead of adding a whole person per shift and asking you for four people, one to go on each of our fuller shifts, we're requesting two people and split those between the two. I'm gonna ask some more questions. And there's nothing personal. but at 34,000 last year that we asked who per the numbers you just give us, 9-1-1 calls along. And the 53,039 that Wayne, or the the first 30th year, you win a 4,000 in some calls, you're 14% increase by after taking over Wallace and Warsaw. You multiply those numbers out, you're still going to answer at your 14% increase, you're selling 46,900 calls compared to Feature 3000 and 39 out of Lenovo County and they're doing it with five and covering two counties. And I understand exactly what you say in Commissioner. The only thing that I would offer to board as a request of consideration is the dynamic of the fire departments and officers that we house here in the county is a little bit different than the nor our volunteers provide a Service that we just cannot afford right now and we're so thankful for that but because our and we're so thankful for that. But because our incidents grow to a position of length and complexity with adding additional units, we cannot be as efficient as other counties around us that have some paid services. So I would offer that as consideration so that we just can't do as much as some other counties. so that we just can't do as much as some other counties. We explain how that affects telecommunication to me. What does telecommunication have to do with our volunteer firefighters and them not being paid? So the prime example that I can use in the paid fire service to receive a hundred percent credit on your insurance classification. You have to put 15 personnel on the scene of a structure fire. In the volunteer world, one volunteer or one paid person equals three volunteers. So we have to have 45 people talking on the radio, whereas in the paid setting, you only have to have 15. And in that case, it takes more people to monitor that radio traffic to make sure that if there's a Mayday call or an officer in trouble or anything of that nature, that they hear that and are able to respond quickly. The little county also has volunteer fire department. They do. They do have some volunteer fire departments they've got City of Kingston. They also have some people that are paid around in their volunteer stations which I hope that we are putting off as as long as possible but it is coming to a point here but there is some volunteer still in the New York, so they are facing some of those challenges as well. And that's as these numbers do not reflect any peridiotracker. These are all calls for service numbers. The telecommunicator takes the call, asks the police to do something with it. And if you take our average call, which is 95,000 years, you've got to touch that radio to three to four times minimum. And that's just on the log column. On the fire column, you may touch it 50 times. So you've got a lot of complexity of what you're doing. And with Wallace and Warsaw, Admin and we're looking at average and you get 10,000 additional colleges. and we're all in some Warsaw admin and we're living in average and you get $10,000 in additional college. If the numbers they're giving me, based off of their care district. So did they eliminate people when they turned it over to you? Yes sir. Yes sir did. Yes sir, we had two peak these, essentially what we are requesting the board consider the two peak dispatch positions. They were eliminated several years ago. So eliminating people that and shifting to calls to the county, it losing two bodies, but the calls are coming over to the county and we suppose to manage that. Yes sir. You have the same efficiency and we don't have those two feet. Yes sir. We're we're managing the calls now but the color volume increased. It's going to take us out. So it's going to drop our average color pattern. So we have to answer a call within I think it's five seconds or ring time. I now want to call and do something with it within 10 seconds. And once those numbers and percentages change, it affects our rating of the state, which is in turn would affect the fire service, because we're graded when they get insurance rated, which will bring their ratings. I wouldn't say down, I, right, make them worse. Make them worse, higher tax tax. And we're also rated with the R91 funds based off of those top-notch. What's your school factor playing to it? What you're speaking for on the high-potatical. But I've not seen those increases yet and I'm not seeing those percentage drop yet but I am anticipating that because of the body. I'm anticipating 110,000 to this year, 795, out of the world last year. And we're seeing these increases and we're really trying to be proactive in getting from it. I guess I'm struggling a little bit to see if they have eliminated two people so they've lowered the town cost and we're just going to absorb that as a county cost, is that what you're asking for? Very good, chair, sir. Let's go ahead and take those calls in. Are you monitoring different frequencies for these different police departments that are operating on our sheriff's office frequency? Well, currently we have Wallace's operating on the sheriff's frequency. We have Warsaw on his own frequency. But July 1, with the upcoming budget, I have equipment planned, where we're going to put in a new channel, a PV channel, and we're going to move all the PVs to one channel. For that telecommunicator, it's not sitting there, having monitored the three channels. They don't have a monitor. Those wave restructuring men, you have a telecommunicator for fire, one for EMS, one for Sheriff's Office, excuse me, I was on it. And one for police department in this valley. Then you have a supervisor which blends and picks up the overflow from every time. Plus not mentioning those fire water on the radiator, taking no one on the cars. We do not call taking any discussion. Some of the centers like Wayne have co-takers or they only take college. We're managing it and it's gonna get very hit. And you have five and two now? No, sir. We have five telecommunications now. And you don't have to do that. Well, we have to to have me and the Chris and Mr. Mallow that work eight to five. And they keep up training quality assurance employee administrative. And we put on the insets and blend in and needed because we already defined the sixth station over there. In the end there was the full budget process I requested with the state. Now one board and analysis of our positions. They came back with your report you can have five seated positions and one overflow position. So they've already paid for the equipment to create that workstation. So they wouldn't be any money went into that from the county, other than what this annual maintenance house is. The equipment is sitting there, it's curious sitting there, I'm just waiting for people. And in that nine-one-one-born discussion, they make sure that the analytics of what we're doing matches the request because they don't want to just throw the state's money away on something that's not necessarily needed. So they have seen the volume and they have agreed that we do need that overflow position. Or they will say the New County's understaffed. That would be on the management of the New York County. I would agree with you commissioner that I believe they are understaffed. But in doing so they're able to service their people without having these changes in their ratings. At this time, yes, but their burnout is kind of quick. And they're also in a little counties in the process that came from having to tell me the other day. It was a little more counting in the process that I came from, how many should I tell you the other day? It was a whole shift. They've got a whole shift that quit and they're training. They have five or six people that they're training in the process now. They've been, and they're having full people in the rain schedule to get people trained. They have five or six people that are bound to be Different in the country. Well, how's our staff in terms of burnout? We're going to get there by the end of the year. We had, we just put the full staff in place. We did some additional, two due training. But they came in and worked approximately one month in clear for the good hand move to process. We have been constantly evaluating our processes and we were having a shift schedule that rotated days and nights two weeks a day, two weeks and nights and we found that the employees couldn't regulate their sleep schedule. So in effort to try and combat some of that burnout about 18 months ago, we changed and changed two shifts to straight days and two shifts to straight nights to try and help them regulate that burnout. So they said that again, you see, they couldn't regulate their schedules. It was hard for them in getting readjusted. Not really, when you go from day to night, but when they were coming from night back a day, we were able to see a lot of mistakes and a lot of call outs and stuff like that. And Mr. Branch, I shouldn't say processes. I should say nature of the job. They can't handle the nature of the job. So you're not fully staff now? We're down to it for what we're doing now, but we have interviews for three coming up next week and we've got connects with everybody said interviews. I had advocates. How long you been down to? Um, don't only been down, but not now, not quite a month, three weeks. Yeah, very much. That's a good process to get someone in because you have to do an extensive background check on before you even set the interview. We have to do a detailed background because they have to be DCI certified for the SBI and everything else. But if we approve this, you'll be down 4. I'll be down 4, yes sir. I mean you struggle under higher than 2. How you gonna find the fault? Keep looking for them. We plan to pretty good our turnover rate. In other words, when we get people quit, we get the applications in. And especially with the face study that we have now, we're getting more applications in. It's just the fact that the application that we're getting in would have to weed out because of the background. So you're handling the cows now with the 14% increase. Sure, too. So if you get them back, that's to bring you back up to where you've been pretty good shape. So we're also burning overtime right now to bring people in the cover where we're down to. As well. How much overtime will you spend? Our, not exactly sure on the dollar amount but we are spending some overtime because we're bringing people in and feel those gaps. So you have conversations with the team that's there that the hope is you would get the two positions so you'll be working towards filling it to theoretically put their minds at ease that you're trying to do things as necessary to keep them afloat. That is what it's like. And we're trying to reduce their burnout because that is the very tough job as well. You know, you know, as well as getting along with it. But a busy 12 hours is a lot better than a slug twig of hours. Yes sir. That way, the MS-2. You're not lowering your shifts. No. They're still making the twig of hours. Yes sir. Busy would help though, help you maintain the efforts to make sure that the people are meeting their needs. That was the whole idea of who we sat down at the budget time process this year, evaluated what we needed. This is the need that I felt that we needed to be at an hour, be at down the road, be at whatever the health of our people. The numbers I got from a little county in my mind is nothing. Is anybody to work over there or anything else? Because I know exactly what they're going through. I've lived that life for 13 years. And the numbers you provide me just do not want the addition of two new employees in my mind. I'm only one person. So we really appreciate your consideration, absolutely. I'm just trying to get ahead of the further. Does it stand? When you get the positions field that you got empty now and you're operating with five trained qualified people and you are not and you're you're worried about burn out and stuff at that point. What's to keep you from coming back and sharing the information at that point and us looking at adding something to the budget versus doing it today when you're already two people short and not knowing what you got. That's absolutely a feasible option. I think just Mr. Vernon and I were trying to get ahead of the curve. And I understand that and appreciate that because if you happen when you come back and ask for it, I'll tell you if you're the budget it See you know, it's one of those deals no matter which way you go There's gonna be an option, but today I have a real problem create four openings You know and so you know what I would like to see you do is feel you open and run your business and If it's a struggle, we won't take care of people. We won't take care of the emergency calls, and we won't take care of the people. That's good to work over there. I do not want to burn out and get in blowies. But right now you may be burning out in blowies because you're two people short. And so I don't want to overreact to the two people short today by creating four people short. And I personally, as they would say, Mr. Garner said, Commissioner Garner said that he was just one. I'm just one. But I personally would consider looking at it later if we solve the need later when you're running full staff and you're struggling with all the add-ons to do your job. You know, because adding it to the budget is adding it to the budget, where we add it today in preparations or what we might need, or we add it when we know we need it. That's where I would like to stand. I'm just one. I concur, too. And I would say don't allow too much time to lapse, because where we are tonight you may not get the yes but if you see things that's beginning to manifest itself into a major issue go ahead and get on hold on let's try to make sure we get a little more proactive in that regard instead of being. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. and since I said the board, I'll remove that from my recommended budget when I present to the public on June 4th. Are there any other items that the board would like for me to change my recommended budget for June 4th? There is. I would also like to see the one-on-a-half positions with the dollar pound either taking out or we're budgeting that on the shoulders, kind of just like we're doing that we don't need no wisdom open yet. And I just, I kind of would be just like what we did with communications. We'll visit that when the shelter gets closer to open because right now it's slated up on October, but we're still waiting on a very important piece of electrical component to come in. And they've already told us that it may not be here in time. And if I had to guess, it's probably not. If they don't already have it, and they've been building what now went on a year. And they don't have it in place yet. And they knew they were going to have it a year ago. So, you know, this thing may drag on to next budget year. The delivery date they have now is September 30th, something 31st I think George. But yes they could theoretically could. But they have I will tell you they will need more staffing at that animal shelter. They cannot do it with a part-time shelter clerk when they're going to triple their volume. But you can wait in the house when you get shelter. We can't have budget with the requirement that you're not going to hire them until the shelter is built. Sure. Yes. And that's understanding. Yes. We would not budget for the entire year, but you would authorize the positions in the budget Then the next manager and Mr. Newburn could come in here and make that request, Mr. Chairman I mean, I think that's what I just heard commissioner Garne say He's not against you having to help when you have the facility He just is against putting it in his it in, is hired a map. Is that what you were saying, Mr. Garnt? We've just, we've asked communications to run their business and get full staff. And if they want to come back through us after they see what kind of operates, I think we do the same thing with down control until they get right now they're operating a business status quo as they always have and it's in the physical you're re-in so operated like it is until we get this new shelter because day one the chances that that shelter be in at 100% capacity or slim to that. I disagree with that. Oh, heartily. Well, they can make it full if you, if you instruct them to make it full. But that's not the intent of... I wouldn't have to instruct Commissioner Garter. If we were able to, I mean correct correct me for a long Mr. Brinson, there's some challenges that we have in today as far as I'm with shelter. Yes, sir. And that's because of staff. Yeah, not in the shelter, but in the field. Right, yes, sir. To service to the users service to we're not addressing that issue in this budget But there things is going on now Yes, sir body in the half would help mitigate in shelter which would help my field staff my animal control officers stay in the field which I have to the toe officer stay in the field. And now I have to pull shelter duty, help water feed the animals, care for the animals. So you still have that issue going on, not knowing when we're going to open up, but when we do open up the shelter, you're going to have the issue that's going on now, that's still growing, and the time constraints are getting someone trained and up and running when we say go. Yes. So it's for a longer than inevitable. Yeah, it's because of what might happen. It's my feeling you're gonna have to have more staff in the shelter. Well, obviously it was your feeling that we were gonna have to have more help at 911, correct? Yes, and I still do. And you still do, that's correct. And we very well make, but we, we use the same approach to the animal shelter as we do in 911 dispatch. Now we took those out of the budget. They're not in. And I say take the one and a half out of the animal shelter. I disagree, but are you to the, are you fully staffed now? Yes, sir. Part of the differs there, Mr. Garner, is there too short over there now. So we're saying that there is issue could be from their shortage even though they're saying it probably won't be but today, as the said, it probably won won't be but until they get fully staff and Train we can't ask for that. So that's part of to me. That's part of the reason for putting that off I think all of us know that That big children that were built and it's gonna require people we knew that when we voted to shelter him I'm not for hiring them until the shelter is up and running because if you hire them now, they'll get busy and then they'll have too much work when we get the full shelter. But we will get shelter sometime this year and they are positions we don't have if we don't put them into budget. So I don't have a problem personally With leaving them into budget as long as we're not going to hire them until the shelter is complete Now that's just me Again, but what you're gonna say he would just want. I'm just one. Let's hear from everybody Personally, I would be fine with taking the part time that you're trying to add on to and just make them full time. Okay. That's my personal opinion. I appreciate that commissioner. I mean, I'd like to give him some more help. You give him some more help, we're trying to save taxpayer some money also. Yes sir. And I'm fine with hiring full time at part time. And when the show is open, I mean, they're proving the positions. And then when the shelter's open, we can get ahead and roll to me. My recommendation is when the shelter is open. Yes, sir. Hi, Dad. Of course. I don't know how to do it. Just make coffee. Right. Not saying they will. I just ask. just make coffee. Right. Not saying that will. Oh, you guys. That's that. Well, they were already, they were understaffed last birthday. And so they go into another budget year, understaffed, and then we got a new building coming up. So I agree with Mr. Davis. I mean, Mr. Bresson on this. I just leave it at that. So everybody's got their own opinion. So I look to the chairman to tell me what just happened. All right. Well, gentlemen, I think what we have discussed, and I just want to get everything out in the open, what we've discussed is we know we've got a larger shelter coming and we are going to have to have some additional help. The request in the budget is one and a half employees. The suggestion from one commissioner is just turn the half into a hope. And so you would still be sure once you get open And so you would still be sure once you get open a half a position, right? Because you were one and a half note. You'd be short one position. He would just be furnished to half. That wasn't you, was he? We would take that part time employee to a full time employee. So we, as he was asking for one and a half, we'd still be short one when Sherwin got open. Yes, sir. Right? Yes. We request our suggestion from one of the commissioners, if we do it out, the suggestion from two commissioners is that we go along with it once the shelter is open and the suggestion from one commissioner, they're doing that. That correct, which is gone. You don't even want to say this, maybe. So when you asked the chairman today you what just went on We have a fair Make decision from the Senate commissioners of We have to move on this by in the morning you know, but you know That's the only item left for us to have to decide on so you can move on. So we haven't got to remede in the morning. Other than the school systems asked. Okay. So we need a consensus here tonight. I mean, I know it's not we may not be establishing a motion about it for the budget but for me to be able to say that we're on one of the co-worked. You know from the commissioners I'm going to entertain somebody making a motion of where to move to on this. Everybody pay attention now. Somebody make a motion so that I know so I can get it on record, but we are giving Mr. Davis the authority to do. Somebody give me something. I make a motion. Dad. You want all three of them right back morning? No, just do this one. We got so much on the table on this one. Let's get this one down and we'll go to the other. Just down on control. Just down on control, I just... I make a motion to take that position in half out of the budget. Okay, I got a motion to a second now further discussion and we've already discussed it well what you got is garnered mecharecumendation to take it out of the budget position and a half the position halves so that's getting none of it and commasional Edwards second Any further discussion Here in none all in favor say aye all the pose All in favor say aye. All opposed? No, indeed. Chairman's going to have to break the tie. Looks like it. I don't see any way you're going to operate guys without having help. Now I hate to raise taxes and I hate to add people but are we saying that we are going to allow him to come back like we did communication? It seems like they're doing their every month. I'm not saying I won't entertain when they come back and they give it open and we've got dog feces running out the door when he's more employees, we'll hire him some help, but I don't think we need it right now. I think it ought to be in a budget. We sit here as commissioners and we talk about morale of our employees. We just told one department no they're not getting their two positions. And we're going to say right here if this doesn't pass, and we're going to give a park, just apartment deposition, and have even though it may not be filled with you of January and February, or it may be as early as September. We don't know. So we treat each department the same as the five of us sitting on this board is the way out person to feed. So we have done that. We set the precedence with E91 communications. Yes, there are two positions short right now, but I don't know how long they've been those two positions short. I think I heard three weeks. those two positions short, I think I heard three weeks. So I just, I don't see how we see here and approve it. Now that doesn't mean they can't come back. Wants to shelter is a... All right. Can I respond? Yeah, okay. My response is that they're two positions short and EMS is four positions short. So the map just doesn't line up and the animal shelter has been short for over year already. And there's other issues as I'm stimulating from that very fact. So we're given to that which has been under water for quite some time. And we're negotiating with that which has been under water for just a small amount of time. I think we've gone about it in a way to be fair across the board, but the animal shelter is more going on with it than actually Mr. Davis is presented tonight. As a result of just worst taking place in towns. And I think Mr. Garner you're aware of that already. So I think our efforts would be more positive and conclusive if we were to fund the positions and work towards what's gonna be better down the road. We don't know what we don't know, but we do know we too, people sure. Well, like I said, I don't see any way you're going to run that shelter without adding to hell. You know, and so, you know, it's a situation that if we both down tonight, who you take it out of the budget, they will have to come back. Now, I listen to all of the information and feel very strongly that I do not want to go out of here thinking that we sided with the animal shelter and sided against communication. That could not happen. So with that said, I am going to move my code to tell you to take it out of this. I'm going to pass it. I'm going to go with to taking it out of the, I'm gonna pass it. I'm gonna go with the taking it out and they'll have to come back just like we're asking the communication to come back so that we treated both the same. But with an understanding that we're gonna have to come back, there isn't a choice. The gut thing wants you open shelter. So everybody knows that we're passing a budget. That's going to be amended when shelter gets open. So that's where I'm at, because I want the freedom the same way we treat your communication. OK, thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next item, Board of Education has requested an increase in their appropriation of $536,155. I did not have it in the budget because the budget is balanced without it being in there. So the board has options as I have explained to you. What you explain when you talk to me is it could come out of time by this? Yes, sir. It can. We will not raise taxes more. No, sir. You will not have to. OK. Other commissioners? The question is to allow them to take that out of the unbiased. I'm up there. I'm up there understanding that they can either come out of our unbiased or they can come out of the school systems Savings correct their fund balance correct. Yes, sir. Good will Do you have the number on their their fund balance? I will look to my finance officer and she will look up their last audit online and tell you It's over $4 million, I think. I guess what I'm getting at is that you can either come out of our funds or you can come out of theirs, but it's got to come out of one of those to keep from raising taxes. And $6.5 dozen dollars would be. The only thing is I'm under the understanding that they are not required to maintain the percentage of ballots. Great? No sir, I don't think they're in the way to keep a fun ballot. Yes, I'm fine with you coming out of the Board of Commissioners. I made a count of fun ballots. the board of commissioners made the county fund balance. Okay. Mr. Datt. I'm okay with the coming out the fund balance. Mr. Garne. I'm okay. So we got the consensus or need to get a vote on that. I think I have a consensus. I will add that $536,155 to my general fund budget and I will use an increase in amount of fund buyouts appropriated to do it. I think that's all of the guidance I need so I can make my presentation to the public on June 5th. Mr. Chairman, do you see any need to come back for the work sessions tomorrow? If everybody's happy, I'm fine. But over the only three questions and we've got those answers. First, it's coming back tomorrow. How do you feel? I'm fine with it. I'm good. I'm good. That's fine. Right. Okay. We're good to go. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. All right, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you That gives out of number 20 general announcements Yeah, you still give it. Chairman, members of the board, the NCACC is having their annual conference in Raleigh, Wake County, on August 24th through the 26th. The registration period opens on this Thursday. So I'd like to know if any members of the board would like to go to the annual conference, so I can make your travel arrangements and also register you. I'm not going to be able to end on that date. Okay. Mr. Branch. All right. Mr. Dow. I will be there. Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. Mr. Chairman, that's all I have. I would like for the Board to, um, I'd like a motion for the Board to go in a closed session for certain all kinds of general statute 143, 3, 3, 18, 11, 8, 6, for personnel matters. So, um, to like a motion for the Board to go into close session for certain all kind of general statute 143 318 11 a 6 personnel matters. I got a motion in a second. It's a discussion. All in favor say aye. I will pose same sign. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, appreciate you coming tonight. We're now going into close session and we'll start just just a minute when the room gets cleared.