Heavenly Father, we'd like to thank you for this opportunity to meet in person tonight, or especially grateful for our help during this time. Please guide us to make great decisions for the town and to have good working relationships with you. We thank you every day for our many blessings. Amen. What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public? What is your opinion on the issue of the public I'm going to leave you to order the first item in this. This is the topic of comment here. We will allow you to use the state council. We have three men and women. We can state a unique, um, that you'd like to have council consider. We don't respond to people here about comment here. But if there is something brought to us that we need to perhaps put on the agenda in the future. We begin at the capacity of the head. Should people who have requested to address the council with this evening and will start with Julie Bishop. If you will come to the podium and then you can rest a breath and you'll see what you hear from Paul. Let me just Julie Filter and then 1215 for the part place. And today I'm here to talk about backyard chickens. Between July and August of 2021, the following news stories occurred nearly nine of the main houses are ready to eat eat chicken were called due to the steering outbreak. Over 52,000 pounds of chicken products were recalled due to hard white plastic contaminants and it was 60,000 pounds of chicken products were recalled due to possible salinella outbreak. That's just two months, let them sink in. Not only are chicken products and unreliable source of safe protein these days, the prices have become sore. When it increases the container and chicken that used to cost $5.65, not less nine hours or more. While it doesn't end to double from 75 cents to $1.65 or more for even the cheapest brands, the town's tolerance has an opportunity to be part of solution and not the problem by updating current poultry ordinances to reflect the needs of today's residents. Backyard chickens are a cost-effective solution for residents are already welcomed in nearby towns and create no issues when owned responsibly. Interested raising backyard chickens exploded in 2020. What millions of people have come to realize that backyard chickens provided over looked opportunity for safe and affordable food for their families with loads of other benefits to. Chickens provide older birds with fertilizer as well as pest and weed control that can also be meaning the millions of emotional support and even a family pet while offering sustainable solutions for future generations. Chickens require very little living space and responsible care is easily achieved. Realistically there's no defensible reason for their exclusion of a common pet such as dogs, other than bioconcultural norms. But we can choose to change that. Towns and counties around the country have already begun to change, showing their inclusive and freedom-loving spirits. But stonls is an ecstature. Local towns such as Matthews, Monroe, Wellington, Weste Chapel, and recently Indian Trail, all the ordinances in place that provide reasonable solutions to allow residents to keep backyard chickens for local and safe food. It's time to add stallings to the list. I know the idea makes some nervous to let's be honest, not everyone will choose to get a small flat chicken. Let's not tie them against the responsible citizens to provide food and pleasure for their families. Residents like me want an official ordinance that outlines expectation to clarify what is allowed such as how many hands can be owned as well as standards of care and upkeep. All I ask is that we, the fellow residents of the town of stallings, be afforded the opportunity to follow reasonable standards that include our desired expectation, expression of life liberty and pursuit of happiness. The town of Stollings has a choice to be more inclusive and help its residents enjoy greater food security and freedoms rather than maintain barricades and locks. Doing so will bring Stollings up to date, neighboring towns, and make it just as appealing a place to live rather than the one to avoid. Choose to be part of the solution, not the problem. Thank you. And do you have a great one? Do I have a better chance to see you? Hi Robert Reagan, 5,000, Senate and Dr. I want to talk tonight about speed limits over near the chestnut round it out. The Brad's motherware bed, but right as you exit the roundabout, all directions of speed limit immediately jumps to 45 miles an hour. If you're coming down chestnut this direction, it drops to 35 as soon as you get to Red Barn Trail. And it seems to me that we should, as a town, be able to lower that speed limit between Red Barn Trail and the roundabout because our city is along the whole one side of there. And on the other side is County, I realize that, but where the speed limit is dropping in Red Barn Trail, it's actually County on one side and then you're in trail on the other. So I'm kind of wondering how they're allowed to have a 35-month hour speed limit from red bar and trail all the way over to the road road. And yet we've got 45 running right by chest nut in the neighborhood. And what the result of that is, as soon as people leave that round about, they're zooming down that road 45-55 miles and however because we all know 45-55 right that at least that's the way it seems and you know people are hammered down coming out of there. Same thing coming out on what happened to Matthew's road, you know coming back toward the Charlotte area, toward the shopping and up inmatte-work Matthews. Again, 45 in our town, all the way up until you get to Matthews and then drop to 35. And I'm already put in our request with City of Charlotte for them to drop the speed limit in their section, which is part way in our neighborhood over a chestnut. And it goes up past the school as the city of Charlotte. And that's a very difficult place to get across. And my family, we walked across that road nearly every day going to the Colonel Baby Park. And with the roundabout traffic coming out in kind of a continuous space this now, it's very difficult, and the interest to get across there. And yesterday I noticed two couples trying to get from the new apartment complex over to the restaurants you know, to get to Mario's. And you know, it's dangerous. You know, I remember seeing that we were gonna get crosswalks, there's some function that roundabout and a function of the apartment complex. And like that, you guys consider some traffic safety in particular, dropping the speed limits down to 35 through the stalling section at the very minimum. And I'll keep pressing on Charlotte to see what they can do. But if you guys can also use your contacts at Charlotte as we push for that as well, then we get the speed limit to be consistently 35 from the roundabout all the way up to McKee, which would be a lot safer because that road's very busy. That's a charter school on which adds unusual traffic pattern. And there's got a lot of neighborhoods coming in and out. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Werner. I'm sorry,, I hadn't got it yet. That's right. And then the response to the answer in the city was a setting, which is the first of your thoughts to warmly. And Bob, I think you maybe knew the justification for it, for thirty-five, from my key all the way through it, which was what we were asking to consider until that was the goal. And do you think around about the formed between a hundred and a hundred, that one of the districts from around about how should we slow the re-enactment in the Union County from Mayover, to County. Charter's with no understanding that it's within the heart of the problem. We've got two charter schools on the other side of that round about. And slowly that down, the-byte of the Hingian improvement. And then the section on chestnut that Bob was talking about the runs was out on the air. That's a board that I think Alex was probably dead for another conversation after some time this past now. It would be great. In addition, you could get that crosswalk in a desire remember. It was part of this old discussion of solace that would have easy, but not easy, but access to the, the Green Wave. The Green Wave is great, and I'm better than you, or else I'm canceling the meeting, who was approved that I love to see a crosswalk, then it is dangerous. And we talked about it. I remember when they show up, they follow up on that. Let's be open. Okay. I will be following the staff and you can pay the email. Jenna and I will be trying that. I think remember that Mayor Duncan is wondering the student on board which is from the way I have mentioned the student on that. So, 45, we can have success with that. Because the ITS and the experience on other people's side. We could argue with different men in that bar of town, giving schools in and out about outside of line of occurs. We had a minor inspection. So, yeah, I'd love to talk. A lot of such problems, I'm sure. Okay, so now I'm going to be concerned about them. We have quite a few higher requirements on these reasons. We have a recession of the amounts of money that we have special PDNs, among 24 or plus additional amounts of 24, especially on such a number of teams. But it's leading on such a number of teams. Section 14, what is the reading on Section 14? A great reading on Section 14 is the day of counseling. Second, the session on Section 14, special meetings on Section 20 and Section 24, and then we have to be down, the glory placement and the class system as items for the consent agenda. We are able to approve for the now-based and permission, so our permission to approve the consent agenda. Make a motion to approve the consent agenda. As presented. Please say a second. I'll second. I'm going to have. He says second. I'll second. I have a question on second. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say and I said he has an important thing to start with district two. Um, should I have a report? Um, do you believe in the participating with, uh, what we used to be known as COD. Everybody could all remember this COD. But it's a central and regional council. Um, um, participants, local elected official, and participants with the Light Valley, and, uh, past elected official, and participants with the light railing, and cast several meetings over the course of summer, and they go on and then we just finish up resigning and seeing the ideas, and seeing where we're going to go next to the participant. So, we've had this couple hours with our last week of guest, was it? Let's not all like that, and the cast went on. I have the report. I just wanted to kind of give you a day-long, probably, a few days ago. So there were really few years that one of the things that those came to us and talked about all this. They have five lines to plan to do the big library in the Union County, which is going to be quite a bit pretty nice size library that's going to also be expandable and so it's going to be, I want to say it's going to the house, off the problems. And so, how the house was like, wax off, but at the end, it was going to be kind of modern, modern, a lot of electronics, a large, kid-space. And so, just for the way it's going to be pretty, pretty much a facility out there. So, just kind of wanting to go to the bookstore or wear that, because they were about to start, they were fundraising. And so, when that case off, they're looking at $1 million from public fundraising to outfit the actual building. And so we came that off, just some, you know, private people engaged involved that so that we may not want money if I'm not very talented. The next thing I'm talking about from the moment is that we are seeing a lot of issues with Airbnb's in the area where Airbnb is not owned by just, you know, residents that are actually being balled up by our companies and causing issues where they're kind of where are you folks coming in and bringing these properties and really they're kind of what we can do to stop that because at Stainless there's no other way to do this, there's a long term rental short term rental. And so we are seeing some issues kind of starting to come up where we're starting to see sound, work, and subspeed, work, trash, loud, hard, and so there is some work going on in the background to see if there's anything we can do with the future kind of in the most acting back to the community for visual term results. The other thing that was brought to us, this was brought up from the community county, police department, that's a must in the office This was brought up from the U.K. County Police Department. That's a must in the office and very, how's the best way to say this? Very complex scams that target our elderly folks. And effectively what's happening is that once they get one person that's kind of tagged, they're being cut goes into a system and they will consistently get infected by these things. So I'm so that they don't do what people tell them to do. They'll actually start physically harassing them. They've actually had some of you account where the harassing has sent people out and that's something you can work like the rest of us said, people have changed the box on the person's house, and they could get into the house. So it's becoming not just a email scam, but it's becoming very physical and very structured. And so just a couple of times for everybody that that type of thing is going on in our community, that if you know the order of the people, they're kind of making sure that they're aware and kind of of telling them never to deal with cash and always it sounds fishy or sounds unusual how somebody can look at it because it seems like it's becoming more And it was the first time I had a meeting with you. And then I think I'll be more precise and I'll look at both today and the council and the opportunity to tour the area when possible last week. And it was really exciting to see what the plan later and how it's planning the passion that's come into it. And it's built in a hospital with an homicens patient so that we never really need to build a new travel from patient groups. They don't have to shut down anything and then a lot of people have been in hospitals where they have to shut down the wind while we're doing our aid to, but it's going to be a tremendous facility and it will be such a aspect of our community. And they have been made, they will plan to do some sort of for the public to be able to do, um, code is making that their original plans had to be able to last, but they wanted involved with the UNTPN to see the facility. And it started opening the seminar on being at London World at UNSTATONMENT, but probably early next year, so keep your eyes peeled for that. Got the community. Some very important, okay? Who will go with the voice from the town manager. I'm getting here to remind you pretty, pretty violent, and it's made a little splatts in this gross effort towards after me. So very quickly, the first thing I want to mention is we've been having some issues with the audio, the telecast, the damn cancel needs. So just want to remind everyone, be sure to please kind of speak in the microphone and we can add Council Member Richardson. I think your life's got to come until we're good to end. But just be awful and kind of bugging in. I know it's easy when we're talking about an awful issue to kind of come back, but just be mindful of that. When we sit down and write a story like an official in rural, the bargaining town's budgetary in terms, but what we do have is similar definitions and what we've sent what we've got in her dwellings. All those three years ago, the same is on the open. So we expect that they were out by the end of next week. Hell is. So there's a better word for us in our engine. It's been really good at being on the performance, things like that, making sure everything's good. Our engineers tell the English for what other things want to come to this group. We start seeing separate, separate, that make sure everything's good. I already used to tell the English rules and the other things when the conference was through. So I was saying separate, separate, separate, so that's really important to get that right. And that's all I had. Thank you. I'm happy. What else do you have in the box in the report? Yes, Ms. Platz, while she's getting up here, Ms. Nichols, do you mind going to the thank you? Sure. I just wanted to let you guys know the update on the economic development person. Thank you Council Member Hayers. So I just remember one of your parties is an economic development person for the ED issues that were the town and you decided to partner with the Monroe Union County Economic Development Commission to have one person with four stallings, a lacsall, and the commission. Just wanted to let you know that we, silence is ready to move forward with that. We are just waiting on the commission to actually hire that position. So as soon as they do, we will be ready with an interlevel agreement on that. But there's hotline, I believe is not until about around the first of the year. So as soon as we hear from them, we'll bring it back to you. I think so. I suppose. Erin, I do have a power point for this one. Erin, I do have a power point for this one. Good evening, everyone. Can you hear me? Yes. Excellent. Yes. Here I talked to a few things about few things tonight. First about Plano Park enhancements, we have been looking toward what we should do with Blarrow Park with the budgeted allowance from council this year on the Parks and Recreation Committee that last month after our meeting. We looked at the survey data, both here and with the Parks and Recreation Committee, and play round came to the top as a need for Blair Mill. So we had our consultant out and got a quote on a play on apparatus for ages 5 to 12. We'll house up to 33 people in a spinner type of standalone with some benches in that area that is very close to our budgeted cost. It came in at $54,000 including the mulch. Just point out that the taxable amount would be reversed and it's about $3,000. So it's just a little over the budget amount we had for $50,000. However, in this process, we did determine that there's some grading issues in the site there that specifically address ADA compliance. So in order for us to be able to install playground in the determined location at their mark. You need to go back out and look at what it would take to make the grading compliant for ADA. So this is the area we will get. I realize the image clarity is not that great. It's from Google Maps. It is adjacent to the parking lot on the side with the restrooms. The area that we're looking at is of course larger than the playground space you saw. However, having it all created at once allows us to have expansion to add a two to five year old plate area later or expanding that playground if we decide to do that. It also makes the entire area, area compliant, but doesn't affect the sidewalks. So I'm still waiting on quotes back from that. Here you can see just some renderings of how the area dips down as it goes down towards the sidewalk. The sidewalk is level and it tips down towards the pavement. So essentially what we would be doing is coming in, adding filtered. If a retention wall is needed it would be installed when we make sure that drainage is maintained and then that it is level and able to be in the end compliant to install playground. So this will go back to the Park Samarit committee tomorrow night. We'll install playground. So this will go back to the Parks and Art Committee tomorrow night. We'll address these. Hopefully this week I will get the quotes for this. But also regarding the enhancements at Plurable Park, we have received quotes for the traffic items to put our work in to address the issues with the aesthetics there. It will be much more long lasting than mulch. And we've also gotten quotes on erosion control where the grass will not grow in the spots on both sides of the park. What we'll have to have in there is to come in with a big rake. They rake the soil out. They will come in and they will seed. They will put in the proper type of fertilizer, and then they'll actually lay sand over it when you see the golf horses and they do their best overseeding there. That work can't happen until spring. Typical were metagraphs, is it the VM archer April? But the island who votes, that's ready to go for this fall. So just give you an update on progress we have for that the landscaping contract. I'm sure you'll hear more about that this evening, but we are getting closer with our bins to have that in place so that will be contracted out. In questions on Blurmo Park before I switch gears. That wasn't so many because we made a clear word of one that some things happened and took all of us into the address that we were looking for within the other planets. Absolutely. We're excited too. So for Privat Park, you've seen the plans where we had a total park layout and we opted to do some phasing into that. We have gotten quotes back on phase one for Privat Park. That's I never back to the Parks and Work Committee to want to make sure that we have everything that is being asked for, and then we will bring that to you for approval. And then lastly, just a selfish plug for Stalin's pass that's coming up on the 23rd, our banners went out today. So if you start getting questions about that, the information is up on our town website. It's also up on our Facebook. Aaron will also be pushing it out as we get closer to the event on next door. I believe it's already out on Instagram, social media. We will have a digital parking pass that we will email out to you as council members so that you can park directly in the park parking lot for the event. The event is from 12 to 6. You can arrive as early as 11 if you want. We'll have lunch available before the event. There will be a booth for meet the council. Of course, you're also encouraged to roam, you know, get to the other community, but you will have your own space like in years past. So if you have any specific questions or things that you need, we'll have the normal setup for you, but we are looking forward to having you there and we're pretty excited to have our event back. It's not fully Stalin's best yet this year, but we're excited to actually be providing live outdoor events for the community. And that's all for me. Thank you. Thank you. And final question is there's some flammable in the issue. We're ending at six o'clock so there will not be any fireworks this year. And there will also not be any of the larger amusement rides. Of course, after this year we'll're going to get started planning on next year. So. Thank you. This course, are you planning on recording the scene? Yes, I wanted to remind council, check in his packet that went out to you. We actually put a copy of the five year plan that we updated over year after we budgeted past, the budget development to serve. And that hasn't been done for this year. So the numbers have been updated in the plan when we got to you. It's like this. And I would like to kind of go over this. At the next meeting, I just wanted to kind of go over this at the next meeting. I just wanted to counsel the hat about a month in advance. So you can look at it and kind of read it. I'll give you a couple of highlights. We've actually looked into revenue installations. Reason about almost a three percent escalation in the future, a future year, five years old. And expenditure is actually escalated more than that for 4.37. So as you can guess, with the tax rate that was chosen by council, if we use this 3% escalation and the average of expenditures, eventually we start losing fun amounts as you go out in our years. It's actually growing for a few years and then towards the fifth year of CAB increase. But that's all explained in report. You're looking at the very, the very classification of the report. It does show the effects of the capital projects on our fund balance. This is probably one that we want to look at quite, you know, really study this one. And also, you know, I think councilor concerns other purchases and things that have that would affect these balances as well. But if you have any questions that also wanted to reiterate, if you have any questions, I also wanted to reiterate. If you have any questions, please call me in. I'll be happy if you guys are anything on here. I'm actually talking about me. I hear a lot of the news about the inflation, the inflation. In a constant sense, it's just how is that that that our body and our health as a task, this year? Because it's somebody's not for potentially be lost on a 12% of our eye and how we should. We have really experienced it much in the town last year. I don't see it. I think that the staff scheduling and with being in the office, you know, working from home, it does save money because you're not using supplies and things you're in the office. It seems like everyone is equipped with those things that they may need to have. You know, whether it be coffee or just simple things, it does add up. If you've got an anonymous pool, I was there and here's applying these things to them. The other thing we've experienced more expense, I know, on the park on the right side, obviously, you're cleaning equipment more often. And the other side that we're seeing a difference, I know that the PD has also seen quite an increase especially during binding cars, the prices of those have gone up as well. So there is an escalation factor in the salary future, and that actually for that does go by cost of living each year and it will affect future years. I know what those things are. If we follow our pay policy, it can be affected by them as well. I'm just curious. So, Marsha, so I heard you correctly. The five year forecast it dissipates of 3% growth in revenue, and then includes, excuse me, a 4% plus of growth in expenditures. Yes, it does. And to Steve's question, I know it's on the very explaining, in two sentences, but is inflation a part of the projections in the health show? Is that a very question to that? It is. And we've gone by, you know, most analyses unless you're getting into something super, super elaborate. We'll look at your average growth and try and control your expenses to that point. If we see that jump you're talking about, we will adjust it first year. So I think that inflation factor, this is going to be a big year for us in change as well. I think that depending on how the economic indicators come out at the end of this year, that's really going to impact what we would want to do in the future years as far as this relationship. I can't them hide because it looked like, and I only used the last two years growth to even bring it closer to home to where what we're dealing with right now instead of looking at a five-year girl that I would type it into. And then I also did a lot of, you know, what are those one-time expenditures that we pull out that we are going to do in the future? And, you know, we did that and grew that base for our operating costs. Then we have the CIP on top of that. So those bigger expenditures that we decide to recap with type items, we add it to the end. And obviously those prices will probably grow as well. Until we've been there, we really won't know. just briefly and then if anything is offline, you can just explain to all of us the 3% or 2.98 escalation. Is that based upon last two years I've heard you say, or historical? Expenses, I look, to start with. The way that they have to be. I adjusted, I adjusted my beginning point. So what I did was I took fiscal year 22, I removed all the CIP items from it, and I escalated that number by department. And the expense. Yes, expense. Yeah. The revenue side, I looked at an average for us. Okay. The revenue side, I looked at an average birth for us. The biggest factor here is truly our taxes. And while we reduced our rate and kept our, it wasn't revenue-triple, but it wasn't a rate that produced more revenue. It looks like the more revenue for the town this year as a whole, I feel to keep up with the expenses, it may become to that point where a revenue increase, the only way to really get it would be a tax increase. Good, thank you. I know that it doesn't make me popular with that. I'm going to give you a little bit of a question. No, it's just a full-time challenge for us. Or a hard-to-give, if we keep going. Any other questions? Any other questions? A lot of questions. OK. Thank you very much. So, we have a more than a missing thing. No, no, no, no, no. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. We will go to the critical off the agenda that we need to add one of our ironing processes, which is ironing up. We have on their general set to pursuit on four sections by and six, but we also need to add three, which is a common point of privilege. So when we get to that, we want you to find the way to that. That's the one of the change on the way around. The changes, the discussions, the subtractions. I was hon out. I looked like 10A as a request to talk about having a information request for staff. You know, to be more the discussion we have changed from the thought of that. So you're adding an item to the link in direct staff to research that the issue that missed a filter product. Right, because we think one of the things that was brought up in our recap, although we're not doing properly, this is a, that is the official question for us. Do we? Um, this can come to our chance. Yes, ma'am. Do we need to do the at the narrative. Just instance. I don't know if I just go ahead and do it that way. It's out there in the area. I hate to wait another two, because that's just. Can you make that a champion? Not to belabor it, but in my sense, is when we ask Alex, do you research, do you even do that? Correct? You need an act. There's the same thing. I have the check wounds back here, it's fine because that feels like we're going to start adding out of the agenda every week just to go tell staff or request staff to give us information that we could do. But that's important. I'm curious. I don't want to belabor the physical item. to have to give us information that we could do. But that's a poor man. Here, I don't want to delay the meeting with this whole idea or so. Okay. Well, my opinion is that this is brought up as a meeting. And I have a different way of dealing with the staff for us. Yeah, so I think there's a lot of different ways we could do it, whether it be on, I think the key level of one of the ways is to schedule your information for a singular council member who raises a particular request and presents something that's important to that particular council member. But it's a lot of ways to be entirely and obviously thecule acts as a body. So I'm able to live within the speed, and I kind of make sense of the urban consensus there, because that's the right thing I agree. To that research, I've really been with Russell Speed Study, previously on the stereo, and kind of early man. The back of our agenda, I think it's a good way to do it, it was a way to add it to the agenda, maybe to stay. And you're done, you're spending a lot of your information or voice. But I do think there's a way over the back Texas variety into the event to our worst staff because we have a lot of counsel in the Bruce Pet Friday, your detective wrestling over the council of the bodies, priorities, and during that silence, the case with these two men, but I didn't hear any resources. One of our biggest agreements for the world's largest outtime, and we're making sure that we're building that towards operational and coastal problems. Very nice. Now I'll start by telling you what you said, I think Adam's didn't use say that because it was a consensus with the practicality, the speed limit in a situation, we don't need that on tonight's agenda. The chicken situation we've made on my house on the discussion on that. So we can add the 10 A, but let's not put the 10 A at this point. End crosswalks. Very good. Those two are tied. You have speed limit in crosswalks. Thank you, man. Don't mind. OK. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Those who are tired of this people in the camp cross-months. Thank you. Thank you. Tell them what you think. Okay. So, I'm like, I'm like, you know, I'm very honored to be here with those changes. Yeah, I'm going to be with the privilege of our changes. We've added item ten and eight information requests for that. We've got here chicken ordinance. And I don't want if I can ask, stay sexy, or if I can create a level of three. Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Okay. Okay. A couple of questions. A second. I have some short moment. Okay. Okay. So we want to see if the agenda with those changes can actually be about the answer to talk about the technical briefly and it's normal lives. It's normal lives. Everyone, sing the memo. This one's a little long time coming for us. So we started the master plan. The recreation agreement lays back in 2018. It was adopted by Council in February 2019. We identified three different modes of implementation that first being policy based, where we would use our development agreement process to leverage the trails as we built by developers as that process went through approval. And then second would be identifying key areas for improvement, either through sidewalk retrofits or NCDOT improvements, or expanding the Carolina Bridge trail, those were those I've been for. And then the third has a town part in properties or on properties that we already owned, building out our trail system that way. This trail was the first one identified on town property. The actual entire trail would connect the item well market and in through Blayroomil Park through the Whitelands area. The portion that we have been working on since June of is the big relig of the Glitterwell Greenway that actually connects from Steven's Mill Road and all the way up to the end of the town property behind the green neighborhood. We did multiple public engagement meetings, had a greenway committee that worked with us, went through COVID, had some setbacks, got to our 70% design phase, and then last year we actually came to you with two additional issues. One of those was NZTO to you requiring us to install Hawk Vegan for safety concerns that actually triggers an entire traffic stop. So you hit the button, red light comes up, traffic stops, and then you cross the road. And the second one's, we needed some easement, worked down there so that we could re-align the entry for an easier and safer crossing, and some other aesthetic issues and safety concerns along the trail corridor. So now we're at the point where we've had our easements, while we've had our hawkscote work completed with the CTO team, engineering is there, and we're ready to give you a recap. I have our consultants here from, you guys know Eric from Destination by Design. So he's gonna give you an update from their standpoint where we are and I'm gonna turn it over to Marsha for her to talk to you by everybody's favorite thing, the budget. And tonight what we're actually seeking from you is authorization for us to take the necessary steps and actions to bid this project, which is the big report of the William Oak Requite. Thanks, much. As everyone knows, we had our budget process and the cabin project improvement plan. We did include $550,000 for this portion of this green line. There is some good reason this. We actually have received an additional $18,336 in the fees and loan part of the line. So that's additional funds available in the restricted area of parks and fees and loan part of the plan. So that's additional funds available in the restricted area of parks and parks and recruitment. So this actually can be used. The plan originally was to use 426,000 and 858 that's the funds that we had at the end of last year. And we did budget the remaining $100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, also to William Council so chooses to use these funds. We could use $500, $500, $9,000. And that would mean that we're only taking that restricted funds at that point, or even for the project. And helping with this project comes in, unbited, and we can give this up for this amount of money. But it's a good thing for the town that we, you know, we do have these funds coming in. I would suggest using that versus using understricted funds. These things are already earmarked for that. And they can only be used for projects like this one. And I just feel the understricted money that has no limitations or restrictions on it would be better to take as little of that as we have to for this project. Any questions? I don't know where this bomb's at. I do not know how it happened. I don't know. It's not actually there. I live. I believe it's from there. It was far, but I can check it. It was far, but I can check it. It was one bomb. It was one bomb, so. Okay. That was the worst thing. I think I got that. I think I got that. I was on a connoisseur So, I'm gonna ask the councilman for a dark question, let's go with a question about fun. Okay. All right. I'm going to give you a quick answer. I'm going to give you a quick answer. I'm going to give you a quick answer. Just a quick answer. All the bad decisions. Thank you so much. Good evening. That was a great presentation from Ashley. I'm here for support, for sure. So Air Force, the desensitization by design. I'll run through a couple of book slides reminding everyone of the process of what we've gone through and answer any questions. So at this point, we've completed the agreement design engineering, which we've done quite a while back. And we got to a place where we actually submitted the documents to NCDOT, obtain the agreements that come across the roadway there. And that happened. That's what took us into the entire hog signal. So we had a thing fully designed, what the OT got kicked into the hog signal, had to do the traffic analysis, had a design law, and they now internally give us the thumbs up on the entire design, and we're now fully into the encroachment process once again. So all of the part about our performance, as many of you know we work with the Vigory over the course of quite a few months to secure those easements, the hog system design and the mincee duty has been done. It's now officially in their system and we are of course looking towards going to bed which is kind of the call to actually here. The length of the trail, such a here, is approximately 2000 feet, maybe a little bit less entirely within property control by stowlings except for a few areas, the pinch point area where we can commit to doing some landscape type of items there. The private biggest benefit is the entry crossing that you see here in the area number three. And this is where in terms of having to remove the guardrail or get a trail down there, we actually go onto the HOA property, create a nice little turn to make the project work much better. You can see that here. So at this point, we're going to be into HOA property, one of the easement. There it's insecure. And you see the entry way, you see the brick. This is a stamped concrete concept that we have here. This is how it's presented inside the DOT and crocheted a ribbon. I push back on that at all. The other alternative, of course, is to do your standard big white strips. So this would certainly be an elevated design. That being said, and here you see how the HALP signal kind of has got incorporated into this design. And the HALP pedestrian's from Beacon. Okay, so big considerations, obviously in cost time. Both of those that are trying to organize, you can imagine, are up in there. When it's not just cost is getting the hawk signal, everything is manufactured right now, it's taking significant amounts of time. So there's a variety of factors there, but one thing that we're going to do from a big sampling and a consulting sampling is to create a couple of add-off minutes through here, inside some big packaging. So the primary or the basic thing we're actually going to do, the NCDOT, how to visit the OEMC crosswalk. So that's what you see here, the light. The preferred design from an aesthetics standpoint would of course be the thermal plastic and put it in asphalt. One of the challenges of this type of designer is to do this, you'll often make us go back 50 or so feet and take out all of the payment and then redo that whole area. You can't just go ahead and just do this one area necessarily. So that can result in a $20,000-$30,000 type of expense to have that one simple aesthetic there. So let's go base-bid with the standard crossing with a bit of all and say, okay contractor, what would you charge if you did this upgrade? Then you all can buy one of that when we haven't been committed. The other bit alternative is this stocking's Greenway sign. So you all see this stuff is greenway signage. You all see the new greenway signage ticket that's been done at the new multifamily there test. That same signage is inside our bit package. We're going to do an alterable. We remove that. We think that staff here with other signage that you all have in the queue could package all that to a signage manufacturer and now have to pay this contractor to touch that particular item that could potentially say you could say $75,000 to that type of approach. The only other bit of alternative that we have discussed in our office is the landscape in peace and we could pull back on that as well. But I will say that this presentation is kind of hard of everything that we presented to Vigorians over so we feel like we just wouldn't be filled for commonly so we can get that in there. If that being said, I mean, at around $550,000 a budget, you're looking at around $350,000 a linear foot before we're in like construction. That's a pretty healthy budget. I mean, of course, you get the hawks in, that's in the whole way to do that as well. And some decent lights, maybe. But I think at this point, we have to take this to have a bit and see how competitive the market is. Any questions? Any questions? I think that you're seeing the sign. Are you saying that the width of the sign is an out and, the will and we made more sons in the future? Yeah, we would remove it, we could create a bit of it all, and see what the contract was going to build this entire re-way section with charge to get that sign built and installed as part of this project. If that's a competitive price that we just leave it in there, but in our experience, and based on where you are at, doing other signed pieces, it might be more financially advantageous for you out of package that sign in with some other signs you're doing, like whether it be the park sign or other signs, and put a part of that package we accept. sign in with some other signs you're doing, like whether it be the park sign or other signs and put a part of that package we accept. So, I didn't understand. So the sign is so big that it just might be distrusted and stopped by someone because I think that they'll get in trouble in the project. That's very, very important to watch. Any other questions or comments? Just about the budget. The estimated cost was $5.50, and then there's spend in LA because of various things, the hall beacon, and others. You get a sense of that, the latest cost will buy the ship to Goodbit. And what would you say? It's $350 per linear foot of green light. And you're right. Yeah, that's it. You said that's a healthy budget. Did you mean that here. Yeah, that hit that one. Is that a, you said that's a healthy budget, but you mean that's a good, that's an expensive project or a good price for what you're getting at. Yeah, yeah, I mean, years ago we could go greenway for under $100 of the living your foot. That's paved. Okay. You know, that's obviously changed a lot. You know, there's no retaining walls here. The only other factor that can come into play is soils. That's the other factor here. We know that there's been a lot of trucks that have gone along this corridor back and forth to deal with the sewer and all of that. So that is going to be helpful. But that's one other factor. We can hit into some places where we need to get it in some sort of bringing in some of the connection, correct? So that can become a factor. Um, much of wise. Don't take this the wrong way, because I don't, I forget the design. But as I know now, it will finish at styling, excuse me. I don't know. I'll build you that what it is called the project at the behind the air seeker. That the terminates at a point where there is nothing there now. That would be, it is permitted and allowed and approved. It is an alternate cost saving mechanism to not take it as far and complete it later. And is that giving you, this is what we've thought don't answer now, but if we go over budget, how far down the past victory could just stop and serve victory and then build the rest later from that project develops? I think that this project in a third of a mile is basically short as you would want it to be. I would definitely take this to your properties and expect whoever develops that adjacent track connects right to it. And this is going to be a nice album back and we'll connect it to Blair Mill. It's a third of a mile. Okay, thank you. If we're looking at two mile trail, you can cut it back, maybe. Happy. That's nice. Thank you. I think our main point is some material for the head. It sounds more like composite, it's not just frown, is it? No, this will be paid. This will be ten foot wide paint. So the idea is things are flood, as we all know, and we build a lot of green lights, and there's a lot built here in the city of our building flood lanes and floodmills and so on. But yeah, asphalt, and be able to go out, clean it up, and be ready to use. So that's the goal. And you talk about a stamp, pay them up there, and you send them a pay, but I think you may have a lecture, I think you may have just upgraded or enhanced them for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't really sell them for me. No, you're okay. It's okay. You could catch them, yeah, upgrade would be a bit better. I actually thought they might have been good, but I'll say it's worth a traffic. Possibly it's just coming to their hand. I have a proper patron, a sit-down, stubborn, traffic on that road. So, they'd be interested to see how that works. I thought this was an ETC decision to lower the speed limit through there and with the growth of that, this is the way we were forced to deal with the issue. I think there were color alternatives that compelling this is where we are. I'm sorry. This is food that was 35, who's still on title off. Now, I'm trying to remember, I think that I think it would lead down to the 35, where we're able to then do the rapid flash date, which is solar power, and the one power over there. Less than $20,000 operation, essentially zero, like very normal design fees. Instead of being a kick-damp in this, which required us to pull in the specialist to design this, and then you can drop 150 grand on the same shirt. Now it's a two-way decision. Yeah, and staff here worked real hard and they worked hard, but they built their buildings now. Okay, so what you ask the council to do tonight is to offer us a new tool to project out to the end, to build a square wave according to the design of a group of pests. Is that the action you were going to hold? Yes, I believe in the memo, we have a couple small things that staff needs to wrap up with the encouragement, as well. So the way we worded it was to authorize the staff to take necessary action to bid the design greenway project. I think that's on your agenda in the box. I'll make that motion. All right. I'll make that motion. Make one motion to the authorized staff take. This is a say yes to build the big green green of the Larry Mall Arena. Thank you. That was a second. A second. All right. I'll leave that. Okay. Good. Good. Okay. I'll have to make that motion. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And the next item is this necklace. I'll go now. Can I survey it? I'll be here for the rest of the time. I'll be here. Can I survey it? I'll be here for the rest of the time. I'll be here for the rest of the time. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to ask you to do that. This is another method. Part of our team trying to handle the truth that we have. Because we have a downtown survey and more than two people are currently now. We've heard from each other and we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we did put some funds in the budget to do that, which you pass. But I believe we have a great opportunity to start a partnership with Western Carolina University and their Public Policy Institute. I spoke with the head of that Public Policy Institute, and he is willing to add our citizen survey to his graduate program syllabus for the spring 2020-22 semester. So it would be next semester. And you can see there in your packet, the scope of the project, but basically it's everything from A to Z. They would help the council formulate the questionnaire because as I'm sure you're aware of survey questions, it's a very specific science. You wanna make sure you're asking the right questions, I'll leave you're aware survey questions. It's a very specific science. You want to make sure you're asking the right questions leading question, etc. And then they would also hand all the printing and distribution of our questionnaire whether the council wishes to do that in mail or a digital or both. They do have ways to make sure that you're not capturing the same citizen twice if for some reason they try to do both through male and electronically. They would also do all of the data, entry and analysis and they would also write up and then do a presentation to the council prior to the end of their spring semester, which is while that specific date is there of May 15, 2022. And then depending on what's going on in the world at that time, it would either be in person or via a Zoom presentation to the council. So these graduate students would work directly under Dr. Cooper, who is the Director of the Public Policy Institute, their Western Carolina University, and they would only be charging us what it costs them to print the survey and mail, etc., which they have calculated to be around $7,200. Okay. Can you see them? I love it. You actually love the D&T bags. I think it's so. Thank you, Eric. Yes. This, this, this, I'm going to say no right here to the police. Just a, I don't know love to make motion to prove that. I'm not even actually... Well, just to put it that way. The practical use of this and I'll support them. And I will support this, but just point out that it will be a liberty person for theism to the end of our budget process. So we're gonna ask for a pinion, until it's important. They're gonna do a retreating February where we build the size of things and then we're gonna get a survey that will tell us what this town says. Didn't feel right, but I understand it's a semester project. So that doesn't make me not only improving the price as good as it is to get just out of the a worm sometimes, and it's one of them now that, what else you can be going to learn more simply? And I know it can, because it's a January semester. So, thanks for that, I guess, as my only point, where would we be in a budget and made, and if we learn something, where we'd be able to pivot? Just a comment, I'll support it. I think it's worth knowing. And I can use for the following year. But I can't go out the way I said it. Is it possible when you gave some preliminary or early? It's a question. I mean, I can definitely ask that question. I guess it just depends on how they work it into their syllabus and the exact nature of the project. I did ask Dr. Cooper if this was a pretty deep he could give us a specific time on it. He can't do that. So as soon as I let him know, yes, you guys want to do that. He can provide us with time on it. So when the government is on-prem, the decision went on, but on the channel that he says So, I'm going to have to recover some of the equipment, we're not going to count the anti-systems, or we're going to have to be passed to the south. Yes, we're going to pass to the south. And I think this is definitely a really good thing. Thank you. A great chat. So, I have a question from Mr. Schoell. Is there a second to, or is there a second to, is there a second to, is there a very good arm and leg. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And I have an idea on this, and I'm going to be pretty exciting because you did even the answer. You're on turn over to you. Sure. Well, waste connections approached us a while ago and asked if they could discontinue the, I believe now it's called recycling perks. It's had a couple of different names over the course of our contract. And that is actually through a third vendor where citizens, if you're not familiar, can sign up and receive coupons based on the amount of recycling that is done in their area. It's not through waste connections, it's a third vendor party that they contract with to offer that. That type of recycling park was in our contract from the very beginning and they wanted to discontinue it due to the low use of our citizens. Only about 2% according to the downtown wide have actually signed up to use the program. And that doesn't mean 2% are using the program. That's just 2% have put in an email and say, OK, I want to do that. As you all are well aware, recycling in world bought has become kind of a national crisis and we actually accept less recycling now due to what recycling plants are taking. So that's why I believe some of these types of programs are going by the way side. And the types of perks and coupons that you can receive through this third party vendor have also dwindled over time. So, as mentioned, as asked if we can get rid of that, that costs them approximately $4,000 a year. So, in return, we asked for a couple different things and finally settled on the two things that you see there bulls it in your packet. The first is, as you may remember, the town offers two annual shredding events per year offered through shredit. They will now be the event sponsor for these events and pay for the entire event for both of them each year. At a cost of, right now, that cost is 20 to 15 per year for both events through shredit. And then we have also negotiated that they would also contribute $2,000 to whatever event the Parks and Rec is doing at Christmas each year of our contract. So that comes out to 42, 25 per year. So we feel that that's a good replacement as in the Shred days as well as the Christmas events can benefit all of our citizens if they choose to participate. can benefit all of our citizens if they choose to participate. Okay. Any comments? So what will happen to see now? What will happen next? If you do approve moving forward with this, we'll bring to you at the next council meeting a revised amendment to the contract that it's very simple but just stating we replace these items with the recycling. I mean replace recycling perks with these items. We're on 2023 as our contract expires. Alex, we've actually been already investigating some, you know, what different costs would be and we can bring that to council at another time if you'd like as Indian trail just went out to bid on there. Solid waste contracts and the the prices that they came back would probably surprise you. The quiet. Just in a real calm, we're getting a really good deal. Yeah. The quads that Indian child came back to the ask for their big tabulation are substantially more significant than what we were expecting. How much do we need now? I mean, like for you, I just need all of them. I don't know that. I know it's about $12.65 per household per month for garbage recycling in yard waste. And that also includes our bulk pickup that we do manually. Okay. Any other sessions? If not, you're coming at two, a question to a pretty quality. Not being out there for less to have said, bring out of the west to our headset, bring us a stand-up to the contract. So. I can set a second. I'll set. I'm going to set one on the table. Hi. Hi. Thank you very much. And now we are down to the right and the set of our patient map. I want to request from Mr. Schell to talk about the panel of the panel. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well, I mean to be real honest, but you sent me a really good email today. I have a chance to study myself with other people. If you don't mind me sending them to the rest of the staff, you you were being Senate and the rest of the staff is turning that on council. So we're all on the same table as far as that background information that we understand is going on here. So, the main purpose of why you triggered that discussion was that becoming more more clear that our roads that we were responsible for, or the remersion, a amount that we are getting from a state that doesn are hitting for the state, it doesn't mean what we need to be paying out to take care of the growth of the act. And whether it's acting well or not, I think more we understand how this, how it will, as much as it works, how it's calculated, it means what towns are getting more than us, which I think is the case long for mile they are, whether we need to lie, or whether it's not the use even possible, or whether we just need to know. And in the other second part of this, what are our roads going to cost us, whether we get reimbursed from Powell or not, can't even know how far behind are we getting ever here because of these worlds deteriorated. So I think we're at the $600 or something of $600 or $600,000-ish bucks this year. And we're still not even, you know, we're still falling behind. So two things, how will maybe lobbying perhaps, maybe maybe not, but we need to know what the actual cost for these to make these probably so we can figure out how we're going to get out of this. Red do however we can generate the revenue in past or to how they'll be lobbying or whatever. So that's kind of where I'm at. Let's question. How do I have a little bit of an indication to that? I think we jumped off cook. It has to come. He could, a lot of cook is actually a cook for us. I don't know. He was the second chair of the crop the club and more than years, he still did that for the designate capacity. The power of one was 75% population, and 25% were the max that the ten and ten. And that's how towns like Indian trade we have people but they don't maintain all the limits. Yeah, we have more money than we did. So I think I understand you gave an interesting offer for us to perhaps ask the power to be to look at that one more year and make a better look at what more equitable. I mean, think about it. What's the population at home? Well, it has a little bit, but it's the mass of roads that I have to get. And the cost that you spend that time because it makes a lot of sense. The last time, on formal exchange was in 2017, the logic, no, no, no specifics about that. So we go after a little more research, and I should be glad that I'm creating this legislation who says that for one more time. We have an event that we end on. Discussions will just say, what are you saying? After you want to inspect something. I can speak a little bit of that. So previously the parallel fund was tied to the with that. So previously the power of the fund was tied to the gas tax programs. And when it was changing, there were two ways that schools involved, you've missed four percent. One of the other things I needed, for example, this is the idea because gas has threatened the early end of the rain. It's people out of electric cars. I don't know how to turn this. The second, different way of looking at it is, what I believe, the general said, we just want this set as a way of building a line. We're still all in the sort of, because they want to cut what we've set out of a period of time. But it's an aviation bullet, hands- mode hands true as you say, correct. So. Well, 2017 is on this hot year's forecast. And then it was more than this in that. Legislature is looking at a whole lot. It's one of the times the fun people were. I think that would make more sense that we have any resolution maybe or a letter, just plainly. But we need to, I guess before we do that, we have to fully understand all of us understand how funding works. Come to the agreement that we are probably not getting as much as we need, which I think is almost obvious. And that other challenge of getting more for the same or for a few of the minds of the roads. And then make that determination and make that that's the case for the state-level leaders. That we need to rectify that underfunding of our roads. I will send you all the information on behalf of the law cook today. They have a couple links in there. So everybody has the same S1 implementation. And I would like to send that to you. So could we focus on Pedro Genda and the South Pumaramo Resolution on the White Area? We have to get back to where we can finish. Yeah, this wasn't a decision. So, what was the, what was the, what was the, what was the, what was the, what was the What was it that it knows this when was it divorced from their gas tax? My understanding is it was a 27 inch somewhere in there Age or And that drove probably the leading proportion to population because essentially more people were paying more gas which meant they get more money back. It's just been separated from that logic, maybe that's the opportunity. I don't think a letter from our town will do anything from good. I think it would be an exercise of utility unless your partner does other light town. So you can go to the West Virginia Group and maybe we can take it to the county commissioners. You then in trail in the West community? Any trail is not okay, any beer. But in one of the same ways, like computer cities, there are probably even dozen across that state that maybe are like us with similar and maybe a partnership. Well, Canada begins with just like that first step. So we're the first step Well, it kind of begins with just like that first step. So they did the first step. That's important. And that's important to get the first step of our work. I'm just trying to think through, right now, it may not get anything. But we have to understand where we are, where our deficits are, and if we're not, if we're not gonna get it from the power we have to figure out where we're gonna get it from all the revenue. And one of the problems with the Wilmaux is just so you know what it is. No. Hold one of their towns and then Wilma actually uses power there. The rest of them don't have any roads that they have. So it's all state-run, it's a work. The same apartment question, I just wanted to ask you. I mean, I think that what I on the last meeting we talked about, you know, we're contracting how, and we're going to get a lot of data on where our roads are. And that's not supposed to be done for a few months. And it does seem like, will we be that to determine how much money will not be done? Okay. If I may, it sounds like I'm a racer, but I do not think we need to do the policies we get some more money. I think if we get those in the other individuals around, we'll say, okay, we need more money. The next question is going to be very how much. And we don't know yet what we're going to find out because we're produced, we're resolved with new policy and so what I'd suggest is once we're in that process we will be able to identify the nearest scenarios and say okay to get an ex-level student in service or apply what I have to ensure. And then we can go into that conversation where the meantime perhaps go into sharing information learning ourselves and about how it all works. So, really this is the issue. Is that good at? No, we're not ready to go to any legislators or anyone else just yet. But when we have the numbers, we know in fact that what we need, that's what we can start going and saying, here's not much for being underfunded. I assume we'll be underfunded, but we won't know about pretty much each other. We won't know exactly how much until we have that information at hand and what we have, that we have more information in the facts that will help make a case. Absolutely. And what I do is I'll take the information and the error of the absence that do us a few hours ago, send it to the ward and then make it else better there. And that's how it was. Good story. We get about 100,000 year currently due to capital cost. Is there about 100? Yes. Yes. I'll do a check back and file a link once I can see now. But it's running for $1,000 on a recollection. I'm not getting too little to to listen to all of them. All right, so the election on the side of the end date, the next item we can ask are requested some discussion on the right way and the song calls, but the question on the side is. Just for discussion tonight, and we're going to move to the team but I have three instances in the last month or so where I've been received to the toll of residents cutting by the way along their sidewalks and saw one that I've learned on the park by some of myself and then I heard one of my stallions wrote New Year's schools and I forget where the burger was, but they're doing the same thing, cutting right away. On their own initiative, because we weren't taking care of it. And I forget the late was a month or two ago, choice, she came up and talked to us. The weeds overgrown, and I don't think that's what we, but I appreciate the volunteers, I really don't think that's what we appreciate the volunteers. I really, really think we would want this council to have our best, but forward as part of the appearance, to take care of our landscape. We would like our residents to take care of their land, their land, their land as well. We'd not send a good example of what, but all of a week. Last spring, I sent you all the pictures I had taken around the town and it was, I think at that point, we decided to ask for outsourcing. This work had been done and we still not sure we had the results that we want. Maybe we need to talk about what we want to do and what we want to accomplish. And Brian, I think you prepared to give us a little information on your discussion with members to ask the questions. Yes, ma'am. We actually was around the first of October. We did put this out to be it. And we got no response. Nobody wanted to be it. In fact, one of the vendors actually called to temple they were willing to be it just because the roadside were so far from it and it just wasn't worth it to. So with some big morning and stealing we put it back out to be it and I got one landscape vendor to come back and actually give me a be it.'re going to want to have there's numbers right now, but even to get them to agree to it, they wanted to have Blur Mill Park, Red Sides, and Town Hall, all this part of that. So even with the bid's, we have, look at the numbers, we are still going to come in under budget with what we've seen so far with what was budgeted with Blur Mill Park through Parks and Rec and perrobes us through us so we're dispermant those numbers up but I would say we should then come back to y'all and that's meeting and we see y'all's approval to go ahead and proceed with this vendor. Do we have history with this vendor? We don't but they are a national vendor. They're very well known and they have a few reputation. Okay. Okay. Good news. Thank you. The problem. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. The next two items only agenda events that are requested. The first one is on one task, to have some discussion about the citizen in Austin committees. When I was later in my first time that we only had maybe two committees, we had the plan for, we had a policy red committee, and over the course of time, Playing for the National Anthem Red Committee. And it was a course of time when we had a lot of committees that kind of said we wanted to have opportunities for our citizens to be involved in town government. And we had a lot of people wanting to do. To all of these committees that we had, our presentation committee, the ad in Stalk to the world where this creates a transition community, the added, the structure of the gap was the last one we had. We had public safety community, we had a question blocking on all these, but I think at one time we had seven different communities and lots of citizens involved with them. They were their citizens, they were the A's on the castle, and that was something that they were talking to, to facilitate communication between the grids and the castle. Sometime, they were the porcelain town, the policy and the structure of this community's change. And, currently, we have council people chairing most of those communities. And the co-chair is the council person. And the staff person sometimes too staff people. And one or two actual citizens been born. So it's no longer a citizen in bachelor's degree. I think that such as this one still a lot to be involved, I think it's all intimidating for a couple of citizens who's determined for being at number. And number two, one, I'll start the answer. So I think we may have a database that we need. And for someone who they want to have a key or not, they have a genuity or not. But I'm a question whether some of these committees really understand their focus for you, because focus is really needed. So my request to Council is to review the policy to look at what committees do you actually we actually knew and how we would have structures so that we can give this back to services and not have been controlled and made by councilors there. I think that's one, the constant cost, it was very talented, but she had that committee, she had lots of citizens engaged and they volunteered, and then practically ran sevens' tests, it was almost, when it's happened, or when did the committee was the cost of that committee or on that. So that's not what I was going to ask. I'm going to go to here and hear thoughts instead of the heavy. So I'm not sure for all of the thinking loss and changing it to least had so much control by cancel, but I think it's on this memory to call that a citizen, an advisory committee, and it seems to have just been the extension of the cancel inside believe me. And it seems to have just been interesting to have the cast inside of it. Then you were part of that just thinking you could come in whiteness? No. That's because I don't want to. Because I never knew it was a workamp. I was just looking to see like a pull-up in it. And it knows from a point back. Not that quickly, can I find them? But yes, it seems to me we had two kinds of committees, one was a council committee, one was a citizen and the council committee. How I went from there, council committee was, and I came here even which ones were a winch, but there was definitely a council in canceling what I had canceled personally and the other ones was lit, lit, the gates on and I don't remember how or what was the original split of them. Good look, they're there and it made a sense at the time that we could add it a separate beginning and have a little base attention to how they were called. There were two types, council committee, which was a committee of us with citizens that were the committee, which we almost always did. And then there were citizens advisory committees, which the historical committees of the community States, the operation has a clear evidence. The citizens of the country, you know, we don't need to be involved in that. We want the citizens to do it. There's just a lot of things in here for heaven, for us, that kind of stuff. So I'd have to, but I don't know what I really want to do. But, well, there's the text a lot of spare time to meet with these committees. Well, we have probably two main vehicles for our production. It takes a lot of time. I know. It's on the Sarvah, worrying one. You show on the three. So I was at the come, and I had the air. It was probably, like online probably not fully reflashed out. I had a problem at this, but I'm glad you brought it up. I'd propose we set it where I lean now or you get regulatory demands, which is the planning board. I, the maintenance, there's maintenance going on, I don't know what I'm going to let. But it feels like a citizen and advisory committee won with the most active citizens across our town could handle everything else. Parks, historical, they're kind of related and think about it. Maybe even things like transportation roads, neighborhood streets and that kind of thing. I'd be in favor of exploring that. of one of our candidatives in the office, or the audience has a community matters sign on this sign. I think it's perfect. Because what we do in this town, I noticed that I think we'd agree there's maybe a few things to be. There's no sense of community now, we're spread and we're divided, not politically divided by an unshared freeway. So, a community is an insukurity to. So, Aiken and these entities clearly became pretty widely with talk about it. Well, I can finish it on a meeting, I asked about this, was kind of my opinion. And I would like to say that pretty much, so that's what I'm going to do, is not something I'm going to use, or should, but I think it's something that needs to be with everything. You might hear it with the community surveys somehow. One of the most important things, our citizens want, and use that as a launching pad for brand new community involvement community that kind of talks about this. You said you'll be off-cancel, that means you're just a regular citizen, so you'll know that we just have regular. Mayor Pledz impacts, and I'm just going to give you some facts. Councilmember Schell, you're correct. Just there was a committee on committees. And the committee on committees separated the duties into statutory committees, just planning board, council led committees, and citizen led committees. And there is one ordinance for all committees separated in that manner. Well, sometimes just an end hot to me, that means that we do this thing, that means every month, so I mean this would be more to review and that would be nice on some hot but it really makes some lots of changes there. So that's really all I'm getting to do tonight. Just a question on that though. I mean, I know where I happen to believe, or probably how this happens at least from what I've seen. So you get all these people together and it's really energized. And then over time, the energy kind of leaves the committee. I mean, is that how what happens here? Yes, that's the way it feels like every committee has a work in part of it, that's from how it happens. I think COVID has impacted a lot of community work in the last year and now the three years. Okay, okay. It's hard to, I mean, there were active committees and people were actively involved. But I kind of was a little like, we had trying to reach out to the museums and what they had as a catch up. Like I said. In your comments, I have the only one to the next item on which is, I've got a set of public use. But, in the last couple of months, I had a number of people asking me about using this facility for meetings of more than half of my free management, or for basically, I think those were main things that I can't really get out of here. I think there's one thing you could say could be about that. That's where all kinds of meetings were against. I think it was mainly H&W meetings or just small clubs. Sam, glad this was only a gender to talk about it for a while. Well, my favorite is this building belongs to the citizens. It's not hard building, it's not a status building, and yet we're not allowing the citizens to use it currently. So, I'm going to move there and probably asking things that will have to be worked out with regard to security and other staff will have to be present. But I feel like we need to learn a way to allow people to use their ability. So that's not going to be too much time to see. And what I'm going to talk about is seeing a lot of stuff. I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm going to like a talker by it. I'm kind of no, but here's why. No for renting or shooting or reserving this place. That district background on the use of public property, Melanie and the Batman ones, but I think we have to then decide how we will fill when we have an event in the lobby that you can think of an extreme example, but one that we would not like to be in the lobby. Understanding that you should gather in property, much like street sidewalks, blocking off roads for festivals, they all follow a similar thing of impartial fair use. You might not get what you want. I'd be okay with government sanctioned, my name is sanctioned, government affiliated use such as committee meetings or I can't think of it. I think the cautionary point out is that imagine a rally of someone that is in the entrances of your political, social, faith, racial view and you have to let them use the facility because you let a voice out group have a jamboree out there. So put that in the mix as we talk about it, it's a problem to me to think about use of government property and then how we have to be impartial, but you may tell me I'm overstating it, but it's worth considering that. We had the same conversation. When Pleasant Lane's built their family life center, they were going to were running out. They had a problem. Part of what they were doing. They had some of the money back. The same kind of question came up. Okay, so what happens? Okay, it's a wetting, much greater. Okay, what if it's the same as cult demonstrate? You know, using opposite extremes. And they want to run here, here, here, and up, and so these type of questions came up. Yeah, and then just use some wear, tear, that type of things. And I'm not, I'm not, they've been down on this one, I'm open to the conversation. I think it's worth talking about, but I don't want to believe that part out of the discussion of use, protection, services, walls, painting. It's not that big of a spot, right? And I could see in H.O.A. using it great, but I think we just have to think about the worst case scenario of what might we get on the other way this up. What we were thinking were meeting and not party or gathering. So meeting. Just not talking about that. Yeah, just that. Okay, because this particular area is not designed to have gatherings outside, because they were talking about designing a folding screener, whatever going across keeping people away from this area. But we've got some technology here that they need to be protected. So that's not very good. I'm not going to make it from gathering, like just meeting. I'm not going to go to the party. Because I can't get my phone back. She helped me. She helped me. She helped me. She helped me. So those kind of things, we are key parties, or You know, I think I might have fucked it up. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. She helped you. That has to be defined. Bad. It's a little bit. And Brad, you made me think of one. What are the legit uses? I don't know. I think it has to be one of the under. So it kind of sounds a lot of maybe, or not. Do you know what this issue is yet? A long, long, long, long, long, long of the National Council. We would be needed to make a card of this. Now, I'd like to send that piece of right instrument that used the public facility for the public. I just would like some information from our attorney, I guess, if that's appropriate about what are the false. We'll meet in later, not tonight. I mean, on the same thread, and it feels to me like there would be sometimes staff requirements to clean it up, put it together and again, and make sure it's locked up after they're done. So, I mean, we don't really have staff for some days in that. So I think that would be a question. How would it be, I think? I don't think this too much is on the next day. You have the citizens in the email, do that. The citizens were viewed positive. I would have solved the two. We'll say that to you. Yeah, I don't mean to lie. I like the thought, I don't know what we do for dinner. We'll say that, just the few things that we did was a plain. What we did find was that, just, I need to say this, but I'm gonna say in a while, that people did not take care of it. So, we probably went back into the budget that the budget that there would be, that would be your repairs, because we all, every time we went into jail, and we did like six times a week, and all six of those times, there was damage to it that had to have somebody come in the carer. So, just something, a bit about it. Well, in any once in a while, this concern is slightly not what we have community set up. So, I'm not going to be in my next solution for the future. Okay, I'll look at it a little bit, even this, but now, if you're on a regular basis, you can look at my own agenda, which I'm supposed to take a request to have some discussion on, So back here in Chippenville, we have a number of people on. So if you'll be getting on board and want to at least look into how it might be able to do, or at least what the magazine does, or even trail to us, believe it came here tonight. She was speaking, everybody that I knew out that was on next door, that was talking about this, I'd read to Laverby the spokesperson, so she was now speaking through me for the focus that I put on. And so the only thing that I was going to ask tonight is, I mean, there was a lot of discussion about this town does this. And this town does that. Obviously, I can not go out and do all of research for those towns. But I think it's worthwhile to be personally, at least to look at the town around us and just see what their policy is because if we are vastly different than what they're allowing, I mean to me to open the door for additional discussion. But right now I honestly don't know what the policies are around the town's and so I was just willing to put this item just there. As I wanted to basically ask staff just to do research in public towns to see what they actually are on with Walter. Can I just say a quick, I also have had people reach out to me in my district, people who don't live in.A. community. And I believe I sent a message out individually to people to see if they were interested in putting it on the agenda. And I think I'll also spoke to you about it. But the biggest issue was we didn't have, the other towns had somebody to, I'm not thinking of the right word. We don't have somebody to be sure that they're following. They're all controlled. But what are the ordinance? They're your people. Yeah, like it wouldn't be covering. They would be in control. Would it be, okay. Yeah, but, great thoughts and comments. What I'm not aware of is, let's start with a little bit of interval. First, let's see what our neighborhood jurisdictions do as all sports events, because they're the allies for the entire society. And at the second point, having a semester is an annual control officer, having a permanent as a regular check-in, do you have to go check the check-in huts, you know, once a year, does it happen? What does that look like? So, to me, that's too far away. My address over the world, where I'm hearing, how's that sound? That's exactly what I'm looking for. I just, I don't want to take, because everything on the internet is perfectly 100% legit. But, I just like somebody double guess me double jayton well I will tell you historically we had to very precious children come for 10 years ago and they had chickens and they got runny sounds and they couldn't do more the chambers of the Church of the Tisham around. They got support from being able to have the chambers, because they were some kind of special breed of dead childrens. Council members did not request whether to keep their chambers as come or for a key. And then we suddenly discussed as head of request to allow a part of the pigs to be in the medical field and I think on the memory of that position, the person must have not had to do that to be said, there's a lot of writing down those thoughts and this, but I have something that's a good suggestion to get on that socks and the socks are. I don't know if that's a good suggestion. I don't know what the name is. And it's a deal with how they can handle it. In the debate, I mean I will say that the debate also would be able to fly away. So, I mean, both pros and cons, the devil was not there. My position here is that if we're vastly different than the other talents of knowledge, that to be signals that maybe we do at least look at it straight back to the group. So I basically, I don't know how to make that motion, but I would like to make the motion to step, review the fold-free policies of neighboring towns, and then also to look at how to demonstrate that policy. So it's like the thingsion, part of our agenda. And as I said, one of the important documents in the direction of pre-cans that we need to do the procession. So you want us to do the procession, you want us to be a roll of session or a student to the statute that you have before you item response 6, 3, 6 and that will cover all four of those. I don't say that, so. I'll make a motion. Professor, go to close session for our friends. I think, too, as we possibly need to decide the statute and the law is supposed to be the law. So, the transaction is so the problem I'll just give you. Then, it's not going on in general. I'll just give you that. It's on the number one journal, stretch 143-18.118-36. And the real estate cost was $0.712-6007A and $0.712-15. Thank you, okay? Okay. How much? Sorry. $0.7 you. Okay. How much? First, I need to show this. I'm going to pay for the card. So we go over it to the first session. I'm going to give it to us. And we'll go through the first round. And we'll see you later. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's good. I'm not married. I'm not married. I'm not married. I'm not married. I'm not married. Alex, do you want to leave for a move? I was a wish for the Chair of the Act to be a Secretary of State in Jackson. We have a string of transactions to see within the meeting. Our mayor for a ten a time I might suggest to be sort of did by mark in there for at least one of the guidance. And Mr. Cox had wanted to join us as well on talking about the evidence not only. He's not in the debt. But we can probably need to have a motion to allow this verse to come in and celebrate the Council on Medicine, and let the people let me make that excuse. So you can be a writer and a source to you. Sure. Foundation, Foundation. You need that motion to allow motion to go in a close session in the back motion. And then the motion. I mean, making the motion, thank you. And to allow the motion, we're going to focus into the close up. Yes. So, this motion is so okay. Ah. Good night. And let's take the part of the practice. Um, can we do this? Yes. And so, this is good. Good job. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.