Thank you for all the lessons as you give us, town of stallings, we just give you all a thanks during this giving season of Thanksgiving so we just give you all the praise and glory everything you do. Please be with our police officers tonight and protect them and guide them and be with the council tonight and give us the wisdom and do what's best for the town. And everything I do say, give you all praise and glory. Use your name, all right. Thank you. Thank you. The Duke's Hand for the Glitch. I play the region's two five, and the United States of America, and he's very lively, and he's the same, one nation, under God, individual, and the great people of the Church of Israel. Thank you. Thank you. First up is our public time period. If you didn't sign up, we have the seats over there. But we have a public time period. We can talk on any Sunday for three minutes. If you're on the agenda this way for that, that time slot. But no way sign up. So we'll pass. We have our agenda approved with the next. You don't have a consent agenda. Does anybody want to need to make one addition to five paid? What is it again? Mayor, say it's a brief update on you 5-1-1-2, the hotter and pleasant planes intersect. Right. So, three things are ready. Thank you. Come out. So, up to 5-8, anybody had any other changes? The addition of the relations. Thank you, Mr. Prime. All right. So, I'm going to go to the motion to approve the gentleness. The addition of the relations. Take them out. All right. All right. So, I'm going to go to the motion to approve the agenda as a minute. So, motion by Mr. Ayer, second by Mr. Patrick, all right. So, I, I, I, I, First up is the conditional spelling, 21, of 4.01, CZ for the Wilson property. So I'll turn it over to Matthew. Oh, I'll reopen it up again. I'm not a real open-air public engineer. I don't know. Okay. He's giving us.04.01. This presentation is mostly the same so I'll go through a little bit of this stuff that you've heard before a little quicker. I'm going to spend more time on just what has changed since this item was first heard. As a reminder, this is where the project is located. It's Stephen's motor road, 4141-6. Zone MU1, it's been zone MU1 since 2018. Prior to that, it was zoneed up 20. Per use of the land is vacant. There's a grandfather of landscaping to company on the property, but there's no structures built on it, hasn't that all? Here is an aerial. This is a little bit of an updated aerial than what was included on your packet. It's still just pulled from Google Earth, but I just want to highlight two things for you here. Ladies and gentlemen, it's not very large, but this mound right here, we believe is the existing mulch, and this is the new location where it's been kind of moved over to as they're processing what's left on the site. I'll talk about that a little bit more. I just wanted to point that out for you. So this, the history hasn't changed since it was last presented. Basically the reason that this conditional zoning has been proposed is due to the expansion of the grandfathered landscaping company with that additional mulching use. So this conditional zoning application is seeking to bring that into components. Communioning was held on March. It was held on the 25th earlier this year. That book is provided this summary of this meeting. The subcommittee meeting was held. A lot of the nuisance that were brought up for the same as what was in the community meeting. So noise, smell, dust, things like that. When the planning board first heard this item, they recommended it to the Hile. This isn't July of this year. They felt that the agricultural use wasn't appropriate for the area, and they found it as inconsistent with the conference of land use plan. I can talk about that a little bit more as well. Finally, to bring us up to date with where we are today, the site was first heard before herd before Council in August. Council asked for further discussion between staff and the applicants. The town council continued the public hearing to a date on specified in September, and then in November, set this final date of today, the 22nd. Here are some brief pictures on their little small, but they kind of give you a sense of the scale of the mulch on the side, kind of what it looks like. The trees have all long been removed, so it's a mostly open field as you saw from the from the aerials. This is a video but I'll skip the video over tonight. This just goes the right side of the property if you're looking at it from Stephen's mill. This is in 2020 and then this is the left side of the property in 2021. So you can see it's it's kind of mostly the same mulch that big pile that Red pile back here has been kind of progressively moved over to the right side over here That's part of the negotiations that this hair had with the landowner To kind of finish processing what was on the side as they went through this conditional zoning process. So this is their request. This is kind of where first differs from their application. They originally had applied for 15-agg uses or uses that were allowed in the Ag District. A lot of them, after discussions with staff, we found that a lot of them were unnecessary to apply for, just to give you one example they asked for a farmers work it originally, but after talking with the app with an enrollment war we found that they were talking about putting kind of roadside stand just to sell some of their products and stuff, notified them, but that's kind of more of a temporary use we have that already in the codes, you don't have to apply for that specifically in the codes. You don't have to apply for that specifically in your application. So they've kind of paired that down just to the six, most important or most specific uses that they're asking for. They're still asking for the mold chain and planting crops, which I'll go over in a second. So this is not a substantial change from their application, more of just narrowing the focus and making it a little bit more clear with their asking for specifically. So I'll go over this quickly. This is their original site application. Staff felt that this was missing some details. One of the definitions for conditional zoning is it has to be a site-specific development plan, which we have a bunch of definitions, a bunch of things that should be included in that. But the most important part of that definition is that it should give a reasonable understanding of the intensity of the site. And so this original application doesn't really give a good sense of what they're going to use the site for, where does the mulching going to be, things like that. So after discussing with the applicant, here's their revised site plan that they've provided. I can blow this up a little bit bigger for you, but I'll point out some highlights. Right here by the front, this is that area where they're currently moving the mulching over to. This is the area that they've called out now as their mulch processing area. So all of the mulch will be processed in this area and it will not be processed anywhere on the site or stored. This is where they've identified the agricultural planting areas. This is where they wanted to do plant-air cover crops. They've talked about squash and things like that. And then finally down here, which was included on the original application, this is where they've identified potentially putting a single family home in the future. Quickly going over some of our requirements, there is a true save that's required as part of this rezoning application. It's 6% of the law area, which for this law comes up to about 6 acres. That will all be covered by the required buffers, the landscaping buffers on the edge of the property. Those buffers in the tree save area can overlap. So, staff doesn't foresee any issues with them needing to set aside additional land for the tree-safe area. The stormwater management section of the Ornans article 19 have written here that if it's less than an acre land disturbed, then they will be exempt from the stormwater ordinance. staff is confident that they wouldn't need this exemption, but we wouldn't need them thus to provide with us a, you know, survey showing how much area, how much land specifically they're disturbing. If they aren't exempt, it would be a low density development, meaning the only real requirement of that stormwater ordinance will be a 30-foot buffer around streams and ponds that would need to be undisturbed. So you can still cross it, but there's some limited things that you can do in there like utility crossings and roads. I think livestock grazing might also be a lot in that, but I would have to double check that. For the landscape buffer since this would be an axonining the type A buffer would be required on all side except for the road, unless modified by the conditional zoning application. Type A is the 40-foot buffer that's the largest kind of most vegetated buffer. The open space, there is no open space requirements. The open space requirements are based on the floor air being added, even with just the single family neighborhood that wouldn't apply for any open space requirements. Finally, this is the conference of Lanyl's plan. Pretty straightforward. It's called single family neighborhood and the comp plan. An agricultural-based business is inconsistent with that community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. We've been working with the community for a long time. do choose to do all this application. The application did go before the planning board last week with the revision shown. After discussion, the planning board felt that given the more detailed site plan that they could reverse their decision and recommend approval of the site plan with those details and invocations shown. They did approve two conditions. I can explain these a little bit further. The second condition is a type C buffer along the front edge. That was something that was suggested by the applicant that the planning board wanted to be put in as a condition. Point one, the applicant had shown on their site plan a 20 foot buffer, that would be a type C buffer, most equivalent to a type C buffer, along the entire east side of the property from Steven's mail all the way back past Fairhaven. The planning work kind of compromised with them asked for a little bit of a larger buffer since that type A buffer is required. So the planning work asked for just a type B buffer, but in exchange they only asked for it for about half of the Fairhaven they were going to. Those are mostly the houses that would be impacted by the molding activity. I can show you exactly where these vocations of everything are. It doesn't make much sense with just text. And type B is 30 proof? Correct. Correct. And in fact, I'll go over that really quickly. So the planning board recommended the Type C buffer all on the front edge, which is a 20 foot buffer. Believe it is shown on this site length, you can just barely see it right along the front. They did show this entire 20 foot buffer here on this site plan. The plan board requested that to be increased to the 30 foot type B buffer, but stopping right here at about halfway down past that pond. So this is the mulching area that kind of covers most of the houses that are most impacted by that mulching activity. So again, those are the recommendations of the planning board. You can consider those. You can add to those. You can change those. Many I've heard you were great before, but you said that it was a type A law firm, and then now you're saying a type B, you can explain that word with. Sure, so the type A law firm is most required by the ordinance, but given that this is a conditional zoning application that can be modified. So the applicant has requested 20 on the front, 20 on the side. So this is my last slide. I put the plenty more recommendations again on the top there. But we've also added a few staff suggested conditions. Again, these are suggestions. You can use these, you cannot use these, you can modify these. I'll just read these out quickly. So the first one is kind of a generic. We just put that on there, all local, state, and town permits need to be required. The second one again is also just to emphasize that unless the conditions are modifying it, they would have to be all requirements of the agricultural zone districts. So that's specifically talking about things like site setbacks, densities, parcel sizes, if they want to subdivide this in the future, things like that. Condition three is just to provide a rise site plan, showing all conditions. So if this is approved and it is approved with conditions staff would just ask that the applicant provide us with a cyclan kind of detailing all of this so that we can keep this far records. For number four, suggestion four, we're suggesting that the buffers must be installed first. So putting a time period on when those buffers have to be planted and set aside, just so that we're sure that those buffers get put into place. The fifth suggestion is to take that plain and more recommendation of the type B buffer on that half fair haven, and just extend that all the way to the end of the property. The morning here to at least three bar found near about 391. I go back to the cyclan. So that's talking about just right down to here which is right where the fair haven neighborhood kind of leaves the edge of the property. Staff is suggesting that the type B buffer extended at least to there, beyond this point, the houses are set a little bit further back and maybe don't require that level of buffering. Number six, this is a big suggestion. It's hopefully to start a conversation. Steph has recommended that any crop or livestock be limited to a hobby farm. So they have requested that planting area over here on the side. And that Steph's suggested a condition of limiting it to a hobby farm is just to ensure that a full blown farm is in opening next to the fair haven neighborhood. So we'll allow plantings, we'll allow a certain level of livestock that's the suggestion of staff, but this is just still limited so that like I said a full farm isn't open next door. The seventh condition there, suggested condition is just that the mulching be limited to the current processing on the site. The applicant can explain this a little bit more, but from staff's understanding, they're bringing in the kind of raw chips, wood material, they're dying in processing it and preparing it for commercial use. We specifically, staff has specifically suggesting that tool of composting. That's something that staff is kind of aware that mulching sometimes leads to composting and composting produces a lot more smells than just the mulching processing would be. So this is not to say that composting shall not be a lot ever, but if they would like composting staff would recommend that they come back with an amendment to their conditionals only to allow that composting process. I have included a quick definition of composting there. This last suggestion is just that the outdoor storage of materials be screened. The ordinance requirement is a type-deaf buffer of outdoor storage areas. And what staff is specifically suggesting there is that for this mulching area, the planning board recommended the type-c buffer on the front and the type-be buffer on the right, but that leaves the south edge of the mulching and the west edge of the mulching open. Now the applicants do own this property so maybe they don't need a buffer against their own property but we're just concerned that these people on the southern end, the residents on the southern end may want the mulching processing to be screened just a little bit. So that's again, that's just the staff suggested condition, just to put out there that the ordinance does require that screening of a tight debuff error, but that's something that can be negotiated between counsel and applicant. And what is a debuffer? Do you explain maybe in C. What is the buffer? Take D is I believe it's a five foot buffer, is that correct? Oh, I believe it's a five foot buffer. It's the smallest buffer in our inner organs. So it's just to provide a little bit of visual screening. It's not an excessive amount of planting or area. It just has to be against the actual outdoor storage area so they don't have to buffer the entire property. Now buffers on the property can be counted for that screening so the buffer on the front edge that's that type C buffer, that can count for the buffering of the north side of the mulching. So it doesn't have to be two different buffers. But staff suggestion is that at least a type D buffer is provided on all sides, unless it's covered by some other buffer on the property lines. as it's covered by some other buffer on the property lines. All right. Any other questions for my? I just want to make sure that what you showed us here in the one of the works is exactly the same as my setup. It's a lot of the... This, the conditions? Yes, actually. The conditions have changed. I think the site plan has been updated. I don't know. I believe these are the exact same, they should be the exact same. The suggested conditions are exactly the same. Okay, that's all I read here. I just want to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Thank you. All right, you got the question for me now. Mehdi. All right, thank you, Mehdi. And now we're here from the other avenue. All right, thank you, Matthew. And now we'll hear from the other. So I just want to put up this. They provided a slightly revised site plan this afternoon. The only revision to this is it incorporates the planning board suggestions. I believe. So this is the 30 foot, yeah this is the 30 foot buffer now that ends right here just to give you an idea of what that looks like. Thank you. Mayor Counsel Christopher Dagen night, if represent the applicant in this action and that been before you before. Speaking with my client and discussing some of the frustration we've had, about five o'clock, so now's the time to blow up. And I thought I did a pretty good job blowing it off. One of the things that I'm looking to keep in mind is from the very beginning this process has been absolutely mind-blowing. Absolutely mind-blowing. We have what has now been presented three times We have what has now been presented three times to this board to the various bodies in the town. A statement that the violation was set on September and the applicant, nine until seven months later, did they file the application to reach out to the town. I've said to this board, I've said to other board time, as soon as my guys got a violation, I reshuffle link here, I got emails from October. What are we going to do? I send several, let me see if I've got it here. I've sent several plans. Hey, Lynn, here's a plan. What do we want to do with this? What shall I do with this? Now remember, this town is adopting its conditionals zoning ordinance at the time Had I known I want to file an Expediently before you all about this zoning ordinance for the conditional zoning But we provided a map initially to Lynn They had every use on it because I said to Lynn hey Lynn. What do we need to do? She said you've got to put everything on that conditional zoning mat that you might want to have in the future Because it's not on there. You don't get it So can we just go straight to Ag? Doggie can't go straight to Ag. The council won't approve that Okay So I submit a map and this map has several different uses on it It has to drill a quest for your facility to my folks want to have it got two dollars They want to have a lorse on it. It has to drill a quest room facility. My folks want to have, they got two dollars, they want to have a lore sound there. Let's put the quest room facility up. Let's put every use that we could possibly go through the table of uses and say we might want to have on this property. So that's what we did. And the response I got was, oh that's too busy. Take everything off of that map and just leave your accessory structure. Couple buildings, and that was that original map that you saw that was submitted to the town. And before I submitted it, before I came down to this town with the check in hand, I said to Lynn, I said, is this one you want the map? Do you need anything else? No, your application looks good. Great. We come in, and the first thing we hear is there's no detail to them. You know you can't win for losing. So we've gone through several meetings. We've come up with okay we want to know where the mulching is going to be. So that's what we did. Here's where the mulch is. All right, this area here. We have agriculture or planning area. Keep in mind, too, we're going to make. My clients want to do agricultural uses. One plant to discuss a hobby farm with a garden, a hobby garden. Next up, what they're doing. A hobby farm, he's planning to feed his family with this operation. He's not having several workers on air 10. He wants a tree farm predominantly to plant trees. Well, if you don't tell us exactly where you want to plant those trees, you can't do it. There's no house built back here. So this place, a pond you're approval tonight, he can only plant that he's allowed with the stream buffer, which I would argue is not applicable in this situation because of the amount of disturbance in the land. He can only do any kind of agriculture here because that's where we showed it. What we're showing is this mulch pile is no longer here. That's what everybody was concerned about the first time around. This mulch pile right alongside this road, right? So we moved it. Here's where the mulch process is going to go. Trucks are going to come in, drop off, pick yeah, we're not required to have a buffer of 40 foot. You know why? Because if you look at item number three on your agenda, text, text 21.10.04, clarify conditionals zoning intent. You know what that is for? Because we're going from a more intense use of multi-use jurisdiction to a less intense use. And your ordinance currently says, if you go from a less intense use to a more intense use, you need a 40-foot buffer. We're not going to go more intense use. We're going to go less intense use. We don't need that 40-foot buffer. If you not require, I would argue, as the, at the time of the final visit application. Okay, well, we'll do a 20 foot buffer along the front. We'll even do a, we suggested a 20 foot buffer all along the side and it was the, the plane board that suggested the 30 foot buffer. Now I'm coming here in my goal post moves again. Now internally in the side that's surrounded by a 20 foot buffer on the front and a 30 foot buffer down here and if you guys want to take it further down it is going to be a 30 foot buffer on the front and a 30 foot buffer down here and if you guys want to take it further down it is going to be a 30 foot buffer all the way down. Now internally in the site I got to provide buffers. I got to provide screening. So now I've got to go to a 10 foot buffer around this thing that's going to have a 30 foot buffer on the side, 20 foot buffer on the front. Now I've got to have an inch. What am I screaming at for? The mice? So they don't see us, they run around the property. My folks want to continue to operate this multi processing. And yes, that was the initial trigger. They had a landscaping business, they're doing this multi processing. It's one guy. Mr. Wilson, that's it. That's what he does. And he wants to plant trees on the property in some of the trees for us. But if we're a hobby farmer, and we can't use a verous lively lid, then he can't plant trees. He can't do agriculture. He's not going to eat that much fruit. He's not going to consume that many trees. How, how? You know, I thank the councilor, the patients, and my thanks to staff, the patients. I really do. I sometimes cannot be an easy person to get patients with. I get it. But we've tried to do everything. He just wants to continue to operate this business for himself, his family and his dollars. One of the conditions that's suggested by staff is no more than two head of livestock per acre. Is that one cow, one chicken? One turkey, one chicken, two cows. I can't follow it anymore. I don't know. We're mad at our culture. And I have our culture. If you want to have a multi-use, so give me. My clients are willing to accept reasonable conditions. We're willing to put that 20 foot buffer around the front. We're willing to put the 30 foot buffer down to this area here. We're willing to, and we already suggested that we'd have some red oats along this road. And it's in the notes over here. The Eastern portion of the buffer, the front portion of the 20 foot, the driveway of the center, the end panel will plant a row of red maples on the eastern side of the driveway. This is what we're offering. We're providing some, it's going to be a beautiful piece of property. This is where they're suggesting the red oaks. Well, then if I'm going to have to put a five foot buffer of D, which D is every 10 feet or greater than that, you've got to put shrubs. I'd find you find a shrub to hide a pile of mulch. And what's the purpose of putting shrubs in? I'm sorry, but it's just giving to the point where it's I'm looking for things to plant here. He wants to do agriculture. I'm planting more shrubs in an underbrush that I'm doing anything else We're agreeing with Go ahead I'll finish what we're agreeing to these conditions that set forth by the play of the Lord We'll put the buffer in you know we're not required we don't think We'll put the buffer along the road, put the red oaks along the side. He wants to plant. He wants to sustain his family with not only the mulch but salio and some trees. That's what his plan is. We will willing to consider any reasonable condition that this board will set. And that's what the difficulty is about conditionals. I mean, that's what it is. You, the board, get to decide what those conditions are. Then the applicant said, say, yes, we'll go with those conditions or not. You can say, we're not going to approve this unless you meet these conditions. Not a good show. That's conditional zoning. How else do you get to a condition that you, the board, the elected officials don't make those conditions? How do I know what conditions you're going to want if, you know, at the next meeting I'm going to have another sort of conditions? Well, let's talk about it. I'm a prof talking about? It's OK. I'm profused on the triggers. Sure. I like finding trees on the idea. What do you want to find the triggers? With the area? There he is. This is Eric Wilson, who means the depth of. Basically, I'm finally in the front. I want to make it look good. I'm going to dress it up and put a black bomb fence across the front. I want to screen it because I don't want people looking at it in England. Well, you're a pointer. At first you're planning of agricultural trees. Agriculture trees. I mean, I already have... You already have some right there. Yeah, I've already sold like 400 from, sorry, this area right in through here. And here, right beside it, it's considered the hobby farm. Is that where you want to play them as well? Well, I mean, we're not even, this map ain't even, how do I get it to go down there? See that entire back? All of this back in here? There's nothing to do back here and there's, I got one neighbor and I don't think that he's going mine, he's been here supporting me all the time. But this is probably seven acres right here. And you want plant trees as well? Yeah, I mean, that's where I'm talking about planting. But all of this up here, I mean, my dad is planting tomatoes and watermelons and canelopes, all of that stuff. And I don't think that's the issue, but with trees you have to rotate. all of that stuff and I don't think that's the issue, but with trees you have to rotate. So if I want to plant, be able to plant two or three hundred trees every year and four years out. So I'll plant 200 this year, 200 next year, 200 next year. I have to have those different locations, which I can do that if I'm here and I'm back in here. I'm not talking about coming down through here because the soil's not right begin with and the slopes are not favorable. But we can grow, that's where we've had all the water mills and caneloads right up against the property line. So I don't think that that's the issue, but right in here is some of the best soil on the entire property to grow trees, minestrees. All right, so I'm just in the tree park. Now let's talk about the hobby farm where you're saying you can't grow vegetables and things to treat family. I want to feel to have enough cows in the rotation if I want to build feet my family. I said I'm not trying to make a business out of cows, but I don't know how to do that. But if I wanted to have enough cows out there then I want to have, and that's the decision that I'll make out. That back there, this part down in here again, I'm like, pass your that in and just grow the trees right in there, like I was doing originally. Like, you don't see me guys back home. I don't, I don't see any restriction though. Any type of produce planning is in there. But what are the conditions recommended by staff? Again, is the first time today. Agriculture production with crops and livestock be limited to a hobby farm. Farm use cannot be the livelihood of the operator. As an attorney, I parse words all the time. If he sells it as part of his life, if he gets an income off of the face tax, then I'm as part of his life. So if he's growing trees, because that's agricultural production, trees aren't defined as agricultural production. If he goes trees and he sells those trees, then he would be in violation of this especially his primitive that condition is added. That's a concern I have. You're selling those trees now. I got the produce. From now on, I'm talking to the castle. The first time I've heard about Plasaw. The first time we came to a point, man. The first time I heard about Plotsaw. The first time we came to it, you know. I hear a lot of them. And there's no way I will recommend that you have two cows or two chickens or two turkeys or whatever you want to call Plotsaw. And a residential area. I know it's in the new tube. And we won't be able to add it, but we have to consider very even there. Next left we're trying to close the nut in the room there. So to me it's just not suitable place to have cows. Even though the entire neighborhood is surrounded by cows right now. That's on the backside. It's all the way around the backside of it. And the part I say is pointed up against one of the people. The part I was not installed. No, well you have, but 88% of it. And I'm part of it. I'm part of that side of the stall. No, well, you have, but 88% of it is. But part of it is not. Yeah, so. Right against my property. So to me, it's not as soon as we use for something right on a stall of steam and memory. So I got my question. Are you doing your presentation? Yes, sir. So we can invite any questions for Mr. Wilson. How did you turn it? Brian, did you have one? I did. It was a little bit about the frontage before I get there. Staff, or I think. It's not here, anything that prohibits the owner from planting trees in the back seven acres or farming in the back seven acres. No I talked to Mr. Duggan today I told him that it is going to be if you guys do recommend approval of the agriculture then he would be able to plant trees so I told him to remove it from the site plan in a specific area, so he would be able to change the location of the trees. Any plant trees where the proposed single family home is, this is part of this. Yes. Okay, so he's not limited on plant trees throughout the entire property. You're right, okay. Talk to me about the frontage again. This is in a recommendation. It's a question. But we talked about our greenway from north to south. And I know there's a sidewalk that stops at Fairhaven, picks up again, as stylized farms. There is no sidewalk concession here to be town built or owner built along the frontage of this property. Correct. Correct. Correct. I have the else as well. Who's your sidewall? There's a sidewall on the street or other. On your property down the design. Yeah. Good. Thank you. That's what I was asking. I thought maybe you'd talk about it. No, I'm your side. I'm just trying to remember what's out there from a sidewall perspective. Okay, so that remains and that will be within the 25 buffer. Yeah. I think it starts right where the sidewalk is. Okay, thank you. What are you saying? Right. I'm not bothered by cows. I told the manager to that, to me, cows are in amenity. If I'm a homeowner, backing up the pasture with a few cows. So it doesn't bother me. I guess the number and intensity is a question. So, answer his question. Is it one cow, one chicken? Is two heads of livestock? I think that needs to be clarified. And then what's the rationale for the two versus four per acre? Was there any sense of rationale? We did some research on that and we decided on two just as a starting point for the conversation. And it would be two, like no in the art two per animal that bring here. It would be two of us. We have a definition of livestock in our tower ordinance. So the intent was two of any of those. So it could be two chickens, it could be two cows. And it's pervents the nakers as our suggestion. And then my last question relates to Mr. Duggins' contention that he just wants to man the property and manage it. But zoning conditions travel with the land if Mr. I forgive you your name, my sir. Eric Mr. Wilson, if he sold the land as an agriculture use to another owner, these conditions travel with the land. So it could be important for us to limit this because if Mr. Wilson sells the land to another ag use, it could intensify fairly quickly without these conditions. Is that correct? Correct. I said that was my last question one more. What's the general sense of the neighbors that back up to on the fair hate inside? Do we have a sense of what they think about the negotiated terms here? There was one outspoken neighbor who I invited to come to the planning board because he asked to be kept in the loop. He did not offend. There was notices sent out to all of those neighbors for this public hearing. I don't know if any of you are here to speak to it, but we've had no comments from them. Okay, thank you. The planning board guy that was sitting in your chair actually went and talked, he said he talked to like four of my thing. Yeah, Bob. Okay. And he said that most of them were, you know, they've been playing the trees on their side already. And that kind of stuff. Yeah, Bob related to me if it's more of the smell and the intensity of sort of the odors from mulch, which is probably fine and maybe some noise for trucks, but noise from trucks but yeah I get okay that's all I have I have the same question about chickens and cows though as you did so again I have the same question about chicken and cows you did so I'm glad yeah yeah I was just gonna say I'm gonna speak a little bit about the very famous neighbors that saw asked them have the majority of them, even once you don't back up to it, and everybody likes that property to be as, he truly doesn't back up to the action. He's further down along on Yellow Daisy, so although he came previously and seen the most bothered, he has a major buffer between his backyard and their property, so I think he was just upset to be having something to do. All right well this is a public hearing and hear through with your pre-desertion to any of you how you ask for should speak. On this subject now is the time. I'm sorry. Okay. Jamie Lansing, which is 6.30 on NBC Court. I didn't plan to speak, but I would say I would fully support our social use in that spot. I think that's a great penalty for the whole town. I'd love to see Rosad Stans. We have other Rosad Stans that have been shuttered for a long time. I wish it would open so I'd like to see any air reports for you to stay with you again. Thank you. Any other news? That's always a great, pretty long time. We're on the south side of the property. Excuse me. My name is Chris Daniels. I live at 25, 49 in the spring red. We're on the south side of the property. As far as work and center, I am shocked. Let me make sure I heard you try. What I heard was, is that there were two cattle allowed per acre? Is that what I heard correctly? Okay, let's go across the road. Let's not talk about this property. Let's talk about the road. Because my understanding is that I'm just a pretty 250 houses. But we can only have two cattle per acre. Think about that. We're talking about farm animals here. I'm a poor neighbor. Think about that. We're talking about farm animals here. We're talking about agriculture. What this state was found at all. I don't get it. It makes absolutely no sense to me. I think we need to think about that. We support the property as is because it's a single owner, it's a single family and as I've said before if you take it away they're going to sell it, they're going to take profit and we're going to have a North Eastern investment firm coming in and sparsing it out and then there's going to be another 200 homes in that piece of property and And as I said before, Stalin's elementary is about 95% capacity. If anybody's trying to get there in the morning, it's five times as bad as it was previously. And I don't know if that's because of COVID or the room size, but they're about 95%. We just added 250 houses on the east side of this property. Mr. Wilson's property is the nicest property in this town. In my opinion, it's a beautiful piece of property. If we'll let his son do the same thing, he's going to also have a beautiful piece of property. But that's the business they're in. I'd ask you just to prove it. Under at least the amount of conditions is possible. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? All four, all four and three acres. And four, I have to guess Wilson with the horse. I can turn it up like I'm 17, 16, oak spring. I have some pretty good stuff. I have some bridge for back of the more Chris with that. There's a big red ball in his. Yeah, I mean. All right. And we had cows up there until about a year ago. I'm looking too old for that. And I have some of our help with moving out. And they throw in 150 houses across the red cross. I don't have a problem with cows. They wouldn't go over and mess with nobody. But you can't ever tell what people over there are gonna do that are not familiar with cows. Some all my own picture of her, no kid over there with cows, and mom cows, not all of you. So that's all we got out of that. We've been in it for years, we've had absolutely no problem with Wilson's. I've cut hay off of his land, he gives it to me, you keep playing that. You keep it all playing that big. Boats hugged back there all the time. And I don't want the biggest star with this. This is just a place to raise trees. You love to grow. You dig a mug, you go playing somewhere. Or somebody like us, have a half, and want some ways, but something, or I'm sure, or I'll have to. And I like doing it, of the service. And stuff that they've been working for, a lot of people that work, they're working. And there's a lot of people in this world who don't do that, well, not that it was just a stir of some all of that. Um, they're good people, they're willing to just throw a business there. And it's a good thing, it's stuff that the, all users. And I still sit problem with it. He said, me, Boris, we never had a problem with whatsoever. Thank you. Thanks, sir. Anybody else? All right, Dr. Luther, the public hearing. And then, uh, Council, anybody having questions or anything for that? Any questions? Any questions? Hi. by any question, grantee, or that thing. I'm just going to ask you. Did we have anything in a welcome step to the line of the Hobbit law? That's in the column. What do you want to do? What does the link that I'm going to talk about? Hobbit law. Hobbit law was just suggested as to give a original sense of a full, like a peat farmer, a full-won a peat farmer, you know, a full-blown farming operation that I'm opening next to Barion. I do have in here the IRS has a definition for our heavy farm. They have a bunch of things in a bunch of definitions of that. But we didn't have a specific definition on it or just giving a sense of limiting the intensity of the use. I guess this is some question for what they have, but you disrupt 50 trucks. day and on the map you should then kind of leave them on right out on the audio too. Access points to students' meal for this poverty currently. Yes, this is correct. So the trucks, and I don't know if you see the point where the trucks will come in here, come around, either drop or load and go up the shared driveway. So there is a driveway there now because I'm not seeing it on that guy out there. What's that? I'm sorry. Where do you shop when you're looking back? Do students know is there not a driveway? They are probably? Yes. Yes, it's a driveway here. students' mail is there in that in Broadway? They are currently? Yes. Yes, it's a dry way here. I'll drive out into here. And I guess this might be a question from our journey with regard to livestock. And the uses that you all showed me at the beginning, not the forecast six uses, the G-wurm suggests to be permitted here. You have a chart that hints this. Okay, accessory building units, agriculture, basic business facilities, what would that be exactly? Okay. Like storage, palm pals. Yeah, so you'll have the lean tubes, you'll have the palm houses. Anything that's going to support the agricultural based business. And we included in there the farm stand type access as well. This six came from the initial application, which had over 15. And that's what we paired it down to. We got rid of the inputting event. We got rid of the equestrian. We got rid of the baseball field. We got rid of whatever they want and we wish to do with their property. Beyond what we're saying here. Because we really wanted to make this agriculture, that's what it's going to be. So what's going to assist the agricultural aspect is going to be? You can use that one as a floor. Or the head to the bottom. This one? Yes. So here's a pump house that's for the pump to supply water. Here's a lean tube that's 40 by 80 by 14. Here's another lean tube. These are the types of the facilities. Now at some point in time we want to put a little farm stand out there We don't know exactly where that's the that's kind of the problem with the if I want straight-agric culture Then we know exactly what our uses are we know exactly what the uses are that you have to go to to Get a special use permit or something all of those lines. But going into this conditional, you're trying to guess the future of where you want to put it and put it on this map otherwise it changes indeed. You can't change it. So we're getting locked in at this point. Well, I understand about the rotation of the trees. I don't have any problem with keeping the angle to put trees at the back, at the front with them, for me to get it to, I guess. But the last song I have now is, maybe, with the livestock. Maybe cows are fine, but is there anything that will prevent them from, and then a pig farm here? I'm just going to, I it. I'm just going to simplify the only reason because of this whole thing the way he started. I just, when I heard the verbage, I'm kind of like, yo, I'm just going back and forth, back like we're getting it from here and then we'll get it from y'all, then we'll get it from here and we'll get it from y'all. So I was trying to figure it out too. All I want to build to do is if I want to build to have my own cows to build to eat my own cows, that's all. I'm not going to try and make money off of cows. I'm not getting enough. That kind of fun. I'm going to hoard a poultry. But if I want to have chickens to have my own eggs, like people in fair haven't sometimes even have little chickens andacters and stuff. I want to be able to do that and I want to be able to have a cow. A couple of them to be able to Billy that's. I understand that my mother and mother's. But it kind of got tied in the tree. But it kind of felt like the verbiage kind of got tied in with the trees and then it was like so now I'm not going to build a cell of trees Because I can only have two cows per acre because of the way the verbiage was that's why the question march came out from on our side So now I can send trees Yes Your intentions put in this approval. You're in tensions. Some future person or even you might change your mind. So I think we have to be careful about what's a mild so that it can change dramatically. And I guess the lost stock, there are lots of different kinds of loss stock. If you decide to have two picks per acre, that might be more, you get more reaction to that probably, like, two cows per acre. And even at the same point, I'm a business person. And I felt like from the beginning, I have lost all the way up to this point. I've given up as much as I can possibly give up. I have lost all the way up to this point. I've given up as much as I can possibly give up. And at some point I gotta draw wine to where I'm not gonna go. I can't go past this because it's like it's taking who I am away from me just because for whatever reason everybody wanted to move here. But I've been here my whole life and it's, and I understand you gotta learn how to code this. And I'm fine with it. You know what I said in my piece about the neighborhood? They really gotta build it, okay? I'm still gonna keep on going. They would, they want some mulch, I'll help them. We go over there, we ride the tractor around during Halloween, doesn't bother me. But at some point, it's got to be returned. You know, I said my bees, they got it, whatever. I guess I'm looking for that in return. I mean, because I felt like I have taken two steps forward and 15 steps back from the very beginning of this whole thing. And I know this linear, whatever happened, whatever. But it just kept, I just kept losing. I couldn't get it here. And I've already spent a lot of money just to get to this point. And I even started planting the buffer or anything. And that's why we're losing an American to begin with because of regulations versus other countries to begin with. This is on a small frame. And look at where our agriculture is now. Where it used to be 100 years ago. 50% of our produce is grown in South America. If people were getting rid of their gold to buy land is South America. The vegetables that we're eating now, they're picked green and they don't even have half South America. If you were getting under their gold to buy land is South America. The vegetables that were eaten now, they're picked green and they don't even have half of the vitamins but they look pretty, they look pretty in the grocery store. This is why I'm fighting as hard as I am for that piece of product. Alright, thank you. So for me, I mean, it was kind of like, I need to say, if a great spending feels like we've got three different groupings associated with this conditional snowman, it is, what was on screen just a moment ago? I mean, is that what the average is rate spent? Is that big conditions? I guess I'm trying to find out where we're at with the condition. Yeah, we'll do this. So these are what the apple and his requested. conditions. I guess I'm trying to find out where we're at with the condition. So these are what the applicant has requested. These are what the planning board has approved. What conditions are they recommended approval with these conditions. And then finally these are staff suggested conditions. Is that the answer to the question? I think so. I think so. So let's address slide on 14. And the six and one, two, methypically, get it over there. That out. That. All right. This thing wanted to get down there. Now, I have no problem with any of them except that we need more definition of life because if it's two pounds or two last hot for eight or seven acres of that you can finish that off and then that 14 count right there's that two ministers granted it's not right up against anything but so we need to make that said I had a problem with any of the health six there. I feel like I'm fine with that and I believe the the neighborhood backs up closest is this here so we could ask him if he was okay with with that section being livestock. Well, I'll be human. Yeah, we're all here. We're all here. Yeah, all these back here. I'm glad it's a bad state. What would you tell my people in the frame? No, he backs up to the back of the frame. Oh, yeah, he's about the property. And he's talking about the property. I have no problem. Okay. But I know that that end of the frame, that they don't have that. Like I said, he would be the closest. To just point a little bit more on this. We got about 20, 40 deer, an acre now by the way. Yeah, I was just like, I hope you like a deer population. I already got your eyes. That's fine. You can send a code bottle later out there. It's a really small container. Alright. Just don't look please. We're sorry. Don't look please. We're sorry. Just explain this back a little bit. It's a little bit hard to see, but there's people who squiggles on the back here. This little in part does extend a little bit further. So it's been slightly truncated just get it on the sheet so just to keep that scale in mind for you. Okay so I have found the blood stock. I know that maybe where I'm going in an order here but I don't see the name from the top part. The type D buffer. When it would be buffering there. Okay. The synthesis will work. Okay. So Brad, have you known the role in the last time? No, in fact, I'm in favor of livestock. I would just, I'm not saying problem here unless it's a, if he's got 30 70 nm side I don't hear anybody suggesting more than a couple cows or any livestock I think we're well within even though it's a limitation it feels like it's very reasonable given the urban nature of our town and what's around it and what the intended use to those are yeah a long way to say okay, I'm sorry. Sorry. So, I'm just eating the hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot If you can't walk right, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, away from the resident and up against the family home. That, to me, was driving a lot of this conversation. I think the buffer isn't added thing. I think it's good and necessary. I don't really care a whole lot about single family spine. I think this was a good thing for the community, right? It's providing a service assistance earlier. So the only thing I'm concerned about is the buffer being there and being a good neighbor and it seems like he is and we don't prohibit or allow something that will hurt us in a transfer of ownership down the road. That's pretty good about what I'm hearing. All right, so we've approved the knowledge. So we're going to move on to, like Stephen said, is the second part. And the second part is the stack. Let's go to the slide number 20, which is the buffers. I think this one has to go up. Probably does, and it's it. Which is the buffers I think this one has got probably does That's As you said you don't see any points. In the internal bucket, as I would say. Correct. Because it's just there on property. Okay. Okay. One on the same leaf of type D bucket. Do you? Right. Yeah. I mean, and again, all folks here are backed up to where the type D bucket would even be in play. No center, final, etc. to where the type B buffer would even be in playing as standard finance. All right, so we've got the type B buffer taken care of. Mayor, can I ask a question for clarification, please. Gentlemen, is that an ordinance or a requirement? That's correct. So I just thank you. I just wanted to clarify when you say you're waiting the requirement of the tight D buffer Because that is an ordinance or apartment To be waiting that on it's a part of the Right in the order of the counter Thank you Alright so one I think everybody's going to go to I think you're about to go in Three of the buffer drives sightlines in and there Last came the buffer Yeah that's the buffer of the lines in and there, last came the buffer, that big buffer would prove that, and so the aggregate function. So to prove the far use, cannot be allowed to do it up the operator. All right, so we need to take that. That's exactly that. No, six, no strike number six. That'd be a name. Well, the ordinance states, well, if we didn't have any of that in the next, I mean, did he have, and we changed it to A, he could have the lab stock in drops. Right. So the town ordinance requirement is you have to have two acres to have any kind of a livestock, but there's no upper limit on that allow. So as long as you have two acres, you can have as much as you can fit on the line. So I agree with Stephen Strick and Six, wouldn't make sense now, that I've heard from the council on other than livestock shared with fence and for exclusive use of livestock and be limited more than that. You know, I think when he peed dead in there, because I need to make sure they're fenced. Council. Thanks. Yes. I'm sorry. So, striking number six is what you're discussing. Well, now just striking the, the farm needs to be limited. It cannot be to the beef of a lot of the hood of Alproyd. I would strike that and keep the elbow in, where it says, a lot of stock shall be f for it. I would strike that and keep the elbow in where it says, livestock shall be fenced for the scrucies of use of livestock, the minimum is not one, two hits and livestock perkins their taker. Keep that out of it. Okay. From where I go then, keep in the same boat. And now I'm okay with seven and eight. Oh, eight. Eight is the one we said. Eight, 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the one we see. 8 is the planning board recommended. Staff has recommended just that this type B third book offer would be extended down to this point. to the other side of the city, it would bring that. Well, I don't want to put words in the mouth of the garden. Agreed to it. That's like something that I didn't bring that map back up. That's a little scary, so. Well, somebody said the OK was moving in front of me. Well, I just wanted to, you see right here, how they built the neighborhood, even in this 100-year floodplain, how it comes into their neighborhood. So all of that that low line land that was there now all that water got pushed right there. So from right here all the way down to there is a swamp. There's nothing going to grow there. So that's why we talk about it being what number was that 398 but I'll be honest with you there's already trees two I forget the gyms are already there there's already trees all the two is out there and there's and it's probably it's not to be funny but it's got a 40 foot mulch bed and it's got big oak trees on it and I showed the pictures to the planet board the trees are you know 30 feet tall. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So that's all the way down there but all of this is just standing water even right now. So mean, it's a very narrow spot. Even where the bottom would be is standing in water. Can you bring the map back up? Can you bring the map back up? Can you bring the paper here? The conditions? Yeah. Yeah, the one we conditions on. What's the thing? Yeah, the way we exclude pigs from the law definition of law stock, or it doesn't have to just be any law stock that can happen to them. Yes, it's a condition. So you could say livestock, but no pigs. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I like to. I They're just the desire to have a mirror of taking over the other cows. And right now, I'm talking about the高-downs, the four-horse cows. I was initially thinking, I'm really, you know, these are livestock there. But I mean, there are farms close by that have livestock and it has not been a problem. So now I'm in a change of mind, position on that. The pigs are getting on story. Right, let's get Russia down to the people's. I don't know nothing about pigs to be honest with. I know the reputation they have. But I don't and it's like two peaks per acre. If it was 200, I'd understand this medal, but if I wanted to have two peaks in a rotation that have malt and baking, I don't think they're gonna smell two peaks. That's just my opinion. I think that's better. Yeah, probably, I mean, some direction. I like baking hands in there. Yeah, that's my life. I'm very happy. I like them for the meat. I think that's pretty generous. We're kind of having a discussion up here. Yeah, sir. Okay. If we have a portion of the last, so if I could just give you shout out, guys are starting. Yeah, sir. And I just gotta be honest, have my family or big farmers, so kind of probably have a lot of things to do. It's just so. Yeah. in their paper farmers, so kind of probably have a... You see Rick Hughes himself? You live in Fairhaven? I don't know. I'm fine. I know I don't back up to them, but... It's probably fine. I don't get any good consensus on that. So, all right, we'll do this. Well, I think we're going to replace bullet number five with the appropriate bullet number one or two. I can't tell them apart, but one. Yes, sir. Okay. So, we're going to strike out the bullet with the parromb used and then we can allow it to operate and number eight. They're, they make a suggestion. Let's pull it up on a work document and make sure we've got a list in that way the council can see what's, what's making a group to an applicant can agree as well. So we can make sure we have that agreement. Well, I'll come on up and take it? Well, you can just do it on PowerPoint. I'm just going to leave. OK. If you want to do that now, I just don't want to check 30 minutes. Check it out. I'll get a little help. So this is my final answer. I'll go and just paint. I'll go and paint. Really, really. I'll go and paint the following age will be for lots and for what people eat. No. But keep the life stuff right. Yes. And then did you decide on the type you'duffer extension or you just want to keep up the planning board suggestion of starting to use plan boards to do that? You know, I think we need to specifically as a condition, know that the board is waiting the one that's requirement. I can't recall what it was specifically because it was condition 8 that approved this. That's it. I have to put it. So it's the time to cover. I'll put it on the board. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the next slide. I'm going to go back to the rest. Now let the one bridge. So we're keeping the compost in, all right, councilman. We have one through four, same length. And in my, I'm not missing it. I mean, they're pretty much just standard requirements, right? Yeah. So. All right. Mr. Wilson, you agree with me? I'm not as fast as a reader at your home. And then it looks like he took everybody off. for council the other part of this application is that cycling for some time I was just going to say the other part of this application is that cyclist that they're living to just to remind you currently we have that one year identified as the looing only but then any other uses would be allowed anywhere that's not restricted by flood floodplains and anything like that. I just have a question. I understand, but I don't know if there's a way to do a minute, because it takes more chickens in a square footage, I guess, as the way I would go about it versus a cow. I'm not going to have 200 head of cow, but I might have 20 chickens to be able to provide the eggs for me and my family and my dad or something like that. And I didn't know somebody would be out there, like with a clicker or a click in them, because I got them in the chicken coop. You know what I mean? That's going with it. I just, I don't know. I said just a suggestion. That's the only question I have. I mean, a chicken coop sometimes I have 20 chickens and just so that you can get the amount of eggs that you need. That's all. But the cows and all the pe... I totally understand that. But we're just talking about something smaller. That's all these... I don't know if they're to be in a mid-menor. I'm just asking. Yeah, I'm a farm reader. I'm going to have to have a little shake. Do I have to separate them? This is a rocket science. I mean, you can just send chickens or exempt from the limitations. Very natural. I'll try to do that. You don't put that in there? Is that what you're going to write? Well, I'll put it in there. I'll put it in there. Yeah, let's see. Yeah. I'm OK. My granulums. 10. I'm going to put it in there. I'm going to put it I have a number of minutes. What kind of a check-in password? Well, I think we just talked about, there probably would be an upper limit. I've just heard of the conversation. So, I don't know what that would be, but give us a number. I guess mayor, how's the rest of the uses? I don't know, I suppose the other one could just way to do it. What a chicken operation family farm might look like. 20. You said 20. I feel like I'm gonna get a whole chicken. Like an old chicken. I'm gonna get chicken. I'm gonna get a whole chicken. I'm gonna get a chicken breaker. I'm gonna get chicken. No, I'm gonna get chicken. I'm gonna get and I'm a total chicken. I wouldn't really have. Like what? Because of how I like order and stuff. Okay. That's a 30 chickens. 30 chickens. Yeah, I could say. Alright, let's move on. Edda. The kitchen. I think she would have there. Just for clarification. So the way this reads is that the chickens would still be limited to two in anchor. So I add something like 30% for the entire property. Right, exemplar of that. Yeah. No roosters? Yeah, maybe no roosters for a challenge. What's the, what is, just for background, we're considering an ordinance townwide about domestic homes, neighborhoods, chickens, and every town around us prohibits roosters. I assume because of noise, but I don't know how you think of an apology. But do you need a rooster to have a chicken operation with eggs? No, right? So consistent with our town ordinance that would be considering, I guess the question would be, roosters are they permitted on the property or not? And if they are, there ought to be probably some sense of where on the lot the acreage you should put chickens and roosters, so like I'm parsing the tares here. Yeah, I can speak to that. I think the discussion is a good one. The reason I say that is anticipating the board to ask staff to research chickens, done that a little bit already. And one of the things we found is that from other local governments is that in the hand issues, in the hand complaints, the source of the largest number of those complaints tends to be roosters. Got heads. Right now, we don't have a restriction on roosters and unaware of. I believe it's just chickens generally, male or female. So if there is a desire to counterstrict roosters, then we need to kind of bake in that to the conditions and any rules that come along with that. Some of the things that some places have done and have eliminated roosters, say chickens have to be a certain amount of feet from the property lawn. There's kind of things. So I would just like to frame the amendment of this that 30 chickens and roosters must be limited to 100 feet from the nearest residential I'm talking residential property line. That's reasonable. I make that up. I don't know. People from the urban community have some automation. We're not in farming community. This doesn't come off right. 100. 100 or 150? We're not in foreign community. Let's go this way. Right. Yeah. 100? 100 or 150? I said 100. Yeah. But that's approximately what we're going to do. We have to get a quarter of it. We're going to hold a two-button. We're going to have to put an E.C. over here. Oh, sure. There. All right. All right. Please do with that. And I can move. I'll move approval of CZ21.0.421 fromfamily one, the ad district with the staff's suggestions, which is not in the area. Is that okay? Yeah, sure. Are you off of the staff and the board? Well, staff and planning board recommendations as discussed. And November 22nd, we have to make a move. I'll send it. I have a motion and Mr.1 on the booth. All right. All right. Mr. O'Reilly, you've heard of those conditions. All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. We have to do this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 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I The National College of National Council, here at the referred to the time of States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United States, the United Therefore, the county council of Uricon goes to the proposed zoning and the existing system, the reason for what the county council is behind is by a duck on the road 27, the 2007, based on the goals of the rejected set forth in the document of the running quality development and consistency with all state mandate and land interregulations established in North Carolina, Jail statute, one they can get you. The town council approved the proposed amendment. The amendment stated that the town council found the terms of the telling and their insistence and their reasonable with the key kind of threshold for those who injected the coverage of land to land for the following meetings. The agriculture use is less than 10% and the next use that could be allowed in the property. Natural to park free at the site, and they can go in the property according to the compliments of the land use plan. And usually three market forces are not indicated at the site because they are forced to go in the family name. All right, can I get a motion? Could I get a motion? Oh, you're looking. Yeah. So, first, uh, I'm going to read it. Yeah. Um, so, first of all, I don't think it's missing hearing the entire day. Just this last paragraph. Oh, yeah, I mean, what does it look like? Um, and then the second thing is that these three reasons of our staff suggested reasons that you may have found you don't have to approve these reasons. You can add to them and remove them. Again, these are just to give you a style of point. All right. All right, can I get a motion on this statement? Come back on that sheet. I'm currently statement of please, and we'll put some consistent. See for CZ21.4.01. Second. Your own version of inspection. Second, I'm going to use the Richardson, not the bigger. All through. Thank you. All I'm going to go back in. You know, I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a second. I'm going to go back in a. Until I'm happy, you're still on board. Should I comment about it? I'm trying to go through these fairly good, but they're all fairly minor text amendments. So this first one is probably the most minor. This text amendment is merely adding building heights limits in the text of the ordinance. Pergie staff identified there a few sections, detached single family, shopfront commercial or in workplace, where the building heights were shown on images in the ordinance, but we're not actually written out in text form. So this text isn't simply adding those. The play were recommended approval. They didn't include one change from staff's original condition or original text amendment, and that was to have access to building heights was there height because those access to buildings were also the 25 foot max was also when we showed them the image. All right, any questions from Matthew? Paulish. And where's the accessory bill? It's worth it, I mean. That is in 9.2-31. Or one big area, there's nothing. There's a few questions. All right, any questions or anything? What's that? The omelette, the one at town. What at town? So you might want to discuss it. All right, thank you. I'm going to make a message to Texan in the 21.10.02 building heights. All right, it's like a motion by Mr. Richardson, second by Mr. Perry, all favorite. All opposed. Thank you. You're staying in the state of the consistent, the reason is, so the question of the head, Bill Nixie, Tex, Harville Nine, I'll tell you how I'm stopping here if I have no more coordinates. And the city here. I don't think we need to read this one. I'll leave it in there. The president immediately gets an I don't think we need to read this one. Other than that, the President and the Liberation and the Confucian on the images provided in the Stalinist development on his or her examples for our binding. I'm not sure if we're reading it. The President, the Liberation and the Confucian on the images provided installing the building order are that more of our planning? That was probably just poorly coordinated on my part. Oh, it was pretty. Sure, so it was just a little confusing on if the images were the binding heights or were they just gested heights, so this this just providing even text clarified. Oh, the wind rings aren't that perfect. All right, can I get the motion on this statement? To the link. All right, motion on Mr. Ritz, it's going to take a bottom impact. All right, all right. All right, all right. All right, all right. All right, all the food? All right, all right, all right, all right. Did you mind going? Did you mind going? So I can just give you a few, I don't know, any of details on the big, huh? Take, take some chains. Big news, right? I didn't know that it was a show, and he doesn't know that actually. There used to be this great restaurant, up from the house, all of those chains. It was great. Great. So this is Texman and T's 21.10.04. These are all Texman and purpose by staff. This is a very minor amendment. It's just to clarify the intent of the conditional zoning process which we just went through. The current wording must be more restrictive. This is just to allow the modification. So Council has a little bit more flexibility in the premium condition of this. I'm going to put in minute, 2.1.1.0.04. Quite a fine condition as I need to. Motion, motion, motion. Mr. Ritz, you know, second 100, 3 years. All of them. Aye. And statement of, assistant, your main board is, where I said it's a clarified statement. I'll just go read your joining process and the only, the process manager is more flexibility than the talent cast of the crew products that were approved, yeah. Okay, the money. So, I'll second. And check that out. Now, Mr. Ager, Mr. Mimley's room is all there. All right, next. 21, and then another one. 21, let another one. So this, the tectonement is to add retainable standards to the talent. This, again, is a staff suggested tectonement, but it was raised because we had a developer put in, I believe it was the courtyard on the lawyers' room. They built two really big 9 or 10-bit car retainables. They're in big model and they think things. But out of the current standards, we really don't have anything speaking to our retainables. So we had no mechanisms to have these say on that. So I guess to start with these retain wall standards are taken as a template from Boone. That was that suggestion of Bill Bailey or our interim planter. They've been kind of adapted to address some of the the planning board's concerns and to be more silent specific. The big key points are that retaining walls can't be taller than eight feet tall ever. If they're taller than a few, if they need a retaining wall taller than a few, there has to be a four foot separation between those walls. And within those four foot separation, they have to provide landscaping in some stormwater conveyance between those. What down do you bring? This is from Boone for us. They're very hill and they have very robust retaining wall standards. These are probably more than the town needs, but we figured more is better than walls. I wanted to call them in Boone. They are restricted. I'm a commissioner. I'm a commissioner. 21.5.0.1 to set standards for retirement laws. I'm going to push my men's tax team and say, I'm going to say, air is all a big one. I don't think this is a good condition here. All right, and statement of the regional system, regional and state government request with the aditainable standards to our two starollings town, Stollings town, Unified Building, Warden, and the Provost's Medical for Broad Standards, Colonel Lighting from the UDO, and the Provost's Medical Protect, my Jason Landlevers from Monolithic Retain Walls. All right, can I have your motion? So moved. Motion by Ms. Risen. Second. Second. Okay, motion. So moved. Motion by Mr. Risen. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second. All right. And in the last of the slides, yes. All right. Next one. Don't let them know. So this is a text amendment for the multifamily resident of buildings specifically. This did come up because we had, which was the area at Idle Wilde, led here at Identify that they didn't have this two-foot elevation difference between the first four elevation, so that's the finished floor of the building and the adjacent sidewalk. The way that the ordinance was written was just adjacent sidewalk and on these buildings they had sidewalks on all sides. The frontage was on the public right of way, the back was just a parking lot, the right side was like an access and left side was open space but they have walkways all around the building to access the building. And so, Ms. Heritold, the meaning of this two foot elevation difference on all sides of the building, they were not happy with that mostly because of ADA compliance. They wanted to build it at grade so they didn't have to put in an expensive and space, a table of space to fit in rams and things like that. So they provided us an argument that the ordinance only applies to the sidewalk on the public frontage because the intent of this two foot elevation difference was to provide a visual separation between the road and the building, give it kind of a brownstone and you were kind of look. They provide us with that argument. I reviewed it, Melanie, our attorney reviewed it, and we agreed with their interpretation. So this text of eminence is to clarify that. Now one thing I want to go over with you really quickly, this is the memo that was presented to the planning board that the planning board recommended for approval. Staff has made a change since their approval. Originally it read that it is to be the two foot elevation difference above the sidewalk adjacent to the public street frontage. Staff has expanded that a little bit to read adjacent to the public, but we need more privately maintained street right away. So this would allow parking lots or open space to still be built at grade, but any alleyways or any private streets or any public streets, anyway that the public would be reasonable driving would have to have that two foot elevation difference. All right, any questions for me? Next, next to you, is that plan? Yes. Yeah. If you think to me, is it visual separation? Yes. Is it visual separation? Yes, that's a lot. If I can add to just any sort of here, but they also argue that the two-foot elevation difference should be measured as the average of the sidewalk elevation, meaning if you had a building, obviously the building is going to be one elevation, but if the sidewalk in front of it was very steep on one side, you might not have that elevation difference on the other side of my view very tall. So we've also added just that this height difference should be measured from each entrance Just to ensure that we get that look of the visual separation where we want to stoop in front of each entrance All right I make a motion to approve the text number 21.11.02, declared by multi-family residents and sidewalk hard differences. I'm Bruce Brown, I'm an action director. I was like a second time, I was here all day. I'm at the rest of the men's, thank you. Instead of those three, in the regional office, it's a risk of clear,, the regional message is addressed to the clerk by a long-term residential dealing sidewalk relation differences in Arcoma and the town stallion in the foot of the government order. And kind of the other issue there is between the sidewalk and the finished four-up elevation was to drive these or separation between the private ground and the building and the public ground on the street further than the clerk has to sit in. Any motion on the floor? So the motion on this case, to approve the statement, and talk about street and traffic. I can move it wrong. So, the road should run in the stairs to a room. Just to see the room. It's like running a room. All right. All right. That's it. Now, with this apply, when future developments. Correct. It applied for a pass. So any future multi-family building development that's approved and talks to us for review, we'll check for that two foot on the street frontages. But we'll allow that on the parking lots. They could be closer to the grade. A lot of you specifically have those stints and plums. We're a platter there, a plumber building. They would have permit choice. So they could have what? Permit choice. Meaning they applied before this went into a back so they can choose which one I want to go with. Thank you. Oh, my comment. Here's my comment. I'm really pleased to see that you all are reviewing the ordinances and making changes where they're needed. But I think there are a lot of other changes that need to be addressed. And I'm glad that you're here other changes that need to be addressed. And I'm glad that's the truth here because I want you to hear this. One thing, the length of non-convictive uses is just ridiculous in our opponents. We allow up to three that because there have been things that were missed with that. The ugly truck repair business right there, and what we had hoped to be out there, and got through because of what we called as a sunlight lease. So they were able to do that even though nobody wanted that to happen. And we made the changes to the ordinance to reduce the density. For all those different categories, it was intended to be a stop gap measure. I'm wanting to have the ordinance repealed, but we can't push back on that. So we made changes that had the effect of limiting the applications beyond that. But I think that all probably needs to be revised and as well. And since I'm going out of council, I want to put this up before I leave because there is some continued work. And I think we just kind of forgot about that. We made those changes. You know, we have concentrated effort to make changes to go on and say that it was adopted. But we're not doing yet. There's still a lot that needs to be, we need to change there. So that's my speech. I agree with you, Dr. Naminate. You for a special committee on the building. I'm done. and nominate you for a special committee on the only committee. I want to have done clear vacation purposes. I just want to make sure that the consensus is going to change because that was listed. I kind of get the sense there was. So let's repeat that. Make sure we're all on the same page here. So change number one was the length of grain-spotter uses. The just review of the grandfather uses, the just for you in the table of uses to make sure that in the different areas of the town, the uses that are allowed are appropriate. And I mentioned the truck prepared places, something that was not appropriate, that was allowed. or agree with that, but was a lie. And then to review the whole development piece with densities and such, and make sure that that is all that needs to be changed there, or if there are some other changes that might be needed to the SDA. Okay, yeah, that's absolutely. Thank you, ma'am. Consensus? You're welcome. Yeah, thank you that's absolutely. Thank you, ma'am. Consensus? Yeah. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Ellen. All right, Marcia, you're up. I think I would never want to. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm going to put it on the audit, she's here to report to Council. Hello everyone. Yeah. Again, Emily Nilsen, the Cudderham happening. And we can really do the audit this year. I just want to thank the staff, especially Marsha, for everything she's done to make it. The relevant to really say, so I appreciate all that. So we've got just some forms here. The process has changed a little bit as far as what the state requires. And they require, we always use to come into a presentation. Now that is required, that's part of the contract. And then we also have always been doing this kind of data input worksheet. And then that spits off some performance indicators. So we're required to go over those with you as well. So we're a little bit longer than normal in my apologies. First up, and most importantly, we issued an unmodified audit report, so that means we did not have any qualifications, any reasons to follow up on the report. We didn't have any instances of material and statements that were noted, so that's kind of also known as a clean nodded pain. We zoom that up a little bit just a little bit. So help. Yeah. Second. So we've pulled out just some, just to highlight your cash balances and then new fund balances. So there's a comparison here between 2021 and 2020 overall cash is up. And then we've also got a list here of where that cash is, whether it's in the bank or in the capital management trust. And so the majority of it is in the capital management trust. And that was just for interest rates. But those have significantly fallen from what was being paid. And then here's a breakdown of the fund balance. And then here's a breakdown of the fund balance. And this is general fund and your capital projects. So this is your governmental activities. The stabilization must take statute that is just required by the state. And then streets of power bill, that's what you've received in power bill money, but you have not yet skipped for power bill money. So what you've received in power bill money, but you have not yet For power bill money so that is required to be restricted and then drug forfeiture Fund balances that are committed parks and recreation. That's your fees and lieu of parkland But you impose on new developments that don't have enough green space the capital projects fund that is the P3 Project. That's the fund of balance that's in that. Substancement here is expenditures. That is what you have budgeted for the next year, the year that we're currently in now, as a fund balance appropriation. So that's required to be restricted. And then something new, and this is just something that accounts for specific, you have a policy about 20% of budget expenditures that was changed this past year, from 30% down to 20%% and so that's just to assign that fund balance and then finally we have an assigned fund balance of 6.4 million. You can't run a vehicle, you can't run a red mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, you can't run a mesh, flows, minus your liabilities and your deferred outflows. And then that's where your fund balance table comes from. Yep. The next portion here is this is straight from your financial statements. And it just gives you a little bit of background on those buckets of fund balance that we're on that previous page. I make this speech every year when I found it from that end, we just bought it and we just sent some money. We're already worried about cash. You know, there are different budgets, but we still have a total of $12 million. We're going to hand off. We're making a draw. We're going to do a good financial position for our cash. That's not a good amount of money. Yes, the town is very healthy. Yes. And there's a little measure on the performance indicators that will go out of our, that will state that as well. Yes. So here is the budget performance. And this is just showing for what you budgeted, for revenues, and for expenditures, and how that actually turned out. We had no over budget items. So everything, all the expenditures were within budget. You budgeted a total of 8.5 and revenue, and actually received 9.2. And those expenditures were budgeted for 9.7, and actual expenditures were 8.3. So the difference in those numbers is there were some transfers and a pretty creation of fund balance. So overall you added to fund balance for this past year for about $920,000. Yeah, like Alex, you got Aaron, you got him on G. So it was good physical management. like a big Alex here. And I'm looking at him on G. Thank you. So it was good fiscal management. I think also the budget was probably conservative based on COVID. Not sure what was going to happen with the year and everything. So it turned out to be a better year. better year. So next up is these financial performance indicators. And as I mentioned earlier, this spreadsheet is created by the LGC. So it is something that we enter the actual numbers off of your audit report on the data input and then it just pops in every year. So this is not anything that I have control over. I think some of it as we get down to it can be kind of misleading and we'll just kind of go over that. But Mary, as you were mentioning mentioning the town is very healthy. So right here if you look the town falls in this line right here, this third line front of the top. So your minimum fun balance to explain. Available is averaging about 34%. And your results are 113%, which is down here. So the town is very healthy. There's not any issues there. So what was the 34%? That's the average of town's size. Oh, OK. The next page. The next page. And what the LGC, how they have built this spreadsheet is this column right here, the third kind of lighter column, when there's an issue, it's going to pop up red. And when that sale gets shaded as red, counsel is required to respond to the LGC within 60 days from the date of this presentation. And the LGC is calling that a response to the auditor's findings, recommendations, and fiscal matters. And it has to be signed by the majority of the board. So we don't have any of those issues on this page. There's no red cells here. We're on time with the audit report. The budgeted levy, they have here less than 3% it came in at 4% for your uncollected I don't think that's a big deal you're not expecting the decrease in your property reevaluation there's no issues with the preauded process we had noenditures from budget to actual. You don't have a mandate with the DEQ and you're not on the UNIT Assistant list with the LGC. And there's no other statutory violations that were noted as part of the audit. What is the LGC? The local government commission. Oh, well. Yeah. There were no debt problems with light payments. You don't have a landfill. So here is the one item that was going to require your response to the LGC to the state. And we had a couple of auto findings during our internal control testing. And we'll go over those with those. There's a letter back here. You don't have electric funds. You didn't have transfires, and no other material funds. So those are the proposed indicators. I'll also include it just for consistency purposes. These are the graphs that we typically go over in the presentation. And just a note here, you know, your tax base went up and I think that's just due to growth. Your state restricted, that is up, that's the care's money for the COVID money that was received, because that's kind of a restricted grant. Your PAD will allocation is also in there. Then best of our ins are down. Of course everywhere it is. This miscellaneous, that's up in 2020 and also in 2021. And that is due to the the turbo-lager PAPUS in CID DOT, the reimbursement and all that because in governmental accounting you are not allowed to net that you have to show that money that came in and then you just showed the money that went out. So it kind of sucks a little bit. And here's the expenditure side. Overall everything was pretty consistent. Again, there's the other side for the transportation, for that same terminal with your pack of steel. That's the expenditure side of it. These investment earnings that you showed on the previous chart, from 120,000 last year to 2000 this year. But the investment earnings? So the investments? Yes. Is that something we should be looking at where we're investing because that's beneficial to get on the floor? You're limited with being a government entity where you can invest. And there was no change because the investment, those earnings were basically from the North Carolina Capital Management Trust and it just, the rates are down. So that's not something we have any control over. I mean, you can look for other options, but your hands are kind of tied. Because you can't go to the best in Walmart with public funds. That's fine. Yeah, right. All right, but we can't buy land. Mission at the care of money. Wait. I think you got that. This coming out. That's it. Yeah. Two point six million of the care's money. Is it in the revenue? I think you got that. This coming out. No. It's in this year. It's in this year. So 2.2 casual and is not included in none of us. The care's one. But coming into law. So 3.2 casual hand is not included in none of those precarious ones. But I'm in a July. No, it can't. It's in July. It was 2.9571 and it actually, it's sitting, it did increase our fund balance even further out, but it's restricted. So. or out, but it's restricted. Right. What I'm saying from now is that 10.4. Correct. So take out 2.1. I love it. I think. So 1.84. I think. And then the, yeah. But take out the 2.5. No. You would add it to it. You would add it. Because this is as in 2.30. And even on the boards. No, you would add it to it. You would add it. Because this is as in 230. And even on the cohorts. Oh, I'm sorry. The cash balance is that you had, I believe there were the 12 million. Right? We have four, I mean the reports have been sending out the council. We have an excess of 14 million in the bank. That's okay. So we have, that's an excess of And that actually moved that number out. Before I forget to ask you. The dean of San Yellow, the list of the people who got money in the milk and on the budget, he had to go back $10 million for road safety improvements. And so I asked me, the same district in the plot that then, the plot us for spending them out, different 1.6 mean. And he said yes. So, we need to, as you know, have they spend their 10 million road safety improvements, maybe 3p is a road safety project. I don't know. Yeah. When I saw that email and the same question, Because the project that big, in our neck of the woods, stuff we can have to go to in a state-related relationship talking about some pretty high-intense, street infrastructure that were actually to sit on in their tin me. And when I called over the new trail, it didn't seem to be aware of the project it was going to, but they committed to getting back to me. So I want to hear something from them. I'll have a word on it. All right, thank you. Sorry, I'm trying to talk. Don't know where it's going. Must be nice. What's the nice one? What is the appropriate one? Did I just look at the red? How do you think you want to talk about it? We're on the red. We found the interoncent role testing. So I'll go into more detail about that. This spot here, it just kind of shows how Let me tell you about that. This spot here, it just kind of shows how your relatives versus expenditures have been trending. And it's been positive for the past three years. And you've actually gone from 600,000 to almost 300,000 out. This my history saying here was not 100. And here is the fun balance information just in a graphical form. You can see over the years the other side portion has blown up. This is it again. Here's a comparison of your assessed levy, which has also increased over the past three years. And there's not many issues with collection percentages because you're running 99% there. Okay, so here comes the red box information. We are required by auditing standards to issue these letters here. by auditing standards to issue these letters here. And we had three findings. We kind of rent those findings. It's just recommendations that we give the board or something that we consider to be a significant efficiency, which is something that's a little bit more of an issue. Or there's material weakness, which is significant deficiency that is more material to the financial statements. So we have three that have been ranked as significant deficiencies. And I'll just explain some of those. This first item here, we tested a sample of cash disbursements and the town's policy is that those checks require dual signatures Excuse me We found two checks that were mailed and they cleared the bank that only had one signature So they did not have that extra dual signature. So they missed the town's policy I think that there's a change in the dance policy. I think that there's a change in, there's gonna be some changes and have things aroured in the X-DRAV to make sure that the checks have two signatures before they go out the door. And I was COVID, you know, I'd get why that popped up, you know, people weren't always in the office and available. I get it. So that was that issue. The second one is we also pull a sample of payroll checks to test employee compensation. And two of those payroll checks, when we were going through the personnel files to match up to make sure that, you know, what the employees signed up to be withheld for their 401K, was the amount that being withheld. We have two instances where that was different than what was in there, personnel files. And so staff immediately contacted those employees and they got documentation from the employees, notified me, I didn't fit that. And I think there's going to be some procedural changes there, the payroll overall. So, hopefully those issues will not be apparent either. This third one is, we always look at your palibill reports to see if you added any new streets under the town's maintenance system, if you took any streets away, because when you add new streets, that kind of affects your fix-ass at the St. Petersburg infrastructure. So in reviewing that, we noticed that there were lots of increases and decreases on the pound bill report and I think it was there was new eyes looking at it and so they did more verification than the prior version that was no longer with the town that did the pound bill report and so upon that investigation they found some corrections and they should have been done several years ago. So we, as a result of that, had a prior period of investment to the financial statements, because of those words. So did that reduce the amount of the amount we received? Because those were not added to the statement. It does not affect your development as far as I have. That calculation is something something the state does. And I think that I think they take into your calculation and they also take into how much money you are using. So the towns that receive these powder funds and they just kind of board them and stack them up, they don't tend to give them as much. So I don't think that would affect her a lot, but I don't know that for sure. I don't think that's the exact correct that Alex do you know about that? Did that affect her? Ms. Mills might have better than I do. My understanding is there's several things that that factor into it. She's correct that especially recently, they want to make sure you're not building up reserves, they're actually doing it in reserve state. I believe population goes into it, I believe, a road of bond which goes into it as well. So this could potentially affect our reimbursement. I don't think it would have been especially large for more likely, you know, $200, things like that. So that's my understanding of just kind of speed and wealth. I think the action knowledge that was added was less than half of a mile. So I know that the total value of the road system was only $150,000. And that's what affected the prior period. We added that $150,000 worth of road and we took off three years of depreciation. And then we thought adjustment ended up netting and into this financials. If I may, I just just to expound on that. It was just a matter of the current staff person cleaning up some roads and some actual mileage of those roads, which resulted in very minute-school amounts, but it still is different than the amount from the previous year. So it was cleaning up the actual mileage of some segments of roads. of some segments of bread. And the last one that we would require to issue just kind of goes over if we had any issues with staff or management during the process of the audit, which we did not have any issues. during the process of the audit, which we did not have any issues. Any disagreements? We didn't have any disagreements. It kind of hits on our major adjustments, which we didn't really have any major adjustments to the books. We kind of helped do the Gasey conversion, which is the full approval set of segments, that's the first exhibits in your full set of segments, which marshes reviews in detail. So that was pretty much it. Any other questions on the answer? Sort of later, marshes, how much are you going to grant it? I haven't dropped it yet. Well, I'll regret it. I haven't dropped it yet. Will. Yes. We'll get out of it. And we have 60 days from today, so we'll probably burn it to council. I think so. We could try to do the first meeting. We're up. Are we having two meetings in December? One. One. And there's one in that first meeting in January. It would have to be in the first meeting in January. If you don't do it then. OK, we're all set. OK. All right. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, the six months I think you should. Yeah. OK. Thank you. Yeah, it's good. I think she was referring to her I believe the ones are reports next. This man. I will try and go to the literature and I'll see if everyone's problem tires. We'll mark them. Yes, that is the budget amendment. Of course, the budget amendment. And the budget item? Okay. And while she's pulling it up on the lead of this one, there are lots of context and marijuana and buy you the ads on as well. So the reason behind this budget is resulting from one of the town's top priorities, which is track created in town. And we currently got a property under contract, which is a 4.14 acres approximately. Because I have a side, the down wall, that's the old track dealership property. We're going through the due diligence process. And this is the line with our data talent action plan, which is one of the things part of that is getting site control. Because getting site control is probably these allows the talent company for sure that the downtown Bell control because getting psychotrol these properties allows the town to come before and be sure to be downtown about it on that property, something that aligns with the town's food. So, that would be insane. You know, Alex, you're exactly right. Linda and I have been on the council since she's out in the fire. I mean, this topic has come up in many times, land banking down down, developed out of town, Beijing. So without some more grads expertise on board, and we'll get closer and closer to that, the part of this, the University of Land Banking and the developing and that site control has been mentioned about the truck repair place down on that cross from various plastics. I'm very excited about what we'll see. Why didn't happen since 2005, wouldn't it be because of the London effort she's a strong opponent of this, but Oakland Railway, I think, was supposed to happen in 2017 17 developers. They're not going to come up with the idea of the background of the super stream, so we really don't know what's out there. So this is the first step. Brad and Linda, how much are the plans for the downtown building? I'm just glad we had the opportunity to acquire this property and take it to someone that could easily just like we get the opportunity to acquire this property. And it is something that could easily save the way for us. And fortunately, we, more than ever, in time, have the right work to make them accept the law of Manhattan. Make an offer of Manhattan accepted. So, I'm pleased that we will say some really positive teacher development there that we've waiting for for along time and so. Well, I'll just add maybe one part is the goal that they can have in the United States is not a moment very long. The right to go is within a year or two to have it sold and perhaps this is how it deals. I used to work hand-in-hand. They are. They become part of the land development field. Perhaps the land gets written down. 10% 20% is part of the field. It may get happened. But I think what we're excited about is it's a large piece of prime intersection that was spurred development. Some excited about the opportunity to work with the council on that. All right. Thank you. So where are we going to, where's that? Need to pay more. Yeah, we have to pay more. We'll get now 160,000 extra dollars a day. We did. And the reason we got, it's actually 100. We've already incurred about $60,000 of expenses towards this, during the testing and whatnot, and the due diligence money that we had to put down. So obviously, we wanted to add enough that we felt that adding 100,000, and if we have to do another amendment, we can to cover the additional cost. But we feel that 100,000 and then if we have to do another amendment we can to cover the additional cost but we feel that 100,000 won't pretty much cover what we need. All right, so we need to prove a minimum budget ordinance from the one right now? Yes sir. All right, and you explain it in my head, any questions for Alex or Marshall? I'm going to move the approval of a minimum budget ordinance number one and the amount of $2.85. And that was... When she went into the Richardson, she said, the weather is back to the highway. And that's all together. Okay, we'll move on to the next question. So, what if something happens, I mean, it doesn't not close. Does it... It's a bridge. Yeah, and we have to think about it. So does the river get in the way after you think the man is the big one? All right. All right. All right. All the paper? Hi. Hi. I was happy. All right, portion. All right. Our monthly report. We now have learned a month of we are in December and November, it's almost December 12th. And things look very good for us this year. And if you look at the before, the ARP funds actually account for a lot of that, as you point 5 million in the ARP funds. So if we take that away, we would be right at the line from the prior year. And if you're looking at revenues comparing them from last year, we're 2.7 million above. So we're still slightly above what we collect in the prior year. You'll see in the next slide what that represents. This slide here shows revenue by source. Add the worm revenue, so you can see that line. If we look at add the warm sales and use, the big ticket items are those two. And then obviously the art funds that we received down there. But add the warm were a little bit higher there. You can see we have about $36,000. I wouldn't be ahead and collected last year. Sales and use is actually $30,000. I would have been to collect it last year. Sales and use is actually $30,000 higher. And that's one that I feel like we're going to have a lot more sales and use than what we have been. We've been collecting right around the 150 mark. That only represents two months worth of collections there because it collected in a rare so we're collecting close to $150,000 and what it says in these are average losses probably $130. So we can really pick up dollars of things today as they are. Then I'm going to pop down. Yes? On that note with inflation, when it still feels like it's actually less value without being accrued in. When you're talking about the budget, I would say yes, because we didn't plan on spending those dollars. I mean, we planned our expenditures based on what we budgeted, and I'm going to budget it. So we have to stay within that expenditure, no matter what the inflation or whatever. We can't arbitrarily spend the sales and use tax dollars we get in. We would have to come to council like N and say, OK, we got this much more and we can use it for this. So there's a meaning that came up that we would want to spend it on. So we are, we as a, you know, the town are holding our dollars to what we said in the budget process. Palville, we got one of the two distributions. We got 187,100, we usually get a little bit more on the next one. They're usually not equal payments. The franchise and utility tax, that's the cable, and we get four payments a year on that, we did get one distribution at 183,000, and last year's was 175. So that's nice, it's a little bit higher. And then the next big item on that list is under grants, you can see the art funds of 2.572 million. And then last year's number, there was 223,000 and then that represented a care relief. Also that we received in the last fiscal year for expenses actually that we have got very much more. And we're all looking at our budget. We budgeted $7.5 million. We've collected $3.00 almost $4 million so that represents 53% of what we budgeted. But if you take the art funds away, that's going to put us back where we were promised you were pretty much. And looking at expenses, overall general fund expenditures are 2.1 million. and below the budget by 439,000. We are slightly above last year's by 65,000, but it really isn't. I wouldn't put pinpoint anyone thing for that. It's more or less just timing of purchases throughout the year. And we'll look at some of those items next, going by department. I'm not stopping at every slide. Here are questions, please. Okay. I'm gonna look at the items here, looking at, you know, we're four months in, 12, that's 33% in the year, it's represented here. So I'm going to talk to those items where either the department, none of the departments have leaders, there are anyone, there's over over that 33% spend that so far this year. But there are some line items within the departments that are over that. So if we're looking at general government, they're actually below in total, third about 440,000 versus 495 from last year, 495,000. And the white item that kind of sticks out on this is the capital expenditure line. We, those are, that's the 63,000 that I was speaking about and for the we spent for testing and whatnot to purchase the building with that budget amendment that will fix that. Further on now, I think I'm on my circuit, I'm trying to leave it over. I'm going to look at a little bit. Sure, I'm calling from my laptop and get to sleep at home. Thank you. Probably, I'm going not saying it here. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll your total budget if we're looking at the lines that break down just a little bit because I can't see the percent of this. Probably let me see that too. I don't know. I'm sorry. Let's see. The once a group of 30% or 33% would be the outside services and that's really it's a small budget line but there's we pay in any more tanner. It's nothing that's totally out of the ordinary. We do pay a retainer to a attorney and then there's some payment they did and whatnot that make up that 39% versus 33. The next line down on other expenses, there are 52% spend. That's because we pay the insurance, the liability insurance for the PD. It's expensive insurance, actually, for the police department. They're liability insurance and that's paid once at the beginning of the year. So it's kind of front loaded. But that'll even out by the end of the year. There are no problems with that budget line. And then the last, I think that's it. Those are the only ones at over 33. Vehicle, I did want to point out the fuel cost there. Everyone knows that fuel costs are actually going up quite a bit. I believe it will probably be over budget on fuel by at least right around the $20,000 mark if things don't change. So, which is something. I think Chief can absorb it in his budget maybe. I'm going to try to. On another line I didn't, but that is one concern that I you know we spoke about and he's implemented some changes such as turning police cars off unless they're actively you know on a call or something like that we needed to be able to get their vehicles but there are some changes that they're they're looking at in that department to try and make the cost go down for the year. We have transportation, looks very low, 6.8%. And that's mainly, I mean, clearly the road work. We are, the road work for last fiscal year that we have actually bid out. It's, from what I understand, it's pretty much complete. We are a few functional standards so we will be getting about a $300,000 bill for that, which it came in the blue budget for the Pound Bill expenditures for last year. We never did those repairs last year so that work is completed so that will change quite a bit once they get recorded. Public works, they spent 26% in their budget, they're slightly above about $10,000 more than they were last year. Their big ticket line is on willing to go around and that's mainly because they had two. There was a some HVAC fan motor and whatnot that had to be repaired. So there's no problem there, but there were some repairs that had to be done. It's a small budget line that regardless, there's only 19,000 in that budget line and it's 9,000 that they spent. So the small dollars. And then the insurance line is at 36,28% and that's the same thing. We prepared the insurances for the year. Going down and planning we're at 22.4% of total spend. We are actually the lower one spent last year which is 91.98. 98,000 and every time I was raising up a count of three percent. I can be able to see that. Oh wait, there we go. Let's see, 98 percent or maybe that. Sorry. Planning and zoning Okay, planning is a 90 91,000 versus 98,000 24.4% of the budget was spent there are no items that are really in Risk of going on the budget for the year at this point Park and wreck they're at 17.5% total budget use and that's mainly there. They haven't spent the, they have a large amount of money in the capital outlay line or the green line that hasn't been spent yet so that's mainly why that piece of it is what it's making it look like a very small percentage of the total budget was used. All the other lines are within the 33% on her and at work well below. And the purchases that they made for selling fast in the Christmas event, you can see that that hit that line is where the two largest things that we do in the panel, so obviously they're in the cost more than the others. It's at 55% of the spend for the year. obviously they're the cost more than the others. It's at 55% of the spend for the year. So in total, we spent $2,774,000. Last year we spent $2,9,000. And so we're, you know, $65,000 somewhere in there below. And it's 23.4% in the total budget for expenditures for work, is currently your 22. So we're doing very well on expenditure side. Stormwater fund collections are slightly below last year. So I mean, it's so close that, and then we're not changes with the rates that we instituted. It's pretty much a loss as far as how much we've collected this year versus last year. Title expenditures, you can see they're down. They're at 81,000 versus 134,000. Mainly on that the repairs line. Currently the town has 14 storm water projects identified that they're working on and I believe those we've gotten when we picking up on that as well as we I think engineering was really focusing on the powderhole repairs and then we do have some of these projects under way it'll just be a matter of timing this to when they're completed and we have a billing in. So overall storm water looks good. You can see the numbers that we just talked about. This is fun balance. And then we talked about this. We have 11 million 420, however at the beginning of this fiscal year. You can see in the change, in the balance line there, we have pound bill funds that have come in, we haven't had any expenses towards those. They're having some spending in PD for drug forfeiture funds, so it actually reduced the amount that was in fund amounts for that. We had a pick up on fees in women's parking, we got $82,000 in this year, which we added to that amount of money, it's now up to $599,000. And then we have the restricted art funds that came in. They are also, they would be considered a restricted fund, so that would bring that fund balance back up as well. Year-to-day revenues less expenditures. we have spent more than we've collected so that's a minus and if you look at I'm sorry altogether for why say revenues excluding New York funds less expenditures it's a minus and then total fund balance you can see it actually has gone up from the 11.4 to 13.338 as of 1031. The storm water fund, there are revenues exceeded expenditures so it actually went up on 155 and that actually went up to it's 1.223 now. Any questions? The year-to-date revenue less expenditures 906, 652. Marshall, is that budgeted for this year, that's much reflected here, or that's actually spent? That's the actuals. If you take those other numbers away from, I mean it's, if you looked at total revenue minus total expenses it'd be at the 1.9 but I'm pulling out I'm pulling restricted versus non-restricted funds and putting them in buckets then that change is 1.9 but if you're looking at an in total you know we did receive the 2.5 in revenue for the art funds and the paladville funds went up. So it's just really which which pot it goes in on the on the fund balance. Okay. Any other questions? Okay, here's our cash balances. They they ain't going to be very close. I know it's hard to explain what fun balance is versus cash balances because there's always a difference, but they're normally pretty close in numbers. Usually you'll have more cash than what you'll have in fun balance. And this shows, she showed you the chart of the general fund and the chart I just showed you the fund balance. I said it was at 1.33, I mean 13,300 and this is showing 10 cash, it's 13,914. And it's not taking into consideration any purchase orders or accounts payable you might have in there, whereas you're financially statements too. So it's just a, it's a counting actually. It just shows you a difference of, and like she said, it'll never equal, but it does reflect if you're looking at it, it's close. So money that we just offered off basically the paper, building our company in store, where would that come from? That come from, or a volume or a check? It wouldn't pull it from them. Well, it's really, in this part, we could pull it from a check-in account if that's the current balance. And what I do throughout the years, I don't, I usually keep about two million in that checking account, but not knowing when these things were going to settle in some of the costs we were not getting. I kept the balance a little higher. And as the funds come in for the tax payments, you know, once we get so high in the checking account, I'll roll the money into the investment account. But as you can see, it's not paying much in interest each month it's kind of I did look at some other investment options and to be honest with you it's it's if you're looking at a one-year return to put it in it might be you know $100 or $200 difference. So yes, it is $200, but it's a matter of really knowing that the trust is there. You know what your funds are doing, most how it's your investing in that, and not the other investments that I just looked at last week, so I'm like, you know, I still have some investigating to do on that one. But it's possible we could do some of the money and there I would move it all in, but I'd make some. But it won't change investment income all that much. So altogether, if we look at all the funds that we have, general fund stormwater, and this we're fine, we're at about 14.6 million dollars So in summary You know revenues or high our funds expenditures are below budget and only pretty much at the same level from fiscal year our cash balance is high and truly you know We we really expect the environmental spending will pick up. We have to purchase police cars we haven't spending any of the funds for the green light so as the months come up we will be spending more of our cash and obviously the purchase of the and he's going to be able to do that. So, any questions? Okay, and that's one's a long laugh. They're making out though, I'm trying to. Yeah, I mean, it's, I think he's an over-hours discussion on this fact, he's on the fall term, and I think that is a bad relationship or working. And then I, uh, while we, uh, I'm not sure how much of that I appreciate how it works. One of the next times we look at it, I'm very happy with this one. This one will take a while. That's the one with the data there. There's a lot of data in there. There's a lot of data in there. I don't want to give it the attention. Right, it's very important. So, one we take with, and tell you, it's on the agenda item, Alex, if we don't have a lot going on, maybe 13. Time to do it. True. Go ahead to table. And I think the 13th, there'll be a lot on that item for a couple of reasons. First, there's a lot on one meeting in December, obviously. One regularly, and secondly, it's an organizational meal in being, so there'll be a lot of things going into that. So I might suggest maybe the first meeting in January, or in April. Yeah, because I certainly like the new council member at the two new ones, then. Mm-hmm. Here, there's, it's good information. Really? You know, it being great exercise on that here, this one really is the only change from what you've seen before is going to be the addition of the new, the purses of the new building. It's sharing it there in reflectance, so that's the really substantial change in this. But move it to the January, early January. It's good. This back, you can be with it. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for letting me tease you. Thank you all for the hard work, Mike. You're doing great work, Mike. I'm just going to bring it on to the question. All right, ready? Alex. Thank you. And I will be as far as I'm running as a typical painting, because I know it's late, and I don't think this is a controversial one. So as we move in, we're going to be counseling members. And one of the things we need to think about, be thoughtful about, is how we support the town council transition. And so we'd rather apply on the goal is to support education integration and revive that Australian-evolved elected officials. So the New Town Council cannot array effectively, ethically, and pre-functional as a government. So we've tried to do that, we've thought for about how we do it. There's a number of about how we do it. There's a number of steps to go into it. Step one is building the kind of foundational knowledge, having gone through it with the Councilman for Raiders and Councilman for Raiders. Here in the Councilman for the challenges they face initially, tried to address that. So having a boot camp orientation, having to be a full day, we have somebody come in to talk to you about the Council Manager for the government. That's a big part of it. I think it's something they don't need to hear from me. Because it didn't really, the Council Manager for the government in the function, the managers got to be able to accept when the council tells him or her note, right? That's the easy part, right? Communicate down. But at the same time, the council members have to accept sometimes when he or she's acting within the scope of their authority. No, the town council's got to accept that, right? That's what a big part of the council in the've all come up and knowing the failings of the limitations there. So we talk about that. You do a run through everything. How do you do the town, the departments to organizational structures, talk about silly things that we don't want to take for granted in a new person like me. Hey, somebody's complaining about a pile. What do I do? Mayor is going to have a lecture with the mayor and you can talk with it about respect. Dialogue expectations, things like that, everything went off through, probably a little board or procedures, things like that. And we'll do a mock meeting, things like that. Step two would be continually building a new member's foundational knowledge. And we're really trying to integrate with the new council. And what I would recommend is to try to do as much as possible in tenant and person essentials within this government, which is presented by the ANC school government. And we've got some dates and time to one circle back around with y'all on that but it will meet everybody's requirements for part of that training and it can be a relationship building in the same time. Who has, Y'all get it? The essentials are very... Yeah. You all read the essentials of your own? Yep. Yeah, is that what we want to do? You've been in yet, you can have a little break. I'm just kidding. And Brad, you have a little bit for 15 years maybe. Oh, skip it. Yeah, I'm sorry to see that. I'm sorry to see that. All the things that you're talking about, all the that we do so. Is this like a learning experience from us among meeting? I think that's important. Well for me, they screwed up on and fixed that. Well, I don't think it's what you screwed up on. We screwed up on you. This is a... What I mean by that is when we talk about training and support, right, a lot of time it's in the context of employees, right? It's obviously very important. But we also need to do it for workers as well. So that's a big part of it. And then finally step three, we'll be trying to integrate everybody in development, common set of parties. So my first suggestion would have the mayor appoint a couple of folks to work with the manager being on the Civic Ultimate Format of the 2022 Anything More Treat. And then I would rank for Kerr Wall who's former Charlotte City Manager to facilitate their treat. You can talk with everybody along the line, get a little bit synthesized everything, facilitate for us and help develop access. An optional thing for the work to consider would be doing a personality assessment. So we may be rolling around with our eyes you know how much I believe in a musical and intelligent citizen, relationship, building, I think it's as important as anything else, but that is optional. You don't have to do that. And so what I'm seeking from the board tonight with these several things, Council approval of the draft plan, authorizing me to move forward. Mayor, we can talk about the appointment of the staff probably not a time. I'm just getting out of the mail. If anybody's interested in that, please what Mayor Dunham and Permit know. And then I'd love to see if there's a time and day for the essentials of being in school car, but of course that works for everybody. Recognizing that we're not gonna get everybody on a track just because they're busy lives. Well, the dude had the virtual, I'm gonna last time a way as a group. I didn't go in the four-five guys, four-five cash in the middle cast members, and I enjoyed it and it was a good talking experience. And the two new people that got elected, not served well in communities, they ran, they started getting better. And you don't know very well. So it might be critical. So look at the language, on very well. So, it might be critical. So, looking to, looking to accomplish, and see if we can get away because of something. It is one over nine, all these places, and I had it in trouble with the clock war, and I can even create a change over it. I want you to give us some dates. Did you? There are, so there are several dates. The first one is December 16th, so the student's 17th, I recognize that it's early, and probably as I am, we're through the body, because it's quite a Christmas. But the two dates I had in Ohio and in real, were January 6th and 7th, which is in Nashville, and in January 13th and 14th, which is in Williamsville. So that's the one you said you couldn't attend. So, I can't do the Wilmington one. If I can't get my wife with, let me come back one day. One of those things got a truly planned, but so the six and the seven that be the one that be ideal for my lunch back. And I'm marked that that would work for me as well. We're just going to put out. Great. We'll send out a ditto poll when we get this work out. Yeah, we have to do this poll. As far as the giving the conversation on the, it was important, what's it called? Relationship building, exercise. I don't like it when I have to do them in work. We can bond over lunch or something. Unless somebody else, I mean, what's the pleasure of testing? If they bring the bandings, this can be figured out. Is that not the everybody fall back with the trust fall? Who will be the student? Is that what we're doing? I think you're talking about the personality assessment. But there is some value to it having been a few of those in the past, but I get the reluctance to do it. But I want to. There is a 4 grand cost, which is expensive, I think. Yeah, if it weren't for that, I probably wouldn't want to do it, but I'm not sure I'd do a bit about that price tag. But that is going great for that kind of stuff. So I don't think it's that bad to see. That's an optional that whoever's working with Alex can work through that. That's a great suggestion. I hear a judge, John might say, that's too much. Maybe there's a way to get that down on them. We can talk more about it with the group. I will say, I think we've committed one day in the past. We would take an hour to do that. So the car, the personality assessment exercise. A couple hours out of our already very, very tight scheduled for strategy planning, priority setting. That's probably an argument against doing it in my mind. And is this four thousand months for two people? This would be the entire world. Plus the town meeting. That's a great one. Yeah, so my point, the entire award. Yes. And plus the champion. That's a great one. Yes. So my point about, you know, does somebody want to participate? You know, I'm not going to participate. If everybody doesn't want to participate, then I'm just saying, let's show it. We don't know if the other tuning people, whether they would or wouldn't, so I think it. So here's a requirement. You'd be on the council, you have to take a personal advantage of it. You know, not going to do it. So I think there's a table that I'm not being. Okay. There are some, the system's up, January, just so about, wait, is that like a, that's in Nashville, so is that a start time early in the morning on the six and it's all into six and all into seven. That kind of looks good. Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know if it's specific answer to that but I can find out I suspect it would probably be, you know, probably nine o'clock start time on the sixth and then you might it be all day on the sixth and then it may last until three or four on the seventh. I'll get the time for some kind of figured out. We'll do that with some of that a do-go. All right. Okay. Thank you Alex. Okay. Okay, thank you Alex. Just to make clear, I've got this transition plan sound good, move forward. I'm able to get with you to, you can point to every one of point. And then we'll send out a beautiful poll in the time to try to get that all squared away and coordinate with our members. Thank you. Thank you for the work. Thank you. Yes sir. I was going to be more like a so rewarding rush. I'm sorry. Thank you. All right. Next up is the five a that you thought I wanted to three peak update from out. Yes, and a very very brief way. I wanted to mention a lot of public update on where we're at and also say we can put this on our website. But a week or two ago, one of our state elected officials contacted the mayor asked us to sit down and chow them. And we learned that the $1.6 million that we'd asked for an Alplugged budget deficit for you. 512, $1.2 a month, it was in current draft with the state budget. But the Senate had added some language that said it's got to be a huge, exclusively for property owned by the Graham or 17th Senate. So we reformed that at the Senate put this language in for property owned by the Grand Prissendian City. So we reformed that at the Senate, put this language in there, over concerns that projects receiving additional grants would unfairly move ahead of other projects in the state's priority-raking process. And how for us, the purpose of getting this language was to try to address that budget against a state-private rate. So this language is currently ridden, is could be potentially problematic because part of close-up claims is state property, right? So subsequently, the panel tried urgently to get this potentially problematic language changed how these efforts were unsuccessful. And the government signed the budget of the most price-friendly. So right now we're currently assessing all options, consulting with our attorney to see also what we're going to make sure we're being lawful and ethical when we do these follow-ons. And we're also here in order to help those with low-to-depth data set for potter and pleasant pleasure. So that's kind of where we stand. And happy to take any questions and plan on pushing something similar when I just shared online or running public transparency page regarding that market. Yeah, and then I'm in regular contact with the DOT board and they were in Charlotte. And he told me everything off until I took a budget of sign, so the science now, so they have money, like everybody else now, so you get our shift, there's road. And the second question I asked on the company that I broke the light, you know, the D.O.G. engineers, is that I come this road and I'm such an admin schooler yet, and I was wondering, and I'm very close to, these wide, thereminimum-driven research, and the schoolwork, I was thinking about the process why I had to go to school, and some of them identified as a safety issue. The third thing is that when I saw Indian trail, that 10-day knowledge from a safety road improvement program, they were brought to Christ there to one of our meetings in the assembly. They could make He wanted our music, and we'll show him. He made a case for us. So, some ways of skinning down on the same thing. It's not over yet. So, thank you, Alex. All right. That's it, Cheeky. You said you had a meeting in the comments. No, sorry. No. I don't get it. I appreciate you being here. Good answer. Yeah. That's the right answer. Anything else? Any comments? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. 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