Good evening ladies and gentlemen we appreciate you being here tonight for the Thursday Mark 7th regularly stable meeting and as we're saying Council, we'll link the agenda tonight and we will try to move that that as expeditiously as possible. As you can tell, we've invited the fire staff that are present to be up the front. We've got a stark meeting with, if you will, stand and go on to be in the moment of silence meditation and I'm going to invite you to pray to the New Man and to a comfortable. We will finish that with pledge allegiance and we'll be in charge of Thank you. I put a question to you, to simplify the United States of America and to do a republic with which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Council, you're having your packet of resolution honoring the entire firefighter, John H. Smith, the third, how would you ask the chief about the motion to adopt that fire rep? We'll do it about my reference. I have a motion by Mr. Birx. So I have a second. Second? Okay. Second. Second, Mr. Burk. So I have a second. Second? Okay. There it is. Second, Mr. Carter. You have a discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Oh, yeah. I'll call the City Manager John Ogburn to start the recognition of our retired firefighter. So I privilege to introduce John Smith III. He's another John III on the City of payroll. We'll put him on. Other John tonight, the 30 years of service for the Aspirer Firefighter. It's a great firefire. It's a great teacher for our brand new firefightersfires and on top of that just a great person. That's probably best for the soul. And I'll turn it over to Chief. Go ahead and present it. I would like to say that since I've been here, John has been a man of the table. He's consistent. He knows what he gets when he walks. He knows he doesn't have time. He cares about the community. He always talks about his work. And he cares about his work about the farm. Thirty-one years of role he was served as a community. That's a matter of some. That is truly something to celebrate. You know what I'm saying? Joe, hold that. You're like, you're stupid. You're stupid. So, you're like, you're stupid. So, you're like, you're stupid. So, you're like, you're stupid. So, you're like, you're stupid. So, you're like, you're stupid. So, you're Thank you. In John on behalf of the Mayor of the City of Council and all the citizens out there, this is the official city retirement plaque. It was in the John A. Smith III. An appreciation for the voted service in the fire department, that's Firefighter 2, and for 31 years of dedicated service to the city of Ashford. John was hired October 1, 1988. His last official day was February 28, 2019. Thank you very much. Thank you, my name is John. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. It's been awesome. It's sort of a serious problem. Thank you, man. Thank you. John, thank you for the sweet. Thank you. I thought you saw it. Okay, little one. We'll take a minute if the firefire is going to, if I want to hang around and watch the next two recommendations we can do that. Okay, we'll do that. John and Chief, you come up and we will recognize Deborah McKenzie for her years of dedicated service to Asher Brown and his police department. I don't know who they are. Oh, here's my glasses for you. Debbie is a dedicated... Oh, sure. She's a dedicated human being. And she has dedicated her life before God and for chosen profession law enforcement. Debbie comes to us in 2000 and she has a lot more experience than just since 2000. She came from Rental County Sheriff's Office. She has served over 30 years. We law enforcement and I am very proud of her tonight. I'm also a computer shrink as a loser and she is a great asset in Debbie for the last several years as working our Seattle D. Division for kids. That's getting kid crops as well like to it and she's saying a lot of things, experience a lot of things that she'll never forget and I want to thank her for her service tonight, and I want to present to you your son. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. And I'm a posh tribute I can pay to the head of her profession. There's some years, a couple of years ago, we had a lot of retirements in the police department. It changed a bunch of people around. Got to call for District Attorney. Please don't move the head of the CID and all she does for us as they said, crimes. For against youngsters, she's the finest detective of the District Attorney's Office work. So we are losing to be a great investigator and like John Smith before a great person. And Dave, you don't have to the mayor and the City Council of all the citizens I'll present to you the official city retirement plaque which presented to Derbyorson McKinsey, and the Pre-Jation for the Voting Service, the expert police department is Master Police Self-Strength Detective. For 19 years from 1115 to 31219. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE I just want to say it's been an honor and a privilege and I've worked with some of the best people who have ever voted down. the devil above them. Thank you. APPLAUSE If I may, I will tell one more thing on this. And her retirement sheet will be continuing to work with young crime victims. We still have the experience. Yes. Jim Browse. I'll say something all good. It's always exciting having a rile. Jim Browse, getting to us in 1999. And he has been a great asset to our department. He has worked in several different capacities and detected, and we're promising him as a data. He has retired as a master soldier, and just a well-put knowledge, and always just a breath of fresh air. And I'm going to sorely, sorely miss you. And I'll retire as great. That's great. That's so good. But I half of the ceiling will position your saddle. Thank you. The police officer has got a big tail from this fellow employees. He's got a big personality. Get them fun and big around. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. The important thing is that if we have an incident happened here at the city hall, bad checks or somebody tried to do something, they would pick on a place to park. Hey, get over there to City manager and you hear his guy. Get on over there. You're in. Right. So Jim, on behalf of Mayor Smith and the Council on all the citizens, will present to you your official retirement flag and for representing James Brown, Jack Plexigrailles Jr. And I appreciate you for the voter service, the Ask for a Police Department, retiring as Master Sergeant in for 20 years of service. February 24, 1999, the March 1st, 2019. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thanks for being here. Super neat. Special to you. Two minutes. Don't be afraid. No, I'll bring it. Okay. Thank you. You retired. Okay. All right. Good. Thank you. Next item on the agenda, let's call Kevin Franklin to deliver an interim president of the Atlanta Economic Development Corporation, like to have him deliver the annual report for the EDC and introduce your, I think you have a spread from up here. I do. Yes, thank you for allowing me to be here this evening is that's a very difficult act to follow right there. Some retirements and fine, fine folks there. So Mayor Council, thanks for the opportunity to be here. I do have with me this evening Clyde Phillips who is the chair of the EDC board this year. So, appreciate him coming. And I think the only other member of our board we have is sitting here in the mayor's seat. So, Mayor Smith, thank you for your service on our board as well. I will be brief. Just a quick overview. This past year was a year of transition at the EDC. As you know, Waltz Browse came in in November of 2017, filled the full year. We had some positive activity and results under his leadership, and he has announced his retirement. So we are once again in a time of transition. I will say that the board is working on a transition plan, and so we appreciate their confidence in me during that interim period. A couple of highlights just for the EDC over the course of the year. We did move to a new location, 176 North Fetville Street. It's a great location here in the center of the city. We participated in a number of marketing trips and professional development classes over the year. We overhauled the EDC website, made some adjustments to our marketing materials as well. So lots of activity just internally at the office. It was a good year overall for business and activity in the EDC, Ferrandorf County and City of Ashbur as well. We had six different expansion projects that were able to capture grant dollars, Liberty Trailers and Liberty, and Bella Home Products and Archdale, Trinity Furniture and Trinity, Ernie Green Industries, and the Seagrew of Area, and of course, Pemko Manufacturing here in Ashboro, committing to 20 due jobs, about $700,000 in building investment and another half a million in new equipment. That's a great opportunity for the city of Ashbury to see some growth in terms of jobs and tax base. A couple other things that were going on here in the city, just a few other highlights. We had Technomark continuing to hire and they're still the largest private employer that we have in the county, let it in the city with just over 1200 jobs. Clopsner home furnishings right behind them with right around 1200 jobs and they're doing well seeing some increase in the e-commerce business as well. So that's good news there. I mentioned Pemko's expansion, MATLAB invested about $200,000 in a small expansion in 2018 as well. Thomas Tire, I saw Angela here, who is the HR manager at Thomas Tire. So they renovated the former Good Year facility, and I know most of you, if not all of you, have been in to see the amazing transformation of that building, so we appreciate their investment in the community. And of course, I would be remiss if I didn't mention fiber text, personal care. It was great to see their groundbreaking last year, 2018, and it's great to know that in just a few weeks, I know that you all have been invited to a grand opening over there as they begin production right here in Ashboro. So great things happening in Randolph County, great things happening in the city of Ashboro. We continue to market the the megasight as well and are convinced that we're going to see a large transformational end user there that's going to be transformational for the entire community, county, region and state. So in a nutshell, great things that are happening. Business activity remains strong. We're continuing to field inquiries. We've got several other potential expansions here in the city of Ashboro that are happening. Business activity remains strong. We're continuing to field inquiries. We've got several other potential expansions here in the city of Ashboro that are kind of waiting in the wings and we're working with them. Hopefully we'll see some announcements. So good things happening. Appreciate your time. Happy to answer any questions that you may have this evening. Thank you. Thank you. Council, you have been probably double-leaved. Council, you have in front of the consent agenda. Any item on the consent agenda as presented. Mayor, I move we could be consenting to add to that motion, but I'm just going to be able to approve the consent agenda. Second, my snows. A new discussion. All the papers say I. I'll oppose what I sign. Both in Cury's consent agenda is approved. Okay. Travel wherever you're up. I am now on your agenda. It's Trevor Nuddard, the dean of the Alpine Director of 9A, the Quadri-Divisional hearing which I will open. The Eurospheres you currently have an application created by proposed modifications to the existing won't you finally develop and operate under special use permit. Thank you Mayor. This case is a quasi judicial hearing and as such all speakers will need to be placed under oath by the city clerk prior to providing testimony. Now would be an appropriate time for anyone wishing to speak to step forward. Take the oath to the next floor. Mr. Mayor, I've distributed the site plans and building elevations that go along with this case. I'll note for this evening's meeting, there is a sign-in book at the podium here for folks who plan on speaking and have not been sworn if they will sign in the book and take the oath. The folks can still participate in this hearing. They'll just need to take the oath prior to providing testimony. The applicant on this special use permit request is the property owner, Ashbroe Residential LLC, represented by Mr. Alex Zaris. This property location has two addresses, 2280 and 2282 North Fayetteville Street. This is a request for, in essence, a new special use permit due to what is considered a site plan modification under the city zoning ordinance. And specifically, the property owner is proposing to construct some detached garages as a part of this apartment complex to serve the residents of the development. We have one county parcel ID involved in this request. It's just under seven acres in size. The currently have multi-family development on the site. It's the Madison Heights apartment complex. Zoning is a straight, R.A.6 district. The project was issued, especially used permit. Several years ago authorizing the flora area ratio of up to 22%, which is the maximum the city permits for apartment complexes. So that permit is in hand, but because the applicant is wishing to add additional structures to the property, the ordinance does require a new permit to be reviewed and considered by the council. So in 2004, as I said, the permit authorizing the project was issued. The modifications now proposed due trigger a renewed permit request. This is because of the mouth of square footage that's being proposed with these garages. It's important to remember that the application does not propose that density to the project and it's not actually considered part of the overall floor area ratio of that 22%. That strictly looks at habitable space and instance of the apartments. But the fact that additional buildings are being proposed is what's bringing this plan back for review. The development has 72 dwelling units currently, as I said, there are no new units proposed only storage buildings. This is properly located within the city limits. North Thavel Street is maintained by the State Department of Transportation. It is a major thoroughfare. And you'll see on some of our maps and on the site plan there is 100-year flood zone located on the property, Jason Haskis Creek. But you'll see from looking at the site plan there are no new structures or really development proposed within that sensitive area. Up on the screen is a map that shows the subject parcel of Madison Heights apartment complex outlined in red. Zoom in a little closer that blue and white crosshatching is the 100 year flood plain. You can see the rectangular boxes on the map are the existing structures which are outside of this flood plain. And if you'll look at the site plain, you'll note that the proposed garages are likewise outside of the flood plain. To the north, you have forest ridge apartments, also a multi-family project as well, as to the south with Matthew Graham departments. And we have Franklin Village, Franklin Village neighborhood to the west of the subject parcel. And we have Franklin Village, the Franklin Village neighborhood to the west of the subject parcel. Property already receives full array of city services including Water and sewer obviously. The topographic map kind of shows the lay of the land which falls from the high portion of the property as you move south and east on the property. And this is an aerial from several years ago that gives you an idea of the building locations and the development pattern for this area. This is just a snapshot for the audience to see what the site plan of the council is looking at before them. But again, you'll see both the existing structures, the apartment units as well as the smaller rectangular boxes that are those proposed detached accessory garages. As required there's also been billing elevations submitted to give you an idea of what these will look like. I can see they are a single story with I believe final siding proposed and and masonry foundation. This is just a greater detail of this. Let me also report as I'm thinking of this. The city staff did send out the required public notice to adjoining property owners for this case as required by law. And the case was advertised in the career tribune as well. So there are several building ovulations. We have a few photos. Just to remind everybody where this is, this is the view looking from the subject from Fayetteville, at the subject property. This isn't, you are looking at an area which would see some of these garages located. But there is a setback as noted on the site plan. This is an interior view of the subject property. If the project is fully built out, you would find some accessory buildings to the far right of the picture there. And then we have a view looking south along North Fable Street from the frontage of the property, and then a view looking north from the subject property. I can report the city staff all the the pertinent review points have reviewed the plan. There are no comments. The plan revisions have been requested from the city have been made so we can report that the site plan as presented does meet the city's development codes. Up on the screen are the four findings of the fact that you'll recognize that are better required in order to issue a special use permit That is the applicants responsibility to address those findings that concludes my remarks. May I be happy to answer any questions? Probably not. I think the only difference between page 1 and page 2 is you can see faintly some topo lines on phase 2. So I give you an idea, a better idea of the property as it relates to the building locations. Okay. That's a public hearing. I don't know. Uh, follow him. We're ready to come to the other half. Thank you. Ron. Good evening. Members of the council. I'm Rodney Mason of the Asheville Bar. I represent, uh, Madison Heights, which is, uh, the project you were looking at on the screen, it's owned by Asheville residential. And with me this evening is the owner of Ashboro residential, Mr. Olympus Errs. And Mr. Errs and I have discussed the findings of fact. And so I want to elicit testimony from him on the findings of fact. But before I do that, members of the council, we have a copy of the 2005 order that the council granted special use permit to Madison you a little bit more. Get your arm to reach the lift, this part, that's it out. This is a sort of tie copy that I've trying to see the attorney's decision help me with that, so I'm trying to be as regular in all those bags. I have a contract. I've got more than enough. I'm not sure about this one. So I need more. Thank you very much. of the 2005 Order by the City Council allowing the special use permit granted to Madison Heights. I would ask that you direct your attention to page 2, paragraph 11. And if you allow me to read it to you, this is findings of fact, number 11, the applicant referring to Madison Heights is pursuing this application for the principal purpose of adding amenities to the project, such as a clubhouse on a car wash and not for the purpose of increasing the total number of units. You will recall from Mr. Nuttles' report prepared for this evening's hearing, he says on page 1 that there are about four lines down in paragraph 3, although the additional structures should not count towards the maximum 22% floor area. And he goes on to say that it is the modification requires action by the council. He says in paragraph four, there are currently 72 dwelling units in the development. No additional dwelling units are proposed. I would also direct your attention paragraph five. Where the staff notes that a portion of the property is within the 100-year flood area, however, no new structures or new parking areas are proposed within the flood area. So we submit to members of the council that essentially much of the evidence going towards the 4-prong test that you see before you, the findings of fact required that the council make to find the existence of standard conditions, has been ruled upon by the council back in 2005 and that just as in 2005 Madison Heights sought to add amenities. So they are here before you tonight seeking to add amenities. These being garages or storage areas and Mr. Zaris will testify to that just shortly. But before we leave the order granted by the council in 2005, I direct your attention to paragraph 15 of the findings of fact where it was found that no testimony was presented in opposition to the applicants request. And I would say at this time, I must counsel that we do not know of any opposition by anyone joining landowners or otherwise realize that remains to be seen but that's what we anticipate based on our conversations with joining landowners. come up and ask him to testify as to the foreprong test for the findings of fact that the council must find substantial evidence of introduce to support. Mr. Saras, would you for the record state your full name please? It's Alexander Olympus, Zaris. And your address, please. I live in Sarasota, Florida. Archer, how are you employed? I work for, I'm the president of Zaris and company, my management arm of Ashboro Resident, I show. So, and the member Syrian, I might be the only one who's here and is going. Sorry. I might be the only one who's here and is going. Sorry. And are you familiar with the project matters? How are you familiar with the project, Madison Heights? I'm directly responsible for it. I oversee the management of it directly. Well, in fact, in ownership as well. Right. Yes, sorry. And when did you acquire Madison Heights? June 2018. And what motivated you to purchase Madison Heights? Well, we like the area. My son decided to go to school in North Carolina and we began looking in the area and fell in love with Hashbro and the rest is history. I have you had any experience in the development of real property? I've been involved in all types of residential million in acquisition, redevelopment, management of, I think, probably eight different multi-family properties. Similar to Matt Zerner. Very much so, yes. And are they all here in North Carolina? Are they all located in North Carolina? No, we're in multiple states. We're in Florida, Indiana, and North Carolina. So. All right, sir. Before you required, Madison Heist, did you have an afternoon to talk to the people who lived there, woman opinion as to the nature and the character of the project? Well, probably not to the residents, because that's not allowed before you purchase, but after the fact, you know, a chance to meet them. Absolutely. You can gauge by the property how well it's been maintained and managed. So it's a good, good property, good people, very good people. So. And did an idea, a teller council, if an idea occurred to you that you thought might work to or operate to improve the project? I think we get a lot of feedback. We have nowhere for our people with kids, specifically because probably our number one thing. They just, we have kids need a chance to be able to have a good place to play. And there is opportunity and space for that. But just simple things like where do they put their bikes? There's no storage on that facility, none. So they sit in the common areas, which are three-story walk-up. There's landings at each level, and when you walk, it's kind of hard to tell somebody, hey, move that bike, move it, but it becomes a, it's a problem, it becomes a safety issue when there gets strewn on there or get pushed to the side or something. Kids are kids. So we were looking at different options and opportunities and ways. And we heard from everybody if there's a way we could have space to put this, you know, put this. And then just standard storage for some of their stuff that becomes unsightly. They tarp it. And you know, it's just funny what people will do and where they'll put it. And we don't want the community to become unsightly. So we looked at this as an option. Our technology director attention specifically to the task or by the general conditions. And ask you, do you have an opinion satisfactory to yourself as to whether the construction of the garages or the storage buildings that you heard Mr. Null speak of and that our part of his report you've seen his report right. Well materially in danger the public health or safety if they're located where you propose to locate them and constructed according to the plan that you submitted. Do you have an opinion? I do have an opinion. What is your opinion? And my opinion would be that it doesn't endanger that it actually enhances its actually an improvement to the physical property there. We eliminate unsightliness. We eliminate stuff that could become a fire hazard. Stuff stored, people just naturally start storing underneath stairs and in corners and can't fit inside their house or it's a bike or whatever. That's one of our big problems. But I think it's very clear that it would not endanger, it would enhance public safety and health, not put it in danger. It would enhance public safety and health, not put it in danger. Archer, now after you did purchase the property, did you, in fact, have an occasion, or did you talk to some of the residents out there concerning your idea many times? Since, tell the council how your proposal was greeted by the residents. It was, it was more so brought to me than even us to them. It was like, it would be really nice if you know we need a place for it would be good to have that was that was the conversation that's kind of what ignited it quite frankly you know where do we put this stuff all right turn to the second test that the used meets all required conditions and specifications of the Ashboro's only ordinance. How did you proceed as far as meeting the requirements of the Ashboro's only ordinance once you decided proposed to construct the garage? Like say yes to number two that I actually do think that it meets it and the process was I just started with the city. So I started in all your office's and over the last five, six months probably just what would the process be? What do I need to do and then engage Mr. Kivitz here to assist me and look at the process first to make sure that it was something that was viable that we could bring before you and present. So that was the process. All right, sir. And the best of your knowledge information that we could bring before you and present. So, that was the process. Arthur. And the best of your knowledge information and belief does the use as you propose it meet all required conditions and specifications the Asheville's own rules. So the best of my knowledge, yes. Are turning to number three, do you have an opinion that's from whether or not to use? So I'm talking about the construction of the garages or storage areas. Will substantially enter the value of adjoining or a buddy profiting. I think it, yes, they do have an opinion and I think it will actually, it actually helps. You know, if you can drive by, you know, presentation is everything and if you go by a community and there's junk laying out everywhere or tarps are pulled over or people don't care if that's what gets presented then that's a limiting value so to the extent that we can have a place for that specifically then all of a sudden you've got something that's different now you have a clean environment and you're enhancing the value of not just our property but I think the adjoining properties as well it's a positive investment for everybody in the area. Do you expect it to increase the value of Madison Heights? Well, I mean you're going to spend money so it obviously is going to. It's better. And the increase in the value of Madison Heights, are you suggested to the council, could normally result in the increase of the value of a joint property. You know, something that we've always done, we all, outside of Madison Heights, which is a beautiful property already, but we tend to go into a community and renovate and enhance a property, and it's amazing when you do positive things on one property, what happens up and down, it's infectious. And I think you guys would know that in any community when somebody comes in and commits hard work and investment of time and money. And in most of those situations, it's always a positive to the adjoining. You know, and we designed this so that it would aesthetically fit in. We'll talk about that, but absolutely. I think it's absolutely positive for the neighborhood. All right, sir. We're speaking of aesthetics. Direct your attention to the fourth and last prom. Do you have an opinion as to whether or not the location and character of the construction of the garages or storage buildings if they are developed according to the plan you submitted? We'll be in harmony with the area in which you are going to locate them. And in general conform harmony with the area in which you are going to locate them and in general conformity with the plan to develop a development, excuse me, of ash boron attendants. Yes, I have an opinion in order. As you can see from the plants, we're going to match the same aesthetic finishes that you already have. So the brick facades, I don't want just ugly straight line boxes in there. You want it to have some design and curb appeal and some dimension to it. So that's been put into the plan that's in front of you so that we would address those things. You know, brick facades that matches, everything will match with the current construction that's already there. with the current construction that's already there. Are there, or will there, strike that? Will it be any change in the parking area that presently exists if you construct the garage slash storage units as you plan proposes? I don't believe we're changing. I don't think we're changing anything as far as number of spaces that are currently already there which we already have in excess. We already surpass the current requirement of needed parking spaces. They'll actually enhance that a little bit better because let's say 50 60% of them are now parking their cars in there. It kind of opens that up. So I think it actually, it's an enhancement to that. Not a detraction. I'm not taking away parking spaces to see. All right. Some people will be parking in the unit that you build. Right. That's right. Arthur, I forgot to ask you, Mr. Zers. How long have you been involved in the development of real property projects like the one this before the council tonight? 30 years 30 years. Rezero 30. Yeah. I bought my first house when I was 15. So the council might want to know that 15 Granted it it I borrowed money from my grandma and that was my first project that I ever did so Excellent and that was my first project that I ever did. So, it's excellent. All right, sir. Did you have anything else? That's it. You felt would be a venture to the council. No, that's good. All right. If they have any questions from Mayor, we'll entertain. Questions are the applicant. I just want to just add a curiosity and not that it's really there is on there. I'm finding it. But again, it is going to be one for each grain of organic. It's going to be red, not too good. There's not enough space for that. So what we did is, with work with Bobby, anything that could stay out of the floodplain that didn't impact our roadways, that are already existing for ingress, egress. Correct? So we just, where it could fit and wouldn't look ridiculous. You've got to make sure that that has a good aesthetic feel too. So, but... No, I understand. Yes, just curious. Yeah. That was my curiosity as well. When I'm counting the spaces on area, you have 72 units in there, but I'm counting 36. It serves about half of it. It serves about half. Yeah. And again, just out of curiosity, how do you, is it a lottery? How do you determine who gets that? I think, I mean, you would make them available at a cost. I think that you'd see more of the need on, you know, your two, your two or three bedroom units where they really have that with that extra space. So if there's 18 one you know I think it would work that way. I haven't quite determined that but that's pretty serious Thank you. We have one further witness. Mr. Mayor And would you state your name and address please? Bobby Kivitt. And do you live here in Reynolds County? Yes sir. In fact are you acquainted with the council? I am. And what is? I know. There's qualifier. He never comes. Apparently they buried you know we are with them. How are you employed Mr. Kivitt? I am retired from the City of Ashbur, and I am employed with various places. I'm part of time with a local engineering firm, some engineering, and I have my own business that I do various things. Parts are on the support of that business where you, in fact, employed by Mr. Olympusimpazar, I suggest recently testify the owner of Madison Heights to assist him in bringing his plan into compliance with the requirements of the city council. Ashboro's owning ordinance, how is it? Now, when you were working for the city of Ashboro, Mr. Kivitt, did you in fact deal with zoning matters? Kaisley. I asked for a misde訊, did you in fact deal with zoning matters? Casally. Arthur. So you're no stranger to the findings of fact that have to come because council has to find before the application for the special use permit can be granted. That's fine. You see them before you. And were you able to hear Mr. Zairer's test to find? I was. Okay. And do you agree with's test fine. I was. Okay. And do you agree with what he said? I did. And do you in fact have an opinion as to whether or not the four prong tests will be met by the plans and specifications submitted to the city for the construction of the garage slashed towards units? I feel like they will. All right. Do you not have any questions. We good. Thank you. I was good. It was like, Mr. Mason, I feel like your client has been acquitted. I certainly hope, Judge, when he told me he worked for the city, I said, well, that could be good and it could be. He worked for the city. I said, well, that could be good and it could be. But Mr. Mayor, may please the council you've heard the evidence And I argue to you that the applicant has met it burdened by the greater way to present substantial evidence supporting the application for the approval of the special use under the Ashburr's owning ordinance, I introduce in the evidence that you've heard from Mr. Zarris and from Mr. Kivitt and that therefore the applicant praised the council granted application for special use and allowed to construct the improvements to Madison Heights according to the plans and specifications. And I don't want to go over it necessarily again, but I would say to you members of the council very briefly, that basically we're here asking for a modification, the special use permit that was granted, and that you have in front of you back in 2005. And unless I'm terribly surprised, there's not only no opposition in the community by the joint landowners, this was an idea you were going to set. Zara assessed the fire that was brought to him basically by the folks that lived there and they're looking forward or hoping that the council will approve it so that he can begin construction. For had numerous conversations with Mr. Nuddle before we appear tonight, Mr. Nuddle has been tremendously helpful in explaining to me what was going on and I certainly appreciate that. Also spoke to the city attorney, Mr. Suggle, on more than one occasion. And he explained, I thought very well, what a quasi-judicial hearing is. And this concludes our presentation at a quasi-judicial hearing, unless there are any questions that I can attempt to answer. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Is anyone else in the room that would like to address the council regarding this request? Okay, here it is. We will move to the deliberative phase of the process and I ask council for their thoughts. out. There I am with proofing that special guest from that. Good question. We have a motion by Councilman Bell for a proof to approve the request. Do I have a second second? Second, Mr. Swerves. Any discussion? All the people say aye. Aye. All the toes like time. Motion carries. Thank you. I'll try to say aye. Aye. All opposed like time. Motion carries. Thank you. Very well known sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate you taking a seat and running. Thank you. Yeah. Okay, item 9B. As the legislative here, I'm going to open the open application to resume from R7-5 meetings, VISTA residential and RE6. I didn't see your residential. The OASIC office department, various parts of the land, along the Grinchburg Street, the obstreet corridor, the plain and personal, the East Press on the East Coast. Thank you, Mayor. Prior to beginning my report, I do wish to certify that the required public notice for this hearing has been made to joining property owners as well as published in the career tribute. This is an application filed by the city staff to rezone various properties along the Greensboro South Cork Street corridor, specifically looking at properties currently zoned, R7.5, and as well as undeveloped RASix properties. And we propose to move those properties into the OA- office and apartment zoning district. If you look at all the parcels involved in this request, there are a total of 50, we have just over 15 acres in land size that are a part of this request. Looking at the existing land use for the subject parcels, that is they are residential, single-family residential primarily, with some undeveloped properties mixed in. So I wanted to start by putting up on the screen the definition and the intent of the office and apartment zoning district per the zoning ordinance and that's a district intended to produce moderate intensity office and residential development to serve adjacent residential areas and to provide a transition from residential to commercial uses. Land designated OA6 shall normally be located with access to a minor thoroughfare or higher classification street with access to local residential streets discouraged. As you can see on the screen within this proposed zoning district, residential uses include single family and some higher density residential uses provided certain conditions are met could be developed in that district as well as office and institutional uses. Some limited light commercial activities are also authorized in the OASIX district. However, heavier commercial uses such as retail, restaurants, motor vehicle sales, and repairs. Those are things that would not be permitted in the proposed office and apartment district for this corridor. in the proposed office and apartment district for this corridor. Up on the screen, we have several maps to try to identify the subject parcels. This one's a little hard to see, but towards the top of the screen, you'll see kind of a center of yellow boundaries around parcels. And so anything that you see that's outlined with that yellow boundary are subject parcels that would be affected by the proposed Change to the OA6 district and it may include just some of the parcel or may include all the parcel But if they've been identified by yellow boundary, they are a parcel that has received notice from the city that we are Have been contemplating this and that this is the night of the public hearing to discuss the matter. There's a very small area as you move towards the bottom of the map there. Actually, in fact, the police department property for the city is one that has a very small amount of R7.5 zoning that remains. So as we look at, where is that R7.5 along the corridor? That was one parcel as well. That was identified that should move into the OASIX district based on our discussions that we've had with Council over the last year or so. This is the second map that picks up from the previous one and continues down to Dorset. You'll see more of those yellow boundaries on this map. So we have, especially as you move south of South Main Street on Cox Street, you start to really pick up a good density of currently zoned R7.5 properties that would be affected with this proposed change to OAS 6. But again, those existing single-family residential uses are permitted under the proposed OAS 6 district. So there is no, no, no concern over non-conforming uses or anything of that nature. Should this request be approved? We always include the topographic map. It's, it's a lot of information on here but this is in part of the city that has access to all city services. There's nothing in terms of environmental features that we think would preclude this change in designation. I also note that much of the corridor is within the city's center city planning overlay, which is a zoning overlay, which does implement some additional design standards for development within what we refer to as the center city planning area or the central business district or the fringe of that district. So much of this property is, you know, should it develop into office institutional type uses, there are some additional standards that would come online. And again, this is the second map of that. You can see, you know, where that center city overlay is in relation to these parcels that would be affected. And lastly, the aerial map, again, is much easier to see where the impacted parcels are on this map. They're now outlined in red on this map. So we've taken several photos from the corridor. I know everyone's familiar with this, but we do. Just for the record, I'd like to get some documentation of the, with these photographs. This is a northernmost section of the corridor that we're looking at. And this is a view looking north on Greensboro Street. And then turning around, looking south, again, near the northernmost portion of this request. We're at Brewer Street here looking back north on Greedsboro Street and then north on Greedsboro Street at Burns Avenue. This is looking actually towards Fayetteville Street west on Burns. We're now standing at Cranford Street looking north and looking south on Cranford Street. So you can see some of the, you know, the residential properties along this corridor. This is looking north from Frankfurt Street. From the intersection, right? Right behind the blue street park. We're now near Wayneman with the photograph. On South Cot Street, North of Kivitt. South Cot Street, South of South Maine. Again, you now start to see the mixture, real mixture of office intermixed with those existing single family residential uses. Looking north, North of the South Cocks Street, South Maine, South Cocks Street, north of Oakdale. And now we're at the southernmost boundaries looking back north on Cork Street. And now looking south towards the Xydrive. So some of the history here, we first held a public workshop back in February of last year when we first started talking about this idea of the city taking action to proactively rezone properties within this corridor to a district that would permit both residential and office and institutional as well as residential uses. The rationale behind that was the council had seen kind of piecemeal requests over the years from property owners who had made this request and I think when we looked at the history it was almost always that those votes from council on those requests was an unanimous vote to put those properties in the OASIX district. So the rationale was why don't we go ahead and think about doing this proactively as opposed to having each individual property owner come up and have to do to do that on their own. We did talk about and we did ask property owners within the corridor to let us know if they wanted to opt out of this proposal and I'll point out one property that did in, let us know that they would like to opt out. We held a meeting at the Planning Board on February 4th to review this matter, and before that meeting that started at 7th from 6th to 7 staff made themselves available in the letters that we sent to property owners. We told property owners that we would be available to answer questions about the matter in informal setting. We did have several folks attend that informal pre-meeting session where we could talk to them one-on-one. Ultimately, at the actual planning board meeting, there was no opposition that presented to this matter and in terms of mailings We provided those mailings on Friday, January 18th, which did give the opportunity to owners to request to opt out of this if they so choose So there are two parcels. I want to point out that have been excluded based on feedback that we've received. One is actually owned by the city now. This is the site of the proposed arboretum that is under city control now. Originally we had looked at taking the entirety of this property to the OASix district, but we ultimately decided that there was no advantage necessarily to do in that. And we got some feedback that folks did not necessarily want to see that. So there's no change to zoning proposed for this parcel with the star on it. It would remain OASix as shown in the blue, which is the current zoning today, and then the eastern half of the property the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The last one is the last one. The otherwise have been included in this request. We had a request from that property owner to not proceed with the zoning to OASix, so that has been excluded from advertisement as well. If you look at land development plan recommendations, one of the reasons why these requests frequently are favorably reviewed by the council is because they are largely supported by the city's land development plan which was adopted in 2000. As you know, the history of Coch Street has seen a transition from residential to a mixture of office and residential and more and more office as time has gone on. The land development plans recommendation which is on the screen that kind of peach colored area is the Center city activity area which really advocates for a mixture of compatible type of land uses so As we've evaluated those requests over the years in light of what has been the history of the corridor Those have frequently been favorably looked upon those requests to go into the way 6 districts So looking at our land use map, largely activity center district. We do have a little bit of urban residential that's mixed in there as far as what a future land use recommendation is. But it's largely activity center focused. That's within the primary growth area of the city, so an encouragement of investment and development in that area that's compatible with existing development is encouraged. Overall we felt that there are several land development goals and policies that are supportive towards the request. Do not really feel that there were any that were negative towards the request. As we think about consistency with the city's adopted plans, the reasonableness of this request and whether it's in the public's interest, we point out that there has been transition over time from residential to a mix of residential, office and institutional uses and importantly that has occurred with really uncontested rezoning applications. The small area playing halls for mix of compatible uses, along with the preservation of residential neighborhoods, this proposed district allows both residential and lighter non-residential uses to co-exist. And this does serve and can serve as a transitional area between the higher commercial activities on Faithavill Street and the primarily single-family residential areas as you move east from the from the corridor. So for those reasons Mayor, we do recommend approval of this request. As I said, this was presented at the Planning Board in February. They concurred with both the staff's recommendation as well as the consistency statement. So the two matters before you this evening are consideration of the request obviously as well as the consistency statement presented. Thank you. Any questions Mr. Holt? Sure. Is anyone in the audience who would like to address the council regarding Mr. Poyce? Anybody? Yes sir. Come right on up. You'll need to sign the book and introduce yourself into the microphone. You need to surprise your name and just do that, right? Sure. Good evening. My name is Darrell Phillips. My I own property 507 Greensboro Street, which is one of the properties that is proposed on this proposal. I was just curious about some Has some questions about how this will affect My property as far as financially and Is there an advantage for me concerning this proposal or disadvantage? I asked you a question and we'll try to get you a good answer. Your question is will it impact your invention? Mm-hmm. question is will it impact your production? Okay. I could take a stand. Yeah. That's kind of not known, but. That's a fair question. It's something that we have received a lot from property owners within the corridor. And when we've gotten that question, we've directed them to the tax assessor's office to talk to them about their sense of the corridor and what this may do. The sense I've received from the tax department is that the corridor is largely, the tax department recognizes that there is office institution activity already within this corridor as well as residential uses. So it's hard, each property is different. Some may see approval of this request. Elevate tax is a little bit of the property value a little bit. Others may not. It's all case by case specific, but the sense that we receive from the tax department when we talk to them is that there should not be a huge deviation in value, largely because that possibility of this type of development within the quarter has already been considered by the assessor's office. If that helps. Sir, have you opted out or you have been told? I have not opted out. The intention is on the standard. And it would be like, you personally, you live in this better home, and that address. It would be as long as you want to continue to live, tire, or son, to find the residence, that's fine. And that as you find the residence, you, you, that's fine. And that's what it'll be, you know, nothing different will happen tomorrow, the next day, or whatever. And from a tax department evaluation, that they, the zoning is only one small portion of what they do to consider evaluation. How the property is being utilized is a huge portion of the evaluation. It will be living in as a single family residence. If I were seeking surprises, I would be very, very much to just speak with income, I live there and I have my rest. The other side of the way is, should you ever decide to do something new or your family or whatever with the property authority, property zone to have a new, it's better to use higher, it's better to use that, that could benefit you as I constantly new anything. If there's the intention, as you present, to use the property stuff. We hope we're accommodating the future users, we hope we're accommodating you, you know, it's a good, any subsequent use you might have, but I've popped a new thing on the front end. And if that all sounds too good to be true, it may very well be, but that was our intention. I'm gonna cut you to the top of that. In the end, as these properties become commercial and drive through the carter from one end to the other. A good unfortunate of those at work, from the very to the office of our department type. Properties, one at a time. The design structure? The rest of them. Yeah, and the property owner comes and makes application that you don't want at the time. And this is really a, has come out of that tediousness because we know the whole street, most of the street is changing. And we felt like to be ahead of the curve, go ahead and do that as Mr. Markman said, you're perfectly welcome and able to stay here in your own technology, walked in. At some point, you may have an office building beside you, probably, which might not be particularly pleasing to you, but at that point, there already is. At that point, your property probably becomes where a little bit more possibly a little bit more as a commercial property as opposed to a residential property. So that's a neighbor that goes home in five o'clock's presumably a good one. That's probably the best answer we can give you. Okay. I don't think the tax department's gonna come right in there until the property is sold and developed as commercial property. Well, it says residential, I think they'll continue to trade it as residential bank. Okay. Okay. Mr. Rachee, please. Yes, sir. Yes sir. My name is Rich. I don't know who I have in my voice this morning. It's been like this. But I have a couple of questions. Maybe I'll admit it. Will Burns Street be affected by this? From Fever Street to Green's Burst Street? Will Burns Street have any effect on this project? Is that still going to be commercial or O.A. or will be residential? The only parcel included is the church property at the intersection of rivers and greensboro. So the rest of the properties along Bern Street would be unchanged from today. Even northside and eastside of our Green's Burst Street were Bernstop going down. stop going down. Going south from Bernice Street. I'm going to show you on the screen. So the red area on the map is currently zone commercial. So all that red on the map is currently zone commercial remain unchanged. So therefore, Bernstrand-Horby check. Or red bird street. Or the other than the church. The apartment there. Okay. And do you know how many of the fames going to be affected by this? There are. There are a total of 50 parcels that are impacted. That is it. See that there's two parcels. So one property. We looked at that is counting actual parcel numbers. So there may be multiple, you know, say owned by the same. I tell them the parcel might be available. So that's correct. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone else in audience who would like to ask a question or address the council? Okay. We will move into deliberation and our is to council for their thoughts on this request. Mayor, I would approve the request that's submitted and the adopt the consistency statement as presented by state. We have a motion to approve the request and adopt the consistency statement made by Mr. Bell. Do I have a second? Second. My second, Mr. Burns. Any discussion? I will comment that there has been an all-blow work done in this study of this request and this request actually originated with the council a year or so back because it seemed like almost every month we had a rezoning one parcel here, one parcel there, only the Cochrane Park. So it originated with the request, I mean with the council to study the impact and the possibility of doing this in a proactive manner instead of a reactionary approach. So that's why we're here tonight. We have a motion and any other comments No other comments I'll call for a vote all the papers say hi old pose like son motion curious Thank you, sir, and staff. Thank you for the hard work Thank you sir and staff thank you for the hard work that was Now if there's anyone in the room here to visit for this I'll wait for the man to go on a slip-out You're welcome to stay I'm not very young Thank you for being here. OK, item 9C is a legislative hearing, which I will open. On an application to Resultant Approximately 1.77 acres of land from B2 General commercial to our 10th medium density residential. This is on the most side of Chulan Avenue. Just to know. Thank you, Mayor. I will say this is a legislative consideration for Council here for item nine C. Item nine C and item nine D are related. But the first thing that we're gonna talk about is item nine C, which is a consideration of a map of memory rezoning of a portion of the subject parcel. I will also certify to counsel that the required public notice for this matter has been mailed to adjoining property owners as well as published in the career tribune as required by law. The applicant on this request is Larry McKinsey, and we're looking at property on the north side of Sherwood Avenue. Presently has two addresses, 145 and 149 Whitley Street. This is a request to re-zone a small portion of the property that is zoned, B2 general commercial, to R10 medium density residential, which is what the balance of the subject parcel is currently zoned B2 general commercial to R10, medium density residential, which is what the balance of the subject parcel is currently zoned. So we're looking at a portion of one Randolph County parcel ID. It's about 1.8 acres out of the 7.3 acres that would be subject to this hearing of this evening that the rest of the property currently is zoned R10. So again, this request is strictly to take the commercial portion of this property and move it into the residential district as is the zoning for the other portion of the property. We have formally two single family dwellings on the subject parcel. So if you look at this map, that area outlined in blue that, uh, strange shape is the portion of the property that is presently zoned on B2 general commercial status. So that's the, it's the far, uh, kind of northern, uh, most area, uh, in northwestern area of the parcel that is involved in this request. We'll zoom in a little with the next map you can see A1 and A2 combined comprise the totality of the property. A1 is the area of commercial zoning that's up for discussion with this hearing would be moved into the R10 district if the request is approved. You can see the topographic and environmental map up on the screen. We do have city services available in this location. Looking at the aerial map, you can see how the property falls in relation to existing development and location to the interstate and Dixie Drive. A few photos for this case. This is a view from Trowwood Avenue looking into the property. This is a subject property from Sherwood Avenue. And now we're looking east and the other direction along Sherwood. And a view west. This is looking at the neighborhood on Harville Street Extension as seen from Sherwood Avenue so this neighborhood does a butt of the subject parcel. As we look at analysis related to strictly the rezoning of this property and not getting into any specifics of development. Sure would Avenue and Harville Street Extension are both city public, city maintained public streets that we consider to be local streets that don't carry a high. It's high of all human traffic as the next level. Whitley Street is a private street that's been privately maintained over the years. the private street that's been privately maintained over the years. There are two structures on the subject parts that previously were used for single family residential purposes. We do think it's important to note that all portion of the property is zone B2 and that's what we're discussing right now. There is no commercial activity existing on that commercial portion of the property. It's also important to note that the zoning ordinance generally disallows or prohibits access from commercially-zoned property through private residential property. So in fact, what we have out there would be a little bit of an issue. Should there be some plans for commercial development on this property because we would probably tell them that they can't come out through Through their own property through their own residential property because the ordinance does not permit that So that being said we look at the proposed land use map Not not surprisingly it recognizes the land development plan picks up on the existing zoning and just recommends commercial for this portion of the property. It's also within the primary growth area, being within the city limits and served by the full ray of city services. Real briefly, the district descriptions are up on the screen. In essence, B2 is a general commercial Convenient district that allows convenience and shoppers goods is intended to serve the needs of the motoring public whereas the R10 district is a moderate intensity residential district As we look at the Goals and objectives of the land development plan for guidance on this rezoning request We find that there are several in support. Technically there are two that we did feel that we needed to point out as contrary to the request, but that relate to the fact that the land development plan just calls this property to continue to be commercial because that's what it zoned. And there's a very small amount of steep slopes on the property, which the ordinance does discourage development activity to occur. I think that's mitigated by the fact that it's a very minimal amount of that slope on the property. So considering the requirement to look at your adopted plans and whether the request is reasonable in the public's interest We would submit that the art and district is consistent with the use of the property and surrounding properties with sink that which consists of single two family dwellings Commercial use cannot use residential access on its own per the zoning ordinance requirements that we'd be cleaning potential issue up there. Resoning ensures this property would only generate residential traffic on sure would not non-residential traffic. And again the steep slopes, I'm out there very small area of the area proposed for rezoning. So for those reasons, staff and the planning board present this to you with a favorable recommendation. Of course, the action as well as a consistency statement are the action items for this case. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Questions from Mr. Noe? Okay. This is a hearing and I will ask if there's anyone in the office to address the chance for me for questions. Mr. Mayor, Council, my name is Lergen McKenzie and I want to address the four facts and I'll be available for any questions. Anybody have? Right now, just a little bit. Okay, yes. Okay. That's the next. That's the next. That's the next. That's the next. Okay. If anyone wants to like to address the council, regarding this request, there might be a time. And I'll say, again again we're looking just a small portion of the resume properly there'll be more details that are presented with with the next item. Here we will move into the deliberation and ask council for their thoughts. Mayor, I move we approve the request to resound the big two, the R10 and based on the staff's recommendation and the consistency statement. We adopt that as part of that request. Thank you, Mr. General. We have a motion to approve the request and adopt the consistency statement. I'm going to continue to see the statement approved that. Do I have a second? Second. Second. Mr. Berks. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed by Senator Motion carries. All in favor say aye. I will pose like sign. Motion carries. Now the clause out of due additional here in which I will open. Indeed, there's an application for special use permit on this case of the property. Thank you, Mayor. So this request is as quasi-judicial as such all persons wishing to provide testimony to cancel must be placed under oath prior to doing so that would be inappropriate time for anyone who believes they wish to speak to be placed under oath. and go to this one and the security. Oh, ma'am. You have found that the adventures of campus should be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do. And again, ma'am, for folks in the audience who may, after we go through this presentation, they have questions or comments they will have the ability to take the oath and ask those. Will it allow this for you to have your presentation if you hear something that concerns you? And let me also certify to Council that the required notice for this matter has been sent to the Joining Property property owners as well as published in the career tribute news page So this is a combined special use permit and subdivision sketch review for proposed residential unit development that would sit on the parcel that we've just had the rezoning approved for this is that we've just had the rezoning approved for. This is, again, two addresses, technically addressed on Whitley Street. Now we're looking at the entirety of the property, 7.34 acres. There's one parcel number identified. We have a total of 29 residential lots, slash units that are proposed for the property as well as common area that would be maintained by an owner's association. The average lot size, these are townhouse type of lot size or patio home lots of the average lot sizes just over 3,000 square feet. Before I move on, I'm going to distribute the site plans that go along with the this request. So up on the screen is just a small portion of the plan that is represented on that package of Civil plans that have distributed, but in essence the image up on the screen shows the proposed development The ball or the cul-de-sac up towards the top of the map and this map is oriented north to south so the ball at the top would be towards Dixie Drive. You can see the majority of the lots, the homes that are proposed, either are the center of the property or center west of the property. The proposal is to construct Whitley Street as a public city-maintained street. The other streets that come off of Whitley Street as a public city-maintain street. The other streets that come off of Whitley Street would be private streets that would be privately maintained by an owner's association. We have reviewed this plan in terms of provision of city services, including general idea of water and sewer, provision, solid waste, disposal, emergency access. And so this plan that's before you hear this evening has been revised to comply with in general terms with the city's zoning ordinance. There are a few and when I get to the conditions there are a few additional details that we would need prior to formally approving the site plan but in essence the site the site plan is in general conformity with the cities zoning ordinance. You can see along the front edge of Sherwood which is that just at the bottom of the map there and there's little circles just above that represent some street landscaping that would be installed as far as the static improvements to the property along Sherwood. This is a type of development that does require sidewalks to connect all the residential units So those are provided as required by the city code. There is an area of a dumpster that's provided off that public cul-de-sac towards the top of your screen. It just comes off and shoots to the northwest. Would be the area of solid waste disposal that's been reviewed by the city and is acceptable location. So that's in essence what the city and is acceptable location. So that's in essence what you're looking at with this plan. And again, a total of 29 units on the property. Again, so we're looking at what the organist defines as a residential plan unit development. That is the type of project that does require review of a special use permit and issuance of a special use permit by council. This is a again a mix of detached patio style homes and attached twin homes with two two dwellings in each structure. As I said we're looking at a combination of city maintained and privately maintained streets Whitley Street which would be the city main street as contains about 640 linear feet that ultimately the city would assume maintenance on after sufficient construction of the public street the other private streets total about a thousand linear fee for that portion. There is recreation area as required by these zoning ordinance. A recreational amenity is a part of these type of developments that has to be provided as part of these developments and so that requirement in general terms is shown on and where that would go. And typically I'll say, you know, when we get new residential development, we like to find ways to interconnect neighborhoods to improve the street network and the ordinance in fact requires that in certain cases. this is a case where the adjacent residential properties are developed, which really in essence eliminates a requirement for that interconnected interconnectivity between developments. As we look at specifically the details on the sketch design, I'll talk about the site plan that's been through our process. We feel that with some additional information that's certainly approvable. In terms of the subdivision, all of those corrections have been made that pertain to the subdivision portion of this property and this process. We do always point out that we'll need to see homeowners' documents to this permit-be-issue this evening and the project move forward and that's to ensure that There's maintenance mechanisms for common area and RV parking restrictions and things of that nature We've also shared the plan with both the DOT as well as the city schools in terms of any impacts and neither had comments That they wish to submit. So you've seen this map before but now we're not talking about that red area which you need to picture is yellow. So it's not been put in the R10 district but the entirety of the properties outlined in blue up on the screen. We'll zoom in a little closer again. Now we're looking at all R10 property. It's letter A up on your map. Again, location of city services on this map, similar to the aerial map. Again, a different sheet but the nest and the same information. Building elevations are a part of this, so they have been provided and give you a general idea of the look and feel style of these proposed units. I'll let the applicant speak more to those details, but again, these are single story. I had most twin homes with a few single family undetached or detached structures. So I mentioned some suggested conditions just to ensure the project complies with the city's development codes and they are in summary up on the screen. They're in greater detail in your reports. But we do point out that the city does not handle the erosion control permitting that needs to be submitted and handled through the state. So we point that out. There is an idea of fire hydrant locations at this point, but we do want to ensure that greater discussion details are hammered out with the fire chief at the appropriate time. So we'll look for that. Should this project move forward into an engineering phase? As restrictive covenants that are stipulated by those owners association documents will need to be approved prior to any final approved prior to any final plat recording, pointing out the clearly that maintenance of road infrastructure is maintained by the homeowners association unless otherwise noted as public. There is a discussion of how postal and the service will be provided on the plan. And in essence, what condition E does, it says this ultimately that's a decision of the post office and if they change how they would like to deliver mail to this property and that let's say that leads to a structure central structure for mail being constructed that that does not have to then come back to council for re-review so we did put that in there are some additional details some lighting details details, some additional details to be shown on the site plan which are articulated in your report. Lastly, will be necessary should the council hear sufficient evidence to grant the permit this evening there would be a requirement to execute the standard Memorandum of Landies restriction for the project. Up on the screen are the four findings that you saw with the prior case. I'll be happy to answer any questions. If not, I'll turn it over to the applicant, Mr. Mayor and Council, my name is Larry McKenzie and I'll address the four facts and I'll be happy to answer any questions afterwards. The construction of townhomes on this property will not create any health or safety issues to the surrounding area. Our past developments prove we maintain good drainage restraints and clean site throughout construction. We will carefully follow the plans provided by some of the engineers so no safety issues will occur. The Town Home Development will meet all conditions and specifications of the city's zone and ordinance. Before construction begins, we review all requests made by the city planning department and follow the plan provided. By standing in touch with city officials while construction occurs, all required items will be met. This will be my fifth town home development and in previous four, we have made great neighbors to existing property owners. We build a quality product and strive to uplift the neighborhood. The value of homes in the area have gone up after our project begins and in several cases, close by neighbors have sold and moved into our project. Town homes have become a way of life for people, mides and older because maintaining a home can be impossible. Our track record shows the finished product will be in harmony with the neighborhood. The project will be fenced or buffered by trees on three sides. The difficulty to enter and exit this property from Highway 64 makes it impossible to develop commercially. Therefore, town homes are the best used for this property. And I'll answer any questions anyone may have. Thank you, Chair. Do we have any questions? Anybody? Thank you, Chair. Before you sit down, I have the audience ever likes to address the council, we're starting to share questions. Thanks. You may just step over there and at least one. Please. You believe? Thanks. You're welcome. And I'm Mr. Schaden. And I'm also be the chairman of the whole committee. I'm not the chairman. Thanks. Okay. Introduction to the microphone. I'm Chris Blake. I live at 248 Horrell Street. And I'm Sherona Warnow. I also live at 248 Harville Street Extension. I just want to know how this will affect my property called Everett Down the Inn. I want to know how this will affect my property call Everett Down the very Inn. I moved there because it's only in the street and I didn't have nothing behind me. Now I am. So I wanna. I'm gonna put the map of home. Okay. I'm sure it's your property, but right there at C. C, that's okay. But you're gonna be the closest thing. Yep. Yes sir. And we were also curious as to would there be a property right there at the side or is it going to be a parking lot or? Could you say this point? I'm not talking about it. I'm not talking about it. No, I say keep your chair open. Oh, absolutely. Can you locate there a house and show them what there's them in the floor. No, I say keeping chairs. Oh, absolutely. Can you locate their house and show them what their site is? Right, they're right. And that's pretty all other than areas. You know, while the bench is on for other years, I think it's quite difficult. Because that is a slope area. Press on the horizon range area there. All right. So the right behind your house is kind of the the drainage and the slope there and side point shows that there's nothing direct to it behind your house And it's like you go room on so does it turn to about a hundred feet? Yeah, so these are where So these are where you see the individuals. And so all this is the cards that remain as it is today. And it's hard to find the cards. No, we're not sure any development for the four streets units in the industry. And this is the right way. The right way to come to the end of the access unit. So the closest to the three of view is that this is driving the world from the same month. The slide plan is a document that they present to the council they can make significant changes to that without coming back here. So I mean it shows your land. Once it's recorded, that's what has to be worked. It shows the location of the structures, the land screen, the whole of it, and the whole of it. Documenting things. That's what they have. I'm sorry. I was saying, you know of that sort a little bit. There's no. Yeah. Hi. You really want to know what's written down in the room? Ron, that's all that's to remind me of. Are you on the line? If you don't know, you just don't know. That's like those come out. That's the first time I'm doing this. So, where are you guys? Actually, I asked what every question you mean to ask for their questions. You need to ask them. I know a restaurant can't do anything around them to be happy. Satisfied. I have to have everything in front of me. What he said about it, it didn't fit in. It's just a quality product. You won't get mad. Well, you know, you're the man that will show good neckers here. I said, I'm not going to get your name spelled correctly in the minutes. If you'll just throw it through your printer name. I'm not sure. I think he's the only one. They probably don't do that. They're only following me. They probably don't see me. So you have any other words? No, sir. I'll ask them out of here. Not unless you've got some questions. No? Thank you. I feel like I'm walking down here. You just come to see me on time. What application? Anyone else in the audience? There's really nobody. No audience. You need to speak to us about this. No mayor, I am here because I am at Wake Forest. They get my master's program. I'm taking public law. And I have to take this and then go home and write in ASS. I'm just with law and I have to take this and then go home and write it as a I'm just with the same pictures and taking notes. Well when I leave I mean I'm going to have more public. Quite frankly this is a lot of serious business that the council will probably be telling just to give me a few. I mean if you had a right report you don't need to say it until 10, 10, 30 or so. 10 o'clock. I mean if you got a right report you don't need to say until 10, 30 or so. So I'm going to try to make a decision. I'm going to try to make this decision. All right, no one else to speak to the council. We move into deliberation and I'll ask the council what their thoughts on this request. Mayor having met the whole floor, the staff has moved that we have approved these special instruments. We have a motion to approve the request. Mr. Mayor, that was my fault. I neglected to put the action on the screen. If we could get a motion on the sketch design as well. We need motion to approve the sketch design. Mayor, I think before we do that, just important clarification. I think we need to include subject to the conditions that were proposed by staff that were acceptable to the applicant. The motion to the presentation. That's the final clarification. The final clarification of the motion. The motion only issue B is filed with the clarification. All right. Do I have a motion to approve the section design? I move. I move motion by motion. I move the motion to the second. The second Mr. Mockett, the second. Second. And that is with the staff comments in the conditions. Second. Mr. Swerves and motion, they include the staff comments. Any discussion on the paper, say aye. All public by chance. Motion carries. Thank you. Now we go to find he I'll open the public hearing of the unit to develop the block grant funds. They're hearing to assess the closed out performance for foresight. Thank you Mayor. As you said, this is to assess the performance of the grant funds received to construct just under 1400 linear feet of industrial railroad spur track that provides rail access to the newer tech techno-marked facility on West Central Avenue. This is, I believe the mayor said, grant 14-E-2673. This is the advertised time to receive public comments on the performance of this grant. You probably remember it's been a little while but we received this grant in 2016 with assistance from the EDC. And the purpose of the funds was to assist with construction of this rail spur for Technomarik's facility at the time, which was being contemplated. But this was an important part of the company's decision to locate their new facility because they had a desire for rail access as a part of their operations. The grant totaled $490,000, and it was awarded. This is a CDBG community development block grant for economic development purposes. And so it was awarded contingent on the company creating at least 41 new full time jobs and because of the program requirements, 25 or 60% of those jobs were required to go to individuals from low to moderate income households. The rail spur was completed last year at a cost of just under $540,000. So the grant funds on this project provided 91% of the total project cost. This is one of those cases where we can report, while the cost was more than the grant, the actual cost for the project came in $76,000 below the original contract amounts that we were happy to find that. We have confirmed through documentation from Technomork that the employment conditions of the grant have been satisfied. We also had a close-out monitoring visit with Department of Commerce staff in February where to my knowledge there were no deficiencies related to our administration of these funds that they identified and directed at us. So we believe everything is an appropriate place for this time, for this hearing. I will say following the public comment periods, if there are any public comments, our recommendation would be to essentially move to accept this report as presented. Thank you. Does anyone know how to address the Council regarding this item of business and the director there's over one person left in office. You do say that. So we have no comment, no public comment. May you turn to council or regardless, I will entertain a motion to accept this report as it was presented. Where I move we accept this report as presented. I have a motion by Mr. Burk's to accept, do I have a second? Second. Burts to accept. Do I have a second? Second. Second. Mr. Raeville. Any discussion? All the favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. I am not here. Consideration of erosion and requesting the removal of the City of Ashboro from the standard under North Carolina General Staffs. You've won 68-58. the resolution requesting the removal of the City of Ashboro from the standard on their North Carolina General Staffs of 168-58.1B that restrict satellite annexations to no more than 10% of the city's primary corporate limits. Very briefly, Mayor. As you know, the State Law does cap the area that many cities, including Ashboroboro may annex into the city limits through what is known as satellite or non-contiguous annexation Through that through that process This cap can make it difficult for the city to honor what our voluntary and I want to emphasize these are voluntary petitions that would that would come in under this process From property owners that are seeking to bring their property into the city limits. So the resolution before you would show city support for a bill introduced, I believe by representatives, McNeill and Hurley, that would remove this cap on satellite annexations for the city of Ashbro. Our recommendation would be to adopt this resolution by reference. Great. Questions or motion? No. This is a good question. Oh, OK. I'll entertain the motion to adopt this by reference. Oh, my motion to adopt this by reference. We have a motion, but it's do I have a second motion. the community within the state, certainly not our national. The smallest carpeas as large as... All right, all in favor say aye. I'll vote. Motion carries. Thank you Mr. No, your job is nice. I am TAN, Mr. Letter, City Engineer. If you have a petition from Mr. Rodney High and Mr. Rolville, So this item was presented February 8th of 2019. It has been a resolution was properly advertised. You've now opened the public hearing. We have an annexation ordinance prepared by the city attorney making the annexation effective upon adoption. And we recommend adoption by reference. Does anyone know any of you should like to address the council that is public hearing? Hearing none, I will ask the council to resolve fine, adopting the ordinance for reference. There, I'm going to adopt the ordinance to extend the city limits by answering the parcel by reference. I have a motion by Mr. Bell, I'm Mr. Bill, I have a second. Second, Mr. Swayers, all the better say aye. I will post a lot of time. Postion carries, thank you. This is a point of time for a public hearing. Public commentry. Is there anyone out here to like your guest and campus tonight for any, I don't know, city business. Do you have anything you'd like to talk to the council about? No, it's my studies I've had to look at our ordinances, and we have a quiet zone ordinance. And if you're in that quiet zone, you can't look more, you can't have a loud car, you can't be loud. Our mystery is why we have that, and if we do, where are we? We have a sound ordinance. It's a quiet zone, it's what it says in our ordinance listed online. It's called white zone. It's quite frankly, I'm not familiar with it for the railroad. They can't load it on certain times in certain neighborhoods. That's what I want to say. And I'm going to say, since our staff turned Mr. Sunk has come on board. We've cleaned up a lot of stuff. There are probably a lot of ordinances out there that will raise your eyebrows and say, I'm making curious and the other one was, we allow exotic snakes and I have some of those. You're the only one. There we go. We try to get the state years ago. Some people try to get the state years ago. Some people try to get the state to regulate the state's own snake. The snake lobby is strong and powerful. Okay. There was a missile in the quad. I had to sit. An update and a request of the building board approval for a term, an activity for the new recreation center. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Informal bids for the advertised where advertising received for on March 4th this past Monday 2019 by 2 p.m. 3 bids were received from floor action ink, Royal Wood Associates Inc. and the Sports Floor Group. Floor Action Inc. and Royal Wood Associates Inc. did not include the specified half- inch of R-dex leveller topping and therefore were considered non-responsive. Sports Foreign Group was the only responsive bidder with a low bid of $165,782. Staff recommends approval of the low bid submitted for this gymnasium floor replacement. No, I think they just both missed it. Yeah, because when I spoke with, well, they got there just, yeah, just in time. And with theission, if, yeah, I've got the bids here with the omission, I believe it was, they still, sports form would have still been the lowest bid if you take that out in consideration. So we have a recommendation to approve the low bid here. The responses to the response to the bid. I have a motion to announce. Okay. Some moves. I want to move Mr. Moffitt. Second. Second. Okay, Mr. Burke's discussion. I want to further say how? All right. We'll post. I'll impose that. All right. We'll post. Those are some queries. The CIS is done in request for award contract. Let's just send it to CIS. Yes sir. This is for 10,000 square feet and it's from various locations throughout the gymnasium. Informal bids were advertised and received on February 12th, 2019. Two beds were received, one from LA Acoustical and Drywall, and one from Randolph Acoustical and Drywall. The low bed was for $44,406 from LA Acoustical and Drywall and Staff Reckerman's approval of the submitted questions. and later pushed the control on. So who's the most important Mr. Mocka? Second? Second. Second Mr. Brooks. All favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Wish a timeline for the interview. Are we getting close to meeting Mr. Mocka? Yes. They're going to have to do a little more to get the moisture levels down as far as running the air conditioning HVAC to get, I believe it is. I believe it is. Yeah, I think it's got some other issues. They had to replace one of the calls. It looked like a forklift and maybe gone through it before it was delivered. And we went back through and someone had noticed it and they replaced the old call. Josh and the controls, I believe so. So where before we move on to item 13, I have 12C, Miss Reaves has put in your packet of consideration of budget ordinance amendments to support the contract just for worry and we will request for further round of the briefings. Question? All right. I'll entertain the motion to approve the budget amendments by reference. I'll make a motion to approve these budget amendments by reference. I have a second. Second. Second Mr. Swerves. Questions coming? All third say aye. Aye. All opposed. Very motion carries. Thank you. And Mr. Leonard, I am 13, resolution approving the execution of the letter of agreement for airport safety maintenance projects. Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, we have in your, are you having your packets a letter of agreement for airport safety and maintenance projects between City of Ashbro and the NC Division of Aviation. Execution of this document is a requirement from the NCDOA in order to access their maintenance program and staff recommends adoption by reference. Any questions of Mr. Ritter? I don't seem to have a copy of that. Do you have the hold the coffee? No, I don't have a copy of that. Is that not enough? That's the airport of our... That's not what you said. Oh, I may have been emailed out. That's all I can read. What school for? Team. No, sir. It's pretty much the same thing we've been doing over the years. It's just a renewal of that contract. That's right. Okay, I'll do I have a second discussion Okay As for your thoughts on the very same half Okay, I have a fourth thing. Thank you Mr. Mayor. I have a resolution that's supportive of the current alcohol beverage control system and opposing the murder of all the ABC people in the county. That's the same. There's a move I put in it to centralize ABC control in each county, emerging all ABC boards under one authority in each county, to the country counties that have ABC boards. We don't see that as a good thing for Esprout. We would end up merging our operation with Liberty Ramsoor Rammelham. And where else happens to have, there we see, there we see, there we ran Rammelham with the Ramsoor Gramps. and I think I local ABC board fails the same way. And I think it's important to note that when we set up our ABC board, we had a retired superior court judge, a CPA, and a Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Judge Advocate, And I don't think you get much better than that. There was no good-over or cronyism involved in employment, or in that board has been held up as a model board. And I would hate to see us merge with something that would not give us the security and the support that I feel we get from that board. So if someone will make a motion that we oppose this, that we adopt this resolution and support of the current ABC control system, ABC system, and opposing the merger of all the ABC boards within the county. May I have a motion? May I move you to Dr. Resolution by reference? And I think there's a way to go. I have a second. Second? Second. Okay. Don't miss Ray and any discussion? I see what the move is. I mean, there are certain counties that have an even more to reach. I think there's one county that may have seven things that we want. And there are ways among some of those folks. I don't think that we have that here. I think it would be this wonderful to structure the municipality to do anything different. We're seeking to do this right. What were the seeking to do by this fact? We were just just a couple of months. I agree with that. And that's the number from Mountain Staking. There's been a few more evidence. Okay, so it's right around the tone of 100 people or sub-systems, you know, which is longer and it's just the way like a system, an idea, an idea by whoever to get out of having to address the problems, the problems systems, and put a one-size-fits-all, make it now an army problem, whatever we don't have one. So this is just a bad idea. Okay. In this other discussion, all the favourites say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Item B, 14 B, is a request to expand our alcoholic beverage options for the Ashbur region of airport and the Sunset Theater. John, you want to break when you want me to? Start off there. Basically, the airport and this is for the museum only. The museum has been for 34 years now, having their World War Two Hanger dance. People buy tickets and come out there and dance to big band sounds and have dinner. And they each year go to the state in the plight for a college beverage. Same old band permanent to be able to sell. Well that's money out of their pocket to make that application and it's a recurring thing and we believe that and they really have asked us to see if we could streamline the form. So we believe that just adopting a policy that will allow them to serve their baby juice at their dance in the music of Hanger Proper. I don't know if any other airport property, going to come up. Town Mall or the New Town Mall or Reshary, anything to talk about. That would be a... in the hangar. And Mayor of that, the city leases... That's Hanger Space 2, the museum of the Pride Michael. Yes. So, the airport was hinted to us under that the Council's control to lease in our property, that's why council's control to release it on our property, as well as before the council. It's not like it's a private business on their own land. Any questions? Any concerns? I have concerns. The way it's, you know, the way it's gotten written up here is just like the whole airport, so something came up. And it, you know, it doesn't stay for just the museum that stays for the whole airport so something came up. And it doesn't stay for just the museum that stays for the whole airport. Then I think it could go to the whole airport. So like the last year of the year. And the front of it, can you come back next month with a specific resolution to adopt that allows them to accommodate their date. That is in fact specifically the request is to get guidance from the board of how you want the ordinance. It's going to take an ordinance because there are prohibitions in the city code so it can be car exceptions, can be car val. I'm going to draft an ordinance based on what the board tells me to do. And I was going to ask while you're having this discussion, I'm gathered, you're limited to the hangar for the aviation museum. I also was going to ask, typically when we put it in the exemption end, we give it to someone who exercises authority or supervision over a property to give them control as far as administrative approval, for example. And to create parks is the copperheads, to some of the theater's recreation services you'll be getting to that, that this one would be fitting to say that the airport authority, they simply have to sign off that they're okay with it occurring, it doesn't come back to the city council, but the airport authority would sign off and it's limited to the museum. I see your guidance now, right to you, right? Yes. I think that's probably the best. Mike, why are you here about that? I would know. I'll consideration. The, I heard the very narrow outline, the city outline, that they were presented. And, you know, really we're dealing with a temp, I don't know why I would want to just restrict it for just one dance per se as opposed to a Swatley-Bowler language of a specially-man fundraiser You know, not sure yet. I've been pop-pop standing with you know We're not right back into this same conversation It depends on Christmas party. I mean, you know, uh, What's your name? That we have. That there's no. Right. I think that we're talking about. But Mr. Suggs makes me a visit. You limited to the space of the museum. And then what they did there, he meant for me, that's approved through the airport and the authority if there's an issue the authority can come to say my claim. The language we typically use and up here again I'll do whatever I'm happy to whatever I'm instructed to do but our typical language is a sale slash distribution plan has to be approved by somebody in In this case, it'd be by the airport authority. The museum could present it to them and they approved. And it goes through that way. That's just one way the parkons have been done. I don't know, I don't think there's a problem with that. Just saying this is just, to go to this particular, it's just indecisively narrow. So the only prescription being a, you know, an organization of a fine reputation in the Mary specific purpose, it's not like, they're gonna move out tomorrow first, I am gonna have, you know, a nightclub for summer night. This is the nonconignation museum, that's what it will be. And we will control these subsequent tenants. Yes, that they know. So it would run with the tenants in all of the property. Correct. Okay. So the airport authority exercised in control over the music. I would answer that question and maybe my misunderstanding. No, they do not exercise control over the museum's operations. Where the airport authority comes in though is under our city charter, the airport is set up for the authority to actually have operational control of the premises out there. And so in this particular case, the ordinance would be saying that these sorts of events are permitted, our public beverages are permitted on these city owned premises, so long as it's restricted to this area, at least to this specific area, I'm currently at least to this tenant and the airport authority signs off as far as having control of the premises. Not operational control. I think our seats are whatever they might get to the nonprofit organization. Normally we don't get that involved in the- What we have out here on the ascertaining board. That's only if that has come up in the context of making sure the city is not the one actually needing to get the permit as running the event. That was more for city operational purposes than anything else that's all it was leased to you. Here again, if you want me to limit it to this particular tenant, that takes care of happens to do any evaluation about not about the status of one person, I mean why are we doing that? So. But there being more than what we're saying, what we're saying to, the earlier was that it just, we would restrict it to that, just that dance. Unfortunately, we're saying it wouldn't be restricted. But the benefactor remains the sign. And I will, I'll just state what I'm not advocating. Excuse me, I'm not advocating. I'll just state what I'm not advocating. I'm not advocating. I'll just state how I'm fearing at this point. I'm standing to be corrected. At this point, if I was told to proceed with drafting an ordinance, the ordinance would simply state that with all the prohibitions, there is an exception at the Ashwood Regional Airport for the Hanger area, lease two, the Aviation Museum, subject to approval by the airport authority for any sale or distribution plan for the ABC process. That way, they don't have to get into looking at it and not profit or not. They notice the Aviation Museum at their Hanger. They're simply looking to make sure, from the airport authorities perspective that the sale distribution plan doesn't have any spillover effect over to other principals. I think that's good. You bring your last KFD drafts to this reference. Resolution to consider at the next meeting and in the meantime, you think about it. If you have concerns. Yes, we don't have it. Exactly. I just want this to just see if you can get this right. And to making sure that I'm out on my getting out on my own own to take care of voting issues. If I could, it would probably be best to vote, to direct me, to prepare it. And then the vote is simply not on the language, but for me to draft a proposal based on this conversation. Okay. I'll entertain a motion to direct staff term Jeff Sog to draft a proposal to consider the next meeting that will address allowing the museum to serve alcohol fairies with the approval and special events with the approval of the airport authority. So move back motion Mr. Moplet, do I have a second, second Mr. Bale? Any discussion? On the paper say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. All right. And moving on to the sunset theater. It's a similar situation when we started our project at the sunset theater. We envisioned some of this invasion over the years that we would eventually get to where with some of our upper hand events that they sort of wider than the intermission. We changed what is the order to say now, Jeff? The way to set up, there is the general prohibition of alcoholic beverages on city property. There is an exception since it's being one of them, so long as that the sale or distribution is conducted in accordance with approvals on the rental form signed off on by the recreation services director. And also in the recreation services director is directed and he does not have unlimited discretion is directed by the manual for the co-from recreation Recreation Services, which is part of the code, that manual currently allows the director to approve consumption and possession at events where the beater has been leased. It's specifically prohibits allowing the sale of alcoholic beverages until there's a change in the manual, which is why an ordinance would be required to allow that There has to be permission granted for that sale to occur The regs have never allowed the sale of alcoholic beverages because the city does not currently have a permit The city would need to become a permit holder in that case to allow the sale sale, the difference being some entities, when they lease out property, they give up enough control, whereas legitimately that entity, if you lease it, you use going in and run into place, run into business, they get to permit from a, from ABC commission. Ashbury retains such tight control over the sunset theater. It would require the city becoming more involved directly before the sale could happen we'd have to be a permit over that helps and explaining. And on the end of the day I'm not frustrating for a permit homework. But the city I think there's a lot of liability involved in all of that. It's like people are like this while we're talking about it. That's the policy. Yes. Other comments? This request is, if we can make somewhat with the round of lead, the jazz concert, the people that are using the fair, some of which co-sponsored, we are co-sponsored for co-producers, we as a city. If someone raises the fair, they're allowed to serve. If you wanna have a wedding reception, just for example, if you wanna have a wedding reception and you wanna distribute, have available, unfortified wine, malt beverage, that's fine. Just make sure you get the ball of the procedures with the recreation services director. It's not an opening event. Correct. That's not going to be an end. But the rest of the call we're talking about the RIMO and the other things would be an opening event. And then who would be saling it or distributing it? What is their age factor in their? There is heavily regulated industry. The city would develop the rules as far as how the recreation services director would go about that such as, at this point for instance, contracting outings providers can be the service provider subject to obviously city supervision with its light as permit and that would control making sure there's training that there's not service going on under age individuals or there's not continued service to someone who's already impaired. That all be part of the operational plan that if it is helpful to vote most likely we would take tonight, would be to direct me to draft an ordinance amending the manual, authorizing the recreation services director to adjust the manual and develop the operational plan to obtain the permit and prove individuals who want to sell through the contract with the city. And that's where the city would get into evaluating retainers' fault and that sort of percentage. So that would be such a situation and most likely be a percentage. I think the general situation that you're going to encounter is that they're not into the beverage service business. They would want to use somebody else to do it. If that other business, even if they had a permit that their own premises wanted to do if they still could not come into the sunset theater, there's the whole issue as you've got to have. If you're going to serve and have a consumed on premise, you've got to have an on premise permit. The city is still in control of those premises and that's why we have to be the city itself as a permit over. Well I would admit that you then would direct you to draft the ordinance and discuss where I would actually want to do it. I would make motion to correct you have to draft the ordinance to allow for the city to be a permit holder to allow for the sale of the alcoholic beverages in the direction of the recreational services. directly staff turned to draft a resolution or no. Or an ordinance for consideration at the next meeting regarding this sunset theater discussion. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Swearer. Further discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Aye. We have the regular show. We have one dissenting vote anymore. Okay. All right. Motion carries with one distinction. Okay, upcoming events. You got one on your screen there. Friday the 15th, the sunset signature series, Jim A. Van, with a performing on Friday night and Saturday. The human race, what time of human race start nine? Yeah, I think that's right. You know Major, you know. Yeah, not like that. Saturday the 16th is the human race, which is a fun race. Saturday the 16th and the same Patrick's Day celebration that I said 10th of the park, and St. Patrick's Day celebration in Washington, California, starting around lunchtime with food trucks and then going into the afternoon with payments. Tuesday, 19th is the pancake day, Friday the 22nd is the Grand Open. 8 a.m. at 5 o'clock, they've been serving breakfast and and they'll have a ribbon cutting about nine. So, they'll provide 10. And then, a fairly small one, I've been told, fairly small, the event. But it's going to be exciting to see this. I know they've really built a building up there. But it's going to be exciting to see this. I really built a building up there. There's a four-year university counseling. Two-year-to-seven is housing authority meal and public works training room. And that's married. How many authority members were there in Christmas? They got all up in the end. So we're going to reverse the hosting. Okay. My 9th visit, another round of your council meeting, 16th and 17th visit. League meeting in Hickory, which is rescheduled from the last year during the hurricane and Tuesday the 21st is budget meeting 630 here in this room? Yes. We'll have here we'll have what I was saying to all of you. All right. Um, Me too, we have these lines. You got to, some say it's in the church here. You know, it's not our code. It's going to take a hellsweep. Five of the tanks. Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, Me, I would send you that to the first two, the first third. We're on the other side. I got it at the second. No, I'll be the second. May the second. Second would be the first third. We have a guy in the station. May the second. Usually that's the second. I put it on my camera from the left. And now it's going to be perfect. The second, well, as soon as I got there on the mall. And here's the same week. We had a little snappoo in the program this year. We just booked this week. The speaker, maybe with acres who was drafted straight out of college to be a place kicker for the 49ers or somebody in English or whatever. The first professional game, Mr. Freefield goals at next point and was keen to move next day. Welcome to the big leagues. He persevered. He played for the 49ers and the Eagles. He's had a successful career. The end of the league is scoring the time. Whatever. But during that time, secure dollar was just over to have Ovarian cancer. And so he has a very strong message, very strong faith and will be a fantastic public speaker. We got him through the same group, same speaker, Bureau that gave us the employee from Boston there last year, two years ago. The program will be really good. You know, the tickets will have to be and just like John, or Tim, or none if you can't make it. We'll have to put a little of the change. It's a hard take it to get. Thank you for asking about that. I just kind of forgot that. All right, let's start down here with Ms. Raid. I appreciate the opportunity to represent City of Ashboro at the Advanced Leadership Board that took about three weeks to get spent Sunday through Friday in Chapel Hill. Learning how to be a better leader. And part of that, I realized that while I know all of you for decades, y'all may not name me quite as well as I thought based upon some of the things. So it would be my anticipation every the next couple of months to maybe try to set up one-on-ones with all of you. So when I call, it's nothing, nothing her shattering. I just would like to make sure that I'm doing the best I can do to represent the city and and to help y'all and work with y'all as best I can. Thank you. We're not saying we feel like the survey wrong. Are you saying that? I'm not right. My mind got open and never never heard of. I've been able to now submitted it. And for the next three weeks, it's been me, and you might have seen it. If you haven't finished your survey, you know. Even if you take people to participate. Stop it, Katie. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing, all right? Not tonight. Oh, Mr. Burr. I'm pretty happy. I did have, I guess, since that last meal, had opportunity to interact with some of our police forces. And I was very pleased with the professionalism. That's why I didn't, I told that fellow, you know, if you're going to get good neighbors or not, but we'll just leave it in that. But then the police force, top and off, the young officer, they sent over to talk to me out in the very police department. Good man. Mr. Muffin. Come join the business meeting tonight. I would like to somehow get a resolution for spring to get on here. If it gets me dry, at least we warm. Back to a normal rainbows. Something. Something. May I ask you a question? I want to react to the interview. I said about the mayor's prayer records. Thank you. I was in my mom's feature and I was going to get you. My mind is that the NFL players association say, NFL stands for knock for long. And NFL coaches association says NFL stands for not for losers so it is a it is a one and done it's a hard business and talk about that that time. What's Carter? I talked with John the other day about when the rains are sides and you can't see the roads. There's a lot of trash up the down, the roads and the life and they were hidden and things like that. But especially on 73, 74, between 64 and 49, 42. And I had just called the family, a thread that I had called along the forward. The first time I called them within a week, they had come and cleaned that whole road out of the mess up. Well, it's back again. And so, what they do, call the care. Yes, they have a contract. Oh, thank you. do call the county yes they have a contract I call the right on the they have a contract well they think it was clean that first time I was clean so I'll say next week but and I didn't have the number but I thought it might be an idea. I mean, sitting below that sits or coming up on our version. We call it a little more straight. Of the directions, it's a little more correct. Corrections, no. They don't do anything to let them sit around. So, you see, you know, okay. You're on the same page. I'm on the way down there. I'm on You see, Jen. You know, okay. You're showing me the same. I'm on the way down there. I'm walking around. Okay. Yes. I talked to Nate for an hour or less. I don't know. She's doing really good. She does have to use a wheelchair most of the time. She can walk around to the down and room with her walker. It's really not good on taking her out unless you've got the able that she can get her in another release. But she was doing really, really well. I mean her memory was really good. She has worked in that environment down there. I've observed that we really have. And Ray, the guy from the North Carolina Department of Transportation, B&B had come down and given him a driver's test and asked him to go to the office for all the places that you normally got to drive. So he did and he passed. So he will be driving a little truck. Watch out for that little truck. Yeah, I thought I should. Who would say yeah, that goes. But, um, that's good. I'm not going to buy our kids. Yeah, she would call it. She might go visit now. But I thought that was really good. That is so good. And she would love everybody. That is so good. Oh, okay. And she would love for you, I can say that. Mr. Braille. Two things. One is, you know, as we talked about, responsibly Mr. Services. That two attachions to call both of the worst ones when I went over to the Fund Bank on Range Works Street, where I rooted on under, created a Fund Bank as you come in, like Pritchett's Creek to it's all very personal. And so David said he get right on it as soon as it you know warmed up and it was too cold and he called him next week said we still can't do it because it's too cold but first more faded in the back of another week later he says there's more and less take care of more which followed up and I Encourage people when they find pot holes with ever The column they've been very responsive and there another case in that college come to work Come up Worst Street and the pot hole find a manhole cover manhole cover. He caught up with Tom. Not caught him and he wasn't five minutes later so he had somebody there and had it back in there. Second point is we're younger officers and the quality of the young men and particularly the diverse that we've been able to accomplish with our new hires. I'm not sure. Women also, it's not a golf course. What I'm afraid of is, it's a private, private room. Yeah, but you have some great young owners. And so I've been very tickled with seeing that we're able to broaden our basic, in the police force, particularly. Thank you, sir, Mr. Sawyer. Is that one to me and traveling his staff for all of the years for the work that was a major hit? You know, I appreciate him. Listening to us and taking care of that, and I'm impressed with the fact that you allow somebody to opt out. You know, it's not the city's forces I made who are they actually opt out of they want to. That to me shows a great deal of forethought on the staff parts of the land. Greg. I like to say something. I forgot something. I just got to say this. That's true, right? And I have a sister who lives in Courier's or the Parkman's and who is disabled. And I've had problems after problems trying to get Courier to do something about her apartment. Poor water just stands there. And it's dangerous. And then other week, the ambulance had come down there two o'clock in the morning, and from her house was nothing but a sheet of ice. So when I went to talk to Corrigor Ode about it, the lady told me that I didn't read for them that my sister did for me let her complain about it. So I called Chuck. And Chuck went on there twice, and we're back down there again. I think the last part of last week. Well, I went down at a date to take us some things and they are digging a ditch and they are getting it so that water would drain up in front of her apartment and I just want to say I am so thankful to Chuck for getting it done and also for getting this trash cleaned up down there. It was awful down there. But most of all, for getting it so that my sister, when I go to ticker to doctor, I'll be able to get her out and won't have to wait through that ward. I have to have to take two precious with me. If it has rained, I have to take a pair to walk through that water and to get her and who you're trying to get her to the car. But I want to have to do that anymore. It's gratifying. We talked a little bit last night about painting and chuck with very responsive and two to three jobs. Chuck is very good. He responds. I call Chuck occasionally. I call him back. He talks about it. My people are responding. I don't know. Right? I'll just talk about water. It might need one other thing. Sunday before last, we have an all this rape. And I was out at lunch and I get a call from Hickory resident over in Hickory Forest. And I didn't have public works number. I couldn't find it in my phone and I called John to let another two manholes that were spewing the green fold. Yeah, that's what it is. I wanted to be a third of you. Oh, and I got John's personal number and my phone is really fine. Anyway, I called John and I texted the citizen that I had let somebody know, and 15 minutes later, he come and base it there, they're working on it now, so the response is just tremendous. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Oh, fine, thank you. Oh, we've got a great day. I'm going to go to the next day. And as I, as I tell them, we have this lawyers appreciation for kindness, for the service. The service is all we have. And our parents really do a good job serving the citizens, whether it's Trevor and his crown city hall, or they've heard you say, what something that they were responsible for. I would be really proud of that. I know we are. It started since the top. It is like ten years ago. Yes, my name is Orange. It's a war in the 19th years. I appreciate you being here, Dr. Chauysa. I appreciate all your work. Thanks. Robert, appreciate you being here tonight. Oh, yes sir. Appreciate all your work. You go back and tell your people that Council agrees with what you heard tonight about people, the none of them, all of them sure we have. Okay sir. Sorry, I'm going to get you on your paper. Jamie, thank you for being here. If there's nothing else I will call this man up.