Good evening ladies and gentlemen we will convene the regular schedule Thursday, May 7th meeting of the Asperer City Council. I'd like to remind you that this is being live streamed. We have some council people off site who are teleconference and welcome Ms. Mugs, Ms. Carter and Mr. Swear, but teleconference and this is a little unusual as our whole life seems to be these days with the COVID pandemic and our requirements to social distance and be safe and not have meetings of over gatherings over 10 people. So we will make the best of this. Appreciate our I-Team people for putting this together and we'll keep our fingers crossed and hope that it goes as planned. And Mr. Mayor, I apologize for interrupting. If you would mind inquiring of the members who were remote, so the clerk can know for purposes of a service. And who's in charge? And so, Ms. Snugs online. Can you hear us, Ms. Snugs? They're microphones right now. OK, they're viewed. OK, let me. She waved. OK, Mr. Swayures, can you wave? He's at the room. And I believe now they've been on mute so she could answer, we'd appreciate it. Charles Sures, can you hear me? Yes. Okay, is Ms. Carter with us tonight? Yes. Okay, great. Great. Great, she is not on my screen. She's on the bottom right. Okay, great. Great. See, it's not on my screen. See it's on the bottom right. Okay, got you. All right. So we've got everybody to represent. And we'll remind everybody to try to speak into the microphone so that everybody can hear everything. What we will do on the case of votes for you in remote locations. I will call for all in favor and everybody give us a voice vote and then I will come back to you individually for an affirmation of your vote so that we will have that on the record individually. That's not to put your own spot is just to make sure that our records are reflecting the will of the council. So tonight, as we get started, I would like to ask everybody to take a moment of prayer, solid prayer, as this is the National Day of Prayer. We started this morning with a live stream national theater prayer event. The mayor's prayer breakfast was also a casualty of the COVID-19 pandemic. But we had a wonderful event this morning, live stream. We had lots of visitors. People following that, we had some beautiful music, a wonderful message from that Smithic Vintage Church. And so, in following with that, and as we traditionally start our council meetings, I would like for you to take a moment of silent meditation. And I would ask during this moment of prayer that you keep our city clerk's family, the Hartman family in your prayers, a poly Hartman lost her mom unexpectedly this week, last week. And also, we need to pray for our friends and neighbors, pray for a rapid, but safe and orderly reopening of our state from the pandemic closure. There are a lot of people hurting. We are very aware of that and we need to pray for a rapid safe and orderly reopening. So if you will join me for just a moment and those of us here will stand. We will follow that with the pledge of allegiance. I mean, I pledge allegiance to the fire of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under the gull, indivisible, the liberty and justice for all. Thank you. There's anyone in the house tonight and for the audience that probably cannot tell, the room is empty except for a few staffers and a few council members. The visitors are must attend visitors tonight or out in the hall and they are socially distanced and we are following rules as best we can. Pretty well actually. So is anyone in the house tonight that would like to address the council during the public comment period of any matter of city business or concern? Hearing none, we will move into our consent agenda council. You have before you your consent agenda, is there any item in the consent agenda that you would like to remove for individual consideration and discussion? I will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented. Mayor, I move we approve the consent agenda as presented. We have a motion from Mr. Burk's to approve as presented. Do I have a second? Second. We have a second from Ms. Rating. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Okay now Katie snugs. Okay, I'm sorry you you are unmuted at this point Was your vote on affirmative vote? Yes Katie Mr. Swerves. Yes, Miss Carter. Okay, thank you very much. Any opposed? Motion to approve the consent agenda is approved. With the council's permission I'm gonna stick from the day us now and be in the hallway so we can have interacts with the council and the expert testimony on the next cases. Mr. Nuddle, Mr. Suggles, we'll do that. Okay, great, thank you. I have filed on our agenda, a community development director, Trevor Null will introduce 5A, which is RZ20, and ZERO1 is a public hearing. I will reopen the public hearing continued from April 9th. It is an application to the Resolve property at 137 North Randolph Avenue, Mr. Null. Thank you, Mayor. This is a general district rezoning requests to take the reference property from R7.5 residential to B2 general commercial. The applicant on this request is the property owner Brandon Michael Allen. We are looking at one Randolph County parcel number with this request just over three tenths of an acre inside. Currently the properties undeveloped. Formerly there was a single family dwelling on the property that has been removed. We look at the an overview of the zoning map. You'll see the subject parcel was outlined in red. As you move south, you see yellow coloring, which denotes an R10 medium density residential district. As you move east on the south side and then after high street on the north side of Salisbury Street, you see that all of the color. That is the R7.5 zoning area, which is a current zoning for this property. The pink shading to the north of the subject property is B1, which is neighborhood business. We have Merkantyle and a conditional use office and apartment zoning to the northeast. Just to the west of the property is Alan Automotive which is zone B2 commercial the same district that's being requested here this evening. As you zoom in a little closer on the property you can get a better idea of where those zoning districts fall in relation to the specific parcels that blue and white cross hatching to the west is 100-year regulated floodplain. That does not impact this property. Turn over, just to clarify. Let's see. Partial A. Yes, sir. Partial A is the parcel being requested for rezoning. And parcel. Ah, is the parcel. Is it as Alan Automotive property? And the cow co is in the. That's correct. Yes, sir. Up on the screen now we have the typographic utilities maps. It gives you an idea where the city's public infrastructure is it is available to serve this property from Randolph Avenue. There's no worthy environmental features as it relates to floodplain or wetlands that the city regulates for this parcel. Mr. Noble, may I back you up. Yes, second place. You asked about the pink bee. Well I was just a pinkish. Well across the street is car wash and then at the corner of Elm in Salisbury that gas station in the convenience store is in the pink. Correct. Cross hatch pink. Yeah, but you said the be better. Yeah, it's all pink in zone and watershed in area and said, right? Correct. Here, you get a better idea where the surrounding uses are. You can see the car wash of the north, Alan Automotive to the west again. The convenience store at the intersection of Northam and Salisbury and those residential areas obviously as you move east and south away from the subject parcel. This is a view of the subject property where the former dwelling stood. This is that scene from North Randolph Avenue. This is looking east along East Salisbury Street across the frontage of the subject parcel. Now we're looking west back towards downtown on East Salisbury Street again across the frontage of the subject parcel. Real quickly in terms of analysis, East Salisbury Street slash NC Highway 42 is state maintained. It is classified as a major thoroughfare. The city's most recent comprehensive transportation plan did identify this segment of 42 as over capacity with 2012 volumes of 13,000 average annual vehicles per day versus a capacity of just under 12,000. Proposed road improvements include the addition of a center turn lane sidewalks and curb and gutter further east along Ford NC 42 between East Salisbury Street and East Dixie Drive. We've talked about that project that is funded. Those improvements are further east that have been slated for construction. But I will note the city has submitted a request for consideration to the DOT for a future widening of the East Salisbury Street from Elm Street to that previously mentioned funded project, which is U5743. We will know at this point in early 2022 whether that project looks like it will be funded or not, but obviously there's a lot of variables at play with the OT funding right now. If you read the zoning ordinance for a description of the requested B2 district, It is intended to serve the convenience goods, shoppers goods, retail and service needs of the motoring public, both local and transit. The district should always be located with access on minor or higher classification streets and not local residential streets. East Salisbury Street does fit that bill north Randolph as a city maintained non-thera-fair street. And it's important to point out here with this being a general district rezoning request, approval of the B2 application would allow any use permitted by right to be developed on the property provided city zoning requirements are met in that B2 district. It's important to note if you look at the land development plans proposed land use map for this recommendation, you'll see North Randolph Avenue on to the left of this proposed land use map, both this parcel and interestingly the parcel to the south of this parcel were designated for commercial development when this plan was adopted back in 2000. And you'll see that commercial designation actually even extends further east over to North High Street. So when you look at the LDP and its totality for recommendations, we note that it is slated for commercial development. It's part of the central small area plan and within a primary growth area in terms of LDP recommendations, of goals, specific goals and policies within your plan. We tend to believe that there are eight that generally are supported to those to the request those are outlined on the screen and in your staff report. We believe that there are two which are identified on the screen and in your staff report as tending not to be supportive of this request. When we think about consistency with the adopted plans of the city, the reasonableness of the requests and whether it's in the public's interest, we note that the requested district is supported by the LDP's proposed land use map. It's also, we believe, supported by current zoning to the north, which is that neighborhood commercial designation, and the B2 immediately adjacent into the west of the property which is owned general commercial as well. It's fairly close to the center city activity center city activity center only being six parcels removed from that mixed use area of downtown. We note that any non-residential development should the request be approved will be required to install a landscape buffer or screen along the southern property line for the benefit of that adjacent residential property. Furthermore, the city's front yard landscaping standards will be triggered for non-residential development on East Salisbury Street and North Randolph Avenue, and that would have to be installed as part of a commercial development. Lastly, there are design standards that the city has that would apply to building construction materials for any structure that would be located on the property, the use of metal or vinyl on the front the sides of these of any buildings would be restricted. Trevor. Yes sir. Along those lines I think this lots approximately 12,500 square feet something that never good. And it's got, it's front two streets is corner lots dude. Correct. So it's got two front yard setbacks and then yes inside buffers Is setbacks is anyone done a calculation? Actually buildable area It is on this one we have Yeah, we we have not It's a little difficult without being presented a specific plan of development It's a little difficult without being presented a specific plan of development. But if you keep in mind that you're looking at it at 2.25 foot front setbacks off both Randolph and Salisbury Street as well as most likely at least a 10 foot landscape and screen on the southern property line, that would give you an idea of what remains to be buildable. Thank you. This is a smaller man. Look, considerably smaller. Yeah, it's probably down to 8,000 square feet for building an embarking. There's something down on it. Go ahead. So this request did go through the Plain & Boards Review. It actually, that occurred back in March. The planning board did concur with the staff's recommendation and consistency statement to recommend approval of this request. So therefore, before Council tonight is consideration of the consistency statement as well as the rezoning application. I'll note, as I always do, the council is free to consider our consistency statement, but you're also free to give more or less weight to any of those goals and policies that we've identified from your plan that you feel are supportive or not supportive of the request. I'll be happy to answer any more questions the applicant is present. Are there any questions? In your remote locations, Mr. Swayers, Mr. Snugs, and Ms. Carter, do you have questions? I did. Go right ahead, Ms. Carter. My question is, possibly, which is considered as a conditional yeast? And I'll see, maybe, with something else, that's where it is. You know, what was done to you here today, is that we've try to answer that. As we do with all applicants, we discuss the options that are available to the property owner and discuss both pros and cons of a general district request as well as a conditional use request. Ultimately, it is the property owners discretion as to what application they file and what application we have to respond to. I am not aware of a prohibition, a zoning prohibition that would prevent access from Randolph Avenue. The city would impose driveway standards for Randolph Avenue, but if those standards were met, the city most likely would be in a position that we would have to issue a permit. Trevor, with the design standards of the product of both, the any structure that's built facing Salisbury Street as well as Randolph? Yes, our historic interpretation has been that that material standards applies to both street frontages. And the landscape buffer would only be on the southern end and not on the eastern end. Most likely, right. It's unlikely that any development would have to buffer against the B2 use to the west, but there would be a buffer screen required against the southern property line. But not facing the residential use to the west. Excuse me, please. There would be a street yard landscaping requirement to the east, but not a buffer or screen, yes, sir. Where would the D indicate this as a rental development grant? Yes, if you look at the the city's proposed land use map it does designate this property as well as the property immediately to the south and east for commercial development. Thank you. other questions. Okay, I will invite anyone in attendance that would like to address the council on this request. The first person that would like to speak, come forward. While they're coming up, Mr. Mayor, based on the numbers that Trevor gift with the setbacks of the 25 feet to 10 feet. I mean you've got 5800 square feet of usable land on that block. Parking built in the whole nine yards. Well I'm just saying this. That address is a lot of intensity at the time. Okay. Um, is Mr. Nuller's air book up there to side? Um, is Mr. Null, is there a book up there to sign? Okay. All right. Introduce yourself and I'll speak to the council. Please. My name is Brandon Allen. I own the lot that's in question. I'd like to add that the lot that's beside of it, the 14 e-solid restry at the Salon Automotive is owned by the same my father. Uh, and this lot goes with it. It's currently on B2 and we'd like to get this zone B2 so we can all go together as a whole so it'll be zone the same. Our plans for it right now is to do a car lot. We've already spoken to the license of the F Bureau. Everything's been approved. We have our license and everything. It's good to go there. We have no intentions of doing anything besides that with it. But like I said, it is. We'll be zone the same as it is besides there. So it wouldn't be any worries about interrupting the neighbor that way. And of course, I would have no problems doing whatever landscaping buffers, whatever we need to do. And if we were to put a building there, we got to do what we got to do to make it look right for the city. That's no problem at all. Be happy to do whatever it takes to make the city happy. So this is kind of the expansion of your existing business. That's what it would require of building so that. Right. And it explains the area size pretty well. Yeah. And more than anything we'd like for it to be parking. Right. I mean, because if you drive by you can tell we have very little parking as it is. So that would be the more remained things we'd like. With that, and these are not for our questions, I'll task you all as Trevor, for he gets onto me. Anything that they would do, and if it were a blanket, be to zoning, would be said to you to our elimination plan. Right, granted, you need to step back. Let Mr. Lone get to the blanket. We don't know what he may do. Correct. Correct. So it is important that you do consider uses beyond what Mr. Allen discussed because it is a general district request. But in terms of lighting standards, those are already built into the zoning code. So those are applicable, whether it's a conditional use request or not. To like, address the sheets on 64 or the directional lights, that sort of track it will be. Right. That's taken care of in the general. Correct. Okay. Thank you. I'd like to have one more thing. The business has been there for about going on 26 years and I have no intention of ever changing it from anything else. So I have one question. Have you pursued a driveway permit with DOT? I have not. Okay. It's something I have to look into. They would have ultimately authority for your driveway. Ingress, egress, on salt spray. But the way that land currently lays, can you access this property from your existing parking lot in the drywall? We can. There is about a foot and a half for Tainan Wall right there. And that'll be no problem to take that where you can go back and forth, which would actually be ideal. Possibly a team would not give you a drywall permit there. Yeah. Especially at the corner. That's probably very good. Well, especially at the corner. That's probably very good. Well, I'll cross that bridge if it comes to it. OK. Any other questions of Mr. Allen? Any questions of Mr. Allen to the remote? OK. Is anyone else who would like to address the council regarding this request? Does anyone else who would like to address the council regarding this request? Come ahead, Mr. George. Hello? Hello. Good evening. How are you? Good. Should I introduce myself? Please do. My name is Owen George, and I'm honored to be here tonight in front of you, the City Council and the Mayor. And I'm just as honored to be here to represent a group of long-time Ashbur residence cannot be here tonight. And I'm just going to mention their names. Sorry with Harry and Mack Isley, Property Owners, all these have under own residential properties within 1,000 feet of this location We're talking about tonight and they're concerned about a wide open rezoning that could go in a lot of different directions The eyes leads third generations their dad and mom bought their house in 1946 He came here to be the property of the extension agent Harry's been max dad open a textile plant here later The Georgia's myself and my son. Our folks came here three generations 1960, grew up with Clark Bell here. Terry Russell, his folks up the road, they came in 1964 three generations and the in-eratial, Millican and new commerce. They've been there 40 years but they love it there. I spoke with them yesterday so they bought two more houses on the street. All these houses are within a thousand feet of this location. Heather Scott's name is here. She lives next to her. She's lived there 10 years. She's a younger generation that loves living in this neighborhood. She's the vet tech at the North Carolina Zoo. And likes to walk her dog down that street and down towards Randolph's,hingo downtown. Now, if you will bear with me, I would just like to read this letter because there's a letter from these folks I've mentioned they cannot be here tonight. Dear City Council members, as owners and residents of eight residential properties on East Salisbury Street, we are writing to express our concern regarding a proposed rezoned of property 137 North Randolph Avenue from R7.5 medium density residential to B2 general commercial without requiring a conditional use permit. As an introduction to this letter we would like to add that we were not knowledgeable of the ash borough planning board meeting to review this zoning request we heard all about that from Trevor a few minutes ago and therefore we did not have the time or opportunity to express our concerns to the board and property owner. And today, due to the health concerns, some of these folks are up there in years. They didn't want to come up here tonight. So, I'm addressing this letter on their behalf. Now, B2 General Commercial, I'm sure you all probably know it allows a very wide range of use for property. I've got all 23 pages here, I reviewed it myself, and allowed uses under this B2 range, they range from A to Z, including a bar, a brew pub, a drive-in restaurant, a flea market, a liquor store, a nightclub, open storage, a package store, or a drive-through package store, if you'd like. End-oor recreational, thank-go fishing games, you know, those are so popular these days or a vehicle towing operation. Should 137 Randolph Avenue be approved for B2 zoning without any kind of conditional use permit, the wide ranges of B2 would be allowed not just by this fine gentleman that was here just now speaking, but might anybody else who buys it or would own it or would acquire it for any other reason. Now we do not believe the outcome of that would be in the best interest of the children, residents, or future generations of Ashboro. That's our letter. Now I'd like to just make a few remarks. First of all it's been really interest for me to work with these folks to be able to talk here today and also combining that with my recent experience on the Land Development Review Committee, where we've interviewed a wide range of people to find out what do people like about Asperger and what we want Asperger to be like in the future. And a big part of that really is talking about quality of life. An affordable place to live, an diverse place with neighborhoods that you can walk freely. Now, I grew up around Randolph Avenue. I've known it. And it's a residential street. We know that it's a photograph that you guys showed, only showed up. The industrial lot. But because it's been the house with bulldozers, but if you look right across the street, there's a nice house sitting there. And all the way down the other part of the street, there's a nice homes and there's sidewalks on both sides of that street, pretty rare in Ashboro. Because Greystone, where this house is located, I think is the heart of Ashboro. That's the home of the American Dream in Ashboro. And about seven generations of folks have grown up there, been able to live there, afford a house, it's a diverse, we know that, and it's becoming more diverse all the time, which when you think about it, it's pretty cool when you look at the history of Ashboro, with that dividing line right down the middle on Salisbury Street. So this neighborhood we're talking about is very diverse. The homes on Randolph right now look the best I've seen them looking 40, 50 years if you really want to know. People are taking care of those homes. And I don't think we should just have a zoning ordinance that allows somebody to change their mind or somebody decided to throw $50,000 in their pocket that you plunk down one of these other kinds of uses that we read about because they'd be able to do so. Is that not right? If the lot is so, or somebody changes their mind. Because people change their minds all the time. A lot of people motivate people. If you think back 15 years ago, for example, David, you remember the nonprofit we started called Trees Ashboro. One of our first projects, we wanted to try to beautify that cross road right there because it's had its problems. We know that. We worked with the DAT. They were known for being tough to work with and through a grant from Duke Energy we were able to plant about 50 trees all around and working with the private business owners. Why would we want to do that? We envision something more like what you'd see in a place like Cary, you know, like a retirement community where people go to actually retire, a place that looks kind of nice. So our organization worked with private business people and planted and landscape the city actually planted the trees because it was dangerous to be out there on Salisbury Street. Well, you know what, over the years, those business owners let them change their mind and cut all the trees down. And some of them are related to this topic right now because people change their minds. Now, I'm not against a good development. These are fine people. I know they're fine people. But I think we need to be mindful about white opening re-zones without putting some conditions on it. After all, what's the problem? Is it $350 to get a condition permanent? Is that correct, sir? Well, I'll say it here tonight. If this fireman right here wants to change his mind, I'll pay the $350. Because I don't think we should do that to our nice neighborhoods. And that's about all I have to say. I apologize if I'm a little too intense here. But I do think we need to think about the long term of what happens when we let people do direct changes on from residential to B2, 23 pages. All right. Thank you, Mr. George. Any questions for Mr. George? I just, like I always enjoy your enthusiasm when I talk to you. You are an enthusiastic fellow. So if I understood you correctly and you're representing the people that are also on your letter, if this gentleman out here were to make, were to request a conditional use With this rezoning you and these other people be okay with this. I'll pay it myself. You'll pay it yourself Okay, I just want to clarify. Well, I'm after all you heard the man. He says that's exactly what they want to do They don't want to change it. They won't do that forever or never never so I'm good to go so Thank you very much for your time. Okay any other questions We'll just comment. I'll just comment. I'm sorry. I'll just comment of our respect to everything you say and I understand it. And these are, as we have areas that are, areas of transition, you know where, where's the start and stop and, and, and interim zones and cocksery to get examples of that? We've got some different intensities. So, good points, bro. Well, I'm a fan of the conditional use. It makes people focus their ideas and commit to it. You know? We have many many times over the years. I've been sitting here, talked about how we use is our transition from what is obviously residential to what is obviously commercial and that's what we find ourselves here one of the highly most highly traveled highways in Asperg with a residential neighborhood bordering and entry into the end of that condition. You would be the more. Anyway, this is a number of road. I mean, a two-digit number road. Stay highway. Stay highway. There's a third first of that. The whole situation is in flux and challenging. You know, with the existing business zoning around it. Put your 100% correct about the residence on Round-Off on the corner. It's between them between. What shall we do? Okay. Any other questions on Mr. George? 58. Okay, any other questions are Mr. George? Any questions remotely? Mr. George? Okay. Mr. George, thank you. Is anyone else in the audience announced tonight that would like to address the council regarding this request? Okay. We will transition to the Related place. Pardon is there. Oh, that's sir. Mr. Allen. Come back. I'd like to note one thing that when I first met with Trevor, he gave me a list of all the Presidents I was required to get paperwork to and I was wondering, oh no, I did that. I gave it to every single person and send it out on a very timely manner two weeks ahead of time of the meeting. And I'm not sure who I was included on that list. Everyone that was mandatory, I was happy to send it to and it's some other questions I've been more in happy to answer it. But I'm sure as anybody would, if you own a piece of property, you can preside beside each other, which I Which I wanted to be on the same thing. Oh, absolutely. We understand that. It's unfortunate that the required notifications only go to a button, a button, most immediate properties is that the case. So some of these people that were listed in his as he represented were just up the street. I see you say within a thousand things. So, I was on the picture that they weren't required to identify them, but they as close members would have a concern. Okay. I don't question, yes. Go right ahead. Mr. Allen, I mean, this is a total Mr. George, I understand everything you're telling me. The, and I think I know everyone that was on Owen's list there and know them well. The challenge that I see us to overcome in the logic of your statement is good logic. You know, your B2, your cross-free from B, you know, would make sense from your, from everybody's perspective in a certain way to a point, you know, that it would be the same zone in that business. But it's some juncture we have to transition, you know, to the homes on round off to the rear, you know from your garages perspective There's not really anything exactly behind it from the corner lot there. There are houses next door And it's a narrow lot. I think it's about 85 feet deep. I'm not mistaken something in that neighborhood And then you got the house across street and round off that's on the corner, you know that are And you got the house across street and round up that's on the corner. You know, there are reasonably well kept, maintained homes, and how do we transition from everything that's potentially on that list. I don't think it's quite as dire as the entire list would be due to the size of the lot. However, a joint with your existing lot,. All my mathematics are after winter and you all sudden have probably three quarters of aikler water, maybe an aikler. So that gives some different options. Are you comfortable with your straight rezone and request or would a more transitional request to be of any consideration. I would rather stay far in question to ask at this time. I would rather stay my ground at this point. And we're in America, National Program. Yes sir. I can serve it, not you in your park. I mean existing business. I can serve it as the next owner. Well I'd like to add to what he was talking about the size of the lot. Without the adjoining property of the garage, no law's not doing that for a building. When he talked about putting all those kinds of businesses there, physically impossible, wouldn't fit. By slip? Yeah. But it's not by itself anymore. No, nobody would buy the garage at down the pit of a bar. Well, they could. They could. Yeah, but if they bought it, they do it with it. You have a luxury of dealing with logic and good sense and we're in government. We have deal with the entire imagination of the hundreds of the free world. Our position has to be that if you and your father decided to retire, get out of the business, sell the property, the next owner that could come in and you see how proud that list is. They could pull those your garage building and you could put anything almost anything that is on that list that would fit. Now if we were to sell the garage as it is now, what would prevent them from doing that on the lot already? Absolutely not. And we would never sell one without the other. And we understand that. We've just, when you say that, situations change and I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying you have to understand where we are sitting and issue like this. It is very evident that it has been a measure of life. And we want you to do so much. And we want you to do so much. And we want you to do so much. And we want you to do so much. And we want you to do so much. And we want you to do so much better. So be successful. We got to work. Not so much. We did try. We did. Now I would ask one thing. I know we talked about the conditions of houses. If you would just ride down that road and see for yourself, the conditions of the houses. You know, if you ever had a different lead other than anything condition that came along, you can always come back and change it. The minute this thing is going. It came along and it always come back and it changed it. It's the minute that things go on. It does not restrict you down the road. As he said, it is a minute. A minute or more. Yes, go right here. This is how you call it. My first story is not what the Allen was doing there. I have to call it that. This is what I call it. My first story is not what the Alan will say in there. I have a question that my sister always does not say it for you. It's what could the future bring. We're in Canada from this place right now where They've been in there for a past way, it's the same time about their status as a fire, for less than a way out there, really, never felt that happened. But it's something that happens. And instead of the effect of that, the conditional use, there you are, as a future, we're not looking at what's happened currently. We're looking at what the future might break from it, Mr. Amel. Right. And I'd rather say the future will bring more business on that corridor than it will residential. I do, so I should. Right. But what we do have a lot of long-time residents that are right along that corridor right this morning. You know, it might be good to have some conditions and get going tomorrow with your project. They never where you stand. And as these properties, transitions, and they will, just like they have on Cox Street, I'll promise you they will. You know, then you can transition with. All right. Now, I don't want to wait years and years to go into business or make more money. Let's do another one. I have a question. I have a procedural question. Sure. If he were to be turned down to not put this request. What's the timeline for him to reapply? How does that, he could come back next month with a different request? Yes. I believe the ordinance allows up to two requests for the same property in a 12-month period. I think there would probably be a limitation on bringing the same property in a 12 month period. I think there would probably be a limitation on bringing the same request back, but a different request I do believe we'd be eligible to. For 60 days minimum, by technology, time you ever try to avoid the problem. Correct, a brand new request would start back over, go to the planning board, and other application fee, and go back through the process. He'd be September from England, please. Any close? Okay, thank you, sir. Any other questions? Where is the delivery phase at this point? I think. Just Mr. Mayor. Just to make sure that I know all their options, I am not advocating for any particular decision or outcome. I just wanted to clarify one, Mr. Nuddle gave a correct statement of the law as far as the city ordinance goes. You can't come back within 12 months with exactly the same request. You can come back if you have a different request. If it was for example, not pushing for this, if it were a conditional use, that would obviously be different. You are also, like Mr. Nuddle said, limited to only two times within the 12-month period. That would not be an issue here. The other thing I did want to mention is, there is no way under the city's ordinance, because the ordinance does take, do you know, to the fact that while conditional use has certain advantages, as far as control, it also does put restrictions on what you do with the property and have any site-specific plans. Therefore, the ordinance would not allow for a conversion at this particular moment from your request as it is, Mr. Allen, over to a conditional use of district. Having said that, the reason that it is is because the ordinance requires a written request to be submitted to make sure you have time to think about what you're doing and what you won't. The one other wrinkle to that is that the city, both based on the ordinance provisions and past practice, has taken the position that if you asked for a continuance to continue to mull over your options and decide carefully if you wanted to go this route or not as far as condition we use, that in that circumstance the advertising that has been done you would be going for a more restrictive district that would not require new advertising. If you submitted a written request during that time period of a continuous that would not require a new start. It would not start over the entire process that you could move forward at that point. If you submitted a written request during that interim to have it considered by the council. I'm not advocating that I just want to make sure both the governing board and you are fully aware of what the options are. That is correct and it does not require any additional fee at that point because the advertising I'm going to ask the commission. Oh, I've done it. Oh. Oh. Mr. Mayor, I guess being delivered to favor, I believe that we did not request Mr. Staff. Unless you want to have a separate motion, would you be willing since the staff consistency statement was talking about supportive, are you weighing the factors, definitely? There were some that were negative or you weigh in those I think I think the issues as it relates to the joint landowners to the west weigh heavily in the available uses under a straight Okay, sure. I'll ask him. Good good. Mr. Allen? Yes. I know you told us a few minutes ago you're going to stand your ground. You understand I do not have a vote. Right. yes. I am, it appears that you may not have a vote. You need to get a vote. Do you want to consider a continuation? And what all would that include? Can it come back next month with the same ground I'm on now, or do you have to change it? You don't have to change it. You can just mull it over some more and do the exact same time for 30 days to Talk to planning department talk to some of the councilman about their their position on straight risk only brother this profit After doing that you may feel like an amended request or a different request would be more desirable. Now I'm not saying you have to change your request. I'm just saying you don't have the books tonight. If you ask us for a continuum, if you've got 30 days to figure this out, to lobby us for it. But do I have to change my? You do not have to change. No. You're just asking us to delay our vote. Right. And 30 days, you know, beats another 90 days or whatever. Right. Now I know some of the people that he was talking about. If I go to them and talk to them, does that make a difference? Some of them are very shocking that they're on there. Well, yes, I'm answering that. It could sway our thinking. Right. But I can tell you from the questions and previous experience, and I'm sitting here 24 years, a conditional use in many cases is a lot more palatable to the council because as we said earlier this is not about you and your dad and what you want to do. This is about 10, 15, 20 years from now circumstances change and it may not purchase or the next owner may not have a business and it is as compatible as what you guys wanted to. It may not be as restricted if you think, instead of thinking of the, if this is going to sound invertebrate, instead of thinking of the positive by what you wanted to think about the, in the negative what you don't even care to do. Right. Most of the things, not all the things that they describe might be undesirable, as you said, you don't have any. Just take them off the list. Yeah. That could be part of the conditions. Nobody. I don't think there's a soul in this building. Them or us, one of the things that y'all had in the power sales area, there's a bad idea. Right. But I think you could really use it 30 days in a, you know, expedient manner and keep you powder dry. Right. I have one question. What would have allowed the lot that Allen Automotive is that now it'll be zone B2 and this one here, B2N. I'm sorry. I'm saying what would cause the lot that currently on on the moon, this currently zone B2? Why would it be approved in this year of E turned day? It was a commercial lot. As far back as I remember it was Burrows TV. Right. Way way back. When I was a little kid it was Burrows TV. Big, big wooden commercial building and the solar service TV. It was commercial from way back. You understand that planning and zoning, land use planning and proper zoning is relatively new item to us in a 220 year old city. In the last 50 years, 60 years. So when they built burrows there and said that's commercial, nobody in Asher, they were heard of Zoning. What a really rare one. Really unusual, right? Don't remember that, but I do remember them. I went to school with the Burrows and I mean that was Burrows TV and appliance as far back as I ever remember. I lived in a worst street when I was a little kid. It was a existed non-conformance where it must walk into the canyon, in some juncture. That is why the year. And I also remember with Mr. Hadley, the little unicorn in that, that's all that life that you owe now. And the Hadley Coal Company people. That's just on the side. I'm just saying to you, we can we can proceed we can call for a vote we can do this. You can ask for a continuance give you 30 days to really study the situation talk to planning and zoning lobby the council members or their vote and your way of thinking. But when I'm confident at this point, you does not agree that you have a vote to win this vote. Mr. Mayor, if I may, this is once again, just so everyone's aware. And I don't put the elected officials in a fair position. I don't want you to think that as a matter of them choosing or wanting to ignore what you gave on this far specific testimony. But the city zoning ordinance puts them, they know it. So that's why I did not have to speak up because there was even a reference that council member Moppet that he couldn't go too far in what he was talking about. But under the city code, it provides that city zoning ordinance, I should say. There's the intent of this section that the applicant for rezoning to any district other than the conditional use district shall be prohibited from offering any testimony or evidence concerning the specific manner in which he intends to use or develop the property. So the reason I'm bringing that up is simply I want to inferness to the lake officials. They know that they've had a lot of discussion in training about this if it's the general rezoning. And the reason you can lobby is because it's not a quasi-judicial proceeding. If it does become conditional use, there's a quasi-judicial element like one before a court or a judge. You have to wait and talk to them in this setting. In the general rezoning, you can talk to him, but in terms of any lobbying, they still under the code or the ordinance, they're not going to be allowed to consider what you specifically are planning to do in this context. Right. As long as that's that general district, they have to consider all of the uses that any property owner might make use of the property. So I just add that to make sure no one's taken lightly what you say. It's just they are in a position where they can't act upon a specific pledge in this type of receiving. Right. If you have not told the clue, then I'm going to say you will allow to know what you're playing for that part. Right. They're office- about that. All right. So, all in your court. I guess we'll continue it. Okay. We have a request from the applicant to continue. And for procedural purposes, if you don't mind asking, we have a motion that's owned the floor to nine. And we did not get a second. That's precisely so it's been I'm not asking we have a motion that's on the floor tonight. I'm going to draw my motion. And we did not get a second for that. That's precisely. So there was no second. It's been withdrawn. May I have a motion to accept this request for a continuous and continue this to the next regular scheduled meeting? May I have a motion with Dr. Grant, the petition to the question continues? We have a motion to grant the request for the senator. Do I have a second? Second. Okay. Second, Ms. Carter. Thank you. All the favour say aye. Okay. In the remote, do you, misnoges? Yes? Yes. Mr. Swear, so you concur? Yes. And Ms. Carter? Yes. Okay, we have unanimous vote to accept your request for continuance and in the end, I think you'd like to do this. So thank you. We will see you back here next month. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Item 5B is RZ-CUP 20-03. I will open a quasi-judicial hearing combined hearing on application to resume property of 1420, he solves very and 350, eight patent, Avenue, believe you have some information for us to disturb. No, no. Yes, thank you, Mayor. Today we did receive a request from the applicant's representative requesting to continue this matter to the June meeting. Thank you. We have a motion, I mean, I request from the applicant to continue this matter to the June meeting. Thank you. We have a motion, I mean a request from the applicant to continue 5B. May I have a motion to approve that request? So moved. I have a motion by Mr. Moffeck. Do I have a second, second, Mr. Swayer? We have a motion of a second to grant a container for our Z-Dash, CUP 20-03. All in favor say aye. All opposed. All right. Remotely, do you concur, Ms. Nudge? Yes. Mr. Swayers? Yes. Ms. Carter? Yes. Mr. Swerves? Yes. Ms. Carter? Yes. Thank you very much. Motion is approved. And item 5C is CUPE-02-04. It will open a quasi-judicial hearing applicant for a condition to use permit authorizing a land use identified as a multi-use commercial development property located 1226 East Dixie Drive. Thank you Mayor. This is a condition use permit request 20-04. We are looking at property at 1226 E-Stixie Drive. The applicant on this request is TriCore International LLC. I do want to point out that on page one of you report under the legal description there was a reference to Middleton income investments. I'm sorry reference to TriCichor, an international LLC. That is the applicant, the owner on this request is middle-ten income investors LLC, and that's what was indicated on the application. This is a request to modify an existing additional. Yes, yes. We'd be sworn in. Oh, thank you. Thank you for that. Yes, this is cause I judicial. So we do need to be placed under a. I'll go ahead and take care. Everybody individually. Individually. Yes, sir. Would you like to do them all? I mean, bring all in and do them in the way. Just as they speak. Okay. Mr. No. No. We're going to do your individual as you speak. Mr. No, go, we're going to do your individual ASU speak. Mr. Novel, go right ahead. I do. Okay, Mr. Novel for the record has been sworn. Yes, thank you. Real quickly, again, CUP case, 20-04, application file by Tri-Core International for 12-26 East, Dixie Drive. The owner on this request is Middleton Income Investment SELO. See that is the property owner. We are looking at one Randolph County PIN, totalling Gis over 22 acres in size. The request is to modify and exist in conditionally used permit that covers this property. It actually includes the property containing the Walmart shopping center, but does not contain the rest of that shopping center out out there at the plaza. here. The parcel outlined in blue up on the screen and in your packet is the zoning parcel that is subject to this modification request. And in fact, it is, would be a new conditional use permit being considered for this property. We'll zoom in a little closer. You can see all the red commercial zoning along the Dixie Drive corridor, a lot of general district B2 with frontage directly on that corridor. But you all probably remember, this is about 20 years ago, the rezoning request was considered for this shopping center, and that was a conditional use application that was followed. Up on the screen here is a depiction of city utilities that service the area in this property. You can see to the west of the parcel requested for a new conditional use permit. We do have some flood plain in that location but not affecting very much or any of this property. Here's the aerial photos. You can get an idea of what is being requested to be modified in terms of the specific development out there. It includes a leg that goes out to Dixie Drive and primarily the Walmart Center and Parking directly in front of that structure. This is a view from the entrance to the Plaza from East Dixie Drive. Here we're looking south towards Walmart in the approximate location of the proposed new structure. And I'll note for the council present here, there is a site plan packet that is on the table and for the folks participating remotely, I will put some images up on the screen and from his card or those plans are also in your folder. This is at the entrance to the shopping center now looking east on East Xydraath and this would be looking west along East Xydraath. So if you were to look at those site plans before you, there are several sheets we extracted a few of them to display here this night, tonight. Up on the screen now, it shows you the area of what would be a lease area for a new 8400 square foot multi-tenant commercial structure with drive through that is being proposed as the permit modification on this request. There are other pages in there that this shows an idea of the build out of that lease area proposed parking the building orientation landscaping that is being proposed Which I'll note is above and beyond the city's requirements in this case They are providing some land landscaping screening against commercial property that they They don't have to, but in the spirit of the ordinance provided that. This is a, we are now zooming in on the development proposal. You can see the multiple 20 foot tenant spaces, the drive-through around the left side of the building, and the 43 parking spaces that are proposed. It is important to note that while we do have a, this approval, this request would result in a net reduction of a parking out at the shopping center, the staff has run the calculations and has determined that there is excess parking provided currently and the reduction, the net position after this development would still be compliance as it relates to parking for the shopping center. Also included are building elevations that depict the style and ornamentation of the proposed building. the style and ornamentation of the proposed building. Real quickly rolling through analysis here, this property is in the city limits. Obviously, US Highway 64 is as the state maintained boulevard. As I said, the property is subject to a condition used permit. First issued when the property was developed back in 1998. The permit was for retail commercial use, what you see out there. This use allows all uses permitted by right in that B2 zoning district. Again, the modification being sought here is to allow the addition of an 8400 square foot multi-tenant commercial structure and the recontaguration of some parking. This structure, if orientation is just behind the Chili's restaurant. And talking with the developer's team on this proposal, they have submitted conditions that seek to continue the conditions that were first approved back in 98 so to continue those conditions forward. There is some updates to some of that language to modernize it for today's code and there is some additional language that relates to some maintenance of those elements that were conditioned back in 1998. But if you were to read through these conditions and compare them to those that were agreed to back in 1998, they would look very similar. One of the new ones is proposed condition G and that is to allow for new service to be provided to this commercial structure. So that's insured to ensure that the water system can be constructed and maintained ultimately by the city. There's also a condition that speaks to the potential for blanket easements being necessary for cross-access across the entirety of the shopping center since now it is in multiple parcels as opposed to one single track of land. of a city compliance permit should the council find evidence to grant the permit this evening. Condition K notes that we would need to see documentation from NCDOT that the proposal is satisfactory to the Department of Transportation. Conditionologists covers our standard requirement for a memorandum of Landy's restriction to be recorded in the public registry to put future owners on notice of this permit. It's a pretty straightforward request. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Up on the screen are the required findings of fact for a conditionally used permit. It is the applicant's responsibility to address those findings. They are present and I'll be happy to answer any questions. those findings. They are present and I'll be happy to answer any questions. That is a reinforced concrete pipe for storm carry storm work. Thank you Mr. Nuddle. Any questions from the remote audience tonight regarding this request of Mr. Nuddle? Good. Thank you. All right. I have opened the Buzz out judicial hearing and I will call an applicant's representative to come in and be sworn. I do. Thank you. Well, the record Mr. Terrell has been sworn. Thank you, Mayor Smith. Moomers of Council, I'm Tom Terrell with the law firm Fox Roth Child and Greensboro. My address is 300 North Green Street. I think the most important fact I'd like to make right now is that there are no opponents sitting in the hallway with us. I don't know if any of you are calling in. First of all, and also the second point, we've really enjoyed working with your staff. They've been very quick to respond. And I have actually experienced that myself, but the company that I represent TRICOR International has asked me to convey that. Each of you should have gotten maybe electronically but I think a hard copy in front of you a submittal package that we sent last late last week. I would like to officially submit that into evidence before you tonight. As Mr. Nautal said, this was proved first in 1998. It was controversial at that time. Reynolds Naley has told me several times that in his entire career here that was the longest public hearing he ever had to go through. He reminded me of that when we were offering the conditions and that is among the reasons that we have offer conditions that essentially replicate but update the same protections that were given to the neighbors at that time. It has been 22 years since then, and I would like to visually show you, as an exhibit A page 2, we provided to you what this looks like in the context of the broader center. For those who were listening in by telephone, this is of the submittal package, it's Exhibit A, page two. There is a small little artist concept that's in red that is too scale and it shows you that in the context of the center that was approved in 1998, this essentially is minuscule. It is only 8400 square feet, but it does not add that much contextually. We did send a long two-page letter, included that visual to all the neighbors, not just a joining, but within 1300 feet. We extended that much broader. I gave them my personal cell phone, I gave them my email, nobody called, nobody has written. We took from that that the letter was sufficient. And it did include an apology that we could not meet with them in person. And I think you understand why. A very brief description and overview of your standards on health and safety this entire center Infantly larger has been in now for 22 years and to my knowledge There is no evidence to remotely suggest that the whole context has been dangerous to public health or safety. The item number two, do we meet your standards? I think Mr. Nuttall has addressed that, but we have engineer Mike Stocks here with Stocks engineering to emphasize that point. On whether the use will substantially injure the value of a Jason or a budding property. We have hired Molly Chisholm with Hilton Crowder Associates and High Point. Ms. Chisholm is sitting out here. She is here to testify if you would like for her to. But I can tell you in 30 seconds quite she did and you have her 43 page report. She did a standard paired sales analysis using the uniform standards of professional appraisal practice where you look at the sale of a use that touches or buts a type of use that's in question. And then within the same market, she looked at the sale of a comparable property using actual public data to see if there's a difference. And her conclusion is she can't find differences anywhere. And she tries to focus on residential because those have are the most sensitive types of uses there. On the issue with Harm harmony with the area, we do address this in our report, but the nutshell summary is this is nothing, but a teeny little bit of addition to what's already there throughout Dixie Drive. And on consistency with the land use plan, I don't get this privilege very often, but this could not be more squarely consistent with your land use plan. This is B2. We'll be two, within this red area squarely, and then when you drill it down to the small area plan, we are in the central area plan and it says the greatest development opportunities within the central planning area include new development in areas south of Dixie Drive in the crest future and Browers Chapel Road areas. In other words this is exactly where there's growth opportunities. I'm glad to answer questions. I do want Mr. Stocks to come up and address standard number two and anything else he would like. Is there any questions I can answer? Wait just a moment. Are there any questions of Mr. Terrell? Any from the remote? Any questions? Thank you, Mr. Chair. I may be the only one sitting in this room tonight that was here during the original long month. And I will tell you, that was a paintball or deed. So Reynolds was not exaggerating? Oh, no. And I think I had been on council maybe a year, just over a year. It was difficult. I was on the planning board at that time. It was the same version. I don't think anybody imagined a wall more or not being there, right? That's kind of the way it goes. For the purposes of our broadcast tonight, we'll ask Mr. Stocks to come in and be swallowing. You will ask him a question. Okay. He'll step back. He'll step to the microphone and speak directly into the microphone to answer your question. Then he'll step back. If it's okay with you, we did this so I would not even have to do that he's just gonna get his testimony but we do tender him as an expert in engineering on issues safety and compliance okay great I don't believe that qualified. Mayor Smith, members of the council, thank you for having us tonight. I am James Michael Stocks. My address is 801 East Washington Street, Nashville, North Carolina, 27856. I have a bachelor's of science and civil engineering degree from North Carolina State University in 1998. I am licensed in North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and I have over 30 years experience in land development residential commercial retail. I can provide my license information if that is needed or we can go on and move forward. I will continue. Basically I have spoken to Tom and we've gone through these so instead of I will answer in the form of a statement including the question in my answer. So it is my professional opinion that this request, this conditional use permit does not impede the orderly development or improvement of the surrounding properties. It is also my professional engineering opinion that this request of the conditional use permit is in general conformity with the town's ordinance policies and is that is applicable to this development. As a professional engineer, it is also my opinion that the site development will not be not just offensive by reason of any noise odor, dust, smoke, or any gas. And then finally, as a professional engineer, is my opinion that the Asheboro Commons Wal-Mart meets the requirements and the intent of the condition used permit outlined and to abide the city of Asheboro and the criteria for your approval. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have and go into any further detail about any one of those statements Thank you mr. Stocks. Do we have any questions for mr. Stocks? Anybody remote? Okay Thank mr. Mayor I will be here well done. Thank you Mr. Terrell would you like to bring them this children'szerman and let us at least have an opportunity to ask her questions? I'll just if I could stand back here to introduce who she is. Please. This is Molly Chilz, she's a licensed broker in North Carolina. She could be sworn in if you'd like to hear from her and she can go into great detail. Her 43,000 for four or not. So, do you? Whether she get more if we're swearing. She is not. It's good to have you here tonight. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions about the impact of the residential presence on the 43 pages that she submitted. If so, we'll swear her. If not, we'll move on. If that would be our press. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Terrell. Mr. Terrell. Yes. I apologize. Just for the record, does your client agree to the conditions that were proposed? Thank you, sir. If you'd like me to say this to be recorded, I would pledge this. Yes. Track Corner National, not only accepts those conditions, it proposes those conditions. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Is anyone else in the house tonight that would like to speak to the council regarding this request? Hearing none, we will move to delivery phase. Mayor, I move that we adopted the request having met four parts. Have a motion from Mr. Bail to approve this request. That's with the conditions. Meeting of the four parts. With the state conditions.'s with the conditions. Meeting of the four days with the state conditions. With the state of conditions. Do I have a second? Second. Second, Mr. Moffing. Any discussion? Here none. All in favor say aye. Opposed? On the remote.. Snugs, do you concur? Yes. Mr. Swerves? Yes. Ms. Carter? Yes. Thank you very much. Motion is approved unanimously. Thank you, Mr. Terrell, well done. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. That concludes our development. Community development. So it's down to upcoming events and items not only agenda. Mr. Mayor, just for the record, May 25th, the city offices are closed from Memorial Day. Hopefully we will be able to raise the COVID rules by the end and executive order. May we open city hall back up to the public routinely then. A Thursday, June 4th is the regular city council meeting. You will have your budget by then. We tend to get you the budget. The Friday, May 29th, when we do present the budget for the folks on the video, we do when we do present the budget to the council, it must be publicly identified too, advertised. So to protect the public's interest, the council doesn't get a sneak peek at it for the public does Okay, so the staff's doing that now Just for the on that to I'll follow up that Mayor Smith has been in contact and written letters to sent letters to Senator Burr, Senator Tillis and Congressman Walker along with the League of Municipalities requesting a federal assistance You will see that in the next two weeks in the national debate. And then the state of course has still 1.4 billion. I think left in reserve from the first CARES Act stimulus money. The county did receive a direct appropriation in North Carolina. Each county did. The cities do not, unless you're more than 500,000 people. Okay, so at this point we'll receive no federal assistance, but we don't run public health. We do run first responders, but we don't run public health. If you've not seen on the Randolph County website, they run a video every Tuesday and every Thursday about the COVID activities in Randolph County We had three hundred and six cases Today as of today in Randolph County with five deaths So COVID is still unactive so we encourage all the citizens out there at the bottom air Smith and Chairman prize guidance We hope things open up, but use your personal protective gloves Mask stay at home stay away from six feet, comply with the governor's orders just to have you see us tonight doing television. Thursday June 11th, we'll have a special council meeting. The finest director and I will go through the budget just for the folks out there and for the council. We are right in the middle of building our Zucity Sportsplex. Watch the city's website or Tom Allen. He's a videographer, flies the drone. He's on that doing videos. If you're tired to see other than the trees are all down and a lot of big equipment are out there. What's happening at Zoo City Sportsplex? Look on our website, watch our Facebook or look on Tom Allen and you can see it in action. Tom's been coordinating with Michael Leonard, our city engineer who's not here tonight due to the COVID regulations and Tom's Care Monster, our city surveyor and both the Councillor from Mayor with those. The public probably out there is two of those in and doings with the city on streets or engineering or public works matters. They're helping Tom describe what's going on. So it's very interesting. Please tune in. And then Thursday, June 25th mayor will ask you to call one more special meeting. That'll be at seven o'clock also for our budget adoption. That complies with, now there's been some changes in the city attorney when the city clerk were reminding me today. May 29th is the day you'll get your budget. We will still have one on file here with the city clerk. For anybody out there that wants to come see a hard copy it'll be on the website too but if you're going to see a hard copy it will be in the clerk's office. The general statutes to the just were approved about COVID and the CARES Act distribution of funds suspended the in-person on the city clerk. However we will continue to honor our own rules and as we've always done it in the past and it will be there. June the 11th, we'll have our public hearing and we'll do our presentation. And then continuing with our same policy, we'll adopt it 14 days later on June 25th. The general statutes did make some changes, but we feel at this point based on our current policies, it's just best we've followed the same old thing we've always done for the 20 years at least I've been here, probably the 30s including Mr. Leonard before me. So that will close out our fiscal year and we will begin July 1st. When the COVID, this epidemic or pandemic is close to the end, hopefully at the June 4th we'll have chief Summers come and explain the fire department's response. Some of those deaths we've had to run calls on and our pandemic response. So we hope we can get back to regular council meetings and regular back to business. I'll be glad to answer any questions before we close out tonight. John, is there a time for 25? Yeah, there'll both be at seven. Yes. So if people want to come, they can. Now, there'll be a lot of moving parts between now and June. I expect it'll be, I think the General Assembly goes back Monday the 18th. I think that's right. And I expect a lot of moving parts before the Congress, the Senate, sensation now, the House is not. The House is out. The House is debating whether they'll be able to remote in or not. So with all things Washington, it goes real slow, then it goes real fast. Usually when it goes real fast, it's 12 or 1 o'clock in the morning and we read about it the next day when the league sends us an update. Okay, so that's what we have in front of us mayor. If you're following the governor's orders and you've seen our parks, our trails are open. Our playgrounds are not when the governor lists that requirement. You can fish at lakes on our lakes if you maintain tassels, social distance, and you can play golf if you maintain social distance at the golf course. And tennis at our tennis center. If you maintain six feet, I think before we could get out there to tell you to maintain six feet, though you'd be spread back out. What actually one thing Mayor our golf course is open for walking only. We simply do not have enough carts. The private courses around are open and they have enough carts for one player per cart. We just don't have that enough carts. And on the nine whole course course we're doing just the best I can to keep our course in play. Just for the record. Thank you. And on the nine-hole coast, of course, we're doing just the best our can to keep our course in play. Just for the record. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Arbor. Good job. Once again, we all appreciate everything you do. And our finalist department, I know Water Billing has been under the gun recently, if everybody having to pay remotely in one way or another. Yes, so we do it. People out there, again, Mayor, part of the Governor's Order and the ordinance you adopted last month allows folks who may be struggling with COVID issues. We can work with them on a payment plan. We are having no turn-off fees, no disconnections, no late fees to deal with that. So we actually put that in place ahead of time before the governor's order. When we codified it last month, we did or two months ago, we did build it into the ordinance where the city manager, not just me, any city manager can put that in place and that exists through this COVID period. Thank you. I would like to add an additional comment to what Mr. Arbor said about Tom Allen's videos. I watched episode four tonight just before I came up here and it's amazing. If you followed him doing Highway 64 by pass for two years now, He is in his fourth episode of our sportsplex and the amount of dirt they're moving down there is I would encourage everybody to go online YouTube as first sportsplex or Tom Allen and watch that and he will have just about every day or two every couple of days he'll do a new edition episode. You really can't see it from the road. No, it's amazing what they're moving down there. So Mayor, just for folks at home watching and for the council, 300,000 cubic yards of dirt. So if somebody goes to the hardware store and one buys one bag of black cow or peach mark, that's one cubic yard. Think about that times 300,000 plus the equipment to move it. one buys one bag of black cow or peach mark that's one cubic yard think about that times 300,000 plus the equipment to move it so yeah yeah two cubic feet yeah 14 of those bags all right and I did want to very briefly say to the council that we're all aware of the tragic accident on the bypass, 73, 74 yesterday, a pursuit that ended poorly with the death. I would like to just tell the council that APD was not involved in the pursuit. We did some traffic control as the pursuit came through town, but we were not involved in the pursuit. We did some traffic control as the pursuit came through town, but we were not involved in the pursuit. And consequently, we did the accident investigation. That was our involvement. I'm proud of the people. Our guys declined to get involved in the pursuit as per policy. And in the end, it's just a tragic situation, but I want you to be assured that APD did follow their policy and we were not involved in the pursuit. So good job, APD. Colonel, pass those remarks to the long police. And that's all I have. So we'll start. Anybody in remote miss notes? Do you have anything to add tonight? Well, thank you for being with us tonight. I know this is inconvenient. Mr. Swairs I I'm looking forward to them growing and getting more beautiful. And I want to commend the city staff and the sunset having versions of the President's portion. Put it to build for the house. It's going to be a significant hash for the company to town. They are all the way down to the bypass now. And they will be beautiful. They are beautiful. Thank you, Mr. Soyers. Mr. Carter? Yes, sir. I think I have a comment in it. I've been getting a lot of calls with the service that the people who have their shopping. I want them to have not been out at all. I have to have a comment with the first of the story day in the last half-way. Now, this is your idea. And he has been back in from somewhere every time, but the number of people that aren't wearing masks, the home and the home. So, when he's a, you know, he just gets quite a fond of it when you're a cat freak, because of the alarm. I don't know what we can do. I've been at the business of staff, research the people on the ass that they wear a mask, they went to the Russian store for this one day and the other part of the wearer. And he said, you know, that, at least, he can push this, I'm going to have a mask on. And I'm so concerned that we're still on it. And we're end up killing. There's going to be a slight delay. It's connected. Say you're somewhere in. As would like, it may be if the paper could put in where people can buy these masks. Thank you. Thanks, Ms. Carter, for the comments. The Governor extends the executive order that we're following. Public health promulgates the order and our police work inside the city. So our police have been to those locations mentioned about people in distance and space and our fire inspections have to to make sure the square footage counts right. So if if people have concerns in its insid city they're welcome to reach out to Asperr Police Department or public health. Randolph Public Health either one of them will respond we have an officer that's just doing that, just so that. And our fire inspectors are well. Now Friday at five I believe the governor's order extends to 50% of occupancy. I believe that's right, so that'll be a whole different count. But again, if people have concern, they feel free to reach out to Randolph Public Health. They operating and it can be 24 hours a day down there, seven days a week. It's emergency operation center, occupied, like I said earlier, and they'll reach out to Ashburton Police to go and check to make sure the governor's orders are being followed. Thank you. Mr. Carter, you're absolutely right. I was in a conversation today with someone who was absolutely convinced that Randolph County was not taking this seriously. Many of us have ran off or not taking this seriously and that is evidence about the spike in the last week a huge spike in confirmed cases in Randolph. So we've got to get serious about the social distancing, following the rules and the grocery stores and the retail outlets and wearing our mask and protecting ourselves as well as everyone else. That is John? Yes ma'am. Can you tell me it was the last of the master uncle, man? I think that they came here. I think they're, I think they're still here. Yes ma''am I think they're limiting it to 500 Occupants which includes the employees not just emerged just not the shoppers customers but I Think their actual accounts like 605 they've they've it to 500. So that's a huge store. And when a regular time should go in there, except it's a huge store unless somebody standing right up beside you, reaching across you to get a section of bolts or lumber or light bulbs or something. So it does require some practiced, I guess, I said the other day we need to have the three P's, right, our PPE, our patients and prayers. That's what it's going to take to get out of this thing. So, but again, if citizens are concerned, feel free to reach the Randolph County Health Department, go right to the Randolph County Government webpage or the Randolph County Public Health webpage. It has the number right there and they'll in turn notify Ashbur a PD. It doesn't matter what time and we'll check it. Thank you. Mr. Eddie. Any comments? I'm going to say I did enjoy the Mayorsburg breakfast this morning. Much more abbreviated than what we used to. You would not point this as social, but it was thoughtful and what we needed. My hats off to vintage church, Max Smith, and our chairman of our group, Neil Griffin. They did a great job putting that together and pleased to be part of it. Mr. Bale. I can't say the food was just good. You have to sleep in a little bit long, great. Have to see the line of being repainted downtown for the part of the spot that you're getting inflated. Now I know where I can and can't fall in. And now we're going to get to North Street in a week or so. North Street is completely unmarked at this point because we just resurfaced it. Mr. Moffin. I hope the Mayor's prior breakfast service work was sexually well done. I complimented him on that. It was a very professional production and a movie message could have been better. I have our priors out for our medical researchers and our teens that we find some sort of answer to the virus and back to normal as best we can. Mr. Parks and while we're mentioning prayer I ask that you keep my sister in all Sherry and my little brother Mark in your prayers. Sherry is one of those 306th City Manager Ogburn said I've tested positive for COVID-19 in Randolph County. My little brother Mark while he did not test positive his doctor said it looked like a false positive they have the exact same symptoms. High fevers for long periods of time, aches pains very much like a really bad flu. Thankfully, there are no respiratory problems for either of them. And my brother, I talked to him before I came here and he said that he felt like he was doing better than she was. So it's easy to sit back and watch this stuff on TV, and go to the grocery store, and go to a loaise hardware, and reach across the aisle in front of somebody. But when it hits home, it's really real. This is bad stuff. And we need to take every precaution that we can. And our citizens here in Ashburden in Randolph County to really take this as a very serious matter. Because the next number 307 could be in your home. So take this heed very seriously. Thank you. Oh, this is time to school. January. I'll use your family or in our prayers. I'm so sorry. Staff, thank you for the accommodating us tonight. Mayor, just remind everybody that a Sunday's Mother's Day congratulations council member Redding council minister nugs council member Carter and our Dynamic City clerk go with their holly we couldn't do without you has been a tough time for you But you're on the other end you're a great mom to your family. So you got a you had a great mom still got a great mom in heaven and you're a great mom. Happy Mother's Day everyone and there's nothing else I will adjourn this meeting.