Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Dreamer, there's some seats on the front row. What happened when you get here late? I'm on 9 and give us an 8 man. All right. I will call this meeting to order. This is the Wednesday November 8th meeting of the Esper city council. And for those of you that might be wondering, we moved this meeting last year to Wednesday. It's normally on Thursday. Couple of things I'd like to say. Right. It's a celebration of Veterans Day. Yeah. Because of the Veterans Day celebration, as we can. Couple of things I'd like to bring up before we get into the official business. As many of you know, and if you voted, I appreciate you voting. We had a municipal election yesterday and we had three seats running, three incumbents and two challengers. We, two of our incumbents, Mr. Berks and Mr. Swayer, prevailed. One of our challengers prevailed and we will be coming up in December saying goodbye to a faithful and well-serving member of the council in Jane Redding. She has been a voice of reason and with her background in the legal profession, she has served as well. And she's never had a whole lot to say, but when she does, everybody up here can still listen and she makes good points. So, Jane, we will miss you. Thank you. If you will, stand and join me in a moment of silence meditation. This is a month of Thanksgiving. It's we should be thankful all the time, but particularly November brings that to the forefront and would ask that you pray in any manner that you feel comfortable and we will follow that with the Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you. I'll play the judges' judges through the flag of the United States of America and through the Republic of religious science, modern nation, modern God, and the visible liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Moving into the agenda, we have, if you have an agenda in your hand, item three in under old business, that has the applicant requested a continuation of this item to the December December 7th meeting. So if you're here for the land use case, RZ-2314, the zoo parkway, neighborhood proposal, we will not be discussing it tonight. This would be a good time for you to leave unless you just burning up with desire to hear what we talk. It's a great significance. All right. Let me also say that these meetings are live streamed on YouTube. If you address the council, there's a sign-up sheet on the lantern here. We would ask that you print your name and the purpose of that is so that when we transcribe the audio tape, that we get the spelling of your name correct because we don't always pick it up properly off of the tape. OK, so item three has requested a continuance. We need action on that. I'll entertain a motion to continue item three to the December 7th meeting. Mayor, I move your continuing item 33 December 7th. Thank you, Mr. Baal. Do I have a second? Second. Second, Ms. Heath. Discussion? All in favor of continuing item three to December 7th. Second Miss Heath discussion. All in favor of continuing item three to December 7th say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries item three is continued. And if you're here for item three, it will be discussed. At this point, we expect to discuss it on December the 7th. And I'm going to jump ahead here and tell you that item 10B, which is the subdivision on Allred Street. What's the name of that, Trevor? Temporary. That request has been withdrawn. For whatever reason we don't know, and they don't need to tell us, but it has been withdrawn. Was that signed to vote? Yes, absolutely. And that just means that they are afraid to file it, the request again, and at some point they probably will. So if you're here for timber ridge on the all-red street, item 10B, same applies. Now might be a good time to leave. But we welcome you to stay and see the business that is conducted by the council on your behalf. All right. Mayor, one more item. What about the council? Mayor, item 17, actually some real property for overflow, parking with grape, all park staff with requests that we move that, continue that to the December meeting as well. Okay. Do I have a motion to continue item 17 acquisition of real property for overflow parking and the career vault parking through another meeting? Some meetings, mayor. I have a motion by Mr. Moffitt. Do I have a second? Second. Second, Mr. Burke's. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. This item number 17 is moved to a later date. Would that include B as one? Yes, and B. Yes, yes. We need to restate our motion. We're going to treat it as item 17. begin in clues very good. Thank you for asking We're good. I'm very good. Okay now This is the appointed time for public coming at every meeting we have a Period at the beginning of the meeting where we invite the public to stand here and address the council on any items of concern or public or items of public business involving city and if you're here to speak to the council about anything like that now is your opportunity so I would invite anybody in audience that's here to address the council now is your opportunity. If you are not here to address one of the request on the agenda, if you are here for a request on the agenda, you'll have your opportunity a little bit later in the meeting. So no public comment. All right. We'll move on to. You come to the microphone. It's only a agenda, ma'am. Yeah, ma'am. You will when we get to the item. Yes, ma'am. All right. Item five. I'd like to call Linda Brown to the front. She is president of chairman of president now. We changed that a few years ago. President of the Ashbur Randolph Chamber of Commerce and has been for nine years. I don't know what I'm thinking. I still think of you the return you gave. Yeah. This brown came to Ashboro the first time a year back as director of the tourism development authority, our second director for that, and did a great job with that. And due to family commitments and whatnot, she left Aspera, but in her heart, she always felt like Aspera was where she wanted to be Beijing her husband Pat. And so they eventually worked their way back to Ashboro. And it is my privilege tonight to honor Ms. Bram and I'll give you the house I'm worried she ran the tourism bureau here in the Tampons. She has been in her career in hospital administrator, a tourism professional outside of the tourism development authority here. She made an IT executive, I do not know who she was, has served here at committee capacity over the years but I will name some babies and what not but she was vice-credits I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going But, you know, one person does not make all the difference. And when it had taken the Chamber that was in OK shape, and she has over these years, not in years, she has improved the cash position of the chamber by 100% she has improved the investment position of the chamber by 250% and she has I think there through no light. I do quote with the three elements. The balance sheet, I'm through the three hundred and thirty-sixth. So, I decided that this lady had made a huge difference in Ashboro, she served at the local hospital, she probably served only in one time or another, or been an advisor to me, many groups of the here. And she has just give me the title. Street Chief Planning is at the top of the line. Street Chief Planning is at the top of the line. Sounds like you're perfectly sure you put it in. And it is my honor to present to you the plaque that we started a few years ago, called the Ashboro Pride Award. Presented to end the round for the same service at the President of Ashboro, Randolph-J So they know you will have taken you to make it your present. I'm here. Excuse me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. As I wanted to say, it's thanks to the staff. You've also dealt with the membership in that amount of time. And it's thanks to the Board of Directors who have been all foreign and all the stemming support and it's part of my opinion. I really appreciate this. And I love it here. I'm going to speak highly enough about the city and everybody here, I'm just humbled and privileged. Thank you very much. You're welcome. We're proud. We love you. Applause. Thank you. Thank you. You teach me to make better notes. Okay. Item six. I will call on Ms. Reeves, our finance officer. And I'm going to ask John to make this recognition simply because Ms. Reeves actually works for the CD and actually works for John and she couldn't do what she does without John's blessing. So John, I'm going to ask that you make this presentation. Thank you, Mayor. I'm honored to and I'm honored to report to the public that for the 21st year in a row, I think that's the hall of fame record. The government finance officer's association of the United States of America has issued a certificate of achievement for excellence in financial reporting. That's the highest award they give to our finance officers, Deborah Reeves, for her vital role in the cities accounting and budgeting. We too have strong local government economy here, strong government banking and finance here, and we'll get the audit here in a month and a half or two months, and then we back in the budget process once again. So when you said, you could do without John's blessing, I think it's the other way around I think I don't think I can do it without Debbie's blessing. So, yeah, the city manager is lucky to have strong department heads, and obviously I'm lucky. And let's just say that Debbie's our, she's just one of our MVPs. And thank you for everything you do, and we're certainly proud of you. Thank you, David. Okay, I'd like to call on our esteemed police chief Mark Lombory. Mark has a resident mission and then we'll get into rest of the agenda items but go right ahead. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. I'd like to recognize Lori Johnson, if she'll come up. And Lori Johnson, it's definitely a honor for me to present this to her. She did 20 outstanding years in City of Asheboro. And I can say she done a lot of time in patrol and criminal investigations. And we're surely going to miss your experience, especially in criminal investigations. She investigated some of the brutal violent crimes in Asheboro for a lot of years. And the one case in particular is gone the court. It was a hard case and she inherited it down the road. But, and I mean people remember this case, but it was the murder of no robbers. And Lori took that case and she worked and she worked and she worked and she would brief me and hopefully I'd encourage her but she got a lot of encouragement and she kept on and then you finally get brought up to trial and got a conviction. And so, and a lot of people didn't think that could happen but I had all the faith in you in the world. And I wanna present her this plaque for her 20 years of service, and then also her found that she carried while she was on duty. If I can use that. But I can't say enough about her. You were sure, and we're truly going to miss her. She said she's not bored yet. So, in two months. I was just one month. And then the while I understand, you're trying to say, have you cashed a check? If you don't't cash to check, you could always come back. But if you cash to check, it's like a contract you're done. I held onto it for a week and now I'm asking. What do you think? That was your fault. I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say that I'm going to say So that you can't do what you do in those roles without the blessing of your family. And her husband Mark is with her tonight. And the hours are gone, the hours you have to work. It takes a toll on families and whatnot and or we're proud of you and we will miss you and wish you the best. Got your gun, you can go now. I'm sure in fact, the recreation service director, Mr. Sermon, you have a, to see sports. Very brief update. I just want thank you, Mayor Counsel. I just wanted to introduce you to the two gentlemen that we run the sportsplex for y'all. And then they're going to just talk quickly about our first large rental this coming weekend and Other upcoming events, but first we got mr. Ron McCoy. He's been with the city for seven years He's started with us as an intern and promoted a couple times and now he's your sportsplex facility manager and then Bryce Dahlke He's been here a week But he's your program coordinator. Now he has, I have to back up a little bit. He's worked with us for seven years during the summer while he's been in school. He's been a lifeguard force, worked all the way up through, and really impressed us in his interview with the things he's done in school and the extra curricular things. So I think we've got a couple of good guys running the facility for you. But Ryan, if you don't mind, come up and just give them a quick update on the tournament. And Ryan, you ever felt like you were thrown into the deep end of the pool? Every day. Thank you all for letting me come up here. So during the late summer in the fall, we have started renting out the facility and using it for various activities. We've rented it out to UR already chartered for their varsity soccer games This fall we've also been hosting practices and games for not only our partnering organizations But as well as the cities football flag football program out there And then this weekend we will be hosting part of the Adidas Clash Tournament as put on through NC Fusion Soccer. They initially wanted to use all eight fields, however, as you guys know, all eight aren't ready for use yet. So we are going to utilize all four fields that are available right now for the weekend. The entire tournament takes place at 10 different venues all across Peemont Triad. They have a total of 518 teams participating in all the venues. Here for the Zucity Sportsplex, we will be hosting 24 of those teams. They will be in the H divisions of boys 19 and under, boys 18 and under and boys 17 and under. The teams will be not only from here in North Carolina But we also have some teams coming in from South Carolina Tennessee and Virginia as well. So there's some regional travel coming in here Tournament will have a total of 44 games played on Saturday and Sunday Saturday your games are gonna start at 8 a.m. and they will be finished at 8 p.m. Sunday your games are going to start at 8 a.m. and they will be wrapped up probably about 3 30 to 4 o'clock on Sunday. We're looking forward to hosting these teams and working with NC Fusion. They've already inquired with us about being a host site for their annual events. They do one-a-quarter, so four per year. We hope that we can work with them and get that going and on the books for 2024. And then we've also been reached out to you by other groups and organizations about using the facility for tournaments, games, events. The next one being as early as possibly Saturday, December 2nd, I've been asked about possibly running a football tournament out there. We're gonna try to make that happen. And then multiple other organizations from LaCrosse, Ultimate, Frisbee, Soccer, they've all acquired about using the facility so just waiting on it for all to be finished and so we can start renting it out and get people on fields. Do you guys have any questions for me? Can we get a face casual? Some point. Yeah sure. Good job with business court. We haven't got a nose. That's special. Thank you. Yes. I'm going to pay tomorrow. Well, I've been promised about this. I think it's cross. Hmm. You don't have to pay tomorrow. Hmm. You always say not pay tomorrow. No, it's not. We're not. You're not doing it. Let me have one. It didn't look quite ready to me this afternoon, perhaps, at least. Let me have one thing to the information about this tournament. I understand and correct me if I'm wrong. And this fusion tournament that plays in 10 different venues around the Pima has booked 300 rooms. Yes, they have also gone with the pavement. That is what we built this park for. We're travel, tournament play where people will come to ask for rent rooms, use our restaurants by gas. I got to tell you that they we had to grant the opening or the ribbon cutting for the jelly stone camp ground two years ago or three years ago. There was a family there that was camping. Whose daughter was swimming in a national tournament in Greensboro at the Aquatic Center. And they just, they like to be in a campground, they like to be away and they were driving her to Greensboro and they were spending, when she wasn't swimming, they were actually spending time by the pool in the campground. So I expect this is going to help not only in our hotel rooms, but our campgrounds and our B&Bs, air B&Bs and that type of thing. And that is generally the idea behind the effort to build this. And this is truly one of a kind for North Carolina. I presume we'd have 48 things if the field were all filled, I would imagine. Yeah, yeah. And Mayor, just to add on to what you said along those same lines at the Downtown Business Immersion Association meeting on Tuesday, Atty Corp or the Executive Director shared that this was happening and the hotel rooms that have booked. So she's asked our downtown businesses to keep track of any uptick and business that they see this weekend. So we hope to have some anecdotal information about that. So that's another benefit too. Good. Any other questions around you? Have anything on share with us? No. Any other questions around you? Anything you want to share with us? Bryce, could you have you working with us now? You guys have gone up to you. I ball as an alligator for a while. And the big deal is going to be keeping the calendar straight. There are people all over the state trying to book, turn them at time or at the event time, to flag football, all these other things. Everybody's fighting for field time. And so you guys are going to, your baby's job is going to be keeping that calendar straight. Yeah, we'll straighten it out and get them out there. And everything has to come through. You or Bryce, is that great, Ryan? Yes, yeah. Any bookings, rentals, anything like that will have to come through us. Yeah. Proof. That kind of demand would need to be sure of maximizing our prox operate. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll work the premium. We'll find out after this weekend how much of a premium I think. What time do you say it? Be through playing Saturday. The lights are starting at 6. So they'll be done about 7.38 o'clock. I can plan what a light says for us. That's why we have turf and lights. Yep. Thank you. Thank you very much. Do I have anything else? Thank you. Appreciate your work. Thank you. Everyone, the guys are leaving up to say about brushing rhinos. I'd like to see young people coming in public in this too. Those big career employees like them. Okay. Okay. One of them might be sitting up here one of these days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Council, you have in front of your consent agenda. Is any item only consent agenda that you would like to remove for individual discussion or consideration? Bear I just want to remind you while you're here that if you look just remind the council that the Christmas parade's December 1st and then The next Friday December 8th is the downtown Christmas Doesn't seem like Christmas today down down Christmas. It doesn't seem like Christmas today. Maybe one or eight or two degrees, but uh, that's okay. It's down to start packing. It'd be cold by then. Yep. That's okay. That's the only staff comment about this consent. I'm merely, we have to answer. Okay. Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? Mayor, I'm going to approve the consent agenda as presented. I have a motion by Mr. Burke's. Do I have a second? Second? Second, Mr. Sawyer's discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. All right. Moving on to item 10 and you remember 10b was withdrawn. So Mr. Nuddle if you will introduce item 10a which I will open a public hearing on case number RZ-23-10. Thank you Mayor. This is an application filed as a result of the recent annexation of this property at the request of the landowner that occurred, I believe, two meetings ago. We'll be looking at property just east of 1766 W.O.W. road, about 400 feet west of an old Liberty Road. This application comes from the Lucas family owns this property. It is a request from the owner to place the property in the city's medium density residential zoning district. Currently it's what's in rural restricted or residential restricted county zoning through the county's land use ordinance. Just over one acre in size there is no development on the property and it's a single pin that we are looking at. You can see the property outlined in blue on the screen. Any colored areas on this map identify city zoning jurisdiction, either city limits or extraterritorial zoning jurisdiction. I think in this case all that property that we're seeing that is shaded with a color is within the corporate limits of the city. The application in front of you would take the property outlined by the blue boundary and place it into a yellow district just as those properties that have that R10 designation presently are zoned in the city. This screen identifies any adjacent land owners who would have received notification pertaining to this application. Map gives you an idea of the lay of the lane as well as infrastructure maintained by the city that's in the vicinity. We do have both water and sewer infrastructure available to this property. We can see those lines identified on the map. This is an aerial photograph. I'll give you an idea of the development pattern in the area. There is you can see a stream at the northern fringe of the property. We don't anticipate that that would have much of any impact on any type of land development that may occur. And this is a view of this subject property from a more of a side angle vantage point. There's a few photos looking at the subject property from W.O.W. Road and then from the other direction looking at the property. They have a view north west away from Old Liberty Road and then looking southeast back towards Old Liberty Road from near the subject frontage. As I said, this property was annexed. It does require the city to apply zoning to it. The roadway is maintained by NCDOT. It is a higher level, somewhat higher level capacity roadway. We preview it as a collector level road, not a local roadway. Prior to the cities, we're languishing our zoning jurisdiction, which we did about 10 years ago, where we returned land area back to the county's jurisdiction due to our forecasts in terms of what would ultimately develop within the city's jurisdiction. This property had been within that area of extracurricular jurisdiction. And as had a bunch of property also around it. At that time, the property was zoneed R40, a lowered density residential district. At this time with the utilities available and many of the other surrounding properties are Zoned R10 hence the application for that designation here this evening. The R10 district as defined by the city code is identified in number four there. It is a moderate intensity district. It does allow both single and two family development that is served by city and water and sewer, which is what you have in this instance. I note the majority of the residential properties in the vicinity are also zoned R10. And it's in a location that's near the intersection of Old Liberty Road and W.W. Road. If you look at your land use plan, that's identified as a small neighborhood activity center. There's presently some non-residential uses that support the residential area of the city surrounding it. And this property is in close proximity to what we had characterized as a growing, potentially growing mixed use type of land development area. We don't have a land development plan recommendation for this map or our present land development plan. Only makes recommendations within the current city zoning jurisdiction. So if you look at the plan, you'll not see a forecast for future land use. So we have to look at other goals and policies within the plan. And we believe there are at least three that support the request. We think it's consistent with the surrounding city zoning of like properties, which is our 10. For that reason, we present this application with a favorable recommendation to the council. Planning board also reviewed this case at its meeting last month and recommends approval of this item as well. I'll be able to happy to answer any questions if there are any mayor. Questions? Any mayor? Question? Okay, this is public hearings and everyone in the audience would like to address the council, right now regarding, excuse me, this request. Hearing none, I will ask the council for their thoughts. Mayor, based on the consistency of the statement provided by staff, I move the approval of the consistency statement of the consistent with that by the non-government plan. the system. Well, not our land development plan, but it's around in area. The building. The building. The building. The building. The building. The building. The building. We have a motion by Mr. Bell. Do I have a second? Sir. Second. Mr. Birx. Discussion? Second, Mr. Birx discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, like sign. Motion carries. Motion to approve item 10A. It's flavorable. I will open a public hearing on item 10C, which is RZ 23-day 17 request to resoning of property identified by two and okay, pen numbers with street addresses of North America with street, Liberty Street. Go right ahead. Thank you, Mayor. This is an application to move these properties from the city's general commercial designation and a portion of our ten residential zoning to entirely office and apartment zoning. The owner is the applicant on this request. That is Christopher Justin Hancock being represented by HR Gala Moore. There are two parcel numbers. If you total the acreage or land area on this, we're just under one acre in size. We do have two structures, presently vacant, in terms of that property at 645 North Fables Street, previously used for an office, as well as a residential use previously. The two parcels are shown in blue on this screen. I'm gonna zoom in blue on the screen. I'm going to zoom in just a little closer. They're A1 and A2 and outlined in blue. That red color on the screen identifies the general commercial corridor along Fayetteville Street. Pretty much from the southern limits to the north and the vast majority of the property with frontage on a US 220 business is zone general commercial. You can see it moves to residential to the west and we have some industrial zoning on the east side of the roadway there. Again, any lettered parcel on this map would have received notification regarding this public hearing this evening. And I will say we've also posted the property and run the advertisement in the paper as required by State Statute. This property is just outside of what's identified as the downtown or the center city planning area which has some additional design standards and development requirements for the downtown area. This is just beyond that area where you see colors on this map that would be the northern limits of that what's considered the downtown or center city planning over lake. So that when this property whatever happens it will be subject just to the whatever zoning district it is in at that time. I see the topographic utilities map. I see the properties in the city and we have the full array of city services presently serving the properties. You can see the development patterns here, there's residential uses to the west. You see that industrial and medical to the east and south there, and then the commercial corridor along Fayetteville Street. A little bit of a different vantage point here, with our parcels essentially in the center of this map. It's hard to see, but does say subject property right right about Liberty Street. This is a view of the property as seen from North Fayetteville Street. You can see commercial land use to the North there. We're looking at the property now from Liberty Street. See a residential dwelling. We're looking north now in North Fayetteville Street from the frontage of the property and turning around now looking south. This is a view west away from Fayetteville Street on Liberty Street. You can see the neighborhood that is adjacent to the property and then the land used on the east side of Fable Street which is obviously non-residential. Just quickly as we evaluated this application, US 220 Business or Fable Street is state-maintain major third-fair, does carry a high-volume traffic. The city actually maintains liberty street as a local residential street. We've put the existing zoning district descriptions in the report and up on the screen here. Again, we've got some more 10 and some B2 zoning on the property. The request is moved to move this into a mixed use zoning designation at the city offers and that's what's known as office and apartment. So approval of this application this evening would permit both single two family very limited perhaps multifamily development on the property, but also would open it up to office and institutional uses and similar limited commercial uses. I think the key element of this application is that reintroduces a residential component back to these properties where presently it does not have that option. Under the city's codes for property that's under 45,000 square feet in size There is a limit on the number of residential units that can be developed on on that size property We also point out in the in this district the OA6 district that's requested They're your heavier commercial uses such as your retail, vehicle repair, or not activities that would be permitted. Should the property be placed in the district, they are, those are activities that are permitted under the current designation. So we look at the public records for the property, got structures built somewhere between 1925 and 1935. We do have land use recommendations for this property. They essentially recognize what's the existing zoning that's on the ground for the corridor along Fayetteville Street. So it's envisioned to continue to be developed with commercial uses. It isn't in a primary growth area that we expect to continue to be of interest. I believe there's overwhelming support for this application to introduce some residential possibility to this property while taking off the table the option of more intensive commercial uses that might be more disruptive to to those existing neighbors to the west so We recognize that this application doesn't comply with the mapping portion of the land development plan which is calling for commercial Development but we think it is the location and the development pattern supports an application for office and apartment. Considering those factors and all factors, we are supported at this half-level of this application. Planning Board reviewed this at its meeting last month and also sends us to you with a favorable recommendation. If there are no questions, I'll turn it over to the public speakers Mayor. Questions? Oh there's a meeting with the people over here. All right this is a public hearing is anyone's audience who would like to address council regarding this request. Mr. Mayor, City Manager, Council Member, thanks for the opportunity. I represent Christopher Hancock on this request. If you're familiar with these properties, they were formerly Ticer Insurance Company. I think you remember they utilized these properties for insurance office, at least one of them, possibly two. We can't quite get the gist of that. These homes were built in the 20s, 30s. Got a lot of characters set above grade. There's frankly, we see this quite a bit. These homes are too nice to tear down. There's a lot of pressure and need for residential properties. The beauty of OAS6 command the city for having this classification. It gives us a flexibility to oscillate between offices and residential. We see a lot on Coch Street. We've seen that literally all the way down Coch Street. The buyer, Mr. Hancock has a buyer, Mr. Dorothy Barnes. They've done a good job in placing nice homes and bringing tenants in. I think it's in good keeping with the neighborhood. It does not restrict the commercial use as it pertains to offices and so forth, so that's still available to the public and the ability to oscillate does help a good bit in that regard. One thing I would like to mention OA6 does allow apartments. I'm glad the Trevor mentioned due to the size of this property in the event everyone did decide by right to put apartments there it'd be limited to more than four. I don't see that happening, but ever is a long time. Any questions? Thank you. Questions? It should someone have some concerns that they'd be glad to step back up if they do. Thank you. Anyone else in the audience? Do you sign the book? I did. I'll print it by the end. Thank you. Did you use the large font? He makes all the way because of what it's still here. Nobody else? Okay. Council? Mayor based on the consistency statement provided by staff and favourable recommendations. I have a motion by Mr. Bell to approve. Do I have a second? Second. Second, Ms. Heath. Questions and discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, like so. The request for item 10c is approved. Okay. Mr. Noto, it looks like this is going to be your night. You can use that way, sir. I'm a lady in the night. I'm 11th bit worried about the community development of grant funding for neighborhood revitalization. Thank you, mayor. I'm going to just briefly introduce this item. I will have assistance from Mr. Bob Lawler with the Ashborough Housing Authority and Andy Scott who is assisting the housing authority in preparing this application that seeks funds to preserve and renovate Casper and Holmes as an affordable housing facility for seniors. So I'll just quickly review that. Following the public hearing, we have prepared a resolution for your consideration that would authorize the city to apply for an application to the State Department of Commerce for this grant. Now that would just authorize us to apply. There would be additional steps down the road. Should the city receive this award as we would be working with the housing authority on the details of that funding. But this is a consideration for the city in working with the housing authority to seek funding that would allow Waman Homes Incorporated, which is the nonprofit affiliate of Ashbro Housing Authority who owns Casponsomes, to use that funding to maintain Caspin Homes in a way that it would allow to continue to serve that useful purpose into the future. This is a particular program under the community development block grant system, which is envisioned to provide specific neighborhood revitalization assistance, unlike other categories of community development block grant that may provide economic development or infrastructure or funding for projects, this is specifically for neighborhood revitalization. Many of you, if not all of you know, Caspon is a 50 unit independent living development facility located at 945 South Church Street as I said it's owned through an affiliate of the housing authority it does serve families 55 years and older who earn 60% or less of the area's median income which does qualify it as an affordable housing facility. It was built in 1998, so there has not been, while there's been regular maintenance, there has not been significant upgrades necessary for the facility, and that's what this funding seeks to do. Work could include new siding, insulation windows, rehabilitation of porches and decks, some other repairs, new carprating, new flooring, importantly replacement of heating, ventilation and air conditioning, as well as water here and some new security features and other miscellaneous components that are deemed important to maintain the facility. This is an application that would request a loan through that program, but it would be done so in a manner that provided the terms of that were upheld. It could be deferred and forgiven, or assigned with low interest, the housing authority has indicated that they would prefer not surprisingly the deferred forgivable loan as a part of this project. So I'm gonna turn it over to them, they can speak in more detail about the application. I will say this is a public hearing. So following their comments, it would be appropriate to open it up to anybody else who wishes to offer input. Thank you, Mayor. This is the third time we've come for Council regarding the Caspon Homes and the Community Development Block Grant, neighborhood revitalization grant. The Board of the Housing Authority has given us authority to ask the City Council to make this application for the renovation of Caspin Homes. Trevor went over the proposed activities or improvements of the project, which includes exterior siding, new windows, work on the decks, staining, new carpet, possible new security cameras, electronic entry, and a few other things. We would be asking for the maximum $950,000 for the grant, and we've done needs assessments through our architect and asking contractors what the prices would be. Of course, nowadays, what's the price of something three months down the road is anybody's guess. Since we talk with you back in June, and then at the public hearing and the first public hearing in September, we've asked for letters of support from a number of organizations in the county. The Randolph County Board of Commissioners has submitted a letter of support so as the Randolph County Senior Adults Association and the Randolph County Housing Coalition has also supported the project. We talked to the North Carolina Housing Finance Agency who owns our mortgage for a support letter. Their policy does not allow them to support competitive grants, but they did hope that Casped Homes would be successful so that additional money could be invested in affordable housing. On October 25th, we had a public information session at Casper. We sent letters out to all the adjacent property owners and all the residents of Casper. We had about 15 residents attend the meeting. We talked about a number of things, provided information on the history of Caspi, a description of the property, a description of proposed improvements, and we reviewed the Community Development Block Grant program, had a Q&A session with the residents. As Trevor mentioned with the block grant program for this type of project, we don't get a grant, it's some form of a loan. And we do request that during the or as part of the application, we have the deferred forgivable loan, which would be over a period of years, forgiven and go away. But like I said, it's the third time we've been here. Andy Scott, who is with Wolf River Consultants, is working on the application for us as to the 15th next week. And he's got information about the application, I'm not sure that my printing is any better than my cursive, but I'll give it a try. Robert and Trevor have done a really good job of filling you in with the details. So I've left with Trevor a copy of the executive summary of the grant that he will provide each of you. So I'm going to really say the only thing I'm going to add is one of the reasons you're asking for housing authorities asking for a deferred forgivable grant is because in order to perpetuate the affordability, the debt structure on the property cannot take on more debt without having to intern the rights. We want to try to keep the rents in the same general affordable range. So that's the reason that they're asking for that. The one downside of working with the federal government on the community of all the block grant program is that there's lots and lots and lots of rules and lots and lots of regulations. So as part of this grant application, I want to point out to you that the intention is for your planning and community development department to contract with Piedmont Triad Regional Council to handle the compliance and some of those issues That is played for out of the grant Covered in the grants administrative call so that if there are any other in-depth questions So anybody has I'll be glad to answer them with about one point one million dollar project probably talk about 18 months and me in dollar project probably take about 18 months and at this point $950,000 of which would result in a grant of $850,000 as being applied for the remaining $14,000 or so come from women's homes reserves. This will not entail any Ashbur City violence right. None at all. There's no matching funds requirement. And all of the administrative piece other than some of Trevor's time will be compensated to the administrative, not $50,000 that you're allowed to put toward administrative cost. Is there a target date that you would receive an answer? Are we going to receive an answer? We should receive an answer by the end of the year. And there will be a lot to do once you receive the answer because at that point you will be asked to pass an agreement between you and Waimut Homes authorizing the loan and the terms of the loan and the agreement as well as a contract with if you can go forward with PTRC with them for the handling of the compliance issues. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. This is public hearing. I think one audience with large Council regarding this proposal. Now is your turn. This is my first meeting, so I don't know how it works. And I'm not picking on the... We have people who have regularly that don't know how this works. I have a few I have two say to pictures to hand out to the commissioners that's all I want to do that or could I do it? What's your name? My name is Mary Ann Hyatt. I live at 9.45 South's Church Street, apartment 103 in Ashbrook. I actually live in the Casper building and good evening to everyone by the way. I am here tonight regarding Wayman Homes seeking approval for their application. I am all in 100% as a resident. I'm a lowly resident, but I wanted to come and give them support. As a resident, I've been there nine years. I love it. I love our small community. And there is, I am here because I don't have the actual application. So I do not, in our public meeting, we got bullets, bullet points. And Bob was describing which what would be involved in those bullet point boys So these items may be in the application or they may be just something that was looked over First I want to compliment Ashford Housing Association because their management for Caspon has to be very big job. It's got to be a big job and they do their very best in being fair to all the residents keeping us safe. So I salute them all. Who all is here from Casbah, I mean from Ashworth Housing. But also we have a top notch maintenance crew team. Both the management and the maintenance team is certainly something to brag about. So I'm here to brag about them. Again, I do, I am pulling for them to get this grant. But the purpose that I'm here tonight is we have, there are two items that I would propose that would be in this application. And it's for the security and the safety of the residents. We have a backyard and we have four glass doors that come off of, or you go into a community room very close to the lobby, in the first floor, and there's four glass doors. I've been there nine years. On and off, I've been a smoker. And this is the only place that you can smoke on the property as a gazebo in the backyard. But the gazebo is not just for smokers. It's for anybody that wants to read a book, have some peace, listen to the birds, whatever they would like to do. And they do. Visit with neighbors, visit with family, so on. And they say we're allowed to go out there night or day. I propose that those ends of the backyard need to have a street light. It's very, very dark on one end. If you go out the deck, you go out the glass doors to the right. The end of the building is pitch black. So as you go towards church street to walk around and get to the side, build a side door. There's an area that's pitch black. And so the street lights, I feel like, well, greatly deter any crime or people cutting through the yards that are not supposed to be there. The second item and by the way, the yellow air is where I would like well, I propose that the straight lights would be useful, very useful and deter any possible crime. The second item, please see the orange box for the location of the glass doors. And that's leading out to the back door. I am urgently, urgently asking that one of those glass doors, there's four of them, are re-keyed, meaning changing the lock that matches the other three entrances they call the side doors and these are the little blue boxes in the picture. So I feel like this is the safest and closest access for the residents and they should be allowed to come in the closest access because there are different things that happen with seniors, there's different things that happen in our community. And as a matter of fact, we had a flyer from Ashborough housing on September, I think the September 28th, I habit at home, I forgot it. Where they were announcing to the residents that the crime rate is heightened and the homeless population has grown. And if we saw anything to please call 911, let them know, let the on-site manager know he's there. And I appreciate that. But the second paragraph kind of made the whole in Oxymoron because here we are here. This notice talks about high crime and labor population in homeless and people and so on. They have changed their policy from being able to go out one of the glass doors. I've lived there nine years. I had permission from Stephanie and so on for years to go out one of the glass doors, keep it a jar, go to the casino, come back, close it, and it would lock. I'm glad that they want that door locked. Now, you know, and I'm trying, you know, I'm not here just for myself. There's other residents that would not come for fear of being evicted. Senior citizens sometimes have a lot more fear than the younger people, because it's hard to find low income or subsidized housing. And like I said, I am fortunate to be living there and I feel a lot of my neighbors feel the same way. In that, the reason why I think, you know, so we can't go in, back in, we can go out in, back in, we can go out the glass doors day or night. And I'm outside a lot at night, I haven't saw me. There's lots of people that come out at night, not lots, but many of us. And with that dark areas, that's the reason I would like to see the, what do you call it the light the you know to be in style but also By not allowing us to come back in a glass door is Causing us to Okay, on your picture you'll see where the four glass doors are and there's a deck So they're saying close the door lock is locked you can't go back in there The only way that you can come back in the building is Walking the length of one side of the building and go to the side which is like between you and me To church Street or to the sidewalk to church street. Very, very close. And there are many things that are dangerous, potential danger, and I read them down, but I'm just gonna remember them. You know, as seniors we may have a medical event. We may have just been, we may have a medical event. We may have just pain. We may have disness. We may just have a bathroom problem. We may just need to get back in the building fast and to have to walk that length and go in a side door. I think is asking a lot of us a lot. Also, we have wild animals. We have foxes and raccoons. And I have been out there. They have approached me. I have quickly read inside the glass doors. If I had to run down, well, I couldn't run anyway because I've got a bad hip. But to, yeah, the length of the building and around the side door, which is pitch start at the door, I may not be able to run fast enough. It was a sick animal. There are, I have all kinds of, you know, okay, the crime rate going up. Even after or if these lights are put up, danger is gonna come from three ways. It's gonna come from the church street area, it's gonna come from the woods, or it's gonna come from the other ends of the building. And if you're sitting out there at eight o'clock or nine o'clock at night, or now five'30 when it gets dark and a possible danger is walking away whether it be people you don't know coming off the street whether it be animals whether it be a lightning storm. That's happened to me many times. I've been sitting out there and a quick lightning storm comes up in that clath of thunder. I get running back up. You know, I had to walk the links of the building in a lightning storm. That's that's just not a very fair thing to make residents do. And you know why the orange doors are exit only a very fair thing to make residents do. And... You know why the orange doors are exit-only and not entry-exit? Bob Water made that decision. And he let us know in the public planning or public meeting that from now on you cannot go through those doors. You can go through those doors, but you cannot come in. And they just purchased a brand new, beautiful white picnic table that sits on the deck this far from the glass doors. Even if you're used in the picnic table, and we have a kitchen to use as well, right there. Then if you bring in food out in, or plates plates or whatever, does that mean these people cannot keep the door jarred so they can give that in? Re-keying the lock is very inexpensive. It may not even need to be in this application. But we all have keys to what they call the side doors. And what about the blue squares? That is what they call the side doors. We all have keys after 9 o'clock the glass doors in the front close and so we use our key to get in. But if we're out in the backyard, they would re-key one of the glass doors to match the other locks, we would not need an extra key. The expense would only be the lock itself. And the residents would be safer to have a closer access back in the building just in case some of these things. I would certainly think we could explore that. There's a two-hats. And you discussed any of these suggestions with the staff. Yes, I have. In the meeting. All right. There are applications. The project details specifically says new security features, including cameras and other improvements. Oh, that's me. We have found that Mr. Lawler and his staff are very amenable to work with us and we will be meeting with them a couple more times. We will address these issues with them. Okay. They are certainly not out of a reason the two area lights back there. That is really close to the woods, I was at myself. And obviously Bob had a reason to want that door locked. But we will bring that up. We will encourage them to work through this issue and get some lights put up and make this a little safer. I certainly wouldn't want my mother living out there. Sir, even if they put the lights out there, they do not re-lock one of those doors. There's no potential danger coming from the deck where the glass doors are, but the potential danger is three other places. This certainly sound reasonable and we will certainly address that matter. Thank you so much. Thank you. I appreciate it. Is anyone else in the room that would like to address the council on this proposal. Okay. Mr. Nower, you have a resolution prepared that we can adopt a reference. There should be a resolution under agenda item 11 that is available for adoption by reference. Yes, sir. All right. Council. There I move we adopt a resolution by reference, after I've seen sitting to a platform CDBG neighborhood revientization grant. Do I have a second? Second, Mr. Suiars's motion by Mr. Bale. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, the light's on. Motion is approved. Okay, 12 a. You want a brief. Yes sir. These are real quickly. These are just two announcements we wanted to publicly make and Chair Council is aware of. The first regards are initiation of the 2023 urgent repair program, which most of you know, this is a homeowner occupied repair, forgivable loan program for very low income residents in the city of Ashbro that we have administered twice over the last ten years. We were successful in getting funding for this program through North Carolina Housing Finance Agency earlier this year. We have started disseminating information pertaining to this program and what the rules are most of which are consolidated on a flyer that we have which is available online through the City's homepage at aspronc.gov. Come Monday the application for this program will be available both at City Hall here and also online so we wanted to get information out to the folks about what they would need when it comes time to apply. But those applications will be available for owner occupied housing repair assistance come Monday. We expect to do 11 homes here in the city. The maximum repair cost is approximately a $10,000 limit. A lot of times we're doing roofs and HVAC systems. But we'll look at any type of repairs that are needed to keep residents safe and from having to relocate from the home that they own. So there are qualifying criteria. We'll review those with applicants, many of which you have already started calling us but Monday is the start of that program. I'll move right into item B on this agenda item. We also wanted to announce that on this coming Monday from 3 to 6 p.m. at the Ashborough Recreation Center. Of course, that's located at 148 North Street. We'll be having an informational session to present information informally to the public about the proposed infrastructure project for Trade Street and a short segment of North Street. Again, we'll be in the Recreation Center in the multipurpose room from three to six along with the design team from Wooten to talk about the purpose of this project, what we expect to have happen should it move forward. We are just past halfway design. So there are some decision points to be made. There will need to be authorization from council in the future to move this project forward. But we wanted to give folks an opportunity to learn about this project at this point in the process. So we will, the project seeks to replace existing underground lines, water and sewer that the city maintains which are aged and obsolete and we're worried at risk of breaking at any point as well as some aged third party utility infrastructure that's in that road that we're encouraging to be replaced as a part of this project. Doing that excavation allows us the opportunity to investigate burying all of the overhead utilities that are in Trade Street and on that segment of North out to sunset. And so that's the purpose of this workshop is to talk to folks about why we want to do it. We recognize that there will be some disruption along with that project. Anytime we're going to be working down there, the street will have to be closed. And we know that there will be some impacts. But we want to talk with people about how we plan to minimize that and get ideas from folks about the best way to proceed with this project in a manner that is not harmful to them as business owners or property owners. We think most of us agree it will be a terrific project at the end. We just got to get through a little bit of the pain to make it happen. So, Monday, three to six at the Rec Center, the project staff will be there to share information. Thank you, Mayor. Welcome. Thank you. All right. John Ogburn's up now to give us an update on the right hand. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, Mayor, I just want to report that you were here last month, or else, watch the video last month. I was not here. I was at the International City Management Association meeting in Austin, Texas, and put the three classes on homelessness and opioid abuse, so let's you know right there that it's a national issue. And I put together a constant of lessons learned and what we've adapted in our program, and I just want to catch you up. So homelessness is primarily a result of physical abuse, substance or abuse or mental illness people normally don't choose it. To effectively navigate this program program local governments must attend to connect and or connect homeless persons to the services offered. The highlights of the meetings were one you have to keep homeless people on their feet don't let camps being built or occupied don't let homeless people occupy abandoned buildings junkyards, scrapyards, boatyards, etc. No occupation, camping, home setting, and other facilities and properties can be accepted or tolerated. Law enforcement and code enforcement officers must be aware of services available and how to connect homeless people to this service provider. What's requested with the court system, with the DA's office to ensure that almost persons, target crimes, with a way to trial, must be monitored and maintained with the court officers for the probation and parole people. The both the letter and spirit of law must be enforced, trespassing, private property, or public property, coding enforcement, zoning violations, trespassing, private property, or public property, code enforcement, zoning violations, outdoor burning, and moving homeless folks out of the jurisdiction is except a response to each of public safety requirements of your community. Now, we are doing that now, and I want to thank our code enforcement officer Chuck Garner and Angel of Polito, the navigator with social services who works with Chuck. They are trying to connect these people with services and we are working hard to do that. We work back to working every day to do that. Now, the program recognized a Mesa Arizona program. Now, the program recognized a Mesa Arizona program. Now, in North Carolina, it's important to understand that local government activities functions are bifurcated. The city does traditionally what's known as hard programs. That is hard services. That's the police fire department, streets, water, sewer, street lighting, sanitation, parking recreation, libraries, counties in North Carolina do what's called soft services or human services. That's going to be mental health, social services, physical health, health department, the court system, schools, etc. So what these folks did in Mesa was they created an office, the streets program, OTS, and that was to tell them they're most vulnerable and unsheltered to coordinate population. They helped create a housing plan, be connected to services and become self-sufficient. So in Mesa, the town, Baltimore and Rennet, abandoned hotels, and used them, created the Infra-Temporary Housing Programs and included wraparound services. Those are the services that you've got to connect to homeless people too, including transportation, health care, drug counseling, job interviews, computer services, because anybody could have a paper job application lately by single of those. Those type of things, and you've got to have a community safety approach and good neighbor strategies. Now I'm not saying the city should do this. I like to put to the public in a remind the council that the city, the cities in Randolph County are a part of the opioid settlement with the state and the federal government. However, the money does not come to the county to administer and manage, because we're not in those human services, as I mentioned. So if the county or some agency they want to fund wants to operate a housing program, this is the way to do it. If you operate a homeless shelter, traditional housing, temporary housing program, this is the way to do it. If you operate a homeless shelter, traditional housing, temporary housing facilities, you gotta have what Macy's learned and what they've been recognized in our profession for is have a lived experience in peer support personnel. That is so crucial. If somebody has made it out of homeless back into life, and that is first really how you connect with that person. You got to have case management there with client access services to stabilize and begin receiving those services. You got to accept certain pets. Now if we are home owners, the apartment dwellers, and we have a pet, can you imagine how connected those are? It seems simple, but people will not go into the shelter without pets. You need to provide each client and that's where the management comes to develop a housing plan when they can leave the facility. If there's nowhere to go, they won't even start the program. You've got to have standing rules and requirements in there, how you get in and what the rules are. You cannot stay more than 90 days and it's got to be a closed campus. That means it's not open for visitors to public. Just people who have a reason to be there should be there. You also have to have a good neighbor policy. That includes a dedicated law enforcement officer is on site 24, 7, 365, just like the hospital does. You cannot have Wal-Krub or drop in services. The Clinton will maintain campus, as the Justice the Lady just mentioned about. I asked the phone to outdoor areas for people who participate. You so only put aered from the surrounding community. Prinke will run checks to ensure safety and program for months. May still recommends a 10 p.m. per few. No visitors allowed without permission or monitoring. Transportation to all campus, rep around services. Phone numbers, need mails to provide to the area neighbors and the police so they can connect with city and facility management. So, I want to bring to the, for the Council tonight, that this is a national problem, which is not a local problem, but the opioid problem is a national problem. The opioid substance abuse problem is a national problem. The opioid substance abuse problem is a national problem. And the hopeless homelessness, which is driven by hopelessness, is a national problem. So I wanted to bring this just to the council. We've had one opioid task force, and I'm sure we will have another one. And we will report this to the opioid task force, the community. But I just want to say I want to thank the efforts of Chuck, Captain Wagner, and the back of the Asperer Police Department. See, some are in chief, caught men for the Asperer work with the Asperer Fire Department. Our performing these programs, our first goal is to make them connect with services. That's the long-term solution. If I just wanted to let that know. All right, and then additional programs, drug counseling, treatment, transportation, social and mental health services, veterans benefits. Yes, there are. Here we are on Veterans Day. And our veterans, veterans, and the homeless veterans and our eligible services. A lot of them are addicted to opioids because of PTSD and battlefield stress and housing or policy choices. Not at our level, but for our partners and our local partners in County government and health care. So again, the mayor and I will give this to the commissioners and that's where I will just want to get the council up to date it on that mayor. Okay, great news. I'll just, just on the side, I believe it was last month that Mr. Garner gave a briefing to the council. He left here and went to a camp that he had turned with that last month before. Left here went to a camp. He had closed that day. And while he was standing there, a guy comes in with all his stuff, planning to spend the night and took, say, well, I don't know where you're going to stay, but you can't stay here. And the truth of that matter is that guy wanted to get home to Thomasville or somewhere Lexington. and did never ride that night. He had been released from detox about 10 o'clock and he showed up up at 10.30 and next morning he got a ride back to I got even touched with one of the organizations. Yep, yep. But that's where he was gonna spend the night Understood with that's part of the that's part of the opioid task force that Chuck and I an American mayor all done well. We don't know exactly the time the service providers to Public safety show They should probably safety. Show the tank lock. You kicked out of the tank lock. That appears and we were told that we're taking them home and they're not. So anyway. But in that's the case, we connected that person with the service program. Yeah. Chuck sent him over to see, lady that has a transport van and she took them home the next day. Took them back to the accident. That was an easy one. We had people here from Wilman, turning all over. So, um, all right. John, thank you. I'm glad y'all talked about that, your international manager or national manager, John, thank you. I'm glad y'all talked about that at your International Manage or National Management meeting. That was very timely Thank you 14 I can't get that house. Get light. Okay, Chief Summers. Come on down. Good evening. Good evening, Jim. It's always a pleasure to be before you this evening. And the apparatus that you see before you this evening is a quick response vehicle that will enhance service delivery, maneuverability, flexibility, and operability, especially during storms when it's not practical to respond with a ladder truck or an engine truck. The quick response vehicle can operate effectively and efficiently with five to five products which will assist with distribution of personnel. In addition, it would increase the longevity of our apparatus fleet by using the quick response vehicle to respond emergency and non-emergency incidents, which will reduce the wear and tear on our engines and ladder companies. We are experiencing a significant increase in our call volume. For example, in 2021, we responded to 3400 calls. However, in 2022, we responded to 5,045 calls for service. 2023, we are on page through match, or even at C in 2022 call for service. The quick response vehicle will also carry an assortment of rescue tools and EMS tools, which will enhance our rescue operation and our rescue capabilities. Currently, we have two louder trucks in the city a 1998 which is 25 years old and a 2021 with over 22,000 miles. That's a significant amount of miles on a 2021 apparatus. NFPA recommends placing apparatus 15 years or older in reserve status and apparatus 25 years are older we need to retire. So as you can see a 1998 is due for retirement. We did better than that with our latter truck. I mean, you got 20, 25 years in chief. This is so true. As of today, we have spent 33% of our apparatus maintenance budget. That's why it's essential that we put this quick response vehicle in service. It will help reduce that maintenance cost over over the long run. In summary, a quick response vehicle will increase the longevity of our fleet, enhance service delivery, and reduce operation costs. And, Jim, are there any questions? On your medical calls, this two man group can respond. It's near the engine or the ladder truck in the four man group. This is absolutely four five five five five four five five yes. And what we're seeing throughout the country is a lot of other municipalities are now employing quick response vehicles. I know it's ASFIO, but the city of ASFIO just purchased three quick response vehicles. And how many, do you remember how many opioid abuse, drug abuse, Narcan calls for the Rand last year? It was approximately 54, if my memory served me correct. Which is one a week? Yeah, approximately, yeah, one a week. We can come in on ladder company. Yeah. It's fine to that. Where will this be based? It will be our station at station one. We'll run it out of station one. Because right now we're just an upsized pickup truck. Sorry, second. He's a pickup truck that's spend upshoddened outfaded or this. If it's essentially 505, this is 505. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a big pickup truck. Yes, yeah. So small two-country, we run a lot of and they give great sharp. They're very heavy duty for their shots. Yes. Chief, just a quick question. Yes. The rating that we just received that we're so proud of, while having this vehicle help us to maintain that rating. Yes, it would help with distribution of personnel. And so it will help with maintaining that ISO-1 rating, which is essential to the community. So thank you. If Chief, at one point in time, would the to be made when we have the piece of vehicle equipment, to roll this vehicle as opposed to a larger planet truck or whatever. Currently we are working on SOG's standard operating guidelines in terms of when we deploy the quick response vehicle. So we are working on that as we speak. And that will be determined in-house or by 911 or no. That's in-house, that will be determined by the command staff on exactly how we will utilize this vehicle. Okay. Any other questions? Chief, man, I do have... It worries me a little bit about... You're going to set... You're course you'll station... You'll put it to main station. That's correct. But, you know, if you get a mercy call on North Ashbrough, I mean, that's a long way to like call road and... And some of our streets are... Are area and then north end of town. That's a real long run. So I mean like you got a cardiac call or something. I mean you would just write you'd run a red or fire truck from North Asper right. It's something like that. I mean. Oh absolutely. I just don't want North Asper to get left out on this. It really seemed good to have one at North Asper and here. Of course I never told on my price and not that. But, what about Cuba? Well, I mean, I don't mind spending a lot of money for life savings, you know, because that's very sad. I mean, but it's just, I mean, to me it's like, it'd be a long run all the way up to the end of the city limits up there. And you're absolutely correct. It's approximately five miles from station one, both a bulk of our coal volume is located within itself downtown Asheville. That's not to diminish the cause on the North end. We do have an apparatus there too, responding to that particular issue. That's my own white downed old rumble, man, reddaw, I think we need three. Yeah. Well, I came at the right time tonight. Yeah. We were sliding so so candy-wants. We were going to get that first station. She's talking to the shopman with a lot of work. You're recording, okay. But here's the truth, man. Look how much money you're going to save wearing tarot one. So if you buy three of these things, about $1 million will be rich. You gotta do your math. This is government count. But it is the case that this is in production. And with the auto-destriving, the parks, and then your backrooms and all, it, we wanna get one off the floor while we can. And that's absolutely right, Mr. Agburn. Now, interesting that you would bring that up. A neighboring department just ordered two engine companies and a ladder company. They expect to take delivery in four years. Four years. Can you imagine the miles that we will do it on our apparatus in four years? So let's see, central that we put this quick response vehicle in play. And it's going to enhance our opportunity, our service to the community. It's over, Delaware. Still trading in every hand here. That's cheap, Covenant's favorite place. We're doing pretty good with training and use equipment. Yeah, bring a trailer for fire departments. You have to bring a trailer for fire departments. All right. Any other questions for the chief? What was the availability? I did deliver it by saying I know your bigger pieces are four years out. Yes. What about this type of equipment? We're extremely fortunate. We should have this vehicle delivered in the next two weeks. Oh wow. If the council agrees to move forward. We should know the flow or somewhere. It was somewhat. We pulled a few strings. All right. Well, and once we get this in service another year or so, we might be able to grab another one and solve bills concerned. I got well, certainly. I was working the polls last year and every lady was walking to the vote and she fell on the curb. She busted her head and her nose and the horned blood and it took a while to get anybody there. I tell you, we were just trying to keep the blood intact. When you do something like that, it takes that, you know, it takes a while. We think it takes longer than it does actually. Yeah, and we pride ourselves on five minutes less responding to the edges. This one, you know, we do. Okay, thanks, sir. Mr. Mayor, if you can, I apologize. You know, mine, we actually end up having a total of three votes. Ms. Reece will present to you in the end of the day. But we do have a first one where we actually counsel to approve the procurement of the apparatus. All right. Do I have a motion to authorize this purchase? I'll move that we authorize this purchase as presented. Have a motion on this. Hey, do I have a second? Second. Thank you. Mr. Swearer's discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Opposing carries. Now, Ms. Reeves. There are two action items in your packet that go along with this request. The first is item 14Bi, which is an ordinance to amend the general fund to account for the purchase, including installment financing of the entire and rescue department equipment. This is just to amend the budget that allows me to put the money in there to buy it. I recommend adoption by reference. Questions? I have a motion. I have a motion by Mr. Moffitt. Will you all make a second? Yes, I'll second. All right. Motion by Mr. Moffitt, the second, Mr. McCasville. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. The next item is item 2i, which is a resolution to amend the, actually it's going to be just a resolution, an updated resolution for the financing, which we passed one in July saying that we are going to finance our vehicles. It allows us to go ahead and purchase the vehicles when they're available and then go to the bank all at one time at the end of the years and tell the bank that we are financing it to get tax-free tax exempt financing. Since we already passed that resolution for an amount of $557,846, we need to update that resolution to include the additional expense at a hundred of $290. And that should be in your packets that was prepared by the City Attorney a reference adoption by reference. Questions? And I have a motion to adopt a reference. I'm going to adopt a reference. Mr. Berks, thank you. Second. Second. Mr. B's. Thank you. Second. Second. Second. Second. Mr. Baal. Discussion. All the players say aye. Aye. All opposed. Those are theories. I didn't question it popped up in my mind and I made notes and tried to over it. John was talking about his information shared with him at the conference, managers conference, about people moving, don't let them move into abandoned houses and whatnot. It appears to me and I'm asking this question of Trevor or somebody on staff that might know, have the four houses down here on church officially been emptied now? The two on Hammer appear to be emptied also. My understanding is they were having to go through the court system to it looks like they're in. Some of the structures are vacated the last update I had were that they were going through the process on the other two. I believe the ones closest to church street are are vacant the other two I believe at least 10 days ago we're still occupied to some extent. I have to grab by then and look at him tomorrow because the two at Hanover appeared to be empty. I mean the stuff's gone, everything's gone, there are no cars there. It looks like they've moved out. If they have we need to make sure that they don't sit there long enough. One occupied for somebody to start a camp. We need to make sure that they don't sit there long enough. What I want you to find for somebody to start a camp. We've discussed with the property owner our interest in utilizing those for some training. So I'm pretty confident that once they've got the all clear, they will let us know so that we can discuss. We don't move on it quick. Chief Light Hella a practice burden. I'm not expecting with the cold weather coming. So I'm not burning one of those houses down. But yeah, we'll follow it up tomorrow. All right, thank you. Mr. Leonard. Mr. Leonard. I'm up to Mr. Leonard. Okay. I am 15. You have petitions received from property owners for annexation of two different areas in the satellite city limits. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is for a portion of a property containing a total of 29.98 acres and located at the end of Crescue Church Road. You have in your packets of resolution prepared by the city attorney that directs the city clerk to take the required actions and staff recommends adoption of this resolution by rep. Is that in our zoning area? No sir it's not we are having discussions with the applicant on this about their desired use so it is not in our zoning jurisdiction it will require establishment of the city's zoning. Other questions? Do I have a motion for resolution for the city clerk? Mayor, I have a motion for the city clerk to investigate and I have to ask a question in the reference. Thank you, Mr. Bail. I have a second. Second. Mr. Burke's, thank you. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Second part of that is consideration or resolution setting the date. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and anticipation of your action. The City Clerk has prepared a certification of sufficiency of the petition. And then light of the certification you have in front of you, resolution prepared by the City Attorney, setting the public hearing date for the December 7th, 2023 City Council meeting on the question of the requested annexation. Staff recommends adoption of this resolution by reference. Questions? Do I have a motion to adopt my reference? Mayor, I move we adopt by reference this resolution, setting a date for public hearing on the question of annexing the J-Mac properties, real property located on the north side across the church road. Thank you, Miss Heade. Do I have a second? Second. Mr. Bell. Thank you. Discussion? Oh, if I were to say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Item carries item 15B McMaster Street. We're right ahead, sir. This is a portion of property brought or this is a petition receipt by a team for humanity a Randolph County and it's located on the master street and contains 1.38 acres. It is the total of four parcels and you have in your packet a resolution to prepare by the city attorney that directs the city clerk to thank the required actions and that is an adoption of this resolution. required actions and as that is an adoption of this resolution. Questions? Do I have a motion? Mayor, I'm moved to the adoptive resolution, directed City Court for investigate and acquisition of my reference. I have a motion, Mr. Bell. Do I have a second? Second. Second, Mr. Berks. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries. Item B2. Thank you, Mayor. Mayor of Resolution Gory. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And then, the question of your action, the city clerk is prepared, the certification of the sufficiency of the petition. And in light of this certification, you have in front of the resolution prepared by the City Attorney setting the public hearing date of the December 7, 2023 City Council meeting on the question of the requested annexation and staff recommends adoption of this resolution or reference. questions. Do I have a motion to adopt the reference? Mayor, I'll move with you adopt by reference. Thank you, Ms. Heath. Do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Birx. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, like sign. Motion carries. second part. Is there a second part? I think it was a second part. Yes, one second part. Okay, it was a second. Well, I'm sorry. It's a lie. Not me. All right. You're up again with the airport. Yes, sir. This is for an amendment to work authorization one between the city of Ashboro and David K. Dickson for an extension of the contract time. This is due to an increase in duties because the contractor, there was an omission by the contractor, SEMCON of the P-501 concrete testing mix requirements. This mix requirement was specified in the bid documents. You have in your packets this amendment to the work authorization between the city and the KDICS. The original contract time was supposed to be completed. I said believe I'll August 25th of 2023. And testing was completed and approved last week for the P501 mix and we're currently awaiting scheduling from the contractor for completion. The increase for WKDICS and contract is totally $8,723 to complete the project on their portion. And this is essentially administration. Staff recommends approval of this amendment by reference. Question? questions. If it was an admission on the contractors for it, do they not bear some liability on that cost? So we will be most likely going back with liquidated damages on the contract for this and potentially the lost because there was a or we could potentially go back and for this and the rental as there was potentially a rental for the unit starting September 1st. So we'll have to be we'll be investigating that as well and they are aware of that Okay, mr. A don't understand, but oh you need approval for item 16a don't you? Yes, yes, please all right. I have a motion to approve that request I'm there move we approve the work authorization and my reference. All right, I have a motion. I'm Mr. Bell, but I have a second. I have a moment of discussion just for a second and I agree with Mr. Sawyer's question while the FAA has very specific job performance for concrete and asphalt. There are very well known and very published and uniform throughout the industry. So I really don't understand how we got in this lab. I'm not going to use you to overlook. But it's extremely common place to stand a material. However, Mr. Leonard is indicated in, has a recruitment plan. We'll take care of this and we'll go do something to move forward. So I'm just concurring with your inquiry. We have since May communicated with the contractor that they need to, we were aware that this was amended in May and that this would take more than 30 to 60 days to do the time track concrete supply. Well, it was Chandler through concrete, but it had to be a... I understand where it's got to be, but Chandler didn't have a JMA for them. They didn't have anybody that was the testing firm. It wasn't they. anybody that was the testing firm it wasn't made. They didn't have FAA proofs, non-life, they didn't have the design. They had the design. The landing coast for somebody to do it for them. That's where the ball got dropped as they needed an outside test of safety that FAA certified and did not do that. All right, other questions? That's not our problem, but let's move on with the project. All right, so do I have a motion for eight? Okay, thanks there. Yeah, the cross we did it. We did it. We did it. We had a motion for eight. I'm sorry I'm the one. And I'll say, he said, I'll call five a second but I want those to have caught her. All in favor say aye. Aye. Lovely. Oh, all opposed motion carries. Item B. As Mr. Leonard presented, there is going to be a cost differential associated with this issue at the time as Mr. Walker says we do need to move forward. So there is a budget amendment in your packet increasing the appropriation from the grant and outlining the expense as outlined by the contract by the WK Dixon for $8,723. I recommend the option of this budget amendment by reference it's late for me to I may be asleep but I call that one So moved very good. All right. Do I have a second? Discussion discussion on favor say aye opposed by sign motion 16b is approved 17 was continued Chief Summers again. I'm a truck plan burn. I am 18. Chief Gamona, this is regarding acquisition, proposed acquisition, real property for emergency operations center. How much money can I save this time? I'm glad you guys had a good move. We'll take a drop of always one, three. Oh, that's awesome. The band's gonna pay for it. And they shall come. Yes, absolutely. The property that you see at zoo parkway and Crestview Road, at least all the criteria that was established by Asperer Fine Rescue Department to address the following growth rate. We anticipate growth taking place in the southern portion of the city, keeping in mind that we are not only building for the here and now, but we are also building for the future. Response times, it will create no overlap which will allow us to cover more areas with the recommended response time of five minutes or less. The new fire station will be approximately three miles from station one, ten miles from station two, and three point four miles from the zoo. Call volume, I'm going to skip over the call volume because we had the luxury of going over the call by you early. However, the new fire station will assist with the distribution of calls. We will redraw our response districts to cover that area. New station will also allow us to move out of a temporary station into a permanent station, which will assist with continuity and service delivery. Finally, the ISO rating, the new fire station will help maintain our ISO rating which is a significant benefit to the community. Now it is my understanding that the property owner has agreed to sell 3.25 acres to the city of Ashboro for $113,750, which is approximately $35,000 an acre. The 3.25 acres and the lay of the land will accommodate the proposed fire station interior and exterior space. The city team will work with the architect as it relates to the proposed interior and exterior space of the fire station to ensure the feasibility of the suggestion from the fireball. Also we intend to construct the proposed improvements as shown on the survey, those improvements include extension of the public water to the eastern boundary of the proposed parcel, extension of the public sewer for approximately 125 feet into the parcel. Installation of a right turn lane that would facilitate safe exiting a personnel from zoo parkway into the facility. We also will grant the own a temporary access easement across our parcel for a limited duration once the public right away has been completed the easement will be eliminated. We do expect to begin constructed the public right away, shown on the parcel next year. It is a roadway recommended by the city's comprehensive transportation plan. Are there any questions? Are there any questions? Have you worked on somewhat stable agreement with the county EMS to Station our response vehicle down there during the construction. Yeah, we continue to explore that opportunity. Well, you can't, we don't have an opportunity like that. We don't have a formal agreement as of yet. But we continue to explore. Sure, I don't want to get rent, so. They'll let us stay there. Yeah, as a last resort, we can relocate our personnel back to station one. I have a we found for the safety and security of those individuals. As well as response time, it has been beneficial to the community with them at that location. We will protect it all that county property. I mean, I mean, everything around it is a county just about. They got a fire truck right there. They might have a problem with that. You know, it's been a good marriage. I mean, everything around her to Canada is about. They got a fire truck right there, so you might think, have a problem with that. It's been a good marriage. It really has. And we appreciate them, wow, us, because it helped us to encode it. It really did. It was. Any other questions or the chase? So if there are no questions for me, Ms. Rees will present an audience to amend the general fund in an offer for purchase related to the acquisition of the council's consideration. Thank you, sir. Mr. Rees. Wonderful. I was going to say, somebody coached in pretty well Pretty strong You have an ordinance to amend the general fund in your packets. We are requesting an appropriation of $128,000 from fund balance to purchase this land I will outside of this. I will remind you that we do have a couple grants that are going to be going towards this expense. So I feel like $120,000 to be able to utilize some wonderful grants to start getting us in the right direction is a small thing to ask. I recommend adoption by record. Question. questions. Questions. So moved. Thank you, sir. Do I have a second? Second. And I have a second, Ms. Kiburks. Questions. Discussion. All the favourites say aye. Aye. discussion. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Mr. Sugg. Yes sir, the end up being two votes will need out of this. The first action will be on and offer the purchase and contract which you have in your folders. It's a pretty much standard and the way you're closing calls for set out and divided up. It also does reiterate that it's a purchase price itself of $113,750. It does put, I will note in here, it puts a deadline of December the 29th. We certainly anticipate getting this done much sooner than that, but that's just our standard default. We're just close to the end of the year for the contract. I'll be happy to answer any questions but without any questions I would recommend adoption by Revers. Let me rephrase that specifically directing the mayor to sign on behalf of the city, the offer to purchase and we will extend it to the buyer for his review. And the buyer has seen it already. Senator, excuse me. Discussion? Questions? I'm sorry. Now, in motion. Mayor, move. We authorize you on behalf of Council and the city to execute the outfit purpose and contract properly and eliminate it. Thank you, Mr. Boyle. Do I have a second? Second. Second is, hey, discussion. All of the favour say aye. Aye. Opposed? motion carries. The second vote will pertain to what's also in your folders, the temporary access easement agreement. This does, it sets a firm deadline of December 31, 2025. That's simply because we have a healthy dose of being in the government long enough to always want to get to extent for an period of time, it definitely has contemplated that street will be completed much sooner. The public, the access easement utilizes the exact same area as where the public right way is going to be dedicated as soon as the street is completed this easement evaporates by its own terms. And we did work out the good cooperation, the consideration of working together is what's providing the basis for this. There's no extra monetary consideration being exchanged for it. So I'd recommend that to council, we have to answer your questions. That the council move to alterize and direct the mayor. What city has consummated the transaction to purchase the property, direct the mayor to execute the easement. Debris and agreement. Questions? Now, how far are the water sewer lines going to go? Just down, side to fire station and it'll stop or in the development of a continual pick it up from there. Is that right? Eastern terminus of the property line. If I can, we anticipate the water line extending to the eastern boundary of the city's property to be acquired after which it could be extended into the rest of the property by another party. The sewer we were planning to bring to the crest of the hill and then that's about 125 feet into the property. And again, any further extension would be done by another party. The chance to pick it up and develop it. Yes, sir. The vendor, the city standard extension policies once this put into the public right away. Other questions? Have a motion. Mayor, I move that we all rise here to execute temporary access. So you can agree on the pun completion of the transfer of the property previously adopted by Council. Thank you, Mr. Baal. Do I have a second. Second. Thank you, Mr. Sawyer's discussion. On favor say aye. Opposed? Opposed from Ceres? Mr. Ronin. You have an update on contested case pending and the Office of Administrative Hearing and the Exchange to the Insurance of an MPBES permit to Ashboro. Good evening. We will try to be as brief as possible. What I'm going to do tonight is kind of tell you where we are. I'll go back and explain why we're there and where we need to go and kind of, I'm here for questions to just address any questions or concerns you may have. At the January 5th, 2023 Council meeting, City Council approved Mr. Auburn to execute an engagement letter with Brooks Pierce and law firm to engage as representation to represent the City of Ashboro throughout the course of Indian Ministry of Appeals and Subsequently litigation now this litigation is pertaining to our MPDS permit Just a picture about this like that's for the wastewater that is our wastewater treatment facility permit that we operate. And just remember that it's the permit that expired in 2013, and we've been trying to get this permit in place for a long time. So step forward a little bit from January on August 21st to 23, NCDQ issued our permit effective on February 1st with that Brooks Pierce Pierce acted on our behalf and filed a notice of contested case. And that was on October 20th of 2023. Now, why do we do that? NCDQ has issued a permit and they've put in limits for one part of the DOCS, and we've discussed that many times before. Staff does not, do not, theq's authority to issue that permit. What we're arguing is, as de-eq hasn't gone through the proper procedures to issue the permit. They sent us the rules review. Rules review didn't approve it because they didn't go through the proper steps. Mainly they didn't. The legislature did determine that they didn't follow the administrative procedures act. So therefore mainly they didn't issue the fiscal note for implementing the rule. So they have a, if the middle rule to be able to put the limit in our permit. So that's why we are where we are. With that, we filed, our attorneys filed the notice of contest. There have been numerous filings of petitions and motions by parties. There have been a few hearings. Now utilities from all over are weighing in. There are utilities in support of the City of Ashboro. There are utilities in support of DEQ. All of them down the Cape Fear. All of them down the Cape Fear. With that, Brooks Pierce was representing us and now we know that they had a potential conflict of interest. So one of the firms they represent regularly is a downstream utility that is seeking to intervene on behalf of DEQ, so they no longer can represent us. We were in negotiations with the second law firm and we were ready to engage with them and they found a conflict of interest with a potential law of intervener downstream in favor of DEQ. So they had a conflict of interest. So we have finally found a third law firm. It is Davis-Harman Wright, the attorney is Clark Wright. And for sure, he doesn't have any conflict of interest. It's a matter of vice and vice for you. You got to go to Mechland County. It seems like every utility in the state has an all firm except us. So hopefully we found one we can land with. Yes, we got one that. Yes. So you'd mention that. With that, so that's what we're here tonight is to allow Mr. Auburn to execute this letter engagement with Davis- Hartman right. But before we do that, I would like to address any questions you concerned you may have. If you would mind, Mr. Mayor, would you be emphasized just the limited scope that we're actually challenging as four-fold? And that's everything about the four-fold. We're not challenging entire four-fold. All we're challenging is DEQ's authority to issue the limit for one four because they didn't go through the proper rule making process. That's what we're challenging. I'm not charming much. This may be a very question, but yeah, but if Root Affairs is conflicted out, I think conflicted out both sides of that issue. It would appear that there could be some issues about that. Yes. I'm just refrained in from getting I don't want to delve too far into that one with your permission. We actually we're we're very impressed with Mr. Wright and Sir Wright. It may be pertinent to raise it appropriate time. And to be truthful the second for we had they weren't giving us an attorney with environmental experience. Mr. Wright is a very experienced environmental attorney. I'll just add for what it's worth. I don't want to give any overly negative impression. Part of the debate that has gone back and forth is that initially, and Mr. O'Neill be sure to correct me if I used to think I'm overstating it, there was initially some talk of different downstream entities intervening full board. Now it looks like they're modifying their approach and are going with just taking an Amicus stance on it. And the debate then ensued from there, well, they're just going to file an Amicus brief. Is that really a conflict? So at this point is cleaner for the city just to move ahead where we have no conflict whatsoever. Correct. That's the best belief staff level. To authorize John to negotiate with. He has to do a sign of the letter of engagement. Okay. We have received engagement later and it means all the city's procurement standards for the last couple of weeks about Acrobaton. I've got the article here. Yes. Yes. I'm glad to answer any questions you have about that. Then what we were read into or were accused of doing by several people at different times over the last couple of weeks about Acrobaton. I've got the article here. Yes. Yes. I'm glad to answer any questions you have about that. by several people at different times over the last couple weeks about Acrobaton. I've got the article here. Yes. We had to do a five-year-old of their own by our cramps. We weren't interviewed only in any of this. Press releases under that effect made me... You might work on that. It would help. It was still... I'm not working on that. It would help. I was here to ask you. So you've seen that since we're in the minutia of the administrative code, we're in the state administrative code, we're in the minute. The minutia of the MPDS, we're in the the NPDES for which it's a nice. EPA. Yes, environmental protection agency. And we're called up in two large environmental law firms. It turns out, real tired knowledge, the representative, almost the entire third of eastern North Carolina. Correct. And as we talk to to y'all the time, it's a lot of advantages to being at the headwaters of the Cape Verde. It's a lot of disadvantages too. This is one of them. So we have to figure all this out. And they didn't think about telling us to say we're representing all these people. All right. OK. So I have a motion. That's probably a beer one. I have a motion by Mr. Bell. Do I have a second? Second. Aye. All opposed. The mayor for a minute off that once again that we've been working with the Q to for 10 years now. We started on this issue of one Ford oxing in 2015 and we've met everyone of their request voluntarily. We didn't have to do anything they asked, but we did it because they asked. So, no, we're not the evil. But you're the evil. Yes. I don't want to talk to you with this action school. Because I know, so I know you're going to have a lot of it. It could go pretty far up the. I've been here for years. I've been talking to my family. We've actually got it. Yeah, it's so till then we're everything's home. I mean we're we're starting our permit is we're still working off the grandfather permit. Okay, right. And as Mr. want to make sure for the media, thanks, Mr. for reminding me. As Mr. Roni said, it is the city's policy that we work within the rule making framework. It is not that we start out to blob uh you know stones at the regulators that is not our role we our role is to provide a safe product for our citizens and so to save product for our citizens and so the waters can be used downstream. It's just that our contention is that we'll kind of be queued to not follow its own processes to adopt rules. All right. We got a calendar to look at. But before we get to that, we got a calendar to look at. But before we get to that, we got four people in the room. Normally by this time, the room's empty except for staff. So when there's four people sitting here at the end of our agenda that aren't staff or reporters, we kind of wonder if we miss something or did we, you guys are just curious. Well, maybe you just missed my phone and you down and show up for your event. I mean, how water with you? And then we'll go to the spot. And I want to be your person. And with us, I'll say that's not. Oh, OK. Great. Well, hey, we're always pleased to have you here. It's just this late in the evening. Normally everybody's gone. You can come by tomorrow Mr. Mr. Garner. If you're now that was three two months ago, I mean, we have, I think I'm comfortable in saying it appears to be fewer. It is. They seem to be leaving Taant going back to Wilmington, going back to Lexington, going, and we don't mind trying to help the local people that need help. We just don't want to help everybody in the state of North Carolina that happens to find themselves homeless and like Ashboro. So, you know, while it's sad, it's hard-hearted and not very Christian, you know, if you allow me to say that, it is a matter of survival for our businesses, our citizens, and we're doing best we can with it, and I think the numbers are going down. They appear to be. So Chuck can give you a little better picture of that tomorrow, and he does this every single day. So, good day, y'all here tonight. Okay, the calendar. Anybody have any heartburn with the proposed calendar? I want until next year when it shows up on Wednesday night. No, with none of that. I want until next year when it shows up on wins you know No, it's none of Nothing will win No, and normally we we change dates according to holidays and that type of thing So we're approving the next year's calendar, right? There are no objections what we'll do is just we put in the form of an ordinance to be on your consent agenda December. Great. Don't be changing. Great. All right. There's a lot going on. This is Veterans Day weekend. Veterans Day Parade Saturday, which is actually Veterans Day at 4 o'clock downtown Ashboro. The field of honor which it takes place at 500 flags on display at Sam's South Esprame Middle School on Highway 64. The opening ceremony is 12 o'clock news Saturday. I think that's Friday. That's Friday. It is actually Saturday. The flag shall we put out tomorrow afternoon and the field will be open for people to visit but the opening ceremony is Saturday. Oh, okay. Okay. ceremony is Saturday. Oh, okay. Okay. The flags will be put out tomorrow if I show up with them. This is a tree statement. Hopefully you will. All right. Ronald Lee Productions has filmed, has done a movie version of company K, which was a locally produced and written play. And the premiere of that will be at the sunset theater at 730 on Saturday night. Play the movie is 55 minutes, so it's not overly long. Warren Food and Family Education, which we know as the AgCenter ground breaking will be 11 on Monday November 13th. The building office for water and sewer is tentatively planned to be closed on November 16th and Friday to 17th to be relocated to the Ashbur Mall, which will give them better access for the public. City offices would go for Thanksgiving holiday Thursday and Friday. Christmas parade on December 1st at 7 o'clock. Christmas caroling trolley is begins on December 2nd and though many of those there are eight eight tours and many of them are sold out but that's a really pretty cool little event you get on the Charlie you're right around town and actors get on and off to Charlie and do parts of the Christmas story. Christmas Carol. All right. Kelly, you want to talk to us about the parade. The two other events that are happening? Yeah. Yeah. So the evening of the parade on Friday, December 1st, there will be a meet and greet at sunset theater with Kyle Petty, who is the grand marshal for this year's parade. So that will be from 530 to 630 at the sunset theater with Kyle Petty, who is the grand marshal for this year's parade. So that will be from 530 to 630 at the sunset theater. There will also be a tree lighting ceremony at 6 o'clock at the city of Ashboro Christmas Tree at the railroad tracks. We have the Ashboro High School Park Street ensemble. It's going to perform at that. Of course, the mayor will officially like the tree and I'm sure makes some remarks also. So that's at six o'clock on Friday the first. It's Christmas parade night and the next weekend is Christmas downtown on Friday. Christmas downtown, which is a really great way to get to Christmas open free and to the public. Anybody can come. Is that it? We got them all. All right. We'll start with Kelly. You got anything? I have just a couple of things. I just want to thank John for the continued efforts to have the homeless issue on the agenda and just continue bringing that up and informing the public what's going on. There was a pretty cool event at the Sunset Theatre tonight, PBS North Carolina, and then we're at the zoo, partnered together along with the city for a screening of American Buffalo, the latest Ken Burns documentary that premiered on PBS mid-month. It looked like there was a pretty good crowd gathering for that. So that's just a really cool thing to have PBS with Carolina here for that. So that's what I've got. Mr. Shreyrs, congratulations on your reelection. That's not made thing. It's thanking the voters for allowing me to keep my seat for another four years. I appreciate it very much. Mr. Boehl. Happy birthday to Olly on 1125 and happy birthday to Kelly on 1127. Thank you. As long as they keep coming ladies. That's right. I regret the John. Mayor, tomorrow at 8 a.m. I will host a veterans breakfast for the veterans of the city of Ashboro, full time employees of the national average for veterans and employment less than 10% of our employees, 35% of our 350 full-time employees or veterans. Putting my event there, I appreciate it. It's nice to be remembered. And I'll just say once again that if you don't know the story of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year, I was in the beginning of the year felt like the head in Bergline that ended in World War II, in World War I, including Captain Ben Finch and Dixon, who the post-American Legion post-year's named for. He was killed in action, leading it and he was awarded this thing with service metal. People that came home included how worked, who was a lieutenant, later became a judge and so lots of Randolph County and Asperger people were involved. It's quite a story to see and I urge you to see it and learn about it and don't forget about it because Veterans Day is November the 11th. World War I armistice was the 11th day of the 11th month at 11 a.m. of November the 11th. 11 a.m. November the 11th, 1918, 11, 11, my team 18. The Dixon American Legion post is having a flag retirement event Saturday. So if you have flags that need to be properly disposed of, you can probably just take them by there and drop them off and they'll dispose of them. The Boy Scouts that have been doing it for years did not get one put together this year and American leaders are doing it. Can't think of anything else tonight. I apologize for being so confused, lost. So, welcome. A couple of things. Tag along with Mike Arunis, general topics were about water and sewer concerns. I've shared with some of you, but just to give you an update on Trouble Duggins Council on Greensboro, this handling several other municipalities in North Carolina and class actions suit for monetary distribution on the PFAS water contamination settlement. They're working in conjunction with Baron and Bud, with Brad Land as a lead attorney with that. And the next week or so, Michael, myself and John, I've been in the conference call. I'm a copy of you Mr. Mayor on these emails. To investigate how we might want to participate, of course or not as a case may be, but there have been monetary settlements with 3 mm and D pump and there's three types of damages available to us. The main thing we're looking for is money to put in equipment to remediate this water because as Bill had asked me earlier a question about it involve the sewer, the effluent as well. Well, it doesn't initially, but it does. Because once it's in your drinking water, when it goes back to the sewer plant, then it becomes a regulated discharge as well. So just to give you an update, we'll know more about that. But hopefully there's some under Terry resolved to help with these problems. So I'm having to go through personally another a different form for the settlement for private order systems. On the brighter note, as many of you may recall, two or three decades ago, it was in the, I think in the late 90s, early 2000s, when the I-73, 74, 75 national committee was established. And our own county biker was determined of that. He was known at that time as Mr. Road Rally. And I wore out my shoe leather going with townmatch that washed in DC and attending these committee meetings. And as North Carolina mates, it's great progress as opposed to some of the other states. Now give you a brief update on state. It's recently been put back together and we had a very meaningful meeting earlier this summer and had some minutes come out. The South Carolina is trying to put a grand emphasis on it and they've got all of the original states, but together one time I was the vice chair of that committee after a townmage stepped down. I'm just a, the North Carolina representative member at this point, but just briefly, I was got a section of I-75 that they're working on that TIE-73, 74, and they're five years out on the two bills that they need to tie into that. And how that's important to us is that the hurdles are closest to these states, even all the way to Michigan, as far as ocean beach goes. And as far as our zoo destinations, this artery is extremely important for our tourism industry. So what they're doing to facilitate this does directly impact our economy. The North Carolina is fixing that by end of the year we hope to have opened the 73 by pass round Rock and Ham. North Carolina, that's a tremendous connector. That'll basically just leave the Laurel Hill intersection before we get to Lawnberg in terms of getting rid of all the lives. Now if you'll go further on down, talk about one, you'll notice they're getting over passes and getting rid of the interchange. As you'll soon see, on Fort only one at the Toyota plant. West Virginia has nearly completed their section as well. As Virginia is working on the connector. They've been more on 74 to 73, that going up the mark and scale. That's a tough stretch up there, but how that happens or not have a lot that was going around it. Michigan is, they said there are two years out on another large section that is all that numerated. The primary one to share with you is South Carolina. The ORI County people just, they basically got tired of waiting, but they have revitalized themselves and they are pressing the South Carolina legislature for a one-cent gas tax for this and to obligate $200 million a year. They have allocated 180 million for right away acquisition. They have outlined the entire route and the South Carolina equipment of BGQ, they've got all their land permits in order to do this. That is a phenomenal achievement, right? But it is South Carolina, I think, to what to wonder. So I know what they're waiting on is it be the last piece and the Feds will fund it because South Carolina only has 6,000 miles of state road compared to North Carolina with hundreds of dollars. But that's just to update on that. There are people working on it. We'll continue to press forward, you know, as we can to get South Carolina more involved. And as Mr. Mott, mentioned mayor, just remind the, with the advent of coming of Toyota, Vennfast and Chattam County, and Toyota here in Randolph County, Ben Fast and Chattam County that links us to the auto industry in Ohio and Michigan. There was much talk about the battery, not a discot. Yes, but the electric facilities and battery facilities that are right in filling in mission. That is important. So that will be a long term drive of our economy and so a tourism. I mean, you think of more reference. I just remind that you may not know South Carolina's number one economy is agriculture number two is tourism. So what's helped South Carolina move along was the COVID outbreak which destroyed the tourism industry. I got an interest in you. It's a fact to follow. Thankful for our veterans and I'm also very thankful that the citizens that give me another opportunity to serve for it with a term against thankful for that. And I would just say it has been a pleasure to serve with all of you. We'll miss spending some Thursday nights with you, so I'm just getting better. And I guess I can't thank the voters. I will thank the ones who turned out in the ones who voted. It's been a pleasure. Not only to work with all of you, but also to work with all of the staff. From the manager down line, it being a citizen, I am very confident that with all of you and all of the staff, that what we're looking at, the issues that we're facing, I'm in good hands as a citizen and I appreciate all of the service that y'all have done. I am all continuing to do. And I'm going to have two things as suggestions, since I'm on my way out. I would really love it if we could figure out a way to complied legally without all of this every meeting this wasted. The other thing is, you all be welcome when I burn all of my campaign signs and release those toxins for my campaign and also on behalf of this I try to be an advocate for the voiceless and those of us not heard those of us who are quiet and maybe don't talk as much in our heads And maybe don't talk as much in our heads. We're talking just fine. It might be that there's a little bit more conversation going on on the other end. What do they call a contrast gainer? Maybe we're not too quiet. Maybe some people might be able to take that into consideration. No, I'm pointing out. I'm just saying it's not always a bad thing. All right, Bill. I don't know what you've done. Thank you. Well, we will call those meeting adjourned. You're welcome. The stripper. Okay, go ahead and do your questions on the back now. You're welcome. I'll see you next time.