I want to say that these plans are great opportunities to really take a set pushback from the table and take a look where we are in the community, where we're trying to go in the community. They can be very complex projects. And the very best ones of these plans are produced in collaboration with a strong partnership with the staff About a lot of great feedback guidance and direction from staff as well as members of the community Including of course yourselves Maybe if I stand a little closer here that'll help I understand the strategy Okay, maybe if I stand a little closer here that'll help Oh, okay, I got you I Understand the strategy And I also do a quick apology it was brought to my attention early this morning I accidentally left your name off of the acknowledgments page that is getting corrected I'm very sorry about that that was absolutely just an oversight So here you can see we are looking at a city park system of 447 acres. So from a community of 45, 85,000 people that's not a huge city park system but there's a lot of different information you're going to see as we go through this process. That's because a lot of the recreation and park needs of residents of Johns Creek are being met by other assets in the community. So that really forms a great ecosystem that meets those needs. So this is just a map of the existing, the city parks themselves, so not the other, not any of the other green spaces. But you can see fairly well distribution across the city. But what's missing, of course, is there's not any neighborhood parks. So John's Creek is intentionally not in the business of doing neighborhood parks because there are so many neighborhoods that have prevalent recreation spaces within them. And the existing city parks that you do have really do a great job of meeting those neighborhood park needs for those residents that may not have a private neighborhood park type space in their community. So a part of this process, which we also shared the last time that I was here with you, I think late November, was the creating a really clear and strong vision and mission statement. And again, as a reminder, a vision statement is what we want to be known for. An mission statement is how we intend to accomplish it. So our vision is to strengthen John's Creek through amazing experiences in our parks. And our mission is to enhance the well-being of John's Creek residents and visitors through fund and inclusive recreation programs and safe best in class parks and facilities. And those are built on a set of core values that we also developed through the process of engaging with you all, engaging with the community, visiting and working with city staff around which these are the values that really define how and why you make decisions that you make, right? So starting of course with healthy living and connectivity, going all the way through stewardship of resources and having very strong professionality to how we operate things. I don't think any of this is going to be surprised, but it's really the building blocks of the plan. We summarized a lot of the vision that we obtained out of the community input process, more of the qualitative input process, which included the stakeholder interviews, the focus groups, the public meetings, which we had stakeholder interviews up until December the 17th, I talked to Craig with Georgia Express. So we were having interviews with folks up until the very last time periods of the plan production and really it folks around five key elements and that safety and maintenance accessibility innovation Create connectivity and then the parks serving as strong quality of life attributes in the community Again, none of these should be surprises to you, and we've gone over a lot of this material. This is a word cloud from what we heard in the very first public meeting about what residents value most about your recreation and park systems. What's interesting is one of the biggest most prominent things that we heard, not only in that meeting, but throughout the process, was the desire and need for trails. So there's also, there's a lot of recommendation in here about trails. So there's also there's a lot of recommendation in here about trails. There's also a lot of recommendations about how we can further enhance our park system to meet current and emerging recreational needs. As we build out additional parks, which we're not going to be building out a lot, but Collie Creek and Creekside, what are some of the key elements? Maybe those parks should include. maybe those parks should include. Some of the major challenges that we identified that we're facing, the plan needs to attempt to address is around facility maintenance. We heard first and foremost from the community of priorities to take care of what we already have, but also being the city being prepared for the full life cycle costs of maintaining the high quality of parks that you already have into the future as they age and as they're heavily used. But also meeting community needs, you know, it's not a surprise. A lot of what we heard about was about the availability of sports facilities, particularly sports fields for youth. The need for indoor multi-use spaces, which basically doesn't really exist in any level of quantity today. And then the ability for the recreation and park system to support the community and being able to recruit and retain residents and families. The concern that we're losing residents and families that they may be exporting out or migrating out of John's Creek because their recreation and parks are not being completely met. Their needs are not being completely met. Their needs are not being met. And then also addressing just the overall organizational capacity of the city to be able to meet all these needs. The staff has done an amazing job in the last 16 years. And we want to make sure that they are set up for success moving forward. So we've got some recommendations in there about the current operational model, possibly evolving into the future. I don't think in an unexpected direction as well as making sure that we're staffing and resourcing properly. The key issues and themes that we identified that built we built recommendations around were around the system should support community growth, the availability of youth athletic facilities, multipurpose indoor space, trails, making sure we seamlessly integrate other providers in the community, including the school systems, and that we have a recreation and park system that's inclusive and representative of all the needs of the residents in the community. I'm moving a little quickly through this material because we covered it all in November. So we did, you know, this process included a park as tight facility assessment. And again, we all know you have your parks that are relatively new, all of them. And so they're all extremely well-capped and in great condition. So this was not a rescue plan around parts that were in disparate condition at all. When we did the level of service analysis, we determined that the total park plan, after we did the adjustments around the acreages within the Chattahoochi River National Recreation Area, that those were not really gonna be a one-to-one type of availability as well as that multiplier within the school properties. We still came out with about a 10.77 acres per thousand when you add all that up which puts us slightly above the 2022 and RPA National Recreation Parks Association media. But with maintaining those levels of service by 2037, so 15 years from now at our current projected rate of growth, that would mean you would need an additional 11.19 acres of community parks to meet those needs. So not a huge number. A lot of times when we are doing these plans, when you do a level of service, you see a number more like 150 acres or something like that. And that's not the case here. So I'm going to walk through a series of maps, and I think these will be pretty fascinating two years you see. So we overlay the different levels of areas of service of different parks that are present within John's Creek. So this is the city, just the city parks. So the coverage area of different types of parks, like a mini-parks, about a quarter mile radius, community parks, the two miles, regional three mile, especially uses three mile radius. As you see, as you look at that, you have pretty good coverage of Johns Creek just within the city parks alone. We have a few regions, I don't have a pointer here, but a few regions one in the south central and one in the north central that are in the North Central that are not being covered by city parks, but you're going to see in a minute, they are well covered by other forms of parks and recreation amenities. So we looked at, we mapped out all the, us, elementary school and middle school facilities that had public use availability. So we did not use high school facilities because they have very limited or no public access. And we also looked at all the HOA green spaces. So these are spaces within the community that really help to support and meet those neighborhood park needs that we talked about earlier that the city is not real, that's not their lane. So that's just the look of schools and HOAs. Then we look at, we add to the schools in HOAs, we add to the golf courses, we have several golf courses in the community, one of which is public. We also added Web Bridge Park in Alfa Reda because it's right on the edge and is heavily used by a lot of John's Creek residents. And then we added in the Chattahoochi River National Recreation Area Lands and you start to see how well the coverage is of recreation of park amenities and sites here in the community. When you add our parks to it, it's hard to see if it didn't much, but you pretty much see the entire community is covered. So that's a good graphical illustration to see how well distributed. You have recreation and park assets within the community. We went through the prioritization model. We talked about this last time we met. It involved four major input processes. One is the statistically valid survey, two is all the qualitative input we received. That included the online survey as well as the public meetings and the interviews and focus groups. And then we took some ranking from city staff and then the consultant team. And this is what ended up as a result of a prioritization of facilities and amenities. And I want to remind you again this is not a take to be taken as a linear list. It's just because something may be in a moderate or low priority doesn't mean it's something you wouldn't want to develop if you have the opportunity to do so. It doesn't mean that you only get some modern and low priorities once you've checked off all the high priorities. It just means this is how facilities and amenities played out when we went through this model prioritizing against community interests. We did a recreational program assessment. We identified eight different core program areas from adaptive special needs, the community garden, fitness, nature and historic senior special events, veterans and youth sports. And then collecting the information to take a look at the assessment, Kirk really reached out and include feedback from some of our core partners. So, Audrey Mills, feedback is in here, OC Park, youth sports associations in here in Newtown Recreations is in here, OC, Park, you sports associations in here, and Newtown Recreations inputs in here as well. What we saw when we looked at that is, is an age segmentation. So, P's are primary audience, S is secondary audience. So, across multiple age segments, and across each of those areas of core programs, you see what we have is pretty very strong coverage across all the different age groups. Of course, you know, the only program that's really featured in all age programs is special events. And we're not doing a lot of senior and active adult programs with preschoolers, big surprise. But nonetheless, you can see we have a very wide distribution of both primary and secondary audiences within our offerings. We looked at life cycle analysis, and this is based on a self-assessment of where programs are in their life cycle. So we asked them to identify whether they were an introductory, they just were introduced as a new program, whether they had been fairly new in a takeoff phase, if they were were introduced as a new program, whether they had been fairly new in a takeoff phase, if they were in a fairly steady growth phase, a mature phase, a saturated phase or a declination. What you see on this first column on the left is where the actual programs are and the summation in the green column is when you sum up those some categories. So you have 67% of your programs that fall in that introduction to growth phase. You have about 38% of your programs that are in that mature phase. You have about 10% that are in the saturation to decline. Based on NRPA metrics and our experience across the country, we have a recommended distribution that you're actually a little bit higher on the introductory phase than the recommended, just under on the mature phase and right at the recommended on the saturation and decline. So this is a good news story. That means you're a fairly fresh and innovative new program at this point because we have more programs that are coming out in that early phase. Should the green columns end up 100 percent? They should be out of the not. No, I will, let's see, so tonight. So I'll really to correct this before tomorrow. This is so 40, 115 percent. 115 percent. So what we're missing is here. 24. Okay. Yeah, we'll correct that before this tomorrow evening's presentation. Good catch. Okay. So based on what we heard in recreational programming needs, these five priorities came out of the process. We mentioned this before, but interestingly enough, we saw a lot of interest in the farmer's market, adult wellness and fitness, public music arts and theater, community special events, and new sports leads. So based on all of that, we really organized this into five strategic initiatives that the recommendations are built around and the CIP is built around. First of those is finishing Colley Creek Park. And with Kimberly's help, we also were really able to get a lot of detail in on identifying what are short term and mid term and long term priorities that are not only applicable and relevant but also feasible for the city and within a lot of your current planning. of the currently funded development, onboarding some staff. You'll see some recommendations in there about actually bringing on city staff, recreation staff to assist and scheduling and coordination of those facilities versus just tacking it onto an existing use agreement with another outside organization. And spending a lot of time around marketing and awareness and introducing the community to the park, including some specific events that can celebrate the park and its amenities. And this is based on about a 10 year horizon. So short term would be things we would want to really prioritize in that first one to three years. Midterm is that four to six years and long term is more seven to ten. So our midterm priorities around Colleague Creek is once we get this thing open and we operate it for the first two or three years, really going back to the community and getting some feedback about how well those facilities are meeting their needs, where we may still have some remaining gaps. And then long term is really being able to address any amenity upgrades enhancements or additions that may be necessary based on what we're learning from the community and the midterm. So one of the things that we'll talk about in Paul, I know you and I are going to visit tomorrow, is that we really feel like we should be evaluating how the impact of the newly lighted fields coming on board at Colley Creek really impact the need to have lighted facilities at Newtown. So this is something where as this facility, as this part comes online and there's also some recommendations, a short-term recommendations around lighting facilities at ShakeRag. As we see how the impact of that changes, the availability and the demand balance, then the decision can be made about new town life. So, Creekside Park is the second strategic initiative. This is a big, big item. I mean, it's, we have, we've not completed engineering and design, but initially the thought is that this could be as much as a $32 million development project. So it's no small project, but the short term priority is around completing that engineering and design. And then moving into developing phases for development, for construction and development of that park and then put out a solicitation for the first phase of construction and then really getting into full build out of the park in the next seven to ten years. Of course trails is a major major priority and it's one of the strategic initiatives. In the short term we obviously in the course of completing the development at Colley Creek that includes the 5K loop trail and completing the development at Colle Creek. That includes the 5K loop trail. And completing the engineering of the Abbott's Bridge connector that connects with to Colle Creek, as well as beginning the engineering of the McGinnis Ferry connector that connects to Colle Creek. And really the council continuing the PTV conversation, which is the golf carts and things like that, but the city developing a point of view and a policy around how all that's going to be integrated into overall mobility within the community. That's going to be something that obviously is deeply steeped in a lot of other conversations within public works, et cetera. The midterm is developing core, not-or, core visionary trail projects and seeking an ongoing funding source for looking at partnerships and ways in which we can fund trail development and then finally building out a trail system and community connectivity. We didn't lose, of course, it's included in the plan that the two visionary trail projects is the Chattahoochi River Greenway and the way in which we can contribute to the completion of that. And then a north-south spine that can go along the Georgia Power Utility easement. There's, you know, trail development can cost as much as $1.1 million per mile. So it's, you can end the number, total number of trails that came out of the level service was somewhere around 20 to 21 miles. So you can get a fairly steep price point with, with trail development. If you're not creative with partnerships and other ways in which you can help to mitigate and bring those costs down. We have enhancements in programming and really looking at our short term priorities, addressing the need for farmers market, building out more adult wellness and fitness programs. There's a strong and local effort around arts and cultural center. We've got the committee that's been formed. So really look exploring about a cultural and performing arts center, and then the re-examination of program partnerships. So one of the suggestions that we make, of course, right now there's initial and core partnerships with two organizations, OCEP Park Youth Sports Association and Newtown Rec. There's a number of organizations that are independent youth sports organizations that are really helping to fill that niche, since that's intentionally something that the city is not doing directly. That includes, of course, the Youth Cricket Association, the Youth Football Association, Georgia Express, the North Fulton FC. And so looking at the possibility of having stronger partnerships with those organizations, where they get more support to the form of coordination, facility access, promotion, etc. So that residents know they exist and they have easier access to those facilities to be able to do what they need to do to meet those needs of the community. In a midterm basis, really looking at indoor multi-use space and that could be the redevelopment or the adaptive reuse of facilities at a Colleague Creek and the annual review of community and Vincent programs which we put together some metrics around ways and lenses that we should be looking at our programs to evaluate how successful they are through a number of outcomes from participation levels to a mission alignment. Are they meeting the financial objectives that we have for them? So using those types of metrics to start really taking a look each year at the types of events and programs we're providing so that we can continue to grow the strength and the resiliency of that program portfolio. And then on the long term just continuing with community engagement and the evolution of the programs based on what we're hearing and how they're performing. The fourth, this is the fifth strategic initiative is around updating our existing parks. And in the short term, really focusing on equipment and facilities that's meeting the needs for all ages and abilities that's something that we heard loud and clear is a strong core value of the community. So where we have the opportunity to upgrade an existing playground to make it an inclusive playground or a multi-generational playground. Those are things that we should consider. We have an opportunity to maybe enhance our spaces with a splash pad thoughtfully. Those are things that we should consider. And included in that, of course, is making sure all of our sites and our facilities are as accessible as they can be to people of all abilities. And that we're driving awareness in the community about what's out there and the resources that are available to them. Well, what we heard in the statistically valid survey, a lot of cases, and the top reasons why I don't go to Johns Creek's parks more often is I'm just not aware of what's there. Multi-term priorities, our midterm priorities, excuse me, is the continued review of community events and programs, and then evaluating the need for additional athletic facilities or the optimal optimization of use of existing facilities. So that's something we're recommending in that for a six-year period and then similar to a lot of these other initiatives, maintaining that community conversation to find out if we're meeting their needs and if not how we can do so better. So I did want to include this slide just as a reminder of the top types of amenities that we heard people are interested in and needing current and evolving needs. The multi-use paid and unpaid trail, the farmers market pickleball, water access, splash pads, the inclusive playground, maker space, outdoor performance venue, restrooms, and in particular outdoor rectangular sports fields versus diamond ball fields, which we have quite a few of already. And then we have several coming online with Colley Creek, so that's, we're hoping that that does a great lift in meeting those needs. And then we didn't shy away from making some fairly bold operational recommendations as well. You'll find those in the plan around, I just talked about earlier about how we embrace independent youth recreation providers, right? How we create an easier space for them to actually do what they do and meet those needs in partnership with the city. We also recommend that over the course of these 10 years, we start the evolution of insourcing, the recreation and parks function. It's not something that we recommend as a flip of a switch. We actually recommend you start with the recreation side of the house and kind of grow into that and over time you can slowly transition as long as that's working that you can transition the park side of the house into that. And one of the first steps that you can make in that is actually staffing the functions out at Colleen Creek for that that coordination is handled directly by city staff. And then within that we also have a section built around how we can expand funding and revenue options to better resource the city and doing a lot of this work. Because that takes us to the slide that everybody wants to get to, which is the dollar amount. So this is based on 2022 estimates. Of course it's based also on projected as much as 10 years. It's a 10 year plan. It's reflective of community needs and interest. It doesn't mean you have to do everything that's in it, but I would be very surprised if over the course of the next 10 years there emerged something you wanted to do that wasn't in it. So you can always back off of this, for sure. And it is a combination of enhancing our existing facilities and developing new. So within that framework, about 15.75 million falls within that category of enhancing existing parks and facilities. 70.25 million is in the developing new park facilities and those are these three items. That's Collie Creek, that out parcel with Collie Creek and Creek sites. So those are big ticket items. That's why that number is so big. And of course, 20 million of that is already in play with Colley Creek. And then system wide projects include looking at ADA, looking at wayfinding. But then the biggest item of that is looking at trail development over the course of the next 10 years. We've got it around 24.86 million all coming to a price tag with the potential of a little south of $111 million worth of investment in the recreation and park system over the next 10 years. Now, this may seem like a big number, and it really is a big number, and you have a lot of time to wrestle with how you might be able to resource this through partnerships, through grants, through new revenue opportunities, new finance opportunities. There's opportunities for private, excuse me, public private partnerships in this. This is not a number that's completely out of line either. I've just recently completed a plan for a community that's only 25,000 people and they had a CIP of $95 million. So this is not something that's out of the ordinary, per se, but it is a big number. So I anticipate we'll get some feedback and thoughts from the City Council when we're meeting with them next Tuesday during their work session and we'll just see how it survives as it goes through the process. And what's coming up next is, as I mentioned at the top of the presentation, we have a third public forum tomorrow and then we also have the next the final public forum is next Monday at the Clubhouse at Newtown Park. We'll have our City Council work session on January 10th and based on your feedback tonight, the feedback that we received tomorrow and on Monday and what comes out of the Council work session we'll sharpen our pencils and go back and based on your feedback tonight, the feedback that we received tomorrow and on Monday, and what comes out of the council work session, we'll sharpen our pencils and go back to make refinements to the draft, so that we can get it ready for the City Council's review and adoption. So that is in a nutshell the overview of the plan. I know it may seem a little bit short, but we kind of covered a little bit over half of it when we were here in November. We want to make sure we had time to cover what had been developed since then. Okay. Thanks. So just wondering in all this project, does any any other project involve like indoor fitness? Because when I look around, there's nothing in the Johns Creek area. I always have to go to another city, which is unfortunate. I always have to drive like 20, 30 minutes. I know it's not a high priority on the survey list, but in John's Creek, we have none. Yes. So we recommend multipurpose indoor space, the conservative number of purposes. And so there will be, as we go through that, we that can serve a number of purposes. And so there will be as we go through that, we recommended that as a midterm priority. So sometime in the next four to six years, and there would be additional community engagement. I'm sure associated with that to influence how that ends up getting designed. We recommended bait first, the first predominant use of that multipurpose indoor space to support steam programming and maker space, but it can also have fairly broad applicability for indoor fitness programs, et cetera. So as we go along, I encourage the community to have that ongoing process to help influence how that's designed. Okay, thanks. The other question I have is some of the facility, even it's kind of new, like OC Park, the basketball court. It looks new, but the floor is not in level. It's really bad design. I'm wondering if there are going to be any improvement on those conditions, OK? But when it constructs it, it's not in good shape already. Okay no we'll note that down I know during the site and facility assessments barge design is the engineering firm that did that we provided a whole list of things park by park and I know the staff has taken that on as some maintenance priorities so I'll look and make sure that that's reflected in there. Okay. Thanks. You bet. I didn't hear any mention of Aquatics programs. Is there any plan for particularly indoor heated for year round use? We did not that we did not recommend indoor aquatics. There's a lot of, and I know there may be, and I don't mean to discount communities with HOAs that don't have any of those recreation amenities, but there are a lot of because of H.O.A. pools. And the aquatics, particularly indoor pools, becomes extremely expensive to build and to operate, because then you have to also bring on lifeguards and staffing. What we did recommend on the aquatic side was, I know this is not going to meet your needs, but splash pads because it has a fairly broad use and appeal. But no, at this time, we did not recommend indoor aquatic facilities. and I'm not sure if you can see that. I'm not sure if you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you can see that you year particularly for aerobics for seniors and during the school year they could use it all morning and then the afternoon it was open to the public and I know it's expensive but right now the only silver sneakers or what it's that surrounded John's Creek is that LA fitness they have one class at nine o'clock you have to be there at eight in order to get a 12 inch square. Okay. And there's one in Roswell. Roswell Center has one, but the quality is not as of teaching is not as good. There's many of us that want it. Okay. I will note it down. Thank you. want it. Okay, I will note it down. Thank you. Let me get back to the Indoor Gym questions. I know you answer him about, you know, a Holland does take four to six years? That's recommended, yes. And after four to six years, then this boy is going to be 12 years old. And he's going to be missing a lot of time, right? Because I think the indoor gym is immediately needed. And I don't know how this rankings was placed. But if by the popularity, I can see the indoor gym used at the other county. Green at for side. By the popularity, I can see the indoor gym used at other county, Grinette, Forsyne. They are always has people, always, every people always is here. And I also check the Johns Creek population by age. So the majority is kids like them, and also the mid-age like us between 30 and 50. And I think we miss a lot of information when we have the park design. In the beginning, we are so excited about the quality cricket park that we heard there's a lot of things and also including the indoor gym. And we saw that's a plan. And now if it's getting out, I don't know, because like Earth, either kids are busy, and we are busy. We don't get the chance to make our choices, and that's why the ranking for IndoJM is low. But by reality, that cannot be low, because that's by fact, if you see other county IndoJM use, they all people, and they still have high demand. Even we want to reserve the court, they all people and they still have high demand. Even we want to reserve the court, they don't have space. So I think Indo Jim has a much higher priority than the multi-use Indo maker place. OK. Thank you. Hi. Thank you. Is there any plans for integration with Collie Creek and then Rogers Bridge and Duluth? Yes. So we also recommend continuing to strengthen that relationship with Duluth because there's great river access on the Duluth side. And of course with the completion of that bridge, hopefully that's something that's fairly seamless for users. Do you know when that's slated to be completed? That's a good question. Okay. Some are on this year. Also I noticed new town on certain days and during certain events, there's a serious parking issue. Is that being considered for Colleague Creek? Or how many spaces are being built there? Right. there's about 500 spaces planned for Colleague Creek Park so yes there's a lot more space out there than there is Newtown. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks. It's a discussion. I just wanted to add what the gentleman was talking about. Since there is a high demand, I think financially it would make sense because you can actually rent it out. So the facility is to get some revenues to cover the investment. Sure. Of course. It's a need to be a balance of open access and reserveable use. Of course, is otherwise you would have issues with actually meeting the needs. I just want to make a comment that the indoor multi use gym. I think a lot of parents are here because of that reason. So just want to you to have a make a note on on your side. Thank you. You bet. I think there's a lot of opportunity to continue this conversation with city leadership and the city council as and I'm going to say four to six years is because first of all in that kind of work would be phase two build out of Collie Creek you've got to get the design you got to get the engineering you've got to have the community engagement and you got to find the funding and it's going to take you at least three years likely to do that. Yes, ma'am. I have a question about Newtown Park. I appreciate all the effort and discussion around Collin Creek, but I live on the south side of Johnson Creek. And if you look at as the flow cry as the crow flies, I am equidistant to both parks. It will take me 45 minutes to get to Collin Creek, which is traffic. It takes me 10 to get to Newtown. The question to you is this, Newtown obviously is in need of much improvements. We've noticed a decrease in the use sports activities at Newtown due to poor lighting, no lighting actually. And other instances like that, how are you guys consulting the city in working with the communities around Newtown and either other parks that may have a needs that need be addressed like that? And what are your plans for that? the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the city's and the and the city's of this project as something that the City Council in particular wanted to deeper evaluation of and some recommendations around. It's also something that was clearly identified to us early on as a contentious issue. Because there's a lot of demand for fields and you know particularly the rectangular fields because of the short shortage of those in the community and you know there's no lighted fields in the new town. But at the same time, you've got a local, you've got some residents that are around the new town park that are deeply concerned about light pollution, about usage that's ongoing deeper into the night, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So what we did recommend is this in the plan. We did recommend that we're going to bring on some new fields with cally creek and we're going to bring on some new fields with Cully Creek and that are they're going to be lit. We're also going to be recommending light a couple of the fields out as shake rack. And then to do in a thoughtful evaluation of whether or not that in itself actually meets that demand. And if it doesn't, then because the community, the city really does not have a lot of available land for new park space, for development of new parks, that we look at optimizing the use of the fields at Newtown in order with lights, but selectively, and there are plans to, in the CIP, there's items in there around lighting, the lacrosse field, the tennis courts, the pickle wall courts, and the soccer field. Well, that's good to hear because I was looking at, especially your buzzwords or trails, they just completed the trail around Newtown. And it's a lovely trail. It's not lit. You can put low-level lighting, ground-focused lighting, what have you. Again, I don't really think you answered my question very well, but did you guys consult with the city at all, or did you give them any advice on how to handle that, that contention? Have you ever had to consult city councils and how to deal with ageways and about that before? Because I asked, because just across the street from Newtown is Mount Pizca sports facility and their lights at night especially at fog project over into the neighborhoods that surround the other side of Newtown Park. I've seen it myself you know when I've been there with my daughter you know and again for those of us who are on the South side of Johns Creek, I appreciate and applaud everything that's going on up this way, but I'm not gonna be able to have my child participate in sports to take me 45 minutes to get to in rush hour, even with the lights. Sure. So I just was wondering how you guys, if you guys did in fact give them any consulting tips or advisements or how to handle these kind of situations because Newtown is a gym and there aren't as many multi use or um, there aren't any multi use or multi housing developments in the south side. So us with our families use Newtown. There's a lot more up here which is making the demand for Colley Creek. So I'm just wondering if there's that plan. We included in the plan, we talked about lighting at New Town. We consulted with the leadership or we provided the expertise about the new technology around lights that really limits the bleed off of light pollution. We talked about the possibility of also having hours of usage that were clear. So there was a limitation. It's not something that the residents have to fear is going to go on until midnight. So we did make recommendations around how to mitigate some of the community backlash. But again, this is something, this is a conversation that is ongoing. Yeah. It is. Once again, a new town, new town because of the freezing, the sprinkler system went off, so all of Park Place is closed until the insurance like adjusters, and as I understand it, there's five other facilities that are the same. Last year our indoor exercise went from 60 persons that could go into the building at Park Place to 9. And so the seniors exercise facility has greatly diminished. Then there was the amphitheater issue. And with the rain we had, there was only exercise, eligible area, not soaked today for eight persons. So what I'm hearing is indoor facilities for many areas, young people and their sports, old people in their sports, old people, and our exercise are maybe higher than as many people voted for trails. There's a lot of ground. A lot of people can walk 24-7. So, the only indoor facility you mention about is the multi-use of facility. There is indoor steam activity. I don't know what that, what is Indoor Steam activity? Steam stands for Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, and Music. Well, really people really need some spark, you know? Yeah, there are so many activities people need spark. You may say, let me say the facility in Fossilite South for that county. There are several Ind indoor activity facilities. You can see there, all in four, all in four. That is very efficient, very, very efficient facility. That Johns Creek have none of those kind of activity facility. We really need one, at least one. That is very high priority. We have none of those kinds of facility. Thank you. You bet. First thanks sir for the leading the park for Jones Creek, the Newtryg. And I know there's a lot of discussion. But the first time I know there's a chance for us to discuss maybe its mass information shortage. And I really want to know what to say every time there's a raining, there's a bad weather. I want to take my keys together, exercise, get some warm up. But I have to drive to the other country and pay the gate fee for that. So I really want to get the indoor. I think the indoor just a lot of activities and the board is the basketball. I think the basketball is the most easy and the cheaper one in my opinion. And the benefit of most people they can play from the morning to the night, midnight, of every day. every so beneath it a lot, and a lot of people just like that lady said, I go to the other park, the trail, a big trail, a lot of the area, nobody only meets, what I said, but if you go to the other country, it's a center, I need a weight, weight, just a waste of time and the resource so if you can take our opinion say it puts this indoor box book or at the higher priority I think that will benefit most people a lot in the near future. Thank you. So indoor recreation facilities is a priority? Yes. Okay. Indoor I think I've heard for me. For me, I like to play basketball. Yeah, I think that's the easiest and the chip is way to me and to minus Danny. The pool I think is good, but it's so sweet as you're saying. But about the world, you have to get two more. So I see. As I'm when I'm back in town next Tuesday working with city council, obviously we're going to go over all the feedback we've received so far. I'll make sure that I reiterate with them, we heard loud and clear today that having indoor recreation and fitness spaces a major priority. I promise. You bet. space is a major priority. I promise. You bet. X and 5, that's what it's fun to be ready along. Okay. Yes. Well, there's a lot you can do indoors. You can do volleyball, pickleball, you can do a lot of things indoors. You can have fitness studio. Okay. One third is really fit. Okay. One third is really. Okay. I promise you I will channeled all of this as a priority to the council. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yes, ma'am. Hi, good evening to everyone. So first I want to say thank you for having the public meeting tonight. I just want to share some of my personal experience with my kids. I have a two kids and one is thirteen in the virtual middle and the other one is on third grade at ShakeCRAC. And the problem is I still want to address the indoor gym, not only for basketball, volleyball, pickable, everything, because of two of my kids, we all play basketball, but we really don't have place to play. So except the outdoor. And so we had to use four sides, either four sides of the building for the rec center. Of course, we had to pay additional because we're non-resident. And also my girl and my boy, they were all in the announcement of a TITAN basketball team. I think I think some parents are, you know, we're just a rebuild since we haven't been having TITAN basketball team. I think more than 10 years, but some of the awesome dad, the rebuild team this year, but we could not find a gym to afford a kids practice. So we have to run, I think Coach told us, they're pretty expensive, high rate at the river trail, but still because river trail has their own, like a user, their school, they were not used for public. So they have their own activities. So really, a lot of time that we have to use it when they were available just nobody used it so it's really hard for our kids of course it's a 10 years plan then my daughter probably got to college but I just hope for next generation our kids in John's Road it's that they can have a place to play indoor or the activities. And of course, I have a 20-year plan to stay in Johnstreet. So I still want to walk or run either like a used indoor gym since we've one third of the day of the Georgia is going to rain. So really, thank you. If you can put that in your gym on the priority. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. I really enjoy learning about future where John's Creek is headed. I'm very excited to see when those amenity news are built. My question for you is along the lines of the lights at Newtown Park as well. I live in the very southwest part of the city where Newtown Park is the closest park to my house. And I live in a neighborhood that doesn't have tennis courts pool walking trails playground. And so when I get stuck outside like the winter and get stuck at 530, myself and kids in the neighborhood don't have anywhere to go to get outside at night. And I understand that Colley Creek and Shake Rack are candidates in the plan for lights. And I understand that Colleague Creek and Shake Rack are candidates in the plan for lights. Both of those parks are four minutes apart from each other and they're 40 plus minutes from where I live. And so while those being built will take some of the daylight demand off of Newtown Park, it won't help at all with the next time demands. So I'd really encourage your team to look again at Newtown Park and the evening hours opportunities there. Thanks. You bet. Thank you. We have one. All right. So thank you for the presentation and everything that you've presented. And I'm here for I do want to add that I'm a proponent for the GM. I'm not with these people either that came as a group, but we do and we want to play pickleball indoors. We drove out the way up to Fowler Park, which is a good distance away. Sure. And we do have to pay to play. I consideration that the parks and rent could consider is maybe leasing to make it building somewhere and converting that. I know that when I first moved to Johns Creek, my daughter took gymnastics in Alperetta, the gem that she went to was a building, was, you know, know it was it was an you know it's hard to describe but it was not an indoor building it was just something that was attached to another building and it worked you know they got the job done and some of the things I'd like to consider for colleague Creek I hope they are considering but by way, is it really only going to hit five people fall courts as to the six? Why five and not six? That's kind of like. So I'll say the master plan that when the thing was master plan there was six shown as design progresses. Sometimes they're topography constraints that sort of tweak the design. So by the end, they could only fit five in the space. They weren't able to fit the six that they hoped for. Okay. Well, I'd have to see that just to confirm. But one of the things that I think is important with adult, I see the adult fitness that you have up here and that was one of the things you said we had plenty of and I'm thinking, am I missing here because I'm an adult I live at this end but I don't know of a lot of adult fitness for me other than the trails you know that's provided and I remember that you said made mention that we're plenty of it but I'm when they do provide adult fitness for the parks at Coli Creek see the shade that's up there? The shade has provided that's very important for people to have. And so I just even around the courts and all around because we get so hot near in the summer that we need as many trees as we can put in the park. You bet. And I guess that was really yet. I just wanted to add that. You bet. Thank you. Anyone else? Yeah. In the back. Hey, thanks for the presentation and the opportunity to voice our opinions. I just wanted to give my personal experience as a passion and basketball player, but also as a father. For indoor gyms, the only real option that's family friendly is that I found. And maybe this is a lack of awareness, as you mentioned, but we've had to drive all the way to peach tree corners. There's a YMCA there. But one thing that they did really well is they had that indoor, not just basketball court, but multi-use court. So half the time there were people playing pickleball there, you know, indoors away from the heat and the rain and, you know, there are fitness classes for seniors as well as basketball. So I was thinking, you know, have that as a multi-use indoor facility. So thank you. You bet. Sorry, again, just to more curiosity questions. So you had like 110 minutes estimate cost. How much of that was rescued? That's all new funding that would need to be secured. Oh, I see. I sometimes there is like 17 minutes, which is going to be invested in it. Although there is some funding in there that's, you know, through other funding streams that are established from the city, but the vast majority would be need to be acquired through various forms, whether it's city funding or partner funding or other new funding sources that you can activate. That's 20 million for the phase two. Got it. Thanks. You bet. Thanks. You bet. I just want to have a quick question I'm wondering how can we track that? So the new park, just a new creation park. So what is the timeline design? What is the decision? What is the proposal? How can we feedback? So comments just like you online comments that. So what is the design plan? Yes. Okay. So we really do our best to try to push this information out to the public through a variety of channels. If you are on social media following the city's Facebook page will get you a lot of that information. We also have city email blasts and, of course, the website. There's front page news on the websites there. So those would be, I would say social media, the website and the city email blasts are your best bet for notifications on public meetings like this, which we'll always have for new projects and public meetings like this. This has been very, very helpful and I've taken detailed notes on all the comments I'm going to go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and the time to be with us, do out the process and being with us tonight and sharing your thoughts and safe drive home. Please pull out a comment card back there. Make sure you sign in if you have not already.