Okay, welcome everybody. This is the City of Illinois-Billyville City Council 30 seconds, the light 21 2020 is 2030. And if we can start with oral communications, who are we having? Yes, we do. The first caller is Mr. Steve Mayer, and he has some slides that he'd like to share with the council. So we can have those slides, please, and then can you have Mr. Mayer speak. Thank you for allowing me to speak. The audience comments, thank you for allowing me to speak. This audience comments can be listed into the category of, I get calls you get public comment. Residents call me to vent over what they find highly objectionable. I have a series of slides that may help elicit their points. First slide please. This is a quote from last week's meeting by the mayor regarding enforcement of mass wear. There are numerous comments that cannot be stated because they are too profane. But they center upon the mayor's statement sending a very mixed message. Next slide please. One resident sit in this chart from last month's Rex and Park agenda, which clearly demonstrates that being nice quote-unquote does not work, it's solely based upon the massive uptick and wardings issued for the social distancing and mask wearing in the last list of week and June. Next slide please. This was a quote from last week's meeting regarding the wording of the advertising contract of the courier. Originally, the commercial tenant insisted that it would come from the vice mayor when meeting regarding the wording of the advertising contract of the courier. Originally the commercial timet and the system that it came from the vice mayor when intact it was from the mayor. What exercise is business owners that it seems that it favors one business overall. Others, for example retailers who are virtually no sales face, right now face an August 1st eviction when their landlords will not cooperate and they do not feel they are being helped. Next slide. This is an advertisement in the courier. A number of cars could not understand why a council member paid for the ad along with the publishers of the courier and the co-owner of Lott's 12 and 13. Some insisted to council members because she is now in business with those individuals, but no longer vote on either the courier contract or lots 12 and 13. In turn, civil commissioners called and were discussed that their public service was denigrated by a commissioner who seems to be using his position for one of his brand and business. Next slide please. The commissioner posted this on instant grant. The comment I most appreciated was your very handsome exclamation point, which brings us to our conclusion remark from residents who are pined in sarcasticly. This has Keith Sterling's fingerprints all over it. Your orchestrated the appointment of the commissioner, the Instagram post, and the courier ad. Keith wants to be the coexecre producer with Andy Cohen of a new Bravo reality series entitled The Fourth Floor, featuring the council and selected staff. And for the reunion show, Keith wants to bring back Nancy Krauss and spice things up for a surefire, anyone. That concludes my audience comment. Thank you. Mayor May I make a comment please? Sure. I just want to put on record that I have put no money for Zetaad whatsoever. Commissioner Flagg reached out to me and asked me if it could use my name as somebody supporting him. There's not been any money whatsoever that I gave towards that act. Good thing. Come on in, you're welcome. Yes, next call is a suboptam bomb. Okay, hi. You're welcome. The rest of the three may ask me to call in today with respect to the weather, I said you want term limits. But what I suggested that we should have three term limits and hopefully the council will put on the ballot in November so we can have a little bit of conversation about it. Those three basic reasons why I think it's important, it's every four years we essentially have a term limit option. But when we have 12 years it seems to me, in an example time, in 12 years to present the community with what your vision, the individual vision, may be of any council member. And the real nature of the idea of having term limits is that if the politics of opportunity to open up the government to do people to present the community with the opportunity to serve, and if you can initiate it and hopefully participate for 12 years, that should be ample time to handle people were not on the council, may not have the great email list to contact sufficient numbers of people. Because we have no regular newspapers, no press, we'll give you a quick example, but if I may, the most important thing is that the Trappin and Profit Commission, I found out from going to the Sunshine Task Force meeting, that for a year and a half the Trappin and Profit Commission working with the jury, I should say, with each one council member in his life, decided that with the restriping of streets and I did it with the whole structure of streets as the notice and the city came out, was that there was a viable option to prevent hormones from popping in front of their homes. Now, no one was sitting in the middle of that, that. And once I found out about it, fortunately we had a really positive, with sharing at committing and she needs to be commended because she's taken strong stance against anyone garrering to suggest that we would do a little with popping in front of their homes. Grows. Now, I'm supposed to get five minutes left so as I still stand, I got two more quick minutes. Okay. and I got two more quick minutes. OK. Who had a vote? Well, the issue was, I remember the Ohio Council didn't know what the hell was going on. And I just passed traffic department commission almost several years ago. But it's about for a year and a half and 70,000. And 70,000 fees were paid to control. So that's one big issue. And in the notice that's from the street, which you are mentioning this, never mention that there was an option that was viable and was printed in the drill sure, at least it was a past 20 to 5 minute change I haven't finished. But it's never mentioned that no homeowner would be probably the same as home. So those are the kinds of problems we have. We also have problems with the rocket information coming out of the stadium right after we've done the theatrical of 013, and we'll bail it thrive in 126 with respect to the expectation but I'll get it today as you could be sure to act in the near future. But the other issue which was profoundly misleading and this is the last one, is that the burrito case and how, with respect to the letters, the L.A.G. Miss Magnory was that for a focus in the case, the jury came down, a judgment in favor of places in excess of a million dollars, the judge in legal tolerance and the JAL's and the judgment that was standing with verdict reduced it about 250,000. The truth of the matter is we have legal views of a million 764,747, I'm sorry, a million 764, also of a 747, 50. The total of our expenses in that case were $2,277,000, and $50,000. Now, we had a million dollars deductible at that time. As it last much of the result of all these cases, we wind up with a deductible of $3 million. And what did the city say? It was a victory because the Jewish down low discrimination. Well, they just had the liberal reprisals. So that kind of information is a problem. Well, if we let me say this, government service from the founders was not to be the same low discrimination? Well, they just have the legal reflectors. So that kind of information is a problem. Well, if we let me say this, government service from the founders was not to be a lifetime career. There was to be something that we followed periodically, giving what we could compare at the nation, what we were earning in the private sector. During the years, we spent in the government, but it would be, we would go back. We'd go back,, we would go back. We would go back. Now, we would have stayed up in a perpetuity. We would go back to our tribal lives and make the private practice. That's why I think the term of it, notwithstanding every four years dealing with these issues, is very significant. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any other calls? The next caller is former Mary Nancy Crassey. Hello, Nick. Hello, Nick, caller. And I'm here and I want to say hello to all of you to odd ways to do a count of meeting. Can you hear me do a account meeting. Can you hear me? Yes, please. Can you hear me? I hope. Yes, please. We can hear you. Okay. First of all, I'm calling on the term limit issue because I think it's a critically important thing to discuss. I know that people look at the ballot, but I've got to turn off the TV. Hold on to the seat. For anyone in the future, no, the television mute but has to be on or you can't function. What I wanted to say very basicly is you have 13 years, some of you. I want to give the people that voted for Mr. Wonderlake because he swallowed a nuclear bullet when he got up on that pencil. Nobody could have anticipated a pandemic and the shutdown and everything that all of you have gone through. But I'd like to see term limits. I'd like to see some leadership as when these riots or problems are going on. Get on channel 10. Don't assume everybody has a computer with them. I have three cell phones and I don't use any of them. Get on the TV and tell the people what's happening. All you have to do is zoom in to channel 10 and you can tell the entire community while they were looting or they were driving, really with Cam are talking about something really fluffy and I thought, wow, if she knew this was on she would yank it and stop it. So I asked you to please consider putting some term limits on the next ballot. And I think, you know, 13 years, this 13 years, and please continue the fiber optic project. Because without the fiber optic, none of you would even exist on my TV right now. The fiber optics and the technology of what is going to keep our city alive. And hopefully a big project will come in because the stores and the restaurants are just struggling beyond words. Thank you. Thank you, Ed. to everyone who's listening. There was a letter came by Mayor Cannabelle and Mayor Krasny asking that a journalist issued a request before council for discussion. And if there is some courage to move forward with that, we will put it on a certain session in the session. On the other course, we did it, no, not for knowledge and that is, but we do have written comment. We're, you can skip the first letter because that's, we just, we just test that so you can go to the second one. Okay, second comment starting from the comment two from Rabbi Silka Green. Here's a little Beverly Hills residence. Please give careful attention to my four serious recommendations. One, I propose a name change and better now be called the Lily Bossy Pond. Two, I propose that immediately the City Council permit our local Boeing allies to remain open. Three, I propose that arrangements be made as soon as possible to move the statue of Himes Solomon, the financial savior, during the American Revolution from its location in LA to Beverly Hills. Four, I propose that the City Council vote in favor of the Dodgers, but add that the P picking staff not be bound by the straight and the curve is Comment read some carry cats of Martin cats limited Dear City Council of Beverly Hills as LA County is at an all-time high in COVID-19 cases and the pandemic continues to be out of control Increasing daily and numbers we kindly request the City Council's Beverly Hills meeting on July 21, 2020. One, revisit the rent, recommencement date of August 1, 2020. Businesses and Beverly Hills, after the protests, the riots, to the crime and now the record breaking COVID-19 cases, are still struggling to regain any sales momentum. Please push rent, reccomendment, to a later date, when businesses are up and able to run at full capacity. There's little argument small businesses have borne the brunt of the economic well-down caused by the pandemic. Reopens are going backwards. To expect small businesses to go back the full rent is not possible. We need to also support as we use stilly time to renegotiate with our landlords. Two, reconsider the length of time to repay back rent. In your June 19th meeting, it was decided that back rent is due in six months. This is now an unreasonable time frame and creates another burden for the renter. Every legal, state small businesses businesses six months to repay landlords, while the SBA is giving loans for 30 year terms. The ordinance does not work for small business owners. A second full repayment of back rent in six months is basically pushing small businesses out of Beverly Hills where small businesses are the charm of our city. Thank you for your time and consideration of these most important matters. Comment four is from a Beverly Hills small business owner. Hello city council members. The commercial tent protections ordinance as updated on June 19th will force my business to close if it is not amended to reflect the current business climate and I am sure many other small businesses are in the same situation. As written, it requires small businesses to start paying full rent on August 1st. Paying full rent suggests that businesses, business, has returned to pre-covid levels, which is certainly not the case. For this ordinance, it requires all outstanding rent to be paid back by January 21, six months from now. If we haven't had sales the past few months and the future is so quite uncertain how are we supposed to pay full rent starting in two weeks and pay back rent on top of that. A lot has changed since June 19th their very little small business owners need support from their city. Fethi, this is the end of the comments. That concludes comments that are not on the agenda just for clarification purposes. Mayor, I wanted to let you know that the letter that had been received by former mayor's Bob Cannonbaum and former mayor Nisi Krazny have been received, but since they already spoke on the item and you did as well, we are going to simply include the letter within the record. Okay. Going on to the right-hand number A1, request by Vice-era Wunderlick, please consider a rent subsidy for tenants unable to pay rent due to so-compassive voted to the coronavirus COVID-19 pandemic. We know that's the other one. Yes. Good afternoon. I'm Will May, Vice Mayor and Council members. The Hill and Rahal is the deputy's actor. The Rothfeel's is the division here to record on the grounds of state resilience and able to pay rent with the COVID-19. Next slide, please. The matter before you change pursuance of request by vice mayor Wendellick on a rent subsidy for tenants and able to be elected to COVID-19. The algorithm with the background of the Beverly Hills COVID-19 cent-burying, March Ryan, and discussing the importance of the rest of the city and providing suggestions for what are the rest of the city provided, how the rest of the city should be provided, and how the rest of the city should be distributed and lost to conclude with the discussion. Next slide, please. March 15, 2020, the city and the United Planings, the existence of local emergency, the Summon Conception Team, or one of them, and the government of the Michigan Code. T-R-CNN-48 as an effective response to COVID-19. The city council ratified that local emergency and March 2020 as well as the next 20-0, O-28, O-5. Among those things, it was unreserved by the big green. The local emergency, however, it's not in up in debt to raise the transit center for the government. It's a financial effort. The census is the way the COVID-19, and those in the suit being safe or fair for a family member who is sick with COVID-19, experiencing its muleop, lost at hours of social income reduction from business owners or economic impacts related to COVID-19, which includes both salary and corporate,, compliance with the government or the state-owned self-quarantine or a worried congregation, and extraordinary out-of-pocket medical sentences are self-faring, which will cause this slight phase. When your illness is looked at many residents, what we face with, ebics, and severe, and really may be ready. All the small fraction that can is represented by the right to nine correct law and claims. Many can themselves understand the complexity of sickness of unlawful, container evictions and proceedings. So, if you know has five days to sponsor complaint, if the tenant misses that five day deadline, the landlord can request the court issued in fraudulent preposession of the unique and evict defense. If the tenants are represented by council, that council may be identified as a permanent defense and avoid as the trustful detention proceeding. The next may affect children enrolled in their own health and advice schools. As of May 2018, 42% of the total Beverly Hills Univites Gold District enrollment resided in Arts or Univ. Next place, and the city is a majority, rancher, population. Next slide please, and visit. Also options to consider. Meet your citizens by offering a ranch of cities to impose more restricted rank and folds. How does that secure rent as it becomes to you when the Earth is to the Earth is looked at? And provide things with meaningful rights to consult with people helpful. whatever way as it becomes to do when the Earth is to be around the lab or if we have ground feedback. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. Next slide. becomes a G. When the urgency ordinance is looked at, it's going to be most certain what they're going to be sent. It's going to be able to get rid of the lab or if we'll have ground feedback. Next slide. In considering eligibility consideration, we recommend that the LB such-as-one goes from those who filed a COVID-19 form with the same. And that would consist of three options. We could include all, is a hundred and sixty six households limited to RSO units which is a hundred and forty eight households or limited for that RSO units were rented to five thousand dollars for left that would equate to a hundred and forty households. In addition to eligibility factors it's an account that may consider's own income limitations or utilize those as well as by HUD as in the stable. Can we go to the next slide, please? And this is the high office fee as well as my income limit summary for our area. It includes a senior low, a 30% very low, 50% and low income at 80% of the area median income. And I just want to take events that's the gross income acquiring to the co-fair right brand list instead of $5.24. Next slide, please. We'll be involved with you as senior personnel. So first scenario would be a rent of $3,000 for three months, which is $3,000 maximum. This is what the senior love love of the district first decided may we're going to do, and then they limited it to $1,000. If we were to go with this answer for all those who fall that they form with us, that would be $166 applicants for a maximum of $1,000 to the positive quarter of $1,000. If we limited to those in RSA units, which is $148, you need to be afforded $4,000. And if we limit that further to RSO units with rents of $5,000, unless that would equate to $420,000 on maximum, so that it costs. It's very obvious, you know, we look at the amount of the tenant's status they can pay and it's exactly now the rest of them up to the amount that they cannot pay and it's exactly now that they cannot pay. And we only use RSO units of RSO, less than $5,000 because that's the only. We only have RSO data to be able to determine what the F-O-Rex is. And so the number of months for a one month subsidy for the maximum 60 cost of each4,3,510. For a two-month subsidy, $487,020, and for a three-month subsidy, it would be $730,530. Next slide, please. Direct payments to landlords and service payments received by the landlord during the service and it's continued occupancy by awarding a bit of imprisonment for-painment of rent. Joe's family services to fall by standing in the state directly against the landlords. The city already made peace to contract with Joe's family services that could be amended to include services to the fall by and by standing at percent as identified by the city. But the Senate would provide legal representation in the negotiations with landlords for replying to agreement. The city also are maintained to a contract that can be amended. Prior to receiving a check-solution, it's been required to utilize services of Benzetic for negotiating the meeting with landlords for all that, and to be very close. And finally, next slide, please. We offer that this will impact. So we've been getting 500 and $1, slide, things, we offer that this will impact. So we've identified $537,000 and those come from $153,150,000. I'm sorry for CDD funds, $17,000 from West Side City's Council of Government, and $213,000 from the CARES Act. Next slide, please. Now we ask that the Senate Council direct this, as to whether or not they want providers up for the, when to provide a subsidy to both the citizens, whether we're going to have income units, just to be some scenarios, and whether or not to amend bedding. I can't spoil you anything else. Do we have any questions? Let us go now to public programs. Yes, we do not want to call her. Mr. Mark Elliott. Our colleagues were putting this on the agenda. I want to say I appreciate the staff support from your ourselves. The advocacy report from your office. We have a few reports on the United Nations Registry in about two years, so the staff report does provide some important information. The residential comment concerns the proposed public city for the stability. The key figures in the staff report is that 166 ranking households are self-declared as materially affected by COVID. That's about 2% of renting households in the city. Why is that important? Because even the current pandemic said the similar show that 50% of renting households in the city were rent burdened, 30% were any rent burdened upon that in the public. And the tax rate was 3%. What I don't know is that the last figure is whether the proportion of affected households only has to take forward to increase throughout that for approximately the emergency period. And what proportion of those cost declared COVID affected households were able to make at least a partial payment. And what can about proportion of the natural infected by the landowner make coming to a P.O. for the law that we don't know. The staff abroad also provides another important figure to describe an average rental shortfall of deficit for the COVID effect of $1,600 per household that aggravates the $240,000-$2,000 monthly that's probably in the statute. So $1,500,000 months for COVID-19. You don't really know how that's going to calculate so there are more unknowns. I want to make my main point. That's the down-to-stages that the households are needed where it's absolutely. We also want to be the immediate under the proposed RIM-4-3 programs here, because the presented parameters include only households that areared as expected by COVID. So many household were effective, and being material-effective, in directly by COVID, or household-based tools are not to self-declared as expected by COVID. For whatever reason, they would be adequately excused. Yet they are every bit at risk of using their home for non-payment as well COVID-19 effective tenants. For example, I'm not telling you to be affected by COVID, but instead of presenting a tape that is following the form of the city that you are on savings to make the rent a customer. There are a lot of reasons why that happened. The letters from the landlord I've seen that. They've been giving the remindment of the half the pay that I went to that rent eventually. These kinds of pressure factors, and they chose to pay even if they're not entered in the rental subsidy program. So, this will conclude with one point. I think we should expand the subsidy pie. So, it don't look Jesus to go to a subsidy program. The stipulated data files are in the 60,000 and baseline, CDBG funds, exclusive or care of that, and they'd be applicable to the subsequent program. So the city got a lot more money this fiscal year from CDBG even excluding the does that. About $37,000, two sort of CDBG funds in this discussion of staff of working community services in June, two-thirds of that, you know, since the same time, the laws were allocated to senior activities, the balance from a housing visualization program, and two-thirds of that, we have no vision of money. It even goes to multi-family health, we want to see the fund from here. So if we are a regional dining city, I propose that we make that sound a tad bigger and then we expand our ability to include all deserving, leading, renting households just as Councilmember Wandawek qualified in the subsidy program for those last year. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you for putting this on the agenda and to everyone and all the people that helped pair it around. Thank you for putting together the report. I was a very big report. We as a city as a city council, deep and include that have provided the benefit to our city to provide for a diversion protection. I mean, it supports our community and promotes stable population. It helps our residents with the continued ability to maintain their homes. But it stands now. If it stands, don't pay the rent, it's really the landlords are going to bear that burden of the lost revenue. And so that was my logic that suggesting a program in which the city would try to apply a pot of money that would be paid directly to the landlord. So we'd be helping the tenants and only be helping the landlords. And you could mean stress it. So it wouldn't be a subsidy for people who have the ability to pay rent. Earlier in a different context, I had spoken about assistance with renstabilization, and if they were money available, then we could provide for an even more stringent renstabilization program for people who would have greater needs. This again would be something similar in that they wouldn't be landlords. We'd have to bear the burden of that. It'd be able to have the full rent changes according to the rent stabilization ordinance. People with some growing needs, with big, big, and some additional protection. We can consider that separately, and that's not what's in front of us right now, but as we move the finalized rent stabilization ordinance, that is something that I've discussed to consider. This city of LA and other cities have said it's money to disappear. The city of LA said it's $100 million. And so the city is that we're talking about $1 million to the city of Beverly Hills. Apparently, we've identified a potential funding of $500,000 that might be within federal of us right now. I have specific comments, specific questions, but always for my natural audacity to address those things. I just wanted to provide some introduction at this point for why I am asked this to be from the agenda. So thank you. Thank you. So if you would have Council Member, comment is starting with Council Member, well thank you very much. So first off, I think I understand and the things I like. So I like the notion of doing this and I do think that using existing organizations like Batsetic and Jewish Family Services make a lot of sense. So we don't have to create an infrastructure which would eat away at whatever dollars we set aside. So I like that as a structure for doing this. My comments made up some with Mr. Elliott. I agree with the vice-maker right now we We have to focus on the COVID-19 piece. And obviously it was a bigger universe out there. But it seems to me that as I thought about this, we have to discuss the criteria. So for instance, the fact that somebody made, makes a made, had a loser, a whatever income level is really relevant now because I may not be working. So to tag you anything to a prior income level, I don't think, makes sense. So that leads me to the next piece of this, which is we really want this to be needs based. And so to that end, the question is, what exactly does that mean? If we provide a partial subsidy, if somebody's got a $3,000 a month rent deal, and we agree we're going to give them $1,000, and they have no way of making up the difference. Is that the most effective use of that thousand dollars? Or do we better to take that thousand dollars knowing that person at three thousand dollar rent level? We're not going to be able to say this is a treat our share. There's almost a medical question who can we say? As we say, well, you know, we know that we can take that $1,000. And there are two people out there who's ranked in $1,500. And if we took that money and gave them their 1,000 plus half of this size, we would say both of them in their apartment, even though we can't say the portion of $3,000. So I somehow we have to understand, begin to understand what this need really looks like so that we get the biggest benefit. But the worst thing that we could do, I think, is deny some people who are potentially able to stand or apartment that ability while providing money to people who cannot. And I know those are hard decisions. I do think that money is not infinite. And for living with a finite budget, I think we need to pay attention to that. So to, I think that on the other side of this equation, the question is, what is the sustainability of the landlord? So if there are regardless of the tenant, if there are landlords who have the ability to sustain through this epidemic, would we want to be in the business of giving them money when there are probably much small, mom and pop landlords who don't have that ability to sustain. And so, if you think that the landlords' viability be part of the questions that we ask in an effort to sustain those small mom and pops. And then I think we get into maybe more granular questions. I saw your comments about the schools as cogent. And the question is, do you create a priority for families with kids in our schools? So if you meet all the other criteria, and now we come down to this next level of criteria, should we, should we, it's a question, I think we should, but it's a question to the council, should we give a benefit to those with kids in the schools or perhaps teachers within our district. So I see that as another level of consideration. My last name is all. Is there maybe a social back level? I don't know. The one of the questions I think is important too, but they've time together. There are people who are currently not making money because they're hiatus and furlough or whatever, but when this is over they will go back to work and they will be able to make bread. There are others where that's not the case. Where they will remain at work. And so it ties to the viability of keeping them in their apartment at all. So if we know that somebody is not going to be able to reestablish their income, and likely will not be able to maintain their rent payment. Is this rent we want to subsidize? It's a question. I don't know the answer. But these are the kinds of things that I ran for when we have to, if we're going to be, because money isn't interested. I think these are the kinds of questions we're going to have to get through so that we see the biggest benefit for the dollars that we're about to put at this. I think I have some concerns over six amounts of money. If somebody spends $1,200 a month and we give them the $1,000, it makes a big difference if they rent $4,000 a month. That same thousand is so important. So does that weigh in this? I don't know but it's hard to imagine that somebody who is interested in making this $3000 difference in the men out of thousands could have opened its open and keep them in their apartment. But I guess we can ask that. And although I could probably go on a lot, the only other thing I would ask is this. As we look at this program, there are probably landlords who are struggling, who's tenants have not filed the COVID papers. They are likely to be so. And so I guess I would ask the question. I think we at least see from the landlords, should we help them in some way? Should we at least go through some exercise to say, well, you know, three tenants in your building? What are you saying? And should we knock on their door and see if we help them to out these papers? I don't think about small landlords. I'm not talking about big landlords. I'm talking about small landlords, because it may well be, as Mr. Elliott said, that some people have involved these papers. The landlords know we're in trouble, but nobody else knows that they're in trouble. And so many meetings have a conversation with landlords about, you know, other people who are in trouble. So all in, I think the logistics of this are not simple. I absolutely believe that it's the right thing to do. I do think of a program that lasts three months makes some sense. If we have a decimal funding going forward, I think we should consider it. I think we have to stop with all the trouble that we have. It can take us a little time to figure out how to apply this. But I'm all for this and those of you who might search that. Thank you. As a person, is it my skills to go to Council Member of Office? Thank you, Mayor. And I do have a few questions and comments as well. So, Doug Hill off of Mark Elliott Elliott and where Gilliam said I actually was contacted by a resident who also happens to be a small mom and pop landlord and they have a tenant who the last number of months has not paid rent due to COVID and however this tenant did not file and I don't know however, this Senate did not file, and I don't know what the reason is, did not file for COVID relief with the Senate, and just let the divine Lord know that this Senate is moving, and the Senate is moving out of state. So I'm just wondering if this would be an opportunity with this fun cover situation like that. I mean, this has always been an issue that I had been concerned about from day one when we were talking about the RSO was a situation where attendance really couldn't pay the rent understandably, but then moved and then, you know, the landlord was left with a number of months of not paid rents and now the tenant has left. So here's an example of a situation where that didn't occur. So, you know, I think it's something we need to look at to see how we can help both the tenant in a lab or in a situation like this. I have a feeling that this situation might rear itself up again as well. So I'd like to be proactive on that. My question is about confidentiality with this program. I feel quite certain that tenants would want to keep their confidentiality if they are taking that. Ellen is up something that we can ensure. Yes, so I think that that would be done by using the third-party contact that the contacters have found the services. So I identify those who are eligible. Okay, they could go top. And it would be something that the city make it as an issue not at all. A question regarding the timing of payment. What's being proposed is that it would occur after the emergency is lifted. And my concern regarding that is how long this emergency is essentially last. Although, once again, I'm just going to close the door. There's some noise. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. So, I think that's a good question. about the timing of when this would go in effect. As I understand it, it's being triggered when the emergency is over. And as we know, when this thing before us in March, you know, we were told, this is a two-week stand-over and here we are many months later. And I feel for both the tenants and landlord that if we wait till the emergency to be over who knows how long that may be and that perhaps we think about a way that both for the tenants and landlords that they can start since we have funding that they can start getting a to when the emergency over wanted to bring that up. Also to what Mark Elliott said, and that's something that I had written as well, is before COVID, that occurred, we had talked about it and thanks to the Vice Mayor for bringing it up. We're having a fund to help tenants in landlording, and clearly even back when we were, you know, having the meetings with, you know, Dr. Seng and that was something that both the landlords and the tenants agreed on. There were a few issues that I was warned because I think it clearly helps everybody. So, you know, I agree that we should look at this fun beyond just COVID, even though it's something that right now COVID is first and foremost on our mind. But I do think that obviously is doing a program and I'm not sure where any of their cities that are doing a similar program to what we're proposing. Is there any best practices that we can learn from from another city that's doing it well? I don't know many other cities over in Los Angeles. I know the county is working on something, getting something together. They don't have anything yet. And so the only thing that's clearly identifiable is the cities. Although I'm a person, I do like the high grade, you know, maybe doing something now for the landlords and then also a time attempt at when the ordinances looked at money breaks in a small sprucial. And the Los Angeles is doing that. They're using all of their $100,000, $100,000 now. So that's the difference basically between ours and theirs. Okay, thank you. So you, Black Jewish Family Services that would coordinate this program and amend or contract as well as big-sregate also to coordinate this program and amend or contract. But grantee and amending the contract that there's going to be a cost involved to that. Do we, is there a cost involved to that and if there is, doing a $1B? So we have received, I have not asked for the cost for a bedside ticket. However, as a sound source, it has provided us a cost of approximately $98,000 to the next teleprogrammed expense. Okay, and that money would be used separate from these funds correct. We're not going to be taking it out of the 500 is that other money that we have elsewhere that we could be using because I relate to take the money out from trying to support the tenants and the landlords. I think the part original intent was to take it out of this fund, but if Council wanted us to find the funding elsewhere, we could come back for an appropriation at a later time. Well, my concern is if each organization takes, you know, again, I'm just starting out a number and maybe they won't, but if each check out $100,000, we've gone from $500,000 to $300,000. So, let's see if there's a way to, you know, again, we're all happy for money right now and, you know, when you have an assoundance pretty dry, but if there is a way I would rather have these fun folks, you know, where we'd like it to go. So I also want to add that, you know, from my perspective, I would like to, you know, I'm happy that we have found this money, but I would like for us to try, you know, number one, as I said earlier, this is a program that I feel that we need to continue, obviously during COVID, but even when COVID is a thing that I feel that we need to continue, obviously during COVID, but even when COVID is the thing of the past, which I would hope would be sooner than later, but I do think this is a program that we should have in our community. I would like for us to, we look at this, try and see if there is more funding and I would like to be able to broaden the universe and be able to provide for more people. So I agree with Mark Elliott with that. And I also agree that we should make a priority for the families in our school district. But I'm very happy this is for us. And I'm hoping that we can even broaden it and have more funding and be able to start paying people now so they can have the anxiety of that. So I want to first of all, thank the Vice Mayor for this leadership on this. And I can clearly support it. Thank you. Thank you, John. It was a call who was on the line. Would you mind if I take that call and open it before he start? Yeah, no worries. Mayor, the color of her name is Wayna Wayne. Color please go ahead. Hi, I am being listening to all the talking and I appreciate all the members for concern for the landlords. And I personally, it's is the seniors and I retired, self-employed person and I don't think you're fun, it's enough. I appalled to who the last speaker that's talking about more fun to locate because my tenant hasn't paid me for the last four months and it asks up to like almost $20,000 and that's the big amount of money and we don't know whether they're actually making money or not even though the store starts open and the real estate sales is never stopped. However, there is that there's a safe set for the payback for the commercial tenant. I wonder if the residential tenant can also get a payback, we pay back safe steps. So that at least the landlord will have something to look forward to. And also timing to start early to take doesn't have to wait for the COVID-19 crisis to pass because we don't know. This is a virus, you know. And Governor Newsom extended to September. That is already at a lot of stress to the landlord like I am. So I hope that the council will come to decision when a time comes that no more delay for the tenant to pay their landlord. You know, I I'm like it couldn't sleep. I'm living in a state-to-day theft that I'm not receiving the rent to pay for my mortgage. Even though the lending office, the lending company, you know, they're willing to help, but most of them willing to help for the first three months, but now it's expanded to another three months. So it really is devastating situation. And I appreciate you all putting consideration for Leninos more. It's not all Leninos has a lot of money, not like that. I mean, I rely on my rent to pay for my mortgage, to pay for my daily expenses and everything else. Thank you very much. Thank you. We now have a little help from the room. Thank you. So I agree with much of it, and many of it comes to them and they also like to thank the Vice-Nare for bringing this up. This is something that, in the past, I know a number of us have also said that we can instead be doing. And I think it's great that we've found the grant funds for $537,000. I feel that right away we can look at doing this as an ongoing program. But right now I think we get out of $1 million differently of city funding to this. I agree with Julian's point about mean testing, not just for candidates, but also the way of boards. I don't think we want to be subsidizing necessarily way of boards that don't think we want to be subsidizing necessarily way of lords that don't start to like the previous call or we really want to help the mom and opt. I think that's not a mean goal, especially since there are limited resources. I also think that we need to be able to get a very, there's another coded support bill in Congress. I think we should strike while the iron is on to a very strong letter, and after a while, it is to help to try and ask the federal government to bail out real people, small and more, small businesses rather than the big corporations and banks and the big developers and banks, and the big, the developers really say, no, no, we say, out there in the past, in the past, all the bailouts, and the big, these multi-sillion dollar banks and institutions that are too big to fail. And in fact, the result is made in many cases, if you look out to the 2008 recession, the dispossession of people who in many cases lost their houses. So the government bailed out the big banks that, in some cases, they went on to foreclose upon people. In some cases, those people became renters in their own homes. And in this case, really, it should be the government should be bailing out real people. The government should be bailing out the little guy, the little people, and not major corporations. And so I think we can instead, and it isn't whatever we do, take a strong position for us to federal government that any stimulus bill or any bailout is aimed and I said not to trickle down, but if anything to trickle up, you know, I think that we've unfortunately taken the wrong tax for the federal government has in the past and we see what the results are. If anyone's interested in it, there's a very enlightening book by someone called Erin Gwyneth Folk Home Readers, which talks about the results of the 10,000 in any recess and in the morning crisis. And we're in a position right now where we can see not just in our state, but in the country, tens of millions of people who are in the verge of being evicted. And so it's really time for us, collectively, at all levels of government to step up and to help real people. So I'm very supportive of this. And as I think we've been able to discuss further the specifics, but I would be in favor of broadening it as well since not everybody. They have, you know, who is impacted, may have filled out the forms, but we're going to need to do things testing as we thought about the past. They just... Thank you, Vice President. Well, thank you to everybody who's here support. A question about the funds that we've identified so far. Are those possible funds or are we confident that those funds are available? We are confident that available. Some of the funds are coming later this year. The CDBT funds that have been identified as we've come in October of this year, the CDBT funds that have been identified as a leaf bank come in October of this year, but we figure as we roll out the program, those funds will be made available. And that's great. When I first started speaking about this, I was proposing a million dollar fund, which was scaling the city of LA out of $1 million. And especially given that we're reasonably content of getting $500,000 from grant money, I do think that's doable. It's a tough budget time for a certain way. But as we work through the budget process, it's a process of a settled security priority. And I do think this is a high priority rating. And I think within the choices that we make is to where we spend our money. We would be able to identify with an appropriate priority given to this and some additional amount of money that would be available. And agreeing with Council Member Balsy, I'd like to see the money that we're talking about, be the money that's dedicated to helping people as opposed to the money that we go for the service providers would be administering the program. As others have said, we still have to get to these specifics of this. I know it's certain criteria to be accepted, I'm agreeing that it can go beyond, but we seem to already file the forms. It could be criteria for both the tenant and the landlord and the means of the means testing, but with like a lot of what we do, it can't get too complicated. So whether it becomes a cap on the amount of payment, some fixed amount, it would become very, very complicated if we're trying to figure out and individualize the map for each particular person. So as we try to design the specifics of this, there is always that balance of random names for the perfect fit versus making it not too complicated, not too onerous, and there are things that we're going to have to give up for in terms of making it not too complicated. One of the concerns that was raised would be, there is a crossbook right here and I think that Councilmember Gollum mentioned this, would be the situation of a triad, where some people even with some help might not be able to stay in the city. I think this is one of the different contexts though, because this is not just up to the tenant, this is up to the landlord as well. So let's say I can't just be able to stay in the city in that city and really wouldn't get the benefit of the red subsidy. The landlord, so we could be getting that benefit, if the appropriate landlord was, so as needs, there would be other landlord as well. And so I think that's so, would be useful money. as well, and so I think that still would be useful. We've had some support to make this an ongoing program to deal with issues other than just an immediate pandemic, and I certainly support that, and I'm actually supporting those things as well. Oh, at this time, I also think maybe it was just a bit more robust to mention this, that it should have been sooner than waiting for the end of the emergency, especially if we're getting money from the grant. And one of the more difficult stuff for now, why would we be waiting to make some payments to them to help them with the revenue that we're not receiving, especially if it would be means testing, and we're not getting that into the smaller landlords who have their own expenses and who have their own needs now. So I don't see a reason for us to have to wait until we look at the emergency ordinance. And then I think those's a mechanism to that. Okay, thank you. And I was over a couple of points. This is still a work of progress and, Illinois, I suspect you have some other idea of what other communities are doing and you'll present that to us because we certainly have a concurrence, not unity, this is a program that we want to go forward with. Yeah, also do that. And you know, I agree with this with a lot of comments and we just rescate some of them. I do think we need to get the best benefit for the dollar. And in terms of saving a landlord and saving a tenant together, I think that's the priority. And that may be the part of what the customer rules are about free of charge. But I don't think we can ignore this effect that it does help a landlord, even if it doesn't help a tenant, but it keeps saying both a landlord and a tenant should be our priorities, we can do that. Same with sales and rules that we can get, and that's the priority that we need to have also. If you agree, we need to see the augment, the grant funds if we can do it on scale. That's LA-indicted versus population. If that's the energy strike for, obviously we're not able to come up with the kind of money L.A. as, but I think, proportionally, we should be able to approach that. I don't know if there's any change of the New Thuros Act that is going to be an active whether or not that's going to provide any release or any way of funding, but if that's something that you need to be right on top of that and look at it. I think that need to get a little out of it and the security is your listening to this and think that something that we should get out. You know our law is just to this possible. We're not going to be able to get that close to success. In order to be a San Joseon Ken kin, it's going to get complicated. So we're going to have to sacrifice one of you. It's not going to be a perfect fit. It is not complicated. So we're going to have to find a midway point where it is perfect, as it can be and as less complicated as it can be. But in the words, really, really meaness, I think we're going to need to do a little bit of work on that. And I don't know what formula of the adventures are pointing out, but I think that's important to look at as to how we are going to see this through the remaining. We all know that one size does not fit all. It's just another area that one size does not fit all. So we wish that I think we have a direction, and we look forward to moving this tone back to us in a format that we can further discuss. Thank you. Okay, and we're going to go to start at 515. So we'll get a source between on the agenda. We'll go into the number 8-2. Expansion, we open the eighth program for businesses to utilize the eighth floor outdoor space, including possible full closure or ledilogen. And we will start with a fight, Laura and the back of the way down, and yes. All right. Good afternoon, Mayor and Chumple. I'm Laura Byrie, Marketing and Economic Sustainability Manager for the City of Beverly Hill. Starting me for today's presentation of Magdalena Davis, our Special Events and Filming Coordinator. Before I begin, I do want to acknowledge and thank the entire team that is working behind the scenes on the Open VH program, many of which are on this call today to answer any questions that the council may have regarding the program. Specifically, I want to highlight we have the River Hill Fire Department staff with us, the River Hill Police Department, our Transportation Division, our Public Works Department staff is with us, serving health police department, our transportation division, our public works department staff, including parking and metro teams. We have building and safety, code enforcement, planning, IT, and of course our special events division staff who routinely review all the intake and push out all the permit for the OpenVH program. So it truly takes a village to make this program work and I'm so grateful for the team that we have. So the presentation today is about expanding the OpenVH program for businesses to utilize additional outdoor space, including possible full tree closure or lane closures. And I know we came to you last week to talk to you about OpenVH. I'm going to have Meglyn and David go through the basics of the presentation and then we're going to wrap it up at the end to kind of address what today's topic is specifically about. I'm going to let you take it from here and we'll go to the next one. Thank you, Laura. Someone who reviewed just very briefly, basically, they may have an expanded audience for today's Council meeting. What is OpenBH BH. Open BH is an opportunity to use public right away, including sidewalks, public and private parking lots, and street areas that are known as parklets and parking-metered places to expand not only outdoor dining, but a range of services for retailers and other businesses and badly held. We so far have to effectively have a married of businesses do a variety of the options that you see before you, including outdoor dining. What's before you today is a possible expansion of OpenBH to include, as Laura said, possible full-length closures or full-street closures beyond just the Parklit model. I'm happy to report on a few numbers that we have to help us make this decision. Next slide slide please. Here's a map of the current open BH businesses. As you may see from this presentation, there are quite a few that surround the business triangle area, as well as other different work spans of areas, including a little bit, Las-Diantiga, Robertson, and the Walshacardi. We have plenty of sex current open and ph businesses that are taking advantage of this outdoor program. Next slide. These are the number of businesses that are in the queue for permits thus far. I'm happy to say that we have a total of 14 businesses who have turned in their applications and their proposals to be considered. This is for a variety of uses, and you've once again see the expansive nature of this program. Most of these are for outdoor dining but I will acknowledge that as of an announcement yet today from our state, we have more than ever in the queue for a variety of businesses, including salons for air and nails. Let's move right away. Finally, this is a map of our open BH Parklets, both current and proposed. As of right now, we only have one current Parklet up and running, but you can see a north-everevily there at other restaurant. However, there are 12 additional Parklet locations proposed, all currently within the business triangle area. As you can see, there is a concentration for outdoor dining with parklets as you've not had any other businesses proposed parklet uses beyond that. And for our final map slide. This is your overview map. All of these different businesses, whether current, in the queue or in the process, have collaborated and co-op of very creative proposals for how to use sidewalk space or parking area space. As of right now you can see on the staff there are total of 43 businesses who are either in the process of getting their permits or currently have one or have proposals in for the staff that learning earlier to review. I also want to make note that what you don't see on the staff is the additional 28 businesses that staff has outreach to or that have inquired directly to us based on promotion from the Chamber or other partners that might want to take advantage of this program as well. With the 28 ingredients and the 48 that we have, well over 60 businesses here in the city, that are looking to get creative and work within the restrictions based on with the coronavirus. I'm going to slide please. I'll take you back to Laura for possible California consideration. The one I know that the gradient down below does not include anything for the maps that you see, except for the last one of individual hardclips. Thank you, Magdalena. So what we're here for you today to discuss for health and consideration is first and foremost, continuing to cover the cost of the traffic control safety measures for each individual park list. Those range at a cost of $2,000. We did cover those costs for OBRA, which includes a yield stop so that it's a barrier like you would see if you were going into a parking space. It does include white delineator cones, so those are cones typically it can be orange or white in color and then also include the cautionary sign as well. The cost for those traffic safety measures are roughly at approximately $2,000 and we could also cover the cost of the barriers as well to go with that. The second thing we'd like for Tesla consideration is to provide a threshold for business support in order to execute possibly a lane closure or a full street closure, that goes along the gray hand that you see at the bottom there, how we could expand the open VH program even further. And finally, we would like to approve open for the city staff to administratively review and approve expansion models through the current open VH process. As many of you know, when it comes to youth before, when it comes to our special event permits, if it involves a lane closure or a street closure, we take it to our special events VH on, which is two of our counseling numbers, and then we take it to the larger full council for approval. Tonight, today, this afternoon, we'd like to be able to request that the staff is able to use the open VH process to be able to exit these permits and move them forward at the staff level. We will of course do the extensive outreach necessary in order to make sure that the impact of businesses and residential population in the neighboring areas are aware of any type of closure that will impact them whether it be a full tree closure or a lane closure of sorts. The individual cartless, you do notify those businesses that are going to be impacted and specifically when the cartless is in front of those businesses that are going to be impacted, and specifically when the cartlet is in front of the business or before you get the impacting in the adjacent business. So those are the items for consideration there. And in the final next slide, please. The further discussion we'd like to have with Council this afternoon, I'd directed at your last city council meeting and it has been directed by City Council's two staff over the last several weeks. It's to do additional outreach and both the Chamber and City staff have outreach to businesses on South Beverly Drive, specifically between Gregory Way and Charlieville, as well as to the businesses on Canmorec, Canmorec, Canmorec, and Drive between South Santa Monica Boulevard and Brighton and North Canmorec and Drive between Brighton Way and Dayton Way. We know we have several comments that you have received, so we know there is public comment for you on this afternoon's item, and obviously I shared over the last couple weeks additional public comment that we've received from the New Pacific. That concludes our presentation and we'll turn it back over to you, Mayor. Okay, thank you, and if we can go to public comments, who would we help people on? Yes, we have. The first caller is Racelle Meredith. Go ahead, caller. Hi, thank you very much. Are you able to hear me clearly? Yes, we can. Great. So I am calling with Eduardo Balli of E Balli here, and we're really calling in for two measures. Number one, to thank the Open Beverly Hills team specifically Laura and Magdalena. They have things fantastic and working with us in a very collaborative way. And we are in full support of doing a closure of cannon. We think that not only would it be great for businesses who, as another caller mentioned earlier, kind of the backbone of the city, not the big huge conglomerates with the small and pop shops. And we also think that it would be really a fantastic measure to cut down on what we're seeing as some negative impacts of kind of the new COVID regulation. Number one, Canon in specific is becoming a speedway for people at night, dragging who here. This has always been an issue, but it's becoming an even heightened one. And in some of our neighboring restaurants we're seeing that there are just blatant quilting of regulation such that people are showing up in groups of 10 or 12. They're not wearing masks. And it's really just not a safe environment that federal health is allowing to be cultivated. So really we do want the streets to be closed maybe from 6 o'clock on. We understand that we have retail establishments that do need to traffic earlier in the day. But at that point, we do think that it would make a lot of sense, not only for safety of the citizens here, but it's also more generally. I'd also like to speak just more, I guess even more broadly than that, on what we see as a failure on Canon. And I put this in an email recently to the OpenBHG as well as to you mayor and to the city council and not sure if you all saw it, but on May 30th at Royal and I stood outside of E-Ball B and defended it while people were coming to lose. We defended the pharmacy next door. We called multiple times through the police and nobody would come. They were on Beverly, they were on Roedale, but Canon for some reason is the red headed step child and it was completely forgot. And we feel like even with that in front of us, even with everything that's going on with COVID, we have been very open and very collaborative with health, with Beverly Hills. Really, anybody who needs to come here and check to make sure that we're doing what we are, we measure how far table guard we don't let people wait out front. They have to go into a reservation queue. They have to wait in their cars. And I just want to counsel the greater Beverly Hills enforcement committees. But as we move forward, as partners in this respect, it really must be collaborative. It cannot be one-sided. Having code enforcement officers come and do a measure and find that we're one in short. And then, you know, kind of taking this parking, parking meter mentality to business owners right now. As I said, we are the backbone and this is kind of what's poking us in the eye right now. Do you want to add anything? OK, so that was my comment. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. Next call, where is Michael Newman. Good afternoon. It's a pleasure to see you from your faces. And we know how difficult it is for council and staff who are also responsible for this continuous work and progress. One issue that's kind of interesting to me is that you have great representatives of all our city departments, including the task force, the business task force and the reader. But there's not a single medical specialist in this area of concern. And it causes me a great concern that there's not a medical specialist for COVID to interpret this program as it comes into being. Our majority have a conscience and a sense of risk. It's really hard as you folks and our staff are making decisions for us about life and death as well as measuring an acceptable number of afflictions. One problem with this is a certain number of afflicted will be for the rest of their lives inflicted. Many of the inflicted will experience a horrible torturous flight towards healthiness. During the medical task force, I personally felt kind of ashamed as I didn't make better use of the time I got to speak. I was also quite disappointed that all we got were easy to rationalize generalities from the medical specialist present. Prior to the opening, we had a state flat line of 75 cases and 5 deaths. Now, lacking of test data or contact tracing, Beverly Hills associated death toll has held it 8 for some time. And that's a good thing, I guess. It's a leg, but it's also a lacking indicator, so we don't know what's going to come before us. However, a case number has the last Saturday and Sunday stood at 496. At Dr. Stadium in Los Angeles, they're able to do 6,000 tests per day. And in Beverly Hills, since the beginning of the epidemic, we've only done 6,000 tests. The tire time that we've been facing the virus. There has been some discussion about contact testing and contact tracing. Without that, how do we know our rules for restaurants are working to push COVID away? The minority gay and night population evolved with luxury, restaurant touring and shopping have taken a center stage with a true proactive business task force leader. With their own assertive manager, Health and Safety has no actual leader, no proactive health task force to compete and qualify retail tactics. You know, there's a tactic that retailers and restaurant tours want to have accomplished. Our extremely competitive society retail and restaurants as businesses always need experts to keep them accountable and to never take precedence over health. The county has provided and is back through to Beverly Hills and of course our code enforcers are doing the best they can. But neither are really medical practitioners. As was strongly addressed at the last council meeting, customers lack a wine to wear face protection and has been a real bad problem. And council's decided to be much stricter about that but we're still only being stric with an unscientific range of six feet. I can see it's time to wrap it up. I can say that Nell Fahler has a 34-year-old. Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Thank you. The next call is Mr. Todd Johnson. A little bit of an air Friedman and Council has stated that I'm Todd Johnson, the President and CEO of the Chamber. It's certainly a pleasure to see everyone. I wholeheartedly support this program and its expansion. I have been walking around with your staff and talking to restaurants. Most of you know my background is restaurant, so I feel for all the restaurants that are struggling in our city. I think the more word we can get out about the open program the better and I think it needs expand even over to a lot of the whole city frankly. Camden I know the odds have been interesting doing some things there and we're in a different world right now. And as much as I think enforcement is necessary, because I do believe that most of our restaurants are following guidelines. I truly do. But there are some that don't. And it has to be a consequence for that. And it's not fair for some, about to lump the whole industry in as a whole, when there's only a couple that are better, that are not falling rules. And as far as I'm concerned, it starts from the top, you have to manage your people. We all know that everyone out and about today, have a camera out, are looking. And you're, I'm sure you're getting plenty of calls about I saw this, I saw that. So we're going to know when something is not right, and I'd rather be, wow, look how safe our city is. And that's what I think we need to work to, and it's going to take us all to do that. We will certainly do our part and able to help with that. The other thing I think we could potentially take a look at is Elizabeth on and I have been talking and she came up with an idea of I remember when the grading system came out, the ABC grading system, and is there a potential for a COVID grading system? We don't know how long this is going to be with this but I think it is. I have submitted this idea to some friends that I have with the CRA with the California Rush Out Association. We obviously would need to talk to the county and probably get to the mayor of the city of LA but we could say look let our city be a pilot for this, let our city show you how safe we are and it is safe to come and eat at our facilities, it's safe to come and shop in our facilities and we have the proof of it. Well I think that would be great. So we would do our part in that as well. And I'd be glad to talk to you as groups, so obviously I have individuals on that. But I applaud the odds for something up with the idea. But I have a question for Todd. Go ahead. Todd, the restaurant may be confined, but how safe do you think we are when you have customers and people off the street who even went and started with the police refused to give in their driver's license, refused to make even harass and to be infected towards the police and then walked away. What does that say? I've heard instances of people who were afraid and then walk away. What does that say? I've heard instantaneously that people who were afraid and less heavily dealt, what is your feeling on enforcing an enforcement towards people who basically are telling a police to buzz off, maybe in more strong and stronger language. How did we deal with that? Because I'm guessing you'll agree that to tear off a lot of other customers, they're leading to figure out a way to deal with that. And how do we deal with that before I do? Well, I agree with you. When I ran the restaurant, I told my staff that there were consequences if you didn't follow the rules. So the same way the guests, the guests didn't follow the rules. I would ask the guests and say politely say, you know, it was around the bout way, but I'd say, you know what, there's probably a better restaurant for you to go to. And there's why you're kicking me out, and I'm telling you there's somewhere else for you to go. So I think that if there are people that are arrogant and won't wear masks or causing issues for everyone around there, they should be dealt with accordingly. Because- Well, the word yellow does is the police say, we're in general exploitation, what's your name, and they say I'm not giving you my name, they get, you know, obnoxious. They, you know, what is the best thing to do for the police? They're not telling, I'm sorry, you know, they need to tell, you know, you're going to have to arrest you. I mean, should not people who refuse to give their names for you in the same way that someone who has pulled over for moving by length if they refuse to give the police their driver's license to infer shouldn't we treat those people in the state of Washington? Because we've been there against it, just over this past week, and a dozens of people who have basically flouted the police to ask through you and walk off. And that I can tell you, I prefer stands for people who have said, that's here the way. They're not gonna come back to Beverly Hills because they are not sure that we've got this under control. So. But this is a bigger issue, John, than just restaurants. It is the citywide. And it's something that we should deal with citywise on a tag question. It's about what you're talking about. I'm wondering if I have support for treating that human justice? I think we have to talk about it when it's happening on the streets and it's happening at the retail store and it's happening at the parks and it's happening with people on the sidewalk. So I think it's a very broad slacks with people. And I think we have to address that. I agree that I'm wondering if Todd would have a problem as someone who represents the restaurants is out in front of the restaurant when someone was doing this, the police needed to make her an arrest simply because these people were not following the rules. I agree that I didn't do any. I agree that's what we should end up doing, but I agree but if a police officer comes and says And if the person is having a concert, then they're going to go away and not be in that restaurant. I agree, but if a police officer comes and says, sir, you need to wear your mask in that person to screw you, freedom, you know, all this kind of nonsense. And then the police says, I'm going to give you a ticket. And then that person makes the scene and says, I'm not getting you my name and want it away. I want to know if we have the support of the business community to actually enforce, as I said, the similar situation would be if someone was pulled over and refused to get the place of their license to their name. I'm wondering if the business community would support that kind of enforcement? I think if you have a quick hand, I probably can use the go-ad need to go back and take that back. I was going to say I have a board meeting in a week and I'm glad to take it there. Personally, yes, I would support it because there's a consequence for bad behavior. And I'm not a police officer, but the police are one of the hardest jobs there is now because of everything that's happened over the last six months. And if you got people that continued to do this, that ruin it for the ones that follow the rules, they need to be dealt with accordingly and slapping a hand and all this stuff. No, I don't think it's enough. And that's me, but I will bring this up to my board and I will be glad to do the answer within a week. And last maybe we can agenda this for the next meeting that we need to maybe revisit policies or whether we make certain cases of this to meet or so on a rather than admit it straight and fine. Maybe we can have an assessment that agenda is that and talk about that in in wake of all of this new experience and information that we're getting. We'd be glad to forgive you. Thank you all for the comment. Next follow us David, Mayor Herrundi, Heselay. Hi everyone, I'm Arrow Mayor and I'm a member of the City Council. I would say to you for letting me speak. I'm kind of behalf of my family, not Nub Chamber, but it's been very similar to what Todd just mentioned. First, I love Todd's idea about COVID-19 systems. The one issue that I have, and a lot of people that speak about this issue, is one of our most well-known restaurants that I got hit with COVID about a couple weeks ago. And it's still on for matters to any on the health, you know, in county website. And so if someone goes on the website, they will say, oh, that restaurant got hit with COVID. We don't know if it was yesterday, but the week ago or months ago, and if we start forward three weeks or two months from now, someone will have a negative attitude towards that restaurant that we have, that's definitely oh, that word's trying to promote a safe city. And unfortunately, no one can contain a COVID outbreak if someone has the asymptomatic condition. So I highly recommend that COVID system, as far as I mentioned So I highly recommend that COVID system, that's probably just mentioned. I also recommend potentially lobbying the county to have basin terms to when that COVID outbreak happened and if it was fixed and a lot of stuff. So I think that's super important. Next, I want to talk a little bit about what Meredith talked about and what Todd talked about in terms of enforcement. I walked through the Beverly Hills yesterday, Beverly, I just talked about it with Todd Talkbite for the enforcement. I mean, I want to see if there are bills on the upstreet Beverly, Canon. There was never a restaurant that it seemed like they weren't being forced and perhaps they got tickets. But the problem that I personally see is that tickets are just not expensive enough. 100 dollars, 300 dollars, 500 dollars, clients may not want someone to comply. There's a moral, and then there's a cost code. So potentially, you know, on repeat offenders if you make it costly enough where they don't stick quite, I think that's something that you should consider. And then the last thing that I really want to talk about, which is the bulk of my farmers, my thoughts today are the OpenDH program. I've talked to a number of businesses. I've heard them all in general. This Open BH program is an incredible asset to the restaurant committee as well as the retail. I know for us, for us, those very difficult to have dining on the outdoor sidewalk areas. We don't have too much sidewalk, but through Open BH, there is a likely, I are going to take our rooftop through that program which is a great access to the city. But I do want to, as I say, for the standard sidewalk, not street closure because I do think even after our very important for ballet to go and pick up and all that other jazz for the local restaurant. But I do want to advocate for a lane closure on Canondra from Santa Monica all the way down to the cold and sapper's fogo in and have one traffic lane removed for any block that we should go. And I know for a fact that the majority of the restaurants on our side, which is the scene, a quittin and and dating way, are in support, and I talked to another of the restaurants that are in support on the Northern Box. So I highly recommend that link, voter. Thank you very much and look forward to the progress of this open BS program. Thanks. Thank you. Can I ask David a question, please? Sure. Very, very long to go back. Thanks. Thank you. May I ask David a question, please? Sure. Very, very long. I don't know. Just a question in terms of the lane closure. Are you suggesting that the lane closure would be for more seating? Are you suggesting that the lane closure should be for more pedestrian? Be able to lock? What is your vision of the lane closure? So if you look at our street in particular right between twisted and dated, if you run across that are on our block are sugarfish masros and the amount of feet that they can fit directly over their frontage is not enough. So I envision it as areas where one can die. Because currently you don't have that but five or six quicks clearance in certain areas because of the way the streets can figure. So I envision it as places where pedestrians can walk not only but also areas where restaurants can have more seating. So for instance, masters should they would have at least 15 tables where they could actually put their, put their customers in. And I think his most important is the difference between a lane floater and a park with it is that park with you get rid of parking spaces, get rid of ballet, you get rid of drop off the pickup. And I think that by having one name closed you can still bring out those parking stops. So that's why it's really important. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next call. We have no more callists, that we do have written comments. Peter, please fill in. Okay. The first of many comments is from John Carroll of Carroll Custom. This letter is in response to the email regarding the possible cloners can drive for a more outdoor restaurant biting. I've lived or worked in Beverly Hills my whole life. My family and I have had business in Beverly Hills, in Gingsley for over 70 years. We also own property on Canon Drive. I want to say I am vehemently against this possible plan. I am also a current sidewalk extension for outdoor dining but the the closed street cutting off access to retail stores, mental buildings, salons, when they are allowed to open and parking structures is simply the wrong idea. Not to mention we will be losing valuable parking spots on Canon Drive. I have eaten at most of the restaurant on the 400 block of North Canon Drive and unfortunately none of the outdoor dining seems full at lunch or dinner. Or I think they're not enough people going out of their homes yet to facilitate the need to close off the entire block. This would kill off an already fragile retail situation. The stores on Cannon would be cut off completely and we are already struggling as it is to get customers in our stores. This would make it nearly impossible for conduct business. I'm curious what the Beverly Hills Fire Department says about this possible plan. I don't make my compliments lightly. I have deep reach to this city. And even though none of us have gone through what we are facing now, creating a hardship for other businesses on Can Drive from Vietnam is a disaster. I'm happy to discuss my thoughts with anyone who would like to reach out to me. The next comment is from Gordon Bloom, partner at Presbyterian. Dear city leaders, thank you for meeting in the discussing ways we can work together for our prospective businesses, for our prospective businesses. The efforts that those ways would greatly help us for us to survive and keep an economy in our special city. Our family restaurant, fish, and fish, and fish, and fish, and fish, are not yet viable with current restrictions to operate. Please note, crustaceans and two other restaurant concepts are clustered together and can greatly improve our past to survive with a partial lane closure on Bedford Drive from South Santa Monica Boulevard, Mid-Block, to Brighton. On the other hand, we would greatly disadvantage if lane closures and street closures existed elsewhere in Beverly Hills, and we were deprived of the same consideration in front of our restaurant. We are on one point as a road vehicle, and are on a multilating one-way street providing the most accommodating and safe existing situation to actually implement a partial lane buzzer. He is seriously consider our request, and together help us realize a safe and economic viable improvement for local businesses located on Bedford and Beverly Beverly Hills as well as other areas in Beverly Hills that can accommodate safe business practices. The next comment is from Paul Dean or Director of Special Projects, the Beverly Hills City Council as a representative of a property owner at 245 South Beverly Drive. We are in full support of the Open Beverly Hills B.A. plan to make our streets more walkable. Our building is located on South Beverly Drive between Gregory Way and Charles Elbow, of our one of the three streets in this fashion for lane closure. Give a front-pandemic and safety measures that require more outdoor dining activities. Use utilizing streets for restaurants and other commercial activities will help area businesses and also make the streets more pedestrian-friendly. We look forward to more outdoor dining options. The next comment is from Vicki Men's, or Sinan restaurant. And Vicki Men's, owner of Sinan restaurant. And Bikki Men's owner is Yan Restaurant on North Cannon. We are grateful for the support and consideration of allowing restaurants to widen their area for outdoor dining. I am in full support of having tables on the surrounding sidewalk and the use of the parking spots at the meters with proper barriers provided. I do not, however, wish their complete state closure because much of our business is takeout and delivery and offering the convenience of curbside pickup for our valued patrons. The next comment is some Vaseline Cokes-Sewles, owner name is Vasili Cook-Cirilus. I own an upgrade, Esquieto Luka at 340 North Cannon Drive, Beverly Hills. I wanted to reach out and express my opinion and concern regarding the Open DH program. The last five or so months have been very difficult for me with us in Beverly Hills community. We all have endured hardship regarding COVID closures and mandates. I am in support of the OpenDX program as it relates to using sidewalks and city-owned right of ways for use for outdoor dining, etc. I unfortunately do not support the closure of Canon Drive. It would be selfish of me to promote a policy which benefits me while negatively impacts my neighbors. Accessibility is key in a well-in-a business always to operate and expand in ways that benefit each personally while not negatively impacting others. Closing access to the street will make it more difficult for our community to reach and support us. I hope you take this email wholeheartedly and do what is best for our community. I also want to express my sincere appreciation for all public officials, police and fire departments in the city of Beverly Hills. I've worked my whole life to be able to own and operate a restaurant in the city and appreciate all your hard work. Next comment is from Bradley H. Mindenlin, managing member of oral capital advisors LLC. Dear Mayor and members of the City Council of Beverly Hills, please accept this email as 100% support of the Open VH. In these unprecedented times, we must stand together and think of innovative and strategic methods to increase in a safe way, dining and commerce in the wonderful and amazing city of Beverly Hills. Open BH is such a creative and safe strategy. We fully support it and encourage the city to immediately approve this great idea. We look forward to many more dinners at the wonderful restaurants in Beverly Hills. Thank you for your time. The next comment is from Lisa Menland. We are very much enjoyed dining outside at Spago. And this unfortunate time is nice that our favorite restaurants are doing their best to provide a service. The next comment is from Richard Palmer of Mallbury Street, Victoria, North Cannon Drive. I'm happy the way it is. Next comment is from Dan Myers, Director of Food and Beverage at 4C from SoTel. This is a great program that is done well to change the whole field of Beverly Hills even beyond the pandemic. Thank you for being so thoughtful and considering this unique and creative approach. What our hotel reopens, I look forward to finding creative areas adjacent to our restaurants to add to the list of businesses in our community that are taking advantage of this program. Next comment is from Susan and Ellen Tivoli. Dear Mayor Freeman and members of the City Council, we love the new outdoor dining in Beverly Hills and feel that it is safe and gives people like us a way to get out of the house in a reasonable environment under today's circumstances. This Friday night, we have dinner reservations at Spago and on Sunday, we will be at the Palm. We believe masks are essential along with social distancing between cables. The chances of infection will still remain low. Ellen and I appreciate the work that the Beverly Hills Council does, and we look forward to eating alfesto at many more Beverly Hills restaurants. The next comment is from Mary Neale. I'm ready to support the proposed expansion of the Open DH program along with businesses that temporarily expand services through adjacent areas. Decades ago, the city of Beverly Hills was on the forefront of transforming its commercial center into a true hub of activity. By building and subsidizing parking, the city encouraged people to get out of their cars and stole the streets of their vehicles and join the many restaurants and shops that moved into the area. That, in turn, has resulted in not only the cubic dynamic and exciting place to be, but also the Crucial Sales Tax Regulatory for the city's budget. As has happened in most cities, the pandemic has resulted in a brutal hit to both social interaction and sales tax receipts, and cities must design ways to safely keep their course thriving. As barely knows this already more, one way to do just that is to move much of the activity outdoors, that only as this safer, but it also keeps up the buzz of activity. Maintaining and expanding this program keeps the city as a drop in shoppers and boners and makes the city more resilient. European cities have been successfully doing this for years. Who doesn't love to sit on a sidewalks that they may glass of wine and lost when the people go by? Beverly Hills can heed the call of its residents, visitors and businesses and keep it for robust and safe at the same time. Next comment is from Barbara Lazarath, Spargo's Beverly Hills. Honorable Mayor and City Council members, this is an edited version of the email I sent in. As a 30-year resident of Beverly Hills, a multiple business owner and involved community citizen, I would like to express my strong support for the expansion of the OpenBH program. Many business owners, whose livelihoods have been threatened by revenue loss, had to demonstrate percolating flexibility, innovativeness, and resiliency during the metro construction. The city's the Azons were tirelessly deprived of any of those in the most dire situations. COVID-19 has further challenged every sector of our community and forced cooperation and reorganization in both the public and private sectors of our city. Today there is an opportunity for transformation to revitalize the bulb city, economically and emotionally. Businesses from hospitality to retail have an experience in unprecedented hardship. Some have closed never to reopen. Today, we are asking that the City Council support the creative and safe approach to outboard dining in our extraordinary city. We understand there will be a need to be striving to regarding ordinances and protective measures to make this imaginative open-beach program a smart one as well, wherein we consider all citizens, stakeholders and residents. Those who feel extremely uncomfortable are staying home and can continue to shelter at home. Even without providing and to go restaurants, we'll still experience financial challenges as we do. But we've been able to put some people back to work and keep our restaurants in business until the time that science has a solution. Spalgo would let the seed others be able to reopen in this way. Restaurants are a community, we are part in this way. Restrooms are a community. We are part of the fabric of the life of a community. We are comfortable in the expertise of city planning and traffic control to make these proposals workable for all stakeholders and residents. The times are unprecedented in the visionary solutions. Next comment is from Maria Gauria. E for an IELTS strongly support and help that city can provide the restaurants to survive these first times. We are in full support of the requests made by the Chamber of Commerce because they will do the task to maintain our businesses being open. After being part of the community for the past 40 years, we are unfortunately at risk to close down, and that will also mean that about 90 people will be laid off, and some of them have been working for more than 20 years, and consider the rest of their home. We greatly appreciate whatever the city can do to give rest to us more space outside and help in creating these new cadios very costly in a moment when money are very scarce. So that all of us can weather these hopefully temporary conditions that have created an unprecedented toll on all businesses and try to create a sort of normal and enjoyable experience for residents and visitors so to keep up the brand and image of Beverly Hills. Thanks for listening for all your work and consideration. The next comment, the last comment, is some Daniel Zuckier. Dear council members, I am writing on the essence of Zuckier Poor Family who has owned and operated A&W's chocolates at 444 North Canada rides since September 2000. We would like to start by thanking you for keeping the people's safety and Beverly Hills your highest priority. We also want to thank you for your countless efforts to save our business community with ingenuity, innovation, and creative solutions. We feel blessed and fortunate to have a privilege of living and working in a city whose government truly strives to protect all of the city's stakeholders. Regarding the proposed lane street closure for the 400-block of North Cannon Drive because staff's Santa Monica is in a right way, so I really believe that a full street closure would have an absolutely negative impact on our business and on other retail establishments. Our sales skewed towards large orders making the need for parking near our businesses, our business, and important component of our operations. At this moment, a large portion of our customers are elderly and or have mobility issues which require direct access for business from their cars. Also, we cannot begin distressing the impact of the city's new curbside parking spots that have unmuted customers who are anxious about their health and opportunities to safely leave their homes and pick up a functioning bite of rural safe and more shop. In fact, the percentage of curbside orders continues to increase. As a number of coronavirus cases grows and electronic healthy, so does the percentage of our customers who do not feel safe entering our business or even waiting outside near other patients where their oversleep prepared. Although it may seem that many people in our community are comfortable being outdoors in a socially distance setting illustrated by the increasing number of diners patronizing out their patios. We are noticing that the majority of our sales are made over the tone or online for pickup or delivery. This being the case we believe that full-lane industry closures without ample curbside and traditional parking available will have a dexter level of act or business as well as the other retail establishments. Unlike our neighboring restaurants, we do not have the ability to sell our product outside and would not be able to take advantage of a permanent full-lane or street closure. The assetlet proposals we would like to offer, making hand-in-drive and potentially others a two-lane one-way street to allow for replacing the two outer lanes with street parking and curbs side pickup parking. This will allow businesses to expand their operations into the current lane of parking spaces. Keeping the street and all lanes operating as usual but allowing restaurants to use the parking spaces directly in front of their businesses for additional seating. This would, however, remember the total number of parking spaces in the downtown area. Full-speed call years asker's 6pm. Specifically on-can drive, the bushes that surround palm trees can be removed to increase sidewalk use. Restaurants might be able to fit an additional number of tables. In front of our business, the bush does not allow for there to be more than two people waiting to enter and offer pedestrian to pass while so if you distance them. On a personal note, we're going to list this direction you decide to take. Please keep our safety as your highest priority. As I grab around Los Angeles, I see many areas, Main Street and Santa Monica, for example, where creative outdoor dining is the clusters and forms of people congregating in close proximity and without masks. If the city is indeed moving forward with fostering a more social environment to increase in economic activity, please commit to unapologetically enforcing mask mandates and social distancing requirements. Nothing will kill our economy faster than an outbreak. That's the end of comments for item 82. We'll take you ahead. Who might be late called in? Mayor, I can choose a public comment. Let me see. But then we will close public comment and go through often remember questions and comments. So I was often a little bit thinking, thank you Mayor. I guess I have a couple of questions. Have we please inspire, have opine on all of the things that we've done? What are they on all these things we're talking about? And how does that work? Does it work kind of on a business by business is seeped by street basis? What are we doing there? I can start. Let me do the chat. Yeah. All that Megalindus is starting. And then we do have representatives from our fire department on the line that can pop into the screen as well as our police department on the line that can pop into the screen while Megalyn is going to go ahead and start talking. For the individual process for each business whether it be sidewalk or parklets, we do have a review process by which PV and fire weigh in on each and every single layout. Fire always use for access point, engenses, edits, making certain, so hydrants or other valves are blocked. And you reuse it from all safety components, including best-year access, ADA, and vehicle. And I'll let it see. Those are presented in this too. Frequently answer the emails and layoff that I send them online. I'll let them weigh in on these street closures and other deposits. Ethnicity. From the police force perspective, obviously, our base concern is safety. And the tolerance and or you know, parklets, what are they using to keep those areas safe? We want them into the traffic. There's an x-delay, somehow get into these areas. So we need to work with making sure that those mechanisms are secure. There are some some flight concerns, especially some of the more thoroughfares like La Siena and that there will be a lot of concern regarding traffic issues on that. I haven't seen any of that. I mean, it was other partlets, but we would obviously make adjustments in the arrangements in the states of it. Mike, Jan, or Steve, do you want to... Yeah, from a fire perspective, we review all the plans and we work with Maggie Delayne and her team for quite some time now. So, typically, we'll be checking for the the hydrants makes for those clear, all the exit ways from every building and adjacent building are clear. Any apartment connects and those are clear and uninstructed. And then for larger scale closures, he's really familiar with what we need. We require a 12 foot fire lane, similar to where we come of with bold and next night out. So we can support any one of these measures that the council would like to go with Thank you. Thank you both Laura or Megalena what does it cost us to do each one of these? Sure. So when it comes to the traffic control measures for an individual part lit, you're looking at about $2,000 would be the expense that we are saying that the city would take on at both hard costs. Now we are waiving the permit costs that are associated with these. So our special event permit costs is typically $800 plus and it lasts for about 30 days. Most of these businesses are going to be utilizing their parcels and their outdoor expansion for much longer than 30 days. They anticipate them being auto-renew. With conversations with us, with code enforcement and making sure that the business can renew their permit and they follow the guidelines of their permit. And so that is both costs will then be ways. Now when it comes to full tree closures or partial lane closures, there are costs associated with that as well and I'll let Maggie and the speaker back. Absolutely. So as well, there is both hard costs, and then as well as waiver or loss in certain revenue, particularly with parking revenue. Your average parking meter in the business triangle is $289 per meter per month and on top of that, really, it's 300. Let's give them to us by parking staff, who is seven that. So, there are some several of those revenue losses to be considered, as well as those as well as those permit costs. The K-rail and the other costs that we have associated with it if you work during parklets would have to come from a K-rail vendor. That's your other hard costs that's looking at the site of staff time. And we'll say for full street closures in the past, it's been an accident between waivers and hard costs, although $23,000 per full statement. And in terms of using the key rails and things, or lane closures or just four parklets, is that included in your $2,000 cost? Yes, I can speak to what's included included and I know we have public works of presenters on the line as well. Should they let type in if I misspeak I finally learned what we all have been to the front of a parking space. So we all stop a delineator as well as safety signage and additional key realm that might be in this area. Our inclusion that $2000 and all that, to speak more specifically another day, say a month, three, next to you, to 10. So you currently probably have, yes, we are not really pretty cost material. A life I could work with, I'm just saying it's perfect. So if you're really able to have this, you could have come very easily. So we're just looking at the real stuff and two science and the number of risks that we've got. And that's $2,000 you talked about. Part of the public list. Thank you. Can we give an end to the situation to the alleys and what happens to the alleys? Sure. What I'd like to do now is actually do a couple of things and thank you for bringing up the alley. I'd like to let Erin from our Transportation Division pop into the screen so that you can stick to that. I'm also going to cue to Merugan from our IT staff to fill up our alleys map. So thank you for taking off this question. We do have a PowerPoint specific to Ali to really speak to what some options could be. Some of our Ali's have more of a one-way directional and some have the ability to have a different capacity. So I'm going to let Erin kind of speak to some of that. Take it away. Sir, for the Twitter box itself a South Beverly on both sides. There are one directional alleys going northbound on the east side and the ones outbound on the west side. They do those alleys, both of them are a West Transyl neighborhood. The common denominator of all all ages, there is some Austrian parking that they are early used and there's a lot of activity in the alleys as far as deliveries, as well with every state place. Moving into one of those two, number three, the next one, just to the forehead block of cannon. Again, one way alleys, some parking back behind, both are self-bound alleys. And if we skip two slides over, we have the three-end block of most cannon. The next one, those are northbound alleys. Again, a little less parking on this block, but there is some parking behind some of the businesses. OK. So it's a little hard to tell. Okay. So, it's a little hard to tell. Is there any usable space for these allies? There are not many of the allies themselves. There are some businesses. There's limited use in the parking lots, be part of that parking lot getting what we drive through there. They are, I would say, have to completely pull so that that would be in the rallies and be the individual businesses that would have some parking potentially available. There's also a lot of activity with the trust and other services behind there. And we do have one business currently that has a PIE 4 and successfully received an open VH permit to be able to utilize these parking spaces behind their business that is near a MADE located on North Cannon Drive. And so they are taking the parking space behind their business and turning that into an open-dhf application to give you dining back there facing the alley. And that's it, we saw a last day in the garden, that is where we're. And they run on a Southern Atlantic Boulevard. So those are two of them that changed their parking lots into after then. We've heard a lot about congestion and in particular, the lack of social distancing, perhaps the lack of masks, as people wait for some of these restaurants obviously as the outdoor dining expanse, the potential for that could increase. We thought about some concepts for how we would manage that. One of the options is to be able to view some part lists that would be specific to waiting areas. The feedback that we have from the VISTAs is that if they're going to be taken away the parking in front of them, they would prefer to have it be a revenue-just seating space in a sense that they could have dining in there and be able to have food and beverage and alcohol and cocktail serves to be able to generate that revenue. But if that is the desire of Council, we could designate specific areas that we take over and say that this is going to be a waiting area or a corralled sort. We're supposed to wait safely socially distant in that area to be able to provide additional expansion for those waiting to die. And where would we put that, Laura? If we take it in an entire lane of traffic, where would we put this? So I will defer to our city engineer who's on the call and daring to kind of talk about someone who needs to be the safer locations that we could look at for something along the line. I'm asking for a list of the streets for the pick one. I'm looking to take a list of things out of the way or take a can, and neither one. And if we were to, or as we have, take it to the lane and use that for tables, where could we create a space where we could socially distance people and have them still wait? And not necessarily serve them anything. This is just the way we're here. So I mean, at this point, we have to be proud of it and partly because we're fortunate to have a part in the part in space. I really have to look at it on the part in space as we will be an integration or nearby part in space that we've been creating. At the end, we have one part, part in that. And that is instead of the first step, we have to build they'll know it'll be perfect. It really does vary on these ideas, these are the feelings for the other parts, the only group we certainly know from looking. Those scenarios, I think, are created groups and projects in the group. Is there an opportunity to be used some of the alley spaces as a staging area. Probably yes, because it's super popular people who long before you part a table, I think that's a far far possible than somebody who's fixed in the alley. And I know some of the restaurants are sort of doing like on demand. We'll call you on your cell and you come and we'll see you. Have we explored that with the restaurants at large and if we for instance committed a garage or part of a garage by the north of the south of both to that function where somebody can go and park and then wait for a phone call to get to their table. Do we have the capacity today based on our diminished traffic to be able to accommodate that. If that question is from you, I mean, I think you know parking broaders, in some areas that are in some class in the past. Aaron, are we taking a look at using our parking broaders as staking areas in some way or other? Then, look at it in particular, in some way or other. Then I looked at it in particular, but that's what we've definitely looked at. My concern for this is what has also been anecdotal, which is the fact that the gathering isn't necessarily just an anticipation of dining, but that of itself is experiential and people sort of want to be there for the ambience of it all and obviously sitting in your car doesn't give you that. The question is how to do both of that and still be safe and socially different. So I'll stop, but let me say I'm supportive of the idea. I think you've done a great job. I think this was important because, the long thing that came across loud and clear to me was, there seems to be consensus about what the business to many, both retail and restaurant, is comfortable with. And as we got to this, so that was last week's conversation, we had heard anecdotal conversation just like, no, I don't. I want to close, no, I don't. And for me, I thought it was important that we spend this time and hear what I think was a pretty clear consensus about what business community is supportive of. So with that, I will certainly support it and encourage you to keep it going. I would say that I would like to explore some sort of staging area, staging areas that are obviously socially distant people where I'm asked. I also think that we have to, if we expand these parklets or whatever the particular implementation of this strategy for a restaurant, I think that we have to ensure that nobody gets into it, nobody gets past whatever the gate barricaded without being having a mask on, maybe without having your temperature taken. But I think that we really have to become the gatekeeper for people who are passing into these things and the policeman of the war through the areas that surround them. So anyway, we can become better gatekeepers and policemen for that as something I would encourage. But that said, I was going to continue the program. The one other question you may have me not know is the number of restaurants that have not taken and any restaurants are there in our city. How many of we not heard from? What is the potential universe of this if we really were to expand? And what are we looking at? 5%, or 10%, or 20% of our... This is a thing to me. You can get that. We can look further. Yeah, we'll get back to you with that answer. We're glad with the Chamber of Commerce. I know they have a complete listing that they put up on their website of the red jumps that are currently open and providing outdoor dining that are currently open, that are participating in an open VH and that are currently open offering pickup or takeout services. But we can definitely work further with them to kind of get some numbers and crunch that for you. All right. Well, good luck. Good luck and good work. And thank you. Okay. Thank you. And we both have a number of boxes. Thank you. And both of you, Dr. Murray-Boss. Thank you. Firstly, I want to say a huge, huge commendous thank you to Laura and Megalena, and Louise and Fire, and anybody from the staff that has worked to make this program what it is so far. You know, from my perspective, I think it is an incredible, incredible program. And I'm just so impressed that you were able to pivot so quickly and have these restaurants be able to survive and as best as possible. If I want to truly with all my heart, thank you for that. I really appreciate everyone in the community does. Do you have some questions and thoughts? So regarding the treatment permit, it's 30 days in linear renewal. Is there any specific guidelines to get a renewal? Or is this automatic? So far there are no automatic renewals for our prevent system. You do have to be applied and this allows us to evaluate a few different things. Whether or not your layout has to be the same, whether or not health order has to be the same, and also your operating hours. In addition, on the deep fire, there's quite a few different departments to put an on-turn off system. Note this could be regards to violations. This could be regards to changes that have been requested from the businesses. Or perhaps even in the past month, we've had a request from neighbors to change as super businesses have come on an offline with their ability to have service such as a salon being extra-rechted on. So it does give us the ability to reevaluate as a resuppment. Most restants that they have, it came their out will resuppent a lay out and not be patient and be reviewed in their group rather quickly so they don't have had any violations or instances that themselves are neighbors. Perfect. So I think you answered my next question was, do we, before you renew, do you evaluate whether the restaurant is doing well in terms of social distancing, whether they're ensuring that their employees as well as the members that are, you know, joining or wearing, you know, the face coverings and such. So is that also part of what you're looking at in terms of making them analysis? I believe we have a member of our code of course, the team, or the head of it on the line as well, but yeah, if I can say, we do have an integrated internal system. So luckily that not only are officers in the field able to access the permit and the approved layout that's uploaded in the moment, but the business is also so so hama copy up, but they're also able to record any compliance issues or any written citations or violations. Recently we know there has been quite a few that have been addressed and those would be noted in our internal system and been able to be addressed either with the different layouts or even if it got to that point, units have measures with the business. As in, not renewing the permits or since in the administrative permit we can revoke it as well, administratively through a violation that filed with City staff and document. Okay, great. So, when you're speaking to a business regarding being part of the OpenBH program, whether it's Parkland, you know, using a parking lot if they have it, you know, street closers, do you offer all of the options to them and let them know that, you know, they can consider having, uh, seating on the sidewalk where they can, uh, ask if, uh, having the street clos, do you give them all options for them to consider? Yes, we give them a variety of options. It's an all-acquired menu that they get to pick from. And they can add to it and they can start at one level and then add more to their buffet of options that they get to look at. Additionally, we do offer these for staff to come out and do site visits. It includes a site visit from our transportation engineer, as well as myself, and Magdalena, or other team members that can go out and walk the field with them and really give them ideas and creative solutions. We also showed them pictures from other cities and other communities that we've personally visited and talked to if they need ideas about what to imagine that they could possibly do here in the menu and they can make in-trucks. Pretty much. You know, if it works and it's instant clean, that's wonderful. I know that the items for discussion today that you wanted us to look at was South Beverly Drive between Breggar and Charlieville, Ken and Dodd, Santa Monica between Brighton Way, Ken and Dodd between Brighton and Dayton. And I'm assuming that during this time you did go out to many of the restaurants and businesses on the streets and gave them the opportunity to pick interest from the menu to see if they wanted to purchase it correct. So we did get quite as you call today from members of businesses on the street. We heard from E-Balding. Since we do have, yes, we do have, do we have somebody from the police department on this call because the woman from E-Baldi was talking about Michael. We're talking about Canon drive being a speedway. So I just wanted to, I'm not going to have to learn what you call, but a little bit because she was complaining that there's two routes speeding up and down Canon drive. So if we can do some more enforcement and look into it. She did say, thank you, but that she was interested in closing industry. We did hear from John Carroll who said, no, Vicki Manson said no. The restaurant Luca who said no, Mulberry said they're fine where they are and I know that they are using this sidewalk doing a wonderful job there. And Adelwice also on the kin was not interested in the streetcores or on the kin. One to talk to you, Laura Magdalena, on the list of restaurants. You know, I know that you had misunderstood that there was 26 with 14 applicants, applications on the way and then I think the number came to 43. Just in my own memory, you know, because I've been doing my own promoting of this program. I know that Matthew Heasez in a parking lot, Mulberry on Ken and his on the sidewalk. Puerto Villas, I believe, is looking to do a park light, is that correct? I'm Ken and I'm a sidewalk. Puerto Vía, I believe, is looking to do a parklet. Is that correct? I'm Ken. I'm a wilder. Wally is interested in doing a parklet on Ken. Is that right? They have a proposal, but not yet a plan yet, but correct. And we obviously know what style of is doing, which is wonderful. So, Miguel, Mr. Chow is looking to get your parklets on sidewalk on Camden, correct? That's correct. Those students don't know about the proof for sidewalk, along with M-Fend and Ocean Prime are meeting with staff tomorrow to complete their process for doing a parklet. So, Camden will have pretty much one more block essentially in Parkland, it's a sounds like correct. But the exception of a driveway, that's correct. There will be very long parklets on Camden. So when we have the Rano on Santa Monica Boulevard that's doing the parking lot, South Beverly, Grel is doing a parking, using their parking lots, that right? That's correct. They've recently been approved for that use and it started yesterday. Fantastic and that's on self-reliant drive. We know about all run north-ferbally drive and Sridha also they're going to be doing the parkway as well. They have not yet applied for a parkway but they have been revered for their sidewalk and back parking lot. So do we are we marketing this? I mean, I know the marketing open-bass program, but are we also marketing the restaurants that are participating? Whether it's on our website, whether it's on social media, whether it's through the chamber that people can think, oh, I'm going to have dinner and Beverly Hills. These are the list of restaurants that are available to us outside. I mean, I've done my own business on what I'm aware of, but I know that there's many more coming in, probably many that I didn't write. Do we have a list that people can access that we can start sharing? So people when they think you get that going out, I know we have done that when the restaurants were not allowed to be open. And we were just going to take out and drop a type of thing. Now that we have this program, I think it would be a great marketing opportunity. Is that something we started yet? We have. So we were to the Chamber of Commerce that have then complete a audit of the business community to find which rest on through offering outdoor dining because many have already had these two outdoor dining for many years before OPMBHU's and became a reality. And so they have a complete list on their website. We do point folks to that. The conference and business bureau has also been promoting that in partnership with us on that. And we also have been a couple social posts as well. I know Keith Sterling, I believe, is on the line. They can speak to that as well if you'd like. And we certainly look forward to promoting the program even more. We're looking forward to doing some outreach to Eater LA and a couple others to do some features on it. We've got a wonderful feature on Channel 4 at the 11-A-Clock News Hour regarding our programs. And we are continuing to see interest from other news outlets about our program as well. So it's going to be an exciting topic so we get more of those part lists up and running and the buzz is out there. Thank you. Can I keep you from up? Do we have a list currently on the website of all the restaurants that are open, that are participating in an open beach. We do have a list, yes, but we can definitely work to make it more prominent. And continue to the promotion as Laura mentioned. We have done significant promotion through many venues, our social media, through mainstream media, working with our partners. But I agree that we can continue to push it out to various channels, but we will do that. And I think what I've seen on social media, it's been more like we highlight perhaps one restaurant at a time, and what I would suggest is I like the whole program and highlight all the restaurants so that people can think of when they're thinking about Beverly Hills that they can think about coming to our city with many different restaurants around different parts of our city, from Las Vegas to other parts of the city, different types of food and crispy price points, et cetera, that so it's more than just over gunnail at one end of the time I think it would be great to really get the breath of what we've done in such a short period of time. But I'd ask that we consider doing that. And I also hope the Chamber do that as well, just like we did when we were doing the takeout and menu. George. George? George? I'm aware that he had spoken through a restaurant for on North Canada who said that they would consider supporting having the street closed on North Canada or everything felt bad. In order to do that, they have the expectation that the city would provide to core to you, LaBregana. that the city would provide decor to your library? Yes, some of the folks that we have spoken to have an expectation that the city is going to participate in decorating it. And so that's the consideration for us. And we do also come at a cost. I know we talked about what it would cost it, but the key rails and the basic infrastructure but a consideration is for clients, the trees, or things like that could get very costly as well. So that's something we need to consider. Right, because in the report, if it's at the closest street, it would be between 12,000 to 26,000. So, what's the difference between 12,000 to 26,000? What's it all wide as for it? I can see to that, I may. So there's a couple considerations and the primary one as Captain Hill reference earlier is safety, having a partial enclosure or full requires K-Rails or other barricades to ensure complete safety of those dining or being in the street at your best end. I will say for the duration of the time and the link that we're talking about three are the other two considerations when it comes to these safety measures as we do rent them rather than own these concrete key rails. The other considerations for the span, I can be noted, are of course the revenue loss that were incurred, is included, you've included both locks, as well as these waves and hard costs in there. So it truly is dependent on the span of the street, the duration of time that it would be up, both are considerations for that rather big gap. Larry, if we were to close the street and have seating on the street, if God forbid somebody to trip to a fell, would the city be liable for that? If we close the street for and put seating on the street, or, you know, how would that work? Because, you know, people think of streets, streets you know as a driving access as opposed to dining and such so is there any liability issue for us to do that or are we okay on that? There's a liability issue for us we would want to be ensured and a different sort of on the restaurants, insurance policy, and we'd want them to identify a certain injuries that arose out of using the conflicts in this way. But now, I'm going to be any different than if it's all on the street anyway. We're going to shoot every time some people on the street, which is different. Because we actually inspect the streets. We don't necessarily expect this parking area for defects. But it's part of the street. There it is. You usually don't want on this parking area. That was my thing. I think this, again, a Maya can, I'm not a lawyer, but I would think there's an expectation for a sidewalk to be safe to walk, but I'm not sure that people necessarily expect that they're going to be walking during a roadway, for example. I'm also aware for the park lips, they tried it even out. I saw what they did in an all-round and they put a green carpet on the ground to even it out so it's not tripping housing. So I would imagine if we were to do something like that, if we were to do something on the street where cars go, we would have to try and find a way to make sure that it is safe. Question for police and fire in terms of access when we close the street. Do you have any concerns about that? The first problem our concern will be obviously that we can gain access down one, I was told that it was only going to be one lane, or if it's a whole street closure, then that's something else that we'll need to look into. But, well, that's not the end of the road. One of the things that is being progressed is the full street closure. That's why I'm asking. As long as we can get down there to assist, we have to go on put obviously in or through the alleyways to get there to assist on any situation and to take the same goals for the fire department. They just need to be able to gain access in one fast car and another. Okay. So, I didn't say this before in terms of my concerns about a full street closure and I again want to say what they are. My biggest concern is about a crowd control. I think right now during COVID we have to be very concerned about the social distancing and not having a lot of people gathering in one spot, not having to feel like a promenade where people, you know, can kind of hang out and have hundreds of people. Now, if we were in COVID, I'd be the first one saying, well, do this, and have events and such, but you know, we're in a global pandemic. So, for my concern, that's my number one issue that I have is the element of having too many people gathering in one place. I'm also concerned, again, we're talking about a full-string closure, and a circulation of cars, and I know even if we're talking about a full street closure and a circulation of cars. And I know even if we're talking about self-verbaly drive, making sure that we don't divert traffic to the residential streets we've had concerns about that too. Where we then have cars going on to the residential streets that are abouting the commercial. So I think we need to be careful with that. And I also agree as we've heard from some of the callers that we still need to maintain the ability for people to park. We still need to maintain the ability to have a delay for handicap access. You know, I'm a walker. I'd be walking, but not everybody does. You know, and I remember when David called, you know, speaking about masters, you know, some people when they go, some women, they want to wear their high heels, they don't want to walk all that. So I do think that we have to be able to provide for those issues as well as you know the drop-off and pick-up that's so needed. I do think that colleagues potentially can be used if the restaurants want to. I think that's a good idea to do that. I really thought it was a wonderful idea of what Charles Johnsonought up regarding a grading system for the restaurants. I think we should really look into that. I think, you know, as we said, we want to be a very healthy city. We want to be a safe city. I think if we can show this community and the world that we can have a thriving restaurant and retail and do it in a safe way and we can grade when some of these are going to a restaurant and they get an A for COVID safety. I guarantee you there'll be you know thriving and successful. So you know from my perspective I think this is a wonderful program. I think the program is working you know as said, the last thing that this was brought up, I don't believe that we are a dictatorship. I don't think that we tell people that we're going to close the streets that they don't want us to. And I think that this program is working by the fact that you have spoken to so many businesses and restaurants. And now I guess our here salons and nail salons that are looking to find a way to make it work as well. And they have a menu of options and they're choosing, so to me I think the program is working. I completely support it being done in administratively that you can, you know, my goal is to make this as smooth as possible for the restaurant and businesses that want it, that we do a quick turnaround, we do it safely for them, and not get bogged down in any sort of bureaucracy which you clearly have shown as possible, so thank you for that. I am so proud of our city for this program and completely supported to thank you. Thank you. So we only have 15 more minutes if we can get through it. Remember we need to answer the questions of covering the costs, the threshold, the staff, the city level, the cityaff level approval and further outreach. So was that no cost more than a dual ability in just a time try to be brief. When it comes to air solange, if they're going to use the public right away, we need to be mindful that we don't have air solange probably directly next to restaurants. You imagine people terrifying around and that sort of thing. So we need to think about the accountability of uses. And if that makes sense, I understand there may be some situations where because of that, it doesn't work. I understand and sympathize with the here-sulonged of no opportunity or option to sit and going outside, but if that stinks next door a restaurant, it may or may not work. And I think we need to be mindful of it. We also need to be mindful when we are. And going back to the notion of closing the entire street, I think that the community has spoken, I think it's clear that they're not interested necessarily in closing the entire street. And so we need to respect that and what we should do is we should do the park list. We should maybe take away ladies and that sort of thing to accommodate. But when we're doing that, but remember, for a standing standing, we need to be mindful of the death free to walk by and their ability to social distance. You don't want to put death free into the situation. Where they're going through, you know, a... They're going through a funnel or something, where they are forced to come and to clonestondack with other people. So we need to be also when it comes to the actual logistics and specifics. We need to be mindful of that. Ultimately, I think it's great, but the notion of having a COVID testing, a gray, that's only going to be as good an ass, the city is a whole you know one restaurant can get it in plus but if we are not doing a good job of enforcing in the city then that is not going to be good for any of our businesses and we also need to be mindful when we read today in the L.A. Times that had line younger L.A. family residents are increasingly passing COVID-19. That, you know, this is a demographic that goes for restaurants. And they're the ones who are catching and spreading the disease. And we need to be, again, in constant contact with the medical experts about what we can and shouldn't be doing. There should be a medical expert who looks and reviews these plans and says, this works, this doesn't work, this might not work. We should just guess on everything we actually have medical experts at the audiologist or whoever to actually go and look and examine that. But that being said, ask that if we are not going to be enforcing, and again, not just within restaurants but outside, if you have a long line of people waiting outside of a restaurant, you know, to get in or to get seen because there's limited seating, and they're refusing to wear their masks, and we are not able to deal with that, and whatever grades we have for the specific restaurant will not matter. We need to convince people that the city itself and the individual restaurants of course, but that the city itself is the same place it comes to. And that's how that's to enforce the rules. And you know, in Grav's team, we started enforcement over the weekend and that we cited a number of people, but we have serious issues with people who are refusing to even give their names to the police officers who are being obnoxious. And we need to figure out how to deal with that because otherwise they're going to ruin this for everybody. That's a me as a key. So I'm in favor of this, I'm in support of that. But going to the larger issue of not just rooting for everyone, this is a matter of with health and safety, and that's perhaps, it should be our number one concern. So, from there all else follows, and if we're able to, if we are able to ensure that people follow our rules, that our rules are vetted with medical experts, and that we are able to deal with people who feel that the rules are divided in an effective way. Then I think that we have a way for absolutely the fact is if there are restaurants who are not good sports, and who are not clean players. Then we also need to deal with them, even as that means setting them down. And again, the hope is that they will all adhere to the rules of Stoddjohn, since today, if they don't, it's not fair to everybody else. So I said, I'm in support of this, but I do want to stress that for any of these programs to be successful at all of these programs to be successful at all, we need to be doing a better job of overall enforcement of our rules within our city. And again, maybe we need to tweak those rules a bit. We have a council meeting coming up in the first week of August. Maybe we need to look then to see what else we can do. Because I said, if we're not doing a good job of that kind of enforcement, and unfortunately, the rest of the stuff doesn't really matter that much. But I'd like to take also a staffer for meeting with all the businesses and the restaurants and working things out and trying to find solutions that work on an analog basis for the individual restaurants and for their individual blocks. And I think that's how we have figured it out rather than imposing from above one size fits also with one size generally does not fit all. And so you've done a good job of actually working to try and get specific things. Thank you. And then we're going to write down one more. So, I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's a very important thing. I think that's appropriate, but we're journeying to the Odomon BH now. I was very heartened by the comments that I heard. The point in considering an expansion of Odom BH was never to create large crowds. It was never necessary to have to shut down streets completely. You know, really, rather than what it was about was to create an educational room so that we could accommodate after a capacity sampling and open B&Test then success, very successful. Laura and Adelina are the restaurant task force others. I've been great in bringing about the success we've had. I think we can add in what we're talking about today and we can help make it safer. We already do have restaurants that are using Adetors Space thanks to the great efforts of the people that I spoke about already. Here, how can we do that more safely? I think it's questionable whether the way that we're doing it now is really allowing for social distancing. We have tables on the sidewalk. That's a good thing. I'm a favor of that. But doing that is encouraged on sidewalk space. You walk in those sidewalks and the tables are taken away from space, the people waiting online to get into restaurants and taking some space. There are some pretty narrow corridors that the desk area is after being able to get through. To manage that. So the ones that make this increase for a public space, that parking lanes and traffic lanes do a greater extent, is that we would provide more space to allow the best outdoor capacity, this outdoor dining, more safe with. I think there was general agreement among the public commentators today about taking better advantage of our public space. A several said they did not want to see streets closed down totally, but that's fine. It was never necessary to close streets totally in order to make better use of our public space. You know also in addition to the immediate effects on the pandemic and creating capacity it has the benefit of providing an example of a more welcoming street environment and we have less traffic during the pandemic. It's a time that we can get away with reducing some lane to reducing some parking. You know, although at the same time traffic in some places is at control, and separately, I do think we need greater reinforcement than that. But it is a time in which we get people an opportunity to experience what I think is a more gracious way of flipping, and some of the common things that speak about I think the best thing about this is that we have been able to see the importance of what I think is a more gracious way of flipping and something that I'm going to speak about. We've been this increasing way into our fabric of life in Beverly Hills, going forward so for now and in the future. We already have already been able to see the friendly city. We can become even more so. And this is an opportunity for us to show some of the inventions of the day. I think there was a comment in the report that I'd given staff authority to help bring some of this about. I think we already did give that authority to Georgia that we're meeting. I think prior to the last meeting, we spoke about not being a barrier to letting some of these things happen, and so that we, I believe, already did give Georgia authority to be able to offer a variety of these projects that haven't been backed up. But to wrap it up, I'm very encouraged by what I'm hearing. And I'm hopeful and excited that we'll be moving forward. Oh, as to the specific questions. You need a critical mass for success. So on the table are free potential, free to which we can have a disarray of public space perhaps parking, oil, land, perhaps traffic lanes. I think we do have to ensure that there will be sufficient businesses, and I think there will be, but I think we do have to ensure that there will be a critical mask support for this so that we don't want to do this and have it be a value. We want to do this so that we have examples of success and a variety of parties taking advantage of it. Let's see. Okay. Thank you. And I also am very pleased with the old B.A. program and its rollout and our staffs work getting this done as a traditional expeditiously and it happened for our business as a team. To me, as a business trainee, we can move on immediately and I really, really appreciate that. What I really remember though, that you know, but his research of a COVID virus, he really should be staying home. There, he was a first and most of the lower restaurant and he could go there to the restaurant for their reservation and he really thought they should be wandering streets. You know, I love walking through our probable area, non-coated time. I think it's really, really a great, easy-do-just, great feeling to walk all the way around. But we are in a pandemic area and we've really been just scrolling through the streets. We should go in, go to the stops, go to the restaurants and we really should not be just hanging around. I had the opportunity to sneak in to stop at one of the checkpoints again and just observe what was going on. And I did see what our staff who stood in Marlowe's job and who was really out there in force, continuing the education program. No people, some people honestly thought what to think, not a mess around and more written, not necessarily really realized, and no one can't be around you yet, it's gotta be on your face covering your nose and your mouth. And for the most part, people were to cheer and put it on immediately. Their word was it, we can't split it, we can't tell them what to do and try to do. And those are the people that I think we need to become more restless with. I don't think the people who are not a mindful of it for the moment are the ones that we need to solve. But I also thought that the restaurants were close to where serving those who were waiting dreams from the side while they were waiting for you. And that's discomfort because now you know, people see down at the tables without the mask on. People for the crew who are breaking down, don't have their mask on, those are breaking. And then you know that we pointed out people who are walking by on the sidewalk are confronted with a non-sulturally distant space. So I think that we need to work more with the rest of us because there are four multiplier in terms of enforcement. I think that the rest of us have an obligation also. Number one, not the first people who are waiting for their table because it's hurt from the way. And number two, if a person is not compliant when they're in line with waiting or just getting you around, then I think as our job's instead, maybe the rest of our course would say, maybe the rest of the restaurant that you want to be at. So, I think the restaurants, the basements, it's an all-in-helpful queue list. I've seen it on some of the streets that there are markets where people queue up while they're waiting to go into the store. But then we see that there are rules that are not really observing what the city is putting out, or the retailers put out, which are the science that they need to be socially gistened. So I think also the restaurant for us, and it's on the businesses that are forcing that, will be helpful. We have, we've talked about the full closure that does not seem to be for four of them. And I certainly really think that it could potentially create a situation where there were work routes or not socially distancing. And that would be an important issue, awesome. In terms of covering the coffee, it is reasonable for us to cover the coffee with the linear and the signs, the V up to the 2000 dollars. I do have a liability issue in terms of going on to the street if we were. We have a very robust sidewalk, so where were we checked for defects in the sidewalk. We don't have that necessarily in streets and it could create a liability problem. And I'm not sure if the restaurants are prepared to and get us out of this aside, if we were required, if we were to do that full closure, but this is a microchip for that anyway. City staff's level of proof what I think is appropriate if there is a question I can see that would bring it to you either the liaison or to the council but it doesn't seem like any of these risks are risen to that level but I would encourage that if there was a question that would be brought to the liaison if necessary. And, uh, God, I see serials that work to the fact that a salon near a restaurant, uh, this is not co-existing in areas. It's something easy to work out so that they are not necessary on another in the open here. So those are my comments. It's a safe task as a direction. And it's a vision on it. And it looks like we're at 5 to 3. And in terms of continuing the other two matters, I've got an email and I, in fact, are not available for a week in the evening. I've got a commitment. My wife is out of town, so I think we'll just have to continue those through a another day. So what is that? We're here. We will all do what? Let's do, we're here. We'll continue that for the next meeting though. So we will, it looks to get me the bonus of next meeting to not fall in the wall, but on the next meeting, to get people to close our list. You will adjourn to the closed session 40 items listed on the closed session agenda. Thank you, and we will be back at 6, I'm sorry 5.46.